1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference, 2 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:13,439 the podcast for All Sportsdiscussion dot com. This is Jeff, 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,320 one of your podcast co hosts, and you can follow 4 00:00:16,359 --> 00:00:20,559 me on X at talking a c C Sports. That's 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,320 at T A l K I N A c C 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,719 S p O R T S. The podcast moderator is 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,799 Matthew and you can follow him at All Sports d 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,960 A c C. That's at A L L S P 9 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:44,119 O r T S D A c C. I'm gonna 10 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:46,960 turn it over to Matthew now as he gets started 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,880 with our guest, and Matthew, we're still waiting for our 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,880 guests to arrive. 13 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:53,799 Speaker 2: I'm thinking that our guests, I'm thinking that you might 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,640 have thought that it was Matt Zemick that was typing 15 00:00:56,679 --> 00:00:59,039 in to not me when I said, Matthew here is ready. 16 00:00:59,039 --> 00:00:59,759 That's what I'm thinking. 17 00:00:59,759 --> 00:01:01,679 Speaker 3: We're what the. 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, Jeff, right, that's probably these perhaps 19 00:01:05,359 --> 00:01:07,319 the case. I don't know, but you know, because we 20 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:10,359 got to Matthews here, so perhaps you can follow up 21 00:01:10,879 --> 00:01:14,000 with him, follow up with him on a D M here. 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,760 But that's uh, that's probably probably probably probably you got 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,760 too mad. He's here, as they say, right, Hey, this 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,640 is Matthew. As Jeff said, you can follow me on 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,680 Twitter at at all Sports DACS. Again, that's at All 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,400 Sports d a c C. And that is the Twitter 27 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:35,439 account for Allsportsdiscussion dot Com. And honestly, I spend all 28 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:37,599 of my time on that Twitter account. 29 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:40,519 Speaker 3: Now I don't spend any time. I can't even get into. 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,879 Speaker 2: My personal Twitter account, any x account anymore. I guess 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,079 I'll say that because basically it's locked out and I'm 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,480 not sure that I'll ever get it back, and it's 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,079 seems it seems extremely hard for it to come back, 34 00:01:55,439 --> 00:01:57,799 for it to come back, for it to come back. 35 00:01:57,799 --> 00:02:02,719 But again, this is the longest running independent ACC podcast 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,840 in the United States. This is the All Sports Discussion 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,879 ACC podcast. And for several weeks now we've had previews 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,479 of every single ACC football team. It's been fun. It's 39 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,719 just been extremely fun to have have those on there. 40 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:21,120 We've even got we've even got previews in with SMU, 41 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:24,960 with Cal with Stanford. We've just been fortunate to have 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,240 and we've been fortunate to have good, good people volunteer 43 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:33,599 with us throughout the throughout the just throughout the off season. 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,560 It's been I'm sure Jeff would agree agree with that. 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,199 It's been it's been a one wonderful we've this week 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,120 on the site, we have an we have a we 47 00:02:42,159 --> 00:02:44,639 have an all we have an Atlantic Coast Conference kind 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,800 of panel sort of thing where we're going through the 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,039 we're going through we go through the division standings, so 50 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,840 we pick out the records for each of the individual 51 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,919 teams and there's a perhaps probably a record number of eight, 52 00:02:59,039 --> 00:03:01,439 nine and ten we win teams that we think are 53 00:03:01,479 --> 00:03:03,240 going to come out of the conference that we've had 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,080 panelists with. We've had We've just had a great panel 55 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,120 and we've had it's been Jeff and I making the 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,759 picks and then we have six guest user guest pickers 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,879 on the show, and so we got through to pick 58 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,520 the standings. 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,319 Speaker 3: That's one post. 60 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: Then we have an ACC Football Open Microphone that'll be 61 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:22,879 that'll be posted tomorrow, then the next then then the 62 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:26,759 excuse me, that's the Wednesday post. My apologies. The post 63 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:33,360 for tomorrow is the ACC Football Award winners and the 64 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,520 the ACC Football Title Game participants and the ACC Title winners. 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,520 So that's tomorrow's post, sorry, And then Tuesday then is 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,280 the ACC Football Open Microphone Wednesday. Then is our bonus 67 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:50,719 pick time. It's the uh that is the ACC there, 68 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:56,439 excuse me, the Football Championship Series subdivision picks for the 69 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,639 national title game. And you know, we tend to think 70 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:01,360 the group tends to think it's gonna go through the Dakotas. 71 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:06,759 And then it looks like Matthews joining us. Matthew, welcome here. 72 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,039 Just one moment, and then then Thursday, Then is Thursday. 73 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Then is our is our comprehensive ACC football preview. And 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,439 that's when we include the That's when we include the 75 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:24,800 uh uh, Jeff's player position previews, his best winter loss records, 76 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,759 and then all the content from our panel, and that 77 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,800 becomes your comprehensive ACC Football Preview along with all of 78 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,040 the ACC football. 79 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,319 Speaker 3: Podcasts that we've done here. Sorry, that was a mouthful. 80 00:04:36,399 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: Jeff and Matt I've been talking for a few minutes 81 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:42,279 now about advertising some content on the site, and you know, 82 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:47,680 and we're ready for our final podcast guest before College 83 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,399 Football Week one starts, and we have just have a 84 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:54,480 great guest here on the show tonight. Joining us this 85 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:57,680 week is national college football blogger Matt Zemik. You can 86 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,759 follow him on Twitter at at Matt Zemeck. Again, that's 87 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:06,199 at m A t t zm e e K. Again 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,920 that's at m A T t z e m e K. 89 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:11,439 He's also a member of our team at All Sports 90 00:05:11,439 --> 00:05:14,399 Discussion dot common times you'll see him wogging about some 91 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,519 acc topics at times. And he's the editor of Trojan's Wire, 92 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,439 which is the Ganet Corporation affiliated University of Southern California 93 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,120 Trojan's athletic website. It is, of course not affiliated with 94 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,079 the institutions, so they have some They has some freedom 95 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:32,279 in terms of the content that they put on the site, 96 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:34,560 and it must align, of course with what whatever Ganet 97 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,399 Corporation looks like but wants. But again, Matt, Matt Semic 98 00:05:37,439 --> 00:05:39,600 and his career have a lot of freedom. Matt Temicks 99 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:42,759 wrote about college football since two thousand and one, and 100 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:47,079 he's just been a terrific participant, I would say terrific. 101 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:50,600 I mean really a terrific, terrific person to give us 102 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:54,040 this time at All Sports Discussion dot Com on college football. 103 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,079 So Matt, welcome backfriend. Is there anything that you would 104 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,240 like to plug a Trojan's Wire and anything about your 105 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,959 background that you'd like to tell us tell our listeners 106 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,240 before we before we start the ACC football, College football 107 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,519 and National College Football. 108 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining. It's a tradition unlike any other, 109 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,279 and uh great to be back with you on the 110 00:06:17,519 --> 00:06:19,879 the you know, the final Sunday of August, the final 111 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:24,639 Sunday before another regular season of college football. Obviously it 112 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,720 did start and you guys at doll Sports discussion at 113 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,680 a couple of ACC games to follow, but obviously you know, 114 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,879 the first full week of college football is upon us. 115 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:38,120 We made it through another eight years of off season torment, 116 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,800 and you know, as I continue to uh blog at 117 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,160 Trojans Wire, just you know, the nature of the beast is, 118 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,720 you know, you're you're I have to edit the site 119 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:51,680 for twelve months a year, not not just during football season. 120 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,800 And you know, so for eight months we're basically just speculating. 121 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,240 We're basically just throwing things against the wall. Now we 122 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:03,040 get actually get to find things out, and obviously you 123 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:05,199 guys got to find out a lot about Florida State, 124 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:08,879 Georgia Tech and SMU. It feels really really weird to 125 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,800 say that you're following SMU now and much as you'll 126 00:07:13,839 --> 00:07:17,959 be following Stanford and Cal as well. But like now 127 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,720 we get to see, you know, how is this all 128 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:22,720 going to look like, not just the new conference alignment, 129 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:26,199 but the twelve team playoff and all the new configurations 130 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,240 and the travel and and all the different forces that 131 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:34,319 are spinning around us in college football. So like it's 132 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:37,680 the same college football experience. It's that same excitement for 133 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,879 Week one, but so many things are different. And in 134 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:44,199 terms of following Trojans wire or reading Trojans wire, hey, 135 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,120 I mean in the offseason, frankly, I don't blame you 136 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,120 if you haven't read Trojans wire because again we're speculating. 137 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:54,079 But now you want to be along for the ride. 138 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:57,120 You want to be along for USC LSU coverage. You 139 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,160 want to be along for covering USC Michigan and ann Arbor, 140 00:08:00,959 --> 00:08:05,439 USC Penn State on October twelve, USC Notre Dame. At 141 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:07,079 the end of the season. You know, now's the time 142 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,920 you definitely want to be following USC because the Trojans 143 00:08:09,959 --> 00:08:12,600 are certainly a very interesting team. Whether it's going to 144 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:16,680 be for better reasons or worse reasons, we don't know. 145 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,079 And obviously we're going to be talking about all the 146 00:08:19,079 --> 00:08:23,600 teams in the ACC. Every team really is interesting. Just 147 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,439 is it going to be in a good way or 148 00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:28,560 in a bad way. That's the real drama. And we 149 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,800 already got a taste of that in Week zero in Dublin, 150 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,559 and I did. 151 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: For what it's worth, all the Trojans wire in the 152 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:39,080 offseason because I was really intrigued, and I'd like you 153 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,399 chose to talk a little bit about this before we 154 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,799 get into acc football. I was really happy that the 155 00:08:44,799 --> 00:08:46,120 Trojans hired Matt Ants. 156 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: I'm sure you were. What did you think about that? Well? 157 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:57,399 Speaker 2: I think that that was a terrific hire. I think 158 00:08:57,399 --> 00:09:02,159 it's going to improve the defense right away. He's he 159 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,759 has some clout walking in that room because he's won 160 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:10,360 national titles. He knows how to get everybody on the single, 161 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,360 you know, on the same page. 162 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,159 Speaker 3: He knows. 163 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: I think that folks at the FCS level spend a 164 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,120 little more time coaching Matt you know what I mean 165 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,840 if that makes sense, because they're trying to develop talent, 166 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,720 and I think his players are going to love that. 167 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard this, do you think 168 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,000 that Matt enz replaces PJ. Fleck at Minnesota in two 169 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:35,639 three years? 