WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:21.879 Voices drift on winds untamed, where it's like spells that 2 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:23.399 can't be made. 3 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:29.879 Close your eyes and feel the sound journey where no 4 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:32.600 bounds are found. 5 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:41.640 Open doors inside your mind, the ordinary farm behind color, 6 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:45.640 swirl and stars line in. 7 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:52.799 The mental mysteries, you'll find Welcome to Mada Mysteries, where 8 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:56.240 you don't know what you don't know. My name's Jonathan, 9 00:00:56.640 --> 00:01:00.560 I'm Sean, and today is not wonder when day, but 10 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.079 it's just gonna have to be met a Monday. We're 11 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:06.879 doing it a little early this time, and we have 12 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:10.920 an amazing guest tonight that we are really looking forward 13 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:15.680 to having another conversation with. She'll be here shortly, but 14 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:19.159 the last time she was on she blew some minds. 15 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:20.560 That's just what she does. 16 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.400 Yes, dude, I could not wait for tonight because I 17 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.120 have a feeling something similar is going to happen tonight. 18 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:28.400 So I've really been looking forward to this one. And 19 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:30.760 we got Nick with us today, so I didn't want 20 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.040 him to miss out on this one because I don't. 21 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:34.599 Know, I just have a feeling something cool is gonna happen. 22 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:35.879 Okay, yeah, Hi, Nick. 23 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.280 There she is the dojo sense I love the name dude. 24 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:47.920 Oh wait, am I still in this? Oh it's fine, 25 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.280 you know what, It's fine. I'm using my work email. 26 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:54.400 I'm a I guess I'm not in my personal zoom, 27 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:55.239 but I guess it's all right. 28 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:58.359 Uh yeah, I like the money tree. 29 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.159 Oh yeah, yeah, I actually do have a real money 30 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:04.599 tree downstairs in my house, but that's just a fake one. Yeah. 31 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:06.799 This is I'm a voiceover coach at the Vo Dojo 32 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:11.240 in Los Angeles, and this is our zoom this is 33 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:12.199 our zoom room. 34 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:15.919 So welcome, and I actually thank you for welcoming me. 35 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:18.800 I appreciate that, you know, welcome to the Welcome to 36 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:22.719 the jojo zoom room. 37 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:27.360 Yeah. So for anybody that wasn't able to catch the 38 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.280 last one, which we got a lot of positivity coming 39 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:33.800 from that one, a lot of people were just absolutely 40 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:37.319 mind blown. Anytime we get somebody who is just extra 41 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:42.080 connected and can prove it is so fascinating. But for 42 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:45.000 anybody that is unaware of you, would you mind giving 43 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:45.719 them the rundown? 44 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:50.840 I would be happy to. I love what you're wearing, John, 45 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.080 thank you. I love your glasses and I love your shirt, 46 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:57.879 and it's all working for you. It is a whole vibe. 47 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:00.120 I am Shannon, and pardon the glare in my glass. 48 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:02.800 I just cannot see. I need to. I haven't eye exams. 49 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:07.280 I can't see without them. So I am a person. 50 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:09.479 I am a soul living in a human body. I 51 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:14.319 am a voice actor and a voiceover coach, and I 52 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.879 am a psychic medium. And I host the podcast called 53 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:19.960 Magic is Real, which is the podcast where we explore 54 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:24.400 near death experiences, other spiritually transformative experiences, and all things 55 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:28.280 metaphysical and spiritual. And also we've been talking a lot 56 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:33.240 about like spiritual healing, different modalities and different healers and 57 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.840 things like that. So, like you, I just have a 58 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.240 curiosity about all of the things quantum physics. I love 59 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:42.319 your podcast because you guys can talk about it with 60 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:47.319 like authority, Whereas I'm really into quantum physics. But I 61 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:50.759 my brain just flips inside out when I try to 62 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.439 read about it, even though I just try to absorb. 63 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.919 But I find it. I think about it every day, 64 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:59.280 I listen to videos about it every day. I just 65 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.199 don't think I could actually explain it back to you 66 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:02.960 if you asked. 67 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:05.520 I mean, hey, we're still learning all this stuff too, 68 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:07.639 and we try and you know, break it down into 69 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.680 little bite sized pieces so that we can understand it 70 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.840 in order to be able to describe it. Probably the 71 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:16.360 coolest one is the double slit experiment, but everybody knows 72 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:21.199 about that. Yeah, but yeah, I think that all quantum 73 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:24.839 physics is showing that none of this is real. That's 74 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:26.879 that's really what That's the whole purpose of it is 75 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.920 to say you thought wrong. That's about it. 76 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:32.000 That's gonna say, at the very least, it's not what 77 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:32.800 you thought it was. 78 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.319 Yes, And that's why I tattooed on my arm. Life 79 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:37.040 is but a dream. 80 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:38.120 Love it. 81 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:41.000 I always say that. I always anytime somebody's like, well 82 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:42.600 you think the earth is flatter, you think it's wround, 83 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:43.959 I'm saying, it's a dream, bitch. 84 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.600 That's all it is. That we're in the dream together. 85 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:47.720 That makes me so happy. 86 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.040 Sometimes it's a nightmare, but most of the time it's 87 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:51.759 a dream. 88 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.560 Yeah, Yeah, it can really also be a nightmare. Meant, 89 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.399 much of the time I try to just kind of 90 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.680 stay in the dream as much as I can, because 91 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.480 there's just so much dark energy out there that it's 92 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.319 like we just can't fix it all, and to try 93 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:10.519 to is just fruitless. And the as much as I 94 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:14.439 know people sometimes think like, oh, prayer, great, thanks, pray 95 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:16.399 for the people, you know, Like a lot of people 96 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:20.560 think that's actually a trite thing to say. It actually isn't, 97 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:23.959 because I think the only way that we have any 98 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:29.639 power over the things that we literally can't control is prayer. 99 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:32.000 Intention call it which you will, doesn't it's not. I'm 100 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:35.439 not religious, So when I say prayer, I mean literally 101 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:39.439 like putting out the intention, talking to spirits. The more 102 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:41.279 that we don't live in the fear, the more we 103 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:43.120 avoid living in the fear, the more I think we 104 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:47.000 do actually have the opportunity. There is the possibility that 105 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:51.480 we can change the vibration of the frequency and the vibration. 106 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:55.000 So I don't think that it's actually as I don't 107 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.560 think that prayer is just words. I think it actually 108 00:05:57.560 --> 00:05:59.000 has a lot more meaning than that. 109 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.519 And actually I always like to bring up whenever you 110 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.079 think about prayer or faith or anything like that, it 111 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:08.720 doesn't always necessarily have to be tied to religion. But 112 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.079 just speaking on faith for a second, there was this 113 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:14.480 guy wrote one of the most popular books of all 114 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.839 time called Think and Grow Rich Napoleon Hill, And whenever 115 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:19.639 I read that book. I was reading it because I 116 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:21.319 was going into real estate and I was trying to 117 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:24.360 get into the mindset of a millionaire, that whole mentality, right, 118 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.560 And one of the one of the awesome parts of 119 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:29.360 the book is where he starts talking about faith. He 120 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:31.720 waited until basically the end of the book. He got 121 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:34.560 out all the you know, all the business stuff and 122 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:36.800 the business acumen and all that kind of stuff out 123 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:39.120 in the front, and towards the end he started talking 124 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:41.040 about faith and he goes, now, I'm not a religious man, 125 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:45.199 but I use faith all the time. And essentially, like 126 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:50.319 the idea of all right, I'm going like, instead of oh, 127 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.519 I hope that I can be rich or I wish 128 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:54.759 that I could be rich, He's like, no, I'm going 129 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:57.240 to be rich. Like that's the the level of faith 130 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.879 that you have to have within yourself, within your within 131 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.959 in the universe. And there's something about that, maybe call 132 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:04.879 it the law of attraction or whatever, but you're just 133 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:07.839 putting yourself in that vibration to allow it to happen. 134 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.639 Because if you're somebody that's always in lack and you know, 135 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.319 all you know is another bad thing happening to me. 136 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:16.839 What else is new? Like, if you're that kind of person, 137 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.560 then that's what you're going to attrack. You You attract 138 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:21.600 what you put out essentially, And he was talking about 139 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:23.800 that shit back in the sixties, you know. I mean, 140 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:25.680 he's not the first ever talk about it, but just 141 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:28.959 as far as business mentality goes, tying that in, I 142 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:30.199 thought that was pretty interesting. 143 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:33.079 Yeah, I heard that today too. Again. I've not heard 144 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:36.040 it for the first time, but I heard again that 145 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.959 story about Neville Goddard and I think he was talking 146 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.439 about I think it was Bermuda where he's like said 147 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:45.800 to his whoever that like mentor guy was that he 148 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.519 hung around, and he said like, I want to go 149 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:53.160 to Bermuda and the guy goes, stop it. You're already 150 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:56.000 you're in Bermuda. And he's like, stop saying that. Just 151 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:57.519 you're in Bermuda. I don't want to hear another word 152 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:00.639 about it. And according to the story, he's like slammed 153 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:01.839 the door in his face and was like, no, you're 154 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:06.160 already there. And then he got a call from like 155 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:08.120 some family member that was like, Hey, we're going to 156 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:09.800 do a family trip to Bermuda, and so we got 157 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:13.040 you a ticket or something of that nature. So all week, 158 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:15.319 I've been kind of going stopping myself, and I'm on 159 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:19.720 like a thirty day personal challenge to change my language. 160 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.319 I even said like, oh I have. I was telling 161 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.199 my roommate, Oh, I have to teach a class to 162 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:26.720 voiceover class tonight and then I have to do a podcast, 163 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:28.759 and I was like, no, no, wait, Well I actually 164 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.040 really love doing this and I love teaching. So I 165 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:33.120 was like, no, no, wait, I get to teach a 166 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:35.720 class and I get to be on this amazing podcast, 167 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.879 and yes, they're on our to do list, but they're 168 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:43.240 things that are actually exciting and fun. So even just 169 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.039 the way that I've been speaking of like oh I wish, 170 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.519 no I have, I have, Like, Okay, so right now 171 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:52.840 it looks like I it looks as if I don't 172 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:57.360 have money for rent, but I do. It's just I'll 173 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.240 see it in a couple of days. It's going to 174 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:02.200 be there. It's gonna come in. I don't know how, 175 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:02.799 but it's coming. 176 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:06.039 And just kind of, yeah, it does if you keep 177 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:09.519 that proper mentality too, you know. And I what I 178 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.840 love too is you know, I'll I've gotten into the 179 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.519 practice of giving myself a terror reading per day, just 180 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.320 a one card draw almost like how some people use 181 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.759 astrology or they check in, you know, with a prayer 182 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:25.679 or whatever. Right, I've I've gotten into the practice of 183 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:27.799 just pulling a one card how's my day gonna go? 184 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:30.720 Show me? And and I feel like that is so 185 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:34.039 powerful too, because not only does it kind of set 186 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.919 you up, but there's certain like surprises where you'll get 187 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.720 a card and you'll be like, how how is that 188 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:41.840 gonna work out? You know, and like in what way 189 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.279 is this going to be expressed? And lately I've actually 190 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:49.240 been getting like a lot of like Queen of Pencacles, 191 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:52.200 King of Pencacles, Ace of Pentacles. And anytime you get 192 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.679 like one of those Pencacle cards, it usually means more 193 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:57.600 chetta cheese is coming your way, right, Yeah, And so 194 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:01.440 I was like, I mean, I'm not hurting by any means, 195 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.759 but it would be I would always welcome in more, right, 196 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:07.759 and so and I was like, but I wonder, like 197 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:10.279 how that's going to work. I don't know, maybe I 198 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:13.519 drew the card wrong or was I not in alignment 199 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:15.919 whenever I did it, So you start questioning yourself, you know. 200 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:21.399 And now I got this whole like plan of moving 201 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:24.320 somewhere else that's going to going to allow me to 202 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.279 save up a lot more money. So it's not even 203 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.679 necessarily that I'll be making so much more, but it's 204 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.519 just that I won't be spending so much. So it 205 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:32.679 kind of is giving yourself a raise whenever you're not 206 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:34.440 having to spend so much to live, you know. 207 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:39.440 Yeah, exactly, Yeah. I'm literally just correcting myself all week long. 208 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.120 I don't want to be untruthful and walk around telling 209 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.799 everybody my delusions because then they might say, oh, that 210 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:49.639 really happened, you actually won the lottery, and then I'll 211 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:53.639 be spreading lies. But I'm trying to just my roommate's 212 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.080 spiritual fairy. So we just say things like, oh my gosh, 213 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:58.919 did you get that ten thousand dollars check in the mail? 214 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.679 I did, girl, And just kind of have someone to 215 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:03.679 be delusional with you, because I think it really helps. 216 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:06.759 And I just had someone on my podcast where we 217 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:09.600 talked about that and just how it's it's already in you. 218 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:13.399 It's just jumping into the timeline or none of the 219 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:18.000 vibration of it's already there. It's just a possibility. But 220 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:21.320 you kind of have to get your vibration right where 221 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:23.879 that frequency is to line up with it. That's all 222 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:24.240 it is. 223 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:27.600 You know, adya You ever noticed that really successful people 224 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:29.720 seem to have things just kind of given to them 225 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.519 or things just continuously fall into their lap, and it's like, 226 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.320 what is it about this guy? And really, all it 227 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:37.080 is it's not so much that they already have a 228 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.759 lot of money. It's more so that they've already embodied 229 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:43.759 the being that that gets a lot of money or 230 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:45.000 things come to them. 231 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:47.559 And then more the more you receive, the more you're like, 232 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:50.480 ah see, I am that person and that Yeah, it's 233 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:53.720 I'm trying to put myself back in the mindset of like, oh, 234 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:57.240 there was a day when like everything was booming and 235 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:59.240 I just remember thinking, I can't believe it. I can't 236 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:01.159 believe it. Like I'm making a full time living as 237 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:03.559 a voice actor, Like who thought this was going to happen? 238 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.120 And you know, pandemic happened. Lots of things have happened 239 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.320 since then, and that kind of derailed me, like losing 240 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:14.320 my voice and stuff. But uh, you know, I'm like, no, no, 241 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:16.039 but I did it once. I just have to remember 242 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:19.120 what it feels like because otherwise if you're always the 243 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.960 guy that's like, ah, slipping through my fingers. Then you 244 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:24.960 identify with that guy or person you know. 245 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.720 But if you only identify how hard it's going to 246 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:30.639 be or all the negative aspects of that, and then 247 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:31.639 that's what you're going to see. 248 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.320 And so it's really it's really simple. 249 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:36.080 It's really simple, but it's not easy, you know, to 250 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:38.120 kind of flip that around exactly. 251 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:42.039 Yeah. Oh, I also wanted to ask because this is 252 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:43.720 like off topic, but we're going to I know it's 253 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:47.279 on topic, is that, Jonathan? I had asked you before 254 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:49.799 I got on the I heard like my ear was 255 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:52.799 ringing really loudly before I came on here earlier. And 256 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.240 when I when that happens, I can tell when it's 257 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:59.360 just a ringing ear versus like a spirit and it 258 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:02.519 might even just be a high frequency energy or whatever. 259 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:04.919 And I'll give you an example of that in a bit. 260 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:07.919 But because it kind of something blew my mind in 261 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.039 that regard. But so now I'm like, Okay, I heard 262 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:14.320 this like loud frequency in my ear today. So what 263 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.279 I do when I hear a loud frequency is I say, oh, 264 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:19.320 high spirit, I mean, and then I just say, who's there? 265 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.000 And I heard Rick, Ranger Rick, So I just wanted 266 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:23.879 to run that by anybody to see if anybody has 267 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.919 someone named Rick on the other side. I'm not sure 268 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:31.679 exactly where that's going yet, but Nick, do you no, Okay, 269 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:33.519 I just wanted to run it by anybody in case 270 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:36.360 there was a soul named Rick on the other side. 271 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.879 But I'll get more sometimes it just it might have 272 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.600 to do with something else. I know Ranger Rick was 273 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:44.320 a magazine back in the day, but you guys are 274 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:45.960 all too young to know that. 275 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.519 Well, look, we have a bunch of listeners on the 276 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:51.720 other side then aren't tuned into the live show. So 277 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:55.360 maybe somebody across the world. Maybe that connects to somebody 278 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:55.840 out there. 279 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.840 Yeah, it feels like if it was Ranger Rick, it 280 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.480 would it be somebody that would literally work in park services. 281 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.799 So and I'm not one hundred percent sure about that. 282 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:08.879 So I'll just we'll kind of go into some reading stuff. 283 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:13.879 I'll just kind of but but and I just wanted 284 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.480 to share something before because sometimes if I just keep talking, 285 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:18.159 then more stuff will PLoP in. 286 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:19.720 But I. 287 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:24.720 Taught a mediumship class, which I do with my friend Nikki, 288 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:30.720 and she had us do photo readings, and I consider 289 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.279 myself not to be good at reading photos. That's like, 290 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:34.960 show me a picture and then tell me who the 291 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.480 soul is and how they passed and all that, because 292 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:39.639 to me, when I look at a photo, it gives 293 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.440 me too much of a story in my head, like 294 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:44.320 because I can kind of see what type of person 295 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.919 they are, and so I like not to see anything 296 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:50.279 or know anything. But we did the exercise and I 297 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:52.480 wrote down a whole bunch of stuff. I said to her, 298 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:54.600 to the whole class, I actually suck at photo readings, said, 299 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.000 don't look at me. But I read back a lot 300 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.679 of that. It was a photo of Nikki's grandma, and 301 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:02.759 I wrote down all these things. And I wrote down 302 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:09.440 Gwendolyn and Sondra and Wilma. And then she's like, okay, 303 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.559 well those are all my aunts. So like yes, I'm like, okay, well, 304 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:14.840 I guess I got something. But to me, it was 305 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:17.159 I think because she was sitting there, like because her 306 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:19.919 energy was with me, not just a photo. Right, So 307 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:22.759 that all checked out, but she kind of didn't claim 308 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.279 some other stuff. After we got off the call, she's like, 309 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:29.720 I'm trying to think of how to tell this. It's 310 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:33.559 a personal story. So I'm just gonna say, actually, I 311 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:36.279 think the name was Rick. It was something like I 312 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:38.080 just kept hearing no, it wasn't, it was something else. 313 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:39.759 But I kept hearing this name over and over and 314 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.080 over and she's not claiming it, and I was like, okay, 315 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.840 I'll just keep giving you more information. And then I 316 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:47.480 just said it the name again, and she said, hold on, 317 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.000 let me just close the door so that my kids 318 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:50.639 can't hear this. And I won't say what it was 319 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.960 because it was really uber personal, but it was something 320 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:57.080 about that something traumatic that had happened to her and 321 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:01.159 her grandmother hadn't basically gotten her back her. Her grandmother 322 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.120 basically had not like believed that it happened. And so 323 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:09.240 at that moment, I thought, Okay, she's wanting to apologize 324 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:11.080 for that, because she would because I'm reading. I'm doing 325 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:12.960 this reading and she I keep hearing this name over 326 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:14.440 and over and over and over and over, and she 327 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:17.159 keeps being like, nope, nope, nope, and it was the 328 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.759 name of this like character in the in the story. 329 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.639 And right at that moment, I'm like, oh my god, 330 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:26.360 she wants to apologize. And my ear started ringing. It 331 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:28.320 was like this pressure built up in my ear that 332 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:31.200 was so loud it felt like my head was gonna explode. 333 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:34.039 And it was like loud, loud ringing, and then I 334 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.320 got chills. All it was like somebody just like moved 335 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.000 all the way through me. And I go, she wants 336 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:40.720 to say she's sorry about whatever, and she goes, oh 337 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:42.759 my god. I was meditating two days ago and she 338 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:45.360 came to me and said that same thing. So now 339 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:47.600 when I hear ringing in my ear, I was normally 340 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:51.120 it's like not that it was so important. It was 341 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:55.080 such a like major important thing that her grandma had 342 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:58.600 to say because it needed major healing. And I've never 343 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:03.480 gotten such a physical, go visceral like like I like 344 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.680 that ringing was like I could feel it. I don't 345 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:08.279 know how they do how they do that, but I 346 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:10.720 guess it's like the energy moving through your body and 347 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:13.960 stimulating your ear drum or whatever. So when I get 348 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:17.920 a feeling like that, I just I heard a ringing 349 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:19.240 and I and then I said, who's there? And I 350 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:22.759 heard Rick rangeer Rick. So again, if anyone can claim that, 351 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:27.200 you can let us know. I would need more than that, obviously, 352 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:32.920 because as an evidential medium the evidence is in showing 353 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:35.039 me something that there's no way that I could possibly 354 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.759 know other than just you can't just come through and 355 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:40.759 say I love you. You've got to say I love you, 356 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:44.759 and you're using that end table that I gave you 357 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:47.119 or built for you, and then then I then I know, okay, 358 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:51.039 it's coming from them and not just from my own memory. 