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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Diay Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Thursday edition our show abbreviated Tonight for UK

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<v Speaker 1>women's basketball, the Wildcats taking on the Texas Longhorns at

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<v Speaker 1>Historic Memorial Coliseum. Darren Hedrick will have the call for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Was pregame coming up at six forty five at Kenny

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks and then the tip off minute or two after

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<v Speaker 1>seven o'clock Cats and Longhorns Historic Memorial Coliseum, an historic game,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas playing as a member of the SEC for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time here in Lexington, and it's a huge game

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<v Speaker 1>as the Wildcats are trying to bounce back from that

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<v Speaker 1>puzzling loss down at Ole Miss when they just got

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<v Speaker 1>hammered on the board, didn't play nearly enough physical basketball

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<v Speaker 1>to hold off the Rebels. Kentucky Blue big lead early

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<v Speaker 1>and just could not make plays when it had to.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what kind of adjustments and changes that

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Brooks's team will have made, and we'll have it

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<v Speaker 1>for you right here as Darren has the call coming

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<v Speaker 1>up very shortly. But the UK men of course play

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<v Speaker 1>at Texas on Saturday. Another one you'll hear right here

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<v Speaker 1>on six thirty wlap, Tom and jack will have it

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Kentucky beats Tennessee despite not having Jackson Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a huge game against the Balls down in Knoxville.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know how good Tennessee is defensively, one of,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the best, in the country. And yet the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats and Jackson wasn't the only one. But the Cats

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<v Speaker 1>had a great game offensively down there and made enough

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<v Speaker 1>stops to win the game. So coming back this week,

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered, minus Jackson Robinson but with Lamont Butler, could

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats beat Tennessee. I would not have been surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if Kentucky had lost that game. Tennessee is just really good.

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<v Speaker 1>And when Tennessee caught up and had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>catch up, you might recall, but you know, Kentucky took

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<v Speaker 1>the early lead and it was, you know, a four

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<v Speaker 1>to six eight point game, back and forth, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee got close, and I think three times missed an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to tie the game or take the lead. But

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<v Speaker 1>finally it did. And when it did, I thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think who was it? Chris Fisher, I think

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<v Speaker 1>of two four to seven Sports tweeted that he was

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<v Speaker 1>impressed because oftentimes when a team surrenders a lead, it

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of and I'm paraphrasing, now's my term. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go with the rope a little bit, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>team that caught up just kind of moves off, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>eases a way to victory. I wondered if that would

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<v Speaker 1>happen with this Kentucky team, but it did not, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And in fact, Kentucky was down sixty to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight with a ball and I said to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>they have got to score. I think they were like

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half minutes left, and I thought, they

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<v Speaker 1>have got to score here. Because as they give up

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<v Speaker 1>a bucket at the other end, tennessee me get away

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<v Speaker 1>from him and Kobe Bray comes down and drains a three,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, with somebody in his grill. And then later

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<v Speaker 1>on he hits Oway with that lob dunk that really

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<v Speaker 1>sealed the game. That which is so impressive the way

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<v Speaker 1>and by now they had lost Lamont Butler, so Oway

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<v Speaker 1>was playing some point. I mean, it was so impressive

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<v Speaker 1>the way that team pulled together. And I'll go back

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk. Jack Givans is gonna join us tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that comment. That Jack made early in the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've come back to it because it's relevant so

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<v Speaker 1>often that when things aren't going perfectly for this team,

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<v Speaker 1>the players aren't all craning in their necks to see

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<v Speaker 1>what the coach wants them to do, as they did

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<v Speaker 1>in their previous management because the teams were often so young,

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<v Speaker 1>and while they had young guys on the court, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Perry, Trent Noah, the veterans on the court know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do and they and what's expected and they

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<v Speaker 1>solve the problems themselves. I'm not saying they're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>direction from Mark Pope, but they just didn't panic and

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<v Speaker 1>they made plays. And that's what's just really interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>watching this team, watching it grow, and it should be

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting in the postseason to watch them adjust on

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<v Speaker 1>the fly to learn game plans for teams they know

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about yesterday and today we got a game plan

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<v Speaker 1>for a team or playing tomorrow. That kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what happens in the nca tournament. So this team

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<v Speaker 1>is growing and maturing before our very eyes. But there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many different storylines, including Butler being damaged again

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Robinson. You know when Mark Pope used the word

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<v Speaker 1>a heartbroken after the game man. That sent a chill

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<v Speaker 1>through me. I thought, are we going to see Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson again? Are we going to see him before the tournament?