170 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: No? How does that sound. I don't think that that 171 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:47,200 will happen. Here's why I say that. For some reason, 172 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:51,600 I feel like these Big ten schools still feel like 173 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,080 they have a hangover from hiring Morton from the NBSU days. 174 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,679 If you're old enough to remember that, remember when Wisconsin 175 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:02,320 hired Morton. I feel like some of these Big ten 176 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:06,559 teams still have a hangover from hiring somebody from the 177 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,039 Bison from the triple option days, and whether that's better 178 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,159 or whether that's fair or not. So there are some 179 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:18,840 big pott pocket donors that still remember that, And I 180 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:20,840 know that's terrible of me to say. 181 00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 3: Well, it's not terrible of you to say, if that's 182 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,320 what you think is the reality, and it certainly could be. 183 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:29,480 But definitely wanted to get your thoughts on that. But yeah, 184 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,480 it's it's gonna be wild and it's going to be 185 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,159 interesting to see, you know, if Lincoln Riley can accountability 186 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:40,480 on defense, that's certainly it's a separal theme. And I 187 00:10:40,519 --> 00:10:42,559 do think matt EN's is going to be really good. 188 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:45,960 I think all of these new defensive staffords are going 189 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,320 to be good. But anyway, it's all sports discussion and 190 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,559 ready to talk some acc football if you guys, we're ready. 191 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: To talk some ACC football. How important is this year 192 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,960 for Tony Elliott. Tony Elliott Virginia and Mario Christ the 193 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,320 ball at Miami because we think these two guys they're 194 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,519 probably up there, maybe sitting up there. 195 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: On some hot seats, right. Yeah. I think that Tony 196 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,080 Elliott gets a longer lease just because of the culture 197 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,679 and the expectations at Virginia that's different from Miami. I 198 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,240 think if you're Virginia, you know, you know how hard 199 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:28,159 Tony Elliott's players played for him, so like he hasn't 200 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,120 you know, he has the locker room, he has his 201 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,039 players believing in him and his plan and his vision. 202 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:37,120 Now it might not all come together. And obviously this 203 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,759 is now a seventeen team ACC, so it's a you know, 204 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:44,240 it's a super conference in terms of size, as is 205 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:49,120 the Big Ten at eighteen, So you know, the schedule 206 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,879 might be difficult to the point that you might not 207 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,840 see the results reflected in the win loss record. I 208 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:57,720 think the main thing is just everyone in and around 209 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,960 the Virginia program needs to know that, hey, this ship 210 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:03,559 is going in the right direction. As long as that's 211 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,759 in place, I think it's fine. But you know, Elliott 212 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:09,200 looks so out of his element at the very start. 213 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:14,080 If we have that kind of identity, that kind of reality, 214 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,039 then he's in real trouble. But I think that as 215 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,399 long as there's a sense of, hey, we can build 216 00:12:19,399 --> 00:12:21,799 on this in twenty twenty five, I think he'll be fine. 217 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,080 But the hottest seat is Mario crystal Ball. I don't 218 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,600 think there's much question about it. You know, the these 219 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,960 super donors can't keep get forking over all this nil 220 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:35,679 money to recruit at such a high level, and yet 221 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,039 the product be so bad on the field. And it's 222 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,000 really interesting, you know from my perch here in the West. 223 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:47,840 You know, because Marrio crystal Ball went up against USC 224 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,120 when he was at Oregon and he, you know, he 225 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:52,799 had Clay Helton to go against. Just imagine if he 226 00:12:52,879 --> 00:12:56,039 had Lincoln Riley to go against, and and USC wasn't 227 00:12:56,039 --> 00:12:59,480 going against Dan Lanning, but it was going against Mario Cristobal. 228 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:02,320 I think you it would be in great shape, and 229 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:07,200 you wouldn't have Oregon as a favorite to play in 230 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,480 the College Football Playoff semi finals and be a top 231 00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:13,960 possibility for the championship game. I think, you know, USC 232 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,039 would be on top in terms of the West Coast 233 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,039 in terms of the West Coast schools that are going 234 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,919 to the Big Ten. I mean, crystal Ball did a 235 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,519 decent job at Oregon, but you know, when you realize 236 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,639 how Justin Herbert was able to unleash the full measure 237 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:33,120 of his skills and was actually able to throw downfield 238 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,320 with the Chargers, it became apparent just how much crystal 239 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,039 Ball limited Justin Herbert at Oregon and needed a lot 240 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,799 of turnovers from a sloppy Wisconsin team to win a 241 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:47,120 very close and frankly ugly Rose Bowl. I mean, it 242 00:13:47,159 --> 00:13:49,840 was a really good achievement for Oregon, but you know, 243 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,879 Utah blew the doors off Oregon at the PAC twelve 244 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,200 Championship game in twenty twenty one, and you know, crystal Ball, 245 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,480 with all the resources that he had again didn't do terribly, 246 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,039 but it's not as though he hit the ball out 247 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:04,559 of the park. And so at Miami the thought was, well, 248 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,240 you know, you know, Mama called and crystal Ball came home. 249 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,639 It was one of the two jobs that always made 250 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,200 sense for him to leave Eugene for, you know, Alabama 251 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:17,399 being the other. And it's obviously very interesting that Alabama. 252 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,639 The Alabama job did open up just a little bit later, 253 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,080 wonder if Crystal Ball has any second thoughts about all 254 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,720 of this. You know, he could have gone, could have 255 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,519 waited a few more years, and and Saban could have 256 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,480 opened the door for him to go to Alabama. But 257 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:33,039 instead he went to Miami, and obviously that made plenty 258 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,840 of sense for him. It's, you know, that's Miami's home, 259 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:39,039 South Florida's home for him, and certainly with all the 260 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,639 resources at his back and all the nil uh, you know, 261 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:46,679 the NL architecture that Miami has. I mean, Miami was 262 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,279 not very good last season, and yet the Hurricanes pull 263 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,519 in elite recruits like they're they're recruiting at a higher 264 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:57,159 level than USC is. And that's despite you know, not 265 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,080 doing anything in the first two seasons under Crystal Ball. Well, 266 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,480 Lincoln Riley is just a point of contrast, when eleven 267 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:05,960 and one in his first regular season, came one win 268 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:09,919 from the College Football Playoff, and yet he's struggling to 269 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:14,200 get the same kinds of recruits that the Chrystal Ball gets. Like, 270 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:18,080 Miami has a higher recruiting rating for the twenty twenty 271 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:24,159 four cycle than USC So you know, the guys at Miami, 272 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:30,679 the billion dollar boosters and the well pocketed individuals. You know, 273 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,240 they are giving Merrio Chrystobal Whole Foods level groceries. But 274 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,399 he's been cooking a seven to eleven type meal and 275 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:41,480 he he better start cooking a gourmet meal, right. Bill 276 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:45,919 Parcells always talked about the groceries and the meal, and 277 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,039 you know, the general manager got the groceries and it 278 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,080 was up to the coach to cook, to cook the meal. 279 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,000 And you know, Crystal Ball has been cooking you know, 280 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,240 stale day old hot dogs. You know that there's just 281 00:15:57,679 --> 00:16:01,279 roll around on that seven to eleven conveyor belt. But 282 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,919 he's he's being given you know, these elite recruits and resources, 283 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,559 and you know, you look at Miami's roster and wow, 284 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:11,919 you know that's a talented backfield with cam Ward and wow, 285 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:15,960 those are talented receivers and wow, you know that that 286 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,240 that that the offensive line could be really good. I 287 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,320 mean just in terms of NFL draft potential and and 288 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:25,799 you know what the scouts and the evaluators see, as 289 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:29,080 you know, quality prospects. Miami has a lot of them. 290 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,279 Miami has a lot of guys who are supposed to 291 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,679 be dudes, you know, are supposed to be really good. 292 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,519 And so if Miami just continues to muddle through and 293 00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:42,679 not get you know, anywhere particularly close to a conference 294 00:16:42,759 --> 00:16:46,320 championship to a big Bowl game, I mean, forget about 295 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,240 the playoff for the moment. Miami just has to at 296 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,120 least get into the neighborhood of nine or ten wins first. 297 00:16:51,639 --> 00:16:54,159 If Miami can't do that, if we're seeing six and six, 298 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,120 seven and five, I mean, I don't see how anyone's 299 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,480 gonna want to continue to go through the with crystal ball. 300 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,879 And you know, I know you guys are are very 301 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,720 much aware, and you know, like this is the guy 302 00:17:05,759 --> 00:17:09,079 who just you know, keeps tripping over his shoelaces and 303 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,759 doing the dumb things that he did against Georgia Tech. Right, 304 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:13,839 you know, he didn't take a knee, and then he 305 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,759 had that stumble at Oregon. Remember against Stanford several years ago, 306 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,240 didn't take a knee, Oregon fumbles, Stanford gets a late win, 307 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:24,440 and then so you know, this similar thing happened in 308 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:29,079 the Georgia Tech Miami game in his tenure. So Christaball 309 00:17:29,279 --> 00:17:31,559 just has to stop stepping on rakes. He has to 310 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:34,559 start delivering results. And if we don't see at least 311 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:38,799 something close to the vision that Miami has with all 312 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,039 the money that's being poured into football from the nil 313 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,480 side and elsewhere. He gone, he's gotta go. You have 314 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:52,480 to at least see something close to the expected Miami standard, 315 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:56,200 something that's going to reward the investment of a lot 316 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,400 of wealthy people for crystal Ball to stay. I mean, 317 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,119 he can't have another bomb out season, right, that's for sure. 318 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,240 And I would say, like he, Miami football has to 319 00:18:08,279 --> 00:18:12,319 be better than mediocre. Like everyone has to walk away 320 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,960 from this season feeling that, Okay, maybe they didn't absolutely 321 00:18:16,039 --> 00:18:19,200 max out, but they were a good team. People. Everyone 322 00:18:19,319 --> 00:18:23,440 has to walk away from twenty twenty four seeing and 323 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,839 knowing that Miami is a good team in a good position. 324 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,359 If Crystal Ball falls short of that, he gone, he's 325 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:30,960 got to go. 326 00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:35,319 Speaker 2: Well done. I could not have said that better. So 327 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,359 flip side here. There's a big year ahead, right, a lot. 328 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,519 You know, times have changed. You've got the really the 329 00:18:43,559 --> 00:18:46,920 progress of the engineering schools I call it right, Virginia 330 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,920 Tech and Georgia Tech. And you've got this, You've got 331 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,480 this Louisville with the hometown son at home that seems 332 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,039 to really be changing that program in real time. I 333 00:18:57,039 --> 00:18:58,839 want to get your thoughts on those three schools. 