WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:29.559 When you look on the sky, do you feel the poll? 3 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:39.159 The question why the stories told? And left behind in 4 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:42.759 shadows where the truth we find. 5 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:50.840 They built their tails on grafts and lines on theories. 6 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:58.759 They stake their designed put down here on this solid 7 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:03.880 brown the answer screen. They're all around. 8 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:09.680 Welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. It's 9 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.439 time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. 10 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:15.439 I'm your host, as always, George Jobs. As we record, 11 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:19.280 it's Tuesday, April twenty second, twenty twenty five. I hope 12 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.640 this message finds everyone well when you hear this. We 13 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.519 are in to May and springtime. What a great time 14 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.799 of year. I hope everybody is growing their own food 15 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:31.159 and doing what they can to stay healthy. Before we 16 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.680 get started, two notes. Obviously, by now you know our 17 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:37.159 website has changed. We're on truthernet dot com and even 18 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:38.719 if you put in the old address, it'll steer you 19 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:39.439 to the new address. 20 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:40.239 Lots to do there. 21 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:44.079 We build a whole social media outfit. There's a chat room, 22 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:48.359 lots of knowledge in there. Pardon me, the polinists so 23 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:52.640 bad here. Please check it out. Truthornet dot com questions, 24 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.319 comments or concerns, or you would like to join the podcast, 25 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.599 like Eli is tonight, please send us an email. It's 26 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.439 f E filesguest at gmail dot com. Again, it's fe 27 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:08.000 Files guest at gmail dot com. We'll send you back 28 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:11.680 a very brief questionnaire and we will get you on 29 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:15.319 the schedule, probably for either very late May or June. 30 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.639 So with that being said, let's bring on Tonight's special 31 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:20.919 guest joining us from Indiana is Eli. 32 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:21.520 Eli. 33 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.439 Sir, thank you so much for joining us tonight. I 34 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:24.360 really appreciate it. 35 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.919 Hey, George, I'm super excited, super glad to be here. 36 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:30.319 It's an honor. 37 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:31.479 Well, I appreciate it. 38 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:33.000 Why don't you go ahead and just take a moment 39 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:34.800 or two and introduce yourself to the audience. 40 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:40.360 Okay, yeah, So name's Eli Schultz. I'm thirty years old, 41 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:46.000 currently in Warsaw, Indiana. I grew up in rural Huntington, Indiana, 42 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.680 and I went through periods of being homeschooled, private Christian school, 43 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:53.960 and then finished out in public school. A little bit 44 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:57.319 of everything there, and then I got a bachelor's in 45 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:02.879 biomedical engineering and I worked in orthopedics for six to 46 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:08.759 seven years helping design implants and surgical instruments and and 47 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:13.639 so really into all that, you know, modern mainstream science 48 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:17.599 stuff for sure. And then as of lately, I've been 49 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:19.759 married for a couple of years and i have a 50 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:23.879 five month old daughter now, which is awesome. Amen, And 51 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:28.560 I'm loving being a dad. It's great. And yeah, that's 52 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.319 that's my background for you. 53 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:32.960 What college did you go to? 54 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:39.080 It's a small private school called Indiana Tech and four. 55 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:40.680 Good stuff, good stuff. 56 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:44.840 It's interesting, you know, you did went the biomedical route 57 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.439 with scientism and stuff. And I'd mentioned before my daughter 58 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:51.560 when she graduated, she had her site sets on pharmaceutical 59 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:55.560 tech and she paid out a pocket got her certificate, 60 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:59.240 and it just coincidentally happened. 61 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.800 I can remember if it was. I think it was. 62 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:06.639 Either twenty twenty or twenty one, and her very first 63 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:11.240 day on the job, she understood that quick what she 64 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:12.280 had signed up for. 65 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:13.639 We had kind of mentioned it to her. 66 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.199 But you'll always you never want to tell an adult 67 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:19.000 child what to do, especially at that age, because that 68 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.319 you're telling they'll do it. The more pressure you put 69 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.120 up against an eighteen year old. At least, that was 70 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:26.079 the way my mind worked, because I knew everything when 71 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:29.279 I was eighteen. But it was amazing, very quickly how 72 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:32.120 God worked with her and she understood. My goodness, gracious. 