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Speaker 1: Ellie Murphy my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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where you can find her at. Ellie Murphy links to

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all of our social media in the episode description below.

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Please make sure you support the content creators that come

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on the show, otherwise they don't come on anymore. Ellie,

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It's a pleasure to have you on tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure here.

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Speaker 1: So you are a very special case. When I originally

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started the show with my co host, we had two intentions.

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I want to interview the biggest names in porn, and

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I want to interview the girls who are not the

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biggest names in porn, who will become the biggest names

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in porn. And through that process, we started going deeper

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and we started brand new faces. Now. We brought you

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on early, early for brand new faces, and it was

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amazing because we talked to performers like you, and some

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of them stay a year, some of them stay six months.

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Some of them decide they don't really want to do this,

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and you know, decide it's not for them years later,

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four or five years later. However, many it is here.

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You are. You have worked with some of the biggest

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performers in the industry. You have worked on some of

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the biggest sites in the industry. You are an example

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of someone who went from a brand new face for

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me up to an actual mainstream performer. And I know

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it sounds weird as I've met you and talked to

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you one time in the past, but I want to

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say you had the professionalism in you back then, and

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it is only shown how strong it was that you've

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gotten to this point. So I just want to congratulate

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you on that and say you've done a great job

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with your career up to this point, and I think

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you're You're awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I definitely appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Sure. What first question, And this is corny, but I

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always start out my interviews with the going Deeper girls

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with this, from what you do the entire day, what

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do you consider your job title to be if you

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were to put on a resume the adult industry goes away.

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Now you got to put this on your resume. What

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was your job in this industry?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I could put one specific title

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on it. Broadly speaking, I would say adult performer or

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performer creator tends to be kind of riling with it personally,

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because for me, I don't know It's always been one

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of those things where like just because I do porn,

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I know that like makes me a star, but I

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feel like I'm still just an actress, not like because

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I'm not like at the top with like the top

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top models that have been there. I kind of see

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it a little differently. I see myself kind of on

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the same plane as like everybody else. So I just

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consider as all performers. And since that encompasses, it can

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also encompass not just the mainstream side of things, but

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the content creation, the camming, all of that. It's all

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performing in some aspect, and so I would say probably

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just adult performer or adult actress just in all encompassing.

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Speaker 1: What's so interesting about that too, is it that doesn't

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account for any of the social media work you have

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to do, like the outside perspective, right the outside someone just.

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Speaker 2: Like social media. Well, marketing is not my category, has

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never been. I still struggle.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Okay, fair enough, So you'd be even bigger

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if you gave a shit about that. I think if

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I had.

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Speaker 2: If I had a marketing team, probably I know that

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that's honestly probably the only way I'm going to be

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able to actually handle all the social media aspects in

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the way that I really need to be able to

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because there are so many of them and keeping track

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of everything is really difficult with everything else that goes on,

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and so like if I was able to do that better, yeah,

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I'd probably be a lot more.

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Speaker 1: Known or known.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's not necessarily the word, right, But it

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also just depends, like where you take it to, Like

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this year has been very interesting for everybody, and so

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it's like if you're doing mainstream mostly and then like

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you're doing only canes on the side or vice versa,

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that's a little different than like if you're juggling that

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and like the camming aspect of things, because you can

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and put plugs in certain places that you can't in others,

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kind of like with here.

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Speaker 1: Sure, okay, all right, that makes sense. So just to

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recount a little bit for the audience, if you if

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they haven't listened to the Brand New Faces episode, how

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did you initially decide to make that step into the

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adult entertainment industry. Did you have like vanilla stuff before

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this and you just decided like fuck it, this is

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who I am, I'm going to do this, or was

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it always your intention like, let me jump into this

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as soon as I'm comfortable doing it.

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Speaker 2: So I actually never saw myself getting into this industry.

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If you had asked me, like when I graduated high school,

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if I ever saw myself here, I would have said

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absolutely not. I was on a completely different path. And

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that got not just derailed, but kind of exploded. It

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kind of became a It became a path that I

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could no longer attain in any passion that would have

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like been reasonable timing wise, okay, And so I had

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to do something different, and I had by that point,

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I had started camming. And so since I was already

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camming after I was later doxed, and that was basically

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at the point I'd been considering doing mainstream. But at

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the point that that happened, I was just like, fuck it, everybody,

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everybody already knows, the whole thing's already been exploded. Worst

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has already passed. Let's do this, okay.

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Speaker 1: Was and just no personal stuff, no names. I totally

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get that too. Was that a personal doxing? Was that

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from a fan? Was that? Like? How did that? How

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did that come about? Again? No parton. You don't have

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to give any personal inform me just in that aspect,

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it was a fan that did that in some way,

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does that did that maybe show away from it a

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little bit, like a little bit like h or if

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it was a personal thing, then maybe that pushes you

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towards it, you know.

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Speaker 2: The so the pushing towards it was just the fact

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that it was already out there everyone, Like a lot

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of people's biggest fear if their family, friends, community, anybody

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that they knew before getting into porn didn't know or

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doesn't know what they're doing, is then finding out and

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coming to a head unexpectedly like a random person from

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high school, like hitting up that kind of thing, or family,

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extended family whatever. So in that aspect, because all of

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that had already been taken care of for me, I

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was like, Okay, let's do this. I don't have to

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worry about any of that now hitting me at from

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left field, And so that kind of pushed it towards

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in some aspects. Yeah, the whole event of being dogs

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did kind of make things difficult for a time. But

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it was a person I knew, I knew who did it,

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and so that made it a little easier in the

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fact of at least you know, so it's not an

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unknown out there. But it was also my fans that

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kept me going, because if it weren't for the people

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that I had in my room when that happened, and

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the people that had stuck with me through everything up

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and to that point and through that, I don't know

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that I would have had the strength to actually make

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that drump and keep going with what I was doing

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and not just give up after that, because that's a

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lot of mental and emotional stress to deal with when

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your entire world implodes.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, can I ask you about the ebbs and

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flows of this industry you came in You still are

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a beautiful, young looking girl, red hair like you mark

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a lot of the things where you know, I want

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to get you on my website if I'm a producer.

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How did that go when you finally started doing mainstream stuff?

