Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to our best Bank, the East Branch,
Speaker 1: right here on Adams Road. I'm Tom Davis, your moderator
Speaker 1: for tonight's forum, and today we're going to hear from
Speaker 1: as many candidates as we can fit in the room,
Speaker 1: because we got a lot of them tonight here running
Speaker 1: for city council right here in bartels Felt. First of all,
Speaker 1: I want to introduce the panel. We have in Ward one,
Speaker 1: Deale Copeland, Tim Sharrick, Ward two, Larry East, Lauren Wizzelle,
Speaker 1: Aaron Kirkpatrick, Ward four, Quinn ship Or Ward four Terrevor Dorsey.
Speaker 1: In Ward five, we're hoping we're hoping to have Karen
Speaker 1: and Matthew come in here a little bit later on,
Speaker 1: but when they arrive will have them seated. And we
Speaker 1: also have Jim Kurd who's running on a post in
Speaker 1: ward three. And right now, Jim, I know you would
Speaker 1: like to make an opening statement. We're going to give
Speaker 1: you the chance to do that before you run the
Speaker 1: mic down to his honor, the Mayor.
Speaker 2: Thanks Tom, I appreciate it, and thank you Bartles Radio
Speaker 2: for sponsoring this forum tonight, and welcome all the candidates
Speaker 2: here tonight. I am Jim Kurd and I'm kind of
Speaker 2: the odd man out tonight. As many of you know,
Speaker 2: I am unopposed for my seat in Ward three. I've
Speaker 2: served nearly four two year terms representing Ward three and
Speaker 2: our great city.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's been a true honor, and I'm pleased and excited
Speaker 2: to have another two years to serve our great city.
Speaker 2: During my terms, I've served for several different cou councils
Speaker 2: and we've always represented our community, our citizens, and each
Speaker 2: other in a respectable and civil manner. Has been an
Speaker 2: honor to serve with our current council Quinn Shipper, who
Speaker 2: gratefully stepped in for the unexpected passing of Billy Rohan,
Speaker 2: Dale Copeland, Lauren Roselle and Trevor Dorsey. I believe these
Speaker 2: councils have served These councilors have served our community exceptionally well.
Speaker 2: For myself, one of the most important aspects of being
Speaker 2: an effective city councilor is being narnpartisan, putting politics aside
Speaker 2: and providing a positive vision ahead benefits the entire community
Speaker 2: and helps us grow, be prosperous and have a desired
Speaker 2: and welcoming community to live in. With our recent growth
Speaker 2: in sales, tax, the new use tax, new businesses, new jobs,
Speaker 2: providing assistance to local companies, housing incentives to attract new citizens,
Speaker 2: new retail and restaurant choices, and our community supported bond
Speaker 2: issues that have added significantly to our quality of life amenities,
Speaker 2: improved our downtown district, and better maintained our roads and streets.
Speaker 2: Our community is doing very well. Yes, there are always
Speaker 2: challenges head but I'm confident that, as before, solutions will
Speaker 2: be fined to found, to be addressed. These challenges that
Speaker 2: come along to me, these positive advancements for our city
Speaker 2: and the challenges ahead are the essence of wanting to
Speaker 2: be and serving as a city councilor. To me, and
Speaker 2: most importantly, every two years, as counselors, we take our
Speaker 2: oath of office and swear to support the Constitution of
Speaker 2: the United States and the Constitution of Oklahoma. I will
Speaker 2: honorably take the oath next term and serve our community
Speaker 2: to the best my ability for another two years.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much, mister Kurkin. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: we are underway. We want to remind all of our
Speaker 1: participants in our questions will be selected randomly, and we've
Speaker 1: not shared this with any one. In fact, many of
Speaker 1: these are the first time I've seen them. No, they
Speaker 1: actually Lesteners had set these in. But we are going
Speaker 1: to begin with opening statements, and each candidate will have
Speaker 1: two minutes for your opening and closing statement as well
Speaker 1: as for answering each question. We're going to start with
Speaker 1: Dale Copeland more than one and give us your opening statement, please, sir, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you Tom.
Speaker 4: I want to thank you and Bartbow Radio for hosting
Speaker 4: this forum and of course to our best for using
Speaker 4: of this great facility. I also want to thank all
Speaker 4: the amazing friends and neighbors who've supported me, especially my
Speaker 4: wife Donna, who's always been there for me, but especially
Speaker 4: recently walking a lot of Ward one neighborhoods. Our families
Speaker 4: are young son heroes who are there for us behind
Speaker 4: the scenes as we work in city efforts. The next
Speaker 4: two years bring opportunities for the industry new retail and
Speaker 4: new jobs. Growth is good, but it must be managed
Speaker 4: along with the accompanying needs like housing and infrastructure. Our
Speaker 4: recently approved Next Strategic Plan is a good tool for
Speaker 4: that effort, and we must continue to devote attention to
Speaker 4: our streets and improve the pavement condition index. In coming years,
Speaker 4: more and more companies are discovering something that we already knew,
Speaker 4: that our hometown is a good place to go and grow.
Speaker 4: Bartlesfield has a strong history of conservative physical management. The
Speaker 4: Strategic Reserve Fund for rainy days is vital to that.
Speaker 4: We consistently receive one of the highest credit ratings in
Speaker 4: the state, and that means lower cost with more of
Speaker 4: our funding going to projects. That's a win win. Our
Speaker 4: city government has a lot of moving parts. It's much
Speaker 4: more than my single issue or favorite project. Like any
Speaker 4: well operating machine, we must always pay attention to every
Speaker 4: part and every function to keep things working at their best.
Speaker 4: I've been sharing my idea of three areas that are
Speaker 4: important for success, financial health, core services, and civility. Financial
Speaker 4: health means we can pay our bills and provide our
Speaker 4: staff and citizens the services and tools they need. Course services, water, wastewater, trash, streets,
Speaker 4: police and fire, and parks are the crucial elements of
Speaker 4: any functioning community. An old saying civility costs nothing is
Speaker 4: true and it paves the way for respect, cooperation and trust.
Speaker 4: I ask for your vote if you're in Ward one
Speaker 4: for dalk Copeland for City Council.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much, Adam Tim Sharrick Ward one, Tim,
Speaker 1: good evening. Do we have your opening statement? Please?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 6: I am Tim Shrick, and I'd like to share with
Speaker 6: you a little bit about myself. I'm kind of the
Speaker 6: lesser known commodity here. My business qualifications include a degree
Speaker 6: in accounting from RSU and in data analytics from Mid
Speaker 6: America Christian and Oklahoma City. I've been afforded the opportunity
Speaker 6: to both lead and collaborate with a variety of teams
Speaker 6: in my more than twenty five years of it and
Speaker 6: varied business experiences, and I understand the kind of data
Speaker 6: and decision making that drives success. You know, for three generations,
Speaker 6: my family has been proud to call Bartlesville our hometown.
Speaker 6: But lately we've seen the values that first made our
Speaker 6: city a great place to live come under attack, and
Speaker 6: we believe our home is worth defending. I'm troubled by
Speaker 6: the many times I've seen the voices of my neighbors
Speaker 6: stifled by a city government and the noise of special
Speaker 6: interests drown out the cries for help coming from our
Speaker 6: own neighborhoods. Our hometown public spaces are being polluted by
Speaker 6: the activities that recklessly disregard the protection of our youngest
Speaker 6: and most vulnerable citizens. And when courageous citizens voice their
Speaker 6: concerns in the council chamber, they seem to be met
Speaker 6: with a deaf year and sometimes a rebuke. That's why
Speaker 6: I've decided to run for city council. Our hometown family
Speaker 6: has weathered many trying times by recognizing the value in
Speaker 6: the community and in each other. It's the homegrown solutions,
Speaker 6: not bigger government, that always deliver the best results. And
Speaker 6: we know that when we the people come together, we thrive.
Speaker 6: When you vote for me, you can be sure that
Speaker 6: I remember that I'm working for my neighbors and not
Speaker 6: the city. I'll amplify the voice of your concerns and
Speaker 6: escalate the priority of your problems. I'll work to ensure
Speaker 6: that adult activities are kept within the confines of adult venues.
Speaker 6: I'll be vigilant with the oversight of your money, and
Speaker 6: I'll give special attention to our adequate safe water supply.
Speaker 6: I hope you will join me in making sure that
Speaker 6: Bartlesville remains a great place to call home.
Speaker 1: Thank you, mister Sheryck Up next in ward two, we
Speaker 1: have Larry East.
Speaker 7: Thank you Tom, and thank you ka One for hosting
Speaker 7: this and a little bit about me. My name is
Speaker 7: Larry East. I grew up in Choctaw, east of Oklahoma City.
Speaker 7: I went to work for Kanico and Ponca City right
Speaker 7: out of Call and eventually transferred over here to Bartlesville
Speaker 7: and retired from there a couple of years ago after
Speaker 7: thirty three years of work in it with them. My wife, Shelley,
Speaker 7: and I have been married for thirty five years. In
Speaker 7: the last twenty one years we've spent right here in Bartlesville.
Speaker 7: We're active members at First Baptist Church and other organizations
Speaker 7: here in the community. One of those is the disaster
Speaker 7: Relief Chainsaw Crew. Keep your prayers out for them as
Speaker 7: they're over in Georgia right now. I would have liked
Speaker 7: to have been with them. In fact, I've told many
Speaker 7: people I'd rather be running a saw than a campaign.
Speaker 7: But we've appreciated the opportunity to raise our sons right
Speaker 7: here in Bartlesville. We have three grown sons and two
Speaker 7: daughters in law, all raised here in Bartlesville, and we've
Speaker 7: appreciated the largely family friendly environment that we've had. But
Speaker 7: the last couple of years, we've felt like that hasn't
Speaker 7: been quite as much as we'd like to see, particularly
Speaker 7: with the drag shows. You know, some home blessness issues
Speaker 7: that need to be addressed and also water quality issues,
Speaker 7: and I hope to have an opportunity to address those
Speaker 7: and i'd appreciate your consideration. On November the fifth, Thank.
Speaker 1: You very much, Larry Ward, you, Laura Brosseaul, good evening.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 9: I want to thank Barswel Radio, Arvest Bank, and are
Speaker 9: presenting sponsors for giving us an opportunity. I want to
Speaker 9: thank all of you for coming out and being a
Speaker 9: part of the process and hearing from your candidates today.
Speaker 9: It's an important part of that process. I wanted to
Speaker 9: tell you a little bit about myself. I am born
Speaker 9: and raised right here in Barzil, Oklahoma. I'm a fifth
Speaker 9: generation Barshin. My grandparents grew up we lived on Oklahoma.
Speaker 9: I grew up on Elm Street on the West side.
Speaker 9: My daughter still lives in Heart on Harvey Road in
Speaker 9: my ward, and my granddaughter lives there with her. So
Speaker 9: I have five generations of family history here in Barswil.
Speaker 9: I started work for Phillips Petroleum Company twenty eight years ago.
Speaker 9: My first job with them was working at the night
Speaker 9: shift at the gas station on the corner of Madison
Speaker 9: and Adams Boulevard. I worked behind that bullet resistant cage
Speaker 9: for the night shift. I worked hard and learned a
Speaker 9: lot of things and finally made my way up and
Speaker 9: today I work for Conico Phillips as a senior it
Speaker 9: and operations technology auditor, doing cybersecurity audits to make sure
Speaker 9: our field sites and our operations are safe from intrusions.
Speaker 9: I love serving my community. I've served my community for
Speaker 9: decades through many boards and volunteer organizations. I currently serve
Speaker 9: on the United Way Board of Directors, overseeing their community
Speaker 9: Impact grant process. I've served my community for decades. For
Speaker 9: the last two years, I've served my community every day,
Speaker 9: answering your emails, your text messages, your calls, making sure
Speaker 9: that we can make your life better every day. We
Speaker 9: brought in a lot of businesses into Bartlesville, giving opportunities
Speaker 9: for our children and grandchildren who want to stay here
Speaker 9: and be raised in Bartlesville. I want to can continued
Speaker 9: to do that and make sure we keep our core services,
Speaker 9: our police, fire parks all running efficiently. I would like
Speaker 9: to serve you for another two years, and i'd appreciate
Speaker 9: your vote.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: From Ward four Aaron Kirkpatrick.
