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<v Speaker 1>Can anybody get in a marriage for Coolio being Benny?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>And free Karen read Nation because it was National Standout

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<v Speaker 1>Day and guess what, well I was stuck out here

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado. These people then went out there and did

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<v Speaker 1>the damn thing just like my co host, you know

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm talking about, the b up to the d

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<v Speaker 1>O double ga from LB Sia.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get la tres?

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<v Speaker 3>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone?

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<v Speaker 3>Hope you're having a good Sunday?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, man, it done just got better because we got

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<v Speaker 2>a pipe hitting him up in the backstage right there

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<v Speaker 2>wearing is Charlestown Chiefs, Jersey. We hope we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>a second French Canadian were waiting on Tom's cpu. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get it going with this brother right here until

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy gets up in the house and then we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>him up in here and it's gonna be all French

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian up in this joint. We're gonna see what this

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<v Speaker 2>brother got to say. Feel me, yeah, I think can

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<v Speaker 2>you feel me? Be a?

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<v Speaker 3>I can feel you, boy, I can feel you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So then, without further ado, using some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a faux French.

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<v Speaker 4>Accent party, people welcome back to the cab, get that

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<v Speaker 4>cheeto dust and that buffalo wing sauce off your damn

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<v Speaker 4>fingers and put your hands together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah there for brother John?

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<v Speaker 5>Come on?

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<v Speaker 6>Where did let me hear them?

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<v Speaker 2>Applause? Baby? Is he mute? He's muted? Where are you come?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you trying to.

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<v Speaker 5>Do with it? But I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna

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<v Speaker 5>do that. What's going on? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness? Uh oh? So somebody's saying, is this

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<v Speaker 2>streaming on Tom's channel? It is not. I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on. I don't know where.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on one second, bro man, somebody's saying about Shelby

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<v Speaker 2>streaming on Tom's channel. I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom was supposed to be here. I don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>his brother at. But guess what. Ken Hathaway is here

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<v Speaker 2>from Nottingham, England, the Crown, which is part of the

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian coming with So anyway, working on getting him up?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, home, girl, where that brother at? Is he sleeping?

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<v Speaker 2>He going to stand out light? All right? Get him up?

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<v Speaker 2>Shall we go over there and roll this dude out

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<v Speaker 2>of bed and get him on screen? Girlfriend? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>John come o, you are a friend's Canadian brother.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I mean born here, but yeah, my ancestry

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<v Speaker 5>is my cousin's grandpa. Every everybody on my father's side

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<v Speaker 5>of the family is from Nova Scotia. Yea.

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<v Speaker 2>And they do that kind of accent you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>May way what the meaning why? I guess?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man, we want to hear some accent here

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<v Speaker 2>before we got to get we got, you know, being

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<v Speaker 2>a break out her Cuban Spanish up in this joint.

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<v Speaker 6>Boy, So.

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<v Speaker 2>She sounds really cool speaking Spanish. I gotta tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't heard her speak Spanish, it's pretty dope.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Uh what's that I said? See time play

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<v Speaker 2>no games?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>So Paula is in the house. That is John's girl,

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<v Speaker 2>Detective Mullins. So welcome in, detective and and yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's do this damn thing. John Man, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you know? Like you must be like the one of

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<v Speaker 2>the worst nightmares for the Mcalberts, because like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all this shiit a d eight.

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<v Speaker 5>I should say it's a hyper focus of the age, EHD.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean things, undred percent out on things. And what

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<v Speaker 5>happens is when you're one hundred percent in on things,

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<v Speaker 5>and all of a sudden you catch something and it's

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<v Speaker 5>just your brain just it's like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 5>got to go back to that. So I at some point,

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<v Speaker 5>I think in the past year or two, well past years,

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<v Speaker 5>I think I've recorded screen recorded about nine of the tribe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, I recorded, I edited, I deleted

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<v Speaker 5>because because at the end of the day, it's one

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<v Speaker 5>thing if one person misremembers, it's another when multiple people

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<v Speaker 5>are uh saying the same thing. But the footage from

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<v Speaker 5>the dash cams, ring footage, you know, it does it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't jive. So so I I, you know, it's to me,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like it's it's not a game to me. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, hey, you know, I want to show that

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<v Speaker 5>this didn't you know, this isn't what they say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is and and and so I think I asked you

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<v Speaker 2>this on the phone one time. I asked you if

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<v Speaker 2>you're as triggered by like Jen McCabe's testimony as I am,

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<v Speaker 2>where I told you like I I almost like want

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<v Speaker 2>to block my ears when I see her her face

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<v Speaker 2>and hear her lie and.

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<v Speaker 5>No, because that's I mean, hey, you put yourself put

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<v Speaker 5>yourself in other people's shoes. You know, you gotta say

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<v Speaker 5>what you got to say, you know, I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 5>in it to the end, no matter who it is.

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<v Speaker 5>There's some people that it's you know, whether it's Lucky

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<v Speaker 5>or the library, the it guy from Canton or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they just you get up. I mean they the testimony

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<v Speaker 5>is is like a tiny piece of this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 5>So they have nothing to lose. You have. And I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, I have tons of questions on why would

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<v Speaker 5>Lally go through all of like this, like things that

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<v Speaker 5>didn't matter if it was a simple hit and run?

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<v Speaker 5>Why did he go back to seven o'clock at night

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<v Speaker 5>if it wasn't a hit and run? Why did he

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<v Speaker 5>go you know, we don't need to know that Alli

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<v Speaker 5>picked up a dog on Elm Street brought it to

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<v Speaker 5>the police station, only for the owner to call the

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<v Speaker 5>police station and say bring it can you bring it back?

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<v Speaker 5>And then like we didn't, we didn't need all that

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<v Speaker 5>if it was a simple hit and run, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So it just seemed weird the way Lally would ask

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<v Speaker 5>certain questions, someone would give the answer, he'd ask the

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<v Speaker 5>same question to other people. And that's that's what started.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, everybody knows when when this all first happened,

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<v Speaker 5>before the trial, when all the news came out and

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<v Speaker 5>tron a boy came on the scene. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 5>making memes. I was the clown, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 5>I was trying to find the humor and all this.

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<v Speaker 5>But then there's you know, obviously there's people that are

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<v Speaker 5>hurt by it. So I kind of moved off from

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<v Speaker 5>the memes. Then it was I was helping, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>helping Kelly out with the popcorn fundraises and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was making music videos and songs, and then

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<v Speaker 5>you know, not of that moved on to I really

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<v Speaker 5>liked finding all of the inconsistencies. And that's why the

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<v Speaker 5>last couple of things I put out there was inconsistency,

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<v Speaker 5>because you can't call it lies. It's not lies, it's inconsistencies. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But are there lies though, or have you found straight

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<v Speaker 2>up lies?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's hard to improve without, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know that you mentioned it. Olivia seems to

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<v Speaker 2>find where they say one thing in one report and

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<v Speaker 2>then or to one officer, and then maybe in a

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<v Speaker 2>grand jury hearing or another testimony, they give an alternate story,

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<v Speaker 2>so that.

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<v Speaker 5>Going by most of my stuff is only from the trial,

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<v Speaker 5>like what they said versus what was posted on the

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<v Speaker 5>screen at the trial. I didn't go back to grand

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<v Speaker 5>jury things and stuff like that, because if you do that,

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<v Speaker 5>then I mean the number of inconsistencies is through the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's startling, right, it's striking.

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<v Speaker 5>Look like a small one. For example, Julie says she

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<v Speaker 5>got out of her car to go bring donuts to

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<v Speaker 5>put him into Brian Junior's car. That's not a lie

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<v Speaker 5>if that's what she was going to do. The inconsistency

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<v Speaker 5>is is his car wasn't there at seven am. So

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<v Speaker 5>that means if she's telling him the truth, that car

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<v Speaker 5>came after the Canton police left the scene at eight

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<v Speaker 5>and who brought it that that's the question who was

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<v Speaker 5>driving it? Because Brian Junior was in the house, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean? Uh, you know where was it where?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, where was it leading up to you know

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<v Speaker 5>before you know, in the middle of who took get

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<v Speaker 5>from the night before.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the inconsistencies, right, and there's like a country

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<v Speaker 2>you know, dump truck full of them. So I know,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's Olivia that it seems like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>what Olivia does is she just looks at at things

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<v Speaker 2>they allege essentially, and then she goes and shows how

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<v Speaker 2>that's not consistent real quickly before we continue, I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to and you know what, where's that They shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have had the donuts because it's way too much processed sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me uh, let me, let me say hi

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<v Speaker 2>to a bunch of people in the chat and then

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get Bia in there to ask you some stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me see. I want to say, see who

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<v Speaker 2>we got here. So we have Paula, we have Ace

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<v Speaker 2>of Stace in here. She apparently we met Stace. She's

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<v Speaker 2>got to remind me through photographic which because I met

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people and I would remember who everybody

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<v Speaker 2>is so that I can associate name face and then

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<v Speaker 2>next time when we do another one of these, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to greet them and know who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Amy's here, Hi, Amy, Amy did come against

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<v Speaker 2>She's kind of like, you know, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do this. It's a little bit crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little out of my comfort zone. And Amy

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<v Speaker 2>came and thank you very much. We've had some really

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<v Speaker 2>good correspondence since then, Amy, You've done a hell of

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<v Speaker 2>a job to go from the situation that you are

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<v Speaker 2>into this sort of highly qualified person that you are now.

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<v Speaker 2>So congratulations homegirl. Shrry Dizzele's here, Hi, Sherry Dizzele, How

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<v Speaker 2>are you? I haven't talked to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was a couple of days ago. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked in preceding the other show we did the other night,

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope you're well. My dear h Lynn Austrom.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe you are from Norway or Sweden? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that true?

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<v Speaker 8>Lynn?

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<v Speaker 2>And she's probably be a No. I'm from friggin' Teoksbury.

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with uh? Do you like my accent?

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<v Speaker 6>John?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I get any Please hold your hold your applause

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<v Speaker 2>to the end. Kelly Stephanie's here, Hi. We had to

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<v Speaker 2>cancel the standout due to thunderstems. You know what, stay

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<v Speaker 2>out of that lightning man. You did the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Debbie Blair is here from the Debbie Blair Which project?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you? Uh? Let's see? And Christina Rossmussen, who

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<v Speaker 2>held a standout today in Indiana with another girl like

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<v Speaker 2>we don't knew she was.

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<v Speaker 5>Thin to do and she got and she got some

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<v Speaker 5>flak on Twitter for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh maybe she did, and that's okay, they'll get over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just don't pay any mind to him. Shelby is here

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<v Speaker 2>one of Tom's mods. The only thing we're missing now

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<v Speaker 2>is Tom. Please go over to his bed, wake him

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<v Speaker 2>up like kind of like do like the movies where

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<v Speaker 2>you roll him out of the bed and he falls

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<v Speaker 2>then give him like a quick cup of coffee. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. Uh who else?

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<v Speaker 5>Who else?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we hear? The legend is here obviously and that

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<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, and Christine, and you did not know? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you know Dennis prior to the Karen Reid case? John?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I'm sorry. I was still looking at Dennis Sweeney's name.

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<v Speaker 5>What was the question?

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<v Speaker 2>No, make yourself at home? Did you know Dennis prior

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know Dennis, but I knew Neil Kellerher's son

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<v Speaker 2>And Lynn Ostrom from Norway says, hey, John, and this

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<v Speaker 2>one right here, you know how to do it? Go ahead, Beatrice, Deborah.

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<v Speaker 5>Homes up homes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds like why did I sign up for this?

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<v Speaker 2>I really didn't need this, you know, like my life

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<v Speaker 5>What oh sorry, I'm multitasking. Yeah, I got my dinner

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<v Speaker 5>I'm at my basement studio right now. So nice dinners

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, God bless hopefully you're tipping the staff

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<v Speaker 2>very well. Brian Junior's frozen donuts. They're so full of

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<v Speaker 2>shit you can see it coming right out of their ears,

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<v Speaker 2>no question about it. Who else, Miss Jessica and Beezy

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<v Speaker 2>has made it in after a night of after a

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<v Speaker 2>night of K nine training, So hello Miss Jessica and Beezy,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see. And also, you know who this is. Lian

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<v Speaker 2>dean homegirl from the class of what two thousand and one? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we got everybody. Let me know if I

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<v Speaker 2>missed anybody, because I'm way behind here. Sammy is here, Sammy,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think all us mods with the guy? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think all of us mods like with the guy

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, may live with a guy like sister wives.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think all of us mods like No?

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to be funny, Sammy. No, I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually just trying to be funny. You may have no

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<v Speaker 2>access to Tom or his estate. Uh that you probably

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<v Speaker 2>have that box at the end where you have to

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<v Speaker 2>push the button and go, yeah, who are you here

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<v Speaker 2>to see? I'm here to see Tom? Yeah, can you

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<v Speaker 2>show your idea to the camera? So no, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily think that you have access to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's Matty Murphy. Miss just get busy. Hello, sweethets.

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<v Speaker 2>course she is Mary Murphy. She's been here for a

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<v Speaker 2>while now. So yeah, I think we got all there

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<v Speaker 2>and there? What's up CPU mod one? What's up?

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<v Speaker 6>Holmes?

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<v Speaker 2>Where my boy at? Tommy? Get that brother out of bed?

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<v Speaker 2>Cost security, roll his ass out the damn bad All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we're good, but welcome, welcome to calling

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<v Speaker 2>all beings, Homie. I know you've been here before, so

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Uh now let me turn it over to

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<v Speaker 2>be of the Deal double Ga so she can ask

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<v Speaker 2>a question to our guest John.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, wait one quick question answer to one of the questions.

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<v Speaker 5>It was in the chat GM, I would I'd love to.

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<v Speaker 5>George had an idea for something the other day we

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<v Speaker 5>just brothers and Cause is kind of I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 5>that the worst thing that it's happened to Brothers and

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<v Speaker 5>Cause has been the Karen retrial. Otherwise the tour of

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<v Speaker 5>us would still have been making the Christmas videos and

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<v Speaker 5>all the other things around town. So for right now,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's coming back. But thanks GM, what

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<v Speaker 5>that is?

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<v Speaker 2>This trial ain't gonna be forever. But I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what I think. After she hands up with the hung

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry again, they're gonna I wouldn't be surprised if these

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<v Speaker 2>jackasses try her again. I don't think so, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>think so. I'll see you get too. I hope I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be wrong. I want to be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. So not only did I get some respect,

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<v Speaker 2>but also the double BA standing stones all right, So

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and bia with your question for Jean.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, speaking about the trial, what do you think is

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen? Do you think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>an acquiddo the next one?

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm. Let's just say there's gonna be one ooh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm hoping for

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<v Speaker 2>right there.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's gonna be Sorry, I'm going with

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<v Speaker 5>it's not. It's not going to happen at the second one.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Like it's not even going to begin on Abra

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<v Speaker 3>Fool's Day.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, it's not happen between now and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, that's a prediction.

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<v Speaker 5>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that prediction. Yeah, because that one I have.

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<v Speaker 5>I have no inside sources, so I used to not anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys say it like Sean, I've got sauces.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the rocks a little while for a little while,

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm not in that. That's not what I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I like just researching.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your like, you knew all these players before,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, Jen Roots in the house everything for

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<v Speaker 2>Jen Roots. You knew all of these players going back

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<v Speaker 2>to going back to high school and so forth. I

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<v Speaker 2>say all of them. Is there any of the some

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<v Speaker 2>of them, Yeah, some of them.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean Lucky Chris Uh, A number of the police

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<v Speaker 5>department people Blank graduated with him. Yeah, there's a number

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<v Speaker 5>of a lot of the names. I mean, you can't

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<v Speaker 5>once again, you've been there. Now. Can is not a

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<v Speaker 5>huge town, and so.

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<v Speaker 6>People know people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what say, Can's not a huge tent. People

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<v Speaker 2>know people. What is going to ask you? Is the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose of that set up?

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<v Speaker 5>There?

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<v Speaker 2>That failed set up that I just had. Oh wait

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, if Tommy's awake, that means we could oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, oh wait, can I do from Young Frankenstein?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys see Young Frankenstein with Gene Wilder. He's alive.

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<v Speaker 6>It is alive.

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<v Speaker 8>It doctor Frankensen.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, I can't believe I'm friends with this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how this happened. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to either be a.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is probably one of the worst decisions you've made.

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<v Speaker 2>I just tune you out. It's easy. Oh so there

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<v Speaker 2>you can see John there, she's got a coping mechanism

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<v Speaker 2>exact so.

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<v Speaker 5>A text, but you can read it off the top

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<v Speaker 5>of your screen rather than opening it so people know.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what it's like being friends with DJ. You read it,

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<v Speaker 5>but you don't want to open it right.

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<v Speaker 2>Away John's I think John's also reading his friendship with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people do. It puts you in good company, It

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<v Speaker 2>really does that.

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<v Speaker 5>I was I snuck on to Sean's earlier today, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I mean for the record. I mean, people

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<v Speaker 5>all were taken. He wants the attention now. I like

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<v Speaker 5>being goofy and some of this just came with with

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<v Speaker 5>with with package. I guess I'm the total package.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we love you just the way you are. John,

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<v Speaker 3>never changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go changing to try and please Brian Alburn. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>change the color of your fu manchu.

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<v Speaker 5>Ooh shape.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the last time I'll ever sing Billy Joel

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. I assure you, Shelby, I will never

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<v Speaker 2>sing Billy Joel in the show again. Okay, so that

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<v Speaker 2>was an attempt. I mean, it's not like my voice

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<v Speaker 2>is not warmed up. You know, I haven't gone through

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<v Speaker 2>the keys.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, come on, how many.

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<v Speaker 5>Minutes into the show are we He's been talking for

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<v Speaker 5>like ten minutes. Yeah, you know, stupid live for twenty

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<v Speaker 5>two minutes. I'll tell me your voicesn't warmed up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not in key, you know, La la la la

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<v Speaker 2>la la. You know, like I need to warm up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the deep never. By the way, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if Standing Stones is from Dean. I am going to

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<v Speaker 2>be making my own not at the behest of the college,

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<v Speaker 2>a Dean commercial with former teammates of mine, to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about how what type of a formative experience we had

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<v Speaker 2>at Dean and how it led us up to today.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got a couple of takers from Dean Sagan.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to be a commercial.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to say the word commercial. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>do my own twitter at advertisement for Dean. How's that Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say commercial.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's poor choice of words. That's why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube and not on TV. That's why Ba is

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<v Speaker 2>on TV and not me. So okay. It's getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>to apply for her sad card. Get who.

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<v Speaker 5>Make you sure? Oh yes, I gotta I gotta get

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<v Speaker 5>a microphone like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, funny people put down hands together for the other

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Canadian.

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<v Speaker 6>My man, I've got a little bit better looking, a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit more hair than I got. Tom Cpu, youre

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<v Speaker 6>not getting man, how is everyone tonight? Good?

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<v Speaker 5>Good?

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<v Speaker 6>Damit?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's honoring you, DJ. He's in DJ Attick type attire.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Bailing it is that cosmic.