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Was it a bunch of offers at once? Did they

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eventually kind of slow down a little bit? Or has

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it been consistent through only because I you know, applying

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it to camming as well when they really promote you

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at the beginning there, I've heard girls go, you know,

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you get five thousand people in your room or eight

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thousand people in your room, and then a couple months

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later you have fifteen, sixteen, twenty people. So in terms

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of shooting mainstream stuff, and then I'd like to ask

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about the same thing with the Chad as well, or

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the the camming as well. What is the ebb and

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flow of it? Did you get a big burst at

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the beginning and did you did you did you think

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like this is it? Because I've made it, I am good.

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Speaker 2: So it's different for everybody. I'll start with that every

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person's experience, especially when the story is completely different. I

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also started that to say, I would say mine is

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my kind of start and story to this industry has

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never been the standard by any means A lot of

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for me, I didn't and I still haven't done the

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New Girls circuit, Like I didn't shot for all the companies.

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Yet I had a really hard time actually finding an

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agency that would take me at first, and there were

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a few different reasons for that, one of them being

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at the time my skin was still really bad from

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being sick, and so I had to actually wait a

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little bit longer than I had originally. When I originally

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tried to get in the industry, just to get my

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skin to clear up on my body and to just

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be back at a healthier state visibly. And so with

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that kind of they things a little. And by that

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point COVID had ended all the all the girls were

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starting to kind of that were coming in at that

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time that I was also turning in. We're starting to

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become bigger. There was a lot more only fans girls

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starting to come in. So that was starting to make

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things harder because now everything is shifted towards social media

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and which is where they're really headed now. And so

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I had trouble for kind of finding an agency at

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first a willion to represent me, and then I've struggled

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to have consistent representation or being presented to companies consistently,

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and I don't know exactly what the reason for that is.

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done have been in some form self booked or from

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them reaching out to me, or connections that I've made.

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I'll get a shoot for another company because some producers like, hey,

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you should shoot this person. And so it's been more

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that side of things than like getting bookings through an agency.

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they start and then get with an agency, they're like, oh,

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here's this shoot the shoot, the shoot, the shoot, and

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like you kind of do the circuit and then it

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slows down and it's Benny part of steady. The first

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averaged at least one shoot a month, maybe not actually

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one every month, maybe it'd be like three one month

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and none of the next, but about one did you

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shoots a month until this last year, and then it's

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been kind of down for everybody this last year just

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with all the adult verification stuff going on. It has

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made the beginning half of the year really difficult for

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the the websites to do shooting and deal with that

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because that was a huge thing that everybody had to

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stop what they were doing, deal with all the age

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verification and then kind of get back to work. And

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so shoots have been down a lot for everybody that

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during that part of the year, and so that's been

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more of a camming focus part for be Gotcha and

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to lead into that out of the question. And with camming, yes,

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you get depending on where you are, you get a

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promo period that is either a week, a month, whatever

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it is. You get a tag, you're put in the

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new person spots, and you do typically get a lot

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of followers during that time. Sometimes you keep that momentum

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and you'll be consistently having that many people in your

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room and getting that many followers. But a lot of

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you get put on the page with everybody else, and

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you get put on that page with everybody else. Depending

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on the way that the site does sorting, you could

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get lost in the back pages because you aren't the

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top number of followers, or the most active people in

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the room, or the model that's preferred by whoever's running

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side at the time. So it really depends on where

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you end up. I was very fortunate for a long

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time to end up on the side I started on.

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I was on the main page a lot until I

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had a issue during COVID where my idea expired and

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I couldn't get it renewed, so they tried to shadow

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ban me because you're no longer eighteen, because that's how

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that works. That's how that works, And so I was

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couldn't get house key because from Walmart because I couldn't

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prove that I was eighteen because my i D was

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expired by like three months.

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Speaker 1: I thought I just had to get a new ID.

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How fucking crazy is that that places won't accept it

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when it's expired. It doesn't change my birth date? Like,

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what are we doing here? What is this? I'm sorry?

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Speaker 2: I think they take it the same as like a

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fake ID. But during COVID there's nothing you could do

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because you literally couldn't go to the DMV. Yeah, so

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that made thing it's difficult there. Eventually after I didn't

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realize this, but shortly after we had talked last time,

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I had taken a break from camming for the most

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part because of shoots. I didn't realize when I went

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back to start camming like regularly regularly, I had been

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off the sites for about a year and a half. Wow,

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and so I had done a show here and there,

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but I hadn't really been on in a year and

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a half, which was crazy to think that it had

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been that long already. But I went back to cammymore.

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I switched. I've switched platforms now and on that platform

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since I started, I have consistently been on the first page.

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I consistently have people in my room. I haven't really

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had the struggles that a lot of girls talk about,

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where oh I haven't had anybody in my room. I've

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made five dollars and four hours, and like, I've been

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very fortunate to not have those struggles. And even my

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slow days, for the most part, are I would still

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consider decent. And so I do also contribute that a

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lot to a couple of my fans that I have,

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and they'll just come and they'll chat with me and

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hang out with me and like keep it so people

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are a little more willing to come in because if

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I'm just sitting there staring at a wall, nobody wants

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to just like, come look at a person that looks bored.

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And so if you look like caram fun and you're interacting,

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it makes a big difference. And I think that's kind

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of a thing with all of it, is if you

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are enjoying what you're doing, then the fans are going

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to enjoy them more.

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Speaker 1: Sure they can see your posts. Yeah yeah, you covered

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a ton there, let me go back. Well no, no, no,

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please please. I love it when performers talk, don't one

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word me, do me that favor what you said there

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about jumping back even further and then I want to

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talk a lot about the cam stuff. But uh, what

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you said about how everything's moving to followers and numbers

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and this and that, I'm going to use the rating

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system for women, and I'm sorry it's misogynistic, but I'm

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going to do it. Do you think a woman who

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is a ten in looks but has ten thousand followers

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or a woman who is a six in looks and

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has a million followers? The million what you're telling me

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is that girl's going to get booked ten times out

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of ten over the other one is that yeah, okay,

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so it's just they're looking for you guys to do

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the promotion side bummer.

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Speaker 2: Unless I mean unless like the other person fits their

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brand to a t. Sure, then they're gonna get picked over.

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But nine times out of ten, it comes to follow down.

