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Of course, to Get 16 00:00:52,759 --> 00:00:55,960 Off My Pilon we focus on western college football in 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,600 the United States, and so as we get into late November, 18 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:03,759 the final few weekends of the regular season before conference 19 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:08,480 Championship Saturday, what a turn of events in the Big Twelve, 20 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:10,480 and of course a lot of this has been happening 21 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:12,959 over the course of the full season. You know, we've 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,000 been talking about BYU, We've been talking about Colorado and 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,719 Coach Prime, and of course they're still right in the 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,359 thick of the race for the Big Twelve title and 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,799 a spot in the College Football Playoff. But now the 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,599 new card in the deck Arizona State. Arizona State doesn't 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,680 just beat Kansas State in Manhattan on the road at night, 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,400 but it was a convincing win. Final score twenty four 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,519 to fourteen doesn't really reflect the extent to which Arizona 30 00:01:40,519 --> 00:01:45,920 State controlled that game. Arizona State got up big early 31 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:49,640 and Kansas State came back with a few touchdowns to 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,480 make the score cosmetically close. But this was ASU's game 33 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:56,840 start to finish. And so the Sun Devils, you know, 34 00:01:56,879 --> 00:01:59,879 they're not just a really good running team. They can 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,719 throw the ball, they can play defense. You know, it's 36 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,239 true that in some of Arizona State's wins the Sun 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Devils have had to scramble from behind. Did so against 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,439 Kansas did so against UCF. You know, those were games 39 00:02:14,479 --> 00:02:17,080 in which Arizona State was out played for a good 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:22,080 portion but managed to scramble in the fourth quarter, much 41 00:02:22,159 --> 00:02:25,120 as BYU has. We're going to obviously talk about that 42 00:02:25,159 --> 00:02:28,759 in a little bit, but Arizona State had been coming 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,800 from behind a number of times. But in this game 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,599 against Kansas State, and to kind of frame this in 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,800 the context of the Big Twelve, Kansas State entered the 46 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:39,960 night as the one Big Twelve team where you could 47 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,919 you could reasonably say, all right, maybe not in a 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,599 brilliant season, but Kansas State pretty much played to expectations 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,319 this year. Kansas State was the one team in the 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,680 preseason top five of the Big twelve pole that you 51 00:02:54,719 --> 00:02:59,080 generally lived up to the billing. The other four top teams, 52 00:02:59,199 --> 00:03:06,560 you know, Utah, Oklahoma State, Kansas Arizona you know, all 53 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:11,159 massive disappointments. So Kansas State's the one Big twelve team 54 00:03:11,479 --> 00:03:14,879 that was expected to be fairly good and more or 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,199 less lived up to expectations. But really, after this game, 56 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:20,879 we have to say, like none of the top five 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,800 lived up to expectations. For Kansas State to lose this 58 00:03:23,879 --> 00:03:27,639 game to Arizona State and it essentially be out of 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,919 the conference title race with two games left in the season, 60 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,520 that's a definite disappointment. If Kansas State had finished the 61 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:40,719 season ten and two, but BYU and Colorado beat out 62 00:03:40,759 --> 00:03:44,479 the Wildcats just because they were so good. And let's 63 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:47,319 remember Colorado. One of Colorado's losses was not a Big 64 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,560 twelve loss. It was to Nebraska, so Colorad with only 65 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:53,919 one Big twelve loss. So Kansas State beat Colorado in 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,159 Boulder head to head, but Colorado had the inside track 67 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,919 because Coloradle lost just one Big twelve game. If it 68 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,039 worked out that Colorado beat out a ten and two 69 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,560 Kansas State team. If you're Kansas State, under that scenario, 70 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,000 you just tip the cap, say hey, you know, we 71 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,560 will beat Colorado head to head and Boulder. But the 72 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:17,079 Buffs lost just one Big twelve game. They beat us 73 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:18,959 out in the race to the Big twelve title game. 74 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,759 You just credit the better team, the team that you 75 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:26,399 had the better season, if you're Kansas State. But now 76 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:32,240 the Kansas State has lost this third game that you 77 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,879 know that should rate as a disappointment. And you know, 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,399 the way the way that Kansas State was dominated by 79 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,040 Arizona State, that has to really sting for the Wildcats. 80 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,319 And and I mentioned it just because you know, we 81 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:48,399 don't follow Midwestern teams on this show, but just within 82 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,160 the context of the Big Twelve, I think we can 83 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:54,160 say each of now each of the top five. Kansas 84 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:57,839 State obviously not at a level of those other schools Utah, Arizona, 85 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:04,800 Oklahoma State, and Kansas but Kansas State did fall significantly 86 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:08,759 short of expectations. If Kansas State finished ten to two, 87 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,279 I think that would be a fine season, not a 88 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,839 great season, but a fine season. But really, with this 89 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,040 third loss, each of the teams picked in the top 90 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:19,879 five of the Big Twelve before the season, they all 91 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,199 fell well short of expectations. And I just bring that 92 00:05:23,319 --> 00:05:26,839 up because in the Big Twelve it's basically been upside down. 93 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:29,680 Teams that were predicted to be at the bottom have 94 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,439 risen to the very top, teams predicted to be at 95 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:35,560 the top. All right, Kansas State didn't fall to the bottom, 96 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,759 but you know, it's in the kind of the second tier. 97 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:43,040 It's certainly out of the title chase. But you know, 98 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,800 so Arizona State, BYU Colorado, also Iowa State, teams not 99 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,240 expected to be at the top, they rise at Teams 100 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,199 expected to be at the top fell, you know, to 101 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,959 varying degrees, and it's it's been absolutely remarkable. It's hard 102 00:05:59,959 --> 00:06:06,199 to think of another conference so completely upending the expected order. 