Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
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Speaker 2: Hey, Gary and Channon. I love the show talking about
Speaker 2: Starbucks and all their little writings on the cup. My
Speaker 2: granddaughter works for them, and well, videntally, somebody wrote a
Speaker 2: heart on one and some other comments and they were
Speaker 2: fired because of the.
Speaker 3: What were the other comments?
Speaker 2: Accused of having other relationships?
Speaker 3: I like your ass, will.
Speaker 2: Okay, so much for writing on your cup.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that coming up a little bit.
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, real quickly. Having worked in the morticians field
Speaker 5: for some time, I can tell you that talking about
Speaker 5: the poem, that body is already bloating, rotting, decaying visibly
Speaker 5: and smelling really bad. I wonder if And by the way, uh,
Speaker 5: probably seven out of every ten funerals are open casket.
Speaker 5: No interesting, because morticians are just that good.
Speaker 3: Have a great interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I watched My Girl and I saw the work that's
Speaker 1: done on a body.
Speaker 4: My Girl of the movie. Yeah, Okay, you.
Speaker 1: Don't want a nineteen ninety one reference anymore. You're done
Speaker 1: with those, huh uh. Be careful with the comments about
Speaker 1: the Pope. By the way, apparently there's been a call
Speaker 1: to the newsroom that I got in trouble when I
Speaker 1: talked about the Pope's glam squad post mortem glam squad
Speaker 1: that's going to have to be on standby for the
Speaker 1: next four days because they're going to have to be
Speaker 1: there's things that, like our mortician friend said, there's things
Speaker 1: that need to be done to the body to keep
Speaker 1: it looking palatable.
Speaker 6: Hey, Garian Channon, you were talking about open caskets. I
Speaker 6: just I have vivid memories of when my grandfather passed.
Speaker 6: I was thirteen years old, and.
Speaker 4: A very wonderful, great memory.
Speaker 6: Is the final time I saw him under Reaver. He
Speaker 6: hugged me so tight and so strong, and I had
Speaker 6: this great part memory with him. And then they had
Speaker 6: an open casket, and I still remember. You couldn't tell
Speaker 6: there was the process, but you could just set like
Speaker 6: the life was government. It's weird and it kind of
Speaker 6: ruined the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so undeniable weird that you say that,
Speaker 1: because my dad. The last time I saw my dad,
Speaker 1: he squeezed my hand so hard and I thought, God,
Speaker 1: with this much strength, he's going to keep keep on living,
Speaker 1: he's got this is he ain't going anywhere. He he's
Speaker 1: It was like a vit script and he died a
Speaker 1: few hours later. But I there must be something towards
Speaker 1: the end of life where you get this this weird
Speaker 1: strength making.
Speaker 4: A full burst of energy.
Speaker 3: Is that a thing that yeah? Yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 3: he didn't have it.
Speaker 1: But he was like in the morphine morphine face haze, right,
Speaker 1: so like there was no energy.
Speaker 3: It was he was like zoning out or whatever.
Speaker 1: But when when I when I held his hand and
Speaker 1: he held back, the strength was incredible.
Speaker 4: My mom was joking.
Speaker 7: Within a few hours of dying, she had gotten up
Speaker 7: out of the bed with help, obviously, was sitting there
Speaker 7: with my dad and her sister and complaining about feeling sick,
Speaker 7: and my aunt said, we'll go it's okay, we'll clean
Speaker 7: it up. It's fine, and she she would pretend to barf.
Speaker 7: She goes blah blah.
Speaker 4: I remember the weirdest story.
Speaker 7: But I mean, for a couple of days before that,
Speaker 7: there was no almost no communication.
Speaker 4: It was really she was really out.
Speaker 7: So she wasn't zonked out on morphine. She did have plenty,
Speaker 7: but but just hours she.
Speaker 1: Was sitting up in a chair making barf jokes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what a strong woman.
Speaker 4: All right, it's time for swamp watch. I'm a politician,
Speaker 4: which means I'm a cheat and a liar, and when
Speaker 4: I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops. Here we
Speaker 4: got the real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 1: The other side never quits what.
Speaker 4: I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 8: So that is how you.
Speaker 4: Train the swat.
Speaker 3: I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
Speaker 3: what has been.
Speaker 2: You know, Americans have always been going act president, but
Speaker 2: they're not stupid.
Speaker 9: A political flunder is when a politician actually tells.