Speaker 3: I really love Bartlesville.
Speaker 10: We moved our family here a decade ago, my wife
Speaker 10: and our four little kids at the time, they're not
Speaker 10: so little anymore, and we fell in love with this
Speaker 10: community immediately. A year ago, I got lunch with Billy
Speaker 10: Rohan and as we talked about things that she was
Speaker 10: doing for Ward four, I loved her heart, I loved
Speaker 10: her enthusiasm, and as she was discussing some of her challenges,
Speaker 10: I started sharing ideas for how to fix them and
Speaker 10: how to address some of them. And she was a
Speaker 10: kindred spirit. I was happy her to do the work.
Speaker 10: And then she passed unexpectedly and tragically, and that was
Speaker 10: the moment that I decided I was going to apply
Speaker 10: for the seat, and regardless of whether or not I
Speaker 10: was appointed, I was going to run. See, on top
Speaker 10: of being a pastor for twenty years, I'm also a
Speaker 10: serial entrepreneur, and it just so happens that many of
Speaker 10: the businesses that I have that I have started and
Speaker 10: built and sold prepared me to be a jack of
Speaker 10: all trades. And many of those skills that I developed
Speaker 10: are exactly what the city needs right now. Our city
Speaker 10: has a lot of opportunities, and as an entrepreneur, you
Speaker 10: learn to see opportunities and strike while the moment is hot.
Speaker 3: Before they slip away. But we also face a lot
Speaker 3: of challenges.
Speaker 10: I've had the opportunity to be an executive, coach and consultant,
Speaker 10: and when people need help figuring out complex ideas quickly
Speaker 10: and simply, they call me and so I can help
Speaker 10: with the challenges that we're facing as a city. As
Speaker 10: I've been knocking doors and talking to people, then I realized, hey,
Speaker 10: we've affordable housing crises and I've developed plans to help
Speaker 10: with that, and we've got a homelessness crisis that now
Speaker 10: are our local helping organizations and nonprofits and even our
Speaker 10: other pastors. They're reaching out to me and saying, we
Speaker 10: need your plan to succeed because it will work. I've
Speaker 10: been endorsed by the firefighters because I've gotten to know
Speaker 10: them and they see the opportunities that I see for
Speaker 10: public safety. I want to win the opportunity to represent
Speaker 10: you in Ward four, and I want to win the
Speaker 10: opportunity to make the strides that our community needs, and
Speaker 10: I hope that you vote for me for Ward four Representative.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for ward Poor Quinn Shipper.
Speaker 5: Good evening everyone.
Speaker 11: I want to thank BARSBA Radio and r VEST and
Speaker 11: those who've come out tonight to show their support for
Speaker 11: this forum. And it's really good to be in this
Speaker 11: room once again with everybody here again. I'm Quen Shipper.
Speaker 11: I am the city councilor for Ward four. I was
Speaker 11: unanimously appointed this past June to complete the unexpired term
Speaker 11: of my dear friend, the late Billy Rohan. My very
Speaker 11: first attendance at a city council meeting was in August
Speaker 11: of twenty twenty, and I went for two reasons. One,
Speaker 11: I wanted to be an informed intercessor. I prayed daily
Speaker 11: for my city. I prayed daily for those who are
Speaker 11: in leadership in our city and I continue that to
Speaker 11: this day. The next spring, I was appointed to the
Speaker 11: City Planning Commission.
Speaker 5: I didn't say the second thing.
Speaker 11: The second thing was to be an informed citizen and
Speaker 11: how to get engaged. So I have experience, I'm informed
Speaker 11: about things, and I am engaged. So part of that
Speaker 11: engagement began the next spring when I was appointed to
Speaker 11: the City Planning Commission, which has been a great opportunity
Speaker 11: to learn about how government works at that level. The
Speaker 11: next year, I was invited to join the Water Resources
Speaker 11: Board Committee as the award for Representative, which was also
Speaker 11: just a really great learning curve and opportunity to offer
Speaker 11: input into that important conversation but also the practical application
Speaker 11: for art City. I am a graduate of the Bartlevielle
Speaker 11: Citizens Police Academy, the recent Citizens Academy. I'm also the
Speaker 11: standing recipient of the Jake Barteles Award. So I've spent
Speaker 11: over four years. I've not missed a City Council meeting,
Speaker 11: a regular meeting, and I've been to a number of
Speaker 11: the special meetings of the City Council as well to
Speaker 11: inform my engagement. And one thing I valued about getting
Speaker 11: to meet so many great people and working alongside them
Speaker 11: in this community is find ways to help engage them.
Speaker 5: We have many.
Speaker 11: Opportunities on committees, commissions, authorities, boards and trusts, and I
Speaker 11: believe that my opportunity to take all of these experiences
Speaker 11: the things that have informed my opportunity to serve and
Speaker 11: to continue doing so to represent you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Ward five. Trevor Dorsey.
Speaker 12: Yes, my name is Trevor Dorsey for those who may
Speaker 12: not know me, and I appreciate everybody that it's tonight
Speaker 12: and those watching on live stream and listening on the radio.
Speaker 12: Beth and I we moved our family here in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 12: It's been about ten and a half years ago. At
Speaker 12: the time, she had three little kids at home. Now
Speaker 12: one of them is a senior, Tatan, he's seventeen. I've
Speaker 12: got a seventh grader, Mason, and a fourth grader, Bryson.
Speaker 12: I've enjoyed serving you all the citizens of Barlsville the
Speaker 12: past seven years, and prior to that, I also served
Speaker 12: on the Planning Commission and learned a lot there that
Speaker 12: helped me whenever I moved into a role like Quinn,
Speaker 12: I was seated to fill a vacancy. And I've always
Speaker 12: enjoyed serving my community, whether it's through city Council, the
Speaker 12: Chamber of Commerce, serve on a lot of nonprofit boards,
Speaker 12: and my family is very active and serving in the
Speaker 12: community and they are very active. Matter of fact, I
Speaker 12: had to hustle from halftime of a ball game across
Speaker 12: town for one of my kids to get here this evening.
Speaker 12: But we love Bartlesville. Fell in love with it when
Speaker 12: we first came here. It was getting recruited for a job,
Speaker 12: and I can't think of a better place to work,
Speaker 12: live and play. So I certainly want to do my
Speaker 12: part and do everything that I can for the constituents
Speaker 12: and my family to make it better at each and
Speaker 12: every day. They're as they as some of the other
Speaker 12: people have stated. We serve on various committees, boards and
Speaker 12: trust and authorities, and I think I've did that seven years,
Speaker 12: got to serve on just about all of them. So
Speaker 12: I've had a lot of enjoyable experiences in getting to
Speaker 12: know all the systems of Barsville. And I appreciate you
Speaker 12: all again being here tonight, and if there's anything I
Speaker 12: can do, please reach out to me, and I would
Speaker 12: appreciate your vote to continue to serve you for another
Speaker 12: two years.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Trevor. As we hand the microphone back to
Speaker 1: the beginning, I want to remind everyone that we do
Speaker 1: have a lot of questions and not everybody's going to
Speaker 1: get the same question, and we got a lot of response.
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody who listens and watches us
Speaker 1: on K one TV and also K one radio for
Speaker 1: helping out and by golly, we're up to the races.
Speaker 1: We're going to start now with Dale Copeland. Our water
Speaker 1: supply issue was identified in two thousand and two, and
Speaker 1: over the years various councils have studied the issue. What
Speaker 1: specifically would you address for our water supply?
Speaker 4: Water is critical. Water is more important than streets, and
Speaker 4: streets is really important. But without water, what do we do?
Speaker 4: We have looked at a lot of options. People before
Speaker 4: us have looked at a lot of options. I've had
Speaker 4: opportunity to speak with people at the federal level, the
Speaker 4: corp of Engineers and our congressional representatives in Washington, and
Speaker 4: we do not own a water supply. The core engineers
Speaker 4: for the federal government does, so we have to work
Speaker 4: with them. They have their own rules, their own timetables,
Speaker 4: and they have been very receptive, but it has not
Speaker 4: gone as quickly as we would like. Currently, I think
Speaker 4: our best solutions are as they have recommended themselves as
Speaker 4: looking at reallocation of water at Hula. There is currently
Speaker 4: a word of bill Water Resource Development Act coming through
Speaker 4: Congress that if that makes it out and is signed,
Speaker 4: will give us affordable and affordable is critical, not millions
Speaker 4: and millions of dollars, but affordable rates on the rest
Speaker 4: of the available water at Copan that will be huge,
Speaker 4: But we're continuing to look at the aid of Vermosa
Speaker 4: aquifer just does not have all the water we need,
Speaker 4: but it could be a source. It's fairly close. Obviously
Speaker 4: Kaw has a lot of water, but that water we
Speaker 4: don't know its contents. It drains a huge area. That's
Speaker 4: a good thing. It connects all of the different things,
Speaker 4: whether it's herbicides, pesticides, the new and the pfas, and
Speaker 4: we just don't know what that means yet. But the
Speaker 4: big challenge there is laying a pipeline all the way
Speaker 4: across os H County. Takes more than an hour to
Speaker 4: drive it. It's a lot of cost. So we have
Speaker 4: to look at solutions, multiple solutions that will incrementally build
Speaker 4: what we need to get us fifty years or more
Speaker 4: down the road. I think we're making good progress on that,
Speaker 4: but again, the key is for that solution or solutions
Speaker 4: to be affordable and not spending two and three hundred
Speaker 4: million dollars of tax payer money. I take that very seriously,
Speaker 4: and I think we're making good progress thank you deal.
Speaker 1: This will be also the same question for Tim Sherick.
Speaker 1: Our water supply issue was identified in two thousand and two,
Speaker 1: and over the years various councils have studied the issue.
Speaker 1: What specifically would you do to address our water supply?
Speaker 6: You know, I think that the answer can't be we
Speaker 6: don't do anything, and we've had a long standing term
Speaker 6: where nothing is being done, and I understand that there
Speaker 6: have sometimes been obstacles raised. I'm looking at some information
Speaker 6: here that talks about Hula and the desac rating that
Speaker 6: we get from the corp of Engineers. I'm looking at
Speaker 6: something here from Copan Lake where in February twenty twenty
Speaker 6: four the city requested a reallocation from COE and apparently
Speaker 6: that's not doable. I'm looking at the aid of Amosa,
Speaker 6: and it is compatible with our system, but it doesn't
Speaker 6: seem to be doable. It's twelve million dollars for one
Speaker 6: point four million gallons of water per day. And from
Speaker 6: what I'm hearing across the board from other engineers who
Speaker 6: have studied the issue, is that cow Lake, which could
Speaker 6: provide as much as forty million gallons of water storage
Speaker 6: and supply, could be the best option, And what I
Speaker 6: don't understand is how ENID got it done.
Speaker 1: But we can't.
Speaker 6: Because ENID was able to lay a pipeline, they're able
Speaker 6: to tap Call Lake, They're able to supplement their water
Speaker 6: supply and deal with that issue. We've also heard things
Speaker 6: about like water reuse, which takes wastewater, treats it since
Speaker 6: it's seven miles up the Caney River, recaptures it since
Speaker 6: it back through treatment, and they it to you again
Speaker 6: with water that already has nine contaminants in it that
Speaker 6: are in the classification of forever chemicals, three of which
Speaker 6: are anywhere from one hundred and eighty five to five
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy five percent above healthy levels. We can't
Speaker 6: continue to add more chemicals and pipe it back through
Speaker 6: the same system and then expect it to be potable
Speaker 6: and good for our people at that If we do
Speaker 6: things like that, we should also expect that all the
Speaker 6: job growth is going to be an ascension oncology because
Speaker 6: these are carcinogenic chemicals and our kids are being impacted.
