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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we talked, we will talk a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>when we get into the eleven o'clock hour about what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with the US Agency for International Development. USAID

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<v Speaker 2>staffers were told to stay out of the Washington headquarters.

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<v Speaker 3>Today.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk, of course, announced that President Trump agrees with

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<v Speaker 2>him that USAID should be shut down. They said they

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<v Speaker 2>tracked more than six hundred employees reported being locked out

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<v Speaker 2>of the agency's computer system overnight. Secretary of State Marco

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<v Speaker 2>Rubio I'll get used to saying things like that soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Not yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of State Marco Rubio has confirmed that he is

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<v Speaker 2>now the acting director for USAID. He was taking questions

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<v Speaker 2>down in El Salvador. He said, USAID is not functioning.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be aligned with US policy. It needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be aligned with the national interest of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not a global charity. These are tax payer dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, there was the dragnet in Georgia. You remember

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen year old accused of shooting two students and

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of teachers at Appalachi High and Georgia. That

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<v Speaker 1>happened on September fourth. Well after that shooting, a flurry

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<v Speaker 1>of threats seemed to rise on social media, an unusual

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<v Speaker 1>number two very unusual. One of the girls involved with

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<v Speaker 1>the dragnet. Her name is Laurie. There was Laurie lying

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<v Speaker 1>in bed with her stuff juniunicorns and her Hello Kitty dolls.

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<v Speaker 1>She's in ninth grade and she thought it was a

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<v Speaker 1>funny idea. She's just sitting there board with her stuffings

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<v Speaker 1>and she opens up Instagram, puts on a hot pink

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<v Speaker 1>background and begins to type blowing the school up tomorrow. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she had forgotten about it. A few hours later one

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<v Speaker 1>of her friends is like, hey, you should probably take

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<v Speaker 1>that down.

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<v Speaker 4>It was too late.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, a little Lori, fourteen years old, was

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<v Speaker 1>put in handcuffs barely fit her risks.

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<v Speaker 4>She was charged with a felony.

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<v Speaker 1>She was taken to the Valusa County Detention Center for

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks. The day after that, another fourteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>charge for a comment on Instagram that read, if y'

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<v Speaker 1>all cry babies don't showed up, I'm gonna shoot up

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<v Speaker 1>your school. The day after that a thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>charge for a post on TikTok it said, I will

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<v Speaker 1>be shooting up Heritage Middle School and then the date.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird because when we see events like this, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not unusual to have I don't know if copycat is

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<v Speaker 2>the right word, but people playing off of the event

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<v Speaker 2>itself contagious, contagious.

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<v Speaker 1>And everything's so trendy on social media. What one does

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other people do right away?

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<v Speaker 2>The Washington Post found that at least four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy seven people were arrested in the two weeks after

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<v Speaker 2>that shooting in Georgia. That's about one hundred more than

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<v Speaker 2>in the aftermaths of the three previous mass school shootings combined.

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<v Speaker 1>Valuses elected sheriff is the guy behind this. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Mike Chitwood. He is a registered independent. He's from Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's had enough of in his opinion and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>yours too, that this is parents not raising their kids right.

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<v Speaker 2>He says that he has deployed dozens of deputies spent

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<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands of dollars in taxpayer money on this.

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<v Speaker 2>He said on a previous night his office had received

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four tips. At a news conference, he talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this is just a short time ago, tracking down a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of more kids at thirteen and a twelve year old,

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<v Speaker 2>but he laid it at the feet of the parents here.

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<v Speaker 5>Since parents you don't want to raise your kids, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to start raising him.

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<v Speaker 6>Every time we make an a rest, your kid's photo.

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<v Speaker 5>Is going to be put out there, and if I

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<v Speaker 5>could do it, I'm going to purp walk your kid

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<v Speaker 5>so that everybody can see what your kid's up to.