Speaker 2: The truth whether people voted for you with not swap watch,
Speaker 2: they're all count of on.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 7: The big story I think trade wise is the Wall
Speaker 7: Street Journal has a big article suggesting the White House
Speaker 7: is considering cutting the tariffs on Chinese imports, in some
Speaker 7: cases by more than a half, in order to de
Speaker 7: escalate what we're seeing is the gathering clouds of a
Speaker 7: trade war.
Speaker 1: Now, the President hasn't made a final determination. The discussions
Speaker 1: remain fluid. Several options are on the table. One official
Speaker 1: in the administration says Trump would not act unilaterally and
Speaker 1: would need some action from Beijing to lower tariffs, but
Speaker 1: kind of backing off that firm stance, and we have
Speaker 1: seen the markets respond in kind.
Speaker 10: Undred and forty five percent is very high, and it
Speaker 10: won't be that high. It's not going to be that high.
Speaker 10: It'll come down substantially, but it won't be zero.
Speaker 1: He used to be zero.
Speaker 4: We were just destroyed.
Speaker 10: China was taking us for a ride and just not
Speaker 10: going to have It's not going to happen.
Speaker 7: Here is a Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Bessen.
Speaker 11: China can start by moving its economy away from export
Speaker 11: over capacity and towards supporting its own consumers and domestic demand.
Speaker 11: Such a ship would help with global rebalancing that the
Speaker 11: world desperately needs.
Speaker 7: He did suggest that a rebalancing, the word that he used,
Speaker 7: could take two to three years when it comes to
Speaker 7: getting things all copasetic with China. One White House official
Speaker 7: said that the tariffs would likely come down between fifty
Speaker 7: and sixty five percent, and there was a plan that
Speaker 7: was put forward by the House Committee on China late
Speaker 7: last year and the administration is pparently using it as
Speaker 7: somewhat of a blueprint. It would be thirty five percent
Speaker 7: levee on stuff coming in from China that's not considered
Speaker 7: a threat to national security, and one hundred percent at
Speaker 7: least one hundred percent for those things that are deemed
Speaker 7: strategic to America's interest. So the proposed phasing in of
Speaker 7: those levees over the course of five years. We know
Speaker 7: that President Trump likes to do things right now. We'll
Speaker 7: see how that goes. But again it looks as if
Speaker 7: there is some wiggle room. I mentioned earlier that there
Speaker 7: is a group of Chinese officials in Washington, DC this week,
Speaker 7: so that may give an opportunity to both sides to
Speaker 7: kind of meet and discuss whatever's going on, maybe show
Speaker 7: some develop some of those contours of the outline so
Speaker 7: we can have some discussions on it.
Speaker 1: Daw Is up five to sixty six, Nasdaq up five
Speaker 1: point twenty two s and P five hundred up one
Speaker 1: twelve upon that news and mentioned Elon Musk leaving Doge.
Speaker 3: Potentially that was the rumor.
Speaker 1: The headline today is that he is going to cut
Speaker 1: back time it doze as Tesla stock's plummet.
Speaker 12: Starting and next month may my time allocation to dog
Speaker 12: wool drop significantly. They I'll continue to spend a day
Speaker 12: or two per week on govern matters for as long
Speaker 12: as the President would like.
Speaker 4: Me to do so.
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention this an earthquake six point two
Speaker 1: shook is Tanbul today other areas of Turkey as well,
Speaker 1: prompting widespread panic, a lot of injuries. This is a
Speaker 1: city of sixteen million people. No immediate reports of serious damage.
Speaker 1: I believe they mean structural or structural or.
Speaker 3: Unique.
Speaker 7: No, I don't think so, but I just want to
Speaker 7: I don't want to pressure you in say structurally.
Speaker 1: At least two hundred and thirty six people were treated
Speaker 1: for injuries while trying to jump from buildings or for
Speaker 1: panic attacks. Listen to this phrase from the Associated Press.
Speaker 1: Most of those people in Istanbul where residents are on
Speaker 1: tenter hooks because the city is considered at a high
Speaker 1: risk for a major quake.
Speaker 7: Have you ever heard that before? Tenter hooks tenterhooks, Yeah,
Speaker 7: but I've never heard it in such a what should
Speaker 7: be a serious story.
Speaker 1: On tenter hooks means to be in a state of
Speaker 1: anxious suspense or nervous anticipation, like a piece of cloth
Speaker 1: stretched tightly on a tenter frame. So that was fascinating enterframe,
Speaker 1: tenter hooks where this is a week of new words.
Speaker 1: Tell me what that means, which are bulk.
Speaker 7: No, there's not afraid you're going to say it wrong,
Speaker 7: and I'm trying to protect you from you're.
