Speaker 1: Can anybody get in a marriage for Coolio being Benny?
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 1: And free Karen read Nation because it was National Standout
Speaker 1: Day and guess what, well I was stuck out here
Speaker 1: in Colorado. These people then went out there and did
Speaker 1: the damn thing just like my co host, you know
Speaker 1: who I'm talking about, the b up to the d
Speaker 1: O double ga from LB Sia.
Speaker 2: Can I get la tres?
Speaker 3: How's it going?
Speaker 2: Everyone?
Speaker 3: Hope you're having a good Sunday?
Speaker 2: Hey, man, it done just got better because we got
Speaker 2: a pipe hitting him up in the backstage right there
Speaker 2: wearing is Charlestown Chiefs, Jersey. We hope we're gonna get
Speaker 2: a second French Canadian were waiting on Tom's cpu. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get it going with this brother right here until
Speaker 2: Tommy gets up in the house and then we'll get
Speaker 2: him up in here and it's gonna be all French
Speaker 2: Canadian up in this joint. We're gonna see what this
Speaker 2: brother got to say. Feel me, yeah, I think can
Speaker 2: you feel me? Be a?
Speaker 3: I can feel you, boy, I can feel you.
Speaker 2: All right. So then, without further ado, using some sort
Speaker 2: of a faux French.
Speaker 4: Accent party, people welcome back to the cab, get that
Speaker 4: cheeto dust and that buffalo wing sauce off your damn
Speaker 4: fingers and put your hands together.
Speaker 2: Yeah there for brother John?
Speaker 5: Come on?
Speaker 6: Where did let me hear them?
Speaker 2: Applause? Baby? Is he mute? He's muted? Where are you come?
Speaker 2: Where are you trying to.
Speaker 5: Do with it? But I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna
Speaker 5: do that. What's going on? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness? Uh oh? So somebody's saying, is this
Speaker 2: streaming on Tom's channel? It is not. I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. I don't know where.
Speaker 2: Hold on one second, bro man, somebody's saying about Shelby
Speaker 2: streaming on Tom's channel. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Tom was supposed to be here. I don't know where
Speaker 2: his brother at. But guess what. Ken Hathaway is here
Speaker 2: from Nottingham, England, the Crown, which is part of the
Speaker 2: Canadian coming with So anyway, working on getting him up?
Speaker 2: All right, home, girl, where that brother at? Is he sleeping?
Speaker 2: He going to stand out light? All right? Get him up?
Speaker 2: Shall we go over there and roll this dude out
Speaker 2: of bed and get him on screen? Girlfriend? All right?
Speaker 2: John come o, you are a friend's Canadian brother.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean born here, but yeah, my ancestry
Speaker 5: is my cousin's grandpa. Every everybody on my father's side
Speaker 5: of the family is from Nova Scotia. Yea.
Speaker 2: And they do that kind of accent you know whatever.
Speaker 5: May way what the meaning why? I guess?
Speaker 2: All right, man, we want to hear some accent here
Speaker 2: before we got to get we got, you know, being
Speaker 2: a break out her Cuban Spanish up in this joint.
Speaker 6: Boy, So.
Speaker 2: She sounds really cool speaking Spanish. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: if you haven't heard her speak Spanish, it's pretty dope.
Speaker 2: All right. Uh what's that I said? See time play
Speaker 2: no games?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: So Paula is in the house. That is John's girl,
Speaker 2: Detective Mullins. So welcome in, detective and and yeah, let's
Speaker 2: let's let's do this damn thing. John Man, what do
Speaker 2: you know? Like you must be like the one of
Speaker 2: the worst nightmares for the Mcalberts, because like you know,
Speaker 2: all this shiit a d eight.
Speaker 5: I should say it's a hyper focus of the age, EHD.
Speaker 5: I mean things, undred percent out on things. And what
Speaker 5: happens is when you're one hundred percent in on things,
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you catch something and it's
Speaker 5: just your brain just it's like, oh my god, I
Speaker 5: got to go back to that. So I at some point,
Speaker 5: I think in the past year or two, well past years,
Speaker 5: I think I've recorded screen recorded about nine of the tribe. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I recorded, I edited, I deleted
Speaker 5: because because at the end of the day, it's one
Speaker 5: thing if one person misremembers, it's another when multiple people
Speaker 5: are uh saying the same thing. But the footage from
Speaker 5: the dash cams, ring footage, you know, it does it
Speaker 5: doesn't jive. So so I I, you know, it's to me,
Speaker 5: it's like it's it's not a game to me. But
Speaker 5: it's like, hey, you know, I want to show that
Speaker 5: this didn't you know, this isn't what they say it.
Speaker 2: Is and and and so I think I asked you
Speaker 2: this on the phone one time. I asked you if
Speaker 2: you're as triggered by like Jen McCabe's testimony as I am,
Speaker 2: where I told you like I I almost like want
Speaker 2: to block my ears when I see her her face
Speaker 2: and hear her lie and.
Speaker 5: No, because that's I mean, hey, you put yourself put
Speaker 5: yourself in other people's shoes. You know, you gotta say
Speaker 5: what you got to say, you know, I mean, you're
Speaker 5: in it to the end, no matter who it is.
Speaker 5: There's some people that it's you know, whether it's Lucky
Speaker 5: or the library, the it guy from Canton or you know,
Speaker 5: they just you get up. I mean they the testimony
Speaker 5: is is like a tiny piece of this whole thing.
Speaker 5: So they have nothing to lose. You have. And I
Speaker 5: don't know, I have tons of questions on why would
Speaker 5: Lally go through all of like this, like things that
Speaker 5: didn't matter if it was a simple hit and run?
Speaker 5: Why did he go back to seven o'clock at night
Speaker 5: if it wasn't a hit and run? Why did he
Speaker 5: go you know, we don't need to know that Alli
Speaker 5: picked up a dog on Elm Street brought it to
Speaker 5: the police station, only for the owner to call the
Speaker 5: police station and say bring it can you bring it back?
Speaker 5: And then like we didn't, we didn't need all that
Speaker 5: if it was a simple hit and run, you know.
Speaker 5: So it just seemed weird the way Lally would ask
Speaker 5: certain questions, someone would give the answer, he'd ask the
Speaker 5: same question to other people. And that's that's what started.
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody knows when when this all first happened,
Speaker 5: before the trial, when all the news came out and
Speaker 5: tron a boy came on the scene. Yeah, I was
Speaker 5: making memes. I was the clown, you know, I just
Speaker 5: I was trying to find the humor and all this.
Speaker 5: But then there's you know, obviously there's people that are
Speaker 5: hurt by it. So I kind of moved off from
Speaker 5: the memes. Then it was I was helping, you know,
Speaker 5: helping Kelly out with the popcorn fundraises and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: and I was making music videos and songs, and then
Speaker 5: you know, not of that moved on to I really
Speaker 5: liked finding all of the inconsistencies. And that's why the
Speaker 5: last couple of things I put out there was inconsistency,
Speaker 5: because you can't call it lies. It's not lies, it's inconsistencies. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But are there lies though, or have you found straight
Speaker 2: up lies?
Speaker 5: Well, it's hard to improve without, you know.
Speaker 2: Right, you know that you mentioned it. Olivia seems to
Speaker 2: find where they say one thing in one report and
Speaker 2: then or to one officer, and then maybe in a
Speaker 2: grand jury hearing or another testimony, they give an alternate story,
Speaker 2: so that.
Speaker 5: Going by most of my stuff is only from the trial,
Speaker 5: like what they said versus what was posted on the
Speaker 5: screen at the trial. I didn't go back to grand
Speaker 5: jury things and stuff like that, because if you do that,
Speaker 5: then I mean the number of inconsistencies is through the room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's startling, right, it's striking.
Speaker 5: Look like a small one. For example, Julie says she
Speaker 5: got out of her car to go bring donuts to
Speaker 5: put him into Brian Junior's car. That's not a lie
Speaker 5: if that's what she was going to do. The inconsistency
Speaker 5: is is his car wasn't there at seven am. So
Speaker 5: that means if she's telling him the truth, that car
Speaker 5: came after the Canton police left the scene at eight
Speaker 5: and who brought it that that's the question who was
Speaker 5: driving it? Because Brian Junior was in the house, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean? Uh, you know where was it where?
Speaker 5: You know, where was it leading up to you know
Speaker 5: before you know, in the middle of who took get
Speaker 5: from the night before.
Speaker 2: Those are the inconsistencies, right, and there's like a country
Speaker 2: you know, dump truck full of them. So I know,
Speaker 2: because that's Olivia that it seems like a lot of
Speaker 2: what Olivia does is she just looks at at things
Speaker 2: they allege essentially, and then she goes and shows how
Speaker 2: that's not consistent real quickly before we continue, I would
Speaker 2: like to and you know what, where's that They shouldn't
Speaker 2: have had the donuts because it's way too much processed sugar.
Speaker 2: But let me uh, let me, let me say hi
Speaker 2: to a bunch of people in the chat and then
Speaker 2: we're gonna get Bia in there to ask you some stuff.
Speaker 2: So let me see. I want to say, see who
Speaker 2: we got here. So we have Paula, we have Ace
Speaker 2: of Stace in here. She apparently we met Stace. She's
Speaker 2: got to remind me through photographic which because I met
Speaker 2: a lot of people and I would remember who everybody
Speaker 2: is so that I can associate name face and then
Speaker 2: next time when we do another one of these, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be able to greet them and know who they are.
Speaker 2: All right, Amy's here, Hi, Amy, Amy did come against
Speaker 2: She's kind of like, you know, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I want to do this. It's a little bit crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm a little out of my comfort zone. And Amy
Speaker 2: came and thank you very much. We've had some really
Speaker 2: good correspondence since then, Amy, You've done a hell of
Speaker 2: a job to go from the situation that you are
Speaker 2: into this sort of highly qualified person that you are now.
Speaker 2: So congratulations homegirl. Shrry Dizzele's here, Hi, Sherry Dizzele, How
Speaker 2: are you? I haven't talked to you.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: I guess it was a couple of days ago. We
Speaker 2: talked in preceding the other show we did the other night,
Speaker 2: So I hope you're well. My dear h Lynn Austrom.
Speaker 2: I think maybe you are from Norway or Sweden? Is
Speaker 2: that true?
Speaker 8: Lynn?
Speaker 2: And she's probably be a No. I'm from friggin' Teoksbury.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with uh? Do you like my accent?
Speaker 6: John?
Speaker 2: Do I get any Please hold your hold your applause
Speaker 2: to the end. Kelly Stephanie's here, Hi. We had to
Speaker 2: cancel the standout due to thunderstems. You know what, stay
Speaker 2: out of that lightning man. You did the right thing.
Speaker 2: Debbie Blair is here from the Debbie Blair Which project?
Speaker 2: How are you? Uh? Let's see? And Christina Rossmussen, who
Speaker 2: held a standout today in Indiana with another girl like
Speaker 2: we don't knew she was.
Speaker 5: Thin to do and she got and she got some
Speaker 5: flak on Twitter for that.
Speaker 2: Uh maybe she did, and that's okay, they'll get over it.
Speaker 2: Just don't pay any mind to him. Shelby is here
Speaker 2: one of Tom's mods. The only thing we're missing now
Speaker 2: is Tom. Please go over to his bed, wake him
Speaker 2: up like kind of like do like the movies where
Speaker 2: you roll him out of the bed and he falls
Speaker 2: on the floor and then wakes up, so uh, and
Speaker 2: then give him like a quick cup of coffee. Hopefully
Speaker 2: he's got like a cure egg where you can make
Speaker 2: him a little quick cappuccino and then get him on air.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Uh who else?
Speaker 5: Who else?
Speaker 2: Do we hear? The legend is here obviously and that
Speaker 2: hell yeah, and Christine, and you did not know? Did
Speaker 2: you know Dennis prior to the Karen Reid case? John?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry. I was still looking at Dennis Sweeney's name.
Speaker 5: What was the question?
Speaker 2: No, make yourself at home? Did you know Dennis prior
Speaker 2: to the Karen Reid stuff?
Speaker 5: I didn't know Dennis, but I knew Neil Kellerher's son
Speaker 5: was friends with my stepdaughter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, who's Neil kel Is that?
Speaker 5: Neil Keller is another one of the ones. Uh standouts, yes,
Speaker 5: o yeah in the parade with me. Uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, Now it's coming together. I think I met him.
Speaker 2: And Lynn Ostrom from Norway says, hey, John, and this
Speaker 2: one right here, you know how to do it? Go ahead, Beatrice, Deborah.
Speaker 5: Homes up homes.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds like why did I sign up for this?
Speaker 2: I really didn't need this, you know, like my life
Speaker 2: was going really well.
Speaker 5: What oh sorry, I'm multitasking. Yeah, I got my dinner
Speaker 5: is going to be coming down. I'm at my studio.
Speaker 5: I'm at my basement studio right now. So nice dinners
Speaker 5: being brought down to me.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, God bless hopefully you're tipping the staff
Speaker 2: very well. Brian Junior's frozen donuts. They're so full of
Speaker 2: shit you can see it coming right out of their ears,
Speaker 2: no question about it. Who else, Miss Jessica and Beezy
Speaker 2: has made it in after a night of after a
Speaker 2: night of K nine training, So hello Miss Jessica and Beezy,
Speaker 2: let's see. And also, you know who this is. Lian
Speaker 2: got to say hi to her because she is my
Speaker 2: dean homegirl from the class of what two thousand and one? Okay,
Speaker 2: I think we got everybody. Let me know if I
Speaker 2: missed anybody, because I'm way behind here. Sammy is here, Sammy,
Speaker 2: do you think all us mods with the guy? Do
Speaker 2: you think all of us mods like with the guy
Speaker 2: like sister Wives?
Speaker 3: No, no, may live with a guy like sister wives.
Speaker 3: Do you think all of us mods like No?
Speaker 2: I was trying to be funny, Sammy. No, I was
Speaker 2: actually just trying to be funny. You may have no
Speaker 2: access to Tom or his estate. Uh that you probably
Speaker 2: have that box at the end where you have to
Speaker 2: push the button and go, yeah, who are you here
Speaker 2: to see? I'm here to see Tom? Yeah, can you
Speaker 2: show your idea to the camera? So no, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think that you have access to him.
Speaker 2: And here's Matty Murphy. Miss just get busy. Hello, sweethets.
Speaker 2: I didn't know you were a mood over here. Of
Speaker 2: course she is Mary Murphy. She's been here for a
Speaker 2: while now. So yeah, I think we got all there
Speaker 2: and there? What's up CPU mod one? What's up?
Speaker 6: Holmes?