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If you don't have a certain number of followers on

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social media, you're gonna get passed over, especially if you're

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trying to like book things yourself. There's people, there's even

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performers that if you don't have certain number of followers,

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they you can't collab because it's seen as kind of

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a you're using, which I do get because it's a

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you're using them to get up kind of situation, which

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for certain people, that is definitely a risk that you

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have to be aware of because you don't want to

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collab with people who are really shitty at doing their job. Sure,

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and then you end up with like bad content, but

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they end up with good content simply because of the

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name of the person in there that you're that they

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worked with, and so like, you can't use it for

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your brand, but they're gonna post it anyway, and then

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it boosts them up and you're like, okay, I can't,

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like I can see that being a problem. And so

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a lot of times you try and like you want

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to work your way up the ladder without trying to

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jump to the top. So just going straight for like

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I want to work with this person, this person, this person,

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because they're at the very top, they're the biggest names

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in the industry. It's like, let's you want to start

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with people kind of on your level and people that

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are a little higher and work your way up to

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that point instead of just jumping in and hey, you

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don't know me, I'm brand new, but I want to

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work with you like that kind of I feel like

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would come across as more like an over eager fan thing. Okay,

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but that could also just be my perspective.

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Speaker 1: Well, I so let me ask you, how much of

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a work up was it until you were able to

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work with a superstar like Lauren Phillips, Because I totally

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believe you worked all the smaller sites and built it up.

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But I went on Twitter one day and I go,

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this girl I interviewed like a few years ago as

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working with one of the biggest stars in the industry.

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Right here, she must have done something to get there,

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So what was that build up?

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Speaker 2: Like? Actually, that was pure luck. That was one of

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the craziest things because I'm talking more like content like

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self booking stuff with other creators for your things. That

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one I did kind of lucking to you because a

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lot of times they there are studios that will book

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new girls with experienced girls or experienced performers and it

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doesn't really matter. In this case, when I worked with

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Lauren for the first time, I was nervous as hell

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because it was my I was getting to work with Lauren,

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which was huge. It was my first scene for Girlfriend Films,

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which was huge, and it was my first girl girls thing,

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like ever, like actual girl girl thing that went any

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further than just like touching her kissing, which was also huge.

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So it was like a bunch of huge starts for

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me that day and like it was definitely kind of

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a overwhelming thing, but all in good ways. And so like,

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I that was this start of kind of a cool

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relationship with that company because my first two shoots that

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I did for them were with two huge names, and

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then it was like I worked with pretty well known

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girls for I think every single one of my shoots

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for that except for this Aucewood was another newer girl,

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but she's still well known and she's a redhead, so

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we have fun so like and it's one of those

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that just I don't know. It was kind of crazy

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and it was cool because I got to work with

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Borning in last year in a scene that's actually nominated,

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actually had a nomination this year for Exabans, and so

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that was really cool to like after a couple of

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years kind of come back around to that and be like,

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I'm getting to work with her again in another scene,

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and it was super cool to like be able to

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reconnect with that.

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Speaker 1: You you didn't get put on her no list. That's

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a nice thing, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right as a new person, I was like I was

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new to everything, new to that type of new to

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the girl girl scene. I was like, new to the

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industry is still and I'm like, I don't know what

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I'm doing. Like I'm going to follow. I'm gonna let

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you lead, Like, please give me direction, help me out here.

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I want to learn and like make this scene good.

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And she was very open to that and like willing

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to work with me and like kind of explain how

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it worked and all that. And so it's super cool

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that my first experience there was with a big name

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star and like give me that kind of head start

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jump in, and it wasn't just somebody else. It's like

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I don't know what I'm doing either, we're gonna wing it.

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Speaker 1: I want to. I want to weave back and forth

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between your your camming and the mainstream content. So going

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back to the camming, do you have any advice for

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a new performer that's coming on to one of the camsites?

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What can they do during that promo period? What is

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like the best thing that you've either seen either it

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worked for you or maybe it didn't work for you

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and you go, oh, maybe I should have done this.

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Is it going hard right off the bat, like big

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sexy shows to get a lot of followers? Is it

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teasing right off the bat? Like? What do you think

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if I were to come to you as a beautiful

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younger woman and say, hey, I want to start camming.

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I know I'm going to get this promo time. What

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do I do in the first two weeks of my show?

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Speaker 2: So those actually kind of a thing, The like I knew,

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what do I like? What tips would you have? Was

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the thing that I actually got quite a bit shortly

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after I started. I would say the two bigsins would

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be being on as much as possible during that promo time,

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especially if it is a site that only has a

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week long promo. Being aware of when your promo time

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starts is also huge because some sites the second year

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prove your time starts. Other sites, your first stream is

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when your promo times starts, So you could be approved

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and then not stream for two weeks and then that's

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when it starts, not when you were approved two weeks before.

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So being aware of that and when it does start,

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making sure you're on either at least as many days

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of that time as possible, if not as much time

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as possible, to make the best use of that as

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far as shows go, I would say I had a

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little bit of an advantage because I didn't jump in

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without knowing what I was kind of getting into. I'd

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done my research a bit, so I would say, if

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you have a better idea what you're doing, try it.

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The thing that didn't work on you is that I'm

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not very good at hiding the fact that I knew

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some of the secrets as far as like what the

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people are going to try and do in the room,

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and so I was prepared for that, so trying kind

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of play new girl a little better than I did.

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If you have an idea what you're getting into, and

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don't just like jump into having everything set up, don't

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like make it seem like it's an experienced person room

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that has just rebranded as a new name, because that

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can be a negative. But also having starting out kind

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of small, not doing like big crazy shows at first,

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not having like expecting super high tip prices, kind of

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just going seeing how it feels the first week. Just

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being there mostly, I think is a big thing and

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kind of seeing where it goes, what you feel like doing.

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Don't expect that you have to do things right off

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the bat, and I feel like a lot of new

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pmras I think that they have to because that's what

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everybody's asking for sure, And it's your room. You're in

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complete control. Ask for something. If it's not for a

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on out that you're willing to do it for, or

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theaters being obnoxious, just put your foot down at your room.

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If you need to kick them, kick them out, tell

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them no, I'm not interested right now. I'm still trying

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to figure this out how this works. And do it

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at your pace, on your timeline, with your comfort level.

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Don't get pushed in anything.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha? What is your room? What is the vibe the

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feel of your room right now? Is it a discussion?

