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Speaker 4: A couple of questions I have posed today.
Speaker 3: Does Brigham Young University have a wide receiver one? Do
they do they have a wide receiver one? I think
this is a bit of a controversial conversation for some
because you're gonna have to pick a favorite. I want
to delve into it. Does by you have a wide.
Speaker 4: Receiver one or do they have to go out and
get somebody.
Speaker 3: I think we as we evaluate these prospects in the portal,
and we looked at what BYU has done in the
past under fetishuitake Uh and uh in there that wide
receivering group and the offensive group.
Speaker 4: You know, you've had some.
Speaker 3: You've had some attrition, You've had many great additions via
the portal. Obviously, Pouka Nakua Brandon Gurney's favorite all time
BYU football player.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the case, but he's one
of them other than Ben Crittle. Well yeah, other than
other than Ben Crittle, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like that is a fantastic acquisition. I think Samson mc
mccoop was a fantastic acquisition. I think Keelan Mary was
a fantastic acquisition. I think Darius Lassiter was a fantastic acquisition.
Now you know, Unfortunately Puka didn't get to meet his
potential because he seems like he was injured all the
freaking tom We just couldn't keep him healthy, keep him strong,
keep him nourished, and strengthened if you will. But we've
done well in the portal. The question is do we
have to go out and get more? Do we gotta
get more? Kurt Signetti is a production over potential type
of coach.
Speaker 4: Is there enough?
Speaker 3: Is there someone out there that has production that you
could bring in to b YU and BAU would be
their best offer. You went out and got Tiger Bachmeyer.
That was a nice acquisition and he's a good role play.
I don't know if he's is a wide receiver one.
Kyler Casper, big body, athletic. The clay is beautiful, you know,
chef's kiss, but he has.
Speaker 4: Not produced, so it begs the question.
Speaker 3: We have Cody Hagen, The clay is good, he's played some,
but has he produced?
Speaker 4: Parker Kingston we know the guy. He's a dude. He
can win. Is he a wide receiver one?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: Is Josiah Phillips a wide receiver one?
Speaker 1: He is?
Speaker 3: Reggie Friscinet a wide receiver one? Delve into it, chime
in on it. We're gonna put it out there here
on your Utah ESPN radio network. Also, who's your favorite
acquisition thus far via the portal? And why I know
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Speaker 4: Ur Tason Mill. Let's welcome in Ronald the three man Weaver.
What's up, Ronning, what's up?
Speaker 1: Ben? I'm doing doing well. Let me turn like a
little bit so everybody, can you hear me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: They go, I know you guys like the girth the rightfully,
so I get it, and trust me, I hear it all.
But we are in a new day of age. We are,
and I'm gonna have Brett put this out there. But
we have passed. You know, It's it's.
Speaker 6: No longer about the offensive line. Then, it's no longer about.
Speaker 5: The wide receiver room. It's the culture. It's BYU being
in the big twelve. You got the number one linebacker
out of the trans Report.
Speaker 6: That doesn't happen at BYU.
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
Speaker 5: It shapes the entire stage. I think of the culture
and the future of BAU athletics. That does not have
You don't get a guy like that. You don't beat
out the Alabamas. You don't beat out the Georgia's, you
don't beat out the old Missus, the Lsus, Delane Kiffins,
you know, getting Sam Levitt.
Speaker 6: You don't beat out Michigan. You don't beat out the
Penn States. And that happened.
Speaker 5: That guy from cal could have gone anywhere he wanted to,
and you took the number one linebacker into trans reportal
and you added him to the defense.
Speaker 6: Everybody thought the sky was falling with j Hill.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 5: Everybody, Oh, okay, it's not Kalouda, it's not this. And
you promote Kelly Popinga. And then now after that, look
at all the guys that have come in. Look at
the linebacker room. Everybody, Oh, Max Alfred's leaving. That's a
bad thing with the Michigan. And then you get a
guy that's better than Max. You get a guy that
I believe not only can play at the next level
the way he gets after the quarterback. This is not hyperbole.
This kid was all freshman defensive player, all a big team.
What is an acc first team. I believe kid Uluave
can be exactly what Jack Kelly is and better for
this byu defense in this base three four. That's how
I am how high I am on this kid because
you don't do that normally.
Speaker 6: This guy goes elsewhere.
Speaker 5: And for the fact that he's going to be a
BA heater, he signed, sealed, delivered, I am super excited.
The only thing I'm disappointed is that Evan Johnson is
not going to give him number zero, so we'll have
to wear a different jersey number on the defensive side
of the ball.
Speaker 6: But whatever that number is, Cougar Nation.
Speaker 5: Should get to know who that kid is super fast
because I believe that kid is going to be all
big to a player and has a future in the NFL.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 3: That's Ronald's opening segment and he says, it's not about
any individual player. We're not excited about any individual player.
We're not going to prioritize any individual player. But it's
about the culture and in that culture can bring in
the individual player that we're talking about. That we may
be most excited about. Let's welcome into the show. Brett
always bring the hammer, Hammertime show. What's up Hammertime?
Speaker 7: I would love to get some insight from the insiders.
I don't know if you guys read this or how
much you're reading into it, but there was reports from
some of the Michigan message boards and websites that part
of the reason, not the whole reason Kate Ulave didn't
go to Michigan, was part of the reason is apparently
it's really hard to get juniors to transfer in. There's
something with the credits over there at Michigan, and that's
part of the reason that Cad didn't go to Michigan.
And if that's the case, it makes me wonder if
there's something on the bone there with.
Speaker 1: Smith Snowden as well.
