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Speaker 1: And welcome to everybody. Happy Wednesday to you. The day

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is the twelfth day of November, Year of Our Lord,

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twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan and a

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little different podcast today. I'm going to record early because

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of the fact I've got an event I need to attend.

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So I talked to as Salty the other day and

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recorded that conversation. I'll play that for you here in

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just a few minutes. But to start off the day,

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one of the things that I've been scratching my head

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on is I've been watching this whole issue ever since

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the election last Tuesday a week ago, and the Democrats

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had a good night and they came out and they said, well, affordability, affordability, affordability,

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and then the President says, oh, that's not true. There's

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making that up. The Democrats are lying and everything else,

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and I'm going no, Actually, the economy, I've talked about

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this a number of times about the economy is being

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described as K economy, the letter K, where one arm

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is going up and the other arm is going down.

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And that's what we have in the country right now,

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is there are a lot of people that are on

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the up leg of the K but there's also a

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lot of people on the down leg.

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Speaker 2: There's statistics galore.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bore you with all of them,

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but I've told you also a number of times that

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the top ten percent of income are the ones responsible

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for fifty percent of retail sales. That means there's a

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lot of people. That means the ninety percent, the bottom

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ninety percent of incomes are not doing the kind of

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spending of the top. The top ten percent is spending away,

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and it's keeping the economy afloat. But that is that

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is hiding the fact that there's a significant portion of

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our economy where people are not doing well financially. So

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when you get and this is it doesn't it plays anytime.

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It doesn't have to have these kinds of economic situations.

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There's always going to be people that are lagging behind economically,

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And so to scoff at that seems like it's politically

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not a good idea. You always want to say, I'll

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bring the poorest to the poor, we'll fix that, We'll

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get that. You're never going to fix poverty, But you

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can't scoff at it. So what's happened obviously in the

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administration is somebody got to somebody, and they sent Scott Bessant,

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the Treasury Secretary, out this morning to visit with the

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people at Fox and Friends and to basically go over

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the whole business about affordability. Last night, I forget which

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channel it was, but it was one of the left

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wing channels, and they were playing a side by side

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of President Biden talking about can't you see the economy

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is doing great? Why it's just doing wonderful? And people

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were hurting, but he said, other, the statistics show the

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economy is doing great. And then they played a clip

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of President Trump in the Oval Office almost were for

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word the same exact thing, can't you see the economy's

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doing great? But it does hide the fact that there

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are people that are not doing well. So affordability is

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a real word and it applies to real people, and

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so Scott Besant tried to make his case. At least

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I think this is just the start of it. Between

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now and the midterms a year from now, I think

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you're going to see a lot of Republicans trying to

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dust off the affordability word and make sure that people

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not just them saying, don't you worry it's affordable really

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try through policies to get the cost of goods lower.

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Speaker 2: Here's Scott Bessont.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's tough to do a lot of specific things,

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but I can tell you you're going to see some

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substantial announcement over the next couple of days in terms

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of things we don't grow here in the United States,

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coffee being one of them, bananas, other fruits, things like that,

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so that will bring the prices down very quickly. We

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inherited this affordability mess. It was the worst inflation forty

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fifty years, one of the worst in the nation's history.

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And affordability has two components, So there's the price level

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and then there is income level. And what happened under

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Biden was the cumulati inflation Stated inflation CPI was twenty

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twenty three percent of what happened to working Americans. Their

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basket of goods and services, food, insurance, auto payments was

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up in the thirties, so they felt a real gigantic

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differential there.

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Speaker 2: And what we are.

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Speaker 3: Going to do is by bringing back high paying manufacturing jobs.

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President Trump is going to do what he did in

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the first term, and that is for hourly workers and

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working Americans to have real wage increases. So imagine two lines.

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is leveled out, that is going to start turning down.

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Then there's the income line, which under Biden, because so

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many of the jobs were government jobs, you can't get

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real wage growth from a government job. Real wages are

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going to increate, and I would expect in the first quarter,

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second quarter of next year those two lines are going

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to cross and the American people are going to start

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feeling better. But look, this has been a tough period.

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I say that you are going to feel it that.

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I was just down in my hometown in Charleston, South Carolina,

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on Friday, and this new boweling plant is opening up.

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That's one thousand new jobs that the President has brought back.

