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Speaker 5: And I would often go down and take a walk
Speaker 5: on the cliffs around a resort called Terranea and back.
Speaker 5: It was like a two mile walk, and I would
Speaker 5: do this, I don't know, several times a week. It
Speaker 5: was a nice walk, beautiful view and all this type
Speaker 5: of thing. So one day I'm walking down the path
Speaker 5: towards the cliff and it's like an open field and
Speaker 5: I'm just floating. I'm not thinking about any thing really,
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, I had the strong impression
Speaker 5: that I should jump from the cliff. Thought what the heck?
Speaker 5: And I got closer to the cliff and the impressions
Speaker 5: kept coming. I thought, oh my god, this is weird.
Speaker 5: I was not suicidal, and I'd never thought about jumping.
Speaker 5: And I get to the cliff path, and I looked
Speaker 5: down the path, and several hundred yards down the path
Speaker 5: there was a place where a woman had jumped to
Speaker 5: her death the month before, and there was a gathering
Speaker 5: of people looked like her friends and family standing there
Speaker 5: holding a service. And I fear, Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 5: picking up their impressions from hundreds of yards away. That's
Speaker 5: what they were thinking about. They were thinking about her
Speaker 5: jumping off the cliff. The cliff and I picked it.
Speaker 5: I picked it. I picked it up.
Speaker 2: What is happening? And what is a hold out your
Speaker 2: glass because we're about to feel it.
Speaker 5: All things continually lead back to serpents, dragons, fairies, nepheline
Speaker 5: and fallen angels.
Speaker 4: In the distance looms a mystical mountain. As Mike Kaiser
Speaker 4: used to say, if it's in the Bible and it's weird,
Speaker 4: it's probably important. At its peak, a great fire burns,
Speaker 4: concealing the Prometheus lens.
Speaker 5: This development of this knowledge that's being talked about within
Speaker 5: the mystery schools.
Speaker 4: An ancient artifact said to reveal the hidden truth within
Speaker 4: a deliberately darkened world.
Speaker 5: There is a hidden history that's been deliberately obscated from
Speaker 5: the people's little world.
Speaker 4: Join us as we travel and explore the vast unknown.
Speaker 4: It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay, damsels to save,
Speaker 4: and innumerable treasures to hoard.
Speaker 6: Torches high the Smithsonian, they call wind of the Giant's Belt,
Speaker 6: would send their agents out to get it. But it
Speaker 6: takes courage to move forward, to move out of the shadows,
Speaker 6: out of the cut reality that we think of, this reality.
Speaker 2: We are all on the hero's journey.
Speaker 4: Mankind has been in contact with and influenced by extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2: Leave the citien mound of bull feathers out of it, you.
Speaker 5: Know, look at it from a different perspective, different perspective.
Speaker 1: Different perspective.
Speaker 2: What is happening and what is up? Oh, that's your
Speaker 2: glass because we are about to feel it up. Welcome
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Speaker 2: we have a returning guest, a man that written several books,
Speaker 2: more than I can count. He'd quitely tell you a
Speaker 2: specific number, but we had him on the show to
Speaker 2: talk about out of place artifacts, and i'd like to
Speaker 2: welcome back to the show Addington Martin.
Speaker 5: Thank you well, thank you, Justin. I've written a lot
Speaker 5: of books, yes, last count over one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 5: I don't have an exact count, but I started my
Speaker 5: first book went back in two thousand, on the use
Speaker 5: of these scientific scientific method for measuring the paranormal, and
Speaker 5: they didn't write anything for about seven or eight years,
Speaker 5: and then I started writing on different topics that interested me,
Speaker 5: like longevity and the paranormal, and I got into a
Speaker 5: lot more stuff. That's where I am today. In fact,
Speaker 5: I've also got online training courses are started selling this year,
Speaker 5: and I have a sub website for that. So I
Speaker 5: consider myself having had a lot of experience with time
Speaker 5: and dimensions, both experiences I've had from prophecy and future seeing,
Speaker 5: as well as what you might call well seeing the future,
Speaker 5: and plus the research I've done on people's experiences with
Speaker 5: time travel and traveling in different dimensions, and I think
Speaker 5: it's all related. So yes, i'd like to think I
Speaker 5: know something about it from all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know our last conversation you had mentioned some
Speaker 2: of the books that you had written, and you said
Speaker 2: one of them was on time and time travel, and
Speaker 2: I told you I'd love to have you back and
Speaker 2: have that conversation. So that's what we're going to do today.
Speaker 2: So actually, what I got you looking into this and
Speaker 2: fascinated with this was this some kind of personal experience
Speaker 2: or interest as a kid with films? What got you
Speaker 2: down that rabbit trail?
Speaker 5: Well, that's a good question. I have read a lot
Speaker 5: of science fiction books, thousands, including multiple books on time travel,
Speaker 5: so that was part of my original interest. But I
Speaker 5: think also my experiences with premonitions and prophecy gave me
Speaker 5: a lot of interest, and I thought I would research
Speaker 5: what people's experiences were related to time travel and also
Speaker 5: dimensional travel a few years ago, so that really got
Speaker 5: me into the topic, and I've learned a lot of
Speaker 5: fascinating things. One of the things I learned, and this
Speaker 5: is from one of my books about Ireland. Ancient Ireland,
Speaker 5: there was an ancient race. They are called the Twatha
Speaker 5: de Donna. Have you ever heard of them? Uh, the
Speaker 5: Twatha de Donna or an ancient race that the drew
Speaker 5: evolved from, as well as the little people, and they
Speaker 5: claimed to have come from another world they called the
Speaker 5: other world, and they have all sorts of stories about
Speaker 5: how they would get enter the other world and how
Speaker 5: they come back. And people who are humans who've been
Speaker 5: to the other world. There are some who came back
Speaker 5: said that they might have been there days or even hours,
Speaker 5: but when they came back, time was dramatically different. If
Speaker 5: they were their days, they might have been gone months here.
Speaker 5: If they were gone a lot longer, they might have
Speaker 5: been years here, many years. So to me, that indicates
Speaker 5: that they were traveling to a different dimension where time
Speaker 5: runs at a different speed, and that would make sense
Speaker 5: another dimension would have different physical properties, including time could
Speaker 5: run at a different speed than here. So that's one
Speaker 5: of the things that really interest in me. And then
Speaker 5: on the books I've written on time travel experiences and
Speaker 5: dimensional travel experiences, I've come to believe that reality is
Speaker 5: not as solid as we'd like to think. That you
Speaker 5: can you can change your future through your actions, and
Speaker 5: I'll talk about that more later. So I really look
Speaker 5: at reality as really being very flexible, very malleable. In fact,
Speaker 5: one of my books is about the malleability of reality
Speaker 5: and how you can change it to the reality that
Speaker 5: you want to have, which sounds a little insane, but
Speaker 5: I think there really are abilities to do that, and
Speaker 5: so that's kind of the whole ball of wax roll
Speaker 5: together my personal experiences, the research I've done, my thoughts
Speaker 5: about reality and what it really is. The reality we
Speaker 5: see today or we think we see, is really more
Speaker 5: of an usion. It's are wanting to have a grasp
Speaker 5: on a solid place in the universe, but that's not
Speaker 5: necessarily true. Everything is changing all the time.
Speaker 2: And for those people too that it's not familiar with
Speaker 2: this or just thinks it sounds really out there. Even
Speaker 2: NASA has talked about, you know, these long missions and
Speaker 2: sending these guys back and how time is just different now,
Speaker 2: you know, once they get out in space. I've seen
Speaker 2: some videos and read some stuff online that even this
Speaker 2: is an accepted you know fact.
Speaker 5: Yes, if you look at Einstein's theory of relativity, which
Speaker 5: is one hundred years old now actually a little more.