Speaker 7: I don't know all the details of that, but I
found that interesting coming out of the Michigan camp about
that note about Michigan.
Speaker 3: Can I address I think I think is actually graduating
from Utah though, Okay, to.
Speaker 4: Me, that's what Let's welcome in the g man Brendan say.
Speaker 1: That's what message board fanboy apologists say when they wif
out on a guy it's nothing except a technicality. Because
you're Michigan, you get who you want. If you lose
a guy to b YU, it's because oh, well we
didn't want to make or a qualmy. Come on, Michigan's
getting that kid in if they want him, That's what
I think. And if he wants to go to Michigan,
he's going to Michigan. They will figure that out. I
don't buy that for one second. Sorry, I want to.
I'm on that Twitter machine a lot, as you will know,
and and I've been kind of breaking down the b
WAU defense and Kelly Poppingkins says something, Oh, we're gonna
go thirty front, and what do fans do?
Speaker 3: No, that by is gonna be a thirty front. Yes,
apparently not like we were.
Speaker 4: We were seventy thirty front this year.
Speaker 1: Yes, I understand this, And to those fans, because thirty
front automatically means drop eight. Not aggressive. You're rushing three
guys four to three. You're rushing four guys. Seriously, that
that's the whether as subconscious or not, that's what you think.
This is what you're going to have. You're going to
have nucy telmoy peyo. Watch the pop Tarts Bowl. Watch
what he was doing, how he was utilized. He will
be Jack Kelly. He will be as good as Jack Kelly.
I really believe that he can do everything Jack Kelly did,
and Jack Kelly what was He was kind of a hybrid,
you know, a guy that could play edge, set that
edge really well dropping, He could do a lot of things.
That's exactly what Nucy Talmoy Payo was gonna be. He's
gonna be outstanding. So when you think everything's multiple in
this day and age in football and that three fourth
you play and then you play to your strengths, what's
b way you strength? What's it going to be from
now until the end of time? We talked about off
the air, You're not gonna get that wild bunch of
d tackles that are going to rotate six steep the
conrect havoc. It's just not realistic at b YU It's not.
Speaker 4: What LOOKSPN of time. The g man in the two
thousands thought it.
Speaker 1: Was possible, but I was talked out out of Yeah,
but once upon a time you were, yes, that's true.
What the way you gads or linebackers d N types
you play to your strengths? You play to your roster strengths.
These coaches they can adjust. They understand defense. Jay Hill
play the three four defense, guys, kind of a three
three five's that was j Hills defense. So when you're
saying you don't want that, you're saying you don't want
Jay Hills defense. Heresy, Everyone looks.
Speaker 4: It was a different defense of it. It was a
different it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was a conglomerate of of Kyle Whittingham, Gary Anderson,
Jay Hill, Kalani pretty good.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was an aggurate sum of all those individuals.
Speaker 1: And those are very accomplished individuals.
Speaker 4: They're all very, very.
Speaker 1: Very accomplished individuals. So what I'm saying you have to
be stoked about this Beway defense and the defensive tackles.
My goodness, you got Newtnavasa back. Body's schoon over. Who's
gonna be really good next year? I'm telling you and
Ans Purcell, wait until that dude gets the club off
his hand. That's the guy no one's thinking about as
an easy Purcell, that kid is very very good when
he plays. I don't know if Justin Kirklan is going
to be back. We'll see. He needs to get healthy.
He was not able to perform this past year. If
he's if coaches aren't competent, that he can rise above that.
And I think he cut him loose because he didn't
provide what you needed at the defensive time. He just didn't. Yeah,
and it was probably a health thing whatever, But just
with those three basically, and then you had John Tom Mooypail. Dude,
that's yeah, I like that. Make Oosta you like that
a lot. Hunter Klegg's gonna be a lot better. He's
gonna be really good. He played a lot last year.
He's gonna be fantastic. Yep, b Yu is stacked, be
absolutely stacked. Logan the two is gonna be a tough replacement.
He was really really good for the team last year.
Jack Kelly maybe I'm under I mean Jack Kelly's obviously phenomenal.
He's fantastic. But that's how high I am on Neucy
to Morypail, I really think he can give you what
Jack Kelly did last year. I think the kid's phenomenal.
I think his versatility, how he comes off blocks. Just
watch the Pop Tarts Bowl. This dude is good. He is.
He can provide the play that Jack Kelly gave you.
I absolutely we believe that about He's a.
Speaker 4: Larger, more in charger.
Speaker 3: Troy Polamalo, that's what he reminds me of, just running
around man, the hair flowing.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's at the back.
Speaker 1: I hope they never make him cut his hair.
Speaker 4: They shouldn't, Like, we need to be from this.
Speaker 1: Hole, please do not. Then then here's a missing component.
Bryant Struler. He was gonna start. He was gonna start
at middle backer. He beat out the Las who was
pretty good, right.
Speaker 3: And you know, technically he may have beaten out Harrison
Taggert too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know me, Harrison ended up at col.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be back east Kafusie, that's the guy.
Speaker 4: By the way, would you take Harrison tagger back?
Speaker 1: No, you don't need him.
Speaker 4: You don't need him.
Speaker 1: You got you got him. You don't need him, Are
you kidding? Kato? And he might be the best one
of a bull of them? He probably is pedigree. No,
Isaiah Glaster, a fully healthy Isaiah Glaster to me, is
still the best guy, right, Still the guy get over
the ink. That's saying something when you have to and
uh and uh and Lucy telmoy Peyo but but Mike,
and then you have Afusie can play. He can get
it done, and he's gonna be better. That is as
stacked a linebacker group as I can ever remember that
too deep, my goodness, that is your strength. If you're
not playing a three four base defense and employing four linebackers,
what are you doing? I mean, Kelly is way ahead
of me, right I saying, oh, we don't need a detail.