334 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,559 Speaker 3: Matt Well. I mean, I know that Jeff is just 335 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,559 doing cartwheels after Georgia Tech's went over Florida State, and 336 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,720 you know, let's let's talk about that briefly. That after 337 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:15,480 Florida State punches Georgia Tech in the mouth early, you're thinking, oh, okay, 338 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,160 this game is not going to be close. You know, 339 00:19:17,759 --> 00:19:21,279 we can see this is men versus boys, and Georgia 340 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,400 Tech just went, oh, okay, that's the standard we need 341 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,839 to play at. That's the level of physicality and toughness 342 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,119 we need to bring to the field. Yeah, we can 343 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,000 do that. To use the Georgia Tech slogan from that 344 00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:38,279 commercial a few years ago, you can do that. Well, 345 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,839 Georgia Tech did that and they did it very well, 346 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,079 and like they just stood up to Florida State. And 347 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,079 you know, in terms of Florida State, I didn't pick 348 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,319 Florida State to win the ACC And I know we'll 349 00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:52,279 talk about this later in the show, but just briefly, 350 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,759 you know, I can't trust dj uyang La Lay enough 351 00:19:55,799 --> 00:19:58,920 to pick Florida State to win the ACC. But that 352 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,000 point aside Florida State has a ton of really really 353 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:05,880 good players other than at quarterback. And it really was 354 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,039 a game in which Georgia Tech did have to stand 355 00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:13,119 tall in the trenches. That was the Yellowjacket's path to victory, 356 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,920 and boy did they answer the call. So what a 357 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,640 statement right out of the gate about this team's toughness 358 00:20:20,079 --> 00:20:22,240 and games that would have slipped through the cracks in 359 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:24,920 previous years. They're not slipping through the cracks now. And 360 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,119 Brent Key, you know, like, my god, he continues to 361 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,559 beat ranked acc opponents like this. This is what he does, 362 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:35,359 like he keeps doing it. So you can't call it 363 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,160 a fluke, you can't call it an aberration. This is 364 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,799 what he does. It's now a track record, it's a 365 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:44,640 consistent pattern that's carried into another year or so. Georgia 366 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,559 Tech fans, you know, should be absolutely elated about where 367 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:51,480 their program is going. And as for Virginia Tech, well, 368 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:53,359 you know, it just seems as though Brent Pry has 369 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,759 been making the right steps that he gets it that 370 00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:59,440 he's going to develop the passing game and he's going 371 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,680 to figure out the quarterback position, which you know, quarterback 372 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,640 guru Justin Fwente weirdly could not solve you know, he 373 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,880 could not figure that out. It seems as though Pride, 374 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,000 though he has a defensive background, he's getting it together 375 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:16,880 at quarterback. And if the twenty twenty four season manifests that, 376 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:19,839 you know, if Virginia Tech really does have a strong 377 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,559 passing game, you know, then all the pieces are there 378 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,720 for a successful run. So I see everything in alignment 379 00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:30,480 in Blacksburg and the Hokies definitely being in the top 380 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:33,599 third of the ACC. And of course top third now 381 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,759 means you know, top five, top six. It's in a 382 00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:41,279 smaller conference. Top third would have been you know, like 383 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,680 top four, top five, but now the ACC is larger, 384 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,000 so you know, Hokies should be definitely be there in 385 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,119 the top five, top six for for sure. I feel 386 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,599 very confident about that. And then Louisville the thing to remember, 387 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:57,799 you know, Jeff brom didn't just win ten games last year. 388 00:21:57,839 --> 00:22:02,000 He did it with Jack freaking Plumber as his quarterback. 389 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,640 And I covered Jack Plumber when he was in Berkeley 390 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,839 with the col Golden Bears. He was not very good. Now, 391 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,759 he did light up USC, but of course that was 392 00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:12,319 an Alex Grinch USC defense. So like you don't get 393 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,079 full credit for lighting up Alex Grinch. You know, if 394 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,559 you beat a terrible defense, well good for you, Like 395 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,200 everyone else does that. But against most against competent defenses. 396 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,400 In the Pac twelve when he was at Cal, Jack 397 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,279 Plummer was not very good at all. Jeff Brom takes 398 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,759 him on as kind of a reclamation project, and he 399 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:35,559 wins ten games with, you know, a decidedly average quarterback, 400 00:22:35,599 --> 00:22:38,920 like we saw Jack Plumber's limitations come to the forefront 401 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,119 in that Kentucky game. To win ten games with that 402 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,440 quarterback pretty amazing. So if Jeff Brom ever gets his 403 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:50,119 hands on a really, really good quarterback, we'll see what 404 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:56,319 Tyler Shuck can do. But when Brom eventually gets a 405 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,079 Cadillac quarterback, that's when we're really going to consider the 406 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,880 possibility that Louisville can reclaim where it was twenty years 407 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,920 ago under Bobby Patrino. You know, when you had the big, 408 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,359 the great twenty and four team under Stefan Lafor's and 409 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,839 then the two thousand and six team that that you know, 410 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,160 achieved at an extremely high level. When Brom gets an 411 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,519 elite quarterback, that's when Louisville is in a position to 412 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:29,960 really max out to be a playoff caliber program, compete 413 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,519 for the biggest prizes in college football. So Georgia Tech, 414 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:37,279 Virginia Tech, Louisville lots of reasons for optimism in all 415 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:40,240 three places, but of course at Georgia Tech you have 416 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,359 the fact that, well they've already made a huge statement 417 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,720 in twenty twenty four. We now need to wait to 418 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:49,480 see what the Hokies and the Cardinals can do. Very good, 419 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:51,839 Matt Jeff you're upred. 420 00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, Matthew, And you're right, Matt. As 421 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,200 a Georgia Tech fan, I'm pretty pumped after what happened yesterday, 422 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,160 and I'm sure we'll have more comments on that. Talk 423 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:14,200 about some of the new coaches in the ACCU. You 424 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:17,839 got Fran Brown there at Syracuse, Bill O'Brien with all 425 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,960 that experience at BC, and you know, many Diaz coming 426 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,559 back to the A C C from Duke. And then 427 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,599 I want to ask you about the changing geographic nature 428 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,920 of the ACC with Cal, Stanford and s m U, 429 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,240 and it's you know, it's just kind of the way 430 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,359 of college athletics now. I mean every conference, uh, all 431 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,519 of the other P four conferences are spread across the country, 432 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,279 you know, save the SEC who's who's managed to stay 433 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:52,440 pretty continutiguous with their states. But uh, you know they're 434 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,440 they're they're pretty spread out too. You know, you're going 435 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,720 from Oklahoma all the way to Gainesville, Florida. So there's 436 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:03,079 there's no more getting to each school and your your 437 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,400 conference with a with a bus ride. 438 00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let me tackle that first and then I'll 439 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,400 get circle back to the new coaches. I think that, 440 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,000 you know, one of the really big points of intrigue 441 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,559 of the season, of course out here at Trojans Wire. 442 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,559 You know, this is going to be a talking point 443 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:23,400 for me too. How is the long distance travel going 444 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,720 to affect teams? How fresh they are, the results? Uh, 445 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,440 you know, how how well they play over the course 446 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,279 of a season. Like when you play a game on 447 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:36,200 one coast and then you play on the other coast 448 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,480 the next week, whether it's home or away, you know, 449 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:42,079 it does. I'm not sure how much that's going to matter, 450 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,799 you know, whether your play suffers in your road game 451 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:48,160 or your home game, but just if you're zig zagging 452 00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:52,599 between h two coasts, you know, and I think that 453 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,319 the more precise point to make is, Okay, you play 454 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,279 on one coast. Then the next week you're on the 455 00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,799 other coast. So in that second week, after you've gone, 456 00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:04,640 you know, made those two cross country flights that second week, 457 00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:07,599 is there gonna be a negative effect, a negative drag 458 00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:11,920 on a team's performance. I think that's something that you know, 459 00:26:12,039 --> 00:26:14,480 we're dealing with at USC and the Big Ten. That's 460 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,839 gonna be a plot point for us. It's also going 461 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,440 to be a plot point for you know, any team 462 00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:23,200 from from the Atlantic coast, you know, the Atlanta the 463 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,279 mid Atlantic region that goes to Berkeley or Palo Alto 464 00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:31,720 or even SMU even to you know, Texas, and then 465 00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:34,400 you fly back and you make another long commute the 466 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,039 next week. You know, are we going to see consistency 467 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,240 of performance? That's that's gonna be a topic throughout college 468 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,960 football with more long distance playing flights than ever before. 469 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,519 And just to kind of add to the to this subject, 470 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,440 h that a lot of people that I talked to, 471 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,920 you know, in off season shows, podcasts, whatever, a lot 472 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,480 of people say, you know, plane flights like this is 473 00:26:57,559 --> 00:27:01,319 just a reality of modern u at athletics. Kids are 474 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,440 used to it, like they're used to flying all around 475 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,880 the country, you know, for you know, like basketball tournaments 476 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,759 and you know, various off season engagements. Whatever. I'm like, 477 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,599 I'm not convinced, Like I'm not I'm not of the 478 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,799 camp that says, oh, these kids are used to it, 479 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,599 you know. No, Like, these are not NFL athletes, these 480 00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:23,680 are not NBA athletes. These are not guys used to 481 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,640 you know, catching a plane, uh, you know for you know, 482 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,359 thousands of miles and then being able to get a 483 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,039 good night's sleep and being able to regulate their bodies 484 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:35,720 and being able to play at the expected standard like 485 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,599 they they have not been through this rodeo. And certainly 486 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,480 ACC teams are not used to flying to you know, 487 00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:46,640 the San Francisco Bay area and then back and handling 488 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,720 all of that. So I think there's a real question 489 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,240 about all of this. And I think one of the 490 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:58,279 really important things that the AC seed and really also 491 00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:01,240 the Big Ten, any conference that's dealing with these long commutes. 492 00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:03,640 I think one thing we need to see in scheduling 493 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:10,200 for the future is stacking road games and then stacking 494 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:13,160 home games back to back. So what I mean is, 495 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,799 if you're playing Stanford and cal uh in the same 496 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:21,759 season on the road, you should play those two games 497 00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,279 back to back and then you get to play two 498 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,920 or three home games consecutively instead of instead of you 499 00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:31,640 you fly to one coast, then you fly back for 500 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,240 a home game, and then you fly you're flying back 501 00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:38,880 to you know, to SMU a week later, and then 502 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,799 you're then you're flying back home, you know, to Syracuse 503 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,799 or Chestnut Hill or or you know, South Florida, Clemson, whatever. 504 00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:51,079 We need to be seeing you stay on the road 505 00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:55,039 for two weeks, you know, and playing it like you're 506 00:28:55,319 --> 00:29:01,720 the too far flung road locations consecutively and then you 507 00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:04,920 get to spend two or three weeks at home because 508 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,279 that cuts down on plane flights. It cuts down on 509 00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:10,880 the sense that you're being yanked across the country. Go 510 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,839 have a base camp on the road, and you know, 511 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,039 for the like the you know, those huge equipment trucks, 512 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,880 the guys that you know, we we've seen stories in 513 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,799 the past. Uh, these equipment trucks drive across the country, 514 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,519 you know, for their teams games. Well, we don't want 515 00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,640 these equipment trucks driving all the way to one coast 516 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,039 and then all the way back to the other. Like, 517 00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:33,480 those guys have a life, those guys have a family. 