Speaker 1: Uh uh, what's happening? Everybody? Welcome to Rose Pricks. We're
Speaker 1: talking Golden Batch.
Speaker 2: Hey, Cecily, Hey, Hey, let's bat We're going to batch
Speaker 2: the ship out of this batch. We're going to Golden Batch.
Speaker 2: What if I thought that, like we would get more hits.
Speaker 2: It's like it's you know, at SEO and so if
Speaker 2: you're just like Golden Batch Mel Mel Mel, let's meld
Speaker 2: the mell out of the fucking mel Golden Batchler, do
Speaker 2: you I.
Speaker 1: Want to start by asking if you have any macro notes,
Speaker 1: because I do, I have met you.
Speaker 2: Start, I definitely have macrod Are you kidding? First off,
Speaker 2: I just want to say a spoiler. I guess you're
Speaker 2: you've already watched it. If you're listening to this spoiler,
Speaker 2: My top two picks are the top two picks. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's no prize what they're getting.
Speaker 1: Let's not even say who they are though until the
Speaker 1: end of case. People don't watch the show and they're
Speaker 1: just listening for our commentary. Let him be surprised. I
Speaker 1: was surprised. I was very surprised. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: was absolutely shocked.
Speaker 2: And in fact, throughout our notes, I will say who
Speaker 2: I'm Sure is going home.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, so what's your Oh my gosh. I
Speaker 1: am just appalled at the mel casting, even more than
Speaker 1: I was at the beginning. And I you know, I
Speaker 1: was real mad when that podcast podcast came out. I was,
Speaker 1: as you know, behind the scenes, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. I don't want to cover
Speaker 1: this guy. Fuck this guy. He's so awful. I can't
Speaker 1: believe he made those comments. That's a true those are
Speaker 1: his true feelings, because he was just like sure and
Speaker 1: his feelings absolutely. But you know, but then I was like,
Speaker 1: you talked me into it. You were like, okay, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's a service to people. We're a service.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but it's we're not in this for the money.
Speaker 1: We're in this to be givers or other We're all
Speaker 1: the only thing we care about is people's entertainment. And
Speaker 1: who are we? Who are we to like dim our
Speaker 1: light to help other people? You know? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Or are we one hundred percent? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I agree, I'm with you. I think I want That's
Speaker 1: a Gandhi quote. I'm not sure who said it. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. What matters is that we're living by this
Speaker 1: kind of higher consciousness, which.
Speaker 2: Is I think you're talking about Taoism if I'm honest, Now,
Speaker 2: why would I say if I'm honest, if I'm not lying,
Speaker 2: I think you're talking about Daoism, which a lot of
Speaker 2: people think is Taoism.
Speaker 1: That is incorrect, right, Taoism.
Speaker 2: And if you want to like kind of a dummies
Speaker 2: version of getting into it, the dow of who is
Speaker 2: really good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pooh and his Taoist movements own that book.
Speaker 2: It's a great book. And the Day the Day of Picklet,
Speaker 2: which I can't find. I lost that. Oh that's that's
Speaker 2: that's a different I know. I don't I don't haven't
Speaker 2: moved in a really long time, so I don't know
Speaker 2: where that went. But that's not what the story is
Speaker 2: about today. Have you ever thrown by the way Iiching?
Speaker 2: Do you have the book of Iiching where you throw coins?
Speaker 1: I do. I take love that and I used to,
Speaker 1: especially when I was younger and suffering had more angst.
Speaker 1: I used to throw the coins all the time to
Speaker 1: like figure out if a guy was going to call
Speaker 1: it always has to do with men.
Speaker 2: Stephanie, I will do that. I wrote about this and
Speaker 2: I'm not joking. I'm sure you did too, but I
Speaker 2: one hundred percent use There's a thing online. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to say which one because I don't want to
Speaker 2: give that away. I want to give that to the universe.
Speaker 2: But there is a virtual magic eight ball that I
Speaker 2: use every time before I text a guy at now.
Speaker 1: As this age, and I am not getting a.
