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claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,

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come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There

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is no such thing as an expert when it comes

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Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.

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There is no hiding from them, There is no being

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quiet or.

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Speaker 3: Sneaking up on them. As soon as you walk in

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the woods, you walk.

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Speaker 2: In their front door, thinking that you are going to

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surprise them.

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Speaker 3: You're only kidding yourself.

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Speaker 1: We have got to get it out of our heads

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that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in

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my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures

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right now is by listening to and talking to those

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that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and

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experienced them in their own environment.

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Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring a

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lin as to this topic, to be an open door

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for somebody to walk through, to be able to share

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their story, a listening here, a support hold for those

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who have held their own encounters with that which is

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not supposed to ems.

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Speaker 1: We've got to open our eyes people, there is something

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out there. All of these thousands of people that have

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seen something. They're not all aligned, they're not all crazy.

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There are some very reputable, good people out there that

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have seen something.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Kyle, how's it going? It is going.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you first off for

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being here, and your dad's here there he is, yep,

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so but yeah, thanks for coming and for sharing everything

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Speaker 4: So that's what I'm here for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean we're we're down for the bigfoot stuff.

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stuff like that on TV. Firstly following you know, Jeff

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just kind of whatever I could podcasts and shows, and

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you know, Finding Bigfoot came out, which I don't want

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to give them too much light, but you know, that

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least that big in my life. And when that show

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was actually some sort of way to get into it

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that kind of level, you know. So that's kind of

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really what kicked it off. Right When I was about

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seventeen or eighteen, my dad and I went on a

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hunting trip up in the Adirondacks and that was my

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first actual encounter with a sasquatch, and ever since then

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I got even further into it. I ended up reaching

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out to Todd Standing and he called me. Got a

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phone call from Todd's Standing, so him and I ended

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research area, and it turned out amazing. I had a

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and telling the world about on my podcast and just

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proving to him, hey, you know this isn't all bowl,

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you know, like this actually had him do a tree

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break and he's got the video of it somewhere. I

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what it takes to do a tree break and to

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whatever state that we find them in. So that was

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putting your hands in the water, you know, breathing that

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fresh air in That's that's what's really about the big

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. But I mean, if if you look

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Speaker 4: Are you there all right about that? Can you hear me?

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for when it comes to Bigfoot, and he dedicated his

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life to it. And I think he's got a couple

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of sons now that are involved in are getting involved

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toxicity in the Bigfoot community is really just from people

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who don't want to understand and don't want to learn

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and hear the stories. I think they're the kind of

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people that are like, oh, you know that there's no

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way that's happened. I've been to woods for fifty years

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an open mind would probably help those people too, at

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least at least help the bigfoot community, right well.

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Speaker 2: Carrying some form of skepticism is healthy. I mean, you

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can't believe everything every jo Shmo tells you exactly, so

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having that level of skepticism is healthy to do. Would

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you mind telling us about your first big find encounter? Yeah?

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the ground maybe an inch or two, and there was

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fresh deer sign kind of going through there. So I

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boom bang, smash, and it was sounded like it was

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Speaker 2: Well that's that's awesome, and let's let's get into some

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of these pictures because I'll I'll throw one up here

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and you just get into it, all right.

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Speaker 3: That one's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: When you sent me that one and I looked at

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him last night, I was like, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Compared to you, how how tall are you? Just to

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give me some perception.

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Speaker 4: So that's not me. I'm five eight, five nine. That's

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Todd standing. He's six one or six to two in

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that picture. And that was actually in New York while

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we were filming the next documentary series for Finding Bigfoot.

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I I ended up reaching out to him, like I said,

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and he called me back and he flew out to

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New York and slept on my couch. I took him

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to the exact spot where I had that encounter with

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my dad and showed him the area and everything like that.

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And that was one of the tree breaks we found

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on right next to the trail that is I think

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fourteen feet close to fourteen feet up in the air.

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And there's one that's directly on the other side of

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the trail right to my back that's ten feet off

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the trail, same as this one, but it's pointed the

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opposite direction, but it's the same exact height. And as

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you can see, there's no dead fall. There's a dead

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fall over on the side, but that's a way older tree.

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There's nothing around it, there's nothing that fell on it.

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It's just laid down under the grass or into the weeds.

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And same with the one on the other side. So

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we found that very very interesting, especially right next to

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a trail. It's a very popular hiking trail, and it's

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wild to think that people just walk right past those

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things and never really question it, So I just wanted

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to kind of throw that in there for the pictures.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think it's because they're either not open

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to the subject or they're just.

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Speaker 3: Not you know, privy to all the conversation.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, how tall do you think if you're

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counting in the height, let's say, and then you have

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to factor in the arm reach, how tall do you

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think something would have to.

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Speaker 3: Be to be able to do that. If that's fourteen feet,

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that'd be pretty.

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Speaker 4: Dam Yeah, we're talking nine or ten feet and four

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feet of arm length at that point, you know to

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grab above to have a leverage to pull it down

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and hold it in a curve. Because tree breaks, there's

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a certain way you have to break a tree in

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order for it to break like that. Understand that there's

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no marks on that tree, there's no pressure points, there's

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no like I said, there's no dead fall on it.

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The split, there's no splintering up top. That means it's

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a pressure break. So something had to have pressed on

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both sides but also held in the middle to allow

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it to fracture without splitting apart like a like a

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barber chair. Basically, that's also most of the tree breaks

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that we do find, and we're talking about now Alabama,

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in Canada and New York and Florida. The tree breaks

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they're broken that certain way and there's like hinge meat

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left basically where there's still you know, half an inch

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of wood that's still holding together. Most of the time

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if they barber chare apart, they just split or they

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just fall off or anything like that. This is very

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specifically broken that way to stay there. There's actually a

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tree break in Radium right next to our spot or

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camp spot. I think it's like eight or ten years old,

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and it like finally just kind of broke off the

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top last year or the year before. So it's it's

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wild to think that it can last that long. But

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there's no real natural way for it to happen like that.

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Speaker 3: Because it was that tree dead or is that.

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Speaker 4: No, No, that was life. So you can, yeah, the

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where the top goes into the ground where the like

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the leaves were and still kind of are dead hanging

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on to the branches, which would indicate that that was

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alive when it fell.

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Speaker 3: Potentially that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Another one that you sent me and I found interesting

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because this one looks like it kind of is twisted,

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Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that is specifically what I'm talking about with

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the tree breaks. As you can see, it's a very

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very clean break. It's actually not twisted. I think more

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so when it landed, it kind of twisted a little

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bit from the top and that's what's given it that.

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But if you look really closely at this picture, this

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is what really boggles my mind about tree breaks and

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gives me such a hard time. Is if you look

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in the middle of that tree break, there's a little

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stub sticking out, And if you look around the top

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and around like the bottom part, like really close, the

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bark is perfect. There's no finger marks, there's no rubbed bark,

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there's no there's nothing. It looks like it just snapped

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like that. And you can ask Brian when he did

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his tree break how much pressure and how much weight

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he had to put on that in order for it

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to break. And it was a smaller tree than this, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember seeing that video and it was smaller and

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circumference than that one.

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Speaker 4: Right. So at some point, if you grab it very

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close and try to put like your knee on it

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or something like that, you try to break it, you're

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gonna leave marks, whether it's gloves or a machine or

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you know, your boot, whatever the case, that you're gonna

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scratch the bark off in some aspect or peel it off.

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And there's none of that here. And you can see,

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like I said, right in the middle of the break

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where that little stub sticks out, there's no How do

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you describe how do you explain that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: How do you explain that?

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Speaker 4: You know that there's no branches broken leading up to

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the break, there's no branches broken leading down to the break,

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which would indicate that nothing slid down over top of it,

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or there's no animal like like a moose or mule

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deer that came and rubbed down that tree and caused

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it to break with its with its antlers, because there's

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no rub marks on it. Right, So it's I don't

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understand it, but that's what we happen to see all

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over the place in our research areas. I don't really

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have a way of discrib honestly, I have no idea

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how they do it. I just find it absolutely fascinating.

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That's a lot, yeah, yeah. How many people have you

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talked to you on the show that have talked about

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tree breaks.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more, but that they flit report. We'll

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be right back.

