1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,759 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Christina. And before the episode starts, just 2 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:10,960 a couple of announcements. One, if you haven't listened to 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,599 my episode with P ANDW. Hansen Homicides, go listen to it. 4 00:00:14,599 --> 00:00:16,879 It was fun but very depressing but also fun. You 5 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:20,879 should go listen. Second announcement, we have a new podcast 6 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:23,440 with Laney from It's Haunted, What Now and true crime 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,960 Cases with Laney and Aiden from Susto. If you don't remember, 8 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:29,039 that was the whole reason they had an episode with 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,280 us back in October, and we just now finally recorded 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,880 episode one of that podcast. It's called Gonsee Hitos Anonymous, 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,240 where we who are very very qualified to give advice 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,719 on your problems are given advice on your problems. So 13 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:43,840 if you have a problem that you want advice on, 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,119 it doesn't matter how small you think it is, send 15 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:48,840 it in the infos in the show notes, but you 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,200 can also go to gozehitos anonymous dot com. All right, 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:58,679 onto the episode. Hi, this is Christina, and this time 18 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:01,079 no Karme because she ditched me. But I have an 19 00:01:01,119 --> 00:01:03,600 awesome guest and I almost forgot to say, but this 20 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:05,840 is a Spooky tell Us, the podcast for all Things 21 00:01:05,879 --> 00:01:09,280 as Spooky true crime. Sometimes not today because we have 22 00:01:09,359 --> 00:01:12,840 again a special guest that's telling us a paranormal story 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,079 and telling us about her book. Her name is Amanda B. 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,079 Weaver formerly Amanda Ross. She writes dark fantasy and horror, 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,519 and she co hosts the Horror Host support group, book 26 00:01:24,519 --> 00:01:28,480 club and podcasts, which actually sounds amazing and like you 27 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:29,319 would all love it. 28 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: So say, hi, hey, thank you for having me. I'm 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,640 really excited to be here. Yes, you said it right 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,920 for a host poor group. When you reached out to me, 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,920 I was really excited to be on your podcast too, 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,239 because it felt like kids met I was like, ooh, 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,519 more spooky people to talk to you right right. 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,359 Speaker 1: Yes, there's always more room to grow your spooky circle. 35 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:53,560 Also very sad because I don't know what's going to 36 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:56,040 happen to TikTok, but that is where I found Amanda. 37 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:58,560 I came across her sharing her story and then I 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,640 was like, oh, I don't I can't watch all this, 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,760 but let me email her right now or send a 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,120 TikTok message because you were sharing your story but I'm like, 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,760 I don't want to hear it right now because I 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,719 want to be surprised. So I heard the beginning, like 43 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:11,439 the first three words of like nope, let me just 44 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:14,800 send a quick message so we'll see what happens to TikTok. 45 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,360 But that is where we found each other. 46 00:02:16,599 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: I know. I'm so glad you reached out, and I'm 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,000 very sad about the TikTok ban. I've been just scrolling 48 00:02:22,039 --> 00:02:24,800 through all day today, trying to watch as many videos 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,280 as possible, trying to save as many videos. Right, Yeah, 50 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:30,400 follow people other places. 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, find them wherever they're at. And then this episode 52 00:02:33,439 --> 00:02:36,120 we're gonna do, like we always do, a listener story. 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,759 If you have a story that you want to send 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,439 us email at spookytalesigmail dot com. You can send it 55 00:02:40,479 --> 00:02:43,159 on discord, you can record a voice now and email that. 56 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,879 You can call these Spooky hotline. There's a lot of 57 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:47,560 ways to get us your paranormal story. We love receiving them. 58 00:02:47,759 --> 00:02:51,000 So we're gonna hear the listener's story. We're gonna hear 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,039 Amanda's super crazy, creepy story, and then she's going to 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,439 tell us about her book, which I just ordered. It's 61 00:02:57,479 --> 00:03:00,360 my only, my first and only TikTok shop order. 62 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:01,599 Speaker 2: Nice. 63 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was like, I've never used to talk shop, 64 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:05,960 and I was like, oh, let me just get this 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,039 book really quick, so I can't wait for that to 66 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:10,439 get here. But we'll talk about that after all the 67 00:03:10,479 --> 00:03:13,919 paranormal things. Yeah, all right, So let me get into 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,840 this listener's story. And this is a update sort of 69 00:03:17,879 --> 00:03:21,400 sorts from another story we received. I don't know if 70 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,719 anyone remembers that story, but it was about a Ouiji 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,240 board that some friends made while the rest of the 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,960 school was on a field trip. They made this like 73 00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:34,560 makeshift Wigi board with some I don't remember if it 74 00:03:34,599 --> 00:03:36,759 was rocks or they drew it. I can't remember, but 75 00:03:36,879 --> 00:03:38,960 it was Teresa who sent it into us, and so 76 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:42,680 she's just sending us that update. So here it goes. 77 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:45,280 I remembered why my friends and I started doing all 78 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:47,960 this paranormal stuff in the sixth grade. In the beginning 79 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,560 of the school year, a female fourth grader drowned in 80 00:03:50,639 --> 00:03:54,439 a local river during Labor Day weekend. It really affected 81 00:03:54,439 --> 00:03:57,159 the school because her surviving siblings still went and the 82 00:03:57,159 --> 00:04:00,080 school helped the family with fundraising for her burial. I 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,879 tried looking for the news broadcast about this event but 84 00:04:02,919 --> 00:04:05,400 couldn't find it. I only remember the girl's first name, 85 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:09,120 so I couldn't find her on another database regarding local drownings. 86 00:04:09,159 --> 00:04:12,360 As the family removed her name and info from these records. 87 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:14,719 I can respect that. I hope her family is doing 88 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:17,120 well and wish them the best. And now this is 89 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:23,040 her other STORYO. She titled it school bathroom ritual. I 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,639 don't remember around what time of the school year this happened, 91 00:04:25,639 --> 00:04:28,959 but it once again involves Chrissy, Pam, and I. It 92 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,680 was recess and Chrissie suggested we try one of those 93 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,839 bathroom rituals. It was the kind where you chant or 94 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:39,000 recite something and make specific hand and arm movements. It 95 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:42,319 involved the bathroom doorway. You do the ritual and then 96 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:44,800 press the back of your hands on the doorframe while 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,240 it's open. You take a step back, and the ghost 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,160 or spirit is supposed to raise you or your hands up. 99 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,480 Once again. Chrissy was conducting this and volunteered me to 100 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:57,959 do the ritual first. Chrissy and Pam both stood inside 101 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:00,639 the girl's bathroom and I stood in the door facing 102 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,399 the hallway. I did the ritual and nothing happened. I 103 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:05,480 must have done it wrong, or at least rushed it 104 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:08,079 because I didn't want to be in anyone's way if 105 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:10,639 they had to use the bathroom. Chrissy asked Pam to 106 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,120 try it, but this time I would be standing outside 107 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,279 of the door staring at Pam. She did the ritual. 