Speaker 3: Saying it wrong every time. You're trying to.
Speaker 13: The reason why I talk about his speedo is that's
Speaker 13: the only thing you guys ever played when I said
Speaker 13: stuff I talk about Trump or football.
Speaker 3: Oh well, here's the fun.
Speaker 13: Wow, I bring up his speed o. It's like magic.
Speaker 13: Next thing you know, I'm on the air right after
Speaker 13: I leave the message. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Here's a fun fact. Gary chooses what to play so
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to hear you talk about Trump or football.
Speaker 1: He wants to hear you talk about himself in a speedo.
Speaker 3: That's my takeaway.
Speaker 4: That's your takeaway.
Speaker 1: Well, you are the gatekeeper of the talkback and you've
Speaker 1: only chose to play that gentleman's comments regarding you half naked,
Speaker 1: three quarters naked, seven eighths naked, this about ninety percent naked,
Speaker 1: a lot of naked. So is this something that you
Speaker 1: want to address with him?
Speaker 10: Oh, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
Speaker 10: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4: We did get a message from somebody. I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 7: Oh this was not necessarily a end of life topic,
Speaker 7: but we're talking about the rallying phase.
Speaker 8: Hey, Gary, Shannon, just want to let you know that
Speaker 8: there is a phase of the death process, or the
Speaker 8: dying process called the rally phase, which is probably what Shannon,
Speaker 8: your father was experiencing. Towards the very end. They get
Speaker 8: this burst of energy, it seems like everything's fine, and
Speaker 8: then they go a few hours later.
Speaker 6: The same thing happened with my mom fourty years ago.
Speaker 3: So there is such a thing, and it's I learned
Speaker 3: about it watching Dying for Sex.
Speaker 7: You've seen it in movies and TV shows too. Most
Speaker 7: often it, I mean in a comedy, is what I
Speaker 7: was going to say, more so than you would see
Speaker 7: it in a dramatic although there have been dramatic death
Speaker 7: scenes where someone is energetic right up until the very end.
Speaker 1: It was actually fascinating in that show Dying for Sex
Speaker 1: on Hulu where the hospice nurse comes in and says,
Speaker 1: all right, this is how it's going to happen, and
Speaker 1: she goes through all the stages and it was fascinating.
Speaker 1: It was really interesting from a I am not in
Speaker 1: that phase of life with anyone right now, so it
Speaker 1: was just interesting to take it all in and go, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I listen. I've said it before.
Speaker 7: The hospice nurses that came and took care of my parents,
Speaker 7: and they're unbelievable. I mean just and I guess in any
Speaker 7: line of work, you're gonna find some bad ones, but
Speaker 7: so amazing in that they see it every day, you don't.
Speaker 7: I mean they see it every day and they know
Speaker 7: how difficult it is because you're not used to this,
Speaker 7: you know that you're losing someone that you love, and
Speaker 7: they just take away so much of the questions about
Speaker 7: And it wasn't it wasn't even necessarily for me or
Speaker 7: I mean for my dad it was. He had a
Speaker 7: lot of questions about what, what's gonna happen, is it
Speaker 7: gonna hurt, what's all that stuff? And just those conversations
Speaker 7: that allowed him to just relax.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just relax.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people want to know a timetable,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's a hard question to ask. You
Speaker 1: feel guilty asking it, Like, so how much time do
Speaker 1: you think he has? Like a day two days a week.
Speaker 1: I think that's a common question for every family member
Speaker 1: to have, and a hospice nurse is going to get
Speaker 1: you as close to God's clock probably as you're ever
Speaker 1: going to get.
Speaker 7: Which is a great way to put it, because the
Speaker 7: two times that the question was asked was for Dad.
Speaker 7: This would have been three weeks before he passed, and
Speaker 7: then the day that he passed, and it was we
Speaker 7: asked the first nurse, hey, just like, are we going
Speaker 7: to make it to Christmas? And she said, yeah, probably
Speaker 7: going to make it to Christmas, but not but maybe
Speaker 7: not New Year's Those were her words. And then the
Speaker 7: nurse that came on December twenty seventh, our December twenty
Speaker 7: sixth would have said that morning when she came in
Speaker 7: and checked everything and had conversation with us, she said,
Speaker 7: it's very close. And by five o'clock that night he
Speaker 7: passed away. I mean, between Christmas and New Year's. You're right,
Speaker 7: it's just the idea that they have. They've seen it
Speaker 7: so often, they know the signs, they know the stages.