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Are you talking with people? Are you answering questions? Are

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you playing games? Like if I head on over which,

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by the way, folks, links will be in the episode

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description just to remind you who I'm talking to. It's

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Ellie Murphy. You know exactly where you can find her

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at Ellie Murphy E L L I E. Murphy. Sorry,

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I apologize for the plug. What is your what is

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your ice? Head on over to your room? I click

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it in the episode description and you're there. You're live.

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What type of vibe are you putting out or experience?

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Speaker 2: Pretty much the same as it has always been. I

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depending on what side I'm on. If I'm on a

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site where I have apps where I can run games, I

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will run games or have my mods run the games

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and the goals. Sometimes I don't run goals. I'll just

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run games because I do take privates now and I

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didn't previously. The other site is it's a premium site,

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so it's all privates, or like group shows, you can

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tip four certain things in like just the chat area.

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It's always been conversation. If you come in and you

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just sit and you lurk and you're a registered user,

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especially if it's a name I recognize, I will call

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you out and say hi because I want you to

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come talk. I'm not doing it to be mean. I

481
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do it because I want the interaction. If you come

482
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,880
in my room and you recognize me, that's probably like

483
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:55,640
still I get that like super giddy, stupid new girl

484
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,440
like excitement over it. When people come into my cameroom

485
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,880
and are like, oh my gosh, I know you from this.

486
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,279
I absolutely love your work, and especial if it's one

487
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:05,680
of the ones that I like shot a bunch for

488
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,160
and like, I still get really excited when people do

489
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,000
that because it still doesn't it doesn't happen all the time,

490
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,839
but when it does, if they're just like, oh my gosh,

491
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,559
I love your work, I do make I'm like, Okay,

492
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:19,400
well what do you know me from? Like do you

493
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,240
just know me from like the clips on like the

494
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:24,519
hub and whatnot, or like do you actually know my

495
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,559
know me from a site? And so I'm always curious

496
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,200
where they know me from. Do they know me from

497
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,960
this or that? Or is it someoney who's come over

498
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,799
from a different site. And so if you come in

499
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:40,240
my room and you know me, absolutely feel free to say, hey,

500
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:41,559
I love your work, or I know you from this

501
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:45,000
or or I got your link from this, and let

502
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,799
me know because I love to find out where people

503
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:51,039
have heard about me and that I very much appreciate

504
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:55,319
my fans. I've always had a deep love for the

505
00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:57,599
appreciation you guys have for us in the support. It

506
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,960
means a whole lot more to us, I think then

507
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,720
a lot of people realize and getting to have that

508
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,839
connection in my room is always super fun. If you don't,

509
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,920
I understand not everybody has money to spend. So I'm

510
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,559
totally willing to have people come in, chat, hang out,

511
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:18,880
feel free. Just don't demand and just if I get

512
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,400
pulled into shows, I will come back. Usually unless there's

513
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,720
an issue with something or I'm gone forever, but I

514
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,039
come back. I hang out, People come back in the room,

515
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,680
we start chatting again, having fun. It's super chilled, down

516
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,480
to earth and everyone says, I love how how really

517
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,000
you are, how down to earth you are, and just

518
00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:40,920
how like chillier room is. That's where they get the

519
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,039
most because that I am still the all American girl

520
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:48,160
next door vibes across everything. That's never going to change.

521
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,480
I may have a few crazy brain days where we're

522
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,599
kind of squirreling all over the place, but we've reeled

523
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:57,599
those in a little bit more.

524
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: You said something there that was exciting. I love. It's

525
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,200
that half a second I get of excitement when you

526
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,960
go on a camsite and you see a name, like

527
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:11,799
a name you have seen before, or a face and

528
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:14,480
you're like, that's a porn That's not just some pretty

529
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,039
girl from Portland who's camming over there. That is a

530
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,519
name so I can't imagine the excitement of anyone who

531
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,400
really now, I can't imagine it. I just explained why

532
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,720
I can imagine it. I'm stupid, but I can imagine

533
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,680
that excitement of like, oh my god, it's Ellie Murphy.

534
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,799
I've watched her scenes before, I've done whatever and jumping in.

535
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,240
But then it's nice to hear that you keep them engaged,

536
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:40,599
because you are becoming a big enough name where you

537
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,880
could probably sit there topless on your phone and still

538
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,039
collect some tips if you want it to. But that's

539
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:49,759
not you. You, like you said, you appreciate the fans,

540
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,720
You appreciate the community, and I think that's awesome to

541
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,039
see from the outside. I think it's very very cool,

542
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:57,480
and I can very much respect and appreciate that.

543
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: And when Dady's come out, keyboards get law.

544
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,759
Speaker 1: That's a fair point, all right. I have a couple

545
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,240
about some shoots you did, a couple questions and a

546
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,440
couple interests in it, up to the point I'm about

547
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,200
to reference you mostly shot. I don't I don't mean

548
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,359
this in a negative way at all because it's relative

549
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,319
to what I'm gonna point out, but you mostly shot,

550
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:24,880
like tame content boy, girl or girl you know anything

551
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,359
like that. What got in your head when you decided

552
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,000
you wanted to shoot with the Asiani sites, the Gang Bang,

553
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:35,400
Cream Pie, Glory Whole Secrets and Cream Pile oled I

554
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:41,079
believe all appropriately named by the way, Uh what what

555
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,759
was was that? Like rent is due? Or were you

556
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,400
like I need to expand my horizons and try something new?

557
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: None of the above. Actually, when the opportunity was presented me, first,

558
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:59,279
I was not gonna lie slightly terrified because my first

559
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,640
shoot for Game CREAMPI was my third shoot in the industry.

560
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,440
That was the third shoot my agency presented to me.

561
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,839
So part of me was like, oh my god, if

562
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,799
I don't do this, are they not going to get

563
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:11,720
me work? Like are they trying to see like how

564
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,200
serious I am? And at the same time, I was like,

565
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,079
I don't know if I can actually go do this

566
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:23,279
because that's a lot of things to pay attention to

567
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:27,519
and I'd only ever been with like one person at

568
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,480
a time before that shoot, so like it was a lot.