Why you need to know? He knows he's he's ten
steps ahead ahead of yours. Truly, I'll tall that loss.
Then Tanner walls the other big loss. I think culture wise,
that's where he's gonna be significant. But he was really
good on the field too, having that back end presence,
everything he brought. That's gonna be a tough replacement. But man,
two guys, dude, this defense is primed. It is absolutely primed.
I think Maury Bomb. But you gotta find that third
cornerback that could be a thing. But yeah, that's just
the defense. And can I talk offensive line real quick?
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let's delve into it. Who are you most excited about
from the seven acquisitions via the portal and why?
Speaker 4: G man, what do you got for me? Well, it's
CAD's the number one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's number one. But those offensive linemen, I it's
another case of the coaches being so far ahead of
me that I feel kind of sheepish, a little sheepish. Right.
B WAU has four starting offensive lineman coming back next year.
They need a left tackle. And last week when I
was on the show, you mentioned Bob Moolytaalo fitting him.
There's your answer I was.
Speaker 4: I said, could he be the Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't say he is the answer exactly? Sorry, Yeah,
that he could.
Speaker 4: Be an answerable See, he's very talented.
Speaker 1: See. But here's the thing. I wasn't comfortable with that,
and that's no disrespect to Bob Moolytalo. Is he talented
enough to start as e left? Absolutely, he can come
in a battle. But that's the point. You want him
to battle. What do you have when you're a big program,
when you have a four star guy in.
Speaker 4: A that's just a spot.
Speaker 1: No, you want him to battle you, you want the
four It creates competition and nothing's given right. We've seen
a time and again with players they come in, they're
just giving us pot, no real competition, so they don't
max out right, So you love it for that reason.
Two of the three guys can't play tackle. They're probably
gonna there's probably gonna be a pre man battle for
left tackle. Andrew Jentry's public gonna stay it right, and
then you'll have Sia and uh not the kid from
Stanford Final battling with Bot Mooley Talel for left tackle.
That's fantastic, that's absolutely what you want. Plus, these guys
are multiple, they can play inside. It's a great, great thing.
And when you look at b Wayu's depth, Yes they
have four starters returning, but guess what, all those guys
they're gonna be seniors next year, they're all gone. You
have got to build depth and When I look at
Bway's offensive line, you signed some really good parts that
are coming up. They're all missions, right, you need a bridge.
That's what these guys are providing. And they're all decorated,
really solid guys that they can just be a Sonny Macasini,
Kyle Shaffar Choke, that's gonna be fantastic. Rostin leus was man,
how good did he turn out? My goodness? All these
guys had much more pub about them credentials coming in
than either Sonny macasin and Kyle support Choke or Austin Leouson.
They're more decorated, they went to bigger schools. Are they
gonna be as good as those guys? I think that's
the bar. And if they can just be those guys, yeah,
because those guys were fantastic last year. The way his
interior line play was really really good, really good. It's
gonna be tough to replaced Way when Lappa wah, that
guy is a beast, He's he's fantastic. But yeah, they
got those parts. Are you kidding me? Offensive line is
where bee Way you needs to It needs to define
b Wayu's program. I want to see a roster full
of fifteen guys that look like Andrew Gentry. They look
like a thirty five year old lumberjack. Right, that's what
I want. That's why you want me waiting. Well, he's
too old. It's unfair. Yeah, you're right, it is unfair. Sorry, Yeah,
we got twenty six, twenty seven year old lumberjacks that
have been growing facial hair since the sixth grade. What
are you gonna do about it? I guarantee Andrew you know,
like guy junior high that that first grew that facial hair.
Oh yeah, that was Andrew Gentry. Think so, I guarantee you.
Andrew Gentry was rock rocking a goatee.
Speaker 3: And I always felt it was like my Sandian friends
or like, uh like Eastern like my Persian friends. They
always like, well, I grew up in are Italian like
Tony Bachellia. Like he had like a beard like in
like sixth grade, you know, yeah, Andrew Andrew and Dazzio.
I'm like he had like a beard like but he
never grew after eighth grade. But he was bench pressing
like one thirty five and eighth ver We're like, ah, man, Andrews,
he's gonna be a He's gonna be a stud Andrew
and Dazzio. Yeah, yeah, Ja'far Jafar. I remember Ja'far like
he was eighth grade. He was the tallest, he's the biggest.
You know, we hit puberty like when he was in
fifth grade and then we just all passed them up.
Speaker 4: Those are the guys. Yeah, but yeah, I get what
you say. Sorry, but Andrew, I shout out to all
my my friends from elementary in high school.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Andrew Gentry probably did have a beard when
he was at least.
Speaker 4: In ninth grade.
Speaker 1: Definitely, Yeah, definitely he was an early bloomer, Yes he was. Anyway,
that's my vision for Bway football and it's coming about.
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting you say this? So I made
this statement last week.
Speaker 3: I said, look like basketball NCWA basketball has always been
about like recruiting and then.
Speaker 4: Getting old and stangol. You want to make a run.
Speaker 3: It's not always the one and done teams that are
making the runs. Does that make sense to make it
into a national championship game? The transfer portal is making
it even more so, like where it's like you don't
really get old and stale that you you're like you're
you're splicing and cutting and adding and subtracting to try
to get the old, get old, stay old type of deal.
But I think at BYU, and you look at Indiana too,
how they've done it.
