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Speaker 1: this event that we're talking about today with welcome back
Speaker 1: Tom Hagenhorn. He is a lifelong learner. He's been researching
Speaker 1: and talking about the many fats as of Western socialism
Speaker 1: and progressivism. Previously given the following talks at empower You
Speaker 1: Socialism in the US, A Brief History ESG, introducing our
Speaker 1: New World Government, American education and its takeover by international socialism,
Speaker 1: and Climate Calamity Climate Change Exposed. Then a member of
Speaker 1: the Empower You Board, and thank you for your service
Speaker 1: to the Empower You providing investment advice to individuals since
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three. BS and an MBA from the University
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, my alma mater and the CPA. Welcome back
Speaker 1: Tom Hagenor to talk about oil subject matter the empower
Speaker 1: Use sum in our presentation take a place Thursday beginning
Speaker 1: at seven pm. Tom, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Hey, glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Brian, happy you're doing this topic. I mean, no one
Speaker 1: needs to tell me how important oil is this morning
Speaker 1: when I saw you're going to be on the programming, like,
Speaker 1: do you like plastic bottles? And I know plastic bottles
Speaker 1: have their own problems with them, but in terms of
Speaker 1: the cost of shipping, it's a good thing we have
Speaker 1: plastic to move around liquids because Lord knows how much
Speaker 1: glass ways and how much more expensive it would be.
Speaker 1: And of course glass shatters and breaks. That's just one
Speaker 1: thing that's happened over my lifetime.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and you know, the thing is, there's an
Speaker 2: awful lot of propaganda surrounding fossil fuels, mostly oil and gas,
Speaker 2: and the focus is just incredibly narrow and it avoids
Speaker 2: petro cam I mean, my goodness, there's no clothes that
Speaker 2: you could You could wear some scratchy wool, I guess,
Speaker 2: you know, and a few other natural fibers, but everything
Speaker 2: we wear, plastics, lubricants, additives, fertilizer. You could go on
Speaker 2: and on on. I mean, modern life is not possible
Speaker 2: without oil and gas, and the chemicals that are created
Speaker 2: from oil and gas just not possible.
Speaker 1: Well, and fertilizer was one that came out as an issue,
Speaker 1: I know, with the situation in Ukraine, the bread basket
Speaker 1: of the world, I guess. But the idea that fertilizers
Speaker 1: and going back to Malthusians who think we're all going
Speaker 1: to you know, reoverpopulate the world to where we all
Speaker 1: starve to death. That was a concept from back of
Speaker 1: what the late sixties or nineteen seventy ish time frame.
Speaker 1: Look how far the world's population has grown. And look
Speaker 1: the world's population, for whatever reason, has gotten fat or
Speaker 1: not skinnier. We have been able to keep up with
Speaker 1: food demand because of fertilizers, fertilizers thanks to that evil oil.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so fifty percent of the world population is
Speaker 2: fed using synthetic fertilizers. And quite frankly, without it, there
Speaker 2: would have been a lot of start. We wouldn't have
Speaker 2: nearly as many people on the earth. And if we
Speaker 2: took it away all of a sudden or too quickly.
Speaker 2: We would actually have starvation in many parts of the world.
Speaker 2: That's how important it is.
Speaker 1: Well, some people believe that's exactly what our global leaders want.
Speaker 1: They really don't care about the day to day lives
Speaker 1: of the average human being. They have this broader world
Speaker 1: direction with fewer people, I suppose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that is one of the some
Speaker 2: of the more radical components. I think people are pollution, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and you know stumbling block that the Left
Speaker 1: is facing because physics and reality fly in the face
Speaker 1: of what their desires are. Okay, they say they want
Speaker 1: to get rid of fossil fuels and we're all going
Speaker 1: to drive these wonderful electric vehicles, ignoring all of the
Speaker 1: pollution and other issues those things create, negating any alleged
Speaker 1: advantage in terms of saving the globe from climate change.
Speaker 1: I mean diesel. Diesel powers our entire economy. Every semi
Speaker 1: tractor trailer with the exception of the three of them
Speaker 1: you see driving around California these days, runs thankfully on diesel.
Speaker 1: They go long distances without having to be refilled, and
Speaker 1: they are effective at what they do. The modern electric
Speaker 1: vehicle diesel or electric vehicle replacement truck weighs what twice
Speaker 1: as much, costs three times as much, and cannot carry
Speaker 1: as much equipment, and then needs to be recharged every
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty miles. What would that do to
Speaker 1: the economy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that would It would be a black hole,
Speaker 2: is what it would be. Yeah, you know, and I know,
Speaker 2: and I think you do? You do you have an
Speaker 2: EV or you've driven an EV? There must be a
Speaker 2: lot of fun interesting But look, so what where's the
Speaker 2: electricity coming from to power that EV?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: You know? It's coming mostly almost mostly from fossil fuels.
Speaker 2: And you know, interesting thing here. We've had this real
Speaker 2: push to reduce fossil fuels for about thirty five years now.
