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Speaker 1: I walk straight line.

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Speaker 2: Shackle change, Oh weesome, gird, it's calling my name. There

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is no mercy and it's been a tentery juice as

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the hill stream game Wrangle three, I'm here but by

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mere to die inside these walls, inside the wild and

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went no girls.

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Speaker 3: I Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody Angola, a

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podcast one and forty two years in the making, the

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complete story of America's bloodiest prison. I'm Jim Chapman, and look,

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today I am going to open your eyes, maybe a

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little bit, to the horrors for lack of a better word,

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of what it is like to die in prison and

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Angola specifically, be bare read there, what happens to you

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and what happened back in the past before Bloody Angola

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was bloody Inngla and it was still a slave plantation

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just starting to grow. I guess you could say it's

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prison roots. So that's what we're going to talk about today.

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And what got me thinking about this was an article

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that I read from Wilbert Rido and of course I've

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talked about him in the past. Did a full episode

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on Wilbert Rideau, certainly the best author and writer to

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ever come out of Angola, but one of the best

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authors of all time in my opinion, whether he was

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in prison or not. So I'm going to read you

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that article that he wrote, and it's going to give

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you an idea of what this is like in a

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way that only Wilbert Rideau paint it. And it reads.

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It was a nice spring morning, with a soft breeze

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rustling the leaves of the tall trees, but its beauty

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was lost upon a handful of the maids who had

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just finished digging a deep, rectangular hole that would be

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the final resting place of James Crepps number seven six

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zero six ' nine. Laying their shovels aside the grave,

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diggers inspected their work. They had done a good job.

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The hole was deep and the sides were smooth and

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even tired and dirty. They loitered around the grave, chatting

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as they waited for the scheduled funeral to take place.

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It wasn't what they wanted to be doing, but it

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was better than working in the field. A few prison

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officials arrived, soon followed by the warden. Then a yellow

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school bus pulled up on the side of the road

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directly across from the burial site. Some two dozen inmates,

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all trustees, filed out of the bus. Slowly. They began

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to wander through the cemetery, exploring it with a wide

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eyed fascination and calling out to each other in odd

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voices as they were recognized for many names of former

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inmates on some of the tombstones. Point Lookout was a

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place they had all heard about throughout their imprisonment, but

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one that most were seeing for the first time, in

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a significant departure from the typical prison funeral normally attended

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by only a chaplain, the undertaker in one or two officials,

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and the grave diggers. The warden had granted the request

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of the prisoners, all friends of Krups, to attend that funeral.

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Murmuring voices signaled the arrival of a black hearse, which

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pulled up alongside the road in front of a grave

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and stopped. The driver conferred briefly with Warden Ross Maggio

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and Chaplain Gary Pitton. Maggio turned to the waiting inmates,

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give me six of y'all to serve as pallbears. Six

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inmates moved forward, took hold of the coffin as it

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was slid out, and slowly walked the short distance to

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the grave. The chaplain led the procession, with the warden

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bringing up the rear. Two inmates carried Flora Reese, purchased

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by the inmate organizations. The typical prison funeral had no reas,

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but Cripps have been popular. He was well liked by

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the inmates. The coffin was placed on the wood planks

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above the grave, and the pallbearers stood on each side

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in a strict formation. It was a cheap, beige coffin

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made of some synthetic material that looked unmust like wood.

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Someone had written head across one end of it with

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a mark a lot so people would know the difference.

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Penton stepped to the head about his head and began

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the service by announcing to the gathering that Crypp's mother

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was an aging and seriously ill lady who wanted them

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to know that her son was not being buried in

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the prison cemetery because he was unloved, but because she

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was financially unable to bring him home and have him

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buried near her. She would have liked to have attended

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the few funeral service, Penton told the gathering, but was

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too poor and ill to make the trup. She requested

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that the thirty third Psalm be read over. Her son,

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Maurice pop Bickham, stepped beside the chaplain at the head

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of the grave. He was normally a spry man who

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moved about pretty well. Despite his sixty seven years of age,

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Bickham moved with a slowness that mirrored his depression. He

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had been a prisoner for the past twenty six years

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and had been a close friend of Crupps. He first

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met Crups on death Row, where they had spent many

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years awaiting the execution that never came. When the US

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Supreme Court spared the nation's condemned prisoners with its nineteen

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seventy two ruling that the death penalty as administered violated

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the Eighth Amendment, they joined the prisoner's regular populations to

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serve life sentences. The Lord is my shepherd. I shall

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not want he maketh me lie down. Faltered as he

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read the passage from the Bible. The words soon blurred

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from tears that filled his eyes. He continued to recite

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from memory, fighting the anguish that stirred in his gut.

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He and Crips had struggled for many years for a

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freedom that neither had realized they had been through a

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lot of good and bad experiences, had slept only a

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few beds away from each other, and now he had

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to read the Psalm over his friend. It unleashed his

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own fears of death and dying in prison. Though I

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walk through the valley of the shadow of Death, I

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will fear no evil. With the Psalm read, the chaplain

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asked another prisoner to lend a song to the occasion.

