Speaker 1: You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
Speaker 1: In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
Speaker 1: bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
Speaker 1: seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
Speaker 1: to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
Speaker 1: These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
Speaker 1: To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
Speaker 1: just might change the way you see the woods forever.
Speaker 1: So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers
Speaker 1: as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates
Speaker 1: about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge
Speaker 1: link in the show notes. Thank you, all right, Big
Speaker 1: for Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Daryl
Speaker 1: Adams from the Owl Moon Wilderness. You may recognize his
Speaker 1: name if you've read the book The Owl Moon Lab,
Speaker 1: a paranormal experiment by Toab Johnson, which is a fantastic
Speaker 1: read from Hanger One Publishing. Highly recommend it. Of the
Speaker 1: links in the show notes. But it's a pleasure to
Speaker 1: have you on the show. Finally, how are you doing today, Darryl.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
Speaker 1: Thank you, that's awesome, and you are Are you okay
Speaker 1: with sharing where you are currently? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out in Oklahoma, that's right.
Speaker 1: Which I think that's interesting by itself, and we might
Speaker 1: we might get there eventually, but I think I would
Speaker 1: love to start out with just talking about your you know,
Speaker 1: experience at the owl Moon Wilderness and what you experienced.
Speaker 1: And we already talked about in the pre show that
Speaker 1: this isn't going to be everything because quite frankly, there's
Speaker 1: there's too much, and you can get the whole story
Speaker 1: by reading that book. But what are some some interesting
Speaker 1: memories or experiences you had when you were in that
Speaker 1: area of Oregon.
Speaker 2: Oh. I like Tobe's book the al Moon Lab. He
Speaker 2: could probably write two more of those books with all
Speaker 2: the stuff that happened to us there. I actually moved
Speaker 2: to Oregon in twenty eleven, and I first moved to
Speaker 2: Roseberg area, which is about, I don't know, forty miles
Speaker 2: south of Cottage Grove area where the al Moon Lab
Speaker 2: Wilderness area is, and then then we moved up there
Speaker 2: to the al Moon Lab after that, but pretty much
Speaker 2: soon as I moved into the house, the al Moon
Speaker 2: Lab house, I started hearing strange sounds. It backs up
Speaker 2: to a big wilderness area BLM Land government land, so
Speaker 2: it kind of backs up to the mountains there, and
Speaker 2: there's nothing back there other than wilderness. So I would
Speaker 2: hear all kinds of weird sounds up there night, and
Speaker 2: which led me to start recording stuff. You know, I
Speaker 2: put out my recorder and so I just a lot
Speaker 2: of strange things were happening. I was having a new
Speaker 2: shop built at that house, and so my brother has
Speaker 2: been kind of into the bigfoot world forever, and I
Speaker 2: was just kind of working and didn't didn't think about it.
Speaker 2: I've always been a hunter and a fisher and an
Speaker 2: outdoors person, so I kind of knew all the animals
Speaker 2: and everything, and this stuff I was hearing up there
Speaker 2: wasn't anything I'd ever heard, you know. I've heard bobcats,
Speaker 2: a mountain lions screaming and all the weirdest stuff like
Speaker 2: that in the Sierras in California when I hunted, as
Speaker 2: you know, growing up as a boy scout and everything,
Speaker 2: but this was like nothing I'd ever heard. Sort of
Speaker 2: like if you mixed a t Rex and an African
Speaker 2: lion and they had a child and it was angry.
Speaker 2: So anyways, my brother had been into bigfoot and stuff,
Speaker 2: so he actually got an invitation from Todd Nice to
Speaker 2: a thing they have every year out there in Oregon
Speaker 2: called the oh shoot Out of probably Beach the beach
Speaker 2: Foot they call it. And so my brother wasn't able
Speaker 2: to go, and me and him were going to go together,
Speaker 2: and so I ended up going and I met Ron
Speaker 2: moorehead there. He his daughter actually lives right there in
Speaker 2: in or around Cottage Grove area. So we got to
Speaker 2: talking by the campfire, me and him and Bob Gimlin,
Speaker 2: and I let him hear some of the sounds I
Speaker 2: recorded and they were like, oh my gosh, man, those
Speaker 2: are yeah. And I said, I, you know, I'm new
Speaker 2: to the area. I it'd be cool if I, you know,
Speaker 2: met someone around there that could kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: let me know what's going on, what this is and
Speaker 2: what's happening. So Ron's like, oh, yeah, you got your
Speaker 2: pretty much neighbors with Toab Johnson. He's right there in Springfield,
Speaker 2: you know, you're within thirty mile of him or whatever.
Speaker 2: So as I got back from Beechfoot. I kind of
Speaker 2: hit Tobe up on the Facebook messenger. I think it
Speaker 2: was because I didn't know him prior to that, and
Speaker 2: it just happened to be. He was doing a thing
Speaker 2: down at the cottage Grove Lake, which was within two
Speaker 2: miles of the property where they got the London trackway
Speaker 2: where they would have had, you know, cast all those prints.
Speaker 2: So I met him down there and we met and
Speaker 2: you know, just got to talk and I let him
Speaker 2: hear the sounds and stuff, and he's like, oh, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: that's cool. He was driving a truck and he was
Speaker 2: living in a up by Springfield, and I had the property.
Speaker 2: So I just said, hey, why don't you just move
Speaker 2: your little travel trailer down there on the property and
Speaker 2: you know, maybe we can. I'm retired, I got nothing
Speaker 2: else to do, so we can start, you know, just
Speaker 2: researching this stuff and see what's going on. So he
Speaker 2: moved his trailer over there to the property for a
Speaker 2: couple of months and then we just everything just kind
Speaker 2: of Actually I think it was, oh he was there,
Speaker 2: he may not even been there yet, and I had
Speaker 2: drawn an elk hunt for the proper for the land
Speaker 2: up behind there, and it was actually the last day
Speaker 2: of the hunting season, so he had just gotten off
Speaker 2: work truck driving, So he jumped in my truck and
Speaker 2: we went up there. And we're driving because I had
Speaker 2: seen a bunch of the structures, you know, out in
Speaker 2: the woods that the the bigfoots do and markers, and
Speaker 2: I was telling him And as we're going up there,
Speaker 2: he's driving up this old logging road. There's the red
Speaker 2: the red clay on the sides of the roads, you know,
Speaker 2: and he says, hold it. So I pull over in
Speaker 2: the truck and there's these two big impressions in the clay,
Speaker 2: the red clay, and it had been rainy, so they
Speaker 2: were really fresh. So we ended up getting these knee impressions.
Speaker 2: We stayed out there. We stayed out there till about
Speaker 2: one in the morning, till the the plaster set up,
Speaker 2: and we got these knee impressions. And that's a whole
Speaker 2: another story, but we we brought them back to my property,
Speaker 2: the Aul Moon Lab property. We first put him in
Speaker 2: the It had a big garage also and the shop
Speaker 2: was just kind of being finished up at that time,
Speaker 2: so they sat in the garage for a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks while the red clay dried up on them. You know,
Speaker 2: they were they're big, they're good size, and as it,
Speaker 2: you know, it dried up. We didn't want to disturb anything.