Speaker 6: We need to do something better.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tim, same question to you, Larry East. Our
Speaker 1: water supply issue was identified back in two thousand and
Speaker 1: two and Over the years, various councils have studied the issue,
Speaker 1: what specifically would you do to address our water supply?
Speaker 7: Well, obviously this is a complicated issue that's been going
Speaker 7: on for a lot of years, a lot of studies.
Speaker 7: I think Dale as the studies that I've looked at
Speaker 7: so far, Dale has addressed that of reallocation of water
Speaker 7: at Hula and also at Copan and hoping to get
Speaker 7: this word through Congress that would allow us to procure
Speaker 7: more of that at Copan at an affordable rate. I
Speaker 7: know the water reuse is concerning to me. I know
Speaker 7: right now the plan is to only use that in
Speaker 7: a Stage four crisis situation there on water supply. But
Speaker 7: in view of a bill that was passed in twenty twelve,
Speaker 7: which I think I may not get the name of it
Speaker 7: right here, but I think it was Water for twenty
Speaker 7: sixty that the state has set our goal is to
Speaker 7: not have more water usage than we did in twenty ten,
Speaker 7: and so in order to meet those goals, that may
Speaker 7: be something we have to do at that point. I
Speaker 7: know that's a lot of years out. When when I
Speaker 7: first heard of this, someone called it toilet to tap.
Speaker 7: That definitely sounds concerning. However, if you consider that we
Speaker 7: don't have we're not at the head of the river.
Speaker 5: They're right.
Speaker 7: There are other people upstream, other cities, towns upstream that
Speaker 7: process their waste and it goes into the river as well.
Speaker 7: So we're already processing some of that. That doesn't sound
Speaker 7: attractive to me, but that's something that's probably inevitable at
Speaker 7: some point there.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Larry. We have a fresh question
Speaker 1: for Lauren Biselle. One of the solutions the previous councils
Speaker 1: have come up with was water reuse. Do you see
Speaker 1: this as a feasible solution for the future.
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
Speaker 9: It's not a long term solution. The long term solution
Speaker 9: is to find another and more water supply, I either
Speaker 9: through Copaine Eula or another water reservoir.
Speaker 8: But the water reuse.
Speaker 9: So I want to make sure we're understanding and I
Speaker 9: want to kind of line out some things on water reuse.
Speaker 9: The water we are treating it basically like drinking water
Speaker 9: when we pump it up the stream. The pfas don't
Speaker 9: come from us. We don't put pfas into in those
Speaker 9: forever chemicals into the water. In fact, we're removing a
Speaker 9: lot of it through our treatment process, and we're getting
Speaker 9: it below the levels are required by our state. Our
Speaker 9: state is going to increase those levels in the near
Speaker 9: future and what's required for us to treat that water.
Speaker 9: It is a viable and a solid process that's being
Speaker 9: used in more than just Bartlesville, and this treats This
Speaker 9: addresses an immediate problem to make sure that we do
Speaker 9: have a water supply that is safe, potable, and drinkable
Speaker 9: for all of our citizens so that we can continue
Speaker 9: our growth and keep improving Bartlesville. I do believe this
Speaker 9: is a viable source. It's only kind of a medium
Speaker 9: term solution, and it's only to be used whenever we
Speaker 9: are in extreme drought conditions and going into stage four.
Speaker 9: So I think it's it is viable for us.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 9: We are going to run tests and pilots and everything
Speaker 9: along the way, and in conjunction with the Oklahoma Water
Speaker 9: Resources Board and make sure that we meet all of
Speaker 9: the standards required by them and federal law. We have
Speaker 9: a very intelligent and very smart city staff that's been
Speaker 9: working on this problem for a while. We've had past
Speaker 9: city councils that have had input on it. Our past
Speaker 9: city councils have gotten more water out of Copain and
Speaker 9: other places for us. So we are continuing to work
Speaker 9: on a problem on this problem, and water reuse is
Speaker 9: definitely a solution for us.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Lord Briselle. Aaron Kirkpatrick Award for
Speaker 1: same question to you. One of the solutions the previous
Speaker 1: councils came up with was water reuse, and do you
Speaker 1: see this as a feasible solution for our future.
Speaker 10: It's not only feasible, it's necessary. But how exactly we
Speaker 10: do that is always the question, right. So I've got
Speaker 10: a background in treatment and water purification for a business
Speaker 10: that I had that did oil and gas, sight ice
Speaker 10: and water. Taking dirty water out of the ground turning
Speaker 10: it into pure water you can drink is what we did.
Speaker 3: We did exceptionally well re using the water that we have.
Speaker 10: Right, we can't make it rain more, been praying, but
Speaker 10: outside of that, can't give us more water than we have,
Speaker 10: so we got to make use of what we currently do.
Speaker 3: Have some things you need to know about pea fasts.
Speaker 10: It literally doesn't come from us, meaning we're not producing it,
Speaker 10: but it literally comes from us. It goes into your body,
Speaker 10: some of it stays in your body and the rest
Speaker 10: of it goes out as a waste product. And so
Speaker 10: if you don't figure out how to treat your pa
Speaker 10: FAST and your water, what ends up happening is what's
Speaker 10: happened in southwest Texas where the ground becomes so contaminated
Speaker 10: they can no longer grow crops on it or have
Speaker 10: cattle on it because it'll kill the cows and the
Speaker 10: crops will kill you. So we have to figure out
Speaker 10: something to do with this. Fortunately, talking to my friends
Speaker 10: over the water treatment plant here locally, the p FAST
Speaker 10: concentration is not that high thanks to our watershed.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 10: So how do we reuse our water? I got to
Speaker 10: take care of my time. I can't preach here, sorry,
Speaker 10: how do we use our water? Talking to the guys
Speaker 10: out of the water treatment plant, the best idea that
Speaker 10: the idea that they really love first is gray water
Speaker 10: dual piping, which means right now, we treat water coming
Speaker 10: into the system and then we treat it going out
Speaker 10: of the system. Treating water, especially when it comes to
Speaker 10: heat and energy, is forty percent of the cost of
Speaker 10: water treatment. So what we don't want to do is
Speaker 10: treat water multiple times. So Graywater reuse allows us to
Speaker 10: take water from our sinks, from our showers, those kind
Speaker 10: of things, and use it to water our lawns and
Speaker 10: our gardens and agriculture. Okay, you don't want to roll
Speaker 10: that out at once, as Dale said, it would cost
Speaker 10: hundreds of millions of dollars. So what you do instead
Speaker 10: is you begin to put in gray piping or dual
Speaker 10: piping every time you replace the line, which happens constantly.
Speaker 10: When you do that, you roll it out over time
Speaker 10: and then allow individuals to voluntarily connect to it through
Speaker 10: our use of water.
Speaker 3: Water Bill rebates that.
Speaker 10: Plus what they have recommended is actually just letting the
Speaker 10: water plant give out rain barrels to every citizen who
Speaker 10: wants one to use on their garden, to use on
Speaker 10: their and their lawn.
Speaker 3: And that's all the time I got.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you Eric Quentin Ship or Ward for same
Speaker 1: question to you. One of the solutions the previous councils
Speaker 1: came up with was water reuse. And do you see
Speaker 1: this as a feasible solution for the future.
Speaker 11: Yes, I do, Tom, and I don't want to repeat
Speaker 11: the comments have already been made, as many of them
Speaker 11: would be things I would say So I've been to
Speaker 11: the water resource of the water treatment plant and the
Speaker 11: wastewater treatment plant, and I've seen the process they're going
Speaker 11: through to work with these studies to ensure that we
Speaker 11: have water that is safe and clean in the water
Speaker 11: recycling process. So a little different take, so I'm not repeating,
Speaker 11: is a lot of people that I talked to about
Speaker 11: the water don't realize that the water that we have
Speaker 11: here serves fifty five thousand people. It's just not just
Speaker 11: water for Bartlesville. We're providing water for many of the
Speaker 11: people throughout our county, several of the Navy towns, and
Speaker 11: even East Osage County. So when we talked about water,
Speaker 11: it's not just for us. It's a much larger population.
Speaker 11: And another thing that I like to discuss with people
Speaker 11: have had a lot of feedback on is the whole
Speaker 11: thing of conservation. In that sense, we can all be
Speaker 11: responsible citizens, and when we were forced to take will
Speaker 11: not force people have the choice if they wanted to
Speaker 11: conserve or not during some of the extreme measures this
Speaker 11: last year, but it also put people into a situation
Speaker 11: where they became a habit. It became a habit for
Speaker 11: them to be more conservation minded, so some of the
Speaker 11: just educating people about what water resource, what resources are,
Speaker 11: what the water treatment is like. The fact is water costs.
Speaker 11: It costs everywhere. Costs are going up for treating water.
Speaker 11: I believe that we have a very high quality and
Speaker 11: standard of water here in Bartlesville that we're also serving
Speaker 11: others with, and we can compare that to other communities,
Speaker 11: other cities, and we're very privileged to have what we
Speaker 11: have and to have it at the affordable, relatively cost
Speaker 11: for which we pay. So I'm grateful for the good
Speaker 11: work of the city and providing a high quality of
Speaker 11: water that we have.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Quinn shipper Ward. By treppor Dorsey, we have
Speaker 1: a different question for you. In Oklahoma, cities can only
Speaker 1: receive property taxes for improvements by issuing geo bonds. Do
Speaker 1: you support the use of geo bods for continued improvements
Speaker 1: to our city's infrastructure.
Speaker 12: I do support the use of geo bonds, and thank
Speaker 12: you for the different questions, so I don't just have
Speaker 12: to say what they said. When you get to be last,
Speaker 12: then you get everything already said. I do support that,
Speaker 12: and I think that as a council and is a city,
Speaker 12: we have done a very good job with issuing those
Speaker 12: bonds and trying to keep the mills at a certain
Speaker 12: level so that it's not burden some tax wise for
Speaker 12: the citizens. And earlier we've talked about all these committees'
Speaker 12: boards and trust everyone in the community also serves on those,
Speaker 12: and I encourage anybody that has a passion for one
Speaker 12: of those if there's a vacancy.
Speaker 1: We always need good people.
Speaker 12: But we take a lot of those recommendations, whether it's
Speaker 12: going to the streets, parks, wastewater, and we use those
Speaker 12: funds to always keep the city where it's at and
Speaker 12: improve the city year over year. And so I do
Speaker 12: think that that's very viable. I know that certain communities
Speaker 12: that have let bond issues lapse, when they go back
Speaker 12: and try to issue new bonds, a lot of times
Speaker 12: people aren't very excited about that because their mills and
Speaker 12: their taxes are going up. So I know that the
Speaker 12: council that I've served with, we've always tried to make
Speaker 12: sure that we are using those geo bond funds to
Speaker 12: maximize everything for the city and to keep it at
Speaker 12: a certain level and not increase them so that the
Speaker 12: tax burden becomes higher.
Speaker 1: Thank you worry much as you passed the micropot back
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Speaker 1: In Oklahoma, cities can only receive property taxes for improvements
Speaker 1: by issuing geo bonds, and you support the use of
Speaker 1: geo bonds for continued improvements for city's infrastructure. I do.
Speaker 4: I think that there are a variety of ways to
Speaker 4: get revenue, but at the end of the day, the
Speaker 4: government cannot spend any money that it did not colleck.
Speaker 4: So if we're not going to do geo bonds property tax,
Speaker 4: then what are we going to replace it with? And
Speaker 4: that's a question that nobody, including me, likes tax. But
Speaker 4: without them, our streets and our water plan, all these
Speaker 4: massive things, whether it's fire trucks at a million dollars each,
Speaker 4: but we have to have those things. And it's either
Speaker 4: get the revenue or let our infrastructure decline and deteriorate.
