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<v Speaker 1>this event that we're talking about today with welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Hagenhorn. He is a lifelong learner. He's been researching

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about the many fats as of Western socialism

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<v Speaker 1>and progressivism. Previously given the following talks at empower You

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<v Speaker 1>Socialism in the US, A Brief History ESG, introducing our

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<v Speaker 1>New World Government, American education and its takeover by international socialism,

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<v Speaker 1>and Climate Calamity Climate Change Exposed. Then a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Empower You Board, and thank you for your service

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<v Speaker 1>to the Empower You providing investment advice to individuals since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three. BS and an MBA from the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati, my alma mater and the CPA. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Hagenor to talk about oil subject matter the empower

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<v Speaker 1>Use sum in our presentation take a place Thursday beginning

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<v Speaker 1>at seven pm. Tom, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, happy you're doing this topic. I mean, no one

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<v Speaker 1>needs to tell me how important oil is this morning

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw you're going to be on the programming, like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like plastic bottles? And I know plastic bottles

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<v Speaker 1>have their own problems with them, but in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of shipping, it's a good thing we have

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<v Speaker 1>plastic to move around liquids because Lord knows how much

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<v Speaker 1>glass ways and how much more expensive it would be.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course glass shatters and breaks. That's just one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's happened over my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and you know, the thing is, there's an

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<v Speaker 2>awful lot of propaganda surrounding fossil fuels, mostly oil and gas,

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<v Speaker 2>and the focus is just incredibly narrow and it avoids

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<v Speaker 2>petro cam I mean, my goodness, there's no clothes that

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<v Speaker 2>you could You could wear some scratchy wool, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and a few other natural fibers, but everything

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<v Speaker 2>we wear, plastics, lubricants, additives, fertilizer. You could go on

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<v Speaker 2>and on on. I mean, modern life is not possible

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<v Speaker 2>without oil and gas, and the chemicals that are created

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<v Speaker 2>from oil and gas just not possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and fertilizer was one that came out as an issue,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, with the situation in Ukraine, the bread basket

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, I guess. But the idea that fertilizers

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<v Speaker 1>and going back to Malthusians who think we're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, reoverpopulate the world to where we all

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<v Speaker 1>starve to death. That was a concept from back of

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<v Speaker 1>what the late sixties or nineteen seventy ish time frame.

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<v Speaker 1>Look how far the world's population has grown. And look

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<v Speaker 1>the world's population, for whatever reason, has gotten fat or

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<v Speaker 1>not skinnier. We have been able to keep up with

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<v Speaker 1>food demand because of fertilizers, fertilizers thanks to that evil oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, so fifty percent of the world population is

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<v Speaker 2>fed using synthetic fertilizers. And quite frankly, without it, there

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<v Speaker 2>would have been a lot of start. We wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>nearly as many people on the earth. And if we

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<v Speaker 2>took it away all of a sudden or too quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>We would actually have starvation in many parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how important it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, some people believe that's exactly what our global leaders want.

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<v Speaker 1>They really don't care about the day to day lives

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<v Speaker 1>of the average human being. They have this broader world

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<v Speaker 1>direction with fewer people, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think that is one of the some

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<v Speaker 2>of the more radical components. I think people are pollution, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, and you know stumbling block that the Left

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<v Speaker 1>is facing because physics and reality fly in the face

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<v Speaker 1>of what their desires are. Okay, they say they want

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of fossil fuels and we're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to drive these wonderful electric vehicles, ignoring all of the

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<v Speaker 1>pollution and other issues those things create, negating any alleged

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<v Speaker 1>advantage in terms of saving the globe from climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean diesel. Diesel powers our entire economy. Every semi

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<v Speaker 1>tractor trailer with the exception of the three of them

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<v Speaker 1>you see driving around California these days, runs thankfully on diesel.

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<v Speaker 1>They go long distances without having to be refilled, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are effective at what they do. The modern electric

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle diesel or electric vehicle replacement truck weighs what twice

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<v Speaker 1>as much, costs three times as much, and cannot carry

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<v Speaker 1>as much equipment, and then needs to be recharged every

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty miles. What would that do to

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<v Speaker 1>the economy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that would It would be a black hole,

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<v Speaker 2>is what it would be. Yeah, you know, and I know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you do? You do you have an

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<v Speaker 2>EV or you've driven an EV? There must be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun interesting But look, so what where's the

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<v Speaker 2>electricity coming from to power that EV?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? It's coming mostly almost mostly from fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, interesting thing here. We've had this real

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<v Speaker 2>push to reduce fossil fuels for about thirty five years now.