Speaker 2: We kind of wanted that clay to dry because it
Speaker 2: was like a cap, you know, like a like a
Speaker 2: mud cap on those impressions. So it eventually dried and
Speaker 2: we by then the shop was ready. So I made
Speaker 2: a little carrier and we put him over there in
Speaker 2: the shop and then you know, we pulled off the
Speaker 2: dried red clay and there was hair. We we had
Speaker 2: collected hair up there at the spot too when we
Speaker 2: first got them, and then you know, the whole It's
Speaker 2: another story that Tobe sent the hair to a lady,
Speaker 2: Cindy Doson up in Canada, who's a vet or whatever
Speaker 2: she does. She she's a with the Olympic Project and
Speaker 2: she's she's kind of like a scientist. She you know,
Speaker 2: she has a lab that she does that kind of work.
Speaker 2: And you know, the hairs that we found came back
Speaker 2: as non human human like type hair from a lower extremity.
Speaker 2: And he's, you know, he didn't tell her anything about
Speaker 2: what these hair were from. He just sent them as
Speaker 2: a can you tell me what these are thing. And
Speaker 2: then you know, he was doing the thing at at
Speaker 2: Cottage Grove at the time, a meetup strange bra thing
Speaker 2: once a month, and so he did her on the
Speaker 2: zoom meeting there on the live thing with all the crowd,
Speaker 2: and you know, she was live reading to all of
Speaker 2: us what she had found. And he had not told
Speaker 2: her anything at all about what these wereds. She came
Speaker 2: on to everyone, the whole crowd, I think Ron moorehed
Speaker 2: was there and a bunch of people and this is
Speaker 2: an unknown hair from unknown human, no medulla from a
Speaker 2: lower extremity. We didn't tell her, you know, we got
Speaker 2: them off these knee impressions of this gigantic whatever creature
Speaker 2: it is. But anyways, that was kind of cool. And anyway,
Speaker 2: the kne impression has gotten this big shop and as
Speaker 2: you know, this stuff, as soon as we brought those
Speaker 2: the impressions back to that property, everything really amped up.
Speaker 2: You know, we were already having a few things. You know,
Speaker 2: we were hearing the stuff at night and we had
Speaker 2: had you know, like two in the morning. Something would
Speaker 2: come and bang on the back of the door which
Speaker 2: backed up to the like slap the door real hard,
Speaker 2: and it was a big, old two story farmhouse, five bedrooms.
Speaker 2: It was just me and my wife and our little dogs.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm running downstairs with my glock and
Speaker 2: my underwear on with a big flashlight and never saw anything,
Speaker 2: you know, and there'd be big, greasy handprints everywhere on
Speaker 2: the doors and big and you know, so pretty soon
Speaker 2: I just Tobe was there, and I just kind of started,
Speaker 2: you know, doing these little experiments getting I put out
Speaker 2: a big I put out the recorder, and I got
Speaker 2: a parabolic and pointed in that area so I could
Speaker 2: really get get the sounds better recorded. Tobe downloaded Audacity
Speaker 2: onto the laptops and he would go to work, and
Speaker 2: I'd sit there in the morning drinking coffee for about
Speaker 2: four or five hours and go through it all, you know,
Speaker 2: and we had I still have I think twelve hundred
Speaker 2: hours of stuff. I haven't even listened to you.
Speaker 1: You have twelve hundred and listen to yo. Goodness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I would, I would put this thing out
Speaker 2: every night diligently. I would go out at nine or ten,
Speaker 2: you know, before I went to bed, and set it
Speaker 2: all up, and then it six in the morning, I'd
Speaker 2: go get it and then I would, you know, download
Speaker 2: it on the computer and then I would put it
Speaker 2: on Audacity and then you know, just tobat is set
Speaker 2: up where you can see the the spectrograph where you
Speaker 2: could only know that it had to be like a
Speaker 2: sou squatch making that rumble or whatever. So I got
Speaker 2: those sounds that you know, they use them on Expedition
Speaker 2: Bigfoot at the beginning of every episode you hear the
Speaker 2: big Bigfoot. Ye As, Yeah, that's a sound I recorded, really,
Speaker 2: and I actually have a bunch more. They're not perfectly
Speaker 2: they're not really cleaned up. Scott not Scott Taylor, a
Speaker 2: guy from the Olympic.
Speaker 1: Project, Ellis David Ellis, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He cleaned them up for us a little bit. But
Speaker 2: I have other ones that are really good along with
Speaker 2: the ones that they use. And then there there was
Speaker 2: actually that about that week when I got all those,
Speaker 2: I still got all that recorded. There's a bunch of
Speaker 2: other yells and screams like that that I have, and
Speaker 2: I actually have a bunch of them talking like the
Speaker 2: Ron moorehead stuff where they sound like like a Native
Speaker 2: American had a child with an Oriental lady and they're
Speaker 2: just out there speaking that Samurai chatter or whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call it. You can't make it out. I
Speaker 2: got a bunch of that too. I got all kinds
Speaker 2: of stuff recorded.
Speaker 1: Your version of the samurai chatter man, I.
Speaker 2: Would say, you know, I'm not sure, but I was
Speaker 2: just going by what Ron Moorehead calls it on his
Speaker 2: you know, the Sierra sounds that samurai chatter they call,
Speaker 2: I guess. But to get back to the lab, as
Speaker 2: Toad named it. The reason he called it, that was
Speaker 2: the night that we cast those knee impressions. You know
Speaker 2: they have the wolf moon, the harvest moon, it was
Speaker 2: the al moon, and it was actually I think it
Speaker 2: was good Friday, you know, right before Easter Sunday. That
Speaker 2: was the day that we cast those And you know,
Speaker 2: we stayed out there till like twelve thirty one in
Speaker 2: the morning until the plaster set we could bring it back.
Speaker 2: It was me and Tob and my wife Cindy and anyways,
Speaker 2: so as we got those knee impressions back, and I
Speaker 2: was doing all these little booby trap experiments, and Toad
Speaker 2: was doing experiments with recorders, like setting two or three
Speaker 2: of them up so you can get all the different sounds.
Speaker 2: We were getting all the different EVPs we were picking
Speaker 2: up in that new shop and in the house, and
Speaker 2: the place is just like a hot spot for every
Speaker 2: kind of thing you can imagine. But so we kind
Speaker 2: of were joking one day and said, this is kind
Speaker 2: of like a lab in here. You know, we're doing
Speaker 2: all these little we got a melmeter set up over here,
Speaker 2: and you know, all these things that were going off
Speaker 2: all the time. And so he goes, yeah, it's the
Speaker 2: Olmu lab. So that's just kind of how it came about.
Speaker 2: But so inside the shop, and Toba has the recordings.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't think they're in the book,
Speaker 2: but that shop would come alive at night. I would
Speaker 2: put the recorder in there, he would, and it would
Speaker 2: sound like you get fifty people in there with hammers
Speaker 2: hitting on the inside of this brand new metal shop.
Speaker 1: There's there's a few of those in the book because
Speaker 1: I remember taking Aback quite a bit by it. It's
Speaker 1: pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's wild sounding, and we would, you know,
Speaker 2: hear that and record it, and we would hear voices
Speaker 2: EVPs in there. My little dog Izzy, she's a little
Speaker 2: toy Australia and shepherd. She was deathly afraid of that shop.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't go in it unless she kind of forced her,
Speaker 2: and then she would stand by the door wanting out
Speaker 2: the whole time. So it was just a strange thing.
Speaker 2: And inside the house itself, it was an old farmhouse
Speaker 2: that was built in it early nineteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: It was just a one bedroom house to begin with.