518 00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:37,920 They need to be managed in terms of their transportation costs, 519 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,240 their transportation sustainability. So I really hope that we see this. 520 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,839 Just to kind of flesh this out one little bit 521 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,680 more is that you know, USC is now in the 522 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,079 Big Ten, and USC plays at Order Dame every other year, 523 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,559 every odd year. So when USC is playing at Ordre Dame, 524 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,559 USC should have a road game at Indiana or Purdue 525 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,119 in an in an adjacent week, so that USC can 526 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,240 just stay in Indiana right there for two or three 527 00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:13,079 weeks and then USC gets to come home and play 528 00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:16,319 consecutive home games for two or three weeks because they're 529 00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:18,759 like it just it would just be really dumb for us. 530 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,160 He'd have to fly to Notre Dame in mid October, 531 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,960 then go home, and then fly to Bloomington or West 532 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,799 Lafayette two or three weeks later. Like that is really dumb. 533 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,920 But so we need to see that happen in college 534 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,160 football scheduling, and that's part of this larger discussion in 535 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,559 the ACC and it's part of the other power for conferences. 536 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:44,200 All right now, so the new coaches, let me keep 537 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,119 it simple about Syracuse. Syracuse is a mystery Syracuse. I 538 00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,279 don't think a lot of people have a really clear 539 00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:51,079 cut sense of what will happen. I think the other 540 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,400 thing that we have obviously have to mention about Syracuse 541 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,079 is Kyle McCord and you go from Ohio State, you're 542 00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,759 playing against Michigan all the for all the marbles, everything 543 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:01,839 on the line, and now you go to Syracuse where 544 00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:04,920 you just try to get playing time, try to improve yourself. 545 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,279 So that is a fascinating situation, but it's a very 546 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:11,799 mysterious situation. I think we know a lot more about 547 00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:14,720 the new coaches at Boston College and Duke with Bill O'Brien, 548 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,559 you know, formerly at Penn State, had his NFL tour 549 00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:20,559 of duty. You know, coach Deshaun Watson got to the 550 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,519 NFL playoffs. I think after the Jeff Haffley experience, seeing 551 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:30,240 Bill O'Brien go to BC, it's probably a decent fit 552 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:35,079 because BC struggled on offense, didn't have an offensive tactician 553 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:40,160 in there, and so Bill O'Brien provides that. So if 554 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,759 nothing else like BC is going in that different direction, rights, 555 00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:47,759 it's somebody with a different philosophy orientation, So that could 556 00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:49,759 be that could be good, That could work out well 557 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:52,759 for the Eagles because offense is what had generally killed 558 00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:58,200 them in recent years under Halfley. And as for Duke, 559 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,720 here's the thing, you know, we all saw Mario Diaz 560 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,079 falter at Miami. It's why crystal Ball is there now. 561 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,839 And one of the things we always talk about at 562 00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:15,200 some point during a football season is that there are 563 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,519 some men who are gifted as head coaches, like they 564 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,000 know how to do all the parts of a head 565 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,079 coach's job description. And there are some people who are 566 00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:28,440 born to be coordinators. And like, it's not a criticism 567 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,640 and it's not a point of shame or embarrassment that 568 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,680 you know, if you are a great coordinator but not 569 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,480 a good head coach. Like, if you're a great coordinator, hey, 570 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:41,680 that is a high paying job, especially at the elite schools. 571 00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:45,039 I mean, if you are an elite coordinator, like, that 572 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,079 is a significant career achievement. It leads to a lot 573 00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:51,319 of success, it opens a lot of doors, and the 574 00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:53,559 pay is really good. Like, I'd love to be a 575 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:57,559 successful coordinator. Instead, I'm just a you know, a blogger 576 00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,680 at Trojans Wire. I could you know if I was 577 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,720 a sucessful coordinator, man, I I would be living pretty 578 00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:06,359 large and I would have a I would have a 579 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,119 much fatter bank account than I do right now. So 580 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,319 being a great coordinator, there's no shame in that. But 581 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,119 some people handled head coaching well. Others are just made 582 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,000 to be coordinators. And so this tour, this stop for 583 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,880 my for Manny d As at Duke, it's gonna reveal 584 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,240 once and for all, can this guy be a good 585 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:30,920 head coach? Uh? And and it's worth remembering that before 586 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,400 he took over for Mark Rick at Miami, he had 587 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,720 very briefly taken the Temple job. And you know that 588 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:41,440 brings up the old point about wow, my Manny Diaz 589 00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,440 his tenure at Temple. We're gonna write stories about this one. 590 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,920 It's like George O'Leary at Notre Dame, and and and 591 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,440 and Bobby Kremen's at UH at South Carolina. You know 592 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,960 coaches who uh, whether in football or other sports, you know, 593 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,440 they they committed to go to a school and then 594 00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:04,400 everything fell apart, and so like they were coach of 595 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,720 a school for like forty eight hours. So many Diaz 596 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:09,920 at Temple like that was one of those forty eight 597 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,320 hour coaching tenures at a school. So you know, in retrospect, 598 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,440 it might have been really good for many Diaz to 599 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,920 spend a couple of years at Temple learned how to 600 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,920 be a head coach. It's kind of like how Lane 601 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,320 Kiffen learned how to be a head coach at Florida Atlantic. 602 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,800 Like he was not ready at Tennessee, he was not 603 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,679 ready at USC. Then he spent some time at at 604 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,440 the Sabin Academy, Alabama, and he goes to Florida Atlantic 605 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,480 and he went into the salt mines. He learned how 606 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:43,639 to do all the aspects of his job. So Many 607 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,880 Diaz never had that, and you know, two or three 608 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,599 years at Temple probably would have done him a world 609 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,280 of good. But no, he wanted the Miami job right away, 610 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,639 which was understandable. I mean, he's a Cuban, He's a 611 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,480 son of Miami. Why wouldn't you go after that job? 612 00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,360 So I don't blame him for that, but it would 613 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,960 have been good for his career development as a head 614 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,199 coach to spend a couple of years in Philadelphia at Temple, 615 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,559 lower rung program, lower expectations. You know, could have spent 616 00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:14,880 like three years learning how to do his job. Because 617 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,719 he didn't have that. He was definitely under equipped for Miami. 618 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,719 We saw that blow up in his face. So now 619 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,639 he is several years later, he circles back, gets another chance, 620 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,679 and we've seen what Mike Elko did at Duke. So 621 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,719 I'm not saying that Diaz has to match the Elko standard, 622 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,760 but he has to come somewhat close, right. He certainly 623 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,880 has to be getting Duke to bowl games, you know, 624 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,840 which is also what Cutcliffe did before his career, you know, 625 00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:46,840 finally petered out at the end, probably lost some energy 626 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,519 on the recruiting trail. Health problems were part of that 627 00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:54,000 picture in Durham. So now we get to find out 628 00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:57,639 once and for all Dias capable of being a good 629 00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:00,679 head coach. If he can't hack it at Duke, that's it. 630 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,159 He's going to be a coordinator in three four years, 631 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,000 and he's going to be a coordinator for the rest 632 00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:08,400 of his career. Again, not a point of shame, not 633 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,679 a point of embarrassment, but just a revealer in terms 634 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,159 of separating the guys who are able to be head 635 00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:20,760 coaches from the guys who are really good coordinators. 636 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: All right, great stuff there, Matt as you keep moving 637 00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:33,000 along here with our with our acc preview, and you know, 638 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,000 now we've got a little bit of context from weeks 639 00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:40,000 zero that that might have changed the answer you could 640 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:42,480 have given to these questions a week ago. We'll we'll see, 641 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,920 you know now with the Georgia Tech victory over Florida State, 642 00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:49,960 s m U going on the road and struggling as 643 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,639 a huge favorite. But you know, getting out of Nevada 644 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,199 and winning, which ACC team do you think takes a 645 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,280 dive this year that we might not be expecting or 646 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,559 maybe we are now after what we saw yesterday. 647 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that Florida State and SMU are 648 00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:11,760 definitely candidates for that. And you know with Florida State, 649 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,800 like the answer is so obvious, right, Like it can't 650 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,079 be any there can't be any other explanation for selling 651 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,760 Florida State stock. It's dj Ugalawa, Like that is the 652 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,599 whole reason, And like so many of us were puzzled, 653 00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:30,400 like this was the this was who Mike Norvel wanted, 654 00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,599 like this, this was the guy that he was eager 655 00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:36,119 to get, like you know, and again and this is 656 00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:39,400 where my place at Trojans where it comes in handy, Right. 657 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,760 I saw Djongoloway at Oregon State covering the PAC twelve 658 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,320 last year, like this guy was not ready for prime time. 659 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,000 And so it was no different. You know, we remember, 660 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,039 you know that that first pass in the ACC Championship 661 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:56,800 game a couple of years ago, Clemson North Carolina, that 662 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,360 first pass he threw nosedive general, you know, right into 663 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,159 the ground and Kage club Nick came in not that 664 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,719 much later and did a fine job as Clemson won 665 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,079 that game. But like we've seen the throwing yips, we've 666 00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:15,079 seen the lack of accuracy. We've seen the inability to 667 00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:19,639 make important plays and big moments over and over and 668 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,559 over again. And there was the thought that, Okay, you 669 00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:26,719 go to Corvallis, out of the media, spotlight, west coast, 670 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,559 different vibe, different situation. And you know, Jonathan Smith is 671 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:33,000 a good coach. Jonathan Smith was you know, on Chris 672 00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:36,639 Peterson's staff when Washington made the College Football Playoff in 673 00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:40,280 twenty sixteen. John and Smith's you know, made Oregon State 674 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,920 a consistently good program. You know, not everybody's able to 675 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,000 do that. So John and Smith's really good at what 676 00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:48,800 he does. And Jonathan Smith, you know, kind of had 677 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,599 that little ego boost, right, and maybe this is what 678 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,559 the problem was with Norvelle selecting U Jungle as well. 679 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,440 These guys are you know, this is an ego driven business. 