Speaker 2: Where my boy at? Tommy? Get that brother out of bed?
Speaker 2: Cost security, roll his ass out the damn bad All right,
Speaker 2: So I think we're good, but welcome, welcome to calling
Speaker 2: all beings, Homie. I know you've been here before, so
Speaker 2: all right, Uh now let me turn it over to
Speaker 2: be of the Deal double Ga so she can ask
Speaker 2: a question to our guest John.
Speaker 5: Well, wait one quick question answer to one of the questions.
Speaker 5: It was in the chat GM, I would I'd love to.
Speaker 5: George had an idea for something the other day we
Speaker 5: just brothers and Cause is kind of I'll tell you
Speaker 5: that the worst thing that it's happened to Brothers and
Speaker 5: Cause has been the Karen retrial. Otherwise the tour of
Speaker 5: us would still have been making the Christmas videos and
Speaker 5: all the other things around town. So for right now,
Speaker 5: I don't think it's coming back. But thanks GM, what
Speaker 5: that is?
Speaker 2: This trial ain't gonna be forever. But I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what I think. After she hands up with the hung
Speaker 2: Jerry again, they're gonna I wouldn't be surprised if these
Speaker 2: jackasses try her again. I don't think so, you don't
Speaker 2: think so. I'll see you get too. I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I want to be wrong. I want to be wrong.
Speaker 2: There we go. So not only did I get some respect,
Speaker 2: but also the double BA standing stones all right, So
Speaker 2: go ahead and bia with your question for Jean.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: So, speaking about the trial, what do you think is
Speaker 3: going to happen? Do you think it's going to be
Speaker 3: an acquiddo the next one?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Let's just say there's gonna be one ooh.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm hoping for
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna be Sorry, I'm going with
Speaker 5: it's not. It's not going to happen at the second one.
Speaker 3: Oh, Like it's not even going to begin on Abra
Speaker 3: Fool's Day.
Speaker 5: Like, it's not happen between now and then.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's a prediction.
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that prediction. Yeah, because that one I have.
Speaker 5: I have no inside sources, so I used to not anymore.
Speaker 2: You guys say it like Sean, I've got sauces.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the rocks a little while for a little while,
Speaker 5: But I'm not in that. That's not what I do.
Speaker 5: I like just researching.
Speaker 2: What is your like, you knew all these players before,
Speaker 2: by the way, Jen Roots in the house everything for
Speaker 2: Jen Roots. You knew all of these players going back
Speaker 2: to going back to high school and so forth. I
Speaker 2: say all of them. Is there any of the some
Speaker 2: of them, Yeah, some of them.
Speaker 5: I mean Lucky Chris Uh, A number of the police
Speaker 5: department people Blank graduated with him. Yeah, there's a number
Speaker 5: of a lot of the names. I mean, you can't
Speaker 5: once again, you've been there. Now. Can is not a
Speaker 5: huge town, and so.
Speaker 6: People know people.
Speaker 2: You know what say, Can's not a huge tent. People
Speaker 2: know people. What is going to ask you? Is the
Speaker 2: purpose of that set up?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 2: That failed set up that I just had. Oh wait
Speaker 2: a minute, if Tommy's awake, that means we could oh
Speaker 2: my god, oh wait, can I do from Young Frankenstein?
Speaker 2: Did you guys see Young Frankenstein with Gene Wilder. He's alive.
Speaker 6: It is alive.
Speaker 8: It doctor Frankensen.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I can't believe I'm friends with this guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know how this happened. I don't know what
Speaker 2: happened to either be a.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is probably one of the worst decisions you've made.
Speaker 2: I just tune you out. It's easy. Oh so there
Speaker 2: you can see John there, she's got a coping mechanism
Speaker 2: exact so.
Speaker 5: A text, but you can read it off the top
Speaker 5: of your screen rather than opening it so people know.
Speaker 5: That's what it's like being friends with DJ. You read it,
Speaker 5: but you don't want to open it right.
Speaker 2: Away John's I think John's also reading his friendship with me.
Speaker 2: Most people do. It puts you in good company, It
Speaker 2: really does that.
Speaker 5: I was I snuck on to Sean's earlier today, and
Speaker 5: you know, I mean for the record. I mean, people
Speaker 5: all were taken. He wants the attention now. I like
Speaker 5: being goofy and some of this just came with with
Speaker 5: with with package. I guess I'm the total package.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love you just the way you are. John,
Speaker 3: never changed.
Speaker 2: Don't go changing to try and please Brian Alburn. Don't
Speaker 2: change the color of your fu manchu.
Speaker 5: Ooh shape.
Speaker 2: That is the last time I'll ever sing Billy Joel
Speaker 2: on the show. I assure you, Shelby, I will never
Speaker 2: sing Billy Joel in the show again. Okay, so that
Speaker 2: was an attempt. I mean, it's not like my voice
Speaker 2: is not warmed up. You know, I haven't gone through
Speaker 2: the keys.
Speaker 6: You know, come on, how many.
Speaker 5: Minutes into the show are we He's been talking for
Speaker 5: like ten minutes. Yeah, you know, stupid live for twenty
Speaker 5: two minutes. I'll tell me your voicesn't warmed up.
Speaker 2: I'm not in key, you know, La la la la
Speaker 2: la la. You know, like I need to warm up.
Speaker 2: It's the deep never. By the way, I don't know
Speaker 2: if Standing Stones is from Dean. I am going to
Speaker 2: be making my own not at the behest of the college,
Speaker 2: a Dean commercial with former teammates of mine, to talk
Speaker 2: about how what type of a formative experience we had
Speaker 2: at Dean and how it led us up to today.
Speaker 2: So I've got a couple of takers from Dean Sagan.
Speaker 5: It's going to be a commercial.
Speaker 2: I hate to say the word commercial. I'm going to
Speaker 2: do my own twitter at advertisement for Dean. How's that Okay?
Speaker 5: I was gonna say commercial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's poor choice of words. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: on YouTube and not on TV. That's why Ba is
Speaker 2: on TV and not me. So okay. It's getting ready
Speaker 2: to apply for her sad card. Get who.
Speaker 5: Make you sure? Oh yes, I gotta I gotta get
Speaker 5: a microphone like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, funny people put down hands together for the other
Speaker 1: Prince Canadian.
Speaker 6: My man, I've got a little bit better looking, a
Speaker 6: little bit more hair than I got. Tom Cpu, youre
Speaker 6: not getting man, how is everyone tonight? Good?
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 6: Damit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's honoring you, DJ. He's in DJ Attick type attire.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: Bailing it is that cosmic.
Speaker 6: It's getting there.
Speaker 2: That is dope. Man two French Canadian Massachusetts, Brono in here.
Speaker 2: All right, be a take it away man before I
Speaker 2: drive this thing into the ground. What you got what?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Well the thing I want to get from John after
Speaker 2: that ten minute of that ten minute prelude to the
Speaker 2: actual question itself, are there any of these people that
Speaker 2: are that are on the meek Albert side that you
Speaker 2: actually liked at one point or felt comfortable with this
Speaker 2: as a friend.
Speaker 5: I don't hate anyone, but uh, for the record, Petris,
Speaker 5: do you Pechris? Do you have the time? Do you
Speaker 5: know what time it is right now? Yeahactly seven twenty six?
Speaker 5: Hey Tom, the show started at seven?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know. I got the memo a little late
Speaker 6: than that one.
Speaker 5: Memo you come for the three Dames. No, I I
Speaker 5: don't hate anyone. I didn't dislike anyone. I I I
Speaker 5: got along with everybody. I just I know, because I
Speaker 5: mean I had antics before the Karenary thing. I mean
Speaker 5: with can't confidential and different things that have gone on
Speaker 5: in the town. My brother and I would know, I
Speaker 5: mean little things that happened. So I know I'm not
Speaker 5: everybody's favorite person because I'm a you know, I'm a
Speaker 5: wise guy. But yeah, no, I mean I get along
Speaker 5: with it. I got along.
Speaker 2: So that's really interesting. And it wasn't that wasn't like
Speaker 2: some sort of a cue, Hey say something bad about
Speaker 2: the mcalberts. The point of it was to see if
Speaker 2: there's anyone that you did have a relationship, someone for
Speaker 2: whom you you held in regard until this happened, or
Speaker 2: was this something where you kind of saw that that
Speaker 2: there was issues quite a while ago.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess you've we've always heard story. I'm
Speaker 5: not saying it's corruption with the police bombit and I'm
Speaker 5: not just saying it's can't police because I've got friends
Speaker 5: that are on other towns and on the state and
Speaker 5: uh in department corrections. People get away with things. People,
Speaker 5: I mean, it happens, I mean lower level things, you
Speaker 5: know what happens, but it adds up, you know, and
Speaker 5: it's a lot of Hey, I cover for you, you
Speaker 5: cover for me, You owe me one, you know, and
Speaker 5: it just and that's and that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: Tommy, you you were and you know what. First, let
Speaker 2: me just say thank you so much. Please pass the pepa.
Speaker 2: I got to communicate with you a bit today. Thank
Speaker 2: you for being so generous. Love in many yads. Tommy,
Speaker 2: you were a police officer. You know, I say some
Speaker 2: of the the audience knows that. Some of the audience
Speaker 2: maybe doesn't know that. But I have the pleasure of
Speaker 2: having one of our first conversations on the phone that
Speaker 2: you shared.
Speaker 5: That with me.
Speaker 2: Is there something that you saw in your prior career
Speaker 2: that you see as analogous here in Canton or or
Speaker 2: in the MSPs, or something that you saw, ok yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I recognize that.
Speaker 6: I see that.
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 6: So, you know, it's funny going back looking backwards. All
Speaker 6: the people that I went to the academy with, I
Speaker 6: saw them on on TV like a bad cop, like
Speaker 6: John says, sometimes they get away with things until they
Speaker 6: get caught right and then it's like, oh and they
Speaker 6: get fired as they should. I saw some of that happen,
Speaker 6: and like I left the one time ago and then
Speaker 6: and as I was doing my thing, I watch up,
Speaker 6: and I know that guy up. No, this guy I know.
Speaker 6: So I continue to saw all the people that I
Speaker 6: went to the school with getting in trouble. So I
Speaker 6: started thinking it was it was the way we were taught, right,
Speaker 6: But what they taught us in the academy, it wasn't.
Speaker 6: It comes to them down to be people just getting
Speaker 6: away with it, getting away with it until they get caught,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 9: And and.
Speaker 6: We had no reason to think that anything in Canton
Speaker 6: was bad. We thought that they were like one of
Speaker 6: the premier police officers, like the police, they were the great.
Speaker 6: They get paid so much money because they're that good. Right, Wow,
Speaker 6: that's what we think. And until you know, you know,
Speaker 6: until you don't know, you don't know. So we're unfortunate.
Speaker 6: We're in a position now where you know it. You
Speaker 6: start questioning, now, how many conflicts of interest out there
Speaker 6: in this case? You could draw a line with just
Speaker 6: one jump and you'll get to somebody that's involved in
Speaker 6: the case. And usually they tell you when there's a
Speaker 6: conflict of interest, you step away from it and you
Speaker 6: remove yourself. I don't see how they could have removed
Speaker 6: themselves if they're out at the scene with a leaf blower.
Speaker 6: Nowhere in any manual have I ever seen leaf blower ever?
Speaker 6: So like they take it upon themselves and they get caught,
Speaker 6: you'll do a little bit, a little bit, a little
Speaker 6: bit until they get caught. And who uses the snowblow
Speaker 6: in a crime scene?
Speaker 2: Are you saying that's not in the FBI's Field Manual
Speaker 2: of crime Scene Investigation? The backpack blower? Are you saying
Speaker 2: that it's not in there?
Speaker 5: FBI?
Speaker 6: And again shocking, Sure, you don't usually have the FBI
Speaker 6: involved in in things like this, right, I know, I trying,
Speaker 6: but they're not even spoken about. Right, we're talking FBI
Speaker 6: like your mind. But here we are. Right, we know
Speaker 6: that the FBI is involved because they arrested Farewell. Right,
Speaker 6: we know Sander Birchmore is what triggered this whole thing
Speaker 6: with John of looking into the Read case. We know
Speaker 6: the Birchmore and the Read cases are connected. We know
Speaker 6: that by by the FBI. So people that do things
Speaker 6: the right way, they don't get caught because it's the
Speaker 6: right way, and FBI didn't get involved.
Speaker 2: And here we are, well the three thousand pages of
Speaker 2: information also is was our one? You know, sort of
Speaker 2: on ramp to Okay, there's a three letter agency that's
Speaker 2: involved with that information. And plus the uh uh the
Speaker 2: addition of uh doctor Renschler, and and I'm trying to
Speaker 2: remember the other the other doctors. Can anyone help me
Speaker 2: with the other?
Speaker 6: The two? The two what doctors I've seen in this
Speaker 6: case that are just so qualified saying that they all
Speaker 6: say the same thing. But I don't see the prosecution
Speaker 6: shown me anything remotely close of what I see the
Speaker 6: defense showing me. I mean, I'm looking for it and
Speaker 6: I don't see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to I want to highlight something that
Speaker 2: Gene rock uh Dion Jeanjean Dion said, maybe it's a friend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there we go. I got a Canadian Homi. Never the formation,
Speaker 2: always the individual. Same in the Army, I would agree
Speaker 2: with you to this point, Jean Jean Roque, except for
Speaker 2: that the army is huge, and we have our share
Speaker 2: in the Army, the Air Force, Navy, the Marine Corps,
Speaker 2: you know, all the services. Uh, we have our share
Speaker 2: of dirt bags like what you would see in Canton,
Speaker 2: p D or MSP. But the difference is these formations
Speaker 2: are microscopic in comparison to the size. So what I
Speaker 2: hear when I talk to former officers like cpu, like
Speaker 2: Peter Murphy's, they tell me there's it's a cultural thing
Speaker 2: that that tells them it's okay to do this. And
Speaker 2: and I'll direct your attention and I'm like to get
Speaker 2: go around the horn here from Beatrice to John and
Speaker 2: then Tommy is the officer that was arrested recently by
Speaker 2: stealing from a couple of different target stores. That was
Speaker 2: an MSP trooper. So give me give me your thoughts
Speaker 2: on that. Uh was it a culture that that led
Speaker 2: that officer to think that that was okay? Or do
Speaker 2: you think that was his individual upbringing? So just give
Speaker 2: me your thoughts. Let's go around the horn with that place, Okay.
Speaker 3: So I would say it's more that they think they
Speaker 3: can get away with it. They feel that they're above
Speaker 3: the law, and they tested the waters gotten away with
Speaker 3: it with little things, and they build up that you'd
Speaker 3: actually have the guts to, you know, do something like that.