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<v Speaker 5>The Second point of this is if I can any

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<v Speaker 5>way find out that a parent knew what was going

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<v Speaker 5>on and wasn't doing anything, you're just getting purple walk

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<v Speaker 5>with them. The purpose of four to five Florida is

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<v Speaker 5>to send in tips that we're going to investigate because

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<v Speaker 5>you believe something is going to happen. To keep setting

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<v Speaker 5>in these tips over and over and over again and

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<v Speaker 5>think it's a big joke and nothing's going to happen

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<v Speaker 6>Starting Monday, we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to have a billboard, We're gonna have a poster

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<v Speaker 5>at I'm going to show you every kid that's been

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<v Speaker 5>arrested and where they go to school.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, Monday, like you say Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking to you about Mike Chitwood, who is

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<v Speaker 2>the elected sheriff of Alusia County down in Florida, and

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<v Speaker 2>after just north of Florida's state line with George at

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<v Speaker 2>Appalachi High School in September, there was a fourteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old who shot a couple of students and a pair

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<v Speaker 2>of teachers. Mike Chitwood, the sheriff, recognized a whole new

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<v Speaker 2>slew of dozens of kids, most of them kids who

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<v Speaker 2>had gone online and threatened similar violence at schools, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm not taking it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>So we started arresting them.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a couple of weeks after that school shooting four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seven twenty seven as you mentioned people, ninety

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<v Speaker 1>percent of them students. He said, this is absolutely out

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<v Speaker 1>of control and it ends now. One of the boys,

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<v Speaker 1>a boy named Armando, eleven years old. Armando was sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>He opened his eyes. She says, the police are at

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<v Speaker 1>the door. It was four am. He puts sweatpants on,

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<v Speaker 1>goes in the living room black vests. Men in black

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<v Speaker 1>vests storm in, searches room for guns. Armando bright, young kid,

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<v Speaker 1>round faced. He loses his breath when he talks too fast.

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<v Speaker 1>The detective said, we saw you on that FaceTime call

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<v Speaker 1>with your friends. You were showing off your collection of

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<v Speaker 1>knives and airsoft guns. And Armando tells the investigators in

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<v Speaker 1>a voice yet to reach puberty, that he was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure that he mentioned to his friends that the guns

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<v Speaker 1>were toys. And his mom says, did you write a

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<v Speaker 1>list down? And he says no, I didn't, and then

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<v Speaker 1>says I did. Yes, will detectives already found that notebook

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<v Speaker 1>names jotted down in black marker. One of the investigators

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<v Speaker 1>said to Armando, did you joke and say it was

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<v Speaker 1>a hit list or a kilt list? Armanda says, I

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<v Speaker 1>said it was a hit list. It was a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>But mom says, does this look like a joke to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Armanda was arrested just one of those stories. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this played out, like you said, four hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>seven arrests, mostly students.

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<v Speaker 4>Not everybody loves this.

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<v Speaker 1>Some experts in child psychology and criminology have condemned Chitwood's approach.

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<v Speaker 2>This elected Sheriff Deborah wise Brought is a psychiatry professor

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<v Speaker 2>Stonybrook University said that there's no evidence that this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be helpful reducing the level of threats.

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<v Speaker 3>How is that?

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<v Speaker 2>How would you? How could you possibly say that public

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<v Speaker 2>shaming like this? And I don't mean to belittle what

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<v Speaker 2>the sheriff is doing, because I think he is doing

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<v Speaker 2>something important. It's also incumbent upon the parents to come

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<v Speaker 2>out and say this is not acceptable or I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have a kid that has.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaned towards the potential to say something stupid like this,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to get to that kid early. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait until after they make the threat.

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<v Speaker 4>Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>This psychiatry professor Deborah is an ass hat. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's possible that this could further humiliate and

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<v Speaker 1>embarrass a child and they could go further underground. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that needs to be addressed, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>it's spreading like wildfire. If they are at least four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy seven people making threats to shoot up

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<v Speaker 1>a school, most of them being kids, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>nip it in the bod. Like you mentioned, this, sheriff

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<v Speaker 1>is no stranger to controversy. In twenty twenty three, he

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<v Speaker 1>led a public campaign against white supremacists, frequently referred to

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<v Speaker 1>them as scumbags. He says, by the way, there has

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<v Speaker 1>been a precipitous drop in arrests of kids after you

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<v Speaker 1>began publicizing names and faces, from five the week of

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<v Speaker 1>to seven to two to one to zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and the argument that the child psychologists making that

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to drive them further underground or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and the distress was that led them to make the

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<v Speaker 2>threat in the first place. The sheriff pointed this out.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent of these threats are just that they're threats.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no either ability to carry out the thing. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just talking out their butts. They have no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing, They have no idea the impact that's That's

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<v Speaker 2>okay to drive somebody to suppress a thought like that

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<v Speaker 2>is okay. It's okay to have the kid think about

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<v Speaker 2>what it is that they're doing or saying and what

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<v Speaker 2>impact it's going to have on it. Right, if someone

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<v Speaker 2>has a propensity to shoot up a school, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a sheriff that's going to prevent them

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<v Speaker 2>from doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just it's weird that.