103 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,519 You know, in the acc sm us A definite surprise. 104 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:13,079 But you know a lot of people did think Miami 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,079 could do well because the Hurricanes had a very favorable schedule. 106 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,399 That's what's happened, So that's not too much of a shock. 107 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,319 The Big Twelve, it's been seismic the extent to which 108 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,600 expectations and results have completely flipped. You know, what was 109 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:34,120 expected to happen before the season, basically nothing came to pass, 110 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:38,360 and it's been the projected underclass that has become the 111 00:06:38,439 --> 00:06:41,800 ruling class in the Big Twelve. So that brings us 112 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,040 to this remarkable Big Twelve title chase. You know, we 113 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,759 expected to have an Arizona team in the Hunt, but 114 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,360 it's Arizona State, not Arizona, complete flipping of expectations. We 115 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:56,040 expected to have a Utah based team in the Hunt, 116 00:06:56,199 --> 00:06:59,839 but it's BYU not Utah, completely flipping the script there 117 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:04,360 as well. And then of course Colorado and Coach Prime 118 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,160 the Buffs, you know they are, they are oh so close, 119 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:12,120 and they have to face the Kansas team that just 120 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,399 went into provo and ruined BYU's unbeaten season, and that 121 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:18,600 leads us to the situation that we have in the 122 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,279 Big Twelve right now, where b Yu versus Arizona State. 123 00:07:22,839 --> 00:07:24,920 You know, when you look at the slate for college 124 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:28,000 football on Saturday, November twenty third, the number one game 125 00:07:28,079 --> 00:07:31,199 is that Indiana Ohio State game. And we will talk 126 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,680 about Oregon and the Big Ten a little bit. In 127 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,439 our survey of western college football, that's the number one 128 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,759 game on the board, the number two game in college football, 129 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:42,920 the second most important game relative to the playoff, you know, 130 00:07:43,079 --> 00:07:45,360 and in terms of like there's actually drama in terms 131 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:47,519 of who's going to win and how it's how it's 132 00:07:47,519 --> 00:07:50,839 going to affect everything. The second biggest game of November 133 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:55,399 twenty third is BYU Arizona State. And then find me 134 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,040 one person who even forget about before this season and 135 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,720 in late August finding me a person who won month 136 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:06,720 ago was saying, Hey, that by UASU game could define 137 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,319 the whole season, it could define the playoff, it could 138 00:08:09,319 --> 00:08:12,759 decide the Big twelve champion. That's where we are. That's 139 00:08:12,759 --> 00:08:15,399 definitely where we are. You know. The the winner of 140 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:21,879 BYU Arizona State probably goes up against Colorado. Now, if 141 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,879 Colorad loses to Kansas, there's going to be a you know, 142 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,720 a different set of scenarios. But if Colorado does beat Kansas. 143 00:08:29,079 --> 00:08:31,720 Then we're looking at Colorado versus the winner of this 144 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,639 Arizona State BYU game. It's it's just remarkable how centrally 145 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,759 important an as U b YU Week thirteen game has 146 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:46,919 become in college football. And I tweeted this out late 147 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Saturday night on Twitter at Matt Zemeck that you know, 148 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,399 the two biggest games of November twenty third Week thirteen 149 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,240 in a college football season involved Indiana, Arizona State and BYU. 150 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:07,759 Absolutely unreal, absolutely unreal the journey that this season has taken. 151 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,919 So that's the landscape in the Big Twelve. And one 152 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,960 of the stories attached to this is Who's Big Twelve 153 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:21,200 coach of the year. Kalani Sataki very very clearly was 154 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:24,840 the front runner entering this past weekend. I mean, his 155 00:09:24,919 --> 00:09:29,200 team had not lost any games. Arizona States lost twice, 156 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:33,720 you know, the Sun Devils losing to Cincinnati, but that 157 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:40,519 wasn't their only loss of the season. So you know, Sataki, 158 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:43,559 with b YU being unbeaten, he was clearly in the 159 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:47,159 driver's seat. But now now we do have to wonder, 160 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,799 you know, is coach Prime Deon Sanders in the mix? 161 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,039 You know? Maybe? I mean I think if Coloradle wins 162 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,159 the Big Twelve championship at this point, that's going to 163 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,159 be a very strong arm argument for Dion. If the 164 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,440 Buffaloes do get it done, if they can go all 165 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,120 the way and make the playoff, that you know, it 166 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,600 would be hard to argue against that. So, you know, 167 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,799 after the Big Twelve champions game, we might be sitting 168 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,519 there saying that that coach Prime is the guy. But 169 