108 00:05:16,319 --> 00:05:19,240 As she sat back, her arms started to rise on 109 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,600 their own, and Pam started crying. She pulled her arms 110 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:26,199 down and cried. She said her back felt hot. Kirsty 111 00:05:26,319 --> 00:05:28,879 took her by the sink and lifted the back of 112 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:31,360 her shirt from the middle of her back to the 113 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:35,040 top of her pants. There were three vivid red scratches. 114 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,480 She cried even more when she saw the marks through 115 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,279 the mirror. We took her to the school nurse and 116 00:05:41,319 --> 00:05:44,560 she calmed down a bit. Eventually, the school nurse asked 117 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,439 all of us what happened, but we were all separated 118 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:50,800 for this interrogation, not them being interrogeted like they did 119 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,079 a crime. Oh my god. Somehow I ended up in 120 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,199 a school counseling program because of this. It lasted about 121 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:01,399 two weeks and didn't do much for me, as I 122 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,759 concluded what happened to Pam wasn't paranormal, at least that's 123 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:06,720 what I told the counselor. To get out of it. 124 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,800 I know Chrissy didn't harm Pam because she wasn't close 125 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,199 enough to scratch her, and the motion would have been 126 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,160 visible from where I was standing. Pam was fairly petite 127 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,360 and height and stature, and Chrissy and I were fairly tall, 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,279 about five six. I would have noticed Chrissy lunging to 129 00:06:23,319 --> 00:06:27,240 scratch Pam. After this experience, we were still curious about 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,120 the paranormal and spirits. But try not to do anything 131 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,519 in the girl's bathroom. Thank you for your time, and 132 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,600 stay as spooky. 133 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: Okay, wow, okay, meeting in the ladies room. 134 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: All right, just a little casual, A ritual in the 135 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,920 girl's bathroom, you. 136 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, just you know, a casual Wednesday ritual, get 137 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,160 through the day. Some people were paying some people the rituals. 138 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, on Wednesdays. Some people were being in on. 139 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,360 There's two rituals in the bathroom. It's fine, yes, yeah, 140 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:03,319 but no, that is for sure weird. I mean, like, 141 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:06,319 where did the scratches come from? I don't know. I'm 142 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:10,759 curious about the ritual though, because I know several paranormal 143 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,120 games and I haven't heard of any about like standing 144 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,519 in the doorway and raising your arm so. 145 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:19,319 Speaker 2: I haven't heard of that one. I was expecting, you know, 146 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:20,519 Bloody Mary or some. 147 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,639 Speaker 1: Bride on that right. And then there's there's another one 148 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,680 where what was it called? Man, there's too many, but 149 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,120 I remember there's one where you use your fingers and 150 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,040 supposedly the spirit is helping you, like raise someone. I 151 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:39,040 thought it was going to be that one. Board Yes, 152 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:42,519 that's what I thought it was going to be, but no, 153 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,319 I don't know what this was so interesting. 154 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: The people want to know what the name of this 155 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,319 one is. 156 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: Yes, please tell it, but no, I wouldn't. I would never. 157 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,439 I was too scared to do Bloody Mary in the bathroom, 158 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,000 same same anytime. Soone was like, all right, let's do it. 159 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,800 They'd like turn everything off and they'd be like bloody 160 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:04,120 Marry and they'd be like, nope, nope, I'm leaving. I 161 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,079 would run out. Yeah, I am a weedie. Even though 162 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,839 I have this podcast and so many people have paramal 163 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:13,120 stories in my family, I'm such a weani. So I 164 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,279 could never. I could never do any any ritual. 165 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: See, I'm the same way, and the paranormal in this 166 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,879 case found me. I was not looking for it, right, 167 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:26,120 But I'm the same I don't even I don't even 168 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,800 own a wiki board like that. You know, when you 169 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:31,000 talked to me, came out in the hand. Yes, my 170 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:34,960 co host owns the hand right, oh the hole, and 171 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:39,360 she she nothing's happened. She lives alone. But I said, 172 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:42,399 you know you're playing with fire right, you're doing that right? 173 00:08:42,639 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: No, thank you before back, you're right right, But let's 174 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,440 get it into your story, like what what happened? 175 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,399 Speaker 2: So this was twenty ten. I was working at Macy's. 176 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:04,240 Can believe it? And you know, twenty ten, it feels 177 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,279 like that was peak Macy's time. It was twenty ten. 178 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,600 I was in college, so it was I want to 179 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,399 stay between my junior and senior year, and so I 180 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,519 was working during the day. I remember that it was 181 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:20,000 a Wednesday, so I was working during the day. It 182 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,799 was about eleven am. I know Wednesday. Things happen on Wednesdays, 183 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,519 I guess. So I worked in the junior's department, which 184 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,200 also had the same manager as the addresses department. And 185 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,120 that's important later to put a pin in that. So 186 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,039 at this point the store is it went busy. It's 187 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,360 two hours since opening. Nobody's in there. So my coworker 188 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,919 and I are just kind of shooting the shit by 189 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,960 the cash wrap, I'd say, And I had my back 190 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:52,159 towards where the customers come, right, And so we're just talking, 191 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,960 probably talking mess about a coworker and her face just 192 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,679 suddenly changes from chill to like she just gets this 193 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,399 litt on her face. So I think it's our manager. 194 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,279 So I went around prepared to pretend that I'm planing 195 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:11,600 or something, and it wasn't. On the other side was 196 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:17,519 this woman. She had a blonde bob. It looked, you know, 197 00:10:17,639 --> 00:10:21,799 bleach blonde. She was wearing casual clothes, jeans, t shirt, 198 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,720 were blops, and she looked her skin was just ashen. 199 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:30,440 But beyond all of that, she was glaring at us 200 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:35,039 and her eyes from corner in the corner were black. 201 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:38,080 I'm not sure if you've seemed supernatural, but it kind 202 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,440 of looked like how they stylized the demons where yeahs. 