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<v Speaker 6>It's getting there.

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<v Speaker 2>That is dope. Man two French Canadian Massachusetts, Brono in here.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, be a take it away man before I

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<v Speaker 2>drive this thing into the ground. What you got what?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Well the thing I want to get from John after

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<v Speaker 2>that ten minute of that ten minute prelude to the

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<v Speaker 2>actual question itself, are there any of these people that

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<v Speaker 2>are that are on the meek Albert side that you

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<v Speaker 2>actually liked at one point or felt comfortable with this

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<v Speaker 2>as a friend.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't hate anyone, but uh, for the record, Petris,

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<v Speaker 5>do you Pechris? Do you have the time? Do you

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<v Speaker 5>know what time it is right now? Yeahactly seven twenty six?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey Tom, the show started at seven?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know. I got the memo a little late

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<v Speaker 6>than that one.

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<v Speaker 5>Memo you come for the three Dames. No, I I

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<v Speaker 5>don't hate anyone. I didn't dislike anyone. I I I

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<v Speaker 5>got along with everybody. I just I know, because I

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<v Speaker 5>mean I had antics before the Karenary thing. I mean

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00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 5>with can't confidential and different things that have gone on

426
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<v Speaker 5>in the town. My brother and I would know, I

427
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<v Speaker 5>mean little things that happened. So I know I'm not

428
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<v Speaker 5>everybody's favorite person because I'm a you know, I'm a

429
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 5>wise guy. But yeah, no, I mean I get along

430
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<v Speaker 5>with it. I got along.

431
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<v Speaker 2>So that's really interesting. And it wasn't that wasn't like

432
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<v Speaker 2>some sort of a cue, Hey say something bad about

433
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<v Speaker 2>the mcalberts. The point of it was to see if

434
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<v Speaker 2>there's anyone that you did have a relationship, someone for

435
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 2>whom you you held in regard until this happened, or

436
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:57.960
<v Speaker 2>was this something where you kind of saw that that

437
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>there was issues quite a while ago.

438
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess you've we've always heard story. I'm

439
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 5>not saying it's corruption with the police bombit and I'm

440
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:17.319
<v Speaker 5>not just saying it's can't police because I've got friends

441
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:20.640
<v Speaker 5>that are on other towns and on the state and

442
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 5>uh in department corrections. People get away with things. People,

443
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it happens, I mean lower level things, you

444
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 5>know what happens, but it adds up, you know, and

445
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:37.720
<v Speaker 5>it's a lot of Hey, I cover for you, you

446
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.680
<v Speaker 5>cover for me, You owe me one, you know, and

447
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 5>it just and that's and that's how it goes.

448
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<v Speaker 2>Tommy, you you were and you know what. First, let

449
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<v Speaker 2>me just say thank you so much. Please pass the pepa.

450
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.799
<v Speaker 2>I got to communicate with you a bit today. Thank

451
00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>you for being so generous. Love in many yads. Tommy,

452
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>you were a police officer. You know, I say some

453
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>of the the audience knows that. Some of the audience

454
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:12.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe doesn't know that. But I have the pleasure of

455
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.440
<v Speaker 2>having one of our first conversations on the phone that

456
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>you shared.

457
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<v Speaker 5>That with me.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Is there something that you saw in your prior career

459
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>that you see as analogous here in Canton or or

460
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:30.400
<v Speaker 2>in the MSPs, or something that you saw, ok yeah, okay,

461
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I recognize that.

462
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 6>I see that.

463
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 2>I remember that.

464
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<v Speaker 6>So, you know, it's funny going back looking backwards. All

465
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 6>the people that I went to the academy with, I

466
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.720
<v Speaker 6>saw them on on TV like a bad cop, like

467
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 6>John says, sometimes they get away with things until they

468
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.480
<v Speaker 6>get caught right and then it's like, oh and they

469
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 6>get fired as they should. I saw some of that happen,

470
00:27:57.640 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 6>and like I left the one time ago and then

471
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 6>and as I was doing my thing, I watch up,

472
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 6>and I know that guy up. No, this guy I know.

473
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.240
<v Speaker 6>So I continue to saw all the people that I

474
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 6>went to the school with getting in trouble. So I

475
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 6>started thinking it was it was the way we were taught, right,

476
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 6>But what they taught us in the academy, it wasn't.

477
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.680
<v Speaker 6>It comes to them down to be people just getting

478
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 6>away with it, getting away with it until they get caught,

479
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 6>you know.

480
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<v Speaker 9>And and.

481
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<v Speaker 6>We had no reason to think that anything in Canton

482
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 6>was bad. We thought that they were like one of

483
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:36.359
<v Speaker 6>the premier police officers, like the police, they were the great.

484
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:39.839
<v Speaker 6>They get paid so much money because they're that good. Right, Wow,

485
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 6>that's what we think. And until you know, you know,

486
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 6>until you don't know, you don't know. So we're unfortunate.

487
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:51.720
<v Speaker 6>We're in a position now where you know it. You

488
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.559
<v Speaker 6>start questioning, now, how many conflicts of interest out there

489
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.039
<v Speaker 6>in this case? You could draw a line with just

490
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:03.160
<v Speaker 6>one jump and you'll get to somebody that's involved in

491
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 6>the case. And usually they tell you when there's a

492
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.680
<v Speaker 6>conflict of interest, you step away from it and you

493
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 6>remove yourself. I don't see how they could have removed

494
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 6>themselves if they're out at the scene with a leaf blower.

495
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 6>Nowhere in any manual have I ever seen leaf blower ever?

496
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.400
<v Speaker 6>So like they take it upon themselves and they get caught,

497
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:27.599
<v Speaker 6>you'll do a little bit, a little bit, a little

498
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 6>bit until they get caught. And who uses the snowblow

499
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 6>in a crime scene?

500
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<v Speaker 2>Are you saying that's not in the FBI's Field Manual

501
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>of crime Scene Investigation? The backpack blower? Are you saying

502
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Speaker 2>that it's not in there?

503
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 5>FBI?

504
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:48.160
<v Speaker 6>And again shocking, Sure, you don't usually have the FBI

505
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 6>involved in in things like this, right, I know, I trying,

506
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 6>but they're not even spoken about. Right, we're talking FBI

507
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 6>like your mind. But here we are. Right, we know

508
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 6>that the FBI is involved because they arrested Farewell. Right,

509
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 6>we know Sander Birchmore is what triggered this whole thing

510
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 6>with John of looking into the Read case. We know

511
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.200
<v Speaker 6>the Birchmore and the Read cases are connected. We know

512
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 6>that by by the FBI. So people that do things

513
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.920
<v Speaker 6>the right way, they don't get caught because it's the

514
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 6>right way, and FBI didn't get involved.

515
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 2>And here we are, well the three thousand pages of

516
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:35.000
<v Speaker 2>information also is was our one? You know, sort of

517
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 2>on ramp to Okay, there's a three letter agency that's

518
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 2>involved with that information. And plus the uh uh the

519
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 2>addition of uh doctor Renschler, and and I'm trying to

520
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>remember the other the other doctors. Can anyone help me

521
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>with the other?

522
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 6>The two? The two what doctors I've seen in this

523
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.599
<v Speaker 6>case that are just so qualified saying that they all

524
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 6>say the same thing. But I don't see the prosecution

525
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 6>shown me anything remotely close of what I see the

526
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.279
<v Speaker 6>defense showing me. I mean, I'm looking for it and

527
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:04.839
<v Speaker 6>I don't see it.

528
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to I want to highlight something that

529
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Gene rock uh Dion Jeanjean Dion said, maybe it's a friend. Yeah,

530
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.839
<v Speaker 2>there we go. I got a Canadian Homi. Never the formation,

531
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>always the individual. Same in the Army, I would agree

532
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 2>with you to this point, Jean Jean Roque, except for

533
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 2>that the army is huge, and we have our share

534
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.319
<v Speaker 2>in the Army, the Air Force, Navy, the Marine Corps,

535
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, all the services. Uh, we have our share

536
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 2>of dirt bags like what you would see in Canton,

537
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 2>p D or MSP. But the difference is these formations

538
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 2>are microscopic in comparison to the size. So what I

539
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>hear when I talk to former officers like cpu, like

540
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Peter Murphy's, they tell me there's it's a cultural thing

541
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 2>that that tells them it's okay to do this. And

542
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'll direct your attention and I'm like to get

543
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.839
<v Speaker 2>go around the horn here from Beatrice to John and

544
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 2>then Tommy is the officer that was arrested recently by

545
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 2>stealing from a couple of different target stores. That was

546
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 2>an MSP trooper. So give me give me your thoughts

547
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 2>on that. Uh was it a culture that that led

548
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 2>that officer to think that that was okay? Or do

549
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you think that was his individual upbringing? So just give

550
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>me your thoughts. Let's go around the horn with that place, Okay.

551
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 3>So I would say it's more that they think they

552
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:31.839
<v Speaker 3>can get away with it. They feel that they're above

553
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 3>the law, and they tested the waters gotten away with

554
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.559
<v Speaker 3>it with little things, and they build up that you'd

555
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:42.480
<v Speaker 3>actually have the guts to, you know, do something like that.

556
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, DJ was, doctor Wolfe was the.

557
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Other one, doctor Wolff, God bless you.

558
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:48.319
<v Speaker 3>You know what.

559
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Let's up your salary.

560
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>No, No, I can't take credit somebody in the chat. No,

561
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 3>something that Amy's positive pathways. I don't I want to

562
00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:58.680
<v Speaker 3>give credit where credit is due.

563
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>You're citing your amy now, that's good. We don't have

564
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 2>to give her be a raise now, So thank you

565
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 2>for that. Good John.

566
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<v Speaker 5>You get away with something once, chances how you're going

567
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 5>to do it again. But when you do it again,

568
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 5>it's going to be even larger. Give you a case

569
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 5>in point. It's not a police thing.

570
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 10>It's I worked at Coca Cola and it was a

571
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 10>large number of drivers that got fired. And what they

572
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.400
<v Speaker 10>were doing is is they would get the bag of

573
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 10>empties from the sub shop right and give you know,

574
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:41.000
<v Speaker 10>they bring them to the truck, give the sub shop,

575
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:44.279
<v Speaker 10>you know, the credit on their paperwork, and then once

576
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 10>they got outside, they would change the paperwork.

577
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 5>Right, yes, right, Well they they wouldn't take bags, and

578
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.240
<v Speaker 5>they were in cahoots with the kid. When you come

579
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 5>back at the end of the day, you drive in

580
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 5>and they would be a guy that checked off the

581
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:02.160
<v Speaker 5>truck everything because they they know what you left with

582
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.400
<v Speaker 5>in the morning and then they check it everything coming back,

583
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 5>and so they were they would give the kid checking

584
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 5>the truck a cut. Well, it wasn't until an audit

585
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 5>came in did they catch this, and that day that

586
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 5>there was drivers like running back outside of their trucks

587
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 5>on their little handhelds to trying to reprint to make

588
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 5>it go back there, and they got caught and you know,

589
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 5>you'll lose your job for that. What happened was is

590
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 5>this was going over the course of months, maybe even years,

591
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 5>that they got away with it. Oh they did it

592
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.239
<v Speaker 5>one time. Oh hey they were now I'll do two bags.

593
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 5>They got greedy. They were doing hundreds of dollars a

594
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.960
<v Speaker 5>day in saying that they were bringing you know, empty

595
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 5>bottles back bags of empty bottles back when there were

596
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 5>no empty bottles on their truck because they got greedy.

597
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 5>And so that's kind of what happened with anyone. And

598
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 5>you do it once, Okay, do it again, do it again.

599
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 5>That's probably what happened with that with that guy in Walmart.

600
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 5>Did it once, got away with.

601
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.199
<v Speaker 6>It, gonna keep doing Tell me he's read on the money.

602
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 6>And the thing is is, right, what about the guy

603
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 6>that's working just as hot as the one guy who's

604
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, involved with that this That some other guy

605
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 6>who's just driving the truck. Hey, I'm I'm leaving money

606
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.719
<v Speaker 6>on the table. No one's gonna do that. So now

607
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.960
<v Speaker 6>the guy and that's next to woman's partner, he's an

608
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.800
<v Speaker 6>honor too. It's just like that. And once you do it,

609
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:39.639
<v Speaker 6>once it's over, there's no going back. You can't go

610
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:45.480
<v Speaker 6>backwards off that line. Just you can't. And takes a

611
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 6>strong person to look and say no, no, no, that

612
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 6>ain't right and walk away from it.

613
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.679
<v Speaker 5>I tell people it's not when when you know. I

614
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 5>deal with money at my work, and I tell people

615
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.159
<v Speaker 5>I'd rather make sure I have a check every Thursday

616
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 5>then risk it on some insignificant amount of money one time.

617
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.159
<v Speaker 5>Whatever it is, right, I'd rather be able to sit

618
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Speaker 5>there a week after week after week than than do

619
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 5>it the other way.

620
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 6>There's always there's not enough money. I keep John to

621
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 6>take money that this for this week, but then that

622
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 6>screws them off for the for the rest of the

623
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 6>fifty two weeks. I think down the road, like is

624
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:22.079
<v Speaker 6>it worth it?

625
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 5>Is there?

626
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 6>Is that really that ten dollars extra worth it? Or

627
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 6>the one hundred dollars? Is it worth that? It really isn't.

628
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 6>In a lot, it's just not worth it. But okay.

629
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 5>And people that spend more time and energy trying to

630
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.119
<v Speaker 5>scam the system, no matter what the system, whether it's work,

631
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 5>whether it's government. Uh, you know, but they spend more

632
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.760
<v Speaker 5>energy trying to do that than just doing their job.

633
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, it's like sergeant's steak tips from Canton. Sean

634
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.960
<v Speaker 2>McDonough shared this narrative. I'm sure everybody in Canton knows

635
00:36:56.000 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 2>about this, about this jackass that is breaking into a

636
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>it was a catering facility and stole stole steak tips.

637
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 2>It was caught on camera. Eventually it got back to

638
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<v Speaker 2>the police, and can you believe they didn't fire that officer.

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<v Speaker 6>He kept doing it.

640
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>He kept doing it.

641
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't once, oh it was, it was over eight

642
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 6>several times.

643
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he got caught eventually, right, and that's when the

644
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 2>woman who owned the facility figured out, Hey, we're missing

645
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 2>steak tips. Let me go back and check. But the point,

646
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I think, the point that I'm trying to bring up here,

647
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 2>or actually the point that I want to get to

648
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>here I didn't bring it up yet, is that what

649
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that guy did right there and and then not get fired.

650
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Who knows. We don't know what he did after that.

651
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 2>What did he do after he got away with that?

652
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Probably something more egregious. And that's really egregious. That's a

653
00:37:56.719 --> 00:38:00.360
<v Speaker 2>b and e. That's a lead. That could be a

654
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<v Speaker 2>felony depending upon what the the amount of money that

655
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 2>he stole, and they let him get away with it.

656
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>That therein lies the problem. Uh. And where I'm going

657
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<v Speaker 2>back to my friend Jean.

658
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<v Speaker 5>Person was talking about I guess to live across the

659
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<v Speaker 5>street from him.

660
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<v Speaker 2>That I'll say, so tell us about that without naming

661
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 2>that person because we don't want to name them.

662
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<v Speaker 5>What two twin boys and uh, one day one of

663
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<v Speaker 5>them was on his bike, the other one was on

664
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<v Speaker 5>a skateboard holding the back end of the bike. And

665
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<v Speaker 5>I'm just sitting outside of my house and he came

666
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:34.639
<v Speaker 5>bombing up in his cruise and he started yelling at them,

667
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:36.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, because they were in the street. And he's

668
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 5>he's like, I told you not to do that, blah

669
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 5>blah blah, and I yell. I jumped up. I yelled,

670
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 5>I go, yeah, I go, you doing it all wrong.

671
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 5>You need a rope. You should be to telling them

672
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 5>on a rope. He turned it to me and he goes,

673
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<v Speaker 5>I'm telling March, we don't give it a.

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<v Speaker 2>Ya. And that that was the same guy that did

675
00:38:58.239 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 2>this stole the steak tips?

676
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:01.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't see.

677
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:05.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't even say how he could arrest anybody. Again,

678
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 2>we had to take annual training, be signed off on

679
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>waivers and favors. So many were fired over my career.

680
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>So that tells us that Diane is a former police officer.

681
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:18.840
<v Speaker 2>So thank you Diane for weighing in on that.

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<v Speaker 6>See, up in New England, DJ is different up here, right,

683
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 6>you don't get fired, but you get promoted. Yeah, you

684
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.519
<v Speaker 6>get promoted because because the people above you are doing

685
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 6>the same thing, so they have to promote you to

686
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:37.000
<v Speaker 6>make themselves look better and to keep them being able

687
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 6>to do what they do do.

688
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's everyone has to get some dirt on him,

689
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 2>so that, yeah, that's how they did it at the

690
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Dirty thirty in New York City and other precincts. There

691
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 2>was a couple of different New York precincts that got

692
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 2>in with the drugs and Beatrice. How do you feel

693
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 2>about this? You think it would have been okay if

694
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:55.440
<v Speaker 2>it were crab legs instead?

695
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<v Speaker 3>No, because certainly not no, no, But you're in the

696
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 3>real world. We have what's called QA, and you know

697
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:07.559
<v Speaker 3>what about accountability? Who's double checking what they're doing. Yeah,

698
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:09.719
<v Speaker 3>like out here in the real world, like I do

699
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.199
<v Speaker 3>a certain amount of work, I'm going to a percentage

700
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.079
<v Speaker 3>of that work gets qaight and they nitpick it to

701
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 3>the very end, and I have to be held accountable

702
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.400
<v Speaker 3>for my actions. So where's the accountability here? Just curious?

703
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<v Speaker 6>See there you go right there.

704
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we get like, you know, in the kind of

705
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:30.800
<v Speaker 2>work I do, you can only give your boss like

706
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 2>up to like a ten dollars gift. But here, I mean,

707
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:38.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, supposedly, you know, Sean reported that Brian Albert

708
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 2>gott envelopes at Christmas and all kinds of stuff. I mean,

709
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.199
<v Speaker 2>it's just there's really just no rules. They just think

710
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 2>that ethics and rules don't apply. And so it's really

711
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.880
<v Speaker 2>a cultural thing. And this is certainly not, like I said,

712
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 2>we have the same I mean, we do have these

713
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:56.639
<v Speaker 2>kinds of people in my business. In the military. It's

714
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:01.000
<v Speaker 2>just that these organizations are so tiny compared to the

715
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 2>breadth of any of the services. Even the smallest services

716
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>like the Marine Corps of the Air Force or Space

717
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Force are considerably smaller than the Army and the Navy.

718
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 2>But these these organizations are in the dozens of people

719
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 2>or less, not the tens of thousands of people.