Speaker 3: And by the way, DJ was, doctor Wolfe was the.
Speaker 2: Other one, doctor Wolff, God bless you.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 2: Let's up your salary.
Speaker 3: No, No, I can't take credit somebody in the chat. No,
Speaker 3: something that Amy's positive pathways. I don't I want to
Speaker 3: give credit where credit is due.
Speaker 2: You're citing your amy now, that's good. We don't have
Speaker 2: to give her be a raise now, So thank you
Speaker 2: for that. Good John.
Speaker 5: You get away with something once, chances how you're going
Speaker 5: to do it again. But when you do it again,
Speaker 5: it's going to be even larger. Give you a case
Speaker 5: in point. It's not a police thing.
Speaker 10: It's I worked at Coca Cola and it was a
Speaker 10: large number of drivers that got fired. And what they
Speaker 10: were doing is is they would get the bag of
Speaker 10: empties from the sub shop right and give you know,
Speaker 10: they bring them to the truck, give the sub shop,
Speaker 10: you know, the credit on their paperwork, and then once
Speaker 10: they got outside, they would change the paperwork.
Speaker 5: Right, yes, right, Well they they wouldn't take bags, and
Speaker 5: they were in cahoots with the kid. When you come
Speaker 5: back at the end of the day, you drive in
Speaker 5: and they would be a guy that checked off the
Speaker 5: truck everything because they they know what you left with
Speaker 5: in the morning and then they check it everything coming back,
Speaker 5: and so they were they would give the kid checking
Speaker 5: the truck a cut. Well, it wasn't until an audit
Speaker 5: came in did they catch this, and that day that
Speaker 5: there was drivers like running back outside of their trucks
Speaker 5: on their little handhelds to trying to reprint to make
Speaker 5: it go back there, and they got caught and you know,
Speaker 5: you'll lose your job for that. What happened was is
Speaker 5: this was going over the course of months, maybe even years,
Speaker 5: that they got away with it. Oh they did it
Speaker 5: one time. Oh hey they were now I'll do two bags.
Speaker 5: They got greedy. They were doing hundreds of dollars a
Speaker 5: day in saying that they were bringing you know, empty
Speaker 5: bottles back bags of empty bottles back when there were
Speaker 5: no empty bottles on their truck because they got greedy.
Speaker 5: And so that's kind of what happened with anyone. And
Speaker 5: you do it once, Okay, do it again, do it again.
Speaker 5: That's probably what happened with that with that guy in Walmart.
Speaker 5: Did it once, got away with.
Speaker 6: It, gonna keep doing Tell me he's read on the money.
Speaker 6: And the thing is is, right, what about the guy
Speaker 6: that's working just as hot as the one guy who's
Speaker 6: you know, involved with that this That some other guy
Speaker 6: who's just driving the truck. Hey, I'm I'm leaving money
Speaker 6: on the table. No one's gonna do that. So now
Speaker 6: the guy and that's next to woman's partner, he's an
Speaker 6: honor too. It's just like that. And once you do it,
Speaker 6: once it's over, there's no going back. You can't go
Speaker 6: backwards off that line. Just you can't. And takes a
Speaker 6: strong person to look and say no, no, no, that
Speaker 6: ain't right and walk away from it.
Speaker 5: I tell people it's not when when you know. I
Speaker 5: deal with money at my work, and I tell people
Speaker 5: I'd rather make sure I have a check every Thursday
Speaker 5: then risk it on some insignificant amount of money one time.
Speaker 5: Whatever it is, right, I'd rather be able to sit
Speaker 5: there a week after week after week than than do
Speaker 5: it the other way.
Speaker 6: There's always there's not enough money. I keep John to
Speaker 6: take money that this for this week, but then that
Speaker 6: screws them off for the for the rest of the
Speaker 6: fifty two weeks. I think down the road, like is
Speaker 6: it worth it?
Speaker 5: Is there?
Speaker 6: Is that really that ten dollars extra worth it? Or
Speaker 6: the one hundred dollars? Is it worth that? It really isn't.
Speaker 6: In a lot, it's just not worth it. But okay.
Speaker 5: And people that spend more time and energy trying to
Speaker 5: scam the system, no matter what the system, whether it's work,
Speaker 5: whether it's government. Uh, you know, but they spend more
Speaker 5: energy trying to do that than just doing their job.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's like sergeant's steak tips from Canton. Sean
Speaker 2: McDonough shared this narrative. I'm sure everybody in Canton knows
Speaker 2: about this, about this jackass that is breaking into a
Speaker 2: it was a catering facility and stole stole steak tips.
Speaker 2: It was caught on camera. Eventually it got back to
Speaker 2: the police, and can you believe they didn't fire that officer.
Speaker 6: He kept doing it.
Speaker 2: He kept doing it.
Speaker 6: It wasn't once, oh it was, it was over eight
Speaker 6: several times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got caught eventually, right, and that's when the
Speaker 2: woman who owned the facility figured out, Hey, we're missing
Speaker 2: steak tips. Let me go back and check. But the point,
Speaker 2: I think, the point that I'm trying to bring up here,
Speaker 2: or actually the point that I want to get to
Speaker 2: here I didn't bring it up yet, is that what
Speaker 2: that guy did right there and and then not get fired.
Speaker 2: Who knows. We don't know what he did after that.
Speaker 2: What did he do after he got away with that?
Speaker 2: Probably something more egregious. And that's really egregious. That's a
Speaker 2: b and e. That's a lead. That could be a
Speaker 2: felony depending upon what the the amount of money that
Speaker 2: he stole, and they let him get away with it.
Speaker 2: That therein lies the problem. Uh. And where I'm going
Speaker 2: back to my friend Jean.
Speaker 5: Person was talking about I guess to live across the
Speaker 5: street from him.
Speaker 2: That I'll say, so tell us about that without naming
Speaker 2: that person because we don't want to name them.
Speaker 5: What two twin boys and uh, one day one of
Speaker 5: them was on his bike, the other one was on
Speaker 5: a skateboard holding the back end of the bike. And
Speaker 5: I'm just sitting outside of my house and he came
Speaker 5: bombing up in his cruise and he started yelling at them,
Speaker 5: you know, because they were in the street. And he's
Speaker 5: he's like, I told you not to do that, blah
Speaker 5: blah blah, and I yell. I jumped up. I yelled,
Speaker 5: I go, yeah, I go, you doing it all wrong.
Speaker 5: You need a rope. You should be to telling them
Speaker 5: on a rope. He turned it to me and he goes,
Speaker 5: I'm telling March, we don't give it a.
Speaker 2: Ya. And that that was the same guy that did
Speaker 2: this stole the steak tips?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't see.
Speaker 2: I don't even say how he could arrest anybody. Again,
Speaker 2: we had to take annual training, be signed off on
Speaker 2: waivers and favors. So many were fired over my career.
Speaker 2: So that tells us that Diane is a former police officer.
Speaker 2: So thank you Diane for weighing in on that.
Speaker 6: See, up in New England, DJ is different up here, right,
Speaker 6: you don't get fired, but you get promoted. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: get promoted because because the people above you are doing
Speaker 6: the same thing, so they have to promote you to
Speaker 6: make themselves look better and to keep them being able
Speaker 6: to do what they do do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's everyone has to get some dirt on him,
Speaker 2: so that, yeah, that's how they did it at the
Speaker 2: Dirty thirty in New York City and other precincts. There
Speaker 2: was a couple of different New York precincts that got
Speaker 2: in with the drugs and Beatrice. How do you feel
Speaker 2: about this? You think it would have been okay if
Speaker 2: it were crab legs instead?
Speaker 3: No, because certainly not no, no, But you're in the
Speaker 3: real world. We have what's called QA, and you know
Speaker 3: what about accountability? Who's double checking what they're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like out here in the real world, like I do
Speaker 3: a certain amount of work, I'm going to a percentage
Speaker 3: of that work gets qaight and they nitpick it to
Speaker 3: the very end, and I have to be held accountable
Speaker 3: for my actions. So where's the accountability here? Just curious?
Speaker 6: See there you go right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get like, you know, in the kind of
Speaker 2: work I do, you can only give your boss like
Speaker 2: up to like a ten dollars gift. But here, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, supposedly, you know, Sean reported that Brian Albert
Speaker 2: gott envelopes at Christmas and all kinds of stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just there's really just no rules. They just think
Speaker 2: that ethics and rules don't apply. And so it's really
Speaker 2: a cultural thing. And this is certainly not, like I said,
Speaker 2: we have the same I mean, we do have these
Speaker 2: kinds of people in my business. In the military. It's
Speaker 2: just that these organizations are so tiny compared to the
Speaker 2: breadth of any of the services. Even the smallest services
Speaker 2: like the Marine Corps of the Air Force or Space
Speaker 2: Force are considerably smaller than the Army and the Navy.
Speaker 2: But these these organizations are in the dozens of people
Speaker 2: or less, not the tens of thousands of people.
Speaker 5: So I won't say what section of Boston this happened in,
Speaker 5: but I early nineties I worked in Boston. A certain
Speaker 5: night of the week, we had an event. I'm trying
Speaker 5: to I'm trying to make it so that you know,
Speaker 5: I don't give it away. We had an event in
Speaker 5: which we had to have a Boston Police officer at
Speaker 5: for say four hours. The officer would come in and
Speaker 5: it was always the same couple, right, no matter what,
Speaker 5: it was always the same couple because this was a
Speaker 5: premiere you know, gig for them. And I asked one day,
Speaker 5: I said, I go, hey, how come it's always it?
Speaker 5: And that it's seniority was one of them, and then
Speaker 5: the other one was because he was the detail sigeant.
Speaker 5: He was the one that gave out the details. So
Speaker 5: he kept that one to himself. And I would always
Speaker 5: sign the paperwork right away, and it would start around
Speaker 5: eight o'clock, it would go to ten forty five, but
Speaker 5: around eight thirty nine o'clock he'd be like, all right,
Speaker 5: I gotta go check the parking lot. But that was
Speaker 5: the cue of see you laa yep, right, get my
Speaker 5: slip signed, and I'm like, happens all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it really is. There's a moral fiber that's
Speaker 2: missing a culture. And I think what Tom alluded to
Speaker 2: earlier is if you can get the people under you
Speaker 2: to sully themselves. I remember hearing like in The Dirty
Speaker 2: thirty where they busted a drug dealer up in his
Speaker 2: apartment and there was five hundred dollars, you know, somewhere
Speaker 2: around five hundred dollars in cash and he's trying to
Speaker 2: give it to the other officer because he knows if
Speaker 2: the other officer takes it. Well, now he's in on it, right,
Speaker 2: and the other officer's going should I, shouldn't I, you know,
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And then once he got
Speaker 2: them to take Okay, now I've got this guy roped in.
Speaker 2: Now I know he's not going to spill the beans
Speaker 2: on me. And it seems like what you guys are
Speaker 2: saying is that's kind of what they'll do, is they'll
Speaker 2: try to see what they can get. Go ahead, town DJ.
Speaker 6: It goes like this, it's all about power up here.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: I know a guy and this is the local police department.
Speaker 6: He was in the running to become chief. This guy
Speaker 6: was great. He was the one that would take the
Speaker 6: new guys in his cruiser with him.
Speaker 5: This is what we do.
Speaker 6: Don't do this, you don't do that. You don't touch
Speaker 6: the radio after two o'clock in the morning, you don't
Speaker 6: pull anyone all about just nothing happens after two. He
Speaker 6: in another officer who was politically connected, where the other
Speaker 6: one was. The politically connected guy was angry at this guy.
Speaker 6: So the politically connected guy got you know, corrupt, bad
Speaker 6: kept going up the ladder, and this guy's doing the
Speaker 6: right thing, going to school, taking the tests, getting better
Speaker 6: grades than this other guy. Come down to it, and
Speaker 6: the selectman voted, and they voted for the politically connected guy,
Speaker 6: not the guy that did better on the tests, not
Speaker 6: the guy that was the right guy for the town,
Speaker 6: but the guy that was politically connected. You know what
Speaker 6: he did. This is how this is how it operates.
Speaker 6: He went and found a stop that this cop did
Speaker 6: and turned like they did with aiden, turned it completely around,
Speaker 6: used it to go after the guy and demoted him
Speaker 6: from like lieutenant to patrolman over over a car over stop,
Speaker 6: like a cosstop. After that came if he went back
Speaker 6: and demoted him over something that happened before he was chief,
Speaker 6: just to get after this guy so that he could
Speaker 6: not knock him down and he would be not in
Speaker 6: a lot of a threat to him at all. That's
Speaker 6: that's the rules that they play by up here, right,
Speaker 6: And who wants to take that risk, right? That's like
Speaker 6: not stealing and getting punished, right, John, Like like not
Speaker 6: taking the money and getting punished for it.
Speaker 5: Buddy Matsey Police basically said to me, he goes. You
Speaker 5: never say anything. You keep your mouth shut because you
Speaker 5: never know who's going to be your next boss. Boom.
Speaker 5: That's why they him.
Speaker 2: It's very very illuminating you guys.
Speaker 5: You that becomes your next boss.
Speaker 2: Yep, very very illuminating. I just want to take a
Speaker 2: moment to thank Joseph Kane Joseph King, thanks.
Speaker 6: A lot, brother for following me around now he is
Speaker 6: everywhere awesome, man, he's great.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Joseph. That is very very kind of you
Speaker 2: and very generous of you, sir. Uh And who's not
Speaker 2: following around cpu man, I would have fallen around, just
Speaker 2: couldn't find him in the bar so um so and
Speaker 2: stalking Tommy. That's great. What's up gg? Welcome, welcome and
Speaker 2: Alpine Stars. So I asked this earlier in the chat.
Speaker 2: It's not what you know to you know, absolutely right,
Speaker 2: I would ask you, are you a motorcycle rider? Because
Speaker 2: Alpine Stars is obviously some of the top motorcycle gear.
Speaker 2: Please answer in the chat. Love, answer up in the chat.
Speaker 2: And see Tommy likes my accent. He's smiling right now.
Speaker 2: That means I didn't strike out on that one.
Speaker 5: All right, Let's get hey, we gotta get into we
Speaker 5: gotta get into the research of what.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Man, all right, so you want
Speaker 2: to go with this? Look at John Man, he's the
Speaker 2: program director. You want to just pick which one you
Speaker 2: want here? Do you want me to you can a
Speaker 2: shorter one one that.
Speaker 9: My tail light? Look at my tail light?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, hold on there, John, is that it right there?
Speaker 5: That's the long go ahead?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, everybody get ready for this face that
Speaker 2: I know it's difficult to look at and the words
Speaker 2: coming out of her mouth, but we shall endure together.