Speaker 2: Guy that I like, like a guy that I crush
Speaker 2: on or something, you know, like if I'm interested, not
Speaker 2: just any guy, right ship.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I swear to God, I swear.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, and I follow it and it's it's correct.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, that's that's easier though. The eye ching is
Speaker 1: like it's very involved, like you have to you take
Speaker 1: three coins, you throw them, you mark down the pattern
Speaker 1: of how many heads and how many tails, and you
Speaker 1: do it like ten times, and then you go through
Speaker 1: and find the pattern and then that tells you that
Speaker 1: then there's like a reading's not wrong, No, it's not
Speaker 1: not wrong. There was an online version of it that
Speaker 1: I used to use as well, back in my okay
Speaker 1: Cupid days that was connected to okay Cupid. And now
Speaker 1: I'm not on that, you know, now, bumble brings me
Speaker 1: to the magic gay ball. It doesn't.
Speaker 2: No, guys, this is more interested interesting than anything Mel's
Speaker 2: going to tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay. So I'm just going to go back
Speaker 1: to what I was saying, which is that I was
Speaker 1: off of Mel. But then I sort of got used
Speaker 1: to the idea. You know. I was like, well, we're
Speaker 1: doing this, so I'm going to try to embrace it.
Speaker 1: And you know, I stayed open minded. Truthfully. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's handsome on some angles, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: This episode completely turned me around. I was like, however,
Speaker 1: however open I he was just a dick the entire episode.
Speaker 1: He's so aggressively holding Bland, he's withholding. He has zero personality,
Speaker 1: and these beautiful accomplished women are throwing themselves at him
Speaker 1: just they want him so bad. And I was like,
Speaker 1: what is he doing? He doesn't care and he's not
Speaker 1: even He's not even smart enough to pretend a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, not going to bring the game, not
Speaker 1: into it? Like what, no ISZ what are we supposed
Speaker 1: to like about it? What? There's no warmth? There was nothing,
Speaker 1: he emanated nothing, And I was so mad.
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Speaker 2: All right, Oh, let's get into this nonsense. We got
Speaker 2: our hometown, But did you have I thought you might
Speaker 2: have a macro. Well, my macro was just sort of
Speaker 2: a shock, like overall shock. How withholding he was to
Speaker 2: all of them? Yeah, how freakin' bore. I mean, like
Speaker 2: I couldn't how rushed. I guess this is a big macros,
Speaker 2: Just like how rushed the whole thing is. How I
Speaker 2: still had to like check notes when we got to Debbie,
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, it was Debbie and she's in the final.
Speaker 1: Like the fact that this is what the fifth episode.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just madness now, and I kind
Speaker 2: of want to hold this thought until we get to it.
Speaker 1: But I'll just this could be a macro.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like they're all just joking around at
Speaker 2: this point, like the families are not taking this seriously.
Speaker 2: The hometowns went like luckily for us, they went quickly
Speaker 2: because they didn't even bother Like even the hometown people
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, cool, cool, you want to throw this
Speaker 2: football for a while?
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha are you gonna propose? Like nobody was
Speaker 1: really having.
Speaker 2: The bullshit talks, and when they did try to, Mel
Speaker 2: shut them down so quickly that it was like, well
Speaker 2: that's that. Yeah, yeah, it was bizarre. Nobody like, nobody's
Speaker 2: even trying at all. And but yet there were a
Speaker 2: couple of fun moments.
Speaker 1: So let's okay.
Speaker 2: First of all, Mel's feeling great and it's I'm just
Speaker 2: reading a book on the plane and I sort of
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 1: Thought it was the Bible.
Speaker 2: I'm like, is he just fucking thumbing through the Bible
Speaker 2: on a plane to Vegas?
Speaker 1: Dude, I mean he was. It was if you look.