359 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:54.039 So first I just wanted to let you Yeah, first, 360 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:55.599 want to let you speak, but also just wanted to 361 00:17:55.640 --> 00:18:00.480 see if there's anything for like the panel here. Sometimes 362 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:02.279 I like to write and I don't have anything with me, 363 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:05.119 But is there anything that you want to say before 364 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:07.200 I give it a go? 365 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:09.839 Are you talking to us or like the spirit over 366 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:15.039 the okay? Just yeah, well, I mean we're kind of 367 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:17.640 just ready to take the training wheels off and hit 368 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:19.519 it at one hundred miles an hour. Let's get weird. 369 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.440 Yeah, let's get weird and see what happens, because sometimes 370 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:24.839 it's better when there's just more pressure and it tends 371 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:29.319 to be easier with the group. So okay, uh, first, okay, 372 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:31.200 the first thing that I'm feeling is that there's somebody 373 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:33.279 it may even be in this direct room. I could 374 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.240 be like, you know, Pete. Uh is it? How do 375 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:38.359 you say it? Asia? 376 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:38.920 Asia? 377 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:41.680 I mean Asia, that makes much more sense. Thank you, 378 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:47.240 Asia Pete for it. Kyle Nick, there feels you all 379 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.200 look pretty young to me, but does one if you 380 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.160 have a father that's on the other side, and if 381 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:56.240 what we can do too is like raise your hand. 382 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:59.160 If like one thing, this can be like a father 383 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:01.920 or grandfather. And I think I heard like the name. 384 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:04.880 See I'm hearing Rick and Dick at the same time, 385 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.279 so I kind of want to say this would be Richard, 386 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:09.240 but it's I'm wondering if it's the same person. It 387 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:12.720 feels like Richard, but they go by Dick, which I know. 388 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.160 Can anybody take that off the bat? No, Okay, that's 389 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:21.640 all right, I'm gonna keep going. So it feels as 390 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.319 though there's a father. I do feel like this father 391 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:29.680 would have passed pretty young, like in fifties, like fifties 392 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:32.000 or early sixties. I definitely feel like this is like 393 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.839 an outdoorsman kind of person. I feel like there's a 394 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.200 fishing pole, so this could even be a grandfather. I 395 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:39.559 hope it's It could even be, but I don't know 396 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:41.720 if it's Bob again, if it's Bob again. But I 397 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:46.519 definitely felt like this is somebody who's who's showing me 398 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:50.960 like standing out in the woods fishing like a fisherman, 399 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:55.920 somebody who camps, somebody who drives a truck, but nobody 400 00:19:55.920 --> 00:20:01.640 has the name Dick, do they specifically? Okay, let me 401 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.160 just kind of go into a little bit more Yeah, Okay, 402 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:05.759 what was someone going to say? 403 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:08.240 Oh no, I was just going to say, whenever that happens, 404 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:10.400 I want to know the mental process of what you're 405 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:11.000 thinking about. 406 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:14.279 So what First? I kind of I ask who's there? 407 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:16.559 And then I feel immediately like the knowing that there's 408 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:18.759 a father on the other side, and it's a father 409 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:20.599 that was not older. So I might even want to say, 410 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:22.960 like sixty, but he's sort of a young sixty. He's 411 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.400 not like a professional suit guy. He's more of an 412 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:28.799 outdoorsy guy. And I'm going to ask him for specifics too. 413 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:32.680 This is somebody who would camp, who would fish. He 414 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:34.480 does have a smoker's laugh, so I feel that he's 415 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:39.880 somebody who smokes like heavily. He also is giving me 416 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:45.720 the feeling of like heart related. It might have been 417 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:47.680 like a sudden kind of passing from a heart attack. 418 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:51.839 Can anyone claim this, and if we can't, what often 419 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:55.799 happens is that somebody's who's not in the room or not. 420 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:59.200 Do we have the ability for people to chime in? Yeah, yeah, 421 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:01.000 I mean from the outside. 422 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:03.799 If this is describing anybody, you'all feel free to unmute 423 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:05.640 or just feel freezing or whatever. 424 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:08.160 I'm feeling sort of like a choking feel like like 425 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.839 I'm having trouble breathing, and like my heart, it feels 426 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:13.559 as though this would have been my heart's kind of 427 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:15.319 pounding really hard, So I feel like it's somebody who 428 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:16.839 would have died of a sudden heart attack. And when 429 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:21.240 I say dad, it could be stepdad, it could be grandfather, 430 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:24.279 could be friend's dad. So just keep that in mind 431 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:27.240 as well, because sometimes spirit will come in for another 432 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.920 person knowing that you're here, but that they might need 433 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.240 to say something else. I'm also feeling like numbness in 434 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:35.079 my wrists, and that often means like a stroke, So 435 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:37.279 it kind of just feels like there's this feeling of 436 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:39.319 not being able to move, like on the top and 437 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:43.759 so like the chest it feels compressed like I'm having 438 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:48.119 trouble breathing. And whoever this is also is bringing through 439 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.880 a feeling of like remorse about not being there, like 440 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:56.839 I wasn't necessarily the most present father or grandfather. Does 441 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.000 this resonate with anybody not me? You may have to, Okay, 442 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.200 I'm not going to stress about it. I'm just gonna 443 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:08.720 kind of know that, like, uh, I'm just gonna see. 444 00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.519 Nora chimed in. She said, oh shit, it really is 445 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:14.640 an early meta episode. Happy birthday to me, it literally is. 446 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:16.519 My birthday today, Happy birthday. 447 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:23.640 No, happy birthday, Hi Norah, happy birthday. Okay. So what 448 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:25.759 I might do is sometimes the thing is somebody might 449 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.720 later be like, this is somebody I feel like this 450 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:31.960 person woodworking is like something that they do with their hand. 451 00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:34.960 I mean, obviously they work with their hands woodworking, but 452 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:37.240 there's also the sense of like not really being around 453 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:39.680 very much for their kids. So and it feels like 454 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:42.759 they have a daughter and a son, and it feels 455 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:45.759 as though there's something like artery related, Like it feels 456 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:48.400 like somebody that didn't take care of himself and had 457 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:51.039 like high cholesterol and like blocked arteries and that kind 458 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:54.000 of thing. So if it's not resonating right now, I'm 459 00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:57.200 just going to trust that. I'm just looking at making 460 00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:58.839 sure I'm not missing anything in the chat. I'm getting 461 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:01.680 like tingles all over my body, so this may be 462 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:03.960 something that comes up later, which kind of sucks. I 463 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:08.480 feeling it so strongly though, I'm feeling like my heart's pounding, 464 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.279 like like something's wrong with my heart. I'm not able 465 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:14.400 to breathe. And again, this person's kind of saying I 466 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:16.960 wasn't really the father that I should have been. It 467 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:20.480 was like he kind of just like had a kid 468 00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:24.200 and then had this very young, didn't really realize that 469 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:25.880 he could have been there. More often it's a guy 470 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:28.680 who's sort of like out just not really wanting to grow. 471 00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:32.240 You can chime in, please, Nora, does it ring to Okay, 472 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:34.759 thank you Nora, I appreciate who I just got chills 473 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.200 all the way at my leg. Okay, uh, do you 474 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:39.880 want to? You don't have to be on camera if 475 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:42.319 you don't want to, but do you want it? Can 476 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:44.240 you tell me, like what part does resonate? Don't give 477 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.160 me too much information, just like I'm getting the. 478 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:49.519 Yeah, yes, ma'am. 479 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:52.119 Oh, my happy birthday. 480 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:58.720 Thank you, thank you very much. Honestly kind of rings 481 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:04.559 to my dad so much. The word working stuff okay, 482 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:11.599 but he did recently have his eighth minor stroke. 483 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:14.759 Okay, but he's is he alive? 484 00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:21.960 He is alive, but I have the feeling he is close. 485 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:28.039 Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, that's very possible. I could 486 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:31.920 be paid. This could be something psychic. Now the woodworking stuff, 487 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:33.400 I'm not sure. You know, I'm not sure where that 488 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:35.960 fits in. But uh, and I don't want to make 489 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:38.200 it fit. But I do feel as though, and this 490 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:41.119 is your biologue. If if it's too personal, just stop me. 491 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:45.240 But this is your biological father, yes, ma'am. Okay. And 492 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:47.680 is he but he's currently like awaken alive, like he's 493 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:48.680 not in a coma or anything. 494 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:50.680 He is, yes, ma'am. 495 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:53.279 Okay, Just so I make sure. Because I also wonder 496 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.200 if it might be like his mom coming through or 497 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.279 something of the other, because there does there's Is he 498 00:24:57.319 --> 00:24:58.680 sort of an outdoorsy. 499 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:00.759 Kind of a person, Yeah, definitely not. 500 00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:03.680 Okay, then maybe then I don't think this would be him. 501 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:05.720 But let's just kind of stay on that path because 502 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:09.160 I could be jumbling up other other things as well. 503 00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:11.920 I am picking up, like I said, like tingles all 504 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:13.640 over my body. I am picking up something about a 505 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.559 stroke heart attack. It feels like paralysis in my chest 506 00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:21.960 and in my arms, and that would be interesting. If 507 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:24.640 he's not on the other side. It's possible, but I 508 00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:26.279 just I don't want to force it. But let's just 509 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.039 kind of see where that goes. Is there somebody too, 510 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.799 like a family member on the other side. I'm going 511 00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:33.440 to go with you, Nora, just to see because it 512 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:35.440 might kind of help me connect better. I also have 513 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:37.960 the feeling of somebody with the name Rose on the 514 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:39.880 other side. Would that be like his mom or some 515 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:40.799 one of your grandmother's. 516 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:49.319 Oh well, to kind of split on that. My mother 517 00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:55.000 in law, that's her name, however, she is alive, okay, 518 00:25:55.039 --> 00:26:01.359 But my birth father is literally haunted by my deceased grandmother. 519 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.839 Oh my gosh. Okay, so Rose is okay? Wait, so 520 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.720 Rose is your mother in law, mother in law? Okay, 521 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:12.519 got it, got it. But she's alive, yes, ma'am. And 522 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:18.559 then Rose is your partner's mother, yes, ma'am. And then 523 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.599 who is the person who's haunted. Who's haunted by the 524 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:22.319 grand law. 525 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:27.559 My birth father, who is currently alive. 526 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:28.279 Okay. 527 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:34.480 So the death of my grandmother, his mother was a 528 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.400 very traumatic experience for him. 529 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.319 Okay, let me. I'm just trying to figure out why 530 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:44.400 we're talking about Rose. Does Rose also have a U 531 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:46.839 Does she have a partner that's or like a husband 532 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:51.240 that's on the other side or no? Okay, why are 533 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.640 we talking about Rose? And is Rose in good health? 534 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:54.880 Is she doing all right right now? 535 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.319 He's in good health, yes, ma'am, Okay, it is good. 536 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:02.519 We're staying about the woodworking. 537 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:05.680 Okay, yeah, my father in law. 538 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:10.480 Okay, her husband, he's alive, but he has done a 539 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:11.400 lot of woodworking. 540 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:13.839 Okay, let me just kind of lean into that. Because 541 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:16.920 they're alive. Usually what this means is somebody's trying to 542 00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.960 get through to them from the other side. If it's 543 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:25.640 like Rose and woodworking, is there anything about I don't 544 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.079 know who the soul is that's like the fishermen outdoorsman. 545 00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:29.920 It might be somebody completely different. We've got a lot 546 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.480 of people here, so it's very possible. But if we're 547 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:37.920 talking about Rose and her husband being in woodworking sibling, 548 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.880 this does feel like I do kind of feel and 549 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:43.799 they're not the ones that are haunted, but I do 550 00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:48.039 feel like there's do you know, like their parents, is 551 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:49.799 there somebody on that side of the family that would 552 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:55.759 be like a camping person, like fisherman, somebody of that nature, 553 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:56.920 like on that side of the family. 554 00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:02.440 Not all okay, on that side of the family. However, 555 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.880 my my family's a little complicated. 556 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:08.920 That sometimes happens and then it. 557 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:16.359 Yeah, my grandpa, who is my birth father's father, is 558 00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:21.079 exactly that woods the outdoorsman, fishermen. 559 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:25.240 Who go on, go on, I'm sorry, Oh you're good. 560 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:32.240 Sorry, he did have a lot of regret over certain 561 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.200 situations in my birth house. 562 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:42.200 Gotcha, And is he on the other side as well? Okay, 563 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:43.799 let me just kind of go in that direction too, 564 00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:45.599 because I feel like there's like all these different things 565 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:47.759 I'm getting like tingles all over, So it just might 566 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.079 be a bunch of different people kind of coming in, 567 00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.359 especially because it's your birthday, which would make sense that 568 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.920 you'd be getting kind of love on your birthday. So yeah, 569 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.440 let me just kind of go with that because I'm 570 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:01.759 not going to try to fit you can you can 571 00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:03.160 as long as it makes sense to you. I don't 572 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:04.839 need to know, like you know, I guess I don't 573 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.799 need to figure all that stuff out. But I'm feeling 574 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.160 like there is there is a reference and who it'll 575 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:13.240 all come together. It always does. There is a reference 576 00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:15.319 to Rose, there is a reference to someone in woodworking. 577 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:17.880 There is a reference to this gentleman that's like on 578 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:22.559 the other side that would be like a camping outdoors guy, fisherman, 579 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.279 and who comes through with remorse about sort of not 580 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:27.640 being the father that he could have been, or at 581 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:29.480 least not protecting his kids the way he could have. 582 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.240 Does that make sense to you with him, yes, ma'am. Okay. 583 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.440 And were you here? Sorry? Were you here when I 584 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.440 was asking if you had someone named if anyone had 585 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.160 someone named Rick, because I heard ranger Rick earlier or Dick. 586 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.200 But I think you were here for that. Oh no, ma'am. 587 00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:46.759 I had just popped in about ten minutes ago. 588 00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:49.119 Okay. Does the name Rick mean anything to you? 589 00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:50.680 Oh no, ma'a. 590 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:55.359 I'm sorry. Okay, that's okay, Okay. So it feels as 591 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:57.519 though I kind of want to go with Grandpa real. 592 00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:59.440 I kind of want to lean in that direction, although 593 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.480 it's still kind of of feeling like there's someone now 594 00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:04.599 I'm feeling somebody that has like stomach I'm having stomach 595 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.240 pain that would have like stomach cancer or stomach lining cancer. 596 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:10.759 Does that mean anything to you? With your loved ones 597 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.720 on the other side, and don't worry if it doesn't, 598 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:13.599 it's okay to say no. 599 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:20.839 It absolutely does. My grandpa he died from cancer that 600 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.119 had originated in the bowels and spread up. 601 00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.839 That's what I'm feeling like, stomach cancer feels right. So 602 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:28.839 I do feel like we have Dad and we'll figure 603 00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:31.720 out the other stuff if it's important later, but right now, 604 00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.599 I just feel like this is fisherman guy. I don't 605 00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.599 know what the name Dick or Rick has, but I 606 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.319 almost now kind of was leaning towards it might be 607 00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:41.920 someone who went by Dick, which I know no one 608 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:43.759 does anymore because no one wants to be named that. 609 00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:45.720 But back in the day it was like a very 610 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:47.759 more of a common kind of a name. And don't 611 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.039 tell me what it is, because I'm going to see 612 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.519 if he can bring it into me. But yeah, so 613 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.359 this is Grandpa. And again just so for reference, again, 614 00:30:54.480 --> 00:31:04.039 Grandpa is your bio dad's father or your step Okay, yeah, 615 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.119 but did you not meet him in like before you 616 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.960 were did he pass before you were born? 617 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:11.279 Oh no, ma'am. 618 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.880 He passed about. 619 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:17.720 Twelve thirteen years ago. 620 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.160 Okay, got it. I kept seeing like the number like seven. 621 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.400 I don't know if this is his age now that 622 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.240 I'm at first, like, when I saw this guy, he 623 00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:28.400 looked younger, like sixty, but I just asked for more information, 624 00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:30.000 and I'm getting like, I don't know if you would 625 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.000 know this, but like seventy three, and I couldn't figure 626 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.799 out if that was a year like nineteen seventy three 627 00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:36.319 or if that was like his age. Do you happen 628 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:37.880 to remember how old he was when he passed? 629 00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.519 Ah, seventy three, that does sound. 630 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.200 About right, Okay, I feel like seventy three, and I'm 631 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.240 getting like chills right here, and then I feel like 632 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.240 major major chills on my scalp. So it feels really 633 00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.000 important that he talks to his son. And does does 634 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:54.720 your dad have a sister as well? 635 00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:57.119 No, ma'am, only child. 636 00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:58.680 Okay. Do you know if they had like a sister 637 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:00.240 that would be on the other side, or someone that's 638 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.759 like a sister that would be like a niece of 639 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:05.480 his or something, because he's addressing like a boy and 640 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:10.680 a girl. And does your dad also have a brother? No, ma'am, 641 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.240 it's just your dad. It's just your dad, Okay. Because 642 00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.119 I kept seeing a boy and a girl, and then 643 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.160 there might be other children that are like nieces nephews 644 00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:20.039 that did they all play together? Like? Did they all 645 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:21.960 they grow up in the same house? Are they all together? 646 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:24.559 Ah? 647 00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:28.039 Not sure about nieces or nephews. 648 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:33.599 Oh yeah, go ahead unless you have kids. Do you 649 00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:34.200 have children? 650 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:35.240 Yes? 651 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.240 I do, two girls? Okay, And that's not what Okay. 652 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:40.000 I'll just keep going with it because I'm feeling like 653 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.319 his big reason for coming through is really apologizing for 654 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:47.920 like not being consistently there and kind of being in 655 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:53.279 his own selfishness, like not being able to be consistent. 656 00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.599 Was he waiting for I can't quite tell. Usually if 657 00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.920 somebody's a drinker, I get really dizzy. But do you 658 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.799 know did he drink beer a lot? 659 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:02.279 No? 660 00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.680 He didn't. Is there somebody that did? Because I'm seeing 661 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.279 like Marlborough or something like it. Was there somebody who 662 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.039 would have drank Marlborough beer? I mean sorry, not Marlborough. 663 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:16.200 Sorry not. That's Marlboro's cigarettes, which I used to smoke. 664 00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.319 I'm trying to see what this brand is. It's like 665 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:21.680 a gold can and I don't know what. I haven't 666 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:23.359 had beer in such a long time, I don't remember 667 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:26.920 what it is. But no, what were you going to 668 00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:27.640 say about the beer? 669 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.839 It does relate to somebody else, not on that side 670 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:40.759 of the family, somebody who And if if this rings 671 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.640 to anybody else listening, I'd like to hear that too. 672 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:52.880 Yeah, the beer is what is it something? It's Miller. 673 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.400 It's Miller. Thank you. I'm like seeing the I'm seeing 674 00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.799 the thing and I'm seeing the m and I keep 675 00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.200 wanting to say Marlboro, but it's Miller. So like, if 676 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.759 any Miller beer is specifically important, or it's somebody's last name, 677 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.799 please let me know. Does that resonate with your grandfather 678 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:11.679 coming through to sort of apologize for not being the 679 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.920 most consistent father. It just feels like he's in and 680 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.239 then he's out. 681 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:22.239 He definitely would have felt like not being consistent enough 682 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.719 and raising his child my dad. 683 00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:28.400 Yeah, I just kind of felt like he wanted to 684 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:32.280 apologize to your dad because he understands that he didn't 685 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.280 spend the time that he really needed to and that 686 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.679 your dad kind of, I don't say suffered but literally 687 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:39.719 suffered for that. I mean I will say suffered for 688 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.119 that in the sense that he might have kind of 689 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.880 gotten off track a little bit just because he didn't 690 00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:48.800 really ever feel totally safe and loved by his dad. 691 00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:50.199 I don't know if he ever expressed that to you. 692 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.440 Uh, he hadn't, but it could have been something that 693 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:56.880 happened that I didn't see. 694 00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.079 Yeah, it just kind of it felt as though it 695 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.719 did affect. It's like kind of affected the way that 696 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.840 he parented and like the way that it's just sort 697 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.760 of acknowledging like I wasn't quite always there the way 698 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.000 that I should have been. And again, I'm just kind 699 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:11.679 of getting like pain in my chest. But I'm waiting 700 00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:15.039 for him to tell me you knew him in this life? 701 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:16.679 Did you? Yes? 702 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:17.880 Absolutely let me. 703 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:19.559 I want him to show I need him to show 704 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.360 me something. Bracelet. Did he give you like a gold 705 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.440 bracelet at some or do you have a gold bracelet 706 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.119 that would be significant? And if it's not him, was 707 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.079 it a gold bracelet that you would wear or have 708 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.480 been given by dad or someone else that's on the 709 00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.920 other side. It might even be a baby bracelet. Now 710 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.360 that I'm looking at it, it's like a little it's little. 