203 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,200 And I've had people when I'm told the story say well, 204 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,639 maybe she just had black eyes, And I said, like, 205 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,840 I got people in my family that had really dark 206 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:54,000 brown eyes. I've seen that. I know what that looks like. 207 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: That's not what this was, right, I mean, like the 208 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,519 part like your eyes still wouldn't be black corner to 209 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:03,240 the corner. Do you still need some in your eyes? 210 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: Exactly? Even if you near you have dark eyes and 211 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,200 you narrow them. It wasn't It wasn't like that. So 212 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:15,679 looking at her, you know, little surprise, like not expecting this. 213 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:19,480 Then we say, hey, can we help you, and she's 214 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:21,840 just glaring at us. So we have to ask her 215 00:11:21,879 --> 00:11:25,399 a couple of times, ma'am can we help you? Before 216 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,360 she says the dresses. And she didn't say dresses in 217 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:33,039 a normal tempo like dresses. Her voice is very very deep. 218 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,759 I tried to replicate it when I when I was 219 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:41,240 talking to somebody, I said like dresses, but probably deeper 220 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,240 than that. And it was just the one word. And 221 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,360 so I point say, hey, it's in the back. You 222 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,720 go back this way to the left, that's where you'll 223 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,879 find them. And she just continued to stare. She was 224 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,559 rooted in place, repeated the instructions again, rooted in place. 225 00:11:56,639 --> 00:11:59,639 So then my co worker Athena says, we'll show you 226 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,200 where the dresses are and grabbed my hand for us 227 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:04,799 to show this woman where the dresses are. 228 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: I'd be like, you show her where the dresses are? 229 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:11,759 Speaker 2: That part. I was looking at her like, come on, 230 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,919 who we like? Who is weed? So we're walking and 231 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,799 it's not far, you know, it's it's really just the 232 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,279 other department over takes less than a minute to walk 233 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,960 over there. But the lady insisted on walking behind us, 234 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:35,279 which okay, right. However, like I was so uncomfortable by 235 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,720 her that it was weird to have my back to her. 236 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,559 That's what That's what it was. It felt weird for 237 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,240 her to I just didn't feel safe with her behind 238 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:49,519 me because of the vibes. Because the second we met her, 239 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,240 she just I got this feeling of just this tremendous 240 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,159 heat all over my body. I was feeling nauseist. I 241 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,080 had a headache from the second that, Like I said, 242 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,200 that I met her. So we show her way the 243 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,759 dresses are and ask her she needs anything else. She 244 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,240 just turns and looks at us and continues to glare. 245 00:13:11,799 --> 00:13:14,960 So we like Homer Simpson in that day, and just 246 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,399 start backing up right, and we just leave and we 247 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:25,240 go back to our area. And I'm like girl to Athena, 248 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,320 like this is this is how you you would end 249 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,559 up being the first one to die in a horror movie. 250 00:13:30,879 --> 00:13:34,600 You don't just do that. You don't like you you 251 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,440 you should have just it's over there. 252 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just point, but don't move from where 253 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,840 you are, Just like over there, keep going exactly. 254 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: But she she says, well, you know, I'm loan my 255 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,799 sales numbers. I wanted to see if I can get 256 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:54,200 a sale. Okay, whatever. Then I'm thinking I'm gonna just 257 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,639 put this incident behind me, not even mention it, even 258 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,919 though I'm still kind of feeling that nausea, the heat, 259 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,919 all of that. I think it's just me. But then 260 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,720 Athena confirms that she also felt the same. She says, like, man, 261 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:10,279 I just feel really nauseous hot in here? 262 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: Do you? 263 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: I just feel really hot. 264 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: I've said this so many times from all the stories 265 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,639 of stories we've heard, but the minute someone else confirms 266 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,960 what you're feeling, that's like, oh no, this is real, 267 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,559 this is real exactly. 268 00:14:21,679 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: And I've had a lot of people on the TikTok 269 00:14:23,559 --> 00:14:26,919 say that she could have been on drugs, she could 270 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:30,080 have been any number of things, and yes, that is 271 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,440 also a possibility. However, Calma, the second that Athena told 272 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,080 me that she was feeling the exact same things that 273 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,039 I was without me even saying anything. Is when I 274 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,799 knew that this was not something that you know, she's 275 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,679 just a drug user who was having a bad day, 276 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:52,399 right right, So I don't think anything of it. Ladies 277 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:56,039 and Dresses. We continue on with our day. An hour 278 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,440 or so later, our manager comes over and then we 279 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:02,720 have a team meeting with the dresses department, and so 280 00:15:02,799 --> 00:15:05,600 we're all kind of just standing there, managers talking about 281 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,679 oh specials blah blah blah, and I have a coworker 282 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,639 in dresses who's looking a little freaked out and like, yo, 283 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,919 you're good. She starts to tell a story very similar 284 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,720 to ours of the same woman who's glaring, doesn't really 285 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,759 say anything and just kind of standing there whatever. And 286 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:28,039 it then also describes like, man, I just don't feel good. 287 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,080 I'm not maybe it ate something for lunch and feeling nauseous. 288 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,039 I'm you know, I'm really hot whatever, And what she 289 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:39,159 also says is that she's putting the dresses back and 290 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,519 she turns around and the woman's right behind her, like 291 00:15:42,639 --> 00:15:45,679 she turned around and just up to her notes. 292 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,639 Speaker 1: Like no sense of awareness or like space. Oh no, 293 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:50,840 that's odd. 294 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: And so again this is now the third person who's 295 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,240 had the same experience with this woman. And at this 296 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,639 point we collectively say to our manager, Hey, this she 297 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:09,039 have you seen her? We're all freaked out. We don't 298 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,519 want to interact with this woman. You know, what do 299 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,759 we do? Would you be able to help her when 300 00:16:14,799 --> 00:16:17,360 she comes here? Because mind you, all of us are 301 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:20,919 early twenties, our manager was in her forties, so we're 302 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,519 still very much thinking, oh, I'm a little I'm a kid. 303 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:27,279 I'm just say maybe, yeah, right, So we're very much 304 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:29,240 still in that I need the adult, even though we're 305 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,519 all adults, you know, but I need an adultier adult, 306 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,639 adult adult, like a real adult exactly. So our manager 307 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,639 just she brushes us