Speaker 9: Look clock and my tail light. Look at my tail light.
Speaker 5: You gotta start from the beginning, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I thought that was at the beginning. Shohnt
Speaker 2: topping in here?
Speaker 9: There we go, looklock and my tail light, Look at
Speaker 9: my tail light.
Speaker 5: Well you gotta drag you gotta drag your mouse all
Speaker 5: the way laugh.
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 8: I dragged it all the way to left.
Speaker 2: I can't go any further.
Speaker 5: Yeady can because it's working right with canning back her out,
Speaker 5: back up even more.
Speaker 6: You got another le like, is it the right clip?
Speaker 5: It's the right clip. He's just not right there.
Speaker 9: You go, look clock and my tail light, Look at
Speaker 9: my tail light.
Speaker 6: What's going on here? But let it run through. See
Speaker 6: if it goes.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all. I dragged it as far to
Speaker 2: the left as my mouse will go. Let me try
Speaker 2: the other one.
Speaker 5: Well, all right, well, just it is what it is.
Speaker 5: So you have two women who testified on the same day,
Speaker 5: so it's not like they had a chance to talk
Speaker 5: to each other. And it's one thing for one person
Speaker 5: to misremember something, but now you have two people misremembering.
Speaker 5: So Jen says that Kerry was yelling at Karen, saying,
Speaker 5: you hit something, You're crazy, you were drunk. Let's get
Speaker 5: in the house and go look for John. You had
Speaker 5: Kerry testify, you know, look, look you know, and she said,
Speaker 5: let's go in and look for John. So both Kerry
Speaker 5: and Jen said what happened outside and the driveway happened
Speaker 5: before they went in the house after all, Right, but
Speaker 5: when you see the ring footage, it obviously didn't happen
Speaker 5: the way both of them said it. So how is
Speaker 5: it two people misremember the same thing. That's the inconsistencies
Speaker 5: that I've been talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just gonna say, oh, I don't recall, I
Speaker 2: didn't recall. I must have misremembered. Is what they're going
Speaker 2: to say. Bea what do you got on that? Do
Speaker 2: you have anything on that?
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say. They were probably part of
Speaker 3: the friends and Family conversation slash meeting, so they might
Speaker 3: have not spoken on that day of that they testified,
Speaker 3: But they've had plenty of time to prepare.
Speaker 5: But they had that story all along, and they probably
Speaker 5: didn't They probably weren't brought up to speed with the
Speaker 5: ring footage. They probably had their story straight, but they
Speaker 5: didn't see the ring footage to make sure that the
Speaker 5: story that was straight that they were going to tell
Speaker 5: matched the ring footage.
Speaker 2: But they didn't. They didn't have the benefit of the
Speaker 2: ring footage. They didn't know that existed yet right to refute? Right, Okay, Tommy, Tommy,
Speaker 2: is there something like is there a particular inconsistency that
Speaker 2: that just strikes you? Because I have one that I'm
Speaker 2: gonna present to all three of you after this.
Speaker 6: But everything the Cape says is inconsistent, It can be
Speaker 6: can be thrown out. What what you're missing on that
Speaker 6: thing that John just showed you is when comes out
Speaker 6: of the passenger side of her car and she comes
Speaker 6: walking around and she has a black jacket ard. You
Speaker 6: can see the reflection of the red tail light in
Speaker 6: her black jacket as she makes turn. Exactly it lights
Speaker 6: up red. If it was white, you'd see it, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you couldn't miss it.
Speaker 2: You couldn't miss it.
Speaker 5: When I did the video that we were going to
Speaker 5: show someone in and I had posted it on Twitter,
Speaker 5: one of the comments was exactly that, right, they go look,
Speaker 5: So immediately I went back in, I zoomed in, I go,
Speaker 5: you mean miss and then that one well, and everyone saying, well,
Speaker 5: it's the led lights.
Speaker 6: Are red and you know it's a hull jacket deathing
Speaker 6: lights up. Man, you can see it.
Speaker 2: You can see it.
Speaker 6: I saw a traction, John, Right, you'd be able you'd
Speaker 6: see more white. There's no way. It's just inconsistencies. Yeah, everything.
Speaker 2: I can try to bring that up on Twitter. If
Speaker 2: you guys want to talk amongst yourselves, Yeah, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Sixty Normans is there.
Speaker 2: You can't talk amongst yourself.
Speaker 6: You can't go through the story without talking about inconsistencies.
Speaker 6: Everything is yep. It just doesn't make nothing, nothing like.
Speaker 5: I'll give you while he's while he's looking, I'll give you.
Speaker 5: I'll give you one. Chris Abbott leaves the waterfall at
Speaker 5: twelve fourteen, twelve thirteen and whatever second when he goes
Speaker 5: out the door, right, So twelve fourteen, he's out the door.
Speaker 5: Now we're going by his testimony, he says he walked home.
Speaker 5: So if he walked home, it's another seven eight minutes home. Right,
Speaker 5: where's that put you in the twelve twenties, you know?
Speaker 5: Fourteen two. Allie says she picked up Colin at twelve
Speaker 5: ten and took him directly home. It's a five minute
Speaker 5: ride home, right, Let's give him seven minutes twelve fifty Colin.
Speaker 5: By both of their testimonies, Colin would have been home
Speaker 5: before Chris, or they would have met at the door
Speaker 5: at the least, and that's according to their own testimonies.
Speaker 2: I can present this one and the footage from the.
Speaker 6: Bar right so right, but again inconsistency. They don't have
Speaker 6: any footage of Chris Robert walking home. There's not one video,
Speaker 6: show me one video.
Speaker 5: He passes the Canton co op, which has multiple cameras
Speaker 5: on that bank, exterior cameras, and we all you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know how many times you see footage of
Speaker 5: which they use the the ATM cameras that are always
Speaker 5: running as people walk by to catch things, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, this one is really quick. This is
Speaker 2: where Jen's voice is slowed down. But we can talk
Speaker 2: about Yep, that's that's the red right there.
Speaker 3: We're not seeing it, DJ, We're just seeing a way there.
Speaker 6: You go there, you go right there, see red?
Speaker 5: That is Yeah, like.
Speaker 6: The last frame of that is to called red. There's
Speaker 6: no way that. There's no way that's a broken tail light.
Speaker 2: And then here's the other one that John's alluding to here.
Speaker 6: Yep, not once? Does does that conversation take place doing
Speaker 6: that John referred to not once? I don't see it there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanna I want to ask you guys to
Speaker 2: punch holes in. I'm going to present a narrative to you,
Speaker 2: and I want all of you here to punch holes
Speaker 2: in this as best you can. Okay, this is a
Speaker 2: narrative from the trial. Here we go. One non interested,
Speaker 2: unbiased party that is a part, separate and apart from
Speaker 2: all of these other police officers, witnesses, et cetera. Is
Speaker 2: officer Borrows from Dighton. He said, I saw a tail
Speaker 2: light that had was cracked and had a piece fallen
Speaker 2: down inside. To me, now next to that, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: present the smash tail light to me. The trial's over.
Speaker 2: Tell me where I've missed, tell me where I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Had punch holes in that for me?
Speaker 6: Tom, I'm waiting now, I'll I got nothing.
Speaker 5: This is why I think this trial was all about
Speaker 5: getting everybody's testimony on record. I really That's why I say,
Speaker 5: I don't think the next it's coming. I think this
Speaker 5: was all to get everybody's testimony on record. Where they were,
Speaker 5: what they were doing. It has nothing to do with Karen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, punch holes in that.
Speaker 3: I don't think I can. I think it was a
Speaker 3: missed opportunity for the defense not to show Barrows a
Speaker 3: picture I think of did it look like this or
Speaker 3: did it look like this? So I feel like if
Speaker 3: the defense had shown him a picture of the one
Speaker 3: that's missing and you can see inside, I would have
Speaker 3: I think it would have been helpful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Melanie Little pointed out, and that's what is so
Speaker 2: valuable about these lawyers is that they they and and
Speaker 2: Melanie Little has a near photographic memory for the testimony
Speaker 2: of this trial and what a lawyer said and what
Speaker 2: somebody testified to Melanie Little is incredible at this And
Speaker 2: she said that there was no cross examination of Officer
Speaker 2: Borrows and that is nuts. That, like, I don't even
Speaker 2: know how that happens unless it was on purpose. Unless
Speaker 2: it was on purpose. And I'm not a lawyer. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, is that just to clarify those points, can
Speaker 2: you and so for the jury one more time, Officer Borrows,
Speaker 2: can you please say the condition of that tail light
Speaker 2: for the jury, because if the tail light wasn't in
Speaker 2: that condition, well then obviously and now I see a
Speaker 2: smash tail light I'm going to put up on the screen.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Judge bed would said, Uh, I need to
Speaker 2: see you at sidebar for like thirty minutes after that.
Speaker 2: I know she's going to do that because she's such
Speaker 2: a biased you know what Amy positive passways. Can you
Speaker 2: read this, Beatrice.
Speaker 3: What some people don't understand is that the conspiracy does
Speaker 3: not have to include everyone, just some and confirmation bias,
Speaker 3: crappy police work. I also think that Jerry didn't see
Speaker 3: reasonable doubt, which I do believe has to be explained.
Speaker 9: Next time day.
Speaker 5: That is amazing, because that's what I've been saying all along,
Speaker 5: is I like I said, the more I screen recorded
Speaker 5: and went back and forth and back and forth through
Speaker 5: everyone's testimony, I think this is that comment was incredible
Speaker 5: and I think this is what it would happen. Something
Speaker 5: happened Brian and Brian. Brian got out of that Brian
Speaker 5: and they called Burkeie. Burkeie was in charge, even though
Speaker 5: he was out with a bad shoulder. He ran interference
Speaker 5: on the Canton police side. The rest of the Can't
Speaker 5: I don't think the rest of the Can't cops are
Speaker 5: in on I really don't think in on it. I
Speaker 5: don't think Mulaney the rookies in on it. I don't
Speaker 5: think Sarah's in I think I think Gallagher questions ad
Speaker 5: just in my opinion, Gallagher is out. I think what
Speaker 5: happens is is they used what they are know how
Speaker 5: the rest of the police officers are going to do
Speaker 5: things against themselves. I think Lank did what you're supposed
Speaker 5: to do. We got to go talk to them. Ah.
Speaker 5: For the most part, I I would have thought that
Speaker 5: if there was someone dead on the front lawn, especially
Speaker 5: after you saw what happened out in Idaho, the first
Speaker 5: person going in the house should have been a law
Speaker 5: enforcement officer, not a civilian. How do you know that
Speaker 5: somebody wasn't killing everybody in the house, right. You don't
Speaker 5: just send another civilian in the house. You send the look,
Speaker 5: you send the cops in the house to go check
Speaker 5: on the people in the house, or well you do
Speaker 5: a wellness check on the house in the house. But
Speaker 5: I think Lank was like, we got to get statements, okay.
Speaker 5: And I think these people and we're you know, like
Speaker 5: I said, we all grew up together. Use the fact
Speaker 5: that they know they can't police, they're friendly with them.
Speaker 5: Brian's a cop. Oh my god, you know this is
Speaker 5: what happened. And then I think they did the same
Speaker 5: thing to Proctor. Is the fall guy and all this,
Speaker 5: I think the whole Juliet, Oh my god, thank you.
Speaker 5: I can't believe you're doing this for us. You're taking
Speaker 5: the case and his system warning him like, hey, this
Speaker 5: is your livelihood, and he's probably texting back yeah no,
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna you know, but what was fed to
Speaker 5: him gave him a bias. They fed him so much
Speaker 5: stuff that made him hate Karen, and he put his
Speaker 5: blinders on. I don't think he did what he did.
Speaker 5: I honestly think the taillight was broken by Tully and
Speaker 5: Burkie back at the station, not by Proctor. Remember you
Speaker 5: have a lot of sorry DJ, a lot of bald
Speaker 5: figures in that station. Okay, hey you know what.
Speaker 2: Bias.
Speaker 5: But so I think what they did is you have
Speaker 5: a couple of people using all everybody else, knowing that
Speaker 5: certain people are going to do the right thing, certain
Speaker 5: people are gonna just kind of do what. You know,
Speaker 5: Sarah's standing around doing whatever. And I think they I
Speaker 5: think they used and I want to I want to
Speaker 5: believe that Mike Lank deep down is angry and feels
Speaker 5: like he had taken advantage of or one pulled over him.
Speaker 5: But they're all being told to stand down and keep
Speaker 5: your mouth shut and let it play out.
Speaker 2: So you think that's why Lank didn't say, hey, oh
Speaker 2: hey Jen, Jen McCabe and Carrie roberts Uh and Karen
Speaker 2: we need to all be back at the station in
Speaker 2: interview rooms. Because he didn't do that.
Speaker 5: No, No, he didn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean either that was he was told
Speaker 2: not to do that or he decided not to do they.
Speaker 5: Were fed, because I think they were fed. It was
Speaker 5: an accident that happened on the lawn and all these people,
Speaker 5: oh my god, and they played it so well that
Speaker 5: they treated it like a motor vehicle accident and not
Speaker 5: an assault, battery, not not something else other than that.
Speaker 5: And that's why, I mean, when was the last time
Speaker 5: a motor vehicles you could pulled someone down to the
Speaker 5: station to interview them.
Speaker 2: And you know what, as far as ball people are concerned,
Speaker 2: Tom put some respect on me and Brian Albert's name.
Speaker 6: Okay, come on, he's John. You're right on the money
Speaker 6: with a lot of with everything that he's saying. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's just that it's just how it is, and it's
Speaker 6: it's a culture of of where we're at now. Everyone
Speaker 6: needs to know something today. This is this is repeated
Speaker 6: to me by a friend of mine. They were at
Speaker 6: a standout and Born and a state trooper came by.
Speaker 6: In the state trooper got on his PA system. Now
Speaker 6: they could talk through the PA yep free Karen read
Speaker 6: fire Proctor and he kept driving as he said that
Speaker 6: this is the troop whoa, that's right there, and Jason,
Speaker 6: I'm a trooper on his PA system, clear as a out.
Speaker 6: So they're not all and not all back. And we
Speaker 6: have to just put that out there.
Speaker 5: Why one personally tell me, he goes if I could
Speaker 5: put them away and close the key, I would absolutely
Speaker 5: his exact words. If I could close the door and
Speaker 5: lock them up on myself, I would.
Speaker 2: I talked to the police.
Speaker 6: Why is that not? Why is that not an option? Though? John?
Speaker 6: Think about it? Is that get the person what he
Speaker 6: values his job as much as he does. Otherwise he's
Speaker 6: not going to rock the boat. So is that person
Speaker 6: corrupted by going price?