Speaker 4: That's an old excuse, an old ass team.
Speaker 3: They've played a lot of football, not only together because
a lot of these guys came up from JMU, but
a lot of these guys have been playing a ton
of football, and they're bought into the Kirk Signetty way,
and they got old, they staled, And BYU's doing something
very similar to that without a highly touted roster, highly
ranked roster. BYU's roster was ranked seventieth and talent and
Indiana's was seventy second. It was actually worse than talent
than BYU's And both those teams are top top ten teams,
and Indiana maybe the national champion this year.
Speaker 1: I've actually been thinking about this all week. If you're
a BWAYU fan, you have to be excited by what
you're seeing from Indiana. It makes no sense. Why Indiana
is what is doing what it's doing, no sense. It
doesn't make sense. Yeah, how is Indiana right there? And guys,
I'm telling you, Indiana is going to beat Miami bad
boat range. That team is as far as national championship
teams go. Indiana is so far removed from what you
usually see. It is extraordinary what they've been able to
do that. And if you can do that at Indiana,
you can do that at b what you? Why not?
Why not? And Ronnie brought out the culture. I'm glad
he did. That's the number one thing. Be what you
has going for it right now? And who's the culture
guy at BAYU. It's Clonie Satake. So don't give me
your exis and o's which Klonie is very good at.
The culture he's established and that permeates through his coaching staff,
his players. That's what you need to me. That's the
number one thing for a head coach, beyond anything else.
You need a culture where people can succeed, flourish, feel welcome.
And that's exactly what Klonie Satake is and that's why
he deserves every single penny that he was allotted through
that contract negotiation. It begins and ends with Kloney Satake.
So I just want to point that out people. Oh,
Jay Hill and all that. Yeah, Jal's phenomenal, He's fantastic,
it's a tough loss, Klaoniae Sataki. As long as you
have that guy, people want to be here and that
has been proven through this transfer portal where b Way
You has exceeded. Come on, is there anybody out there
that is displeased with how this transfer portal has gone
for Bway You right now? Is there anyone out there that, yeah,
this is what I expected, maybe a little bit more now,
b Way You has killed it. The retention alone. B
Way You just retained all the guys, it would be
a success. But you had three prime offensive linemen that
could start tight end that could fit in right for
Carson Rydings, which sounds crazy to say because Carson Ryan
was phenomenal last year. Yeah, plus the number one middle
backer in the transfer portal. And it's not over. There's
still my be some other guys. Yeah, it's phenomenal work.
And to me, it begins and ends with Koloni Satake.
People love the culture that he's established. They love him,
they want to play for him. He exudes what b
WAU football should be about and and that's what's working
for Bayu. And so everyone wants to credit a lot
of things. You know, of course, money is a big thing.
I don't know why fence gy away from that. It's
fantastic that b way you can pay well.
Speaker 3: The reason why they do it because they have to
have conversations with their youth friends at work. And the
youth friends are saying, you're buying people's faith, You're you're you're.
Speaker 4: Buying anything in this world with money.
Speaker 3: That's what they say. That's what they that. Those are
the conversations that they're having. So they feel very uncomfortable.
We have we have a love hate relationship with filthy lucre.
Let's be honest. Within our culture. Yes, it is what
it is, and and so that's why they struggle with it.
Speaker 1: But none of this works unless you have that found
nation established. Where not and I'll say this is that
money coming in without Colonia Sataki's coach. The people donating
this money believe in the product, They believe in that
culture that has been established by Colon Sataki. Anyway, I
just want to give a Colonia Sataki as just due
because I don't I still think he is still underappreciated
by fans. I really do so do not underappreciate this guy.
He's doing phenomenal work. He is exactly what the way.
Speaker 4: He needs to say, head coach, Well, this is what
I'll say about it, Okay.
Speaker 3: If I was to summarize it and highlight his greatest
core competency, I believe And if you listen to K
Pop says Kelly knows what was said and how it
was said from a Bronco man in all standpoint, if
you go back and just look at the quotes of
what Bronco was trying to do, he talked a lot
about ambassadoria, like the ambassadors of the of the university
were the football players, right? They are the flag bears
is what he called them. We are the flag bears.
We had like a mantra. I'll have to find it
for you, guys, but we had a mantra that we
that that essentially we had to recite along with the
fight song about being the ambassadors and the flag bears
of the university. Football players, we're kind of the face
of the front porch. We're the welcoming party right as
we go out and serve and basketball players do and
the athletics in general. Does it make sense? But what
Bronco was trying to do was align the silos. What
are the silos. Well, it's the board of Trustees, it's cees,
it's academia BYU, it's the honor Code, it's the moral ethical,
theological people, the kingdom builders of BYU that don't really
like sport, but they kind of do.
Speaker 4: But they don't.
Speaker 3: Only if it's good, only if it's only if it's righteous,
only if Does that mean that's what Bronco was trying
to do. I don't think he did it.
Speaker 4: I did. I think it was really hard to align
the silos, even though the messaging, Well, it's kind.
Speaker 1: Of unfair because he didn't have the resources and the
opportunities that Colonna has.
Speaker 3: I agree with that, right, there is a new found
but Kloni went through independence as well. We have not
seen an alignment. Remember, BoA's athletic department eats what it kills.
It's not like the university is subsidizing it. And even
the board of trustees they are not gonna The only
thing the Board of Trustees can do is what maybe
build more buildings that the athletic department can rent from,
or upgrade buildings that the bo athletic department can rent from.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: The IPF is not owned by the Athletic Department and
Nor's Lavelle Edward STATEI you got to rent that. Now
you have first dibbs, but you got to rent that.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: So like there's only so much they can do.