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There was a I went to a rarer earth plant

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up in Sumter, South Carolina. Eight hundred construction jobs, three

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hundred permanent jobs that they think could come three thousand

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permanent jobs. And the great part of the story there

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those were caterpillar workers who've been laid off. Thanks to

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President Trump, a new factory has moved in. So as

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we bring these trillions of dollars of investment into the US,

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they're all starting to break ground now. And look, I

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would have loved to be able to snap my fingers

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have these facilities going. It takes time. We got the

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tax bill passed on July fourth, which gives huge incentives

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to come to the US, build your factory, expense it immediately,

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and create American jobs. And I think twenty twenty six

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is going to be a blockbuster year. So you can

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see the effort is underway by the Treasury Secretary to

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blunt this accusation about affordability, whether it's real or not real,

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They've got to get their arms around it, and he

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started that today. I think you'll see more of this

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kind of interview going on. It also did not help

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that during the shutdown you saw government workers standing in

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food lines. I mean, that's the kind of thing that just,

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you know, psychologically makes people think that things are really bad.

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The economy is doing pretty well, but not everybody is participating.

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Not everybody will ever participate. But President Trump did a

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great job in trump one point zher of getting rid

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of a lot of regulations that allowed businesses to be

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more profitable, expand build more factories, hire more people. That

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brought the unemployment rate way down from where it had

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been prior to him, So we'll see if he has

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that same magic in Trump two point zero.

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Speaker 1: So today the House is going to reconvene at twelve

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noon and they are well. They're saying that they expect

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to vote on the continuing Resolution by around four pm,

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but that usually means much later than that, so we'll see.

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The airlines are still a mess, and this is getting

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to be an interesting story so far. This is this morning,

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Wednesday morning, eight hundred eighty four cancelations, twelve hundred and

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sixty delays. Number one airport for problems is Chicago O'Hare,

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followed by Denver, followed by Atlanta, followed by Houston, followed

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by Seattle. So it's still a mess. And one of

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the things that the airlines are being very careful about.

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They don't want to complain too loudly, but they're saying

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there was no reason to cut back on ten percent

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of flights. It hasn't changed the safety margin at all.

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We had a clip the other day of an air

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traffic controller out of Denver who said, whether if I

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talked to ninety planes a day or eighty five planes

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a day, it won't make any difference to it's not

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that big of a deal. So once the paychecks start

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rolling in again, the air traffic controllers should be back

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on the job. So, because I've got to make this

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an abbreviated podcast today, I talked to Salty a couple

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of days ago, and we haven't heard from him for

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a while. So I picked up the phone called Salty

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and he brought us up to date on how everything

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in Salty world is going.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Tom doing all right. You know. I had to

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go through a surgery and I still got one to

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do in December. But I've been busy in the one

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legged man in a butt kicking contest, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it sounds like it's salty.

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Speaker 4: But I took on a little side job to help

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a buddy mine do a kitchen. But we had to

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remove a wall and there was plumbing and electrical. It

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was pretty uh pretty uh intense for this old boy.

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But uh, I got it done before before my surgery,

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uh part one, And uh I'm just taking a break

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because I can't really do anything, uh you know for

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a few weeks, and then I'll have about three weeks

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to lift and stuff before my second surgeon and then

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I'm gonna be down for four to six weeks. Uh,

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so I'm gonna be stir crazy because it's gonna be

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right around the Christmas holiday.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, Uh four to six weeks, man, that's a long time.

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And I can't imagine you being still that long. So

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you're in construction obviously, I mean, yeah, you can't go

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lifting things after Surely.

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Speaker 4: I am enjoying the extra income, you know, uh with

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depending on what you know, you see Joe Biden, he

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took he took a little bit more than Donald Trump.

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But uh, you know, I hate to make it political,

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but uh, you know it is. It is good to

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have the extra money. And I'm only need I'm on

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need to break. Uh this extra side job really did

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wear me out just a little bit. So it's it's

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coming at a good time. And you know, like I

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always say, Tom, I'm standing on some lambin at Florin

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right now. It's always to be good on this side

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of the lambin at Florin, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, yes, so yeah.

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Speaker 1: And and having that whole extra paycheck at Christmas time,

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I think most people think that's a pretty good idea.