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<v Speaker 1>If at all? But Kentucky's making adjustments, finding ways to win.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think as long as they have Butler, no

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect to Robinson, they need him too. Wellout Butler, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be really tough and that Rick Barnes

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Kentucky's point guard, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really good defensively, but also he gives him that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's their best downhill driver and a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that experience been around. I think I love the way

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<v Speaker 2>he plays, you know, I really do. And he I

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<v Speaker 2>hate that he got hurt again because those shoulders, they're

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<v Speaker 2>hard to deal with this time of year, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>you're at the point where you're getting hit a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hate that for him and for them. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's a difference maker because he want his tough, hard

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<v Speaker 2>nose can't affect the game on both ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Rick Barnes, Tennessee's coach, talking about the veteran Lamont Butler,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I mentioned earlier, Kentucky getting great play from

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<v Speaker 1>the freshman Perry and Trent Noah, and I think we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see even more of that down the stretch now as

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope tries to figure out where, when, and how

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<v Speaker 1>to play these guys. And my buddy Jeff Drummond from

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<v Speaker 1>Cat's Illustrated ask Kobe Brea about, you know, the notion

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<v Speaker 1>that as of now they're not freshmen anymore, And to

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<v Speaker 1>one degree, he's right, and that they've played more basketball

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<v Speaker 1>when you factor in pick up games and practices now

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<v Speaker 1>than they ever have in their entire lives. Because then

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard so many coaches and players talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>high school to college. There's just so much more. Games

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<v Speaker 1>are longer, practices are longer. So they're reaching a point

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<v Speaker 1>and Caliperi used to talk about guys hitting the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't look like the freshmen for Kentucky are right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are still freshmen, and that they're experiencing everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And I keep saying this for the first time. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't buy well their sophomores, but no, they have

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<v Speaker 1>never experienced a stretch run to a conference tournament or

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAAA. Yeah, they've played in high school tournaments, not

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<v Speaker 1>the same. But I do like the way these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are maturing, the young guys for the Wildcats, and Brea

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the fact that they the veterans see the

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<v Speaker 1>freshman every day in practice. They see how hard they work,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's paying off.

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<v Speaker 3>For me personally, Like it's such a good feeling, just

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<v Speaker 3>like it kind of feels like watching myself a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>just because I remember, you know, being in their shoes

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<v Speaker 3>and going through those moments and having a big moment,

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<v Speaker 3>big game like that, and it's just like, like I said, man,

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<v Speaker 3>those guys they put in the work, So just to

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<v Speaker 3>see them, you know, see the word payoff, like I

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<v Speaker 3>think thing is going to give them a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>confidence and just you know, make sure that they keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>They are playing with confidence. And I thought about this

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<v Speaker 1>as much with Trent no as I did Travis Perry,

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<v Speaker 1>but watching Noah do his thing. The other day, I

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<v Speaker 1>flashed back to the State championships the week of the

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<v Speaker 1>State championships last year, the state tournament because I got

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. The baseball schedule worked out to where I

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<v Speaker 1>could go to just about every session, and I watched

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<v Speaker 1>Tren Noah make Rupperena his personal play thing, and so

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<v Speaker 1>did Travis Perry, but Noah, especially because Noah is a

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<v Speaker 1>big guy. He's somewhere between sixty six and sixty seven, legit,

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<v Speaker 1>and he carries some muscle. He's got muscle on that frame,

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<v Speaker 1>and he basically muscled his way through the Sweet sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Perry a little bit more of a finesse player, good passer,

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<v Speaker 1>good shooter, obviously great scorer, but Noah just basically imposed

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<v Speaker 1>his will on opponents. And watching him play the other night,

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<v Speaker 1>he looked so confident, relaxing at ease in Rupperena, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, why not, because yeah, he's played a

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<v Speaker 1>few games, but coming into this season, he knew that

