WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:06.879 Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and 2 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:10.800 I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't 3 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.880 help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as 4 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:17.079 our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested 5 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:19.320 in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm 6 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:22.800 going over the same parenting topics over and over. 7 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:26.879 So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere, 8 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:29.559 we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we 9 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.159 thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it, 10 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.759 if only what not to do. Watch and listen along, 11 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:38.359 and let's all make like we're doing something important for 12 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:39.320 our families. 13 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:42.799 Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of 14 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:47.119 an older entertainment property, And for this week of May nineteenth, 15 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:52.719 we are continuing with Lost, Season two, episode twenty two, 16 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:59.399 three minutes, a pretty obscure title which I guess refers 17 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:02.960 to the amount of time Michael was given to commune 18 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.120 with Walt Yes, and yet he did not get three 19 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:12.560 minutes no, so sort of seems like a random title 20 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:16.560 that they just kind of threw on there. We need 21 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:17.680 a title. What are we going to do? 22 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:17.920 Oh? 23 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:22.560 I don't know how about this right? This episode was. 24 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:27.719 Busy, Yeah, I mean you. 25 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:31.200 Had to be on your toes because it was like there. 26 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:35.519 Weren't flashbacks to you know, some distant pass but there 27 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:43.200 were just flashbacks ricocheting among today, three days ago, ten 28 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:47.040 days ago, thirteen days ago, all these intervals, and. 29 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.079 If you were not paying attention. 30 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:53.439 And reading the screen every few minutes when they announced this, 31 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:56.159 you might not. 32 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:57.040 Realize what was going on. 33 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:01.040 The old Yes, I believe that they had Michael shoot 34 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:04.439 himself in the shoulders so that in the scenes where 35 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.239 he had a sling on, you knew that was today 36 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:09.199 the present day, a. 37 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:14.759 Big white sling, so you can't miss it. You can't go, well, 38 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.439 it is this armin A sling. Oh no, it's like 39 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:23.840 a flashing neon sign saying present or relatively present or 40 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:28.080 now ish or something. Yep, but it does fill in 41 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:33.520 for us what happened between when Michael left in search 42 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:39.000 of Walt and came back and shot people. So as 43 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:42.280 we had predicted, they told him that if they got 44 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:47.400 he got Henry out, then they would give him Walt, 45 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:49.800 which why on earth would you trust those people? 46 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:50.719 Right? 47 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.080 And then at the last second, oh, by the way, 48 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:54.719 we also want four other people. 49 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:56.719 We want you to we want you to. 50 00:02:56.759 --> 00:03:00.479 Free Henry, not Henry, and we also want you to 51 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:05.159 deliver us these four other people and then we'll let 52 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:05.960 you and walk go. 53 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:11.240 Yes, yes, I don't know. Then Michael's well, exactly what happens, 54 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.000 then I'll take. 55 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:13.960 A boat also please. 56 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:22.439 Yes, They're like, hey, he's supposed to use as an excuse, Well, 57 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:24.759 we're gonna go We're gonna go get these others. We're 58 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.759 gonna go attack them, We're gonna go whatever. We're gonna 59 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.360 bring a band of people to take over or something 60 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:36.240 which he can get away with when the list is Jack, Kate, 61 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:41.599 Sawyer and anybody else. Right, But it was excuse says, 62 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:44.719 we're gonna put together a lean, mean, fighting force to 63 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:50.560 go get these guys, and we're bringing her a Hurley said, Nope, 64 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:55.080 you can't come Jen, Nope, nobody else, just just the 65 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:59.039 three of you and Hurley Early. That's I mean, that's 66 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.120 all you need to here to know that Michael is compromised. 