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00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:24.239
<v Speaker 5>So I won't say what section of Boston this happened in,

721
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 5>but I early nineties I worked in Boston. A certain

722
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 5>night of the week, we had an event. I'm trying

723
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.280
<v Speaker 5>to I'm trying to make it so that you know,

724
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 5>I don't give it away. We had an event in

725
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 5>which we had to have a Boston Police officer at

726
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:47.320
<v Speaker 5>for say four hours. The officer would come in and

727
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 5>it was always the same couple, right, no matter what,

728
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:54.400
<v Speaker 5>it was always the same couple because this was a

729
00:41:54.519 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 5>premiere you know, gig for them. And I asked one day,

730
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 5>I said, I go, hey, how come it's always it?

731
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<v Speaker 5>And that it's seniority was one of them, and then

732
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 5>the other one was because he was the detail sigeant.

733
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 5>He was the one that gave out the details. So

734
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:16.199
<v Speaker 5>he kept that one to himself. And I would always

735
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 5>sign the paperwork right away, and it would start around

736
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 5>eight o'clock, it would go to ten forty five, but

737
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 5>around eight thirty nine o'clock he'd be like, all right,

738
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:31.639
<v Speaker 5>I gotta go check the parking lot. But that was

739
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.719
<v Speaker 5>the cue of see you laa yep, right, get my

740
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 5>slip signed, and I'm like, happens all the time.

741
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it really is. There's a moral fiber that's

742
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:49.679
<v Speaker 2>missing a culture. And I think what Tom alluded to

743
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 2>earlier is if you can get the people under you

744
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.360
<v Speaker 2>to sully themselves. I remember hearing like in The Dirty

745
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 2>thirty where they busted a drug dealer up in his

746
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 2>apartment and there was five hundred dollars, you know, somewhere

747
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:06.440
<v Speaker 2>around five hundred dollars in cash and he's trying to

748
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.239
<v Speaker 2>give it to the other officer because he knows if

749
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the other officer takes it. Well, now he's in on it, right,

750
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 2>and the other officer's going should I, shouldn't I, you know,

751
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. And then once he got

752
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 2>them to take Okay, now I've got this guy roped in.

753
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Now I know he's not going to spill the beans

754
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>on me. And it seems like what you guys are

755
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 2>saying is that's kind of what they'll do, is they'll

756
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Speaker 2>try to see what they can get. Go ahead, town DJ.

757
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.400
<v Speaker 6>It goes like this, it's all about power up here.

758
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

759
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.079
<v Speaker 6>I know a guy and this is the local police department.

760
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:42.119
<v Speaker 6>He was in the running to become chief. This guy

761
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:44.360
<v Speaker 6>was great. He was the one that would take the

762
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:45.840
<v Speaker 6>new guys in his cruiser with him.

763
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 5>This is what we do.

764
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:48.760
<v Speaker 6>Don't do this, you don't do that. You don't touch

765
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:50.639
<v Speaker 6>the radio after two o'clock in the morning, you don't

766
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 6>pull anyone all about just nothing happens after two. He

767
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 6>in another officer who was politically connected, where the other

768
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 6>one was. The politically connected guy was angry at this guy.

769
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:11.559
<v Speaker 6>So the politically connected guy got you know, corrupt, bad

770
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 6>kept going up the ladder, and this guy's doing the

771
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 6>right thing, going to school, taking the tests, getting better

772
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.000
<v Speaker 6>grades than this other guy. Come down to it, and

773
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 6>the selectman voted, and they voted for the politically connected guy,

774
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 6>not the guy that did better on the tests, not

775
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 6>the guy that was the right guy for the town,

776
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.360
<v Speaker 6>but the guy that was politically connected. You know what

777
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 6>he did. This is how this is how it operates.

778
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:39.159
<v Speaker 6>He went and found a stop that this cop did

779
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:43.039
<v Speaker 6>and turned like they did with aiden, turned it completely around,

780
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.880
<v Speaker 6>used it to go after the guy and demoted him

781
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 6>from like lieutenant to patrolman over over a car over stop,

782
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 6>like a cosstop. After that came if he went back

783
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.119
<v Speaker 6>and demoted him over something that happened before he was chief,

784
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 6>just to get after this guy so that he could

785
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 6>not knock him down and he would be not in

786
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.800
<v Speaker 6>a lot of a threat to him at all. That's

787
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.639
<v Speaker 6>that's the rules that they play by up here, right,

788
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 6>And who wants to take that risk, right? That's like

789
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.559
<v Speaker 6>not stealing and getting punished, right, John, Like like not

790
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:24.960
<v Speaker 6>taking the money and getting punished for it.

791
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 5>Buddy Matsey Police basically said to me, he goes. You

792
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 5>never say anything. You keep your mouth shut because you

793
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:35.400
<v Speaker 5>never know who's going to be your next boss. Boom.

794
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 5>That's why they him.

795
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:41.599
<v Speaker 2>It's very very illuminating you guys.

796
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:43.719
<v Speaker 5>You that becomes your next boss.

797
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Yep, very very illuminating. I just want to take a

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00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 2>moment to thank Joseph Kane Joseph King, thanks.

799
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<v Speaker 6>A lot, brother for following me around now he is

800
00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:00.840
<v Speaker 6>everywhere awesome, man, he's great.

801
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Joseph. That is very very kind of you

802
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and very generous of you, sir. Uh And who's not

803
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 2>following around cpu man, I would have fallen around, just

804
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>couldn't find him in the bar so um so and

805
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 2>stalking Tommy. That's great. What's up gg? Welcome, welcome and

806
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Alpine Stars. So I asked this earlier in the chat.

807
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not what you know to you know, absolutely right,

808
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 2>I would ask you, are you a motorcycle rider? Because

809
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Alpine Stars is obviously some of the top motorcycle gear.

810
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Please answer in the chat. Love, answer up in the chat.

811
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<v Speaker 2>And see Tommy likes my accent. He's smiling right now.

812
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>That means I didn't strike out on that one.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Let's get hey, we gotta get into we

814
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:50.079
<v Speaker 5>gotta get into the research of what.

815
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it. Man, all right, so you want

816
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 2>to go with this? Look at John Man, he's the

817
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:57.039
<v Speaker 2>program director. You want to just pick which one you

818
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.119
<v Speaker 2>want here? Do you want me to you can a

819
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>shorter one one that.

820
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 9>My tail light? Look at my tail light?

821
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, hold on there, John, is that it right there?

822
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:10.480
<v Speaker 5>That's the long go ahead?

823
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, everybody get ready for this face that

824
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I know it's difficult to look at and the words

825
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:18.840
<v Speaker 2>coming out of her mouth, but we shall endure together.

826
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 9>Look clock and my tail light. Look at my tail light.

827
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:25.039
<v Speaker 5>You gotta start from the beginning, you know.

828
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, I thought that was at the beginning. Shohnt

829
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:30.039
<v Speaker 2>topping in here?

830
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.760
<v Speaker 9>There we go, looklock and my tail light, Look at

831
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:36.320
<v Speaker 9>my tail light.

832
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:40.679
<v Speaker 5>Well you gotta drag you gotta drag your mouse all

833
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:41.320
<v Speaker 5>the way laugh.

834
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:42.519
<v Speaker 6>I did.

835
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 8>I dragged it all the way to left.

836
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't go any further.

837
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:50.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeady can because it's working right with canning back her out,

838
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:51.599
<v Speaker 5>back up even more.

839
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.519
<v Speaker 6>You got another le like, is it the right clip?

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00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 5>It's the right clip. He's just not right there.

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<v Speaker 9>You go, look clock and my tail light, Look at

842
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:00.519
<v Speaker 9>my tail light.

843
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 6>What's going on here? But let it run through. See

844
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:05.679
<v Speaker 6>if it goes.

845
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's all. I dragged it as far to

846
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 2>the left as my mouse will go. Let me try

847
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the other one.

848
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, all right, well, just it is what it is.

849
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 5>So you have two women who testified on the same day,

850
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 5>so it's not like they had a chance to talk

851
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:27.719
<v Speaker 5>to each other. And it's one thing for one person

852
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 5>to misremember something, but now you have two people misremembering.

853
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 5>So Jen says that Kerry was yelling at Karen, saying,

854
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 5>you hit something, You're crazy, you were drunk. Let's get

855
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 5>in the house and go look for John. You had

856
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:50.199
<v Speaker 5>Kerry testify, you know, look, look you know, and she said,

857
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.760
<v Speaker 5>let's go in and look for John. So both Kerry

858
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:57.639
<v Speaker 5>and Jen said what happened outside and the driveway happened

859
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:03.039
<v Speaker 5>before they went in the house after all, Right, but

860
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:07.119
<v Speaker 5>when you see the ring footage, it obviously didn't happen

861
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 5>the way both of them said it. So how is

862
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:16.039
<v Speaker 5>it two people misremember the same thing. That's the inconsistencies

863
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:18.320
<v Speaker 5>that I've been talking about.

864
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're just gonna say, oh, I don't recall, I

865
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't recall. I must have misremembered. Is what they're going

866
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 2>to say. Bea what do you got on that? Do

867
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:26.360
<v Speaker 2>you have anything on that?

868
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say. They were probably part of

869
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 3>the friends and Family conversation slash meeting, so they might

870
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 3>have not spoken on that day of that they testified,

871
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.039
<v Speaker 3>But they've had plenty of time to prepare.

872
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 5>But they had that story all along, and they probably

873
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.280
<v Speaker 5>didn't They probably weren't brought up to speed with the

874
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:51.519
<v Speaker 5>ring footage. They probably had their story straight, but they

875
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.039
<v Speaker 5>didn't see the ring footage to make sure that the

876
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 5>story that was straight that they were going to tell

877
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:57.840
<v Speaker 5>matched the ring footage.

878
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't. They didn't have the benefit of the

879
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 2>ring footage. They didn't know that existed yet right to refute? Right, Okay, Tommy, Tommy,

880
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 2>is there something like is there a particular inconsistency that

881
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:13.280
<v Speaker 2>that just strikes you? Because I have one that I'm

882
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna present to all three of you after this.

883
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:18.880
<v Speaker 6>But everything the Cape says is inconsistent, It can be

884
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.840
<v Speaker 6>can be thrown out. What what you're missing on that

885
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.800
<v Speaker 6>thing that John just showed you is when comes out

886
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 6>of the passenger side of her car and she comes

887
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:29.840
<v Speaker 6>walking around and she has a black jacket ard. You

888
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:33.639
<v Speaker 6>can see the reflection of the red tail light in

889
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:38.360
<v Speaker 6>her black jacket as she makes turn. Exactly it lights

890
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:43.079
<v Speaker 6>up red. If it was white, you'd see it, Like, yeah,

891
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 6>you couldn't miss it.

892
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:45.360
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't miss it.

893
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 5>When I did the video that we were going to

894
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 5>show someone in and I had posted it on Twitter,

895
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 5>one of the comments was exactly that, right, they go look,

896
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 5>So immediately I went back in, I zoomed in, I go,

897
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.880
<v Speaker 5>you mean miss and then that one well, and everyone saying, well,

898
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:03.800
<v Speaker 5>it's the led lights.

899
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:07.119
<v Speaker 6>Are red and you know it's a hull jacket deathing

900
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.000
<v Speaker 6>lights up. Man, you can see it.

901
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:10.199
<v Speaker 2>You can see it.

902
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 6>I saw a traction, John, Right, you'd be able you'd

903
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:18.639
<v Speaker 6>see more white. There's no way. It's just inconsistencies. Yeah, everything.

904
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I can try to bring that up on Twitter. If

905
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:25.159
<v Speaker 2>you guys want to talk amongst yourselves, Yeah, okay, go ahead.

906
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 5>Sixty Normans is there.

907
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:28.559
<v Speaker 2>You can't talk amongst yourself.

908
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 6>You can't go through the story without talking about inconsistencies.

909
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:36.519
<v Speaker 6>Everything is yep. It just doesn't make nothing, nothing like.

910
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.000
<v Speaker 5>I'll give you while he's while he's looking, I'll give you.

911
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:43.320
<v Speaker 5>I'll give you one. Chris Abbott leaves the waterfall at

912
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 5>twelve fourteen, twelve thirteen and whatever second when he goes

913
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.360
<v Speaker 5>out the door, right, So twelve fourteen, he's out the door.

914
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 5>Now we're going by his testimony, he says he walked home.

915
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:58.000
<v Speaker 5>So if he walked home, it's another seven eight minutes home. Right,

916
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:01.079
<v Speaker 5>where's that put you in the twelve twenties, you know?

917
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 5>Fourteen two. Allie says she picked up Colin at twelve

918
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:11.199
<v Speaker 5>ten and took him directly home. It's a five minute

919
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:15.559
<v Speaker 5>ride home, right, Let's give him seven minutes twelve fifty Colin.

920
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:19.079
<v Speaker 5>By both of their testimonies, Colin would have been home

921
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 5>before Chris, or they would have met at the door

922
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 5>at the least, and that's according to their own testimonies.

923
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I can present this one and the footage from the.

924
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:35.239
<v Speaker 6>Bar right so right, but again inconsistency. They don't have

925
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:39.000
<v Speaker 6>any footage of Chris Robert walking home. There's not one video,

926
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:39.960
<v Speaker 6>show me one video.

927
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.199
<v Speaker 5>He passes the Canton co op, which has multiple cameras

928
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.320
<v Speaker 5>on that bank, exterior cameras, and we all you know,

929
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:49.719
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how many times you see footage of

930
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 5>which they use the the ATM cameras that are always

931
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:57.480
<v Speaker 5>running as people walk by to catch things, you know.

932
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:02.679
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, this one is really quick. This is

933
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:07.039
<v Speaker 2>where Jen's voice is slowed down. But we can talk

934
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:11.519
<v Speaker 2>about Yep, that's that's the red right there.

935
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:18.719
<v Speaker 3>We're not seeing it, DJ, We're just seeing a way there.

936
00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 6>You go there, you go right there, see red?

937
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:22.559
<v Speaker 5>That is Yeah, like.

938
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:26.360
<v Speaker 6>The last frame of that is to called red. There's

939
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.400
<v Speaker 6>no way that. There's no way that's a broken tail light.

940
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:32.119
<v Speaker 2>And then here's the other one that John's alluding to here.

941
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:37.679
<v Speaker 6>Yep, not once? Does does that conversation take place doing

942
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 6>that John referred to not once? I don't see it there?

943
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanna I want to ask you guys to

944
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 2>punch holes in. I'm going to present a narrative to you,

945
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.119
<v Speaker 2>and I want all of you here to punch holes

946
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 2>in this as best you can. Okay, this is a

947
00:53:56.199 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 2>narrative from the trial. Here we go. One non interested,

948
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:09.880
<v Speaker 2>unbiased party that is a part, separate and apart from

949
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:14.320
<v Speaker 2>all of these other police officers, witnesses, et cetera. Is

950
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:21.360
<v Speaker 2>officer Borrows from Dighton. He said, I saw a tail

951
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:25.920
<v Speaker 2>light that had was cracked and had a piece fallen

952
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 2>down inside. To me, now next to that, I'm gonna

953
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 2>present the smash tail light to me. The trial's over.

954
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Tell me where I've missed, tell me where I'm wrong.

955
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Had punch holes in that for me?

956
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 6>Tom, I'm waiting now, I'll I got nothing.

957
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:53.360
<v Speaker 5>This is why I think this trial was all about

958
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:58.760
<v Speaker 5>getting everybody's testimony on record. I really That's why I say,

959
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 5>I don't think the next it's coming. I think this

960
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 5>was all to get everybody's testimony on record. Where they were,

961
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.920
<v Speaker 5>what they were doing. It has nothing to do with Karen.

962
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, punch holes in that.

963
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I can. I think it was a

964
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:19.719
<v Speaker 3>missed opportunity for the defense not to show Barrows a

965
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.559
<v Speaker 3>picture I think of did it look like this or

966
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:27.000
<v Speaker 3>did it look like this? So I feel like if

967
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 3>the defense had shown him a picture of the one

968
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:33.320
<v Speaker 3>that's missing and you can see inside, I would have

969
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it would have been helpful.

970
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Melanie Little pointed out, and that's what is so

971
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 2>valuable about these lawyers is that they they and and

972
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Melanie Little has a near photographic memory for the testimony

973
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:54.639
<v Speaker 2>of this trial and what a lawyer said and what

974
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.760
<v Speaker 2>somebody testified to Melanie Little is incredible at this And

975
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:02.719
<v Speaker 2>she said that there was no cross examination of Officer

976
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Borrows and that is nuts. That, like, I don't even

977
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:10.639
<v Speaker 2>know how that happens unless it was on purpose. Unless

978
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 2>it was on purpose. And I'm not a lawyer. I'm

979
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 2>just saying, is that just to clarify those points, can

980
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.599
<v Speaker 2>you and so for the jury one more time, Officer Borrows,

981
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.280
<v Speaker 2>can you please say the condition of that tail light

982
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:27.599
<v Speaker 2>for the jury, because if the tail light wasn't in

983
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 2>that condition, well then obviously and now I see a

984
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:34.199
<v Speaker 2>smash tail light I'm going to put up on the screen.

985
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Judge bed would said, Uh, I need to

986
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 2>see you at sidebar for like thirty minutes after that.

987
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I know she's going to do that because she's such

988
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:47.639
<v Speaker 2>a biased you know what Amy positive passways. Can you

989
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:49.480
<v Speaker 2>read this, Beatrice.

990
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:53.360
<v Speaker 3>What some people don't understand is that the conspiracy does

991
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:57.880
<v Speaker 3>not have to include everyone, just some and confirmation bias,

992
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.880
<v Speaker 3>crappy police work. I also think that Jerry didn't see

993
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.400
<v Speaker 3>reasonable doubt, which I do believe has to be explained.

994
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:05.400
<v Speaker 9>Next time day.

995
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:09.159
<v Speaker 5>That is amazing, because that's what I've been saying all along,

996
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 5>is I like I said, the more I screen recorded

997
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:15.199
<v Speaker 5>and went back and forth and back and forth through

998
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:19.679
<v Speaker 5>everyone's testimony, I think this is that comment was incredible

999
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 5>and I think this is what it would happen. Something

1000
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:28.360
<v Speaker 5>happened Brian and Brian. Brian got out of that Brian

1001
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:32.480
<v Speaker 5>and they called Burkeie. Burkeie was in charge, even though

1002
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.559
<v Speaker 5>he was out with a bad shoulder. He ran interference

1003
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.400
<v Speaker 5>on the Canton police side. The rest of the Can't

1004
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.079
<v Speaker 5>I don't think the rest of the Can't cops are

1005
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:43.079
<v Speaker 5>in on I really don't think in on it. I

1006
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:45.519
<v Speaker 5>don't think Mulaney the rookies in on it. I don't

1007
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:52.079
<v Speaker 5>think Sarah's in I think I think Gallagher questions ad

1008
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:56.480
<v Speaker 5>just in my opinion, Gallagher is out. I think what

1009
00:57:56.679 --> 00:58:00.760
<v Speaker 5>happens is is they used what they are know how

1010
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:03.199
<v Speaker 5>the rest of the police officers are going to do

1011
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:07.280
<v Speaker 5>things against themselves. I think Lank did what you're supposed

1012
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:09.679
<v Speaker 5>to do. We got to go talk to them. Ah.

