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Gasey Bundy, Dahmer, The Nightstalker BTK Every 48 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:30.080 week another fascinating author talking about the most shocking and 49 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.400 infamous killers in true crime history. True Murder with your 50 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.639 host journalist and author Dan Zufanski. 51 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:52.360 Good Evening, A day celebrating the beauty of God's handiwork 52 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:56.319 turns into a father's worst nightmare as the sun sets 53 00:02:56.400 --> 00:03:01.159 on his only son, Jared Adadero, lost in the Colorado Mountains. 54 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:04.960 A highly publicized search breaks into a national story as 55 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:09.800 reports surface concerning Jared's whereabouts? Did jareded fall prey to 56 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:13.599 a territorial mountain lion? Was he a victim of the elements? 57 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:18.159 Did someone take Jared off the mountain? Is Jared alive? 58 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.120 Or did he become the victim of a notorious serial killer. 59 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:25.080 The second edition includes new theories and thoughts provided by 60 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:29.520 experts in the field of criminal investigation. Missing When the 61 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:33.719 sun Sets, The Jared Adadero story is the personal account 62 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:37.599 of a father's painful search to discover the truth. The 63 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:40.360 book that we're featuring this evening is Missing When the 64 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:45.840 Sun Sets with my special guest journalist and author Alan Adadero. 65 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:48.159 Welcome to the program, and thank you very much for 66 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:51.960 a Greenness interview. Alan Adadero, Thank you, Anna. 67 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.639 I really appreciate being here. It's a pleasure. 68 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:58.120 Thank you very much. This is a little bit of 69 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.840 a departure, quite a bit of a departure for this program. However, 70 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:08.520 the audience will appreciate this very incredible perspective on this 71 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:15.520 most incredible tale. So let's go back to October nineteen 72 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:21.759 ninety nine. You have a three year old son. Explain 73 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:26.560 your family situation and you're living in Colorado. Explain your 74 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:32.600 family situation before we get into the details of this story. 75 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:36.720 We we're talking about nineteen ninety nine, So tell us 76 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:40.000 about your background and where you were in life, and 77 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:46.759 before we talk about the Christian singles and the retreat 78 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.439 and also the hike itself. 79 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.879 Not a problem. I'm back in nineteen ninety nine. My 80 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.560 twin brother and I both owned a resort together up 81 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:59.160 in the Pudu Canyon called the Pudu Canyon Resort or 82 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.480 the Puduh River Resort, i should say, And it was 83 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.560 something that we use for our family. It was a 84 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:07.199 resort that we use for a lot of different retreats, 85 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:11.040 and the weekend where Jared actually disappeared, there was a 86 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.959 retreat going on at the resort and we went up 87 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.279 with the mountains just to enjoy it, and before you 88 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:22.480 know it, my son was missing. And that's where the 89 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:23.040 story began. 90 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:28.680 Now, as I mentioned, you had a six year old Well, 91 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:32.240 as I mentioned, we'd like to get the background just beforehand, 92 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:35.439 because we'll be introducing characters that are obviously very very 93 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.040 important the story. You have a six year old daughter 94 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:43.160 named Jocelyn, and so tell us about You have a 95 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:47.560 her mother is Angie or and and your boy's mother's 96 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:50.279 Angie as well, So tell us a little bit about 97 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:55.160 that background and about your daughter. And again you have 98 00:05:55.240 --> 00:06:00.879 a twin brother named Marlon, and explain also this this 99 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:04.480 faith that obviously is going to be instrumental in helping 100 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:08.199 you cope with this in any way, So tell us 101 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.120 about that fellowship as well. 102 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:14.279 Sure. Well, we originally my brother and I purchased the 103 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.600 Pooda River Resort and we came to Colorado. I brought 104 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:20.079 both of my kids over here, Jocelyn and Jared both 105 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:24.199 and their mom and I had just separated, so we 106 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:28.000 wanted a new start. It was one of those things 107 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:31.399 to where it was something just to kind of to 108 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.040 move on in life. And it was a neat place 109 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:37.639 to be because we had this resort and we wanted 110 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:40.800 to let people know that they could utilize it and 111 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.120 they could have peace up there. For instance, like the 112 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.920 Christian Singles Network, they came up to use the resort. 