73 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.160 Actually you know what it was during COVID because I 74 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:38.240 think it was a CVS she worked for her first 75 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:40.639 day on the job, she was given this roadmap and 76 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.519 when I mean roadmap, so it was do you want 77 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:44.720 the COVID vaccine? 78 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.000 If client says no, ask this. 79 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.600 If they say yes, give vaccine and then like that 80 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:51.680 tree continues, you know what I mean. It was like 81 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:54.000 a sales pitch, like you're going to work to sell 82 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.879 cars and they're saying, this is how you answer asked 83 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:00.920 the questions. It was very eye opening for her. 84 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:05.240 Yeah, I mean it's so sad that you go into 85 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:08.319 school thinking you're going to be doing one thing, and 86 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.519 you get your degree, you enter the workforce, and you're 87 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.000 kind of like once you have that degree, especially if 88 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:18.079 you have student loans, Yeah, like you were almost enslaved 89 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.079 to this path in your life, like you're dedicated to 90 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:25.480 it and you really don't have much to say because like, 91 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:29.000 you got this degree, that is what you're trained to do. 92 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.800 These are the only employers are going to hire you, 93 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:37.600 and you're at their mercy and imagine being imagine what 94 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:39.199 it takes to step away from that once you have 95 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:41.800 a huge amount of student loans, which is reality for 96 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.319 a lot of people. It's almost impossible, it is. And 97 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.279 Lucky for me, I was blessed enough and I had 98 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.319 all the scholarships that I needed, and I exited with 99 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:54.959 very little debt. And so when it went for me 100 00:05:55.079 --> 00:06:00.399 leaving my career after six or seven years, you know, 101 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:02.839 I didn't have that burden. You know, I was able 102 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:06.920 to once I saw the truth about what was happening 103 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:08.639 milk industry and I was able to say, you know, 104 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:11.399 this isn't for me. Yeah, and I was able to 105 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:15.920 walk away. But and also because you know, I'm married 106 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.759 and we're able to like, yeah, I just my heart 107 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:22.399 goes out to so many people who are working jobs 108 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:25.079 in part of systems that they can't escape, just because 109 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.480 they literally can't. It's really sad. 110 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.519 And that's really interesting because this is twice today that 111 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:33.759 the same kind of conversation has come up that the 112 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.839 Gentleman I interviewed earlier. This afternoon, Josh, we had that 113 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:40.839 same exact conversation. I get so many emails eli from 114 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.040 people not just here in the States, but are around 115 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:45.959 the world who want to get out there and try 116 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.639 to spread the truth. But A they're working fifty sixty 117 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.879 seventy hours a week, especially in this time of hyperinflation. 118 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:56.199 B they're afraid of repercussions, so they don't really want 119 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:57.399 to go public with things. 120 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:00.120 Pardon me, and see. 121 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:03.160 The other thing we talked about was there are a 122 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.519 lot of people who because of the matrix and the 123 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:13.439 way it is built the matrix is, they're very hesitant 124 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.319 to go out on a limb. They could have a 125 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.839 great idea, a great business mind, and they have a 126 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:22.720 plan in place, but they're afraid to take that step 127 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:27.360 because health insurance through the company, or you know, the security, 128 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.360 those type of things. It is really quite the web 129 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.519 they have created for us. 130 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:36.720 Yeah, I know, like I had all the benefits, you know, 131 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.000 I had I called my desk job. I called it 132 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.079 the Golden handcuffs. You know, it was the dream for 133 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:44.959 any kid coming out of high school to end up 134 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:47.319 where it was. I had the best job in the company, like, 135 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.399 you know, helping design the newest stuff that they were doing. 