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<v Speaker 1>playing surface, he knew that building that was home for

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<v Speaker 1>him for almost a week, and he played that way,

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<v Speaker 1>played that way against Tennessee and again, Bray and the

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<v Speaker 1>veterans love to see it. And they also loved when

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<v Speaker 1>Perry and Noah hit three pointers. The crowd reaction is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different from when the veterans they had

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<v Speaker 1>of towners might hit a three. Why not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a different energy that you know gets into the

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<v Speaker 3>arena and it's just like, rightfully, so you know he's

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<v Speaker 3>from Kentucky. I'm sure he's like rewatched his moment like

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<v Speaker 3>in his head over and over again, and just for

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<v Speaker 3>him to have that, man, it's crazy. And like you said, man,

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<v Speaker 3>like the arena gets super loud in there, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a momentum shifting for us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like he hits a shy, everybody goes wid and

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<v Speaker 3>now you gotta keep on going. So it definitely gives

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<v Speaker 3>us a lot of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you've been in reparenda this year,

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<v Speaker 1>when the ball swings around, I love the crowd reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to when it finds either Noah or Perry if they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the perimeter or Brea in what looks like could

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<v Speaker 1>be a position to shoot the basketball. The crowd because

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<v Speaker 1>the hopes rise, don't they hear the oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's gonna shoot it, you know, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>pass and it's almost like, you know, especially if there's

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity there, if the crowd fans think that they've

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<v Speaker 1>missed an open shot. But generally, if they swing the

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<v Speaker 1>ball one more time, somebody's got a better shot. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the fun for this team. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting to hear the comments from the veterans watching

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<v Speaker 1>the freshmen and they're hard work paying off. Coming up next,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna hear from a couple of the ESPN guys

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<v Speaker 1>talk about just how strong the Southeastern Conference is. That

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<v Speaker 1>has been the mantra since before the season even began,

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<v Speaker 1>not just conference play, but the entire season. It looked

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<v Speaker 1>that way and it certainly has been an incredible year

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<v Speaker 1>already for the SEC. A little bit later on, well,

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<v Speaker 1>help from another one of the members of the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>four to seventy five team who came through town this

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<v Speaker 1>past week, Mike Flynn will join us and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>his thoughts on how that team pulled together and made

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<v Speaker 1>a Final Four run and got the cast that within

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<v Speaker 1>one win him another national championship. So that's coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll make way for UK basketball here on

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up Saturday, the Wildcats taking on Texas down in

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<v Speaker 1>Austin the game you will hear right here on six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP. Kentucky will not win the SEC championship. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that the regular season could win the SEC tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things I will not miss about

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<v Speaker 1>John Caliperi and Arkansas people will have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>this as well. His whining about the SEC tournament. And

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<v Speaker 1>you recall every time Can Chucky would go into a tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when the Cats were favored to win it, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if we win it or not. Look, you

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<v Speaker 1>move the championship game to Saturday. So maybe maybe winning

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, bracketed by Friday. We've been told this

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<v Speaker 1>bring in eyeballs, all that stuff. I'd be fine if

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<v Speaker 1>why the smaller conferences like them. They're one shot at

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<v Speaker 1>being on ESPN. But right now, teams are playing for

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<v Speaker 1>the bracketing, especially when they are buys involved or double

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<v Speaker 1>every game they can. And you know, the Wildcats are

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<v Speaker 1>on the show and preview that game you heard him

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<v Speaker 1>on with Tom Leech earlier today. But I have other

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<v Speaker 1>to be Tennessee. So that'll be on tomorrow night's show.

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<v Speaker 1>But tonight we've got comments that we borrowed from ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>but kyral Ravitsch and Jay Billis appeared on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course you see them on coverage of SEC basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>They talked about Lenardi's bracketology that actually was updated last

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<v Speaker 1>on February eleventh. All right, that was two days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was prior to Kentucky's win over Tennessee, and

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<v Speaker 1>prior to the Balls losing that game, they were a

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<v Speaker 1>one seed. Might still be for all I know according

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe Lonardi. But in the latest brackets that Leonardi

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<v Speaker 1>had put out three SEC teams or one seeds Alabama, Auburn,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tennessee. Maybe that changes after this weekend when Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>happen on Selection Sunday, and even if those one of