113 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:51.399 We actually at one time even built across and we 114 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:52.959 let the cross and we set it on the mountain 115 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:55.160 right there in front of our resort. Because we wanted 116 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.519 people to know that if they came to that area 117 00:06:57.519 --> 00:06:59.360 and if they were having any problems, they could stop 118 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:01.920 there and we would be more than willing to help them. 119 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.759 For instance, we would have people run out of gas 120 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:07.959 or break down, and we always offered a cabin free 121 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:09.480 for the night because we just didn't want to take 122 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:13.120 advantage of people who were experiencing a bad situation in 123 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:15.879 their life. So it was nice because I have my 124 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:19.319 kids there. I've worked there during the day at night, 125 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:22.360 and I was a lucky father because I got to 126 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:25.519 spend every moment with my kids while I was actually working. 127 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:27.720 And what happened is I had left California. My brother 128 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:29.839 and I were both teachers there so this was a 129 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:31.720 new experience for me, but it was one of the 130 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:35.199 neatest things, being able to come to Colorado and enjoy 131 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.399 God's beauty and be with my kids at the same time. 132 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:43.959 Now, tell us a little bit about Colorado, because not 133 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:48.519 everyone had knows much about Colorado and also doesn't know 134 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:52.279 much about sort of the phenomena of a hiking and 135 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:57.560 how much people really enjoy that and partake in that. 136 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:00.519 So tell us a little bit about your interest in 137 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.560 that as well, and tell us a little bit before 138 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:08.439 we start about this mountain that you would partake and 139 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:11.399 do hiking upon. 140 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:14.480 Sure, if you come to Colorado and you go up 141 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:18.399 a highway forty there's the Powdha Canyon and it's it's 142 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:21.879 one of the best looking canyons in the entire country, 143 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:25.319 much less Colorado, but it has a river running through it, 144 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:29.920 and our resort was built right on the river. We 145 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.639 had one hundred yards of riverfront property. We had people 146 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:35.960 camping up there with several cabins and the works. But 147 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:39.320 you could come to Colorado and the beauty is incredible. 148 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:41.919 No matter where you go in the mountains, there are 149 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.519 trails you can hike up there. The recreational activities and 150 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:50.519 opportunities are immense, and people actually traveled to the Pudha 151 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.000 River throughout the world. We had visitors staying at our 152 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.799 resort from all over the place, and it was just 153 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.039 a place people would go to appreciate that the beauty 154 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:02.320 of the mountains have to offer and it was just 155 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.399 an excellent place to get to and just relax. 156 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:09.840 Now, tell us a little bit about three year old Jared, 157 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.679 what was really his character at that time, and tell 158 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:17.519 us a little bit about you talk about the sadly 159 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:21.080 watching The last thing that you did together was watching Godzilla, 160 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.440 and you had made plans about watching another movie. We'll 161 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.799 talk about that a little bit later, but tell us 162 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.840 about what was this three year old Jared's real character. 163 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:37.879 Like, Jared was one of the neatest kids you can 164 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:39.600 ever meet. As a matter of fact, people used to 165 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:44.080 come up to me and say, who's Alan and the 166 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:47.080 responsibility You know, he's the father of little Jared, because 167 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.759 people knew Jared before they knew me. And Jared had 168 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:55.200 just an incredible personality, always smiling, always having fun. He 169 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:59.360 enjoyed life. He enjoyed every moment of his life, like 170 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:03.759 to suck his he saw things that I didn't see, like, 171 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:06.399 for instance, you're talking about them that very last night 172 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:09.600 that I was with Jared. We actually we want to 173 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.399 put the resort we're living down in the Denver area, 174 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:14.360 and we went to the resort to spend the weekend 175 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:18.240 there and we put a little bit of football, some 176 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.639 catch back and forth, having fun, and then I slowly 177 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:24.600 fell asleep, but Jared woke me up because we were watching, 178 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:26.799 or he was watching at the time, the movie Godzilla. 179 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:30.519 And it was funny because I'll tell this part of 180 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.919 the story. It was funny because Jared looked at me 181 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:35.679 and said, Daddy, you got to watch this part. You 182 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:37.960 have to watch. And I'm like, Jared, why don't need 183 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:40.240 to watch this? He says, Daddy, just watch. And as 184 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:44.480 god Zilla ran through the city, he turned and went 185 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:48.399 down one street and as he turned, Jared said to me, Daddy, 186 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:50.919 you can see as we wei and I just started laughing. 