67 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:04.199 I mean, good on saying for picking up on that. 68 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:10.639 But Harly, he's the one you're gonna go sneaking through 69 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:13.639 the jungle with. I mean, I love the guy, but 70 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.959 he's not the one you pick for this mission or 71 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:25.680 any mission unless involves getting food out of someplace. So 72 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.079 they yeah, that's that. They set him up pretty bad 73 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:35.120 with that. Nobody else. Really he should have argued with 74 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:37.199 them that. I mean, it was nice that he mentioned 75 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:41.560 that he didn't know who James Ford was, But why 76 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:44.319 didn't they just write Sawyer down on there? Why wouldn't 77 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:46.920 they They have known he didn't know, but they have 78 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:50.439 their other reasons. It will all become clear eventually, maybe. 79 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:51.839 In maybe in years. 80 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:58.079 Yeah, yeah, they don't. They don't let out. But this 81 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.079 just seems like I'm I mean, we've been watching this 82 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:04.160 show long enough to know a bad idea when we 83 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:08.680 hear it. Oh buddy, that's not gonna work. You know 84 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.160 that's not gonna work. Why are you doing this? Why 85 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:13.079 didn't you just come clean to your friends and tell 86 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.240 them everything and then you can figure out what to do. 87 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.079 But he's got to get his son. 88 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.639 Yeah, even his son is like dad. These people are lying, 89 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:26.040 like Walt's trying to warn him, not tell, not to 90 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:27.199 fall for anything. 91 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:33.040 They say yes, and you know, the woman who's I 92 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:37.439 guess in charge of Walt says what attorneys have said previously, 93 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:41.600 and what we have said in our commentaries is for 94 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.519 a guy who's going to kill people and turn over 95 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:47.759 everything to get your son, you don't have to know 96 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:51.600 a lot about him. It's like you've spent you've been 97 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:54.199 actually in charge of him as a father for an 98 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.399 extremely short period of time, most of it after a 99 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.519 plane crash. It's not like this devoted your entire life 100 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.240 to caring for this boy, and now he has been 101 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:09.600 rested from your hands. He's like he's been mostly nothing 102 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.680 to you. And I mean not that it's your fault, 103 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:17.079 but right unless maybe I mean she did ask did 104 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:20.920 he appear places he was? Maybe he was hanging with 105 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:23.240 Michael all this time, and Michael just hasn't mentioned it. 106 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.000 You know, he comes to visit me every week. It's 107 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.839 real nice. We go to the park and nobody seems 108 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:36.680 to be able to see him Invincent. But yeah, what 109 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:39.720 a mess. Yeah, that whole thing, what a stupid mess. 110 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:45.079 And being that it's coming to the end of the season, especially, 111 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.040 I think we can predict that nothing good will come. 112 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:48.519 Of me. 113 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:53.480 When it was over. I told my husband, Okay, I 114 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:55.399 have to think of some parenting tips to get out 115 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:57.759 of this, And he looked at me and said, there's 116 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:02.600 one parent and he's a jackass, which is a little 117 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.959 harsh on Claire. Claire's a parent. Yeah, we got another one. 118 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:09.519 Yeah, but Claire's like, yes, please, I will inject my 119 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:15.600 child with these mystery substances every nine day. 120 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.839 That's what. Yeah, I mean, I know vaccines are a 121 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:21.199 hot topic these days and we don't want to go there, 122 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:26.079 but would you inject I have this random thing that 123 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:29.000 was found, It was just dropped into the jungle here. 124 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:33.360 Why don't you inject it into your small infant child? Yeah, 125 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.759 and yourself if you like, Charlie's been trying it out. 126 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:41.480 You know, it's fine, just like that, that seems to 127 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:45.439 be I don't think I could. I would want, you know, 128 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:49.319 could we get some clinical trials on this right now? Yeah? 129 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:51.959 I mean it's I guess it's all from back when 130 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.399 the others had captured her and tried to convince her 131 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.120 that she needed this. 132 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:00.199 And the baby needed that. 133 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.920 I like, we don't want to believe those people. 