1013
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:15.280
<v Speaker 5>For the most part, I I would have thought that

1014
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:19.239
<v Speaker 5>if there was someone dead on the front lawn, especially

1015
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.760
<v Speaker 5>after you saw what happened out in Idaho, the first

1016
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:23.360
<v Speaker 5>person going in the house should have been a law

1017
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:28.239
<v Speaker 5>enforcement officer, not a civilian. How do you know that

1018
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.960
<v Speaker 5>somebody wasn't killing everybody in the house, right. You don't

1019
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 5>just send another civilian in the house. You send the look,

1020
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:37.599
<v Speaker 5>you send the cops in the house to go check

1021
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:39.320
<v Speaker 5>on the people in the house, or well you do

1022
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:43.519
<v Speaker 5>a wellness check on the house in the house. But

1023
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:47.559
<v Speaker 5>I think Lank was like, we got to get statements, okay.

1024
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.280
<v Speaker 5>And I think these people and we're you know, like

1025
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:52.840
<v Speaker 5>I said, we all grew up together. Use the fact

1026
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 5>that they know they can't police, they're friendly with them.

1027
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:01.400
<v Speaker 5>Brian's a cop. Oh my god, you know this is

1028
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 5>what happened. And then I think they did the same

1029
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:05.639
<v Speaker 5>thing to Proctor. Is the fall guy and all this,

1030
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.960
<v Speaker 5>I think the whole Juliet, Oh my god, thank you.

1031
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:12.320
<v Speaker 5>I can't believe you're doing this for us. You're taking

1032
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:16.159
<v Speaker 5>the case and his system warning him like, hey, this

1033
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:18.960
<v Speaker 5>is your livelihood, and he's probably texting back yeah no,

1034
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna you know, but what was fed to

1035
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.239
<v Speaker 5>him gave him a bias. They fed him so much

1036
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:29.039
<v Speaker 5>stuff that made him hate Karen, and he put his

1037
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.239
<v Speaker 5>blinders on. I don't think he did what he did.

1038
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:34.760
<v Speaker 5>I honestly think the taillight was broken by Tully and

1039
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:38.800
<v Speaker 5>Burkie back at the station, not by Proctor. Remember you

1040
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.119
<v Speaker 5>have a lot of sorry DJ, a lot of bald

1041
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:46.519
<v Speaker 5>figures in that station. Okay, hey you know what.

1042
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Bias.

1043
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:53.960
<v Speaker 5>But so I think what they did is you have

1044
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 5>a couple of people using all everybody else, knowing that

1045
00:59:57.800 --> 00:59:59.679
<v Speaker 5>certain people are going to do the right thing, certain

1046
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:03.239
<v Speaker 5>people are gonna just kind of do what. You know,

1047
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:06.599
<v Speaker 5>Sarah's standing around doing whatever. And I think they I

1048
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:09.840
<v Speaker 5>think they used and I want to I want to

1049
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:15.719
<v Speaker 5>believe that Mike Lank deep down is angry and feels

1050
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:19.559
<v Speaker 5>like he had taken advantage of or one pulled over him.

1051
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:22.679
<v Speaker 5>But they're all being told to stand down and keep

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01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:24.320
<v Speaker 5>your mouth shut and let it play out.

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01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:28.039
<v Speaker 2>So you think that's why Lank didn't say, hey, oh

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01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:33.159
<v Speaker 2>hey Jen, Jen McCabe and Carrie roberts Uh and Karen

1055
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:34.960
<v Speaker 2>we need to all be back at the station in

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01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:38.239
<v Speaker 2>interview rooms. Because he didn't do that.

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01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:40.320
<v Speaker 5>No, No, he didn't.

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01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I mean either that was he was told

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01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 2>not to do that or he decided not to do they.

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01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:48.199
<v Speaker 5>Were fed, because I think they were fed. It was

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01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.519
<v Speaker 5>an accident that happened on the lawn and all these people,

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01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:54.519
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, and they played it so well that

1063
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:59.119
<v Speaker 5>they treated it like a motor vehicle accident and not

1064
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:03.000
<v Speaker 5>an assault, battery, not not something else other than that.

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01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:05.800
<v Speaker 5>And that's why, I mean, when was the last time

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01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:07.880
<v Speaker 5>a motor vehicles you could pulled someone down to the

1067
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:09.239
<v Speaker 5>station to interview them.

1068
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, as far as ball people are concerned,

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01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Tom put some respect on me and Brian Albert's name.

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01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:22.599
<v Speaker 6>Okay, come on, he's John. You're right on the money

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01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.880
<v Speaker 6>with a lot of with everything that he's saying. I mean,

1072
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:28.519
<v Speaker 6>it's just that it's just how it is, and it's

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01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 6>it's a culture of of where we're at now. Everyone

1074
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:36.719
<v Speaker 6>needs to know something today. This is this is repeated

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01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 6>to me by a friend of mine. They were at

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01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:41.280
<v Speaker 6>a standout and Born and a state trooper came by.

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01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:44.360
<v Speaker 6>In the state trooper got on his PA system. Now

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01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:48.400
<v Speaker 6>they could talk through the PA yep free Karen read

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01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:51.199
<v Speaker 6>fire Proctor and he kept driving as he said that

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01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:56.440
<v Speaker 6>this is the troop whoa, that's right there, and Jason,

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01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:00.199
<v Speaker 6>I'm a trooper on his PA system, clear as a out.

1082
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:06.039
<v Speaker 6>So they're not all and not all back. And we

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01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:07.440
<v Speaker 6>have to just put that out there.

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01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:10.960
<v Speaker 5>Why one personally tell me, he goes if I could

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01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:14.360
<v Speaker 5>put them away and close the key, I would absolutely

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01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:17.119
<v Speaker 5>his exact words. If I could close the door and

1087
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:19.880
<v Speaker 5>lock them up on myself, I would.

1088
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I talked to the police.

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01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:25.679
<v Speaker 6>Why is that not? Why is that not an option? Though? John?

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01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:30.280
<v Speaker 6>Think about it? Is that get the person what he

1091
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:32.920
<v Speaker 6>values his job as much as he does. Otherwise he's

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01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:34.840
<v Speaker 6>not going to rock the boat. So is that person

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01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 6>corrupted by going price?

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01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.599
<v Speaker 5>Everybody's going to a price. Some people it's three hundred

1095
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:43.079
<v Speaker 5>thousand working for the state police with a vehicle, not

1096
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:44.039
<v Speaker 5>a lot of oversight.

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01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:46.639
<v Speaker 6>It's just that easy. It's just that easy.

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01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, John, how come those guys with the government with

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01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:53.840
<v Speaker 2>the UFO topic. You know, David Grush and Louelizondo. How

1100
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:57.559
<v Speaker 2>come those guys had no problem leaving a GS fifteen

1101
01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:01.280
<v Speaker 2>position in the Pentagon over something that they believed in.

1102
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:03.800
<v Speaker 2>How come how come they we don't have guys with

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01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that fiber.

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01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:05.760
<v Speaker 5>Did they retire?

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01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 2>No, they just left, Yes, David, David Grush is under forty.

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01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.800
<v Speaker 5>He's under forty and he was as fifteen how many

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01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:18.079
<v Speaker 5>so he had fifteen years in.

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01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's a hold on hold on GS

1109
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:25.239
<v Speaker 2>have to work a G hold on G. A GS

1110
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 2>fifteen is the highest pay grade in the general schedule.

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01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Beyond that you go up to a level called Senior

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01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Executive Service. Anybody who's in the sound, who's in the

1113
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:38.440
<v Speaker 2>chat right now, can just google twenty twenty four GS

1114
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:42.199
<v Speaker 2>payscal chart and you could see what David Grush would

1115
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.400
<v Speaker 2>have made and what Alezondo would have made. Alexondo definitely

1116
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:48.440
<v Speaker 2>retired short at twenty years. Can he get a retirement

1117
01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a small one, but he would still be at the

1118
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Pentagon today. And and as you know, with retirements, the

1119
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:59.480
<v Speaker 2>multiplier ads with each year of service. You know, and

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01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:01.559
<v Speaker 2>you're high is three years of salary.

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01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:04.519
<v Speaker 5>That means his price is higher than a lot of

1122
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 5>other people he valued. Like I said, everybody has a price.

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01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:12.400
<v Speaker 5>His price is just a lot higher than And that's why, Well.

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01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:14.599
<v Speaker 2>You don't know, you don't know that. You don't we

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01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:16.239
<v Speaker 2>know all his prices.

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01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:20.679
<v Speaker 5>His morals are still higher than his price. Some people

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01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:22.239
<v Speaker 5>don't ever has a price.

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01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't. You you know, you don't necessarily know that.

1129
01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:29.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't know that. That's that's a very skeptical view. Uh,

1130
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.199
<v Speaker 2>there's things that I wouldn't do. For all you could,

1131
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:35.519
<v Speaker 2>you could offer me all the money in the world,

1132
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:38.320
<v Speaker 2>there's certain things I'm not going to do. So what

1133
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:42.039
<v Speaker 2>what we know is what we can see in consensus reality.

1134
01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Consensus reality is these two guys quit their effing job

1135
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 2>in the government over something that they believe because the

1136
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:55.840
<v Speaker 2>American people were being disenfranchised. These guys in Schmucktown, Canton

1137
01:04:56.320 --> 01:05:01.480
<v Speaker 2>won't know that someone was killed killed and won't and

1138
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.679
<v Speaker 2>won't turn over on it someone's dead. That's like a

1139
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 2>whole different level of and and they know that there

1140
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.280
<v Speaker 2>was a ruse, but it's not enough for them to

1141
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:13.559
<v Speaker 2>say I'm out of here. And that to me is

1142
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:18.679
<v Speaker 2>what's it's very very poor moral fiber. It's like having

1143
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:21.960
<v Speaker 2>oatmeal that's really watery. You know, it's so watery you

1144
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:26.360
<v Speaker 2>just pitch it in the trash. Yeah, please hold your

1145
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:32.599
<v Speaker 2>applause to the end, everybody. So anyway, I'm gonna read

1146
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 2>a tweet here and then we're gonna get to Sherry

1147
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.280
<v Speaker 2>has a couple of comments, but I'm gonna use Ken's

1148
01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:43.320
<v Speaker 2>NaN's accent. So this is crafty, Chris, Ready, here we go.

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01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:48.599
<v Speaker 8>I believe that journey it was tempered with. There should

1150
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:51.079
<v Speaker 8>have been no way for them to do.

1151
01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:53.239
<v Speaker 2>How is that? Ken?

1152
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Was that?

1153
01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:53.880
<v Speaker 5>Okay?

1154
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I agree, man, But you know, you have to look

1155
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 2>at first of all, there's a little bit of our

1156
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:06.679
<v Speaker 2>there's people's cultural norms. Police good, criminals bad. This girl,

1157
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:10.559
<v Speaker 2>single woman, not even married, doesn't have kids, has a

1158
01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:14.400
<v Speaker 2>snide look on her face. Clearly these officers here are

1159
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.639
<v Speaker 2>telling the truth and she's liar, you know, So the

1160
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:19.760
<v Speaker 2>police tell the truth. So a lot of people have

1161
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:23.599
<v Speaker 2>to kind of get over that barrier. What they believe

1162
01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:26.719
<v Speaker 2>that is their view of the world, of how their

1163
01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:30.360
<v Speaker 2>societal view that you're trying to push through that, and

1164
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.000
<v Speaker 2>it's very difficult. It's like someone who doesn't believe in

1165
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:36.079
<v Speaker 2>UFOs And you go, well, I got seven navy pilots

1166
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:38.960
<v Speaker 2>here that said they saw something that is definitely not

1167
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.639
<v Speaker 2>a terrestrial built craft, and they'll go, well, I don't know.

1168
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:47.519
<v Speaker 2>So you know, that's one thing right there. And then

1169
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 2>the other thing is we have in this country that

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01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:54.880
<v Speaker 2>if someone has opinion A, regardless of the veracity and

1171
01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:58.440
<v Speaker 2>the amount of evidence that supports opinion A, I'm going

1172
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to be contrarian and go B because even though it

1173
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.440
<v Speaker 2>makes sense, I'm going to be And then we also

1174
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 2>have that there could be intimidation by the Mcalberts against

1175
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:12.679
<v Speaker 2>these jurors. You know, you had who is a trooper

1176
01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Fanning that was tooling around the jury and what is that? What?

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01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:21.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he saw the jury. He was on the bus

1178
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:22.320
<v Speaker 6>with the Jerry.

1179
01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So what was he doing there?

1180
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:25.800
<v Speaker 5>What was that effect?

1181
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Were they scared of those guys? Were they scared of

1182
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Brian staring him down?

1183
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:33.239
<v Speaker 5>In course, I trust that. So the jury leaves all

1184
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:35.840
<v Speaker 5>their notes on their chairs and then someone collects them

1185
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:37.239
<v Speaker 5>and supposedly puts them away.

1186
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:39.800
<v Speaker 6>Puts them in a safe Oh my god, yeah, you

1187
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 6>need to.

1188
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:43.920
<v Speaker 5>Tell me that. Once again, nobody's thinking of that in this.

1189
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Day and age, they should be putting that in a

1190
01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:52.159
<v Speaker 2>safe that only the jury has the combination to. That's

1191
01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:54.239
<v Speaker 2>a changeable I mean literally.

1192
01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:56.199
<v Speaker 5>With them.

1193
01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:02.239
<v Speaker 6>Well, I understand that I'm a significant other could read

1194
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:04.480
<v Speaker 6>their notes and then yes, yes.

1195
01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I understand that, but they should be able to secure

1196
01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:10.719
<v Speaker 2>those because you're right, that would have meant well, first

1197
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:13.599
<v Speaker 2>of all, that that could have meant it that Fanning

1198
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:16.399
<v Speaker 2>could have told Albert who all the identity of all

1199
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:21.279
<v Speaker 2>these people which way they were leaning exactly. Yeah, and

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01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:23.079
<v Speaker 2>by the way, we got to get rid of that.

1201
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:25.439
<v Speaker 2>We got to get rid of that one juror like

1202
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:28.039
<v Speaker 2>the day of that the that the jury is going

1203
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:32.439
<v Speaker 2>to deliberate, because clearly she was making faces at idiot Procter.

1204
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:35.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I didn't mean to do that. This is

1205
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:37.680
<v Speaker 2>like AI that they have known on there and I

1206
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:42.439
<v Speaker 2>don't know why it does that. So anyway, this is

1207
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:43.520
<v Speaker 2>a first seasons.

1208
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:44.880
<v Speaker 5>Give me a thumbs up.

1209
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Tombs up that John, How are you there? You go

1210
01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:53.159
<v Speaker 2>cpu This one's for you, sir? Can you read it

1211
01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:54.399
<v Speaker 2>in some sort of an accent?

1212
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<v Speaker 6>Wait, Barrows testified they saw a piece airlight was fell

1213
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:07.520
<v Speaker 6>inside the housing. Yeah, I don't question I remember him.

1214
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:11.920
<v Speaker 6>I remember him saying, I don't remember the same cracked.

1215
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:14.159
<v Speaker 6>He didn't say it was shattered. He didn't say it

1216
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:17.039
<v Speaker 6>was destroyed. He didn't say it was one functional. It

1217
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:17.680
<v Speaker 6>was cracked.

1218
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:20.840
<v Speaker 5>He said it was cracked. And it definitely wasn't completely

1219
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:22.000
<v Speaker 5>missing or something like that.

1220
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:24.840
<v Speaker 6>He may have said that a piece may have phoned,

1221
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:28.000
<v Speaker 6>a small piece may have phone inside the housing that

1222
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:29.359
<v Speaker 6>he could witness.

1223
01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:30.840
<v Speaker 5>But it wasn't completely missing.

1224
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:32.760
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't the way it looked like it can't in

1225
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.520
<v Speaker 6>police department. And wait a minute, who takes the freaking

1226
01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:37.680
<v Speaker 6>the murder weapon back to the murder scene?

1227
01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:38.399
<v Speaker 5>Who doesn't?

1228
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:39.960
<v Speaker 6>Who doesn't?

1229
01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:44.039
<v Speaker 3>And not one picture? Not one picture?

1230
01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:48.840
<v Speaker 5>Three? I got a question for you three.

1231
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I know we're not you know, everybody else Ada, But I.

1232
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:57.880
<v Speaker 5>Saw this online the other day too. So Carrot spent

1233
01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:02.079
<v Speaker 5>five hours at John's house, right, she goes against Jen

1234
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:05.960
<v Speaker 5>and carry And the first thing Jen says is, let's

1235
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:09.239
<v Speaker 5>go back to the house and see if he's there.

1236
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.680
<v Speaker 6>Right the house he just left exactly arms just say

1237
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:17.800
<v Speaker 6>for the last five hours, right, that was to kill time.

1238
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes no sense.

1239
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:24.800
<v Speaker 11>At all in the whole you know that, And the

1240
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:29.640
<v Speaker 11>fact that Gallagher didn't have cold weather gear, knowing there

1241
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:32.079
<v Speaker 11>was a blizzard coming, and he lives in Milton, but

1242
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:33.800
<v Speaker 11>he had a tent in the back of his vehicle.

1243
01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Like sociopathic and psychopathic, like I no feeling. Let's make

1244
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:43.680
<v Speaker 2>sure John dies before, make sure he's a better chance

1245
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:46.000
<v Speaker 2>of dying if we delay. We don't want ems to

1246
01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:49.960
<v Speaker 2>get there too soon. They might save him. There's something

1247
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:54.399
<v Speaker 2>else there hidden in Sherry's question, and it's it's at

1248
01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 2>the end there. It's kind of like a little cryptext

1249
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:59.000
<v Speaker 2>that you got to open it up. The tail light.

1250
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 2>A piece of the tail light fell inside the housing.

1251
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:04.720
<v Speaker 2>The whole point is that after what they did to it,

1252
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:09.439
<v Speaker 2>there was no housing. The housing was one little piece,

1253
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:12.880
<v Speaker 2>like near the side marker. So that's a great catch. Sherry,

1254
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:17.119
<v Speaker 2>d remind us to increase your salary as well, and

1255
01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:21.600
<v Speaker 2>give you a raise because you're right tomorrow. And this one, John,

1256
01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:23.640
<v Speaker 2>can you read this one in some sort of an accent.

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01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:28.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to do an accent on the You can.

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<v Speaker 2>Do New York. You want to make fun of my

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01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:30.720
<v Speaker 2>home state.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, you know, Sarah testified for the first time

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01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:35.119
<v Speaker 5>in the trial. I hit him, I hit him, I

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01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:36.920
<v Speaker 5>hit him I hit him. I hit him. I hit him,

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01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:39.119
<v Speaker 5>I hit him, I hit him. Why after two years

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01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:43.319
<v Speaker 5>he finally said that, I don't think he testify to that.

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<v Speaker 5>I know see, I know that in the fire. What's

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01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:54.760
<v Speaker 5>your name Katie McLoughlin when she said that, she said

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01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:58.279
<v Speaker 5>that not Sarah. And remember she said, hey, let's get

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01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:01.880
<v Speaker 5>Goody down here. But if you once again in consistencies,

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01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.520
<v Speaker 5>if that had happened, we saw Goody's dash camp. He

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01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:09.920
<v Speaker 5>was already there. He had already pulled in before you

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01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 5>could get that eye hit him. I hit him, I

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01:12:11.319 --> 01:12:14.840
<v Speaker 5>hit him, I hit him. When Katie McLoughlin says, hey,

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01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:17.840
<v Speaker 5>let's get Goodie down here, I mean Goody left the station,

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01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:21.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, the minute he got someone to go relieve him.