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,960 now Kenny Dillingham of Arizona State, he has firmly inserted 170 00:10:23,039 --> 00:10:26,559 himself into this race. I mean Arizona State having just 171 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,240 two losses and having a chance to win the Big 172 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:33,639 Twelve and go to the College Football Playoff. Arizona State, 173 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:35,720 a team that you know, lot was three and nine 174 00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:38,919 last year, obviously had a bunch of injuries. That's something 175 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,519 that I focused on. You know that It's not as 176 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,159 though that was the full measure of what Arizona State 177 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,000 could be. It's not as though it was a terrible team. 178 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,559 That was an injury ravaged team, and Dillionham actually did 179 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,679 well with what he had. Nevertheless, nevertheless, to see ASU 180 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,039 go from that low to that high, it's kind of 181 00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:02,879 a similar to Colorado. Colorado you know had the miserable 182 00:11:02,919 --> 00:11:06,159 finish to twenty twenty three and has just flipped it 183 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,919 all around. That's the that's the that's the theme of 184 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,919 the Big Twelve. It's basically real estate. It's flipping. A 185 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,159 lot of flipping in the Big Twelve. That's the theme 186 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,759 of twenty twenty four in that conference. But Kenny Dillingham 187 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,440 has to be considered. And obviously, obviously if aras on 188 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,039 the State goes out and beats b YU, which coach 189 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,279 is in better position for Big Twelve Coach of the Year, 190 00:11:32,639 --> 00:11:35,240 it would probably dilling be dilling Ham at this point. 191 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,320 You know, if if he beats b YU and if 192 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:44,399 Sataki and BYU win, then you know, Sataki probably firms 193 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,440 up his grip on the award. But but you have 194 00:11:46,519 --> 00:11:51,840 Colorado there, paraud wins the whole shebang and gets to 195 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,399 the College Football Playoff with an eleven and two record, 196 00:11:55,159 --> 00:11:57,840 it will be very hard to argue against coach Bryan 197 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:04,240 so an amazing conference title race, an amazing college football 198 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:08,679 playoff race, an amazing Coach of the Year race in 199 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,279 the Big Twelve, and they all involve Western programs BYU, Colorado, 200 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,399 Arizona State. In terms of just looking at this BYU 201 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,000 Arizona State game. I mean, we have to touch on 202 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,720 BYU's lost to Kansas, and you know, for those of 203 00:12:23,759 --> 00:12:26,240 you who are interested in betting, not necessarily in terms 204 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:28,639 of making money, but just in terms of you know, 205 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:32,440 how did these lines arrive at certain places and how 206 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,720 do these guys in Vegas know so much? Well, you know, 207 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:39,440 we got another example on this past Saturday, right BYU 208 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,840 was unbeaten, Kansas was three and six, and yet BYU 209 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,000 was just a two and a half point favorite at 210 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,720 home at night. You know, how was that line so low? 211 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,919 And this was one of those Vegas knows moments right 212 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,120 that you know, BYU was coming off the very emotional, 213 00:12:56,279 --> 00:13:00,720 draining win over Utah. And by the way, I do 214 00:13:00,799 --> 00:13:03,440 need to get in a word about that that BYU 215 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:07,159 Utah game. The camera angles that we all had that 216 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,759 we all saw on ESPN for that holding call against 217 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,240 Utah the end of the BYU game. You know, I 218 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:18,240 said it was a questionable holding call, the one that 219 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:21,240 Utah was right to be angry about. It was based 220 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:24,919 on the television angles that were available. All right. I 221 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,879 always say when I when I live tweet football games, 222 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,240 and I wish we had another angle, you know, to 223 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,360 show us a better view of the play. Well, during 224 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,679 the week, a BYU fan tweeted out an angle from 225 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,000 the opposite side of the field, like around the twenty 226 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,120 yard line thereabouts on that side of Rice Echul Stadium 227 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,360 in Salt Lake City. He had his camera out, his 228 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,440 his his phone out, and he clipped a live video, 229 00:13:55,039 --> 00:13:59,159 you know, an in motion moving picture of that play 230 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,039 from the opposite sideline. That camera angle something that we 231 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:09,679 did not have access to on ESPN's production truck. ESPN 232 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,720 never provided an angle remotely close to this one that 233 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:18,440 BYU fans camera showed. Oh yes, it was definitely a hole. 234 00:14:19,039 --> 00:14:22,480 That that there was a fat jersey grab that steered 235 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:25,600 the b YU receiver off balance. It's not as that 236 00:14:25,639 --> 00:14:28,919 the BYU receiver stumbled, which is what it appeared to 237 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,879 be from the high press box camera angle on the 238 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,039 ESPN show. The ESPN broadcast. Now this BYU fans angle 239 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:40,960 from the opposite side of the field, it did show, Yes, 240 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,159 it was a hold. So that you know, that puts 241 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,759 a lot of what happened after the BYU game in 242 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,559 a different light. And so you know, Utah was not jobbed. 243 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,960 Let's let's just clear that for the record, but again, 244 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,799 nice to have a different angle. It just wasn't provided 245 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,519 by ESPN, so definitely had to get that on the 246 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:02,679 record as part of this Get Off My Pylon college 247 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,919 Football podcast. All right, So back to BYU and Kansas. 