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Warren Lewis stepped forward and began, Here I stand before

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your throne. His strong voice filled the hush stillness of

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the cemetery. I stand at your throne, Oh God, plead

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my case, Oh Lord. Following Lewis's solo of the other

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inmates were invited to step forth and say whatever they

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wished about the man they had known. Crips was born

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and reared in rural Michigan and was an only child.

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While living in New Orleans, he and a traveling companion

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murdered a man, and in nineteen sixty eight he found

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himself under a death sentence. After his death sentence was

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set aside, he was resentenced to life imprisonment in nineteen

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seventy three. He adjusted well to prison life despite its

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then violent nature, and according to prison officials, he was

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never a disciplinary problem. Like so many lifers, Crips tenaciously

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clung to the dream that he would one day regain

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his freedom, but since he was poor and essentially alone

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in the world, it was a lonely struggle. With his

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mother living so far away, he rarely received visitors, except

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for a male religious adviser who occasionally came by to

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see him. For a long time, he worked in the

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prison's print shop, A tireless worker who rarely complained. He

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was always cooperative and willing to do whatever he could

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to help others. A sports enthusiast, he rode the animals

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in the annual prison radio for several years. He also

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played softball and football, once even playing on an otherwise

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all black softball team and earning the moniker the White Shadow.

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Several months before his death, Crips was transferred to the

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main prisons maintenance crew, but something was physically wrong with him.

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He didn't know what it was. He started losing weight

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rapidly and was finally admitted to the prison's infirmary. Over

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the next month, he was admitted several times to the

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hospital in Baton, Rouge and New Orleans, and he died

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in New Orleans Charity Hospital of heart disease. He was

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thirty seven. At the end of the service, the pawbears

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lowered crips into the ground. The men picked up small

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clods of dirt and through them atop the coffin in

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a farewell gesture. As mourners departed the grave, diggers immediately

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began shoveling dirt into the hole. The dry, hollow sound

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of the dirt hitting the cheap coffin unnerved pop Vickim,

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and he looked back as he climbed onto the bus

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Point lookout is the prison's barrier ground, its cemetery, located

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a short distance from the prison's employee residential area. The

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cemetery is nestled among a forest of pine trees. A

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paved road runs in front of it, across from which

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is a dilapidated horse form for employees. A deep gully

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runs behind it, separating it from a thick wooded area

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where some of the employees hunting dogs are pinned. It

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is a quiet and tranquil place. It's silence interrupted from

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time to time only by the wishing sound of a

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passing car. Clusters of sweet gum and oak trees dot

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the well tended lawn. The graves are laid out in

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scattered clusters toward the front. Seven rows of two hundred

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and ninety six white concrete tombstones stretch out across the

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entire width of the cemetery. On a few of the stones,

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names or names and numbers appear, but most only carrying numbers.

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In the past few years, the prison administration has tried

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to bury the dead in a uniform manner and has

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attached little white metal tags with the deceased name and

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number to those headstones. Point Lookout is not a typical cemetery.

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No one goes there except to clean the grounds or

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to bury another prisoner. There are no visitors. Prisoners are

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not permitted to go, Employees generally have no reason to visit,

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and since those buried there are dispossessed and unclaimed, there

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are no friends or relatives to come and lay out flowers.

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Even if there were, Bickam points out, they would have

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to make special arrangements to enter the prison and visit

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that grave. If they're poor and they lack transportation, the

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prison is too remote for regular visits. There's no way

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in the world that someone can catch a ride with

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somebody all the way to Angola, be dropped off at

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the cemetery, and then catch a ride all the way

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back to where they came from. Pop Bickham told the

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Angelite people can do that at cemeteries in the free world,

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but not way up here. You'd have to find someone

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coming to Angola in the first place just to catch

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a ride. And Bickham knows about such matters. He spent

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over two years working as an attendant at the cemetery.

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As long as I worked there, he said, not one

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person visited anybody in that cemetery. Bickham is right about

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the world forgetting about those buried there. Except for the

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recent burials, prison officials can tell little to any inquirer

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about the dead at Point Lookout. In fact, while there

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were two hundred and ninety six tombstones, Assistant Warden Peggy

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Gresham pointed out that it seemed inconceivable that given the

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number of deaths which have occurred over the years here

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at in Goola, there are not more people buried at

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Point Lookout. Prisoners were first sent to Angola in eighteen

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sixty nine after the state leased out all its convicts

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to Major Samuel Lawrence James to ease the financial burden

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of housing them. One of the first moves by James

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was to transfer state prisoners from the penitentiary then located

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in Baton Rudge to his Ngola cotton plantation. James had

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huge ambitions about how best to utilize inmate labor to

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make money. For the next twenty five years, he operated

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the most profitable and brutal enterprise in the history of

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the state of Louisiana, often violating state laws in the

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terms of his contract. While less prior to the Civil

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War had used inmate labor in its manufacturing operations within

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the prison facility, James knew there were enormous profits to

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be made by taking inmates out of the prison, and

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while he started with only a couple of one hundred inmates,

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he used them on the Mississippi River levees and railroad construction,

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as well as other farms and plantations, utilizing brute force

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to maintain the discipline and productivity. The result was a

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living nightmare for the convicts, but an empire for James.