187 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:53.159 I'm like, Jared, I can't believe he just said that 188 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:55.240 to me. But that's the way Jared was. He was 189 00:10:55.320 --> 00:11:01.320 so innocent, so full of joy, happy, can instantly had 190 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.840 a smile on his face. And he was a type 191 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:08.919 of kid that he gave more love than he ever received. 192 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:16.559 So it's just been incredible or indifficult being without him. 193 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:19.919 Now. I know this will be difficult, but you have 194 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.440 done this quite a few times, and you've done it eloquently. 195 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:28.679 In print, we talked about the last movie that you 196 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:32.440 watched with him, So tell us about the last events 197 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.480 before they went on this hike. Explain that morning and 198 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:39.519 how it came to be that you weren't with them, 199 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:44.000 which would be customary, and why and how Jared was involved, 200 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:47.480 and who was involved in the hike itself. How did 201 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:50.200 it all come into play. 202 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:55.240 Well, we went to bed that night and Jared was 203 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:57.440 sleeping on the floor next to me. I was laying 204 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:00.440 on a couch that night, and it's about it was 205 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.840 kind of weird because about four o'clock in the morning 206 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.559 I could fill a presence staring at me and I 207 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.519 didn't know what it was. And I slowly opened my 208 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.919 eyes and Jared was standing there in the nude and 209 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.639 I looked at him, and he looked at me and 210 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:18.279 he said, Daddy, he said, he said, I wet my 211 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:24.480 pants and he never done that before, and I thought 212 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:26.679 that was kind of a strange behavior for him. But 213 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:30.080 what I did was. I actually picked him up and 214 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:31.919 put him under the blanket with me and snuggled him 215 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:34.039 and warmed him up, and just kind of held on 216 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:36.799 to him, not knowing that that was the last chance 217 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:38.200 I was going to have to hold onto my son. 218 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.320 We got up that morning and I just put some 219 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.639 simple things on him. I put some sweatpants on him 220 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.399 and a T shirt, and he put his tennis shoes on. 221 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:48.440 He he didn't like to wear socks. He just liked 222 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:51.200 to wear shoes. Didn't like to tie his shoes. But 223 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.200 later on that morning, we were actually at the resort 224 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:58.440 because this organization had come up. They wanted to help 225 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:00.759 us prepare the resort for the winter. They were going 226 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.720 to do some cleaning and stuff. Well, while they were 227 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:06.279 doing that that morning, a group of the individuals that 228 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.279 were it was called the Christian Singles. It was a 229 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:14.360 Christian singles group out of the Denver area, and they 230 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:15.799 a couple of them wanted to go on a hike. 231 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:18.799 And I was thinking, originally why they want to go 232 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.159 on a hike. I thought they were coming up here 233 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:22.559 to try to help get things situated. But at the 234 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.320 same time I didn't want to stop them from going 235 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.360 on a hike. And as they were preparing to go 236 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:27.600 on a hike, they were actually going to go on 237 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:30.559 a hike to a trout farm which was about a 238 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:34.120 mile away from us, and my daughter had come up 239 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:36.440 to me, Jocelyn and said, Daddy, he said, all right, 240 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:38.440 if I go look at the fish and I'm like, well, 241 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:40.840 you know, sure. You know a lot of these people 242 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.320 are my friends. So I gave permission for her to go, 243 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:47.240 not knowing that Jared was going to be, you know, 244 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.159 ten seconds behind her saying, Dad, I want to go 245 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.360 to the trout farm too. More or less, he came 246 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:54.720 up asking, and I'm like, there's no way in the world, Jared, 247 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:57.840 I'm letting you go to this fish farm. It's only 248 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.320 a mile away, but you're staying with me. But I 249 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:02.360 was reassured that, hey, you know what, it's going to 250 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:03.679 be safe. We're just going to take him over there. 