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Speaker 1: Hey Ryan, we're back for yet another whirlwind adventure.
Speaker 2: How you doing good? What is going down?
Speaker 1: Whole ton is going down? On our last Commander cookout?
Speaker 1: Final Fantasy Commander deck review If you're wondering, but Brando,
Speaker 1: Hey Ryan, what happened to Final Fantasy ten pre show yesterday?
Speaker 1: Check it out? We went over all the good cards,
Speaker 1: we talked about the counterdeck and all the bullshit. Check
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, not our favorite decks, not ours favorite deck.
Speaker 2: So we spent a little bit less time on it.
Speaker 2: Uncle Brando skip some stuff, and I didn't want to
Speaker 2: skip any stuff because I know everything about Final Fantasy
Speaker 2: and he has to mostly look stuff up on Wikipedia
Speaker 2: to know what he's talking about. But we're doing the
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Okay, let's talk about the first card on
Speaker 1: the thing. Final Fantasy seven, Baby, Is this the most
Speaker 1: iconic entry in the franchise?
Speaker 2: Gary?
Speaker 1: I think it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's not the best, but I think it is. I
Speaker 1: think it is the one that's the most known. It's
Speaker 1: got the most franchising, so the most spin offs, It's
Speaker 1: got the most everything. It's still having.
Speaker 2: New the spinoffs you mean Final Fantasy eight, nine, ten, ten, two, eleven, twelve,
Speaker 2: thirty four to fifty sixteen eighty six.
Speaker 1: No, I mean like Final Fantasy seven, Final Fantasy Make,
Speaker 1: Final Fantasy Remake Part two and three three has yet
Speaker 1: to be released. Dirds of Cerberus an additional spin off
Speaker 1: the mobile game that focused on the Turks. Two different
Speaker 1: movies that were based around Final Fantasy seven. There was
Speaker 1: before Crisis, I remember the Hell. The second one was
Speaker 1: called this is the one. This is the one that
Speaker 1: brought Japanese RPGs into the main stage of popular culture,
Speaker 1: not just video games, actual pop culture. There were trailers
Speaker 1: for this playing at theaters and on television. That's how
Speaker 1: big this game was.
Speaker 2: Can I say something? Yes? Can I just say one
Speaker 2: thing about Final Fantasy seven?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 2: Do you're a fucking nerd?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And a weeb?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, my one of my crowning gaming achievements. I
Speaker 1: beat Final Fantasy seven. Are He's gonna appreciate this in
Speaker 1: one sitting, haul three discs from to back with no
Speaker 1: memory card, so no saves, no bullshit.
Speaker 2: Where did you poop and pee?
Speaker 1: I just paused the game and went to poop in
Speaker 1: the bathroom like a regular person. But then I would
Speaker 1: come back and I would keep playing. It took me
Speaker 1: twenty eight hours, but I did it twenty eight hour
Speaker 1: one gaming session.
Speaker 2: I said, I see your I see your Final Fantasy seven,
Speaker 2: and I'll raise you. Uh. I was playing Tony Hawk
Speaker 2: one one time and my brother fell down the stairs
Speaker 2: and I had enough time to pause the game before
Speaker 2: I went and tended to him because he was, like to.
Speaker 1: Fucking nerd, just throwing that O. Alright, what's the face
Speaker 1: commander of this deck?
Speaker 2: Cold Clod?
Speaker 1: It's Cloud Strife, that's his name.
Speaker 2: Clode Cloud ex Soldier is white green, black on white, green, red, white,
Speaker 2: green read two four four human soldier mercenary Haste. When
Speaker 2: Cloud enters attach up to one target equipment you control
Speaker 2: to it. Also, when Cloud attacks, draw card for each
Speaker 2: equipment attacking creature, for each equipped attacking creature you control.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, then if Cloud has power seven or greater,
Speaker 2: create two trays Jesus, so everything he auto equips something
Speaker 2: when he etb's and has haste.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So if I got like a Geet or something or
Speaker 2: Janta armor, ah, that would do. Pig, that'll do, or
Speaker 2: a sword or whatever he's going to attack for six
Speaker 2: or eight or whatever with haste. Colossus Hammer there we go,
Speaker 2: which is in this deck? Yes, and it costs one,
Speaker 2: doesn't it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, oh, that's gonna be a Colossus Hammer will
Speaker 1: be in play before Cloud is.
Speaker 2: Is there double strike things in the I don't know
Speaker 2: what there should be. They're probably there should be because
Speaker 2: that's a one hit kill because he has HASTE and
Speaker 2: auto equipment. But you only auto equip one anyways, Yeah,
Speaker 2: bare minimum you auto equip because you do, you're gonna
Speaker 2: be he's got between five and fourteen.
Speaker 1: On your first attack, you're gonna draw card.
Speaker 2: And if you have anybody else. Further too, in the game,
Speaker 2: you're gonna draw a second card or third card or.
Speaker 1: Whatever, and it's in white and red. So a lot
Speaker 1: of those four mirrored in cards, if you'll remember, lots
Speaker 1: of those were equipments. They just auto equip and they
Speaker 1: give you extra combats, yes, and they do all sorts
Speaker 1: of neat stuff. All of that will probably be present
Speaker 1: here because yeah, you're gonna beat wholesale ass with it.
Speaker 2: And as if you were gonna buy this pre con
Speaker 2: and maybe like f you Alex does, you don't upgrade
Speaker 2: them and you just play them, but maybe you want
Speaker 2: to cut maybe the couple weakest cards and you do
Speaker 2: something like extra Combat Step, so if you're attacking for fourteen,
Speaker 2: it's actually twenty eight and you instat kill somebody, or
Speaker 2: maybe you do Steel Shaper's Gift and the Armory one
Speaker 2: that lets you search or cigard his Aid which lets
Speaker 2: you put into play in equip stone Forge Mystic, stone
Speaker 2: Forge Mystic.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought about that greatest card of all time in
Speaker 2: white probably wrecked Legacy in modern for a good long time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: great card in this deck, methinks wreck Yeah. So the
Speaker 2: reason we're spending time and talking about this deck is
Speaker 2: because we both think it's good.
Speaker 1: I think this is a really and it's not just
Speaker 1: because it's Final Fantasy seven. I genuinely think that this
Speaker 1: is probably the best commander deck of the four by
Speaker 1: a very wide margin.
Speaker 2: You know. What's actually interesting is when we look back
Speaker 2: to the last set that was treated like Final Fantasy
Speaker 2: is that's Lord of the Rings and off the Hop.