711 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.440 It's like it may not fit you anymore. And if 712 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.320 you don't know, just get back. So a lot of 713 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.679 times after the fact, people come back the next day 714 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.239 and they're like, oh my gosh, I just remembered what 715 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.239 this is. So sometimes just kind of think it. Don't 716 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.519 force it, but if that does make sense to you, 717 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.239 let me know or let Jonathan know or Sean know, 718 00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:57.320 because it does feel like there was something like a 719 00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.440 baby bracelet or something that he would have given to 720 00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.039 you or that you would still have. You still have 721 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.239 your baby bracelet, like a baby brain. It looks like 722 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.760 it has little beads on it or something too, So 723 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:11.760 just think just if that comes up, let me know. 724 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.760 And is there somebody named Cheryl on either in your 725 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:21.480 family or on the other side? No, ma'am okay, anybody 726 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:25.840 else have Cheryl? No? Okay, I'm feeling big chills on 727 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:27.440 my right hand side. So I'm just trying to figure 728 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.440 out if that's all he wanted to say, But again, 729 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.480 I would need more. Steve, I feel like I'm hearing 730 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:36.800 like Stephen. Do you have someone named Stephen on the 731 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:37.679 other side? 732 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:38.400 I don't. 733 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:43.960 Okay, Maybe what's going on is with everybody listening, there's 734 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.800 so many spirits. 735 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.800 Coming Sometimes that sometimes happens, but like if anything comes 736 00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.840 to you later, yeah, you should maybe just want to 737 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:53.800 like edit this part out, so everyone's not bored. But 738 00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.119 the thing is, the process can be kind of slow sometimes, 739 00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.159 or I get a lot of stuff and then I'm 740 00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.400 like I'm not hitting on anything, and then the next 741 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.199 day someone's like, oh my gosh, I just realized that 742 00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.280 was for me. So I don't want to give up 743 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.679 on it. But I just definitely feel like what I 744 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.039 know is like this man has stomach cancer. I feel 745 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:11.920 like he's an outdoorsman. I feel like he just wants 746 00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:13.800 to apologize to his son for not being the best 747 00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:17.480 father he could be. And I would say that he's 748 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.000 wishing you happy birthday, but I only know that because 749 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.960 you told me, and so I can't validate that because 750 00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:24.840 usually when it's a birthday, I see a red balloon 751 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:26.679 and you already I already knew it was your birthday. 752 00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:30.880 But so I also thought I heard like a grandmother 753 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.199 with the name Sophia or something like that. Does anyone 754 00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:36.559 have Sylvia or Sophia a grandmother in this room. I'm 755 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.199 also wondering if it's for somebody else, and like the greater. 756 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:41.639 Somebody's listening to this shit the next day, like, oh. 757 00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:44.280 My god, why was I? So I don't want to 758 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.360 freak out about it because this has happened before. I'm like, 759 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:50.400 I'm not something's not happening here. But then this I 760 00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.280 had this woman that was like no, no, no, no, no, 761 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.239 no no. And I was like, oh my god, I'm 762 00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:55.559 just going to give her a refund because I think 763 00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.119 that sucked. And then the next day her other daughter 764 00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.559 wrote to me and was like, she is I told 765 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.079 her mom literally everything was literally I'm not saying that 766 00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.360 this is you, but there are things you may not know. 767 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.719 But she was like every single thing. And then she 768 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.599 talked to the spirit's husband and he wrote to me 769 00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:13.719 and was like, I can go off checklist and just 770 00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.119 tell you everything. He's like, you said that there was 771 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.400 a blanket in the coffin and that there was a 772 00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.159 white rose in the coffin. Grandma said, no, he's like 773 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.599 my daughter put I said, it's something like her cozy blanket, 774 00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:26.159 and they said, that's what we used to call it. 775 00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:28.280 It's her cozy blanket. And we put it in there, 776 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.800 and her daughter drew and my daughter actually drew a 777 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:33.639 picture of a white rose and put it in the coffin. 778 00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:37.400 But I guess grandma didn't know that. So we'll just 779 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.840 keep talking because sometimes something like remember last time, it 780 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:41.480 just kind of sort of came in organically. 781 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:49.519 And all of this is that you like you're already proven, 782 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:51.559 you know what I'm saying, Like you proved it to 783 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.159 us that you were on something. That's why we're just 784 00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:55.599 like watching you cook, you know. 785 00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:58.920 Yeah, And it's funny. It's a process. Yeah, it's like 786 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.800 it's such a process of Okay, now I feel like 787 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.119 pain in my stomach. So I know this person has 788 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.360 stomach cancer, and I know this person has trouble expressing 789 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.440 their feelings like Grandpa. To me feels like somebody that 790 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:14.239 would have had trouble expressing emotion in this life. Not 791 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.880 that he's a bad guy, just like he's not gonna 792 00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:19.679 be the guy to say, hey, son, like let me 793 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.599 talk about this with you. And but there is this 794 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.719 feeling of like I really want to tell him I'm sorry. 795 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.480 I love him, I'm so sorry that I wasn't the 796 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:29.960 father that I should have been. And now I realize 797 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.159 the time that I kind of wasted. Do you know 798 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:38.840 if that was his personality? Nora, yes, ma'am, okay was 799 00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.320 it feels like he's loving, like he's caring, and you know, 800 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:43.960 you wouldn't say that he's like a cold, but he 801 00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:45.679 just is not going to be the first person to 802 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:49.159 step up and share his feelings. And now it's like, oh, 803 00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.039 why did I do that? Like, why didn't I just 804 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.000 say how I felt? Why didn't I let him know 805 00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:55.079 I loved him? And it just feel like his pride 806 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.079 kind of got in the way of really getting vulnerable 807 00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.239 with his son. So I don't know if that's something 808 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.320 you'd talk to your dad about her, if he's even spiritual. 809 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:05.280 But that's kind of the feeling that I had. Was 810 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.920 just wanting to to say, I wish that I had 811 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:09.519 been more open. I wish that I had just said 812 00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:10.079 how I felt. 813 00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:18.840 Yeah, and that that definitely rings true. There were they, 814 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:26.039 my grandma and my birth dad. They were very verbally 815 00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:31.199 abusive towards each other, and they all three of them 816 00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:37.280 lived in a hoarder house altogether. I even have a 817 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:41.599 podcast myself talking about my experience living with them. And 818 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:47.280 my grandpa was always the fella to try to keep 819 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:53.360 the peace but not get too involved in it, the 820 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.719 sweet kind of man who was a lack of a 821 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:02.239 better term of the bit of a pushover when it came. 822 00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.400 To yeah, it sounded like he's very passive just in 823 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.480 that like I didn't get that he's a mean person 824 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:12.519 or anything. It's more just I don't feel comfortable getting vulnerable. 825 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:13.880 I'm not going to rock the boat. I'm not going 826 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.760 to get overly, you know. Emotional is just how he 827 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:20.559 came through as like he loves his son, but it's 828 00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.440 there's something and I yeah, I just also I'm still 829 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:25.840 so curious about the woodworking and the Rose because I 830 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.199 feel like that might be something for them and they 831 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.679 haven't lost I would assume you would have known this, 832 00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:34.840 but like your partner doesn't have a sibling on the 833 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:36.920 other side or anything like that, because it feels like 834 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:38.679 it's for both of them. And that's why I wondered, 835 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.760 like they didn't lose a child or anything of that nature. Right, 836 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:48.880 Not that not that you're aware of, Okay, I just 837 00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.639 felt like a message for they usually bring somebody up 838 00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.039 that's in this world for a reason, and they're pointing 839 00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.840 to two different people like like coming in at the 840 00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:03.960 same time. But now, if it helps. 841 00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:08.639 My first daughter's name is Rose and they never got 842 00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:09.280 to meet her. 843 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.400 Oh okay, okay, that's more likely, I would say then 844 00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.440 that there's a mention of Rose. So that and so 845 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:25.159 your grandfather never got to meet that baby, Yes, ma'am, 846 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.440 got it. Okay, that makes sense. Thank you. I'm not 847 00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.000 sure where the woodworking fits in, But when I hear Rose, 848 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.440 that to me would be an acknowledgment of your daughter 849 00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:37.880 of saying like, we do know her, we didn't miss 850 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.199 we didn't we didn't meet them in this form, but 851 00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:44.159 we actually are very aware of Rose and following Rose 852 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:48.360 through her life. So that would make more sense to 853 00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:52.320 me than Rose being your Sometimes we have a message 854 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.079 for somebody else, but sometimes I want to hear Rose. 855 00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:56.480 That's just like to me, that's somebody's name and they're 856 00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.599 addressing your daughter and just sending your daughter love like 857 00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.800 I did meet I did meet her, like we're totally there. 858 00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:04.559 So that thank you for that. That does help a lot. 859 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.360 Interesting just out of curiosity, Shannon, all right, So whenever 860 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:13.639 you're talking to these people or you're getting some form 861 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:17.719 of communication from these people that have passed on to 862 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:21.480 the other side, like what are they doing over there? 863 00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.440 You know what's going on? Are they just floating around 864 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.119 and the ether? Are they just free spirits and they 865 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.199 can pop in and pop out any time, any when, 866 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.039 anywhere kind of situation. They just question they just exist 867 00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.119 in infinity or how does that work? 868 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:41.119 Yeah, that's so interesting because even after having interviewed hundreds 869 00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.239 of near deathic speedar answers who've been to the other 870 00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:47.400 side and come back, I still don't entirely know. But 871 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.440 I know what I do know. What I do know 872 00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.599 is that when people cross over to the other side, 873 00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.960 they just say that it's not like here, where it's like, 874 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.280 what are we doing with our time? But there's no time, right. 875 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:06.159 Everything happens everything everywhere all at once. So here we 876 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:07.880 measure everything by time, and we're like, what are you 877 00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.519 doing with your time? I don't know. I got I'm 878 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:12.639 reading a book, I'm making dinner, then I gotta go 879 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:14.800 to the gym, and then I'm driving, and then like 880 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.719 we've got all these things we're doing. I mean, people 881 00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.039 tell me that when they crossed over, it was just 882 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:24.440 like some people even just sort of never really got 883 00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:26.559 quite over the hump of the other side. They just 884 00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:28.800 kind of floated around in nothingness, but it was totally 885 00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.360 all good, Like it didn't feel boring or it didn't 886 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:35.480 it just felt like bliss, like there's nowhere to be, 887 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.920 there's nothing to worry about. You're just sort of like 888 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.360 an ameba that doesn't need to do anything. But most 889 00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:43.800 people tell me that when they go to the other side, 890 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:47.760 there is like a whole It's almost like that movie 891 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.800 I don't know if you guys saw it, Defending Your 892 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:55.159 Life with It was Albert Brooks, and it's like there's 893 00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.159 like a council. It's like they're alien. I don't know 894 00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.119 what they are, but it's like being as aliens light beings, 895 00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:05.360 and they actually have like structured meetings. I don't know 896 00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:12.599 how it would work, it's like they have. Okay, So 897 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.000 I just interviewed this woman today who was in a rock. 898 00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.719 She was working in a rock and she was blown 899 00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:21.079 up in a roadside bomb, and she said she didn't 900 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.320 even feel she heard it. She heard the pop and 901 00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:27.360 she's like, oh shit, bomb's coming, but then she was 902 00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.000 just in another place, so she didn't feel the impact 903 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.920 even though it blew up her whole convoy. 904 00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:33.159 Like. 905 00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:36.320 So she ended up with like, I'm getting chills all 906 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.039 over my body right now too. So I feel like 907 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.320 I am I know I'm connecting. That's the That's the 908 00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.800 other thing is I know, and so when she went 909 00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.519 over there, she's like, I'm standing in this sort of 910 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.800 like a podium and I'm like, there's thousands of beings 911 00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:51.440 and we're having like a meeting. It's but I knew 912 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.079 them all. Was like, oh yeah, I remember you guys. 913 00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:56.519 It's like kind of like and then they actually have 914 00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:58.360 a meeting about like, okay, so what's going to happen. 915 00:45:58.400 --> 00:45:59.840 You want to are you gonna stay here or do 916 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.039 I want to go back and kind of finish out 917 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.679 what you were doing? And she's like I'd be cool 918 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.280 here really honestly, but they're like, well, well you know. 919 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.559 She's like, but I sure, I'll go back. And they said, 920 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.320 all right, let's choose what injuries you're going to have 921 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:13.920 so that because they're each going to inform how you 922 00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:15.559 go through the rest of your life. So like there 923 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:18.440 is some discussion and I don't really although it's all telepathic, 924 00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:22.840 and she explained it as like impossible to explain because 925 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.239 she has a book which I have right near me 926 00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:28.880 and I was reading and it's like the way that 927 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.920 you're kind of having a communication is that it's all telepathy. 928 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.159 So she's like, it's more of like an understanding and 929 00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.039 all these downloads, and she's like, and we were laughing 930 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.679 kind of at the same time, like, oh, should I 931 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:41.360 lose a leg? Should I use an ad? Like she 932 00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:44.920 lost an eye and like or her hand and like 933 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.719 parts of her body. But she's like, yeah, to this day, 934 00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:50.599 I don't. I can't move my arm. So but I 935 00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.639 was kind of like, Okay, well, whatever we choose, it's 936 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.519 going to help me kind of get through life with 937 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:59.320 a different under set of tools and understanding. So I 938 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.519 so here that sometimes you go there to like help 939 00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.239 other souls, like and I don't know how it's structured, 940 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.559 because I think there's no way we can really understand. 941 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:12.840 But again, is this all a hologram? And it's like 942 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:17.679 being run by like other souls or aliens. I had 943 00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:23.039 another guy on the other day that he basically saw that, 944 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:27.719 like the universe and the Earth is really just run 945 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:31.519 by like other souls. It's like it is other souls. 946 00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:33.760 It's made up of other souls. And this is the dream. 947 00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:35.840 So we're project this is like a projector and this 948 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.920 is all just a movie. It's not actually a place. 949 00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:41.800 It's like this soul's having a dream. It's so so again, 950 00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.480 I can't even I think we can't really explain it 951 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.480 because it's nothing that we can understand. And I hear 952 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:50.599 all kinds of things like and yes they can when 953 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.079 people are like, oh, I don't want to bother my 954 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.760 dad because you know, no, he's up. You're not bothering 955 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:56.599 a soul by saying, hey, can you come hang out 956 00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.360 with me? Because they can be with you and your 957 00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.039 brother and your sister, and you're all at the same time, 958 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.039 like Santa Claus right right, Like I don't know how 959 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.599 it works. I really can't even begin to fathom. But 960 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.119 I also know that they're everything everywhere, all at once. 961 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:17.039 We are them, They're us. There is no they. It's 962 00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.360 like you, you and I. All of you people here 963 00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.039 are me and I'm you. We're just split out into 964 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:25.760 different bodies so we can like interact with each other. 965 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.320 Well the one baby, Yeah, what do you think, because 966 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.360 I'd love to hear you always have really, yeah, I've. 967 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:34.440 I've really come around to the idea of everything is 968 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.880 one that it just makes the most amount of sense. 969 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.639 And to be honest, in that frame of mentality of 970 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.000 looking around at the world as if it's all just 971 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:48.480 some form of projection of you. It makes things so 972 00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:51.760 much easier because it brings you closer to the people, 973 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.920 to literally everybody, you know, Like I can look at 974 00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:58.320 Sean as if like that's a some some kind of 975 00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.119 version of me, and all almost makes you look like, 976 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:04.880 I don't know, just feel like a lot closer to 977 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:10.559 them in more sympathetic and empathetic because you're not gonna 978 00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:12.760 why would you talk shit on yourself. I mean, we 979 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:14.599 do it all the time, but nobody says it out 980 00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.840 loud kind of thing. But yeah, I'm I'm. I'm of 981 00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:19.679 the belief that it's all kind of one thing as 982 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.639 far as what's going on on the other side. I mean, 983 00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:26.400 there's so many possibilities, you know, like people that have 984 00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:28.920 the near death experiences, or people that go through the 985 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.840 past life progressions, or anybody that's done like a heavy 986 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:35.639 dosage of psychedelics. It's like it's too much for our 987 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:41.360 minds to even comprehend. But Nicholas, I know you got 988 00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:44.840 something to say on this, on this topic, sir, I do. 989 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.639 I just wanted to kind of touch on the whole 990 00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:53.079 idea of like the kind of life review things that 991 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:56.280 that Channon was talking about, and the idea that some 992 00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.440 people have about you know, you've heard of like the 993 00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:03.360 soul trap idea, right, like, you know, we're just like 994 00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:05.480 trapped and we're recycling and you know, we don't have 995 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.440 anywhere to go. I just kind of wanted to make 996 00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:12.719 the point of why I don't subscribe to that theory, 997 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.039 because there's so many people that are having those kinds 998 00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:19.800 of experiences where they're meeting up with their guides or whatnot, 999 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.559 and they're like planning those kinds of scenarios out and 1000 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.000 coming back. Like if you were in some sort of 1001 00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:29.800 loop trap system, there wouldn't be these teams that are 1002 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.360 just assisting all the time for that kind of soul 1003 00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:34.400 development all the way through. 1004 00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.199 Yeah, I feel the same exact way, because it does 1005 00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:41.280 feel like the universe or God or the Source or 1006 00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:45.480 whatever is trying to work with you rather than against you. 1007 00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:49.639 It's not some kind of enemy or anything like that 1008 00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:53.559 doesn't seem like that. It definitely seems almost like a 1009 00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.079 like a twin version of you that there's there's you, 1010 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.320 and then there is a mirrored version of you that 1011 00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:06.880 ultimately emphasizes your thoughts, your feelings, your emotions and projects 1012 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.159 it outward for everybody to see and for you specifically 1013 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:12.840 to see. So, like, you know, the whole idea of 1014 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.360 waking up on the wrong side of the bed and 1015 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.119 bringing that mentality, how does that continue to multiply all 1016 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:20.159 the way throughout your day? 1017 00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:20.880 You know? 1018 00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.559 It's like I think that that that is a perfect 1019 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:27.920 example of the universe almost shining a mirror back onto 1020 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.440 you and saying, yes, that's what you are, that's what 1021 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.920 you're experiencing, and that can only work, in my opinion, 1022 00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.360 if everything is all just like a mirrored version of 1023 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:38.119 just itself. 1024 00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:40.519 Yeah, no, for sure. 1025 00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:43.559 Yeah. And I also think like we change form, but 1026 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.360 we don't have to reincarnate, like we don't have to, 1027 00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:49.360 and some people say they never do, and then other 1028 00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.039 people are like, I want to try a different thing. 1029 00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.840 And also we can reincarnate as ets, like we're not 1030 00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:57.800 the only species here. And some people have said my 1031 00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:03.199 past life was like I literally just dwelled in some 1032 00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.559 planet and that was all peace and nothing really happened. 