Speaker 1: Do you think I could sign those nurses up for football?
Speaker 1: Action helped me get in on my prize picks.
Speaker 4: It's not a bad.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: I'm well, if the if the Pope didn't have that.
Speaker 1: I was trying to make light and I feel bad
Speaker 1: about it now you should.
Speaker 7: Uh, this is and I was going to make it
Speaker 7: no more to make me feel better about me. No
Speaker 7: more humor attempts when it comes to the Pope.
Speaker 3: No, I think we're doing it.
Speaker 7: There is at least we're in the morning period now,
Speaker 7: so we'll keep it on the on the downlow, at
Speaker 7: least until the concrest. I think that Pope would have
Speaker 7: laughed though about the glam squad, and he loved football.
Speaker 3: Did a lot of them love football?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: I mean soccer, soccer football.
Speaker 7: It's not the same Seattle based coffee chain Starbucks has
Speaker 7: instructed its cafe workers to write messages on every to
Speaker 7: go cup possible.
Speaker 1: I think it's been five hundred years since I've referred
Speaker 1: to it or seen it or heard it referred to
Speaker 1: as Seattle based.
Speaker 7: Why because it's ubiquis that's true forever? That's sally a
Speaker 7: good point, they said. The doodles have drawn delight, confusion,
Speaker 7: and shrugs as baristas play Picasso. They've also prompted the
Speaker 7: company to take steps to rein in some of the
Speaker 7: artistry and rebuff any baristas who takes shortcuts.
Speaker 1: Well, you can't just say, write something on everyone's cup
Speaker 1: and then go you wrote something, You wrote that on
Speaker 1: everyone's cup. I mean, apparently they've gotten they've gone a
Speaker 1: little bit far. Some of the comments have been you know,
Speaker 1: you're amazing, You've got this, things like that.
Speaker 3: The smiley face.
Speaker 1: Jim Merritt is a fifty four year old investment officer
Speaker 1: from Palm Beach. He's a He is a regular smiley
Speaker 1: Face recipient. He says in his comment it's okay, I guess.
Speaker 1: Fred McGregor counts himself among the nonplused camp. He's sixty six.
Speaker 1: He's from Richmond, Virginia. He's a voice actor. Smiled at
Speaker 1: the catface doodled across the top of his Grande Latte
Speaker 1: cup alongside a happy Spring message on the sleeve.
Speaker 4: How long does it take?
Speaker 10: That?
Speaker 7: My only concern? How long is it taking somebody to
Speaker 7: draw a fluffy little cartoon dog on my coffee?
Speaker 11: Right?
Speaker 3: Aren't you just just there to get.
Speaker 4: The You're there to get the coffee and go.
Speaker 1: Richard Holnick was confused by the smeared sharpie greedy greeting
Speaker 1: on his coffee cup. He says he's fifty six, he's
Speaker 1: events producer. He said that they're busy. I'm busy. I'm
Speaker 1: not friends with them.
Speaker 3: What the hell? I don't need a happy face. I
Speaker 3: liked it.
Speaker 10: I like it.
Speaker 7: I do think it's funny. I think everybody I could
Speaker 7: go back and double check your work here. But everyone
Speaker 7: that complained about it was a dude, a middle aged dude. Yeah,
Speaker 7: give me, just go to my coffee and I gotta
Speaker 7: go right stop with your dogs.
Speaker 4: And can imagine that John.
Speaker 1: Cobalt got a happy face cat on his coffee cup.
Speaker 3: We'd never hear the end of it.
Speaker 1: Actually, no, that's probably not true, because John's really nice person.
Speaker 1: In real life he would actually be into that. I
Speaker 1: think he really would be into like a nice little
Speaker 1: cat drawing or a dog, like a happy face, maybe
Speaker 1: a little bow. I think that would in real life,
Speaker 1: real life John, it would.
Speaker 3: Make him happy.
Speaker 7: I was asking you earlier, since somebody wrote high on
Speaker 7: your Starbucks cup, if you went in and said that
Speaker 7: that was your name, you go back to that Starbucks
Speaker 7: and you know that that barista writes high on everybody's
Speaker 7: cup and you just say I'll take a triple tall,
Speaker 7: non fat ventie macchiato.
Speaker 4: And they say what's your name?
Speaker 7: And you say hi, so they say hi, triple tall,
Speaker 7: non fat you or whatever. The fact that you were
Speaker 7: able to come up with that Starbucks order, I got
Speaker 7: two different sizes in there, so.
Speaker 3: I I didn't know.