Speaker 2: People thought that the Mortar deck was the best, and
Speaker 2: that was that was like mega power eight man, I
Speaker 2: got twenty five power and I just steamrolled my enemies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: bad guys. But over the course of the last couple
Speaker 2: of years, the riders a Rohan and that is the
Speaker 2: more consistent, higher impact, faster, more resilient, aggressive deck. And
Speaker 2: I think that's what the Cloud deck is when you
Speaker 2: compare it to the Band deck from yesterday, the Esper
Speaker 2: deck from last week, and the mar deck from the
Speaker 2: from the week before. Yeah, I think that this is
Speaker 2: the higher power, more aggressive, and more resilient deck with
Speaker 2: better like interaction.
Speaker 1: There will be more lips off faces and more dinks
Speaker 1: in dirt because of this deck than the other three.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Cloud is gonna take his sword, his Buster sword,
Speaker 2: right yep. Yeah, Okay, I was just testing well done
Speaker 2: and he's gonna no, I was testing you well done?
Speaker 2: Me yes, And he's gonna turn it sideways like he's
Speaker 2: crushing a clove of garlic.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And he's gonna PLoP that down on guys dinks and
Speaker 2: just squish him into jelly like a bookmark. Like there's
Speaker 2: gonna be dinks oozing out the side. Yep, that's what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Correct, Okay, next card, backup, Commander everybody's favorite Final Fantasy
Speaker 1: wayfu even more than Goth Mommy from last week.
Speaker 2: I thought so Tifa Lockhart, and very much so. If
Speaker 2: you see the other art for.
Speaker 1: Her, and this card is outrageous.
Speaker 2: This is the one where it's like, oh, man, look
Speaker 2: at her suspenders.
Speaker 1: You're being held up by her boobs.
Speaker 2: Look at her tight arm sleeves. Can you imagine? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is And to be honest, if you watch Advent Children,
Speaker 1: Final Fantasy Advent Children, sure, I think the fucking Final
Speaker 1: Fantasy seven movie, her movie model is actually way better
Speaker 1: looking because it's just less obvious that she's supposed to
Speaker 1: be like a piece of eye candy and she's just
Speaker 1: a genuinely attractive woman. That's like, it's very cool. Iway
Speaker 1: said they had to use that character model here, but
Speaker 1: they didn't. Then that's fine.
Speaker 2: I didn't even notice we Okay, So Tifa Marshall Artist
Speaker 2: is a human monk. Wrong colors, not in your color,
Speaker 2: wrong colors.
Speaker 1: And that's probably for the best because that would make
Speaker 1: that deck too good.
Speaker 2: Four to four for naya and one with melee.
Speaker 1: That means it gets plus one plus one for each
Speaker 1: opponent you're attacking during combat.
Speaker 2: Okay, So attack a couple of different people and she
Speaker 2: gets big. Okay. Whenever one or more creatures you control
Speaker 2: with power seven or greater, you'll combat damnage two player
Speaker 2: untap all creatures you control. If it's the first combat,
Speaker 2: you get an extra combat.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: So this is your freaking commander, and this is the
Speaker 2: double combat phase step phase commander we've been waiting for. Yes,
Speaker 2: And not only does it have red because it needs
Speaker 2: to have red because all double combats are red. Yes,
Speaker 2: but it also has access to protection vigilance plus one
Speaker 2: counters and the biggest creature suite. That's right, Hell yeah, brother, awayfu.
Speaker 1: And you'll notice that it says power seven or greater
Speaker 1: during the first combat step, not the first time they
Speaker 1: do damage. So if you have three different creatures with
Speaker 1: double Strike doing damage to three different players during the
Speaker 1: first combat step, that's six more combat steps and you're
Speaker 1: gonna win that game. This is a really really good card.
Speaker 1: Really yeah that works.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a really good card. Okay, it's a
Speaker 2: good thing. I know everything about Final Fantasy because you
Speaker 2: know everything about magic.
Speaker 1: It's not just attacking three opponents and then Tifa hitting
Speaker 1: and getting one extra combat. Like, if you set this up,
Speaker 1: this card is gonna just skin blow games wide open.
Speaker 2: You know what I've noticed about the last few pre
Speaker 2: con kind of episodes we've done, like this tell me
Speaker 2: is the main commander for the very good is what
Speaker 2: the deck does?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Cool? Great? Also you could use the backup commander to
Speaker 2: run the deck. Yes, totally fine and serviceable, and the
Speaker 2: deck is still good. But the backup commander is a
Speaker 2: custom build around version where it's like if you do
Speaker 2: this other thing, like if I just went to Fusion
Speaker 2: Gaming online dot com and found Tifa used Coco Nation
Speaker 2: promo code to get a discount on it, because it's
Speaker 2: like thirty dollars yep, I could build this and the
Speaker 2: deck would theoretically be a higher power deck. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Tifa is very very good, very cool.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that's gonna be a neat deck.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if it's gonna be the most
Speaker 1: exciting to play necessarily, because I mean, you're already hitting
Speaker 1: for seven and like that's a lot of doub Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're probably putting people in the ground anyway, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna that hole is gonna get dug real fast. But
Speaker 1: when the Undertaker said, Doug twenty nine holes for twenty
Speaker 1: nine souls, that's what Tifa says.
Speaker 2: When Major Pain said, now every day, same same energy.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Major Pain and instead of it,
Speaker 2: instead of Bam Bam Bigelow is the Undertaker. Can you
Speaker 2: imagine if Major Pain punched out the Undertaker?
Speaker 1: That would be sick. Oh yeah, that would be so sick.
Speaker 2: The Undertaker would come back at the end of the movie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and just get revenge on it. That'd be
Speaker 1: so good. Next card, Sid, Oh god damn it. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so we should talk about Sid real quick because he
Speaker 1: just moved on. Not with the car. This card can
Speaker 1: fuck off. It's whatever. It's a it's a dragoon he
Speaker 1: gets flying on his turn. Whatever the fuck we said
Speaker 1: during our preview episode, I like this card. Actually, what's
Speaker 1: the card that's gonna get? Be the any number of card?
Speaker 1: It's SID And I said it wouldn't be SID because
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be legendary. But he was in
Speaker 1: every game. And what did we get. We got fifteen
Speaker 1: different SID arts all set and it's not this card.
Speaker 1: It's a different card that we'll talk about or set
Speaker 1: review next. So you were right, But I know I
Speaker 1: was wrong because I said they'd never do it, because
Speaker 1: why would they do with any number of card that's legendary?
Speaker 1: But they did it. And and this is technically the guy.
Speaker 1: He's a he's a flea man that like is the
Speaker 1: emperor of a country. He's uh runner, he's the guy
Speaker 1: that runs a school. He's like a headmaster of a school.