134 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:07.600 Okay, why are they believing those Yeah? 135 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:11.399 Oh and I missed where Charlie got it from the 136 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:12.800 balloon like food. 137 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.199 Dropped the drop I think you said from the drop. 138 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.560 So along with the food came came just a suitcase 139 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:21.160 of random things to inject into your bikey, sure, sure, 140 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:22.360 I'm sure it's fine. 141 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:23.279 No problem. 142 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:26.759 The people here want nothing but the best for you. 143 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:34.559 It's fine, man, people I don't know, but. 144 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:41.320 Well clear maybe you know a young and fairly naive parent. 145 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.279 But every nine. 146 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:48.519 Days, that's the part that just what now? 147 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:50.200 Every nine days? 148 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:54.120 Oh wow? Why does it say that? Somewhere on the 149 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.960 They're like a little dosage note in that dusty case 150 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:03.279 full of god knows what. I don't know, Oh man, 151 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:09.399 just weirder and weirder. I feel for her having a 152 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.480 having a baby in this situation, but we don't we 153 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.840 don't get enough details about how exactly that's going for her. 154 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:20.639 Right What she feeds this, well, man, I guess she breastfeeds. 155 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:26.240 But what they diaper her with? What they use on 156 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:29.120 the die? Did they get some like you know, uh 157 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:32.000 zinc oxide in the drop as well that they can 158 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:33.000 use for diper rash? 159 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:37.639 Maybe Sawyer has some? Yeah, oh the Island Walgreens under 160 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:38.080 his bed. 161 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:38.519 Yes. 162 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.440 What he doesn't have anymore are little statues full of heroin. No, 163 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:45.360 they all got thrown into the sea, and I'm thinking, 164 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:48.440 how long before the tide brings those puppies back? Exactly? 165 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.879 That's what I like, you know, in the major leagues, 166 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.720 anytime soon. He wasn't throwing them so far away. I 167 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:58.960 guess it'll all get wet, right, that'll be will that 168 00:09:59.080 --> 00:09:59.679 ruins something? 169 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:05.200 No, they were inside the statues and wrapped in plastics. 170 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:08.399 I mean it was a good it was a good effort. 171 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:13.960 It showed an intention lot approved lock who was just 172 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.039 sitting there on the beach waiting for his legs to 173 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:19.399 start working again. Yep, and then they did and he 174 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:24.960 just took off. Isn't that nice? People? I'm surprised people 175 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:28.919 aren't just lining up to go to that island. Mm hmm. Yeah, 176 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:31.919 sun sand and all your ills will be curious. That's right, 177 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.960 that'll be great. You never go back, but you know, 178 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:37.639 we drop food down every. 179 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:38.919 So every once in a while. 180 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:42.799 Yeah, there are coconuts on some of the trees. I'm 181 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:47.320 sure there's blaccos. Probably you could go get some food 182 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:48.120 from them if you want. 183 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:51.759 Yeah, what you need to do is befriend Gin and Son, 184 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:55.240 because yes, Gin knows how to catch fish and Son 185 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:55.840 knows how. 186 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:56.240 To guard it. 187 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:58.720 So that's right there, you go. 188 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.000 They have their the parents who are going to be 189 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:03.919 possibly the most prepared. 190 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:10.600 Yeah. Yeah, So Michael Boy Harold Parano had to do 191 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:15.919 some some big time wild eyed, crazy guy acting in this. Yes, 192 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:23.080 And you know why anybody is listening to him and 193 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:25.759 wanting to do what he says, I don't know, because 194 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:27.559 he looks quite mad. 195 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:32.519 Well, and he he's using this the like I'm a parent, 196 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.159 you know it's my call, and he's yeah, he's playing 197 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.480 that to everybody who doesn't. 198 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.679 Have a kid, like oh yeah. 199 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:44.960 But the same way that would work the same way 200 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.399 that Claire tried to do to Son. So you know, 201 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:53.120 are they all going to surprise pregnancies our secret children? 