Speaker 3: You need the institution itself also at the behest of
the Board of Trustees to help a the alignment. You
need a president, you need a VP of Advancement. Everyone
needs to aligne But the individual that does probably the
best job in his messaging and impacting the individual to
be converted to.
Speaker 4: The alignment of the silos is Kalani.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the format what he's saying is similar and very
much the same as what Bronco did, but the way
that Kilani communicates it is more impactful individually for all
of us so that we're all aligned, like, oh no,
we want to get together.
Speaker 4: We want athletics to be good.
Speaker 1: Strength.
Speaker 3: That's that's his strength, and that's why you need Kilani
as the figurehead. And that's why you know when when
when it came down to it, the Board of Trustees says,
we will not let him walk because we're inspired by him.
We want him, we need him, we need him as
the ambassador. We need him as the face of BYU Athletics,
and in many even Shane re said it, or yeah,
so Keith vour.
Speaker 4: Kink said it. I think.
Speaker 3: For Shane Reeese at the at the at the press
conference with Kilani and Bryan Santiago, he said, in many ways,
Kilani is the face of BYU. Yeah, he's the thirteenth
the Apostle, guys like Lavelle was to a degree, I mean,
no one's the thirteenth Apostle. Levell is the three. I
don't want any sacrilegs. I don't want any heresy. I
don't want any heresy. Lavelle wasn't the thirteenth the positive.
But Kilan's right there too. He has spoken at a
at a devotional I'm saying as I'm just saying. So
that's his strength, and that's why BYU in many ways
is training in the right direction. But it's also the
fact that by using a power for conference now and
you do have some TV money and you can be
a little bit more and the and the donor the
other thing that you that we don't talk enough about
is the free market, capitalistic society that we're living in
college with all the college football landscape allows donors. Now
corporate sponsorships to W nine players say we want you
to represent YU. It's not necessarily BYU as an institution
that's paying them. It's these corporate entities that have always
been told over the last fifty years, don't cheat.
Speaker 4: We got to abide by.
Speaker 3: The sponsoring institution and the NCUBA, and so what did
we do.
Speaker 4: There was no glad handing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The best we got, maybe maybe we got was like
a free meal every now and again. But even then
it was like look down upon. And that's why we weren't.
That's why we weren't one of the initial like I mean,
we were to a degree, but like as far as
pioneering ail in college football, we weren't like the one
the first to engage in collectives and pay for play
type of deals.
Speaker 4: We did a built bar deal which paid the walk Ons.
Speaker 3: Right, well, walk Ons, everybody gets a dollar, right do
you remember that? Oh yeah, so you got to take
it all in and you know, together. But I just
find it interesting that that now, to your point, it's
like BYU is in a really good position because of
all of these things. The pie chart of accountability, the
pie chart of credibility here you know.
Speaker 4: It's it's multifaceted.
Speaker 3: Man, It's truly remarkable about where b W he's at
from an athletic standpoint right now.
Speaker 1: It's really exciting and b way he's going to present
I don't probably the best roster it ever has next year,
I mean nineteen ninety six. I what I'm seeing aligning, Wow,
this roster's tremendous. It is really really for me.
Speaker 4: What does that mean? Though?
Speaker 3: Like best roster ever? I want you to I'm gonna
come back to you on that. Okay, what does that mean?
Is it most.
Speaker 4: NFL players produced? You know, most draft picks produced in
the season? You know what I mean? That's or is
it something else?
Speaker 3: Because Indiana they have the best football team in college football?
Speaker 4: Do they have the most talented football team in college football? No,
they don't.
Speaker 3: How many of those guys are gonna be drafted? Even
Texas Tech like they had they had a group of
really good football players minus one position, right, But how
many of those guys are getting drafted the NFL and
what they're looking for is different than what's college football
teams are getting at and what they're what they're looking for.
And it gets back to my get old, stay old
kind of adage and buy into scheme, buy into culture,
buy into all that.
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sometimes you if you've been around. He's got a full,
just luscious beard. He's got strong browage too, very strong browage,
and uh just a beautiful man. He's my wooly mammoth
right now, today and forever. Brandon Ce Gurney, Uh.
Speaker 4: Brett always bringing the hammer hammertime show, also in the house,
and Ronald the three men.
Speaker 3: We were behind the glass. It's a great day to
be on the show. It's a great day to have
you by my side.
Speaker 1: Gim Man. It's great to be here. Yes, a little
more uncomfortable than it was five minutes ago.
Speaker 3: But I'm actually touching Gurney's leg right now too, my
wooly mammoth girth and all.
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Speaker 3: Wow did he even have did he have to look
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We're we got some musicality in the Criddle home, you
know what I mean. We got my father percussionist.
Speaker 4: Uh and uh, it's I know him. Yeah, Bishop Crittle
for for Ronald.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Actually Bishop Critle introduced Ronald and I and we became
friends that way and now business partners and professionals contemporaries together.
But yeah, we would be especially on long drives, you know,
when we'd head out to California for the Crittle vacation. Uh,
head out to the beach and go to seat, go
to No, actually we did. We didn't do that all
that out there. That was very expensive, but I mean
it wasn't as expensive in the nineties and eighties. It
was a suburban like the Yeah, like the V eight
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Speaker 1: Bro, that's it.
Speaker 3: But that thing was a tank, super safe, Like we
didn't need we didn't need seat belts and that bad
boy who knows if we ever wore seat belts in
that thing. We didn't need no freaking seat but not
on our not on our trips there.