Speaker 1: He's an airplane pilot Sola's rock rocket ship mechanic.
Speaker 2: Well, let's focus on that for a minute. He's a
Speaker 2: two two for two human warrior pilot, which matters to
Speaker 2: freakin' me. Equipment and vehicle spills U cast costs one
Speaker 2: less to cast, So he's a manor Rock for vehicles
Speaker 2: that can crew vehicles. MM, I like that. Also during
Speaker 2: your turn he actually has freaking jump, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: jump my guy. During my turn he has flying and
Speaker 2: also two tap return target equipment, don't care or vehicle
Speaker 2: card from a g to my h. Yes, I actually
Speaker 2: like this card and I will play this card.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's very good. He's probably my least favorite character
Speaker 1: in the main cast a Final Fantasy seven. But you
Speaker 1: know what cool it's a cool card and it's not
Speaker 1: the tiny Bronco in the background, so points for that.
Speaker 2: I I appreciate tiny Bronco as a Bronco fan and
Speaker 2: somebody who has a tiny Bronco I appreciate tiny Bronco
Speaker 2: in the background.
Speaker 1: There we have it. Next card, Ryan.
Speaker 2: Clouds Limit Break. I don't actually think that this card
Speaker 2: is as good as people says it is.
Speaker 1: I don't either. I'm not a huge fan of these
Speaker 1: limit limit break cards myself.
Speaker 2: It's got tiered. It's two man a white and one
Speaker 2: for an instant. It's got tiered and you choose an
Speaker 2: additional cost.
Speaker 1: It's a it's new kicker.
Speaker 2: It's like Multi not multi Kicker, but it's a different kicker.
Speaker 2: Escalat that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I actually like it as a like an idea. I
Speaker 1: actually like the design space that they're entering into here
Speaker 1: where you can pick a manocost and the spell does
Speaker 1: different things based on what tier you're paying.
Speaker 2: I do like that.
Speaker 1: I do enjoy that. I just don't think that this
Speaker 1: card is as rad as other people are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's zero extra destroy a tap thing, So
Speaker 2: you pay two to destroy a tap thing. You just
Speaker 2: do it before combat damage, right, and that's what it's for.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or you can pay one to destroy any number of
Speaker 2: target tap creatures with different controllers, so you could potentially
Speaker 2: get three things at once. Like, that's actually freaking good.
Speaker 1: You can kill the thing that's attacking you plus like
Speaker 1: a manadoric over.
Speaker 2: Here, and plus something that attacked last turn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just some other piece of shit that's over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for three. Actually, that's good.
Speaker 1: That's a good card.
Speaker 2: That's on rate. That is three creatures for three menu,
Speaker 2: that's pretty It's like, that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also you could pay an extra four, so it costs
Speaker 2: six total destroy all tapped creature and remember, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: coming around on this card.
Speaker 1: Actually call it shitty.
Speaker 2: Route instant speed. No, I think it's better route for
Speaker 2: six route costs what's eight? I guess route costs seven?
Speaker 2: I think five and two. Actually I like this card
Speaker 2: now now that you call it route Yeah, destroy all
Speaker 2: tapped creatures. The only the only way this card wouldn't
Speaker 2: be good if I'm getting alphaed is if I'm getting
Speaker 2: alphaed with a team of vigilance is vigilantes.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. That's true.
Speaker 2: That doesn't happen very often. No, this card sucks against
Speaker 2: your chromo's will.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, all cards suck against the chroma's mills.
Speaker 2: Spoiler at Also, a chromos will makes things indestructible, so yeah,
Speaker 2: so it sucks anyway. Right, I'm I'm just gonna play
Speaker 2: a Chromo's Will.
Speaker 1: You can't even beat the one Ring? What the hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I play a Chroma's Will and the
Speaker 2: one Ring in the same deck. I might also play
Speaker 2: this card.
Speaker 1: Continue right for good.
Speaker 2: Elena turk Recruit. Is she from Turkey?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Is she from Turkmenistan? No? Does she like turkeys?
Speaker 1: Like the bird that she does? It's her favorite bird?
Speaker 1: Oh that's true.
Speaker 2: She ever take a Turkish bath? Probably Turkish delight? Does
Speaker 2: she like eating them?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Does she like the Turkish delights under the table?
Speaker 1: The big Turk is her favorite chocolate bar?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Is she a hundred? Because I've only ever
Speaker 2: met old people who like big turks, Like Gary's dad
Speaker 2: probably likes big.
Speaker 1: Turks, he does, Okay, Gary's given us thedd. Yes. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. I think that she might be
Speaker 1: an outlier in that category.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you're a hundred. Do you like big turks?
Speaker 1: No? Actually I used to, but I've kind of gotten
Speaker 1: over them a little bit. They're stuck in my teeth.
Speaker 2: You've aged out.
Speaker 1: Now that my teeth are like, I care about them
Speaker 1: a little more and they're in good shape. I don't
Speaker 1: like things ghitting stuck in them.
Speaker 2: When Elena enters, return target non assassin historic card from
Speaker 2: your graveyard to your hand. Oh, whenever you cast historic spell,
Speaker 2: put a plus one on her.
Speaker 1: That's fine. It's not gonna lead any decks.
Speaker 2: She's an assassin, and people are like assassin, like when
Speaker 2: I say, oh, advisor monk, Yah, that's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's fine. She does an assassinatedybody in the game. Also,
Speaker 1: fuck her, and this guy should have been Palmer and
Speaker 1: the Final Fantasy seven fans are gonna they're probably just
Speaker 1: as miffed as I did, as I am that Palmer
Speaker 1: didn't get a card and Hitiger did. And but continue
Speaker 1: with what it does. This is the the head of
Speaker 1: Shinra's like military division. Shenra is the global corporation. That's
Speaker 1: the villain in Final Fantasy seven. And he's the leader
Speaker 1: of their military wing. And he goes go that's his gimmick,
Speaker 1: and he sucks. What does he do in this game?
Speaker 2: Yeh be sucky. He's a four drop three to three
Speaker 2: human soldier. At the beginning of combat on your turn,
Speaker 2: target creature control gets plus x plus oh until ended turn,
Speaker 2: where x is the number of soldiers you control.
Speaker 1: That actually matters, that's valuable.
Speaker 2: That's actually good. Yeah. At the beginning of your end step,
Speaker 2: create a number of one to one white soldier creature
Speaker 2: tokens equal to the number of opponents who control more
Speaker 2: creech than you.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Ah, I don't think that that's very good. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make soldiers left, right, and center, and this second ability
Speaker 2: is gonna do nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll do something once.