680 00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:02,000 That's not a criticism, Like, you have to have a 681 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:05,719 healthy male ego to coach elite, big time football. You 682 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,199 have to believe in yourself. You have to know that 683 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,480 you're a bad dude, that that that you are the 684 00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:13,159 alpha male in the room, that you're the big dog. 685 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:16,320 So like when I say these guys are ego driven, 686 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,519 and it's it's not a criticism, but right, you do 687 00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:21,480 have to rein in the ego and you do have 688 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:25,320 to have an awareness of what your limitations are and 689 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,360 what the best thing for your program is. Jonathan Smith felt, 690 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,679 I can be the guy to fix dj Ulangola, and 691 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,119 I think Mike Norvell succumbed to the same temptation, Well 692 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,559 I can fix dj uyogala la, and well we're learning 693 00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:50,159 that actually, no, you can't fix djalaa. And so you 694 00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:52,960 know that. So that was Oregon State's limitation when it 695 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,960 went up against the big dogs in the Pac twelve 696 00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:58,119 last year. You know, couldn't score against Washington when it 697 00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:01,719 really counted, couldn't score against Oregon when it really counted. 698 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,400 So Norvelle takes a chance on dj instead of going 699 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,079 after other quarterbacks in the market who were almost certainly 700 00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:14,639 better and uh, well in week one or week zero 701 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,840 as it were, Uh Nope, didn't didn't rise to the occasion. 702 00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:23,760 And so you know, I found it hard to pick 703 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,000 Florida State to win the league, but I did think 704 00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:29,880 that Florida State would still finish in the top two. 705 00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:32,920 It's gonna be hard for Florida State to finish in 706 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,320 the top two at least right now, you know, unless 707 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,599 we see that growth, unless we see that development in 708 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,079 dj Ouyanga La that you know, these coaches want think 709 00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,719 that they can deliver, but we're not seeing it and 710 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,960 we don't see it for a reason. And then with SMU, 711 00:40:48,039 --> 00:40:52,440 let's pick apart that game against Nevada. I mean, SMU 712 00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,320 had a returning veteran quarterback. So you think that in 713 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,719 Week zero and against a Mountain West opponent that the 714 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,320 offense is going to function, you know, relatively Smoothie a 715 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,559 shaky first half in your first game of the season. Okay, 716 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,239 you know that's totally understandable, but it really didn't get 717 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,119 much better in the second half. I mean SMU was 718 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,239 able to you know, put it together late in the 719 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,679 final eight minutes. But even then, like that that took 720 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,119 a long time to get going against the defense, that 721 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,719 SMU should have been able to really tear to pieces. 722 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,559 Not not being able to score thirty points against Nevada, Yeah, 723 00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:36,199 that that's a worrisome sign. I had SMU finishing kind 724 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,760 of in the middle of the acc around seven eight. 725 00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:42,599 If if this is any indication of the offense that 726 00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,400 we're gonna see, I think SMU probably finishes more like 727 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,639 eleventh to twelveth So, like, those are two natural teams 728 00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,880 that you know are are likely to finish lower than 729 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,079 a lot of people expected. And you know you did 730 00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,000 ask you know which team takes a dive that's unexpect 731 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:04,800 those would be candidates now in terms of expected underperformance. 732 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,440 Well you got to go to Miami for that. But 733 00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:08,719 again that's kind of a separate question from the one 734 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,480 that you asked. But like Miami has all this talent 735 00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:14,079 on paper, will it be realized? You know, we know 736 00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:17,480 that this is a conference full of skeptics about Miami. 737 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:21,519 I'm certainly in that category. I think you guys are too. 738 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,639 You know, so if my Miami underperforming is expected, but 739 00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:30,239 I don't think Florida State underperforming to this extent. I 740 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,360 don't think that was expected. I don't think a lot 741 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,599 of people were expecting Florida State to fall short against 742 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:39,039 Georgia Tech. As well as Georgia Tech did perform, that 743 00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:40,960 that still did come across as a shock. 744 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,119 Speaker 1: All right, man, let's go to the other side, which 745 00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:55,840 acc team will do better than everyone expects this season? 746 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,239 And Georgia Tech, you know, throw there's name into it 747 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,480 had right away after what happen, Well. 748 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 3: Didn't Georgia Tech really raise the bar for for expectations? Right? 749 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,559 And you know, I believe correct me if I'm wrong, guys, 750 00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:12,760 But Georgia Tech was a ten and a half point 751 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,559 underdog more or less, maybe maybe ten maybe nine and 752 00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:19,639 a half. So it was. 753 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,679 Speaker 1: They were ten or eleven point dogs in that one. 754 00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 3: Yep, and they were able to win out right. And 755 00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:29,639 you know, again after that first Florida State touchdown drive, 756 00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,159 I mean, Georgia Tech was just the better team. Like 757 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,079 nothing about that came across as a fluke. Like Georgia 758 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:39,320 Tech manned up, pulled up its bootstraps and and really 759 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,159 just you know, stood up to Florida State physically. And 760 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,679 that's really the impressive thing. And when we identify good coaches, right, 761 00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:52,440 we see them play with the level of physicality that's needed. 762 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,400 We see them play with the speed and what Eric Spolstra, 763 00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:59,280 the coach of the NAMI Heat, calls force. We play 764 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,760 with force. The other team feels the the the weight 765 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,920 of your athleticism, of your confidence, of your clarity. Playing 766 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,440 with force like everything's brought together physicality, speed, football i 767 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:18,599 Q or sports i Q. You know, for any sport, UH, 768 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,880 like the the opponent feels the weight of your presence 769 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,880 on the other side. UH. Georgia Tech plays with that 770 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,719 and that that is really I think the central way 771 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,400 of explaining why Brent Key is a good coach, Why 772 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,440 he's becoming uh so good at what he's done, why 773 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,800 he's finding his footing on the flats uh down there 774 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000 in Atlanta, like he gets his guys to play at 775 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,199 the at the right standard. Now there is there is, still, 776 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,599 of course, a big unanswered question UH with Key and 777 00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:52,199 with UH Georgia Tech. You know, we know that they 778 00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,360 can beat the big dogs, we know that they can 779 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,679 take down the ranked teams. Are they going to be 780 00:44:56,679 --> 00:45:00,000 able to do this? Do this consistently against the middle 781 00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:02,519 tier and lower tier teams because they've stepped on a 782 00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:07,079 rake plenty of times against opponents they should beat, you know, 783 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,920 the big games. They know how to answer the bell. 784 00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:13,199 It's can they take care of the games they're expected to. 785 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,719 So that's that's what we still need to see. But 786 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,960 if that does happen, Georgia Tech's going to be definitely 787 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,599 in the hunt, I would say for the a SEC 788 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,039 Championship game, and it at least will be in the mix. 789 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,920 I don't know if you say, well they're now the favorite, 790 00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:31,079 that might be that's a little premature, but definitely in 791 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:34,480 the mix after beat taking down Florida State, and not 792 00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:36,960 just taking down Florida State, but but doing it in 793 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,559 a way which suggested, you know, this wasn't really a fluke. 794 00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:44,559 Georgia Tech was physically right there on Florida State's level. 795 00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:47,400 If you can make that kind of physical statement, you're 796 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,000 for real. And I'm so I am comfortable saying Georgia 797 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,800 Tech's for real. But how how high is the ceiling? 798 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,320 That's still left to be determined. 799 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,639 Speaker 1: All right, Matt, we're gonna have this next section. We're 800 00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:09,960 gonna call this our lightning round. We've got a series 801 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,559 of questions. We want to get your quick answer to 802 00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:16,559 each one of these. I'm on the start with any 803 00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:20,159 Do you have any coach in the ACC on the 804 00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:21,800 hot seat? 805 00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 3: It's gotta be Mario crystal Ball number one, Like he 806 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,920 is certainly the coach under the most pressure to win. 807 00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:34,239 I think that I think he needs to go eight 808 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,320 and four at least. And you know, let's keep in mind, 809 00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:40,079 Miami has a pretty favorable schedule. You know, this is 810 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,400 not a schedule that, you know, over twelve games, is 811 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,159 just loaded with difficult games. This is like a three 812 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,039 or four game schedule. So like, if you're not at 813 00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:55,760 least going eight and four against this schedule, you know 814 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,719 the schedule is going to be tougher in the future. 815 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,719 Crystal Ball, I think is gone. If he's seven and five, 816 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,320 he's gone. He has to at least go eight and four. 817 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,920 So he's definitely coached Numero uno on the hot seat 818 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,519 in the ACC. 819 00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: All right, what are you gonna who are your two 820 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,280 ACC teams in the title game? 821 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 3: All right? Now, here's where I have to do what 822 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,800 I call a first game revision. And it's something that 823 00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:28,280 when I was writing at College Football News twenty years ago, 824 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,079 I came up with this concept, the week one revision, 825 00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:33,679 that you know, we can speculate for eight months in 826 00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,599 the offseason, but like we all get a mulligan after 827 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,400 one game, you know, is one game enough to move 828 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,840 us off our predict our preseason predictions. Is one game 829 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,400 enough for us to think, oh, it's gonna be different 830 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,480 or or you know, and this is true too, the 831 00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:54,599 first game of the year could be the worst game 832 00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:56,880 that you're gonna see from a given team. So maybe 833 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,559 this is the worst Florida State's gonna gonna play. And 834 00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:03,400 from here on out, you know, they're gonna learn, they're 835 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,320 gonna grow, they're going to evolve, Mike Norvell is gonna 836 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,880 figure everything out. So the week one revision, I think, 837 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,440 is a fascinating concept in college football. Do we have 838 00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:17,760 enough faith in our predictions after one game, one shaky game, 839 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,559 one bad game, to stick with it, or do we think, hey, 840 00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:24,880 this one game it really does convince me to think differently. 841 00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:28,119 So I'm gonna think differently. Before the season, I had 842 00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:32,079 Florida State going against Clemson in the title game, but 843 00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:35,239 I am going to move off of that because you know, 844 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,960 dj Uyang Lay is just not the ticket, He's gonna 845 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,320 cost Florida State at least a few other games this season. 846 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,960 So I'm gonna put Louisville in place of Florida State. 