Speaker 4: And I've already said we want to go the other direction.
Speaker 4: We have as the city council, and in fact, for decades,
Speaker 4: the city councils have always maintained in Bartlesville about a
Speaker 4: fifteen MILLI levee might be fourteen point eight seven, might
Speaker 4: be fifteen point one two, depending on the math and
Speaker 4: how things calculate. But we have not raised that, and
Speaker 4: that's something I don't think that we should raise, but
Speaker 4: it provides the last time the voters and the city
Speaker 4: council does not do this, the voters approve those for
Speaker 4: seventeen little over seventeen million dollars. We dedicated over seventy
Speaker 4: percent of that twelve point three million. I believe to
Speaker 4: street upgrades, repairs, and maintenance. We think that that needs
Speaker 4: that attention. But that's how our parks, that's how so
Speaker 4: many of our big capital projects are financed. And if
Speaker 4: we don't finance them there, then you would use what
Speaker 4: some states have income tax. Some states have a variety
Speaker 4: of methods that they use, but the Jill Bond property
Speaker 4: tax seems to be working. So if it's not broke,
Speaker 4: don't fix it, and we can talk about what's a
Speaker 4: proper assessment. Fifteen mills, twelve and a half seventeen. But
Speaker 4: I think that Martinsville has been very balanced and fair
Speaker 4: and we have gotten a lot done and we need
Speaker 4: to do more, so I do support them.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dale, Tim Sherick Ward one. We have another
Speaker 1: question here for you that we'd like to ask. We're
Speaker 1: all aware of infrastructure issues such as the Tuxedo Bridge project,
Speaker 1: which initially came in nearly double the estimated cost. How
Speaker 1: would you fund continued improvements for our infrastructure?
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's viausly going to be a matter
Speaker 6: of having to collect that from our citizens here.
Speaker 1: There's going to have to be some kind of tax.
Speaker 6: What level is what we need to look at, And
Speaker 6: we also need to make sure that things like that
Speaker 6: are prioritized. We need to make sure that we're actually
Speaker 6: purchasing the necessities before we purchase amenities. So I would
Speaker 6: like to see, for example, our streets restriped to eliminate
Speaker 6: a public safety hazard with some of that money instead
Speaker 6: of just saying, well, we're going to put in another
Speaker 6: pickleball court. I understand that that serves a segment of
Speaker 6: our community. I don't want them to not be able
Speaker 6: to get their physical exercise. I'm sure I would enjoy
Speaker 6: it if I were to take it up and had
Speaker 6: the knees for it, but I don't. But I think
Speaker 6: we need to run our house as if we're actually
Speaker 6: going to manage a budget like our house, we need
Speaker 6: to look and say, Okay, streets and water and bridges
Speaker 6: and roads are more important than pickleball and wayfinding signs.
Speaker 6: In a city of thirty eight thousand people, I think
Speaker 6: we know where the library and the courthouse are, and
Speaker 6: those things play into smart city TESS technology that could
Speaker 6: be implemented later on, which is an Orwellian surveillance society
Speaker 6: that no one wants to consider. These are not things
Speaker 6: that we really want to have in our community.
Speaker 1: But we weren't.
Speaker 6: Really asked if that was the case. They just spent
Speaker 6: on it. And so we need to make sure that
Speaker 6: in our house we get our budgets straight. If you
Speaker 6: have the money to do the extras, great, did anybody
Speaker 6: go to college and live in an apartment, have to
Speaker 6: eat ramen. I mean, we need to learn how to
Speaker 6: prioritize the things that we do. So if we are
Speaker 6: going to spend it needs to be on things that
Speaker 6: add value to our hometown, not things that are just
Speaker 6: the fluff and niceties.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Mister Shriwick Lurry East, same same
Speaker 1: question to you. How would you fund continued improvements to
Speaker 1: our infrastructure?
Speaker 7: Well, I think a lot of that's been covered really
Speaker 7: with both of what they've said there. The taxes have
Speaker 7: to pay for that somewhere or another, so whether it
Speaker 7: comes from the go bonds or the other. But also
Speaker 7: at ten pointed out we need the right balance of
Speaker 7: where we're spending that money and how we're spending it.
Speaker 7: And I know there is a balance. We do need
Speaker 7: parks and other things like that as well, but how
Speaker 7: much And definitely I've as I've been out knocking doors,
Speaker 7: I've heard a lot of people talk to that issue
Speaker 7: of saying, why are we spending this much on wayfinding
Speaker 7: signs or pickleball courts or those sorts of things when
Speaker 7: you know my road is in disrepair and I know
Speaker 7: some of those roads may not qualify based on the
Speaker 7: traffic and the pavement condition index there that would make
Speaker 7: those a lower priority. But definitely there is balance, and
Speaker 7: obviously taxes is how we pay for that. And again
Speaker 7: how we do that, whether it's through go bonds or otherwise,
Speaker 7: we've got to pay somebody there.
Speaker 1: So all right, thank you very much. Larry Ard to Laureniseille,
Speaker 1: same question, how would you fund the continued to prove
Speaker 1: it's to our infrastructure here Bartlesville.
Speaker 9: Well, I think they've already covered the fact that sales tax,
Speaker 9: sales tax and gobon those are two main tax sources.
Speaker 9: This is the two main sources of revenue that we
Speaker 9: use as a city to keep our services running, our
Speaker 9: infrastructure to take cared for. I think what we have
Speaker 9: to do is they've already said, and I agree with
Speaker 9: everything that's been set up here, except for the fact
Speaker 9: that some of our amenities they help bring visitors to
Speaker 9: our town, they help drive revenue to our town, and
Speaker 9: those visitors to our town also, believe it or not,
Speaker 9: translates to people living in our town and working in
Speaker 9: our town.
Speaker 8: So I don't want to neglect those.
Speaker 9: I think where we can achieve the balance is the
Speaker 9: fact that we need to look and make sure we're
Speaker 9: responsibly spending the sales tax dollars that we collect.
Speaker 8: For you in order to do maintenance.
Speaker 9: There's new technologies for street maintenance that we can apply
Speaker 9: so that we can lengthen the life of a road
Speaker 9: and we can make it better for longer so that
Speaker 9: we don't have to replace it, because replacing is ten
Speaker 9: times more expensive than maintaining a road. So let's let's
Speaker 9: look at how we maintain roads and at the same time,
Speaker 9: how we replace.
Speaker 8: Roads that need to be replaced or repaired.
Speaker 9: So we need to be looking at every project that
Speaker 9: comes through GO Bond and say does this fit and
Speaker 9: how does this fit with a strategic plan that you,
Speaker 9: the citizens, have given us input and told us that
Speaker 9: are the priorities for you in our town. So when
Speaker 9: we collect your taxes and we and we put those
Speaker 9: to work for you, we're putting them to the work
Speaker 9: the way you told us to put the work. Put
Speaker 9: them to work, and you told us streets and infrastructure
Speaker 9: is what you want, and so we're going to go
Speaker 9: do that. But it's a dual effort of making sure
Speaker 9: that we maintain our infrastructure as well as repair and
Speaker 9: replace our infrastructure when it requires Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Lauren. Aaron Kirkpatrick, We have a
Speaker 1: new question for you now. I had a listener email
Speaker 1: me this comment recently, and it goes like this, My
Speaker 1: daughter can no longer safely run on Pathfighter because the
Speaker 1: whole business crisis has gotten so in their words, out
Speaker 1: of control. The question is, how do we solve this
Speaker 1: homeless issue.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I wish that listener was the only time I'd
Speaker 10: heard that story. My daughter's best friend was chased at
Speaker 10: knife point by a homeless man. My own daughter can
Speaker 10: no longer ride on Pathfinder because she was harassed twice
Speaker 10: by two different homeless guys in one evening. Obviously, on
Speaker 10: every homeless person is a criminal or aggressive like that.
Speaker 10: But I don't know any women who still walk on
Speaker 10: Pathfinders safely by themselves.
Speaker 3: Here's how we fix it.
Speaker 10: And these ideas come after lots of conversation with helping organizations,
Speaker 10: with the police officers all across the board. This plan
Speaker 10: will work. I call it the high way out of
Speaker 10: homelessness or the high way out of here. We need
Speaker 10: to de silo our helping organizations to enable them to
Speaker 10: help homeless people when they arrive in Bartlesville, get onto
Speaker 10: a highway at all points in one direction. We want
Speaker 10: to get you off the street into stable housing. We
Speaker 10: have incredible helping organizations right now, but they don't work
Speaker 10: together efficiently. So I'd like to help fix that, but
Speaker 10: that's really not the government's job. I've already got people
Speaker 10: in place who will come together to put together that
Speaker 10: plan and it can have it going in a month.
Speaker 10: The government's job is to do what the police have
Speaker 10: asked for. Make it lowest level misdemeanors, to do some
Speaker 10: of the things that are causing these problems. Outdoor camping
Speaker 10: in certain areas of on public land certain areas of
Speaker 10: our city, aggressive panhandling outside of businesses, and dumpster diving,
Speaker 10: especially in our businesses downtown. This is a constant issue
Speaker 10: for a lot of our business owners. We make those
Speaker 10: things misdemeanors, not so we can put people in jail
Speaker 10: or levy fines. We're not going to do either of
Speaker 10: those things. But if you do not go along with
Speaker 10: the highway out of homelessness, then we're going to make
Speaker 10: it possible on the back end of this for the
Speaker 10: helping organizations to see who has these misdemeanors so that
Speaker 10: they can just turn off the tap of help. If
Speaker 10: you show up and you've got misdemeanors because you won't
Speaker 10: comply with what the police are telling you to do,
Speaker 10: they say, I'm sorry, we can't help you right now.
Speaker 10: We can't give you these resources until you do the
Speaker 10: community service, get these misdemeanors off your record, and in
Speaker 10: doing so, we will create enough friction in the system
Speaker 10: that people will choose to lead. We're not going to
Speaker 10: force anybody out. It's just simply freedom and responsibility. You
Speaker 10: have the freedom to make these choices and the responsibility
Speaker 10: to take the consequences, not externalize them onto the community.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Quinn Shipper, same question to you, how do
Speaker 1: you think we solve our homelessness issue?
Speaker 5: Well, there are number of things.
Speaker 11: Tom One is to realize this is not just an
Speaker 11: issue for Bartlesville, Oklahoma.
Speaker 5: This is pervasive around the country.
Speaker 11: I think many, if not most, in this room would
Speaker 11: recognize that what we perceive as a person who may
Speaker 11: be homeless has increased significantly over the last four years,
Speaker 11: not just here across the state, across our nation. It's
Speaker 11: not clear there are a lot of people who guess
Speaker 11: how people are coming into our community who are a
Speaker 11: very generous community. And having worked in Stillwater, Oklahoma, where
Speaker 11: we live for twenty two years, part of the experience
Speaker 11: that I bring to Bartlesville, not there were residents here,
Speaker 11: is I helped establish an organization that when we left
Speaker 11: in twenty seventeen, we had over sixty community entities which
Speaker 11: included churches, nonprofits, the Department of Corrections, the hospital, the
Speaker 11: public schools, and many others who've gotten out of their silos.
Speaker 11: That takes time, that doesn't pop out of a box,
Speaker 11: developed relationships, and one of the real turning points to
Speaker 11: lead that forward was a common data system to help
Speaker 11: manage the rehabilitation, the compassionate work that needs to be
Speaker 11: done with many people who have related mental health, substance abuse,
Speaker 11: and public safety issues that they may be causing. And
Speaker 11: so it takes the entire community to be involved with that.
Speaker 11: Very recently, the City of Bartisville will let me back
Speaker 11: up with a strategic plan. Anybody here in the room
Speaker 11: can go and read that. There's several points in the
Speaker 11: strategic plan of the city to be addressing homelessness, not
Speaker 11: just as a pas thing or current thing, but gone going.