Speaker 2: Clade didn't screenshot it, but I really think it was
Speaker 2: like the New Testament.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. Who knows another thing that I noticed too,
Speaker 1: And this just this is like just one more kind
Speaker 1: of macro. But I'll say it now, just like you did,
Speaker 1: why not let's fill it with macros. Nothing happens on
Speaker 1: this episode, which is kind of actually rare for the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: Like we're going to talk about it and we're going
Speaker 1: to make it fun and keep it lively. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it's rare that they can't find and there
Speaker 1: is no drama whatsoever, no twists, no drama, super straightforward,
Speaker 1: nothing happens. So I noticed that when they do those
Speaker 1: teases at the beginning, you know, those editors have to
Speaker 1: be pulling their hair out. They're just like, yeah, what
Speaker 1: moment are we going to cold open this with? And
Speaker 1: remember last week the cold open was that like birds
Speaker 1: and the Bees thing where she was going like oo
Speaker 1: before getting in that hot tub, and they just didn't
Speaker 1: have and it was like a mislead, but also like
Speaker 1: it didn't even it wasn't even in the actual show
Speaker 1: because they had to kind of edit it to make
Speaker 1: it like funny. They couldn't even find anything they had.
Speaker 1: It was just like one quick scene from one of
Speaker 1: the hometowns. It's like, oh no, what's gonna happen here?
Speaker 1: It was just literally like yeah, how well, do you
Speaker 1: really know? My mom?
Speaker 2: That's why I didn't even write down what the teas
Speaker 2: was because I was like, I never do because I
Speaker 2: always hate the teas. I know, I noticed that there
Speaker 2: was one, but I was proud of myself even seeing
Speaker 2: Mel on the plane. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I'm proud of you too, because I don't have it.
Speaker 1: I just said that. We started to the airport and Mel
Speaker 1: is leaving to visit one of the beautiful, beautiful ladies,
Speaker 1: beautiful Ladies, beautif full hometown. Mel's so excited because the
Speaker 1: last time he went to meet someone's family was twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago. Okay, let's do the math. I'll all
Speaker 1: say that. Let's do the math. Mel's sixty six, So
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago he was forty one. So does
Speaker 1: that mean he literally is so avoidant that he till
Speaker 1: he was forty one he didn't meet someone's parents.
Speaker 2: He was much younger, right, she had kids, right, So
Speaker 2: she had to have been not. I mean, she could
Speaker 2: have been forty, but I doubt they had kids right away. No,
Speaker 2: and they have, like, didn't we look that up to
Speaker 2: two kids?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, she was twenty years younger. But so he
Speaker 1: he did not have a real relationship till he was
Speaker 1: forty one with a much younger woman, and that's the
Speaker 1: first time he met someone's parents. I'm just saying, not
Speaker 1: a good look. Doesn't make me like excited for this,
Speaker 1: not even a little bit. Also, he's just like basically
Speaker 1: not even picking up his feet. He's just shuffling his feet. Like, hey,
Speaker 1: he shows up in Vegas. So Peg is first Peg.
Speaker 2: You know, she's gonna make anybody look kind of like
Speaker 2: the next to her because she's so she's so manic.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say manic, but she's got a
Speaker 2: lot of energy. Yeah, so she's sort of like, look
Speaker 2: at all these guys. I'm banging at the firehouse jk
Speaker 2: is where I work. I thought it'd be really funny.
Speaker 2: I thought it'd be funny. As he looks, he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I never got to sit in the chow chuo machine before,
Speaker 2: Like choo choo machine?
Speaker 1: Do you mean a train that's not a train, that's
Speaker 1: a fire truck. They have to hold up like a
Speaker 1: little toy of a fight.
Speaker 2: They're like, mel, this is a fire He's like, it
Speaker 2: was fun to get to look at the bombs, And
Speaker 2: I thought, wouldn't that be funny if Golden Bachelor producers
Speaker 2: were like, okay, we're Mel difuse a real bomb.
Speaker 1: They're like, you gotta try, you gotta be open, balls down. Oh,
Speaker 1: I just like also kind of like the idea of
Speaker 1: doing this again when Mel's like in his eighties and
Speaker 1: he really is just like Joe Bidening it. He's just
Speaker 1: like my friend corn Oh, my son Hunter went to
Speaker 1: Russia once.