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Speaker 3: O gazillion I've been on this show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, here a gazillion, right, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a couple more pictures of some tree

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breaks in here.

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Speaker 3: It is mm hmm, this one.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that one. That's another one that I really wanted

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to include too, because as you can see, there's no

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red marks on it from antlers, there's no remarks on

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it from anything, No truck's driving by, it's off, it's

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off in the woods. There's no trails right next to it,

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anything like that. Again, a relatively clean break. It's a

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really young tree. It's very live because you can see

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it's only a couple of days old at this point maybe.

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And again if you zoom in, there's branches very very

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close to the breaking point, and the bark isn't bothered whatsoever.

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So if you try to grab it up top and

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pull down, you're gonna splinter the wood, which means that's

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a pressure break, which means you'd have to have your

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hands in it or whatever you were using to break

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that in a very speci location in order to break

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it like that. And as you can see, there's some

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marks on it. So yeah, here I am.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: So why, in your opinion, Kyle, do you think they

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do that.

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Speaker 4: That's a that's gonna be a long answer. So the

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only thing that I can deduce from it is that

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it's very important, regardless of what it is or what

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it means, because they're the masters of the wilderness. They

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they live in the woods, They live and breathe the

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outdoors and the wilderness. Right. So if they're so intune

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and so in depth and so in love and they

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live out there for that reason, because they're so close

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with nature, why would you go out of your way

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to kill a tree or do damage to nature in

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that way? So it's specific in maybe a way that

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it means something, but it's what it means is I'm

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not sure whether it's pointing to something or a trail

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or where people are, or it's don't come past here.

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I don't know, but it's significant whatever it is and

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whatever it means, right.

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Speaker 2: It's and it's and I say it all the time,

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but it's all up for speculation because nobody knows.

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Speaker 3: But I ask because my husband had.

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Speaker 2: An encounter in twenty twenty one here on our property,

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not saying one hundred percent was a big foot. Okay,

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but we've we've just ruled everything else out. But I'm

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asking because we have we live on a downslope on

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a mountain, so at the bottom of our yard we

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have a strip that I call the Amazon Jungle. And

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at that time we were I went out to sit

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on the deck and I had noticed that you could

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see the very bottom of our yard, and during the

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summer you can't because it's all grown up in that area.

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So I had went down there because I was like,

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I shouldn't be able to see this, And so when

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I walked down there to look at it closer, it

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was like near the fence, which is where his encounter happened.

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It was like this area of just push down, you know,

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just grass and you know, weeds and all this stuff.

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But we had those really tall, like milk plants, and

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they were snapped over.

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Speaker 3: In half in that one area, all of them.

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Speaker 2: The rest of that whole strip was untouched, but those

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milk weeds were like completely been over in half, pointing

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to our creek that's across the street. So I'm always

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just curious trying to get others opinions on what that

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you know, could be.

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Speaker 4: That. So typically I try to go into things with

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an open mine eye, obviously, but more so of like, Okay,

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what's the practical probable reason for this to be? And

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my first initial thought would be, Oh, it's probably, you know,

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like a betting area for deer or for bear or

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something like that. I don't know where you live, but regardless,

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that's what I would think. But the milk weeds bent

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over and yeah, pointing in the same direction towards the yes,

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that that's weird and.

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Speaker 3: That's where Yeah, that's where we were.

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Speaker 2: Like, this doesn't make any sense whatsoever because if you

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walk over just a little ways, you're at our chain

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link fence, and that's where he was standing, you know,

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when it huffed or gruffed at him and took off.

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Speaker 3: It's not that far away.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, are you stepping over our chain link

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fence and are you in our hard and if so,

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how come there's no footprints?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, have you had anything happen since?

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Speaker 2: Not since twenty twenty one, had some you know, wild

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things happen within that time period, but nothing nothing since?

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Speaker 4: So gotcha?

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Speaker 2: I don't know it's it's all very strange. But speaking

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of footprints, let's talk.

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Speaker 3: About that one.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so this is in New York. Another amazing

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thing that I found there. I love finding bidfoot tracks.

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It's like my favorite thing to do in radium. There's

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so many of them. I spend days and days just

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showing people the tracks and explaining to them how it works.

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But that's my foot for comparison. I wear size ten

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and I had put all my weight in that footprint

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before I took that picture. And as you can see,

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my heel sunk in maybe about half the depth of

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that track. Yeah, and you can if you look a

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little bit more like right towards the top of that picture,

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that's actually where the toes are. So it's a lot

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more significant than you would, you know, see if you're

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just kind of looked at it quick. But that's a

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very very deep print. And when you step in it,

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it's solid, there's no push on it, there's no a

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little bit of sponge left in it. It broke through

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the moss and crushed it all completely down to the ground.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's saying a lot because moss is hard to.

479
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,559
Speaker 4: Right, right, And I'm not a big guy. I'm like

480
00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:28,880
one thirty one forty with you know, clothes on and stuff.

481
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,759
But if I jump on it and I can't get

482
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:34,519
it to even show a track or let alone rip

483
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:41,720
the moss, something very very heavy step there, I guess it.

484
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:44,680
You know. It's it's one of those things where impressions

485
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,440
are only impressions, you know. I can't say that this

486
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,480
is for sure a sasquatch footprint, because I'm not going

487
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:51,279
to be that guy. But I find it very interesting

488
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,720
that there's so much weight in a certain position to

489
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:59,079
make that track, and I couldn't, I couldn't fake it so.

490
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: Right right when it looks like it's a right foot

491
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,160
and it does look like you can see the big

492
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,599
toe up there. Yeah, So I mean I'm seeing I'm

493
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,559
seeing what you're seeing.

494
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. And it's a very narrow track too, which will

495
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:19,200
lead into the next kind of part with this these

496
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,279
pictures that I've sent to you, what I've noticed and

497
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:26,839
what I've learned from Todd Standing is there is kind

498
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:29,319
of a way to tell the differences between, like I

499
00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:33,960
guess gender. When it comes to male female tracks, the

500
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:37,640
female tracks seem to be more slender and the male

501
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,559
tracks seem to have a narrow heel and then widen

502
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,920
out quite a bit at the top where the toes are.

503
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: Right.

504
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: And we've been able to deduce that with the sightings

505
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:52,440
we've had, the people we've had around who just know

506
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,279
that troupe specifically, and then we go back in there

507
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:59,240
the next day and we find, you know, impressions that

508
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,599
go along. Okay, we think it was this being or

509
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:08,240
this specific sasquatch, and these are the tracks that we

510
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,640
see whenever they or she or here is around. And

511
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,559
this is a new one because we know this area.

512
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,920
So this is clearly done, you know, the night before.

513
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,720
Therefore it's her track or.

514
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,039
Speaker 2: Their track, right, So, speaking of the narrowness of it,

515
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,079
would you be referring to this picture maybe.

516
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,079
Speaker 4: A way for it to load?

517
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry.

518
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:40,759
Speaker 3: You gotta love the connection issues. Is it just on

519
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:42,240
your side you're not seeing.

520
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just not seeing it. I think I know

521
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:45,480
which one you're talking about though.

522
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: It's the one where your hands in it.

523
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that another one, very deep impression,

524
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:55,799
very solid step in it to try to, you know,

525
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,640
feel the depth on it. There's no give whatsoever. Is

526
00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:01,359
straight solid soil on Herneth it again, I stepped next

527
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:04,759
to it to try, yes, to try to get that

528
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,920
pack down, and I couldn't do it. You can see

529
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,359
the toe rips out too in that one, And I mean,

530
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,200
I don't know how to gauge my hand size. I

531
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,400
just kind of did that because I didn't have anything

532
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,079
else right but that that was in New York. Also

533
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:21,720
another amazing impression that I showed to a lot of people,

534
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,640
and that again is right off of the trail. It

535
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,880
was literally we looked over and there's an oppression right

536
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,279
there on the bank. It was you couldn't ask for

537
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,759
a more clear one or have to go hunting for

538
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:35,000
a track. It was right there.

539
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: That's and see if people would just get out there,

540
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:44,160
if they would get out there first okay, and then second,

541
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,799
if they would take their nose out of their phone,

542
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,000
because you see that, so.