off and says, well, you know, 308 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:43,440 she's she's probably a drugs she's probably homeless, she'd probably this, 309 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:47,799 that and the third, and you know, don't worry about it. 310 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,879 You know, she like you have to help her. She's 311 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:54,320 a customer. She comes by another person who in a 312 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,759 horror movie would be sacrificed to the horror mom. 313 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,879 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's not a final girl. 314 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:05,319 Speaker 2: No, no, not final energy at all. So I don't 315 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:07,759 see this woman for the rest of the day, none 316 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:12,200 of us do. We think maybe it was just a random, 317 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,400 bad experience. But again, all three of us the same 318 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,160 exact physical sensations when interacting with this woman. I saw 319 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,720 her one other time, not in the store, but I 320 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:28,319 was driving into work and I was about to turn 321 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,519 left into the parking lot and she was on the 322 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,720 on the other side of the road, standing by the 323 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:37,480 bus stop, just kind of swaying a little bit in 324 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:40,160 the in the breeze. And mind you, this is summer. 325 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:44,119 It is Fresno, California, so it's that dry heat. Yeah, 326 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,359 we're talking ninety something degrees right right, no breeze, So 327 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:49,240 what are you swaying for? 328 00:17:49,799 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: Right? 329 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: Like, you know what you do. But even from that 330 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:58,960 distance across the street whatever, I could still see the 331 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:03,400 same dark like a corner to corner, black eyes, the 332 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,039 same kind of glaring look as she's staring directly at 333 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,839 the mazing. So I light timed screen book it into 334 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:14,640 the parking lot, walk in, and I'm like, yo, I 335 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,240 just saw that lady. I just saw her. Oh my, 336 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,680 And they knew exactly Athena knew exactly who was talking 337 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,720 about the lady, and dresses knew exactly who I was 338 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,000 talking about. And we all kind of collectively went like 339 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,440 shuttered thinking about disparence, and I never saw her again 340 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:33,559 at all. 341 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:37,839 Speaker 1: So ow, I know in your text act you're like, 342 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:43,200 I encountered someone like, you know, going on possessed, going 343 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,359 through a demonic possession. 344 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: I think she was possessed, That's what I was thinking. 345 00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm wondering now though, have you heard of black eyed kids? 346 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: Yes? 347 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: Yes, could have a black eyed adult. I don't know 348 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:55,799 if they're a thing. 349 00:18:56,759 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing is that I wonder if 350 00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:02,279 it was that, because usually I think black eyed kids 351 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:05,839 don't they ask you, let me end like that they 352 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,079 want to be invited into your home, your car or 353 00:19:09,079 --> 00:19:12,640 whatever it is. Yeah, but I mean maybe once they 354 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,559 hit adulthood, they they I don't know. 355 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: They say they act like weird, like they don't act normal. 356 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,640 And nothing about this person was normal, like her standing 357 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:28,000 to close the way it said dresses. That's why I'm like, 358 00:19:28,279 --> 00:19:31,920 was it possessed or was it a black eyed adult? 359 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: Right? And again, like I said, you know, people have 360 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,119 commented saying this person was obviously a you know, a 361 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,039 drug abuser, and you're making light of that. That's not 362 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,519 when I'm doing this, not my intention at all I 363 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,240 would not have told the story if again, I did 364 00:19:50,279 --> 00:19:54,000 not have those physical sensations, and if I did not 365 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,480 have other people who also had that same experience, right, 366 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:03,039 because we've all been around people who probably had to 367 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,680 what you're doing, spoke too much? Whatever it is like. 368 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even the heavier drugs, nobody's eyes turn 369 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,960 you know, completely black. 370 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: Right. 371 00:20:13,559 --> 00:20:16,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't suddenly forget. I mean you can like, 372 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,039 you know, become very sluggish and things like that, but 373 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,960 you don't like get too close to people, or your 374 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:27,799 voice isn't suddenly a deep like right? Yeah. 375 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was I'd say, probably the creepiest thing 376 00:20:32,079 --> 00:20:34,960 that's happened to me. And I live near the Winchester 377 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,079 Mystery House and I've toured that place, So. 378 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:41,279 Speaker 1: Have you seen anything weird? My twin also went to 379 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:43,920 the Winchester Mystery House and she was like, no, it's 380 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,599 just like a normal tour and they try to scare you, 381 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,359 but I don't. She's like, I don't even know is 382 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,599 it really haunted. I don't know. 383 00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: I don't know that it is. I think it's more 384 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:54,799 the story, yeah, more than anything. And you know, it's 385 00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:58,400 an old house, there's old things in there. In terms 386 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,359 of the furniture, the clothing and stuff. And I think 387 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,720 that all that has its own energy. So whether it's 388 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:07,039 haunted or not, you're still probably picking up on the 389 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,759 energy of whoever owned all of these things. 390 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: Right right, that makes sense. Before we get to your book, 391 00:21:14,759 --> 00:21:16,920 do you have any other panormal experiences that you want 392 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:17,720 to share atheen? 393 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:23,319 Speaker 2: You know, I would say not nothing too intence. I did, 394 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,880 you know, drive late at night one time and get 395 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,039 freaked out because somebody was just standing in the middle 396 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:35,440 of the road, just standing, you know, and it was 397 00:21:35,839 --> 00:21:41,799 it was lit, and they were just stockstill, not moving, hurting, creepy, 398 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,599 you know, But I would say nothing of note. I'm 399 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,440 I guess I'm thankful to say that I haven't had 400 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:52,799 any more paranormal experiences. I like to read about him, 401 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,000 I like to write about him, but I don't understand, 402 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:58,359 like I don't want to have exactly. 403 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, one more thing, because you mentioned did you grow 404 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,759 up in Fresne. 405 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,319 Speaker 2: No, So I went to Fresno State. I grew up 406 00:22:08,319 --> 00:22:08,960 in the Bay Area. 407 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: Oh where in the Bay Area? Oh, very nice. I 408 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,119 grew up in Oakland. Yeah, my twitter and I am 409 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,680 from Oakland. And then we moved to Modesto because I 410 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,240 was gonna say, if you had grown up in Fresno, 411 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,240 they say there's a haunted high school there, Roosevelt High School. 