Speaker 5: One of the things he theorized, which has been proven
Speaker 5: pretty true by experiment, is that the closer you get
Speaker 5: to the speed of light, the more your mass increases
Speaker 5: and the more time slows down. So theoretically, if you've
Speaker 5: gotten a spaceship going to Alpha Centauri and you sped
Speaker 5: up to a higher percentage of the speed of light
Speaker 5: twenty five fifty percent, even though it's four and a
Speaker 5: half years at the speed of light there, maybe twenty years.
Speaker 5: By the speed you were going, you would probably only
Speaker 5: experience a smaller proportion of that. You would think it
Speaker 5: took a lot shorter time to get there because time
Speaker 5: has slowed down for you significantly. I'm not doing the
Speaker 5: calculations on exactly how much that is, but time is variable.
Speaker 5: That's one of the things we've learned from famous physicists
Speaker 5: like Einstein. The time change is depending on your location
Speaker 5: and the amount of gravity involved and your speed. Those
Speaker 5: are all factors in the perception of time. And again,
Speaker 5: I think there are membranes or windows in time that
Speaker 5: people can pass through to go to different past experiences.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you're familiar, but the missing
Speaker 2: four one one, you know, talks about these people that
Speaker 2: go into these parks in these different places and they
Speaker 2: just disappear without a trace, you know, and a few
Speaker 2: people do you know that make their way back. It's
Speaker 2: like they have a total loss of time. You know. Theoretically,
Speaker 2: like with this conversation we're having, do you think that
Speaker 2: that could be like a time slip portal or something
Speaker 2: to that effect.
Speaker 5: They could be. There's a story about a guy in
Speaker 5: New York I think it was Rudolph Fence, who appeared
Speaker 5: in I think it was in the nineteen thirties, and he's
Speaker 5: claimed his whole life experience and gave the police information
Speaker 5: about it. And it turns out that he disappeared like
Speaker 5: one hundred years previously from New York and all the
Speaker 5: things he talked about were true. In fact, he had
Speaker 5: old coins in his pocket and stuff like that. So
Speaker 5: he seemed to be a legitimate story of a person
Speaker 5: who traveled forward in time and he didn't know how
Speaker 5: or why, but there was some evidence showing that was true. So,
Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of strange things about time,
Speaker 5: and I think a time portal or a time curtain
Speaker 5: is a good way to describe it. One of my
Speaker 5: favorite stories that I researched is called Bold Street and Liverpool, England.
Speaker 5: Have you ever heard of it? Well, apparently Bold Street
Speaker 5: is a place in Liverpoo, the city of Liverpool and England,
Speaker 5: where a lot of people have had experiences going back
Speaker 5: and time. They might have been and it might have
Speaker 5: been in the seventies or eighties, and they went back
Speaker 5: to the nineteen fifties or at different times because a
Speaker 5: lot of the time they found stores and locations that
Speaker 5: didn't exist anymore. When they went to tell their friends
Speaker 5: and they would go back to the place and the
Speaker 5: place they'd been didn't exist anymore. And this happens in
Speaker 5: Liverpool on Bold Street multiple times. So could that be
Speaker 5: a place where the time portal or time curtain exists
Speaker 5: and is very fairly open so people can go back
Speaker 5: and experience those things. Also, another story, and this is
Speaker 5: one of the most famous ones, is about a couple
Speaker 5: of a woman who visited Versailles, and I think this
Speaker 5: was early early part of the twentieth century. The Palace
Speaker 5: of Versailles where King Louis the fourteenth used to hang
Speaker 5: out along with Marie Antoinette, and he claimed or this
Speaker 5: woman claimed that she walked around the grounds of the
Speaker 5: palace because it has extensive gardens and stuff, and then
Speaker 5: she met different people there who were dressed in eighteenth
Speaker 5: century clothing. And she came back and told some people
Speaker 5: about it, and they said, oh, that sounds like this
Speaker 5: famous historical character, and so it was. Again she seemed
Speaker 5: to have passed through a time portal and walked around
Speaker 5: in Versailles of the eighteenth century and then came back here.
Speaker 5: Another experience of a time slip or time portal that
Speaker 5: people have gone through. A lot of the stories I
Speaker 5: collected are similar to that. There was one I collected
Speaker 5: about a guy whose name was Sir Victor Goddard, and
Speaker 5: he was a pilot, and it was after World War One.
Speaker 5: I think it was about nineteen twenty five or nineteen thirty,
Speaker 5: and he was flying a RAF plane around England. And
Speaker 5: also he came upon a storm and a cloud bank,
Speaker 5: and when he came out of it, he saw an
Speaker 5: airport and he went to the airport and he landed there.
Speaker 5: It was a military airport, and the planes were all
Speaker 5: different colors, and there were planes he hadn't seen before.
Speaker 5: A lot of things that were out of character. For
Speaker 5: the time period he came from, and he went back
Speaker 5: the way he came, went through the cloud again, came
Speaker 5: out back in his time, so like ten fifteen years
Speaker 5: later he went to that field and it was all
Speaker 5: the way he'd seen it originally. And there's a lot
Speaker 5: more to the story that I'm telling, but he seemed
Speaker 5: to have again gone through a time portal, but this
Speaker 5: time it was to the future to see a future probability.
Speaker 5: And I thought that's pretty interesting. So people have a
Speaker 5: lot of these time portal experiences.
Speaker 2: Know that that might have been how they got that
Speaker 2: from that movie, the new one, the Indiana Jones, the
Speaker 2: Dial of Destiny. Have you got to see that yet?
Speaker 5: I haven't seen that yet. That could be really got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was kind of like that, and they
Speaker 2: they found the Sphere of Destiny, but basically there was
Speaker 2: a piece of a dial that was hidden inside of it,
Speaker 2: and then they could time travel with this thing. But
Speaker 2: it led them that actual device predicted electromagnetic storms and
Speaker 2: it gave coordinates and locations of these storms. So if
Speaker 2: you flew through this storm, it was like a it
Speaker 2: opened a portal.
Speaker 4: And since you.
Speaker 5: That's interesting, I got to see that movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was actually really cool. That's the first time
Speaker 2: i'd seen that. And when you was telling that story,
Speaker 2: I was like, man, that sounds similar to that that movie.
Speaker 2: That's probably where they got their inspiration from.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I see the future the pass is
Speaker 5: fairly fixed. But I see the future as multiple probabilities,
Speaker 5: multiple choices. It's like we're riding in a river current
Speaker 5: between two banks, and we can make the boat go
Speaker 5: back and forth from side to side within the river,
Speaker 5: but the general trend is unchanged, so we can pick
Speaker 5: different probable paths that we're going to follow. And I'll
Speaker 5: tell you my experience with that if you want. Yeah,
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety eight, I was I was married, I was
Speaker 5: living here in southern California, had a son who was
Speaker 5: one year old, and my ex wife, her mother, was
Speaker 5: living in Barcelona, Spain. And we also had a stepdaughter
Speaker 5: who was a teenager. So I was waiting for a
Speaker 5: new contract because I used to be an independent software
Speaker 5: consultant and I was negotiating with Boeing. And this is
Speaker 5: like in mid August in nineteen ninety eight. At the
Speaker 5: same time, has now come to think of it, And
Speaker 5: I should also mention that at that time. For several years,
Speaker 5: I felt my life was going to be cut short,
Speaker 5: that I didn't have long to live. So anyway, we
Speaker 5: negotiating to them, and we were going to go see
Speaker 5: her mother, who lived in Barcelona, and I said to her,
Speaker 5: finally after days of negotiating, that you go ahead. I
Speaker 5: will join you later. I've got to see about getting
Speaker 5: this contract, which I really wanted. And so she went.