202 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:57.039 Maybe I wouldn't be surprised at all. I feel like 203 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.559 in the real world, you make that sort of excuse 204 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.399 and people are saying, I didn't tell you to have 205 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:06.240 a kid, You just go do your own thing, not 206 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:12.559 my concern. Yeah, why they would say, sure, let's do things. 207 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:16.279 I was very glad that sayid figure came with the 208 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:21.679 WTF and you know, could tell why nobody else could, 209 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.519 why Sawyer wouldn't have noticed somebody work in a con 210 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:32.399 I don't know, right, but busy morning Analysia who he 211 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.240 has to tell Jack about their little tryst. 212 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:40.440 Yes, that was evidence that he is susceptible to a 213 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:41.519 con himself. 214 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:47.840 Yeah, from time admitted to it. Jack is his closest 215 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:48.720 thing to a friend. 216 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:53.840 Ah, buddies, Jack's. 217 00:12:53.559 --> 00:13:03.559 Like not reciprocate, but I is. I mean obviously Michael 218 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.000 has to arrange it so that Hurley will want to go, 219 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:12.840 but to kill Libby and then say, look, you have 220 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:14.080 to go because they killed her. 221 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.879 Right is low? Yeah, buddy, it's youd. 222 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:20.919 It is not well with your soul. Perhaps you need 223 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.399 to do some absolution with mister Echo who has decided 224 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:25.679 to stop being a priest and building a church and 225 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.080 just press the button. It must be such a relief. 226 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.159 It must be such a relief, you know. You go 227 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.240 from the things this guy has gone from being a 228 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:36.639 drug dealer, being a fake priest, losing his brother, all 229 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:38.759 the stresses this man has had, and now he always 230 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:41.200 sits in a nice place and just gets button. It 231 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.240 looks like he's like, yep, yep, I'm here, I got it. 232 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:48.360 We got food, we got a record player, we got books. 233 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.720 We're not gonna be putting up at church anymore. Why 234 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:54.519 do I need to do that work. I'm just gonna 235 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:56.720 sit here and press a button. You looked so pleased. 236 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:01.159 But Charlie, you want to continue building a church, go 237 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:02.320 right ahead. 238 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:03.360 Yeah. 239 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:05.320 I think we're gonna worry about sitting in a church 240 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:07.600 that Charlie built because it's not going to come down. 241 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:10.039 But what good is it having a fake priest on 242 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:12.240 your island if he's not going to do funerals? Yeah, 243 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.759 that funeral was pretty I will mourn her in my 244 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:20.559 own way, mourn them in my own way. Meanwhile, I'm 245 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:21.600 going to hit the buttons. 246 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:23.159 Yeah, it's so fun. 247 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:28.600 The numbers the most relaxing, relaxing mission on the island. 248 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:34.120 So where is mister Locke off to do? 249 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.320 We think? I don't know. 250 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.320 Did he head to head out into the jungle. Well, 251 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:45.279 he just took off down the beach. Yeah, so I 252 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.960 didn't know if he was going to join the rest 253 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:52.080 of the gang or if he was off to do something. 254 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:57.639 Well, he's put out because he's realized that, you know, 255 00:14:57.840 --> 00:15:03.879 pressing the button was just a psychological experiment, right, Yeah, 256 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:08.320 he's figured that, you know, that's what he learned from going. 257 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:09.480 To John again John. 258 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:14.399 Yeah, so now he's coming, buddy, He's like, I'm out 259 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:16.440 of here taking my ball like. 260 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:21.440 That. He's not on the list of people that that's right, 261 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:24.600 he is not. From a parenting point of view, I 262 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:28.320 think one thing we learned from this is be able 263 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.399 to tell people things about your kid. Yes, people ask 264 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:34.200 you questions about your kid. Do you really know? 265 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:35.799 You should be read? 266 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:38.960 And I mean I would say that possibly this is 267 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:42.240 a situation where dad's maybe not as strong as moms, 268 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:43.799 because moms are the ones who are going to the 269 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.440 doctors and doing this thing and doing that thing. You know, 270 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:49.480 Walt's mother would have had a thick folder full of 271 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:55.519 data to give to the creepy other lady. Yes, Michael's like, well, 272 00:15:55.600 --> 00:16:02.639 I don't know. Yeah, you know that's embarrassing. 