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In a matter of months. During the first year, James

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made a half million dollars which was a king's fortune

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in those days. But by the eighteen eighties the least

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system began to receive public criticism, which grew louder as

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the Major and his subcontractors continued to work, mutilate, and

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kill prisoners throughout Louisiana. In eighteen eighty six, a newspaper

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in Clinton, Louisiana described what was by then common knowledge

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when it stated that the men on James' works are

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brutally treated, and everybody knows it. They are worked mostly

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in the swamps and plantations, from daylight to dark. Corporal

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punishment is inflicted on the slightest provocation. Anyone who has

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traveled along the lines of the railroads that run through

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Louisiana swamps in which the levies are built, they have

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seen the poor devils almost to the waste in the

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black and noxious mud. C. Harrison Parker, editor of the

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New Orleans Daily. Picky Un, a leading critic of the

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horrors inflicted upon the prisoners by James, asserted that it

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would be more humane to execute anyone sentenced to more

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than six years in james Lee system, because the average

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convict didn't live that long anyway. In eighteen ninety state

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representative C. W. Seals of Clabne Parish also condemned James

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in his brutal system, charging on the floors of the

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house that the death rate is about four times as

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great in proportion to the number of convicts as the

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death rate is in any penitentiary in the United States.

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Joseph Ransdell, a North Louisiana attorney who would later become

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a US Senator, stated in a trial in eighteen ninety

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eight that a friend had told him that he had

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seen forty two convicts buried at one camp in either

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eighteen eighty five or eighty six, and the deaths were

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nearly all caused by overwork, exposure, and brutality. James kept

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his books closed from the public and official scrutiny, and

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there was no official reports from the prison for the

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years eighteen eighty five and eighteen eighty six. However, the

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Prison Border Control admitted two years before Ransdeal made his

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charge that two hundred and sixteen convicts died in eighteen

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ninety six alone, and until the lease system ended in

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nineteen oh one, the death rate averaged about ten percent,

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with a total of about eight hundred deaths during the

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system's last seven years. On the basis of his research,

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Mark Carlton of the Louisiana State University estimated that as

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many as three thousand men, women, and children convicts, most

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of them black, died during the infamous thirty year period

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between eighteen seventy and nineteen oh one. During the last

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full year of the lease system nineteen hundred, there were

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a total of nine hundred and eighty nine prisoners in

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the state's leased penal system, one hundred forty nine whites

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in eight hundred and forty blacks. The light of those

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still alive at the end of the year improved considerably

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with the resumption of state control. The more brutal methods

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employed under James rule were abandoned, and the morality rate

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dropped dramatically. Henry Fuculaw, chief administrative officer of the penal system,

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reported to the legislature in nineteen eighteen that the death

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rate for convicts had dropped to thirty five point three

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per year between nineteen oh one and nineteen seventeen. The

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next available statistic on the convict death rate was contained

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in a nineteen forty prison report, which stated that between

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nineteen thirty one and nineteen thirty five, the number of

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deaths had increased under the juil uneral management of R. L.

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Himes to an average of forty one per year. In

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his History of the Louisiana Penal System, Carlton states that

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prison officials, squeezed between the depression and their own venality,

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may well have resorted more often to brutality in order

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to make the penal system self supporting. On May eleventh,

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nineteen forty one, The Time Speaking reported that a study

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of prison records revealed that fifteen hundred and forty seven

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inmates were flogged with twenty three thousand, eight hundred and

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eighty nine recorded blows of the double lash, which were

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inflicted on prisoners in nineteen thirty three alone. Thousands have

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died in the Louisiana penal system. The question is where

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have they been buried? Information on this is even more

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scarce than information about what happened to the prisoners over

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the years. The problem is the prison system until recent

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times operated in violation of state laws, with a criminality

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and violence that matched and often exceeded that of prisoners

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in its custody. Like any criminal, the system cloaked its

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activities in secrecy. Since major James kept his books and

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operations closed from the public an official scrutiny during his

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murderous reign. There is no way of knowing who died, how,

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when or where. Between eighteen sixty eight and nineteen hundred.

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Information was obtained during the penal system's transition from the

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LEAs to the state, but no major report came out

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of the prison until nineteen eighteen, and even that report

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offered no precise information as to the number of convicts

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actually imprisoned at any time between eighteen ninety three and

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nineteen seventeen. It produced only muddled averages for prison population, death, admissions,

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discharge and so on, some of which don't jive with

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reports from other sources. No more official reports were issued

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about the prison's activities until nineteen thirty two as far

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as records and public information went, and GOLA ceased to

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exist during the nineteen twenties. For the most part, what

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happened during that period is and will remain unknown and

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aside from the brief report issued in nineteen thirty two,

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and GOLA was once again removed from public scrutiny until

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nineteen forty, when an anti Huey Long administration assumed the governorship.

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It's a dark stain on the state's history that no

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one probably will ever know what happened to those locked

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up in the penal system. Throughout those secret years, prisoners

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could die and be buried, and except for a few

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notable points on them boom, and except for a few

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notable points in time, their fate was of little, if

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any significance to the public or to state officials. Penal

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authorities could easily keep their activities, even murder secret, given

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the public's apathy. Unfortunately, the public's concern for inmates' welfare

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and its enthusiasm for their rehabilitation have always been inversely

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proportional to the number of black convicts perceived to be

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within the system. Prior to the Civil War, when the

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convict population was primarily white, the state and even the

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leases chose manufacturing as a means of utilizing inmate labor.