Speaker 5: The three of them went. I stayed there, and a
Speaker 5: few days later, my head hunter says, look, Martin, you
Speaker 5: might as well go ahead. Nothing's going to happen on
Speaker 5: this for a few weeks. So I thought great, So
Speaker 5: I decided to call my travel agent. I was using
Speaker 5: a travel agent back then, in nineteen ninety eight. And
Speaker 5: I tried to pick up the phone and I barely
Speaker 5: picked it up, and I got a dark black feeling, Okay,
Speaker 5: like death. I thought wow, and I put down the
Speaker 5: phone and I tried again. A few minutes later, tried
Speaker 5: to pick it up again, the same dark black feeling.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, what is this? So I think I
Speaker 5: waited a whole day and I tried to pick it
Speaker 5: up again the next morning, tried dialing, and I couldn't
Speaker 5: do it. I thought, Oh my god, there's something wrong here,
Speaker 5: something weird. Now I'd had enough paranormal experiences, enough premonitional
Speaker 5: experiences since i'd been nineteen and here I was in
Speaker 5: my fifties that I knew something was up, that there
Speaker 5: was something I should pay attention to here. So I
Speaker 5: decided to lay down and meditate. And when I meditated,
Speaker 5: I kind of pushed myself forward to the day I
Speaker 5: was playing to leave, which was September second, nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 5: and I got a vision of a plane crash. Oh
Speaker 5: my god. So I made the decision, Look, this seems
Speaker 5: to be a real premonition. I've had these before, and
Speaker 5: it's something I have to pay attention to. And it
Speaker 5: was difficult because I really had a lot of how
Speaker 5: can I say, momentum of me wanting to be with
Speaker 5: my family in Spain, right, who wants to be alone
Speaker 5: for a few weeks when they don't have to be.
Speaker 5: But as soon as I made this decision, I felt
Speaker 5: a weight off my shoulders and I didn't feel my
Speaker 5: time on Earth was limited anymore. So I called my
Speaker 5: ex and I told her about my experience, and she's
Speaker 5: somewhat understood plush. Maybe she just didn't want me there,
Speaker 5: and I decided not to go, and I was feeling
Speaker 5: pretty stupid about it because I was just home by myself,
Speaker 5: taking care of the dog. And when a couple of
Speaker 5: days that way, and I thought this is really stupid.
Speaker 5: But then I thought back to the previous experiences I'd had.
Speaker 5: I thought, nope, I got to stick with it. I
Speaker 5: made my decision. I did so. I did finally lie
Speaker 5: down and meditated, and I thought, yeah, that's right. Okay,
Speaker 5: So time goes on. A couple of weeks, September second
Speaker 5: rolls around and one of the likely flights I would
Speaker 5: have been on, Swiss Air, crashed off the coast of Newfoundland,
Speaker 5: killing a couple hundred people. That was likely the flight
Speaker 5: I would have been on. There's no way for me
Speaker 5: to prove it because I didn't even buy a ticket.
Speaker 5: But I really believe that this premonition saved my life
Speaker 5: because I followed my feelings of concern about dying and
Speaker 5: avoided that probable future.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's wild. High school, one of my ex girlfriends
Speaker 2: in what she was my first wife. She was like that.
Speaker 2: I remember two thousand and one, I was a sophomore
Speaker 2: in high school and she was a freshman, and she
Speaker 2: was one of those people. She could feel things and
Speaker 2: sense things for they happened. And when she would tell
Speaker 2: me these things, at first, I was like, ah, she's
Speaker 2: just full of it. You know. She ate some bad
Speaker 2: pizza and it was funny. I was thinking about breaking
Speaker 2: up with her, and we were in the hallway talking
Speaker 2: before class, and she does she just looks at me
Speaker 2: and she's like, you're fixing a break up with me,
Speaker 2: aren't you, like out of nowhere, like totally freaked me out.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, what are you talking about? And she's like, no,
Speaker 2: you're thinking about breaking up with me. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're being silly, you know. Of course, inside I'm like
Speaker 2: freaking out. And then it wasn't even sixty seconds later.
Speaker 2: She starts looking down and she's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I feel sick, you know. And I'm like, well, you're
Speaker 2: gonna be all right. She said, something bad's about to happen,
Speaker 2: something really really bad is about to happen. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're fine, you know, it's whatever. Went to class, and
Speaker 2: then it was like thirty minutes later, they come over
Speaker 2: the intercom. Planes have just crashed into the Towers of
Speaker 2: New York were under attack, and I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, felt.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. People have lots of feelings of future outcomes.
Speaker 5: And that's why, even if it's pretty far in the
Speaker 5: future as possible, major events seem to send ripples through
Speaker 5: time to many years before they happen, and people can
Speaker 5: sense that. It's amazing.
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Speaker 2: we actually started recording, and the people that listen to
Speaker 2: the show know because I mentioned this all the time,
Speaker 2: some of the coolest stories come out before I hit record.
Speaker 2: You were talking about some experiences you had around nine
Speaker 2: to eleven. Also, you care to retell that story?
Speaker 5: I'll repeat this story. Sure. So my family used to
Speaker 5: live in New Jersey and I was in college. It
Speaker 5: was the summer and I used to go into New
Speaker 5: York City and you go to Hoboken and then you
Speaker 5: take the path tubes under the Hudson River and come
Speaker 5: up in the World Trade Center. Now they were still
Speaker 5: building the World Trade Center, but all the path tubes
Speaker 5: go through there and you take subways to go to
Speaker 5: other locations in the city. So I had some time,
Speaker 5: and I was curious. So even though the World Trade
Speaker 5: Center towers were still in the process of being built,
Speaker 5: I thought to myself, how far up can I go
Speaker 5: in one? And I got in an elevator and I
Speaker 5: went all the way up to about the fiftieth floor,
Speaker 5: and then I went out of the elevator and walked around.
Speaker 5: It was a room that was finished, but it was empty.
Speaker 5: There were no business or partitions or deaths or anything
Speaker 5: in there. And I walked over and looked through the
Speaker 5: window at the view, which was pretty good. And then
Speaker 5: I walked over to a column that's about nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 5: and I held to the column, and I was just
Speaker 5: learning about premonish no perceptions and things. And I held
Speaker 5: the column and I thought, building, how long will you last?
Speaker 5: And I thought it would be a couple hundred years.
Speaker 5: And the answer I got back was twenty five years.
Speaker 5: And of course that was twenty five years before nine
Speaker 5: to eleven, and I hadn't thought about it until that happened,
Speaker 5: So anyway, a separate event, it's related to nine to eleven.
Speaker 5: I was visiting my sister in New York. She had
Speaker 5: a little toddler and we did too, and we're walking
Speaker 5: them around in baby carriages and we're down in the
Speaker 5: Financial District this September of two thousand and we're walking
Speaker 5: next to the World Trade Center, and my ex I
Speaker 5: was married to then was also pretty psychic, said, oh,
Speaker 5: I feel this awful death. What are you talking about?
Speaker 5: A lot of people are going to die here, Martin,
Speaker 5: A lot of people are going to die. And again
Speaker 5: that was just a year before it happened in the
Speaker 5: same location. So that's why I think of major events,
Speaker 5: especially throw out a lot of ripples in time. And
Speaker 5: the thing is, major events are very solidly embedded in time,
Speaker 5: and it's not something we could easily change. So I
Speaker 5: don't even try on the big ones. But I've had
Speaker 5: other lots of other experiences. One was in two thousand
Speaker 5: and three. I think it was let me look up
Speaker 5: something real quick. I want to see when this happened.