Speaker 1: With the gurdy with the wooden sided station. We had
one of those you have pictures, yeah, and like in
the back you're facing the other way so you see
all the cars behind you. I loved it. Yeah, my favorite.
That was my favorite place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, favorite thing to do is to sit on top
of all the luggage and sleep on top of the
luggage in the very back. That was the place to be, Yeah,
because if you went under the seats sometimes in a
suburban or another like and you and you kind of
you had your arms, your arms would fall asleep and
then you have to like wiggle out like a little
earthworm and your arms were asleep.
Speaker 4: That was really tough.
Speaker 3: That was kind of like you get if you're afraid
of being claustrophobic, be under under seats of like a
suburban or a van and have your arms completely fallen asleep.
Speaker 4: It's not a not a good feeling.
Speaker 1: We didn't have iPads, no iPad, we didn't have head phones.
We were playing the alphabet game. We're playing the license
play game. That's what we had to do that.
Speaker 3: Hey yeah, ye ice spy, Yeah, a little ice spy action.
Speaker 4: Yes, would you do it? Like the twenty questions as well?
Speaker 1: We did. We do whatever we could to pass the times.
Right then you try to read and then you get
the carsick?
Speaker 3: And anyway, would your would your dad force you to
pee at a pickle jar?
Speaker 4: No? Oh well you didn't really whoa yeah, oh yeah, wow,
we're not stopping. I peed in a bottle, but I
don't think I repeed in the pickle wait stopping. You
gotta pee in the pickle jar.
Speaker 1: Dang, that's hardcore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got seven boys, and you know everyone's got
to go pee at different times p in the pickle jar.
Speaker 1: That's why you guys need the suburban.
Speaker 4: You had seven Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he kids.
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Speaker 3: Why is it that BYU will have its best roster
in history this next year?
Speaker 4: Brandia Sigourney because.
Speaker 1: There's no holes. You look at the roster. Usually there's like, oh,
I'm worried about that position. Yeah, that position is not
looking strong. Not really. I think most people would probably
look at receiver with the most question marks. He still
get Parker Kingston. Are you kidding me? Parker Kingston's really good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I still believe in Cody Hagen. I think he's gonna
show some things. And I really like what I saw
from Jojo Phillips and the Pop Darts Bowl. Yeah, that
showed me what he can be. If he can be
a reliable guy that catches it with his hands, his
upside's phenomenal, it really is. But the one guy I
really want to focus on the receiver position is Reggie Frishnet.
He was the talk of the preseason. He was the
first word out all Man that this dude yep, because
you want a replacement for Chase Roberts, which might be
too difficult, little bit task because Terrace Roberts was so
tremendous with what he brought for b Way.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, you need that big body guy.
Maybe Jojo can be that guy. Reggie fish Net can
be that guy. Had the hamstring injury. What do we
know about soft tissue injuries? Not good, Especially when you're
competing for spot and you're trying to get ready for
fall camp and you haven't had an established body of work,
you don't have that opportunity. That's what happened with Reggie Fishneck.
That's why when he went in, it's like, oh yeah,
he's just out there. They're not gonna look for him.
Can't run reps with Bear. You know, the timetable just
wasn't right. He was a lot like Reiner Swanson in
that regard. Reiner wasn't able to progress to the point
where he probably could have, just because he had to
sit out all a fall camp. That's a really big
thing if you're an incoming player, and it's complicated when
you have a brand new quarterback. You can't just bring
that guy in So what I'm saying is, take everything
you heard about Reggie Freshneck prior hamstring poll. Yeah, that
might be a guy. That might be the guy opposite
Parbarker Kingston. It would not surprise me. But again, b way,
you as options. It's not like, oh wow, who are
they gonna get? No, they have talent. Josiah Phillips, Reggie Fishnet,
Cody Hagen, there you go. And I don't even mentioned
Tiger Bockmeyer. I think could still be pretty good, Tina Coola.
They have some guys and we're talking about what might be.
I don't want to say it's the weakest position on
the team, but it's the one with the most question marks. Seriously,
what other position that has more question marks? In that position? Back?
Speaker 4: Well, I would say, like right now, running back is
a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need more depth. Yeah, I get. I really
like what I saw from Joe Besa de Mooney. I
think he can be a guy, and I think Debandi
Eka can be a guy. And what I'm saying is
it's gonna be better already than it was last season,
just by virtue of those two guys joining the program.
I do believe that.
Speaker 4: Depth that corner is still an issue.
Speaker 1: You need a third corner. You need a guy to
step up, that's for sure. Mariy Bomba. He was pretty
good last year. Yeah, he was a little inconsistent. He
wasn't perfect, everyone knows what, but he largely did a
pretty good job. Those were your three corners, So yeah,
you need another corner. I think Jonathan Cabeya came back
from that injury really had a tough time. I still
think he's got the talent to be a guy. But yeah,
I think the way he could definitely get a cornerback
out of the portal. That's one thing you would like
to see a receiver and a cornerback. And yeah, had
a backup running back. That's it. I don't see any.
Speaker 3: Are you still Are you feeling good about the tackle
position you have?
Speaker 4: Andrew Gentry at right tackle?
Speaker 1: I am now.
Speaker 4: And then Junior.
Speaker 3: Sea is most like he played right tackle for Utah
Stai p Pockey Fino Pocky, but I like but like
Pockey's played mostly guard.
Speaker 4: He's is he a tackle?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Wait six five? So you like that? I don't know.
We'll see. And then Bob Mollie Tollo bot mm hmmm.
I think Ostler's gonna have his say. Okay, I think
you have.