Speaker 5: Everybody's going to a price. Some people it's three hundred
Speaker 5: thousand working for the state police with a vehicle, not
Speaker 5: a lot of oversight.
Speaker 6: It's just that easy. It's just that easy.
Speaker 2: Well, John, how come those guys with the government with
Speaker 2: the UFO topic. You know, David Grush and Louelizondo. How
Speaker 2: come those guys had no problem leaving a GS fifteen
Speaker 2: position in the Pentagon over something that they believed in.
Speaker 2: How come how come they we don't have guys with
Speaker 2: that fiber.
Speaker 5: Did they retire?
Speaker 2: No, they just left, Yes, David, David Grush is under forty.
Speaker 5: He's under forty and he was as fifteen how many
Speaker 5: so he had fifteen years in.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a hold on hold on GS
Speaker 2: have to work a G hold on G. A GS
Speaker 2: fifteen is the highest pay grade in the general schedule.
Speaker 2: Beyond that you go up to a level called Senior
Speaker 2: Executive Service. Anybody who's in the sound, who's in the
Speaker 2: chat right now, can just google twenty twenty four GS
Speaker 2: payscal chart and you could see what David Grush would
Speaker 2: have made and what Alezondo would have made. Alexondo definitely
Speaker 2: retired short at twenty years. Can he get a retirement
Speaker 2: a small one, but he would still be at the
Speaker 2: Pentagon today. And and as you know, with retirements, the
Speaker 2: multiplier ads with each year of service. You know, and
Speaker 2: you're high is three years of salary.
Speaker 5: That means his price is higher than a lot of
Speaker 5: other people he valued. Like I said, everybody has a price.
Speaker 5: His price is just a lot higher than And that's why, Well.
Speaker 2: You don't know, you don't know that. You don't we
Speaker 2: know all his prices.
Speaker 5: His morals are still higher than his price. Some people
Speaker 5: don't ever has a price.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't. You you know, you don't necessarily know that.
Speaker 2: You don't know that. That's that's a very skeptical view. Uh,
Speaker 2: there's things that I wouldn't do. For all you could,
Speaker 2: you could offer me all the money in the world,
Speaker 2: there's certain things I'm not going to do. So what
Speaker 2: what we know is what we can see in consensus reality.
Speaker 2: Consensus reality is these two guys quit their effing job
Speaker 2: in the government over something that they believe because the
Speaker 2: American people were being disenfranchised. These guys in Schmucktown, Canton
Speaker 2: won't know that someone was killed killed and won't and
Speaker 2: won't turn over on it someone's dead. That's like a
Speaker 2: whole different level of and and they know that there
Speaker 2: was a ruse, but it's not enough for them to
Speaker 2: say I'm out of here. And that to me is
Speaker 2: what's it's very very poor moral fiber. It's like having
Speaker 2: oatmeal that's really watery. You know, it's so watery you
Speaker 2: just pitch it in the trash. Yeah, please hold your
Speaker 2: applause to the end, everybody. So anyway, I'm gonna read
Speaker 2: a tweet here and then we're gonna get to Sherry
Speaker 2: has a couple of comments, but I'm gonna use Ken's
Speaker 2: NaN's accent. So this is crafty, Chris, Ready, here we go.
Speaker 8: I believe that journey it was tempered with. There should
Speaker 8: have been no way for them to do.
Speaker 2: How is that? Ken?
Speaker 3: Was that?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: I agree, man, But you know, you have to look
Speaker 2: at first of all, there's a little bit of our
Speaker 2: there's people's cultural norms. Police good, criminals bad. This girl,
Speaker 2: single woman, not even married, doesn't have kids, has a
Speaker 2: snide look on her face. Clearly these officers here are
Speaker 2: telling the truth and she's liar, you know, So the
Speaker 2: police tell the truth. So a lot of people have
Speaker 2: to kind of get over that barrier. What they believe
Speaker 2: that is their view of the world, of how their
Speaker 2: societal view that you're trying to push through that, and
Speaker 2: it's very difficult. It's like someone who doesn't believe in
Speaker 2: UFOs And you go, well, I got seven navy pilots
Speaker 2: here that said they saw something that is definitely not
Speaker 2: a terrestrial built craft, and they'll go, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: So you know, that's one thing right there. And then
Speaker 2: the other thing is we have in this country that
Speaker 2: if someone has opinion A, regardless of the veracity and
Speaker 2: the amount of evidence that supports opinion A, I'm going
Speaker 2: to be contrarian and go B because even though it
Speaker 2: makes sense, I'm going to be And then we also
Speaker 2: have that there could be intimidation by the Mcalberts against
Speaker 2: these jurors. You know, you had who is a trooper
Speaker 2: Fanning that was tooling around the jury and what is that? What?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he saw the jury. He was on the bus
Speaker 6: with the Jerry.
Speaker 2: Yes, So what was he doing there?
Speaker 5: What was that effect?
Speaker 2: Were they scared of those guys? Were they scared of
Speaker 2: Brian staring him down?
Speaker 5: In course, I trust that. So the jury leaves all
Speaker 5: their notes on their chairs and then someone collects them
Speaker 5: and supposedly puts them away.
Speaker 6: Puts them in a safe Oh my god, yeah, you
Speaker 6: need to.
Speaker 5: Tell me that. Once again, nobody's thinking of that in this.
Speaker 2: Day and age, they should be putting that in a
Speaker 2: safe that only the jury has the combination to. That's
Speaker 2: a changeable I mean literally.
Speaker 5: With them.
Speaker 6: Well, I understand that I'm a significant other could read
Speaker 6: their notes and then yes, yes.
Speaker 2: I understand that, but they should be able to secure
Speaker 2: those because you're right, that would have meant well, first
Speaker 2: of all, that that could have meant it that Fanning
Speaker 2: could have told Albert who all the identity of all
Speaker 2: these people which way they were leaning exactly. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: by the way, we got to get rid of that.
Speaker 2: We got to get rid of that one juror like
Speaker 2: the day of that the that the jury is going
Speaker 2: to deliberate, because clearly she was making faces at idiot Procter.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I didn't mean to do that. This is
Speaker 2: like AI that they have known on there and I
Speaker 2: don't know why it does that. So anyway, this is
Speaker 2: a first seasons.
Speaker 5: Give me a thumbs up.
Speaker 2: Tombs up that John, How are you there? You go
Speaker 2: cpu This one's for you, sir? Can you read it
Speaker 2: in some sort of an accent?
Speaker 6: Wait, Barrows testified they saw a piece airlight was fell
Speaker 6: inside the housing. Yeah, I don't question I remember him.
Speaker 6: I remember him saying, I don't remember the same cracked.
Speaker 6: He didn't say it was shattered. He didn't say it
Speaker 6: was destroyed. He didn't say it was one functional. It
Speaker 6: was cracked.
Speaker 5: He said it was cracked. And it definitely wasn't completely
Speaker 5: missing or something like that.
Speaker 6: He may have said that a piece may have phoned,
Speaker 6: a small piece may have phone inside the housing that
Speaker 6: he could witness.
Speaker 5: But it wasn't completely missing.
Speaker 6: It wasn't the way it looked like it can't in
Speaker 6: police department. And wait a minute, who takes the freaking
Speaker 6: the murder weapon back to the murder scene?
Speaker 5: Who doesn't?
Speaker 6: Who doesn't?
Speaker 3: And not one picture? Not one picture?
Speaker 5: Three? I got a question for you three.
Speaker 2: I know we're not you know, everybody else Ada, But I.
Speaker 5: Saw this online the other day too. So Carrot spent
Speaker 5: five hours at John's house, right, she goes against Jen
Speaker 5: and carry And the first thing Jen says is, let's
Speaker 5: go back to the house and see if he's there.
Speaker 6: Right the house he just left exactly arms just say
Speaker 6: for the last five hours, right, that was to kill time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes no sense.
Speaker 11: At all in the whole you know that, And the
Speaker 11: fact that Gallagher didn't have cold weather gear, knowing there
Speaker 11: was a blizzard coming, and he lives in Milton, but
Speaker 11: he had a tent in the back of his vehicle.
Speaker 2: Like sociopathic and psychopathic, like I no feeling. Let's make
Speaker 2: sure John dies before, make sure he's a better chance
Speaker 2: of dying if we delay. We don't want ems to
Speaker 2: get there too soon. They might save him. There's something
Speaker 2: else there hidden in Sherry's question, and it's it's at
Speaker 2: the end there. It's kind of like a little cryptext
Speaker 2: that you got to open it up. The tail light.
Speaker 2: A piece of the tail light fell inside the housing.
Speaker 2: The whole point is that after what they did to it,
Speaker 2: there was no housing. The housing was one little piece,
Speaker 2: like near the side marker. So that's a great catch. Sherry,
Speaker 2: d remind us to increase your salary as well, and
Speaker 2: give you a raise because you're right tomorrow. And this one, John,
Speaker 2: can you read this one in some sort of an accent.
Speaker 5: I don't want to do an accent on the You can.
Speaker 2: Do New York. You want to make fun of my
Speaker 2: home state.
Speaker 5: Come on, you know, Sarah testified for the first time
Speaker 5: in the trial. I hit him, I hit him, I
Speaker 5: hit him I hit him. I hit him. I hit him,
Speaker 5: I hit him, I hit him. Why after two years
Speaker 5: he finally said that, I don't think he testify to that.
Speaker 5: I know see, I know that in the fire. What's
Speaker 5: your name Katie McLoughlin when she said that, she said
Speaker 5: that not Sarah. And remember she said, hey, let's get
Speaker 5: Goody down here. But if you once again in consistencies,
Speaker 5: if that had happened, we saw Goody's dash camp. He
Speaker 5: was already there. He had already pulled in before you
Speaker 5: could get that eye hit him. I hit him, I
Speaker 5: hit him, I hit him. When Katie McLoughlin says, hey,
Speaker 5: let's get Goodie down here, I mean Goody left the station,
Speaker 5: you know, the minute he got someone to go relieve him.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing that didn't make it into the reports, right,
Speaker 3: So what was that all credit report?
Speaker 5: Right? Good you felt the need that since he was
Speaker 5: the desk sergeant, that being the senior guy, that he
Speaker 5: should just go down there because it was more than
Speaker 5: just a car accident. It was just a regular car accident.
Speaker 5: He would have stayed back at the desk, right. Well,
Speaker 5: wouldn't the same thing apply when they went and knocked
Speaker 5: on on Kellerher's door. He would have been a senior guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should have immediately taken control of that scene.
Speaker 5: And who and who does this not knock? Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 5: Do you have any cups that or you have anything
Speaker 5: that we can put h somebody's across the street from you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: hold on a minute, close the door, go get the cups,
Speaker 5: come back, give him the cops and then say yeah, no,
Speaker 5: I'm not even the inquisitive of what's going on. Close
Speaker 5: the door and go back to bed.
Speaker 6: No that doesn't happen, No, it doesn't. And and but
Speaker 6: what's left out is keller Her called when the call
Speaker 6: first went out, the car went out to the wrong address.
Speaker 6: He called the police station before anyone ever got there.
Speaker 6: He called the station to Gallagher, I mean Gallagher. I
Speaker 6: thought Kellerher did that.
Speaker 5: No, Kellerher was home. Gallagher did. Because he was coming
Speaker 5: from Milton.
Speaker 6: Gallagher changed the location of the crime.
Speaker 5: Remember he was talking to Kelly Devers. Gallagher was talking
Speaker 5: to Kelly and he said, he goes, okay, I'll head
Speaker 5: there now. Because originally he was going to go to
Speaker 5: John O'Keefe's house to soign.
Speaker 2: I believe John is eighty HD, even though we're still
Speaker 2: looking for medications.
Speaker 6: Ever telling her was never anywhere other than passing house. Right,
Speaker 6: But I'm saying I thought he was awake. I thought
Speaker 6: he called and actually told them so he was well.
Speaker 6: Then who woke him up?
Speaker 5: They must have knocked on the door.
Speaker 2: They knocked on his door, but he believed that either
Speaker 2: Berkawitz or Brian Albert told him don't come out of
Speaker 2: your house. One of the two people are pretty comfortable. Huh, right, right,
Speaker 2: Berkowitz or Brian Albert. I just want to I want
Speaker 2: if this is the Michelle Littlefield, I want us to
Speaker 2: make a round of applause from the one who gave
Speaker 2: up that information for Turtle Boy. And I want to
Speaker 2: hold up.
Speaker 6: If not who that is. She's a great lady.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Michelle Littlefield. If you did that, Uh, we
Speaker 2: love you. I think that is so awesome what you did.
Speaker 2: You're courageous and uh definitely would love to speak to
Speaker 2: you on here sometime. Uh. And yeah, Bald Shade, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, man, Bald is beautiful. That's what I'm saying, Coco.
Speaker 2: You know she loves Brian and you know, all right,
Speaker 2: let's see what else. Who got here. I've asked some
Speaker 2: MSP if they know they can't stand practa uh Born
Speaker 2: barracks across the rotary from the standout you faced the
Speaker 2: MSP bar Yeah, that is awesome, man. I understand that
Speaker 2: it's union and you'll be blackball. But the whole thing
Speaker 2: is is that there comes a time. And I went
Speaker 2: over this the other day. I talked to other mill
Speaker 2: I I okay. So I returned from Boston and I
Speaker 2: went to work on Monday, and excuse me, Friday. And
Speaker 2: Friday was a family day, so a lot of military.
Speaker 2: The military wasn't there, but there were civilians there. And
Speaker 2: I talked to one of my colleagues. He's major, and
Speaker 2: I explained him about Karen Reid and the trial and
Speaker 2: what happened, and he's just kind of he's a senior
Speaker 2: intel analyst. He's a very very bright guy, and he's
Speaker 2: you know what you know, kind of like wow, you
Speaker 2: know all that stuff. And then I told him the
Speaker 2: analogy of what would you do, you know, as military man,
Speaker 2: if you knew that this happened and somebody got killed.
Speaker 2: And I used the analogy. I always used it a pilot.
Speaker 2: We you know, we crashed a couple of airplanes, four airplanes.
Speaker 2: When I was active duty, the squadrons that I was in,
Speaker 2: a bunch of people got killed and they were all
Speaker 2: crew error. None of them were None of them was
Speaker 2: there in a malfunction with the airplane. They were all
Speaker 2: crew errors. And if somebody would have the one where
Speaker 2: people survived, you know, like it was there was a
Speaker 2: hole in the runway, so when they landed, it sheared
Speaker 2: off the landing gear. They no there was a hole
Speaker 2: in the runway till they were rolling on the runway. Anyway,
Speaker 2: long story short, if a pilot did something and got
Speaker 2: somebody killed, OSI, which is the Air Force's version of
Speaker 2: the FBI, would come and interview. They would drug test
Speaker 2: you and interview and I'm going to tell them what happened.