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When the inmate population became predominantly black following the Civil War,

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the public sin confused the crime problem with the Negro

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quote unquote problem, a perception that still lingers today. The

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further one moves back in time, the less likely it

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is that a prisoner's body was claimed by his family

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and given a private and decent burial. While prison officials

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today can pick up a telephone and immediately contact the

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next of ken in the event of a prisoner's death,

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communication wasn't always that simple. It was a long time

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before telephones or automobiles became meaningful realities for the lower

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social class, the class from which the bulk of state

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prisoners have always come from, and the ones least able

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to afford the expense of transporting and bearing a body.

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Given the reality, the frequency in which inmate's bodies remained

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unclaimed and the prison had to dispose of them must

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have been much greater, if not routine, prior to the

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nineteen hundreds. It's reasonably safe to assume that the prisoners

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who died between eighteen thirty five, when the penitentiary was

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located in Baton Rouge and the Civil War were buried

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in the pauper cemetery in that city. During that era

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of Crewe communication and transportation, it's highly unlikely that the

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body of a prisoner without family and Baton Rouge would

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have been kept somehow until the family received a mailed

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death notice and could come pick up the body. The

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same technological and economic realities governing the lives of people

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from eighteen sixty eight to nineteen oh one, a time

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when prisoners died like flies under the rule of the lease.

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It must be assame that prisoners were buried wherever they died,

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and that could have been anywhere, since Major James worked

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his inmates all over the state. Given the high mortality

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rate of those working under james whip, it stands to

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reason that a lot of inmates died on the Angola

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plantation between eighteen sixty eight and nineteen oh one, and

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the logical inference can be drawn that most of them

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were buried on the plantation grounds. It was common practice

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in the South for plantations to maintain their own cemeteries

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for family members and slaves, and it's unlikely Inngola was

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any exception. The earliest recollection of the existence of a

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prisoner cemetery dates back to the early nineteen twenties. Jack Davis,

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a former Angola postmaster, grew up in and around Angola

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during that period. He recalls an inmate cemetery known as

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boot Hill and located on a small knoll near the

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infamous Red Hat cell block. At some point during the

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nineteen thirties, all of the Boothill graves were transferred to

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the present location now known as Point Lookout. C. C. Dixon,

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who was working at Camp F for a time, recalls

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that they would dig up one grave and take it

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over there and bury it, then go get another one.

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They take one at a time, and they just kept

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at it until they finally got through with it. Dixon

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and Davis recalled it ironically. During a period of strict

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racial segregation throughout the South, including in the Louisiana prison system,

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prisoners were buried together at the same cemetery without regard

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to race. As Grisham points out, that was something that

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didn't happen in the free world. Obviously. The only places

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in Louisiana where blacks and white it's achieved equality during

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that era were at Angola's boot Heel in Point Lookout.

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The overwhelming majority of Point Lookout graves are marked by

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tombstones bearing a prison's number in ten thousands, twenty thousands,

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and thirty thousands, all of which were issued to incoming

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prisoners between nineteen twenty and nineteen forty. It's my guess

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that most of them died shortly after their number was issued.

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Assistant Warden Gresham says, if you look at the number

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of deaths during those years, then it's my guess that

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some of those people weren't here very long. It's also

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worth noting that prisoners generally served out sentences during those years.

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A nineteen eighty and Golight study of records from that

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era revealed that even murderers serving life sentences generally got

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out of prison in less than eight years. A nineteen

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sixty nine report by the Commission of Law Enforcement and

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Administration of Justice stated that the average Louisiana inmate during

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the nineteen sixty was freed after only two years in prison.

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It has been within the last decade that Louisiana inmates

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had been required to serve four more years than traditionally required,

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judging by the prison numbers in the years of their issuance.

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Point Lookout experienced most of its burials during the twenties, thirties,

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and forties, a particularly harsh and brutal era when official

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administrative secrecy veiled prison activities, and according to William Woodnear Saddler,

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the first editor of the Ngolelight, who came to in

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gol in nineteen thirty five, the procedure for bearing inmates

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was as mean as the world they were forced to

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exist in. In nineteen seventy seven, he recalled a nineteen

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thirty five burial practice for the Ngollight, and it read

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when an Angolan died or was killed, his body was

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taken to the ice house next door to the power

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plant at Camp E and kept cold for a period

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which did not exceed three days. The man's necks of

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ken if on record, they were notified. If there was

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no next of ken, the man would be buried in

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the penitentiary cemetery at Point Lookout, halfway between the front

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gate and Camp I on the old Camp B road.

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The burial crew were three black trustees from Camp A,

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and they would bring their two wheeled cart pulled by

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a mule, to the ice house. A much used pine

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coffin was in the cart. The body would be turned

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over to them and the crew would wrap the body

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in a canvas sheet, put it in the coffin, and

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drive the long, slow road to the cemetery. Once there,

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the crew would dig a hole not necessarily six feet deep,

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or often just deep enough to conceal the corpse. The

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coffin would be suspended over the hole and the bolt

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on the underside would be slept. The bottom of the

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coffin would swing open because it was hinged on the

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other side, and the shoty corpse would tumble into the hole.