Speaker 2: And they're like, Okay, yeah, that's great, but this is
Speaker 2: these are the firemen, these are my coworkers. And also
Speaker 2: I was in the bomb diffusing squad. Yeah, she is
Speaker 2: pretty bad ass. We forget listen. Peg has been one
Speaker 2: of my favorites from the beginning. You know that I've
Speaker 2: not I do not hold back on my love of Peg.
Speaker 2: I've always loved her. Yeah, not like her at all.
Speaker 2: Tell me why I love her, Like she's such a
Speaker 2: bad ass and she's so cool. Oh, she's sold so
Speaker 2: much better. Yeah, And so he's just sort of like
Speaker 2: these are things you could never do, is sit in
Speaker 2: the fire. I got to see like there's nothing behind
Speaker 2: is like I'm a little worried about him. Actually, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't win. The last time we've done any kind
Speaker 2: of physical check on him. But I have an idea.
Speaker 2: I have an idea for the Bachelor, even though it's
Speaker 2: already filmed. Okay, so it's kind of too late for them.
Speaker 2: This would be such an incredible twist.
Speaker 1: You are welcome. So here's here's how it goes. Mel
Speaker 1: does this whole thing that he's doing where he's so
Speaker 1: lukewarm on every buddy, and then at the end he
Speaker 1: proposes to Peggy and he's like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: I was just decided I fell in love with you
Speaker 1: like the other day, and like, yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: marry you. And Peggy goes, you know what. Now I
Speaker 1: thought about it and absolutely not, Like you really woke
Speaker 1: up myself esteem and like, now, why would I settle
Speaker 1: for somebody who's like you, no, thank you? And then
Speaker 1: she leaves. Oh my god, it would be great. I
Speaker 1: don't think it would happen. Okay, it has happened.
Speaker 2: Not on the Golden It's happened on shows where people
Speaker 2: didn't someone propose and someone said no.
Speaker 1: Has that ever happened. I don't think it's ever happened.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Is it just that someone didn't That would be awesome
Speaker 2: of like, hey, you know, going through all this process
Speaker 2: and like what, you get to date a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I mean, the show is so stupid. I mean it's so.
Speaker 2: Stupid because when you know, it gets me so fired up.
Speaker 2: You're so right about like at least love is blind
Speaker 2: as a lovely premise about like getting to know each other,
Speaker 2: and everybody's dating, not just the guys, right, It's so awful.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just I mean, listen, I know
Speaker 2: we're all coming from that place. Nobody's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna find love like this. No one
Speaker 2: thinks that anymore except me, who's still probably going to
Speaker 2: go on the Golden I just think is the.
Speaker 1: Least prize of anybody that we've ever had. I thought
Speaker 1: an asshole wrote that, Yes, so it just takes away
Speaker 1: from the fact that these women are fighting for his love.
Speaker 1: It's just sad. It makes the whole thing kind of
Speaker 1: It was a downer. It was a total downer.
Speaker 2: So speaking up, so he's very flaw I just kept writing,
Speaker 2: he's not into Peg because we hadn't seen the other
Speaker 2: two yet, so I'm like, oh my god, it's definitely
Speaker 2: not her. He's very flushed, I said, and he needs
Speaker 2: to go to the doctor, like a lot of those
Speaker 2: are signs of like heart issues. So he goes to
Speaker 2: PEG's family, and, like we said earlier, it's pretty determined
Speaker 2: early on that like the daughter's trying, you know, they're
Speaker 2: trying to have real conversations with him, and they're not
Speaker 2: getting They're like literally like, okay, so what do you
Speaker 2: like about my mom?
Speaker 1: Well, she's blonde. He tells this crazy story.
Speaker 2: It's like cho was in this like outfit like cosplay
Speaker 2: or something like role playing, and then she like took
Speaker 2: off the helmet and she's like blonde. That was his story.
Speaker 2: That's what he likes about her. He says, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just really blonde. Yeah, and like really like this is
Speaker 2: this is crazy. So they're pulling teeth when they tell
Speaker 2: They're like, so you like so you like her, you
Speaker 2: like him?