Speaker 7: I was just like, what who are you? I just
Speaker 7: said some semi Italian.
Speaker 1: I thought you were a small drip guy. I just
Speaker 1: got me a regular coffee.
Speaker 4: I am, That's who I am.
Speaker 3: I good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's too much sugar in that other stuff.
Speaker 1: Remember you drank two unicorn Oh my gosh, Starbucks drake.
Speaker 4: What was the unicorn frappe or whatever? That?
Speaker 7: It's so awful, And I had like sparkle. Each one
Speaker 7: had like eighty grams of sugar.
Speaker 4: It's so bad. I felt so high.
Speaker 3: So you got you got Clammy and Pale?
Speaker 4: All right?
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Speaker 3: Well, you provide the show with depth.
Speaker 4: That's definitely what I justin worship.
Speaker 1: Join Wednesdays Hey, I had a great time listening to
Speaker 1: your show on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: You know, as much as we d around in.
Speaker 1: Here talking about kids, I really enjoyed it. It was
Speaker 1: it was a lot of information, a lot of succinctly
Speaker 1: put information, and I learned a lot and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: It was entertaining as well.
Speaker 4: You can make fun of me for crying, by the way,
Speaker 4: I can. I could take it.
Speaker 1: I cried to hear the whole thing. You cry, I cry,
Speaker 1: Sweet Jesus.
Speaker 9: The change in her face like she wanted to take
Speaker 9: back everything. At the top of the second hour, I
Speaker 9: got emotional because I had a trust attorney on giving
Speaker 9: people advice on a state planning and uh, and so
Speaker 9: reliving the loss of my father that I don't at
Speaker 9: least say you don't care, like you're the only one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dad's dead. He's gone over her crying stepfather minutes ago.
Speaker 4: I know, trust me, this is how much again?
Speaker 9: You guys pop into my head like Jimmy Crickets of
Speaker 9: radio in that I'm leaving the building, and I was like,
Speaker 9: how is that show?
Speaker 4: And then I immediately the two of you like pop
Speaker 4: up on my shoulder, go you cried your little baby.
Speaker 3: No, you don't have to tell me.
Speaker 1: You think that if I heard you crying on the radio,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have led with that, like, oh yeah, what
Speaker 1: was going on there?
Speaker 9: That's why I said it because I wanted I wanted
Speaker 9: you to know that if it ever came up, that
Speaker 9: I could take it. Obviously I could take it, but no,
Speaker 9: I think it went well. Honestly, you can do it
Speaker 9: again this week.
Speaker 4: This Sunday is the last day, and then they decide
Speaker 4: if they want to give it to me or not.
Speaker 1: Really, gosh, that's like that's a sudden death.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of pressure, guys, Hey, don't cry.
Speaker 4: That's just where it's wisdom from a couple of broadcasting.
Speaker 1: You want us to come in and just throw crap
Speaker 1: at you so you don't cry?
Speaker 9: Yeah, because I mean, this is like fourth quarter and
Speaker 9: I don't thrive under this kind of pressure. You do not,
Speaker 9: I'm not a closer.
Speaker 4: Prior.
Speaker 7: Well, let's get personal here. Do you have ADHD? I
Speaker 7: do not, as far as I'm aware anybody who does.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
Speaker 9: Part of why I wanted to bring this in is
Speaker 9: because there's so much information here that I think I
Speaker 9: don't think it necessarily is saying that people who are
Speaker 9: saying they have ADHD don't. But what the biggest thing
Speaker 9: that left out to me was that the expert who
Speaker 9: kind of like pioneered the research in this, he felt
Speaker 9: like a three percent threshold of diagnosis for our country
Speaker 9: was fair, and in nineteen I think it was ninety
Speaker 9: seven that jumped up to six percent or five and
Speaker 9: a half percent. In two thousand it was six point
Speaker 9: six percent, and then today it's at let me see,
Speaker 9: eleven point four percent of Americans are diagnosed with ADHD.
Speaker 9: And what's interesting too, is that he was researching the
Speaker 9: benefits of using ridlin, which is essentially an amphetamine, and
Speaker 9: they use that to treat ADHD, and so they did
Speaker 9: studies to compare it versus behavioral therapy and riddling, and
Speaker 9: riddling mop the floor with behavioral therapy as far as
Speaker 9: it's effect on people with ADHD until you get to
Speaker 9: thirty six months. After three years, there is virtually no
Speaker 9: difference in the modification of behavior between somebody who was
Speaker 9: on riddling and somebody who's getting behavior even.