543
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: I mean you're in nature, You're you're like, I mean,

544
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,039
put your phone down. They would see that.

545
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: The problem, the problem that I have with tracks in

546
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,759
all honesty, though, is I find them in places like that.

547
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,519
There's a lot of like spagnum moss or just moss

548
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:09,759
in general, and you can't cast them. There's no way

549
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,400
to cast them because to cast material just runs out

550
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,480
underneath in the moss. So like anytime I find really

551
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,039
good tracks, it's always in the in the moss, never

552
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,519
anywhere else. That's one of my goals is I really

553
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:23,680
want to cast my own track that I found. But

554
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,440
apparently it's not my time yet, so we'll just give

555
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680
it a couple more years. Hopefully.

556
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll come around. I'm sure it will.

557
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,599
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this picture up here,

558
00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:37,240
and I'm not sure if you're gonna be able to

559
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,079
see it, but it is the picture you sent me

560
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,839
with the mountain in the back. It's it's like a postcard.

561
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that that's one of the pictures I

562
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,799
included strictly just to yeah, look how beautiful that is.

563
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,720
That's one of the views going up to the Upper

564
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:58,920
Radium site where Todd and survivor man fill on the

565
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,039
top of the head of the Sasquatch. That's that trail

566
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:04,119
to get up to that spot and you look back

567
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,279
and that's what you see. If that doesn't get you

568
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,079
out and want to make you want to get out

569
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:11,640
there in nature and just be out there and enjoy

570
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,960
the views. And I don't know what will because that's

571
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:17,039
the most spectacular view I've ever seen in my life.

572
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you sent it, I was like, God, that

573
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,640
that would make such a great postcard.

574
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,839
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's actually one of the backgrounds

575
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:26,559
in my phone, is that.

576
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a good one to have as your background.

577
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,960
And you just you look at this and you're like,

578
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:39,880
there is so much acreage where I mean, anything, anything,

579
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:42,880
even if it's not bigfoot, could be right.

580
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:47,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Let's see if I can.

581
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I showed that one, all right, so this

582
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,119
one and now I'm gonna can you see this one?

583
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:56,359
Speaker 4: Yes?

584
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: Okay, this one.

585
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,039
Speaker 2: When I look it, I went back to Tuesday Show

586
00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:07,720
because they had something so similar to this and a

587
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,599
picture that they had sent. Yes, So where was this

588
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,400
picture taken? What's kind of the story behind that?

589
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: So this is also in radium technically not really, it's

590
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,039
like just on the outskirts of our research area. I

591
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:27,640
think the story behind it is we have a very

592
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,720
a very awesome guy who uh who comes out with

593
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,319
us pretty much every year. He's one of our our

594
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,240
our group, you know, people that everybody knows who was

595
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,839
in the group knows this person, very very wonderful human.

596
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,839
I've gotten the pleasure to talk to him on the

597
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,200
phone a few times, and I think I did a

598
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,079
show with him. But they just wanted to go and explore,

599
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:52,759
because when nothing's happening out there, you just kind of

600
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:54,559
want to go and see see the sites and drive

601
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:56,400
around and do all this other stuff. So they picked

602
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,519
a logging road to drive up. And when they came

603
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,519
up this back when that we've never gone up before,

604
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,839
they stopped because they saw something and they walked up

605
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:09,000
into the woods and they found this and it was

606
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:11,160
just one of those like I want to go up

607
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,000
there type feelings. It wasn't really like a sad thing

608
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:15,720
like hey, I want to go up this trail and

609
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:17,640
walk in. It was just they were driving and they go,

610
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,200
something's up there, and they found that, and there's actually

611
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:25,440
a lot of other structures up there. I actually took

612
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,079
Brian there on his expedition, and this was I think

613
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,279
the third or the fourth day of his expedition, so

614
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,839
he had already seen everything going on in Radium and

615
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:37,000
we brought him to this site, which was you know,

616
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,000
five ten miles away at that point, and he was like, well,

617
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,880
I that was actually one of the first times I

618
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,519
saw it. I was there the week prior, so I

619
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:49,880
went to see it because I need to know where

620
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,720
it was to Tick Brian. But it's absolutely incredible, and

621
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:56,160
standing in the middle of that, it's still ten twelve

622
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,480
feet high at the peak. It's just it's absolutely spectacular.

623
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,960
How they did that, I don't know how they do it.

624
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720
And those are those aren't small either. I mean they

625
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,759
look kind of small in the picture. I think there's

626
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:11,239
still three or four inches on the small side. But

627
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,679
they're also like forty feet long fifty feet long, right,

628
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,360
And as you can see in that picture, I don't

629
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,440
know how you would take a forty foot long pole

630
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,400
and be able to maneuver it through all those other

631
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,760
trees to stick it up into that specific spot without

632
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:31,639
breaking it or even getting it there, you know what

633
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,159
I'm saying, Right, that's a long piece of wood to

634
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,719
try to put in a specific spot with all these

635
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,800
other trees around you without breaking any other trees by

636
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,760
the way, and also obviously some wind damage because all

637
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,719
of those other trees that have been toppled over and

638
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,360
it'd be in a.

639
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: Big mess right well, And that's you know, when you

640
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,159
have several trees like that, and they're that circumference and

641
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,440
especially the length.

642
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:57,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be I just wish we could talk

643
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,920
to them and say, what does this mean? We see

644
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,000
these things all.

645
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: The time, you know, whether whether you're thinking, well, this

646
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,199
is bus it's a human that did this, or it's

647
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,960
what you know, you're in the line of thinking that

648
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,079
we do. There has to be you know, something really tall,

649
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:17,320
really strong, with thumbs in the woods making I mean,

650
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,199
it's yeah, I just want to know what it's for.

651
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:22,679
Speaker 3: There has to be some kind of reason.

652
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: We need a Rosetta stone, for sure.

653
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: We do.

654
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:31,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we had I think it was Mike Miller

655
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,159
was talking about Ellis was trying to do something like

656
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:39,760
the Rossetto stone with all the with all the sounds

657
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,360
and stuff that he's getting. So it's I don't know,

658
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:48,280
it's just really fascinating. Oh yeah, thing that you see

659
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,760
all the time. Okay, can you see this picture?

660
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:52,519
Speaker 4: Not yet?

661
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:55,119
Speaker 3: Okay, so there we go.

662
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:00,559
Speaker 4: Okay, Now, I don't remember if that one was in

663
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,599
Radium or New York, but a very awesome picture of

664
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:10,599
an impression appears to be you know, a thinner track,

665
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,400
but again in a really great location. You can see

666
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,119
it clear as day, at least for me, because I

667
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:19,480
love looking for tracks. It's one of my favorite things

668
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,360
to do. But just to kind of show what they

669
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,679
look like and what I happen to find. And as

670
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:28,159
you can tell, I can't cast that thing. So it's

671
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,159
kind of like a little bit of a he he

672
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,679
guess what. I'm gonna leave you this impression. You're gonna

673
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:34,199
find it, but you're not gonna be able to do

674
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:35,239
anything but take a picture of it.

675
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna be captured me with it, buddy.

676
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:38,519
Speaker 2: Mm.

677
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,079
Speaker 4: It's like a game. There are always ten steps ahead.

678
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: Yes, and we hear that too, always always.

679
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: There's so much smarter than we are. It's baffling. So

680
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,760
this is another I think this is the last picture

681
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,519
you sent me. It's it's another tree break.

682
00:36:58,559 --> 00:36:59,159
Speaker 3: Can you see that?

683
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's in radium. I remember that. Another great exploit.

684
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,719
Well not, I guess not. Explanation example of I don't

685
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,559
know how they do tree breaks again. It's a very

686
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,599
very young tree that breaks only maybe a couple of

687
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:27,199
days old, cup maybe a week old. It is Barber

688
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,960
shared a little bit on the top. You can see

689
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,920
where it kind of split off in half. But again,

690
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,199
there's no pressure marks on it. There's no ways to

691
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,239
kind of show how it was broken or why it

692
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,760
was broken. It's pointed up the trail. I don't know.