136 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.879 And I mean it was really it was cool in 137 00:07:56.920 --> 00:08:00.839 that sense. But the it's not all pretty it's all 138 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:05.560 you know, you're you. You realize that what they tell you, 139 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:08.480 especially in the medical industry, is like, oh, we're helping 140 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:11.879 people where you're with the work that you're doing every 141 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.319 day is making this huge difference. And then I'm upstairs, 142 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:19.120 right and then you know, you go through the factory, 143 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:21.759 you see the people who are actually doing the real work, 144 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:27.199 and you go out into the real world and you 145 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:30.639 see what people are paying for stuff, and you kind 146 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:34.240 of realize that you're not necessarily helping people as much 147 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:36.720 as those corporate emails want you to believe. You're kind 148 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:41.919 of just this piece in this machine. And then also 149 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:43.720 you kind of have to be honest with yourself sometimes 150 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.519 these big companies like you're not even needed period, you know. 151 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.799 I mean, they're big just to be big. It's it's 152 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:56.840 just crazy, like they're inefficient to be inefficient because I 153 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:00.320 don't even like it's beyond me. I don't even care 154 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:02.799 too much about any of this anymore. I just I'm 155 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:05.879 all about talking about Jesus now and the truth and everything, 156 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:08.320 and it's just I'm so happy I was able to 157 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:12.480 put all that behind me and help people truly. And 158 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:14.080 oh yeah, the one thing I'll say about that. My 159 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:17.039 wife is a dental hygienis, and I would tell her 160 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.919 every day, but she would come home every day of stories, 161 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.639 building these personal connections with people, every day, helping these people. 162 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.080 And I always told her, I was like, how you 163 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:30.120 are making such an impact in these people's lives, like 164 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:32.840 they remember you, you remember them, like you're doing amazing 165 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:38.000 things like actually helping treat people. And I always felt 166 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:41.679 so disconnected from that, no matter how hard my corporate 167 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:45.320 company wanted me to think that it's the same, you 168 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.639 know what, I mean, absolutely, this is not. It's just not. 169 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:50.639 You know, she works for a small dental office, you know, 170 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.720 with like thirty people. You know I work at a 171 00:09:53.720 --> 00:10:00.080 global company tens of thousands of people. I mean, it's yeah, Anyway. 172 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:02.799 In many cases, the bigger the company, actually the less 173 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:03.720 it is helping people. 174 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:05.679 It is maybe. 175 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:09.559 Providing a service to people, but to say it's helping 176 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:12.639 people is probably not the correct term. And I will 177 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:17.120 go back to point in case where the article in 178 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:22.039 September two thousand and one Washington I'm sorry. September twenty twenty, 179 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:27.200 Washington Post, over one hundred thousand small businesses permanently closed 180 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:32.159 from COVID. So again, that is the biggest wealth transfer 181 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:37.240 in the history probably, I mean, you can argue eighteen fifteen, 182 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:39.200 but I'm willing to bet in this day and age, 183 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.000 with the price of everything, that was the largest wealth 184 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.240 transfer in history. And when you give fewer people a 185 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.879 slice of the pie, you are endangering your future because 186 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:53.159 less people of our mindset, of our grouping, the people 187 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:55.559 who actually have morals and care about this world, have 188 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:56.759 a say. 189 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:02.000 Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, especially in the medical industry. I mean, 190 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.320 if there is a company that pops up trying to 191 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:06.440 do the right thing, they just get swallowed up ye 192 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.200 and time and time again because they wave a big 193 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:11.080 check in front of their face, and no matter where 194 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.519 you think you are, when that money comes, it's I 195 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.320 can just see, you know, I see it all the time. 196 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:19.360 They sell out and yeah, it's really hard fighting against 197 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:23.679 the system. They're just so yeah. But no, I really 198 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.879 don't believe in being a victim though in all of this. 199 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:28.480 I think there's a way to fight back. For sure. 200 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:32.159 We're doing that right now. If I showed you this 201 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:33.720 picture five years ago, would. 