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I mean, I don't know. Of course, you got to

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pay taxes on that though, salty. You got any you

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got any travel plans? What are you gonna do? I mean,

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if you're you're gonna be sitting around stir crazy. I mean,

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I know travel right now is kind of hard. But

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you're thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's it's a good thing. It's this uh current

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situation with my surgery keeping me grounded in more ways

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than one, do you know? I hate it for what's

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that old boy's name, mayor, mister Duffy, the secretary of

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the transportation. He's got his hands full, you know. And Tom,

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you keep up with this stuff a lot better than

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I do. But you know, we was already strained in

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the system, was already strained because of the lack of

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you know, the traffic control of people, you know, and

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you know, somebody told me maybe you can straighten us out.

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Did We never fully recovered from from when Reagan you know,

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and I love Ronald Reagan when he let all men

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and women go years ago now, but we never fully

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got back where we needed to be.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was eighty one or eighty two, something like that.

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controllers that were the newbies that were hired, they did

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a poll career and they're now pretty much retired.

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Speaker 2: So they're.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're onto a whole new crew that they're training.

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Speaker 4: Well that that does that doesn't make sense. It does

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make sense, you know. I don't. Here's the thing, Tom,

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I mean, holy cow, I'm not happy about what just

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happened in Virginia. I don't live in New Jersey and

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I really don't know nobody from New Jersey really, but

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I feel bad for them. But I'm feeling a lot

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worse for our own our own state. And uh, you know,

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uh the politics. You know when people say, well politics

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don't matter, well, you know what when we had the

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first uh god forbid close call in the air, you know, uh,

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I just don't want it to be too late, and

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you know, the call this thing to shupers, shut down whatever.

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All I know is government ain't working.

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Speaker 2: No, and.

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Speaker 1: It's shut down. Yeah, I mean, so it's really not working.

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And so what about Virginia? What happened in Virginia? What

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was the story there?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? You know, the funny thing is even when government's working,

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it ain't working that great.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not like they're all that productive most of

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the time. But but yeah, and Virginia, you know how

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blue and that's where the population is. And so I

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know you live down in the red part of Virginia,

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but yeah, up in Fairfax County and down in Norfolk,

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that's where the Democrats live and that's where the population is.

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Speaker 4: They just released that, you know, the county by county

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with the red and the blue colors on it. And yeah,

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you can see as clear as day, you know, uh,

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the north of US Charlottesville and working your way over

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to the swamp, it's blue. And then you got the

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blue out there. Uh you know when the over near Chesapeake,

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Uh Norfolk. Uh, yeah, he is Tom Now, you know,

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southwest Virginia and I saw some Winsom Seers. And I'm

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not talking about these because these are farms along the interstate.

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for Spangenberg. Uh, but the lot of them out there

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for Winsome and I had the chance to see her

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at an event. Uh she came up and uh this

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was now Biden was still present, so we was thinking,

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you know, uh, is Bidain gonna come to the microphone

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ever again? And and and not tripping the stairs on

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the getting into the Air Force one but the winsome

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Seers he spoke at to volunteer organization cool Change in

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their name after a number of years, and she was

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there to speak and she went up there. She didn't

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have a three by five card, Tom. She just spoke

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right off the top of her head, in front of

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her heart. And I thought, uh, you know, we didn't

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know back as it is eighteen months to twenty four

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months ago, whether she was gonna run or not. And

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I heard somebody ask her she was running for governor

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and she just smiled at that point. But you know,

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I think I think she had a deep Well, now,

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this other gal, I don't know a whole lot about.

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You know, all the commercials I had to you know,

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Salty likes to watch them a little TV at night

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to relax. But I swear these commercials they was running

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to win some seeres. They made her look angrier than Medea.

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Oh yeah, angry black woman movies.

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Speaker 1: Oh geez, yeah, no, that's what they do. The photo

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editors are great at finding the very worst photo of you.

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But that yeah, that's you know, you were down in

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red part of Virginia and I looked at I looked

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at the county by county in Virginia overall looked red.