693
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480
It just it just absolutely boggles my mind how they

694
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:49,239
do it, and I'd love to know why, But I

695
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,679
guess we still haven't found that Rosetta stone, you know.

696
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,599
And it's just one of the things. It's like you

697
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:57,280
said earlier, it's up to kind of how we want

698
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,320
to see it and how we want to or what

699
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,039
we want to believe it means, right, and maybe it

700
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,119
means a lot of things. Maybe it's not just one

701
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:08,239
specific thing. Maybe it's hey, there's water here, or there's

702
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,119
people over there. It's just maybe it's just kind of

703
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:15,119
an arrow like warning. Yeah, maybe that's all it is,

704
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,079
you know, And maybe that's important enough to be able

705
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,840
to kill a tree right.

706
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:25,039
Speaker 2: To them, to them, Yeah, yeah, because I mean again,

707
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:28,559
it's like you said, why would they you know, if

708
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:31,039
they're protecting and all this other stuff.

709
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: Why But yeah, that makes that makes sense.

710
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: If it mattered all that much, or it didn't matter

711
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,159
all that much, why not break a dead tree?

712
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,079
Speaker 2: Uh huh?

713
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 4: You know, why does it have to be alive. So

714
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:48,679
there there's significance in it. It's just finding the significance,

715
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:51,159
right do.

716
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: You think And this just came to my head and

717
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,920
I'm probably gonna sound like an absolute dufaist, but I'm

718
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,639
good with that too. So there we'll get into trees

719
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,360
for like grubs and stuff like that.

720
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: Do you think that they would do that.

721
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:15,119
Speaker 4: I've never seen it like happen like that. I guess

722
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:18,679
there's always a possibility of it. But then again, on

723
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,199
live trees that don't have any sort of sustenance for

724
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,280
a bear, why is the bear going to waste its

725
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:33,320
energy on doing something like that for little to know nothing. Yeah, food,

726
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,039
I could see maybe if it was like a bigger

727
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:40,400
tree and it was dead and you're gonna see claw

728
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,119
marks up and down that tree all the time. You're

729
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:45,159
gonna see where they're trying to push the tree over right,

730
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:48,039
and you're gonna see where they've ripped the tree apart

731
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,639
on the ground and flipped rocks over in the area

732
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:54,079
and stuff like that. For that, I mean, there are

733
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:57,719
flipped over rocks on that trail specifically, but there's no

734
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,840
reason for a bear to do that. And even then,

735
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,239
if if the bear did that. I don't want to

736
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,679
know how he did it, because.

737
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more. But the Bigfoot were for We'll

738
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:07,639
be right back.

739
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 4: There's no teeth marks on it, right, there's no scratch marks,

740
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,519
there's no claw marks on it.

741
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:14,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

742
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:17,119
Speaker 2: Well, and I was just thinking along lines of you know,

743
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:20,599
do you think bigfoot would get into trees to eat

744
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:23,360
things that were living in them?

745
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: Sorry I took that. I mean I didn't see why not.

746
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,159
It's a great hiding spot because if you get up

747
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:32,079
in the canopy, nobody's gonna go up there and look

748
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:37,000
for you cover from overhead. Yeah, I don't see why not.

749
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,679
I mean maybe they go after beehives or stuff like

750
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,119
that too, So is that possibility?

751
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: So what are what are what are some of the

752
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:53,039
most crazy encounters you've had with Todd?

753
00:40:55,079 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 4: One stands out specifically, and it wasn't even really that crazy,

754
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:05,039
It's just okay. So I spent a lot of time

755
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:08,800
up and radio by myself. Months now, I've been completely

756
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,280
by myself, let alone with other people and on on

757
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:17,519
you know, research with Todd and our other people are

758
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,400
a group, and I've never told any of them that

759
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,599
I wanted a rock thrown at me. Nobody ever knew that.

760
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,800
I've never had it happen to me before, and like

761
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,400
I said, I never never said anything to anybody. I've

762
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,480
been out there that whole time by myself. I've gone

763
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,000
out into bear Alley by myself. Bears don't really come

764
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,880
around me, which is a great thing because I don't

765
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,960
want eithers around me. But specifically Todd was out there

766
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,960
with me. It was just him and I. I actually

767
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,519
I think Ashley might have been out there too, which

768
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:48,840
she was doing something else. Early in the morning. We

769
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,519
got up and he was kind of feeling some weird

770
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,559
things going on in his head, and I just kind

771
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:57,480
of wanted to go find some berries because I really

772
00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:01,079
love I forget the name of them. There's a certain

773
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:04,320
type of berry out there. Absolutely love those berries, bunch berries,

774
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,280
and I wanted to go find him for breakfast. Right,

775
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,719
So we go out of camp and I'm like, I

776
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,440
just wanted to go this way, and He's like, yeah,

777
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,880
I kind of feel that too. So we walk over

778
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,159
that way and we just bushwhack in and right in

779
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:19,760
front of me there is probably two hundred and three

780
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,840
hundred bunch berries on the ground. I was like, oh

781
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,480
my god, perfect this is what I was looking for.

782
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,800
So I'd get down on the ground and I'm eating

783
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,159
all picking all these bunch berries everything like that. Todd

784
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,280
is ahead of me to my left a little bit,

785
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,079
probably about ten fifteen feet, and he's kneeling down. I

786
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:36,480
don't know what he's doing. I'm not really paying attention.

787
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:39,320
I'm happy with my bunch berries, so you know, I'm

788
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,159
just happy as can be eaten. And over on the

789
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:44,119
other side of us, to the right of us is

790
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:48,679
actually the National Forest boundary for BAMF. It's right there,

791
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,000
maybe fifty sixty yards away, and we don't really go

792
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:53,719
over there. Well now we do because we found structure

793
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,039
over there, but we never really used to go over there.

794
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:59,480
That was kind of out of our aspect because we

795
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:02,320
never really had anything happened over there. So I'm sitting

796
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,559
there eating bunch berries and Todd just kind of murmurs

797
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,599
watch this, and I look at him, like what, And

798
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:12,039
all of a sudden, a rock comes out of nowhere

799
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:15,679
over on the boundary side and flies. You can hear

800
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:17,960
it hitting the branches, hitting the tree branches and the

801
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:21,199
leaves and stuff, and just PLoP right between us and

802
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,199
rolls up the bank. And I looked at him like,

803
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,239
did you just say watch this? He's like, I don't

804
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,000
know where that came from. I just said it, like,

805
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:34,760
don't really know. I was like, oh my god, Okay,

806
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,960
that's crazy. I wanted a rock thrown at me. He's like,

807
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,360
I'm like, yeah, I never told anybody. So I found

808
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,360
the rock. It's actually in in the camper. I left

809
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,280
it there. But it was a perfect, perfect throwing rock too.

810
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:49,760
That was That was really cool. That was one of

811
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,719
those like okay, that was that was for me. That

812
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,760
was one hundred percent for me. But I can't be

813
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,599
I can't be more happy about that.

814
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool.

815
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,559
Speaker 2: So do they do you guys experience like the smells

816
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:08,639
and everything like that that you hear about what is it?

817
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,840
And and people struggle trying to describe the smell and

818
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,320
I get it, what what what is that for you?

819
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,079
Speaker 3: As far as the smell goes.

820
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,519
Speaker 4: So for me, it's smelled a lot like it's smelled

821
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:26,400
a lot like propine, just that kind of like musky eggs,

822
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,519
like rotten eggs type smell, like you you almost felt

823
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:32,679
it when you smelled it, you know. It's very similar

824
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:35,920
to that, at least for for me, just kind of

825
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,880
growing up around that stuff, that's what I attributed to.

826
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,840
For other people, it's probably gonna smell different. That's just

827
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,239
the pheromones that they give off. But other than that,

828
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,519
that's you just kind of catch a little bit of

829
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,760
a waft of it and you're like, I'm out in

830
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,480
the middle of the woods, why am I smelling propeine?

831
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:53,639
And then you go, oh, okay, I know what that is,

832
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:57,599
right right, Yeah.

833
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: I was just I was just curious because you hear different.

834
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: You know, well, it smelled like, you know, rotten meat

835
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,199
or garbage or a skunk or a wet dog.