Speaker 5: So in the year of two thousand and four, I
Speaker 5: started having a lot of dreams and in those dreams
Speaker 5: I'd be in a tropical resort and on the beach
Speaker 5: or in a pool, and all of a sudden, this
Speaker 5: big tsunami would come in and I'd be covered in it,
Speaker 5: and I knew I had died. And it wasn't just
Speaker 5: one resort was I had like this dream ten different times,
Speaker 5: and it was always a different resort, and I thought,
Speaker 5: my God, what is going on here? And I felt
Speaker 5: in almost all those cases I had died. And of
Speaker 5: course this was before the major tsunami in the Indian Ocean,
Speaker 5: which I think was in two thousand and four, in December, yeah,
Speaker 5: December twenty sixth two thousand and four. So I think
Speaker 5: what happened is that major world event, which by the way,
Speaker 5: was one of the deadliest tsunamis of all time. This
Speaker 5: estimated probably killed two hundred and fifty thousand people all
Speaker 5: around the Indian Ocean. I actually since that tsunami in
Speaker 5: many months ahead of time, and that's why I had
Speaker 5: all those dreams. So, I mean, people have other examples
Speaker 5: of that type of thing. That was a major one
Speaker 5: for me. I'll give you another interesting story which is
Speaker 5: not quite time related, but it also shows how if
Speaker 5: your mind is open and you can receive impressions from people.
Speaker 5: This gives you a good example of what can happen
Speaker 5: and why you have to sometimes close your mind to
Speaker 5: external impressions. Is that okay? Yeah? Yeah, all right. So
Speaker 5: I used to live here on the Palace Artist Peninsula
Speaker 5: in an apartment complex near the cliffs, and I would
Speaker 5: often go down and take a walk on the cliffs
Speaker 5: around a resort called Terranea and back. It was like
Speaker 5: a two mile walk, and I would do this, I
Speaker 5: don't know, several times a week. It was a nice walk,
Speaker 5: beautiful view and all this type of thing. So one
Speaker 5: day I'm walking down the path towards the cliff and
Speaker 5: it's like an open field and I'm just floating. I'm
Speaker 5: not thinking about anything really, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: I had these strong impression that I should jump from
Speaker 5: the cliff. I thought, what the heck, And I got
Speaker 5: closer to the cliff and the impressions kept coming, and
Speaker 5: I thought, oh my god, this is weird. I was
Speaker 5: not suicidal, and I'd never thought about jumping. And I
Speaker 5: get to the cliff path and I looked down the
Speaker 5: path and several hundred yards down the path there was
Speaker 5: a place where a woman had jumped to her death
Speaker 5: the month before, and there was a gathering of people
Speaker 5: looked like her friends and family standing there holding a service,
Speaker 5: and I feared, oh my god, I'm picking up their
Speaker 5: impressions from hundreds of yards away. That's what they were
Speaker 5: thinking about. They were thinking about her jumping off the cliff,
Speaker 5: and I picked it up. And after that I felt
Speaker 5: normal again. I realized it was just I was just
Speaker 5: being open to the thoughts they were so we can
Speaker 5: be open to a lot of the people around us,
Speaker 5: like your girlfriend was to you, and we could learn
Speaker 5: what other people, you know, the thoughts of other people are having,
Speaker 5: and they can affect us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to some people, I mean, this sounds like
Speaker 2: you know, X men, you know, fantasy stuff, but if
Speaker 2: you actually go to look in I mean the government
Speaker 2: government was conducting these type of experiments and exercises back
Speaker 2: in the sixties.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they had a program, I forget the name of it,
Speaker 7: but they would do remote viewing of Soviet missile sites
Speaker 7: and other sites to try and use it for intelligence gathering.
Speaker 5: I think it was back in the nineteen seventies and
Speaker 5: a lot of the famous scientists who study the parent.
Speaker 8: L today had involvement in that program.
Speaker 5: Anyway. No, I'm getting off the track of time and
Speaker 5: dimensional travel. But my research and experiences and let me
Speaker 5: to some other conclusions if you'd like to hear them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: So one of the things the studies I did were
Speaker 5: about Bigfoot, and.
Speaker 2: I know, now we're talking. What okay, So now we're talking.
Speaker 5: So I looked up a lot of research on it,
Speaker 5: a lot of stories about Bigfoot. I even found a
Speaker 5: map from sightings for the last I don't know, hundred years,
Speaker 5: and there's like several thousand sightings on this map all
Speaker 5: over North America. I couldn't believe it. But there's a
Speaker 5: huge number of people who've seen Bigfoot, who you know,
Speaker 5: at least as some type of giant ate, maybe the
Speaker 5: historical ape called Gigantic Gigantic Picathus. Nobody knows for sure.
Speaker 5: But if there's so many sightings, and I think most
Speaker 5: of them were probably valid, how come it's so hard
Speaker 5: to find and he remains a Bigfoot? And I have
Speaker 5: other read other side stories of a Bigfoot family that
Speaker 5: lived on in the woods on a farm in Texas,
Speaker 5: and different simple shelters made by bigfoots but nobody can
Speaker 5: seem to find them. So this plus some other thing
Speaker 5: other things like these large historical birds. Let me look
Speaker 5: this up. I did a whole book about thunderbirds in Arizona.
Speaker 2: They seeing terodactyls and stuff, and was counting them thunderbe.
Speaker 5: People see pterodactyls and other birds that didn't that haven't
Speaker 5: lived since the dinosaur age, flying around and nobody can
Speaker 5: find a nest or find the source of them. So
Speaker 5: the more I've thought about this, and the more I've
Speaker 5: read the experiences that other people have, I've come to
Speaker 5: believe there's a good chance that the real bigfoots and
Speaker 5: the real thunderbirds may have some cross dimensional capabilities, and
Speaker 5: maybe they live in another dimension, and maybe they come
Speaker 5: over here sometimes, and maybe it's even a conscious ability.
Speaker 5: I mean, you take the stories of the Twatha and
Speaker 5: de Donna no I mentioned earlier, the historical race that
Speaker 5: said they came from another world. Those were beings that
Speaker 5: said they had the ability to cross dimensions. So what
Speaker 5: if a lot of the animals, the cryptozoological animals that
Speaker 5: we see really have their homes in another dimension, and
Speaker 5: what if they actually have the ability to cross dimensions?
Speaker 5: Because there's more and more evidence accumulating that there are
Speaker 5: stories of not only humans, but other beings who have
Speaker 5: gone back and forth between different dimensions. That's why I
Speaker 5: think there are dimensional portals as well as time portals,
Speaker 5: and maybe sometimes there are some of both. But it's
Speaker 5: interesting when because the more stories I looked up and
Speaker 5: the more research I did on other areas of interest
Speaker 5: of odd zoological things, the more I started having thoughts
Speaker 5: about this, And that's maybe how they're related.
Speaker 2: Well with your research. Is it all just a spiritual
Speaker 2: thing or like a mental thing, or do you actually
Speaker 2: think there's some nets and bolts technology, because I know
Speaker 2: some people theorize that, you know, the government actually has,
Speaker 2: you know, a time machine because and I mentioned to
Speaker 2: pre Roll and I'll bring it up because a lot
Speaker 2: of my listeners will be familiar with it. But the
Speaker 2: author's name was in drisk Lockwood, and he wrote a
Speaker 2: series of books in the early nineteen hundreds about Baron
Speaker 2: Trump and that he was a time traveler, that his
Speaker 2: uncle made this machine and you know, there's like three
Speaker 2: novels in there, and his dad ends up becoming president,
Speaker 2: and I mean it's pretty you know stories.
Speaker 5: Firstly, I think it's premonitions. Again, we can see different
Speaker 5: tracks in the future, and I think he probably had
Speaker 5: premonitions of a certain track where Trump is president has
Speaker 5: a son named Baron. That's my own opinion because I
Speaker 5: don't know that any technology existed back then in spite
Speaker 5: of the time machine by HG. Wells. I don't know
Speaker 5: that if any technology existed back then or even exists
Speaker 5: now to allow us to do what it will with
Speaker 5: a machine. But that's my own opinion. I could be wrong.