569
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,640
But thankfully they If it had been another side, I

570
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,079
don't know if I would have been able would have

571
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,440
accepted the shoot simply because I know the way that

572
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,039
they shoot things is much more relaxed and it's all

573
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:48,720
centered on the girl having a good time, and so

574
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,200
that's what the guys are most focused on, and so

575
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:55,079
that was a comfort knowing that ahead of time and

576
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:59,799
their talent. Liaison is a phenomenal person and she's a

577
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:02,400
lot I learned so many things from her during that

578
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,599
for shoot, like tips and tricks that I've used since then,

579
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,799
and I've asked her. She's like, if you have any questions,

580
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,240
just ask, because like she was surprised that it was

581
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,119
my third shoot and I was still trying to figure

582
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:14,799
out what I'm doing with paperwork and what I'm doing

583
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,160
with wardrobe and what I need to do for this

584
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,079
that or the other, and I'm like, I don't know

585
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:23,680
what I'm doing. I've not really done this for very long,

586
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,000
and so explaining everything to me was super helpful, and

587
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,680
like it was definitely one of those Okay, we're jumping

588
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,319
in the deep bend here, but it's gonna be okay.

589
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,759
And I've met a few of the people before, so

590
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:36,079
I knew I was okay.

591
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:41,799
Speaker 1: If we were doing a body count prior just industry

592
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:45,240
wise body counts. So you went one and then two

593
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:48,759
up to what seven something like that after your third shoot?

594
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:57,599
Speaker 2: Oh, so it would have been one two, bob.

595
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I think there's four of the first's therefore, okay,

596
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,279
all right, so it the four or five?

597
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:05,039
Speaker 2: I can't remember. There might have been five to first time.

598
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,640
I mean once you had four guys, one shoot was

599
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,599
five guys, and I don't remember which you switch right now?

600
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:12,079
Speaker 1: I heard that wrong For a second. I thought you

601
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:15,079
were saying, once you've had four guys, you have five guys?

602
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:17,720
Nothing really changes? Does anything change when you go from

603
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,799
four guys to five guys?

604
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? One person gets left out? Okay, you only have

605
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:24,960
two hands in. I mean you've only got four places. Well,

606
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:26,759
unless you do anyal you've only got four places to

607
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:31,160
what things. So somebody's got to be kind of standing

608
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,319
out on the sideline that there's if there's five, because

609
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:34,519
you can only rotate so much.

610
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: But I actually.

611
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,519
Speaker 2: Not a lot.

612
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:42,359
Speaker 1: I see. I've asked that question before and the answer

613
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,839
I've gotten. How many people make a gang bang? And

614
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,200
you've done it now? So you would officially say four

615
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:51,799
what qualified male performers? I apologize? What would you say

616
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,279
per female? How many guys to qualify as a gang bang?

617
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:03,079
Speaker 2: I would say three could count two because it's I mean,

618
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,599
I guess it depends on whether you qualify anything over

619
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,199
one as like ganging up. But I feel like two

620
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,639
is still like three since its own thing. Sure, so

621
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,239
once it's like three on one or more, I would

622
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,440
say that would that would qualify at least in some form.

623
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,880
I definitely four and up. You're you're very much on

624
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:29,159
your own tag teamed and you're kind of a lot

625
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:29,880
to figure out on.

626
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: Your own, totally fair. Uh, how do you decompress from

627
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,800
a scene like that? Like what do you do? You

628
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,840
just have to like sit on a bag of peas?

629
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:43,760
Or like, like, how do you frozen piece? Obviously not

630
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,079
cooked ones? You may cook them, I don't know, But

631
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:48,719
how do you how do you come down from a

632
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,800
scene like that? Or are you jacked at the end

633
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,159
of it? Are you excited and like ready to go

634
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:53,639
for more?

635
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:56,039
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like a warm bath would be

636
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:58,239
a little more depressing the bag of frozen piece, But

637
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:05,000
it depends on the scene. I was very much just

638
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,320
like I need to sit down because I was very

639
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,320
much out of breath. My legs were shaking, and I'm

640
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,000
just like I need a moment. But I was also

641
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,000
like super pumped because I was like, I was excited that.

642
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:21,639
I mean, it's through. I did the scene. It's a

643
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:25,719
huge thing. That's what a lot of people nine times

644
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,199
out of ten until like recently now it's like seven

645
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,280
times out of ten when people come in and say

646
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,000
they know me from something or they've seen my work,

647
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,280
that's what they've seen my gangings. Sure, the first one

648
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,000
or the second one, that's what they know me from.

649
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,719
And I'm kind of surprised I haven't done a lot

650
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,760
more are content because of that, because I know the

651
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,079
color contrast is a huge thing. I have several fans

652
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:56,800
that are really from that side, that fandom area, and

653
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:00,400
like they're always trying to push me to more. And

654
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:06,159
I actually one that wants me to shoot for Vixen

655
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,920
and Black, like a lot of people have mentioned that

656
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,119
they want me to do, and he actually went and

657
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:13,039
signed up for their website just so that he could

658
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:17,360
recommend me. And I think he may have been the

659
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,039
one that actually pushed it over the edge to finally

660
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:21,840
get into contact that hey, we want to set up

661
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:28,239
a ghostie And so it's it's a big deal to

662
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:30,639
have fans that are like, hey, this is what like,

663
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,679
And actually we went a false through and like, hey, company,

664
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,800
I want I want to see you shoot this person.

665
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,000
Because you can come to me and say it, I

666
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,400
can't do anything about it ninety percent of the time. Guys,

667
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:42,760
I know you don't realize that, but just telling us

668
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,159
doesn't do anything. We aren't the ones that are like

669
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,199
we can go to the company be like hey, I'd

670
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:49,039
love to shoot for you, but we can't be like

671
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,639
I want to shoot for you with this person for

672
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,559
this type of scene, Like the company has to present

673
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:57,119
that to us and a lot of fans don't necessarily

674
00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:00,440
get that part. And so like that was super cool

675
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,800
when he's like, hey, I recommend to you and I

676
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,039
got an email back said they got it. So it

677
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:09,039
was like super exciting, and so the whole thing like

678
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:13,079
it's exciting and super excited after, but also the same time,

679
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:17,440
my body's like for me, it's like I'm tired, I'm

680
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,079
going to sit.

681
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,079
Speaker 1: So you may not see yourself as like, you know,

682
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:26,400
ten years from Ellie Murphy Ultimate gang Bang Girl, you'd

683
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,239
just be a girl with a few great gang bang

684
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,320
scenes on your resume.