251 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:08.360 We're just going to walk around the lake and by 252 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:10.519 this little fish farm and we'll be back. And that's 253 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:15.360 what I thought, and they took off on their own, 254 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.279 sixteen adults. I stayed back at the resort. I was 255 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:22.000 still doing some cleaning and stuff, sat down actually to 256 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:25.039 take a nap about I'm going to guess it may 257 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:28.799 have been a little bit after one. And while I 258 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:32.399 was just closed my eyes and just started to fall asleep, 259 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.399 somebody walked into our store, because we had a store 260 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.000 that was attached to our apartment, and there was a 261 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.799 lot of commotion in the store, just you know, people 262 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.360 just very animated, and I didn't know what was going on. 263 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.320 And finally they came into the back room and there 264 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.440 were two ladies standing there with a friend of mine 265 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.679 named Butch, who was our store manager. And I just 266 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.480 asked him know what's wrong? And they looked at me 267 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:59.000 and they said, he's okay, we just can't find him. 268 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:00.799 And I'm like, what do you mean he's what are 269 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.879 you guys talking about? He's okay, we just can't find him, Jared, 270 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:06.960 He's okay, we just can't find him. Something happened to him. 271 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:09.600 And I'm like, what do you mean something happened? I mean, 272 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:12.159 originally I'm thinking, he's okay, what do you do fall? 273 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:15.399 Did he you know, break his arm? Did he you know, 274 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:17.759 turn an ankle or something like that. But when they 275 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:19.720 said he's okay, we just can't find him, I'm like, 276 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.480 oh my gosh, what are you talking about? He's okay, 277 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.679 you just can't find him. And not only can you 278 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:27.480 not find him, how do you know he's okay? And 279 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:30.879 so from that moment on, of course, my entire body 280 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:34.440 just started shaking. And again I'm thinking, they're a mile 281 00:15:34.519 --> 00:15:37.480 up the road, and you know, let's get in our 282 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:39.799 cars and let's drive up the road here and let's 283 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:46.159 find him. And I soon found out that after that hike, 284 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:49.080 there were several of the adults. They were not happy 285 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:51.840 with what they had just accomplished, and they wanted to 286 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:55.320 go find another trail. So they got together and they 287 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:59.679 drove another I believe it was like sixteen seventeen miles 288 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:02.039 up the up the mountain to a place called the 289 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:05.159 Big South Trail. And when I found out that they 290 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:09.960 had taken Jared elsewhere, I was totally confused. And so 291 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:13.279 we proceeded to drive up the trail and I followed 292 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:17.720 these people, and it was just a crazy drive because 293 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:21.279 I drove extremely fast. I yelled and screamed in my car. 294 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:24.159 I pounded my chest. I felt like someone had stuck 295 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:28.480 the knife in my chest, because you know, I never 296 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:30.320 want to live a day without my son. And I 297 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:35.000 drove up to that trail, knowing at the time that 298 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:36.919 I would find my son and I would bring my 299 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:38.879 son home with me, But at the same time I 300 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:42.879 was experiencing the most the deepest pain I'd ever experienced 301 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:46.120 in my life. 302 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:50.639 Now we've just skipped over a really crucial person in 303 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.639 this story, or at least a very important one, and 304 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:59.200 that's Janet. Because Jarrett and your daughter already had a 305 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.519 relationship with jam as you did, So please explain the 306 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:04.880 relationship with Janet. And so we just backtracked this a 307 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:05.960 little bit too. No problem. 308 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.680 When when the kids then asked to go up patrol, 309 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:14.640 they had asked me, and Janet was the one who 310 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:17.799 took them. Janet came up to me and said, no problem, 311 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:20.160 I have no problem taking Jocelyn with me. And then 312 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:23.359 when Jared asked too, Janet think, you know, not a problem. 313 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:25.240 You know he's going to be safe. So Janet was 314 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:28.880 the actual person that he entrusted my kids too to 315 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:29.599 go up patrol with. 316 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:35.920 Now, when you've already talked about that, you heard the story. 317 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:38.599 Now your son's missing, you don't know anything. You get 318 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:41.440 in the car and you're a mad dash and you 319 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:48.240 know a combination of incredible emotions, conflicting emotions. What did 320 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:51.200 Janet say when you finally spoke to her about what 321 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:55.640 had happened, because you must have asked, what happened Janet? 