Speaker 2: And the contractor that we bought it from, he was
Speaker 2: a building contractor. He had really made it into a
Speaker 2: big old farmhouse. He had added on to it, but
Speaker 2: it still had the original bones, you know, the original
Speaker 2: structure under there, so he could get grandfathered in. But anyways,
Speaker 2: in the house, we had been there and I would
Speaker 2: hear voices downstairs and stuff. We would have just all
Speaker 2: kinds of different things. Is he's in here squeaking all
Speaker 2: her toys, want me to play, so that's all she
Speaker 2: does all day. But anyways, we're in that me and
Speaker 2: my wife are in bed one night, the whole and
Speaker 2: we're upstairs out in the woods, and the whole our
Speaker 2: whole bedroom just lit up like bright as brighter than daylight,
Speaker 2: like a bay of white. But it wasn't a light
Speaker 2: that blinded your eyes. It's strange, very strange thing lit
Speaker 2: up for maybe you know, it seems longer, but when
Speaker 2: it happens, it's probably three or four seconds. But that
Speaker 2: was some of the weirdness that would happen there lights.
Speaker 2: But that that time, it just lit up the whole
Speaker 2: bedroom like brighter than daylight. And then it just dark.
Speaker 2: So we're like wow. But you know, we were around
Speaker 2: there for a couple of years, so we got kind
Speaker 2: of used to weird things happening, you know how you
Speaker 2: get kind of numb to things. You know, you'd hear
Speaker 2: stuff downstairs, balls bouncing down the stairs where the big
Speaker 2: shop was. On one side it was fenced. It had
Speaker 2: a chaining fence around it in the backyard area. But
Speaker 2: one night on the shop side where the fence was,
Speaker 2: animals you know, didn't really get in that area at all,
Speaker 2: you know, at night, like I don't know, a raccoon
Speaker 2: or whatever because it was fenced in. But one night
Speaker 2: on that side outside the house, on the top of
Speaker 2: up high because it was two stories, there were these
Speaker 2: big motion sensor lights. So if some set off the
Speaker 2: motion sensor, you know, the light would come on like
Speaker 2: a bright light out into that backyard. Area. So one night,
Speaker 2: we had the big master bedroom upstairs on the north
Speaker 2: side of the house, and on the south side there
Speaker 2: were two other like bedrooms upstairs and then two down
Speaker 2: but that was five but those two bedrooms over there
Speaker 2: in the in the summer Oregon, you don't need an
Speaker 2: air conditioner hardly up in the woods like that. So
Speaker 2: what we'd do in the summer, we'd open our window,
Speaker 2: and on those other two bedrooms we'd open a door
Speaker 2: the doors and their windows, and then the air would
Speaker 2: flow through on us to keep you cool at night.
Speaker 2: So one night about two it was always the you know,
Speaker 2: the witching hour or whatever between two and four am.
Speaker 2: Weird things would happen outside. One night, my wife got
Speaker 2: up to go to the bathroom about two thirty and
Speaker 2: the motion sensor light was on on that side where
Speaker 2: the garage was where it was fenced. So she's like,
Speaker 2: why's that light on? In me I'm thinking, I don't know,
Speaker 2: that's really strange. So I get up to go look
Speaker 2: because I could see down there really good. It's like
Speaker 2: you're setting up in a hunting buyer or something. You know,
Speaker 2: you're up fifteen feet in the air on a two
Speaker 2: story house. You can look straight down into the yard
Speaker 2: and it's it's a good moon at night. So I
Speaker 2: get out of bed, I start walking across the hallway
Speaker 2: there to the other bedroom, so I could see out
Speaker 2: in the backyard really well. And as I was walking,
Speaker 2: that light went out. It timed out. You know, they
Speaker 2: were only on for about five minutes, but I could
Speaker 2: still see out there because because of the moonlight. So
Speaker 2: I'm looking down into that backyard and there's a sidewalk
Speaker 2: around the side of the house here, and I see
Speaker 2: this big black thing against the side of the house.
Speaker 2: And directly below that bedroom is one of the downstairs
Speaker 2: bedrooms that I'll tell you a story about it in
Speaker 2: a minute, but we call it the Chucky Room because
Speaker 2: weird things happen there. But anyways, I'm looking down and
Speaker 2: I can see good out there because it's pretty much
Speaker 2: a full mood. And here's this big dark thing against
Speaker 2: the house, and I'm thinking, oh, crap, man, is there
Speaker 2: a How could a bear get through that chain league fence?
Speaker 2: You know, you know they can, but and we've never
Speaker 2: seen a bear there ever, something What in the heck
Speaker 2: is that? And I I'm just looking at this thing
Speaker 2: and it's just standing there really steal up right up
Speaker 2: against the house, real tight. I can see its whole thing.
Speaker 2: And it's really tall because the bedroom window downstairs is
Speaker 2: about eight foot tall because it had a concrete foundation
Speaker 2: around the house. And it's as tall as the top
Speaker 2: of the window on the downstairs. And I'm looking right
Speaker 2: down at over it, like at its top of its body,
Speaker 2: and it's real white and tall, like a bear standing up.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at it and I whistle like that,
Speaker 2: and this thing takes off and when it does, it
Speaker 2: sounds like a Have you ever been around horses when
Speaker 2: they get up and shake the dust off, like that
Speaker 2: flutter they make. It sounded like that that flutter and
Speaker 2: boom it took off. I heard it tink the top
Speaker 2: of the chain link fence like it just stepped over
Speaker 2: it and it was gone. But it was just like
Speaker 2: a big commotion, and it was so fast and powerful.
Speaker 2: It was just like I can't even explain the power
Speaker 2: that it was, you know, from some taken off like that,
Speaker 2: like if you had a draft horse or a you know,
Speaker 2: the Budweiser horse, and it just took off of a
Speaker 2: dead run from a dead stop. That's how was And
Speaker 2: I was like, holy crap. The next morning, I went
Speaker 2: down and on that window, on the bedroom window downstairs,
Speaker 2: on that bedroom, there was a handprint on the window
Speaker 2: that was huge and what it did. The screen was
Speaker 2: on the bottom part of the window, you know on
Speaker 2: the windows, the top part doesn't have a screen, and
Speaker 2: there was a handprint where I guess when the thing
Speaker 2: took off, it ripped the screen. You could see five
Speaker 2: finger holes in the screen where it ripped, holes in
Speaker 2: the screen when it took off, when I scared it,
Speaker 2: And on the top glass there was a big face
Speaker 2: impression with snot rockets and Tob I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's in the book or not, but Tob took samples.
Speaker 2: I went and got him. He was staying there at
Speaker 2: the time, and he took samples with Q tips. We
Speaker 2: did everything kind of you know, with latex gloves and
Speaker 2: alcohol and everything so we could get the DNA. But
Speaker 2: he took samples of those pockets that were on the
Speaker 2: window and you could totally see the big face impression
Speaker 2: on that window. And I think we measured it up.
Speaker 2: It was a little It was right at eight and
Speaker 2: a half feet on the window, and what it was
Speaker 2: was that thing that I saw was looking inside that
Speaker 2: bedroom window. But of course we didn't stay in that room.
Speaker 2: You know, that was the two rooms downstairs. We didn't
Speaker 2: stay in. It was just me and my wife and
Speaker 2: the one master upstairs. But that was, Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: a crazy thing.
Speaker 1: There was anything in that room then that it would
Speaker 1: be it would have been looking at.