273 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.919 Well, and it is exactly what they did to him 274 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:06.519 at the custody. 275 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:06.639 Here I did. 276 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.720 They did, and he should have learned something from that. Yes, 277 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:16.519 just make stuff up, yeah right, you need to, don't 278 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:20.600 just I don't know. Yeah, he's my son. He's my son, 279 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:23.679 and I will kill all these people worry him. Well, 280 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:25.799 what do you know what you can tell me about him? Well, 281 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:28.559 I don't know, not too much. I haven't really spent 282 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:33.399 that much time with him. But but meanwhile, let me 283 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:36.600 put all my friends in danger or death to get 284 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:43.799 him back. This is this is a very frustrating character. Yes, 285 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:52.559 come on, come on, if you will do anything for him, 286 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:59.720 including that anything, learning a thing or two right there 287 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.039 was or pretending like you know things. 288 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:07.920 Yeah, well, you know the blogger and sort of internet 289 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.799 person design mom, she did a whole thing. 290 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:15.559 About you know, men, because it's always men. 291 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.400 They are all about like I need guns to protect 292 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:23.480 my family, you know, and she's like, you know, what 293 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:29.960 protects your family laundry and and you know, clean water 294 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:35.440 and giving your kids baths, and you know, she made 295 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:40.039 this whole long conversation, you know, imagined conversation like I'm 296 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:42.200 you know, I need a gun to protect them. 297 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:45.599 Like she's like, actually, you need to feed them, you know, 298 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:49.640 food that's safe and healthy, and you need to like 299 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:54.160 wash their clothes so they don't get diseases. So yeah, yeah, 300 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:58.559 that's kind of where we're at with Michael. So I 301 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:02.079 think so Michael is very up for any degree of 302 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:08.359 violence right in the defense of by size. But you know, 303 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:12.079 have they ever actually had a conversation, Yeah, when the 304 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.519 kid had a choice. He was hanging with Locke. Yeah, 305 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.680 oh well, well it's parenting is hard. It is, it is. 306 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:22.880 We do. We do acknowledge that I got out here 307 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:29.559 for a dad, you know. Uh, Saide's sensing that Michael 308 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:33.279 is compromised. That's a parenting I mean we don't. I 309 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:36.480 don't think that Saide has any children, but that's a uh, 310 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:41.720 that's a parenting reflex. Yes, that this person is being 311 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.440 too nice, this person is being too cooperative, this person 312 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:49.319 is being too firm. This just is this is. 313 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:52.799 Something something is not right, something that's. 314 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:58.599 Not acting like a kid should be acting. Hmm, what's up? 315 00:18:58.799 --> 00:18:59.920 What does this mean? 316 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:07.759 Yes, it's a useful skill that not too many of 317 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:13.079 these people have. It's true, not that it's going to 318 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:17.519 do sight any particular good, but you know, it's a 319 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:20.079 it's a good parenting skill to be able to smell 320 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:23.920 a rat and know what to do about it. Yeah, 321 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.640 and knowing what to do about it is the harder part. Yeah. 322 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:33.640 I mean he knew to like tell Jack, and. 323 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:33.480 Jack was ready to be. 324 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.720 Like, oh, we're gonna go, and he's like, wait, yeah, 325 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:39.839 you don't want him to know that we know right now? 326 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:43.240 Yeah, And Jack Jack bought it, though. You could tell 327 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:46.640 that he could see the wisdom of that. He gave 328 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:53.279 Michael a look, and I bother will do anything for 329 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:59.480 his son, anything, anything except. 330 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:02.240 Visit once in a while. 