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<v Speaker 1>The I would like my kid to be scared straight.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, some parents don't have that kind of leverage

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<v Speaker 1>over their own kids to scare them straight like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you got to bring in the big gun, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak in terms of law enforcement. But that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that would scare, That would scare the hell out of

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<v Speaker 1>a kid to the point where they wouldn't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was funny anymore to threaten to shoot up a school.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the point, right, That's why it should be there.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got some rain we could see coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, this week we could see some potential damage

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<v Speaker 2>in the fire burned scar areas.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about roads that reopened as well, and then

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<v Speaker 2>later this hour, Luka Doncic, you're going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I spell it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a hard see, Jacob, it's a hard see.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end, how do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Say Luca's name, Doncic.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you pronounced the H. I didn't hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that you call him.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get you.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the other thing about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched basketball since nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe that's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe two thousand and one, two thousand and five strong

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<v Speaker 1>case for twowo thousand and five. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>the Laker Celtics fun times, resurgence of their fun times,

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<v Speaker 1>their rivalry. So I know nothing. We will be getting

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<v Speaker 1>into our AI desk coming up later. Deep Research is

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<v Speaker 1>an AI offshoot that can help you research things. It

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<v Speaker 1>used to take you a month. It can do it

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<v Speaker 1>in a matter of seconds because you know AI. It's fancy. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all this uproar that people are using AI to

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<v Speaker 1>craft wedding speeches, text messages, even obituaries. Guess what people

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<v Speaker 1>have been cheating away that stuff for centuries years. You

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<v Speaker 1>think that that text you got from that girl wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>carefully crafted by six of her friends. You think that

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<v Speaker 1>wedding speech was original, or that that person came up with.

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<v Speaker 4>All of that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we all get a little help from your friends

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<v Speaker 2>back into the earth from whence they came?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the process. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>I guess so, and AI doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, AI does not. They do not know the

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were there this weekend, and we still still

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<v Speaker 2>to this day, are finding foods that have expired by

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<v Speaker 1>That expired, the spices alone from nineteen seventy two, the

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<v Speaker 1>AI couldn't do your parents an ounce of justice. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this morning PCH reopened. Basically, access to the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>and along the palisades will remain restricted to residents, law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 3>But that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>All of PCH itself, between McClure Tunnel and Carbon Beach

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<v Speaker 2>open this morning, one lane each direction, is open, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't go more than twenty five miles an hour. Mayor

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<v Speaker 2>Bass said, you can expect congestion. There is an active

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<v Speaker 3>All this had something to do.

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<v Speaker 2>She wanted to do it on Sunday, but she was

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<v Speaker 2>would allow PCH to reopen without restrictions because there's enough

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<v Speaker 2>people who are so interested in what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>We've all seen the.

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<v Speaker 2>Lookie loose who feel like they need to be there

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<v Speaker 2>to see the destruction themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>The podcasters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the honest truth is you don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>be there to see that for yourself. It is an

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it just it's an awful place to be

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<v Speaker 2>and for you to be there simply out of curiosity

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<v Speaker 2>is an insult to the people who lost their lives

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<v Speaker 2>and lost everything in those fires. Yes, so, as of

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<v Speaker 2>the way they're going to do it now, National Guard

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<v Speaker 2>is extended quite a bit so that they can actually

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<v Speaker 2>do some of the I guess pass control in those checkpoints.

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<v Speaker 2>So that LAPD has the ability because LAPD's been on

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<v Speaker 2>tactical alert since the fire started January seventh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to need some ominous music. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any ominous music, because folks tell me if you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>this before. But the storm door is open.

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<v Speaker 3>And that didn't work.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I think it started to work at the end here.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me do it. Take two.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, let me try it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the storm door is open. If you know people

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<v Speaker 1>up north, yep, it has been an atmospheric river say

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<v Speaker 1>goodbye that has slammed into those folks. Well it's headed here.