Speaker 2: Not really, it was just you know, we had beds
Speaker 2: in there for in case we had visitors. We just
Speaker 2: had a bed in there. But the story with that
Speaker 2: room is the people that we bought the house from
Speaker 2: had three children and the older boy that was pretty
Speaker 2: much raised there his whole life. About three or six
Speaker 2: months after we'd bought the house and that family had
Speaker 2: moved out, the older boy, it was raised in that bedroom,
Speaker 2: he ended up taking his life. So that was that
Speaker 2: was a sad thing. But that room I call it
Speaker 2: the chucky room because I don't know if you've seen,
Speaker 2: but one morning we wake up and I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I saw it that same day
Speaker 2: or whatever, but I went in that room because we
Speaker 2: would always hear things in that room at night. It
Speaker 2: would sound like people talking or EVPs. So, and this
Speaker 2: was after the kid had passed, so I kept hearing
Speaker 2: people talking in there, so and my dog would growl
Speaker 2: and then run under the bed and hide. But I said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my recorder in there. So I put
Speaker 2: my recorder in that room, and I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 2: I have the recording of it. It's a perfect EVP
Speaker 2: that says I'm dead, I'm dead. It says it about
Speaker 2: three times on the recorder in that kid's room. And
Speaker 2: then I don't know how long it was after that
Speaker 2: that I went in there one morning and there was
Speaker 2: the bed was always disturbed, you know, we would it
Speaker 2: had a nice twin bed in there, like, the covers
Speaker 2: were always messed up on it, and nobody ever used
Speaker 2: that room unless we had visitors. So I went in
Speaker 2: there one morning to fix the covers again and kind
Speaker 2: of do some dusting around, and on the door inside
Speaker 2: the bedroom, on the wooden door, there's these two creepy
Speaker 2: chalky handprints down low, probably about four feet. So, man,
Speaker 2: I freaked out. Every time i'd go in that room,
Speaker 2: my hair would get you know, the back of your
Speaker 2: neck would get weird. So I went and got told.
Speaker 2: I said, come and check this out. You're not going
Speaker 2: to believe it. And I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 2: his thing, but he he recorded it and he did
Speaker 2: like a black light and it's the white, chalky, kind
Speaker 2: of weird looking alien handprints in that room. Ghostly looking handprints.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's weird stuff. As you're telling your account,
Speaker 1: I am really remembering parts of the book and it's
Speaker 1: just it's an incredible read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we me and my wife go to church so
Speaker 2: one and the house was cool. I mean it was
Speaker 2: built with all hardwood floors and everything. You know, Oregon
Speaker 2: has a lot of wood. So the guy was a contractor,
Speaker 2: so he kind of it was kind of a custom house,
Speaker 2: so it had all hardwood floors. We had a big
Speaker 2: in the living room where the coffee table was. We
Speaker 2: had a big rug, real nice rug in the living room.
Speaker 2: We went to church one day and we came back
Speaker 2: and here's this big rock setting in the middle. I mean,
Speaker 2: here's the doors locked. We have a camera on the
Speaker 2: front door, you know, not a ring. It wasn't a
Speaker 2: ring back then. It was another name. I can't think
Speaker 2: of the name of the camera, but not nothing on
Speaker 2: the camera lock door. Here's a rock on that in
Speaker 2: the middle of the living room on that rug. It
Speaker 2: was kind of a flat brownish colored rock and my
Speaker 2: dog Izzy was upstairs under the bed. Anytime any of
Speaker 2: the weirdness of talking or all that would start going on,
Speaker 2: she'd go up and run and get under our bed.
Speaker 2: You know, she could sense that stuff. Sometimes she would
Speaker 2: just stare at that room. You know, that room that
Speaker 2: I called the chucky room where those handprints were. And
Speaker 2: I got that EVP and about a month before we
Speaker 2: moved out of that house. In that bedroom, it didn't
Speaker 2: have a fan. It had just the two light bulbs
Speaker 2: with the glass globe underneath, you know, like older houses,
Speaker 2: And we're sitting in there one night watching TV and
Speaker 2: we hear this pop pop like that it almost sounded
Speaker 2: like gunshots, and that you know, we didn't use those bedrooms.
Speaker 2: I walk into that bedroom to see what that sound was,
Speaker 2: and both the light bulbs in that bedroom blew up,
Speaker 2: and that you know they had the lights weren't on.
Speaker 2: The lights hadn't been on for days. We never had
Speaker 2: any problems with any kind of electrical issues in the
Speaker 2: house or anything. And what was weird is underneath the
Speaker 2: light fixture in that bedroom, all the glass was stacked
Speaker 2: on the floor underneath that the globe, and none was
Speaker 2: inside the glass globe. It was the strangest thing. You know,
Speaker 2: how can two light bulbs explode and not go in
Speaker 2: the glass globe that's screwed onto the light fixture. That
Speaker 2: was just another one of the weird things there. And
Speaker 2: then you know the stuff with the shop. You know,
Speaker 2: we had the the sounds and all the time some
Speaker 2: sounds going on out there, banging, all kinds of hitting
Speaker 2: on the shop. We record sounds. I would, you know,
Speaker 2: record sounds out back every night when it wasn't rainy,
Speaker 2: and you know, getting the bigfoot screaming, I would hear.
Speaker 2: I would hear like loud, like a sight. I would
Speaker 2: call it a siren. It's like these bigfoots do this
Speaker 2: high pitched like screal sound, like they're not screaming, but
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know how they do it, like
Speaker 2: a real high pitched whine and whatever does. It has
Speaker 2: a lung capacity that can go for like three minutes.
Speaker 2: And I haven't recorded it's a real I call it
Speaker 2: a siren, but it's a real high pitch sound they do.
Speaker 2: And where the al Moon Lab house is located, it's
Speaker 2: in between it's in a valley in between two mountain
Speaker 2: ranges there, but they're only probably five miles apart the
Speaker 2: valley across the whole thing, maybe not even that far.
Speaker 2: You can see them. So you would hear sasquatch on
Speaker 2: the cascade side there yelling at night or whooping and screaming.
Speaker 2: And then behind our property there the All Moon Wilderness
Speaker 2: I call it, you would hear them answering back. So
Speaker 2: they would kind of go back and forth across that
Speaker 2: valley yelling at each other like don't come over here
Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't know. We just got so used
Speaker 2: to them yelling and screaming up there. You know. I
Speaker 2: didn't record a lot of it at first, especially I
Speaker 2: didn't have a recorder. I didn't have anything. So we
Speaker 2: would hear all kinds of screams and talks and yells
Speaker 2: and waw you know, big yeah. Sounds like you would
Speaker 2: hear stuff up there that sound like women screaming. You know,
Speaker 2: I've heard I've heard mountain lions, you know, when they're
Speaker 2: in heat or whatever, they scream like that, but not
Speaker 2: like this. They don't have this kind of power. Whatever
Speaker 2: does this has, you can almost fill it in your
Speaker 2: chest sometimes when they would yell and scream, it like
Speaker 2: goes through the air. I can't explain how it travels
Speaker 2: through the air like that, like a percussion wave maybe.
Speaker 2: And in that valley there, we would also hear sonar,
Speaker 2: like sonar pings, you know, like from the old submarines
Speaker 2: like plane. One day, my wife came home from work
Speaker 2: and she's getting out of her jeep to come in
Speaker 2: the house and she heard a bunch of that sonar
Speaker 2: coming through the valley and you could kind of fill
Speaker 2: it also. It was kind of in the air and
Speaker 2: it would go by you, you know, you could hear
Speaker 2: the sound go by you like a like it's going away,
Speaker 2: coming and going. But it was like a sonar pinging.