836
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, So do you.

837
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 4: Think that it depends on depends on the being?

838
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so do you think.

839
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 4: I mean, if you think about it, like if they're

840
00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:22,960
if they're like if they if they're a tribe, if

841
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,480
they're a troop, they're all gonna have their different personalities,

842
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,360
they're different ways, they're different beliefs, all that other stuff.

843
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,000
Like just like you and me, So like you're gonna

844
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,320
smell naturally different than I'm gonna smell, and I'm gonna

845
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,559
smell naturally different from anybody else that I pick off,

846
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,000
you know, the street. So I think it's just kind

847
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,119
of the same way with them. Whether or not you

848
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:42,960
smell the same exact thing that I do, it's probably

849
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,960
just because it's a different being, It's a different.

850
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,599
Speaker 3: Right, you know, right.

851
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:50,119
Speaker 2: Do you think they put that smell off for like

852
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,719
protection or a get the hell out of here?

853
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 4: So they're very intimidating. They love to be intimidating. I

854
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,719
think that's why they stop around and yell and stuff

855
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,280
like that. But I think it's mostly just because they

856
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,679
want you to know that they're there. I think they

857
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,119
they hint at it a little bit, like if if

858
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:16,760
they see you and they don't really know, maybe they'll

859
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:19,880
kind of go up wind of you just to see

860
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,039
if you catch on it and you go, oh, what's that?

861
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:24,880
Or maybe if they, you know, knock a tree or

862
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,159
something like that makes you look if you don't pay

863
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,239
any attention, maybe that's the sign of them like, ah,

864
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,280
he's not ready. But I think it's mostly just to

865
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,599
kind of test the waters and see if you're actually

866
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,920
paying attention, or see if you're anybody that are even

867
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:41,320
willing to mess with or try to communicate with.

868
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:44,679
Speaker 3: Got you, got you? Yeah, I was.

869
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,079
Speaker 2: I was just curious because we do hear that.

870
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 4: That's if you're out in the woods and you smell that,

871
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,239
it's not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe there's a bigfoot

872
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,360
trying to trying to communicate with you.

873
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,119
Speaker 2: Well believe, if it was trying to communicate me with me,

874
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:05,840
it wouldn't it wouldn't tend to smell quite so bad.

875
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:10,920
They can, yeah, yeah, I mean they can toss a

876
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,199
pebble at me.

877
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm over here, way.

878
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 4: Way far in the distance here, knock, knock.

879
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: Okay, exactly, don't come up on me stinking.

880
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,159
Speaker 4: I mean, it's definitely surprising when they do that, because

881
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:33,119
for how big they are, man, they can move so

882
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:39,119
quiet before. And I was just like, oh, how did

883
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:42,360
you do that? That's crazy. Okay, I'm gonna look at

884
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,599
you anymore, exactly.

885
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:50,079
Speaker 2: And I don't understand how something seemingly as big as

886
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:51,000
these things are.

887
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: They're just so stealth, you know.

888
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: And it's like when my husband saw whatever it was,

889
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:03,280
he saw it was two seconds, you know, and it

890
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,639
was gone, and it I mean gone. He heard it

891
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,559
doing that little through the woods and it was I

892
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:15,000
mean it was gone. Just something large and massive, And

893
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,760
I mean, you don't know they're there when you go

894
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,599
into the woods.

895
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: You don't. I mean, you just don't hear them.

896
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: They only are heard when they want to be heard.

897
00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:28,559
But I mean, you think about it. They're born in it,

898
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:32,599
they grow up in it. They play their games, and

899
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,760
they do whatever they do, just out there in nature naked,

900
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,199
you know, so they gotta That's the only way I

901
00:48:41,199 --> 00:48:44,199
can explain it is just they're so used to sneaking

902
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,599
up on their prey to eat, and they they probably

903
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,199
play hide and seek games with each other when their siblings,

904
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,440
and they're you know, with their siblings when they're young.

905
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:56,360
So absolutely the masters of the wilderness. They can do

906
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:00,880
just about anything, I think without being protected. I mean,

907
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,159
they're that big. They got to eat somehow, so I

908
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:06,639
can imagine that they can. They can pinpoint a deer

909
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:08,519
with a rock or run it up, run up to

910
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:11,039
it real fast without them even realizing it was there.

911
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: And their precision for that is phenomenal. If they're throwing

912
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,159
a rock at you, they could, they could knock you out,

913
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,239
but they don't. It goes right beside you.

914
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 4: M Oh yeah. And I've had I've had campfire chats

915
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,039
with Todd and he's told me stories of you know,

916
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:35,079
when he's doing his backcountry stuff to try to get footage.

917
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:39,920
One specific instance that I remember, he was working along

918
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,880
a rock ledge, I think, to try to kind of

919
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,119
get up to another level. And they were throwing rocks

920
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,079
and they were knocking and they were screaming and doing

921
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:49,920
all their things, and a rock came and literally smashed

922
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,960
like right in front of his face on the rock,

923
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:54,039
and it blasted the rock apart and the pieces, and

924
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:57,000
it almost blinded them because because of it, you know,

925
00:49:57,039 --> 00:49:59,800
going into his eyes, and they would they would pelt

926
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,159
him the legs with like tiny little pebbles and he's like, man,

927
00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:05,960
it felt like I got shot with like a pellet

928
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,960
gun in the in the calf. He's like, it put

929
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,639
almost put me on my knees because it hurts so bad.

930
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:15,000
And you got to imagine that the accuracy to throw

931
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:18,159
a tiny little rock how far away you know exactly

932
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,880
that hint right where you're trying to hit. They must

933
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,880
be good at, you know, squirrel hunting.

934
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: Right right. Thank you, Troy. That is very sweet.

935
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I've always thought it was the precision that

936
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,000
the Bigfoot have.

937
00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 3: It's it's boggling. So in your opinion, Uh, what do

938
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,840
you think they are, What are they?

939
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: What do I think they are? What do you think

940
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,519
is like flesh and blood versus like being able to

941
00:50:57,559 --> 00:50:58,639
like teleport and stuff.

942
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:03,039
Speaker 3: Well, well, I mean we can go there. I'm down there.

943
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: I was just asking your general opinion of what you

944
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:09,920
think a bigfoot is.

945
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there are sentient species of I

946
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,840
guess maybe I'm going to say it wrong. I'm probably

947
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,599
gonna say it wrong humanoid or hominid or homini in

948
00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:25,719
one of the three that I picked. But I think

949
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,840
their sin I think they absolutely are very in tune

950
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:38,679
with their spiritual side, and they're very tight knit family groups. Absolutely,

951
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:42,280
I mean it just makes sense. Absolutely, just makes sense.

952
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,360
The way they move, the way they triangulate, the way

953
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,719
they are, the way they survive, the way that they've

954
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,519
been living for who knows how long without our detection.

955
00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:55,719
I mean we're talking, we're in the the technology that

956
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,440
we have, yeah, that that we can do almost what

957
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:04,119
I mean, we can launch rockets thousands of miles away, yeah,

958
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,599
you know, but we can't find this species. So they're

959
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:12,679
doing something right. And for me, it only kind of

960
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,760
makes sense that we haven't found them because they can

961
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,719
evade that technology, which means they must be able to

962
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,280
do some sort of cloaking. But I can't say that

963
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,960
because I don't have any firsthand account of that. I've

964
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,880
never seen one just disappear in front of my eyes.

965
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:27,840
I've talked to people who have had stuff like that

966
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,960
happen to me, and the people that I've talked to

967
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:32,599
have been very close, very trustworthy people, and I've had

968
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:35,719
no reason to not or to disprove or discount what

969
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,880
they say. So for me, and I've said it before,

970
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:44,880
the teleportation and the cloaking and all that stuff, I

971
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,199
kind of have to shelf it for now. It's on

972
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:50,199
the bookshelf. It's there. I just can't talk about it

973
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,000
right now because I don't have enough information on it.