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Speaker 4: Right now that I had a question for you, and

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I you know, yeah, Trump, And I think this makes

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sense because I've talked to them on about it and

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some other people and they nodded their head. You know, uh,

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where we got all them big uh agencies. You see

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all them buildings in d C in the in the

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the the center of the universe for this country is

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is you know, Washington, d C. And uh, why do

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we have the Department Agriculture sitting in the middle of

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that concrete palace And why not move it out to

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the middle of the country to a red state and

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move some of these agencies out of the out of

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there and and tell them if they don't work in

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the building, they're lose your jobs, and make them not

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work from home, and uh move some of these agencies

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out to get that lock uh that that that jammed

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up lock up Washington, d C. And get them out

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there where real people live and spread this thing out

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and get some of that populations the heck out of

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northern Virginia because Northern Virginia wags it and there's this

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tail that wags in the whole state.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I like your idea of why not

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put the Department of Agriculture out in like the heartland

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of America, you know, put them where the farmers are.

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Maybe they would maybe they know something or two about farming.

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But you know what the big project that that Department

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of Agriculture. They're the ones who control the food stamp program.

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They write the check.

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Speaker 4: They didn't prove anything. Uh we It doesn't matter where

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we are, you see uh and you get you get

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in one of them there uh t one eleven lines

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in the in your building, and it don't matter where

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you are. You can be in the middle of Alaska

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and run a department from there. So we don't have

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to have all that concentration in DC because you know,

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make make you know all them lobbyists that they just

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you can tell me if this is true or not, Tom,

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But I've heard that like when a bill comes to

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the the to the floor like a big bill. Like

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let's say, uh the the Uh this is a laughter,

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uh the Affordable Care Act hardly but literally they literally

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these special interest groups deliver the legislation to the legislators

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and they put their stamp on it and improve it.

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They don't even do their job.

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Speaker 1: No, the the And there are many cases where the

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lobbyists are a bunch of lawyers and their firms. They

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write the legislation, they bring it over to Congressman whatever,

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and and they're they just rubber stamp whatever the lobbyist wrote.

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So but the USDA, I mean, they do their their

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big job doesn't seem to be farms. It seems to

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be food stamps. I mean that's what they do. And

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the lobbyists are there. That's where the lobbyists are.

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Speaker 4: Tom. Now this gonna make it made me laugh, Okay,

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because I look at the Facebook. You see uh and

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if and it's a shame, shame of self promotion. But

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if you want to be friends with Sophie, you just

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got to go to Solka Henderson. And you see that

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name with the sun lasting with the big smile. That's me.

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But I look through the faithbook, Tom the last twenty

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four hours. And I swear, uh if they didn't put

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that that fancy hat that the pope wears on top

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of Nancy Pelosi's head with all the news story, yeah

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did she's even where she's the first female pope. They've

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done made it out like, oh, what a distinguished career.

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She brought us Obambacare after the after the Special Interest

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handed it to her, and she said her famous last words, well,

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we won't know what's in it until we pass it,

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because that was she couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Create it, right, you're right, that's exactly that famous line

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about you have to pass it to know what's in it.

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That was when they passed Obamacare, excuse me, the Affordable

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Care Act, which is not affordable. But Nancy Pelosi is

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a saint to people on the left. She was powerful.

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You got to give that to her. The lady controlled

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Democrats in the House of Representatives like nobody else because

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she was really good at raising money, and she doled

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out the money to members of Congress, and therefore they

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were indebted to her for their jobs, for their jobs.

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So I don't know, we don't have anybody like that

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on the Republican side.

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Speaker 2: That's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not around. I mean Mike Johnson. I think he's

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doing a great job, but he doesn't have that iron

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fisted control over the Republicans at all. So yeah, well

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she'll be she'll be going out the door. And uh,

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the the Democrats are looking for leaders anyway her her.

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Speaker 4: Do especially you know, you think about when she was

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whipping them people into shape. She was in her seventies

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and uh you know, you know, uh now she was

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still whipping him, you know, when Trump was at the

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end of his uh term, that first term that that

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would call it trump one point oh or whatever that means.

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But anyway, she she knew how to get her her

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ducks in a row, and uh you know, Uh so

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I got a respect her because she, you know, even

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managed to get AOC. Now, AOC is kind of like

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a caged uh tiger that's had red meat put out

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all around the cage. Uh, because soon as Nancy's gone,

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you know, they're gonna release the hounds and uh you know,

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and I saw and you can straighten me out on this,

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but uh, I've done seen already the two top people,

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uh you know, because the body is still not quite

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cold enough yet that she's leaving. But the two top

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Democrats uh that probably gonna run for her seat. One

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of them is uh worked for AOC and he is

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a uh he's one of them socialist uh commies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and uh yes, uh and he's.