Speaker 11: We need to understand what our lane is as a
Speaker 11: city and stay in that lane. We've also proposed and
Speaker 11: had passed a development of a task force time limited
Speaker 11: to bring together strategic partners in the community. And there
Speaker 11: are a lot of people doing some remarkable things to
Speaker 11: assist those who are homeless, to raise them above and
Speaker 11: beyond their circumstance, whatever that might be. So all of
Speaker 11: that to say, there are more questions than answers, and
Speaker 11: I'd like to be part of the answer.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Quinn Trevor Dorsey ward by the same question
Speaker 1: to you, how do we solve our homeless issue?
Speaker 12: Well, as you heard the other two candidates say, there's
Speaker 12: a lot of work to be done and there's a
Speaker 12: lot of resources. One of the things about Bartlesville that
Speaker 12: I've always found amazing after we moved here is I
Speaker 12: think we have to be possibly the nonprofit capital of
Speaker 12: the world. We have amazing organizations that help all facets
Speaker 12: of our community. I do think that a lot of
Speaker 12: the homeless people that have probably migrated here have heard
Speaker 12: about said resources, and I like ideas that Quinn and
Speaker 12: Aaron both said. We have to provide service and get
Speaker 12: those people going the right direction or get them back
Speaker 12: to where they came from possibly. I know, in talking
Speaker 12: with our police department, a lot of the problem, or
Speaker 12: a lot of the help they probably need is with
Speaker 12: mental health services. And I know we do have Grand
Speaker 12: Lake Mental Health here, which is a phenomenal organization. They
Speaker 12: do amazing work. So I think that has helped bridge
Speaker 12: some of the gap. But I think that we need
Speaker 12: more services there on the mental health aspect of it,
Speaker 12: at least in talking with our police force, both the
Speaker 12: city and the county. And so I think there's already
Speaker 12: some good footing that started in trying to move it
Speaker 12: in a direction where we can we can start helping
Speaker 12: get these things solidified. I know that the police also
Speaker 12: have got someone that patrols the Wayfinder because we've had
Speaker 12: some situations and issues on there, and so I think
Speaker 12: that's that's helping address some of that as well. So
Speaker 12: I know that we've got a lot of work to do,
Speaker 12: but I'm confident that we can we can come up
Speaker 12: with the solutions to make it make it all better.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Trevor Dorsy said this.
Speaker 10: The time Limited the time Limited Task Force that the
Speaker 10: city Council approved has a six month window to study
Speaker 10: this issue. That's six months for the listener's daughter. They
Speaker 10: can't get on Pathfinder because it'll be unsafe. And and
Speaker 10: these helping organizations are reaching out directly saying this is
Speaker 10: the plan that we need to be going with. And
Speaker 10: I love that you have a background, so I invited
Speaker 10: you hate be a part of this because the helping
Speaker 10: organizations have reached out to me and said, we're ready
Speaker 10: to act now. We don't need to study for six months.
Speaker 10: We've got decades of experience. We can act on this soon.
Speaker 1: Aaron. We can use some of our time, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate your passion, but we can use some of our
Speaker 1: time in our closing statements to rebid wor to go
Speaker 1: to different topics that may have not have been read.
Speaker 1: But thank you, Dale Copan question to you is how
Speaker 1: pervasive is the homeless population really and what can city
Speaker 1: council do about it?
Speaker 4: I think that the homeless population numerically is perhaps not
Speaker 4: as intense as some have imagined, But then you have
Speaker 4: to start separating that some of those people are truly homeless.
Speaker 4: They have no shelter. Some of those people have no transportation,
Speaker 4: but they may have a place that they do have
Speaker 4: a shelter to stay at night, but when you encounter
Speaker 4: those people on the Pathfinder or in different places, it
Speaker 4: can be a little bit scary. This is something I
Speaker 4: began working with quite a few years ago. In fact,
Speaker 4: Tracy Rowles had just arrived in town as our new
Speaker 4: police chief, and of course that tells you how many
Speaker 4: years ago that was. And we talked about this and
Speaker 4: as he told me and I found to be true
Speaker 4: and has already been mentioned, he described it as a
Speaker 4: three legged stew and you're going to have mental issues,
Speaker 4: mental health issues, you're going to have substance abuse issues,
Speaker 4: and you're going to have public safety or crime issues.
Speaker 4: One leads to the other, and which one is dominant
Speaker 4: will vary, but you have to address all of them
Speaker 4: if you're going to find success. And this has been described.
Speaker 4: There's a number of ways to address that together. But
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, they have to want
Speaker 4: the help, and not everyone does. So the pervasiveness of it,
Speaker 4: I think that it's interesting to me that as desirable
Speaker 4: and wonderful as the Pathfinder is, it also has become
Speaker 4: a bit of a traffic way for that population. Now,
Speaker 4: I would also throw out that these folks are people,
Speaker 4: and they are Bartlesville people, and they're not something that
Speaker 4: we just put in the trash truck in a Halloway.
Speaker 4: They deserve that respect as any of us would, but
Speaker 4: they have to obey the laws. It's against the law
Speaker 4: to camp in a public park. That law should be
Speaker 4: enforced and has been mentioned. We are patrolling the pathfinder,
Speaker 4: we the police department and enhancing those enforcement activities. As
Speaker 4: another is made, we make it uncomfortable, people find another
Speaker 4: place to be. So I think it's a multi pronged approach.
Speaker 4: But the appearance might be worse than the reality, but
Speaker 4: appearances are reality.
Speaker 1: Thank you deal, Copeland. Tim Sherrick, same question to you.
Speaker 1: How pervasive is the wholest population really and what can,
Speaker 1: where should the city council do about it?
Speaker 6: I think the answer to that is that nobody really knows.
Speaker 6: They are transient, and so to try to get a
Speaker 6: feel for how many and who and we just don't know.
Speaker 6: And with a southern border that leaks like a sieve,
Speaker 6: we don't even know if we have bad actors among
Speaker 6: these people. We don't know if we have people with
Speaker 6: history of violent offenses. We don't know exactly what we're
Speaker 6: dealing with We need our law enforcement to more aggressively
Speaker 6: prosecute the laws that are on the books so that
Speaker 6: we can get the people into the system and we
Speaker 6: can get a determination on some of those things. But
Speaker 6: at the same time, I do believe that we want
Speaker 6: Bartlesville to be a city of compassion that flows from
Speaker 6: a desire to see all of our neighbors who wish
Speaker 6: to succeed have an opportunity to do that. And that's
Speaker 6: not just a hand up. That means arms locked with
Speaker 6: our neighbors who are willing to help and be helped
Speaker 6: when we need it. That means keeping government out of
Speaker 6: the business of life building. That is not the proper
Speaker 6: role of government. Our charitable organizations and faith community do
Speaker 6: this best. They deliver hope to the hopeless and help
Speaker 6: to those who need it most. Everyone is entitled to
Speaker 6: an opportunity, not an outcome. For our hometown family members
Speaker 6: that have been injured by an economy run amok, work,
Speaker 6: situations beyond their control, and tragedies that found them unprepared,
Speaker 6: we should be prepared to come alongside and help. But
Speaker 6: what that looks like is encouraging volunteerism and monetary given
Speaker 6: to the organization's best suited to offer guidance and support,
Speaker 6: and then as a city council our only role would
Speaker 6: to be removed any obstacle to their success.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tim Shehrick, Larry East. I have a different
Speaker 1: question for you we received. This is one of the
Speaker 1: top questions, by the way. We received several questions based
Speaker 1: on the city's current process of building its next comprehensive plan,
Speaker 1: which is mandated by the state of Oklahoma. Should the
Speaker 1: city have a comprehensive plan and what should it entail? Wow?
Speaker 7: Okay, the we were required to have some type of
Speaker 7: comprehensive plan. I'm not sure the comprehensive plan that was
Speaker 7: just delivered a couple of weeks ago is the answer,
Speaker 7: at least not in its entirety. In fact, I'm not
Speaker 7: sure if anybody knows that that's the answer. That's I've
Speaker 7: seen the docum. That's almost four hundred pages of comprehensive plan.
Speaker 7: That sounds a little detailed. It's also got some some
Speaker 7: terminology in there and things addressed in a way that
Speaker 7: I'm not comfortable with. And I'm hoping that as the
Speaker 7: vote comes up on November the fourth, I believe at
Speaker 7: the next council meeting that they will table this until
Speaker 7: the citizens have had a chance to review this further
Speaker 7: and give input. I know that the consultants that worked
Speaker 7: on this solicited input from the citizens, and in talking
Speaker 7: with them, I think they said they had about a
Speaker 7: ten percent response rate and so and even so that was,
Speaker 7: you know what, close to a year ago when that
Speaker 7: input was gathered, and I think we as the citizens
Speaker 7: deserve to be able to see that full plan and
Speaker 7: give some feedback on it before it's actually approved. And
Speaker 7: you used as guidelines for the future of our city.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Larry Lord Rosela. The same question to you
Speaker 1: once again. We've got the process of building the next
Speaker 1: comprehensive plan mandated by the state of Oklahoma. Should the
Speaker 1: city have a comprehensive plan and what should it entail?
Speaker 9: This is a great question, and I love this because
Speaker 9: this is toxic strategy for our city, right.
Speaker 8: But this is not just strategy. So I've been a
Speaker 8: part of.
Speaker 9: A lot of organizations, a lot of business organizations that
Speaker 9: have said, let's develop a strategic plan. So a strategic
Speaker 9: plan should do a few different things. A strategic plan
Speaker 9: should identify what's your core function, what should you have
Speaker 9: done if if nothing else, this needs to be accomplished.
Speaker 9: These are the values we want to hold to in
Speaker 9: everything that we do. This is a plan and how
Speaker 9: we make this happen going forward. Plus it should have
Speaker 9: an also a renewed period. This is an ever evergreen thing,
Speaker 9: a strategic plan. It should be renewed, refreshed, updated continuously.
Speaker 9: So I do want to give this some time with
Speaker 9: our communities to have them look at it, give them input.
Speaker 9: They've had a lot of input so far to develop
Speaker 9: the draft of the comprehensive plan, but I would like
Speaker 9: for them to give input on what we've got so
Speaker 9: far and give us some more ideas and some more
Speaker 9: input on that. I want that, But we have to
Speaker 9: start moving forward. We have to start executing because we're
Speaker 9: moving into a budget cycle.
Speaker 8: And we use the strategic plan to.
Speaker 9: Set our priorities, to set our budget to make sure
Speaker 9: that we're doing what you say you want us to do.
Speaker 9: And we keep refreshing this document, refresh our strategy, and
Speaker 9: we move forward with the priorities that you tell us
Speaker 9: as you.
Speaker 8: Give us input going forward.
Speaker 9: But we use it as a strategic initiative to set
Speaker 9: our priorities and set our budgets.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much, Lord Rozelle Well Eric Kirkpatrick,
Speaker 1: same question to you comprehends who play it mandated by
Speaker 1: the state of Oklahoma. What should the city have as
Speaker 1: far as its COMPREHENSI who play it, and what should
Speaker 1: it entail?
Speaker 10: I'm not sure that I've seen a lot in the
Speaker 10: comprehensive plan yet that I didn't already know by knocking
Speaker 10: doors and talking to neighbors as far as things that
Speaker 10: the city needs to address or that we have going forward.
Speaker 10: So let me just tell you a few things that
Speaker 10: are interesting that stuck out to me. Number One, Bartlesville's
Speaker 10: population is projected to grow only somewhere between four and
Speaker 10: eight percent. So whatever thinking economically as far as development goes,
Speaker 10: is not going to be because we see a massive
Speaker 10: wave of new people. So that means we need to
Speaker 10: be developing our local resource, our local human resources, our
Speaker 10: untrained workforce. If we're going to grow our economy, it
Speaker 10: has to come from within, it will not come from without.