248 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,039 So Vegas knew, Vegas knew that after the draining Utah 249 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,519 game there's gonna be a tough turnaround and Kansas is 250 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:17,279 playing better. Kansas beat Iowa State the week before, so 251 00:15:17,399 --> 00:15:20,679 like this is a talented Kansas team. The record doesn't 252 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,759 show it at four and six, but you know, Kansas 253 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:26,120 has been competitive. Kansas almost beat Arizona State, Kansas led 254 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:29,120 Arizona State going in the final few minutes, and again, 255 00:15:29,159 --> 00:15:32,759 as I mentioned earlier, Arizona State's been scrambling to win 256 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:34,720 a few of its games this year. That was one 257 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,159 of them. It was a late game score. ASU rescued 258 00:15:38,159 --> 00:15:40,840 itself against Kansas, and who knew just how big that 259 00:15:40,919 --> 00:15:45,440 game would be between Kansas and ASU. But Kansas has 260 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,679 been right there in a competitive, parody filled Big Twelve conference. 261 00:15:49,679 --> 00:15:52,519 It just hasn't finished a lot of games, and Kansas 262 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:55,200 has been a terrible team at the ends of halves. 263 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,399 First half, second half. Kansas has allowed so many end half, 264 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,720 you know, last two minutes of the half touchdowns this season. 265 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:08,320 It's been remarkable to see. But Kansas has been close 266 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,240 and Vegas knew that. So that's part of you know 267 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,519 that that helps explain and provide a little bit of 268 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:18,799 context for Kansas being BYU. I mean, it was a 269 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:22,720 significant result and it might have been a mild surprise 270 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:26,000 to some, but it's not. It's not this mammoth shocker 271 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:30,360 BYU playing on the edge all season long and finally 272 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:33,080 fell off the edge. You know, that's basically the story. 273 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:38,720 BYU almost lost to Oklahoma State at home, and Oklahoma 274 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,039 State's at the bottom of the Big Twelve, So don't 275 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,559 be two shocked by it. I will admit to being 276 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,480 somewhat surprised. And one thing we have to say in 277 00:16:46,559 --> 00:16:49,000 terms of you know who's Big Twelve coach of the Year, 278 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,240 Kalani Sataki and his offensive staff, they really dropped the 279 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:56,120 ball at the end there against Kansas. Three straight runs 280 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,960 on first and ten in the red zone. First down. 281 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:01,559 Don't mind it all because you're trying to drain the clock. 282 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,400 You don't want to score with giving Kansas too much 283 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,359 time to respond. That's fine, second down, I can still 284 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,400 see it. You know, you want to make Kansas use 285 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,920 another time out, you want to run more time off 286 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,119 the clock. That's still fair. But really, third down, there's 287 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,720 absolutely no excuse. You have to throw the ball, and 288 00:17:21,799 --> 00:17:26,720 Byu ran the ball and really just narrowed its amount 289 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,279 of options. That was poorly handled. That was poorly handled 290 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:32,720 by Byu. And so if if you're weighing in on 291 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:35,880 the Big twelve Coach of Year debate, you're arguing for 292 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,559 Dillingham or Dion Sanders, You're gonna look at that Sataki 293 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,359 sequence for Byu is one of the reasons why it 294 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,799 should either be Dillionham or coach Prime. So Byu had 295 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:53,079 a chance to mount another late rally, but play calling 296 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,880 really got to the Cougars, and of course, you know 297 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,279 they just they had a flat offensive game. That's gonna happen. 298 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,119 That's why, that's why going twelve and oh, thirteen and 299 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,680 oh was one of the hardest things in sports. It's 300 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,079 why Florida State's record deserved a playoff bid last year. 301 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:09,599 You know, cast aside whatever you want to say about 302 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,119 Jordan Travis being injured and who would have won on 303 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,839 a neutral field, that's really not how we should select 304 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,599 playoff teams. Florida State went unbeaten. That should have been honored. 305 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,279 It wasn't. If BYU had been able to go thirteen 306 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:25,799 and oh, that should be honored. Obviously we won't have 307 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:29,440 that scenario. But you know, for people who want to 308 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,720 minimize going unbeaten against a power for a conference schedule, 309 00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:36,920 you know, we found out again how tough that really is. 310 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:43,759 BYU experiencing the bitter herbs of that particular loss to Kansas. 