685
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:36,199
Speaker 2: Probably I don't that's not like my my favorite forte

686
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,239
if I had to pot like a category. But I'm

687
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,079
not opposed to doing them. I just prefer I guess

688
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:49,440
it depends on the style of the shoot. The like

689
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:53,800
rougher gang bangs are not so much my thing or

690
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,280
my interest as like the more let's all have fun

691
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,679
and like we're all enjoying it, and it's more of

692
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:06,239
like higher energy, just fun, interactive atmosphere. Does that make sense?

693
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah it does. No, No, it totally does. I use

694
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,079
them as my reference point when I always talk about

695
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,920
there are three tiers to me of porn, and it's

696
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:19,880
not about it's not about whether or not it's good

697
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,000
porn or whatever. It's more about quality. So for me,

698
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:27,000
the top is your biggest name things with your vixens

699
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:29,880
and whatever else, with a beautiful you know, background and

700
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:33,679
uh fucking whatever. I don't know, I forget what they're going.

701
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,519
Cinematics stuff, Yeah, beautiful cinematography shots and yeah, cinematic stuff.

702
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,559
Then you have the bottom tier, which is like you

703
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:44,599
watch a guy fuck his girlfriend and you go, I

704
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:46,760
don't think you have the rights to Metallica and that

705
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,679
shouldn't be playing in the background, but I can still

706
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,800
enjoy this here. Then you have like the middle tier.

707
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,280
And I always use those sites as like the middle tier.

708
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,400
You're asiani And again, it's not that they're not high quality.

709
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,400
They're great quality.

710
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,519
Speaker 2: They're a lot better than they were.

711
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, sure, but they they it's it's they don't

712
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,000
they don't do the cinematic thing as much. Still beautiful cameras, quality,

713
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:11,239
all of that shit. But I love that it's we're

714
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,239
just getting right into it. We're going to talk to

715
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,599
the performer and then we're going to jump right into it.

716
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,000
And you're right. Everyone I see on those sites always

717
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,159
seems like they're having a good time. There's never a

718
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,199
second of like, ugh this, I'm doing this just because

719
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:27,079
I'm doing this. So yeah, it's good to hear that

720
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:29,800
they're nice behind the scenes as well, because you hear

721
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,519
horror stories sometimes.

722
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, there definitely can be, especially some a couple

723
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,440
of the sites.

724
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but well, I'm gonna mention it. Go ahead, sorry,

725
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,000
go ahead with.

726
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: The content goal. I think it's funny though, because like

727
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,199
if you look even just back like in twenty twenty,

728
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,960
if you look at the content that a lot of

729
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,239
people were printing out because most of it had to

730
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,840
be home shot, because of COVID, the quality of content

731
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,960
the creators and otherwise has like exponentially increased as far

732
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:03,360
camera quality, because everyone's realizing, oh, either we need to

733
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,320
shoot on we're gonna shoot on cameras has to be

734
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,639
like the newest camera with the phone with the highest

735
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,840
quality camera, or we need to use actual cameras to

736
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,679
shoot and so like, just the content quality in that

737
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,320
aspect has exponentially increased since like I started, And it's

738
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,639
really funny to look back, even if some of my

739
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:26,719
stuff back then and I'm like, no, I didn't quite

740
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,039
do that right, But I had a lot of tech

741
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:28,960
issues at the start.

742
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,639
Speaker 1: As much as I hate zoom, I've learned how to

743
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,320
use it more because I had so much time doing

744
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,519
whatever to make the quality look better. And then I'll

745
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:40,639
upscale it later and this and that. If you go

746
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,599
back to some of the original podcasts, it's like one

747
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,400
audio feed and I tried to level it as best

748
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,239
as I can, and you're just like, oh fuck, they

749
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,760
just don't even don't even listen to that. So I

750
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,719
get it, and it is a good thing. Is it

751
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,079
positive for the end? You know? We always say how

752
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:00,920
OnlyFans has been so positive for performers by the way

753
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,639
at Ellie Murphy In case you're wondering, is it negative

754
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,239
in any way in the sense that if you can't

755
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:14,599
get your own personal brand stuff going, is it gonna limit?

756
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,639
Like if I was a performer and I'm a good

757
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:19,679
looking girl, I don't necessarily love the social media thing.

758
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,039
I'm not great at it. I try. Could it hurt

759
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:24,719
me if I go? I only want to be an

760
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,679
OnlyFans performer. I don't want to get my name out

761
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,320
anywhere other than the only fans community. Or do you

762
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,519
think it's big enough where that could sustain a career

763
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:34,239
At this point.

764
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,679
Speaker 2: There are definitely people who do strictly only fans and

765
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,559
make quite a bit from it. If you are trying

766
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:44,679
to do more than just OnlyFans and you are not

767
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,199
good at the social media aspect, or you also are

768
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:52,280
not good at the consistency of posting content thing, then

769
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,239
it's going to be a struggle. Because that's that's been

770
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,599
my biggest thing with all the content stuff, is trying

771
00:41:57,639 --> 00:42:04,000
to juggle Camving life and content. I may have content

772
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,760
posts and then like something happens and then I'm like,

773
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,920
I haven't posted for a month. Oops, Like the consistency

774
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440
for me has been the struggle there, and so like,

775
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,519
if that's your sole focus is like one website, that's

776
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:20,559
where all your work is going, that's where all your

777
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:24,239
energy is going, then yeah, absolutely it can be a career.

778
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,800
It sustainer if you can get it going, you have

779
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,519
the right branding and you're right type of content. Absolutely,

780
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:36,760
if you're trying to put things in too many baskets,

781
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,280
it can be a struggle on every platform.

782
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: I want to do a thing on here that I

783
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,800
call stat check, So I use the Internet Adult Film Database,

784
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,199
which is totally off and wrong. It's going to give

785
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,400
you numbers that don't include this and that and whatever else.

786
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,800
But I feel like it's a nice benchmark so that

787
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,719
a year from now, when you come on and you're like,

788
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,480
so I have all these AVAN awards now and I'm

789
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:01,519
a super we can be like, oh my god, Ellie,

790
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:03,519
remember back in the day when you blah blah blah

791
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:07,000
blah blah. The amount of scenes you've worked with, according

792
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,039
to the Internet Adult Film Database is forty two scenes.