Speaker 10: I think that's important to know. There were several places
Speaker 10: where I said, ooh, this is cool. You know, how's
Speaker 10: this gonna happen? They said, well, this is not necessarily
Speaker 10: going to happen. It's just kind of a mockup of
Speaker 10: what could happen if you all decide to do it,
Speaker 10: So it's you have a lose guide.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm okay with that.
Speaker 10: My favorite part was that they wanted to expand the
Speaker 10: pathfinder to southeast a little bit more. That's cool, but
Speaker 10: in reality, the things that it identifies as needs aren't
Speaker 10: the things that we already know are needs. It just
Speaker 10: gives us a legal framework by which to pursue them.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Eric Kirkpactrick. We go now to
Speaker 1: Quinn Shipper, a little bit different to spin on the
Speaker 1: question here, are you familiar with the city's current comprehensive
Speaker 1: plan and if anything, what would you change.
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, I appreciate the comments have been
Speaker 11: made and don't want to repeat anything, but I also
Speaker 11: wanted to clarify there are two things that may be
Speaker 11: confused here.
Speaker 5: One is the City of Bartell has a strategic.
Speaker 11: Plan and we might want to think of that like
Speaker 11: a blueprint or a road map, and those are things
Speaker 11: in the near future that the City of Bartlesville is addressing.
Speaker 11: And out of that came the impetus for the Comprehensive Plan,
Speaker 11: which we call Endeavour twenty forty five, and it is
Speaker 11: mandated by the state, so therefore we have an obligation
Speaker 11: to address that. I've been on that committee since its inception.
Speaker 11: It's been a twelve month study. There have been numerous
Speaker 11: opportunities to receive citizen input, strategic stakeholders, all that sort
Speaker 11: of input over the last twelve months. And so going
Speaker 11: forward the Comprehensive Plan, I think that Lauren alluded to this,
Speaker 11: it has built into it periods of refreshing, revising, but
Speaker 11: it's not something just to go on a shelf.
Speaker 5: The strategic Plan.
Speaker 11: Every month, I believe there's an update to the city
Speaker 11: Council and so all citizens can go and follow the
Speaker 11: updates to the Strategic Plan when the Comprehensive Plan is adopted.
Speaker 11: And from my perspective, right up until the very last meetings,
Speaker 11: you know, four hours.
Speaker 5: The other Monday, with the.
Speaker 11: People who have been guiding us through the process, different
Speaker 11: stakeholders in the community, those within the city, we had
Speaker 11: citizens present, and so from where I say that there's
Speaker 11: been plenty of opportunity for citizen input, and this council
Speaker 11: will decide I guess on Monday whether to table that
Speaker 11: or adopt that. But even at our last City Planning Commission,
Speaker 11: there was a very thorough review and the adoption of
Speaker 11: change that had been recommended by various stakeholders, including citizens.
Speaker 11: So I think we're very well positioned to adopt and
Speaker 11: build on the strategic.
Speaker 5: And the comprehensive plans. It's two separate things.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Quinn Schipper, Trevor Dorsey Ward five. Same question
Speaker 1: to you, familiarity of course with the comprehensive planned, What
Speaker 1: if anything would you change?
Speaker 12: Well, as Quinn stated, I also served on that committee,
Speaker 12: and so for the past twelve months, we've worked diligently
Speaker 12: with the firm that we hired, and I think that
Speaker 12: that provides.
Speaker 1: Not only a base, but.
Speaker 12: A forward look, a current look, forward look, and then
Speaker 12: where we're going.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 12: As far as what I would change, you know, I
Speaker 12: don't know. I think we we've spent a lot of
Speaker 12: time and got a lot of citizen input, and we
Speaker 12: also had a very diverse segment of the community that
Speaker 12: served on that committee with us throughout that process, and
Speaker 12: so I think there was a lot of good input.
Speaker 12: I didn't realize it was only ten percent, but I
Speaker 12: guess that was probably discussed in them in the meeting
Speaker 12: of people that did respond to the surveys. But there
Speaker 12: was a lot of opportunity for citizen input and I
Speaker 12: think that, you know, one of the things that I
Speaker 12: was glad that to see address. There's a lot more
Speaker 12: things that I think that we probably need for our youth.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 12: There's not a ton of things for them to do
Speaker 12: in the community, but we have tried to address that
Speaker 12: through GEO bonds with the skate park, we redid the
Speaker 12: ball fills, the soccer fields. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 12: of different things. I know the pickleball ball court has
Speaker 12: been discussed, but there that is a very I guess
Speaker 12: you know, anybody can play pickleball, and it's not just uh,
Speaker 12: you know people my age. A lot of youth are
Speaker 12: really involved in that. And so I think we we
Speaker 12: tried to encompass all of the community and and and
Speaker 12: find the things and the and the issues that we
Speaker 12: needed to address for for the entire community. And so
Speaker 12: I think so far that's a pretty good working document.
Speaker 1: Or hang onto the microphone, because we're gonna work our
Speaker 1: way backward on that. Yeah, we're gonna do. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do something a little different here. This is a question
Speaker 1: everyone will have the same question. It's our final question
Speaker 1: of the night before we go into our closing statements. Well,
Speaker 1: we're all aware of the events at Unity Square the
Speaker 1: last few years that have divided our community. What do
Speaker 1: you see as the role of a city councilor on
Speaker 1: addressing this matter.
Speaker 12: This has probably been almost as big an issue you
Speaker 12: as when we all had to go through COVID and
Speaker 12: navigate that. But I know it is a very heightened
Speaker 12: issue for all the community. I know Barlsville is very conservative,
Speaker 12: and I think for the most part most people you know,
Speaker 12: identify with faith, and so it's been a big issue.
Speaker 12: I think early on, you know, a Miss King and
Speaker 12: I think there was a group that led with the
Speaker 12: petition that stated that they did not want certain types
Speaker 12: of activity in our public space, and that led to
Speaker 12: an agreement with At the time, I believe it was
Speaker 12: Oklahoman's for Equality. Now it's Bartlesbill for Equality to not
Speaker 12: have certain events at the Pride festival that once that
Speaker 12: agreement lapsed. Of course, this year there was another performance
Speaker 12: at the Pride event, and I personally, I think those
Speaker 12: kind of activities don't need to be in our public space,
Speaker 12: and I think a lot most, if not the majority,
Speaker 12: of citizens also agree. I knew we currently have ordinances
Speaker 12: that speak to leude and lascivious behavior, but I don't
Speaker 12: know that we really get in the weeds defining that
Speaker 12: what that is. And so I believe that maybe we
Speaker 12: have some work to do or we can define that
Speaker 12: better so that hopefully we can curtail some of the
Speaker 12: things that have taken place in our public space.
Speaker 13: Thank you, Queen Shipper.
Speaker 1: The same question to you, what do you see as
Speaker 1: the world of the city councilor on the addressing this
Speaker 1: matter with the issue that has been dividing our community
Speaker 1: with the abed secunity square.
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, I'd like to say that the
Speaker 11: city Council is strictly nonpartisan, and my role, as all
Speaker 11: the city councilors is to be impartial and to show
Speaker 11: respect to all citizens of our community, regardless of their
Speaker 11: political affiliation or any other thing that might quote unquote
Speaker 11: define them.
Speaker 5: This is my position.
Speaker 11: A couple of months ago, as a city council, we
Speaker 11: passed a proposition maybe it was a resolution on the
Speaker 11: word wrong, and I swore an oath, as did everybody
Speaker 11: on the city Council, to uphold the Constitution of the
Speaker 11: United States and the constitution of our state. And that means,
Speaker 11: and I believe, I would hope that everybody in this
Speaker 11: room would like to adhere to the Constitution, which has
Speaker 11: to do with First Amendment rights. And so I was
Speaker 11: in agreement with that because it was an issue of
Speaker 11: First Amendment rights quite apart from any kind of activity
Speaker 11: that would be going on a Unity Square or any
Speaker 11: other park or any other public place. And so from
Speaker 11: a First Amendment rights perspective and my commitment to uphold
Speaker 11: our state and our national constitution, this has to be
Speaker 11: addressed from that perspective, because I don't want to be
Speaker 11: on a council that decides who has the right to
Speaker 11: be in the public space and who does not. And
Speaker 11: so we want to adhere to our First Amendment rights
Speaker 11: in that matter. And that's all I'm going to say
Speaker 11: on the matter.
Speaker 1: I think very much good Shipper word for Aaron Kirkpatrick's
Speaker 1: same question to you. Events at the Unity Square over
Speaker 1: the past few years have divided our community. What do
Speaker 1: you see as the role of a city councilor addressing
Speaker 1: that matter.
Speaker 10: I put out a video on this early in my
Speaker 10: campaign where I laid out a legal framework that protects
Speaker 10: the First Amendment but also only regulates based on health outcomes.
Speaker 10: The government has the legal right and responsibility to protect
Speaker 10: the health outcomes of minors. So I'll invite you to
Speaker 10: go to my Facebook page and go watch that video.
Speaker 10: I explained how it would work, and I've talked to Trevor.
Speaker 10: I talked to Jess. Jessaid, that's a really interesting legal theory.
Speaker 10: If the council gave me a task me on it,
Speaker 10: I'd go track it down.
Speaker 3: I think it might work.
Speaker 10: How would I deal with it as a city council member, Well,
Speaker 10: I'll tell you I'd rather lead by example. So this
Speaker 10: Sunday night, I'm throwing a unity party for all of
Speaker 10: Bartlesville rather than letting politics divide us and letting Unity
Speaker 10: Square be a place is always about division. I've invited
Speaker 10: all the city council members who are I've invited both
Speaker 10: political parties, So Democrats and Republicans are coming to celebrate America.
Speaker 10: We've got boy scouts and bands and singers just coming
Speaker 10: to celebrate that we are Bartions and neighbors, even into
Speaker 10: the middle of an election season. We can talk about
Speaker 10: you know why I do this or I do that,
Speaker 10: and we should regulate it as needed, or not making
Speaker 10: sure that it's always.
Speaker 3: In line with the Constitution.
Speaker 10: But it's one thing to say, on this one thing
Speaker 10: that happens one day a year, I'm going to make
Speaker 10: it a really big deal. Or we can say, let's
Speaker 10: lead by example and actually build unity into our community,
Speaker 10: because when we see each other as human beings and
Speaker 10: we break bread together and we celebrate the things we
Speaker 10: have in common, we're much less likely to get at
Speaker 10: each other's throats over these things we don't have in common.
Speaker 10: I sat down with some of the leaders from the
Speaker 10: Drag Show to address their concerns about it. By the
Speaker 10: time we got done so I think we're friends now
Speaker 10: because when you actually treat people like people, you can
Speaker 10: disagree and still find common ground. So my goal with them,
Speaker 10: if elected to the city council, as we've already talked about,
Speaker 10: she and I would be to negotiate ahead of time
Speaker 10: so it doesn't become the divisive thing that it is
Speaker 10: now and instead we find ways to celebrate unity in Bartlesville.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Eric, Ripactrick Lauren Roselle question to you, We've
Speaker 1: got the big events at Unity Square, grabbed a lot
Speaker 1: of headlines, a lot of airtime past few years, divided
Speaker 1: our community. What do you see as your role of
Speaker 1: city councilor it's addressing this matter.
Speaker 9: So I'll echo my fellow counselman's thoughts on this. I
Speaker 9: took an oath whenever I became city councilman to uphold
Speaker 9: the constitution of the United States of America, uphold the
Speaker 9: constitution of the state of Oklahoma, and I intend to
Speaker 9: continue to do that. I will stand by the votes
Speaker 9: that I have taken. My opponents like to characterize my
Speaker 9: votes as having voted for drag shows. I think if
Speaker 9: you look at my votes, what I did is I
Speaker 9: voted for an agreement with the organization in order to
Speaker 9: take a pause on drag shows and not to have
Speaker 9: a drag show that year. I don't think that was
Speaker 9: voting for drag shows this time. I voted for a
Speaker 9: resolution to help ensure that people could exercise their First
Speaker 9: Amendment freedoms and do it safely and protect our community
Speaker 9: and make sure that we did not have an issue.