Speaker 5: So well.
Speaker 2: One thing that was wild with it, though, was you
Speaker 2: look through history, it was Donald Trump's uncle, uh was
Speaker 2: like this super genius guy from M I. T. And Nick.
Speaker 2: When Nikola Tesla died, the FBI had him go and
Speaker 2: search through Tesla's documents, and when they went through the
Speaker 2: documents and his journals and stuff, there's those famous missing pages.
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of conspiracy theorists say that, you know,
Speaker 2: Donald's brother from M I. T, where he had first DIBs,
Speaker 2: might have stole those and that might have been the
Speaker 2: time machine, and that's where these books come from.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say it's impossible. I'm just going
Speaker 5: to say, based on my own experience and research, by
Speaker 5: my opinion, lends more toward premonitions of those events. But
Speaker 5: is there some way to control time curtains? I mean,
Speaker 5: I know time curtains exist, or time portals. Is there
Speaker 5: some way to open that electronically and go through and
Speaker 5: come back? I don't know, maybe that's true. I'm not
Speaker 5: going to rule out anything unless it's totally contradicted, but yeah,
Speaker 5: that's possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just thought that was interesting. I wanted to
Speaker 2: peak your brain on it because it doesn't just sounds fantastical,
Speaker 2: but then you find these little nuggets that connect them
Speaker 2: with Tesla and things like that. I just thought it
Speaker 2: was kind of fascinating.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's why I think our reality is full
Speaker 5: of holes. It's full of membranes, full of portals, and
Speaker 5: they're very it's very hard to find them, so they
Speaker 5: have never been scientifically studied, but they have a major
Speaker 5: effect on our lives, and other beings probably interact with
Speaker 5: us through those membranes, through those portals, and so there's
Speaker 5: lots of possibilities there. So I think we need to
Speaker 5: be open minded to the possibility of all these things.
Speaker 5: But I also believe Oham's razor. You're familiar with Okham's razor.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, the simplest answer is usually the answer.
Speaker 5: Exactly the simplest answer. Now in this case, I don't
Speaker 5: know if there is a simple answer. Yeah. That's why
Speaker 5: the whole subject of time and dimensions is so fascinating
Speaker 5: to me. I've written some sci fi books on the topic,
Speaker 5: and you know, there's all sorts of possible things that
Speaker 5: people theorize by about time and dimensions, and we just
Speaker 5: don't really know the only thing I know from my
Speaker 5: own experience is that time can fracture into multiple potentials,
Speaker 5: multiple possibilities. Actually, that's where I think the idea of
Speaker 5: we have a certain momentum comes in. We have a momentum.
Speaker 5: You know what momentum is. It's the tendency of you
Speaker 5: to keep moving in a certain direction. We have a
Speaker 5: momentum to keep moving down a certain time path, a
Speaker 5: certain path. And there are these other possibilities out there,
Speaker 5: but they are less likely. But through force of will,
Speaker 5: we can turn. And that's what happened to me, I
Speaker 5: think in the airplane crash case, where through force of will,
Speaker 5: I was able to turn myself to not take that
Speaker 5: plane flight, which is why I'm still alive today. But
Speaker 5: it takes a lot of power of will to do that,
Speaker 5: because there's a momentum to keep going another way, and
Speaker 5: that's what I wanted to do. I really wanted to
Speaker 5: be with my family for obvious reasons. So interesting thing.
Speaker 5: That's why I say our will, the direction of our
Speaker 5: will affects our future. And that's why a lot of
Speaker 5: the visualizations that people do towards a certain outcome can
Speaker 5: make a difference. I have somewhat of an example of that.
Speaker 5: It's not a total example, but I'll tell you this.
Speaker 5: Back in two thousand and one, the world looked like
Speaker 5: after nine to eleven it might be on the verge
Speaker 5: of a great tragedy. So behind my house in Palace URTIs,
Speaker 5: I had a little hillside and I thought, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm going to build a bomb shelter, just because I
Speaker 5: could do it and I had a lot of free time.
Speaker 5: So I started digging out a place of the hillside
Speaker 5: and using power tools and drills to dig through some rock,
Speaker 5: and I was thinking about the type of shelter I
Speaker 5: wanted to build. So I started visualizing a design and
Speaker 5: I kept visualizing it every day. Several times a day,
Speaker 5: and I kept visualizing it for week space and then
Speaker 5: finally I just got this feeling, Okay, I've done enough
Speaker 5: visualizing it's going to happen. So basically it happened. I
Speaker 5: did not hire a contractor. I did it myself with
Speaker 5: some workmen that I hired, you know, laid out what
Speaker 5: the building would be built, built cinder blocks, built concrete
Speaker 5: roof to it, and set up water tanks and everything
Speaker 5: else in it, plus pipes for electricity and stuff going
Speaker 5: into it. Anyway, to me, it was I picked that
Speaker 5: future that I wanted to happen, and I kept visualizing it,
Speaker 5: and the energy that I was putting into that future
Speaker 5: helped make it reality, help make it become a real thing.
Speaker 5: And I believe we can do that in our lives
Speaker 5: with our goals. And then the technique people always talk
Speaker 5: about and know or in then know about this is
Speaker 5: not to say you think it will happen, but you
Speaker 5: visualize the outcome like it has already happened, and this
Speaker 5: pulls the energy and the tendency to be in that
Speaker 5: direction towards that goal. So that's why I think reality
Speaker 5: is very malleable. And I wrote about that how malleable
Speaker 5: reality is and exercises you can do to modify your
Speaker 5: own reality. And in fact, one of the weird thoughts
Speaker 5: I've had, if you want to hear a weird thought,
Speaker 5: is that as we go forward in our lives, we
Speaker 5: may choose a path if as long as we want
Speaker 5: to live, which most of us do, which goes in
Speaker 5: a specific direction as certain outcomes, and other people may.
Speaker 5: I believe other people can disappear from the world and
Speaker 5: other things can happen, but that our path and our
Speaker 5: will creates our own reality, and we may keep going
Speaker 5: when to somebody else already died or disappeared. But we're
Speaker 5: on our own path, and our path create is the
Speaker 5: reality that we want to be in. What do you
Speaker 5: think of that?
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely mean, because you know it's all with the
Speaker 2: perspective and perception. Some people will just call that. What's
Speaker 2: the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 5: Visualization?
Speaker 2: Yeah, visualization and mind over matter and free will. You know,
Speaker 2: we all have that, that that choice, and it's just
Speaker 2: some people are more mentally strong and I don't know,
Speaker 2: no visualization.
Speaker 5: It's happened to me in one path. I died in
Speaker 5: a plane crash in nineteen ninety eight and the path
Speaker 5: I'm on now, I'm still going strong. And this is
Speaker 5: how many years later, twenty six years later. So if
Speaker 5: I want to keep going, I keep visualizing that I
Speaker 5: keep going. Who knows what else may be able to
Speaker 5: do in my life.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and stuff like that is scientifically tested. I mean,
Speaker 2: like that, they've done tests on plants. You know. Plants
Speaker 2: to us is just just a plant. They don't have
Speaker 2: a soul, or they don't think, or you know, or
Speaker 2: any of this thing. It's they're not aware. But they'll
Speaker 2: play like heavy metal rock music and curse at it
Speaker 2: and say negative things to it, and they'll wilt and
Speaker 2: die or their growth will stunt. And then they'll take
Speaker 2: the same type of plant and at the same time
Speaker 2: in another room be playing classical mozart and speaking words
Speaker 2: of power to it, that it's beautiful and it's going
Speaker 2: to grow so big, you know, and give it words
Speaker 2: of affirmation, and this thing grows twice as fast and
Speaker 2: as big as a plant without the verbal affirmations and music.