1033 00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.039 It was just like what's his name, matteas you guys know, 1034 00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:13.079 thank you, yes, And he talked about that like being 1035 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:16.280 on planets where sometimes nothing was going on or was 1036 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:18.920 just like happiness and bliss, or sometimes you're just floating around, 1037 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:21.519 but you're cool with it. And here we come into 1038 00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.519 this world where everything is so dense and we're so 1039 00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:25.960 time oriented. But I don't think we have to be 1040 00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:30.440 doing anything but for But whoever? This counsel like, I 1041 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:33.599 don't know who these beings are? And also where did 1042 00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:38.679 they come from? Because it's that age old question of Okay, 1043 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.280 where did where did we come from? Okay, well we 1044 00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.519 came from whatever the Big Bang theory? But how did 1045 00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.079 where did the Big Bang come from? And then like 1046 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.159 where did God come from? 1047 00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.760 It's like the whole conversation about you know, the elohem 1048 00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.840 essentially like was there some kind of council of beings 1049 00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:03.400 that created this reality in uh kind of sort? And yeah, 1050 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:05.639 I don't know. I don't know. I mean, are they 1051 00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:09.840 separate from us? Are we fractures of them or fragments 1052 00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.920 of them or whatever? At that point, it's like, I 1053 00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.599 don't know. I personally have had an encounter with the 1054 00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:20.679 lo heem before and it was definitely not me, you know, 1055 00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:22.480 like it felt like I don't want to say it 1056 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.599 wasn't me, But in that moment, I knew that there 1057 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:26.880 was my thoughts and then there was them you know 1058 00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:32.840 what I'm saying, and it felt magical. You know, it's 1059 00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:34.719 really the best word that I can really put on that. 1060 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.480 And so I personally believe that there has to be 1061 00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:41.840 some kind of lohem. Now put whatever you mean on that. 1062 00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.239 I mean, we talk about the the Jewish, you know, 1063 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:48.639 Tora Eloheim, are we talking about the you know what 1064 00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:51.480 I mean? Like maybe those people were really just trying 1065 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.400 to pick up on something that they didn't even fully understand. 1066 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:55.519 Or maybe they did. You know. 1067 00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:58.880 It's hard and just to touch back on what we 1068 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.519 were talking about before, as far as like having to reincarnate, 1069 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:04.440 maybe maybe that's not even the right way to say it, 1070 00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:06.480 just as you were saying earlier, Shannon, as far as 1071 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:08.960 oh I have to do a podcast, maybe we get 1072 00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:11.199 to reincarnate, you know what I mean, maybe that's the 1073 00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:15.440 whole thing. Once you get out of this entire existence 1074 00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:18.880 of duality and you go into that oneness, eventually, you 1075 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.880 just you want to reincarnate to have experience, you know, 1076 00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:24.960 because you kind of forget what it's like and it's 1077 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:26.639 like really like a game, like a ride. 1078 00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:28.159 You know. 1079 00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:33.280 Yeah, definitely, And then yeah, some people say that they 1080 00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:35.880 choose not to Some people actually say I'm going to reincarnate, 1081 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.480 and then at the last minute they're like, nope, I'm 1082 00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:40.519 not doing it, and I went and going back. Like 1083 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.800 Christian Sundberg, who I've interviewed and met at the Near 1084 00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:48.079 Death Experience conference, he was one of those people that 1085 00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:52.760 like remembers his mother, like choosing a mother and then 1086 00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:55.280 realizing he wasn't ready yet and that's why she lost 1087 00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:58.039 the baby and it wasn't you know. It's sometimes the 1088 00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:01.199 soul is like I just it's not time. I can't 1089 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.400 do this right now. And so he's like, so my 1090 00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.360 mother I miscarried or whatever, and he's like, I'm sorry 1091 00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.000 I did that to her, but I just couldn't do it. 1092 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.480 And it might have been No, No, it was him 1093 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:12.519 because he remembers all the pre birth memories as well. 1094 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.599 He's really interesting Christian Sunberg, and he's on a million 1095 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:20.119 podcasts and really incredible speaker. But I also know that 1096 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.719 a lot of people ask me, does my loved one 1097 00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:28.280 miss me? Like on the other side, and I say, 1098 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:30.800 you're not gonna like this, but no, they don't miss you. 1099 00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:33.280 But it's because they don't miss you because they're with you, 1100 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:35.599 like they don't they're close. They're now one with you, 1101 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:38.760 so it's you. There's no lack of you. You miss 1102 00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:41.119 them because we have physical bodies and now you can't 1103 00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:44.119 touch them, hold them, hug them, but they don't miss 1104 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.559 you because they're one with everything. They are with more 1105 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.039 with you than they've ever been. And also some people 1106 00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.639 on the other side say, I'm golfing over here, or 1107 00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:56.239 I'm eating my favorite I'm eating I loved lobster, and 1108 00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:58.920 I'm eating lobster and corn. That's like my favorite dinner, 1109 00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.639 and so I'm eating it over here. Literally, they don't 1110 00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:05.119 have a body. But just as we can create our reality, 1111 00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:09.920 they can create their heaven. And that's and and people 1112 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:12.360 I believe can create their own hell. So they're near 1113 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.840 death experiencers who I'm not saying they didn't but like 1114 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.000 went to hell. I personally don't believe in hell like 1115 00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:23.039 as a place, but it's a form of consciousness to 1116 00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:27.280 me that it's and that we create it by having 1117 00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.639 fear around it, thinking we deserve to go there. Religious 1118 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:33.920 indoctrination saying if you do something bad, you're going to 1119 00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:36.079 burn in hell for the rest of eternity. You might 1120 00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:37.960 go to a place that has you kind of looking 1121 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:41.239 at some things. But as one of my guests said 1122 00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:45.000 the other day, if God created hell, they're like, he 1123 00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:48.239 wouldn't make you rot down there, rot down there like 1124 00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:52.760 it whatever. But God is perfection. You are We're all perfection, 1125 00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:57.039 but we do bad things in the human form. There's 1126 00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:03.039 the contrast. And that's because in my view, indoctrination, trauma, fear, 1127 00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:06.840 mental illness, like, there are things that we do here. 1128 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.840 It doesn't mean our souls are inherently evil. It just 1129 00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:12.000 means that our souls were plopped into a body that 1130 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:15.880 had some rough shit happen, and they made poor choices. 1131 00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:18.880 Because we still have free will based on that trauma 1132 00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:21.360 and their own fear, they did things that were very bad, 1133 00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:26.199 but their actual soul. All souls are just one big 1134 00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:29.960 blob of light that just branch off to have different experiences. 1135 00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:34.639 Man, my chance was that Dennis that you're talking about 1136 00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.280 that mentioned that. I just listened to that episode and 1137 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.920 it's so funny. Everybody needs to go listen to that 1138 00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:42.519 episode because I just felt like it was very fascinating 1139 00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.360 and the way that he looks at things is just 1140 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.840 so I don't know, I feel like it takes the 1141 00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:50.320 pressure off, you know, like you were saying, before you 1142 00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.480 end up in some hell that you actually kind of 1143 00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.320 created for yourself because that was the state. 1144 00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:58.159 Of mind that you were in or what have you. 1145 00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.880 But it's funny because I was listen to that, and 1146 00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:04.119 then I was thinking about Nick and thinking about letting 1147 00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:05.639 him know that you were going to be on tonight, 1148 00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:09.079 and in five minutes he texted me asking me about 1149 00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:10.719 the live tonight, and so it was just like this 1150 00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.920 weird thing that happened where it was like maybe we 1151 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:15.000 are all one. 1152 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:19.639 Yeah, that's well, yeah, I had that happen today too, 1153 00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:21.639 where I thought, I'm going to reach out to my 1154 00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:24.400 coworker to ask if for Joshua tree house is open, 1155 00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:27.039 and then she texted me right at that moment, being 1156 00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:29.480 like like literally we texted each other at the exact 1157 00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.800 same time about two different things. But I suddenly she 1158 00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:34.679 popped into my mind and I was like, oh, I 1159 00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:40.760 all text hers this thing, but I forgot what I 1160 00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:42.159 was going to say. So if do you have thoughts 1161 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:43.320 about that as well? Well? 1162 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:46.159 Just out of curiosity, So you say that you have 1163 00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:51.159 you have sessions with people that's regarding like psychic sessions, 1164 00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:51.639 you mean. 1165 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.400 Mediumship sessions, and so the way it works is I have, 1166 00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:59.840 you know, let's say Nora came to me, so we'd 1167 00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:03.119 be on a zoom call and I do an hour 1168 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:07.719 reading for people, so we kind of settle in and 1169 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:11.800 then I well, and I first also I usually do 1170 00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.039 like a prayer beforehand and a hole just to kind 1171 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.239 of I meditate beforehand. Today I didn't have time because 1172 00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.000 I was jumping from one thing to another. I don't 1173 00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:21.840 know if it's how necessary it is, but it could 1174 00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.559 also be jumping from one thing to another that my 1175 00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.519 connection isn't as strong. But I usually do a meditation 1176 00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.000 for a half an hour, and I ask soul. I 1177 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:33.519 asked the spirit world to come and to let Nora 1178 00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:36.000 know whatever it is that she most needs to hear. Today. 1179 00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:38.559 I ask that my own ego, my own self, doubt, 1180 00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:42.480 my own fear, my own my own judgments be gone. 1181 00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:45.679 And then I asked them to use me to send 1182 00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:48.159 messages that are in everyone's highest and best good and 1183 00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:50.480 in the best good in the spirit world, because I'm 1184 00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:54.000 just a messenger, so I don't sometimes spirit doesn't have 1185 00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:57.079 anything to say in which case, which is rare. But 1186 00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.519 there are times where it's like if the p doesn't 1187 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:04.159 really need a reading spirit isn't going to necessarily like 1188 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:08.880 slow the stop the presses and like slow their because 1189 01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:11.079 they have to slow their vibration. We have to speed 1190 01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:14.000 our vibration up to meet in the middle. And when 1191 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.840 it's really important, like I like when my friend's grandma 1192 01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:18.519 came through, she was like, please keep tell her this, 1193 01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:20.239 tell her this, teller this, tell her this, And I 1194 01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:22.920 was getting like full body chills and bringing in my ear. 1195 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:25.480 And then other times people come for curiosity and it 1196 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:29.679 doesn't mean I can't read them. It just the connection 1197 01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:33.280 isn't always it's usually not as strong as like I 1198 01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:38.960 just lost my spouse and that's like there's a a 1199 01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:42.639 soulmate group on Facebook that I'm recommended in through this 1200 01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.960 woman who like stays married to her husband on me 1201 01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:48.639 while he's on the other side, and she teaches people 1202 01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:52.159 to have relationships with their soulmates and so she recommended me. 1203 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.000 So I tend to really do well when somebody has 1204 01:00:55.079 --> 01:01:00.360 lost like a really close loved one because the bond 1205 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:03.000 is so much stronger. Because when you're intimate with somebody, 1206 01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:07.519 that's a bond, like the only bond stronger is a child. 1207 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.599 You know, child and parent, especially child and mother, but 1208 01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:13.800 obviously father as well. And then the other bond is 1209 01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:20.039 like intimate relationships romantic relationships because you're like sharing souls. 1210 01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:21.880 I mean, you know when you when you have sex 1211 01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.519 with someone, your share you're like in their energy in 1212 01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:29.719 a way. So I find it usually pretty like I 1213 01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.079 can feel a lot when there's somebody that's that's missing 1214 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:36.360 their soulmate because they're still so connected. But then sometimes 1215 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:38.719 people come and they're just curious and I just kind 1216 01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:42.360 of get a few things. But it's not that pow 1217 01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:44.719 mic drop moment, which might have been the case here too, 1218 01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:47.480 which is I'm kind of trying like, hey, if you 1219 01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:50.679 got anything, send it my way. But if someone doesn't 1220 01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:55.360 have like an incredibly strong need for healing today, I 1221 01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.159 may miss you know, I may just miss it, or 1222 01:01:57.199 --> 01:01:59.440 I may kind of be trying. Like I can pick 1223 01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:02.320 up like a little thing like growth, stomach cancer, you know, 1224 01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:04.599 but then I can hear. I know. There's an apology, 1225 01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:06.400 but it's a little bit gentle because I think you're 1226 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:10.039 because Nora, I think you're you know you are, Okay. 1227 01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:14.239 I just wanted to see, Oh yeah, that was No's 1228 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:17.440 Nora's note in the chat. So it's really interesting that 1229 01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:22.639 Nikki Blair, who I teach with, we teach mediumship, and 1230 01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:27.920 she's an incredible Indigenous medium. She serves the indigenous community. 1231 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.920 She grew up on a reservation herself, and she's incredible, 1232 01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:35.400 and yet she calls me almost every other day. Oh 1233 01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:36.880 I just had one and I just couldn't do it. 1234 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:39.239 She's like, am I even? And I'm like it happened. 1235 01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:43.039 Like sometimes we are stronger than others. Some I mean, 1236 01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:46.440 I have like we remind ourselves in those times. I say, 1237 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.199 remember the time that you brought through this thing and 1238 01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.800 you're like, of course. It's like it's not a perfect science. 1239 01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:58.119 I can't always get that connection. And sometimes she'll pass 1240 01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:00.280 someone on to me and vice versa because she's like, no, 1241 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.880 my energy is just not there today. But other times 1242 01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:06.159 it's like you're on fire and spirits like talking in 1243 01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:08.960 your ear and you can hear it so loudly, but 1244 01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:10.719 it is sometimes a little more subtle. 1245 01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.719 Do you ever think that there's like some kind of 1246 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:20.000 astrological connection there, you know, maybe retrograde or something like that. 1247 01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:24.000 Right now tonight, right, I think it's is it today? 1248 01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:27.599 Who knows? Who's a strology. Oh okay, it's not tonight, 1249 01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:28.239 it's this week. 1250 01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:30.039 It's like a slip right now. 1251 01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:32.639 Oh yeah, yeah, okay, so it's going to be happening 1252 01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:38.079 the portal. Oh that's it's the Lionsgate portal that's coming up, 1253 01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:42.280 coming up. I wonder because sometimes I'll go through a 1254 01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:44.960 little phase where I'm like, I don't know, I feel 1255 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:46.360 like I'm not getting Then all of a sudden, I 1256 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:48.559 have a week where it's like every reading is fire, 1257 01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:52.559 and so I think there probably has to It probably 1258 01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:56.519 does have to do with the energies possibly or human 1259 01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:57.840 resonance or something. 1260 01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:02.239 Yeah, going crazy like last six hours. I think that's 1261 01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:02.719 what I heard. 1262 01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:04.559 What do you know about the Shuman residence. 1263 01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:04.559 Neck. 1264 01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:11.599 Well, I mean it's definitely it seems to proceed, you know, 1265 01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:13.719 big consciousness events. 1266 01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:15.440 For sure. 1267 01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:17.880 I know that there's at least a little bit that 1268 01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:20.559 like that last time it went all crazy, like the 1269 01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:24.239 DNA looking stuff. I don't remember that, but that was 1270 01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:31.920 evidently extraterrestrial vibrationally related from what I understand that one anyway, 1271 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.079 and it's supposed to happen again at some point. So 1272 01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:37.960 if it does do that again, then that's supposed to 1273 01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:42.360 be the the second confirmation that that first one was 1274 01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:44.000 true and that if that makes sense. 1275 01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:46.199 But I wonder if that had anything to do with 1276 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:52.400 Hulk Hulk Hogan and Ozzy Osmoren and what's his name, 1277 01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:56.079 Malcolm Yeah, from the Cosby show, Dyan Weird how they 1278 01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:58.000 always comes in like three or four. 1279 01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:01.480 Yeah, and Hulk Hogan Ozzy Osbourne is like h h 1280 01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:04.159 o o and like, oh my god. 1281 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.000 I net even put that together, but I thought, why 1282 01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:07.719 everybody at the same the same week? 1283 01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:10.559 Man? 1284 01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:13.599 Oh okay, yeah, I was trying to do a little 1285 01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:18.039 Gematria in my mind, but so g you know what, 1286 01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:20.360 I do have a question though, just out of out 1287 01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:21.800 of curiosity. I don't know if you'd be able to 1288 01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:25.840 answer this, but you know, I've been really trying to 1289 01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:29.280 figure out, uh I'm not going to go specific here, 1290 01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:33.000 but been trying to figure out if some ancient figures 1291 01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:38.000 actually existed or whether they didn't actually exist, And personally, 1292 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:40.559 I don't know if it really even matters, but I 1293 01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:42.639 think that you might be able to clarify this a 1294 01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:47.519 little bit. So on the other side, whether we're talking 1295 01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:52.719 about Tulpa's or edgregor so thought forms or Edgregor's do 1296 01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:56.360 you think that those eggors, since you have mass consciousness 1297 01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:00.360 almost manifesting it at that point, everybody believing it at 1298 01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.440 that point, do you think that they actually do exist 1299 01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:07.559 on that other side? Was that energy created by belief 1300 01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:10.960 in so many people, whether they're praying or talking or whatever, 1301 01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:13.039 do you think that they could possibly exist on the 1302 01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:13.639 other side? 1303 01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.400 Like, as, that's interesting, like you create Like do you 1304 01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:22.239 mean like creature like creatures or other beings. 1305 01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:24.599 I'll get specific, I'll fuck it. I'll just go all 1306 01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:26.719 the way. There are some people that there are some 1307 01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:31.760 people that question if Jesus, for example, ever truly existed 1308 01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:34.199 as human in the flesh, or was it some kind 1309 01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:37.440 of mystical story of sorts. And I'm not trying to 1310 01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:39.360 rough on anybody's feathers. I'm not saying one way or 1311 01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:40.320 I'll say. 1312 01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:45.159 That with respect with all, with respect to I mean, obviously, 1313 01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:48.360 I don't know that you know, I'm no, I can't 1314 01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.239 tell you I know all the things. But what has 1315 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:55.360 resonated for me in a lot of the interviews I've 1316 01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:58.599 done with near death experiencers, I've never personally had encounters 1317 01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:01.239 with Jesus. I pray to Jesus as a guy, as 1318 01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:04.599 like an ascended master. I always say God, Jesus, like 1319 01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:08.280 I believe in I think it was Dennis, wasn't it 1320 01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.920 Sean like talked about Christ consciousness. How that is a 1321 01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:13.840 his idea and this I'm open to all of it. 1322 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:18.800 So I'm not saying Jesus did not exist. I believe 1323 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:22.079 Jesus was a person, whether or not he was the 1324 01:07:22.280 --> 01:07:24.159 I mean, you know, one of my best friends is 1325 01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:26.760 very Christian. She's like he was the son of God. Literally, 1326 01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.280 he was God that decided to like you know, And 1327 01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:31.360 I'm not saying that's not true, because I don't know 1328 01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.360 for sure, but what's always made sense to me is 1329 01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:36.320 more like he is a guy. Like he was, he 1330 01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:38.599 did exist, and I think that he was trying to 1331 01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:43.039 spread like Christ consciousness, which is God consciousness. I think 1332 01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:45.760 he knew what was up. I think at least when 1333 01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:47.599 he said I am the son of God, he was right. 1334 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:51.440 Whether he was like a chosen ascended one, I can't 1335 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:56.280 tell you, but I what resonates for me more is 1336 01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:58.440 that he was a guy that was really preaching like 1337 01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:01.400 we're all one, We're all God, and like he got it. 1338 01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:05.400 And I know that's not exactly answering your question, but 1339 01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:07.480 it's like, or did we create that with our own 1340 01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:11.639 you know, with our own because this story was fable, 1341 01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:14.039 let's say, was created and then he actually became came 1342 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:17.960 to exist. So of course that's a really deeply right, 1343 01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:19.199 I guess question. 1344 01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:21.520 The reason I asked that is is because there's been 1345 01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:23.720 a lot of gods that people have believed in and 1346 01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:26.560 they felt like they've been communicating with them, even though 1347 01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:31.319 they were essentially maybe philosophical or spiritual, Like I can't 1348 01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:35.960 imagine personally that there was ever a human dude named Odin, 1349 01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:39.359 you know, but people have connected to Odin, people have 1350 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:41.520 connected the thor like if you're into the whole Norse 1351 01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:43.600 paganism kind of stuff, you know what I'm saying. And 1352 01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:47.760 the same thing goes for like Hekata or you know, 1353 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:50.520 like people like that that maybe they didn't necessarily exist 1354 01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:54.399 as human, but people are still coming in contact with 1355 01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:57.880 these energies and these these things, you know, Like so 1356 01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:00.279 I don't know, That's where I go with it, Like 1357 01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:03.880 would you be able to I mean, are they existing 1358 01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:04.720 on the other side? 1359 01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:05.319 I don't know. 1360 01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:07.720 Only because I don't have that experience just you know, 1361 01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:11.560 I think I wouldn't know personally, because even if I'm 1362 01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:13.560 connecting with them, I don't think I would know. Or 1363 01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:16.560 I don't personally know, I might doubt myself and be like, 1364 01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.840 am I really communicating with that? But I have done 1365 01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:22.600 like spells and things where I call upon those I 1366 01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:25.319 for me personally, it's more of like an energy, like 1367 01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:31.319 Christ consciousness, like you know, odin whatever it's it's yeah, 1368 01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:37.760 like it's a kid. Yes, that's the word. I think that. Yeah, 1369 01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:42.399 Like I do believe in Christ consciousness, and I don't 1370 01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:45.399 I don't claim to know what that is. I know 1371 01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.680 that my friend is very adamant that no, he is 1372 01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:51.760 literally God, and I'm like, I'm not happy. I'm just 1373 01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:56.039 saying it doesn't it doesn't necessary resonate with me yet. 1374 01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:58.399 I'm open minded about it. I'm not saying it does 1375 01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:01.159 or it doesn't. I'm just saying I don't know. I'm 1376 01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:06.960 interested in I'm interested in like researching more proof that 1377 01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:12.479 he that He actually exists. And I'm sure there's so 1378 01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:14.439 many ideas. Yeah, but again, I just I think that's 1379 01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:18.039 something that we'll never know until we really get there. 