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, what soldier deck is gonna have less soldiers
Speaker 2: than you have, just fucking guys.
Speaker 1: It's a cool real rebuild card after a sweeper, right,
Speaker 1: somebody wraps the board.
Speaker 2: I don't hate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you can play head Anger and if somebody's
Speaker 1: ahead of you, you're gonna make a team to kind
Speaker 1: of catch up. Cool.
Speaker 2: I hope I get head Anger.
Speaker 1: I think it's a neat card, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: They could have picked a better villain for this one. Yeah, continue, and.
Speaker 2: I just feel like I'm the millain. HELLI trooper.
Speaker 1: This is a regular mob this final Fantasy seven.
Speaker 2: This feels like it's a Warhammer forty thousand card.
Speaker 1: Kind of is. They have one hand that's a propeller
Speaker 1: and another hand that's a gun, and when you beat
Speaker 1: them up enough, their propeller falls off and then they're
Speaker 1: on the ground and they just have a gun hand.
Speaker 2: And then this, Yeah, this makes equipabilities cost less and
Speaker 2: he's got flying right. Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's whatever. It's a card that exists.
Speaker 2: Soldier military program. Is soldier an acronym for something? Is
Speaker 2: that why it's capitalized?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I've seen a bunch of people asking that, and
Speaker 1: I've never had that question answered for me. It's not
Speaker 1: an acronym as far as I know. It's just the
Speaker 1: name is soldier in all caps, and I don't know why. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's just how it is. But I think this is
Speaker 1: a cool card.
Speaker 2: I know. I'm just not telling you at the beginning
Speaker 2: of combat on your turn, choose one, just one, come
Speaker 2: on in all if you control a commander, oh, you
Speaker 2: choose both. There we go, There we go. Create a
Speaker 2: one to one white soldier creature token. Sure eat or
Speaker 2: and or put a plus one plus one counter on
Speaker 2: each of up to two soldiers you control. So this
Speaker 2: is the soldier thing, right, This is I'm sensing a
Speaker 2: sub theme in Soldier dot deck. Right.
Speaker 1: I think it worked out kind of maybe not at random,
Speaker 1: but in happy coincidence. As Bob Ross would say that
Speaker 1: there's just like soldier or is a legitimate creature type
Speaker 1: in magic. Yeah, they could just kind of piggyback on it.
Speaker 1: And so Soldier deck enthusiasts are getting lots of pieces,
Speaker 1: which I think is cool.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it helps that your ex soldier commander Cloud
Speaker 2: is a soldier.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And for the soldier decks that are limited to white
Speaker 2: or boros, well, now add green, Now add green and equipment. Yes. Oops, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: ultimate magic, Holy ass? Is this card good? Eh?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's kind of just shitty
Speaker 1: Test protection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, permanent you could troll get indestructible if this spell
Speaker 2: was cast from exile prevent all damage that would be
Speaker 2: dealt to you this turn. And it's got fortel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's also good. If I can compare it with red
Speaker 2: like I don't know in this deck and exile it
Speaker 2: from the top of my library and then cast it,
Speaker 2: that would be good, yes, because then it's it just
Speaker 2: teest protection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's fine. This is a cool card and
Speaker 1: thematically very well done because it's part of the game.
Speaker 1: Is oh my gosh, it's holly gonna come through for us,
Speaker 1: and then like way later in the game it shows
Speaker 1: us like as far as the game storytelling, and like
Speaker 1: thematic very good, very well done. So neat card, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Neat card, that's fine. It's fine. Avalanche we're joining them. Hey.
Speaker 1: They're an underground resistance movement, not as good as the
Speaker 1: Returners from six, but they are present in seven who
Speaker 1: are fighting against the Shinra Nuclear Power Company Electric Power
Speaker 1: Company I guess is what they are, and you know
Speaker 1: what they do to help out people. They blow up
Speaker 1: nuclear reactors.
Speaker 2: That's totally what I would do.
Speaker 1: Right, if you're trying to help out people in your city,
Speaker 1: you want to blow up nuclear reactors in the city, right,
Speaker 1: that's what they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those nuclear reactors are stealing jobs and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, spoiler warning, all the all three of the people
Speaker 1: in this card definitely eat shit.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna read it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just keep going Kate sith, I like, this
Speaker 1: is this one good?
Speaker 2: The character a cat Moogle three three or red three.
Speaker 2: And let's see if I can find on my screen
Speaker 2: so I don't have to read it off the freaking
Speaker 2: big screen, which sounds like it's easier, but it really
Speaker 2: isn't far away. At the beginning of combat, on your turn,
Speaker 2: scry one, then exile the top card of your library.
Speaker 2: You may play that card this turn. Oh see like
Speaker 2: that that exile card. Yeah. When you exile a card
Speaker 2: this way, target creature you control gets plus X plus
Speaker 2: O until any turn where X is that card's manna value.
Speaker 2: At the beginning of combat, I'm making one of my
Speaker 2: things bigger provided I'm exiling a non.
Speaker 1: Land and I can play for an instant sure, because
Speaker 1: timing rules still apply. That's why I think this card
Speaker 1: falls short. I think it should do this at the
Speaker 1: beginning of your first main phase. You should be able
Speaker 1: to do that because if you reveal a creature or
Speaker 1: an equipment, or a sorcery, or an artifact or an enchantment.
Speaker 2: This doesn't ignore timing rules.
Speaker 1: Or a battle or a player player planes walker planes walker.
Speaker 2: This doesn't ignore timing rules.
Speaker 1: I don't think. So you may play that card this turn.
Speaker 1: That doesn't say it breaks the timing rules.
Speaker 2: It's not a tolly well it TALLI says the same thing,
Speaker 2: doesn't he.
Speaker 1: That's all he says. You play them like right then
Speaker 1: it's part of the resolution this is you can play
Speaker 1: them later if you want. Oh yeah, So I don't
Speaker 1: actually know how good this is. I could be wrong
Speaker 1: correctly in the comments if I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh Gary, hey me, look at.
Speaker 1: That ship I want I on TV. We got a camera.
Speaker 1: We got a camera failure.
Speaker 2: Everybody, We've got a camera fail I'm just gonna move
Speaker 2: to the next card. The next card someone Kyuna Khuna.
Speaker 1: Because I was hold him Kajata. He's probably my favorite
Speaker 1: someone in the game actually for like the actually the
Speaker 1: actually does that mean? It's a I forget what it is.
Speaker 1: I used to know who Kajada was, but it's no.
Speaker 2: But why why why do we gotta summon guys? Like?