Speaker 2: And would you believe that in nineteen ninety and latest
Speaker 2: year I have stats for these are reliable stats, by
Speaker 2: the way, twenty twenty two. But if you compare nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety when this whole push started, to twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: thirty two years, fossil fuels provided eighty one percent of
Speaker 2: the world energy in both years, both years, Let that
Speaker 2: sink in. We've not reduced the use of fossil fuels
Speaker 2: at all. And why why haven't we? Well, we could
Speaker 2: point to China and India. China eighty seven percent of
Speaker 2: their energy comes from fossil fuels, and the dirtiest fossil
Speaker 2: fuel is coal. Then you go to oil, then you
Speaker 2: go to natural gas. Natural gas produces the fewest greenhouse
Speaker 2: gases their biggest usage sixty one percent coal, eighteen percent oil,
Speaker 2: only eight percent natural gas. India is similar, just not
Speaker 2: as extreme as China. So everything that we're trying to
Speaker 2: do has been and we have been very successful at
Speaker 2: reducing our and limiting our greenhouse gases, mostly by converting
Speaker 2: gradually over fifty years from coal to natural gas, you know,
Speaker 2: reducing coal lot increasing. So we've been good citizens, we've
Speaker 2: been doing our part. It's actually mostly I think, been
Speaker 2: economically driven. It's just cheaper and you know, better, better
Speaker 2: for business.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well maybe I should ask you this Tom Orn,
Speaker 1: who's doing the seminar on Thursday night beginning at seven
Speaker 1: pm in Poweryoamerica dot org. Maybe the Chinese knows something
Speaker 1: that we don't. Since they continue to build coal plants,
Speaker 1: dirty as it may be, it's certainly fueling their economy.
Speaker 1: They're not seen, they don't seem to be too concerned
Speaker 1: about global warming or climate change or whatever we call it.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not convinced that that's happening. Perhaps I'm sure that.
Speaker 2: Well, look and I gave a talk on climate change,
Speaker 2: and yeah, greenhouse gases are increasing, they have increased temperatures.
Speaker 2: The temperatures are minute. I just look to read latest
Speaker 2: upstate from the satellite data and it's like less than
Speaker 2: I think zero point three degrees fahrenheit per decade per decade.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about extremely small increases in temperature. And
Speaker 2: by the way, we've had the greening of the earth
Speaker 2: over the last forty years. Talking about feeding people, you
Speaker 2: know the other oo we need plants need CO two
Speaker 2: for synthesis, that is, they need CO two like we
Speaker 2: need air. And when you increase the CO two and
Speaker 2: we haven't, it has increased a lot. You just you
Speaker 2: cause a flourishing of plant life, including crops, and that's
Speaker 2: what we've seen over forty years. So the benefits to
Speaker 2: me have far outweighed any detriments from global warming. Well
Speaker 2: you are I think minor. They're real, but they're very minor.
Speaker 1: Well, and you point to the gradual increase in temperature.
Speaker 1: I mean it is well documented geologic data ice boring samples.
Speaker 1: We can go down the list. The fact that it's
Speaker 1: known that the entire state of Ohio was covered by
Speaker 1: a glacier at one point. I'm glad the world heated up,
Speaker 1: because well, I live in Ohio, and I don't think
Speaker 1: I could live on top of a glacier. You know,
Speaker 1: we grow food here now where we couldn't have if
Speaker 1: the Earth had temperature hadn't increased. It has done so
Speaker 1: ebbed and flowed since the dawn of the planet and
Speaker 1: before man walked the Earth. I mean the many ice
Speaker 1: age occurred during our respective recent lifetimes. I mean several
Speaker 1: hundred years ago. I'm glad it warmed up. Over that.
Speaker 1: We've had times of hotter climate and we've had times
Speaker 1: of coler climate. It's just that I think we are
Speaker 1: of the mind that within our little, minuscule, infinitestinably small
Speaker 1: lifetimes relative to the lifetime of the Earth, we think
Speaker 1: that what we're doing in forty fifty eighty years worth
Speaker 1: of existence is real time causing every single weather event
Speaker 1: that happens out there. And I think that's just a
Speaker 1: preposterous suggestion.
Speaker 2: But Brian, if you repeat a lie enough, and if
Speaker 2: you repeat it through many, many different media sources that
Speaker 2: too many people trust. You can get them to believe
Speaker 2: almost anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when you teach it to the little children
Speaker 1: in school who do not have logic, reason, or a
Speaker 1: knowledge of the globe's history, at least from a geological perspective.
Speaker 2: That's why the left once universal pre k because the earlier,
Speaker 2: the better, get those little minds when they can be formed.
Speaker 2: I mean literally, we don't. I don't remember what I
Speaker 2: was doing when I was three and four, but you
Speaker 2: can bet that the things that I saw and heard
Speaker 2: are a part of me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks to my mom and dad. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: can give credit to yours as well. Tom. Sure, Tom's
Speaker 1: going to be a fantastic conversation. Hey, so it's Thursday ninth,
Speaker 1: beginning at seven, How oil has shaped world history? You
Speaker 1: can do two ways. Log in from the comfort of
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Speaker 1: Two twenty five Northland Boulevard of the Frame USA building
Speaker 1: where the empower U studio is. Tom will be there. Tom.
Speaker 1: Good luck with the speech. I know it's going to
Speaker 1: be a very interesting one. I hope you get a
Speaker 1: good crowd. It's well deserved.
Speaker 2: If you do, Thanks a lot, Brian and everybody should know.
Speaker 2: It's always free. There's no charge.
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