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Speaker 4: Young, he's attractive and if he speaks half as good

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as your new mayor, uh, he's probably gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm that's where the energy. That's where the energy is

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for the Democrats. That's where the energy.

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Speaker 4: I follow Nascar, Tom Okay, I follow Nascar. I think

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I've said that on the show. And uh, you know,

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uh when when somebody wins the champion, shit, I mean

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they're thanking all the sponsors. I want to thank PEPSI,

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I want to thank Todd Soap because they get all

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the dirty, nasty grease stains out of my jersey. They

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thank all the people you see. Uh. They don't get

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out there and uh and slay the people that they beat,

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or maybe even run off a track to win like

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a Dale Earnhardt. You know he doesn't. He didn't say,

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you know that awful Mark Martin got in my way,

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so I just pushed him into the wall. And you know,

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all the rest of them people they shouldn't even been

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able to put gas in their cars when they went

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to the pits. That's what rother Than Boswami or whatever

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the heck his name is, h Mam Damie. Uh. You know,

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he was angry as hell. What is that about? He

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just won and he is angry, and I think he's

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already lifted the curtain a little bit. Tom.

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Speaker 1: I thought I heard David Axelrod, who's died in the

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woold Democrats, talking about that victory speech that ma'am down

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he gave. And even the ax Rod was going, oh boy,

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that's not the way to do this. You can't go

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out there like that, very angry and IM not gonna

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win any friends with that your speech.

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Speaker 4: And you know they're talking about the the rhetoric. Rhetoric.

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Uh uh, you know we got tna we got to

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tone it down, Tom. I mean, gosh, you know, we

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ain't talk since we lost Charlie Kirk and all that mess.

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But we got to turn it turn the volume. He said,

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turn the volume up. I'll be dying if we better

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not turn the volume down. And uh, he went after

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the president. You thought Donald Trump uh was running against him,

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and you know, if he ever has to drive by

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any of Trump's buildings in New York City. You know,

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it just got the anger of the daylights out of him.

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Speaker 1: Well, uh, I'm not I'm not expecting much. I just

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hope it's not terrible. I hope it's not a disaster.

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That's that's where that's sadly where I am. I hope

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it's not a disaster. I hope he doesn't try and

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do all of the socialist, communist type thoughts. But that's

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what he's talking about. So I mean, but and and people,

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I don't think what they're worried about is being able

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to afford things. And this whole affordability thing has come up.

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And I know that there's two different there's people with

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money and people without money. But people without money are

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having a hard time making their ends, making the ends meet.

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So I don't know if the Republicans have got to

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focus on that. In my humble opinion, they need to

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start looking at getting prices under control.

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Speaker 4: If they can't tell you, Tom, I love my president

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are right. And uh, you know it's he's had his

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worldwide win, you know, whirldwind tour, saving the countries. Now

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it's time to come home. And save here for the

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next twelve months and help turn his country round. And uh,

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you know, I mean, I know he's having more success

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and he's been adored more in foreign land than he

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is here. But and I'm not saying he's still not

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doing other stuff. But you're right. I've sat I've sat

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down with some friends of mine and uh, you know,

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we're all hard working construction people, and uh we're building

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houses or remodeling houses that will never ever be able. Uh.

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Of course, at my age, I'm not gonna be able

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to afford much. And I'm grateful for what I got,

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Don't get me wrong, got a nice little ranch brick house.

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But you know, these young people, all right, these young people,

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they ain't I don't. I can't imagine what it would

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be like to be starting out right now, knowing what,

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knowing what. These people pin't even for a you know,

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ninety thousand dollars remodel even ten years ago is about

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a double that, or even a little bit more than

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double because the materials have gone up so much. So

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it's economy stupid. Who said that old serpent head, didn't

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he the old James Carvill we call him surpent Head

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around our house. But were you talking about an angry man?

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You know, I think I think your new mayor, Rob

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Mandammie has taken some cues from James Carvill and his

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Angry podcast here lately.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

475
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: Carvell is just he did the good old Boy and

476
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,200
and he's very skilled at figuring out how to get

477
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,440
people stirred up about a particular pop talk.