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<v Speaker 3>And the funny thing that didn't make it into the reports, right,

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01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 3>So what was that all credit report?

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01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:34.079
<v Speaker 5>Right? Good you felt the need that since he was

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01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:38.960
<v Speaker 5>the desk sergeant, that being the senior guy, that he

1279
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:40.760
<v Speaker 5>should just go down there because it was more than

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01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:43.000
<v Speaker 5>just a car accident. It was just a regular car accident.

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01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:46.520
<v Speaker 5>He would have stayed back at the desk, right. Well,

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01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:49.239
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't the same thing apply when they went and knocked

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01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:52.760
<v Speaker 5>on on Kellerher's door. He would have been a senior guy.

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01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he should have immediately taken control of that scene.

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01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:01.199
<v Speaker 5>And who and who does this not knock? Yeah, what's up?

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01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:01.479
<v Speaker 6>Hey?

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01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:03.600
<v Speaker 5>Do you have any cups that or you have anything

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01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 5>that we can put h somebody's across the street from you. Yeah,

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01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:11.680
<v Speaker 5>hold on a minute, close the door, go get the cups,

1290
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:14.840
<v Speaker 5>come back, give him the cops and then say yeah, no,

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01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:18.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm not even the inquisitive of what's going on. Close

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01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:20.079
<v Speaker 5>the door and go back to bed.

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01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:24.159
<v Speaker 6>No that doesn't happen, No, it doesn't. And and but

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01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:28.800
<v Speaker 6>what's left out is keller Her called when the call

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01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:32.119
<v Speaker 6>first went out, the car went out to the wrong address.

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01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:36.159
<v Speaker 6>He called the police station before anyone ever got there.

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01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:41.600
<v Speaker 6>He called the station to Gallagher, I mean Gallagher. I

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01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:42.960
<v Speaker 6>thought Kellerher did that.

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<v Speaker 5>No, Kellerher was home. Gallagher did. Because he was coming

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01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:47.319
<v Speaker 5>from Milton.

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01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:51.159
<v Speaker 6>Gallagher changed the location of the crime.

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01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:56.039
<v Speaker 5>Remember he was talking to Kelly Devers. Gallagher was talking

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01:13:56.079 --> 01:13:58.600
<v Speaker 5>to Kelly and he said, he goes, okay, I'll head

1304
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:01.720
<v Speaker 5>there now. Because originally he was going to go to

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01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 5>John O'Keefe's house to soign.

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01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I believe John is eighty HD, even though we're still

1307
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:11.359
<v Speaker 2>looking for medications.

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01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:17.079
<v Speaker 6>Ever telling her was never anywhere other than passing house. Right,

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01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:19.520
<v Speaker 6>But I'm saying I thought he was awake. I thought

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01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:23.479
<v Speaker 6>he called and actually told them so he was well.

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01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:24.359
<v Speaker 6>Then who woke him up?

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01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:26.720
<v Speaker 5>They must have knocked on the door.

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01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.039
<v Speaker 2>They knocked on his door, but he believed that either

1314
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Berkawitz or Brian Albert told him don't come out of

1315
01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:38.039
<v Speaker 2>your house. One of the two people are pretty comfortable. Huh, right, right,

1316
01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Berkowitz or Brian Albert. I just want to I want

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01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:44.039
<v Speaker 2>if this is the Michelle Littlefield, I want us to

1318
01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:46.880
<v Speaker 2>make a round of applause from the one who gave

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01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.399
<v Speaker 2>up that information for Turtle Boy. And I want to

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01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:50.319
<v Speaker 2>hold up.

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01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:55.920
<v Speaker 6>If not who that is. She's a great lady.

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01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Michelle Littlefield. If you did that, Uh, we

1323
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:03.800
<v Speaker 2>love you. I think that is so awesome what you did.

1324
01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:07.680
<v Speaker 2>You're courageous and uh definitely would love to speak to

1325
01:15:07.720 --> 01:15:13.159
<v Speaker 2>you on here sometime. Uh. And yeah, Bald Shade, Yeah,

1326
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I know, man, Bald is beautiful. That's what I'm saying, Coco.

1327
01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:19.520
<v Speaker 2>You know she loves Brian and you know, all right,

1328
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:24.119
<v Speaker 2>let's see what else. Who got here. I've asked some

1329
01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:29.279
<v Speaker 2>MSP if they know they can't stand practa uh Born

1330
01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:33.399
<v Speaker 2>barracks across the rotary from the standout you faced the

1331
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:39.279
<v Speaker 2>MSP bar Yeah, that is awesome, man. I understand that

1332
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:42.439
<v Speaker 2>it's union and you'll be blackball. But the whole thing

1333
01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:45.760
<v Speaker 2>is is that there comes a time. And I went

1334
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:47.960
<v Speaker 2>over this the other day. I talked to other mill

1335
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I I okay. So I returned from Boston and I

1336
01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:56.399
<v Speaker 2>went to work on Monday, and excuse me, Friday. And

1337
01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Friday was a family day, so a lot of military.

1338
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:04.720
<v Speaker 2>The military wasn't there, but there were civilians there. And

1339
01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I talked to one of my colleagues. He's major, and

1340
01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 2>I explained him about Karen Reid and the trial and

1341
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:13.039
<v Speaker 2>what happened, and he's just kind of he's a senior

1342
01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:16.560
<v Speaker 2>intel analyst. He's a very very bright guy, and he's

1343
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:18.399
<v Speaker 2>you know what you know, kind of like wow, you

1344
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:21.039
<v Speaker 2>know all that stuff. And then I told him the

1345
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:25.239
<v Speaker 2>analogy of what would you do, you know, as military man,

1346
01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:28.359
<v Speaker 2>if you knew that this happened and somebody got killed.

1347
01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:32.439
<v Speaker 2>And I used the analogy. I always used it a pilot.

1348
01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:35.600
<v Speaker 2>We you know, we crashed a couple of airplanes, four airplanes.

1349
01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:38.039
<v Speaker 2>When I was active duty, the squadrons that I was in,

1350
01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:40.920
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people got killed and they were all

1351
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.840
<v Speaker 2>crew error. None of them were None of them was

1352
01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:46.079
<v Speaker 2>there in a malfunction with the airplane. They were all

1353
01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:50.640
<v Speaker 2>crew errors. And if somebody would have the one where

1354
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:56.279
<v Speaker 2>people survived, you know, like it was there was a

1355
01:16:56.359 --> 01:16:58.760
<v Speaker 2>hole in the runway, so when they landed, it sheared

1356
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:00.760
<v Speaker 2>off the landing gear. They no there was a hole

1357
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.279
<v Speaker 2>in the runway till they were rolling on the runway. Anyway,

1358
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:05.640
<v Speaker 2>long story short, if a pilot did something and got

1359
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:09.560
<v Speaker 2>somebody killed, OSI, which is the Air Force's version of

1360
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:12.239
<v Speaker 2>the FBI, would come and interview. They would drug test

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01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:14.720
<v Speaker 2>you and interview and I'm going to tell them what happened.

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01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:18.560
<v Speaker 2>If we told the pilot, dude, don't do this, this

1363
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:21.439
<v Speaker 2>is stupid. There are three words we use time out,

1364
01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:24.439
<v Speaker 2>knock it off, and this is stupid. These are like

1365
01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:27.760
<v Speaker 2>our duress words. And if somebody doesn't knock it off,

1366
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:31.560
<v Speaker 2>then I'm gonna dime that dude out because you just

1367
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:36.279
<v Speaker 2>either bent metal or you got somebody killed. And so

1368
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:39.359
<v Speaker 2>that's the point of this is when you stand up

1369
01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and say Okay, I'm going to tell the truth, and

1370
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:44.159
<v Speaker 2>the person who did this is going to take responsibility,

1371
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and the rest of us that did the right thing,

1372
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:48.600
<v Speaker 2>we gonna be all right.

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01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:48.960
<v Speaker 5>Baby.

1374
01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:52.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's another career out there for you. Policing

1375
01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:54.680
<v Speaker 2>is not the only thing that there is, believe it

1376
01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:56.880
<v Speaker 2>or not so anyway.

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01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:03.840
<v Speaker 5>But once again, some people can live with doing just

1378
01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:08.920
<v Speaker 5>about any job, you know. I mean, I was at

1379
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:12.279
<v Speaker 5>a job where I joked and I said, I will

1380
01:18:12.399 --> 01:18:16.079
<v Speaker 5>shovel shit before I ever come back here. And don't

1381
01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:19.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, I worked for a company here in Canton

1382
01:18:19.960 --> 01:18:22.199
<v Speaker 5>at two sides I worked on. I drove a dump

1383
01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:24.720
<v Speaker 5>truck for the guy, but he also had a septic side.

1384
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:28.279
<v Speaker 5>You know. He asked me one day if I would

1385
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:30.399
<v Speaker 5>drive the trailer because I had a Class A. He's like, hey,

1386
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:32.600
<v Speaker 5>can you drive the trailer down to the PLYMPT Prison.

1387
01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:34.560
<v Speaker 5>He goes, the other guy will meet you, He'll do

1388
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:36.239
<v Speaker 5>all the work. I go, No, I go, if I'm

1389
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:38.319
<v Speaker 5>going to drive down there, I'm gonna, you know, I'm

1390
01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:41.159
<v Speaker 5>gonna help the guy. And I remember just sitting there going,

1391
01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:43.520
<v Speaker 5>I can't believe it. Here, I'm troubling shit before I

1392
01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:46.840
<v Speaker 5>ever go back to another job. So it happens, but

1393
01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:50.680
<v Speaker 5>some people they don't. You know, I'll tell you the

1394
01:18:51.079 --> 01:18:54.359
<v Speaker 5>quality of life for some people is more important to

1395
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:57.720
<v Speaker 5>them than doing the right thing. Yep.

1396
01:18:57.840 --> 01:18:59.600
<v Speaker 2>And a woman going to jail for the rest of

1397
01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:03.840
<v Speaker 2>her life potentially, and an officer who was killed who

1398
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:08.439
<v Speaker 2>was taking care of two children. Yeah, okay, that doesn't

1399
01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask this to John on behalf of Mary Malarkey. Hi, DJ,

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01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:16.560
<v Speaker 2>can I ask John C About Blank's reply to the

1401
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:20.920
<v Speaker 2>defense question regarding his relationship with Brian Albert. His reply

1402
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:25.560
<v Speaker 2>was very telling in my humble opinion. Yeah, how's that? Tom?

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01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:34.720
<v Speaker 5>Is that right? In my opinion they weren't friends. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah,

1404
01:19:35.159 --> 01:19:42.880
<v Speaker 5>in my so, I graduated with Blank. After that, we

1405
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:48.159
<v Speaker 5>barely really had any kind of communications. I went to

1406
01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:53.039
<v Speaker 5>one of one of the one of our reunions. Well

1407
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:55.520
<v Speaker 5>that you see him, you say it was a hi

1408
01:19:55.760 --> 01:20:01.560
<v Speaker 5>that So once again, I really think the more I

1409
01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:04.159
<v Speaker 5>looked into it or not it looked into it, the

1410
01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:06.880
<v Speaker 5>more I recorded and played and played and went through

1411
01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:12.159
<v Speaker 5>everyone sings. I think Lane's telling the truth. I think

1412
01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:15.560
<v Speaker 5>he's very reserved in his answers. I think he was

1413
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:19.520
<v Speaker 5>very upset at the cross he didn't like the cross

1414
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:22.319
<v Speaker 5>and I don't and I definitely know he didn't like

1415
01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:26.279
<v Speaker 5>the fact the low bolato stuff being brought up on him,

1416
01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:33.199
<v Speaker 5>and that that's small town stuff. That's like literally people

1417
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:35.359
<v Speaker 5>you've known your whole life and there's a fight, but

1418
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:38.399
<v Speaker 5>one guy happened to be a cop, and and we

1419
01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:42.439
<v Speaker 5>know what came from that. I think he wanted nothing

1420
01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:44.520
<v Speaker 5>to do with that part of the trial. I think

1421
01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:47.880
<v Speaker 5>he wanted that to just you know, hey, it happened.

1422
01:20:48.279 --> 01:20:50.840
<v Speaker 5>I testified, there was an agreement, there was a pavement.

1423
01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:55.359
<v Speaker 5>We don't talk about that anymore. And for the fact

1424
01:20:55.399 --> 01:20:58.039
<v Speaker 5>that defense brought that up to use that to twist

1425
01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:01.960
<v Speaker 5>to make it look like that meant something that he

1426
01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:05.439
<v Speaker 5>was doing something for the Alberts, No, I don't think so.

1427
01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:07.760
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he was doing anything for the Alberts.

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01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:11.880
<v Speaker 2>We have to take your word for a bru man.

1429
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:14.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know these players better than any of us.

1430
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you grew up there. If you don't mind,

1431
01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:19.199
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say thank you to a very

1432
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:23.560
<v Speaker 2>generous Mary Malarkey giving another ten dollars to Cable. I

1433
01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:24.800
<v Speaker 2>grant the appreciate it.

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01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:29.479
<v Speaker 5>Right there where she said civil he goes we were civil.

1435
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:33.399
<v Speaker 5>That's that's how it is, right there. They had disagreements.

1436
01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:36.079
<v Speaker 5>I think I exactly what I said a couple of

1437
01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:40.039
<v Speaker 5>minutes ago. You know, I think I think their relationship

1438
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:44.319
<v Speaker 5>was one of two people in the same profession, one town,

1439
01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:48.760
<v Speaker 5>one city. You do your thing, I'll do my thing. Hey,

1440
01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:50.760
<v Speaker 5>I say, Hi, But they weren't friends.

1441
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I bruh, Man, you know we got we got to

1442
01:21:56.479 --> 01:22:01.000
<v Speaker 2>take your word for it, man. So you know, what's up, temmy.

1443
01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:02.680
<v Speaker 2>What do you got man? What kind of thoughts you

1444
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:03.560
<v Speaker 2>got in your mind?

1445
01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:10.640
<v Speaker 6>You know, Like Lank may have not liked Brian, but

1446
01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:12.319
<v Speaker 6>I think he knew who Brian was.

1447
01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:14.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, and and.

1448
01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:20.439
<v Speaker 6>You want to give an another person like professional courtesy.

1449
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:23.199
<v Speaker 6>He knew, he knew Brian was a cop, right, he

1450
01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:28.039
<v Speaker 6>knew Brian was best friends with his boss, right, So

1451
01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:30.760
<v Speaker 6>he knew he was kind of where he shouldn't be.

1452
01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:33.720
<v Speaker 6>I think, I think because if he wasn't hanging around

1453
01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:38.319
<v Speaker 6>with the chief Lank, then he wouldn't know the chiefs

1454
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:41.880
<v Speaker 6>and Brian's and Higgins, and I mean, he wouldn't know

1455
01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:44.720
<v Speaker 6>any of that because it's a small circle that they're

1456
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:46.520
<v Speaker 6>in and they try and keep it that way. And

1457
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:49.319
<v Speaker 6>they don't want anyone to know anything outside that circle,

1458
01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:51.439
<v Speaker 6>because that's what's make that circle nice and tight, is

1459
01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:53.920
<v Speaker 6>what they share with each other. There was three people,

1460
01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:57.079
<v Speaker 6>and I don't think Blank was part of those three.

1461
01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:02.159
<v Speaker 6>He was not invited into that circle that Berkowitz, Higgins

1462
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:04.800
<v Speaker 6>and Albert had like that. He wasn't part of that.

1463
01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:07.920
<v Speaker 6>So did he get put in a bad spot?

1464
01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:08.560
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

1465
01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:12.039
<v Speaker 6>Do I think they put him in that spot. I

1466
01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:14.079
<v Speaker 6>think they put him in the spot knowing he would

1467
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:15.800
<v Speaker 6>do what he did. I think he would walk in,

1468
01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:18.359
<v Speaker 6>Oh it's Brian Albert. Do I have to Yes, I

1469
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:21.039
<v Speaker 6>have to okay, walk in hi by and then bail

1470
01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:27.920
<v Speaker 6>And that's it. No question whether he thought something was

1471
01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:31.439
<v Speaker 6>amiss or whether he there wasn't. He was just getting

1472
01:23:31.479 --> 01:23:34.199
<v Speaker 6>in getting out and and he had to deal was

1473
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:37.960
<v Speaker 6>That's that's what you got to do when you're doing

1474
01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:40.079
<v Speaker 6>that type of job. You suck it up for those things.

1475
01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:42.079
<v Speaker 5>You know you're smarter than you look.

1476
01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:46.199
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was gonna say John is actually smarter

1477
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:46.760
<v Speaker 2>than I look.

1478
01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:51.439
<v Speaker 6>So if you think of those three people, right when

1479
01:23:52.520 --> 01:23:55.439
<v Speaker 6>when that went down, where did Higgins go for the

1480
01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:59.279
<v Speaker 6>hour and a half. He went, He drove to the

1481
01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:04.439
<v Speaker 6>chief Police's house. He's the one and and that's where

1482
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:10.520
<v Speaker 6>great that is he doesn't call. He knows. Higgins knows

1483
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:11.319
<v Speaker 6>something went down.

1484
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:14.399
<v Speaker 5>He can't say he went over the Pleasant Circle.

1485
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:19.439
<v Speaker 6>He drove to Rafferty's house.

1486
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:21.479
<v Speaker 2>Is Birkwood's on vacation.

1487
01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:24.079
<v Speaker 5>Norfolk?

1488
01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:27.920
<v Speaker 6>That's where he drove to Norfolk, from Canton to Norfolk.

1489
01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:30.760
<v Speaker 6>Knock on the door, wake him up. Hey, you're not

1490
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:32.840
<v Speaker 6>going to believe what happened. Blah blah blah blah. Now

1491
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:35.560
<v Speaker 6>the chief can get on his phone. Because the chiefs

1492
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:37.560
<v Speaker 6>don't know nothing, make the calls.

1493
01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:43.239
<v Speaker 5>Higgins, Ryan Higgins went back to the police station in

1494
01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:46.359
<v Speaker 5>the more. Are we talking about in the morning?

1495
01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:50.039
<v Speaker 6>Yes, that timeframe is is he didn't he he left

1496
01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:53.520
<v Speaker 6>thirty four right? I think he went with I think

1497
01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:57.119
<v Speaker 6>he went to the Chief of Police's house and then

1498
01:24:57.159 --> 01:24:58.199
<v Speaker 6>went back to the police station.

1499
01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:01.079
<v Speaker 5>Do you think he went to Helene A. Rafferty's house

1500
01:25:01.279 --> 01:25:04.520
<v Speaker 5>down in Norfolk and not to Burkey's house on Pleasant Circle?

1501
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:06.800
<v Speaker 5>Not Pleasant Circle, but down off a Pleasant.