Speaker 9: And that's the resolution that I voted for. So it's
Speaker 9: easy to set up here and say that you don't
Speaker 9: want drag shows to happen. What I challenge you is,
Speaker 9: if you come to me and have a conversation with
Speaker 9: being telling me what action you actually want me to take,
Speaker 9: and the city said, we'll go look and see if
Speaker 9: there's an ordinance that we can make, we task our
Speaker 9: city attorney to do that. We looked far and wide
Speaker 9: for attorneys that would like to get involved in doing that,
Speaker 9: and they said no because it would be unconstitutional. So
Speaker 9: I challenge you that if you'll set on the city
Speaker 9: council and vote, and when your city attorney looks at
Speaker 9: you and says that's unconstitutional, they will sue you. You
Speaker 9: will lose, It will cost you millions of dollars, and
Speaker 9: you won't be able to have that money to spend
Speaker 9: on other things that we really need to do in
Speaker 9: this city. I'm going to vote to uphold people's constitutional
Speaker 9: rights and that's where I stand on it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Laura Zelp. Larry East save question to you,
Speaker 1: what do you see use your I'm a city councilor
Speaker 1: on addressing this very issue that's dividing our community.
Speaker 7: Well as I've campaigned all along that I'm running to
Speaker 7: represent family values and so I want to protect the
Speaker 7: vulnerable and through that, yes, I want to do what's
Speaker 7: in line with our constitutional rights. But I think that
Speaker 7: there's more that we can do than what has been Uncertainly,
Speaker 7: from what I understand, on a couple of years ago,
Speaker 7: there needed to have been I think some arrests made
Speaker 7: in what was entertainment. Then from what has happened in
Speaker 7: this year's show, again, I was not able to attend
Speaker 7: either one. I've only seen pictures or heard people describe
Speaker 7: what went on there, and from what I understand happened
Speaker 7: this year that it was not of the sexually provocative
Speaker 7: nature that happened two years ago. From that, I think
Speaker 7: legally we will have challenges there. It's going to take
Speaker 7: a very creative solution, perhaps something like Aaron has proposed
Speaker 7: over there. I don't really know. That's something that's going
Speaker 7: to take a lot of research. We want to do
Speaker 7: it carefully, we don't want to I'm not has actually
Speaker 7: had a conversation with Mike Bailey on this several weeks back,
Speaker 7: and as he said, you know, it's not as much
Speaker 7: being afraid of being sued. It's afraid of being sued
Speaker 7: through something stupid that we've done, and so we don't
Speaker 7: want to do that. We want to be very careful
Speaker 7: in how we approach it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Larry tim Sherick Ward. One same
Speaker 1: question to you about the events at Unity Square in
Speaker 1: the past few years had divided our community and what
Speaker 1: do you see as the role of a city councilor
Speaker 1: addressing this matter.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, let me just put this out
Speaker 6: there for everybody. You can have a drag show. You
Speaker 6: can do that, but it's an adult activity and it
Speaker 6: belongs in an adult venue where somebody's checking IDs at
Speaker 6: the door to make sure that you're not exposing our
Speaker 6: youngest and most of the bonum or citizens to something
Speaker 6: that is harmful by its very nature. Our values need
Speaker 6: to be defended against the forcible violations of special interest groups,
Speaker 6: and the city council is the de facto steward of
Speaker 6: decency in our public spaces and has a duty to
Speaker 6: be sure that our values are maintained, our ordinances are
Speaker 6: not violated, and adult behaviors are limited to adult participants.
Speaker 6: The Constitution of the United States absolutely does not protect
Speaker 6: this activity. I have here my own personal copy of
Speaker 6: the Constitution that I keep in my pockets, so I
Speaker 6: can refer to the text directly. You won't find freedom
Speaker 6: of expression in the First Amendment. What you will find
Speaker 6: is freedom of speech. So the Court has devised what
Speaker 6: they use as a test called symbolic speech. It protects
Speaker 6: things like civil rights marches, okay, votes for women. It
Speaker 6: protects all of those kinds of things. You go into
Speaker 6: the Capitol and holding a sign that says you didn't
Speaker 6: do something right.
Speaker 3: Congress texts that.
Speaker 6: But anything that is lewd, salacious, or sensual, it absolutely categorically.
Speaker 3: Does not protect.
Speaker 6: The promoters of this event have characterized their own performance
Speaker 6: as either cabaret or other such entertainment, which by definition
Speaker 6: is an adult activity that is typically hosted within a
Speaker 6: bar or a restaurant that serves adults. IDs are checked
Speaker 6: at the door, and you protect the other participants who
Speaker 6: shouldn't be exposed at a very early age to those
Speaker 6: kinds of activities. My twelve year old doesn't want to
Speaker 6: see a drag queen on her way to the library,
Speaker 6: and I think most of the families are in agreement.
Speaker 6: As I've knocked doors around the community. One of the
Speaker 6: first questions that has come up is what are we
Speaker 6: going to do about this? This doesn't belong in our
Speaker 6: public space, so we need an ordinance that was originally
Speaker 6: mandated to be delivered.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tim Dale Copeland Ward. One same question to you.
Speaker 1: With the events at Unity Square the last few years,
Speaker 1: a lot of division in the community, what do you
Speaker 1: see as the role of a city councilor aught addressing
Speaker 1: this matter?
Speaker 4: Well, there has been a lot of division, and a
Speaker 4: two hour event has created thousands of hours of division.
Speaker 4: And it really doesn't matter what I like or don't like.
Speaker 4: I don't attend that event, I don't attend other events.
Speaker 4: I don't attend casinos or other things because I choose
Speaker 4: not to.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the.
Speaker 4: Day, as has been described, I think the council has
Speaker 4: the legal obligation to follow the law. And I have
Speaker 4: observed that the attorneys general's offices with hundreds of attorneys
Speaker 4: that specialize in this sort of thing in Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Montana.
Speaker 4: I also saw Saint George, Utah make a decision that
Speaker 4: was ill advised. In every single case, the courts have
Speaker 4: ruled against those and some of them are continuing to
Speaker 4: work their way through that system. It is a problem
Speaker 4: that must be addressed, but it must be addressed legally,
Speaker 4: and it causes me to wonder if a city of
Speaker 4: thirty eight thousand people has the capacity and the skill
Speaker 4: set to do something that states have not been able
Speaker 4: yet to accomplish. I would also point out, as I've
Speaker 4: shared with people as EE knocked doors, that they did
Speaker 4: find the language, but it took sixty years to find
Speaker 4: the language for Roe v.
Speaker 1: Wade.
Speaker 4: Now, whether you're for it or against it, the facts
Speaker 4: of the matter are that eventually that situation was addressed
Speaker 4: to the satisfaction of a certain group of folks. I
Speaker 4: don't doubt this will be the same. But in the meantime,
Speaker 4: if we expose our citizens because any judgments, any legal cost,
Speaker 4: not only will distract the city from doing those core services,
Speaker 4: it will also be added to our tax bills. Whether
Speaker 4: we're for it or against it, it goes on everyone's taxes.
Speaker 4: I well notice too that the protester, the chief, biggest, loudest,
Speaker 4: most well known protester, praised the City of Bartlesville in
Speaker 4: their police department for providing a safe environment for all
Speaker 4: parties concerned to practice and express themselves. So I think
Speaker 4: that's something we need to pursue. Thank you, Thank you
Speaker 4: very much.
Speaker 1: Now it's now time for our closing statements and we
Speaker 1: will start with deal Copeland Ward one.
Speaker 4: Thanks radio for hosting the candidate for microphone. Microphone, Hey
Speaker 4: do use that too? Yeah, okay, start my time, start
Speaker 4: my timer over. Okay, sorry about that. Thanks again Bartol
Speaker 4: Radio for hosting this. Thanks to our best for their hospitality,
Speaker 4: as they always do. I've been blessed to live here
Speaker 4: most of my life. My wife of fifty three years, Donna,
Speaker 4: and I went to school here. We raised our sons here.
Speaker 4: We got to watch our grandsons and not only attend
Speaker 4: the same school as I did, but to play sports
Speaker 4: and to grow up here too. One of our sons
Speaker 4: is in law enforcement. A grandson is now a local
Speaker 4: school teacher. One of my brothers was a teacher and
Speaker 4: a principal until his retirement. In Bartlesville. Public service is
Speaker 4: important in our lives. We think it's important to give
Speaker 4: back and participate in our community. It's a wonderful place
Speaker 4: to live. Sometimes we might take that for granted, but
Speaker 4: a short trip and when you come home and you
Speaker 4: see that unique skyline. It makes you understand Bartlesville is special.
Speaker 4: And when you talk with folks who've come here from
Speaker 4: other places and you hear their surprise and also their
Speaker 4: praise for Bartlesville, I know we should never take it
Speaker 4: for granted. But a great community doesn't happen by accident.
Speaker 4: A lot of folks have given their time, talent, and
Speaker 4: treasure over the years to make it special. It's our
Speaker 4: turn to continue the legacy, just like them. We'll have challenges,
Speaker 4: We've talked about them tonight. We'll have failures, we'll have opportunities,
Speaker 4: but working together, we can address what I feel are
Speaker 4: those three fundamental requirements financial, health, course services, and yes, civility.
Speaker 4: Our city provides many services, but it's never a simple,
Speaker 4: single issue challenge. I'm reminded of a friend and former
Speaker 4: city manager, Ed Gordon, who often was quoted as saying,
Speaker 4: together we can. So I've come to learn a few
Speaker 4: things in my life, and they're important to me. I
Speaker 4: want to share them with you. From my church, I
Speaker 4: learned gratitude for God's grace and his love. From my scouting,
Speaker 4: I learned servant leadership and teamwork. From my city, I
Speaker 4: learned how we come together to accomplish more than anyone
Speaker 4: could do alone. And I want to continue building for
Speaker 4: the future. And I asked the voters of Ward one
Speaker 4: to vote for me, Dale Copeland for your city council.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Dale Covid, Ward Wide Adele, Tim Sherrick,
Speaker 1: Ward one, Tim.
Speaker 6: Well, you've heard a lot of information tonight, and I
Speaker 6: know that that can be an awful lot to try
Speaker 6: to take in. I can tell you for myself, it's
Speaker 6: like drinking from a fire hose when you look at
Speaker 6: the breadth and scope of what needs to be dealt with,
Speaker 6: and the issues we've been talking about impact whether Bartlesville
Speaker 6: will continue to be a great hometown. With so much
Speaker 6: detail and discussion, it's important, though, to keep the main
Speaker 6: things the main things. The conversations I've had with constituents
Speaker 6: who I'm sworn to represent if elected, indicate that we
Speaker 6: want Bartlesville to be the most family friendly, kid safe
Speaker 6: city in Oklahoma, where public spaces can be enjoyed with
Speaker 6: the only expectation being of building great memories together. We
Speaker 6: want it to be a place with the kind of
Speaker 6: character that causes people to dream about escaping to Bartlesville
Speaker 6: to build a life, not escaping Bartlesville to start over.
Speaker 6: We want it to be a place that values its
Speaker 6: residence enough to make sure their needs are being addressed
Speaker 6: before trying to bring in outside consumers of already limited resources.
Speaker 6: We need to take care of our neighbors before newcomers.
Speaker 6: We needed to be a healthy place that realizes that
Speaker 6: the greatest quality of life investment that we can make
Speaker 6: is in providing an adequate supply of safe, clean water.
Speaker 6: We want it to be a fiscally responsible place that
Speaker 6: demonstrates the wisdom of acquiring and maintaining necessities before amenities.