847 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,840 Florida State my preseason pick, but now I'm inserting Louisville 848 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,920 because again, if you can win ten games with Jack Plumber, 849 00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:57,119 you can win at least that many with with quarterbacks 850 00:48:57,119 --> 00:48:59,679 who are at least a little bit better. So I'm 851 00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:02,519 gonna go of Louisville. Like I don't trust Miami. I 852 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:05,679 don't know how how anyone can trust Crystal Ball at 853 00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:07,239 this point. It has to be a you know, I 854 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,960 got to see it before I believe it. And North 855 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,119 Carolina State, I think is very much in the mix 856 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,760 for the title game. But you know the story of 857 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,320 NC State is, you know, we do really well, but 858 00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:21,480 are we gonna do well enough to cross the altar 859 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,519 get that brass ring? Uh? You know that that's something 860 00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:28,039 where with n C State got to show me, you 861 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:29,880 got to show me that you can go all the way. 862 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,159 I think n C State has the makings of a 863 00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:35,400 really good team. I like Grayson McCall. I think that 864 00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:38,320 was a great pick up. And I actually just while 865 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,079 we're on the subject of Grays and McCall, Like, if 866 00:49:41,159 --> 00:49:46,800 he went to Florida State instead of Uyangalile, I don't 867 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,800 think the seminoles would be zero to one right now. 868 00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:53,039 And so it's still a head scratcher that Norvelle went 869 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,480 in the direction he did in the portal. But you know, 870 00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:58,559 we all live with our choices, so you know, I 871 00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:03,599 would not be shocked defenc State made the ACC Championship game. 872 00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:06,519 But I trust Jeff brom more and I think Jeff 873 00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:10,119 brom has certainly earned trust in terms of what he's 874 00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:13,679 able to do in terms of his scheme, his play calling, 875 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:18,519 how he put the nins together. I would give Louisville 876 00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:20,599 the nodge over NC State, but I think it's a 877 00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:25,000 legitimately close call. Also, Virginia Tech, Virginia Tech is in 878 00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:28,559 the mix. You know how close Virginia Tech comes, I 879 00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:31,880 don't know, but Virginia Tech's going to be a factor. 880 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,159 Like Virginia Tech is a team that you know, other 881 00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:36,760 a SEC opponents, they're going to have to deal with 882 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,239 the Hokies go through them if they want to get 883 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,880 to the a SEC Changship Game. So definitely selling my 884 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,159 Florida State stock in terms of making the ACC change game. 885 00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:51,519 I think that Week one was enough to move me 886 00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:54,079 off of that position. And so I'm going to put 887 00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:57,440 Louisville over NC State in Virginia Tech and what should 888 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,800 be a very compelling, interesting race. 889 00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:11,599 Speaker 1: All right, Matt, So you have Louisville are they Are 890 00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:13,880 they playing in C State or Virginia Tech? 891 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 3: Do you think? I? Oh, well, I mean Clemson's gonna 892 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,199 be in the ACC title game. I'm just talking about 893 00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:26,119 the race for that that spot opposite Clemson. Uh yeah, 894 00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:29,559 So yeah, Clemson over Louisville, I think, you know, and 895 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,599 and you know, it's really weird, like I don't think 896 00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:35,639 this is the best Clemson team under Dabbo, and I 897 00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:38,639 think that you know, Dabo's h refusal to hit the 898 00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:47,760 portal uh is certainly in recent years. But because Mike 899 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,360 Norvelle chose the quarterback that he chose, you know that 900 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,880 that's already hurt Florida State and I and I and 901 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,000 you know, if Louisville had a quarterback better than Tyler Shuck, 902 00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:02,159 I probably would be picking the Cardinals to win the league. 903 00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:04,679 But I'm not that convinced about Tyler Shuck. You know, 904 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,519 he remember he was at Oregon before he was at 905 00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:12,239 Texas Tech. You know, I wasn't all that impressed. And 906 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,519 I know that at Texas Tech he showed glimpses of 907 00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:18,800 real quality and he had a problem with injuries. Maybe 908 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,280 bron can max max out with him. But I'm not 909 00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:25,440 entirely convinced that Shuck. I think he can do reasonably well. 910 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,480 But then again, Jack Plumber did reasonably well. I'm not 911 00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,599 convinced that Tyler Shuck can go all the way and 912 00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:37,159 win the ACC. So for all the limitations of Clemson 913 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,400 today under Dabo, because of the stubborn refusal to use 914 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,840 the portal, you know, Clemson still has a lot of 915 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,599 really good players at a lot of important positions. Like 916 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,000 Clemson has the best linebackers in the ACC. That's something 917 00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:56,920 that's often been the case under Dabo. You know, over time, 918 00:52:57,519 --> 00:52:59,599 so Clemson's still going to have a really good defense. 919 00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,719 It's gonna be it's still gonna be hard for other 920 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,880 a CEC teams to to score on the Tigers when 921 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,760 it really counts. And of course when dj U is 922 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,960 playing against this Clemson defense, well I know who whom 923 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,719 I'm giving the edge to h in that game. So 924 00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:19,480 you know, like I don't think Clemson's going to dominate 925 00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:22,280 the ACC. But I think Clemson is the best team 926 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,239 of what we have this year. You know. It's so 927 00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:29,800 it's kind of a it's kind of a contradiction that 928 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,119 I don't it's not as though I think Clemson's raised 929 00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:34,239 the bar. That might be the best way to say it. 930 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,480 I don't think Clemson has raised the bar so much 931 00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:38,920 as the bar is going to be lowered for Florida State, 932 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,079 and the bar is gonna pretty much stay where it 933 00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:46,039 has stayed with the other teams in the ACC. Like 934 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,360 who's going to be the a SEC team that can 935 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:53,960 make a meteoric leap? I don't see that team. Maybe 936 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,920 you could say that Virginia Tech will make a big leap, 937 00:53:57,199 --> 00:53:59,360 But if Virginia Tech makes a big leap, you know 938 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,960 it's it's making the big leap from a middle ground 939 00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:06,920 type position of teams that were good or really good 940 00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:10,400 in the ACC. I don't see them being that much better, 941 00:54:11,039 --> 00:54:13,760 you know, to reach elite status, the status that Florida 942 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,199 State attained a year ago. So I think it's going 943 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,440 to be a very balanced parody defined ACC. And I 944 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,159 do think that Clemson is going to be the best 945 00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:24,400 of the lot. When it's all said and. 946 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 1: Done, all right, who do you have as your ACC 947 00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:31,960 coach of the Year? 948 00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:38,159 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we we have the benefit of already 949 00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:42,119 seeing one game. It's really hard to go against Brent 950 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,039 Key right now, right. I think that when you win 951 00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:49,880 a game against, you know, the team that has been 952 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,880 the big dog in your conference, at least certainly last year. 953 00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:55,880 When you win a game like that, and it's not 954 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,920 just that Georgia Tech won, but it's the way Georgia 955 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:04,599 Tech won. Punched in the mouth early, not getting rattled, regrouping, 956 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,000 and then just showing that it could play in the 957 00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:10,239 trenches with a team which should be very good in 958 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,519 the trenches over the course of the season. Like Florida 959 00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:17,039 State is not going to get physically outworked by a 960 00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:19,719 lot of teams this year, but Georgia Tech was physically 961 00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:23,719 standing up to Florida State and was better when it 962 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,199 really counted. If you can coach up Georgia Tech to 963 00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:31,280 be that good that quickly against a quality opponent, chances 964 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,639 are that's gonna be what's gonna be most of the year. 965 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,239 That's gonna be reflective and representative of what we're gonna 966 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,920 see from Georgia Tech. So I think Brent Key has 967 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,159 really taken a very very big step forward toward ACC 968 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,599 Coach of the Year, and so like it might be 969 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,719 cheating on my part, but like I got to see that. 970 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,719 Should I ignore that? I don't really think I should. 971 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,559 I think I should just go with what I've already 972 00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:01,000 seen Brent Key with his nose and of the rest 973 00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:03,559 of the field. 974 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,159 Speaker 1: All right, And last couple questions here to round out 975 00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:15,599 this segment, Matt, who were your twelve college football playoff teams? 976 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,760 And then give us your national champion? 977 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 3: All right? Well, you know I wrestled with this, like 978 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,559 did I want to name all twelve playoff teams? As 979 00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:31,119 though like I believe each of these twelve teams or 980 00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:37,440 playoff teams. I know I could give you twelve teams, 981 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,639 but I think that would be a little bit disingenuous 982 00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:42,920 because I see so many question marks across the country 983 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,719 that I don't want to be naming a playoff team 984 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,119 when frankly, I don't think that team might be playoff quality. 985 00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:52,760 I will say this, I will say this, I think 986 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,719 that you're not going to see multiple bids from the 987 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,239 ACC or the Big twelve I think those are going 988 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,760 to be one big conferences, so I don't think you're 989 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,800 going to get multiple at large teams there. It's really 990 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,800 going to come down to the SEC and the Big 991 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:15,280 Ten and how many at large teams fill the field. 992 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,400 And then we also have Notre Dame. I'm not sold 993 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,280 on Notre Dame as a playoff team. I think that 994 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:24,079 Marcus Freeman does he really get it on offense? I'm 995 00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:26,599 not sure. I know that he brought in Mike Denbrock 996 00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,599 from former Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly at LSU, but 997 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,559 you know, I need to see Marcus Freeman put it 998 00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:36,679 all together on the offensive side of the ball before 999 00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:39,760 I fully buy into Notre Dame as being a playoff team. 1000 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,679 So like I'm not sold on the Irish as a 1001 00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:46,800 playoff team, I will say that, you know, in the 1002 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,159 in the SEC and the Big Ten, you should get 1003 00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:52,480 at least three teams in from each of those two conferences, 1004 00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:54,079 so meaning that they're going to be at least two 1005 00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:56,639 at larges. And I think one of the interesting plot 1006 00:57:56,639 --> 00:57:59,239 points this season is you know, which is one of 1007 00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:00,960 those two conference is going to be able to get 1008 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,840 four teams in. So that's gonna be really interesting, and 1009 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,440 so in many ways, you're gonna have a scramble. So 1010 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,559 in terms of filling out the twelve team playoff, I 1011 00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:13,239 think you're gonna have some kind of wild scramble among 1012 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:19,079 the collection of Penn State, Michigan, Ole Miss, Missouri. 