311 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:51,000 So BYU Arizona State. Can BYU mentally reset that. That's 312 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:54,799 going to be a challenge because if the Utah game 313 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,920 was draining, it was a game BYU won, but it 314 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,000 was draining. This Kansas game was draining. It was a slot, 315 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,319 it was an uphill battle. It's a game in which 316 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,480 BYU never really felt comfortable. Kansas got the early lead, 317 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,519 BYU never really felt in control, had some moments of quality, 318 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,000 but never fully took over that game. And so you 319 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:16,519 have to wonder if BYU is hitting a wall here, 320 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,759 does this team hit the reset button and bounce back 321 00:19:20,839 --> 00:19:25,920 with a really vigorous, strong performance, or, as Marty Schottenheimer 322 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,960 would say, the pilot lights out is the pilot light 323 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:32,640 going to go out on BYU and this season Arizona 324 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,920 State meanwhile playing its best football the year. Right now, 325 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,960 it goes into Kansas State and again takes care of 326 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,799 business pretty cleanly and convincingly. I would say that just 327 00:19:43,839 --> 00:19:47,680 if you asked a panel of ten fifteen college football 328 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:50,480 experts who's going to win, I'd say most of them 329 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,200 would lean to Arizona State. I would probably slightly lean 330 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:58,480 in that direction. But really I have no clue who's 331 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,200 going to win this game because I have had no 332 00:20:00,319 --> 00:20:03,319 clue about the Big Twelve all season long. It's been 333 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,720 the hardest conference to predict. Just when you're thinking a 334 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:10,960 team's gonna zig a Zags and vice versa, Big Twelve 335 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,720 has just been incredibly slippery. And what I said earlier 336 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,240 about how the teams predicted to finish at the top 337 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:20,119 have been middle or bottom, and the teams predicted to 338 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,039 finish at the bottom have risen to the top. It's 339 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:26,759 the most upside down conference I can ever remember relative 340 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:29,559 to preseason expectations. You know, it's not as though it's 341 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:33,279 just one or two teams that have confounded. It's been 342 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:36,839 pretty much the whole darn conference. You know, it's been 343 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,400 like the whole top third has been bottom third or middle, 344 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:43,519 and the whole bottom third or middle has gone to 345 00:20:43,559 --> 00:20:49,440 the top. Just absolutely remarkable. So the Big twelve has 346 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,559 become the story in the Western United States. And you know, 347 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,920 before the season, I'm thinking, you know, Kansas State's gonna 348 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,759 be there. You know, maybe Kansas gets in as well. 349 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,160 You know, it's gonna be in the Sunflower State, it's 350 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,960 gonna be in the in the central planes that those 351 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,759 are going to be the main players, and and then 352 00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:12,599 and Utah being the main Western team. UH, with Arizona 353 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,200 also having a shot. It just hasn't worked out that way. 354 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,519 It's been a very different, uh Big twelve race compared 355 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:26,160 to anyone's set of preseason expectations. Let's hit on the 356 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,400 group of five and and and Boise State over the 357 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,440 Mountain West and Boise State, it's a secondary got shredded 358 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,119 by San Jose State, but the Broncos were able to 359 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,440 gradually work their way back into that game against ken 360 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,759 New Montalolo and the Bowl bound Spartans. A very good 361 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:45,400 comeback for Boise State and what was a natural ambush 362 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,039 spot Boise State not playing well, you know, barely beat Nevada. 363 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,279 That was not a comfortable win or a good performance. 364 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:56,519 And this was an up and down performance as well. 365 00:21:56,839 --> 00:21:59,599 But the Broncos at least survive, you know when your clunkers. 366 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:07,200 And and so with Tulane an Army playing in the 367 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,000 AAC Championship game, you know, the Tulane's really good John 368 00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:16,200 Someraw the replacement for Willie Fritz. He seems to have 369 00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:19,400 a be on track to have an excellent career. I 370 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,559 mean John Somemraw could be a really good coach for 371 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:25,759 a very long time in this business. So Army not 372 00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:28,079 only has to face more Dame and has to get 373 00:22:28,079 --> 00:22:29,799 through that challenge, but then it will then need to 374 00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:35,960 get past uh Tulane as well. If Boise State can 375 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,200 go twelve and one the Broncos, you know, the odds 376 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,480 are that Army loses at least once, if not twice, 377 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,960 and that should mean that Boise State will get the 378 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,759 Group of five championship in the spot in the College 379 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:54,000 Football playoffs. But but you know, the Broncos have not 380 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,079 been strong in the past few weeks. They need to 381 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,920 firm things up so that they don't get ambushed before 382 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,640 the end of the season. Ashton Genty staying on course 383 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:10,599 for a Heisman finalist spot behind Colorado's Travis Hunter. Travis 384 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,920 Hunter makes some more highlight reel plays against Utah and 385 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,160 that was on Fox Big New Saturday. It's hard to 386 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,359 see Travis Hunter losing at this point, but Ashton Genty 387 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,240 should definitely be a Heisman finalist. Let's all keep in mind. 388 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,200 Also keep in mind that Oregon quarterback Dylan Gabriel did 389 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,680 not have a great game against Wisconsin. That should pretty 390 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,279 much solidify Hunter as the leader for the award. It 391 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,480 should also enable a lot of voters to put Ashton 392 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:45,079 Genty ahead of Dylan Gabriel in terms of maybe second 393 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,880 place votes instead of third place votes. That gent should 394 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,039 be higher on the list than Dylan Gabriel for work 395 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:56,559 comprying just those two players. It's notable, though, that three 396 00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:00,000 of the four top Heisman candidates, cam Ward of Miami 397 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,279 being the other or from the West. It's gonna be 398 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:05,039 interesting to see how the final few weeks of the 399 00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:10,519 season reshaped the Heisman calculus, if at all, so, Ashton 400 00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:14,839 Gente and Boise State both going down the stretch with 401 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,079 so much to play for, We're going to get to 402 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,759 Oregon a bit. But the other story, Washington State from 403 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:26,559 the pack to the two pack ambushed at New Mexico, 404 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,759 and so Washington State's dream of going eleven and one 405 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,960 and at least giving the committee something to think about 406 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:37,559 in the larger playoff chase, that dream dies in Washington State. 