Speaker 1: And he she's not. PEG's not giving much either. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's cool, it's all right. He's a nice guy. Also,
Speaker 1: Peg There's mom is like a super fan of the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: so that also a little awkward because PEG's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this isn't really like The Bachelor exactly, but
Speaker 1: like my mom's real into it. And she's like, I've
Speaker 1: been watching it for twenty years. So then then his daughter, Dakota,
Speaker 1: His daughter, Dakota is very pretty. I really like her.
Speaker 1: Your daughter PEG's daughter, PEG's daughter. Sorry, yeah uh. And
Speaker 1: then her daughter has a boyfriend named Cole, which is
Speaker 1: spelled like the store Coals a h L. Which I
Speaker 1: was like, is his mom just loved shopping like bargain
Speaker 1: hunting at Cole's, Like why why would you name your
Speaker 1: child Cole? And go, oh my god, I'm gonna spell
Speaker 1: it like the store. This is the weirdest trail off.
Speaker 1: But like that, when anytime anyone brings up Coals, I
Speaker 1: always laugh. I was.
Speaker 2: I was there one time with a friend and he
Speaker 2: was They were like, would you like to open a
Speaker 2: Cohle's card account or whatever? And my friend's like okay,
Speaker 2: And then I said, so he's opening the account and
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even kidding.
Speaker 2: I go get it in like uh orange, get the
Speaker 2: color and he goes, yeah, I'm sure that Coles has
Speaker 2: like a choose your own color of the car. Like
Speaker 2: it just made me laugh that, like we had this
Speaker 2: whole conversation about Cole's. He's like yeah, I'm sure Coles
Speaker 2: lets me choose the color of the credit card they
Speaker 2: give me. It's just like the dumbest thing for me
Speaker 2: to say, too, Like why did I say that? Right, right, right,
Speaker 2: anyway when I've never actually been to Coles so that
Speaker 2: oh I have, but all.
Speaker 1: That time, but when when Mel is telling this, this
Speaker 1: whole story about her being blonde, he goes, uh, he did.
Speaker 1: I want to know if you picked up on this? So,
Speaker 1: because Dakota goes, so, what was your first impression of her?
Speaker 1: Like what did she do when she got out of
Speaker 1: the limo? And Mel goes, uh, Dakota. He's like, well, Dakota,
Speaker 1: you have no idea, Dakota, why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Are you selling her a car? It was so weird.
Speaker 1: He's so sad. It's sad.
Speaker 2: Want guess And he kept giving one word answers. She'd
Speaker 2: be like, uh, huh, anything else, And then he said
Speaker 2: he goes one thing. She's like, what are some descriptive
Speaker 2: things you can say about my mom peg who was
Speaker 2: a bomb diffuser? And he was like, well, she's alive.
Speaker 1: You said that. Yeah. She goes she's like, what do
Speaker 1: you like about my mom? And he goes well this
Speaker 1: is I wrote this down word for he goes, well,
Speaker 1: her spirit, and Dakota goes, okay, what about her spirit?
Speaker 1: You know her? And he goes her energy and she goes,
Speaker 1: but what what about her energy? And he goes, she's alive?
Speaker 1: And then he's just dead air unless the editors were
Speaker 1: doing him dirty, but I don't think. So he's just
Speaker 1: sitting there.
Speaker 2: And then she's nice, like she's kind of like her mom,
Speaker 2: a little bit of a pleaser, the daughter. So she's like,
Speaker 2: I like that you like that he likes that your
Speaker 2: mom's alive.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think she just knew what to
Speaker 1: say to him, Like I think she was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I just I don't And then so then she goes, well,
Speaker 1: are you in love with my mom? And have you
Speaker 1: told her? And he's like no. He goes yeah he does, no, no, nope,
Speaker 1: and also don't know if I can even if I
Speaker 1: can get there, And Dakota goes She's like.
Speaker 2: Well why actually yeah, She's like, you have one week
Speaker 2: to propose, like what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this side to the camera, she's like, I'm asking
Speaker 1: Mels some hard questions and his answers are not putting
Speaker 1: me at ease. No, and then oh, and then she
Speaker 1: says to him, she goes, well, at the end of this,
Speaker 1: if you're like, are you like, are you gonna just
Speaker 1: say I want to date you? And he goes, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like.