1013 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 1014 00:58:20,639 --> 00:58:23,199 Speaker 3: I'm you know, I can't really say USC. I think 1015 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,920 USC is gonna go nine and three, and I don't 1016 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,920 think nine and three gets you in the playoff this year. 1017 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,920 I mean US he has an outside chance, but but 1018 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,400 I wouldn't say like USC's at the front of the line. 1019 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:38,480 So uh, Ole Miss, Missouri, Penn State, Michigan. Uh. You know, 1020 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,519 Iowa has a really soft schedule. Now I don't think 1021 00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:45,880 Iowa is a better team than say, Ole Miss, but 1022 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,920 Iowa has a more favorable schedule than Ole Miss. So 1023 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:54,280 that's certainly something to pay attention to. Maybe Tennessee U 1024 00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:56,519 is also part of this. Maybe LSU. You know, if 1025 00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:58,840 LSU beats us c LS, you would certainly be in 1026 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,360 the playoff mix. So, you know, I think the usual suspects, 1027 00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:08,800 or rather the expected teams Ohio State or Ohio State 1028 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,639 and Oregon in the Big ten, Georgia and Alabama. Uh 1029 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,320 in the SEC. I think those teams are getting in. 1030 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,039 So I've picked Clemson to win the ACC, so Clemson 1031 00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:23,840 gets in. In the Big twelve, I think that's Utah's 1032 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,639 to lose. So I think Utah gets in. H. So 1033 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,159 like those are the those are you know, the six 1034 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,760 that you start with. I think, uh, you know, Boise 1035 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,960 State it will be right there in the mix for 1036 00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:42,079 the group of five. But but exactly how that shakes out, 1037 00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:44,440 I'm not really sure. But I do think Boise State 1038 00:59:44,519 --> 00:59:46,639 is going to be in the mix, uh for for 1039 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,559 the group of five spot and then after that it's 1040 00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:52,320 going to really be a scramble among several teams in 1041 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,679 the Big ten uh and the SEC. And I think, 1042 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,440 you know, the plot points are are going to be interesting. 1043 01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:03,599 One of them is going to be let's say Michigan 1044 01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:08,000 finishes nine and three and Penn State finishes ten and two. 1045 01:00:08,119 --> 01:00:10,559 Now you could say that, well, if you're Penn State 1046 01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:14,679 and you're ten and two, you're getting in. That's probably right. 1047 01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:21,760 But but Michigan plays Texas out of conference and plays 1048 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,440 USC and Ohio State. Let's say Michigan has wins over 1049 01:00:26,679 --> 01:00:30,599 at least two of Texas, USC, Ohio State, and finishes 1050 01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,039 nine and three, So where do the Wolverines fall in there? 1051 01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:37,559 You know? And so the larger point I'm getting at, 1052 01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:40,440 guys is, you know, if you're nine and three, but 1053 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,599 you have some great, awesome wins and there's a ten 1054 01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:47,920 and two team that basically lost, it's it's only two 1055 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,760 important games of the season. Are we going to see 1056 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,800 that nine and three team with the with lots of 1057 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,400 great wins getting into a twelve team playoff over a 1058 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,639 ten and two team? And we see at least one 1059 01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:02,079 of these teams every year, right, ten and two, but 1060 01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:04,679 the two biggest games were losses. You don't have a 1061 01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:07,320 lot of meat on the bone with your resume, So 1062 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,079 how is that going to shake out? And like, consider 1063 01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:12,960 consider Missouri. You know in the SEC you know, if 1064 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,800 Missouri goes ten and two, is Missouri going to get 1065 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,920 the same level of benefit of the doubt that ten 1066 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,199 and two Penn State does or nine and three Michigan does, 1067 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,159 or you know, let's say Tennessee or LSU go nine 1068 01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:29,079 and three. Is it is it a given that ten 1069 01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:31,119 and two Missouri gets in over let's say like a 1070 01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:34,079 nine and three Michigan or a nine and three Tennessee 1071 01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:40,079 I'm not fully convinced Ury goes ten and two. Missouri's 1072 01:01:40,159 --> 01:01:42,800 probably getting in, but that there have to be some 1073 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,519 good wins there and it can't be a situation where 1074 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,960 Missouri's ten wins were against mediocre to bad teams. With 1075 01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:54,960 that and there's no high end poker chip and you 1076 01:01:55,039 --> 01:01:57,199 have some nine and three teams that do have some 1077 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,119 high end wins. So how that's going to be sorted out, 1078 01:02:01,559 --> 01:02:04,679 it's gonna be fascinating. And I don't think we should 1079 01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:07,519 feel overly confident about how this is going to go, 1080 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,920 especially since we saw how Florida State was screwed and 1081 01:02:13,039 --> 01:02:16,360 wronged last year. You know that that that having the 1082 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,559 better record if there's a plot point that ESPN doesn't like, 1083 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,320 you know, we saw how unfairly ESPN treated Florida State. 1084 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,000 So like, if you're a name brand school, you know, 1085 01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:29,920 if you're if you're one of the Cadillac schools and 1086 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,400 you're tending too, yeah, you don't have to worry about 1087 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,480 getting in. You're gonna you're gonna, you're gonna be there 1088 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,960 for the TV ratings. But if you're not, you know, 1089 01:02:38,039 --> 01:02:42,320 one of those Cadillac schools, uh, and you go ten 1090 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,920 and two, and your resume is kind of thin. I 1091 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,920 can certainly see a nine and three Michigan or a 1092 01:02:48,039 --> 01:02:50,519 nine and three Tennessee or a nine and three LSU 1093 01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:53,599 getting in over that school. So it's gonna be really 1094 01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:56,840 interesting to see how the how the playoff process works 1095 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:02,119 in the twelve team format. Uh and okay, national champion. 1096 01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:05,760 This is going to be really boring and it's not 1097 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,880 gonna go over well in the ACC. But it's hard 1098 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,840 for me to not pick Georgia. I think that, you know, 1099 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,440 Georgia after missing the playoff last year, those guys are 1100 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,239 going to be breathing fire. I think there's gonna be 1101 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:24,239 a fresh hunger there for Kirby Smart. And the other 1102 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,719 thing is is that you know, I don't trust Ryan 1103 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,400 Day at Ohio State. I think Ohio State obviously makes 1104 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,159 the playoff, but you know, if it's Ohio State against 1105 01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:36,079 Georgia for all the marbles, I'm definitely picking Georgia. I'm 1106 01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:39,800 definitely going with Kirby. I'm definitely going against Ryan Day. 1107 01:03:40,679 --> 01:03:43,480 I'm also not fully trusting Dan Lanning at Oregon. Now 1108 01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:45,480 I trust him to make the playoff because you know, 1109 01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:48,679 with twelve teams, come on, Oregon's definitely going to be 1110 01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:50,960 one of the twelve best teams in the country. I mean, 1111 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,119 it's gonna be next to impossible for Oregon to lose 1112 01:03:53,159 --> 01:03:56,519 anything more than two games against this schedule. So Oregon's 1113 01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:59,119 going to get in. But once we get to the playoff, 1114 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,280 I don't trust and Landing in big games. You know, 1115 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,840 Kaylin de boor ate his lunch with Washington, uh So 1116 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,840 I would much rather trust uh de Boer and Kirby 1117 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,679 Smart than Lanning and Ryan Day and some others. So 1118 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,480 you know, I know that people in the a SEC 1119 01:04:16,639 --> 01:04:18,519 don't like to hear this, but I think the SEC 1120 01:04:18,599 --> 01:04:23,280 has the coaches with the established pedigree, the proven track record. 1121 01:04:23,639 --> 01:04:26,760 So give me, like, give me Georgia before Ohio State, 1122 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:31,400 give me Alabama before Oregon. Those are some of my 1123 01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:34,079 choices in terms of, you know, who's more likely to 1124 01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:36,920 go deeper into the playoff, And ultimately I think it's 1125 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,880 going to be Georgia just because those guys are now 1126 01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:42,920 going to be really motivated in a way that didn't 1127 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,320 apply last year. You know, last year, two time defending champion, 1128 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,599 target on their back, everyone gunning for them. It was 1129 01:04:49,679 --> 01:04:51,880 hard for them to have the same hunger. They were 1130 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,239 also turning over so many players to the NFL, as 1131 01:04:54,239 --> 01:04:56,320 they do every year. I think this year they're going 1132 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,280 there's gonna be an extra hunger in Athens and it's 1133 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,639 going to make a different and for the dogs. 1134 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, Thank you, Matt Matthew, I'm gonna 1135 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,519 turn it over to you for our last question in 1136 01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:10,880 the podcast. 1137 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 2: Open microphone, mad SEMC, what do you got for us? 1138 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,559 Speaker 3: The floor is here. Well, you know, just in terms 1139 01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:21,679 of some general things for all of you listeners and 1140 01:05:21,719 --> 01:05:25,159 for you guys at the All Sports Discussion podcast to 1141 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,760 keep in mind during the twenty twenty four season, Let's 1142 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,519 remember that the helmet communication. You know, the quarterback is 1143 01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:40,840 able to communicate with his coach via helmet communication until 1144 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,880 the snap or until fifteen seconds are left on the 1145 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,000 play clock. So you're gonna want to remember that quarterbacks 1146 01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:53,360 are not going to be all on their own this year, 1147 01:05:53,519 --> 01:05:56,920 that they're going to have direct helmet communication. I think 1148 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,280 you're going to see quarterback play be really good across 1149 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,639 the country. For that reason. It also makes SMU, you know, 1150 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,559 SMU kind of not being good against Nevada. It makes 1151 01:06:07,639 --> 01:06:10,239 SMU's performance a little bit more alarming, you know, because 1152 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,519 this Preston Stone, veteran quarterback, has helmet communication and yet 1153 01:06:14,519 --> 01:06:17,159 he really couldn't figure things out until very very late. 1154 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,960 I think that, you know, we should see quarterbacks establish 1155 01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:24,440 a higher standard more quickly, precisely because they have that 1156 01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:28,239 voice in their ear before the snap helping them, you know, 1157 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,960 survey the field and one of the other things. You know. 1158 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,159 Having mentioned that, you know, you get until fifteen seconds 1159 01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:40,159 on the play clock to have that communication. I think 1160 01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:43,159 that means we're going to see fewer huddles, right that 1161 01:06:43,519 --> 01:06:45,400 if you're a head coach, and especially if you're a 1162 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:50,320 good offensive play caller, as a head coach, you will 1163 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,159 want your quarterback to get right up to the line 1164 01:06:53,159 --> 01:06:55,880 of scrimmage and then you're going to talk to him 1165 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,599 for those ten seconds right from twenty five seconds down 1166 01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:02,960 to fifteen You don't want your quarterback in a huddle. 1167 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,400 You want to right up at the line of scrimmage. 1168 01:07:05,719 --> 01:07:07,280 So I think we're going to see a lot fewer 1169 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,320 huddles in college football for that very reason, because the 1170 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,199 coaches will want their quarterbacks to be at the line 1171 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,639 surveying the defense, looking at the defensive alignment. So just 1172 01:07:17,719 --> 01:07:21,519 that one change in college football that helmet to helmet 1173 01:07:22,599 --> 01:07:25,880 communication that's going to really impact the sports. So we 1174 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,719 need to be ready to realize how the sport is 1175 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,639 going to change. Obviously, we also had the two minute warning, 1176 01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:36,679 and like that is going to be something that should 1177 01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:40,119 help coaches a lot in terms of game management, you know, 1178 01:07:40,199 --> 01:07:45,239 handling your three timeouts, handling your end of game situations. Basically, 1179 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,119 that two minute warning is going to be a chance 1180 01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:53,639 for coaches to plot out their endgame management strategies. So 1181 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,920 like coaches are getting a lot of help. That's really 1182 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,039 the bottom line. Coaches are getting a lot of help 1183 01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:03,440 with these rule chains this year in college football, and 1184 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,000 so you know we run into game management disasters every year. 1185 01:08:08,119 --> 01:08:10,480 Marrio Crystabaal is, you know, one of the worst offenders 1186 01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:13,840 of this. If you can't get your game management right 1187 01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:17,359 in twenty twenty four in college football, with you know, 1188 01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:20,800 being able to talk to your quarterback, being being able 1189 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,199 to get that extra time out at the two minute warning, 1190 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,359 if you can't get these ducks in a row, if 1191 01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:32,760 you can't get organized, you know, something is even more disordered, 1192 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,600 even more amiss than it was previous seasons. Not that 1193 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:42,159 coaches had any excuses to mangle endgame management questions before. 