Speaker 2: So I come out and she's telling me, I just
Speaker 2: heard this sonar thing again. I'm standing there and here
Speaker 2: it comes like it's almost like it was a pressure
Speaker 2: going by. It's hard to explain it, but we had
Speaker 2: that stuff going on EVPs a lot in the shop
Speaker 2: and the house. The bigfoot yelling, screaming. Henry Franzoni came
Speaker 2: down once, the guy that had just the guy that
Speaker 2: just passed, yeah, and we were having a thing. A
Speaker 2: bunch of people would come, you know, and weird things
Speaker 2: would happen to him, or they'd get gifted things. We
Speaker 2: got a lot of gifts there too, Like stuff would
Speaker 2: just randomly show up with you know, the green patina
Speaker 2: on it, you know, the mossy stuff. Like when we
Speaker 2: first did the knee Impressions. Here's this lock shop with
Speaker 2: two big bay doors for RVs, completely locked, brand new
Speaker 2: electric doors. Come out one morning. Here's this little green
Speaker 2: philosphraptor toy kids dinosaurs setting on the It was either
Speaker 2: on the counter or right on the knee Impressions where
Speaker 2: Toad had been working extracting the hair and stuff. And
Speaker 2: it had, you know, like that green patina, like it
Speaker 2: had been set out in the woods. And you know,
Speaker 2: where do the where does this stuff come from? You're
Speaker 2: out in the middle of nowhere in the woods. We
Speaker 2: get that. And anyways, Henry Frienzoni, he came over. We
Speaker 2: were sitting in the shop talking, you know, I think
Speaker 2: I made him some coffee. And Tobe was there, one
Speaker 2: of the neighbors, guy named Wren was there and him
Speaker 2: and he was a musician. He used to be a
Speaker 2: Wren used to be a professional musician. So him and
Speaker 2: Henry kind of we're talking about music, because Henry was
Speaker 2: a drummer, I guess, yeah. And we were just all
Speaker 2: in there talking for a few hours, and Henry was
Speaker 2: saying because we had heard some sounds in there when
Speaker 2: he was there, like the booms and the beings on
Speaker 2: the shop, and some you know, low moaning you know
Speaker 2: from up in the woods from the bigfoots. But Henry,
Speaker 2: he's looking around and he's telling us that that shop
Speaker 2: was kind of like a Tesla coil for all this
Speaker 2: weirdness because right behind the Al Moon property is the
Speaker 2: main power lines that go through the whole state of Oregon. Wow.
Speaker 2: I mean they're two big. I mean within a thousand
Speaker 2: feet of that shop or less. And then along the
Speaker 2: back side of that shop, within thirty feet is an
Speaker 2: ice cold spring that comes out of the mountain and
Speaker 2: runs right behind that shop. It bubbles out of the
Speaker 2: ground right there on the hill. And then you know
Speaker 2: the ground around there, you couldn't dig, You couldn't dig
Speaker 2: hardy anywhere without hitting quartz, quartz rock or agot or jasper. Wow,
Speaker 2: it's in the ground everywhere there. Yeah. So Henry, he
Speaker 2: said that, he said that that combination of those things
Speaker 2: that ice cold water with that, you know, all that electricity,
Speaker 2: because you know, it's always misty, rainy, and it comes
Speaker 2: to the air hits that ice cold spring water which
Speaker 2: comes right by that big metal shop with all the
Speaker 2: quartz crystals in the ground. It kind of creates a
Speaker 2: tuning fork for that stuff, he said. And then that
Speaker 2: shop had these big coils you know where the doors open,
Speaker 2: and clothes, you know, for the springs, and he said,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, you know, it's just like a
Speaker 2: big coil. And it was kind of funny because after
Speaker 2: he left, maybe a week or so later, Tob had
Speaker 2: his recorder in there. I did, and we recorded some
Speaker 2: drumming on the outside of the shop, like po boom poo,
Speaker 2: boom boom, and it was to a beat. Tob knows
Speaker 2: what it is. I don't know, but it was. It
Speaker 2: was a beat to a drum beat. And that was
Speaker 2: another thing we would talk about stuff, me and Tob
Speaker 2: just jokingly in the mornings while we were going through
Speaker 2: the sounds with audacity and talking. And Tobe was actually
Speaker 2: building Biggie, you know, that bigfoot statue that.
Speaker 1: He built exactly the Ron.
Speaker 2: Morehead thing in the shop. So we're just sitting there
Speaker 2: and talked for an hour or two in the mornings,
Speaker 2: and I'd go through the what I recorded the night
Speaker 2: and he recorded. You know, we we heard that drum beating.
Speaker 2: It was like, whoa, that is strange. And then Tobe said, yeah,
Speaker 2: Henry used to be a drummer or is a drummer,
Speaker 2: and that's like some kind of beat. Tobe knows the
Speaker 2: rhythm of it. But we thought it was really strange that,
Speaker 2: you know, they were talking about drumming him and Rin
Speaker 2: about musical instruments and all that, and then within a
Speaker 2: week or two, this thing's bigfoot or whatever does it
Speaker 2: was out here drumming. I had a couple of fifty
Speaker 2: five gallon drums flipped over that I used for burn barrels,
Speaker 2: you know, and then in the winter when it's wet,
Speaker 2: I turned them over because so they wouldn't rust out
Speaker 2: with water. But something was outside the shop drumming on
Speaker 2: those things. And you could also hear the here the
Speaker 2: actual sasquatch growling and moaning. Tobas all of it recorded.
Speaker 2: But it was strange that a lot of times, things
Speaker 2: that we would discuss in the shop in the mornings,
Speaker 2: things would show up as gifts pertaining to what we discussed. Like,
Speaker 2: I think it was in what we that twenty one
Speaker 2: or eighteen, whatever year it was there the White Socks
Speaker 2: hadn't won the World Series for a long time. I
Speaker 2: think it was, so we're not really sports fans, mere Toe,
Speaker 2: but we're just talking, Hey man, that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Those guys came back and you know, at least got
Speaker 2: in the World Series or whatever. We're talking baseball for
Speaker 2: a minute. The next morning, behind Tobe's jeep embedded in
Speaker 2: this hard pinned gravel, I mean, there was a gravel
Speaker 2: driveway all in front of the shop rock was this
Speaker 2: old baseball and it looked like somehow it just popped
Speaker 2: into the ground. Half of it was embedded into the ground,
Speaker 2: into this soil that you couldn't even put a din
Speaker 2: in with a pick. And Tobe found it, I think,
Speaker 2: behind his jeep, and it had patina all over it.
Speaker 2: And that's just some of the weird things there. We
Speaker 2: talked about, you know, hunting seasons going to be coming up,
Speaker 2: bow hunters or whatever. A few days later, here's an
Speaker 2: old arrow laying behind Tobes jeep that was no feathers
Speaker 2: left on it. Or anything. It was old like had
Speaker 2: Patino all over it. Just things that we would talk
Speaker 2: about would just you know, show up out in the
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere, all kinds of little all kinds of rocks,
Speaker 2: like on a deck, and a lot of times things
Speaker 2: would show up in the number three for some reason.
Speaker 2: There'd be three rocks laying on the deck in the morning,
Speaker 2: three rocks in the back of my pickup truck bed.
Speaker 2: One morning. I had two trucks. I had one nicer
Speaker 2: truck and then one beater truck that we took out
Speaker 2: in the woods all the time. It was a little truck,
Speaker 2: but in the bigger truck I would haul trash because
Speaker 2: living out in the country, you got to haul your
Speaker 2: trash to the to the landfill down the street. So
Speaker 2: I had this net, like a web, you know, so
Speaker 2: the trash didn't fly out. Looked kind of like a
Speaker 2: spider web, big web i'd put on. So I had
Speaker 2: hauled trash a day or two before that, and i'd
Speaker 2: had the web was still laying in the back of
Speaker 2: my truck. Came out one morning and it was a
Speaker 2: little dewy in the morning there it was getting you know,
Speaker 2: fall weather, and the web was laying behind my truck
Speaker 2: and the gravel, and I'm looking, I'm like, that is weird.