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<v Speaker 1>The first of a series of three atmospheric river.

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<v Speaker 4>Storms has arrived.

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<v Speaker 1>They're hoping that this may lift us La County from

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<v Speaker 1>our fire station a fire season.

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<v Speaker 4>But the problem is is that.

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<v Speaker 1>With that comes you know the threat of mudslides, debrisflows,

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<v Speaker 4>So when is it supposed to hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Widespread rain expected tomorrow through Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>Ventura County may get the brunt of it there.

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<v Speaker 3>The peak time for rain just north of their.

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Barbara, SA and Louis Obispo counties have gotten rain

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<v Speaker 2>today and they will continue to get rain. The biggest

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<v Speaker 2>the risk of mud slides and debris flow. Even from

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<v Speaker 2>certain amount short, not short, small amounts of mud slides

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<v Speaker 2>that close down pH and Dapanga, for example. But if

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<v Speaker 2>this is a significantly heavier rainfall, then we could see

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<v Speaker 2>some bigger issues. Does this end fire season? Nothing ends

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<v Speaker 2>fire season here.

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to sitting inside and seeing the rainfall

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<v Speaker 1>and being cozy and doing nothing and being okay with it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the sound your couch made.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, coming in hot? Who hurt you over the weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>Everything?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>That's right?

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<v Speaker 4>You have ailments?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you?

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which this just reminded me. It's whoever wrote

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<v Speaker 2>the story wrote ending dry January obvious?

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<v Speaker 3>Howd to go?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm still drunk? I had set six shots this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel so good. I'm just kind of like rolling

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<v Speaker 4>it over. Really, I just I feel freaking great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, There'll probably come a time, but for the

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<v Speaker 1>time being, I'm sticking with it.

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<v Speaker 3>So this show doesn't necessarily prompt you to drink every day.

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<v Speaker 5>You mean you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, which you know I've learned to deal with in

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<v Speaker 4>But no, it does not.

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually a great you know, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm digging ditches. Maybe if I was digging ditches, I

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<v Speaker 1>That actually sounds very relaxing. John used to I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was sheep. John used to do, from time to

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<v Speaker 1>time an extended daydream about how he would like to

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<v Speaker 3>And it could be that, and no's that seems.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if Sean, I think has a I

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he does. He's the great sheep whisperer.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps I haven't heard him talk about that in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what happened. I'll have to ask him about

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<v Speaker 1>that today. I thought there was a terrorist attack this

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<v Speaker 1>morning or something. My phone kept going off like crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I pick it up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's like six alerts about this massive NBA trade.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be the first to tell you I know nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about the NBA.

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<v Speaker 4>I played basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved basketball, watching the Celtics and the Lakers rivalry.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was dialed in one hundred and fifty percent

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<v Speaker 1>to all of that in the eighties when I was

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<v Speaker 1>growing up and all, and then I just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fell up the Kings that whole bit in Sacramento. That

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of fun for a minute. Chris Weber and

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<v Speaker 1>then the Warriors, and that was.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I just I moved down here and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't root for the Lakers because then my family wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>speak to me. So I haven't watched basketball about twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have no frame of reference when it comes.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that they're both stars. Anthony Davis, big deal

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<v Speaker 1>for him to come to the Lakers. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>guy whose name I can't pronounce, Luca. He's also a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal with the Mavericks. That's a lot of hate

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<v Speaker 1>going on with the Mavericks. Was it GM or Owner,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you? It's all Chinese to.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, well or Serbian? I think? Is he Serbian? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's true, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Figures has joined as producer at Straordinaire for our

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<v Speaker 2>friends over at KLAC, but also one of the hosts

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<v Speaker 2>of the f NA podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>F NA podcast is where you find him kfig on

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<v Speaker 1>social media as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you guys for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, thanks for coming on. So discuss Luca. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>is this the biggest trade in NBA history?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, one, because Anthony Davis, an aging superstar, gets traded

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<v Speaker 7>to the Dallas Mavericks, who claimed that they want to

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<v Speaker 7>make a deal to win right now when they just

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<v Speaker 7>went to the NBA Finals last season with arguably the

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<v Speaker 7>second third best player in the entire league and someone