974
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:55,280
And same without orbs and stuff like that. UFOs have

975
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,559
seen UFOs. Brian was out there with me. We all

976
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,880
saw UFOs together. So that's not you know, that's not

977
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,639
a thing that I really branch out into. But I

978
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:09,960
find very very interesting that, you know, Bigfoot and UFO

979
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:12,960
is kind of have the same like people talk about

980
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,320
them in the same instance, or people have seen them together. Yes,

981
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,920
And I know I'm kind of derailing my conversation but

982
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,280
I just want to talk about it real quick.

983
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,519
Speaker 3: No, I'm here, I'm telling you, do you talk.

984
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,199
Speaker 4: So there's a correlation in some aspect with bigfoot and UFOs.

985
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,679
I think we can all say that that's true, right, right, So,

986
00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:39,559
I think if Sasquatch are as spiritual as they are

987
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:42,840
and as in tune with nature and the way they

988
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:48,400
are with nature, they're going to be attracted to lay lines,

989
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,599
and they're going to be attracted to vortex's and energy

990
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,159
and stuff like that. Now, if there's some sort of

991
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,079
other species out there that are much higher knowledge and

992
00:53:59,159 --> 00:54:04,119
they're able to transport themselves, I guess you could say,

993
00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:09,000
or travel to other parts of the universe very fast,

994
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:11,719
and they were studying us, or studying our evolution, or

995
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,480
whatever the case may be. They're interested in us somehow,

996
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,559
wouldn't they be attracted to the same things. Wouldn't they

997
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:19,719
be attracted to the vortices, And wouldn't they be attracted

998
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:24,760
the high energy locations and whatever spiritual significance there is,

999
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,280
whether it be caves or lay lines or magnetic field arrays.

1000
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,159
Probably botch that last term, but whatever, I think they're

1001
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,440
just I think they're just attracted to the same things.

1002
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,760
I think it's just why we kind of see them

1003
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,960
together or why we attribute them to the same kind

1004
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,079
of aspect of our knowledge, because we don't know enough

1005
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,679
about either of them, but we seem to see them together.

1006
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:53,280
So that's kind of my only my only theory on it,

1007
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:58,440
right But what we were talking about four, Like I said,

1008
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,159
I don't have enough experience to talk about the cloaking

1009
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,480
and that type of stuff. I'm not gonna talk about

1010
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,559
it right now. I know for a fact that they

1011
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:12,599
are a living species. They are flesh and blood. They

1012
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:15,519
do eat and sleep and use the bathroom like every

1013
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:18,639
other human or every other animal pretty much out there.

1014
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:24,360
Other than that, I that's that's just what they are.

1015
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,000
And I think they're very very intelligent, and I think

1016
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:28,480
that's why they've been able to do a vadis for

1017
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:30,599
so long. But on the other hand, too, I think

1018
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:32,320
that there's a little bit of you know, cover up

1019
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,880
to that we can get into that. Yeah, I mean,

1020
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:37,719
but I also don't want my show to be shut

1021
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,639
off automatically for no reason.

1022
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: Please don't make me clear, just cancel me, Kyle.

1023
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm totally picking up what you were putting down. So

1024
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,480
we we will save both of.

1025
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,519
Speaker 3: Our asses and stop right there with that.

1026
00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:08,599
Speaker 2: Commerce Yeah, well we are already over an hour, yep.

1027
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,599
Speaker 3: So but that's what we talked about. You like to talk.

1028
00:56:11,639 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 4: I like to talk.

1029
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: They were just in trouble tonight.

1030
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: I get off on tangents. I get in these tangents

1031
00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:20,760
and like one point leads to another and I'm like, oh,

1032
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,920
but I can talk about that. Then I get into

1033
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,800
that for thirty minutes.

1034
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean, I have no plans. My

1035
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,679
daughter's fifteen and she's got her EarPods and her dog,

1036
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,840
and my husband's working in an overnight shift. I mean,

1037
00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:38,199
I'm free, fair enough.

1038
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 4: It depends on how long everybody wants to watch us

1039
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,000
babble about this stuff. I guess.

1040
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 3: Well, it's our crew. They're here for it.

1041
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 4: Thanks everybody who's still watching at this point.

1042
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1043
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 2: We have a very a very faithful crew, and they're

1044
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:55,800
very interactive.

1045
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,079
Speaker 3: And you have quite a few questions. If you want

1046
00:56:58,159 --> 00:56:59,280
me to get into some up.

1047
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get into it.

1048
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Well, first off, I'm doing to Google. Thank

1049
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,920
you for the two ninety nine. I appreciate that. Chris

1050
00:57:11,039 --> 00:57:13,599
Boylock said, how do you think we can get to

1051
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:17,199
the next level improving its existence.

1052
00:57:19,679 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: I think it's going to take just more of us

1053
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:25,079
getting out in the woods, getting off her phone, getting

1054
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:28,920
off the internet, getting out, getting our bare feet in

1055
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,800
the dirt, getting our hands in the water, and just

1056
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,360
going out there and being one with nature again and

1057
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:38,199
doing your camping trips and just getting out and breathing

1058
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:40,719
the fresh air, get away from your phone. That's going

1059
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,239
to be what it takes is just more people doing that.

1060
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:47,719
They come around from what I have experienced, when you're

1061
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,079
not worried about what bill you're going to pay or

1062
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:51,800
how you're going to pay it, or going back to

1063
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,559
work on Monday. They just want to see you out

1064
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:59,199
there living, And I think that's a very significant part

1065
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:03,639
of it. As for like proving their existence, I mean,

1066
00:58:03,679 --> 00:58:05,840
you're just gonna have to probably take some video cameras

1067
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:11,199
with you, but just having having encounters with them and

1068
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:15,360
being respectful of their environment and respectful of what we're

1069
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,679
doing to their environment. I can only hope that it

1070
00:58:18,719 --> 00:58:21,440
would bring them out more and make them be a

1071
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,000
little bit more friendly with us, and that would provide

1072
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:26,519
us with more encounters and more knowledge and more understanding

1073
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:30,039
of them. So it just starts with shutting your phone off.

1074
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, hike, Yeah, there'll be a human go out and

1075
00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:39,920
go out and be like wild and zany and in

1076
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,239
loud because they're gonna be drawn to you because they're

1077
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:49,119
naturally curious. Yep, don't go in there a whisper and

1078
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:51,119
tiptoe be freaking.

1079
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,159
Speaker 4: Yeah. If you're being sneaky, then that generally well, not

1080
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:56,000
that they can say they don't like that, but if

1081
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,440
you're being sneaky, it probably puts off the wrong energy energy.

1082
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: Yes, let's see Troy in Tennessee wants to know how

1083
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,800
many Class A, B or C encounters.

1084
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: Have you had?

1085
00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:14,679
Speaker 4: Now? Is that with UFOs or is that with Bigfoot.

1086
00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:18,719
I'm gonna I'm gonna say Bigfoot class A being like

1087
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:24,440
sighting to at least too. There might be another one

1088
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,639
in there, maybe three. Uh, It just kind of depends

1089
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:30,039
on if I was right in being that was a

1090
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:34,400
sasquatch or not B. I've had a lot of instances

1091
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,159
where I've heard yells, wood knocks, tree breaks, I've heard

1092
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:43,599
tree breaks being being made. I've heard them stop through

1093
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:49,199
the woods. There's a lot of class b's, uh, class C,

1094
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:52,159
I'm not sure kind of what stipulates into a class C,

1095
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:58,039
but maybe just kind of hearing them or whatever the

1096
00:59:58,079 --> 00:59:58,639
case may.

1097
00:59:58,519 --> 01:00:00,599
Speaker 1: Be, stay for more.

1098
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: But the big Foot we board.

1099
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

1100
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,239
Speaker 4: There's quite a few of them. It's bad to the

1101
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:09,159
point because a lot of people are gonna blast me

1102
01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:12,320
because like, oh, you should remember every sighting you've had.

1103
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,559
Anybody would remember every detail. When you've had so many

1104
01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:17,360
and you've been involved with it for so long and

1105
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,239
you've heard so many other people's stories, they just kind

1106
01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:23,079
of fade out. Honestly, I just don't really remember some

1107
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,360
of them, or I'll think about it and be like, oh,

1108
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,840
I remember that happened, but it's too late now, you know. Yeah,

1109
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:31,760
But yeah, there's been quite a few.