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Two of the crew would reach down into the hole

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pull the canvas shroud off the body so it could

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be used again. While it was quite evident that the

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prison utilized boot Heel and then Point Lookout as burial

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grounds for those prisoners whose bodies were not claimed, there

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are questions that bag explanation and the two hundred and

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ninety six grades of the cemetery only compound that mystery.

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The average annual death rate between nineteen oh one and

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nineteen seventeen was officially reported by the prison officials to

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be thirty five point three, yet there is only one

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grave from that period at Point Lookout, that of NH. Waller,

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number ten seven three. It's not likely that the bodies

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of all inmates who died between nineteen hundred and say

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nineteen forty were claimed by friends or relatives and buried

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elsewhere outside the prison. As Gresham pointed out, they didn't

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know anything about embalming, and they couldn't very well ship

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bodies all over the place. It wasn't practical to ship

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bodies long distances back in those days. It would take

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days to get anywhere by wagons. So it's logical to

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assume that the prison probably had to bury most of

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the inmates who died, and a lot of them died.

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Yet there are not enough graves at Point Lookout to

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accommodate the number of inmates who died during that era.

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Where were the dead inmates buried, We don't know, Grusham states, Frankly,

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we don't know where they died at, whether here in

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Angola or elsewhere. If we knew where they were housed,

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we could guess where they were buried. The most reliable

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indication of who died where and how, and the possible

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side of their burial, lies in the manner in which

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the prison authorities distributed convicts through its work assignment system.

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The classification system employed by penal authorities was simple trned

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along racial lines. Levy work in that pre bulldozer era

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was deadly, and, according to historian Mark Carlton, was where

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most of the recorded deaths between eighteen ninety and nineteen

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hundred occurred. After nineteen oh one, the prison assigned only

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black inmates to work on the levees. The second and

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most onerous brutal work assignment was on the sugarcane plantations,

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and these assignments were also primarily given to black inmates. Therefore,

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over two thirds of the prisoners, primarily black, were not

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even at Angola, giving the brutal nature of their work assignments.

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Most of the deaths among prisoners in the early nineteen

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hundreds probably occurred at levee camps or sugar plantations. There

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may be more truth than fiction to the tales that

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the state's massive levee systems were built atop inmate workers.

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Those inmates certainly were not shipped back to Angola for

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burial at Point Lookout. Imprisonment and penal operations in Louisiana

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are no longer crue primitive affairs that they used to be.

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Federal courts, recognition of prisoner's rights, and enlightened and sophisticated

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penal management have put an end to the harsh and

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brutal practices of the past. Medical care, which was once

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almost non existent for prisoners, now exist. It made violence,

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which used to tear at the very fabric of the

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00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,720
prison world, has long ceased to be a major factor

477
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:28,559
in the inmate mortality rate. Men now die of old

478
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:33,039
age or illness. Today's circumstances being what they are, more

479
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:36,440
of our prisoners are dying of natural cause, as Grusham said,

480
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,160
and are more likely to die in a hospital away

481
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,680
from Angola than in Angola. The prospect of dying in

482
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,640
prison is a nightmarish fear that haunts every prisoner like

483
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,559
a ghost. Dying anywhere isn't a pleasant thing, Mordan Maggie

484
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:53,839
had pointed out in those dying here pretty much the

485
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,319
same as people in nursing homes, while dying in prison

486
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,680
is perhaps not the same as dying at home. We're

487
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,519
trying to make it as comfortable as possible for them.

488
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:05,599
In fact, that was a major consideration in the creation

489
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,960
and operation of the Old Folks Ward at the hospital,

490
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:12,839
to have a more comfortable situation for the elderly prisoner,

491
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,279
with nursing care and medical attention readily available. But that

492
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,119
knowledge offers no consolation to prisoners faced with the prospect

493
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,799
of dying in prison. It's dying away from home, alone

494
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,359
with strangers in the callous atmosphere of the prison. Being

495
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,319
treated and cared for more often than not by an

496
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:37,160
indifferent hand. It's grossly different from dying in the warmth

497
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,920
of a home, in the bosom of friends and relatives,

498
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:44,960
which eases the sting of death somewhat. There's nothing in

499
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,359
the prisoner's world that can soften the finality of death.

500
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,119
A longing look out of a window reveals a world

501
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,920
of guns, curses, and noise, as callous as the concrete

502
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,799
it's made of. There is no warmth, beauty or meaning,

503
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,880
no lasting pleasures, touches, joys, or words. In prison, there

504
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,920
is nothing. You suffer alone, and you die alone, feeding

505
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,720
the fear and misery of those who must watched you die.

506
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:17,799
Roy Fogum was a close friend of James Cripps. Fogum,

507
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,359
a patient at the prison hospital, couldn't attend Cripp's funeral,

508
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,279
but he watched him languish in the prison hospital ward

509
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:29,079
until Crips was transferred to that charity hospital in New Orleans.

510
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,759
He shared Crip's frustration during the initial stages of his

511
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:35,400
illness as the doctors tried to find out what was

512
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,599
wrong with him. They slept two beds of port at

513
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,119
the hospital ward. After Crips was transferred to New Orleans.