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<v Speaker 1>those two teams obviously will lose, but they may end

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<v Speaker 1>up still in a few weeks being a one sea.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my Tennessee as one of, if not the

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<v Speaker 1>best defensive team in the country. You know, Tennessee's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a tough out, But just watching that team

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<v Speaker 1>struggle to score against Kentucky and making bad decisions against

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<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky team, it's okay defensively, but not one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best in the country by any means, And according

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<v Speaker 1>to the latest Ken Pom, in the low eighties. Now

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to defense, I just would not take

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee as a one seed right now, but you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>The walls may jump up in surprise es. But Ravits

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<v Speaker 1>and Billis both talked about how relatively strong the Southeastern

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<v Speaker 1>Conference is this season, and it's something that everybody who's

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I don't think we've seen anything like it in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of depth, in terms of quality, depth and national

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<v Speaker 4>championship contenders. Now, those three teams that are on the

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<v Speaker 4>one line right now are three that I think could win.

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<v Speaker 1>The national championship.

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<v Speaker 4>The others are all good teams, are capable of upsetting

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<v Speaker 5>Of making deep runs.

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<v Speaker 4>But all of them to me, other than Auburn, Alabama,

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<v Speaker 4>and Florida have some offensive liabilities and can go in

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<v Speaker 4>offington wells. I think it hurt them, you know, over

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<v Speaker 4>the course of a long tournament. But I think the

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<v Speaker 4>really as good, if not better than anything we've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay you.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's the best basketball conference top to bottom relative

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<v Speaker 6>to the field that we have ever seen. They put

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<v Speaker 6>up numbers that compare favorably to the mid eighties and

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<v Speaker 6>the ACC. But people forget the ACC had eight teams

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<v Speaker 6>back then. It's a lot easier to have eight good

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<v Speaker 6>been remarkable now. But that doesn't mean that Houston or

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<v Speaker 6>Duke can't win the national championship.

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<v Speaker 7>Nobody's saying that, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, because the SEC is the best conference that automatically

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to have the entire Elite eight or the

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<v Speaker 6>entire Final four. That's not what anybody's saying. But no

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<v Speaker 6>other league can match what the SEC has done this year,

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<v Speaker 6>and historically it matches what any other league has done. Ever,

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's the most powerful league top to bottom

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<v Speaker 3>To the field.

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<v Speaker 1>And again that's courtesy of ESPN's Get Up program from

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. I give Ravas credit. He took the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. He was another guy who went on

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<v Speaker 1>the air and was kind of knocking the notion that

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC was so strong because he quoted a number

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<v Speaker 1>of games that SEC teams had played in total, and

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<v Speaker 1>then remarked about how the overall record for SEC teams

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<v Speaker 1>was exactly five hundred. Well, duh, one team's gonna win

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<v Speaker 1>and one's gonna lose every night. And somebody else is

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<v Speaker 1>said that a couple of weeks ago. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>amazed me about Ravage is that somebody else had made

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<v Speaker 1>that same mistake and caught some flag for it on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, and Ravag, I guess didn't see it, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>notice because he said the same thing. But he went

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<v Speaker 1>for four hours and when he got off, he saw

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<v Speaker 1>the response to his remarks and he said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>I was wrong. He said, I'm always glad to be

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<v Speaker 1>basically I'm paraphrasing, but you know, happy to learn from

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<v Speaker 1>my mistakes, and I appreciate it. And da da da

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<v Speaker 1>da dah. But that's what amazed me the most. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else had already taken that hit, and Ravage took it

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And he never said anything, apparently to anybody else, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>sure Jay would have said, uh, yeah, that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>it works. So yeah, But I give I give Ravage

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<v Speaker 1>credit for accepting the heat. All right, when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here from another one of the members of the

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four to seventy five Kentucky team honored this past weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>the team that made it to the championship game fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, got the Wildcats to the final four, came

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<v Speaker 1>back from a really difficult season the year before, and

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<v Speaker 1>women's basketball, the Wildcats taking on those Texas longhornge. You

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<v Speaker 1>hear it right here on six point thirty WLAP. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy dan Connor, All Conference Player, academic, All American. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he told that story because I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to After that North Carolina game, Joe Hall went to