412 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: Tracks. I met people who grew up in Fresnel that 413 00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:30,480 mentioned that. 414 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a ghost of a It's always 415 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,480 it's always a theater usually whenever there is a I 416 00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:39,799 don't I guess you know, if someone was to hunt 417 00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:45,200 a high school, it would be a theater, kid like dramatic. Yeah, yeah, 418 00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:48,440 And I wouldn't expect them in the afterlife to be 419 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:52,279 less dramatic. Will They say? The teen's name is Leslie 420 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,640 Chambers and he haunts the theater. And they even supposedly, 421 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,279 according to legend, they have plays and each play they 422 00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:00,680 have to like write in his name that he was 423 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,240 part of the play or the production is going to 424 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:04,559 go bad in some way. 425 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that's pretty cool. 426 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:08,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 427 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,599 Speaker 2: Why do I feel like they kind of made a 428 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,160 movie about very similar. 429 00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: You know, because there's a lot of supposedly allegedly haunted 430 00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:19,759 high schools, and they're always going to involve the theater 431 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000 and someone. So even if it's not about Fresno and 432 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Roosevelt High School, if there is a movie out there. 433 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:28,480 I'm not. I'm not surprised at all, because again there's 434 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:32,519 always either for some reason, the school has a tall 435 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:37,279 tower and someone jumped off this tower, or someone died 436 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:39,559 by suicide in the theater. Like those are always the 437 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,680 haunted high school stories. I don't think I've heard another 438 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:45,319 variation of a haunted high school. 439 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: Right. Well, there was supposedly a haunted building at Fresno State, 440 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,960 and coincidentally, it was the Mass Communications and Journalism building, 441 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,759 which was my major. And the rumor was that somebody 442 00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:02,200 had hanged themselves in the doorway, and so sometimes the 443 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:07,359 doors would open and you know you nobody would be there. 444 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,039 It was just the door would just open by itself, 445 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:17,960 like Motion center doors. So that's you know, that's suspicious. 446 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: Did you see it? 447 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: I did once where I just opened by itself and 448 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,839 I went. 449 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,759 Speaker 1: Well, that's weird. Yeah, it was it late. 450 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,839 Speaker 2: It was it was one like winter. I had a 451 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:38,079 class like you know four whatever saw it booked it 452 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,160 back to my dorms and not today. Not today? 453 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:51,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, that's funny. Okay, Well, let's hear about 454 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:54,880 your book. Should I read this synopsis? I haven't because 455 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,960 I was looking at it because I bought the book 456 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,079 and I'm sure that I read description. I'm like, there's 457 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,480 I don't think there's a single listener that would not 458 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,640 enjoy this book. So the book is called No One's 459 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,440 Going to Take Her Soul Away. Fira Gail is dead. 460 00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:13,400 What's worse, She's in Pandemonia, cast down to the worst 461 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,880 part of this healthscape by a terrifying mercurial goddess who 462 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,240 determines the fate of every being. Sophira knows she doesn't 463 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:25,119 belong in Pandemonia, so she plans to escape, confront the goddess, 464 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,920 and return across the veil back to the land of 465 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,880 the living to find the person responsible for her death. 466 00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:34,200 But the journey is treacherous. Sophira must travel the Path 467 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:37,359 of the Damned, following it through every part of Pandemonia 468 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,319 to make it to the Goddess's seat of power. Along 469 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,039 the way, she meets an irritable yet carrying vampire love 470 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,480 vampires whose touch soothes Sophira broke Sophira's broken heart, a 471 00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:53,119 charismatic werewolf, Oh my god, werewolf's too nurseing a betrayal 472 00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:57,279 similar to Sophira's, and a melancholic demon. This book has 473 00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,720 it all determined to get her freedom by enemy necessary, 474 00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:04,359 though she recruits them as allies on her quest for retribution. 475 00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:07,279 This is Pandemonia after all. Can any of them truly 476 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,519 be trusted? And will Sophia escape or will she remain 477 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:15,400 tortured for all eternity? I mean, sounds amazing. Excise me 478 00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:18,079 haites vibes. Do you play games? In all video games? 479 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: I do not, but you know I wrote this. It's 480 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,240 very inspired by Jontaus and Ferno and and hell Raiser. 481 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,039 Speaker 1: So oh that sounds amazing. 482 00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: Imagine those three things together with vampires, were wolves and demons, 483 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:33,519 and that's the book. 484 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: That's the baby right there of the book's. 485 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the baby. Wow. 486 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what were your I mean you mentioned these three things, 487 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,880 but like what were how long did this take you 488 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,480 to write? Where were the inspiration? 489 00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:44,839 Speaker 2: Like? 490 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: What give us everything? 491 00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: So the idea initially popped in my head with the 492 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,079 line carriage of Blue Debt. That's all that popped in 493 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,480 my head when I initially started thinking of this idea, 494 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,039 and I went through multiple versions of this book, I 495 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,839 would say it's quite It leans a lot into Gothic 496 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,279 horror there's quite a bit of bodyhore, but there's that 497 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,119 Gothic aspect too. The initial idea was it was going 498 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,759 to be set in nineteen oh six, right after the 499 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,480 earthquake in San Francisco, but that proved to be a 500 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,920 little too complicated, though I might still do something with. 501 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,079 Speaker 1: That, you should, you know. 502 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,759 Speaker 2: And I just imagined this person in this carriage of 503 00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:32,440 the dead being taken to you know, Hell and knowing 504 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,839 that they don't belong there, and then I thought this 505 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,880 kind of gives a little wizard of Oz vibes. Then 506 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,559 I wove that in with the Path of Damned being 507 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,839 like the yellow brick road that they have to follow, 508 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:48,480 the three people that the main character meets that helped 509 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:52,279 them along in their journey, and you know, wicked Witch 510 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,519 of the West, and you know, analogous with different gods. 511 00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:58,960 Then I was listening to a podcast about Dante's Inferno, 512 00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:01,240 which is I will always kind of been obsessed with that. 513 00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:06,160 I'm not Catholic or particularly religious, but I've always been 514 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,440 obsessed with the Seven Deadly Sins, thinking why did we 515 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:14,319 choose those? Why specifically? So I just I just took 516 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,759 all of it, and then the Hell Raiser elements came 517 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:20,279 through as I was drafting. What would torture look like? 518 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,240 And what better example than the cinempites? 