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01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:11.319
<v Speaker 6>Street wherever wherever Burkey was either whether he was sleeping

1503
01:25:11.399 --> 01:25:15.319
<v Speaker 6>over in Norfolk or is that his house? I believe

1504
01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:18.199
<v Speaker 6>he went and went directly to Berkey's.

1505
01:25:17.800 --> 01:25:21.439
<v Speaker 5>House, which I did only about three minutes from failure.

1506
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:22.279
<v Speaker 6>Well, there you go.

1507
01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:28.119
<v Speaker 5>Four four minutes downtown down past Side, down Pleasant Street.

1508
01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:30.479
<v Speaker 6>If he left thirty four and right to the police station,

1509
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:33.159
<v Speaker 6>that's what seven minutes in the snow eight.

1510
01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:37.079
<v Speaker 5>Like all right, yeah, so but he would have been

1511
01:25:37.159 --> 01:25:38.680
<v Speaker 5>it would have been it would have been a little

1512
01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:41.159
<v Speaker 5>bit to the police station and then another five to

1513
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:43.600
<v Speaker 5>uh to the chief's house. Yep.

1514
01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:48.079
<v Speaker 6>So that's my thought there. All right, I'm gonna those

1515
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:49.119
<v Speaker 6>three were close people.

1516
01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:52.119
<v Speaker 5>You're talking about Burkee, not Helena. I was gonna say,

1517
01:25:52.159 --> 01:25:53.520
<v Speaker 5>there's no way he went to Norfolk.

1518
01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:58.119
<v Speaker 6>Those three were close, Brian, Brian, and they were really

1519
01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:00.279
<v Speaker 6>much and they and.

1520
01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:02.720
<v Speaker 5>Then they and then they called Tully and that's and

1521
01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:05.239
<v Speaker 5>that's how Tully. Tully took care of the side.

1522
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:08.560
<v Speaker 6>Well, they call Morrissey, called Taly one of the other

1523
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:10.920
<v Speaker 6>because they seem to have an open door to Morrissey.

1524
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:12.840
<v Speaker 6>He's the guy in chat.

1525
01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:15.279
<v Speaker 5>Well, when the chief of police calls you at six

1526
01:26:15.319 --> 01:26:17.680
<v Speaker 5>o'clock in the morning, answer it. You're gonna answer it.

1527
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:22.079
<v Speaker 2>You have to, Tommy. I want to give you a raise.

1528
01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:24.600
<v Speaker 2>And you're not even part of the show, you know,

1529
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:27.399
<v Speaker 2>And Tommy and maybe John as well, both you, guys.

1530
01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:31.079
<v Speaker 2>So this is Michelle Littlefield. This is the young lady.

1531
01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:37.039
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was the Stoughton Court. Michelle, I have

1532
01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>put for you, and I realized there could be legal implications.

1533
01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>So don't don't come on if that's something that would

1534
01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:47.319
<v Speaker 2>entangle you. But if if you can talk about it

1535
01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:51.199
<v Speaker 2>and there is no legal jeopardy and no advice you've

1536
01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:53.399
<v Speaker 2>been given from your attorney. I put the link in

1537
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>the chat. I've also put my email in there if

1538
01:26:56.560 --> 01:26:58.239
<v Speaker 2>you If you don't want to come on now, but

1539
01:26:58.359 --> 01:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>you would like to come on later, I would love

1540
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:03.039
<v Speaker 2>to speak with you. I know that this panel right

1541
01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:04.840
<v Speaker 2>here would love to speak with you. And thank you

1542
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>for the incredible courage. So this is what we're talking

1543
01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>about here, This is what we've been talking about, guys

1544
01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:15.760
<v Speaker 2>and gal. We've been talking about somebody who had the

1545
01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:19.319
<v Speaker 2>carriage to do the damn right thing at the moment

1546
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:24.920
<v Speaker 2>that you believe in do the right thing. Price that

1547
01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:28.560
<v Speaker 2>stop saying price, John, It's not you don't know. You

1548
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know that, you don't know that, you don't you

1549
01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:35.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know that, you don't know that. It's it's a

1550
01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>nice you can. You can be as cynical as you want.

1551
01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>You don't know that everybody has a price. You just

1552
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:43.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know that some people have a price. Some people

1553
01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:48.359
<v Speaker 2>have a price. So people and yeah, and so you

1554
01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>have some cowardice dudes who knows what happened here, who

1555
01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:56.199
<v Speaker 2>are aware that there's something happened that won't step up,

1556
01:27:56.279 --> 01:27:59.239
<v Speaker 2>and dudes at are retirement eligible that just don't want

1557
01:27:59.279 --> 01:28:01.039
<v Speaker 2>to be harassed because they want to keep that one

1558
01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>crib to have there that's in the area of the town.

1559
01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 2>And this young lady stepped up and did the damn thing.

1560
01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>So whether you want to come on now or later

1561
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:14.079
<v Speaker 2>you are or never, you are welcome to come on.

1562
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:17.199
<v Speaker 2>So and I put that I put that stream yard

1563
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:20.479
<v Speaker 2>in there. You just need to click that with either Yes,

1564
01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Stoughton Clerk's Office. You're a courageous woman and we're going

1565
01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:27.239
<v Speaker 2>to make another round of applause for you, girl friend,

1566
01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Miss Michelle Littlefield. So so anyway, that is in the chat.

1567
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:40.239
<v Speaker 2>If you have a cell phone and you want to

1568
01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:45.279
<v Speaker 2>hey clerk, Jim, how are you brother? Um, there's a

1569
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:47.359
<v Speaker 2>link right here. Let me put this thing up on

1570
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:50.159
<v Speaker 2>the screen. Show me where that where that link is

1571
01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:53.319
<v Speaker 2>if I it's way back there now. I thought i'd

1572
01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>put it in the chat. Did anybody see it?

1573
01:28:55.039 --> 01:28:55.359
<v Speaker 5>You did?

1574
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:56.119
<v Speaker 3>You did?

1575
01:28:56.720 --> 01:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Can you where am I?

1576
01:28:57.800 --> 01:28:58.199
<v Speaker 5>Where is it?

1577
01:28:58.840 --> 01:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

1578
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:00.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh? There?

1579
01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>It is right here? So this is right here. If

1580
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:06.000
<v Speaker 2>you have a laptop, you need a Google thank you,

1581
01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, John. John's my GPS right under dumb and uh.

1582
01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Or if you just have a cell phone you can

1583
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:18.319
<v Speaker 2>you can click that with any either in an Android

1584
01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:20.239
<v Speaker 2>or an Apple and you don't you know, it'll work

1585
01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:24.079
<v Speaker 2>off a Safari on your iOS device. So anyway, we

1586
01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:27.399
<v Speaker 2>would love just to thank you in person or email

1587
01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>me and let me thank you in person. And there

1588
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:32.760
<v Speaker 2>we go. Jason Smith with the grateful dead baby. I

1589
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:34.920
<v Speaker 2>got my new grateful dead belt. But none of y'all

1590
01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:39.319
<v Speaker 2>noticed it that were at the meal of food. So anyway,

1591
01:29:41.079 --> 01:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>what we got questions for John and Tom here? Oh yeah, okay,

1592
01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:52.239
<v Speaker 2>who wants to read this one? Yeah? Go ahead read

1593
01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:52.920
<v Speaker 2>this one? Tommy?

1594
01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:58.159
<v Speaker 6>Oh, DJ Can I ask John? If Nagel had been

1595
01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:00.640
<v Speaker 6>in a truck on his own, do you think he

1596
01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:04.119
<v Speaker 6>would have lied? Well, let's say he lied, but if

1597
01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:06.399
<v Speaker 6>what if? What if Nigel's in the truck by himself?

1598
01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:14.039
<v Speaker 5>The reason they put we'll go back to Nick Rocco

1599
01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:18.319
<v Speaker 5>was on another show last night. I caught it, and

1600
01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:23.760
<v Speaker 5>I when agree with him. The reason they say the

1601
01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:27.279
<v Speaker 5>jeep was at the mailbox, not they, I should say

1602
01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:31.800
<v Speaker 5>a couple people is to discredit the three people who

1603
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:34.840
<v Speaker 5>were in the truck pocked right behind Karen. To say

1604
01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:39.239
<v Speaker 5>they didn't see what they saw. That is awesome, but

1605
01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:43.560
<v Speaker 5>I also don't think so. The whole Nagel thing also

1606
01:30:43.680 --> 01:30:46.840
<v Speaker 5>gets me. The plan was there was going to be

1607
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:49.520
<v Speaker 5>a sleepover, right for.

1608
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:50.319
<v Speaker 6>A birthday party.

1609
01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:54.520
<v Speaker 5>They're all gonna get a party sleepover. Yep. She got

1610
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:58.000
<v Speaker 5>there at seven o'clock. Her father took her there. Okay,

1611
01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:04.399
<v Speaker 5>but if you listen to Nagel's testimony, I wait, and

1612
01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:06.319
<v Speaker 5>I could get this wrong. It could have been Richie

1613
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:09.399
<v Speaker 5>don TONI No, it was Nagel. Nagel said that they

1614
01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:12.760
<v Speaker 5>went to Cemp McCarthy's early in the evening to see

1615
01:31:12.800 --> 01:31:17.159
<v Speaker 5>my sister, right, and then they went up to the water. No,

1616
01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:21.079
<v Speaker 5>then they went up to the hillside. But the sister

1617
01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:24.479
<v Speaker 5>and Sarah Livinson were at the house at seven o'clock

1618
01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:28.079
<v Speaker 5>because there was gonna be a sleepover. She calls her

1619
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:30.760
<v Speaker 5>brother to come because they live at home right with

1620
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:33.399
<v Speaker 5>their parents. She calls her brother to come get her.

1621
01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:37.880
<v Speaker 5>There was never a discussion before he got there of no,

1622
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:41.199
<v Speaker 5>forget it, and it's only a five minute drive from

1623
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:45.279
<v Speaker 5>the hillside thirty fourth faar of you. Why would she

1624
01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:47.000
<v Speaker 5>wait for him to get all the way to the

1625
01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:50.640
<v Speaker 5>house before walking out to say, you know what, I'm

1626
01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:53.319
<v Speaker 5>gonna stay, which she was staying all along to begin with.

1627
01:31:54.439 --> 01:31:56.640
<v Speaker 5>Why wouldn't she have texted him and said, hey, you

1628
01:31:56.720 --> 01:32:00.960
<v Speaker 5>know what, don't come unless he wasn't coming to pick

1629
01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:03.960
<v Speaker 5>her up, he was coming to drop something off. That's

1630
01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:06.199
<v Speaker 5>just a question. I'm just I'm asking this. I'm not

1631
01:32:06.359 --> 01:32:10.359
<v Speaker 5>saying he did. I'm just it's just just throwing it

1632
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:13.239
<v Speaker 5>out there that there could be more to why he

1633
01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:13.800
<v Speaker 5>was there.

1634
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I would say that both of her, I mean all

1635
01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:21.239
<v Speaker 2>three of you. Actually, your grasp of all the details

1636
01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:24.159
<v Speaker 2>and machinations in the case are awesome. So I actually

1637
01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:27.319
<v Speaker 2>want to just like right now for for Tom John

1638
01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:29.720
<v Speaker 2>nbia Ken halfway.

1639
01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:33.600
<v Speaker 5>No, I don't think Brian Elbert Junior is more involved.

1640
01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:36.960
<v Speaker 5>I think he's innocent on all of this, other than

1641
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:42.079
<v Speaker 5>the fact that his family is telling him hearing him

1642
01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:50.239
<v Speaker 5>DJ here's the problem. I'm not When you watch hours

1643
01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:53.319
<v Speaker 5>after hours and you and you and you're recording and

1644
01:32:53.399 --> 01:32:55.560
<v Speaker 5>then you edit it and you're watching it as you're

1645
01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:58.439
<v Speaker 5>editing it, and like, and it's down to the second

1646
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:03.000
<v Speaker 5>you're going back, That's what's going through my head, is like, Yes,

1647
01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:06.199
<v Speaker 5>I don't know the case as well as other people,

1648
01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:09.479
<v Speaker 5>but I have probably about ninety percent of it in

1649
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:13.279
<v Speaker 5>my head from the trial, not the grand jury stuff,

1650
01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:16.600
<v Speaker 5>not the stuff that's on paper, because I only focused

1651
01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:19.800
<v Speaker 5>on what was in the trial, what was shown as evidence.

1652
01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, next time out there, I'm gonna buy you eggs, Benedict,

1653
01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:27.239
<v Speaker 2>instead of you buying it for me as a result

1654
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:29.399
<v Speaker 2>of your performance tonight. So let me just say that

1655
01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to read this one in a Southern accent,

1656
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:34.439
<v Speaker 2>since I know you guys just miss people from South.

1657
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:39.479
<v Speaker 2>What's an inside secret you haven't shared? Johnn't hell are

1658
01:33:39.520 --> 01:33:41.840
<v Speaker 2>we missing in regards to this case?

1659
01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:42.960
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

1660
01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:45.479
<v Speaker 6>What have I shit?

1661
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:45.960
<v Speaker 7>Uh?

1662
01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:54.000
<v Speaker 5>All right, I'll be very delicate. I had been privy

1663
01:33:54.199 --> 01:34:02.680
<v Speaker 5>to some information for quite some time that all was

1664
01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:03.880
<v Speaker 5>true in the case.

1665
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:10.319
<v Speaker 2>Said that again, not to give it away.

1666
01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:13.399
<v Speaker 5>I was privy to some information that came out in

1667
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:18.439
<v Speaker 5>the case. Well ahead and I just kept my mouth

1668
01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:20.920
<v Speaker 5>shot and when it happened, I'm like, there it is.

1669
01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dig that. And now Beatrice is going to ask

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01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:28.079
<v Speaker 2>tom to share the same secret so that I don't

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01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:28.560
<v Speaker 2>have to do it.

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01:34:29.479 --> 01:34:33.920
<v Speaker 3>All right, Tommy tell us a secret.

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01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:40.960
<v Speaker 6>So early early in the trial, I'm sorry, early in

1674
01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:44.720
<v Speaker 6>the whole camera read movement. Before the trial started. I

1675
01:34:44.840 --> 01:34:49.600
<v Speaker 6>made a post on Facebook and it was pretty unpointed,

1676
01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:56.880
<v Speaker 6>it was pretty accusatory, and I I got a phone

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01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:03.119
<v Speaker 6>call that tell tell me all these different things about

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01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:07.600
<v Speaker 6>I can't say who it is, but it's one of

1679
01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:10.680
<v Speaker 6>it's one of the people who we've mentioned already. It's

1680
01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:14.520
<v Speaker 6>a very important player. And that person at seven thirty

1681
01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:19.079
<v Speaker 6>am told this person at seven thirty am that John

1682
01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:25.960
<v Speaker 6>was dead and that they murdered John. That's what was

1683
01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:29.439
<v Speaker 6>told to me at seven thirty am. Who knows John's

1684
01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:32.239
<v Speaker 6>passed away at seven thirty in the morning. He didn't

1685
01:35:32.279 --> 01:35:35.800
<v Speaker 6>get called called until ten. They had to bring his

1686
01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:41.720
<v Speaker 6>court temperature up to eighty before they can pronounce. So, yeah,

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01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:44.880
<v Speaker 6>this is this is way back. I've known that, and

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01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:47.479
<v Speaker 6>and it's yeah.

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01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>And Suzanne Cleveland, our great friend, Well I usually do that.

1690
01:35:55.319 --> 01:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Lebron James Lujah Lebron James quote Cleveland, this is for

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01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:06.479
<v Speaker 2>you when he won the twenty sixteen Yes, and and

1692
01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:10.399
<v Speaker 2>and this one is even better. This one for bea.

1693
01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:16.279
<v Speaker 3>Serious for anyone. Who the f has adults sleepovers?

1694
01:36:16.399 --> 01:36:20.520
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, No, that's not what it says. Read it. You

1695
01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:23.600
<v Speaker 5>don't say who the f? If it's TF, you gotta

1696
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:25.479
<v Speaker 5>say you can't say one word, not both.

1697
01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, she can because she wants to make sure we

1698
01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:30.560
<v Speaker 2>don't get too much.

1699
01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:33.039
<v Speaker 5>It says TF. And she only picked me.

1700
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, boy, whoa.

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01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:44.479
<v Speaker 5>I have told a couple of people, obviously the whole

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01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:49.399
<v Speaker 5>Dixie I do. And I say the screenshot because I

1703
01:36:49.439 --> 01:36:52.960
<v Speaker 5>thought it was hilarious. I have a chat exchange between

1704
01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:57.239
<v Speaker 5>me and the current chief where she was asking me

1705
01:36:57.960 --> 01:36:59.880
<v Speaker 5>if I was Dixie Normus and I said, you know,

1706
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:00.560
<v Speaker 5>I am.

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01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Personally just set it up, but I mean she was like,

1708
01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:09.039
<v Speaker 2>are you go?

1709
01:37:09.199 --> 01:37:12.600
<v Speaker 5>You know? I am like you like because I'm like,

1710
01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:16.359
<v Speaker 5>I don't have fake profiles. I don't. I mean, just

1711
01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:19.920
<v Speaker 5>it was I set it up on purpose as a joke,

1712
01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:25.199
<v Speaker 5>not to hide from right. But oh it's probably my

1713
01:37:25.319 --> 01:37:27.640
<v Speaker 5>highlight of twenty four you.

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01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Know if you know you know, yeah, Well, actually one

1715
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:33.399
<v Speaker 2>of you guys said one I thought we could make

1716
01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:35.479
<v Speaker 2>a new sticker. Tom said, if you don't know, you

1717
01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:37.479
<v Speaker 2>don't know. So I don't know what the letters that

1718
01:37:37.560 --> 01:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>would be.

1719
01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:41.960
<v Speaker 12>But make a new sticker you don't know, you don't know,

1720
01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:45.720
<v Speaker 12>and throw that in front of Chris Albert's joint with

1721
01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:48.159
<v Speaker 12>the apparently the subpart Chick and Parmesan.

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01:37:49.640 --> 01:37:51.560
<v Speaker 2>All right, I think we have one more video to

1723
01:37:51.680 --> 01:37:53.840
<v Speaker 2>show from John and then we can close this thing down.

1724
01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Get some commentary on this.

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01:37:56.520 --> 01:38:02.479
<v Speaker 6>John video time you put in his dynam Thank you. Yeah,

1726
01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:04.359
<v Speaker 6>he's a lot of time into this and it's a

1727
01:38:04.439 --> 01:38:06.800
<v Speaker 6>lot of work. So thank you John for doing this.

1728
01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:08.039
<v Speaker 6>I know what it takes. It's a lot.

1729
01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh John, you dope man.