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, speaking of that and consciousness. Although I
Speaker 5: was raised in the church as a Presbyterian, a Methodist,
Speaker 5: even went through all the Confirmation and everything. As I
Speaker 5: read more in my late teens and twenties about different
Speaker 5: religions and Eastern religions and learning meditation and the spiritual
Speaker 5: development from that, I came to believe, which is more
Speaker 5: of an Eastern belief, but I'm not part of any
Speaker 5: Eastern religion, that everything in our world is conscious, that
Speaker 5: a rock you might hold up is conscious, that everything
Speaker 5: has a different frequency of vibration. Now, talking about plants,
Speaker 5: I have gone to large forests like Sequoia National Forest
Speaker 5: here in California, or the Redwood Tree for Redrod Tree
Speaker 5: Forest and sat at the base of a large tree
Speaker 5: that was thousands of years old, and I went a
Speaker 5: new meditative state and felt I communed with it, that
Speaker 5: it had a very slow consciousness, that had lots of wisdom,
Speaker 5: and that I could very I could communicate with it.
Speaker 5: I know other people have tried to do this type
Speaker 5: of thing also, but it makes sense to me that
Speaker 5: everything is conscious. But yes, we do have a spirit
Speaker 5: inside of us, an eternal spirit as part of the
Speaker 5: spirit connected to everyone and everything else in our universe.
Speaker 5: And so yes, when people talk about plants having things
Speaker 5: happen with them that seem to be conscious, I say
Speaker 5: that's because they are conscious. They're on a different wavelength,
Speaker 5: they're in a different frequency, but they are conscious and alive,
Speaker 5: same thing with all animals, and if we can tune
Speaker 5: into that, that can be quite an experience. I know
Speaker 5: I'm getting off the subject of time, but I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, I've been say consciousness is very closely related
Speaker 5: to all this because it's consciousness. It lets us perceive time,
Speaker 5: and it's consciousness that can change the time stream that
Speaker 5: we're on. And son, you have to ask how much
Speaker 5: of our universe of time and space and dimensions is
Speaker 5: all created by a consciousness and maintained by different consciousnesses.
Speaker 5: And that's why, Yes, it is definitely related. And it's
Speaker 5: kind of the kind of thing that will probably never
Speaker 5: be proven or disproven through science because of scientist Some.
Speaker 2: People too, I know, like Christians. Christians this kind of talk,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm painting with a broadbrush, but some of
Speaker 2: them this will throw up red flags and freak them
Speaker 2: out right. But it's a biblical theme also because if
Speaker 2: you get into your Bible, it talks about life and death.
Speaker 2: Lie in the power of the tongue, talks about speaking
Speaker 2: you know, good things and not to speak curses. And
Speaker 2: a lot of people in this modern era look at
Speaker 2: that and say, oh, then you're not to take the
Speaker 2: Lord's name in vain. You're not to say any of
Speaker 2: those four letters swear words. That's not what it's talking about.
Speaker 2: It's talking about saying I hate you, or I I
Speaker 2: suck or I'm stupid. Saying these things are speaking curses
Speaker 2: over you or whoever that you're speaking to. Yes, my
Speaker 2: father prime example, which he was wild and his decision
Speaker 2: shortened his life. But my mother told me that he
Speaker 2: constantly said, I won't live to see thirty. I won't
Speaker 2: live to see thirty, and he never did.
Speaker 5: Well, that was he visualized his end. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry to hear that. But some people do that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: some people put a limit on their lives and they
Speaker 5: meet that limit. So, in fact, one of the things
Speaker 5: I teach in my longevity course is you have to
Speaker 5: have a you have to have a belief that you
Speaker 5: can live a long time, that you're not going to
Speaker 5: die at a certain age like seventy or eighty. And
Speaker 5: if you have that belief and you have a visualized
Speaker 5: goal of what you want to do with your life,
Speaker 5: you have a much better chance of getting there. So yeah,
Speaker 5: But that's why all these things are so fascinating to me,
Speaker 5: because we try and make sense of the reality we
Speaker 5: live in, but it's a heck of a lot more complex,
Speaker 5: and we have any idea. We have the hubris to
Speaker 5: think we're so smart that we've unlocked the power of
Speaker 5: the atom, the nuclear energy. And I'm an engineer, by
Speaker 5: the way, and I train in nuclear engineering. But we
Speaker 5: only know a tiny, tiny little bit about life and
Speaker 5: about reality, and yet we blow ourselves up to think
Speaker 5: we know everything and we don't. And here I'll get
Speaker 5: into a pert My one of my personal pet peeves
Speaker 5: is we think we're so powerful that we can affect
Speaker 5: the climate Earth, but there's constant evidence that that's not true.
Speaker 5: And it's hubris. It's just strictly egotistical hubris to think
Speaker 5: that we can affect the climate on Earth and effective
Speaker 5: for the good or bad. It's so the whole I
Speaker 5: believe that what Trump calls the the green new scam,
Speaker 5: that's what it is. I believe that we really don't
Speaker 5: have that type of effect on our world. We'd like
Speaker 5: to think we do, but we're not as important as
Speaker 5: we think we are. In fact, I would maintain this
Speaker 5: gets into our last discussion about OPA's that there are
Speaker 5: many civilizations, human and nonhuman that lived on Earth many
Speaker 5: thousands or million of years before us, and they all
Speaker 5: eventually disappeared, and we're the latest one of those. Hopefully
Speaker 5: we could last longer, but who knows. It's too early
Speaker 5: to say. Yep.
Speaker 2: A lot of people want to see time is as linear.
Speaker 2: But the more that I read these ancient texts and
Speaker 2: these cultures, and all of them talk about cycles, you know,
Speaker 2: and the things wind down to an end, some kind
Speaker 2: of great cataclysm happens and then boom, it's as Klaus
Speaker 2: Schwabs as the Great Reset. So it's like time is.
Speaker 2: The more that I read and study, it seems like
Speaker 2: it's circular instead of linear.
Speaker 5: It could be the ancient Indians in the India seem
Speaker 5: to know a lot about metaphysics, about time and space
Speaker 5: and dimensions. One of my favorite texts is Yoga Sutra
Speaker 5: is a patch and jolly, have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 2: I've heard of it, but I've not read it.
Speaker 5: It's about two thousand year old. It's four books written
Speaker 5: in Sanskrit, which is a highly condensed language. In fact,
Speaker 5: you can find it translated on the Internet in multiple versions. Basically,
Speaker 5: what people do is they take the Sanskrit text, they
Speaker 5: convert it phonetically so you can speak it. Then they
Speaker 5: convert the meanings of each of the symbols, which ends
Speaker 5: up being a couple of lines, and then they have
Speaker 5: a multi page exposition on the meaning of it. But
Speaker 5: the whole idea is it described. It was written two
Speaker 5: thousand years ago, and it describes the universe and describes
Speaker 5: consciousness and the path for enlightenment, the path for read
Speaker 5: it Chink cosmic consciousness, and one of those four books
Speaker 5: is all about paranormal abilities and how those are a
Speaker 5: side effects of the spiritual development process. That's why I
Speaker 5: found it. It's the most scientific exposition I've seen on
Speaker 5: consciousness and the paranormal. In fact, I base a lot
Speaker 5: of my books on that topic on that book because
Speaker 5: it's so intelligent about all this. But it gets into
Speaker 5: the illusions of time and dimensions and how they're not
Speaker 5: as solid as we might think, and how through consciousness
Speaker 5: we can overcome that. There used to be saints, Catholic saints,
Speaker 5: we had many of these abilities, like saints who would
Speaker 5: appear in multiple places at one time. And how could
Speaker 5: they do that except their consciousness seemed to be able
Speaker 5: to override the limitations of their physical body. I don't know,
Speaker 5: I could keep.