1380 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:19.880 Well, I guess, let me you know, what. Let me 1381 01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:23.439 give you a more maybe a little bit more contrived example. 1382 01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:27.560 So our boy Marv, who is right behind Sean, he's 1383 01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:31.039 the green octopus alien. We've created him as a tulpa. 1384 01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.880 It's essentially that's the reason why I wear this serviator 1385 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:38.079 necklace that Lord Byron Jester made essentially to you know, 1386 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:40.439 whenever he was making these necklaces to turn it into 1387 01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:42.880 a servitor, he was like, holy shit, he was already there, 1388 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.760 you know, and it's like, already where you know what 1389 01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:49.680 I mean, that's what That's what I'm like, already, where 1390 01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:50.279 are you? 1391 01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:50.439 Like? 1392 01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:53.960 Already were you know? Like it's just so fun to 1393 01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:57.880 think about. But I don't know. I mean, I believe 1394 01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:00.119 that you can create energies and stuff like that. I 1395 01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:02.720 believe that you can create essentially like these thought forms 1396 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:04.880 which are turned into tulpa's and if you get enough 1397 01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.760 people to believe in it, then they turn into Eggregor's. Right, 1398 01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:11.520 it was the longest time that people didn't you know, 1399 01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.840 Santa Claus is relatively new, right, Like, it doesn't go 1400 01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:18.319 back that far depending on what source you get from. 1401 01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:21.359 But whenever you start getting mass scale talking about Santa 1402 01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:24.159 Claus and you're only having little kids believe in it anyway, 1403 01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:27.199 you know, But is even that enough to create that 1404 01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.119 energy on the other side to be able to communicate with. 1405 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.720 I'm sure anything's possible. All I know is I don't know, 1406 01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:36.359 And that's why I'm like, hey, I respect all religions 1407 01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:39.920 as long as they are peaceful, loving kind, and hurt nobody. 1408 01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:44.720 I respect and say, hey, I could be wrong all 1409 01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:48.079 life experience personally, like, I haven't had any experiences with 1410 01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:51.520 dark entities. I don't know, so I can't say they 1411 01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:53.720 don't exist. I just have never I just don't know 1412 01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:57.119 that they do. I can only trust what other people 1413 01:11:57.119 --> 01:12:00.279 have had experience with and say it's possible. And also, 1414 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:04.920 I haven't personally experienced a haunting or something like that. 1415 01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:08.880 I just know that as a medium, I just know 1416 01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:14.119 that I know things, and I just like and we 1417 01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:16.600 all do. We all are mediums, like I'm not. I 1418 01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:20.800 don't have any stronger We're all We're all able to 1419 01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:23.279 connect with the other side. It's just a matter of 1420 01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:26.800 learning the language, practicing it, and being obsessed with it 1421 01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:31.439 enough to be patient enough to learn the language. Unless 1422 01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:33.319 you're someone that was born because a lot of people 1423 01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:38.359 are born seeing and so I think I I was, 1424 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:40.479 and I just shut it down kind of because I 1425 01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:43.600 remember seeing one spirit when I was a kid, but 1426 01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:46.159 I was like three, so I can't really like, was 1427 01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:49.039 it a dream? Was it really? I remember seeing a 1428 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.119 man walking down my driveway with a top hat and 1429 01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:53.319 I was crying and calling him no Man, and my 1430 01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:55.760 dad was just so creepy, and my dad would say 1431 01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:57.880 I would always cry and like that there was this 1432 01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.800 guy called no Man, but I I sort of remember him. 1433 01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:04.319 He was like tall and spindily and had like a 1434 01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:06.239 cane and a top that and like a long coat. 1435 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:08.960 He looked like the Peanuts guy, like the Peanut gut, 1436 01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:12.920 Like what's the guy? Yeah, like with this monocle or 1437 01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:14.880 what like? He kind of looked like a But I 1438 01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:17.920 don't know. But now because I was three, can I 1439 01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:21.000 I don't know? Was I imagine? I don't know, was I hallucinating? 1440 01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:23.680 Did I really see it? And is it a fake memory? 1441 01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:26.039 I now know that I just kind of shut that 1442 01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:28.439 down because I was so sensitive, and then I just 1443 01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:30.840 basically asked to ope. I was like, I want to 1444 01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:31.600 open it up again. 1445 01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:37.039 Whenever you're getting a reading or you're reading somebody, do 1446 01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:43.560 you ever feel that you connect with possible extraterrestrial entity. 1447 01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:46.439 I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know because I could have 1448 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:48.560 that thought, but i'd be like, did I make that up? 1449 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.239 I wouldn't have the validation. So, for example, the reason 1450 01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:57.199 I like doing Mediumship is there's immediate validation. So like 1451 01:13:57.239 --> 01:13:58.640 if I say to you and in fact I had 1452 01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:00.960 I kept having this image in my mind and maybe nothing. 1453 01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:03.199 But you know how, we did play this game last 1454 01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:07.840 time where I'm like, what's the first slow Shannon adhd 1455 01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:12.079 brain I kept seeing as we were talking because I'm 1456 01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:13.840 still trying to pick stuff up. I'm like, is there 1457 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:17.439 something that somebody has about a cheeseburger that's like a joke. 1458 01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:20.079 So I don't know if it's McDonald specifically, but it's 1459 01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:22.119 like someone that would have loved cheeseburgers, or it's like 1460 01:14:22.119 --> 01:14:25.359 a nickname, or there's something funny about cheeseburgers. Now, no 1461 01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:27.119 one can take that. I may have just invented it, 1462 01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:28.760 but I kept seeing a cheeseburger in the back of 1463 01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:32.479 my mind. So if I say to my sitter, there's 1464 01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:34.319 someone here that's talking about cheeseburgers, and they're like, oh 1465 01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:36.680 my god, that's my grandpa, Like he loved cheeseburgers, and 1466 01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:39.239 that was like our big joke. Then I know, Okay, 1467 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:42.680 I'm right. If someone's like, if I'm like seeing an 1468 01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:47.319 alien in my mind's eye and I hear some name Alithius, 1469 01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:51.079 like I'd be like, I have no idea if I 1470 01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:54.800 made that up. I have no idea unless I was 1471 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.640 like had a vivid experience, like I was sleeping and 1472 01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.439 had like a very vivid experience. All I know is 1473 01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:03.399 I've done enough readings to know that. There have been 1474 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:05.840 so many times where I'm like, there's no possible way 1475 01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:07.720 I could have made that up. There's no possible way 1476 01:15:07.720 --> 01:15:10.479 I could have known that. And so I just want 1477 01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:12.800 to tell you. I have a friend on the other 1478 01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:17.079 side and our thing. I don't even know why, but 1479 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:21.000 it's rubber duckies because it's a joke between him and 1480 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:23.239 one of our mutual friends, and she put rubber Duckies 1481 01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:25.359 on her album in his honor. So I don't even 1482 01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:28.479 know where it started from, but that's become the universal 1483 01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:31.720 Derek sign, is showing us rubber duckies. So a couple 1484 01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:33.399 of weeks ago, I'm like, hey, Derek, can you show 1485 01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:35.319 me a sign that you're here, and I look in 1486 01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:36.840 back of me and there's a truck in back of 1487 01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:40.720 me that has rubber duckies lined up all along like instantly. 1488 01:15:41.199 --> 01:15:44.199 Right in that moment, I'm like, thank you. And then 1489 01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:46.000 I got home and someone said, Hey, I've got this 1490 01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:48.640 little animated film that I want to do and wonder 1491 01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:50.399 if you could voice one of the characters. So I'm 1492 01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:54.039 reading the script and my character says to the other character, Hey, 1493 01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:55.840 what do you We're in a cessna and I'm like, 1494 01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:57.720 what are you doing? And the other characters like, I'm 1495 01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:00.600 just lining up these ducks, like she's lined up ducks 1496 01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:02.840 on the wit as she's talking, and I like that 1497 01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:05.600 was the action, Like that is wild. And then I'm 1498 01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:08.039 getting chills right now about it. And then I was 1499 01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:10.800 on a podcast a couple of weeks ago. I would 1500 01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:12.640 drop the name, but I cannot remember it right now. 1501 01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:17.520 And I was teaching. I was doing the exercise they 1502 01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:19.279 did with you guys where I said to them, all right, 1503 01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:20.960 and I want to do it with you guys too, 1504 01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:23.760 So I said to them, all right, for example, what's 1505 01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:25.319 the first thing that comes to your mind right now? 1506 01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:27.560 Just any literally, don't even think in she goes, uh, 1507 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:30.800 yellow rubber ducky and I was like, you just did it. 1508 01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.000 That's a sign from my friend Derek. Like it's that simple. 1509 01:16:34.079 --> 01:16:36.760 It's like if I say, Sean, what's the first thing 1510 01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:37.760 that comes to your mind right now? 1511 01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:38.520 Oh? 1512 01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:39.600 Water? 1513 01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:46.520 Okay, let's just that's fine, Jonathan, Yeah, like an image. 1514 01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:48.960 Well we'll go back to it. Yeah. So like Jonathan, 1515 01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:51.399 just like, let something drop in and don't even overthink it. 1516 01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:53.119 Just what's the first thing that comes into your mind? 1517 01:16:54.039 --> 01:16:54.600 Red truck? 1518 01:16:55.319 --> 01:16:58.279 Okay, that's perfect. Now I don't know exactly what that is, 1519 01:16:58.319 --> 01:17:02.680 but possibly there is a spirit on the other side 1520 01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:04.239 who drives a red truck. And we won't try to 1521 01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:06.119 make it fit if it doesn't. But literally, that's how 1522 01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:08.239 I see it. It's like, Nick, what's the first thing 1523 01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:09.439 that comes into your mind right now? 1524 01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:12.399 Well, after those two it was a fire truck. 1525 01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:16.600 Oh okay, so yeah, well I'm like maybe. So so 1526 01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:20.000 let's just say that you're sitting with someone and you're like, okay, 1527 01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:21.760 so I'm feeling into this. I'm seeing a fire truck, 1528 01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:25.359 all right? Is there someone that's a firefighter? It's so simple, 1529 01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:29.079 it's like, not perfect, I'll get chills if I'm right, 1530 01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:31.560 I'll get chills if the person if I'm on the 1531 01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:38.560 right track. But it's that simple. It's literally just like, Okay, 1532 01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:41.760 I see a worm, Like you know, you don't even 1533 01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:43.720 realize what's going on in the back of your mind. 1534 01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:46.119 So sometimes it's just a matter of sitting with it. 1535 01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:50.000 I'm just being like, why am I seeing like an earthworm? 1536 01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:53.920 Or like that worm from like the Richard Scary books. 1537 01:17:54.119 --> 01:17:56.720 It was like, you know, the little lowly worm or whatever. 1538 01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:00.119 Or I'll hear a name, Chloe. Just things like that 1539 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:02.239 just passed through our brains and we don't even know. 1540 01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:08.279 We don't even Sometimes it's your thought. Sometimes it's spirits thought. 1541 01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:10.359 And the job of a medium is to deter is 1542 01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:14.000 to like which is my thought and which is is that? 1543 01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:15.840 But you get that it's I mean it takes years, 1544 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:17.600 and I mean for me anyway, it took years and 1545 01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:20.119 years of doing it consistently where I was like, Okay, 1546 01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:22.039 now I know what, yes, when I get it right, 1547 01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:25.119 what that felt like when I was wrong? Now that 1548 01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:27.119 I think about it, it wasn't feeling it as much as 1549 01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:31.239 I was thinking it. It's such a subtle difference. So 1550 01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:35.239 and again then there also has to be the energy 1551 01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:36.880 of the person and then the energy of the person 1552 01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:38.479 on the other side, and you're all playing a game 1553 01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:41.039 of charades. So it's like a lot of times, I'm 1554 01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:43.960 really good at names most of the time, but not always. 1555 01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.319 Sometimes they are like names don't matter to us, Like 1556 01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:48.880 we don't. That's not what's important. What's important is the 1557 01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:53.439 love we felt. What's important is you know, I gave 1558 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:55.720 my son, like when I passed, I gave them like 1559 01:18:57.119 --> 01:19:00.479 it wasn't something material, it was like a handful of 1560 01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:02.239 change that belonged to me that was always in my 1561 01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:04.640 pocket or something, or like like there'd be like a 1562 01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:07.239 grandfather that's like always had change in his pocket, and 1563 01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:09.359 that's like the gift. And how do I know that 1564 01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:12.000 Because I just see it. I see change. I just 1565 01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:13.720 see change in my hand and then I feel into 1566 01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:18.439 it and I say, what about the change you gave it? Okay, 1567 01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:22.319 it's like a gift. It's so subtle, and like I said, 1568 01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:24.960 sometimes it's stronger than others. And sometimes it's when I'm 1569 01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:30.319 not even trying right, And sometimes I'm trying and nothing's happening, 1570 01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:33.880 so I get like I said with Nora, I'm not 1571 01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:36.000 sure it was the strongest connection, but there were things 1572 01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:39.079 there that I'm like, I can feel someone's there, and 1573 01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:41.239 I know they're there, so I'm sure I'm connected. I 1574 01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:44.399 just don't know if I'm interpreting this correctly. 1575 01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:47.159 So it sounds like it would be I'm sorry to 1576 01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:48.520 cut you off this. It sounds like it would be 1577 01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:52.640 really hard to try not to overthink it, you know 1578 01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:55.720 what I mean, instead of using a visual cue, you know, 1579 01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:57.920 because you saw something and then you say it. It's 1580 01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:01.600 like just just the thing that just hits your brain instantly, 1581 01:20:01.640 --> 01:20:03.159 instead of trying to overthink it. 1582 01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:06.279 And change it, like I did, you know what I mean. 1583 01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:09.520 It's like, yeah, it's the overthinking that gets in your way. 1584 01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:12.359 I feel like it is at least explaining No, that's 1585 01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:14.600 exactly what it is. It's and that's why sometimes you 1586 01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:17.319 just have to throw yourself into it. So I'm not 1587 01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:18.960 sure if I said this on the last one, but 1588 01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:20.840 I did a group reading in person and that went 1589 01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:24.439 really well, and I had never done one before, and 1590 01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:26.960 I was nervous because I'm like, what if I get 1591 01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:29.760 up there and nothing happens. And I got there and 1592 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.079 as soon as I walked through the door, I felt 1593 01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:34.720 spirit and I'm like, okay, you're here. But then the 1594 01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:36.319 first thing I saw was a pig, and I'm like, 1595 01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:39.119 oh my god, what what if I don't want to 1596 01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:40.079 say a pig and be wrong? 1597 01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:40.840 What if it's yeah? 1598 01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:43.279 And then I just got up and I said, I 1599 01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:46.479 there's a pig here, and I'm seeing the pig sleeping 1600 01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:47.760 in a dog bed, and the woman in front of 1601 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:50.199 me said, yeah, that's my pig, Daisy, and she always 1602 01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:51.760 used to sleep in the dog bed. And I was 1603 01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:53.479 like seeing her running around with the dogs like she 1604 01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:55.960 thinks she's a dog, and she's like, yeah, that I was. 1605 01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:58.279 I had to trust that because I'm like, there's no way. 1606 01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:02.199 Thought that and said I don't want to say pig. 1607 01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:05.439 Then you would have missed out on that entire connection. Yeah. 1608 01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:07.920 Yeah, And that's sometimes you just got to say the 1609 01:21:07.920 --> 01:21:11.600 weird thing and just and know that it's not about you, 1610 01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.960 it's not about me being wrong. I'm like, so what 1611 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:17.760 if you're wrong? It's like who cares? You know, I mean, 1612 01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:20.760 it's obviously if it's a professional reading and I'm wrong, 1613 01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:22.399 the whole time, I'm going to be like, hey, I'm 1614 01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:24.359 giving you a refund. It's like the worst thing that 1615 01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:26.680 can happen is it's just not a go that day. 1616 01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:28.479 But I've heard some of the best mediums in the 1617 01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:30.600 world say sometimes I have to refund people. It's just 1618 01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:31.880 I don't have control over it. 1619 01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:34.760 Right. Oh yeah, I mean do it very gracefully. 1620 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:36.760 I just want to let you know that, like you 1621 01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:38.880 were just on top of it, you know, not giving 1622 01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:41.439 in to any kind of pressure or I'm not finding 1623 01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:41.920 the connection. 1624 01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:44.199 You were just kind of real, real cool about it. 1625 01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:46.720 I just trust that spirit brings what needs to be. 1626 01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:48.960 If there's something so important that has to be said, 1627 01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:55.600 it will get through. It'll it'll get through. And in 1628 01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:57.720 the most wild ways, I don't know. I don't want 1629 01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:00.439 to take up all the time, but there's yeah, tell 1630 01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:01.279 me how much time we have. 1631 01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:04.119 Oh we have as much time or as little time 1632 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:06.119 as you need. But now I was just gonna say, yes, 1633 01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:08.920 sometimes it just doesn't really pan out that way. And 1634 01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:11.399 it's strange too, And that's why you know, I've I've 1635 01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:14.520 really been starting to look into astrology a little bit 1636 01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:18.960 more nowadays because I feel like I'm doing everything that 1637 01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:21.079 I should be doing for the most part, you know, 1638 01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:25.359 working out and eating healthy and maintaining my level of 1639 01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:29.760 stress and making sure I meditate somewhat frequently, and you know, 1640 01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:32.199 being thoughtful with a lot of the actions that I do. 1641 01:22:32.279 --> 01:22:35.920 And yet still, for some reason or another, you feel 1642 01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:38.800 different from day to day and you're like, man, I'm 1643 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:41.239 doing everything that I need to do. What is different 1644 01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:44.680 from today than yesterday? Because it's it feels like a 1645 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:48.560 carbon copy of yesterday, except for today, I'm not connected 1646 01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:51.319 and yesterday I was super connected. And to be honest, 1647 01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:53.600 I've been feeling this way this entire day today, So 1648 01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:55.880 I'm not even really shocked at you're kind of, you know, 1649 01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:59.119 going through what you're going to going through. But I 1650 01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:02.640 felt this way early literally, So on my other show 1651 01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:05.840 on the on the Cult of Conspiracy, we do, you know, 1652 01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:08.439 sometimes we have guests and sometimes if we're don't want 1653 01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:10.880 to show, Jacob will kind of take lead on that show, 1654 01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.199 or I'll take lead on a specific show. And I 1655 01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:15.279 did a show earlier and I was like, damn, Jake, 1656 01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:17.319 I'm sorry, bro, I fucked that one all the way up, 1657 01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:19.279 Like there is I was just bad, And he goes, 1658 01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:21.399 I thought you did all right? You know it wasn't. 1659 01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:24.720 But internally, I'm like, my God, I'm just dropping the 1660 01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:27.880 ball big time on this one. And I've done thousands 1661 01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:30.279 of shows. There's no reason for me to have like 1662 01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:32.399 I mean, everybody has a bad day, but I just 1663 01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:37.199 wonder if today, I mean July twenty eighth and some Monday, 1664 01:23:37.239 --> 01:23:39.520 we're not usually used to shooting on a Monday night. 1665 01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:44.199 I don't know. It's it's strange how astrologically. Maybe it 1666 01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:46.720 lines up. Maybe it's a Shuman resonance thing. I don't know, 1667 01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:47.600 but there's. 1668 01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:49.359 So many factors. And when you're a woman, you're like, 1669 01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:52.399 is it is it hormones or like is it that 1670 01:23:52.520 --> 01:23:54.399 like half the time we're like, I feel great and 1671 01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:56.079 the rest of the time we feel like shit. And 1672 01:23:56.119 --> 01:23:59.279 it's like, is this hormones or is this the Shuman 1673 01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:02.359 residence or the moon? And I think there's so many 1674 01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:05.279 different factors, or like how much water you drink, or 1675 01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:08.680 like how much circadian sleep you got. But that's the thing. 1676 01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:11.680 Our energies are always changing, and sometimes it lines right 1677 01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:15.520 up and sometimes it doesn't. But what I have learned 1678 01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:19.359 is usually it doesn't matter, like what my vibration is. 1679 01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:21.800 If it's important, Spirit will make sure I say it. 1680 01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:24.560 So I've had a reading where I was like, I 1681 01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:27.800 have COVID and I do not feel good and this 1682 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:31.199 is gonna suck. And then it was like nope, it 1683 01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:33.520 was all It was like fire because it was a need, 1684 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:36.760 it was important, and I have this really cool experience 1685 01:24:36.800 --> 01:24:41.479 where talking about a need, I one day was decided 1686 01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:42.960 out of the blue. I'm like, I have to have 1687 01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:45.640 a led Zeppelin T shirt, Like it's one of my 1688 01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:48.880 favorite bands. Why have I never ever bought a T shirt? 