407 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:42,440 That defense just wasn't able to get enough stops. If 408 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:46,119 Washington State was not getting turnovers, it was hard for 409 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,839 that team to separate itself from the competition. And let's 410 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,200 remind you Washington State trailed San Jose State late on 411 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,599 that Friday night several weeks ago, had to kick a 412 00:24:57,599 --> 00:24:59,720 fifty two yard field goal at the end of regulation 413 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:03,319 to that game and send it into overtime. Washington State, 414 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,240 like BYU, another team that was living on the edge 415 00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:09,279 a number of times this season. Washington State also was 416 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,000 lucky to beat San Diego State. That was a very 417 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,920 very close game twenty nine to twenty six, a game 418 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,799 in which Washington State trailed for large portions of play. 419 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,200 Washington State living on the edge again, like BYU, it 420 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:26,240 fell off that edge in Albuquerque and a very impressive 421 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:29,880 win for Bronco menden Hall and the Lobos. They did 422 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,880 not give up on their season. They had it rough 423 00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:36,440 for several weeks, but they have not stopped battling. And 424 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,039 so if you're a New Mexico fan, you're thinking, you know, 425 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,759 Bronco menden Hall has this program headed in the right direction. 426 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,200 Maybe next year New Mexico could climb even higher in 427 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:51,519 the Mountain West. But Washington State's aspirations of the playoff 428 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:53,440 or at least a big Bowl game, a New Year's 429 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,799 Six game, those aspirations seem to have died in Albuquerque. 430 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,559 All right, Now we get to the Big Ten and 431 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:04,599 now we get to Oregon. And it has to be 432 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,759 said that in this twelve team playoff season, the idea 433 00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:11,759 that the twelve team playoff was going to kill the 434 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:15,160 fun of the regular season. You know, all these heavyweight teams, well, 435 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,640 of course they're going to be in the playoff. You know, 436 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,240 there's no question that, you know, Alabama, Georgia are going 437 00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:23,119 to be in the playoff. Hey, they can lose one 438 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,920 or two games and still get in. This season hasn't 439 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:33,680 really unfolded that way, Like Alabama is not a shoeing. Now, Alabama, 440 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,519 you know, is likely to get in, but you know, 441 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:43,039 still has to play Oklahoma and Auburn in the final 442 00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:46,599 two weeks and Alabama, you know, has had some unsteady moments, 443 00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:49,480 so it doesn't seem like a done deal. But I 444 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,839 would say that Alabama has to like its position. Give 445 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,720 them the number of quality wins on the resume. Now, again, 446 00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:59,480 I'm not talking about Western teams right now, but I'm 447 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:01,880 trying to make larger point that connects back to Oregon. 448 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:06,559 You know, the SEC is probably going to get four 449 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:10,039 teams into the playoffs. The worry is that the SEC 450 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,359 will get five, and that might come at the expense 451 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,240 of Indiana. If Indiana goes eleven to one, yeah, that 452 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,319 would be pretty bad. I would not like that. I 453 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,240 would not think it was right either, you know, because 454 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,799 that fifth if there are five SEC teams in at 455 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,920 least you know that that fifth team is going to 456 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,680 have at least two losses, maybe three. It would be 457 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:32,960 very bad. If there was a three loss SEC team 458 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,559 getting in over one loss Indiana, that would not go 459 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,039 down well. We'll just have to wait and see what 460 00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:44,400 it happens, but that would not go down well. The 461 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,160 point I'm making though with the SEC is that you 462 00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:50,680 don't have teams that have you know fully tucked away 463 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,720 these playoff spots. You know, it's not as though Georgia 464 00:27:55,759 --> 00:28:00,680 and Alabama are definitely in Okay, they still have work 465 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,720 to do, So it hasn't been an open and shut case, 466 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,920 all right. So in that sense, the twelve team playoff 467 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:12,519 has not diminished or diluted the drama of the rigular season. 468 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,720 But here's the example where it has. That Oregon Wisconsin game. 469 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,799 That was the example of the twelve team playoff really 470 00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:27,880 reducing the amount of drama, suspense, emotional impact, and heft. 471 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,240 That was a case of the twelve team playoff taking 472 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:34,599 away some of the excitement from a college football moment. 