202 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:33.960 You believe it? 203 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:37.679 Let's it say it's blurry. 204 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:39.480 I'm sorry about that. It's so. 205 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:41.919 I went to Low's today and at the Dunkin Donuts 206 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.440 they had signs out front that said, come grow with 207 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:47.679 a come grow with us starting at eighteen dollars an hour. 208 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:51.399 Now hiring eighteen dollars an hour. 209 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:55.399 When I when I was in college working at Chipotle, 210 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.679 I was making like nine oh five, and I thought, 211 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:00.039 I was like, wow, this is a pretty good. 212 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:03.840 The minimum wage in the mid to like eighty seven 213 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:07.000 was three dollars and thirty five cents an hour. Yeah, 214 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:10.159 and now they're they're they can't And that's what I 215 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:12.720 don't understand. And I want to get to the other subjects. 216 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:16.360 But how this world is even functioning with things like that? 217 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:19.799 Eighteen dollars an hour but nobody's working. It seems like 218 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:22.759 nobody's working. How was this world working? 219 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:25.360 Yeah, I have no idea. I don't know how to 220 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:27.440 do it. I thank God every day that I'm our 221 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:29.080 family is able to do it, because I don't know 222 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.039 how he's helping everybody else do it. I really don't. 223 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:32.919 It's amazing. 224 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.320 Let's get to your journey to the truth, and it 225 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:38.879 doesn't have to necessarily be you know, flat Earth. But 226 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.200 I guess at what point in your life, did you 227 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.039 start to have discernment and start to think to yourself 228 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.559 that these stories, whether it's nine to eleven and the 229 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:48.080 moon landing, just didn't. 230 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:48.559 Quite add up. 231 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.039 Yeah, I'll try to be quick with it. That grew 232 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.080 up with Rush Limbaugh. I mean, that sets you on 233 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:57.639 a good course, I would say, but not, you don't. 234 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:01.480 It's not the whole truth by any means. But when 235 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.720 I would say, like, the first time I didn't trust 236 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:06.519 government was when Obamacare shut up, and it was like, 237 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:08.679 if you like your plan, you can keep it. And 238 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:10.919 then I saw what happened to my parents and everything 239 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.240 they're going through at that time, and I was just like, man, 240 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.480 this government is and here I was just a kid, 241 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:19.759 you know, But even then, I so that was when 242 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:23.519 I first started question And I don't know if I 243 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.399 ever even believed in the moon landing, even as an adult. 244 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.720 I always I don't think I really got into it. 245 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:33.399 Nine to eleven was always I never really thought too 246 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.039 much about it, but it always was real, sketchy, how 247 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:38.360 those buildings just came straight down. I'm always been open 248 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:41.320 to these like conspiracies. I've always known about them, but 249 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.639 I never really got into them because I was so 250 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:48.200 busy with my career in school and everything. What happened 251 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.320 recently in where I just woke up like it was 252 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:55.200 an explosion in front of me. I'm taking in content 253 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:59.399 from which I mentioned earlier as a JT fall as 254 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:03.840 JC on Facebook just randomly started feeding these reels. I 255 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:08.000 don't know why. And it's all about like symbolism, like 256 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:11.759 spiritual symbolism. Everything that is intertwined in every part of 257 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:16.279 reality is spiritual in some way, and that's something I 258 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:19.679 always believed in and talked about. But I really didn't 259 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:23.159 realize how deep that went. And his, uh, the way 260 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.639 he did his content really just sucked me into it. 261 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:30.840 And I remember they, yeah, he is excellent. They mentioned 262 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:35.200 something about biblical cosmology and the flat Earth and they 263 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.399 just went right by it like it was nothing was marbles, 264 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.720 And I was like, wait, what was that? You know, 265 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:45.840 And obviously I've heard of flat earth and I never 266 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:51.600 take it SERI as well, just crazy right and and 267 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:57.000 here I am right, But uh, that what he ended 268 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.720 up getting to. Like when he first started making content, 269 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:03.279 he talk about the little season or the short season. 