Speaker 7: After having used it for it for thirty six months.
Speaker 7: You went like, after you're three years old.
Speaker 4: You can't. You can't use it pies anymore. But beforehead
Speaker 4: hop them, go for it, burn them, take all you want. Okay.
Speaker 7: So, but the the idea of and we saw this,
Speaker 7: it's not the it's not an exact correlation. We saw
Speaker 7: this with the discussion about autism and autism the increased
Speaker 7: rates of autism.
Speaker 4: Is it because we're diagnosing it now better or more
Speaker 4: than we were.
Speaker 3: Thirty forty years ago? Where is where do we stand
Speaker 3: with that?
Speaker 9: When it comes to EIGHTYHD, it seems like it again,
Speaker 9: like you already said, very very different circumstances. Like what's
Speaker 9: interesting to me is they use nine different categories in
Speaker 9: two different in two different characters. So there's nine categories
Speaker 9: for inattentiveness and then there's nine categories for just behavioral
Speaker 9: issues or impulsiveness. And all you have to do is
Speaker 9: get six, So that's eighteen total. You just have to
Speaker 9: have six from any category and you are diagnosed with ADHD.
Speaker 9: So not a doctor, but just doing some basics. He's
Speaker 9: pointing at someone in the room that is not me.
Speaker 1: If that's helpful, table, what's the difference between ADHD and
Speaker 1: easily distracted?
Speaker 4: There's got to be some crossover there. I think that's
Speaker 4: part of the.
Speaker 9: Conversation we're having, right, Like, just like you know, on
Speaker 9: Love on the Spectrum, there is a woman on there
Speaker 9: who said that she is on the spectrum, but she
Speaker 9: is not what like I'll say myself, not what a
Speaker 9: dumb person who has knows very little about about No.
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about that. I don't think of her
Speaker 4: as a rapist.
Speaker 9: She is an empowered woman who wants to have sex
Speaker 9: and that as well she should. Wow, she's an adult
Speaker 9: as long as she could find somebody. Take the shovel
Speaker 9: out of my hand, please carry anything at all.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and you're in sudden death zone and I'm
Speaker 1: just laying the mass.
Speaker 3: I take back to that comment and I will move on.
Speaker 4: That's hilarious.
Speaker 9: So again, I wish I had more of an answer
Speaker 9: for that question other than the experts are saying in
Speaker 9: writing that they believe it is over diagnosed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think, well, because it was underdiagnosed for
Speaker 1: so long. I think my mother and her brother definitely
Speaker 1: had ADHD or have it.
Speaker 3: He's dead, she's alive.
Speaker 1: But like the just the level of like things going
Speaker 1: on and you know, getting easily distracted and all of that,
Speaker 1: like all over the place, energy and all the things.
Speaker 1: But they didn't diagnose women for so long. With this
Speaker 1: is another thing. It's wildly it's still wild underdiagnosed when
Speaker 1: it comes to women because they think of it as
Speaker 1: a little boy problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: The little girls are supposed.
Speaker 1: To just seen and not heard, and then you've got
Speaker 1: all your crazy stuff going on in your brain.
Speaker 4: Is this also a geographical problem? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, well we saw that with autism where there
Speaker 1: were pockets of it, right, You saw it like in
Speaker 1: the South, the rich areas or as being diagnosed because
Speaker 1: these were parents who were like, I think there's something
Speaker 1: going on and had the time and the extra money
Speaker 1: and the leisure to take their kid in and to
Speaker 1: whatever specialist and get this diagnosis.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But I want to know, because you're talking about the
Speaker 7: behavioral therapy that that as a as a way to
Speaker 7: treat adhd add and adhd And I'd be curious if
Speaker 7: if a kid had something to do on a regular basis, job,
Speaker 7: chore lot, whatever, you've got to get yourself ready for school,
Speaker 7: parents aren't is does any of that change.
Speaker 4: The likelihood of a diagnosis? So what later on two
Speaker 4: things that I think are interesting.
Speaker 9: Once a child or a person has been on Riddlin
Speaker 9: for thirty six months, they did research and you're more
Speaker 9: likely to be at least an inch shorter or about
Speaker 9: at most an inch shorter than other people who are
Speaker 9: not taking Riddlin, which was interesting as well. But then
Speaker 9: at the very end of the article, the doctor says
Speaker 9: that the biggest health has more to do with their
Speaker 9: circle of friends as they get older than any other treatment.