Speaker 2: How'd that get out of the truck bed? You know,
Speaker 2: it's a four wheel drive truck. It's not a little
Speaker 2: short new truck. It's new four wheel drive. And I
Speaker 2: noticed that the little plastic clips that you hooked it
Speaker 2: into the bed with, two of them were broken off.
Speaker 2: And I got to looking and Toub was there, and
Speaker 2: there was these three or four big giant finger swipes
Speaker 2: on the opposite side of the bed. We could see
Speaker 2: him real good in the moisture in the on the
Speaker 2: truck bed, and so whatever did this, grabbed that web
Speaker 2: and ripped it out of the truck where it was
Speaker 2: hooked on, and threw it back on the gravel and
Speaker 2: broke to of the plastic things. But when it it
Speaker 2: looks like it stood on the passenger side and reached
Speaker 2: all the way over to the other side and finger
Speaker 2: swipe the top of the bed and then reached down
Speaker 2: inside and rip that web out and threw it out
Speaker 2: in the gravel like it was angry that there was
Speaker 2: something in the back of my truck. And Tob actually
Speaker 2: got he he puts some powder on those fingerprints, I think,
Speaker 2: and cast and got the dermal ridges and everything, and
Speaker 2: they're about two inches. Why they're huge. But whatever this
Speaker 2: thing was had to be tall enough to sort of
Speaker 2: reach over the cab of the truck, you know, that
Speaker 2: corner portion of the truck and put those finger swipes
Speaker 2: on the bed and grab that thing and rip it
Speaker 2: out of there. Yeah, So that was just another thing
Speaker 2: that happened there. Tob had a little aluminum boat that
Speaker 2: me and him and his son would go trout fishing
Speaker 2: in down at the lakes. We lived by the lake,
Speaker 2: and then there was another lake called Dorena that we
Speaker 2: would go fishing in. And it was back but it
Speaker 2: was he had it back in beside the shop where
Speaker 2: a lot of the weird stuff happened, kind of on
Speaker 2: that side where those drums were those of fifty five
Speaker 2: gallon metal drums. But we'd me and Tobea was hauling
Speaker 2: cabinets from Eugene, Oregon to Bend, Organ over the mountain there,
Speaker 2: and we would text back and forth in the mornings,
Speaker 2: you know stuff. I would find her here. I would
Speaker 2: text him and say, Wow, look at this. Did you
Speaker 2: leave this here? Did you leave that? There? We were
Speaker 2: finding stuff all the time or getting sounds. We were
Speaker 2: communicating back and forth on the phone, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, both our phones just went completely dead.
Speaker 1: Whoa.
Speaker 2: And actually I lost two phones there that just they
Speaker 2: went out. They were Verizon phones. And I went to Horizon,
Speaker 2: and the lady that worked at the store there in
Speaker 2: Cottage Growth couldn't believe it because everything was gone off
Speaker 2: the phone. A friend of mine says, that's government erased
Speaker 2: your phone because all the stuff you had on it.
Speaker 1: But oh, so hold on, so you're saying it stopped working,
Speaker 1: but then also there was no data on the phone,
Speaker 1: so like almost a remote a race, and then like
Speaker 1: a just wiped out completely wise.
Speaker 2: Completely wiped off. You know how you can when you
Speaker 2: get a new phone, they can kind of take this
Speaker 2: stuff off your old phone. Nothing on one of them,
Speaker 2: nothing just gone. And Tob was having problems with his phone.
Speaker 2: He said, I might have to stop and you know,
Speaker 2: get me a new phone on the way back, because
Speaker 2: this one's having all kinds of problems. So I think
Speaker 2: it was two days later, maybe the next morning. He's
Speaker 2: looking at his boat because I think we're going to
Speaker 2: go fishing, and they'd stocked the lake with Trout and
Speaker 2: me and him and his son were going to go fishing,
Speaker 2: and he's looking and he's getting everything ready, and underneath
Speaker 2: the paddle on his boat is a phone. And it's
Speaker 2: an old Uh. I've never even seen a phone like
Speaker 2: this toab knew about him. It's a flip. It's a
Speaker 2: phone that slides up. Oh yeah, yeah, slides over. And
Speaker 2: it was covered and Patina looked like somebody lost it
Speaker 2: in the was like twenty years earlier. But we've just
Speaker 2: been talking both about having to get new phones. And
Speaker 2: that's what I mean by we would talk about stuff
Speaker 2: and then something reminiscent of what we were talking about
Speaker 2: would show up, like a baseball or an arrow or
Speaker 2: a phone. We were talking once about Toby's son. He
Speaker 2: likes Christmas, so he likes to decorate, you know, Christmas time.
Speaker 2: And Tob was telling me that his son's got some
Speaker 2: old Christmas decorations and he likes to put him up,
Speaker 2: you know, a few weeks before Christmas, so no more
Speaker 2: a day or two after that. In Tob's boat, here's
Speaker 2: this antique Christmas bulb that you hang on a Christmas tree.
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing looks like it's from the fifties
Speaker 2: and is just laying in his boat and it's really fragile.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know those things are glass, and how
Speaker 2: did this just show up inside his boat? After we're
Speaker 2: talking about it.
Speaker 1: You know, thinking back to what you said, Henry said
Speaker 1: about being a sort of Tesla coil and those different
Speaker 1: factors that played into it, I almost wonder if that
Speaker 1: environment could be replicated.
Speaker 2: I mean, like get a PBC tube and fill it
Speaker 2: up with quartz crystal and run some ice cold water
Speaker 2: through it with a electrical charge above it.
Speaker 1: Maybe, well, I'm saying, even find a property that had
Speaker 1: this has the same amount of court sert. Yeah, also
Speaker 1: by a huge power line and that, yeah.
Speaker 2: A similar property to that. Yeah. I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: that that place kind of is the perfect storm, you
Speaker 2: know for that. It's just it's just super strange the
Speaker 2: stuff that happened. And then you know, during the pandemic,
Speaker 2: my wife is a counselor mental health therapist specialists, so
Speaker 2: her work, she couldn't go into work during the COVID,
Speaker 2: So we had to end up selling the house because
Speaker 2: she had to do everything remotely from home, you know,
Speaker 2: with all the clients and everything, right, So we ended
Speaker 2: up selling the house. She is staying with our daughter,
Speaker 2: and then we ended up getting another house with a
Speaker 2: big office where she could for over a year she
Speaker 2: had to basically have a private practice in our house
Speaker 2: and out where the al Moon is, there's no the
Speaker 2: internet is sketchy at best, okay, so you know, we
Speaker 2: had no good connection there. So she she was tired
Speaker 2: of staying with our daughter and having to work from there,
Speaker 2: and we so we just said, well, that's just you know,
Speaker 2: so we just basically moved into the town area Cottage Grove.
Speaker 2: We actually moved to Creswell first.
Speaker 1: So that's what made you move.
Speaker 2: That's what made us move. It had nothing to do
Speaker 2: with the stuff that was going on there, crazy stuff
Speaker 2: which yeah, yeah, I could go on for a week
Speaker 2: about everything that happened there. But anyways, after that, I
Speaker 2: after we sell the house, I was I knew where
Speaker 2: all those sounds are coming from up above the house,
Speaker 2: So I go back in there. I found this old
Speaker 2: logging road that kind of goes back in there right
Speaker 2: to that area right above the property. And I'm walking
Speaker 2: down through there and I start finding signs of sasquatch,
Speaker 2: you know, like those structures and the I call them leaners.