519 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,839 Speaker 1: Right right? Okay, okay, No, this sounds like a great book. 520 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,079 I'm very excited to read it. Yeah. I wish I 521 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,720 would have ordered it sooner, but then I forgot of NHD. 522 00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:37,519 So I'm like every time I'm like, I'm going to 523 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:39,400 do this, then I don't do it till two months later. 524 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,640 But no, I'm glad at least I finally got it, 525 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,359 so for sure I'm going to read it next. But 526 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:50,279 do you have any other like books in the works 527 00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:50,759 right now? 528 00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:54,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? So I'm actually working on a screenplay. Well, so 529 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,039 I'm working on two screenplays. Actually. Firstly, I'm working to 530 00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:00,880 adapt No One's going to Take Her sol Away into 531 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,799 a movie. You know, I wanted for so long to 532 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:07,680 see this on screen, and I just thought, when I 533 00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:10,599 do it myself, if I'm gonna you know, who better 534 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,440 to put this vision forth than me? I know what 535 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,119 I would want to see on the screen, how I 536 00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:19,000 would want the story to be presented in a different format. 537 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:21,519 And then I'm working on this other screenplay called Every 538 00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:25,279 Last Job, which is kind of based on this tweet 539 00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:30,559 that when viral last Year of Mine. Oh and it 540 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,400 was a picture of n Hathaway and Sundeia looking gorgeous 541 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,559 and stunning and very gothicy. I said that they looked 542 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,519 like queens of rival vampire covens conspiring against a common enemy. 543 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,799 And I do that again that when viral millions of views, 544 00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:53,839 hundreds of thousands of lights and such, people tagging Amazon 545 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,400 and Jordan Peel and Hulu and all this, and then 546 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,960 I went, okay, well, look let me just let me 547 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,480 just write this screenplay real quick for somebody else besides 548 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,400 the right, right, And so you know that that tweet 549 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:11,079 is a big component of this screenplay, Every Last Job, 550 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:14,759 which is about a vampire coven that tears itself apart 551 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,160 when their leader dies and leaves no successor. 552 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: Wow, So that that sounds so fun. I recently started 553 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200 watching a lot of vampire things because for a patron 554 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,759 episode my Twitter and Night, we're going to go through 555 00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:29,599 with their zombies already, but we're just going to go 556 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,519 through our favorite vampire media. And so I've been reading 557 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,279 a bunch of vampire books. But this sounds like it's 558 00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:38,880 going to be so good. I love a I mean 559 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,240 that kind of thing where there's like a group and 560 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:44,640 it's falling apart, like something happened and it's falling apart. 561 00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:47,519 What did I just read? Oh my god, it's sat 562 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:52,000 in Alaska. There's a crime. There's colonies of vampires, like 563 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:56,160 vampires and humans. Oh, the Gathering, that's what it is. 564 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,440 The Gathering Byja Twitter. So good, so good. 565 00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: That sounds good. That sounded really good. 566 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,319 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you should read it. It's so good. Another 567 00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:06,640 one I just read though, that also makes me think 568 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,119 of what you just described. 569 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: What was this? 570 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,519 Speaker 1: I'm so bad at names. This one was The Lesser Dead, 571 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,359 The Lesser Dead. That that's another fun vampire book. Like 572 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,880 there's these vampires that all have agreed to like live 573 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,519 underground basically hidden away. And then there's this like other 574 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,799 group of vampires that threatens basically the existence of all 575 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,960 vampires by doing what they're doing because they're menaces. And 576 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,640 then there's like a vampire fight. I hope and spoil anything, 577 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,400 but that's what Like. I love both those and just 578 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,640 hearing your screenplay, I'm like, no, that's gonna be that's 579 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,240 gonna be good. 580 00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:44,839 Speaker 2: That that sounds so good. You know, I'm so glad 581 00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,920 that it feels like we're in a monster renaissance. And 582 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,880 I say that because I want to see more wear 583 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,559 wolves on screen too. They don't get their shine as 584 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,880 much as vampires, that's true, So I just I want 585 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,720 to be part of that. I want to create stuff 586 00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,680 that people go ooh, I'm getting my vampire fixed. Like, 587 00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:05,519 I'm so excited about Sinners. I loved Nasra too. 588 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: So I have to see that. Still. I heard it's long, 589 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,160 and I'm like, all right, I have to set asign 590 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,799 the good day for this. 591 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:14,319 Speaker 2: She's long long. 592 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what my t told me. Yes, she's long. 593 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,000 Be prepared. 594 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,599 Speaker 2: If you go into it prepared, then yes. It's funny 595 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,519 because I watched it with my girlfriend and she's not 596 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,960 a gothic horror girl. She loves horror, but that's not 597 00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:33,319 her favorite. She fell asleep a little bit, so you know, 598 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,519 I had. When we got out of the theater, I said, 599 00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,839 here's with you, miss babes. But she liked it. The 600 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,519 part she saw she like, so of course she saw. 601 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. And while we're talking about horror, 602 00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:47,160 tell me about your podcast. 603 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:51,079 Speaker 2: Yes, so Horror host to port Group book Club podcast. 