473 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,119 Because we all knew Oregon loses to Wisconsin, Ducks are 474 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,400 still firmly, firmly in the playoff because they beat Ohio State, 475 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,599 they were unbeaten, you know, Penn State with a loss, 476 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,480 Ohio State with a loss, Indiana likely to lose against 477 00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:55,079 Ohio State. Ducks are getting in even if they lose 478 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,440 to Wisconsin. You know, they just need to take care 479 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,880 of Washington at home and they go to the Big 480 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,960 Ten championship game. So that actually was a case of 481 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,319 twelve team playoff taking a little bit of juice out 482 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:12,960 of a college football moment. Obviously, Wisconsin didn't complete the upset, 483 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:20,039 but you know, the drama, the theatrical value of Oregon 484 00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:23,200 potentially losing wasn't nearly as great as it would have 485 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680 been if we had a four team playoff, Right, if 486 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,039 we had a four team playoff, that Oregon Wisconsin game 487 00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:32,920 would have been ten times one hundred times more dramatic 488 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:36,359 than it actually was. So we finally had a true 489 00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:40,799 instance of the twelve team playoff taking a little bit 490 00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:45,000 of the bite out of the college football season, and 491 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:49,680 Oregon was the example. And so it's gonna be interesting 492 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:54,880 to see how how many times that scenario gets replicated 493 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:59,319 in future seasons. And you know, we've have the schedules, 494 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,799 different schedules for next year have largely been created and finalized. 495 00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:10,400 But you know, if we're trying to think about how 496 00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:14,400 conference schedules should be done in twenty twenty six and 497 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,960 twenty twenty seven and on and on, there are some 498 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,400 interesting takeaways here now that we're kind of getting into 499 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,039 late November and we're seeing the scenarios play out in 500 00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:29,440 the various conferences. And there's there's one a person I 501 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:35,119 talked to on college football Twitter made a very interesting point. 502 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,680 He said, you know, because Oregon's basically in the playoff now, 503 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:44,079 it should rest its starters for the next game. Well 504 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,880 two things. One, Oregon is actually off for November twenty third, 505 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,359 this coming weekend, so Oregon actually will get two weeks 506 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,720 of rest. But let's say let's say that Oregon did 507 00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:59,039 not have November twenty third off. All right, I mean, 508 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,880 this person's making a really important point here. The point was, 509 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,759 you know, because the Big Ten Championship game is right 510 00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:11,200 around the corner, you don't want to play your starters 511 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:13,079 full tilt if you don't have to. You want to 512 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:16,079 rest them up for the Big Ten Championship game, which 513 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,359 you know, if you win, you get home field advantage, 514 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,039 or not home field advantage, you get the buye. You 515 00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:25,960 don't have to play in a first round game. You 516 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,200 go straight into the quarterfinals. So that wow, Like that 517 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,720 was a really eye opening point about the late season 518 00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:39,640 schedule and who does Oregon play next again, Oregon has 519 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,680 two weeks off. But still the other point to make here, 520 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,400 Oregon's playing Washington the week before the Big Ten Championship game, 521 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,880 and of course Oregon and Washington hate each other. That 522 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,759 is a big time rivalry. Oregon hates Washington more than 523 00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,359 it hates Oregon State. Just in case anyone's not clear 524 00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:59,240 about that, if you don't follow college football and college 525 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:02,000 sports in the way best the way I do, I 526 00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,720 can tell you Washington is the much bigger deal than 527 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,599 Oregon State. It's not doesn't mean Oregon State's not a 528 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,160 big deal to the Oregon Ducks. It definitely is. That's 529 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:15,119 that's you know, in state bragging rights, of course, but 530 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:18,400 Washington is the much much bigger deal for an Oregon 531 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,039 Duck fan. That's a that's that's a bitter rival. You know, 532 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,680 Oregon Oregon State is that whole you know, office co 533 00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:27,519 workers thing. You know, you know, you're a Duck, You're 534 00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,319 you're uh co workers, a beaver. You want to have 535 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,839 the bragging rights, and it's certainly important, like USC and 536 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,240 UCLA are about to have their rivalry this week. Uh, 537 00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:40,839 you certainly want to win that game. But Oregon Washington, 538 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,480 it's bitter, it's nasty. They hate each other. So Oregon's 539 00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:48,279 not gonna, uh, you know, take it easy on Washington. 