Speaker 2: What, he's not well, he's not okay, Like I'm not
Speaker 2: even joking. I kind of feel bad even mocking him,
Speaker 2: even though I hate how much he made fun of
Speaker 2: older women. I feel bad for him. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's okay. I think he's really being propped up on
Speaker 2: like meds. I'm not even kid. I don't think he's
Speaker 2: getting enough air to his brain. Something's wrong with mel
Speaker 2: And that's just a fact. It makes me miss Gary.
Speaker 2: And it was just it was so I actually made
Speaker 2: a note because we didn't we hadn't gotten to the
Speaker 2: other women yet. I made a note here, just just
Speaker 2: like why not the editors just cut this like he's
Speaker 2: being so vague.
Speaker 1: This is just ridiculous. I think this is a problem.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm really predictive. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: The daughter was just saying like I'm so protective, but
Speaker 2: she's just wasting her breath, Like you don't need to
Speaker 2: go into the bachelor's speak, we get it.
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I think. I truly think that
Speaker 1: they just didn't have enough. There was just wasn't enough,
Speaker 1: you know. Okay, So then there was a commercial and
Speaker 1: I saw an ad for Gray's Anatomy, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that show is still on the air. Is that true?
Speaker 1: I guess I never really watched great. I was an
Speaker 1: er person. Not that you couldn't watch both, right enough,
Speaker 1: ILL like that, right, I feel like I was in
Speaker 1: my twenties when Gray's Anatomy was on Simpsons or SNL.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems so docated. I just can't imagine
Speaker 1: like that still being a thing. But okay, so you
Speaker 1: know what we should do.
Speaker 2: We should start from the beginning Gray's Anatomy and cover that.
Speaker 2: People're like, I can't go back to that. It was
Speaker 2: literally thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: So so then Mel training and mixed Steamy. So Mel
Speaker 1: is like is starts getting and I'm not kidding this
Speaker 1: is I'm not being hyperballic, you know, I'm not. He
Speaker 1: starts getting like a little bit aggressive with Dakota.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Stephanie, I wrote, I are they fighting?
Speaker 2: That's literally I saw the same thing. He was being
Speaker 2: like he doesn't. He can't hide his he couldn't mask
Speaker 2: his dickiness anymore.
Speaker 1: No, no, So Dakota's like, but okay, Mel goes, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think I have to be in love right
Speaker 1: this second mean kind of mean, and Dakota goes, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but at the goal at the end of this Now,
Speaker 1: remember this is a Bachelor watching family. The mom, Peggy's
Speaker 1: mom loves the Bachelor's She's been watching for twenty years,
Speaker 1: so obviously Peggy's watched it and the daughter's watched it.
Speaker 1: Dakota is like, am I in a different universe right now?
Speaker 1: So Dakota's just trying to get some reality going and
Speaker 1: She's like okay, yeah, but the goal at the end
Speaker 1: is to get down on Wendy and propose. And then
Speaker 1: he just argues back, He's like, no, no, I know.
Speaker 1: He goes, no, the goal is just to find somebody.
Speaker 1: So and then she goes, well, Dakota says, well, are
Speaker 1: you actually looking for somebody? Like do you even want
Speaker 1: a lifelong partner to build a life with? And he goes, huh,
Speaker 1: I was married for twenty years. I liked it. What,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what is happening? And I do not happen.
Speaker 1: He's just not having it.
Speaker 2: There's nothing to do that, there's nothing they can there's
Speaker 2: nothing to work with.
Speaker 1: So agree.
Speaker 2: But I I were the producers, I would talk to
Speaker 2: the women and be like, do you like the meles
Speaker 2: being so cold and vague? Maybe you should push back.
Speaker 2: That's what I would really lean on the women. But
Speaker 2: the ones he's chosen are not going to be the
Speaker 2: one like, it's too bad we don't have Nicole. Somebody
Speaker 2: even that we didn't like her. She was terrible, but
Speaker 2: she would have been good TV here.