478
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:35,279
Speaker 4: And Donald Trump, you know he's out there. I don't know. Uh,

479
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,720
I don't know about you, but I ain't seeing no

480
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:40,640
two dollar gas. Hell, I ain't even seen two sixty

481
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,240
hardly know if he gets the gas down. He said

482
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:46,400
there's two dollars gas. I don't know where he's talking

483
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,319
about two dollar gas, but it was two dollars in

484
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,200
less than two dollars a gallon is by one five

485
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:55,599
when he left office. Yeah, and you know, I don't

486
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,119
know what he's got to do to get it back,

487
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,759
but if he wants to. And I love the idea

488
00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:03,400
of them doing their own like uh uh convention for

489
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,680
the congressmen and women and the senators and such. I

490
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,240
think it's a good idea. Uh, but you better have

491
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:12,400
a message. You better have some things either in place

492
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,519
or they're so close to being in place that people

493
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:17,279
get can get some optimism because you know you steve

494
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:19,480
followed the markets for years. That's how I love you.

495
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,480
What in the show with the one man band uh

496
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,599
and all that stuff. But you know, uh, you got

497
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,079
to see, I don't have a four or one k

498
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,960
you see before. One case sounds like a race that

499
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,960
we just ran last week to benefits the veterans. Uh.

500
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,720
But I do know uh that you know, to make

501
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,079
ends meet. Yeah, I'm still out here working, you know, so. Uh.

502
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,160
Some's got changed, and I don't know how you change it.

503
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

504
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Speaker 4: In my mind, you government's got like Ronald Reagan. I

505
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,920
just seard the other day the nine most uh uh

506
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,519
treaded words uh in the English language. Or I'm from

507
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:00,000
the government and I'm here to help.

508
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: That's right.

509
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: No, And I know your new governor in Virginia, the

510
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,200
new governor in New Jersey. They also got elected, and

511
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,559
their victory speeches weren't angry, but they were promising that

512
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:16,759
they were going to get the prices down to do that.

513
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,160
I don't know how the government does that either.

514
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: It's going to be.

515
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Very hard, but I really do believe that it's less

516
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,640
than one year now until the midterms, and I think

517
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,119
the Republicans, if they want to people always vote. Number

518
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,559
one issue is the economy.

519
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:34,519
Speaker 2: That's it.

520
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:40,079
Speaker 1: And they've got to try to work on getting these

521
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:43,640
prices under control because right now a lot of people

522
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:44,799
are having enough time.

523
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: Last week, I don't remember who said it, one of

524
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,680
the Democrats said he spend more time, you know, talking

525
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680
to Hamas and he has us. Maybe that was a

526
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:56,759
den bear Jefferies up there up in your part of

527
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:02,039
the woods there, Yeah, I can Jefferys, I think after

528
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:05,640
his name. Uh boy, I'm gonna tell you what, uh

529
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,839
you know? Uh oh shoot now my brain just had

530
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:13,799
a had a meltdown. Oh, I can't remember the Republican

531
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,599
uh leader of the House.

532
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: Uh Mike Johnson.

533
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: Well, no, DoD Johnson number of years ago. He's kind

534
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,319
of big and a little bit heavy set and wore the

535
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:28,839
glasses and you never heard nothing from him. Uh betwent tippy.

536
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,400
I heard. No.

537
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,039
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

538
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,799
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, this goes back.

539
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: No.

540
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell was aggressive, this old boy. He was more

541
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,039
of a wonk what they call wonk where you you

542
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,519
die in the numbers and you get wonky. Uh this

543
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:49,319
this he was one of them, and uh, he barely

544
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,400
ever got out and said anything. I think he was

545
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,640
there during the Bush administration, you know, and it was

546
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:59,079
very like way back. Yeah, guy reminds me of him.

547
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,599
He's kind of not aggressive, although he has said some

548
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,839
mean things here lately, but he's just not cut out.

549
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,720
I'd almost rather see AOC be the leader of even

550
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:11,640
if it's in the minority, and he's gonna get a

551
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,599
few sparks. This guy, he tried to him and old Schumer,

552
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,279
you know, they say a couple of four letter words

553
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:23,160
to show their masculinity and it just makes them look foolish.