514
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,880
Fogrum also made a couple of medical trips to Charity Hospital,

515
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,279
and he inquired each time about his friend's condition. I

516
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,960
was told he was unconscious and had a bad heart,

517
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:58,319
and that they couldn't operate on him. Fogum recounts the

518
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:01,279
next trip I made the following week, I asked about

519
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:04,680
him again, and they told me, Roy, your friend is

520
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,440
not going to make it. When word of Cryp's death

521
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,800
finally reached Fogum at the prison hospital, it seemed like

522
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:14,960
a part of me died, he said. A little later,

523
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,079
Fogum watched another friend, Charles Little One Collins, who slept

524
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:25,039
three beds away from him, die. Crips had died alone.

525
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,159
In contrast, Colin's wife visited him a week before his death,

526
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,440
although she could not stay with him. He suffered day

527
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,079
and night. Fogum recalls, I sat there in my wheelchair

528
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,000
the night he died. He was hollering about how hot

529
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,400
it was. I told him the air conditioner was on.

530
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,800
Fogram had to watch his friend's agony and death, then

531
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,159
watch the hearst take Little One away the next morning.

532
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,639
That kind of thing can get to you, he said.

533
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,400
You're sitting there helping your friend to die. Looking at

534
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,639
him and knowing that the same thing could happened to you,

535
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,199
it starts bugging your mind, and sooner or later you

536
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,880
can't even think right. Sometimes I have nightmares. I lay

537
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,880
in my bed and cry like little one did. There's

538
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,440
no respirit from the pain of imprisonment. When Folgram is

539
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:19,880
transported to a hospital outside the prison for medical treatment,

540
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,400
he travels with his leg irons hobbling him around the ankles,

541
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,199
and with his wrist handcuffed and chained to his waist.

542
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,360
A painful black lock box also on his wrist prevents

543
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,039
him from picking the handcuff lock. He goes fully shackled,

544
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,679
as did Crips and Collins, despite cancer eating Collins away.

545
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,000
It didn't matter that Crips and Collins were dying. They

546
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,760
had to lie on their stretchers, weighted down by the

547
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,079
chains that bound them and held them prisoner. It's the

548
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:52,559
general policy that when a prisoner is shipped out of Angola,

549
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,400
whether they go to court or another hospital, that he

550
00:35:55,519 --> 00:36:00,199
is to be shackled. Maggio said. My first responsibility is

551
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,400
to make sure that a prisoner is secure when we

552
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,199
send him out of the prisident into the public. The

553
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,599
fact that a man is dying doesn't mean that he

554
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,639
won't attempt to escape or that he can't do anything.

555
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,559
If the leg irons and handcuffs would interfere with the

556
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:17,679
man's medical care, they are not put on the prisoner.

557
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,199
And while it's a general policy to shackle everyone, there

558
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,960
have been numerous exceptions to that policy, and I expect

559
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,320
that there will be more in the future. It all

560
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,760
depends on what the medical staff would say about the

561
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,079
inmate's condition. Cripps died in shackles, chained to his bed

562
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,039
in the Charity Hospital in New Orleans, with the cold

563
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:42,400
steel biting into him as the prisoners that died before him.

564
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,719
The mere idea drives needles of fear into Fulgram, who

565
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,480
wants to die like that, chained up like some kind

566
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:52,840
of animal. He said, I certainly don't want to die

567
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,440
like that. He's trying to avoid the possibility. Though he's

568
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,280
been in prison twenty four years time that would have

569
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,840
crushed most family relationships. Folgram's family is still sticking with

570
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,079
him and fighting to prevent his dying chained to a

571
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:12,519
hospital bed. His family is trying to secure a medical

572
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:16,159
discharge or furlough from prison for him. I'm hoping and

573
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,679
praying that they can get a medical discharge or furlough

574
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,280
or whatever it is, he said from his hospital wheelchair.

575
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,599
There is little n Fogram's immediate world to give him

576
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:31,119
reason to hope. He watched Collins die waited for a

577
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:34,719
medical furlough that never came. Looking a few beds away

578
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,559
from him, he watches a nurse and an inmate orderly

579
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:41,840
tending to Joe Brown, another patient. He's got no legs

580
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,719
from the knees down, nothing, said Fulgram. They've got to

581
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,599
take care of him, bathe him and everything else like that.

582
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,159
He went up to the pardon board and asked for

583
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:53,239
a break, to be allowed to go home, but they

584
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,639
said he ain't served enough time. Hell, how do they

585
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:59,320
expect the guy to live? I think that any man

586
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,880
who has been here in your years and got bad health,

587
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,679
regardless of who you are, should be discharged. I mean,

588
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,320
as long as there are people who are willing to

589
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,679
take care of you. Maggio believes in the concept of

590
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,719
releasing terminally ill and aging prisoners on medical furloughs, so

591
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,880
long as there's someone to release them too, who's willing

592
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,400
to take care of them. But He also pointed out

593
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,400
it all depends on the man. If an eighty year

594
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,239
old man killed someone and came up here, we can't

595
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,920
very well ship him right back into the community the

596
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,119
next day. The community and the judge obviously won him

597
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:39,039
in prison, which is the reason why they shipped him

598
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:42,199
to us in the first place, so they wouldn't appreciate