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<v Speaker 7>even say the best player in the league and Luka Doncik.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the thing that's what makes it such a big

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<v Speaker 6>music I sorry, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that hard it is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no age. It's a hard end dochic like.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's I'll try to use a frame of reference since

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<v Speaker 7>you haven't watched the NBA in twenty years, there Shannon,

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<v Speaker 7>if I possibly can, so, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine you can ask for a football analogy. I can

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<v Speaker 1>try for baseball is just like the Dodgers and the Mavericks.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dodger's trying to get better, the Mavericks trying to

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<v Speaker 7>Well, there's a lot of interesting dynamics when it comes

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<v Speaker 7>to that, but just think of if football. I'll just

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<v Speaker 7>use an example, maybe not the best quarterback in the league,

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<v Speaker 7>but a top three quarterback. Let's say Lamar Jackson. If

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<v Speaker 7>Lamar Jackson just overnight got traded from the Baltimore Ravens

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<v Speaker 7>to say, the Las Vegas Raiders or something, and now

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<v Speaker 7>they got a good Blair think got Max Crosby into

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<v Speaker 7>the bunch number one picks, like, oh, you got good players.

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<v Speaker 7>But this is like a face of a franchise top

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<v Speaker 7>of play, Like that's the equivalent or Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what it hits closer to home.

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<v Speaker 7>What if they traded Josh Allen or excuse me, they

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<v Speaker 7>traded Justin Herbert from the Chargers for lamarg Herbert's a

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<v Speaker 7>really good player, and I'm not You don't have to

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<v Speaker 6>I'll just talk to you. Gary. Herbert's a very good player.

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<v Speaker 6>I do think that Charger.

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<v Speaker 7>Fans, as much as they love Justin Herbert, probably would

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<v Speaker 7>Lamar Jackson, a three time potentially three time MVP coming

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<v Speaker 7>back the other way. That's kind of the way this

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<v Speaker 7>shapes up. And it happened in the dead of night.

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<v Speaker 7>This is something that just doesn't happen anymore in the

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<v Speaker 7>NBA where it's so player driven and agent driven, and

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<v Speaker 7>they're the ones that are usually directing traffic when it

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<v Speaker 7>comes to where they want to play, who they want

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<v Speaker 7>to play for. This was literally old school Rob Polenka,

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<v Speaker 7>the GM of the Lakers and the GM of the Mavericks,

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<v Speaker 7>whoever a previous relationship from when Rob was Kobe's agent

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<v Speaker 7>and the general manager of the Mavericks now was a

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<v Speaker 7>Nike executive. They just met over coffee last Thursday, kind

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<v Speaker 7>of came up out of nowhere, talked between the two

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<v Speaker 7>of themselves, and then all of a sudden, on Saturday

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<v Speaker 7>night at nine o'clock, this trade happens. Nobody knew. Anthony

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<v Speaker 7>Davis didn't know, Lukadantik didn't know. Ro James had no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow in the dead of night discuss that relationship. Now, Luka,

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<v Speaker 2>Doncik and Lebron James both on the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 7>So well, tactically speaking, that's going to be rough. They're

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<v Speaker 7>both very ball dominant players, but usually in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 7>Hogs is strong Gary. But I would say they both

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<v Speaker 7>thrive with the ball in their hands. Neither of them,

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<v Speaker 7>I would say, are really good players without having the

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<v Speaker 7>ball in their hands. Now that's something the Lakers are

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<v Speaker 7>going to have to figure out, which is fine. Again,

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<v Speaker 7>you have one of the best players, top three players

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<v Speaker 7>in the league, and Lebron is still a top ten

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<v Speaker 7>player at worst. Right now, you'll figure it out. Relationship wise,

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<v Speaker 7>Lebron James and Luca get along great. Luca has always

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<v Speaker 7>looked up to Lebron James. From what I understand, they

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<v Speaker 7>have a really good relationship. And for people saying that

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<v Speaker 7>Lebron James might request a trade because Anthony Davis was

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<v Speaker 7>his guy and they have the same agent, it sounds

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<v Speaker 7>as if Lebron James has no desire of asking for

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<v Speaker 7>a trade. Now, that could be for a couple of reasons.

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<v Speaker 6>His son plays for the.