Speaker 9: So if you can get them around a peer group
Speaker 9: that I'm guessing Unfortunately they don't expand on it, but
Speaker 9: based on the multiple psychologists stuff I talked to on
Speaker 9: the podcast back in the day, I think what they're
Speaker 9: saying is is that if you could get them in
Speaker 9: a supportive environment, but that one that isn't necessarily enabling
Speaker 9: or making excuses for them, but kind of can gently
Speaker 9: push them to get better, that they will thrive.
Speaker 7: Interesting because you could do that same thing when it
Speaker 7: comes to emotions Ye've talked about before, like dealing with
Speaker 7: your emotions, yeah, as opposed to claiming anxiety and then
Speaker 7: allowing yourself to shut down.
Speaker 9: And I'm willing to bet that when we come back
Speaker 9: we could talk about that anxiety right there as being
Speaker 9: one of those emotions.
Speaker 3: Look at that he's already handling, tossing to the brakes.
Speaker 4: Hope the manager was listening. You think that?
Speaker 10: Good on?
Speaker 4: So I clutched up. Stafford did this? This is good?
Speaker 3: No no no no, no, no no no no, you
Speaker 3: didn't do that.
Speaker 4: Let's not Stafford.
Speaker 3: Good lord.
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Speaker 7: Everybody's watching the movie Conclave to see what Conclave is, okay,
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I didn't watch the movie, but I know about it
Speaker 7: enough to know that there's some twists in there that
Speaker 7: are not going to come up this time around.
Speaker 1: No secret genitals. I believe secret genitals is a good yes,
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Speaker 1: what you don't like, what you're excited about Justin Worsham
Speaker 1: joins us, we talk about the children, talk about the children.
Speaker 7: True, we're talking about anxiety actually just before the break
Speaker 7: there and some new science studies anxious children. Yeah, and
Speaker 7: the kind of parent that would raise an anxious child.
Speaker 7: They serve us this is back at twenty fifteen.
Speaker 9: They surveyed nine hundred paternal and fraternal and identical twins
Speaker 9: who had children, and what they were trying to do
Speaker 9: is to use this as a way to figure out
Speaker 9: if anxiety is more nature or nurture, right, so is
Speaker 9: it genetically passed on? And what they found, in short
Speaker 9: is that the child of the twin had more in
Speaker 9: common with their parents than they did the parents twin.
Speaker 9: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 9: The part that doesn't make sense to me is that
Speaker 9: it's not accounting for whoever the other parents' biological contribution
Speaker 9: would be.
Speaker 1: But you're mis Y's right, Yeah, Because if mom's the
Speaker 1: anxious one, and you've got the two dads, or you've
Speaker 1: got the brothers that.
Speaker 3: Are twins, and then that one of the twins.
Speaker 1: So except with an anxious woman, they have a kid
Speaker 1: that pops out and the kid's anxious.
Speaker 9: Dad's not anxious, and they did some digger, deeping deeper,
Speaker 9: digging into it, and they found that they called it
Speaker 9: negative behavior, negative parenting behaviors, And what they were saying
Speaker 9: is that this would be an example of a parent
Speaker 9: actually inducing anxiety because they feel it, and so this
Speaker 9: is that thing of But it kind of supports their
Speaker 9: premise is that where they think anxiety really comes from
Speaker 9: is the environment. And for me personally, I would go
Speaker 9: back to the pandemic. Right, my kids were not impacted
Speaker 9: at all. And I'm not saying I did it right.
Speaker 9: I'm not saying them did it better. That's not my point.
Speaker 9: My point is it's just they didn't. They weren't anxious
Speaker 9: about it. It didn't really affect them academically other than
Speaker 9: what it would have affected anybody to not be in
Speaker 9: a classroom. But socially it didn't affect them. But I
Speaker 9: know a lot of people who their kids were heavily impacted.
Speaker 9: But I also feel that they were also impacted. Right,
Speaker 9: So if you're if they.
Speaker 7: Would they were in many ways, or we've said in
Speaker 7: many ways. They'll take your cues. Yes, how you handle
Speaker 7: a situation is how they would handle a situation.
Speaker 4: And survey basically supports that.
Speaker 7: And we've said this before, like it's important for me
Speaker 7: if I'm ever at a restaurant or we were at
Speaker 7: restaurants with our kids, which didn't happen.
Speaker 4: Very oft because they're kids, you know, want to take
Speaker 4: into a restaurant.
Speaker 7: But it was always to show respects to the people
Speaker 7: that were serving your you know, your waiters and waitresses
Speaker 7: or whoever it was, and the people deliver your food.
Speaker 4: You'll always say thank you to them.