1110
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,679
Speaker 2: All right. Ristol said, have you been working with Logan

1111
01:00:36,719 --> 01:00:38,480
at all with the Radium live Stream?

1112
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: Any promising captures?

1113
01:00:41,559 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 4: So absolutely love Logan. Logan is by far one of

1114
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,760
my favorite friends. Him and I. I try to keep

1115
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,159
in touch with them as much as it can. He's

1116
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:54,360
got a busy life. The Radium live Stream has been

1117
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,199
a very promising thing. I maybe not have been involved

1118
01:00:58,239 --> 01:00:59,920
with it as much as I'd like to have been,

1119
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,280
but that's also because it's very technology based and you're

1120
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,280
talking about like Wi Fi and you're talking about you know,

1121
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,719
like a streaming platform or whatever the case. I don't

1122
01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:13,480
even know how to talk about it. That's how removed

1123
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,920
I am from that stuff. And he's he's a tech wiz,

1124
01:01:17,159 --> 01:01:20,119
very very intelligent guy. He built the app and everything

1125
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:23,400
pretty much from from I guess what nothing would be

1126
01:01:24,159 --> 01:01:28,599
on the internet side. I did talk to him a

1127
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:30,920
little bit about it when we first kind of came out.

1128
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,519
They gave him some ideas. He threw some some pictures

1129
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:37,760
and like the app when it was very new at

1130
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:38,800
me and it was just like, hey, what do you

1131
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,199
think of this? Should we change this? What do you

1132
01:01:41,199 --> 01:01:42,960
think of the spawn at this background? Stuff like that

1133
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,119
that I helped on. Other than that, I haven't been

1134
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:49,760
up there in a year, so I haven't had the

1135
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,039
opportunity to get up there and get on camera or

1136
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:57,079
help with any setup process. We did have Starlink the

1137
01:01:57,199 --> 01:01:59,039
last year that I was there, that was still very

1138
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:02,480
new to us. From what I can tell, the live

1139
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,000
streams that I've been watching have been super clear. I

1140
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,760
don't know how they do it. I give props to

1141
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,199
Logan for that. I'd love to be a little bit

1142
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:14,199
more of a part of it. But I don't know

1143
01:02:14,199 --> 01:02:16,400
if I would do any benefit to it, because I'd

1144
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,480
probably log in wrong and blow the whole system up

1145
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:22,119
or something other than that. Now, it's absolutely if you

1146
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,280
don't know what I'm talking about. Basically, up in our

1147
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,320
research area in Radium at our base camp, we have

1148
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,039
live stream cameras up and if I think if you

1149
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,119
are subscribed to it, you can move the camera around,

1150
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:40,719
You have control over the camera zooming, night vision or

1151
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,840
day vision, you can move the camera to a different location.

1152
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,159
It does have sound and stuff like that on it.

1153
01:02:46,639 --> 01:02:52,360
They're very very great quality cameras and super great picture

1154
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,000
quality too. I don't know, like I said, how they

1155
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,159
do it, but definitely go check it out. That's the

1156
01:02:57,199 --> 01:02:59,599
bare bones of what we do. That's where we are,

1157
01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:01,320
that's where we spend our time if we're not out

1158
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,519
hiking and doing our research. If there is an actual

1159
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,840
expedition going on, you can hear the campfire chats, you

1160
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,440
can hear what people are talking about, you can hear

1161
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,800
the wood knocks off in the distance. It's if you

1162
01:03:13,719 --> 01:03:18,280
can't make it or are just kind of not really

1163
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,760
that into it and you want to go watch them.

1164
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,960
It kind of gives you, like that, that backseat, open

1165
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,239
door view of what we what we do there. So

1166
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,280
I think it's a really immersive way to be a part,

1167
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,159
really really immersive way to be a part of our

1168
01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:38,280
group and of the Discovering Bigfoot collective without even really

1169
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,840
having to fly out to Canada to do it.

1170
01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a lot cheaper.

1171
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:46,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, much cheaper.

1172
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: All right, Troy wants to know again, Kyle, I have frozen.

1173
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:53,039
Can you still hear me?

1174
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.

1175
01:03:54,639 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: Okay, my screen's frozen on this god awful face there.

1176
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,800
We get that was awful. Sorry, y'all, Kyle. Do you

1177
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,719
research in any areas other than Radium.

1178
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 4: Right now? No. I try to to stay kind of

1179
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,679
in one area. I like to to just kind of

1180
01:04:20,679 --> 01:04:24,440
be a part of one one troop or one you know,

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01:04:24,719 --> 01:04:27,880
tribe of them, just because I like to habituate with

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01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:33,079
a single group or a single individual in it. And

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01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:37,320
there's a couple that I have had relatively close connection to,

1184
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,639
I guess we'll say, so, I try not to kind

1185
01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:45,280
of taint that. I'd rather almost not go to other areas,

1186
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,719
just because I don't know how that tribe or that trooper.

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,159
Those individuals are going to react or act with me

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01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,440
there being that I have knowledge of them and I've

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01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,960
I've interacted with others. I don't know if they can

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01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:03,440
or whatnot. And just I don't know the land, I

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01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,840
don't know the area. And maybe if I had a

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,800
guide or had somebody to kind of bring me out

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01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,119
there and show me what's going on and then actually

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01:05:10,199 --> 01:05:12,000
live interact with one, and then I can trust a

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01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,760
little bit more and I would probably go back. But

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right now Radium is really my only area that I

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01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:18,639
like to go back to because I know they're not

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gonna throw a rock at me in the middle night

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try to kill me. So that's that's pretty important for me.

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Speaker 3: There's always that.

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01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,639
Speaker 2: Let's see, Chris wants to know, have you tried to

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get a DNA from your tracks?

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01:05:34,519 --> 01:05:38,639
Speaker 4: I have not. That is that as well outside of

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01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:43,360
my range of research, I don't have the technology capability

1205
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,400
for that. I'd love to. I'd love to learn more

1206
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,760
about it, and I probably will now that you asked.

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,159
I know that there are a lot of research researchers

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01:05:53,159 --> 01:05:56,440
out there that are branching into that and actually collecting DNA,

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01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:02,199
which is super amazing. That's extraordinary. I think we need

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01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:05,400
more of that, to be completely honest with you, it

1211
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,760
is something that I probably should get into. So thank

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01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,480
you for that. Yeah.

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01:06:10,519 --> 01:06:14,599
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that's why I love when when questions are asked,

1214
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:16,920
you know, at the end of the show, because you're

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01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,119
getting different people's perspectives and different things that they're knowledgeable

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01:06:21,159 --> 01:06:24,199
in that you know, it just gives you a whole

1217
01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:29,159
different avenue. Right, Troy wants to know, is the picture

1218
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:33,559
with his hand a six toed creature figure?

1219
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not sure. I mean, that's Bagna Moss.

1220
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,559
It's very hard to tell. Like you can see, yeah,

1221
01:06:41,679 --> 01:06:44,159
you can see where I guess it would look like

1222
01:06:44,199 --> 01:06:50,039
a six toad figure, but puts Bagnum moss. Maybe there's

1223
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:51,519
a stick there that ripped it out a little bit

1224
01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:54,360
more when he stepped on. There's really no way to

1225
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,880
kind of tell unless you saw the individual or stepped

1226
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,519
in mud and gave you a little bit better of

1227
01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:02,920
an impress and we're able to see that, right, I'm

1228
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,199
gonna say no, just because I've never had a six

1229
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:09,719
toed track, it would be absolutely incredible to know an.

1230
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:13,239
Speaker 3: Individual that does have six toes.

1231
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 4: I'm just not gonna say for sure that that is

1232
01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:16,880
or that isn't. I think it's probably not.

1233
01:07:17,719 --> 01:07:21,639
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll leave it at that. Let me

1234
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:26,880
get back here. I don't know if this is a

1235
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,840
question for you or just a question comment.

1236
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 3: Did you know possums have what looks like an opposable thumb?

1237
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: They're crazy? I love possums. My buddy's got it. I

1238
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,400
probably shouldn't say that. I don't know whatever state it's legal,

1239
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,519
whatever state is legal to have a possum as a pet,

1240
01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:47,679
and my buddy has one. It.