Speaker 2: I can't remember that guy's name, but I've heard that
Speaker 2: in like a podcast or something, that this guy was
Speaker 2: such a menace to the church that they actually like
Speaker 2: locked him like in a prison on one of the
Speaker 2: communion days and like you you're not going to partake
Speaker 2: in the communion. And he was locked in there under
Speaker 2: constant supervision. But multiple witnesses at various different church which
Speaker 2: is across the country, all vouched and verified that he
Speaker 2: was there leading the communion and got the cup and
Speaker 2: the cracker from him.
Speaker 5: That's right. He Uh, he appeared in multiple places at
Speaker 5: one time. Doppel gangers they call him, and uh and
Speaker 5: uh these things have things happened?
Speaker 4: Mhm Uh?
Speaker 5: What else can I say about time and dimensions? I
Speaker 5: think our technology is not necessarily limited to our own
Speaker 5: solar system. I think eventually we will be able to
Speaker 5: transfer our bodies into other solar systems by going faster
Speaker 5: than light. We just don't don't know the technology yet.
Speaker 5: Although I shouldn't say that entirely. One of the former
Speaker 5: heads of the Lockheed Skunk Works said, we now have
Speaker 5: the technology to go to the stars, so it probably exists,
Speaker 5: but it's very secret.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we're always like one hundred years behind whatever
Speaker 2: the Yeah, the ones with all the power have.
Speaker 5: Yes, and so yeah, times are really interesting. What other
Speaker 5: books that I've written on the subject? I wrote one
Speaker 5: about quantum mechanics. One of the most interesting things in
Speaker 5: quantum mechanics is what is called quantum teleportation, And what
Speaker 5: that really is is that the properties of a particle
Speaker 5: can be the same, and they can be separated by
Speaker 5: long distances, maybe miles or millions of miles away. But
Speaker 5: if you if you change the properties on one part,
Speaker 5: the other part reacts in the same way, and it
Speaker 5: seems to happen instantaneously, not controlled by the speed of light.
Speaker 5: So physicists theorize that being the case, that might be
Speaker 5: the basis of a communication link to let us talk
Speaker 5: instantaneously or communicate instantaneously with somebody else, no matter where
Speaker 5: they're located. So what does that mean about time? What
Speaker 5: does that mean about the speed of transit? It says
Speaker 5: that quantum mechanics is saying that If this is true,
Speaker 5: which measurement current measurements seem to show that it is
Speaker 5: that the speed of light is not a limiting factor
Speaker 5: to communicating over great distances, that quantum mechanics is much
Speaker 5: more subtle, and that the things we know about time
Speaker 5: from different physicists like Einstein are really only part of
Speaker 5: the answer.
Speaker 2: Wellieve the phantom limbs that comes to my mind when
Speaker 2: you're when you're talking about that, You know, phantom limbs
Speaker 2: that you hear about these military vets and different people
Speaker 2: that sever a leg or an arm, and it's ten
Speaker 2: fifteen years later, and they're still getting pains or feelings,
Speaker 2: and you know from this limb that's no longer there,
Speaker 2: like it's still communicating.
Speaker 5: They may still have a theorical body or consciousness attached
Speaker 5: to them where that missing limbit is that they can
Speaker 5: feel still. No, I don't know the answers. I just
Speaker 5: like to ask questions.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: That's why I tell people, I said, you know people,
Speaker 2: it tells you they got it all figured out. Man,
Speaker 2: you better run, because an honest person will tell you
Speaker 2: they got a lot more questions than answers.
Speaker 5: Yeah. In fact, the more I've learned, the more questions
Speaker 5: I have, And that's the more I've learned, the more
Speaker 5: experiences I've had, the more books I've written. I just
Speaker 5: believe that we're just touching the beginning of knowledge, and
Speaker 5: there's so much more to learn. I can see us
Speaker 5: evolving for thousands or millions of years and still not
Speaker 5: knowing all that there is to know. In fact, one
Speaker 5: of the differences I've got in my opinion about the
Speaker 5: enlightenment process is this. Some people claim enlightenment happens to
Speaker 5: them and that's it. That's the end. You know, they've
Speaker 5: got that cosmic consciousness, they're all done. I happen to
Speaker 5: believe that enlightenment. Again, not everybody believes in enlightenment anyway,
Speaker 5: but I have had enough experiences to rising higher level
Speaker 5: of consciousness where I believe that the more we rise
Speaker 5: to a higher level of consciousness, the more we see
Speaker 5: that there's other levels to go. We never reach the
Speaker 5: plateau because it's a infinite objective and all we can
Speaker 5: do is keep working at it and have an interesting
Speaker 5: life in the meantime. I don't know if that makes
Speaker 5: any sense to you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it does. Yeah, you work so hard to
Speaker 2: make it to the door to open it, thinking you've
Speaker 2: made it to the masters sweep. But now you're in
Speaker 2: the bathroom and there's another door.
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly what other questions do you have or do
Speaker 5: you have topics do you want to talk about?
Speaker 2: Hey, whatever you want to go into. Man, as long
Speaker 2: as you've got the time to talk. I just want
Speaker 2: to be respectful of your time. I know you had
Speaker 2: to wait on me. Where I got the times mixed
Speaker 2: up there?
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think here, I'm looking at some of
Speaker 5: my book titles and tables. The contents now one of
Speaker 5: the interesting sets of experiences that people have had with
Speaker 5: alternative dimensions. And I found these by checking Reddit and
Speaker 5: other places on the internet, and people say, oh, no,
Speaker 5: you can't believe that it's garbage. You know. The way
Speaker 5: I actually I do a lot of my research because
Speaker 5: on far out topics is I try to find places
Speaker 5: where there are discussions on specific topics because in most cases,
Speaker 5: people are telling things that really happened to them. They're
Speaker 5: not making stuff up. They're telling things that really happened
Speaker 5: to them because it just fascinated them in their lives.
Speaker 5: So a lot of these information I collected in this
Speaker 5: book are about stories where people were in their car
Speaker 5: traveling somewhere and they ended up somewhere else that doesn't
Speaker 5: exist on our world. Like some girls who were traveling
Speaker 5: through a mountain road and they were teenagers, and they
Speaker 5: came to a roadside stop and when they looked at it,
Speaker 5: it didn't look right, and there were people who looked
Speaker 5: like aliens from the stop and weird looking cars, and
Speaker 5: they did not get out. Sometimes people will get out
Speaker 5: and all the stops are different. Anyway, they wanted to.
Speaker 2: Get at it. His last name was what was it,
Speaker 2: Jeff Wallace or Travis, the guy from that movie Ring
Speaker 2: of Fire. You remember that back in the day, all right,
Speaker 2: They saw the UFO and he gets out and has
Speaker 2: to stand up underneath it and look at it and
Speaker 2: check it out, and he ended up getting abducted. Some
Speaker 2: people are just more curious than others.
Speaker 5: Yes, anyway, So these girls turn around and go back
Speaker 5: through this desert road and then back in the normal
Speaker 5: time space continuum. But there's a lot of stories like that,
Speaker 5: or somebody who wakes up and they find that the
Speaker 5: colors of everything are wrong, or the headlines on newspapers
Speaker 5: are wrong. Stuff like that. It just doesn't seem to
Speaker 5: be the right world and the reason, and they can
Speaker 5: tell us that is somehow they got back here. But
Speaker 5: sometimes people come to our world and things are strange
Speaker 5: for them because it's the way it was in their world.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of these types of stories people
Speaker 5: who transitioned and seem to end up in a world
Speaker 5: that doesn't make any sense to them in terms of
Speaker 5: the common sense of how life has normally lived in
Speaker 5: their own world. It seems to be more common than
Speaker 5: people who admit because think about it, if you came
Speaker 5: from a world you wake up one morning where all
Speaker 5: the colors are different, all the logos are different, the
Speaker 5: TV shows are different. Are you going to sit there
Speaker 5: and tell your family that this has happened to you
Speaker 5: or are you just going to hide it? Most people,
Speaker 5: I say, would hide it until they get used to it,
Speaker 5: and they're just going to say the old world they
Speaker 5: thought they were part of is just a bad dream.