331 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:06.279 Oh well, Walt does not seem like he's having a 332 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:11.519 real good time there another villain. No, so surely we're 333 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:16.400 going to go get him out, aren't we. Yeah. Vincent 334 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:19.000 just keeps popping up at apropotons. 335 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:24.279 To start regular reminder like, don't forget no Walt, he's 336 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:25.319 out there somewhere. 337 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:28.720 Is that the dog that's gonna see Michael in hell? 338 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:33.400 Oh boy, that was. 339 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:40.240 Not a very comforting story, really, it really wasn't. Thanks 340 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:47.400 there echo. Oh well, so why do we think they 341 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:48.640 took some blood from Michael? 342 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:48.880 Right? 343 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:50.079 I wonder what they're doing with that. 344 00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:53.039 Yeah, that's creepy. 345 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:58.559 Bringing it down to their island they have. Does it 346 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:03.119 have something to do with the nine nine day, every 347 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:04.240 nine day vaccine? 348 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:11.559 Oh? Maybe, so every nine day? What is there on 349 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.200 this island that you would have to vaccidate yourself against? 350 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.440 I guess it's this illness, that's this phantom illness that 351 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:21.240 Danielle talks about. Right, doesn't seem to be bothering anybody 352 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:26.559 right now. Nope, unless it's making them all kind of stupid, 353 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.599 stupid virus. Protect yourself. 354 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:33.079 Yeah, yeah, sure. 355 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:35.240 Michael, I'll go across the island for you to to, 356 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:40.039 you know, confront these evil people, and let's bring Early 357 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:44.359 with us. Sure, Okay, no harm can come to Hurly. Okay, 358 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:49.039 that's right. But but harm they do realize that harm 359 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:53.960 comes to everybody around her, right. I think I'm in 360 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:58.680 an expedition with him. That's probably why Libby is no more. 361 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:06.880 That's right, poor Libby, only to be seen in flashbacks henceforward. 362 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:13.160 But so with all this mystery and all this weirdness 363 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.680 and all this stuff, and all this planning of a 364 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:21.000 trek and a dangerous mission, hey there's a boat. 365 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:22.839 Yep? 366 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.680 What the heck? That was a twist. At the end 367 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:33.079 of the episode, it seemed like it was over. Claire 368 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.559 was being kind to Charlie. Did she know that he 369 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:39.839 threw all the statues in the in the sea? 370 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:40.640 I don't know. 371 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:43.759 But here comes another wrinkle. 372 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:44.440 Yep. 373 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:49.160 It's so, do we remember anybody who took off in 374 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.240 a boat at some point? Well, I mean the others, 375 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:55.160 but that was a different boat. 376 00:22:55.319 --> 00:22:55.720 Wasn't it. 377 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:57.079 No, not in that kind of boat. 378 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:04.759 Yeah, so no, to remember something possibly but not important. 379 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:05.880 I'm sure they'll remind me. 380 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:09.480 Yes, I don't know if I would have remembered it 381 00:23:09.480 --> 00:23:16.680 if I hadn't paid. But anyway, excitement, well sort of 382 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:22.160 excitement ahead for the next two episodes, which have well 383 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:27.960 let's not say who the flashbacks will be, okay, because 384 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:33.680 it kind of spoils a little bit. Okay, So next week, 385 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:37.240 are we gonna watch both parts of the final or 386 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:40.799 are we just gonna watch one? U? We can? 387 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:42.759 How are you want to do it? 388 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:44.720 Do you think we should watch them both? 389 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:45.519 I don't know. 390 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.000 I mean I were they they must have been released 391 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:52.759 a week apart, right, let's just find out watch it 392 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:54.799 if the way people would have watched it? Or should 393 00:23:54.839 --> 00:24:00.799 we watch it just in one huge ridiculous I can 394 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:05.279 show Dharma brand goldfish crackers. 395 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:06.200 Your date May. 396 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:08.279 Fourth. 397 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:13.839 Oh okay, it was the two hour season finale. 398 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:17.519 Okay, so we should watch it. We should watch it 399 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:19.960 as one, we should watch it as one, I think. Okay, 400 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.960 let's let's let's do it. Okay, let's get to the 401 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:25.119