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Kyteley, went to the equipment guys, said, gimme Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Dan's trunks and he had had them so a star

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<v Speaker 1>on it that signified him as the team captain four

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<v Speaker 1>games into the season. He did that in thirty seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>In that game, Jimmy Dan scored thirty five points on

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<v Speaker 1>only twenty one shots. He was fifteen of twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>and most from the outside As I recall, that game

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the delayed telecast. Thirty five points and four

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<v Speaker 1>assists for Jimmy Dan in that game, and again Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>was fun. He ended up with one hundred and six assists.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the exact same number as Mike Flynn, his running

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<v Speaker 1>the headline being the Wildcats crashed the Final four. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Big Blue and Cider final segment of

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<v Speaker 1>our shows. We're gonna make way for Darren Heddrick pre

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<v Speaker 1>in just a few minutes. Yesterday we heard from a

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday we heard from Jimmy dan connor, the team captain,

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<v Speaker 1>not IU, and it turned out okay for him because

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Illustrated after that upset win, the headline being the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats crashed the Final four. Mike was one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite all time players, a tough, gritty guard from Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>who played for Kentucky. He was a job just like

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<v Speaker 1>team or his home state team. Had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Mike Flynn the other day. Well, Mike, what

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<v Speaker 1>does it meant to you to get back and see

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it's wonderful to come back and see all the guys.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a shame that some of them couldn't make it.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a shame that some of them have passed away.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's all been a great time and I really

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<v Speaker 1>You guys knew the ups and downs. You were conference

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<v Speaker 1>champs and then you struggled through a five hundred year,

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<v Speaker 1>but you hit the Final four. I mean, you experienced

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<v Speaker 1>it all we did.

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<v Speaker 7>We went up and down.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, first, you know, we had the undefeated freshman team,

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<v Speaker 7>And then our sophomore year we had a great year.

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<v Speaker 8>And Indiana beat us in the Elite eight game down

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<v Speaker 8>Bill Walker. But then, yeah, then our junior year was

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<v Speaker 8>our down year. We just didn't have much size. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>if Johnny Wooden wouldn't announce his retirement and.

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<v Speaker 7>We would have beat that UCLA team.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, they played a great game against this We

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<v Speaker 7>But a lot of people don't realize this.

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<v Speaker 8>Louisll had UCLA beat in the semi final game and

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<v Speaker 8>Louis will split it up, turned it over and Terry Hirer,

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<v Speaker 8>who made twenty eight free throws in a row, he

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<v Speaker 8>misses a free throw which was crucial in front of

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<v Speaker 8>end of a bonus. But yeah, we should have been

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<v Speaker 8>playing Louisville for the national title. But yeah, but we

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<v Speaker 8>had a great career. Yeah, great time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. You guys. You mentioned the super Kittens, and as

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<v Speaker 1>we said, you experienced so much in four years and

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<v Speaker 1>now that just doesn't happen anymore. I know you're excited

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<v Speaker 1>for young men to get to the league. You played

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<v Speaker 1>pro ball, but do you feel bad for them that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't get to experience the kinds of things that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys do growing together as a group.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think it's important those four years, all the

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<v Speaker 8>bonding you do with all the guys and become great friends.

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<v Speaker 8>And also you're getting an education and your college degree.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I think all of us got are degrees.

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<v Speaker 8>But I understand some of these guys that they're so

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<v Speaker 8>good and they want to get to the league and

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<v Speaker 8>start making the money. I understand that. I have no

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<v Speaker 8>problem with that. But yeah, a lot of them do

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<v Speaker 8>that nowadays. But a lot nowadays guys are getting that

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<v Speaker 8>nil money and plus the college the power of colleges

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<v Speaker 8>conference colleges, they can start paying these guys like over

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<v Speaker 8>twenty million dollars a year between the football and basketball

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<v Speaker 8>players who generate the revenue. And that's all good thing

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<v Speaker 8>because I believe that these athletes they deserve a taste,

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<v Speaker 8>they deserve a slice because they're generating the revenue and

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<v Speaker 8>they some of them should should get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it's like to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>something special in college basketball because you.

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<v Speaker 7>Played at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>You played Indiana high school ball too, But now college

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<v Speaker 1>basketball is so big now.