Speaker 2: Why do we gotta do that? We don't we already
Speaker 2: know that we're summoning them.
Speaker 1: The card isn't very good, so we can probably skip it.
Speaker 1: This good thing we went to this now we had
Speaker 1: ultimate magic, holy.
Speaker 2: Ultimate magic, holy fuck. This card's good.
Speaker 1: All the same things apply to this card. Yes, Metior
Speaker 1: Meteor was the opposition forced to Holy in fantasy, so
Speaker 1: like it. Very is very impactful. Again, this card very
Speaker 1: very flavorful as well as being excellent.
Speaker 2: Just wait a second, did you do you mean to
Speaker 2: tell me? Are you telling me that meat is the
Speaker 2: opposite of hole?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I I tend to agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you beat your meat into a hole enough,
Speaker 2: the hole just becomes meat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, use use your use the visual side of
Speaker 2: your imagination.
Speaker 1: I shall what does this card you wrote?
Speaker 2: Okay? Ultimate Magic Whole Meat is a sorcery for Red five.
Speaker 2: Ultimate Magic Meatthole deals seven damage to each creach if
Speaker 2: this spell was cast from exile for each opponent, choose
Speaker 2: an artifact or land that player controls, and you destroy
Speaker 2: those permanents. And it's got fourtel for red and five,
Speaker 2: which is the same as Red and five.
Speaker 1: I think I like Star of Extinction better because it's
Speaker 1: one man that kills one land. But it does twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does fucking twenty and twenty. Here's some brandology for you.
Speaker 1: Twenty is a big number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty more than seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know what though, what a Star of Extinction costs
Speaker 2: to cast?
Speaker 1: Seven?
Speaker 2: Oh, this costs six, and you know, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I should have left it. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm thinking is in my cast deck where this is
Speaker 2: the kind of effect that I want. Right, seven and
Speaker 2: eight I can cast for free, but only off of
Speaker 2: one or two cascade spells. Right total costs six. I
Speaker 2: can cast off of like a dozen things in my deck. Okay,
Speaker 2: so this is like and seven is gonna probably get
Speaker 2: nearly anything.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, seven, seven will do it. Twenty is too
Speaker 1: much in most cases, but I'm just saying twenty is more.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, Vincente already Vincente not as.
Speaker 1: Good as the main set version of himself.
Speaker 2: Oh, not as good as Vincente who used to do.
Speaker 2: I'm wrestling competition for Red Bull.
Speaker 1: Like man, that guy's so awesome. I missed that guy
Speaker 1: to face. I miss you, dude. If you're watching, I
Speaker 1: hope I see you again at some point in life.
Speaker 1: Is you're a cool guy?
Speaker 2: I don't yeah, read the card run, I don't want
Speaker 2: to read it. Okay, fine, this is a three to
Speaker 2: three ass ass in for three, so he's good already.
Speaker 2: He's got menace that makes him better. Whenever one or
Speaker 2: more creatures you control deal combat damage to a player,
Speaker 2: put a plus one on Vincente. Also, whenever Vincente deals
Speaker 2: combat damage to an opponent, it deals that much damage
Speaker 2: to each other opponent. If Vincente's power is seven or
Speaker 2: greater or it's pretty good, that's actually good. If I
Speaker 2: can buff them, then everybody's just gonna take seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're gonna slap some equipment on him, you
Speaker 1: find that one guy that just got the one blocker up,
Speaker 1: you'll swing in. Get him for nine? Bro, who's for nine?
Speaker 2: Who's the who's the commander that f you? Smithy plays?
Speaker 2: That's uh? When Etb's choosing opponent. Whenever I get hit,
Speaker 2: that opponent gets hit two. This guy goes in that deck.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Very much. That's a four color one from twenty sixteen race.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name, but there are people out
Speaker 1: there screaming at us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put it in the comments.
Speaker 1: If we still had Joe, he would put it on
Speaker 1: the screen. But we don't, so we won't, and you
Speaker 1: guys just have to put in the comments.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's gonna kill me. I'm gonna look it
Speaker 2: up when we move on. Saskia, Saskia. Yeah, there we go,
Speaker 2: did it, Saski? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Vincente and Saskia butt buddies.
Speaker 2: They are best friends.
Speaker 1: You freaking fuck off. Let's just keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her art's wrong too. That speedlin's in front of
Speaker 2: her leg, but that that propeller thing is behind her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's her weap and it's stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be chopping off her leg.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: If you're watching on YouTube, this guy's almost good. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, what's his name? Burger Berger Jen Bugenhagen Bugenhagen, Yeah, Copenhagen, Bugenhagen,
Speaker 2: Burger Joint.
Speaker 1: He goes, oh that's his catchphrase.
Speaker 2: Oh that makes me like him a lot less.
Speaker 1: Oh No, he's cool and he can fly and he's
Speaker 1: an old man. No, he's he can reach, and his
Speaker 1: grandson is a dog that talks.
Speaker 2: None of that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it's awesome. I like Bugenhagen.
Speaker 2: He's okay. Buckenheymen is a one three rocker Hymen button Hymen.
Speaker 2: Oh come on.
Speaker 1: Now you got it. It took a while that you got.
Speaker 2: You got there, okay. He's a one to three human
Speaker 2: shaman for green one. If this guy had Haste instead
Speaker 2: of reech Man, he would go in my CEDH deck
Speaker 2: because at the beginning of your upkeep, if you control
Speaker 2: a creature with power seven or greater, you draw card,
Speaker 2: which is just draw card in my deck drawn extra card.
Speaker 2: Also tap to add one man of any color.
Speaker 1: That's very good.
Speaker 2: This guy's good.
Speaker 1: He's a very good card.
Speaker 2: I think this guy he.
Speaker 1: He will leave zero DH decks. Goddamn, is he a
Speaker 1: good card.
Speaker 2: He's got three toughness, which is surprisingly relevant on manadorcs.
Speaker 2: He's a man a doorc for two with reach, and
Speaker 2: he's got three toughness so you can block with him.
Speaker 2: He prevents chippens, and also he draws you a card
Speaker 2: if you play a big guy. I think this card's
Speaker 2: like just it's good. He's just he's just a good
Speaker 2: magic card.
Speaker 1: It's a very solid magic the gathering point card. I'm
Speaker 1: happy that my boy got done.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, button Heimen happy, but I like him. I
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: I like this one.
Speaker 2: This card's freaking man, there's like there's good cards in
Speaker 2: this deck.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like this one. I like this and
Speaker 1: the The art is the cocoon in which Cephyarroth is
Speaker 1: like incubating at the end of Final Fantasy seventies is
Speaker 1: one of the last scenes you'll see during the game,
Speaker 1: right before you cast nights the round on it and
Speaker 1: to just eat shit.