Speaker 3: Any guys coming home, any other guys coming home from missions?
Remember you have Andrew Williams, Kayden Chittister as well as
Ethan Thomason, all six'. Eight you, know, monsters the monsters
of The, midway As Barnie ball likes to. Call do
you know Who Barney ball, Is Portland state's head coach.
Speaker 4: That called freaking centaur Here bachmeier the Centaur Barnie.
Speaker 3: Ball, Anyway so the tackle position is, talented not necessarily completely,
vetted tried and.
Speaker 1: True but but if you just talking about filing in one, guy,
yeah left tackles the most critical position on that offensive.
Front but if you have four guys that are operating
and and left tackle just with THE i, mean he's
gonna be right. Beside it's gonna Be Kyle safarchoke right
Or sonny because it's gonna be one of those two
guys that gives you a lot of. Comfort he's gonna
be out, there, hey, hey just do. This you have
the athletic that you can do it. Right my money
would still be On bob Moviely. TALLOW i think he's that.
TALENTED i think he could be that guy because he's
definitely a tackle type THAT i love that he's gonna
have to compete for, it that he's. Not Oh i'm
the four star. Recruit, okay they. Don't all, right you're
left tackle boom. Go, no he's gonna have to. Compete
he and you want that if You're bob Mouely talo
and if you're a serious. Program that's what four star
recruits have to. Do they have to come in and legitimately. Compete,
well they're not just so much. Separate it's, like, oh
well he's so. GOOD i Don't, no we don't get
guys like. That, no be what he does have guys
like that? Now and so, YEAH i, Sorry I'm I'm i'm.
Relieved would those three trance considering their, credentials their body,
Types i'm. Done B way's fine as good ways good
to go on that old. Line props to T. J
woods for rehabilitating that very poorest position group under the previous.
Coach and he's done it in a short time and
and he's done tremendous. Works so T.
Speaker 3: J woods, is, uh who's the most? Underrated let me
ask you, this who's the most underrated.
Speaker 1: Coach on This. Woods, yeah it very well could be T. J.
WOODS i THINK i think it Was Gennaro, guildford but now,
yeah T. J.
Speaker 4: Woods now it's, uh now IT'S.
Speaker 3: Tj, yeah now IT'S. Tj TJ's taking THE i think
the baton From.
Speaker 4: Gennaro gennaro is going To michigan but doesn't take any
corners with.
Speaker 1: Him, Well michigan's got good.
Speaker 4: Corners. Yeah is that more of a?
Speaker 3: Uh is that more of the like reality kind of
setting in That michigan just has any guy that they
want unlimited resources and that they're gonna find guys better
than what B yu.
Speaker 1: HAD i, mean with all due respect to Be way's
current croping, cornerbacks WHO i think are very. GOOD i
haven't looked At michigan's. ROSTER i haven't studied, it BUT
i suspect they have some very good. Quarterbacks and that SAYS.
I i really did Believe Evan johnson was. GONE i
thought the Second genaro would leaf that That evan would follow.
Him but B, way you retain. Him it's. Fantastic so,
yeah get another cornerback smith Snow. Man when smith snowed
it just slot.
Speaker 2: In.
Speaker 4: YEAH i MEAN i was told most Likely smiths notes
s heading To.
Speaker 1: Michigan, yeah that's that's the. Word, yep most likely heading To.
Michigan it seems like we won't be. Way he's almost
Had smith snod and for FOR i don't, know six
seven years, now, right it seems like it's got pad
for like a. Decade, oh he's gonna get. All they
didn't get. Him, oh very, well didn't get. Him doesn't
seem like it's going on. Forever, yeah, anyway it has
been going on. Forever it's been going on for a.
Speaker 4: While.
Speaker 3: Uh the the key acquisitions via the portal thus far
are three offensive. Lineman Zach, yamouchi a offensive line From,
stanford played mostly. Guard you Have Junior sea offensive tackle
From Utah, State pockey fenw offensive guard with the ability
to maybe move out to tackle From.
Speaker 4: Washington.
Speaker 3: Uh and then you Have Walker LIONS usc tight, End
Kyler casper wide receiver From. Oregon Jake Clifton Kansas state linebacking.
Transfer if there was one position you didn't think you
needed more, of, Linebackers Kate uluave maybe the bell of
the ball for all of the, transfers as he's a
four star ninety three rating.
Speaker 1: Right now downgraded him to three star after he?
Speaker 4: Transfer oh is that what rivals? Did?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah only if you transferred to The big ten
OR sec do you get the do you get to
maintain that that?
Speaker 4: Star? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah outgoing you Have Pok, Junga Max, Alfred TAVIAN beasleysi
Only Hangano, Soni Tuala Tucker keller Or Iconasio, Tupo Lemason,
waller the third McKay hill's, Dead marcus, Mackenzie Jake griffin
And Dominique.
Speaker 4: Mackenzie which one do you love the? Most which one
hurts you the? Most g, MAN.
Speaker 1: I Think marcus well for me personally As Poke.
Speaker 3: Jonga, okay so the guy that that hurts you the
most Is pok.
Speaker 1: Personally, uh just BECAUSE i think he's tremendous.
Speaker 4: Sat out this, Year, yeah and now he'll be playing.
Speaker 1: ELSEWHERE I i didn't anticipate that he'd be. Back you
want him to get back in any regard BECAUSE i
think he's a real. TALENT i think he's. SPECIAL i
think he's. Extraordinary marcus, MACKENZIE i think that's the guy
you would have liked to. Retain it's not, catastrophic he's
not a guy that. MAN i can't even remember any
reps he got at cornerback other than mop.