Speaker 2: If we told the pilot, dude, don't do this, this
Speaker 2: is stupid. There are three words we use time out,
Speaker 2: knock it off, and this is stupid. These are like
Speaker 2: our duress words. And if somebody doesn't knock it off,
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna dime that dude out because you just
Speaker 2: either bent metal or you got somebody killed. And so
Speaker 2: that's the point of this is when you stand up
Speaker 2: and say Okay, I'm going to tell the truth, and
Speaker 2: the person who did this is going to take responsibility,
Speaker 2: and the rest of us that did the right thing,
Speaker 2: we gonna be all right.
Speaker 5: Baby.
Speaker 2: You know, there's another career out there for you. Policing
Speaker 2: is not the only thing that there is, believe it
Speaker 2: or not so anyway.
Speaker 5: But once again, some people can live with doing just
Speaker 5: about any job, you know. I mean, I was at
Speaker 5: a job where I joked and I said, I will
Speaker 5: shovel shit before I ever come back here. And don't
Speaker 5: you know, I worked for a company here in Canton
Speaker 5: at two sides I worked on. I drove a dump
Speaker 5: truck for the guy, but he also had a septic side.
Speaker 5: You know. He asked me one day if I would
Speaker 5: drive the trailer because I had a Class A. He's like, hey,
Speaker 5: can you drive the trailer down to the PLYMPT Prison.
Speaker 5: He goes, the other guy will meet you, He'll do
Speaker 5: all the work. I go, No, I go, if I'm
Speaker 5: going to drive down there, I'm gonna, you know, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna help the guy. And I remember just sitting there going,
Speaker 5: I can't believe it. Here, I'm troubling shit before I
Speaker 5: ever go back to another job. So it happens, but
Speaker 5: some people they don't. You know, I'll tell you the
Speaker 5: quality of life for some people is more important to
Speaker 5: them than doing the right thing. Yep.
Speaker 2: And a woman going to jail for the rest of
Speaker 2: her life potentially, and an officer who was killed who
Speaker 2: was taking care of two children. Yeah, okay, that doesn't
Speaker 2: Let me ask this to John on behalf of Mary Malarkey. Hi, DJ,
Speaker 2: can I ask John C About Blank's reply to the
Speaker 2: defense question regarding his relationship with Brian Albert. His reply
Speaker 2: was very telling in my humble opinion. Yeah, how's that? Tom?
Speaker 5: Is that right? In my opinion they weren't friends. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: in my so, I graduated with Blank. After that, we
Speaker 5: barely really had any kind of communications. I went to
Speaker 5: one of one of the one of our reunions. Well
Speaker 5: that you see him, you say it was a hi
Speaker 5: that So once again, I really think the more I
Speaker 5: looked into it or not it looked into it, the
Speaker 5: more I recorded and played and played and went through
Speaker 5: everyone sings. I think Lane's telling the truth. I think
Speaker 5: he's very reserved in his answers. I think he was
Speaker 5: very upset at the cross he didn't like the cross
Speaker 5: and I don't and I definitely know he didn't like
Speaker 5: the fact the low bolato stuff being brought up on him,
Speaker 5: and that that's small town stuff. That's like literally people
Speaker 5: you've known your whole life and there's a fight, but
Speaker 5: one guy happened to be a cop, and and we
Speaker 5: know what came from that. I think he wanted nothing
Speaker 5: to do with that part of the trial. I think
Speaker 5: he wanted that to just you know, hey, it happened.
Speaker 5: I testified, there was an agreement, there was a pavement.
Speaker 5: We don't talk about that anymore. And for the fact
Speaker 5: that defense brought that up to use that to twist
Speaker 5: to make it look like that meant something that he
Speaker 5: was doing something for the Alberts, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I don't think he was doing anything for the Alberts.
Speaker 2: We have to take your word for a bru man.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know these players better than any of us.
Speaker 2: I mean, you grew up there. If you don't mind,
Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you to a very
Speaker 2: generous Mary Malarkey giving another ten dollars to Cable. I
Speaker 2: grant the appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Right there where she said civil he goes we were civil.
Speaker 5: That's that's how it is, right there. They had disagreements.
Speaker 5: I think I exactly what I said a couple of
Speaker 5: minutes ago. You know, I think I think their relationship
Speaker 5: was one of two people in the same profession, one town,
Speaker 5: one city. You do your thing, I'll do my thing. Hey,
Speaker 5: I say, Hi, But they weren't friends.
Speaker 2: I bruh, Man, you know we got we got to
Speaker 2: take your word for it, man. So you know, what's up, temmy.
Speaker 2: What do you got man? What kind of thoughts you
Speaker 2: got in your mind?
Speaker 6: You know, Like Lank may have not liked Brian, but
Speaker 6: I think he knew who Brian was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and and.
Speaker 6: You want to give an another person like professional courtesy.
Speaker 6: He knew, he knew Brian was a cop, right, he
Speaker 6: knew Brian was best friends with his boss, right, So
Speaker 6: he knew he was kind of where he shouldn't be.
Speaker 6: I think, I think because if he wasn't hanging around
Speaker 6: with the chief Lank, then he wouldn't know the chiefs
Speaker 6: and Brian's and Higgins, and I mean, he wouldn't know
Speaker 6: any of that because it's a small circle that they're
Speaker 6: in and they try and keep it that way. And
Speaker 6: they don't want anyone to know anything outside that circle,
Speaker 6: because that's what's make that circle nice and tight, is
Speaker 6: what they share with each other. There was three people,
Speaker 6: and I don't think Blank was part of those three.
Speaker 6: He was not invited into that circle that Berkowitz, Higgins
Speaker 6: and Albert had like that. He wasn't part of that.
Speaker 6: So did he get put in a bad spot?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: Do I think they put him in that spot. I
Speaker 6: think they put him in the spot knowing he would
Speaker 6: do what he did. I think he would walk in,
Speaker 6: Oh it's Brian Albert. Do I have to Yes, I
Speaker 6: have to okay, walk in hi by and then bail
Speaker 6: And that's it. No question whether he thought something was
Speaker 6: amiss or whether he there wasn't. He was just getting
Speaker 6: in getting out and and he had to deal was
Speaker 6: That's that's what you got to do when you're doing
Speaker 6: that type of job. You suck it up for those things.
Speaker 5: You know you're smarter than you look.
Speaker 2: I was. I was gonna say John is actually smarter
Speaker 2: than I look.
Speaker 6: So if you think of those three people, right when
Speaker 6: when that went down, where did Higgins go for the
Speaker 6: hour and a half. He went, He drove to the
Speaker 6: chief Police's house. He's the one and and that's where
Speaker 6: great that is he doesn't call. He knows. Higgins knows
Speaker 6: something went down.
Speaker 5: He can't say he went over the Pleasant Circle.
Speaker 6: He drove to Rafferty's house.
Speaker 2: Is Birkwood's on vacation.
Speaker 5: Norfolk?
Speaker 6: That's where he drove to Norfolk, from Canton to Norfolk.
Speaker 6: Knock on the door, wake him up. Hey, you're not
Speaker 6: going to believe what happened. Blah blah blah blah. Now
Speaker 6: the chief can get on his phone. Because the chiefs
Speaker 6: don't know nothing, make the calls.
Speaker 5: Higgins, Ryan Higgins went back to the police station in
Speaker 5: the more. Are we talking about in the morning?
Speaker 6: Yes, that timeframe is is he didn't he he left
Speaker 6: thirty four right? I think he went with I think
Speaker 6: he went to the Chief of Police's house and then
Speaker 6: went back to the police station.
Speaker 5: Do you think he went to Helene A. Rafferty's house
Speaker 5: down in Norfolk and not to Burkey's house on Pleasant Circle?
Speaker 5: Not Pleasant Circle, but down off a Pleasant.
Speaker 6: Street wherever wherever Burkey was either whether he was sleeping
Speaker 6: over in Norfolk or is that his house? I believe
Speaker 6: he went and went directly to Berkey's.
Speaker 5: House, which I did only about three minutes from failure.
Speaker 6: Well, there you go.
Speaker 5: Four four minutes downtown down past Side, down Pleasant Street.
Speaker 6: If he left thirty four and right to the police station,
Speaker 6: that's what seven minutes in the snow eight.
Speaker 5: Like all right, yeah, so but he would have been
Speaker 5: it would have been it would have been a little
Speaker 5: bit to the police station and then another five to
Speaker 5: uh to the chief's house. Yep.
Speaker 6: So that's my thought there. All right, I'm gonna those
Speaker 6: three were close people.
Speaker 5: You're talking about Burkee, not Helena. I was gonna say,
Speaker 5: there's no way he went to Norfolk.
Speaker 6: Those three were close, Brian, Brian, and they were really
Speaker 6: much and they and.
Speaker 5: Then they and then they called Tully and that's and
Speaker 5: that's how Tully. Tully took care of the side.
Speaker 6: Well, they call Morrissey, called Taly one of the other
Speaker 6: because they seem to have an open door to Morrissey.
Speaker 6: He's the guy in chat.
Speaker 5: Well, when the chief of police calls you at six
Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning, answer it. You're gonna answer it.
Speaker 2: You have to, Tommy. I want to give you a raise.
Speaker 2: And you're not even part of the show, you know,
Speaker 2: And Tommy and maybe John as well, both you, guys.
Speaker 2: So this is Michelle Littlefield. This is the young lady.
Speaker 2: I believe it was the Stoughton Court. Michelle, I have
Speaker 2: put for you, and I realized there could be legal implications.
Speaker 2: So don't don't come on if that's something that would
Speaker 2: entangle you. But if if you can talk about it
Speaker 2: and there is no legal jeopardy and no advice you've
Speaker 2: been given from your attorney. I put the link in
Speaker 2: the chat. I've also put my email in there if
Speaker 2: you If you don't want to come on now, but
Speaker 2: you would like to come on later, I would love
Speaker 2: to speak with you. I know that this panel right
Speaker 2: here would love to speak with you. And thank you
Speaker 2: for the incredible courage. So this is what we're talking
Speaker 2: about here, This is what we've been talking about, guys
Speaker 2: and gal. We've been talking about somebody who had the
Speaker 2: carriage to do the damn right thing at the moment
Speaker 2: that you believe in do the right thing. Price that
Speaker 2: stop saying price, John, It's not you don't know. You
Speaker 2: don't know that, you don't know that, you don't you
Speaker 2: don't know that, you don't know that. It's it's a
Speaker 2: nice you can. You can be as cynical as you want.
Speaker 2: You don't know that everybody has a price. You just
Speaker 2: don't know that some people have a price. Some people
Speaker 2: have a price. So people and yeah, and so you
Speaker 2: have some cowardice dudes who knows what happened here, who
Speaker 2: are aware that there's something happened that won't step up,
Speaker 2: and dudes at are retirement eligible that just don't want
Speaker 2: to be harassed because they want to keep that one
Speaker 2: crib to have there that's in the area of the town.
Speaker 2: And this young lady stepped up and did the damn thing.
Speaker 2: So whether you want to come on now or later
Speaker 2: you are or never, you are welcome to come on.
Speaker 2: So and I put that I put that stream yard
Speaker 2: in there. You just need to click that with either Yes,
Speaker 2: Stoughton Clerk's Office. You're a courageous woman and we're going
Speaker 2: to make another round of applause for you, girl friend,
Speaker 2: Miss Michelle Littlefield. So so anyway, that is in the chat.
Speaker 2: If you have a cell phone and you want to
Speaker 2: hey clerk, Jim, how are you brother? Um, there's a
Speaker 2: link right here. Let me put this thing up on
Speaker 2: the screen. Show me where that where that link is
Speaker 2: if I it's way back there now. I thought i'd
Speaker 2: put it in the chat. Did anybody see it?
Speaker 5: You did?
Speaker 3: You did?
Speaker 2: Can you where am I?
Speaker 5: Where is it?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 5: Oh? There?
Speaker 2: It is right here? So this is right here. If
Speaker 2: you have a laptop, you need a Google thank you,
Speaker 2: Thank you, John. John's my GPS right under dumb and uh.
Speaker 2: Or if you just have a cell phone you can
Speaker 2: you can click that with any either in an Android
Speaker 2: or an Apple and you don't you know, it'll work
Speaker 2: off a Safari on your iOS device. So anyway, we
Speaker 2: would love just to thank you in person or email
Speaker 2: me and let me thank you in person. And there
Speaker 2: we go. Jason Smith with the grateful dead baby. I
Speaker 2: got my new grateful dead belt. But none of y'all
Speaker 2: noticed it that were at the meal of food. So anyway,
Speaker 2: what we got questions for John and Tom here? Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: who wants to read this one? Yeah? Go ahead read
Speaker 2: this one? Tommy?
Speaker 6: Oh, DJ Can I ask John? If Nagel had been
Speaker 6: in a truck on his own, do you think he
Speaker 6: would have lied? Well, let's say he lied, but if
Speaker 6: what if? What if Nigel's in the truck by himself?
Speaker 5: The reason they put we'll go back to Nick Rocco
Speaker 5: was on another show last night. I caught it, and
Speaker 5: I when agree with him. The reason they say the
Speaker 5: jeep was at the mailbox, not they, I should say
Speaker 5: a couple people is to discredit the three people who
Speaker 5: were in the truck pocked right behind Karen. To say
Speaker 5: they didn't see what they saw. That is awesome, but
Speaker 5: I also don't think so. The whole Nagel thing also
Speaker 5: gets me. The plan was there was going to be
Speaker 5: a sleepover, right for.
Speaker 6: A birthday party.
Speaker 5: They're all gonna get a party sleepover. Yep. She got
Speaker 5: there at seven o'clock. Her father took her there. Okay,
Speaker 5: but if you listen to Nagel's testimony, I wait, and
Speaker 5: I could get this wrong. It could have been Richie
Speaker 5: don TONI No, it was Nagel. Nagel said that they
Speaker 5: went to Cemp McCarthy's early in the evening to see
Speaker 5: my sister, right, and then they went up to the water. No,
Speaker 5: then they went up to the hillside. But the sister
Speaker 5: and Sarah Livinson were at the house at seven o'clock
Speaker 5: because there was gonna be a sleepover. She calls her
Speaker 5: brother to come because they live at home right with
Speaker 5: their parents. She calls her brother to come get her.