1689 01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:51.560 And so I spent a while looking for one. I'm like, no, 1690 01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:54.479 these are like not cool, these are dorky, like Target 1691 01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.000 brand ones, and so then I didn't. I went to 1692 01:24:57.079 --> 01:25:00.920 the airport the next day and I noticed a woman 1693 01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:03.520 wearing a leads Upland T shirt and I was like, Oh, 1694 01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:08.279 that's such a funny coincidence. I'm like, oh wow. And 1695 01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:10.399 then I got on the plane and the woman with 1696 01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:12.680 the lads Upland T shirt sat next to me, and 1697 01:25:12.680 --> 01:25:14.560 then her husband sat next to me, and then her 1698 01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:16.800 daughter in law sat next to me, and her son 1699 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:19.920 sat next to me, and I was like, Oh, that's 1700 01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:21.520 so funny, and so I started talking to her. I 1701 01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:23.680 was like, am I literally almost got a T shirt 1702 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:27.880 last night? And then for some reason, I just turned 1703 01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:29.720 to the girl next to me, and I don't know 1704 01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:31.239 why I said it, but it was like, oh, yeah, 1705 01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:32.680 because I'm a medium. I don't know why I even 1706 01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:34.600 just blurted that out, but I mentioned that I was 1707 01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:37.039 a medium to her within two seconds, and she's like, 1708 01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:40.079 oh wow, that's wild because she's like when she's like 1709 01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:42.520 twenty four at the time. She goes, yeah, my mom 1710 01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:45.319 just passed pretty recently, and I was like thinking, in 1711 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:46.880 my head, I want to give her reading, but I 1712 01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.279 don't what if what if I can't do it? You know, 1713 01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:51.279 I don't I'm not prepared, Like I don't know. If 1714 01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:53.199 I don't want to tell her, I'm going to do 1715 01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:54.960 it and then suck and like make it worse for her. 1716 01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:56.760 So I was like, I said, you know, when do 1717 01:25:56.840 --> 01:26:00.640 we get back, like we both land where we need 1718 01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:02.600 to go, Like let's get on zoom someday. I'd love 1719 01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:05.000 to because she's so young, Like I'd love to do 1720 01:26:05.039 --> 01:26:06.880 a reading for you. I just but then I just 1721 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:10.359 said spirit, like just tell me something, like tell me something, 1722 01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:12.439 and I said, well, look, did I go was her 1723 01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:14.279 name Marie? She's like that was her middle name. I'm 1724 01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:16.520 like all right, I mean, so that's a lot of 1725 01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:21.840 people's middle names. So and then I'm just like, okay, 1726 01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:24.920 I said, did somebody just have spine surgery? She goes, yeah, 1727 01:26:25.520 --> 01:26:28.479 my father in law sitting next to you. It's like oh, 1728 01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:31.439 and I go, who's Steven. She goes, he is like, 1729 01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:34.920 Steven has spine surgery. And I'm like, oh okay. And 1730 01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:39.560 then I said, your mom died of cancer. Yeah, okay, 1731 01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:42.520 so do lots of people. There's like a Yorki in 1732 01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:45.039 her lap when she dies. She's like yes, She's like 1733 01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:48.520 I have the Yorky now. And then I'm like, okay, 1734 01:26:48.680 --> 01:26:50.960 her mom planned this whole thing out, like where we 1735 01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:54.399 were seated, the blood Zeppelin thing. And then I said, 1736 01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:56.960 I'm seeing like who's traveling back and forth? I'm seeing 1737 01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:59.000 like little pins on a map, you know, like those 1738 01:26:59.039 --> 01:27:03.039 red pins. Like my mom. She was always traveling. She's 1739 01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:06.319 a flight attendant. I was like, okay, so here we 1740 01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:10.239 are on a plane and I'm like and I said, 1741 01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:15.720 who's elm Elmer And she's like, oh no. I said, like, 1742 01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:17.800 why is she talking about Palm Springs? And she's like 1743 01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:19.600 because we used to meet up there. When she'd be 1744 01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:22.479 like on a layover or whatever. And then I said, 1745 01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:25.079 who's Elmer. She's like, that's the restaurant we would eat 1746 01:27:25.079 --> 01:27:27.600 at when I went there. I was like, no, that's crazy. 1747 01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:30.960 I was like, So then this woman, this went on 1748 01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:34.239 for like hours. The woman I could almost like hear 1749 01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:38.239 her voice. I said, she's talking about cigarette she smoked. 1750 01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:41.319 And I said, I am asking her what cigarettes did 1751 01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:44.680 you smoke? And she said golden, golden, and she said 1752 01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:47.760 she smarked Marlboro gold. I was like, I didn't even 1753 01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:50.119 know that was a thing. I didn't know that. And 1754 01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:53.439 then I said, you're gonna have two kids, girls, and 1755 01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:55.479 you're gonna name one of them Savannah. And she goes, 1756 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:58.159 look at my phone, Shannon I wrote down, and she 1757 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:02.239 woke her husband. Her husband up, she's like, girl's name Savannah. 1758 01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:04.840 So I said, she's like, Savannah Grace. That's the name 1759 01:28:04.840 --> 01:28:06.279 that we were saying we want to name our kid. 1760 01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:09.159 So at this point, I'm just wondering how come I'm 1761 01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:11.880 just on this plane minding my own business and this 1762 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:16.239 woman's giving me validation, like like there's no possible way, 1763 01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:18.680 There's no way. And then even after I got off 1764 01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:20.640 the plane, and the more happened but it's like a long, 1765 01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:23.560 long thing. The next day, I said, hey to the spirit, 1766 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:25.840 anything else you want me to tell Maddie because we 1767 01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:28.479 had each other's number by now, And she's like a 1768 01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:29.680 koala stuffed animal. 1769 01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:30.640 And I. 1770 01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:34.840 Said, did you go to Australia. She's like, my mom did, 1771 01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:37.279 but I didn't get a stuffed Like I didn't get 1772 01:28:37.279 --> 01:28:41.359 a stuffed koala. I'm like, okay, showing me like herself 1773 01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:43.000 with a koala. So she sends me a picture of 1774 01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:45.600 her mom holding a koala in Australia, and I thought 1775 01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:47.079 that was pretty cool. I'm like, I guess that's what 1776 01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:50.000 it is. And then like two hours later she wrote, 1777 01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:52.920 holy fucking shit, Shannon. She's like, I was just cleaning 1778 01:28:52.920 --> 01:28:55.520 my house. I found a stuffed koala and I remember 1779 01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:58.720 she did give me that, So it's like I'm getting 1780 01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:02.000 full body chills again. So like that kind of thing 1781 01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:04.079 is like whenever I'm like, I guess I'm not that 1782 01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:06.199 good at that. Like it just you have to know, 1783 01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:08.720 it's like some things have to come together in just 1784 01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:10.000 the perfect way. 1785 01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:12.199 You're almost just a conduit for that. 1786 01:29:14.199 --> 01:29:15.840 Most of the time I can do, you know, when 1787 01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:18.640 we when I do a reading, it's we're in like 1788 01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:20.520 when we sit down with the intention to do that, 1789 01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:25.159 that's what happens. And sometimes it's like pulling teeth. Sometimes 1790 01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:26.239 you're like, come on. 1791 01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:28.600 Come on, oh, and I can tell you on that too. 1792 01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:31.000 I Mean, there's been times where I've had I've done 1793 01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:34.359 past life regressions and it goes so easy, and it'll 1794 01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:37.880 go it'll go easy with people who I think will 1795 01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:40.920 probably have a difficult time with it, and then there 1796 01:29:40.920 --> 01:29:43.199 will be some other people and I'm like, oh, yeah, 1797 01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:44.600 this one, this one will be easy, and then it 1798 01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:48.800 doesn't work, and not everybody's kind of like ready for 1799 01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:51.319 you know, stuff like that, or maybe they're closed off 1800 01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:52.880 to it. They don't want to surrender to it. They 1801 01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:55.199 don't they don't like not having any kind of control 1802 01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:59.359 whenever they go into a hypnosis or deep meditation or anything. 1803 01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:03.600 U And I've always felt like the timing has to 1804 01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:05.680 be right for that person. It's it has nothing to 1805 01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:06.159 do with me. 1806 01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:09.960 You know, you're the facilitator, that's it. 1807 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:12.920 Yeah, yeah, Nicholas, what are your thoughts there? 1808 01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:18.880 Question for Shannon, does like the signals and feelings and 1809 01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:24.920 things that happen. Does yawning mean anything to you? Whenever 1810 01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:26.760 it comes to signals. 1811 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:32.600 Not for me personally, but like, do you mean as 1812 01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:35.560 far as like a sign that spirits with you for 1813 01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:37.920 me personally? No, but is that something that you feel? 1814 01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:39.960 Yes, for sure, just curious. 1815 01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:43.479 Some people have different nervous systems, like for example, I 1816 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:46.960 mean some people we all do. I feel tingles only 1817 01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:49.079 on my right side. I don't know why that is. 1818 01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:51.439 Other people might feel it on their left side. And 1819 01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:53.239 I've had other mediums say I feel it only on 1820 01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:55.680 my right side too, Like right now, I'm feeling like 1821 01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:57.920 I know their spirit with us because we talk about 1822 01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:01.399 them and we talk about the they're so excited to 1823 01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:04.479 like that we're getting it and that we're communicating with them. 1824 01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:06.880 And so sometimes I don't know. It's like is it 1825 01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:10.239 a spear guide or is it someone's you know, mom 1826 01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:14.119 or something, And that's I usually just say who is it? 1827 01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:16.680 Like who's there? In this case, it feels more like 1828 01:31:16.720 --> 01:31:21.119 our collective souls kind of hanging around and they're like, yeah, yeah, 1829 01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:23.960 you get it, Like I'm so glad that you see us. 1830 01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.880 And then when you do see them or see a 1831 01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:28.720 sign from them, it's always good to say thank you, 1832 01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:31.039 I see you, because then they'll just realize that you 1833 01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:33.520 get it, and it'll be easier for them to start 1834 01:31:33.560 --> 01:31:36.159 showing you things knowing that you get their language, and 1835 01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:38.760 then it gets easier and easier. And there's some souls 1836 01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:41.479 like Maddie's mom that are just so easy to connect with, 1837 01:31:41.600 --> 01:31:43.199 and I don't know why they're so good at it, 1838 01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:46.720 but she said she was like that in person. She's 1839 01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:49.960 a really good communicator. She was very high energy. She said. 1840 01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:53.359 She reminds me of you a lot, and so I 1841 01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:55.720 think also it's like our frequency. Like her mom and 1842 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:58.600 I were just instant best friends from the other side 1843 01:31:58.600 --> 01:32:00.600 because her mom was just like bubbly and love people 1844 01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:04.079 and like talking and love travels. So she was very 1845 01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:06.600 high energy and still is. And I consider her sort 1846 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:11.000 of one of my unofficial guides like sometimes because I've 1847 01:32:11.039 --> 01:32:13.119 been able to connect with her. Anytime I bring her up, 1848 01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:15.920 she gives me chills. And I've kept in touch with 1849 01:32:15.960 --> 01:32:18.199 her daughter, and it's like my little sister. 1850 01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:18.479 Now. 1851 01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:21.760 That's like comforting to know that there are people on 1852 01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:25.359 the other side, and it's like, don't even trip you know, 1853 01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:28.359 You're like we're over here, we're watching over you, we're 1854 01:32:28.399 --> 01:32:30.319 with you at every moment, we're with your sister at 1855 01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:32.520 every moment, we're with your kids at every moment. It's 1856 01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:38.239 like it's comforting to know that it's almost like I 1857 01:32:38.279 --> 01:32:41.119 don't know, just everywhere all the time, you know, And 1858 01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:46.000 that's cool because you know, everybody worries about what's going 1859 01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:49.680 to happen as soon as that time comes, and it's 1860 01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:52.720 really like, yo, this is the hard part. It seems 1861 01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:55.479 like this, like this reality is the hard part. So 1862 01:32:55.560 --> 01:32:58.159 we should be celebrating being able to go on the 1863 01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:01.680 other side, whether it is jumping into another cycle of 1864 01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:05.119 reincarnation or just taking some time off and just like 1865 01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:08.279 floating around in the ether or whatever. It's like, it 1866 01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:11.680 seems like a pretty pretty good time on that side. 1867 01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:11.920 You know. 1868 01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:17.079 Everyone describes it as like perfection. No matter what you 1869 01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:19.520 choose to do, you're cool, You're good, And. 1870 01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:21.880 I like, so I like to imagine that that's what 1871 01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:25.279 we experience whenever we're in some kind of trance state, 1872 01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:27.880 whether no matter what that is. You know, like I 1873 01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:31.279 think that whenever you go into a super deep meditation, 1874 01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:34.640 like man, there's just ultimate peace that you get. And 1875 01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:37.279 we actually just did. We mentioned sad Guru in the 1876 01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:40.359 most recent episode about how he knew that he was 1877 01:33:40.439 --> 01:33:44.039 kind of like like a guru or on his way 1878 01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:47.359 to enlightenment or whatever. Whenever he went into a deep 1879 01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:50.079 meditation and he didn't even know that he was in 1880 01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:52.399 there for for very long. Turns out he was meditating 1881 01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:57.119 for six straight days, and he goes, I knew then 1882 01:33:57.159 --> 01:34:00.399 whenever I came out that all of this is just 1883 01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:05.439 an illusion, and it's given a facade that that it's 1884 01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:09.439 not all together, that it's that it's all segregated and 1885 01:34:09.479 --> 01:34:11.800 disconnected and stuff like that, but it's really all just 1886 01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:15.039 one thing. Because whenever he was that deep in meditation, 1887 01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:18.800 he was able to see that, like it's this is 1888 01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:22.520 all just a dream essentially. Yeah, And I just I 1889 01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:25.399 love that kind of stuff, you know, like whenever you're 1890 01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:27.840 able to just look around and be like, oh wow, 1891 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.880 this could just be this could just be part of 1892 01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:33.520 a dream. It's not even like a real reality. It's 1893 01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.760 it makes it more fun in that sense. And if 1894 01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:38.039 you really think about it, like whether you call it 1895 01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:41.760 a dream or a nightmare, I mean that's heaven and hell, right, 1896 01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:43.800 Like call it whatever you want. Almost it's almost the 1897 01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:47.960 same exact thing. But Nora, you have your hand up, dear, 1898 01:34:48.039 --> 01:34:49.319 what are your what's on your mind? 1899 01:34:50.680 --> 01:34:54.520 Dannin? Oh my god, I can't believe it took me 1900 01:34:54.600 --> 01:35:00.640 this long to have this revelation about your reading. First, 1901 01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:05.920 thank you so so much for reading into the the 1902 01:35:05.960 --> 01:35:09.119 people that I've known that have passed on. But there 1903 01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:13.000 is a person, and I cannot believe I forgot about him. 1904 01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:15.520 I can because this happens all the time. That's why 1905 01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:17.319 I was like, I'm not going to freak out about it. 1906 01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:19.880 I'm just gonna wait for the boomerang to come back. 1907 01:35:22.279 --> 01:35:28.560 But other than the name Rick or Dick, everything else 1908 01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:33.560 from the woodworking, the alcohol, that cancer, and the pain 1909 01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:40.359 in the chest that is my granddaddy, my mother's birth father. 1910 01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:44.439 Oh got it? And so yeah, and I don't even 1911 01:35:44.439 --> 01:35:49.199 know if Rick is it was from earlier today. Okay, 1912 01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:53.279 thank you, don't tell me yet, but yes, I do 1913 01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:55.600 want to know, but don't tell me yet. I know 1914 01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:57.680 because I wanted to say like Charles or something like that, 1915 01:35:57.720 --> 01:36:02.359 but I'm not quite sure, so this would be okay 1916 01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:05.760 tem recap for me. Nor Thank you Norah for letting 1917 01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:08.680 me know the what were the things that resonated because 1918 01:36:08.720 --> 01:36:10.840 sometimes if I repeat them it kind of brings him back. 1919 01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:19.479 Yeah, the woodworking, alcoholism, the not being as good of 1920 01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:21.319 a father as he could have been to. 1921 01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:30.520 Other to your mother's as you said, your mother, yes, ma'am. Okay, okay, good, good, 1922 01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:33.079 good good, thank you. It's called psychic gamnesia, and it's 1923 01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:35.680 totally normal. It happens in every reading. I always get 1924 01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:37.640 emails like the next day being like, oh my gosh, 1925 01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:40.039 I just realized this. So that's why I've learned not 1926 01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:42.560 to panic, because I'm like, okay, we're on the show, 1927 01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:45.279 and you know, like I wanted to resonate, but it's 1928 01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:47.199 not about me. It's about the message getting through the 1929 01:36:47.199 --> 01:36:49.720 way it's meant to get through. And so that would 1930 01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:53.279 make sense that he was apologizing to your mother about 1931 01:36:53.319 --> 01:36:55.000 not really being was he sort of in and out 1932 01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:57.880 throughout her life and not like consistent, because it seems 1933 01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:00.800 like he was there sometimes and not other times. And 1934 01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:02.399 it felt to me like when I was seeing and 1935 01:37:02.439 --> 01:37:04.079 I don't know if he drank Miller like, but that 1936 01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:07.399 was like I kept seeing him with like a gold 1937 01:37:07.479 --> 01:37:10.159 can of beer and it at a lot of times. 1938 01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:12.520 The disappearing had to do with that, but also it 1939 01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:16.000 was sort of like escaping from I mean escaping from 1940 01:37:16.039 --> 01:37:18.600 everything from like his responsibility. But it just felt like 1941 01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:20.359 did he start another family or something? 1942 01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:27.640 Yes, and kinda I'm not sure of the kind of 1943 01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:32.000 alcohol he was into, but yes, he was very much 1944 01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:36.319 in and out of my mother's life because of the alcoholism. 1945 01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:44.439 Sorry, was there someone named Danny? Okay, keep it in 1946 01:37:44.479 --> 01:37:47.039 mind just in case. I just I spit it out 1947 01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:49.319 because sometimes things just like suddenly come and I didn't 1948 01:37:49.319 --> 01:37:51.000 want to overlook it. And and I don't know that 1949 01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:52.920 cheeseburgers have to do with him, but I'm just running 1950 01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:55.640 that by you again. Again, That's something I could have 1951 01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:58.800 totally made up in my mind, but I just wanted 1952 01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:00.640 to see about that. But that made sense as long 1953 01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:03.079 as those things match, I think that's why he's And 1954 01:38:03.119 --> 01:38:06.560 there's something about his wedding ring he just showed me, 1955 01:38:07.279 --> 01:38:10.800 So what is it. It just looks like a like 1956 01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:13.039 a plain gold band and that I have the feeling of, 1957 01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:17.600 like obviously when someone passes people inherit this ring? But 1958 01:38:17.680 --> 01:38:19.640 did someone put it on a chain. And there's something 1959 01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:21.720 about his wedding ring that feels important? Do you know 1960 01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:24.960 what that would be like someone did someone? 1961 01:38:25.159 --> 01:38:31.039 Oh, go ahead, Perhaps it's not a ring, but one 1962 01:38:31.039 --> 01:38:34.159 of the things that my mother kept and they rekindled 1963 01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:36.319 their relationship goods. 1964 01:38:37.279 --> 01:38:42.199 And the way that he passed was also cancer. He 1965 01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:46.720 had a coughing fit. He said that he had a 1966 01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:53.399 big weight in his chest right before he died. But 1967 01:38:53.520 --> 01:39:00.000 my mom saved his watch that he always wore. That's 1968 01:39:00.039 --> 01:39:02.680 silver and color in my kitchen right now. 1969 01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:05.680 Okay, I wonder if that's what it is like something 1970 01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:08.239 that I don't want to make that one fit, even 1971 01:39:08.279 --> 01:39:11.319 though that's great. I think it's also like, see if 1972 01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:14.399 something comes up about his actual wedding ring, it may 1973 01:39:14.399 --> 01:39:16.359 be that your mom has it it, maybe that someone 1974 01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:19.960 put it on a chain or something. Was he married 1975 01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:22.880 and up until the end or not, or did your 1976 01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:24.720 grandma leave him or whatever? 1977 01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:33.600 His second wife I called her my great aunt. But 1978 01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:38.560 his second wife passed a year before he did. 1979 01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:39.520 Okay, And. 1980 01:39:41.199 --> 01:39:44.439 What was it last week or two weeks ago? It 1981 01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:47.840 was the anniversary of his death. 1982 01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:52.039 Oh, I want, I don't know what it'll I think 1983 01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:54.640 it's always I'll tell you. All I see is his 1984 01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:56.680 hand on a wedding ring. And so again, sometimes I 1985 01:39:56.680 --> 01:39:58.960 don't know what that you know, that could be a 1986 01:39:59.039 --> 01:40:00.840 million things, But let me just see if he wants 1987 01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:03.279 to say anything about it. I almost feel just come 1988 01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:06.319 come back if it does come to you, let Jonathan 1989 01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:09.119 or Sean know, because I do feel like it's something 1990 01:40:09.159 --> 01:40:11.920 where I don't think you know it. I think you 1991 01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:14.399 probably just don't know. But it's like he had he's 1992 01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:17.960 either pointing to, like his wedding ring, and I do 1993 01:40:18.079 --> 01:40:20.560 I don't think it's about the marriage, but about the 1994 01:40:20.640 --> 01:40:23.319 ring itself. So I'll just I'm gonna trust myself on 1995 01:40:23.399 --> 01:40:26.000 this one only because I see it pretty clearly. So 1996 01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:28.720 but again, you just might not have that information, and 1997 01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:30.720 your mom might say, oh my god, I actually just 1998 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:32.239 took his wedding ring out or put it on a 1999 01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:35.840 chain or something of that nature. And then that there's 2000 01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:40.720 also something just I think about the place he was buried. 2001 01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:42.479 But I'm trying to figure out why he's talking about that. 2002 01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:45.119 It's like, was he actually buried as opposed to cremated? 2003 01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:45.560 Do you know. 2004 01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:49.399 Cremated? 2005 01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:52.640 Okay? But was he put in? Was there a headstone anyway? 2006 01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:56.159 Even though it was ashes, there's something about having a headstone, 2007 01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:57.720 and it might be like a family plot kind of 2008 01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:02.000 a situation. It's something about it. It was such a 2009 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:05.359 little flash and it just saw like a headstone. Uh So, 2010 01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:08.720 was there some like disagreement about whether he was to 2011 01:41:08.720 --> 01:41:11.359 be buried or cremated? Do you know? 2012 01:41:13.079 --> 01:41:19.079 No, he wanted to be cremated. He actually didn't care 2013 01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:20.319 either way. 2014 01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:21.760 But he was cremated. 2015 01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:29.199 Half of his ashes were spread on some kind of 2016 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:35.560 like somewhere in the Atlantic, some kind of Yeah, but 2017 01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:43.560 the other half of his ashes are actually in a. 2018 01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:48.720 Urn an living room right now. Okay, I don't know 2019 01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:50.800 what this is, but there's something about like a family 2020 01:41:51.920 --> 01:41:55.479 like I'm buried and I can't I can't quite tell 2021 01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:57.000 what it is. It's something there is some kind of 2022 01:41:57.039 --> 01:42:00.479 a headstone that feels important like I have to let 2023 01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:02.079 me know what it is. But also did he do 2024 01:42:02.119 --> 01:42:03.479 was he in the military at any point? 2025 01:42:04.199 --> 01:42:06.119 Yes, ma'am, okay, because I just saw that. 2026 01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:08.840 I just saw like the American flag be and I 2027 01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:11.319 don't know did he literally have a military funeral because 2028 01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:15.960 I just saw like the flag being placed over because 2029 01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:20.279 it feels like there's a military cemetery or something. So 2030 01:42:20.319 --> 01:42:22.520 even if his ashes aren't in it, there might still 2031 01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:25.119 be like a little headstone. It's white like it almost 2032 01:42:25.159 --> 01:42:27.079 looks like so I don't know if that's him, but 2033 01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:29.119 I just he just said, like, I'm in the military, 2034 01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:30.760 and so I didn't know if that had to do 2035 01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:34.520 with for piecing those things together, like the headstone, the military. 2036 01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:38.039 It just for some reason he meant so he showed 2037 01:42:38.159 --> 01:42:40.399 just if any of those things come together, the wedding ring, 2038 01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:42.880 it's like a white headstone, but he's saying, I'm not 2039 01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:46.920 buried with like my ashes are here and like, but 2040 01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:48.920 there's still a headstone in my that has my name 2041 01:42:48.960 --> 01:42:50.800 on it? Do you know anything about that? 2042 01:42:52.159 --> 01:42:52.239 Not? 2043 01:42:52.680 --> 01:42:56.159 Okay, go the headstone that couldn't lead to my other 2044 01:42:56.720 --> 01:43:04.000 grandfather could as well. Okay, yeah, my granddaddy's funeral, it's 2045 01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:05.359 celebrational life. 2046 01:43:05.680 --> 01:43:11.439 He had an American flag semi draped over one side 2047 01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:13.119 of his coffin. 2048 01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:15.680 That's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing that American flag, which 2049 01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:17.399 is like how I knew that he was military, just 2050 01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:21.079 because he showed me that draped over And then I 2051 01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:22.760 just wanted to know, though, is there like a dog 2052 01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:25.000 named Charlie on the other is there someone named Charlie? 2053 01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:28.000 And if it isn't it's a dog named Charlie? Do 2054 01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:28.640 you have a dog? 2055 01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:34.279 They at some point had a dog I'm not sure 2056 01:43:34.279 --> 01:43:35.000 about an aingo. 