599
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,880
us shipping him right back the next day because of

600
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,320
his age. Hell, I don't know how you would address

601
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,320
a case like that. Maggio has recommended inmates for medical

602
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,760
furloughs in the past, and if when the medical department

603
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,320
recommends a terminally ill case to me for medical furloughs,

604
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,440
he said, I recommend it to the Department of Corrections

605
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,079
and they take it from there. Folgram is one of

606
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:10,679
the more fortunate elderly prisoners. He knows it. I've got everything,

607
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,679
he says, I'm one of the lucky ones. Ailing and

608
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,039
elderly inmates are a fast growing problem. They constitute a

609
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:23,159
class of prisoners with odd needs. Many, if not most,

610
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,960
of them require special attention and medical care in a

611
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,280
slower pace of life than the rest of the prisoner population.

612
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,400
Most are unable to work, and they are more prone

613
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,159
to depression and suicide than any other group. Yet in

614
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,440
most prisons there are no special programs to deal with

615
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,599
the age. They simply vegetate in prison. There are notable exceptions.

616
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,920
Some prison systems provide special accommodations for the age denailing.

617
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,679
The federal prison system operates two minimum security prisons solely

618
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:59,679
to house its ailing and elderly prisoners. The state of

619
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,559
cal Nia has a similar one hundred and fifty million

620
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:06,639
facility in Chino, where elderly prisoners are permitted to live

621
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:09,440
at a slower pace, away from the stress field and

622
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:13,440
violent worlds of other prisoners. Louisiana is in the process

623
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,920
of addressing what should be done with old sick prisoners.

624
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,760
Upon assuming office several months ago, Governor Edwin Edwards, and

625
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,400
it's important y'all to mention this was written back when

626
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:27,000
Edwin Edwards was in office. Governor Edwin Edwards appointed a

627
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:32,000
Forgotten Man Committee to study the prison system and recommend reforms.

628
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,199
Correction Secretary s Paul Phelps is fond of pointing out

629
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:39,639
that if the state doesn't do something about them, the

630
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:43,519
Department of Corrections will soon be operating the largest old

631
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:47,280
folks home in the state. While prisoners generally fear the

632
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,440
prospect of dying in prisons, few of those who do

633
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:54,800
actually end up buried here. Most are retrieved by relatives.

634
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:58,719
Only eight prisoners have been buried at Point Lookout during

635
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,920
the past five years. A study of five of them,

636
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,480
selected at random, reveal a pattern. What we're looking at

637
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:09,000
are individuals with low education levels who were born and

638
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:13,159
raised outside of Louisiana and whose family lives outside of

639
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,599
the state. Grusham said they were individuals who had been

640
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:21,119
constantly conflicting with the law and spent considerable amounts of

641
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:24,800
time in jails and prisons away from their families throughout

642
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,599
their lives. And that's important because individuals who are in

643
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:31,639
constant trouble are less likely to be able to maintain

644
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:35,840
a close family tie throughout long periods of separation. And

645
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,639
it appears that this is what happened in their cases

646
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,960
because they have families, so there was an evident deterioration

647
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:46,800
of family ties. In addition, they were all either single

648
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,760
or divorced, which means no immediate family ties, and they

649
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,679
had no visits. Now, when you put all these factors together,

650
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:58,679
the accumulative effect is that it appears these people had

651
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,280
earlier in their lives lost initial closeness with other family members.

652
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,400
While the families of two of the inmates refused to

653
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,519
claim their bodies, grush And pointed out the families of

654
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:12,280
the other three men were unable to claim bodies because

655
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,360
of financial difficulties. They wanted very much to claim the bodies,

656
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,119
and bear was delayed in a couple of cases to

657
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:21,559
give families more time to try and work out some

658
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:25,239
of the financial arrangements. In fact, some of the family

659
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,119
members came to the prison for one of the funerals.

660
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,760
You have to understand the background that prisoners primarily come from.

661
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:36,320
That for me and golis chaplain Gary Penton, who explained

662
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,280
they generally come from poor families, people already caught up

663
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,679
in the trauma of life, and people who don't have

664
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,159
much don't expect to have much. They do well to

665
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,079
keep the car running, for instance, just to go to

666
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,840
work if they got to work to go to and

667
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,159
it's a very real hassle just keeping their own life together.

668
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:58,920
Then they may live out of state, and in the

669
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,199
case of crips, then you suddenly thrust upon them the

670
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,119
expense of having a body shipped prepare for burial and

671
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,639
the general cost of dying, which is pretty high. They

672
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:13,440
can't handle it, especially if they're ailing in elderly people

673
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:17,199
living on fixed incomes crips having to be buried here

674
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,159
is a good example of that. There are always going

675
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,559
to be those men who don't have anybody in their

676
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:27,159
lives anywhere, Pitton pointed out. And it's not a case

677
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:31,119
of rejection, but simply not belonging. They've been here for

678
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:33,719
so long that their folks have all died, and what

679
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,159
other family ties they might have had simply disintegrate with

680
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,360
the passage of time. They're being locked away from them

681
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,599
for so long. Just the natural growing away from each

682
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:50,320
other when people are apart, it's a natural process. When

683
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,960
I was in the military, Pitton continued, I had to

684
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,039
spend a year on a remote radar site off the

685
00:43:56,039 --> 00:44:00,840
coast of Alaska covering chaplain duties. When I returned home

686
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,440
after one year, my wife and I had to get reacquainted.