Speaker 5: There was never a discussion before he got there of no,
Speaker 5: forget it, and it's only a five minute drive from
Speaker 5: the hillside thirty fourth faar of you. Why would she
Speaker 5: wait for him to get all the way to the
Speaker 5: house before walking out to say, you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna stay, which she was staying all along to begin with.
Speaker 5: Why wouldn't she have texted him and said, hey, you
Speaker 5: know what, don't come unless he wasn't coming to pick
Speaker 5: her up, he was coming to drop something off. That's
Speaker 5: just a question. I'm just I'm asking this. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying he did. I'm just it's just just throwing it
Speaker 5: out there that there could be more to why he
Speaker 5: was there.
Speaker 2: I would say that both of her, I mean all
Speaker 2: three of you. Actually, your grasp of all the details
Speaker 2: and machinations in the case are awesome. So I actually
Speaker 2: want to just like right now for for Tom John
Speaker 2: nbia Ken halfway.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think Brian Elbert Junior is more involved.
Speaker 5: I think he's innocent on all of this, other than
Speaker 5: the fact that his family is telling him hearing him
Speaker 5: DJ here's the problem. I'm not When you watch hours
Speaker 5: after hours and you and you and you're recording and
Speaker 5: then you edit it and you're watching it as you're
Speaker 5: editing it, and like, and it's down to the second
Speaker 5: you're going back, That's what's going through my head, is like, Yes,
Speaker 5: I don't know the case as well as other people,
Speaker 5: but I have probably about ninety percent of it in
Speaker 5: my head from the trial, not the grand jury stuff,
Speaker 5: not the stuff that's on paper, because I only focused
Speaker 5: on what was in the trial, what was shown as evidence.
Speaker 2: Well, next time out there, I'm gonna buy you eggs, Benedict,
Speaker 2: instead of you buying it for me as a result
Speaker 2: of your performance tonight. So let me just say that
Speaker 2: I'm going to read this one in a Southern accent,
Speaker 2: since I know you guys just miss people from South.
Speaker 2: What's an inside secret you haven't shared? Johnn't hell are
Speaker 2: we missing in regards to this case?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: What have I shit?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: All right, I'll be very delicate. I had been privy
Speaker 5: to some information for quite some time that all was
Speaker 5: true in the case.
Speaker 2: Said that again, not to give it away.
Speaker 5: I was privy to some information that came out in
Speaker 5: the case. Well ahead and I just kept my mouth
Speaker 5: shot and when it happened, I'm like, there it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dig that. And now Beatrice is going to ask
Speaker 2: tom to share the same secret so that I don't
Speaker 2: have to do it.
Speaker 3: All right, Tommy tell us a secret.
Speaker 6: So early early in the trial, I'm sorry, early in
Speaker 6: the whole camera read movement. Before the trial started. I
Speaker 6: made a post on Facebook and it was pretty unpointed,
Speaker 6: it was pretty accusatory, and I I got a phone
Speaker 6: call that tell tell me all these different things about
Speaker 6: I can't say who it is, but it's one of
Speaker 6: it's one of the people who we've mentioned already. It's
Speaker 6: a very important player. And that person at seven thirty
Speaker 6: am told this person at seven thirty am that John
Speaker 6: was dead and that they murdered John. That's what was
Speaker 6: told to me at seven thirty am. Who knows John's
Speaker 6: passed away at seven thirty in the morning. He didn't
Speaker 6: get called called until ten. They had to bring his
Speaker 6: court temperature up to eighty before they can pronounce. So, yeah,
Speaker 6: this is this is way back. I've known that, and
Speaker 6: and it's yeah.
Speaker 2: And Suzanne Cleveland, our great friend, Well I usually do that.
Speaker 2: Lebron James Lujah Lebron James quote Cleveland, this is for
Speaker 2: you when he won the twenty sixteen Yes, and and
Speaker 2: and this one is even better. This one for bea.
Speaker 3: Serious for anyone. Who the f has adults sleepovers?
Speaker 5: Honestly, No, that's not what it says. Read it. You
Speaker 5: don't say who the f? If it's TF, you gotta
Speaker 5: say you can't say one word, not both.
Speaker 2: Yes, she can because she wants to make sure we
Speaker 2: don't get too much.
Speaker 5: It says TF. And she only picked me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, boy, whoa.
Speaker 5: I have told a couple of people, obviously the whole
Speaker 5: Dixie I do. And I say the screenshot because I
Speaker 5: thought it was hilarious. I have a chat exchange between
Speaker 5: me and the current chief where she was asking me
Speaker 5: if I was Dixie Normus and I said, you know,
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 2: Personally just set it up, but I mean she was like,
Speaker 2: are you go?
Speaker 5: You know? I am like you like because I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't have fake profiles. I don't. I mean, just
Speaker 5: it was I set it up on purpose as a joke,
Speaker 5: not to hide from right. But oh it's probably my
Speaker 5: highlight of twenty four you.
Speaker 2: Know if you know you know, yeah, Well, actually one
Speaker 2: of you guys said one I thought we could make
Speaker 2: a new sticker. Tom said, if you don't know, you
Speaker 2: don't know. So I don't know what the letters that
Speaker 2: would be.
Speaker 12: But make a new sticker you don't know, you don't know,
Speaker 12: and throw that in front of Chris Albert's joint with
Speaker 12: the apparently the subpart Chick and Parmesan.
Speaker 2: All right, I think we have one more video to
Speaker 2: show from John and then we can close this thing down.
Speaker 2: Get some commentary on this.
Speaker 6: John video time you put in his dynam Thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he's a lot of time into this and it's a
Speaker 6: lot of work. So thank you John for doing this.
Speaker 6: I know what it takes. It's a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh John, you dope man.
Speaker 13: Here we go and vehicle placements at thirty four Fairview
Speaker 13: raises significant inconsistencies between testimony and photographic evidence. The details
Speaker 13: provided by Brian Albert regarding the vehicles in the driveway
Speaker 13: and garage conflict with the accounts of other witnesses and
Speaker 13: the photographic evidence from the morning in question, he stated
Speaker 13: he drove the Boston Police Department Ford Edge and parked
Speaker 13: it on the left side of the driveway. Upon returning
Speaker 13: home that no vehicles were.
Speaker 5: In Jay He stated he drove the Boston Police vehicle
Speaker 5: Ford Edge right after being at the hillside in the
Speaker 5: waterfall drinking. Yeah, and yet nothing came up from there was.
Speaker 2: Never drunk driving is not illegal, I guess if you're
Speaker 2: if you're a police officer, it's totally authorized. Only if
Speaker 2: you're civilian.
Speaker 5: That picture up, we know that's Matt McCabe. We know
Speaker 5: that's McCabe's vehicle on the right. Is that a ford
Speaker 5: Edge on the left side.
Speaker 2: It looks like it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it looks like it.
Speaker 5: So that means the car in front of it has
Speaker 5: to be the Caddy. Yeah, right, because if you drove
Speaker 5: the ford Edge back from the from the waterfall behind it,
Speaker 5: meaning that car has not moved right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's that look at the driveways?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that means that's the that's the police department Ford Edge.
Speaker 5: Her Caddy has to be in front of it. And
Speaker 5: that means two vehicles are missing, the Ford Explorer and
Speaker 5: the Ford Edge. One could have had it at school,
Speaker 5: but either way, one or two vehicles are missing from
Speaker 5: that driveway that would have been there the night before.
Speaker 5: When was this photo taken seven am by Gallagher? Oh.
Speaker 2: In the morning of when John was already taken to
Speaker 2: the hospital.
Speaker 5: Gallagher sent Good to go get a leaf blower. He
Speaker 5: took pictures from both sides of the driveway. He took
Speaker 5: this picture and he took a picture from the other
Speaker 5: side so that you see the two cars with the
Speaker 5: McCabe's car behind it. So there is a vehicle missing,
Speaker 5: but it's there at eight thirty when Jen comes to
Speaker 5: put donuts in it. That's so, just like Sean had
Speaker 5: his tail light thing, this was this is my thing.
Speaker 5: The vehicles in the driveway don't line up with anybody's testimony.
Speaker 5: How about this if her caddy, if her caddy which
Speaker 5: is in front of his car, never moved because she
Speaker 5: got a ride with Juliet. Yes, there's Cherry d There's
Speaker 5: two cars on the left. There's another picture when we
Speaker 5: hit play. There's another picture that will show a different
Speaker 5: angle of this. But mind you, there's a there's a
Speaker 5: car in front of this Fort Edge. If we're saying
Speaker 5: this is the Boston Police Fort Edge. So Brian Higgins
Speaker 5: says he made a pass in the driveway. They had
Speaker 5: a wait for him to make the silly pass. Well,
Speaker 5: there's already a car at the driveway.
Speaker 2: So he couldn't have made a pass, or he didn't
Speaker 2: make a pass.
Speaker 5: Because the caddies already in the driveway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he could have. I mean there there
Speaker 2: is the driveway appears to be three cars wide. He
Speaker 2: could have only gotten one, you know, or one one
Speaker 2: lanes worth of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he would have had to do with this side.
Speaker 5: He would have to do the right side or the
Speaker 5: way over off to the right where it opens up.
Speaker 6: On the other side. Yeah, if he couldn't have done
Speaker 6: it right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Another thing, Higgins's jack off. I love it.
Speaker 5: You look at that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so if you look at where that truck pulls in,
Speaker 3: look at the that truck created those lines, the lines behind.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it looks like someone was there before the s
Speaker 6: u V one the left of it, to the right
Speaker 6: hand side, the right hand someone out of the driveway.
Speaker 6: The snows packed down.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that around, No, that could be the tracking of
Speaker 14: the front tie is the front tie is, ye, got
Speaker 14: the outer and then the inner of the back right.
Speaker 2: So so so what what Sherry de is saying is
Speaker 2: there wouldn't have been any snow at twelve forty whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he would have just dragged. You have video from
Speaker 5: both the library and the synagogue the temple. You have
Speaker 5: video from the library and the temple that showed about
Speaker 5: two minutes before no snow on the ground.
Speaker 2: There you go. So that that that settles that. And
Speaker 2: bells is.
Speaker 5: A ruse whatever you call it, that is a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's continue with this and then then
Speaker 2: Ken has another question for John Como, which means I
Speaker 2: need to think of a different accent.
Speaker 5: Okay, So.
Speaker 2: Come on, baby, hearing you?
Speaker 5: Why is.
Speaker 6: But they like Jen, Jen wasn't involved?
Speaker 5: Right? Why is?
Speaker 6: Why are they there?
Speaker 5: Why did you like up at seven o'clock? This is
Speaker 5: so this is about seven fifteen, Uh, well, between seven
Speaker 5: so I found dash cam footage. There was a picture
Speaker 5: around seven where this car wasn't where McCabe's car wasn't there,
Speaker 5: and around seven third it's between seven and seven thirteen
Speaker 5: that that car arrives.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say something, John, there's something reason this thing
Speaker 2: doesn't like when you pause, So I'm gonna try to start.
Speaker 2: We have to play through, okay, because it I try
Speaker 2: to restart and.
Speaker 5: I'll have a beverage what we watch, God bless this
Speaker 5: is stat a little narrow game.
Speaker 2: Come on, damn it. Okay, let's go. Oh man, it's
Speaker 2: gonna off. It's not Operator Eric, come on that it
Speaker 2: hit play. Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not working.
Speaker 5: You get back to your people with your people because you.
Speaker 2: Know, all right, sorry guys. John's editorialization here is what
Speaker 2: is what got us? All right, here's the question. Uh,
Speaker 2: let's see what accent should we use here?
Speaker 5: Jed.
Speaker 2: It was a great question on the Shan Show. Could
Speaker 2: John's a shoe be tested for the dog ahead if
Speaker 2: had was on his the shoe? The answer to that
Speaker 2: is absolutely yes. Uh. But the problem, you know what
Speaker 2: the biggest problem here is ken is when the investigators
Speaker 2: I think en route might have a sign that says
Speaker 2: they can't investigate themselves. And so when you're the state
Speaker 2: agency and you're not looking to investigate or discover anything,
Speaker 2: well that this is therein lies the problem because you
Speaker 2: can't expect the FBI. You know, I don't know that
Speaker 2: they have access to all these people. I don't know
Speaker 2: what they're allowed to do, what they're not allowed to
Speaker 2: do in this case, what what jurisdictionally what they can't do.
Speaker 2: But obviously they're not gonna want to test anything. They
Speaker 2: don't want ring camera video, and when there is video,
Speaker 2: they want to delete portions that would exculpate Karen. So
Speaker 2: that's the problem is not that you know, Karen may
Speaker 2: even have that. Karen may even have that that carpet, right,
Speaker 2: but without being able to get a forensic test to
Speaker 2: that to put her in more debt. The police aren't
Speaker 2: interested if she has John's DNA's on the carpet from
Speaker 2: from the Mcalbert's house. So who's going to investigate it?
Speaker 2: That's the problem. This is why I want people to
Speaker 2: email job Sha Levy or whomever his successor is about
Speaker 2: to be. Certainly the office itself, uh, the the PA
Speaker 2: office there who I meealed? So let's see.
Speaker 5: The one thing, just as an observer, you know, somebody
Speaker 5: just I'm not invested in this case, but somebody that's
Speaker 5: watched all this. The one thing I'd love to know
Speaker 5: is who got rid of all the ring footage from robbery?
Speaker 5: Oh and how was it done? I don't care on
Speaker 5: which side, I don't care who did it, you know,
Speaker 5: I want to know who did it and how was
Speaker 5: it done.
Speaker 6: John was a big dude with with the ring app
Speaker 6: on his phone, he was, that was his, that was his,
Speaker 6: that was what's his hobby, we'll say. He had also
Speaker 6: the ring footage and he was talking to his contact
Speaker 6: at the Canton Police Department about what that ring footage was.
Speaker 6: He was sending it to Kevin Albert at the police department.
Speaker 5: Was at the police department all day long until Procter
Speaker 5: and Yuri showed up around six thirty to pick it
Speaker 5: up to bring it back to Norfolk County District Attorney's office.
Speaker 6: And if John had something that was very telling in
Speaker 6: his phone and he wouldn't give it up, and he
Speaker 6: went to thirty four and they took his phone and
Speaker 6: deleted the footage off of it. I mean a lot
Speaker 6: of deleting goes on in that one little area of Canton.
Speaker 6: I don't know what happens over them. Galaxy Samsung twenty
Speaker 6: four plus.
Speaker 2: That's the newest thing there is, man, probably twenty three.
Speaker 5: It's not it's totally not.
Speaker 6: Twenty five's out?
Speaker 5: You know that.
Speaker 2: Oh you guys behind Man, you guys are so yesterday. Man,
Speaker 2: So I'm skidding. I got a iPhone fourteen, I'm like
Speaker 2: two behind, so on sixteen, I'm on sixteen. Brow be
Speaker 2: wanting to face me up.