Speaker 2: Well, don't do that, life stream blessing. This is an instant, instant, instant.
Speaker 2: This is an instant green green four draw x cards
Speaker 2: x is the greatest bigliness among creatures you controlled as
Speaker 2: this spell was cast.
Speaker 1: So you can't respond to me playing this by killing
Speaker 1: my biggest dude, because it still counts my biggest dude.
Speaker 2: Yep. Also, if this spell was cast from exile and
Speaker 2: it has foretel, you gain twice x life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if I'm going to cast this up for six
Speaker 2: and draw five, I'm also going to gain ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I if I cast it from exile, with Fortel's right,
Speaker 2: and the foretell is five, and the Fortel like to
Speaker 2: suspend it to foretell it is to So total investment
Speaker 2: is seven. But I can put on away so I
Speaker 2: can go two and five.
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. It's an instant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's good.
Speaker 1: It's a good card. I like the good ass card.
Speaker 1: If I want that for my av deck, well yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm fuck gating life. I'm just gonna drop
Speaker 1: a buch of cards.
Speaker 2: I want this for my cascade deck.
Speaker 1: So good.
Speaker 2: And if it's like pay six and I cascade and
Speaker 2: draw three or four, but I gain twelve, six or
Speaker 2: six because X is just two X, Like I don't
Speaker 2: know if you draw three.
Speaker 1: Or six you're gonna through three or four, you're gonna
Speaker 1: gain six. Right, Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I think it's good. Is this guy good? Professor? Whole hold?
Speaker 1: No, this card can fuck off. Honestly that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of complicated bullshit.
Speaker 2: That hap summoning materia to meria material That's what I said.
Speaker 1: And then it's got baja moot zero in the background.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally knew that.
Speaker 1: I know, just skipping over it.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just Erath last Ancient. That's her, Ah, human, cleric,
Speaker 2: druid man. She got lots of creature types, none of
Speaker 2: them I care about.
Speaker 1: Well, human is actually relevant and I hate humans both exist.
Speaker 2: I hate humans. Yeah, she got life link a four
Speaker 2: drop three five life linker at the beginning of your
Speaker 2: end step. If you gained life, this turn, return target
Speaker 2: creature card from your graveyard to your hand. If he
Speaker 2: gains seven or more life, this turn, return that creature
Speaker 2: to the battlefield instead.
Speaker 1: Neat ah.
Speaker 2: I think seven seems like a big amount, but when
Speaker 2: it talks, when you're talking about life gain, it actually ain't. Ye.
Speaker 1: I've played Magic the Gathering several times with five color
Speaker 1: mono white Angeleran and he he gains seven life every
Speaker 1: fucking turn. And I don't mean his turns. He gains
Speaker 1: so much life, that's what he does.
Speaker 2: Five color mono white angel Ayn.
Speaker 1: All he does is gain life.
Speaker 2: Never heard of her?
Speaker 1: Fuck? Yeah, he's build this. I think that has to
Speaker 1: be awful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good thing that does. Angel in there?
Speaker 1: God yah, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's going to an angel deck though, which one? Right?
Speaker 2: I think I think that this card is good because
Speaker 2: a gift of life or whatever. It's it's like an
Speaker 2: instant for white one and it just says gain eight
Speaker 2: life that just becomes reanimate or animate dead like a
Speaker 2: guy like stream of life, stream of life x equals whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you just it's like reanimate. I think that this
Speaker 2: card is actually cool because it through doing white things.
Speaker 1: You do black things, like old school white stuff. That's
Speaker 1: actually pretty Yeah, I think it's cool. That's actually cool.
Speaker 2: Gucci Okay, beret bear it. Oh, but it's French. He's
Speaker 2: obviously No.
Speaker 1: He's definitely not. He swears lots.
Speaker 2: Well, French people could swear.
Speaker 1: Not in not the way he does.
Speaker 2: Oh he doesn't say tabernac.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he says fuck. Oh yeah. Did you see
Speaker 1: their fort Nah. They have to censor it because it's
Speaker 1: the nineties.
Speaker 2: Come on, I know it's not Commander cookout, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Tell you that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Beret avalanche leader. Yeah, is a four drop reach
Speaker 2: around her four to four human rebel. Whenever an equipment
Speaker 2: you control enters, you get a two to two rebel,
Speaker 2: and at the beginning of combat, on your turn attach
Speaker 2: an equipment to a rebel.
Speaker 1: I just want to point out that's a gruel equipment commander. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's number two hundred and twenty eight things that grule
Speaker 1: can do.
Speaker 2: I suppose and it does it.
Speaker 1: Fine, Hey, shut up.
Speaker 2: We just went over Erath Last Ancient. She's doing freaking
Speaker 2: reanima and she's Celesnia. Yeah, get bandits whatever. Barrett and
Speaker 2: his friend. Oh, I thought there's another Barrett, isn't it.
Speaker 1: There's another card with Barrett on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is not it. This is Red nine thirteen.
Speaker 1: Right thirteen, my favorite character in the game. I really
Speaker 1: like him a.
Speaker 2: Lot because he's a dog with a mohawk.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, any talks and he beats wholesale ass and
Speaker 1: he's very strong.
Speaker 2: Totally do that. This is a three to three vigilance
Speaker 2: trample beast warrior not dog whatever whatever. Yeah for gruel
Speaker 2: and one so other modified creature control have vigion tramp
Speaker 2: and those are things that are equipped, things that are
Speaker 2: enchanted by things like enchantments you control or counters on them.
Speaker 2: That's modified yep. And also when Red thirteen enters return
Speaker 2: target or equipment from your graveyard to.
Speaker 1: Your hand, cool. I like him. I think that's a
Speaker 1: cool utility card, and I think he has a cool
Speaker 1: passive effect.
Speaker 2: I think that if you're playing like if you're playing
Speaker 2: a gruel equipment deck, this just straight up replaces Eternal Witness.
Speaker 2: This replaces Eternal Witness because it's going to do the
Speaker 2: same thing like how often am I going to get
Speaker 2: a Lanna or elf back in my equipment deck versus
Speaker 2: getting my yeah, exactly, a sword back yes or majeet yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also it gives it modified guy's vigilance and trample.
Speaker 1: Directly into tan of the butt sewer. There's where he's
Speaker 1: going directly in there. And you know I'm going to
Speaker 1: replace Eternal Witness. That was the very replacement I have
Speaker 1: already planned for this card.