Speaker 5: So I think it's actually fairly common that people transition
Speaker 5: through dimensions, but they don't want to report it because
Speaker 5: they'll be considered too strange or taken to an insane asylum. Yeah,
Speaker 5: communicated life is insane. We just don't realize it.
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, or we're just as crazy. We're all crazy
Speaker 2: and we just don't recognize the insanity of everything.
Speaker 5: That's right. That's right. I've written books about insanity too.
Speaker 5: I remember seeing a movie shown by a psychologist in
Speaker 5: college of insane people, and one of the guys was
Speaker 5: saying his thoughts were turning into insects. And I've thought
Speaker 5: about that for a number of years. How could your
Speaker 5: thoughts returning into an insect? Seems very strange. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: then you think of you think about things like thought forms,
Speaker 5: which are thought forms that can create reality, and maybe
Speaker 5: we were some link to that. But the whole idea
Speaker 5: that our thoughts can turn into other things makes some
Speaker 5: sense if you believe that your thoughts and your willpower
Speaker 5: can create reality. So anyway, I explore these ideas, some
Speaker 5: of which are pretty insane, but they interest me and
Speaker 5: they're the basis for some of my books.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing. If you're wanting to if
Speaker 2: you're a curious mind and you're wanting to learn new
Speaker 2: things and explore things, you have to have an open
Speaker 2: mind and be willing to hear people's stories and opinions
Speaker 2: on things. Or you're never going to stumble across anything,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like you don't have to take
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of what somebody's telling you. You know,
Speaker 2: you can separate the meat from the bones and kind
Speaker 2: of put your viewpoint logic together.
Speaker 5: I lived in Dallas year and a half. In fact,
Speaker 5: I just recently came back here to California, and I
Speaker 5: was doing uber driving in Dallas to make extra money.
Speaker 5: And I had a lot of riders where the subject
Speaker 5: would come up with a paranormal or strange experiences and
Speaker 5: they could tell I was open to it, and they
Speaker 5: tell me about their experience, their experiences, many of which
Speaker 5: they had never even told their family You're best friends
Speaker 5: because they were too afraid to say anything. But people
Speaker 5: have had experiences in their lives, strange experiences which they
Speaker 5: don't want to relate to anybody for afraid of being
Speaker 5: called strange or crazy. It's amazing how many people out
Speaker 5: there are like that. It's very common. Actually, people don't
Speaker 5: want to be considered abnormal. But my focus on my
Speaker 5: life is the abnormal. The focus of my life is
Speaker 5: the strange and out of the box. So I don't
Speaker 5: worry about what people think of me because I know
Speaker 5: who I am and I know I know the light
Speaker 5: I want to shed on the world, and I don't
Speaker 5: let people intimidate me. Is that strange, I don't know,
Speaker 5: But that's the way I think.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say strange. It's against the grain, you know,
Speaker 2: it's against the hard mentality and the hard wold. But
Speaker 2: I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I think a lot of people accidentally fall
Speaker 5: into the herd mentality. Like a good example here, I'm
Speaker 5: living now and leaving with my mom after my dad died.
Speaker 5: She's almost ninety five, and they have a garbage truck
Speaker 5: that comes up once a week, use this robotic arm
Speaker 5: to pick up the garbage cans and throw them in
Speaker 5: the truck. And everybody puts their garbage cans with the
Speaker 5: handles facing outward because I think that's the way it's
Speaker 5: supposed to be. And all of the people in the
Speaker 5: neighborhood have their garbage cans facing outward because they think
Speaker 5: it has to be that way for the garbage can
Speaker 5: to pick it up. But if you look at the
Speaker 5: robotic arm on these trucks as they're picking something up,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter which orientation that can is, it'll pick
Speaker 5: it up anyway. And I've been arguing that with my mother,
Speaker 5: explaining to her mom, it's just that people have this
Speaker 5: assumption that that's the way things are supposed to be.
Speaker 5: That's an accepted assumption they've made. Anyway, I don't like
Speaker 5: to make any assumptions about reality. I've always questioned everything,
Speaker 5: and I've never satisfied with the answers unless I find
Speaker 5: them myself. And that's the basis for my thought. That's
Speaker 5: the basis for the books I write, because I think
Speaker 5: a lot of what we assume is not necessarily true.
Speaker 5: A lot of what we assume is just what other
Speaker 5: people tell us is the way things are, but it's
Speaker 5: not necessarily the things we can do for ourselves, not
Speaker 5: necessarily the truth that we should live in. I believe
Speaker 5: we should live in the truth. I know we're getting
Speaker 5: pretty far afield, and.
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. It's all relevant, man, I swear it is.
Speaker 2: And but I really enjoyed the conversation. I always loved
Speaker 2: talking to you, Martin.
Speaker 5: Uh, well, thank you.
Speaker 2: Click.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I enjoy it, justin. Sorry, we have problems with
Speaker 5: the timing meeting each other, but I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Hope you'll do it again because I can't tell time guys. Uh,
Speaker 2: I missed up the time frame today and he was
Speaker 2: nice enough to to wait around for me because I
Speaker 2: told him I said, I need a world time clock
Speaker 2: on the wild it's got all the time zones because
Speaker 2: it's hard meeting and keep up with my own time zone.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm glad we had the chance to talk.
Speaker 5: And Uh, if you people want to go to my website,
Speaker 5: can I mention.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, that's what I was gonna do. I was
Speaker 2: gonna close out and lets you plug whatever you wanted
Speaker 2: to plug there.
Speaker 5: Well, my main main website is Mkaddington books dot com
Speaker 5: spelled m K E T t i n Books dot com.
Speaker 5: And on that side, I have over one hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty books divide up into about thirteen categories like paranormal, longevity, spirituality,
Speaker 5: living in space, and then I have books in each
Speaker 5: of those categories, and I have a page on each book,
Speaker 5: and the page has a description of the book and
Speaker 5: has the title of contents, and at the bottom of
Speaker 5: the page all the places you can buy it, whether
Speaker 5: it's an ebook, printed, audiobook, or whatever. So that's how
Speaker 5: a lot of people can come to my site and
Speaker 5: find that. And then I have a subsite which is
Speaker 5: online training courses, and I have several online training courses,
Speaker 5: some of which I developed over ten years ago, some
Speaker 5: of which are brand new. The most comprehensive one I've got.
Speaker 5: It's called Longevity Coaching. It's a comprehensive training course based
Speaker 5: on what I call the ten principles of personal longevity,
Speaker 5: and people can become a longevity coach taking that with
Speaker 5: my tests. I used to sell it for nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 5: in other words, almost two thousand dollars. Now I sell
Speaker 5: it for two hundred and fifty dollars, so big discount.
Speaker 5: But a lot of people can learn about the longevity
Speaker 5: lifestyle from this, and I'm very open to people sending
Speaker 5: me comments or ideas if they have them. And I
Speaker 5: have a newsletter I started last month also, and you
Speaker 5: can see links on my website to sign up for
Speaker 5: the newsletter. And I think you'll find it really interesting
Speaker 5: because I try to go into four or five unusual
Speaker 5: or out of the box topics each month. So that's
Speaker 5: what I do, and that's my site.
Speaker 2: Well, guys, I hope you enjoyed that. Be sure to
Speaker 2: check out Martin's stuff, And as you've seen, we've had
Speaker 2: two conversations already and they've I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: enjoyed them, but I've enjoyed them. I think Martin's a
Speaker 2: great guy and has a lot of cool insights in
Speaker 2: the conversations. They're always in lightning until it makes time.
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