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent agree the villain should have made
Speaker 1: it further Listen. I don't think that the editors are
Speaker 1: doing him dirty. I think the editors have nothing to
Speaker 1: work with. I think they're probably unhappy, and I think
Speaker 1: this is this is why there are those leaks which
Speaker 1: we've talked about on our on our Patreon where they're
Speaker 1: saying that the Disney or whatever is like really upset
Speaker 1: that he's the lead, and they it's the worst ratings ever.
Speaker 1: It's like, well you can see why, of course, of course,
Speaker 1: and they had a chance to pull it.
Speaker 2: I don't think they had been filming yet when that
Speaker 2: podcast came out I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't even how they could have thought he was
Speaker 1: going to be good. Yeah, And I don't know why
Speaker 1: they couldn't.
Speaker 2: It could have been the most interesting thing ever if
Speaker 2: they'd been like, you know, we don't think he's ready
Speaker 2: or right for this particular show, so we're going to
Speaker 2: back to the drive. I mean, like, why push that
Speaker 2: through when everyone was so mad? So then you already
Speaker 2: knew you were going to lose viewers.
Speaker 1: It just makes sense, right, He had to have so
Speaker 1: much personality to push past the idea that he already
Speaker 1: practically got himself canceled for a good reason, not just
Speaker 1: cancel culture, but because he was actually saying like really
Speaker 1: shitty things about women on a show where he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be dating. So rather than stop it, I guess
Speaker 1: you guys were like, I'm talking to I'm mad at
Speaker 1: the producers right now. I guess you guys were like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you don't understand this guy is so personality plus that
Speaker 1: we're taking the risk he's going to kill it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not acting, he's not even giving the energy that
Speaker 1: he gave on the podcast episode. He's so subdued and
Speaker 1: tamped down that. It's like, what is he mad? Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't say anything like you have ohyah, there's that.
Speaker 2: And also he's clearly not attracted. He said it, I
Speaker 2: don't want older? Why I want younger? So all he's
Speaker 2: envisioning he now thinks he's going to be so famous
Speaker 2: they're going to slide.
Speaker 1: Into his dms. But can you imagine how old is he? Sixty?
Speaker 2: Said right, I'm not just in one in their mid forties, Like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I want to.
Speaker 1: Get with that.
Speaker 2: I got to get boned by that man. Who's gonna
Speaker 2: want that? Who does he think?
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a quick little prediction right now
Speaker 1: because and I guess this is also a little bit
Speaker 1: of a macro. But maybe this whole show is just
Speaker 1: like going to be kind of MACROI but look when
Speaker 1: he was on the date with Cindy, and this is,
Speaker 1: you know, just skipping ahead a tiny bit. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at her and I'm looking at her daughters, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: there is no way that he's not kind of more
Speaker 1: attractive to the daughters. And the problem with yeah, and yes,
Speaker 1: I think he sees these women, even though he keeps
Speaker 1: trying to claim otherwise. He sees them as not being
Speaker 1: datable to him. He sees them as being like grandma types,
Speaker 1: because that's how he sees himself. He has this idea
Speaker 1: of himself, this narcissistic idea of like I was a
Speaker 1: football player, I could get any woman I wanted. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not going to settle for like I'm hot. I
Speaker 1: think he thinks he's hot. I think he has some
Speaker 1: delusion that he has like a great body, and I
Speaker 1: think he genuinely thinks like I could easily get a
Speaker 1: woman who's like forty two. So I think that he's not.
Speaker 1: I don't think he wants any of these women, and
Speaker 1: that makes it a little bit hard to slog through.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, correct, all of that is true, all of
Speaker 2: every single thing you said.
Speaker 1: And I had that thought and is like, why are
Speaker 1: we all? But we I got some more jokes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, now before we get to yeah, where are
Speaker 2: we on time?
Speaker 1: Where we are? We are only twenty seven minutes in,
Speaker 1: so we got to go, but we got to keep going.