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01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:16.119
<v Speaker 13>Here we go and vehicle placements at thirty four Fairview

1731
01:38:16.680 --> 01:38:23.399
<v Speaker 13>raises significant inconsistencies between testimony and photographic evidence. The details

1732
01:38:23.439 --> 01:38:26.960
<v Speaker 13>provided by Brian Albert regarding the vehicles in the driveway

1733
01:38:27.039 --> 01:38:31.159
<v Speaker 13>and garage conflict with the accounts of other witnesses and

1734
01:38:31.279 --> 01:38:35.439
<v Speaker 13>the photographic evidence from the morning in question, he stated

1735
01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:39.000
<v Speaker 13>he drove the Boston Police Department Ford Edge and parked

1736
01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:41.439
<v Speaker 13>it on the left side of the driveway. Upon returning

1737
01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:44.359
<v Speaker 13>home that no vehicles were.

1738
01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:49.520
<v Speaker 5>In Jay He stated he drove the Boston Police vehicle

1739
01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:56.479
<v Speaker 5>Ford Edge right after being at the hillside in the

1740
01:38:56.600 --> 01:39:03.279
<v Speaker 5>waterfall drinking. Yeah, and yet nothing came up from there was.

1741
01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Never drunk driving is not illegal, I guess if you're

1742
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:11.600
<v Speaker 2>if you're a police officer, it's totally authorized. Only if

1743
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:12.279
<v Speaker 2>you're civilian.

1744
01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:16.439
<v Speaker 5>That picture up, we know that's Matt McCabe. We know

1745
01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:20.880
<v Speaker 5>that's McCabe's vehicle on the right. Is that a ford

1746
01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:22.359
<v Speaker 5>Edge on the left side.

1747
01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:24.439
<v Speaker 2>It looks like it.

1748
01:39:26.199 --> 01:39:26.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it looks like it.

1749
01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:29.560
<v Speaker 5>So that means the car in front of it has

1750
01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:35.199
<v Speaker 5>to be the Caddy. Yeah, right, because if you drove

1751
01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:41.960
<v Speaker 5>the ford Edge back from the from the waterfall behind it,

1752
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:44.600
<v Speaker 5>meaning that car has not moved right.

1753
01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:48.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, what's that look at the driveways?

1754
01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:53.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that means that's the that's the police department Ford Edge.

1755
01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:57.800
<v Speaker 5>Her Caddy has to be in front of it. And

1756
01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:02.920
<v Speaker 5>that means two vehicles are missing, the Ford Explorer and

1757
01:40:04.039 --> 01:40:11.239
<v Speaker 5>the Ford Edge. One could have had it at school,

1758
01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:15.800
<v Speaker 5>but either way, one or two vehicles are missing from

1759
01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:18.880
<v Speaker 5>that driveway that would have been there the night before.

1760
01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:24.159
<v Speaker 5>When was this photo taken seven am by Gallagher? Oh.

1761
01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:27.399
<v Speaker 2>In the morning of when John was already taken to

1762
01:40:27.479 --> 01:40:28.439
<v Speaker 2>the hospital.

1763
01:40:28.359 --> 01:40:31.960
<v Speaker 5>Gallagher sent Good to go get a leaf blower. He

1764
01:40:32.119 --> 01:40:34.840
<v Speaker 5>took pictures from both sides of the driveway. He took

1765
01:40:34.920 --> 01:40:37.199
<v Speaker 5>this picture and he took a picture from the other

1766
01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:41.039
<v Speaker 5>side so that you see the two cars with the

1767
01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:47.680
<v Speaker 5>McCabe's car behind it. So there is a vehicle missing,

1768
01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:53.119
<v Speaker 5>but it's there at eight thirty when Jen comes to

1769
01:40:53.199 --> 01:41:03.159
<v Speaker 5>put donuts in it. That's so, just like Sean had

1770
01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:06.000
<v Speaker 5>his tail light thing, this was this is my thing.

1771
01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:10.039
<v Speaker 5>The vehicles in the driveway don't line up with anybody's testimony.

1772
01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:15.920
<v Speaker 5>How about this if her caddy, if her caddy which

1773
01:41:15.960 --> 01:41:19.239
<v Speaker 5>is in front of his car, never moved because she

1774
01:41:19.319 --> 01:41:22.600
<v Speaker 5>got a ride with Juliet. Yes, there's Cherry d There's

1775
01:41:22.600 --> 01:41:26.199
<v Speaker 5>two cars on the left. There's another picture when we

1776
01:41:26.319 --> 01:41:29.159
<v Speaker 5>hit play. There's another picture that will show a different

1777
01:41:29.199 --> 01:41:33.000
<v Speaker 5>angle of this. But mind you, there's a there's a

1778
01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:35.119
<v Speaker 5>car in front of this Fort Edge. If we're saying

1779
01:41:35.159 --> 01:41:39.920
<v Speaker 5>this is the Boston Police Fort Edge. So Brian Higgins

1780
01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:45.279
<v Speaker 5>says he made a pass in the driveway. They had

1781
01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:47.960
<v Speaker 5>a wait for him to make the silly pass. Well,

1782
01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:49.800
<v Speaker 5>there's already a car at the driveway.

1783
01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:54.680
<v Speaker 2>So he couldn't have made a pass, or he didn't

1784
01:41:54.680 --> 01:41:55.439
<v Speaker 2>make a pass.

1785
01:41:55.199 --> 01:41:57.119
<v Speaker 5>Because the caddies already in the driveway.

1786
01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he could have. I mean there there

1787
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>is the driveway appears to be three cars wide. He

1788
01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:09.800
<v Speaker 2>could have only gotten one, you know, or one one

1789
01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:10.640
<v Speaker 2>lanes worth of.

1790
01:42:11.119 --> 01:42:13.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but he would have had to do with this side.

1791
01:42:13.079 --> 01:42:15.479
<v Speaker 5>He would have to do the right side or the

1792
01:42:15.920 --> 01:42:18.840
<v Speaker 5>way over off to the right where it opens up.

1793
01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:22.720
<v Speaker 6>On the other side. Yeah, if he couldn't have done

1794
01:42:22.720 --> 01:42:24.079
<v Speaker 6>it right.

1795
01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Another thing, Higgins's jack off. I love it.

1796
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:31.680
<v Speaker 5>You look at that.

1797
01:42:31.840 --> 01:42:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so if you look at where that truck pulls in,

1798
01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:40.000
<v Speaker 3>look at the that truck created those lines, the lines behind.

1799
01:42:40.760 --> 01:42:44.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it looks like someone was there before the s

1800
01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:46.239
<v Speaker 6>u V one the left of it, to the right

1801
01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:49.159
<v Speaker 6>hand side, the right hand someone out of the driveway.

1802
01:42:49.239 --> 01:42:50.159
<v Speaker 6>The snows packed down.

1803
01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:55.960
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, that around, No, that could be the tracking of

1804
01:42:56.039 --> 01:43:00.239
<v Speaker 14>the front tie is the front tie is, ye, got

1805
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:03.880
<v Speaker 14>the outer and then the inner of the back right.

1806
01:43:04.199 --> 01:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>So so so what what Sherry de is saying is

1807
01:43:06.880 --> 01:43:12.239
<v Speaker 2>there wouldn't have been any snow at twelve forty whatever.

1808
01:43:12.760 --> 01:43:15.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he would have just dragged. You have video from

1809
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:21.079
<v Speaker 5>both the library and the synagogue the temple. You have

1810
01:43:21.239 --> 01:43:25.239
<v Speaker 5>video from the library and the temple that showed about

1811
01:43:25.399 --> 01:43:28.359
<v Speaker 5>two minutes before no snow on the ground.

1812
01:43:30.399 --> 01:43:34.159
<v Speaker 2>There you go. So that that that settles that. And

1813
01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:36.680
<v Speaker 2>bells is.

1814
01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:40.760
<v Speaker 5>A ruse whatever you call it, that is a.

1815
01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's continue with this and then then

1816
01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Ken has another question for John Como, which means I

1817
01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:53.199
<v Speaker 2>need to think of a different accent.

1818
01:43:54.479 --> 01:43:55.199
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So.

1819
01:43:57.680 --> 01:43:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Come on, baby, hearing you?

1820
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:00.479
<v Speaker 5>Why is.

1821
01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:09.279
<v Speaker 6>But they like Jen, Jen wasn't involved?

1822
01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:10.279
<v Speaker 5>Right? Why is?

1823
01:44:10.479 --> 01:44:11.239
<v Speaker 6>Why are they there?

1824
01:44:12.079 --> 01:44:14.880
<v Speaker 5>Why did you like up at seven o'clock? This is

1825
01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:19.520
<v Speaker 5>so this is about seven fifteen, Uh, well, between seven

1826
01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:25.600
<v Speaker 5>so I found dash cam footage. There was a picture

1827
01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:29.079
<v Speaker 5>around seven where this car wasn't where McCabe's car wasn't there,

1828
01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:32.119
<v Speaker 5>and around seven third it's between seven and seven thirteen

1829
01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:33.600
<v Speaker 5>that that car arrives.

1830
01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:37.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say something, John, there's something reason this thing

1831
01:44:37.159 --> 01:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't like when you pause, So I'm gonna try to start.

1832
01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:43.640
<v Speaker 2>We have to play through, okay, because it I try

1833
01:44:43.680 --> 01:44:44.359
<v Speaker 2>to restart and.

1834
01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:50.359
<v Speaker 5>I'll have a beverage what we watch, God bless this

1835
01:44:50.520 --> 01:44:52.359
<v Speaker 5>is stat a little narrow game.

1836
01:44:52.439 --> 01:45:00.199
<v Speaker 2>Come on, damn it. Okay, let's go. Oh man, it's

1837
01:45:00.239 --> 01:45:04.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna off. It's not Operator Eric, come on that it

1838
01:45:04.119 --> 01:45:10.840
<v Speaker 2>hit play. Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not working.

1839
01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:14.520
<v Speaker 5>You get back to your people with your people because you.

1840
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Know, all right, sorry guys. John's editorialization here is what

1841
01:45:23.399 --> 01:45:27.079
<v Speaker 2>is what got us? All right, here's the question. Uh,

1842
01:45:28.159 --> 01:45:29.960
<v Speaker 2>let's see what accent should we use here?

1843
01:45:34.119 --> 01:45:34.279
<v Speaker 5>Jed.

1844
01:45:34.399 --> 01:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>It was a great question on the Shan Show. Could

1845
01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>John's a shoe be tested for the dog ahead if

1846
01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:49.600
<v Speaker 2>had was on his the shoe? The answer to that

1847
01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely yes. Uh. But the problem, you know what

1848
01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the biggest problem here is ken is when the investigators

1849
01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:01.479
<v Speaker 2>I think en route might have a sign that says

1850
01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:06.600
<v Speaker 2>they can't investigate themselves. And so when you're the state

1851
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:10.600
<v Speaker 2>agency and you're not looking to investigate or discover anything,

1852
01:46:11.119 --> 01:46:14.720
<v Speaker 2>well that this is therein lies the problem because you

1853
01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:17.159
<v Speaker 2>can't expect the FBI. You know, I don't know that

1854
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:19.600
<v Speaker 2>they have access to all these people. I don't know

1855
01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:21.520
<v Speaker 2>what they're allowed to do, what they're not allowed to

1856
01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:25.439
<v Speaker 2>do in this case, what what jurisdictionally what they can't do.

1857
01:46:25.880 --> 01:46:28.199
<v Speaker 2>But obviously they're not gonna want to test anything. They

1858
01:46:28.239 --> 01:46:31.039
<v Speaker 2>don't want ring camera video, and when there is video,

1859
01:46:31.319 --> 01:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>they want to delete portions that would exculpate Karen. So

1860
01:46:35.279 --> 01:46:38.199
<v Speaker 2>that's the problem is not that you know, Karen may

1861
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:42.520
<v Speaker 2>even have that. Karen may even have that that carpet, right,

1862
01:46:42.920 --> 01:46:46.359
<v Speaker 2>but without being able to get a forensic test to

1863
01:46:46.439 --> 01:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>that to put her in more debt. The police aren't

1864
01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:52.800
<v Speaker 2>interested if she has John's DNA's on the carpet from

1865
01:46:53.239 --> 01:46:56.640
<v Speaker 2>from the Mcalbert's house. So who's going to investigate it?

1866
01:46:56.720 --> 01:46:58.880
<v Speaker 2>That's the problem. This is why I want people to

1867
01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:03.239
<v Speaker 2>email job Sha Levy or whomever his successor is about

1868
01:47:03.279 --> 01:47:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to be. Certainly the office itself, uh, the the PA

1869
01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:10.640
<v Speaker 2>office there who I meealed? So let's see.

1870
01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:15.479
<v Speaker 5>The one thing, just as an observer, you know, somebody

1871
01:47:16.319 --> 01:47:19.159
<v Speaker 5>just I'm not invested in this case, but somebody that's

1872
01:47:19.560 --> 01:47:22.920
<v Speaker 5>watched all this. The one thing I'd love to know

1873
01:47:23.239 --> 01:47:29.039
<v Speaker 5>is who got rid of all the ring footage from robbery?

1874
01:47:29.960 --> 01:47:34.399
<v Speaker 5>Oh and how was it done? I don't care on

1875
01:47:34.560 --> 01:47:37.640
<v Speaker 5>which side, I don't care who did it, you know,

1876
01:47:37.800 --> 01:47:40.479
<v Speaker 5>I want to know who did it and how was

1877
01:47:40.520 --> 01:47:40.880
<v Speaker 5>it done.

1878
01:47:44.239 --> 01:47:46.399
<v Speaker 6>John was a big dude with with the ring app

1879
01:47:46.479 --> 01:47:48.680
<v Speaker 6>on his phone, he was, that was his, that was his,

1880
01:47:49.239 --> 01:47:52.600
<v Speaker 6>that was what's his hobby, we'll say. He had also

1881
01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:56.319
<v Speaker 6>the ring footage and he was talking to his contact

1882
01:47:56.399 --> 01:47:59.840
<v Speaker 6>at the Canton Police Department about what that ring footage was.

1883
01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:03.199
<v Speaker 6>He was sending it to Kevin Albert at the police department.

1884
01:48:03.359 --> 01:48:06.560
<v Speaker 5>Was at the police department all day long until Procter

1885
01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:09.640
<v Speaker 5>and Yuri showed up around six thirty to pick it

1886
01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:13.239
<v Speaker 5>up to bring it back to Norfolk County District Attorney's office.

1887
01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:17.840
<v Speaker 6>And if John had something that was very telling in

1888
01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:20.920
<v Speaker 6>his phone and he wouldn't give it up, and he

1889
01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:24.039
<v Speaker 6>went to thirty four and they took his phone and

1890
01:48:24.119 --> 01:48:28.520
<v Speaker 6>deleted the footage off of it. I mean a lot

1891
01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:31.640
<v Speaker 6>of deleting goes on in that one little area of Canton.

1892
01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:37.840
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what happens over them. Galaxy Samsung twenty

1893
01:48:38.479 --> 01:48:39.640
<v Speaker 6>four plus.

1894
01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:42.760
<v Speaker 2>That's the newest thing there is, man, probably twenty three.

1895
01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:44.039
<v Speaker 5>It's not it's totally not.

1896
01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:45.920
<v Speaker 6>Twenty five's out?

1897
01:48:47.079 --> 01:48:47.399
<v Speaker 5>You know that.

1898
01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh you guys behind Man, you guys are so yesterday. Man,

1899
01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:56.720
<v Speaker 2>So I'm skidding. I got a iPhone fourteen, I'm like

1900
01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:03.239
<v Speaker 2>two behind, so on sixteen, I'm on sixteen. Brow be

1901
01:49:03.479 --> 01:49:04.640
<v Speaker 2>wanting to face me up.

1902
01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:08.640
<v Speaker 5>Man kind of stuck in my snuck in my little

1903
01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:09.399
<v Speaker 5>screen recorder.

1904
01:49:10.079 --> 01:49:16.560
<v Speaker 6>I look at that the information that was on John's phone, right,

1905
01:49:16.800 --> 01:49:20.319
<v Speaker 6>like all of a sudden, it's gone, Right, what did

1906
01:49:20.359 --> 01:49:22.520
<v Speaker 6>he send a kit? In police department? They have a

1907
01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:25.359
<v Speaker 6>copy on their end, but John on his phone is

1908
01:49:25.439 --> 01:49:29.000
<v Speaker 6>nothing there. It's gone. Yeah, it was deleted it so yeah,

1909
01:49:29.319 --> 01:49:31.920
<v Speaker 6>the only way he deleted is through the app.

1910
01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Those guys worked very hard. That's what's so so

1911
01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:43.319
<v Speaker 2>disgusting about what they did. H Yeah, hello, Mandel, what

1912
01:49:43.399 --> 01:49:48.800
<v Speaker 2>does this say? Manda called clay Man, called clay Man,

1913
01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:49.640
<v Speaker 2>called clay.

1914
01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:54.119
<v Speaker 5>Clay Let me give you one more tip. It about

1915
01:49:54.279 --> 01:49:59.039
<v Speaker 5>the Keller Hers. Both Tommy and his father. We're huge,

1916
01:50:00.439 --> 01:50:07.359
<v Speaker 5>uh into firearms. Father had a firearms class. Tommy was

1917
01:50:07.399 --> 01:50:11.840
<v Speaker 5>the firearms instructor. You mean to tell me that probably

1918
01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:14.279
<v Speaker 5>with the amount of guns that they had, his father

1919
01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:18.159
<v Speaker 5>was a collector. I'm sure he has that. He didn't

1920
01:50:18.239 --> 01:50:25.840
<v Speaker 5>have surveillance all around that house. I'm sure the question doesn't.

1921
01:50:25.840 --> 01:50:33.199
<v Speaker 6>I have a question who recovered the keys to John's

1922
01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:36.079
<v Speaker 6>gun safe because there were kids in the house, which

1923
01:50:36.159 --> 01:50:38.800
<v Speaker 6>means that the gun had to be kept in a safe.

1924
01:50:40.279 --> 01:50:40.880
<v Speaker 5>Unless it was on.

1925
01:50:42.319 --> 01:50:44.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't think he'd drink when you know, he wouldn't

1926
01:50:44.079 --> 01:50:45.079
<v Speaker 6>bring a gun when he drinks.

1927
01:50:45.399 --> 01:50:47.880
<v Speaker 5>Really, I know someone that left that that was told

1928
01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:48.960
<v Speaker 5>to leave it in a mailbox.

1929
01:50:49.359 --> 01:50:51.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that that's Canton.

1930
01:50:51.760 --> 01:51:00.720
<v Speaker 7>Okay, but you're right where where did has girted his

1931
01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:02.039
<v Speaker 7>wallet gone badge?

1932
01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:07.880
<v Speaker 5>And who picked up all that stuff? I'm sure he

1933
01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:08.640
<v Speaker 5>had his badge on.

1934
01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:13.560
<v Speaker 6>Him, yes, at all times, yes, but it was never

1935
01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:15.880
<v Speaker 6>logged in the inventory to see it anywhere on the sheet.

1936
01:51:18.720 --> 01:51:21.079
<v Speaker 2>You guys are amazing, man, Bia, What do you got, man?

1937
01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:23.159
<v Speaker 2>What do you got for these two guys before we

1938
01:51:23.199 --> 01:51:23.720
<v Speaker 2>get out of here?

1939
01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Nothing? I mean, thank you for coming on and you know,

1940
01:51:28.439 --> 01:51:31.840
<v Speaker 3>just freely just talking about what you know, the nonsense,

1941
01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:33.640
<v Speaker 3>and you know we really appreciate it.