Speaker 7: Tried to impress our kids by tipping well and things
Speaker 7: like that that you just take your cues in those
Speaker 7: types of environments, but also those higher stress environments. How
Speaker 7: does mom handle it when the bills are due, or
Speaker 7: how does dad handle it when he gets called out
Speaker 7: on the softball field for being a loser.
Speaker 9: And I think the takeaway from this is that my
Speaker 9: intent Obviously I'm a guy who cries. I'm very emotional,
Speaker 9: but I think when it comes to worrying, for of
Speaker 9: a better way of putting it, that's just not my thing,
Speaker 9: right So, but that my kids are probably a more
Speaker 9: either that or they're overcrecting the other way, Like I
Speaker 9: don't want to be a big baby like my father
Speaker 9: because I definitely cry more than anyone in the house.
Speaker 4: I know, right, But.
Speaker 7: I again, I I just I'm not thinking as much
Speaker 7: as I talk crap about it.
Speaker 3: I think it's very it shows a lot of strength.
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know if it's just strength does I'm
Speaker 9: not comfortable with that. I'm with you, Gary, Yeah, carry's
Speaker 9: thinking of me.
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not trying to pretend like I'm strong.
Speaker 3: I'm just cry in front of his children.
Speaker 9: But I think what I what The big takeaway in
Speaker 9: fact I actually talked about this with my therapists earlier,
Speaker 9: was that he pointed out to me that I when
Speaker 9: when thinking back on my father, my father always had
Speaker 9: it together and he always was like there was As
Speaker 9: a teenager, I was like, I just wish this guy
Speaker 9: would be wrong once right. And as I've gotten older,
Speaker 9: I've seen that, Yeah, he had flaws, he had weaknesses.
Speaker 4: He's a guy. And so I've decided to just be
Speaker 4: more trained parent.
Speaker 9: With my weaknesses with my kids in case maybe that
Speaker 9: helps them to grow up and not feel not that Again,
Speaker 9: I wasn't a victim of anything. I'm just saying that
Speaker 9: if there's some way that I can prove on what
Speaker 9: I think. My father did an amazing job as a father.
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to make it a little bit better.
Speaker 9: So that's part of the reason. Also, because I can't
Speaker 9: really control it.
Speaker 3: How much to pay this therapist.
Speaker 4: I don't know. It comes out of my interests.
Speaker 1: You want to stick around for another hour, sure we'll
Speaker 1: take venmo.
Speaker 4: That's really going to help me with my Sunday audition,
Speaker 4: channet if also let you do psychoanalyze me for.
Speaker 9: An hour, forget about what's going on in the world.
Speaker 9: One thing I want to have before we leave, though,
Speaker 9: that I thought was interesting is there was also examples
Speaker 9: within this data that parents could pick up anxiety from
Speaker 9: their children. Really yeah, that it works in the reverse
Speaker 9: as well, that if you had a kid who was
Speaker 9: more anxious.
Speaker 4: Which I think makes sense because you're naturally going to
Speaker 4: fear more anxious.
Speaker 1: I can see you being anxious about your kids anxieties
Speaker 1: exactly not your own, but feeling like kind of on
Speaker 1: pins and needles, like are they going to have another
Speaker 1: episode or whatever kind of thing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, because I was very Mike's older son was a
Speaker 9: very anxious young man.
Speaker 4: Now he is not. Now she was a little more anxious.
Speaker 4: He's definitely over grade. Just tighten self confidence.
Speaker 3: All right, good for him.
Speaker 4: Justin Sunday from two to four, two to four, last day,
Speaker 4: tune in or find the possible.
Speaker 3: So what do you find out?
Speaker 1: Like? Is this like cheerleading trials? Like you go to
Speaker 1: the girls chym and there's a list. There's a list
Speaker 1: at noon and you find out the next day.
Speaker 4: There it is.
Speaker 9: Two people who've worked in radio for decades longer than
Speaker 9: I am are asking me how this is going down.
Speaker 5: I don't know either.
Speaker 4: I have no clue. They didn't tell me that part.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, we're cheering for you.
Speaker 9: I hope I get it, and I just want a
Speaker 9: cool radio firing story where I come into my badge
Speaker 9: doesn't work or something one of those.
Speaker 4: I didn't get that.
Speaker 3: I see you going down in a.
Speaker 1: Fire in the studio door, and you're not a quietly
Speaker 1: the key card guy.
Speaker 4: All right, thanks man. You've been listening to The Gary
Speaker 4: and Shannon Show.
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