604 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,000 So is with one of my besties, Samara, we met 605 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,880 in another book club. Actually we met in Fantasy book Club, 606 00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,200 and we were always the ones wanting to read more 607 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,000 dark fantasy and kind of push that envelope with what 608 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,279 the book wreck was. And you know, a lot of 609 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:11,200 people there were really wanting to read stuff with fairies 610 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,559 and giving very Lord of the Rings kind of vibes 611 00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:14,079 and oh. 612 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: No, not like, what's that book everyone loves? And I'm sorry, 613 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:23,079 but I just couldn't Oh yes, yeah, yes, oh my god. 614 00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:24,960 I just I'm like, I don't know. 615 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the book club thankfully was dedicated to 616 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,880 reading fantasy by Black Brown. Okay, so that was great, 617 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,119 But even so we were wanting. 618 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: You were like, more dark, more dark, Yeah, give me a. 619 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: Little, give me a little scarce, yeah, fantasy. And so 620 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,160 she and I just connected and she thought of the 621 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,599 book club idea, I thought of the podcast, and we 622 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,960 melded it together. We've been doing it for almost three 623 00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:54,039 years now, okay, and it's I mean, it's so much fun. 624 00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,400 We just we talk about everything from the books we 625 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,359 read in the book club we do a monthly review 626 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:03,079 of those books, to what we're watching two different horror 627 00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:07,079 subgenres and we'll do every year, you know, our best 628 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:07,880 and worst horror. 629 00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how fun. Yeah. No, I am positive 630 00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:14,119 that all our listeners are gonna love you and everything 631 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,440 you're doing, because yeah, this is like the same stuff 632 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,840 that we love. You know, what we should do? There's 633 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,960 we have. We read so slow though. We have a 634 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,920 book club associated with the podcast called we called it 635 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,840 the Spookitos book Club for busy people because we read 636 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,920 so slow, and it's mostly it's like we send out 637 00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:36,400 discussion questions on substack and then people were replying, well, 638 00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:38,920 we'll go through our own like recap of whatever book 639 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,119 we chose and then do discussion questions after and then 640 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,519 post the episode, and they don't come out as often 641 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:46,519 because yeah, again we read super slow. But we should 642 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,039 take a joint book to do with your co hosts 643 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,320 and you guys can come on, Oh my god, let's 644 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,199 do it. Let's plan it. 645 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk. That'd be so so much fun. We 646 00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:59,599 just actually finished reading This Cursed House. Well, we're finishing 647 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,960 reading it, this er January book, This Cursed House by 648 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,719 Dale Sendin, which is one of my recommendations because if 649 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:12,079 you love gothic core Southern Gothic Horse specifically, Yes, then 650 00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:16,119 you will love this book. I crushed it in a week. 651 00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: And wow, okay, like, because I have. 652 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,119 Speaker 2: A full time job in addition to doing all this 653 00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:22,559 writing and kind of managing. 654 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, so my reading that covers so good, I have 655 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,119 to just so beautiful so everyone can see it. But 656 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,960 oh my god, I'm let me add this to my 657 00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,039 TVR right now, this Curtis House. 658 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,039 Speaker 2: It's so good and you can get it at the 659 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,199 library because one of the things we try to do 660 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,679 with picking book club books is make sure that whatever 661 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,360 book we can we choose can be gotten at the library. 662 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,800 Led yeah, who you know can just buy a new 663 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,599 book every month, so yes, we always do that. 664 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: I personally love Libby, Like I try not to buy 665 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,800 new books unless I'm supporting you know, authors that I'm like, oh, no, 666 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,199 I love this author. I'm going to buy this no 667 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,079 matter what. But yeah, I try not to buy new 668 00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,960 books and mostly just do Libby audiobooks and like ebooks. 669 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,159 But what are we just Oh, we just finished The 670 00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:14,280 Witches of Olpaso for our our book club, and we 671 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,960 just sent out the questions because for us, we only 672 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:23,599 read author horror written by LATINX authors and then but 673 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,679 for other horror, I try to change what I read. 674 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,760 So mostly I'm like, I stick to either black authors 675 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,199 or LATINX authors because I'm like, for the longest time, 676 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,239 I only read white white authors like and I'm like, yeah, 677 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,119 I think, like five years ago, I'm like, no more, 678 00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:39,199 I'm tired of it. 679 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:43,199 Speaker 2: And that, and that's exactly why we also started this too, 680 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,079 is because we were creating horror by black authors, by 681 00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:50,559 indigenous authors, you know, LATINX authors, et cetera. And so 682 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,760 we will read white authors on our own time, right, Yeah, 683 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,679 only two or three who I actually will read for 684 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,119 them this part, I'm reading black and brown, indigenous, etcetera. Authors. 685 00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:08,199 So that's the book club. So we did this Cursed 686 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,960 House last month. We did The Visitor by Sergio Gomez. 687 00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:16,320 Oh okay, which is a alien Christmas novella. 688 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: Wow, this sounds fun. 689 00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:20,639 Speaker 2: It was so good. Sergio Romez is one of my 690 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,199 favorite indie authors to be self published. He has the 691 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,360 series I think it's Halloween Slaughter. The first book is 692 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,280 called Campslaughter. 693 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I've heard of Campslaughter. 694 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good. I loved it. I haven't finished 695 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,880 the series. But so good to this month it's This 696 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,800 Cursed House. Next month is Devil's Killed Devils by Johnny Compton, 697 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,760 and then March is Our Share of Nights by Marina. 698 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: I want to say, Enriquez, Oh, that is on our 699 00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:56,599 list of like books to choose from, like our super 700 00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:58,840 long ass list. But I haven't wanting to read that. 701 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,199 I feel like I remember seeing that it's super long. 702 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,199 Speaker 2: It could be, I think, but we put pick books 703 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,400 three months in advance. Nice, we can get it from 704 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,559 the library then you requested or you die it or 705 00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:12,480 whatever time. 706 00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: Some of these holes are insane on Libby, like it 707 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,679 gets insane. 708 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we do that three months in advance. 709 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,880 We align it usually with any kind of history month. 