554
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of there's a lot of people to

555
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,359
agree with you that the Vakim, Jeffries and nah And

556
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,440
and Schumer just don't just don't seem to have leadership qualities.

557
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,400
But consumer confidence is what you got to get up.

558
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,799
And the latest report is consumer confidence is way down,

559
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,960
way down, I mean down to like twenty years ago down.

560
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,039
Speaker 2: So that's the focus.

561
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:53,039
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because the power bill, you know,

562
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:56,440
the things that make a difference, the gas pump when

563
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,200
you get your you killed his bill, and then you

564
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:03,920
go to the growth restored Tom Hey, I fign uh

565
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:08,280
great values, Uh peanut butter and and stuff like that.

566
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,519
Uh for years because to me, it chases the same.

567
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,559
But I ain't buying no Peter Pan, I ain't buying

568
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:18,000
no jiff. I can't afford it, you see. So I

569
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:21,679
figured out ways to make my dollar go further. And

570
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,480
people have, and God helped the people that have have

571
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,639
uh you know, cuddled up to their credit cards. Because

572
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,920
I keep hearing the the the numbers out there for

573
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,559
the people that are going into debt.

574
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: He's not good, Tom, because.

575
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:39,519
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ta to you this way, Tom. I think

576
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:41,920
I said this on your radio at one time. Uh

577
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:46,239
back at back at mine advice. Okay. Uh. They was

578
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,480
chasing a bunch of drug lords and it led them

579
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:51,760
to New York City and they somehow got a meeting

580
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,199
with this guy in this big tall building like a

581
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:59,039
Trump Tower, and this old guy, uh he said, and

582
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,519
I never forgot it. And this is from about nineteen

583
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:05,199
eighty four, and uh he he was holding his glass

584
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,079
of water, talking about how clean water was a commodity

585
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:10,920
and and uh Crockett got in patient. He says, you're

586
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,559
going somewhere with this old cow. And uh he said

587
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,880
when America sneezes. The world gets a cold. And I

588
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,079
never forgot that because I think that makes Tom. You

589
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:27,199
know when you when our economy sneezes, we all get

590
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,960
a cold and some some get it worse. They get

591
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,159
the flu, you see. And uh, that's how tied up

592
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:38,960
we are to prices. And Uh, I don't know what

593
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,719
government's will is. I really don't. All I know is

594
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,239
a regulation. Even in my industry in construction, Tom, when

595
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,280
I used to make countertops and stuff like that, Uh,

596
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:53,679
I'd walk away with a five gallon pail of compacts

597
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,800
and that. And every time i'd go, I'd have to

598
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,159
walk out with a twenty page datas sheet tell me

599
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:04,000
of the dangers of the of the prodigal just picked up.

600
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: Oh, my.

601
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 4: Regulation is there, and I we I think we can

602
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,000
do it safety because I use that word wonk again.

603
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,719
All in there walks up and all in their buildings

604
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,000
in d C. They're just looking for something to do,

605
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,719
and they're just riding regulations. That's so unreasonable. You know,

606
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,920
I can't even buy a true primer, true if I

607
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,320
like pat cars and stuff. And I hadn't done it

608
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,719
for a number of years. I went in to buy

609
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,320
some primer. And he just looked at me and I said,

610
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,360
I need a quarter lacker primer. He said, buddy, we

611
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,360
quit making that stuff fifteen years ago. I said, why

612
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:44,599
the government regulation. Yeah, so you true primer, but you

613
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,039
can't get it. It's like we got all this water

614
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:50,599
born stuff and all that and this, and then it's

615
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,800
regulation tom one last thing. Yeah, I think because I

616
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,840
got buddies paint stripes. He paints stripes on parking lots. Okay,

617
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,840
that what he does. And sometimes he do some stuff

618
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,000
from the state and you know, like on a country road.