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<v Speaker 2>And would you believe that in nineteen ninety and latest

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<v Speaker 2>year I have stats for these are reliable stats, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, twenty twenty two. But if you compare nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety when this whole push started, to twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two years, fossil fuels provided eighty one percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the world energy in both years, both years, Let that

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<v Speaker 2>sink in. We've not reduced the use of fossil fuels

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And why why haven't we? Well, we could

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<v Speaker 2>point to China and India. China eighty seven percent of

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<v Speaker 2>their energy comes from fossil fuels, and the dirtiest fossil

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<v Speaker 2>fuel is coal. Then you go to oil, then you

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<v Speaker 2>go to natural gas. Natural gas produces the fewest greenhouse

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<v Speaker 2>gases their biggest usage sixty one percent coal, eighteen percent oil,

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<v Speaker 2>only eight percent natural gas. India is similar, just not

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<v Speaker 2>as extreme as China. So everything that we're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do has been and we have been very successful at

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<v Speaker 2>reducing our and limiting our greenhouse gases, mostly by converting

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<v Speaker 2>gradually over fifty years from coal to natural gas, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>reducing coal lot increasing. So we've been good citizens, we've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing our part. It's actually mostly I think, been

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<v Speaker 2>economically driven. It's just cheaper and you know, better, better

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<v Speaker 2>for business.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, well maybe I should ask you this Tom Orn,

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<v Speaker 1>who's doing the seminar on Thursday night beginning at seven

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<v Speaker 1>pm in Poweryoamerica dot org. Maybe the Chinese knows something

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't. Since they continue to build coal plants,

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<v Speaker 1>dirty as it may be, it's certainly fueling their economy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not seen, they don't seem to be too concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about global warming or climate change or whatever we call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're not convinced that that's happening. Perhaps I'm sure that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look and I gave a talk on climate change,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, greenhouse gases are increasing, they have increased temperatures.

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<v Speaker 2>The temperatures are minute. I just look to read latest

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<v Speaker 2>upstate from the satellite data and it's like less than

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<v Speaker 2>I think zero point three degrees fahrenheit per decade per decade.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about extremely small increases in temperature. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, we've had the greening of the earth

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<v Speaker 2>over the last forty years. Talking about feeding people, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the other oo we need plants need CO two

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<v Speaker 2>for synthesis, that is, they need CO two like we

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<v Speaker 2>need air. And when you increase the CO two and

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't, it has increased a lot. You just you

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<v Speaker 2>cause a flourishing of plant life, including crops, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we've seen over forty years. So the benefits to

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<v Speaker 2>me have far outweighed any detriments from global warming. Well

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<v Speaker 2>you are I think minor. They're real, but they're very minor.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you point to the gradual increase in temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is well documented geologic data ice boring samples.

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<v Speaker 1>We can go down the list. The fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>known that the entire state of Ohio was covered by

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<v Speaker 1>a glacier at one point. I'm glad the world heated up,

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<v Speaker 1>because well, I live in Ohio, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I could live on top of a glacier. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we grow food here now where we couldn't have if

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth had temperature hadn't increased. It has done so

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<v Speaker 1>ebbed and flowed since the dawn of the planet and

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<v Speaker 1>before man walked the Earth. I mean the many ice

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<v Speaker 1>age occurred during our respective recent lifetimes. I mean several

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years ago. I'm glad it warmed up. Over that.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had times of hotter climate and we've had times

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<v Speaker 1>of coler climate. It's just that I think we are

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<v Speaker 1>of the mind that within our little, minuscule, infinitestinably small

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<v Speaker 1>lifetimes relative to the lifetime of the Earth, we think

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<v Speaker 1>that what we're doing in forty fifty eighty years worth

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<v Speaker 1>of existence is real time causing every single weather event

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<v Speaker 1>that happens out there. And I think that's just a

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<v Speaker 1>preposterous suggestion.

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<v Speaker 2>But Brian, if you repeat a lie enough, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you repeat it through many, many different media sources that

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<v Speaker 2>too many people trust. You can get them to believe

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<v Speaker 2>almost anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially when you teach it to the little children

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<v Speaker 1>in school who do not have logic, reason, or a

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of the globe's history, at least from a geological perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why the left once universal pre k because the earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>the better, get those little minds when they can be formed.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean literally, we don't. I don't remember what I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing when I was three and four, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can bet that the things that I saw and heard

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<v Speaker 2>are a part of me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks to my mom and dad. I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>can give credit to yours as well. Tom. Sure, Tom's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a fantastic conversation. Hey, so it's Thursday ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>beginning at seven, How oil has shaped world history? You

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<v Speaker 1>Two twenty five Northland Boulevard of the Frame USA building

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<v Speaker 1>where the empower U studio is. Tom will be there. Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with the speech. I know it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a very interesting one. I hope you get a

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<v Speaker 1>good crowd. It's well deserved.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do, Thanks a lot, Brian and everybody should know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always free. There's no charge.

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<v Speaker 1>You got that right, Yeah, learn something, show up or

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<v Speaker 1>log in for free. Thanks Tom, appreciate what you doing

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<v Speaker 1>seven forty one fifty five krs. The talk stations always

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate what Shabrie group of Keller Williams seven