793
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,440
The amount of male performers you've worked with eighteen. Female

794
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,880
performers you've worked with fifteen. No tell me if I'm

795
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,800
wrong on this. No direct nominations for av and awards, right.

796
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: I would say I could check those dads.

797
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,599
Speaker 1: In and see. One time I was interviewing a female performer, uh,

798
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:33,320
Wendy Rain, and I gave those numbers, and I told her,

799
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,440
I go, those numbers are totally wrong. Don't sweat it.

800
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,800
Don't sweat it. They're wrong. We're just going to use

801
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,360
it as a metric. And she goes, I can pull

802
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,719
them up right here, and she had her spreadsheet and

803
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,440
she went through each guy she's worked with, each scene.

804
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:49,199
How yeah, mine's on paper. You don't. You don't have to.

805
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,920
I appreciate it very much.

806
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,599
Speaker 2: But it was like, actually I could because I have

807
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,360
my notebook over there that I i'd write everything down,

808
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,320
and I would say, I know that's not entirely accurate,

809
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:03,639
because I know there's scenes that haven't been released, so

810
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:10,039
there's and there's I think six of those on IFD

811
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:13,920
are all from the same shoot. I think there's like

812
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,639
six of them from the Gang Bang shoots because if

813
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,920
there's compilations and things in there, so there are a

814
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,400
couple repeats, but it's probably pretty close. I know they

815
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,519
have I haven't checked recently to see what the last

816
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:31,159
scene that they had posted was. But that's probably pretty accurate.

817
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:36,760
It's a little bit higher on I know female count

818
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,920
is higher, and like I said, depending on what the

819
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:44,840
last scene was, male counts probably pretty close.

820
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: Sure.

821
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 2: Sure, so I have but not too bad and the Yeah,

822
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,800
a lot of us do keep our own stats or

823
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:57,119
records at least of like what shoots we've done, just

824
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,599
for our own fun. I don't have any direct like

825
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,400
per former like specific nominations and aspect like performer categories

826
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,199
you perform the or anything like that. Sure, I do

827
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,159
have a I have a scene that got an xim

828
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:16,639
A nomination with Lauren Phillips and Sophia Locke and Ryan Key.

829
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,320
We got a nomination for an XMA Award for that one.

830
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:28,199
And then I have a no, I'm in a nomination

831
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:34,960
for the Age the All Girl. What was it? It's

832
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:40,000
like older younger category best Video for girlfriend films, and

833
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,960
so that that scene up we did got nominated for

834
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,440
that category. So I'm still pretty excited a thought, because

835
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,159
it's still my first nominations for both and so the

836
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,480
fact that I've missed it so close last year, I

837
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:56,519
was like on one of the girlfriend Films. When we

838
00:45:56,559 --> 00:45:59,519
were the it was the second scene that got nominated,

839
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:01,840
and we were the first from that series, so like

840
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,880
we were close and then as you regot one. So

841
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,960
it's pretty exciting just to like hit that level of saying, hey,

842
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:10,760
I've been part of something that's been nominated that I

843
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,599
mean to me, that's enough. Even if I never get

844
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,800
a solo about nomination, that's enough for me to be like, hey,

845
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,880
I've been a part of this. Sure, And there's several

846
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,360
companies that I've worked really closely with and I'm like,

847
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:23,320
you've been nominated. I feel proud because I've been a

848
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,079
part of that too, And so like it's an exciting

849
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:28,480
thing for me to just see, like, hey, my friends

850
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:31,039
have been nominated. I've been part of that thing that's

851
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:32,880
been nominated. And I don't care if I get a

852
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,800
specific nomination or not. I know some people that's a

853
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,119
huge thing, but I'm like I've been a part of it,

854
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,079
so that the counts.

855
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: The recognition is nice, right, that work you did, people

856
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,480
are recognizing it as a good thing. Like I have

857
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:49,760
a nomination. I have no illusions I'm gonna beat Plug

858
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,760
Talk or any of the other big name podcasts but

859
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,199
it feels good that I had at least one fan

860
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,599
out there who went, hey, this guy, Hey that, So

861
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,480
you have people out there who went y. Lauren Phillips

862
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:04,280
is great in this Elly Murphy though, really nailed it.

863
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,599
I love this scene, you know, however, it went yeah,

864
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,559
last question, because we're running out of time here. Unfortunately,

865
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:13,360
I could talk to you all day. But last question.

866
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,280
And this is an odd one, and I just use

867
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,480
it as a measuring stick. I make no judgment on

868
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:20,599
it whatsoever. I find it interesting to hear performers who

869
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:23,960
work in the industry and their input on this. What

870
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:29,000
should the and the responses have totally surprised me. That's

871
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:32,400
why I ask it, now, what is the age that

872
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,400
performers should be able to get into the industry?

873
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,039
Speaker 2: I agree with what I feel like the consensus is

874
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:46,239
going towards now is kind of what I've always thought is. Honestly,

875
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,320
I think that the age to join the industry should

876
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,519
be twenty one, partially for the performer's sake, because there

877
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:55,480
are a lot of industry parties and things that happen,

878
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,760
and attending those without being able to drink can be

879
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,679
a challenge. Some people for not getting themselves in trouble.

880
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:06,920
And also just because when you're fresh out of high school,

881
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:10,400
ninety nine percent of people have been living in their

882
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,920
parents' house. They've not been out on their own how

883
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,679
to take care of themselves, how to place with their

884
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,039
own yet, and that even just too even just a

885
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:21,840
year or two of experience on your own taking care

886
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,840
of yourself where you have to be able to be

887
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,679
an adult at least somewhat, is I think needed before

888
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,440
getting into the industry, because there's so much you don't

889
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,119
know and so much that you don't realize you don't

890
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:39,639
know at eighteen, as far as like life and like, oh, hey,

891
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:41,480
I'm going to have bills, I'm going to have things.

892
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:42,719
I have to make sure that I'm doing. I have

893
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,360
to be able to get myself to scenes, I have

894
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,199
to be able to make sure I'm tested, I have

895
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,199
to do all this, that and the other. And so

896
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,599
having that couple of years to kind of figure out

897
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,679
how to be able to adult, how to be yourself,

898
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,719
and who you really are becoming, I think is extremely

899
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,840
important when getting into the end of Street because I've

900
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,800
heard from a lot of girls started at eighteen they

901
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,840
wish they hadn't started at eighteen they had waited.