270 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.240 Right then he kind of got there. And my relationship 271 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:10.320 with Jesus has been huge, like very important to me. Yeah, 272 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:15.519 you know, and when essentially, I mean, you've had other 273 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:17.600 people talk about the Short Season, the little season, right, 274 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.360 they know way more about that I do. But when 275 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:24.440 he was talking about this idea that the Second Company 276 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.840 of Christ has already happened, something that I grew up 277 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:32.559 and almost everybody around here grew up being taught that 278 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:36.320 were awaiting the Second Coming. When someone tells you that 279 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:40.679 you're something you've believed in, I mean like for me, 280 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:44.360 that was huge, like I believe that to my core. 281 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:46.360 And then for him to turn that around, say hey, 282 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:49.159 what about this other idea? And I was like, and 283 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:52.399 when the evidence he had was just biblical stuff, He's like, 284 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.399 just read this, Just read it and tell me what 285 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:58.320 you think. Specifically, things in Matthew and they're talking about 286 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:00.840 these things will happen in your generation. And I can't. 287 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:02.639 I'm not going to quote a bunch of biblical text 288 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:07.559 on it, but the Bible's one thing's for sure is 289 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:11.799 that the Bible was talking about the Second Coming or 290 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:16.639 the Little Season all this stuff, like like it is 291 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:19.320 not absolutely concrete for sure that we are we are 292 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:21.919 waiting second coming to Christ. It might have already happened, 293 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.279 like we should, like Christians today need to know that 294 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:30.559 there are other ideas, and like I didn't even know 295 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:32.159 there was other ideas, Like I didn't even know if 296 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:35.440 there's any other ideas, Like what is this? And it 297 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:39.799 was like really really frustrating like that. I don't want 298 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:43.840 to blame my parents or anything, or even I blame myself. Man, 299 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:45.840 I didn't even read I didn't read the Bible, like 300 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:49.879 I blame myself, Like I'm gonna take responsibility, but I mean, 301 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:52.279 come on, guys, like we need to be talking about 302 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:57.759 these other ideas because we I view it as lying 303 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:03.000 by a mission or only teaching one thing about something 304 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:07.799 as massive as you know, what we believe in the 305 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:13.759 Bible and story of Jesus. Like it's just I don't know, 306 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:14.880 you frustrated. 307 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.720 No, yeah, well you're right. I mean deception is Satan's 308 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:20.559 most powerful tool and he uses it. And that's why 309 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:25.000 even someone you know, five years ago, six years ago, 310 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:29.039 someone who considered himself a person of discernment, I still 311 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.039 laughed at the thought of flat Earth. And there's still 312 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.759 many and again, everybody has their own journey. I don't 313 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.000 want to knock people down because they don't believe it. 314 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:39.680 But everybody I talk to, now there are some people 315 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:43.319 who still I get the occasional email, well what about 316 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:48.359 the final experiment? What about Sharon? And this person and 317 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.119 that person? And I've sent several emails I copy and paste. 318 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:52.960 I have it all prepared, and I don't like to 319 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.839 get into public, you know, knocking people down. But if 320 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:58.799 you just do your research with just a few of 321 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.480 the people involved with at and the fact that they're 322 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:04.200 putting out a movie to make money off of it, 323 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.920 it's just and even so let's just take it at 324 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.279 its face value that they went down there and they 325 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:13.119 saw the sun for twenty four hours, that still doesn't 326 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:18.240 explain gravity, the spinning, the water containment water. I mean, 327 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:20.319 just all of the things we've been talking about for 328 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:24.240 the last two and a half years. And you know, 329 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:27.359 all of these things are meant to number one, I believe, 330 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.640 to split the truth community and number two, just just 331 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.599 plant that little seed of doubt to get you back 332 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:34.240 off the train. 333 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:35.359 That's my belief. 