2057 01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:38.000 Okay, I've had this feeling like he's with a dog 2058 01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:39.840 on the other side because I'm hearing Charlie, So you 2059 01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:41.439 might have to. I don't know if your mom's open 2060 01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:45.279 to this kind of stuff, but I definitely heard Charlie 2061 01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:47.239 and I when I leaned into it, I'm like, I 2062 01:43:47.239 --> 01:43:49.479 think it's actually a dog. So just keep that in 2063 01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:54.840 mind as well. Was your there's somebody that has like 2064 01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:58.359 a Mexican or Spanish name, like Alberto or something that 2065 01:43:58.960 --> 01:44:02.039 is that on your side? Uh? Nora, I just thought 2066 01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:06.800 I heard, like Alberto. Anybody have that name? That's a 2067 01:44:06.840 --> 01:44:09.680 really unusual name so that I've never had. It feels 2068 01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:13.239 like it feels like someone speaking Spanish. Do you have 2069 01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:16.960 anyone in your family that's of Spanish descent or Mexican. 2070 01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:25.359 Not of Spanish descent. However, my my family's so complicated. 2071 01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:37.600 My uh uh step grandfather on my mother's side, I 2072 01:44:37.680 --> 01:44:43.239 call him Poppy. He's not of Spanish descent, however, he 2073 01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:45.319 speaks fluent Spanish. 2074 01:44:45.640 --> 01:44:46.760 Oh and he. 2075 01:44:46.800 --> 01:44:49.640 Wanted my mom to call him Poppy like father. 2076 01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:53.560 Oh huh. I don't know what I thought, like I 2077 01:44:53.600 --> 01:44:55.960 heard like Alberto or something. I just I don't know 2078 01:44:55.960 --> 01:44:59.920 if that's it. But again, if anyone remember like thing 2079 01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:02.560 that later, But thank you for letting me know, because 2080 01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:05.239 I'm like, I know there's something here, but sometimes it 2081 01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:07.159 just takes a minute to put the pieces together. And 2082 01:45:07.199 --> 01:45:09.520 it's not your fault. It's also that there's other stuff 2083 01:45:09.640 --> 01:45:11.399 that I'm You know, if I say the name Rick, 2084 01:45:11.439 --> 01:45:14.199 you might be thinking, oh, no, it has to be 2085 01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:17.079 that name, you know, And like, I still feel like 2086 01:45:17.079 --> 01:45:19.439 there's a Rick somewhere in the mix, But I don't know. 2087 01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:22.359 It could be totally unrelated. It could be someone I 2088 01:45:22.399 --> 01:45:25.039 have spirits in my house, Like, it could be totally 2089 01:45:25.039 --> 01:45:28.000 for somebody different. But sometimes when I say things and 2090 01:45:28.039 --> 01:45:30.720 like one of the things doesn't fit, that might fiar 2091 01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:31.159 you off. 2092 01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:39.279 The only Rick that comes to mind is an ex 2093 01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:47.600 of my mother's. She almost married and he took his 2094 01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:50.039 own life several several years ago. 2095 01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:54.680 Okay, that would be for sure, Like I mean, if 2096 01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:58.039 he's on the other side, I just but so did 2097 01:45:58.479 --> 01:46:00.960 this happen like befo, were they still going to get 2098 01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:02.880 married or had they called that off and then he passed? 2099 01:46:03.840 --> 01:46:09.159 They called that off because plot twust. He was also 2100 01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:15.920 an alcoholic and after they broke up, my mom never 2101 01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:18.640 said it in front of me. Yeah, but he used 2102 01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:19.960 to call him Rick the dick. 2103 01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:24.159 Oh my god, it was the time. 2104 01:46:24.640 --> 01:46:31.159 Why you just talked about how you had. 2105 01:46:31.119 --> 01:46:35.880 It's Rick the Dick. That's who it was the whole time. 2106 01:46:36.600 --> 01:46:39.920 That's That's the thing too, is like I think because 2107 01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:43.079 we have expectations of who we might hear from sometimes 2108 01:46:43.279 --> 01:46:45.399 and maybe you didn't, but like sometimes we think, oh, 2109 01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:48.000 my Grandma's going to come through. But even if you didn't, 2110 01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:50.520 I just got chills. If you didn't have a personal 2111 01:46:50.560 --> 01:46:54.760 relationship with Rick, your mom did so even and even 2112 01:46:54.800 --> 01:46:57.920 if she hated his guts, right, he's still from a 2113 01:46:57.960 --> 01:47:03.840 soul level, still coming through usually to apologize, you know, 2114 01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:06.479 for for that kind of behavior. But it makes so 2115 01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:09.000 much sense because I keep hearing Rick, Rick and like 2116 01:47:09.239 --> 01:47:12.439 Dick at the same time, so that it would make 2117 01:47:12.520 --> 01:47:19.760 sense that that's just him coming through. Yeah, that that 2118 01:47:19.800 --> 01:47:22.600 makes sense. I mean, there you go. So the pieces 2119 01:47:22.640 --> 01:47:24.960 do come together sometimes it's like a jigsaw. It's like 2120 01:47:26.119 --> 01:47:27.840 it's kind of like it takes a while to kind 2121 01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:30.039 of come together. Usually by the if I had sat 2122 01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:31.720 with you, if we'd just been you and me for 2123 01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:33.279 like a by the end of it, we go, oh 2124 01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:35.399 my god, I figured it all out. All the pieces 2125 01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:38.680 are coming together, and so thank you for speaking up 2126 01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:41.720 because that does I'm like, I know there's a spirit. 2127 01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:43.439 I feel it like I could feel it. 2128 01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:50.279 Yeah, thank you for doing everything that you do. You're 2129 01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:54.600 so sweet to connect to everybody. 2130 01:47:54.760 --> 01:47:56.880 You're so sweet and southern and I just adore you. 2131 01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:59.439 You're like so sweet and yeah, that's that's what it 2132 01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:03.079 would be, would be Rick coming through in one piece, 2133 01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:05.680 like Rick is no longer tortured soul. Rick is on 2134 01:48:05.720 --> 01:48:09.159 the other side. But more importantly, I can't say this 2135 01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:11.199 because I haven't heard him say it directly, but I 2136 01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:14.600 know from experience that he would be apologizing to your 2137 01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:17.800 to you and your any kind of havoc that he caused, 2138 01:48:17.840 --> 01:48:21.119 because that's what spirit. 2139 01:48:21.159 --> 01:48:21.279 You know. 2140 01:48:21.279 --> 01:48:23.319 They always they have their life review and they realize 2141 01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:25.720 like I was just you know, messed up, and I 2142 01:48:25.760 --> 01:48:27.319 didn't want to treat you like that, and I would 2143 01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:30.840 have been I wasn't capable of loving you because I couldn't. 2144 01:48:31.239 --> 01:48:33.760 I couldn't cope with my own stuff. 2145 01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:36.439 I think old Rick that Dick wanted us to take 2146 01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:38.439 the scenic route tonight, which is fine. 2147 01:48:38.640 --> 01:48:39.079 You know. 2148 01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:44.720 That make thank you Nora for that and sharing that 2149 01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:47.680 because I know it's you know, personal stuff, so it 2150 01:48:47.439 --> 01:48:49.880 it means a lot that you were able to share 2151 01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:54.119 your vulnerability publicly, which no one's judging. I just I 2152 01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:56.800 know it's not everybody's comfortable, So thank you for making it. 2153 01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:01.560 That's it. Okay, that makes so much. But you also 2154 01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:04.520 see how it can be. It's not all I see 2155 01:49:04.600 --> 01:49:07.600 is images, right or I like, and sometimes I'll get 2156 01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:09.720 something totally clear, but a lot of times it's just 2157 01:49:10.239 --> 01:49:11.560 let me show you this, let me show you this, 2158 01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:13.199 let me show you this, And so you and me 2159 01:49:13.720 --> 01:49:16.199 and Rick have to come together, and your grandpa and 2160 01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:18.239 your mom's side have to come together to put the 2161 01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:22.039 pieces together. And so it can be like let's play 2162 01:49:22.039 --> 01:49:25.600 a game of charade. Sounds like, looks like, and then 2163 01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:30.079 we forget and then, like I said, every time, someone 2164 01:49:30.119 --> 01:49:32.399 the next day is like I just remembered. So I'm 2165 01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:33.239 glad you said. 2166 01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:37.520 Something that was awesome. That was like a grand finale. 2167 01:49:39.439 --> 01:49:41.560 If anyone stuck around because they're like, this bitch doesn't 2168 01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:46.159 know what she's doing, fraud, but she does know what 2169 01:49:46.199 --> 01:49:48.359 she's doing. Thank you. Oh my god. Yeah, I have 2170 01:49:48.439 --> 01:49:52.920 major chills right now. So I just think Rick, even 2171 01:49:52.920 --> 01:49:55.279 if he was a dick, he now is pure love. 2172 01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:57.239 He even is pure love and sees the air of 2173 01:49:57.239 --> 01:50:00.279 his ways. And just like I still I want to 2174 01:50:00.279 --> 01:50:02.359 know if there's some gold bracelet involved with Rick, like 2175 01:50:02.399 --> 01:50:04.920 a baby brain something about a bracelet or something. Your 2176 01:50:04.920 --> 01:50:06.800 mom might have it, so just you might want to 2177 01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:10.159 if she's okay with talking about this stuff with you, 2178 01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:11.800 you might kind of run some of it by her 2179 01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:15.159 because I feel like there's more. But I think that 2180 01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:17.800 was a good example of how how it can be. 2181 01:50:17.880 --> 01:50:21.560 Kind of it's not a perfect science. It's little snips, 2182 01:50:21.560 --> 01:50:24.079 little dribs and drabs. And I'm like, what'd you say, 2183 01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:26.000 would you like talking to a kid? You know, You're like, 2184 01:50:26.079 --> 01:50:29.760 try to get the Oh yeah, there's no one name 2185 01:50:29.840 --> 01:50:31.720 Chloe though, right, that's that's something I might have made 2186 01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:32.319 up earlier. 2187 01:50:34.319 --> 01:50:36.880 No, ma'am, I mean we might need two more hours 2188 01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:41.600 to get to that one. But I know, man, this 2189 01:50:41.880 --> 01:50:44.880 is so awesome and and look, I loved seeing it 2190 01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:48.399 like all you know unfold, but it. 2191 01:50:48.359 --> 01:50:50.159 Is fun for me. It's fun for me too, So 2192 01:50:50.199 --> 01:50:53.520 in a way, sometimes you just got to have patience. 2193 01:50:53.520 --> 01:50:55.399 I've learned to be like, Nope, I know I'm getting it. 2194 01:50:55.600 --> 01:50:57.439 I know I'm getting it. Don't doubt it even if 2195 01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:02.359 they say no, just keep going, like, don't client just 2196 01:51:02.399 --> 01:51:04.680 reached out to me last week the whole She's like, 2197 01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:07.520 but but he's not saying what I want him to say. 2198 01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:09.800 And I was like, I don't know what. He's showing 2199 01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:11.920 me a dragonfly? Well, yes, that was very important to him, 2200 01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:14.319 but what does he want to say, But what does 2201 01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:16.359 that mean? Yeah, and I'm like, he wants you to 2202 01:51:16.399 --> 01:51:19.079 know he's there, he's mentioning dragonflies. And she's like that 2203 01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:21.159 was huge. And then two weeks later she's like, I 2204 01:51:21.159 --> 01:51:23.159 have to talk to you right now. I realize some 2205 01:51:23.199 --> 01:51:26.079 old things so and I actually like it when people 2206 01:51:26.079 --> 01:51:27.960 do that. I'm like, please, please, so that I know 2207 01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:30.600 that I was on the right track, right right right? 2208 01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:32.560 Yeah, Well, you know, you don't have to prove anything 2209 01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:34.720 to us, because I mean, I mean, already you. 2210 01:51:36.199 --> 01:51:39.079 Have given me just the most amazing reading. 2211 01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:41.880 That's one of the things I've told Jonathan just recently 2212 01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:44.840 that whenever I think back to that, that's one of 2213 01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:49.039 those mystical type of spiritual experiences that really brings me back. 2214 01:51:49.319 --> 01:51:52.479 You know, it's like, Okay, there's definitely something to that. 2215 01:51:52.680 --> 01:51:55.119 You know, whenever you start to get a little more 2216 01:51:55.520 --> 01:51:58.039 logical leaning, you know, and then you think back to 2217 01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:00.319 something like that, and it's like, there's no way that 2218 01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:02.920 she could have came up with all of those key 2219 01:52:02.920 --> 01:52:06.279 words that just lined up so perfectly with with you know, 2220 01:52:06.359 --> 01:52:07.600 my stepdad. 2221 01:52:07.560 --> 01:52:09.479 And I just he just showed I just saw again 2222 01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:11.479 that scar I told you he had on his stomach 2223 01:52:11.520 --> 01:52:13.560 and like he just showed me his belly with his 2224 01:52:13.720 --> 01:52:16.640 scar down his heat again and I'm like just saying 2225 01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:19.760 he's there again, like shout out Bobby. 2226 01:52:20.279 --> 01:52:23.680 Yeah, yeah, he had no no problem showing that off. 2227 01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:26.199 You know what I mean. He would just show strangers, 2228 01:52:26.239 --> 01:52:27.560 you know, you know, just like. 2229 01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:29.399 That's why you sing it again, he like lifted it. 2230 01:52:29.479 --> 01:52:32.640 He's like he's like showing me his belly with the 2231 01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:37.000 long scar down. It as like oh yeah, oh yeah, 2232 01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:38.720 yeah that's how I picture. 2233 01:52:38.840 --> 01:52:42.000 I love it, dude. I just love this kind of stuff. 2234 01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:45.199 It's just it's you know, what do you do with it? 2235 01:52:45.359 --> 01:52:47.960 You know, how do you compartmentalize it? I don't even 2236 01:52:48.039 --> 01:52:49.960 know if you're supposed to come mart, You're. 2237 01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:51.760 Just supposed to know that there's more and that even 2238 01:52:51.800 --> 01:52:53.720 though I say I don't have all the answers, I 2239 01:52:53.720 --> 01:52:56.199 don't know. Was Jesus a guy? Was he an ascended master? 2240 01:52:56.359 --> 01:52:59.079 Is he got in a human form? I'm open to 2241 01:52:59.159 --> 01:53:03.039 it all. I know anything's possible, but I'm going to 2242 01:53:03.039 --> 01:53:04.800 be a skeptic until I see it for myself. 2243 01:53:04.920 --> 01:53:08.920 Yeah, right, Sean, what is that tarot card? 2244 01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:09.159 Sir? 2245 01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:12.680 H Yeah, we got the Nine of Pentacles when we 2246 01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:14.239 were talking about Pentacles earlier. 2247 01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:15.199 Get out of here. 2248 01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:17.840 I have pulled that card like three times for myself 2249 01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:21.319 in the last three days, really right, pulling it over 2250 01:53:21.319 --> 01:53:21.960 and over and over. 2251 01:53:22.520 --> 01:53:24.960 Usually I have to shuffle quite a bit to get 2252 01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:26.800 something to happen, and this one just kind. 2253 01:53:26.640 --> 01:53:29.600 Of popped right out because it was for me, like 2254 01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:32.920 leaped out. Yeah, because I keep pulling it for myself 2255 01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:33.439 this week. 2256 01:53:34.439 --> 01:53:38.279 So the Nine of Pentacles, it says, luxuriate in your prosperity, 2257 01:53:38.359 --> 01:53:40.840 feeling gratitude for all that you've been able to achieve. 2258 01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:42.680 This is our first time ever pulling this card on 2259 01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:46.399 the show. It says the Nine of Pentacles implores you 2260 01:53:46.520 --> 01:53:50.039 to relax and enjoy the comfortable surroundings you've cultivated for yourself. 2261 01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:53.119 A woman stands in her garden, serene and unafraid to 2262 01:53:53.119 --> 01:53:56.439 get her hands dirty despite her lavish flower printed robe, 2263 01:53:56.720 --> 01:53:59.800 which is reminiscent of the robe worn by the Empress. 2264 01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:02.520 She knows how to receive the energies of abundance and 2265 01:54:02.640 --> 01:54:05.439 is equally suited to putting in any work necessary to 2266 01:54:05.439 --> 01:54:08.000 tend to her home on her hands. It's a bird 2267 01:54:08.079 --> 01:54:10.720 wearing a hood, a symbol of her instinct to guard 2268 01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:16.640 against materialism while enjoying prosperity. The upright key meanings of 2269 01:54:16.680 --> 01:54:20.239 it are success and enjoyment, and the spiritual connotation to 2270 01:54:20.319 --> 01:54:22.960 it says you've been putting your energy into making your 2271 01:54:22.960 --> 01:54:27.119 home more personal and comforting by redecorating or renovating, or 2272 01:54:27.239 --> 01:54:29.680 if you've been away from your home, you've spent time 2273 01:54:29.720 --> 01:54:32.880 taking a vacation and relaxing. Focus on what brings you 2274 01:54:32.920 --> 01:54:36.159 the most peace, enjoyment, rejuvenates your spirit. 2275 01:54:37.479 --> 01:54:39.920 Hell, yeah, this is it. 2276 01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:43.079 This is what I love to do, so we're doing it, 2277 01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:44.880 And this is what you guys love to do. 2278 01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:48.479 This is yeah, it's best, Oh dude. It's like you know, 2279 01:54:48.520 --> 01:54:52.920 whenever I whenever I went to Arizona and me and 2280 01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:56.079 Sean picked me up from the airport and I was like, 2281 01:54:56.119 --> 01:54:58.760 you know what, dude, Like I for the longest time, 2282 01:54:58.840 --> 01:55:02.439 this song came out, and I just imagined, that's going 2283 01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:03.920 to be my life one day. That's going to be 2284 01:55:03.920 --> 01:55:07.159 my life one day. And it's called it's by the 2285 01:55:07.199 --> 01:55:11.680 Dirty Heads. It's called vacation, and it's like a I'm 2286 01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:15.439 on vacation every single day because I love my occupation. 2287 01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:18.000 And I just I was like, holy shit, that I 2288 01:55:18.039 --> 01:55:19.920 want that to be my life, Like I want to 2289 01:55:20.119 --> 01:55:22.920 enjoy what I do. I want to enjoy waking up 2290 01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:26.199 every day and just like every day is another it's 2291 01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:28.399 just another day with your feet in the sand kind 2292 01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:29.079 of idea. 2293 01:55:29.239 --> 01:55:32.399 That's it, man, So on our way, on the way. 2294 01:55:32.319 --> 01:55:35.439 Dude, I can wait to join you for some of 2295 01:55:35.479 --> 01:55:39.640 the travels. Well about doing an Arizona trip, but it 2296 01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:41.760 should be like fall when it's not so hot. 2297 01:55:42.279 --> 01:55:44.039 Well, it's terrible right now, it's like one hundred and 2298 01:55:44.039 --> 01:55:44.600 ten today. 2299 01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:49.680 Let me tickle your proverbial fancy here, and I'm gonna 2300 01:55:49.720 --> 01:55:54.199 say I am. I'm literally as of yesterday, I decided 2301 01:55:54.199 --> 01:55:57.560 that I'm going to be moving to Arizona in the fall. 2302 01:55:57.800 --> 01:55:59.079 So it's funny. 2303 01:55:59.199 --> 01:56:04.000 It psychic information. You're connected, dude, where are you allowed 2304 01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:08.319 to tell us? Yeah, Lake Havasu. Okay, great. I don't 2305 01:56:08.319 --> 01:56:11.600 even know how far lake where Lake Havasu exactly is. 2306 01:56:11.560 --> 01:56:14.399 But it's right on the border of Arizona in California. 2307 01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:16.680 That's what. Yeah, it's pretty clear. Oh perfect, Oh great? 2308 01:56:17.520 --> 01:56:19.520 Oh yeah, yeah, so I'm going to be moving out there. 2309 01:56:19.720 --> 01:56:21.920 I'm only I'm not going to be living out there 2310 01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:23.119 for the rest of my life, although I. 2311 01:56:23.079 --> 01:56:25.119 Would love to stationing yourself there just. 2312 01:56:25.079 --> 01:56:27.520 For you know, six to nine months or something like that, 2313 01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:29.159 to try and get all my ducks in a row, 2314 01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:33.720 ducks and and yeah, just trying to get it all together. 2315 01:56:33.960 --> 01:56:37.479 And yeah, which I'm really excited about because Sean lives there, 2316 01:56:37.600 --> 01:56:40.119 my parents, actually, my parents live in Lake Havasu. I 2317 01:56:40.159 --> 01:56:42.960 was born in Lake Havasu, and I know that. Yeah, 2318 01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:45.720 i have a big connection to Arizona in general. So 2319 01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:48.479 I'm really excited to move back, even though it's just temporary. 2320 01:56:48.479 --> 01:56:48.920 Where are you? 2321 01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:51.560 Oh, I I'm in Phoenix, That's right. 2322 01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:54.039 I knew that. Yes, Oh great, Okay, I'm excited. 2323 01:56:54.680 --> 01:56:54.960 Yeah. 2324 01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:59.239 So we're gonna have to triangulate sometime, but I think 2325 01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:00.760 right now we'll we're going to do is we're going 2326 01:57:00.840 --> 01:57:02.960 to get over to the meditation, then we'll have a 2327 01:57:02.960 --> 01:57:07.119 little conversation afterward. Shannon. For anybody that is not going 2328 01:57:07.159 --> 01:57:09.960 to be joining us on that meditation and they're going 2329 01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:13.680 to be ending the episode here in just a few minutes, 2330 01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:15.239 could you tell them where they can find you? 2331 01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:18.079 Well, thank you for asking. You can find me at 2332 01:57:18.319 --> 01:57:24.279 Magic Isrealservices dot com. You can find the you know, 2333 01:57:24.359 --> 01:57:28.560 I need to organize that website better. Magic is Real. 2334 01:57:28.680 --> 01:57:31.960 The podcast is on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts, 2335 01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:38.000 and so if yeah, just if there's like, uh, it's 2336 01:57:38.119 --> 01:57:40.479 under Magic is Real one one one I think on 2337 01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:44.239 YouTube and I need to merge things with my website. 2338 01:57:44.279 --> 01:57:47.239 So or you can just email me at Magic Isreel 2339 01:57:47.319 --> 01:57:50.720 Shannon at gmail dot com and follow me at Real 2340 01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:53.640 Magic Shannon on Instagram and you can reach me there 2341 01:57:53.680 --> 01:57:54.119 as well. 2342 01:57:54.640 --> 01:57:56.920 I'm going to need your voice to speak to me 2343 01:57:57.000 --> 01:57:59.479 whenever it's given me directions and I'm going down the 2344 01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:01.880 road because you sound like you have the perfect voice 2345 01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:02.199 for that. 2346 01:58:03.079 --> 01:58:06.439 I just was shortlisted for a car GPS voice, which 2347 01:58:06.479 --> 01:58:10.439 I hope that's my dream. I'm like, just let me 2348 01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:11.720 be the voice. Turn right. 2349 01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:15.600 I'm always gonna turn right if you tell me to 2350 01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:16.520 turn right? Would that be. 2351 01:58:18.159 --> 01:58:19.920 The voice I know? 2352 01:58:20.159 --> 01:58:24.039 But yeah, yes, all right, Well look the one out there. 2353 01:58:24.159 --> 01:58:28.840 We usually shoot the live shows on Wednesdays, so this 2354 01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:30.840 is I don't know if it's necessarily a one off. 2355 01:58:30.840 --> 01:58:32.680 We'll probably do it again at some point in the future. 2356 01:58:32.680 --> 01:58:35.159 But typically what we do is we shoot the live 2357 01:58:35.199 --> 01:58:37.399 shows on Wednesdays. We call it wonder Wednesday, where we 2358 01:58:37.439 --> 01:58:40.479 get all of the one together to uh have a conversation. 2359 01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:43.199 Sometimes we have great guests, sometimes it's just great topics. 2360 01:58:44.039 --> 01:58:46.720 And as a matter of fact, Sean our boy Nogel 2361 01:58:46.720 --> 01:58:47.920 Perryman just reached out. 2362 01:58:48.399 --> 01:58:50.960 Oh dude, it's been way too long. It has way 2363 01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:53.399 too long, and I'd be really interested to see kind 2364 01:58:53.399 --> 01:58:56.439 of just the conversation we can have with the lens 2365 01:58:56.520 --> 01:58:57.880 and the understandings that we've come to. 2366 01:58:58.039 --> 01:59:01.439 Man, you know for sure he's the man. So if 2367 01:59:01.439 --> 01:59:03.359 you want to be involved on these live shows, maybe 2368 01:59:03.399 --> 01:59:04.880 you want to put in your two cents, you just 2369 01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:07.640 want to be in the aura of the one. Then 2370 01:59:07.680 --> 01:59:09.960 you got to patreon dot com slash Meta Mysteries that 2371 01:59:10.000 --> 01:59:12.560 links down the show notes below. Over there you will 2372 01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:14.760 be able to slide into our dms. You'll be able 2373 01:59:14.840 --> 01:59:16.680 to get the shows a couple of days in advance. 2374 01:59:16.680 --> 01:59:19.159 You'll be able to see all the video and it's 2375 01:59:19.159 --> 01:59:22.920 always completely commercial free. So it's the best way to 2376 01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:26.239 be in the zone over here, and we appreciate everybody 2377 01:59:26.279 --> 01:59:30.319 who has supported us in that way. We also have YouTube, 2378 01:59:30.399 --> 01:59:32.640 so if you go to YouTube dot com slash Metamisteries, 2379 01:59:32.640 --> 01:59:34.359 you'll be able to see all the shows over there. 2380 01:59:35.359 --> 01:59:38.159 Those are posted on the same day that they're posted 2381 01:59:38.199 --> 01:59:40.840 to the Cult of Conspiracy podcast. But if you want 2382 01:59:40.840 --> 01:59:44.199 to get the shows one day in advance, then you 2383 01:59:44.239 --> 01:59:45.960 go over to the Meta Mysteries podcast. You be able 2384 01:59:45.960 --> 01:59:48.159 to listen over there one day in advance. So all 2385 01:59:48.199 --> 01:59:50.520 the different ways we have TikTok, we have Instagram, come 2386 01:59:50.560 --> 01:59:53.000 give us a little follow like our shit, and we 2387 01:59:53.039 --> 01:59:56.079 would appreciate all of you guys that have done that 2388 01:59:56.560 --> 01:59:59.600 so far. But I think right now we are going 2389 01:59:59.600 --> 02:00:05.000 to get over to the meditation, and I mean it 2390 02:00:05.000 --> 02:00:05.880 it' psych a Channon. 2391 02:00:06.159 --> 02:00:07.600 If she came here and she's. 2392 02:00:07.399 --> 02:00:10.279 On you anything, it's that you don't know what you 2393 02:00:10.439 --> 02:00:11.119 don't know. 2394 02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:15.159 So I'll just get weird, stay weird. 2395 02:00:16.960 --> 02:00:27.119 Inside your mind. Ordinary because color so stars lie. 2396 02:00:28.239 --> 02:00:30.560 In the mentum mysteries. 2397 02:00:30.680 --> 02:00:31.359 Your fine. 2398 02:00:32.560 --> 02:00:35.640 Man, that was such a good one. I so relaxed, 2399 02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:36.720 you did. 2400 02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:39.800 I don't know why. I just cried. I don't even 2401 02:00:39.840 --> 02:00:42.640 know why. I just think because I never stop. I 2402 02:00:42.720 --> 02:00:45.920 just never stop. And then I'm like, oh, there's some 2403 02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:49.000 sadness there or some relief or something. I don't know. 2404 02:00:49.600 --> 02:00:52.359 It's not bad, it's just like, oh, I think I 2405 02:00:52.399 --> 02:00:54.159 needed to get some tears out. 2406 02:00:54.920 --> 02:00:58.119 You know, I felt pretty similar, to be honest with you, 2407 02:00:58.239 --> 02:00:59.760 I mean I didn't feel emotional. 2408 02:00:59.800 --> 02:01:02.399 Let's just say, yeah, did you feel emotional? I felt emotional. 2409 02:01:02.720 --> 02:01:02.920 Yeah. 2410 02:01:02.960 --> 02:01:08.840 It was almost like, I don't know, releasing or yeah, 2411 02:01:09.159 --> 02:01:13.800 it felt motherly to me. Yeah, yeah, in a weird sense. 2412 02:01:13.960 --> 02:01:17.319 I don't know, man. And it's I think. First of all, 2413 02:01:17.399 --> 02:01:19.159 she has a great meditation voice. 2414 02:01:19.279 --> 02:01:19.800 She does. 2415 02:01:20.039 --> 02:01:21.760 That's yeah. 2416 02:01:21.800 --> 02:01:24.399 She was definitely hitting on that. But the tone too, 2417 02:01:24.680 --> 02:01:28.880 was kind of somber but almost comforting at the same time. 2418 02:01:29.560 --> 02:01:31.640 Who is the music? I don't know. I just felt 2419 02:01:31.640 --> 02:01:33.560 like I needed to cry, and I don't even know why. 2420 02:01:34.199 --> 02:01:34.800 Get it out of you. 2421 02:01:34.760 --> 02:01:36.760 You need to know why, No, we just need to 2422 02:01:36.800 --> 02:01:37.359 let it out. 2423 02:01:38.039 --> 02:01:39.039 Yeah, let it flow. 2424 02:01:39.359 --> 02:01:43.720 Yeah, dude, Yeah, that was that was that was pretty deep. 2425 02:01:44.760 --> 02:01:47.199 I felt like I needed that before we started recording. 2426 02:01:47.520 --> 02:01:51.680 I'm being honest. Yeah, you know, I today, I. 2427 02:01:51.600 --> 02:01:54.039 Probably would have given a better reading had I had 2428 02:01:54.039 --> 02:01:55.119 I meditated first. 2429 02:01:55.319 --> 02:01:55.479 You know. 2430 02:01:55.520 --> 02:01:58.800 What's funny actually, because I was listening to your podcast 2431 02:01:59.039 --> 02:02:02.319 and it was I think it was Dennis that was 2432 02:02:02.359 --> 02:02:04.880 talking in this particular one, and it might have been him, 2433 02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:07.640 and he was talking about the looney. 2434 02:02:07.319 --> 02:02:10.279 Tune, not Looney tones, the bugs, bunny bugs. 2435 02:02:09.960 --> 02:02:13.920 Bunny And sometime today, like a little bit before recording, 2436 02:02:14.079 --> 02:02:17.520 randomly I started whistling like the Looney tune song and 2437 02:02:17.560 --> 02:02:19.840 so but it was like something I didn't even think 2438 02:02:19.880 --> 02:02:23.199 about doing it, just it just happened, you know. And 2439 02:02:23.199 --> 02:02:25.720 and then it wasn't until we started recording and that 2440 02:02:25.760 --> 02:02:27.520 I thought about that, and I was like, oh, that's 2441 02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:29.640 that's weird, you know, yeah, maybe. 2442 02:02:29.399 --> 02:02:30.159 That's happened to that. 2443 02:02:30.800 --> 02:02:33.640 Yeah, sometimes that kind of thing happens where you're like, 2444 02:02:33.680 --> 02:02:35.439 I know, we just talked about that, but that's not 2445 02:02:35.479 --> 02:02:38.720 what this was. It came in somewhere else kind of thing. 2446 02:02:38.800 --> 02:02:42.680 Yeah. Yeah, super super bad episode was just super fast. 2447 02:02:42.720 --> 02:02:44.880 Were I know it's long, Were you able to finish it? 2448 02:02:44.920 --> 02:02:47.079 No, yeah, I think I believe I finished the whole thing, 2449 02:02:48.199 --> 02:02:51.520 so his experiences, and I think that's my favorite part 2450 02:02:51.720 --> 02:02:54.720 of you know, obviously what you're doing, and kind of 2451 02:02:54.760 --> 02:02:57.199 what we're trying to do too, is is let people 2452 02:02:57.279 --> 02:03:01.600 express their experiences, because I think experience dances are are 2453 02:03:01.680 --> 02:03:04.159 so huge, you know what, I know that we like 2454 02:03:04.279 --> 02:03:07.199 to downplay them as well. Maybe that's my own thoughts, 2455 02:03:07.279 --> 02:03:09.760 or maybe it's it. You know, it's just a dream, 2456 02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:13.439 it's it's nothing but the experiences that people are having. 2457 02:03:13.479 --> 02:03:17.039 I mean Nick Nick having his own experiences all the time. 2458 02:03:17.159 --> 02:03:21.079 It's like that's when I'm fascinated, you know, I'm really 2459 02:03:21.119 --> 02:03:24.960 fascinated with the experiences that people are having because there's something, 2460 02:03:25.399 --> 02:03:28.000 there's a reason, you know, like these things don't happen 2461 02:03:28.319 --> 02:03:28.880 for no reasons. 2462 02:03:28.880 --> 02:03:31.159 Everything is synchronicity. And I want to know everything about 2463 02:03:31.239 --> 02:03:37.079 Nick too at some point. So, but yeah, that's I was. 2464 02:03:37.199 --> 02:03:40.640 I was trying to be a little I guess what 2465 02:03:40.680 --> 02:03:45.079 was what's the word? I didn't know exactly what the 2466 02:03:45.159 --> 02:03:49.199 way and how and who specifically communicate with, so I 2467 02:03:49.279 --> 02:03:52.279 was trying to stay a little I guess objectively vague. 