1942
01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:37.239
<v Speaker 5>It was always I mean, Tom wasn't here the whole time.

1943
01:51:37.520 --> 01:51:38.199
<v Speaker 5>Just want to let you know.

1944
01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:41.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know, I'll stay late after the show though,

1945
01:51:41.520 --> 01:51:44.039
<v Speaker 6>I promise I'll put the time in after.

1946
01:51:46.760 --> 01:51:50.199
<v Speaker 2>You guys killed it. Man, you guys absolutely killed it.

1947
01:51:52.680 --> 01:51:57.079
<v Speaker 2>As we as we go. Before we go, Tom, have

1948
01:51:57.239 --> 01:51:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you been up to any of the French Canadian provinces?

1949
01:52:00.159 --> 01:52:00.199
<v Speaker 6>Is?

1950
01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:04.439
<v Speaker 2>Do you have family up there? Scotia Nova Scotia.

1951
01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:07.119
<v Speaker 6>Okay, Halifax.

1952
01:52:07.439 --> 01:52:09.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh you go to Halifax's the city?

1953
01:52:09.319 --> 01:52:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, that pretty awesome man.

1954
01:52:13.039 --> 01:52:17.279
<v Speaker 5>The restaurant on the western side. Yeah. All, my my

1955
01:52:17.439 --> 01:52:20.119
<v Speaker 5>family's all in like the between Digby and Yama.

1956
01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:20.840
<v Speaker 6>Okay.

1957
01:52:21.439 --> 01:52:21.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1958
01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I've had the blessing because the Air Force when we

1959
01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:29.039
<v Speaker 2>would fly overseas, particularly the kind of aircraft that flew,

1960
01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:32.079
<v Speaker 2>you can't make it all the way from State X

1961
01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:34.880
<v Speaker 2>all the way up past Canada. So you stop and

1962
01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:38.560
<v Speaker 2>you'll refuel in Nova Scotia, and a lot of times

1963
01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:40.600
<v Speaker 2>you'll stay the night and then you'll take off over there.

1964
01:52:40.640 --> 01:52:45.239
<v Speaker 2>You'll go past Greenland, Iceland, Ireland and then down into

1965
01:52:45.359 --> 01:52:48.119
<v Speaker 2>like the United Kingdom and France, Germany wherever you're going

1966
01:52:48.159 --> 01:52:48.479
<v Speaker 2>from there.

1967
01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:50.439
<v Speaker 5>Stop off Halifax.

1968
01:52:51.359 --> 01:52:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I'm trying to. Saint John's Bay was one

1969
01:52:55.640 --> 01:53:00.600
<v Speaker 2>of the places. And there's another place that in Newfoundland

1970
01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:01.720
<v Speaker 2>that the name of it.

1971
01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:05.079
<v Speaker 5>Is that's on my list. That's on my list to

1972
01:53:05.159 --> 01:53:06.720
<v Speaker 5>go to Newfoundland. Yeah.

1973
01:53:07.239 --> 01:53:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those are places we would stop and they treated

1974
01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:13.239
<v Speaker 2>us like gold. And when we went downtown, we felt great,

1975
01:53:13.319 --> 01:53:15.560
<v Speaker 2>we felt at home, and I just got a sense

1976
01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:18.800
<v Speaker 2>of how awesome Canada is. So one love to your

1977
01:53:19.039 --> 01:53:21.720
<v Speaker 2>heritage up there in French Canada.

1978
01:53:21.680 --> 01:53:26.359
<v Speaker 5>Hockey players and horse that's it. That's what comes from Canada. Hey,

1979
01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:28.760
<v Speaker 5>my mother was from Canada. Oh yeah, what team she

1980
01:53:28.840 --> 01:53:29.159
<v Speaker 5>played for?

1981
01:53:32.520 --> 01:53:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you guys killed it. Man, We definitely

1982
01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:38.359
<v Speaker 2>got our money's worth. I definitely want to have both

1983
01:53:38.439 --> 01:53:41.439
<v Speaker 2>of you back on calling all beings. I know that

1984
01:53:41.560 --> 01:53:45.159
<v Speaker 2>you've delighted all of everybody here in the chat.

1985
01:53:45.239 --> 01:53:49.520
<v Speaker 5>That's saying I got another one. Sorry, don't leave ahead,

1986
01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:53.159
<v Speaker 5>where have a gm is? Wait? No one finds it weird?

1987
01:53:53.239 --> 01:54:00.680
<v Speaker 5>Helena text with me. Let me clear that up. This

1988
01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:06.880
<v Speaker 5>all goes with the Halloween parade. I was gonna watch,

1989
01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:09.520
<v Speaker 5>and that I did. I watched in the Halloween parade

1990
01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:13.159
<v Speaker 5>there with five of the ducks. I had six ducks. Okay,

1991
01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:20.239
<v Speaker 5>Helena called me. She didn't asked me not to. She

1992
01:54:20.399 --> 01:54:22.840
<v Speaker 5>wanted me. She wanted me on my own to think

1993
01:54:22.880 --> 01:54:28.359
<v Speaker 5>about not doing it. But in the meantime we had

1994
01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:30.880
<v Speaker 5>a discussion and I ended up having a three hour

1995
01:54:31.039 --> 01:54:37.319
<v Speaker 5>private meeting at town Hall with Helena, Mike Lockwran Duty,

1996
01:54:37.640 --> 01:54:40.439
<v Speaker 5>and myself, the four of us in the room up

1997
01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:43.359
<v Speaker 5>at town Hall. And so that's where this comes from,

1998
01:54:43.479 --> 01:54:47.439
<v Speaker 5>with the whole Helena texting me, but it ended up

1999
01:54:47.520 --> 01:54:49.479
<v Speaker 5>going back and forth. We had a three hour meeting.

2000
01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:54.680
<v Speaker 5>It was the same day as that that huge debacle

2001
01:54:54.920 --> 01:54:57.720
<v Speaker 5>at Pequod Side on the last day of the police

2002
01:54:57.760 --> 01:55:00.960
<v Speaker 5>audit there where nobody could get into the police audit

2003
01:55:01.119 --> 01:55:03.439
<v Speaker 5>when they okay, so was that day. That's why I

2004
01:55:03.479 --> 01:55:05.680
<v Speaker 5>didn't go because I spent three hours at town hall

2005
01:55:05.760 --> 01:55:09.960
<v Speaker 5>with them. So it went back and forth. And so

2006
01:55:10.119 --> 01:55:12.279
<v Speaker 5>one of the texts to her when like she was

2007
01:55:12.359 --> 01:55:16.319
<v Speaker 5>like asking me basically like, oh do you have you know?

2008
01:55:16.479 --> 01:55:18.560
<v Speaker 5>I said I go I have no, I don't have

2009
01:55:18.680 --> 01:55:23.039
<v Speaker 5>any I go on as myself, but on Twitter, I

2010
01:55:23.199 --> 01:55:25.880
<v Speaker 5>go on as Dixie Enormous, which was a joke, and

2011
01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:28.399
<v Speaker 5>she had asked me, are you Dixie Normousts I said,

2012
01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:31.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, I am so. So that was the extent

2013
01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:34.079
<v Speaker 5>of Helena texting me, and I kept all the texts.

2014
01:55:35.880 --> 01:55:41.079
<v Speaker 5>But mind you now, James White on January thirtieth has

2015
01:55:41.600 --> 01:55:46.720
<v Speaker 5>a court case over in Stoughton with Chris Alban which

2016
01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:49.720
<v Speaker 5>I was there. I was at the library and in

2017
01:55:49.960 --> 01:55:53.760
<v Speaker 5>the police report it says they tried to get a

2018
01:55:53.800 --> 01:55:56.159
<v Speaker 5>hold of the four people it was it was and

2019
01:55:56.239 --> 01:55:58.760
<v Speaker 5>they were in this their hair. They might hopefully they're

2020
01:55:58.760 --> 01:56:05.199
<v Speaker 5>still watching Dennis Sweeney, myself, Eric did Ramo, and James White.

2021
01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:08.600
<v Speaker 5>And in the police report it said two of us,

2022
01:56:09.720 --> 01:56:14.239
<v Speaker 5>myself and Dennis Sweeney either our numbers were disconnected or

2023
01:56:14.720 --> 01:56:17.159
<v Speaker 5>they were blocked something. It says something like that, and

2024
01:56:17.199 --> 01:56:19.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, they have mine or they couldn't get our

2025
01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:23.439
<v Speaker 5>numbers and I'm like, they have my number, they didn't try,

2026
01:56:25.079 --> 01:56:25.319
<v Speaker 5>you know.

2027
01:56:27.039 --> 01:56:29.640
<v Speaker 3>DJ, before we go, can we just do a quick

2028
01:56:29.720 --> 01:56:32.159
<v Speaker 3>speed round to address Ken's question?

2029
01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:33.399
<v Speaker 5>Yes or no?

2030
01:56:34.119 --> 01:56:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Ken wants to know before he goes to bed.

2031
01:56:37.800 --> 01:56:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Do our lovely guests think John's car was fixed?

2032
01:56:40.399 --> 01:56:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I say yes, yes, yes, yes, no question was Brian

2033
01:56:47.079 --> 01:56:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Wanless the officer that spoke with Peter Murphy and talked

2034
01:56:52.079 --> 01:56:54.960
<v Speaker 2>about helping them remove the tail light and owned a

2035
01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:57.159
<v Speaker 2>body shop, So who the hell else would have done it?

2036
01:56:57.319 --> 01:56:57.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

2037
01:56:57.640 --> 01:56:59.319
<v Speaker 2>I feel confident in that.

2038
01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:00.319
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

2039
01:57:00.680 --> 01:57:03.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm not afraid to step out on that lamb Our opinion.

2040
01:57:05.199 --> 01:57:06.720
<v Speaker 6>So we think it's my opinion.

2041
01:57:07.600 --> 01:57:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Freedom of speech.

2042
01:57:09.960 --> 01:57:10.560
<v Speaker 3>So uh.

2043
01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:14.319
<v Speaker 5>More than one question? Is speed round?

2044
01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

2045
01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:17.279
<v Speaker 6>I think that was it?

2046
01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:21.079
<v Speaker 5>Is there? Any how could you have a round? One question?

2047
01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:23.359
<v Speaker 3>There is a round?

2048
01:57:23.920 --> 01:57:24.640
<v Speaker 6>You go around?

2049
01:57:25.159 --> 01:57:26.840
<v Speaker 3>I got you on that one. Johnny Boy.

2050
01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Keep his ass in love? All right?

2051
01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

2052
01:57:34.479 --> 01:57:35.279
<v Speaker 5>So what is uh?

2053
01:57:35.359 --> 01:57:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's see g has those facts? Thank thank you love. Yeah,

2054
01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean the blessing. Like all of us are being

2055
01:57:44.039 --> 01:57:46.800
<v Speaker 2>able to everyone on this panel here, able to talk

2056
01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:49.520
<v Speaker 2>to Peter Murphy, and you end up, uh you know,

2057
01:57:49.880 --> 01:57:52.319
<v Speaker 2>being edified on things that you never would have known

2058
01:57:52.439 --> 01:57:53.560
<v Speaker 2>but for Peter Murphy.

2059
01:57:56.199 --> 01:58:00.479
<v Speaker 8>Good night, Ken It's lovely to have you here, and

2060
01:58:00.720 --> 01:58:04.520
<v Speaker 8>we will see you next on the next broadcast of

2061
01:58:04.800 --> 01:58:06.520
<v Speaker 8>Calling All Things.

2062
01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Uh, maybe I should Should I read Churchill before

2063
01:58:10.920 --> 01:58:14.880
<v Speaker 2>we go? Should I do a Churchill? Do you guys

2064
01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:15.479
<v Speaker 2>like Churchill?

2065
01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Winston Churchill?

2066
01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:17.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

2067
01:58:18.600 --> 01:58:27.439
<v Speaker 8>See, I'm going to recite his speech.

2068
01:58:29.359 --> 01:58:30.880
<v Speaker 5>Running around looking for nass.

2069
01:58:32.159 --> 01:58:38.359
<v Speaker 2>They were the Nazis out of let me see. Uh,

2070
01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:40.119
<v Speaker 2>here we go, so let's close it out.

2071
01:58:40.640 --> 01:58:43.000
<v Speaker 5>He does Susanne. He sounds like Angela.

2072
01:58:47.239 --> 01:58:48.760
<v Speaker 6>I remember her. That's bad.

2073
01:58:51.920 --> 01:58:56.119
<v Speaker 2>All right. Let me see.

2074
01:58:58.239 --> 01:59:00.920
<v Speaker 5>One more minute to make it a two hours show.

2075
01:59:01.720 --> 01:59:06.119
<v Speaker 2>All right, we can do it, man hour, We got it, Yep,

2076
01:59:06.199 --> 01:59:10.840
<v Speaker 2>we got it. Just give me give me one second show.

2077
01:59:10.920 --> 01:59:11.880
<v Speaker 5>Stop looking at your phone.

2078
01:59:12.279 --> 01:59:17.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm I can't, it's killing me here, yeah, jesus.

2079
01:59:17.720 --> 01:59:20.319
<v Speaker 5>Meanwhile, I look up with my TV, and I can't

2080
01:59:20.359 --> 01:59:22.079
<v Speaker 5>even see myself. All I see is the chat.

2081
01:59:25.640 --> 01:59:29.399
<v Speaker 3>Well the chat loves you, John and Tommy, Well they

2082
01:59:29.479 --> 01:59:29.720
<v Speaker 3>love you.

2083
01:59:29.800 --> 01:59:30.319
<v Speaker 6>Back to b.

2084
01:59:32.520 --> 01:59:32.880
<v Speaker 2>By the way.

2085
01:59:33.199 --> 01:59:37.560
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, you know, I'm going to give you a

2086
01:59:37.600 --> 01:59:41.560
<v Speaker 5>treat because this is not happening in three or four shows.

2087
01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, here we go.

2088
01:59:50.800 --> 01:59:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how about that moment puppies breathing baby, Listen to Susan,

2089
01:59:58.199 --> 02:00:00.520
<v Speaker 2>look at the stitch. Back to Bruh and Albert. A

2090
02:00:00.600 --> 02:00:05.039
<v Speaker 2>lot can happen in seconds. Oh my god, I think

2091
02:00:05.079 --> 02:00:08.359
<v Speaker 2>his pants are off too. I don't know that's important.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, I had him on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, boys, settle down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna get demonetized. I know it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>I was the first.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody else did it for some you know, for a

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<v Speaker 6>good cause a little bit of money.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'll tell you this is all because of Jen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, the old it's because of which Jen, Jen with.

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<v Speaker 6>A name, gonna come to the name for that John,

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<v Speaker 6>It's gonna be, It's gonna be or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye, so years ago, I should just do it. On Fridays,

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<v Speaker 5>I would post a picture me and my ex wife.

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<v Speaker 5>We would do different pictures of it was like I

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<v Speaker 5>did the Joe name of Fara faucet in the you know,

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<v Speaker 5>with the towels. I did all just to be silly, right,

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<v Speaker 5>I do it on Fridays. And then I had got

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<v Speaker 5>rid of my Instagram, but they had saved the picture.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when Turtle came on the scene, Jen one

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<v Speaker 5>night drunkenly texted Turtle a picture of me and like

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<v Speaker 5>that because they thought I was giving him stuff. I

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<v Speaker 5>had nothing to kill him, but they thought it was information.

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<v Speaker 5>And she's like, he's a boy. It's like, who the

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<v Speaker 5>hell is that. I was in my my Canadian speedo,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, going like this, you know, and uh. And

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<v Speaker 5>he put it up on his show time after time

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm like h and I'm like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>embrace it, Just embrace it, just go with it.

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<v Speaker 13>And uh.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's so that's how this whole that's how this

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<v Speaker 5>whole thing came about. Is like it was basically me saying,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, Jen, you want to show everybody and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>not the Turtle.

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<v Speaker 2>I got nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>That's when he show I'm like, all right, you guys

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<v Speaker 5>want there, you go here it is fifty fifty three

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<v Speaker 5>year old dad bought.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Hi, John, I you know, and really

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<v Speaker 2>any salary that we were going to give you probably

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna get more tips now. Yeah, So if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys would like to tip John, please give your venmo

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<v Speaker 2>so don't it me.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, so I can get a microphone, Yeah, give

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<v Speaker 5>me a microphones so I can come back on.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm gonna this is in honor of Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>Karen Reid and the fight. I'm gonna read Churchill again

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<v Speaker 2>to end the show, and then we will close the show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an honor of Karen Reid, Sandra Birchmore just

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<v Speaker 2>en route, and of course and Rique I said that

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<v Speaker 2>almost as cool as be it might have said it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here we go. Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 15>Even though large tracks of Europe and many old and

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<v Speaker 15>famous states have fallen or may fall into the grip

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<v Speaker 15>of the gestepo and the odious apparatus of Natzi rule,

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<v Speaker 15>we shall not flag off hill.

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<v Speaker 2>We shall go on to the end. We shall fight

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<v Speaker 2>in Bronce. We shall fight on the season oceans. We

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<v Speaker 2>shall fight with growing strength and confidence. In the air.

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<v Speaker 2>We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be.

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<v Speaker 2>We shall fight in the beaches. We shall fight in

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<v Speaker 2>the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields, and

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<v Speaker 2>in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We

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<v Speaker 2>shall never surrender. And even if.

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<v Speaker 16>Which I do not for a moment believe this island,

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<v Speaker 16>or a large part of it, we're subjugated and starving,

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<v Speaker 16>than our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by

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<v Speaker 16>the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle until, in

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<v Speaker 16>God's good time, the New World, with all its power

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<v Speaker 16>and might, steps forth to the rescue and liberation of

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<v Speaker 16>the Old House of Commons.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen forty four June.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, there we go, very good, But that's time.

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<v Speaker 5>Since we were talking about can't you could have done

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<v Speaker 5>Paul Revie is one if by land and two if

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<v Speaker 5>by sea, and I on the opposite shore will be

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you could have done that one in a

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<v Speaker 5>little short.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get any man for Paul Revere? And look

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<v Speaker 2>who's in there, Bust and Brandy. You know, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys. Oh somebody gave us a detective mulleins. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, home girl. I appreciate that. Oh that's for

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<v Speaker 2>John taking a shirt off. You know what it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a word. It should have gone to just John. Since

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are sharing stuff, thank you for giving it

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<v Speaker 2>to calling all beings. Thank you so much, Tommy, I

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate having you all swirm. Was it as terrible

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<v Speaker 2>as you thought it was going to be?

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<v Speaker 6>No, it's really hell.

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<v Speaker 2>We exceeded expectations.

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<v Speaker 6>Was great.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be the line once there.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, no where ever go up from there.

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<v Speaker 2>There we gos from Tommy on behalf of many long expectations,

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of John Camo, Tom DeRosier Bey. This is

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<v Speaker 2>d J saying peace out, what love. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 2>down the road, and we're always wondering what's up around

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<v Speaker 2>the bend. Amen, Thanks a lot,