Speaker 2: It's like I've played Magic at least one time so well.
Speaker 1: And and Final Fantasy, Yes, and Final Fantasy obviously.
Speaker 2: Obviously this card the extended version of this that's available,
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong only in Collector Boosti's yeah,
Speaker 2: quite expense.
Speaker 1: Have you did you hear this?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen. That's the sound of a million weaves
Speaker 1: having an orgasm.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was the sound of money leaving
Speaker 2: your wallet.
Speaker 1: Because it's well, it's the same thing. Really, is seph
Speaker 1: Roth is on a card?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He's the big villain a Final Fantasy seven. Everybody loves this.
Speaker 2: Guy because you've got long hair and a catana and
Speaker 2: he's wearing like a robe.
Speaker 1: Apart from the scene where he burns the city down,
Speaker 1: which is what's being shown in the art there. I
Speaker 1: actually kind of think he's sort of lame. He tries
Speaker 1: to he tries to cause mass extinction on a planet
Speaker 1: because his mom didn't love him. Like, this guy sucks.
Speaker 2: Well, it's I mean, he could have done something more
Speaker 2: productive like started and only fans or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like suck it up, bro, Like come on, man.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't even find his card. Oh
Speaker 2: here it is. Okay, Ceph, you're off Fallen hero Okay,
Speaker 2: you're ready for this.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: He's a seven to five for White red three. That's
Speaker 2: five man of seven five.
Speaker 1: That's fine, Human.
Speaker 2: Avatar SOLDI. So he's following suit human and soldier and
Speaker 2: avatar for two. Whenever Sepheroth attacks, you may put a
Speaker 2: cell counter on target creature until end of turn. Each
Speaker 2: modified creature you control has base power and toughness seven
Speaker 2: to five.
Speaker 1: That makes the matic sense. Sure it actually does.
Speaker 2: I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 1: I'll give you that one.
Speaker 2: Also three sacrifice a modified creature, which is probably anyone
Speaker 2: that you have. Return this card from your graveyard to
Speaker 2: the battlefield tapped.
Speaker 1: Also very on theme. This is actually a very well
Speaker 1: designed card and a very good card, although I dunk
Speaker 1: on the character, but I think that sepharav falling here
Speaker 1: was actually a really good commander card, and I think
Speaker 1: we will see it helming decks. I really do. I
Speaker 1: think that we're gonna see this card around lots.
Speaker 2: People are gonna cut this card out of this deck
Speaker 2: and put in it like an equipment, like a sort
Speaker 2: of feast and famine or a fire and ice or something,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna take their Sephar off and they're gonna
Speaker 2: make a whole new deck out of it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's what I think. I really do. I think that
Speaker 1: people are gonna build this deck, and I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a really really cool deck.
Speaker 2: Yes, like the people who took their their Suraman out
Speaker 2: of the Mortar pre con and built a Sourmon deck
Speaker 2: and have their pre con that's modified.
Speaker 1: Or you're gonna add red and white to your Hydra
Speaker 1: deck and your hydras are just going to be even
Speaker 1: more beastly because now they're not zero zeros with counters
Speaker 1: on them. Now they're seven fives with counters. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Even I don't even need counters. I don't know what
Speaker 2: are the counters for when I got seven.
Speaker 1: Five right exactly, So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I want to play my green X equals zero seven
Speaker 2: to five. There it is, or however, the math shape.
Speaker 1: Exequals one, yeah, eight six, pretty good?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is this card good? This is Conformer, sure sho.
Speaker 1: That's a Ufie's ultimate weapon in the game.
Speaker 2: This doesn't seem very ultimate, weapony.
Speaker 1: It's actually not very good. It actually does less damage
Speaker 1: than the weapon that precedes it. In the escalation of
Speaker 1: powerful weapons in the game.
Speaker 2: Well, let's go to one wrecking ball arm.
Speaker 1: This this equipment should have been the Buster Sword. Dang it,
Speaker 1: Like Clouds Buster sword not being in this deck is
Speaker 1: a big, big, big miss, this card being a throwaway
Speaker 1: equipment from the game. I think with the Buster Sword
Speaker 1: not being present in the deck, I think that this
Speaker 1: one is a It's a big miss.
Speaker 2: Oh, because I was gonna say Cloud's Buster Sword exists, Branda,
Speaker 2: but it's not in this it's in the main set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not in the it's not in the Commander deck.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you have to be able to open
Speaker 2: up Cloud's buster sword, because it's a jerk off card
Speaker 2: in Booster pack.
Speaker 1: Was it good called a Cloud's big sword or sword
Speaker 1: that's big or whatever the file?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Instead of that, you got
Speaker 2: a wrecking ball arm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is sod. If you had a gatling gun
Speaker 1: for a hand, which Barrett does, are you gonna cover
Speaker 1: it with a fucking bowling ball that you can hit
Speaker 1: somebody with? That's never gonna happen. I remember the first
Speaker 1: time I equipped this is the Yeah he's gonna fucking
Speaker 1: shoot giant cannon balls now, and it's like, oh no,
Speaker 1: he just hits some with his hand. This, this is stupid.
Speaker 2: Equip Creature is base power and toughness seven to seven
Speaker 2: and can't be blocked by Creature two or less, so
Speaker 2: no chumping'. Yeah. Also equip Legend three, equip Regular seven.
Speaker 1: It even says equip this to Cloud do a thing?
Speaker 2: Does Cloud equip that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, it's Barrett is.
Speaker 1: Yes, only Barrett can use that weapon. It says equip
Speaker 1: Tifa do the thing like, damn it. This should have
Speaker 1: been the Buster Sword. It's a big flavor failed really
Speaker 1: cool card though. We'll also go into Tan and the
Speaker 1: butt sewer because now my two to two is seven
Speaker 1: to seven. That can't get jumped and you know what
Speaker 1: that means, SAPs.
Speaker 2: I love getting SAPs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, that's the last card in the whole set,
Speaker 1: is it? That's the last commander new card that we
Speaker 1: have to talk. Oh my god, we finally did it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna do a thing here. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you something.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, thus far as a final fantasy, and I'll emphasize.
Speaker 1: Huh fucking nerd. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Are you appreciative? Disappointed? Just regular appointed? Are you whelmed, overwhelmed, underwhelmed?
Speaker 2: What is the whelm level of Uncle Brando Brando?