1241
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 3: I think the longer we talk, the more in trouble

1242
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:50,360
we get.

1243
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny.

1244
01:07:56,199 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 3: Let me just make sure there's not any more follow

1245
01:07:58,079 --> 01:07:59,159
up questions that I missed.

1246
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:06,239
Speaker 2: Let's see, is there anyway where do we go to

1247
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,239
see radium livestream?

1248
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,159
Speaker 4: So there is an app. I'm pretty sure it's called

1249
01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:16,960
Discovering Bigfoot. If not, you can go on the Discovering

1250
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,399
Bigfoot fan page and we do post some stuff up

1251
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,359
there every once in a while. Or logan does that

1252
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:27,119
has links to that live stream where you can just

1253
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:30,960
go on I think the website to download the app,

1254
01:08:31,079 --> 01:08:33,640
or you can just look it up on on iOS

1255
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,359
or or Google Google Play.

1256
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Well, I've enjoyed having you. You're

1257
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:45,319
always welcome back.

1258
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:47,119
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

1259
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just we get we get each other in trouble.

1260
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,399
I don't want to cancel you and you don't want

1261
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,039
to cancel me, and uh so we got to quit

1262
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:56,880
while we're ahead.

1263
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 4: It's also getting pretty late for everybody out there, so yeah.

1264
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 3: It's eleven fifteen here, so yep. So but do do reach.

1265
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: Back out to me because you have some phenomenal stuff

1266
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,960
I know just from being up there in radium and

1267
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,560
even around your your area that we can share.

1268
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,399
Speaker 4: Absolutely anytime you got an opening, let me know, be

1269
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,079
happy to come back. Well, pe will have some more

1270
01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:27,199
questions too.

1271
01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they.

1272
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,279
Speaker 2: Are so amazing at asking questions and they ask these

1273
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:34,600
really great questions.

1274
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: So I always love this portion. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1275
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1276
01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:42,399
Speaker 4: When Todd Todd does his Limes live streams and we'll

1277
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:45,920
get a lot of pictures and uh well not pictures,

1278
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,319
we'll get a lot of people who come on and

1279
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:50,279
ask really good questions. I'm like, I've known Todd for

1280
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:52,760
years and I've never even thought to ask him that question,

1281
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,560
Like I've he slept on my couch. I've never you

1282
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:56,760
never thought to ask him.

1283
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,359
Speaker 3: That, you know, and then it makes you feel like

1284
01:09:59,399 --> 01:10:01,399
an idiot. You're like, damn, I don't think of.

1285
01:10:01,359 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 4: That, right, Why do I not know that?

1286
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1287
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure you have tons more stuff that we

1288
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,640
can talk about. So yeah, reach back out to me.

1289
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,399
You have my email address, I am. I am very

1290
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,239
responsive to emails, phone calls, types, all that good stuff.

1291
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,239
Speaker 3: So and we will have you back on.

1292
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,520
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Yeah, And just for everybody out there.

1293
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,399
Speaker 3: Oh yes, please do promote it. I'm sorry.

1294
01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: I there's I don't want to put it out too

1295
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,000
much because I'm not one hundred percent sure on like

1296
01:10:37,039 --> 01:10:38,600
the dates and what it's going to come out to

1297
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,640
entitle stuff like that. There is a documentary or I

1298
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,760
guess a six part series with me in it from

1299
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,119
New York, so that should be coming out this year,

1300
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:51,319
which is huge. I also am planning to go back

1301
01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:55,119
to Radium this year, specifically mid September, and I do

1302
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:58,439
have somebody in mind that I plan on inviting. Hopefully

1303
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,720
he can make it. I think it'd be very, very

1304
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,399
big to have him out there and be a part

1305
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:09,159
of discovering Bigfoot and we'll just kind of see how

1306
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:11,119
it works, and if if that doesn't work, I'll just

1307
01:11:11,159 --> 01:11:13,199
have Brian come back out, I'm sure.

1308
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,119
Speaker 3: And be like, hey, Brian, oh yeah, it's trip.

1309
01:11:21,119 --> 01:11:23,399
Speaker 4: Hey buddy, got it. Got an idea for you? What

1310
01:11:23,399 --> 01:11:24,239
do you do in September?

1311
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,399
Speaker 3: That's funny. Well, is there anything you have coming up

1312
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:30,079
other than that?

1313
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:33,079
Speaker 2: Any any links that that we can talk about that

1314
01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:35,119
people can go to to find you.

1315
01:11:36,319 --> 01:11:39,359
Speaker 4: I don't have anything quite yet. You can look me

1316
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:45,640
up on Instagram Discovering Bigfoot podcast, and I am on YouTube.

1317
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,760
You can look that up to that is under Sylvanic Bigfoot,

1318
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,319
under his channel, under todch channel. So all my shows

1319
01:11:52,319 --> 01:11:56,199
are on that and like I said that that should

1320
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,319
that new series should be coming out the end of

1321
01:11:58,359 --> 01:12:03,079
the year. Also been on Cowboy TV Cowboy channel. That

1322
01:12:03,279 --> 01:12:07,359
was the other episodes I think that I was on.

1323
01:12:08,119 --> 01:12:11,800
So yeah, and then of course all the other podcasts

1324
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,359
that are out there. I've been on Sasquatch Odyssey, I've

1325
01:12:14,359 --> 01:12:20,880
been on The big Foot Report, now ky X Files Man,

1326
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:25,279
I've been on Cam's show Scrypted. I've been on all

1327
01:12:25,359 --> 01:12:26,920
of them. So if you want to hear any more stories,

1328
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,439
there's a bunch of them out there.

1329
01:12:28,279 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 2: So well, well, we appreciate yeah, when we appreciate you

1330
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,800
reaching out and saying, hey, I've never.

1331
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,319
Speaker 3: Been on your show, can be on your show, because I.

1332
01:12:36,319 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 4: Must say yes, yeah, absolutely. I love going on new shows.

1333
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,079
I love meeting new people. Everybody that I've ever met

1334
01:12:42,079 --> 01:12:46,600
in the Sasquatch community has been super amazing people. I

1335
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,720
try to keep in contact with everybody that I can.

1336
01:12:49,159 --> 01:12:51,880
I'm not good at sometimes, but you know, life happens,

1337
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,199
so life happens.

1338
01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:56,039
Speaker 3: It's okay. Well, if you want to, you can email

1339
01:12:56,079 --> 01:12:58,279
me those links and I will send them to Wangne.

1340
01:12:58,279 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: When this goes to podcast, we will include those links

1341
01:13:02,039 --> 01:13:03,079
within the show notes.

1342
01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 4: All right, sounds good. I appreciate it, all right.

1343
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,399
Speaker 3: Of course, thank you again, Kyle. You have a good

1344
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,199
rest of your night, you.

1345
01:13:10,199 --> 01:13:15,199
Speaker 1: Too, all right, bye, Hey, everybody, thank you so much

1346
01:13:15,359 --> 01:13:18,880
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1347
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,319
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01:13:22,359 --> 01:13:26,600
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1365
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 5: Through the woods, the pine trees sway, shadows long at

1366
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:43,319
end of day, Bigfoots call on the whispering breeze. Secrets

1367
01:14:43,399 --> 01:14:53,520
kept by an shoot trees, dog man house bring echoes

1368
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,720
in the silent two.

1369
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 4: Tracks.

1370
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 5: We fine, but answers none. A hunt the truth, that's

1371
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:20,439
just the gun. We're searching past the fire light. Four

1372
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:29,479
creatures hidden our sight in the forest, hardware, shadows lay seeking,

1373
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:39,359
see chrits in the twilight, great through the fog, A

1374
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:48,800
shape did glye skin walker eyes so wide, Legends of Oh,

1375
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:54,479
we chase to night in the dark, our lanterns bright

1376
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:04,960
by the creek or water spill whispers ry, the winds chill,

1377
01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:12,079
full of steep man tails on top in this land,

1378
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:26,560
the myths of over. We're searching past the fire light

1379
01:16:29,399 --> 01:16:34,840
full creature's hidden, out of sight in the forest hard

1380
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:41,479
where shadows lay, seeking seacrits in the twilight break