1194 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,840 But this year, this year, if you're still getting these 1195 01:08:46,119 --> 01:08:50,479 endgame management situations wrong, then that that will merit even 1196 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,760 more criticism, and it will raise even more questions about 1197 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,960 your fitness to be a head coach. You know now 1198 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,760 that you have more resources at your disposal. So the 1199 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,439 big your theme though, is for all, for all the 1200 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,199 listeners of the All Sports Discussion podcast. There's a lot 1201 01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:07,159 of things that are that are going to be really 1202 01:09:07,159 --> 01:09:09,640 different about the product that we see on the field 1203 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,800 this year. Just keep your eyes open and be aware 1204 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,039 of how much this sport could be changing on the field. 1205 01:09:16,079 --> 01:09:17,880 I know we talk a lot about off the field. 1206 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,640 I wanted to make this open microphone segment more about 1207 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:27,640 you know, having football back, enjoying football, appreciating football. Let's 1208 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,079 let's focus on how the product on the field is 1209 01:09:31,119 --> 01:09:33,279 going to be different, because you know, we have January 1210 01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:37,439 through August to talk about off field stuff nil the portal, 1211 01:09:38,079 --> 01:09:43,560 you know, litigation, which which the ACC knows really well 1212 01:09:44,039 --> 01:09:47,079 at this point, Let's just talk about on the football field. 1213 01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:50,119 And there's a lot that's already new and already very 1214 01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:53,960 different about the sport this season. One final note, and 1215 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,800 you guys might have picked up on this. I saw 1216 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,720 this on the internet on Sunday, Florida State Georgia Tech 1217 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,079 had just fourteen possession like that, that's just a really 1218 01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:08,560 small amount of possessions. Uh So, like it's a it's 1219 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,479 the game is going to be different in so many 1220 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,319 different ways with the clock running on first down, and 1221 01:10:14,359 --> 01:10:16,159 then you also have the two minute warning, and you 1222 01:10:16,199 --> 01:10:19,079 also have the helmet communication. So many ways in this 1223 01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:21,800 which this sport is going to be different on the field, 1224 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,239 and it's it's just going to be fun to to 1225 01:10:24,319 --> 01:10:28,680 observe the the the different nuances that are going to 1226 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,239 emerge from this over the course of the twenty twenty 1227 01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:31,800 four season. 1228 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 2: Well Well said Matt Well said, Matt, Jeff, you're upred, of. 1229 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Course, I got I gotta go back to the game 1230 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:51,920 yesterday with with Georgia Tech and Florida State. You know, 1231 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,720 you look at what Brent Key has done taking over 1232 01:10:56,159 --> 01:11:00,560 from from the train wreck that Jeff Collins uh left there, 1233 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:05,000 and you know how he's turned Georgia Tech, especially at 1234 01:11:05,039 --> 01:11:09,119 the line of scrimmage, around in such a short period 1235 01:11:09,159 --> 01:11:13,039 of time. And I go back to last year and 1236 01:11:13,079 --> 01:11:15,840 why I felt that this was definitely a game that 1237 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,640 was extremely dangerous for Florida State. Is if there was 1238 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,680 any doubt about the direction that he was working towards, 1239 01:11:25,319 --> 01:11:28,159 I mean, just pull out that tape against Georgia. I mean, 1240 01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:30,960 Matt's already talked about, you know, they could be your 1241 01:11:31,039 --> 01:11:34,720 national champions this year and they're probably on that extremely 1242 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,640 short list and if you did a poll across the country, 1243 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,359 they're probably number one. Kirby smartest, you know he has 1244 01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:44,159 and I hate to say it, but he's got the 1245 01:11:44,199 --> 01:11:48,560 premier college football program in the country right now. I 1246 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:54,439 mean they've they've surpassed Ohio State now with Nick Saban 1247 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,720 no longer at Alabama, even though they beat even though 1248 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,640 the Tide did beat Georgia last year, I mean, I 1249 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,520 think you have to move you know, Georgia ahead of Alabama. 1250 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:08,039 And in that game, you saw Georgia Tech, especially with 1251 01:12:08,119 --> 01:12:12,560 their offensive line, do things to a Georgia defense that 1252 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,159 you almost never see happen. I think Georgia Tech was 1253 01:12:16,199 --> 01:12:19,720 the first team in maybe four or five years that 1254 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:24,279 ran for over two hundred yards against Georgia and they 1255 01:12:24,319 --> 01:12:27,479 were not going to be overwhelmed by the talent at 1256 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:33,600 Florida State in that game. So now I think Matt 1257 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,000 hit on a great point earlier. You know, Georgia Tech's 1258 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,800 shown the ability to you know, beat ranked opponents, to 1259 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,439 elevate when they play better teams. Beating all those ranked 1260 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,279 teams being competitive with Georgia what are they going to 1261 01:12:48,359 --> 01:12:51,760 do now? You know, can Brent Key kind of overcome 1262 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,840 you know, a little bit of the tendency, especially early 1263 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,119 last season with those losses at home to Bowling Green 1264 01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:01,760 and Boston College. He gets Georgia State at home this 1265 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,560 Saturday in prime time? You know, is that going to 1266 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,399 be closer than it should be game? 1267 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:08,199 Speaker 2: You know? 1268 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 1: Or is it gonna be one where Georgia Tech is 1269 01:13:11,119 --> 01:13:13,800 going to roll? And if they can kind of roll there, 1270 01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:18,479 you go on the road the week after, h tricky 1271 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,199 place to always play at Syracuse and then you have 1272 01:13:22,239 --> 01:13:25,800 a game you're probably too talented, uh for for vm I, 1273 01:13:26,279 --> 01:13:28,680 but you really could be looking at a Georgia Tech 1274 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,199 team that could be four and oh going to Louisville. 1275 01:13:31,279 --> 01:13:35,680 And I think these next two weeks are really going 1276 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,640 to tell the tell, you know, does does Brent Key 1277 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,439 have this team you know set up to really have 1278 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,520 a special season? Can they win the games that they're 1279 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,479 supposed to win because he's got the part of elevating 1280 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,279 him up. He's got that down pat and he's got 1281 01:13:52,319 --> 01:13:56,640 them just you know, as good as and Matt and 1282 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,520 the other Matthew and I were talking about that. I mean, 1283 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,479 we're not not sure that Georgia Tech has maybe been 1284 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,520 better at the line of scrimmage on both sides of 1285 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,800 the ball that we've seen in at least thirty going 1286 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,439 back to maybe Georgia O'Leary days with Ralph Fridgen. I 1287 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,359 mean when you went a little bit, you know, since 1288 01:14:15,399 --> 01:14:18,439 that time. You know, Chan Gaily had the great john 1289 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,279 toon Nuda defenses, but he had no offense. And then 1290 01:14:21,279 --> 01:14:24,359 Paul Johnson was tremendous on offense, but his defense was 1291 01:14:24,399 --> 01:14:26,920 always struggling. Of course, Jeff Collins was just a mess 1292 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,000 on both sides of the ball. So I mean, you 1293 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,159 could be looking at the Georgia Tech team that's as 1294 01:14:32,199 --> 01:14:34,520 good at the line of scrimmage as they've been, you 1295 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,199 know since the late nineties, early two thousands, when they 1296 01:14:38,199 --> 01:14:40,039 won three in a row against Georgia. And I'm not 1297 01:14:40,079 --> 01:14:42,199 predicting that by any stretch, but you went three in 1298 01:14:42,279 --> 01:14:45,520 a row against Georgia at any time in the last 1299 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,359 you know, thirty forty years. You're really good at the 1300 01:14:49,359 --> 01:14:51,880 line of scrimmage, and you know, Georgia Tech is just 1301 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,840 going to be a really interesting team. And speaking as 1302 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,039 a fan, it's so exciting for them to be relevant again. 1303 01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,560 I mean, I was watching in the game yesterday and thinking, you're, like, man, 1304 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,600 this is so much better than like three or four 1305 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,920 years ago. It's just so great to go into a 1306 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,479 game I feel like you have a chance against you know, 1307 01:15:09,399 --> 01:15:11,880 almost anyone you play not not gonna win them all, 1308 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,880 but you know, you feel like you have a chance. 1309 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,640 You're looking at a well coached team that doesn't make 1310 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,159 the mistakes. That was another thing from yesterday. I'm gonna 1311 01:15:19,159 --> 01:15:21,840 point out real quick before turn it over to Matt you. 1312 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:27,680 Yesterday was an extremely well coached game between the Florida 1313 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,560 State and Georgia Tech staffs. That was a no opening 1314 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,880 game of the season, playing in the rain in Dublin, Ireland. 1315 01:15:34,039 --> 01:15:37,039 There were no turnovers and they were very few penalties 1316 01:15:37,079 --> 01:15:39,079 in that game. I mean, that could have easily been 1317 01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:41,960 something you see in mid October. So you know, the 1318 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,479 preparation for both teams to come in ready to play. 1319 01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:49,000 You know, maybe not the game plans if you're a 1320 01:15:49,039 --> 01:15:52,640 Florida State fan, but the but you know, the lack 1321 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,560 of turnovers, lack of penalties show that both teams and 1322 01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,159 were ready to play. Those staffs had them ready to go. 1323 01:16:03,319 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 2: That's definitely the case. That's definitely the case. And Matt 1324 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,479 I wanted to the other coach. That was the other 1325 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,720 coach I was thinking of when you asked me that 1326 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,640 question about Mad answer earlier was Jim Whacker. 1327 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,159 Speaker 3: I had to think about it. 1328 01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:20,439 Speaker 2: In my memory, he was the last one that went 1329 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,359 to Minnesota and he came from INDISU during the days 1330 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,720 when they had the triple option and were winning the 1331 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,439 titles at the Division two level. And I still think 1332 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,920 that there's some Minnesota donors that have this bad taste 1333 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,119 in their mind about a guy who won twenty five 1334 01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:40,520 to thirty percent of his victories. And I know that 1335 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,600 goes years and years ago, but people don't forget about that, 1336 01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:47,279 and I know it sounds weird. 1337 01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:51,399 Speaker 3: Just while we're talking about Jim Whacker, was did he 1338 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:56,359 go to Minnesota before or after TCU? He went there 1339 01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:03,279 before TCU. Okay, yeah, was kind of his fall fallback, 1340 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,319 you know, demotion spot. Yeah, that makes sense. 1341 01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they're kind of I kind of feel like, 1342 01:17:10,319 --> 01:17:12,600 you know, it's like it's like, I feel like my 1343 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,920 friend Ben Jacobsen, for example, should have been hired at 1344 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,680 Minnesota as their men's basketball coach. But I feel like 1345 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,880 he's paying for the sins of. 1346 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:30,680 Speaker 3: Chin Wacker, do you know what I mean? Yes, which 1347 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:31,439 is terrible. 1348 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,359 Speaker 2: It's not fair because he's a good coach and arguably 1349 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,760 recruited better in the Twin Cities than Rick Beatino's son. 1350 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,720 Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, that's right. 1351 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,119 Speaker 2: That's what I would That's what I would argue there though. 1352 01:17:47,239 --> 01:17:49,560 So Matt, thank you so much for joining us on 1353 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,119 the Allspoorts Discussion, a SECS podcast and spending your Sunday 1354 01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:56,479 evening with us. And we love to revisit with you 1355 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:57,199 in December. 1356 01:17:57,239 --> 01:18:02,239 Speaker 3: Friend. You know, this is our late August tradition camp. Uh. 1357 01:18:02,279 --> 01:18:04,800 You know, it'll it'll be fascinating to see where we 1358 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,880 are when we have our pre Christmas show, and where 1359 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,119 the college football Playoffs is going to be, and and 1360 01:18:11,119 --> 01:18:13,680 and how this first season will have gone, how the 1361 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,199 selection process will have gone so like in the next uh, 1362 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,960 in the next three months, man, so much is going 1363 01:18:20,039 --> 01:18:22,319 to change and so much is going to happen, and 1364 01:18:22,359 --> 01:18:24,119 it's going to be great to be along with you 1365 01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:27,600 guys on the journey at All Sports Discussion. Have a 1366 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,000 great week, guys. Take care,