Speaker 1: I am? I think overall. I think I'm underwhelmed, just
Speaker 1: because again I'm one hundred percent comparing this set to
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings in every way, because in my
Speaker 1: head they should have been the same. I know this
Speaker 1: is a standard legal set, so you have les leeway.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but the fact is I wanted this
Speaker 1: These decks. Specifically because these aren't standard cards, I wanted
Speaker 1: them to be a little better flavor wise. It's great
Speaker 1: as far as a Final Fantasy fan goes for wreck
Speaker 1: except for Wrecking Ball arm I can read these cards
Speaker 1: and go, yes, I understand that. Ye, I like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great job flavorfully giving the fans service that I want.
Speaker 2: And at some point that does matter. And if the
Speaker 2: card isn't as powerful, but it is synergistic. Remember I
Speaker 2: said last week, we are in the synergy era of Commander.
Speaker 2: You can do just as good of a job with
Speaker 2: your synergy based Final Fantasy deck that is, card by card,
Speaker 2: lower powered, yep, but just as good of a stack
Speaker 2: of one hundred cards.
Speaker 1: It slivers versus OLDRASI right, you get, the more you get,
Speaker 1: the better your deck is, versus having one great, big
Speaker 1: powerful thing.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what we're getting here, so I think.
Speaker 1: But power level is a little lower than I kind
Speaker 1: of had hoped for. But overall, I think that there's
Speaker 1: lots of cool stuff here, and there's a deck I'm
Speaker 1: certainly very excited to build. If you watched our pre
Speaker 1: show yesterday and when we talk about the main set
Speaker 1: next week, there's lots of really cool stuff. But so
Speaker 1: I think that anybody who buys these, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to take these out to a general commander game
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be able to fuck people up.
Speaker 2: With was that was my next question is are these decks?
Speaker 2: Are they interesting? Are they manageable? Like that counters one?
Speaker 2: I always think for new players, which is maybe not
Speaker 2: final Fantasy universes beyond pre con, maybe that's not where
Speaker 2: the new player goes first. But as a newer player,
Speaker 2: when you're like, oh, everybody says this deck Commands one
Speaker 2: said that this is the most powerful pre con of
Speaker 2: this year. I'm going to spend one hundred dollars or
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars on this pre con and then have
Speaker 2: it be unmanageable because it's so complex. Every card has
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand words on it. I'm not complaining, I'm
Speaker 2: just I'm just observing and kind of wanting your opinion.
Speaker 2: Are these do they fall into that trap or are
Speaker 2: they more straightforward and we can say, oh, the Naia
Speaker 2: one is very much an equipment based soldiers Matter deck,
Speaker 2: and I can figure that out.
Speaker 1: I think overall all of them, with the exception of
Speaker 1: Final Fantasy ten that's the band Counter's deck.
Speaker 2: YEP.
Speaker 1: I think that all of them are perfectly straightforward and
Speaker 1: infinitely build aroundable, and that includes ten, Like these are
Speaker 1: decks that are great on their own, and there's a
Speaker 1: big opportunity for you to just go out and turn
Speaker 1: it into something else, which I love that as far
Speaker 1: as that this is a total home run for Magic
Speaker 1: the Gathering. Any one of these decks you pick up,
Speaker 1: you're gonna play it, You're gonna like it, You're gonna
Speaker 1: take a card out of it that you really really like,
Speaker 1: and you can instantly build a deck.
Speaker 2: Around, make a new deck of or if I open
Speaker 2: up other Final Fantasy Products, like we're going to do
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, that's right at the CCO experience. If
Speaker 2: I find a card that I want to put into
Speaker 2: the pre con for me, if I got like if
Speaker 2: I just snapped my fingers and these four precns appeared,
Speaker 2: there's cards that I want to pluck out of the
Speaker 2: pre con and put into my current decks, And there's
Speaker 2: cards from the Final Fantasy product that I want to
Speaker 2: put into the pre cons yep. So I could easily
Speaker 2: just make that one for one like direct lateral exchange
Speaker 2: two decks and now I've got two decks, or or
Speaker 2: I could take a legend out and make a whole
Speaker 2: new deck like you said, right, So there's so there's
Speaker 2: options and and I think that that's valuable. Sometimes with
Speaker 2: with regular sets, I don't feel like you get that
Speaker 2: because there's one pre con that's like really good and
Speaker 2: it just happened in in Ether Drift, right, the zombie
Speaker 2: one was so much, so much better. Not that the
Speaker 2: other one wasn't good or I wouldn't want to play
Speaker 2: with it, but it's.
Speaker 1: The end of the day, one is better.
Speaker 2: Am I What am I doing with this? Do I
Speaker 2: use the backup commander? Build a new deck? Do I
Speaker 2: slot things out? Do I upgrade it? Like? Does it
Speaker 2: feel as good? And it's just like nothing is inspiring
Speaker 2: me to want the deck that's way less good. And
Speaker 2: all of these, even the counter one, is something that
Speaker 2: I could say, Oh I could, I could do this
Speaker 2: and this and this.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see whatever I think this. Maybe
Speaker 1: this is just me fanboying a little bit, but I
Speaker 1: really do think that this crop of Commander decks are
Speaker 1: going to result in many more Commander decks than let's
Speaker 1: just say the last year's worth of product probably.
Speaker 2: Has until you go back as far as Lord of
Speaker 2: the Rings and you see modified pre cons unmodified pre cons.
Speaker 2: You see Samon Froto decks, you see Saron Deck, I
Speaker 2: see Saramon decks. I see Tom Bombadill decks. I know
Speaker 2: he wasn't in the pre con, but he was Lord
Speaker 2: of the Rings five color Saga card, which in here
Speaker 2: we get another one in the main set of five
Speaker 2: color some kind of bard guy. Yeah, so we're gonna
Speaker 2: see kind of the same impact. And instead of doing
Speaker 2: a card by card review next week of every card.
Speaker 1: Because there's ten thousand legends an eight million card, we're
Speaker 1: going to look at what our anticipated income income.
Speaker 2: Anticipated impact a lack of income if we're buying this set.
Speaker 2: Anticipated impact of the set is on the phone format,
Speaker 2: both locally and at large in Vegas, along with some
Speaker 2: of Uncle Brando's favorite cards. So that's what we're that's
Speaker 2: what we're doing next week. We talked about that before
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: Yes we did.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that too, and you know when we're
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Speaker 2: Or if you want to spend even more money than that,
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll that'll drop them. Wait a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: before you buy that, you'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't wait too long because it might go back.
Speaker 1: There, because then it'll go back up. But there's a
Speaker 1: sweet spot. It's three weeks from now. Just just get it.
Speaker 1: Then it'll sure, it'll be less dollars. And we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about more things that we like, more things
Speaker 1: that we don't like, and where we think things are
Speaker 1: going to end up with the Little Fantasy said on
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