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<v Speaker 1>Team, right, isn't that what he's doing now? Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>his passion project.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so he doesn't want to be traded away unless

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<v Speaker 7>the Lakers traded both of them, which I guess is

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<v Speaker 7>somewhat possible if they really wanted to. And one the

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<v Speaker 7>Lakers actually see Lebron James as a mentor to Luka

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<v Speaker 7>Doncik and the big reason why he was traded away

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<v Speaker 7>from the Dallas Mavericks.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're to read the reports is.

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<v Speaker 7>That they have issues about his health and his conditioning

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<v Speaker 7>and his commitment to staying in shape.

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<v Speaker 2>He showed up what thirty pounds overweight or or I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if i'd say overweight.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the guy's huge anyway, so be in two seventies.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, two seventies, a little heavier than I like to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And he showed up in Chicago twice the size. He

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<v Speaker 1>still did have had a productive season.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, look, Luka Doncic when he's played now, he's only

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<v Speaker 7>played twenty two games this year because he has a

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<v Speaker 7>calf injury. Now, whether that's due to him being overweight,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not a doctor. I can't speak to you.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what the Slovenian delicacies are.

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<v Speaker 1>Smoker.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a good question, and I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess it's possible, but I really I can't speak

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<v Speaker 7>to that. I'm not one hundred percent sure. I'll say this,

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<v Speaker 7>regardless of his weight issues or discipline issues, whatever you

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<v Speaker 7>want to call them, whatever he's doing is working. He's

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<v Speaker 7>his second highest league score in NBA playoff history, behind

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<v Speaker 7>Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, how insane was that?

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<v Speaker 4>He won me a lot on prize picks, did.

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<v Speaker 6>He Yeah, yeah, that's going to lie. I believe it.

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<v Speaker 6>Guy is a luck. He's a walking triple double. He's

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<v Speaker 6>a phenomenal player.

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<v Speaker 7>And even if you have concerns about his durability or

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<v Speaker 7>his health moving forward, if you're the Lakers, it's a

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<v Speaker 7>deal that you have to take.

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<v Speaker 6>This is twenty five years old.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so if he does get himself into shape and

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<v Speaker 7>become the player that you wanted to become, he can

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<v Speaker 7>be the next face of your franchise for the next

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<v Speaker 7>ten twelve years.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was in shape at twenty five? I was eating

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<v Speaker 1>like pounds of bacon for dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you also weren't a professional athlete. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy gets paid to be in shape.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I know, but it takes a while to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of that when you're a young player.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, the ugly stepchild in all of this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be the Dallas Mavericks. But they got

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<v Speaker 2>ninety one dropped on him in the first half yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>Ninety one.

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<v Speaker 7>That's hard to do well, especially when you say defense

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<v Speaker 7>wins championships is what the general manager. Now granted, Anthony

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<v Speaker 7>Davis wasn't there yet they have a couple of key players,

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<v Speaker 7>including Luca, who wasn't going to be there anyway because

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<v Speaker 7>he's been hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>So are we in the basketball season right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're almost to the All Stars and we are

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<v Speaker 2>waist deep into the All Star season.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to win like this season, That's what Alis

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<v Speaker 4>is saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Again, they say they want to win this season. Yet again.

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<v Speaker 6>They went to the NBA Finals last year, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So what happened there? Did they win?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 6>They lost to the Boston Celtics.

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<v Speaker 4>Celtics ranted.

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<v Speaker 7>I think a big reason for that is because Luka

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<v Speaker 7>Doncic is. When I say terrible defensively, that's an understatement.

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<v Speaker 7>He just has no interest in playing defense.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a problem.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a bit of a problem because the Boston Celtics

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<v Speaker 7>basically just picked on him the entire series and that's

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<v Speaker 7>why they lost.

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<v Speaker 6>In five games.

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<v Speaker 3>It's showtime, Lakers they're here for. I mean, you want the.

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<v Speaker 4>Weight problem though too. It's hard to get back.

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<v Speaker 7>When you're hauling an extra but that you With that

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<v Speaker 7>being said, he's so dynamic on the offensive enno the floor.

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<v Speaker 6>He's an offense in and of himself. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 6>if you're the Lakers. It's a risk you have to take.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it now, I'm into it. Now I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bit Kevin, thank you appreciate it of course, n

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<v Speaker 1>Figure thanks for having me in guys kfig on social media.

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