322 00:17:55.680 --> 00:18:00.559 What where? Did? How did Jared get lost? 323 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:03.960 Well, the interesting thing is is when I got to 324 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:09.640 the trailhead, I wanted to I had originally back before 325 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:14.200 I left for the trailhead, my buddy Butch said he 326 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.880 was going to call the sheriff and and maybe see 327 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:18.160 if they could if we could get some help in 328 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.839 the Sheriff's department. And I had originally told him, no, 329 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:23.519 that's all right, you don't need to do that. You know, 330 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.440 I'll find my son. So when I got to the trailhead, 331 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.359 there were several cars in the parking lot and there 332 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:33.079 was a some people coming down the trail And the 333 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:35.759 first thing I asked was you know they were telling me, 334 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:38.000 of course Jared was missing. But my big concern now 335 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:41.599 was where's my daughter? And I'd actually asked them, you know, 336 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:43.680 where's Joson? Do you guys know where my daughter is? 337 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:45.440 I want, I want, I want to hold my daughter 338 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:50.160 right now. And they had told me that Janet had 339 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:54.759 taken Jocelyn back to the resort, and so when I 340 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:57.519 originally got on that trail head, she wasn't there, and 341 00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.160 so I was I was kind of frustrated how she 342 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:02.079 got aways, you know, from us, without me even knowing 343 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:04.720 what was going on. But when she finally showed up, 344 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:09.640 she the Sheriff's department had brought her back up to 345 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:12.400 the trailhead and when she saw me, she came up 346 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:15.480 to me. She was running, I mean, she was crying, 347 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.480 and she reached out her arms and we both gave 348 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:20.839 each other a hug, and she's saying I'm sorry, and 349 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:23.160 I was telling her, you know, don't worry about it. 350 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:25.039 You know, we're going to find him. I tried to 351 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:28.359 keep my mind in a positive frame and I constantly 352 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:29.720 told her, you know, we're going to find it. We're 353 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:31.759 gonna be all right, We're going to find him. And 354 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:35.960 not long after that, the sheriff, one of the deputies 355 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:37.960 had taken her and put her into another car to 356 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.759 interview her to find out what she knew about Jared. 357 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:43.720 But it was just one of those things where she 358 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:48.200 was extremely sorry. I had found out later on a 359 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:50.839 couple of weeks later, somebody was talking to me and 360 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:53.240 they were talking about different things that happened on the mountain, 361 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:57.079 and they told me one story something about, well, you 362 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.720 know what we heard, she fell sleep on the trail 363 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:02.279 and she had the kids and they both lay down 364 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:05.039 on a rock and they fell asleep next to her. 365 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:07.480 And it was the first time I'd heard that story, 366 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:10.680 because there's so many different stories going on, but I'd 367 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:12.279 asked my daughter. Right after that, I hung up the 368 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:14.039 phone and I asked Josh. I said, hey, jos and 369 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.119 I said, do you know anything about you know, Janet 370 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:20.480 falling asleep and on a rock? And she said, yes, Daddy, 371 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:23.319 She said, we went to sleep on a rock and 372 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:26.359 when we woke up, Jared wasn't there. And so that 373 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:28.680 was the first thing, or the first time I had 374 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:32.000 heard about that situation. Even though this story that was 375 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:35.640 out there was being told that this group of sixteen 376 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:40.319 adults was going back and forth and down the trail 377 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:43.720 and Jared got lost in between him. I think it 378 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:45.559 was I'm sorry, I think it was eleven adults and 379 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.559 Jared got lost in between the first group and the 380 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:51.279 last group, and then next thing you know, he passed 381 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:53.480 the upper group and then nobody saw him again. 382 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:56.920 Right, And you didn't find that out right away either 383 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.200 because the original story was for quite a while, was 384 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.599 that there was a group following another group. He left 385 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:08.640 that second group went a head to the first group, 386 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:13.480 and because the first group didn't know about that, Jarrett 387 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:15.559 was coming towards him. He got lost in between those 388 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.720 two groups. You found out later that the story was 389 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.079 that he had surpassed the front group and someone had 390 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:25.319 said maybe somebody should watch that kid, but no one 391 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:32.400 did exactly that story, no exactly, So go ahead. I 392 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.319 wasn't say, yeah, he was running in between the two groups, 393 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:37.079 and that's where I originally thought maybe something happened. But again, 394 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:39.920 like you said, he had actually got past that first group, 395 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:42.799 and they were actually saying to each other, you know, 396 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:46.559 someone needs to watch more closely, And even though they 397 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:50.599 were verbalizing that, nobody watched him, and he continued to 398 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:56.000 walk past that first group. The last teup I should say, 399 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:59.200 Now there was a bunch of witnesses Kim, Anthony, Nancy, 400 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:04.240 the Bruce, Margaret, Sandra. Now there were some people that 401 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:08.319