Speaker 2: They lean like the lean branches up against trees. There'll
Speaker 2: be four or five branches leaned up against a tree.
Speaker 2: You know, a person can do that, but it's not
Speaker 2: natural out in the middle of nowhere where people don't
Speaker 2: go or anything, to find a tree with a bunch
Speaker 2: of branches leaned.
Speaker 1: Up against it, exactly.
Speaker 2: And then I'd found footprints and stuff and weaves. You know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of vine maple there, and they'll take
Speaker 2: that vine maple and weave it like a weaver. It's
Speaker 2: really cool, you know, like you've seen birds weave their nests.
Speaker 2: They'll take that vine maple and the bigfoots do and
Speaker 2: weave it. It's cool how they do it too. I
Speaker 2: don't even think a human can do it, especially up
Speaker 2: eight eight feet up off the ground and all that.
Speaker 1: I think I have a video that you sent of
Speaker 1: something similar. I can say that right now.
Speaker 2: But that's just one. We found a bunch of them,
Speaker 2: and we found a real big one. Mark Parker, my
Speaker 2: friend that saw the sasquatch there, he took it. It
Speaker 2: was a real big one. It looked like a DreamCatcher,
Speaker 2: you know, like the Native Americans make the big dreamcatchers.
Speaker 2: It was weave like that, it was all intertwined and
Speaker 2: it was really cool. I don't know if he still
Speaker 2: hasard or not, but and then there's still a bunch
Speaker 2: of those weavings up there around there. So I saw
Speaker 2: that stuff, and I thought, man, this is gonna be
Speaker 2: where I put my habituation area. It's right up above
Speaker 2: that property and all the stuff's right here. So I
Speaker 2: started to go. I started going to Walmart getting peanut
Speaker 2: butter and cookies and just latex gloves on, and I
Speaker 2: started just putting peanut butter on tree. You know. I'd
Speaker 2: come back and actually, for about the first month or two,
Speaker 2: nothing happened. Nothing I put peanut butter, i'd put cookies.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not many animals up there. There's not
Speaker 2: raccoons and stuff. There's a few possums here and there,
Speaker 2: but it's not a real active animal area. You know.
Speaker 2: There's a few deer that go in and through there.
Speaker 2: So nothing happened for a couple of months, and I thought, dang,
Speaker 2: I don't know, And then I come back one time.
Speaker 2: I would go up there about two to three times
Speaker 2: a week. Then I'd come back one time and everything's gone.
Speaker 2: It looks like I'd never even been there, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh boy, here we go. So I started doing these
Speaker 2: little booby trap things. I'd put the peanut butter aut,
Speaker 2: I'd put my game camera ou. I would put boiled eggs.
Speaker 2: I'd go to Walmart get the three flats of eggs
Speaker 2: that you buy together, and i'd put half boiled, half raw.
Speaker 2: I would do the Easter egg hunt. I'd put them
Speaker 2: in between bark of old dead tree stumps. I'd put
Speaker 2: them everywhere. I'd come back three days later and you
Speaker 2: could not even find an egg shell out of what
Speaker 2: seventy five eggs or whatever it is, three dozen whatever
Speaker 2: ever how many eggs there is. But I thought that
Speaker 2: was really strange. You know, if animal a bear or whatever.
Speaker 2: I know bears will eat eggs or whatever. But I
Speaker 2: would stick them down behind this bark and hide them,
Speaker 2: you know, like you're hiding an Easter egg from an adult,
Speaker 2: so they can't find them. And they're gone, And the
Speaker 2: bark's not torn away like a bear tore it away,
Speaker 2: get into it or nothing. The bark's still right there.
Speaker 2: I would take photos of everything, videos, and right where
Speaker 2: I put the eggs, the bark hasn't been touched. But
Speaker 2: the egg is gone, not a shell, not anything. I
Speaker 2: think if a bear or some kind of animal tore up,
Speaker 2: you know, four or five dozen eggs, they would least
Speaker 2: leave some shells or some kind of you know, something showing.
Speaker 2: So I went to the I went to the feet store.
Speaker 2: I think it was their tractor supply or one of them.
Speaker 2: And I got these big rat traps, you know, they're sticky,
Speaker 2: like you use them in a shop. Where mouse or
Speaker 2: rat runs over, they get stuck on them. And I
Speaker 2: got some big sixteen penny nails, and I got my
Speaker 2: stool and I nailed these rat traps up on the up,
Speaker 2: high on a pine tree, as high as I could reach,
Speaker 2: probably eight and a half feet. I put peanut butter
Speaker 2: behind him. I was trying to get some hair. I
Speaker 2: put peanut butter behind them and cootknies and smash them
Speaker 2: up against her. I come back, here's a tuft of
Speaker 2: red hair in one of them, you know, because when
Speaker 2: it touched it to get the thing reddish brown hair.
Speaker 2: And then what they ended up doing was toad couldn't
Speaker 2: believe it. They took their fingers and pulled the nails.
Speaker 2: Out of the tree. I mean, these are sixteen penny nails.
Speaker 2: They are like three and a half inches long, hammered
Speaker 2: in this tree. They'd pull it out of the tree
Speaker 2: and then discard the rat trap down into the wood.
Speaker 2: It's like a frisbee. I'd find him down out of
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's been nuts.
Speaker 2: So a couple of years ago, you know, I went back,
Speaker 2: I'd moved, and then I'd went back out there and
Speaker 2: started doing it again. And one day me and my
Speaker 2: grandson went down in there to get the to get
Speaker 2: the card out of the game camp. And he's a
Speaker 2: young boy, he's twenty twenty one. He takes off down
Speaker 2: the hill real quick, and it's muddy and kind of
Speaker 2: slick going off the hill there. So I'm old and
Speaker 2: kind of going slow, hanging on to stuff. So he
Speaker 2: goes down in there and to the right of who
Speaker 2: we had the game cam and I put peanut butter
Speaker 2: and stuff. There's a little gully, a little ditch thing
Speaker 2: coming up through there, a little crevice, and I see
Speaker 2: something dark. So I got every time I went out there,
Speaker 2: I would get my phone ready because I knew either
Speaker 2: I would record a weird sound or something weird would happen, right,
Speaker 2: So I see this black figure start walking up that
Speaker 2: little gully away from that camera as my grandson went
Speaker 2: down to the left of it, so it's taken off,
Speaker 2: walking super fast with its head down. I saw it
Speaker 2: in between the trees. So I'm just snapping pictures and
Speaker 2: that's where I got those those two pictures of that
Speaker 2: oh yeah, bigfoot walking away. It kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: it kind of had its head down a little bit,
Speaker 2: and it was walking super fast, and it looked like
Speaker 2: it was kind of a reddish brown hair, but it didn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't real hairy. It almost looked like you know,
Speaker 2: a dog with the mange. You know, have you ever
Speaker 2: seen a dog that's got missing hair on it, like
Speaker 2: it's got something wrong with it. It kind of looked
Speaker 2: like that. It wasn't real. There's the yeah, the mirror
Speaker 2: with the fingerswide.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the part. Okay, they're right here, right.