2468 02:03:52.319 --> 02:03:54.479 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 2469 02:03:53.840 --> 02:03:55.600 Yeah, So my stuff. 2470 02:03:56.000 --> 02:04:00.359 I think Jonathan and and Sean were like maybe beating 2471 02:04:00.399 --> 02:04:02.960 around the bush a little when they're asking around about 2472 02:04:02.960 --> 02:04:05.159 the extraterrestrial side. 2473 02:04:05.720 --> 02:04:10.079 Yeah, that's so long story short. 2474 02:04:10.319 --> 02:04:14.560 I about three years ago basically like heard my guides 2475 02:04:15.119 --> 02:04:18.840 for the first time, and they have had like a 2476 02:04:18.920 --> 02:04:24.000 pretty much back and forth dialogue like like this for 2477 02:04:24.039 --> 02:04:27.239 about three years whenever I like meditate and stuff, and 2478 02:04:27.399 --> 02:04:31.680 I've documented it at all and on like a telegram 2479 02:04:31.800 --> 02:04:33.760 channel and stuff. But it's got to the point where 2480 02:04:34.960 --> 02:04:39.079 like we can go out and go outside like at 2481 02:04:39.119 --> 02:04:42.000 the ranch or whatever and look up and they'll like. 2482 02:04:43.439 --> 02:04:47.239 Do cool stuff for us in the sky in Texas. 2483 02:04:48.279 --> 02:04:49.159 Yeah. 2484 02:04:49.239 --> 02:04:51.079 But I've got a bunch of crazy cool videos. And 2485 02:04:51.119 --> 02:04:53.399 then then like you know, I'll talk to them later 2486 02:04:53.439 --> 02:04:56.600 about certain like aspects like and thanking them for it, 2487 02:04:56.640 --> 02:04:58.640 and you know they'll be like, yeah, you know, well 2488 02:04:58.640 --> 02:05:00.840 they'll always come if we're able to, and you know 2489 02:05:00.880 --> 02:05:01.479 that kind of thing. 2490 02:05:02.600 --> 02:05:04.960 I want to know everything. I know. I want us 2491 02:05:05.000 --> 02:05:07.199 to all we all have to get to. We have 2492 02:05:07.199 --> 02:05:08.079 to do a CE five. 2493 02:05:09.720 --> 02:05:11.680 That would be great, Yeah, I want to that would 2494 02:05:11.680 --> 02:05:12.000 be great. 2495 02:05:12.119 --> 02:05:14.640 Under the influence, were above the. 2496 02:05:14.600 --> 02:05:15.640 Influence either way? 2497 02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:23.720 Yeah, yeah, Oh my god, that's so cool in California, right, Shannon, 2498 02:05:24.039 --> 02:05:27.199 I'm in l A. I'm in Laurel Canyon though, so 2499 02:05:27.239 --> 02:05:29.840 it's like very spiritual spot of l A. 2500 02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:30.880 Yeah. 2501 02:05:31.079 --> 02:05:34.000 Well, it's so gorgeous. You'll see it. It's you got 2502 02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:35.640 to when you'll have to head up to la But 2503 02:05:35.640 --> 02:05:39.239 I'll come visit you and we'll go to Sean. We'll 2504 02:05:39.279 --> 02:05:43.560 head over to Sean. I've never been to like Havasuit, 2505 02:05:43.640 --> 02:05:45.520 but I've heard of it a million times. 2506 02:05:45.800 --> 02:05:48.079 It's a pretty cool little spot. It's just like this 2507 02:05:48.199 --> 02:05:50.800 little oasis, you know, in the middle of the desert. 2508 02:05:51.039 --> 02:05:52.439 Really, I love Arizona. 2509 02:05:52.840 --> 02:05:53.560 It's really cool. 2510 02:05:53.640 --> 02:05:56.119 They have They used to have girls gone wild go 2511 02:05:56.199 --> 02:05:57.520 out there all the time for spring bird. 2512 02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:03.560 Oh yeah makes sense. Yeah, yeah, like boating and stuff 2513 02:06:03.600 --> 02:06:06.520 like I kind of know how I always thought of it. 2514 02:06:06.560 --> 02:06:08.159 I always thought it was like a dude broke place 2515 02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:08.439 to go. 2516 02:06:09.239 --> 02:06:12.279 I mean, it's a it's a girl chick place to 2517 02:06:12.319 --> 02:06:16.000 go to. There's a lot of everybody out there. It's 2518 02:06:16.000 --> 02:06:17.640 all it's crazy. It's pretty crazy. 2519 02:06:18.159 --> 02:06:18.600 Yeah. 2520 02:06:18.680 --> 02:06:21.319 Yeah, it is beautiful though. It's it's got the London 2521 02:06:21.359 --> 02:06:25.239 Bridge over there, and yeah, it's just I don't know, 2522 02:06:25.279 --> 02:06:26.680 it's my favorite place in the whole world. 2523 02:06:27.079 --> 02:06:30.479 Someone invited me there, but it's the guy that he's like, 2524 02:06:30.560 --> 02:06:33.600 I really like spending time with you, and I thought 2525 02:06:34.560 --> 02:06:36.880 it's I'm trying to not be mean, but you know, 2526 02:06:36.960 --> 02:06:39.680 he's just one of those feelings beautiful. He's very negative. 2527 02:06:39.680 --> 02:06:42.279 He's very very very very very very very negative all 2528 02:06:42.319 --> 02:06:44.199 the time. He's like the DeBie. He's a DeBie. He's 2529 02:06:44.399 --> 02:06:48.079 literally I know he struggles with depression and like he 2530 02:06:48.119 --> 02:06:50.199 doesn't get the girl. You know. He's like lanky, tall, 2531 02:06:50.239 --> 02:06:52.000 awkward guy and I've always tried to be nice to 2532 02:06:52.079 --> 02:06:54.159 him because I feel bad for him. But then he 2533 02:06:54.279 --> 02:06:56.000 just kind of like was like I want you to come, 2534 02:06:56.039 --> 02:06:57.920 and I was like, I am not staying in an 2535 02:06:58.039 --> 02:07:01.479 RV with you, like, you know, like he's I'm nice 2536 02:07:01.520 --> 02:07:03.199 to him because I'm like I feel that, you know, 2537 02:07:03.319 --> 02:07:06.840 it's hard. It's hard when you're like this goofy guy 2538 02:07:06.920 --> 02:07:09.199 with mental health issues and he's just trying to every 2539 02:07:09.199 --> 02:07:12.079 time I see him, he's like, well, I'm alive at least, 2540 02:07:14.239 --> 02:07:16.479 Like how you doing well? Didn't kill myself today? And 2541 02:07:16.479 --> 02:07:20.119 You're like, oh gee, you know, and I'm like I 2542 02:07:20.199 --> 02:07:21.039 just have to keep my bed. 2543 02:07:21.119 --> 02:07:21.920 You didn't do that. 2544 02:07:23.079 --> 02:07:24.840 He wanted me to go. He's like, I got like 2545 02:07:24.920 --> 02:07:26.880 this RV or something there, and I like would love 2546 02:07:26.920 --> 02:07:28.079 to for you to come and stay with him. I 2547 02:07:28.079 --> 02:07:32.000 was like, I literally there's no one a less rather 2548 02:07:32.079 --> 02:07:36.039 spend time with. So I just kind of was like, oh, thanks, 2549 02:07:37.239 --> 02:07:38.800 but yeah, So. 2550 02:07:39.079 --> 02:07:41.600 I did actually have one more question for you, and 2551 02:07:41.640 --> 02:07:44.560 it's only because, Okay, so I know that you're not 2552 02:07:44.680 --> 02:07:49.039 somebody that would necessarily require a Wiji board, but real quick, 2553 02:07:49.119 --> 02:07:51.000 what are your thoughts on the Wiji board. I know 2554 02:07:51.039 --> 02:07:53.960 you said that you don't typically see or you do 2555 02:07:54.000 --> 02:07:56.439 not see like dark spirits or anything like that, and 2556 02:07:56.479 --> 02:07:58.399 so what are your thoughts on the Ouiji board. 2557 02:07:59.079 --> 02:08:03.199 I'd love to hear your too, But I think people 2558 02:08:03.239 --> 02:08:05.560 think and I'm I, I don't mess I think I 2559 02:08:05.640 --> 02:08:09.039 just don't mess with it because I don't know. But 2560 02:08:09.079 --> 02:08:13.119 people will say it invites all kinds of dark spirits 2561 02:08:13.159 --> 02:08:16.079 in like as well, and there might be trickster spirits. 2562 02:08:16.079 --> 02:08:17.800 But then again, how do I know I'm not doing 2563 02:08:17.800 --> 02:08:20.920 that too? Like like for some people think tarot cards 2564 02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:23.439 are like, oh, you're just communicating with the devil, but 2565 02:08:23.479 --> 02:08:25.840 you could people also think I'm communicating with the devil. 2566 02:08:25.840 --> 02:08:29.199 And it's not real. So I don't know what the 2567 02:08:29.359 --> 02:08:31.319 I don't think for me, it's not the tool, it's 2568 02:08:31.359 --> 02:08:32.000 the intention. 2569 02:08:33.079 --> 02:08:33.840 What do you think Nick? 2570 02:08:34.000 --> 02:08:36.199 As someone who like basically I would say it's like 2571 02:08:36.239 --> 02:08:38.960 a channeler for lack of a term. 2572 02:08:38.840 --> 02:08:43.439 Yeah, yeah, so with me, So there's people like Bashar, right, 2573 02:08:43.600 --> 02:08:47.359 or like der Alanka. What he's doing is more I 2574 02:08:47.359 --> 02:08:49.960 would say, like traditional channeling. 2575 02:08:50.479 --> 02:08:52.439 Yeah, where you're just communicating. 2576 02:08:52.720 --> 02:08:53.880 Yeah, it's that. 2577 02:08:53.880 --> 02:08:57.399 That would be my understanding so far is like it's 2578 02:08:57.479 --> 02:09:03.479 just telepathic. Yeah, it's just like I'm there there. It's 2579 02:09:03.479 --> 02:09:08.760 almost like I'm reading their response to what. Yeah, it's 2580 02:09:08.760 --> 02:09:10.680 like all all what I do is I say it 2581 02:09:10.720 --> 02:09:14.520 all out loud and I record it on my voice 2582 02:09:14.520 --> 02:09:17.920 memo on my phone and then I say our conversation. 2583 02:09:18.239 --> 02:09:20.760 So I'll like I'll ask them something and then I'll 2584 02:09:20.800 --> 02:09:23.079 repeat what they tell me in my head and I'm 2585 02:09:23.119 --> 02:09:26.279 like almost reading their response, but I'm saying it out loud. Yeah, 2586 02:09:26.319 --> 02:09:29.000 So it's like I'm having a two way conversation with myself, 2587 02:09:29.039 --> 02:09:29.720 but not really. 2588 02:09:29.600 --> 02:09:32.000 I guess that is. I mean, if if someone was there, 2589 02:09:32.039 --> 02:09:34.840 you'd be conveying it, right, But like. 2590 02:09:34.800 --> 02:09:37.199 How did it come out of my mouth the whole time. 2591 02:09:38.199 --> 02:09:41.640 Yeah, I just think like for me, I again, I'm 2592 02:09:41.640 --> 02:09:43.520 not an expert on this, but I do feel like 2593 02:09:44.479 --> 02:09:46.840 if your vibration is high and you intend to connect 2594 02:09:46.840 --> 02:09:51.560 with higher vibrational spirits, you can. But I also know 2595 02:09:51.640 --> 02:09:53.079 that a lot of people are like, oh, the Ouiji 2596 02:09:53.159 --> 02:09:55.279 bord is so dangerous, and I just I don't know 2597 02:09:55.319 --> 02:09:57.199 why it would be as opposed to something else. But 2598 02:09:57.239 --> 02:09:59.479 I'm not going to fuck with it, Like I probably 2599 02:09:59.520 --> 02:10:01.760 wouldn't with it just in case, because I don't know. 2600 02:10:03.199 --> 02:10:07.399 It probably has a lot to do with just the 2601 02:10:07.439 --> 02:10:11.079 weird connotation that's always been surrounded by it, you know, 2602 02:10:11.279 --> 02:10:12.920 and not necessarily. 2603 02:10:12.359 --> 02:10:15.680 That's I don't think like there's a because also it 2604 02:10:15.720 --> 02:10:17.600 was like Hasbro came out with them or it was 2605 02:10:17.600 --> 02:10:20.000 like Fisher Price. But the other thing is I don't 2606 02:10:20.039 --> 02:10:23.359 like things where it requires, you know, like you're supposed 2607 02:10:23.359 --> 02:10:25.720 to rest your hand and nobody's supposed to move right, 2608 02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:27.840 But there's always that subconscious thing that you could be 2609 02:10:27.880 --> 02:10:31.000 subconsciously kind of pushing it. Although I've heard too many 2610 02:10:31.000 --> 02:10:34.359 stories to think that that's that that's the only way 2611 02:10:34.399 --> 02:10:34.760 it works. 2612 02:10:34.840 --> 02:10:35.920 Well, it's like dowsing rods. 2613 02:10:35.920 --> 02:10:37.880 At that point, I have dowsing rods. I kind of 2614 02:10:37.920 --> 02:10:40.760 feel like they're bullshit, but I got them out of curiosity, 2615 02:10:40.800 --> 02:10:46.960 Like I think they can, like at certain places work, 2616 02:10:47.079 --> 02:10:50.119 but I feel like they don't. I try. I just 2617 02:10:50.159 --> 02:10:52.039 wanted to see what they were like, and I felt like, 2618 02:10:52.479 --> 02:10:55.520 I don't. I don't think this is like yes or no. 2619 02:10:55.640 --> 02:10:56.000 I don't know. 2620 02:10:56.039 --> 02:10:56.319 I don't. 2621 02:10:56.439 --> 02:10:58.840 I feel like it can pick up on like energy 2622 02:10:59.000 --> 02:11:01.520 or like spirit, because it would start to what do 2623 02:11:01.520 --> 02:11:02.319 you I don't. I don't know. 2624 02:11:02.359 --> 02:11:09.000 I feel like my like my energy or intention around 2625 02:11:09.039 --> 02:11:12.119 it almost influences it way more than I want it to. 2626 02:11:12.399 --> 02:11:14.319 I do too. Same with the pendulum. I don't like 2627 02:11:14.359 --> 02:11:17.319 pendulums because I'm like, sometimes I'm like, oh, that really 2628 02:11:17.359 --> 02:11:19.119 is doing its own thing. But I'm like, but is 2629 02:11:19.159 --> 02:11:21.760 that because the earth is spinning or like is it 2630 02:11:21.800 --> 02:11:26.319 a magnetic pull? And sometimes it just doesn't. It's not consistent, 2631 02:11:26.600 --> 02:11:28.840 you know, It's like I think. I don't want to 2632 02:11:28.880 --> 02:11:32.239 say no, it never works, but I also, yeah. 2633 02:11:32.039 --> 02:11:33.800 I like the I think that I don't know, I've 2634 02:11:33.880 --> 02:11:35.359 never really mastered it, but. 2635 02:11:36.000 --> 02:11:38.039 No, I feel like I've got to play with it. 2636 02:11:38.079 --> 02:11:39.399 But I'm like, I don't know, I don't know if 2637 02:11:39.439 --> 02:11:40.039 I really buy this. 2638 02:11:40.520 --> 02:11:43.600 My introduction to dowsing rods came from my stepdad, who's 2639 02:11:43.800 --> 02:11:48.039 the like most you met You met my stepdad, right, Jonathan. 2640 02:11:48.399 --> 02:11:52.479 He's like the most country like you know, good old boy, 2641 02:11:52.600 --> 02:11:57.840 like not into any kind of esoteric anything at all, right, 2642 02:11:58.520 --> 02:12:02.399 and you know, pretty much everything's bullshit for him anyway. 2643 02:12:04.600 --> 02:12:09.920 And he got out, he called him, uh witching sticks 2644 02:12:10.000 --> 02:12:14.680 or something right, water witching and uh he he just 2645 02:12:14.720 --> 02:12:18.199 had two copper rods and we were looking. He told 2646 02:12:18.199 --> 02:12:19.840 me about him, and we went to He was just 2647 02:12:19.880 --> 02:12:24.079 trying to find the water line in the yard, like 2648 02:12:24.119 --> 02:12:26.119 the where the the pipe was, and he was just 2649 02:12:26.159 --> 02:12:28.960 walking around the yard and just trying to find where 2650 02:12:29.000 --> 02:12:31.439 the water line went. 2651 02:12:31.439 --> 02:12:32.279 So that we could dig. 2652 02:12:32.880 --> 02:12:35.600 And he's like walking around, he's and he used to 2653 02:12:35.640 --> 02:12:37.479 go across him when they crossed. You just dig where 2654 02:12:37.520 --> 02:12:41.079 the dig where the where they crossed and the water. 2655 02:12:40.920 --> 02:12:41.479 Line was there. 2656 02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:42.800 Yeah, that makes sense. 2657 02:12:42.800 --> 02:12:45.319 I'm like, I'm like, okay, well, is it like electromagnetic 2658 02:12:45.479 --> 02:12:48.000 or is it just your intention of looking for the 2659 02:12:48.039 --> 02:12:51.760 water line or is there water like actually affecting these 2660 02:12:51.880 --> 02:12:53.600 rods or like what's going on here? 2661 02:12:54.079 --> 02:12:55.279 And I'm like I don't know. 2662 02:12:55.760 --> 02:12:58.439 Well, the crazy thing about that is though, too, is 2663 02:12:58.520 --> 02:13:02.640 that you know people hadn't always used copper or bronze 2664 02:13:02.720 --> 02:13:06.079 or whatever. Some people legit will get like just a 2665 02:13:06.359 --> 02:13:09.479 like a bent stick legit, and they're they're able to 2666 02:13:09.520 --> 02:13:12.640 do the same exact thing, which makes it even crazier 2667 02:13:12.640 --> 02:13:15.119 at that point, because now in a copper. 2668 02:13:15.239 --> 02:13:18.199 You know, with the water molecules or something. And then 2669 02:13:18.239 --> 02:13:20.560 my friend Lily just she just moved to Sedona. She's 2670 02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:22.439 a ufologist. I don't know if you should have her 2671 02:13:22.479 --> 02:13:28.960 on a cool job Lily Nova. Yeah, I mean, mm. 2672 02:13:28.920 --> 02:13:31.479 Hmmm, yeah, I follow her actually. 2673 02:13:31.399 --> 02:13:35.000 Yeah she uh And I'm bumm because she just moved 2674 02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:36.720 to Sadona right when I left, and I kept being like, 2675 02:13:36.720 --> 02:13:39.600 you gotta move here, you gotta move here, and yeah 2676 02:13:39.600 --> 02:13:41.399 she does. That's I met her because she was on 2677 02:13:41.399 --> 02:13:43.399 my show. We're not like tight, but you know, we 2678 02:13:43.520 --> 02:13:46.119 text sometimes. But she just did a video of her 2679 02:13:46.159 --> 02:13:48.680 holding the dowsing rods in some vortex and they were 2680 02:13:48.680 --> 02:13:50.960 spinning like crazy. So it's not that I don't think 2681 02:13:51.000 --> 02:13:56.680 they're they're obviously responding to energy something. I just don't 2682 02:13:56.720 --> 02:13:59.560 know that you can be like, am I going to 2683 02:13:59.560 --> 02:14:02.319 get mad? I read next year? I just don't think. 2684 02:14:02.720 --> 02:14:06.960 I don't know that that's really what they are good for. Imagine, Yeah, 2685 02:14:07.039 --> 02:14:08.760 that's how it feels. A lot of that stuff I 2686 02:14:08.840 --> 02:14:10.439 take with a big grain of salt and I'll just 2687 02:14:10.560 --> 02:14:13.079 kind of do it for fun. Even Taro, although Taro 2688 02:14:13.159 --> 02:14:15.439 seems to be pretty accurate, and it makes sense that 2689 02:14:15.520 --> 02:14:19.439 spirit could communicate through them, because but when people say 2690 02:14:19.439 --> 02:14:22.239 tarot cards are the devil, I'm like, well, how is 2691 02:14:22.239 --> 02:14:25.159 that different though? From me getting information from a spirit? 2692 02:14:25.199 --> 02:14:28.680 They're just basically saying giving you a sign. It's just 2693 02:14:28.720 --> 02:14:31.079 a sign. Like if I just say sometimes you can 2694 02:14:31.119 --> 02:14:32.560 even do it with a book. You can just be like, 2695 02:14:32.760 --> 02:14:34.520 what do I need to know today? Open to a 2696 02:14:34.600 --> 02:14:40.800 random page. Form follows thought, not thought. Not thought follows form. 2697 02:14:40.840 --> 02:14:43.760 As we've mistakenly taught ourselves, the bills that eat up 2698 02:14:43.760 --> 02:14:46.479 the wealth are actually a manifestation, fulfilling some conscious or 2699 02:14:46.560 --> 02:14:49.239 unconscious beliefs of that person. And I would just go, well, 2700 02:14:49.239 --> 02:14:52.239 that's something I needed to hear today. But you know, 2701 02:14:52.840 --> 02:14:56.239 like something like that could so, But I don't know. 2702 02:14:56.279 --> 02:14:58.119 I don't know if Luigi board is inherently I don't 2703 02:14:58.119 --> 02:15:01.079 think it's inherently anything. Think it's mainly just. 2704 02:15:01.399 --> 02:15:03.640 It's what you feed into it, right. 2705 02:15:03.520 --> 02:15:05.720 Yeah, And I think it's also your higher self kind 2706 02:15:05.760 --> 02:15:07.439 of subconsciously maybe moving it. 2707 02:15:07.479 --> 02:15:09.039 Although there are. 2708 02:15:08.960 --> 02:15:11.000 People that say, I wasn't even looking at it spelled 2709 02:15:11.039 --> 02:15:13.199 something out, and I mean, I'm not saying that is impossible. 2710 02:15:13.399 --> 02:15:16.119 To be fair, I'll say this, I don't know if 2711 02:15:16.159 --> 02:15:19.359 this show would necessarily have ever been made if it 2712 02:15:19.399 --> 02:15:20.439 wasn't for a Wigi board. 2713 02:15:21.840 --> 02:15:23.399 Really, did you have an experience? 2714 02:15:23.840 --> 02:15:29.159 No, my mom and Shawn's mom, they they they dabbled 2715 02:15:29.199 --> 02:15:31.720 into the Wiji board a couple of times together, and 2716 02:15:31.800 --> 02:15:34.000 they told us about it, which kind of opened up 2717 02:15:34.000 --> 02:15:37.199 our curiosity about the a bunch of spiritual things. Like 2718 02:15:37.199 --> 02:15:40.039 my mom was always into like the witchy things, not 2719 02:15:40.239 --> 02:15:42.800 like you know, she never messed around with tarot cards 2720 02:15:42.880 --> 02:15:46.239 or anything like that, but was like always showed something 2721 02:15:46.279 --> 02:15:48.439 like it was. It was just always super cool. And 2722 02:15:48.520 --> 02:15:51.600 so whenever I thought, you know, was seeing her into 2723 02:15:51.840 --> 02:15:53.760 into all that kind of stuff, it, I don't know, 2724 02:15:53.840 --> 02:15:55.199 piqued my curiosity a little bit. 2725 02:15:55.520 --> 02:15:56.840 Your sisters is that what they are? 2726 02:15:58.000 --> 02:16:02.079 No, my mom is actually Jonathan's mom's aunt. 2727 02:16:02.520 --> 02:16:05.119 Oh, but they're very close in age, and so they're 2728 02:16:05.119 --> 02:16:07.800 basically like basically more like sisters. 2729 02:16:07.880 --> 02:16:11.119 Yeah, okay, that's oh wow, okay. 2730 02:16:11.279 --> 02:16:14.840 Yeah. That being said, I bought a Luigi board and 2731 02:16:14.880 --> 02:16:16.880 it's like one of those old school ones. 2732 02:16:16.960 --> 02:16:19.279 It's like from the seventies, so it might have like 2733 02:16:19.319 --> 02:16:22.680 an echo of some crazy eggreg are already built in. 2734 02:16:22.880 --> 02:16:24.680 So I'm a little nervous. It's still in the car. 2735 02:16:25.319 --> 02:16:27.039 I haven't even brought it in the house yet. That's 2736 02:16:27.039 --> 02:16:29.880 how I'm like, let me talk to Shannon first, figure 2737 02:16:29.880 --> 02:16:31.199 out what the deal is, and then. 2738 02:16:31.720 --> 02:16:35.200 I don't know. My feeling is no object is necessarily 2739 02:16:35.239 --> 02:16:39.600 like dangerous. Yeah, it's just if you use it. Say 2740 02:16:39.760 --> 02:16:44.440 I call upon angels of protection. I say, God, Jesus, 2741 02:16:44.479 --> 02:16:47.159 Angels and you know, and I'll be like, I don't 2742 02:16:47.200 --> 02:16:49.040 even and again Metatron and all that. I don't know 2743 02:16:49.120 --> 02:16:51.159 how we know that they're I just call. I just 2744 02:16:51.360 --> 02:16:54.680 use their names. I'm like Archangel, Medatron, Michael, Raphael, please 2745 02:16:54.719 --> 02:16:56.719 come in and protect us from any energy that would 2746 02:16:56.719 --> 02:16:58.879 wish to confuse us or do us harm. I asked 2747 02:16:58.920 --> 02:17:02.760 that only messages of God's white light come into my space. 2748 02:17:02.840 --> 02:17:06.840 I reject any lower density entities and I raise my 2749 02:17:06.920 --> 02:17:10.239 vibration and I say something really, you know, loving and 2750 02:17:10.239 --> 02:17:12.360 then I'm just like, if there is anyone that can 2751 02:17:12.479 --> 02:17:15.520 can manipulate this, please do. I've also tried like the 2752 02:17:16.239 --> 02:17:18.799 you know, those like apps, which I'm sure you have to, 2753 02:17:19.360 --> 02:17:21.559 and I always feel like I don't know, Like I 2754 02:17:21.600 --> 02:17:23.920 haven't really nothing's really happened on them, like the ghost 2755 02:17:24.200 --> 02:17:27.440 tube or whatever like I would like. And I've heard 2756 02:17:27.479 --> 02:17:30.600 stuff on EVPs. I just don't have an EVP recorder, 2757 02:17:30.639 --> 02:17:33.440 and they're so hard to hear that I just don't know. 2758 02:17:33.520 --> 02:17:35.840 I even bought. I even made myself. I have it. 2759 02:17:35.879 --> 02:17:38.879 I'm one of those what you call it the radio 2760 02:17:38.920 --> 02:17:41.920 ones that you hook up like a pedal too, and 2761 02:17:42.559 --> 02:17:44.079 I made myself a spirit box. 2762 02:17:44.319 --> 02:17:46.680 Yeah. Oh, it was just. 2763 02:17:46.680 --> 02:17:48.159 A lot of stat I mean, I don't know. Like 2764 02:17:48.280 --> 02:17:50.799 one time I thought I heard Shannon like that was it, 2765 02:17:50.959 --> 02:17:52.760 and I'm like, and that freakd me it, But I 2766 02:17:52.799 --> 02:17:56.200 was like, I don't know. So, yeah, it's so hard 2767 02:17:56.239 --> 02:17:58.280 to hear. I just looked on YouTube how to build one, 2768 02:17:58.280 --> 02:18:00.360 and I like bought all the parts for it, plugged 2769 02:18:00.360 --> 02:18:02.879 it all in. Oh, I'll have to remember to bring 2770 02:18:02.920 --> 02:18:05.360 it when we get together. So I mean, it's like, 2771 02:18:05.479 --> 02:18:07.440 I don't know. It sounds like a lot of static 2772 02:18:07.600 --> 02:18:09.879 and like maybe they said something and. 2773 02:18:09.840 --> 02:18:11.719 If you record it then you can slow it down 2774 02:18:11.840 --> 02:18:13.600 or speed it up and stuff like that too. 2775 02:18:13.680 --> 02:18:15.920 You know, I'm sure it works, I just don't know. 2776 02:18:17.479 --> 02:18:18.719 I would turn it on and it was just like, 2777 02:18:19.879 --> 02:18:21.440 you know, so I don't really I. 2778 02:18:21.360 --> 02:18:23.079 Mean, it could just be one of those things to 2779 02:18:23.079 --> 02:18:26.600 where because some people were really drawn to the dowsing rods, 2780 02:18:26.639 --> 02:18:28.959 some people were really drawn to tarot, some people were 2781 02:18:29.000 --> 02:18:32.000 really drawn to channeling or psychic and it's like everybody 2782 02:18:32.040 --> 02:18:35.479 has a thing that they're a little bit better at. 2783 02:18:35.760 --> 02:18:38.959 And I feel that way towards Taro personally. I mean, 2784 02:18:39.000 --> 02:18:41.959 I I'd like whenever I give myself a reading or 2785 02:18:41.959 --> 02:18:45.399 I give others readings, it's always hits home every time. 2786 02:18:46.120 --> 02:18:48.159 And as a matter of fact, that just gave one 2787 02:18:48.239 --> 02:18:54.520 last week to this gal, and so I gave one. 2788 02:18:54.600 --> 02:18:57.360 And I initially was only planning on just doing like 2789 02:18:57.360 --> 02:18:59.600 a one card reading, just to show how it works 2790 02:18:59.600 --> 02:19:02.559 and stuff like that, and and I got the card 2791 02:19:02.600 --> 02:19:04.799 and then I was like, wait a second, let me 2792 02:19:04.840 --> 02:19:06.600 try and see what else is going to be building 2793 02:19:06.639 --> 02:19:10.879 off of this. And it was a perfect like past present, 2794 02:19:10.920 --> 02:19:14.680 future reading and it perfectly in order the way that 2795 02:19:14.719 --> 02:19:17.879 they that the that they fell. It was dude, she 2796 02:19:17.920 --> 02:19:21.079 started crying like it was like so intense that she 2797 02:19:21.200 --> 02:19:23.799 was like, oh my god, this is this is just 2798 02:19:23.840 --> 02:19:26.040 one of those times that I'll never forget. And I'm like, 2799 02:19:27.559 --> 02:19:28.959 I am but a conduit. 2800 02:19:28.719 --> 02:19:29.280 For this end. 2801 02:19:31.520 --> 02:19:33.440 It's really I still do. I love I just so 2802 02:19:33.639 --> 02:19:35.559 every morning I kind of like shuffle them and just 2803 02:19:35.559 --> 02:19:38.000 say like, what's what do you want to tell me 2804 02:19:38.120 --> 02:19:41.440 what I need to know today? I just and I'll 2805 02:19:41.479 --> 02:19:44.040 usually do like three or four and then sometimes I 2806 02:19:44.040 --> 02:19:45.760 ask chat GP to read it for me so I 2807 02:19:45.799 --> 02:19:49.959 can be not object so that I call her Gail 2808 02:19:49.959 --> 02:19:53.440 Patricia Thurber, my therapist. I'm like, can you just interpret 2809 02:19:53.479 --> 02:19:58.079 the cards because I'm too biased? So I asked the question, 2810 02:19:58.159 --> 02:20:00.959 here are the cards I pulled? And she really lays 2811 02:20:00.959 --> 02:20:02.120 it all out there. 2812 02:20:03.159 --> 02:20:06.239 Yeah, yes, it's on one for sure, Sean. We I 2813 02:20:06.280 --> 02:20:07.959 will definitely do that. Way, do you board with you? 2814 02:20:08.200 --> 02:20:09.120 All right, let's do it. 2815 02:20:09.200 --> 02:20:11.760 I figured, you know, it's not something that I'm gonna 2816 02:20:11.920 --> 02:20:13.920 sit there and just be playing with all the time, 2817 02:20:13.959 --> 02:20:15.680 you know what I mean, But like I thought it 2818 02:20:15.680 --> 02:20:17.959 would be something cool to have for when you do come, 2819 02:20:18.239 --> 02:20:19.799 you know what I mean. Maybe we'll find some open 2820 02:20:19.840 --> 02:20:23.000 field somewhere, not even that. Maybe I just want to 2821 02:20:23.000 --> 02:20:24.319 bring in the house until. 2822 02:20:24.200 --> 02:20:24.799 Yeah, I don't know. 2823 02:20:25.360 --> 02:20:26.920 It's going to be safe as long as you just 2824 02:20:27.040 --> 02:20:29.280 pray for good and you just say, I'm only here 2825 02:20:29.399 --> 02:20:32.079 to work with the light. I'm not here, not even 2826 02:20:32.120 --> 02:20:34.040 not just I'm here to work with the light. I'm 2827 02:20:34.280 --> 02:20:37.079 of love and light and I just don't I don't know. 2828 02:20:37.159 --> 02:20:39.399 Make watch next time I see you, you'll have like 2829 02:20:39.479 --> 02:20:40.600 glowing red eyes. 2830 02:20:40.399 --> 02:20:42.959 And yeah, it's gonna get weird. Yeah, I hope not. 2831 02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:45.200 You know, but it's from the seventies, so I might 2832 02:20:45.239 --> 02:20:46.920 have to sage the ship out of it first. 2833 02:20:47.159 --> 02:20:47.680 Where'd you get? 2834 02:20:47.680 --> 02:20:48.760 You know? Goodwill? 2835 02:20:48.879 --> 02:20:51.000 Of course, Goodwill's my favorite story. 2836 02:20:51.440 --> 02:20:52.000 I got that. 2837 02:20:52.079 --> 02:20:54.200 I got that and a lightsaber for my son for 2838 02:20:54.280 --> 02:20:57.200 like seven bucks out the door, so I was I 2839 02:20:57.239 --> 02:20:57.959 was pretty happy. 2840 02:20:58.719 --> 02:21:00.680 You know, I will have to thrive. 2841 02:21:01.520 --> 02:21:04.559 I'm obsessed with Goodwill, like I go there all the time. 2842 02:21:04.639 --> 02:21:07.760 I also sell a lot of stuff fun from there on. 2843 02:21:07.680 --> 02:21:12.479 Pashpa, Oh my mom does that? Oh really, yeah, my 2844 02:21:12.520 --> 02:21:13.360 mom and my sister. 2845 02:21:13.440 --> 02:21:15.879 Actually I just sold a pair of boots today that well, 2846 02:21:15.920 --> 02:21:18.200 I actually got a pair of my fry boots which 2847 02:21:18.239 --> 02:21:20.040 are four hundred dollars boots. I got them for three 2848 02:21:20.040 --> 02:21:24.120 dollars and seventy five cents at Goodwill in Virginia in 2849 02:21:24.159 --> 02:21:27.440 the bins, and I was like, who died? Why are 2850 02:21:27.479 --> 02:21:30.239 these here? First of all, all the people went running 2851 02:21:30.280 --> 02:21:32.399 towards the shoes when they give out the numbers, because 2852 02:21:32.440 --> 02:21:34.799 sometimes they do that, and I'm like, I'm not going 2853 02:21:34.840 --> 02:21:36.600 to fight because what's meant to be mine is mine. 2854 02:21:37.159 --> 02:21:38.799 I'm like, I'm not going to do this. And it 2855 02:21:38.840 --> 02:21:40.879 was like people knocking each other out. And then when 2856 02:21:40.879 --> 02:21:44.200 they all dispersed, I'm like, are those fry boots? I've 2857 02:21:44.239 --> 02:21:46.360 wanted it for ever but I couldn't afford them. That 2858 02:21:46.479 --> 02:21:50.799 was like they're my size, they're three dollars and seventy 2859 02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:53.559 five cents and they're like new. I was like, this 2860 02:21:53.600 --> 02:21:56.360 can't be somebody died. But I got them there and 2861 02:21:56.760 --> 02:21:59.879 and I but I just but I bought. I got 2862 02:22:00.040 --> 02:22:03.280 paer Ski boots there for three seventy five sold them 2863 02:22:03.319 --> 02:22:04.319 for one hundred bucks. 2864 02:22:04.799 --> 02:22:06.840 Oh yeah, yeah. You can find a lot of great 2865 02:22:06.840 --> 02:22:09.520 deals over there. But fun, I mean, just even that 2866 02:22:09.639 --> 02:22:13.200 Waga board. I actually like it the idea even more 2867 02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:14.239 knowing that it's. 2868 02:22:14.200 --> 02:22:16.479 Used some years in there. 2869 02:22:16.479 --> 02:22:18.760 Like I said, there might be some some echoes of 2870 02:22:18.799 --> 02:22:20.719 something already kind of sage it. 2871 02:22:20.760 --> 02:22:22.479 I don't know what we might have to work. Yeah, 2872 02:22:22.559 --> 02:22:23.719 we work that out. 2873 02:22:23.559 --> 02:22:26.120 First, and I think that maybe we'll well, the next 2874 02:22:26.120 --> 02:22:28.719 time we have you on, it'll be you know, after 2875 02:22:28.799 --> 02:22:31.079 me and Sean get done playing with that, and then 2876 02:22:31.280 --> 02:22:33.799 we'll welcome you in the show. We'll welcome you into 2877 02:22:33.840 --> 02:22:35.680 the show and everything. We'll talk to you about our 2878 02:22:35.719 --> 02:22:39.319 experience and we'll be like, oh my. 2879 02:22:39.200 --> 02:22:43.000 God, you're gonna need a young priest and an old priest. 2880 02:22:44.639 --> 02:22:46.840 How far is Lake have a sup from here? 2881 02:22:47.719 --> 02:22:50.200 Probably not probably about four hours five hours. 2882 02:22:50.879 --> 02:22:53.200 Oh, two hundred and thirty three miles. 2883 02:22:53.680 --> 02:22:55.040 I'll say it's like four hours. 2884 02:22:55.360 --> 02:22:58.719 Yeah, it's Is it like far away from Joshua Tree 2885 02:22:58.760 --> 02:23:01.360 or is it near Joshua Tree? I like, is it 2886 02:23:01.399 --> 02:23:04.120 a different totally different way than Joshua Tree. Oh, it's 2887 02:23:04.159 --> 02:23:08.079 five hours but still okay. But like I you know, 2888 02:23:08.680 --> 02:23:10.879 I plan to go back to Prescott and stuff, so 2889 02:23:11.200 --> 02:23:13.840 it's fine. I used to drive here every month from 2890 02:23:13.840 --> 02:23:18.399 Prescott to LA to visit or like every six weeks, 2891 02:23:18.399 --> 02:23:21.239 and it's I like that. It's a beautiful drive. I'm 2892 02:23:21.239 --> 02:23:26.840 going to Pappy and Harriet's uh at in Joshua Tree. 2893 02:23:27.959 --> 02:23:31.600 I got it take us to see Arrested Development. But 2894 02:23:32.000 --> 02:23:34.319 then my friend plays with the band Cracker, and he 2895 02:23:34.399 --> 02:23:36.399 was like, we're playing the following weekend there. So I'm 2896 02:23:36.399 --> 02:23:39.200 trying to see if I can get my a refund, 2897 02:23:39.280 --> 02:23:41.239 even though I really want to see Arrested Development, but 2898 02:23:41.239 --> 02:23:42.719 I don't want to have to drive up there twice. 2899 02:23:42.760 --> 02:23:46.280 So I'll go see Cracker just because I'm friends with 2900 02:23:46.959 --> 02:23:49.760 my it's my college friend and he plays in that band, 2901 02:23:49.840 --> 02:23:54.200 and uh from you guys are young for. 2902 02:23:54.200 --> 02:23:56.559 Cracker, but no, yeah, I know who Cracker is. 2903 02:23:56.639 --> 02:23:58.840 I figured you would know, yeah, And I saw them 2904 02:23:58.840 --> 02:24:01.200 there once before and it was so fun. So I'm 2905 02:24:01.200 --> 02:24:03.239 going to try to switch it out and go to 2906 02:24:03.319 --> 02:24:04.520 Joshua Tree for that. 2907 02:24:05.280 --> 02:24:05.520 Well. 2908 02:24:05.639 --> 02:24:07.440 I think we're definitely gonna all have to get together 2909 02:24:07.520 --> 02:24:08.280 one of these days. 2910 02:24:08.399 --> 02:24:10.719 I think that, yeah, we will. And when it cools off. 2911 02:24:11.239 --> 02:24:13.479 Oh for sure, I'm not even moving out there until 2912 02:24:14.600 --> 02:24:15.120 towards the end. 2913 02:24:15.159 --> 02:24:19.639 When off end of September, yep, okay. 2914 02:24:19.360 --> 02:24:20.639 Perfect, it will still be pretty warm. 2915 02:24:20.719 --> 02:24:24.120 That's actually like the perfect time. So let's just put 2916 02:24:24.200 --> 02:24:24.840 that on our. 2917 02:24:24.680 --> 02:24:27.479 Books, all right, put it on my vision board. 2918 02:24:27.479 --> 02:24:30.760 On your yes. Yes, oh my gosh, I can't wait. 2919 02:24:31.920 --> 02:24:34.440 All right, you guys, thank you so much. I have this. 2920 02:24:34.799 --> 02:24:39.120 I'm babysitting for a dog. She's a Shitzu and she's fifteen, 2921 02:24:39.719 --> 02:24:42.360 and she has dementia. And I've left left her out there. 2922 02:24:42.840 --> 02:24:44.959 My roommate like went and walked her, but I my 2923 02:24:45.040 --> 02:24:47.520 roommate went to another job. We have all these dogs, 2924 02:24:47.520 --> 02:24:49.799 We've like taken on all these dogs. She's like at 2925 02:24:49.799 --> 02:24:53.280 our neighbor's house. And then I've got we've got this 2926 02:24:53.360 --> 02:24:55.399 other dog. And I have cat in my apartment and 2927 02:24:55.440 --> 02:24:57.520 she's got this dog. And anyway, the dog is in 2928 02:24:57.600 --> 02:25:01.760 heart failure and has dementia. So she's a very confused little. 2929 02:25:01.520 --> 02:25:05.040 Old lady forgetting who she is right now. 2930 02:25:05.479 --> 02:25:09.559 She looks around like who are these people? 2931 02:25:10.000 --> 02:25:11.239 When am I? 2932 02:25:11.280 --> 02:25:13.959 And she keys all over the floor. Definitely, I do 2933 02:25:14.040 --> 02:25:16.079 not want any dogs of my own. But I'm gonna 2934 02:25:16.079 --> 02:25:18.440 go cuddle her and sleep with her tonight. So all right, 2935 02:25:18.680 --> 02:25:22.799 sounds great to see you guys. Nice to meet you, 2936 02:25:22.959 --> 02:25:26.799 Kyle even and we didn't speak, but hi, Britain, I'm 2937 02:25:26.879 --> 02:25:28.440 nice to meet you. Make I'll talk sing. 2938 02:25:31.879 --> 02:25:37.959 Voices drift on winds, unting words like spells that can't 2939 02:25:38.399 --> 02:25:38.959 be made. 2940 02:25:40.159 --> 02:25:45.479 Close your eyes and feel the sound. Journey where no 2941 02:25:45.959 --> 02:25:59.920 bounds are found opens inside ordinary because color, soul stars 2942 02:26:01.120 --> 02:26:01.360 in 2943 02:26:01.399 --> 02:26:04.239 The matter mysteries your father