Speaker 3: Up he got, some but he got. BEAT i remember
he he got beat over the. Top SO i don't
know if Any bayu fans remember it.
Speaker 1: Because he's and then my single favorite. GET i, mean
it's so Obvious uluabbe is and that sounds insane when
you have a guy Like Walker lyons coming, in but
Ula abbi is just.
Speaker 3: That, yeah considering you're a tight end, guy you, Know,
yah there's not anyone that loves twelve personnel more Than.
Speaker 4: Gurney i've watched philm you know he loves twelve.
Speaker 1: PERSONS i.
Speaker 3: Do sometimes he gets confused with twenty one, personnel but
it's actually twelve personnel that he.
Speaker 1: Loves not one of my finer moments on the. Program
not a football. Guy, sorry it's twelve.
Speaker 4: Personnel by the, Way my poll of the, day.
Speaker 3: Polling the fan, base film, knowledge AND i see see you.
Here gurney did boa football last? Year play more thirty
or forty front don't give it. Away it's currently at
forty five.
Speaker 4: Point it's fifty to. Fifty it's.
Speaker 3: Trending there's only forty Eight. Bow we need will you retweet?
It we need more eyes on this. THING i Need,
BRETT i Need.
Speaker 4: Ronald everyone retweet that because we want as many we
want as many data points as. Possible, WELL i don't
want you to give the. ANSWER i THINK i gave.
Speaker 3: Not everyone's tuning in every second of the, show so,
no you, know just hold your tongue, there hold your. Toss, sorry,
okay slow your role to you man chime in on
that as, well.
Speaker 4: Though uh, Yeah, look things are going well FOR.
Speaker 3: BYU i think via the, portal it's looking, good it's feeling.
Good H how many other acquisitions will there?
Speaker 1: Be last?
Speaker 4: YEAR i want to say.
Speaker 3: That you KNOW byu was much more judicious with their
transfer portal acquisitions last, year, right B yu did not
take on a ton of players last, year but they
had some really key, Acquisitions there's no doubt about. IT
i think there was thirteen, total so we're already getting.
There Red we're at. Seven will they eclipse thirteen last?
Year Tiger, Bachmeyer Justin, Kirkland Tavian, Beasley Alvin. PUIFULA i
don't know if we did we ever get to See alvin?
Speaker 4: Play did? HE i don't even know if he, arrived played.
Speaker 3: Anyway Bear, bachmeyer kean Neaed, Keavasa Max, Alford, Carson Ryan, Anissi,
purcell Tal Celia Kna Andrew gentry And kyle Sufer. Jos
all of them played played pretty significant. Roles who did
you Lose, Carson, Sue, Sue Josh. Sing it would have
been nice to have Just, Sing Uh, Simone, Davis, Harrison,
Taggart Keeland. Marion would have been nice to have those
two as, Well Porter, Small CoA, Eldridge Weston, Jones Nason,
Coleman Landon, Rico Nathan, Hoak Cale, Breslin Kate, Fennigan carson two,
J Jake, Eichhorn David, Latu Noah, lugo Down Llan, Johnson Ice,
Moa Kruakeley, Dalt Adulton, Riggs Dallan, Hevea Cody, Epps Michaeh,
Harper Jackson, Bowers Miles, davis And Chione moa linebacker twenty
seven outgoing thirteen acquisitions last, year, wow maybe twelve so
far this year, right you've had seven acquisitions and twelve.
Speaker 1: Attritions that's, progress that's progress within the, program that's reaching
a high having to make big moves and because you
made those big. Moves you don't have to make his
main moves moving. Forward that's what that. Is it seemed
like b way you had to bring in guys to
immediately to dress. Needs it doesn't feel that way this.
YEAR i got Like ulu. Uluaba that's that's. Gravy it's
not all we gotta get a middle. Backer, no, wow he's.
Available he's coming. In that's. Fantastic you know it's Not
Sally serru's. Fine he played a good middle backer last,
year right? Yep Bringing caid to, compete maybe go with
that four linebacker. Group and everyone thinks they hate but they.
Don't you guys don't hate. It everyone's SAYING i hate
The you don't hate. It, YEAH i know you don't
hate it because you're the same guy that's been Praising
Jay hill that freaked out when he went To. Michigan
that's What Jay hill. Ran i'm giving away the pole,
question all? RIGHT i sorry you sent him a. Gun.
Speaker 4: Sorry side.
Speaker 3: Note Michael, harper FORMER byu, safety has entered the. Portal
apparently he's got another year Of. VELGEIBILA i don't know.
HOW i don't know how because he played twenty. TWENTY
i guess he red shirted in twenty twenty. THREE i,
SEE i thought he played four seasons. Already he may
be able to get that twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 4: Back.
Speaker 3: Anyways for The Montana, grizzlies he had forty four, tackles
twenty two, solo twenty two, assistant seven passes, defended TWO
i and t's if.
Speaker 1: He has his form, back, yeah you Take Michael.
Speaker 4: Harper he's, Back he's back on hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Healthy he was tremendous when he came. In he could
he could absolutely have his Bottlef you would take him,
Back oh for. Sure if he's back to his, form
that's a no. Brainer, yeah he's in no brandle, Per Pete.
Nakos do you take? Him you, know pick him up.
Now i'm a Big Mike harper.
Speaker 3: Guy you already have it. Strong who do you have
a strong? Safety and Remember Crew wakeley's in the portal.
Too would you rather Have Crew wakely Or Michael Hall Mike?
Speaker 1: Harper, Really Michael, Harper Mike, Harper, SORRY i know at
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