Speaker 6: And these issues may not all be easy to solve,
Speaker 6: and there are likely difficult decisions to be made in
Speaker 6: coming days, and you, the people, will have to make
Speaker 6: the choice of how best to safeguard your livelihood and liberty,
Speaker 6: how to protect our hometown, family values, and provide for
Speaker 6: a city that our children will inherit and be proud of.
Speaker 1: Will you join me?
Speaker 6: I'm asking for all of you to vote for Tim
Speaker 6: Sherrick on November fifth to make sure that Bartlesville remains
Speaker 6: a great place to call home.
Speaker 1: That was Kim Sherrick Ward one. We now moved to
Speaker 1: Larry East in ward two.
Speaker 7: Larry again want to thank Kawe and RS for hosting
Speaker 7: this out here. I thank all of you for coming
Speaker 7: out to engage and learn a little bit more about
Speaker 7: each of us here. I hope that well, I trust
Speaker 7: that everybody here tonight and who's watching and listening will
Speaker 7: go out to vote, and that you'll encourage your family
Speaker 7: and friends to do so as well. And regardless of
Speaker 7: the outcome of the elections, I hope that you will
Speaker 7: engage with the council, come to the meetings. That's something
Speaker 7: that I've you know, often not been there and so
Speaker 7: I've learned a lot through this process and it's it's
Speaker 7: been very educational. I hope that you will get educated
Speaker 7: if you're not already in participating in the councils, in
Speaker 7: the boards and committees that are available for you, to
Speaker 7: have more of a voice, and don't be afraid to
Speaker 7: contact your council member as I know, just you know,
Speaker 7: talking with any of these guys that they want you
Speaker 7: to take advantage of that they want to hear from you,
Speaker 7: and not just during the public comment time at the
Speaker 7: council meeting, but to even have a sit down conversation.
Speaker 7: And I think we can go a lot more forward
Speaker 7: together by doing that. I'd appreciate your consideration. On November
Speaker 7: the fifth, Thank.
Speaker 1: You, Larry East Also Ward two, Lord Reselle.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 9: I want to think everybody that's intendance tonight, Barcel Radio,
Speaker 9: our sponsors Harvest Bank, but also every person setting up here,
Speaker 9: because service and especially public service is something that comes
Speaker 9: from the heart, and you have to have a heart
Speaker 9: for it, and I know that every person up here does.
Speaker 9: I love Bartlesville, and one of the things I love
Speaker 9: most about barcelol is even when we disagree about things,
Speaker 9: we help each other, We lift each other up, We
Speaker 9: come together for each other. This is our town. Don't
Speaker 9: come after our town. We'll stand up for it. This
Speaker 9: is our town and we will protect everybody in this
Speaker 9: town and lift them up and help them have to.
Speaker 9: You have to love that about our community. It's one
Speaker 9: of the I think it's one of the things that
Speaker 9: makes us a great community. I love serving and making
Speaker 9: other people successful. The things you hear about in the
Speaker 9: news and on the radio, they're a small percentage of
Speaker 9: what we actually do as city councilmen. The things you
Speaker 9: don't see, the call you get saying hey, I got
Speaker 9: a drain these problem? Can you help me with this?
Speaker 9: And you put them into contact with the right person
Speaker 9: and get them help and their their life is improved
Speaker 9: every day because of that thing you did that nobody's
Speaker 9: ever except them is gonna hear about.
Speaker 8: Maybe their neighbors.
Speaker 9: They're gonna call you up and say, hey, I think
Speaker 9: my street needs some attention.
Speaker 8: Can you come look at it with me?
Speaker 9: And you're gonna go out there and you're gonna look
Speaker 9: at it, and you're gonna stand there and you're gonna
Speaker 9: listen to them, and you're gonna talk, and you're gonna
Speaker 9: represent them and try to fight for one of their
Speaker 9: projects in the twelve million dollars street bond issue. You're
Speaker 9: going to serve your community and you're gonna help make
Speaker 9: other people in your help community successful.
Speaker 8: That's what I'd like to do.
Speaker 9: I'd like to keep growing these opportunities when my kids
Speaker 9: want to live here and my grandkids want to live here.
Speaker 9: I want to serve the community that I love. And
Speaker 9: I hope you vote for me because I've spent the
Speaker 9: last two years and I'm just now hitting the ground
Speaker 9: run and learning everything that I need to know so
Speaker 9: that I can be really effective as a city council person.
Speaker 9: So I appreciate your vote on on November fifth, so
Speaker 9: I can can send you're serving you and making Barzel successful.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Lord Mizelle Ward two Ward War
Speaker 1: Aaron Kirkpatrick.
Speaker 10: I'm so excited for Bartlesviille's future. We have so much potential.
Speaker 10: We've been talking about a lot of high level stuff,
Speaker 10: but the things that make me most excited to be
Speaker 10: running for city council are the micro issues. We've not
Speaker 10: talked about a lot that is ward for specific tonight.
Speaker 10: It's the people in Oak Park that say, hey, could
Speaker 10: we get a speed bump out here because we want
Speaker 10: our kids to be safe when they play, especially for
Speaker 10: the new families that are moving into one hundred and
Speaker 10: one houses.
Speaker 3: That are being built.
Speaker 10: But also could we make sure that Virginia gets fixed
Speaker 10: after the construction vehicles are done. It's my neighbors on
Speaker 10: the west side of the tracks to go there. Our
Speaker 10: houses are getting knocked down and we got no plan
Speaker 10: to build more housing.
Speaker 3: What would you do?
Speaker 10: And then talking through strategy with them to go, oh,
Speaker 10: we could partner with development and really make more affordable
Speaker 10: housing for people. Because more affordable housing and owner occupied
Speaker 10: housing is a big deal on the west side of town.
Speaker 10: It's talking to business owners. It's saying like, hey, I'm
Speaker 10: investing in these buildings. My property taxes are killing me.
Speaker 10: But also I've got more ideas for incubating other people's
Speaker 10: ideas so that we can all be more successful together.
Speaker 10: Seeing the candleshop have sixty businesses in one room so
Speaker 10: that they can benefit entrepreneurs from all over the community.
Speaker 10: It's figuring out how to get creative infill for sidewalks
Speaker 10: so that a guy could walk to church for the
Speaker 10: first time the day that I've met him and prayed
Speaker 10: with him. Like, these are the things that are exciting
Speaker 10: to me because they're the human level. The high level
Speaker 10: stuff matters to all of us. The homelessness crisis, it
Speaker 10: hits my community the hardest.
Speaker 3: Because that's where the helping resources are.
Speaker 10: So when those people are reaching out saying hey, when
Speaker 10: the both the homeless people I've spoken to and the
Speaker 10: helping organization say this plan will make it better, it
Speaker 10: impacts all of my neighbors, and every one of these
Speaker 10: issues that we improve improves the quality of life for
Speaker 10: all of Bartlesville for decades to come. That's why I'm
Speaker 10: excited about being a part of the city council, and
Speaker 10: that's why I hope you vote for me on the
Speaker 10: number fifth.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Aerin Kirkpatrick, Ward four. Also from Ward four,
Speaker 1: Quinn Shipper, thank you so much.
Speaker 11: Tom and Kawan Barrows were ready for hosting this and
Speaker 11: the generous hospitality always out here at Arvest Bank, and
Speaker 11: I recognize almost every face in the audience, so I
Speaker 11: feel like I'm at home with people I know. So
Speaker 11: it's nice for everybody who came out. Thank you when
Speaker 11: I came out of the City council, and this will
Speaker 11: be true for everyone who comes under the city council.
Speaker 11: Soon afterwards, you were sent to an Oklahoma Municipal League
Speaker 11: one day training and it starts by saying, we're gonna
Speaker 11: teach you two things today. We're gonna teach you one
Speaker 11: how to do your job and two how to stay
Speaker 11: out of jail. So I thought I'd better pay attention,
Speaker 11: and I learned a lot that day. I think, in
Speaker 11: our own respective ways, we all bring experience and we're
Speaker 11: informed and engaged in the community in different sorts of ways.
Speaker 11: I live in Ward four. It is the most diverse
Speaker 11: ward in our city. It spans from north of Highway
Speaker 11: sixty Adams Road, from the Highway seventy five all the
Speaker 11: way to the runway of the airport, everything north of that.
Speaker 11: When they did the redistricting, you go to Shinee downtown
Speaker 11: south to thirteenth and cut west. There we have the
Speaker 11: economic engines that are the primary employers of our city
Speaker 11: are in this ward. We have every form of education
Speaker 11: you can imagine, and the seat of the public public
Speaker 11: school system is down the street from where I live.
Speaker 11: We have over twenty four churches in the ward where
Speaker 11: I live. We have media of various types in our community.
Speaker 11: Of course, we're also the seat of city and county government.
Speaker 11: It is very, very diverse, and going from one side
Speaker 11: to the other, knocking doors, meeting people has informed and
Speaker 11: excited even more my desire to continue being in a
Speaker 11: place where I can live, work, play, and serve those
Speaker 11: who are my neighbors and friends, and not just in
Speaker 11: Ward Far, but throughout this entire city. As is often said,
Speaker 11: you know, you may not be able to vote for me,
Speaker 11: but on the council I get to cast a vote
Speaker 11: for you.
Speaker 5: We're in this together. We're a team.
Speaker 11: They didn't give me a magic wand but we're here
Speaker 11: together to serve Bartlesville. I'd appreciate your vote for me
Speaker 11: to continue on the City Council.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: They can quid ship re Ward war Ward Pibe.
Speaker 12: Trevor Dorsey, Well, first of all, I'd like to thank
Speaker 12: BARSZWIL Radio. All of our sponsors are best for hosting
Speaker 12: this and everyone that's in tenants tonight, watching on live
Speaker 12: stream or listening. I know we talked a lot a
Speaker 12: lot about issues tonight and hope that not everybody focuses
Speaker 12: strictly on the issues. I know we'll continue to have
Speaker 12: issues today, tomorrow and going forward. A lot of those
Speaker 12: issues will have to be addressed to GEO bonds, and
Speaker 12: there's expense that goes along with those. Some issues will
Speaker 12: will have to take a lot of the community collaborating
Speaker 12: together to overcome those. But Bartsville has a lot of
Speaker 12: amazing things. You know, Beth Dorsey and I we moved
Speaker 12: our family here because Barnsville is such an amazing community.
Speaker 12: We have a wonderful school system. We have one of
Speaker 12: the best educations I think K through twelve in the state.
Speaker 1: We have.
Speaker 12: OKU, we have Track County Tech, we have RSU. There's
Speaker 12: many opportunities for education. We have a great health system,
Speaker 12: and we continue again to try to take those GEO
Speaker 12: bond funds and sales tax revenues and spread them across
Speaker 12: the city to make it better each and every day.
Speaker 12: And I know that the council that's here currently we
Speaker 12: have worked to provide and make Bartlesville better. And I
Speaker 12: know and I want to thank everyone that's here, Tonine,
Speaker 12: everybody that's on this days I think loves Bartlesville wants
Speaker 12: to see it succeed and get better and continue to
Speaker 12: be the wonderful place that it is to work, live
Speaker 12: and play. I know I wouldn't I wouldn't want to
Speaker 12: be anywhere else than Bartlesville. And I'm grateful that I'm
Speaker 12: getting to raise my kids here. So with that, it's
Speaker 12: been an honor and a pleasure to serve the constituents
Speaker 12: of Ward five for the past seven years. And I
Speaker 12: would appreciate your vote so that I can continue to
Speaker 12: be your representative and your voice in Ward five.
Speaker 13: TREBORNEURSI word five, Ladies and gentlemen, just give a hand
Speaker 13: to all of our candidates today from participating. Thank you
Speaker 13: very much. I'm Tom Davis.
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Speaker 20: You know you're right, Tom. I think what we saw
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