687
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,440
We'd sort of grown apart. She had taken on out

688
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,559
of responsibilities and learned to function on her own during

689
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:14,920
my absence, and I had to kind of wiggle back

690
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,480
into her life when I returned. When a person copes

691
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:22,880
without someone for so long, it becomes somewhat difficult for

692
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,559
them to make a spot for them in their life again,

693
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,559
especially when they've become involved with life and their burden

694
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:34,400
with so many other responsibilities and demands, you simply grow apart.

695
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,159
And Two, if you're the kind of person who has

696
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:39,400
been in and out of trouble and in and out

697
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,480
of jails and prisons throughout your life, you don't have

698
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,840
the time and the opportunity to develop those close and

699
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,920
lasting relationships to begin with. Grusham pointed out a lot

700
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,719
of family relationships of people in prison were already strained

701
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,480
and shattered or even broken before they came to prison.

702
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,519
That's one of the factors in your ultimate having no belongings,

703
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:04,920
having nobody to really encourage you, nobody to frown at you,

704
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:09,079
so to speak, because they love you, care about what

705
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:13,239
happens to you. When you add the natural disintegration of

706
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,800
relationships that go with long confinement, it just goes down

707
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,639
the drain completely. The same thing happens in marital relationships

708
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:25,679
of people in prison. It's just that the evidence of

709
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,760
that natural disintegration in this instance is an unclaimed body.

710
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:34,079
The other is divorce. The fact of death doesn't change

711
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:38,440
what has already taken place. I think that it probably

712
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,599
insinuates the dread that a man has. He already knows

713
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:47,199
that there are tenuous ties. Pitton, a former Air Force chaplain,

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has been a chaplain in Gola for five years. The

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burial of Creps was his first prison funeral, an experience

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he cites as his saddest since he's been at the prison.

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The fact of death is no major fear or dread

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or terror for me, he said, That's a natural part

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of life. But the death where there is nobody to

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love you, to mourn your passing, no tears, that's sad.

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Standing at the head of his grave, I found myself

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identifying with him and those gathered around. I can relate

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to the pain the fear a man who is as

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much a family man as I, A man who feels

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the need for human warth and belonging, I can appreciate

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the value of a family relationship. He and his non

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belonging represent the fear of not only the inmates, but

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that of every human being, a being alone in life.

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It's a very human fear. It's just that with the

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inmate it's worse more intense because he doesn't have much

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control over his life and his being. Life in prison

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is much more intense. When you're excited, you're really excited,

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and you're depressed, you're really depressed, and your fears are

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very very real to you. Whether they're real or not,

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they run that much deeper. Oh, I understand their fear.

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And then in the postcript, it said on the morning

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of May thirty first, nineteen eighty four, two weeks after

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being interviewed, Roy Folgram was informed by prison officials that

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he had been granted a medical furlough to his family,

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effective June first. On the same day, Edmund Ruffing, a

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seventy two year old resident of Angola's Old Folks Ward

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serving a life sentence for murder, was buried at Point Lookout.

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A first defender, he had no family and never received

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a visitor during his seventeen years of confinement. Folgram died

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on December twenty ninth, nineteen ninety at the home of

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his sister. Following publication of dying in prison, which is

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what I just Reggie warden Ross, Maggia ordered assistant Roger

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Thomas to research old prison records in the state archives

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and determine the identity of every person buried at Point Lookout.

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As a result of Thomas's efforts, names were placed on

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every tombstone in the cemetery.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: What an article that was written in June of nineteen

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eighty four by Wilbert Rido. And the reason that I

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didn't break that down for you and I just read

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straight from it is there is no one on God's

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green Earth that can say it better than that, especially me,

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And I felt like that's what you needed to hear.

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That was strong. That was one hell of an article,

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So thank you for listening again. Obviously, know what are

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you Everton? This week, last couple of weeks have been

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a struggle for both of us to line our schedules up.

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He's got some big things coming up with Real Life,

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Real Crime Original and that series he's been kind of

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00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,679
teasing that's going to be starting in November, and I've

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got some things coming up as well. That lining up

767
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,320
those schedules is really difficult. Look, I'm here every day

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in the studio. It's a lot easier for me to

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just jump behind here and bring you all something, And

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that's what I did today. I hope you enjoyed it. Wow,

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what a writer Wilbert Rito is. And that is Bloody

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Angla for this week and until next time. For what

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00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,039
do you Everton? I am Jim Chapman, your host of

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00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:36,400
Bloody Angola, a podcast one hundred and forty two years

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00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,320
in the making, the complete story of America's bloodiest present.

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Speaker 1: Peace on the street, line, shackle change.

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Speaker 2: Oh gluesome Gurdi, it's calling my name. There is no

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mercy and this being a tentery juice as the huge

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stream game Rango the three. I'm here but.

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Speaker 3: By here to die.

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Speaker 2: Inside these wars, inside the wild and when the girls

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I know, it's so.

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Speaker 1: Bloody.

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Speaker 2: Anglebody, Angle

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Speaker 3: The Baad