540 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:50,559 You know, that's not a game where you want to 541 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:53,519 take it easy on you on your bitter rival. It 542 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:57,759 brings up the point about conference scheduling though, right, you 543 00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:02,920 shouldn't be scheduling your bitter rival the week before, uh 544 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:07,039 the conference championship game, you know, And so in future years, 545 00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:12,480 in future seasons, three four years from now, you have 546 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,359 to wonder will the will various schools say, oh, we 547 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,440 don't want to be in the position that Oregon's in, where, 548 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,440 you know, we we want to beat our arch rival. 549 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,319 But that's right before the rival that's right before the 550 00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:27,559 conference championship game, which is right before the college football playoff. 551 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,440 You don't want to create that stack of must win situations. 552 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,039 So the point is based on, you know, this interesting 553 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,599 observation made by you know, a friend of mine on 554 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,160 college football Twitter. His and by the way, his name 555 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,920 is Tucker Blankenship. Uh you can just you can just 556 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,240 look him up if you'd like. Very smart sports fan, uh, 557 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:55,480 really really astute observation from Tucker. In the future, you know, 558 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,480 if I'm Oregon or if I'm another high powered school, 559 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:03,119 do I want my rivalry game to be at the 560 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,920 very end of November? You know, obviously you don't want 561 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,000 to play it in the September or early October. Okay, 562 00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:11,519 but maybe you move it up to mid November this 563 00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:14,719 past weekend instead of a November thirty game, it's a 564 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,960 November sixteen game. Now, Ohio State and Michigan fans, you know, like, 565 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:23,159 for them, the tradition of playing at the very end 566 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:26,159 of the season, you know that matters. So maybe they 567 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,960 might not want their game to move. But I can 568 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,800 certainly imagine other fans seeing Oregon situation thinking, you know 569 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,239 what we should we don't have to play our arrivalry 570 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,559 game at the very end of the season. Okay, you know, 571 00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:44,000 we can move it up a couple of weeks, maybe 572 00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:47,639 even just one week, so that then the week before 573 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,480 the conference championship game we can rest or or you 574 00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:57,119 know something like that. Maybe you know, if that if 575 00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:02,559 that weekend isn't idle, you play cupcake game, then you 576 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:04,679 don't play the Cupcake game in September. You play that 577 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,480 Cupcake game on November thirtieth, Thanksgiving weekend, so that you 578 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,199 get a chance to rest your starters for the conference 579 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,960 championship game and then for the playoff. So that's a 580 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:20,480 really really important point made by my friend Tucker Blankenship 581 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,840 on Twitter. Just a great observation, and there will be 582 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,280 more to be said about that and other parts of 583 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,320 this playoff process and this playoff formula that are all 584 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,079 still coming into place as we as we go Alarm 585 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,079 and as we see more parts of the playoff mechanism 586 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,840 coming together or perhaps falling apart, depending on your point 587 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,360 of view, there will be a lot more to be 588 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,719 said about all of these different stories. But Oregon and 589 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,559 its situation playing Washington the week before the Big Ten 590 00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:58,639 champis your game like that is notable for so many 591 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,159 different reasons. The Ducks are going to be in the playoff, 592 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,119 but how they get into the playoffs, you know, how 593 00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:10,920 they get there, that's going to be a continuous talking 594 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,880 point and how it's going to affect Oregon once it 595 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,639 eventually does start its playoff journey in the middle of 596 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:25,440 December or perhaps or perhaps in the quarterfinal round as well. 597 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,400 So all these balls in the air in the Big Twelve, 598 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,679 in the in the Big Ten, and in the Group 599 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,079 of five the Mountain West Boise State, you want to 600 00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:41,480 be following all of these plot points, all of these 601 00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:45,079 storylines here on the Get Off My Pilon college Football 602 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:48,280 podcast looking at college football in the Western United States. 603 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,800 Heisman Trophy as well, you know, that's a West dominated race, 604 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,400 to be sure. So we're going to be keeping you 605 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:01,559 in touch with these various stories, yes, and it's going 606 00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:05,159 to be incredibly thrilling to see how all these plot 607 00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:08,800 points get resolved over the next few weeks. It's going 608 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,320 to be exciting, and it's something that really none of 609 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,519 us anticipated before the season. Now, Oregon we did, but 610 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,239 just about everything else BYU, Colorado, Arizona State, the Heisman Trophy, 611 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,880 Ashton gent, so many different Western storylines that are at 612 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,119 the forefront of the national college football conversation. EYU and 613 00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:39,199 Arizona State playing the second most important game of November twenty, 614 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,960 third week thirteen. Who would a thunket. 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