902
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,079
Speaker 1: And that's what I've heard too. And then, but now

903
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,239
let me throw the Devil's advocate anecdotal everything. You know,

904
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,400
girl gets kicked out of her house at sixteen, lives

905
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,039
on the streets for a couple of years till she

906
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,360
gets to eighteen. She wants to do sex work, she

907
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,400
wants to engage in this. That's the thing you'll hear.

908
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,000
You'll also hear something like, well, I know, and I've

909
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:26,079
said this. I've met eighteen year olds who are a

910
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:29,360
thousand times mature than me or some forty year olds

911
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,639
i've interviewed, So putting an age on things is tough.

912
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,159
We thought a nice consent because I agree with you

913
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,519
twenty one. And from performers who started at eighteen like

914
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:41,400
you just said, who I've interviewed, they all go twenty one.

915
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:45,280
What if you just did from eighteen to twenty one?

916
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,280
Since and again, I always use this stupid example too.

917
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,360
If you can go fight in a war at eighteen,

918
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:54,039
I don't know why you can't have sex at eighteen,

919
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:55,559
but I get it.

920
00:49:56,639 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: What is it at eighteen?

921
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one. The parties is a

922
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,440
great reference. I'd never heard before. No one's ever brought

923
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,880
that up, So that really nailed it for me even more.

924
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,360
What about from eighteen to twenty one, you can do

925
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,639
INDI you could do solo content on your own OnlyFans

926
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,039
or whoever else will allow you to upload only solo content.

927
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,440
You can't do any boy girl stuff. Three years of

928
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:27,840
learning the industry, learning social media stuff like that, then

929
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,679
at twenty one, okay, you're good to go. You can

930
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,880
start shooting for major companies or whatever else. You can't

931
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,480
shoot for anyone except for yourself from eighteen to twenty one.

932
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,280
That's kind of like a compromise we worked on.

933
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:45,119
Speaker 2: There's been I've been part We've had discussions of something

934
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,599
similar to that, not quite so restrictive, but something similar.

935
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,360
We're like the girls that are eighteen to twenty one,

936
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,280
or whether you're just coming in, if you're not necessarily

937
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,400
have an idea of how to be on your own

938
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,719
or doing your own thing. If you are coming in

939
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,320
eighteen to twenty one, say we'll focus on that, having

940
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,079
it be where those girls that need a little more

941
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:13,320
guidance will have like, okay, that's where you'll have like

942
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:16,960
a model you maybe have a model house where you

943
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,280
have an agency specifically focused on those girls and helping

944
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,760
them learn how to do things, not focused on anything

945
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:26,920
like exploring them to do as many shoots as possible.

946
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,639
But okay, these are the pitfalls. These are the things

947
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:32,960
you need to know. This is what you need to

948
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,800
be aware of and think of before you extra start. Okay,

949
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,599
now that we've gone over to this whole thing, we've

950
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:41,360
done some solo stuff, maybe do some stuff with some

951
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,199
other new models that are coming in. They're all right

952
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:46,840
in the same category that goes on a pay site

953
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,079
only doesn't get posted to social media. So if you

954
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do decide okay, maybe this isn't for me, you still

955
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,559
haven't easy enough out that you haven't now you cause

956
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second you do a big studio, you now have pourn

957
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out there forever and you can't get that taken down.

958
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If it's on a paceset you control, you can remove

959
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:10,519
that a lot easier and kind of giving them that Okay,

960
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here's a taste of what it's going to be like.

961
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Are you still wanting to do this? Okay, let's go

962
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a little bit bigger and then okay, now that now

963
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you can really jump in, Now that you can attend

964
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all the events. You can attend all the events and

965
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do all the extra activities, you can be with all

966
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the big performers because you know how to handle it

967
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now and it's not going to overwhelm you. Because there's

968
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a lot of models too who will get a bunch

969
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of shoots and then all of a sudden they have

970
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:37,320
all this money and they blow it and then they

971
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,880
can't pay rent because they went and bought a new

972
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car and have a seven thousand dollars car payment or

973
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something like. It's it's one of those that I think

974
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he needs to be focused on more taking care of

975
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the younger models that don't know what they're doing or

976
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have guidance outside of like the agency or people representing them.

977
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Then necessarily an age specific thing other than the events aspect.

978
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Speaker 1: Gotcha, you got to go to Pornstar Academy. That's what

979
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it sounds like, learn how to do it.

980
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Speaker 2: Similar. Yeah, there's people have tried to make series and

981
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things on it, and it's like the real aspect of

982
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,239
it isn't not as exciting as you see in the

983
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scenes and stuff. It's like you're you'd be going to

984
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school for like a week to learn all the the

985
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:26,519
basics you don't want to learn how to but you

986
00:53:26,519 --> 00:53:29,480
have to know for taxes and your W two not

987
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,840
being W two you're ten ninety nine, and how all

988
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,480
that works and what all that means, and the things

989
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,880
that really they don't teach us that they should teach us,

990
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:40,440
you know, and how to self be aware and like

991
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:43,239
defend you, like stand up for yourself if you need

992
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,880
you that you can because they don't push that either,

993
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:48,599
the fact that you can stand up for yourself if

994
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:51,400
something happens and you don't like say something, stop it

995
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,159
before it happens.

996
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I teaching girls boundaries and all kinds of stuff

997
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,760
like that, like you know, and that your boundaries are acceptable. Yes,

998
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all right, Ellie Murphy my guest for the evening. I

999
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again will say this once again, I have no impact

1000
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on your career whatsoever, but I am so proud seeing

1001
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,440
you stay with this and grow and understand the industry.

1002
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And I am going to recommend people go exactly where

1003
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,599
you think you should go and check out Ellie Murphy

1004
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:24,039
at Ellie Murphy on social media. I believe it's the

1005
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Ellie Murphy. I'll plug that one right, yes, yeah, okay,

1006
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also on.

1007
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Speaker 2: One of the sites. And then I would site also

1008
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will have all things so for sure.

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Speaker 1: Ellie Murphy, thank you so much for coming on with

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me tonight and congratulations on your blossoming career.

1011
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Speaker 2: Thank you for having MED