Speaker 1: But hold on, so before we're not done totally done
Speaker 1: with Dakota. So Dakota says, okay, listen. Oh so so
Speaker 1: then she says, after he says, yeah, I was married
Speaker 1: for twenty years. You know. I like that Dakota is
Speaker 1: still trying. First of all, Dakota is the hero that
Speaker 1: we all need. I felt a little bit in love
Speaker 1: with Dakota. I want to be friends with her. I
Speaker 1: thought she was a fresh family voice. She wasn't like
Speaker 1: a bitch. She was just trying to hold his feet
Speaker 1: to the fire a little bit. She was trying to
Speaker 1: get something from him. You know what. I recommend for
Speaker 1: Dakota to be a producer on the show. So she
Speaker 1: just keeps going. She goes, well, how can you assure
Speaker 1: me that my mom's going to be protected? And he goes,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll do my best. So she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: but if she's not the one, please don't drag her
Speaker 1: through this process. Let her go. And then Dakota rightfully
Speaker 1: so says to the camera like, you know, I think
Speaker 1: my mom is more sure of his feelings like than
Speaker 1: he is. Like this man is not sure at all.
Speaker 1: So then Dakota try to talk to her mom. She's trying,
Speaker 1: and she's like, listen, I just worry, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want you to let your guard down, and like get her,
Speaker 1: you know, and she's like, well, nothing risk, nothing gained.
Speaker 1: That's what I always said about defusing a bomb. Just
Speaker 1: not always sure that the wires are gonna like match,
Speaker 1: but like, who knows, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Like there could have been a moment where mel turned
Speaker 2: to the camera and was like, listen, I know I'm
Speaker 2: being very vague and I'm not giving a lot, but
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 2: lead somebody. I do have feelings and I do know
Speaker 2: who it is or I'm down to the final two,
Speaker 2: but I just don't want you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to give it away because I just, you know, like
Speaker 2: I want to keep exploring to the very end, like
Speaker 2: anything that showed compassion or like lust or anything, there's nothing.
Speaker 2: And I had the same thought, that's so funny when
Speaker 2: he was talking to Cindy's hot daughters, Hot Texas daughters.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, Yeah, he's like one hundred percent more into them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably more into one of the Cody the
Speaker 1: soon to be brother in law son in law.
Speaker 2: Yes, like he's probably like, well, you know, that might
Speaker 2: be more interesting than this old hag who knows no.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I just yeah, it's awful. So before
Speaker 1: the end of this date and this is becoming almost
Speaker 1: SNL sketch worthy. The bench talk. It's like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: do they just have a bench and they just put
Speaker 1: it on a truck and they just bring it from
Speaker 1: location to location? They just it because nobody has benches
Speaker 1: on their front lawn. But at every single place they
Speaker 1: just put a bench there and they go, Okay, sit
Speaker 1: on the bench. Like why do they have to have
Speaker 1: the talk there? You know, it would be like so
Speaker 1: much more believable, like have them like just sit on
Speaker 1: the front porch, sit on some steps, go sit on
Speaker 1: the wall anywhere that, go sit in the car. It's different,
Speaker 1: something different to that location like they have.
Speaker 2: It's like they didn't have any money to pay for locations,
Speaker 2: to pay for anything. Like they didn't because you know,
Speaker 2: you have to like get stuff approved. So they're yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a bench they bring around.
Speaker 1: Remember back in the day when they used to travel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's oh my god. Well it was like ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm the Bachelor, not.
Speaker 2: On Golden No, never on that, but they did on
Speaker 2: the Last Bachelor. They did it on thee they traveled.
Speaker 2: I don't remember where they went because it's all one
Speaker 2: big just nightmare of a trauma.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trauma. So they have bench talk and I wrote,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest because that's how we what
Speaker 1: we talk. So I even talked that way in my notes.
Speaker 1: I said, he doesn't seem into her. I don't think
Speaker 1: she's I don't think she's for him, and then I wrote, sorry,
Speaker 1: peg a big Dakota fan. Though I just wrote why
Speaker 1: fake all this? Bye bye? So that was that? All right?
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