334 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:41.960 Yeah, absolutely so. For so, what happened with me is 335 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.119 I I I was like, I needed I need to 336 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.640 I need to find the truth. So I set out 337 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:50.119 on this mission of finding the truth. And at that 338 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.680 point I was willing to say I can't trust anybody. 339 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:55.960 I can't trust the church, which like when you can't 340 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.160 touch trust the church's I mean, that's a weird thing 341 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.839 to say, you know. And and I slowly started taking 342 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.200 in a lot more content about like seeking the truth, 343 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:10.440 and I came across all the main guys, and obviously 344 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:13.759 I found your podcast. Honestly, when I found your podcast, 345 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:16.119 I was like, this is the first one that pops 346 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:18.000 up on apples, Like there's no way this is a 347 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.680 good one. And because it's the first one that pops 348 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:23.960 you know, yeah, but it turns out it's the Bessel. 349 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.839 I just I just love your podcast, George of it 350 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:32.440 and learning so much, man, I definitely almost every episode 351 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:35.720 I have to get on my phone and like find 352 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:37.759 what you guys have been talking about. You know, I'm 353 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:42.200 constantly learning new things about the different theories. But what's 354 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:48.559 blown my mind on my journey is how much proof 355 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:51.000 evidence whatever you want to call it, there actually is, 356 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:54.960 like and how much information and how many amazing videos 357 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:59.880 there are on YouTube, even Rumble, all these like if 358 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:01.759 you do you want the truth, like if you want 359 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:04.200 to see it's right there in front of you and 360 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:06.960 you just have to go and check it out. And 361 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.240 I desperately try to get my family, my brothers, Hey, guys, 362 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:13.599 just check this out like it's cool, Like just look 363 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:16.720 into it and you don't even have to believe it. 364 00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:19.400 But man, these videos are really cool. Is check them out. 365 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:24.119 My dad won't even will he'll change the subject to me. 366 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:25.599 He doesn't even want to talk about it at all. 367 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:31.839 But that guy loves space, like he just loved it. Yeah, 368 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:36.079 but serious. 369 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:39.759 When when I had Facebook, I could put a little 370 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:42.359 video of my chicken just walking around and it would get, 371 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.960 you know, twenty five likes. And the one time I 372 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.759 actually had the courage, you know, because Facebook just friends 373 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:50.839 and family people, you know, to put something on there 374 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.519 about it, it was like dumbleweeds, not one like nobody 375 00:20:53.559 --> 00:21:00.240 mentioned anything. And it's like okay because for me when 376 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.400 I first actually came across it and took the time 377 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.279 to look at it and realized that man, I was 378 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:09.480 wrong all these years like everything else, I'm excited and 379 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:12.440 you want to tell people about it, and the reaction 380 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:15.160 you get is not what you think you're going to get. 381 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:22.119 Yeah, I would like so for me, like, at first, 382 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:25.799 I didn't know if the flat Earth was more of 383 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:33.000 a metaphor because to me it represents so much, right 384 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.480 and when so to me, it represents more than it is, 385 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.000 like actually flat. Like I do believe it's actually flat, 386 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:43.960 but the idea of it is much bigger than it 387 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:48.400 being actually flat. Right. Do you agree with that, George? 388 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:49.599 I agree one hundred percent. 389 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:52.599 And many people eventually want to start calling this true 390 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:55.799 Earth more than flat Earth, because while it is flat, 391 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.640 we have the hills and valleys and peaks and such. 392 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:01.640 But many people think that the term flat earth has 393 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:03.720 been hijacked, and we want to start getting away with that. 394 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.400 But at the same time, people aren't going to go 395 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:08.640 to Google and put in true Earth, so we're still 396 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:10.200 in that quandary. But yeah, I agree with you one 397 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:10.759 hundred percent. 398 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:16.880 Yeah, So to me, like I was sold you. I 399 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:18.920 discovered this these other ideas in the Bible, right, so 400 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:21.319 I start reading my Bible more, I start taking in 401 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:24.519