Speaker 5: Man kind of stuck in my snuck in my little
Speaker 5: screen recorder.
Speaker 6: I look at that the information that was on John's phone, right,
Speaker 6: like all of a sudden, it's gone, Right, what did
Speaker 6: he send a kit? In police department? They have a
Speaker 6: copy on their end, but John on his phone is
Speaker 6: nothing there. It's gone. Yeah, it was deleted it so yeah,
Speaker 6: the only way he deleted is through the app.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Those guys worked very hard. That's what's so so
Speaker 2: disgusting about what they did. H Yeah, hello, Mandel, what
Speaker 2: does this say? Manda called clay Man, called clay Man,
Speaker 2: called clay.
Speaker 5: Clay Let me give you one more tip. It about
Speaker 5: the Keller Hers. Both Tommy and his father. We're huge,
Speaker 5: uh into firearms. Father had a firearms class. Tommy was
Speaker 5: the firearms instructor. You mean to tell me that probably
Speaker 5: with the amount of guns that they had, his father
Speaker 5: was a collector. I'm sure he has that. He didn't
Speaker 5: have surveillance all around that house. I'm sure the question doesn't.
Speaker 6: I have a question who recovered the keys to John's
Speaker 6: gun safe because there were kids in the house, which
Speaker 6: means that the gun had to be kept in a safe.
Speaker 5: Unless it was on.
Speaker 6: I don't think he'd drink when you know, he wouldn't
Speaker 6: bring a gun when he drinks.
Speaker 5: Really, I know someone that left that that was told
Speaker 5: to leave it in a mailbox.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that's Canton.
Speaker 7: Okay, but you're right where where did has girted his
Speaker 7: wallet gone badge?
Speaker 5: And who picked up all that stuff? I'm sure he
Speaker 5: had his badge on.
Speaker 6: Him, yes, at all times, yes, but it was never
Speaker 6: logged in the inventory to see it anywhere on the sheet.
Speaker 2: You guys are amazing, man, Bia, What do you got, man?
Speaker 2: What do you got for these two guys before we
Speaker 2: get out of here?
Speaker 3: Nothing? I mean, thank you for coming on and you know,
Speaker 3: just freely just talking about what you know, the nonsense,
Speaker 3: and you know we really appreciate it.
Speaker 5: It was always I mean, Tom wasn't here the whole time.
Speaker 5: Just want to let you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I'll stay late after the show though,
Speaker 6: I promise I'll put the time in after.
Speaker 2: You guys killed it. Man, you guys absolutely killed it.
Speaker 2: As we as we go. Before we go, Tom, have
Speaker 2: you been up to any of the French Canadian provinces?
Speaker 6: Is?
Speaker 2: Do you have family up there? Scotia Nova Scotia.
Speaker 6: Okay, Halifax.
Speaker 5: Oh you go to Halifax's the city?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that pretty awesome man.
Speaker 5: The restaurant on the western side. Yeah. All, my my
Speaker 5: family's all in like the between Digby and Yama.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've had the blessing because the Air Force when we
Speaker 2: would fly overseas, particularly the kind of aircraft that flew,
Speaker 2: you can't make it all the way from State X
Speaker 2: all the way up past Canada. So you stop and
Speaker 2: you'll refuel in Nova Scotia, and a lot of times
Speaker 2: you'll stay the night and then you'll take off over there.
Speaker 2: You'll go past Greenland, Iceland, Ireland and then down into
Speaker 2: like the United Kingdom and France, Germany wherever you're going
Speaker 2: from there.
Speaker 5: Stop off Halifax.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm trying to. Saint John's Bay was one
Speaker 2: of the places. And there's another place that in Newfoundland
Speaker 2: that the name of it.
Speaker 5: Is that's on my list. That's on my list to
Speaker 5: go to Newfoundland. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are places we would stop and they treated
Speaker 2: us like gold. And when we went downtown, we felt great,
Speaker 2: we felt at home, and I just got a sense
Speaker 2: of how awesome Canada is. So one love to your
Speaker 2: heritage up there in French Canada.
Speaker 5: Hockey players and horse that's it. That's what comes from Canada. Hey,
Speaker 5: my mother was from Canada. Oh yeah, what team she
Speaker 5: played for?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you guys killed it. Man, We definitely
Speaker 2: got our money's worth. I definitely want to have both
Speaker 2: of you back on calling all beings. I know that
Speaker 2: you've delighted all of everybody here in the chat.
Speaker 5: That's saying I got another one. Sorry, don't leave ahead,
Speaker 5: where have a gm is? Wait? No one finds it weird?
Speaker 5: Helena text with me. Let me clear that up. This
Speaker 5: all goes with the Halloween parade. I was gonna watch,
Speaker 5: and that I did. I watched in the Halloween parade
Speaker 5: there with five of the ducks. I had six ducks. Okay,
Speaker 5: Helena called me. She didn't asked me not to. She
Speaker 5: wanted me. She wanted me on my own to think
Speaker 5: about not doing it. But in the meantime we had
Speaker 5: a discussion and I ended up having a three hour
Speaker 5: private meeting at town Hall with Helena, Mike Lockwran Duty,
Speaker 5: and myself, the four of us in the room up
Speaker 5: at town Hall. And so that's where this comes from,
Speaker 5: with the whole Helena texting me, but it ended up
Speaker 5: going back and forth. We had a three hour meeting.
Speaker 5: It was the same day as that that huge debacle
Speaker 5: at Pequod Side on the last day of the police
Speaker 5: audit there where nobody could get into the police audit
Speaker 5: when they okay, so was that day. That's why I
Speaker 5: didn't go because I spent three hours at town hall
Speaker 5: with them. So it went back and forth. And so
Speaker 5: one of the texts to her when like she was
Speaker 5: like asking me basically like, oh do you have you know?
Speaker 5: I said I go I have no, I don't have
Speaker 5: any I go on as myself, but on Twitter, I
Speaker 5: go on as Dixie Enormous, which was a joke, and
Speaker 5: she had asked me, are you Dixie Normousts I said,
Speaker 5: you know, I am so. So that was the extent
Speaker 5: of Helena texting me, and I kept all the texts.
Speaker 5: But mind you now, James White on January thirtieth has
Speaker 5: a court case over in Stoughton with Chris Alban which
Speaker 5: I was there. I was at the library and in
Speaker 5: the police report it says they tried to get a
Speaker 5: hold of the four people it was it was and
Speaker 5: they were in this their hair. They might hopefully they're
Speaker 5: still watching Dennis Sweeney, myself, Eric did Ramo, and James White.
Speaker 5: And in the police report it said two of us,
Speaker 5: myself and Dennis Sweeney either our numbers were disconnected or
Speaker 5: they were blocked something. It says something like that, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, they have mine or they couldn't get our
Speaker 5: numbers and I'm like, they have my number, they didn't try,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: DJ, before we go, can we just do a quick
Speaker 3: speed round to address Ken's question?
Speaker 5: Yes or no?
Speaker 3: Okay, Ken wants to know before he goes to bed.
Speaker 3: Do our lovely guests think John's car was fixed?
Speaker 2: I say yes, yes, yes, yes, no question was Brian
Speaker 2: Wanless the officer that spoke with Peter Murphy and talked
Speaker 2: about helping them remove the tail light and owned a
Speaker 2: body shop, So who the hell else would have done it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I feel confident in that.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to step out on that lamb Our opinion.
Speaker 6: So we think it's my opinion.
Speaker 2: Freedom of speech.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 5: More than one question? Is speed round?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: I think that was it?
Speaker 5: Is there? Any how could you have a round? One question?
Speaker 3: There is a round?
Speaker 6: You go around?
Speaker 3: I got you on that one. Johnny Boy.
Speaker 2: Keep his ass in love? All right?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: So what is uh?
Speaker 2: Let's see g has those facts? Thank thank you love. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean the blessing. Like all of us are being
Speaker 2: able to everyone on this panel here, able to talk
Speaker 2: to Peter Murphy, and you end up, uh you know,
Speaker 2: being edified on things that you never would have known
Speaker 2: but for Peter Murphy.
Speaker 8: Good night, Ken It's lovely to have you here, and
Speaker 8: we will see you next on the next broadcast of
Speaker 8: Calling All Things.
Speaker 2: Yes, Uh, maybe I should Should I read Churchill before
Speaker 2: we go? Should I do a Churchill? Do you guys
Speaker 2: like Churchill?
Speaker 5: Winston Churchill?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: See, I'm going to recite his speech.
Speaker 5: Running around looking for nass.
Speaker 2: They were the Nazis out of let me see. Uh,
Speaker 2: here we go, so let's close it out.
Speaker 5: He does Susanne. He sounds like Angela.
Speaker 6: I remember her. That's bad.
Speaker 2: All right. Let me see.
Speaker 5: One more minute to make it a two hours show.
Speaker 2: All right, we can do it, man hour, We got it, Yep,
Speaker 2: we got it. Just give me give me one second show.
Speaker 5: Stop looking at your phone.
Speaker 6: I'm I can't, it's killing me here, yeah, jesus.
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, I look up with my TV, and I can't
Speaker 5: even see myself. All I see is the chat.
Speaker 3: Well the chat loves you, John and Tommy, Well they
Speaker 3: love you.
Speaker 6: Back to b.
Speaker 2: By the way.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, you know, I'm going to give you a
Speaker 5: treat because this is not happening in three or four shows.
Speaker 3: Oh no, here we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that moment puppies breathing baby, Listen to Susan,
Speaker 2: look at the stitch. Back to Bruh and Albert. A
Speaker 2: lot can happen in seconds. Oh my god, I think
Speaker 2: his pants are off too. I don't know that's important.
Speaker 5: Said, I had him on that.
Speaker 3: Okay, boys, settle down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna get demonetized. I know it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: I was the first.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 6: Everybody else did it for some you know, for a
Speaker 6: good cause a little bit of money.
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you this is all because of Jen.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, the old it's because of which Jen, Jen with.
Speaker 6: A name, gonna come to the name for that John,
Speaker 6: It's gonna be, It's gonna be or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Ye, so years ago, I should just do it. On Fridays,
Speaker 5: I would post a picture me and my ex wife.
Speaker 5: We would do different pictures of it was like I
Speaker 5: did the Joe name of Fara faucet in the you know,
Speaker 5: with the towels. I did all just to be silly, right,
Speaker 5: I do it on Fridays. And then I had got
Speaker 5: rid of my Instagram, but they had saved the picture.
Speaker 5: And then when Turtle came on the scene, Jen one
Speaker 5: night drunkenly texted Turtle a picture of me and like
Speaker 5: that because they thought I was giving him stuff. I
Speaker 5: had nothing to kill him, but they thought it was information.
Speaker 5: And she's like, he's a boy. It's like, who the
Speaker 5: hell is that. I was in my my Canadian speedo,
Speaker 5: you know, going like this, you know, and uh. And
Speaker 5: he put it up on his show time after time
Speaker 5: and I'm like h and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 5: embrace it, Just embrace it, just go with it.
Speaker 13: And uh.
Speaker 5: And that's so that's how this whole that's how this
Speaker 5: whole thing came about. Is like it was basically me saying,
Speaker 5: all right, Jen, you want to show everybody and you know,
Speaker 5: not the Turtle.
Speaker 2: I got nothing.
Speaker 5: That's when he show I'm like, all right, you guys
Speaker 5: want there, you go here it is fifty fifty three
Speaker 5: year old dad bought.
Speaker 2: I love it. Hi, John, I you know, and really
Speaker 2: any salary that we were going to give you probably
Speaker 2: just gonna get more tips now. Yeah, So if you
Speaker 2: guys would like to tip John, please give your venmo
Speaker 2: so don't it me.
Speaker 5: All right, so I can get a microphone, Yeah, give
Speaker 5: me a microphones so I can come back on.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna this is in honor of Karen,
Speaker 2: Karen Reid and the fight. I'm gonna read Churchill again
Speaker 2: to end the show, and then we will close the show.
Speaker 2: This is an honor of Karen Reid, Sandra Birchmore just
Speaker 2: en route, and of course and Rique I said that
Speaker 2: almost as cool as be it might have said it.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Are you ready?
Speaker 15: Even though large tracks of Europe and many old and
Speaker 15: famous states have fallen or may fall into the grip
Speaker 15: of the gestepo and the odious apparatus of Natzi rule,
Speaker 15: we shall not flag off hill.
Speaker 2: We shall go on to the end. We shall fight
Speaker 2: in Bronce. We shall fight on the season oceans. We
Speaker 2: shall fight with growing strength and confidence. In the air.
Speaker 2: We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be.
Speaker 2: We shall fight in the beaches. We shall fight in
Speaker 2: the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields, and
Speaker 2: in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We
Speaker 2: shall never surrender. And even if.
Speaker 16: Which I do not for a moment believe this island,
Speaker 16: or a large part of it, we're subjugated and starving,
Speaker 16: than our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by
Speaker 16: the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle until, in
Speaker 16: God's good time, the New World, with all its power
Speaker 16: and might, steps forth to the rescue and liberation of
Speaker 16: the Old House of Commons.
Speaker 2: Nineteen forty four June.
Speaker 5: All right, there we go, very good, But that's time.
Speaker 5: Since we were talking about can't you could have done
Speaker 5: Paul Revie is one if by land and two if
Speaker 5: by sea, and I on the opposite shore will be
Speaker 5: You know, you could have done that one in a
Speaker 5: little short.
Speaker 2: Can I get any man for Paul Revere? And look
Speaker 2: who's in there, Bust and Brandy. You know, all right,
Speaker 2: Thank you guys. Oh somebody gave us a detective mulleins. Hey,
Speaker 2: thank you, home girl. I appreciate that. Oh that's for
Speaker 2: John taking a shirt off. You know what it's it's
Speaker 2: a word. It should have gone to just John. Since
Speaker 2: you guys are sharing stuff, thank you for giving it
Speaker 2: to calling all beings. Thank you so much, Tommy, I
Speaker 2: really appreciate having you all swirm. Was it as terrible
Speaker 2: as you thought it was going to be?
Speaker 6: No, it's really hell.
Speaker 2: We exceeded expectations.
Speaker 6: Was great.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be the line once there.
Speaker 6: Right, no where ever go up from there.
Speaker 2: There we gos from Tommy on behalf of many long expectations,
Speaker 2: on behalf of John Camo, Tom DeRosier Bey. This is
Speaker 2: d J saying peace out, what love. We'll see you
Speaker 2: down the road, and we're always wondering what's up around
Speaker 2: the bend. Amen, Thanks a lot,