619
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,519
And he was telling me over the last fifteen years

620
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:10,800
and I said to him, I said, you know, when

621
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,679
this striper road, I swear that doesn't seem like that

622
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,159
the stripes last as long as they used to. We said, Mark,

623
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:21,000
they don't. And I said, well, why is that? He says,

624
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,559
because the government regulated the chemicals we could use in

625
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:28,519
the paint. Uh, because they said when it's rains that

626
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,639
the rain breaks down that paint you see over time

627
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,559
and it goes into our little streams and it's killing

628
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:38,440
certain kinds of mosquitos and bugs and stuff. And so

629
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,039
now what used to last five sixty seven years. Depending

630
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,239
on the weather condition, you can get two years out

631
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,079
of but if you're lucky because of government. So tho's

632
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:51,679
just two little things that the government gets their claws

633
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,159
in on that. So that means you're gonna be paying

634
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:57,119
more taxes because you gotta pay somebody to come out

635
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,320
and stripe it every two years instead of every five

636
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,800
or six. So it only makes sense.

637
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:07,199
Speaker 1: The guy who i'm is the best deregulator. He did

638
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,039
a lot of that in his first term as Donald Trump.

639
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:13,440
And that's the area that I really want him to

640
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:19,159
focus on, is UH deregulation to help businesses, to help

641
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,719
people get jobs, to get prices down. I mean that

642
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,960
I think is is where the focus should be. And

643
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:30,920
I hope, I hope the message gets through to the

644
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,360
White House and the people get more confident on how

645
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,360
the economy is going. But we'll see.

646
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,079
Speaker 4: Well, and I'm just add to that. I just bought

647
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,800
a new driver and bought a Ge because that's no

648
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,480
I mean, that's GE's been brand And I had a

649
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:52,400
candy and I he said, so you were playing. I said, yeah,

650
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,800
Well the other one, I don't know when it's going

651
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,360
to go. He said to well, how old is it.

652
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:59,400
I said, it's twenty years old. He just laughed. He said, well,

653
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,159
you know, mister Henderson, you better be ready because this

654
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:06,440
new one's probably gonna You're probably gonna get five or

655
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,840
six years out of it if you're lucky. Oh boy,

656
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,679
new Tom, And this thing tis the cost of the

657
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:16,519
one I spent maybe maybe close three time from twenty years.

658
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:19,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, costs more, but that's that's just yeah, costs more.

659
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,119
Speaker 4: But I'm still it's still the greatest land to be in.

660
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,400
I mean, I don't I don't begrudged being in America.

661
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,559
And I love this country and and I know you do,

662
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,480
and we just got to figure out better ways. And

663
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,880
and you know, I said something about it making sense. Well,

664
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,199
not a lot of things make sense up there in

665
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,920
the small.

666
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:43,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, you make your own economy,

667
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,719
and and you're doing that. You're a hard worker. You're

668
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,559
a hard worker.

669
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: Salty.

670
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like.

671
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: I mean that that's I'm not waiting for the government.

672
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:57,280
I'm going to create my own economy.

673
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,679
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like I got to weight off my chest. Tom. Well,

674
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:02,079
thank you, and I do love you, buddy, and I'm

675
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:05,880
glad your show's doing good. And I can say this

676
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,280
because we we're close to saying, hey, I'm proud of you, buddy.

677
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,679
I'm proud of you for making this transition over to

678
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,280
a different way of doing what you did before and

679
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,320
it's been a success. So I'm proud of you.

680
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, Salty, Thank you, and say hello to missus

681
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:30,519
Salty for us into Delmont and the whole family. Yeah,

682
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:34,119
all right, Salty, thank you for taking the time to

683
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,159
be with us today. I'm glad to hear you're doing well.

684
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:46,599
Love you too. Take care. So there's a lot to

685
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,039
unpack when you talk to Salty, But I mean that

686
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:55,719
is he's the voice of America. He is the voice

687
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:01,639
of so many people in this country's entertaining. But he's

688
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,800
got the thoughts that a lot of people have. And

689
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:09,039
it's always nice to cut through from interviewing some big

690
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,599
politicians somewhere, I'd rather interview Salty.

691
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: So listen.

692
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: So today we don't have market clothes because I'm recording

693
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,800
this early. But again we'll watch the House trying to

694
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000
make some drama out of it by saying there may

695
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:31,719
be some problems with the House passing the continuing Resolution.

696
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,480
I don't think so. I think they'll get this thing done,

697
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,079
and then we'll put that to bed. So thank you

698
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:44,760
for coming by. I appreciate you stopping by early today,

699
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,079
and we will be back tomorrow and we'll hope to

700
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:48,639
see you then