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<v Speaker 7>Across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your take on that that everybody now knows what

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<v Speaker 1>you guys do all along.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, basketball is not only big across the country, it's

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<v Speaker 8>big throughout the world.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's probably the it's the second the.

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<v Speaker 8>Most popular sport in the world now, of course behind soccer.

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<v Speaker 8>Soccer is still number one over in Europe and other places.

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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, it's grown so much, and some of the

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<v Speaker 8>best players in the NBA are from Europe in foreign countries.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, it's just amazing how the game has exploded. It's

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<v Speaker 7>so popular now. So yeah, I'm proud of it. That's

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<v Speaker 7>like that, it's all it's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>You played in the old ABA and then is so

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<v Speaker 1>They said more than once that the AVA seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be more popular now than it was when you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were playing. But what are your what are your memories

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<v Speaker 1>of that? Because you got to go back home and

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<v Speaker 1>play in Indiana, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Got to go.

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<v Speaker 8>I was drafted by Philly in the NBA and the

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<v Speaker 8>Pacers in the a B at the time, and I

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<v Speaker 8>felt like I had a better chance making the uh

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<v Speaker 8>Indiana Pacers, and so I went there and unfortunately I

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<v Speaker 8>made the team and I got to play one year

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<v Speaker 8>in the ABA before we merged with the NBA, and

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<v Speaker 8>you know, we had a three point shot back then, yeah, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>And back then it was like a novelithy shopping shot.

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<v Speaker 8>You might take five or six threes a game. And

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<v Speaker 8>then you look at today. You got the Celtics taking

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<v Speaker 8>fifty threes a game.

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<v Speaker 7>So that has changed tremendous. So they're better or worse. Well,

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<v Speaker 7>in some ways it's good.

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<v Speaker 8>In some ways it's bad because these analytic guys, the nerds,

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<v Speaker 8>they understand that three is.

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<v Speaker 7>Worth more than two.

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<v Speaker 8>So if you put up a lot of threes and

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<v Speaker 8>it hit a good percentage of them, it's it's a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing, depending who's taking them, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean the best shot in basketball is still the

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<v Speaker 7>dunk or layup.

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<v Speaker 8>Are getting fouled and on the free throw line, and

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<v Speaker 8>then the next best shot is a three pointer. The

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<v Speaker 8>worst shot is the long two pointer, but sometimes you

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<v Speaker 8>got to take it. Sometimes you got to take the

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<v Speaker 8>long toos.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as we speak on a Saturday, you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>honored at the game, which was great, Kentucky gets a

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<v Speaker 1>big win. What were your thoughts when one of you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>a former player got the job when Mark Pope took over,

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<v Speaker 1>because boy was a shocker when Cali Perry left.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it was a shock to everybody. But I think

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<v Speaker 8>he's the right to fit at the right time. They

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<v Speaker 8>Kentucky needed to change and he understands the modern offense

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<v Speaker 8>of shooting threes and I like the way he runs

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<v Speaker 8>it off his offense and it looked like today they

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<v Speaker 8>played better at defense.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe it was because he was playing South Carolina. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know. But a quick story about Mark Pope.

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<v Speaker 8>Remember Lynn Nance, he was our assistant coach and he

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<v Speaker 8>was the head coach out of Orshington.

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<v Speaker 7>And Mark Pope played for him. Mark sim with him,

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<v Speaker 7>that's right.

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<v Speaker 8>And before he transferred the Kentucky Lynn Nance was recruiting

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<v Speaker 8>my son BJ out of Jefferson Bill, who won the

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<v Speaker 8>Indiana state championship for senior year.

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<v Speaker 7>And he had him out there for a visit and

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<v Speaker 7>Mark Polpe was BJ's host.

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<v Speaker 1>Why he was there, that's Mike Flynn. Tomorrow will a

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<v Speaker 1>visit with Jack Gibbons about that seventy four to seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five team, But for now we'll make way for UK

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<v Speaker 1>women's basketball. Kenny Brooks Wildcats against those Texas Longhorns. Darren

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<v Speaker 1>Hedrick with a call comanov neck here on your home

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<v Speaker 1>for UK Sports six thirty wlapp.

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