710 00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: Oh I love it, love it. Yeah, No, that sounds 711 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,000 so good. I'm going to go back and like listen 712 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:33,239 to all the episodes as well. And it's such a 713 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,280 good way to I think, discover like people you have 714 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:36,719 not read. 715 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, And I think that's why I was also 716 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,159 so glad when you reached out to me, because I've 717 00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:44,039 been wanting to read, to listen to more horror podcasts, 718 00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,840 to support more horror podcasts and just grow that community. 719 00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:48,719 Because you're not that many of us. 720 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, That's what I thought at first when I 721 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,960 first started, I'm like, I feel like there's not that 722 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,400 many of us. But now I'm like, no, they were there. 723 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,800 I just didn't know because it's hard to find. But like, 724 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,519 I have found so many fun especial horror horror. Oh 725 00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:03,880 my god. I always say it sounds like horror. The 726 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,639 word horror, no horror movie review podcast. There's so many 727 00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:13,400 fun ones. Girl, that's scary. Have you heard them? I 728 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,360 love them. I love them so much. They're my like 729 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,119 top and my top ten for sure. And then oh 730 00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:23,119 my god, what is Sharai is the host and she 731 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,840 oh nightmareight we're on fear Street and Blurty Massacre, both 732 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,639 so fun. Oh my gosh. Yes, and they're like they're 733 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,039 out there. You know. She has a are you on 734 00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:33,519 Blue Sky? 735 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,199 Speaker 2: I am just starting to get my feet right in it. 736 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:39,960 I haven't been on it as much, but I'm going 737 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,760 to be on it now. 738 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have no choice but to find new social 739 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,639 media places to go. But she made a list of 740 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,239 like all horror black horror creators and it's huge, Like 741 00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:55,679 I'll look for the link to send to you. Because 742 00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,119 there's so many like cool people that I'm like, didn't 743 00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:00,800 even know we're out here like creating things. And that's 744 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,519 the fun thing about like finding people rip TikTok through 745 00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:07,119 TikTok because you like people that I would have never 746 00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:10,719 found before, like your video. I'm like, oh, this is perfect. 747 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,639 It's like the algorithm knew what I wanted you, you know, 748 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,360 and all the things are doing. So I'm gonna miss that. 749 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,239 I'm going to miss that. 750 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just going to have to make our own community. 751 00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:23,920 I did so. Samorrow did bring to my attention this 752 00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:28,639 platform called slasher. I guess it's a social media platform 753 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,159 for horror. Love you heard of this, Okay, now I 754 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,239 just signed up. I don't know what it's given yet. Yes, 755 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,039 but it could be the place for the horror community. Okay, 756 00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:44,599 you know, I'm I'm cautiously optimistic. 757 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: So right right, Well, before we go, anything you want 758 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,039 to add and then of course tell people where to 759 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:56,199 find you and like plug your things again always sure. 760 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 2: No, I mean I'm just going to say thanks for 761 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,239 having this is so much fun. Love to this again. 762 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,880 We'd love to have you in the Horror host support 763 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,400 group podcast. Test Win and I just want to say, 764 00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:10,559 you know, make sure that to the listeners that you're 765 00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:16,719 supporting these podcasts like follow share. You know, I'd love 766 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,199 it if you can pick up my book no one's 767 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,280 see you. Take your soul away flash to tie the 768 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,840 cover again because it's giving. 769 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,639 Speaker 1: Yes, look at that cover, look at her love it. 770 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,880 I am going to put the link in the show notes, 771 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,840 and then any links you give me on where to 772 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,039 find you as well, that'll all be in the show notes. 773 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,679 And everyone just make sure you first buy the book 774 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,400 and then also follow Amanda Everywhere and her podcast. 775 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 2: Yes, you can find me everywhere at Amanda bee Weaver. 776 00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:48,159 That's my handle on TikTok, Instagram, Blue Sky Threads YouTube 777 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,039 which can revive my YouTube channel, and then horror host 778 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:57,320 support group host spelled at aux. Check our instagram and 779 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,800 if you want to join the book club, if you 780 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,480 just click the link in our instagram, go to our 781 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,719 discord and you're there. 782 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go join right now, All right, perfect and 783 00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:17,199 everyone else, Oh wait, no, I'm forgetting I guess. Spooky recommendations, 784 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,840 did you have one? 785 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 2: Sure? Well, this Curse House was probably my first one. 786 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:25,599 I'll say from I mean that people should. 787 00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, from From I was obsessed. 788 00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: Oh what do you if if you're not watching from 789 00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:32,719 what are you doing? Where? 790 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: Even are you? Yes? 791 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 2: So good? And then Interview with a Vampire is also 792 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,840 if you are a vampire lover. 793 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: I need to watch that. 794 00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 2: Still the Vampire is my top recommendation. I love that show, 795 00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:46,159 so check it out. 796 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: And then do I have speaker recommendations? You know, I 797 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,480 had one and then I I forgot it. But you 798 00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:57,880 know what your book let's all just get that. I 799 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,280 haven't read it. Every recommendation I saw a review use 800 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,320 Rabian reviews all like, well, I think I saw the 801 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,320 star ratings. If people look at those, I am like, 802 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,079 I'm wary of those because sometimes people are like, I 803 00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,599 didn't connect with this person just because it's not like 804 00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:13,920 a white character, and then they'll like so I never 805 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,840 like look at those. But honestly, even the reviews are great, 806 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,239 but again just based off the description, like I know 807 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,000 I'm gonna like it, so can wait to read it. 808 00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,119 But yeah, thank you so much for joining. This was 809 00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:27,559 so fun. I'm gonna go check out the podcast and 810 00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:30,559 join your book club as well. And yeah, thank you. 811 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,239 Everyone else says spooky, We'll catch everyone next time. 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