Speaker 2: There there it is. Okay, see that little kind of
Speaker 2: a gully that it's in there. Yeah, it's hard to tell,
Speaker 2: but I was kind of standing up a peel of
Speaker 2: it on the side there, and it's kind of walking
Speaker 2: up that little gully. The tree with a peanut butter
Speaker 2: and the camera and stuff is probably a few hundred
Speaker 2: yards to the left of that, down in the gully,
Speaker 2: more down in the bottom more and.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the gray figure in the dead center
Speaker 1: of the phone. Yeah, it's the most clear I've seen
Speaker 1: one of these photos to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was walking away real fast, and that I
Speaker 2: finally braced myself against a tree and I started. I
Speaker 2: snapped about twenty pictures real quick, and I got that one,
Speaker 2: and then the next one when it's going behind the tree,
Speaker 2: that one, and then it was gone. It went on
Speaker 2: up the hill there and and then you know there's footprints.
Speaker 2: We always had footprints from him down in there.
Speaker 1: Did you try to figure out? Yeah, me tall, It
Speaker 1: may be me.
Speaker 2: And Tob and his son went out there and he
Speaker 2: has the measurements. Yeah. But if you can see above
Speaker 2: its head on the tree, there's like a branch or
Speaker 2: something sticking out. Well, that branch I think is nine
Speaker 2: foot seven inches from the base of the tree. It's
Speaker 2: blm land oh wow, or government anyway, we put toab'son there.
Speaker 2: He's about six foot one or something, and he his
Speaker 2: head almost is just above the waist of that thing
Speaker 2: that you see there.
Speaker 1: That's incredible, And it.
Speaker 2: Almost looked like maybe the top of his head was balding, you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's so weird.
Speaker 2: And you can kind of see the muscles on the
Speaker 2: back of it's like you can see it better on
Speaker 2: my on my phone and on the computer when you
Speaker 2: blow it up. But it was walking super fast, and
Speaker 2: you know, then we just heard some branches breaking up
Speaker 2: up on the side of the hill because I yelled
Speaker 2: at my grandson get up here, you know, because I
Speaker 2: didn't know if there was more of them down there
Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah. Also, that area where that thing was,
Speaker 2: that's where I got the other picture of that alien
Speaker 2: thing walking. I saw it take a couple steps and
Speaker 2: I ran out of there. That thing scared me. It
Speaker 2: was a tall, thin thing. You showed a picture of it.
Speaker 2: It was tall, looked to be super tall from a distance,
Speaker 2: and it was also walking and I saw its hand
Speaker 2: move and its head kind of turned looking towards where
Speaker 2: I was. So I got out of there, and it
Speaker 2: looked like it had some bright light coming out of
Speaker 2: its left hand. There you go.
Speaker 1: There, that was one really. Oh I wonder that when
Speaker 1: you sent it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little hard to see there, but you
Speaker 2: can kind of see its legs open there and its
Speaker 2: right arm, and then out of its left hand, it
Speaker 2: had like this bright beam of light. And this is
Speaker 2: in the daytime. This is in the morning, and it
Speaker 2: looked like it was in a total silver suit. It
Speaker 2: was really thin, and it looked like it had some
Speaker 2: helmet on that was shaped like a diamond shape, you
Speaker 2: almost like the hat the pope wears. Yeah, it kind
Speaker 2: of looked like that, like the popes hat, like it
Speaker 2: was a diamond shape.
Speaker 1: And it was definitely walking on the ground, not floating.
Speaker 2: It looked it appeared to be where that's at. It's
Speaker 2: kind of coming down a hill into that little gully
Speaker 2: where that bigfoot walked away at. I think those are
Speaker 2: the same exact trees right there that I got the
Speaker 2: picture of the bigfoot walking through. Can you see down
Speaker 2: below it, Yeah, it's like in the same exact line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definite, oh man.
Speaker 2: And I saw its right arm move and it caught
Speaker 2: my attention and then it kind of like turned its
Speaker 2: head towards me. You can see it kind of I
Speaker 2: took about four or five pictures and that was kind
Speaker 2: of like the only one I got that was okay,
Speaker 2: and I got out of there. It was scary. What
Speaker 2: the heck all.
Speaker 1: This stuff is so tightly woven together, is what I'm
Speaker 1: finding out. So when was the last time you were
Speaker 1: in this Owl Moon Wilderness area.
Speaker 2: It's been a couple years ago now, but I'm going
Speaker 2: back at.
Speaker 1: The end of this month, are you really Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be there for a week or so by
Speaker 1: yourself or.
Speaker 2: I got other people that want to count, because it's
Speaker 2: kind of like I'm the og of the out wilderness
Speaker 2: when I show up where this happens. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was going to not directly come out and ask it,
Speaker 1: but I was kind of curious if, since you're in Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: maybe you'd be kind of showing local researchers the area
Speaker 1: and kind of passing it on and it sounds like
Speaker 1: this might be something. But we'll see, Yeah, yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I guess there's some people around there. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I lived there for a long time, and I know
Speaker 2: that whole area like the back of my hand. I
Speaker 2: know other places around there that weird stuff, like upside
Speaker 2: down trees. There's an elk wall where I got a
Speaker 2: bunch of bigfoot tracks all within like a five mile
Speaker 2: radius of that.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: And you know the BFR has has sighting reports Class
Speaker 2: A sidings right there in that exact area. Also, oh
Speaker 2: do they really years? Yeah, for years?
Speaker 1: What what county would that be?
Speaker 2: Again? That right there is Lane Lane County and it
Speaker 2: borders what's the other Douglas.
Speaker 1: Douglem same as Oakridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Douglas, Douglas and Lane. They're kind of right there.
Speaker 2: They butt together right in that area.
Speaker 1: Well, this is it's Daryl. It's such a fascinating story.
Speaker 1: And the coolest part that I wasn't realizing is that
Speaker 1: it could be a continuing story out of nowhere. I
Speaker 1: thought this. I thought that this story was just a
Speaker 1: dead end after you had moved out to Oklahoma. But no,
Speaker 1: it could start. It could start happening, or you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see where this goes.
Speaker 2: But also the UFO stuff there, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you know about that toe tell you about
Speaker 2: the UFO that would show up in the backyard and
Speaker 2: the neighbor called it the chandelier. Oh man, it would
Speaker 2: show up above those power lines and hover there with
Speaker 2: making no sound for an hour at a time or
Speaker 2: less and it would surge. It would like a power surge.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was drawing power off those
Speaker 2: power lines. I never saw anything coming up off the
Speaker 2: power lines. But it would set there in the air
Speaker 2: and it would look like a I called it like
Speaker 2: a jellyfish, because I don't know, if you've ever been
Speaker 2: to Monterey, California, at the at the whatever the aquarium,
Speaker 2: Monterey Aquarium, they have jellyfish that go in the dark,
Speaker 2: and they're real pretty lights. But that's what this thing
Speaker 2: would do. It would hover in the air and it
Speaker 2: would put out all these real pretty lights from underneath it,
Speaker 2: and it was like a ball of plasma or somebody
Speaker 2: would surge in and out like like it was given
Speaker 2: off power and sucking up power. Wow. But the neighbor
Speaker 2: he had seen this thing for years, he'd lived there
Speaker 2: since the nineties, and called it. Yeah, he'd called it
Speaker 2: the chandelier because you know how pretty a chandelier is
Speaker 2: with all the glass and everything. Yeah, pretty colors, that's
Speaker 2: what it looks like in the sky. It makes no sound,
Speaker 2: and I actually have a video I took of it.
Speaker 2: I would see it when I took my dog out
Speaker 2: to go to the bathroom before we went to bed.
Speaker 2: But one night I saw it and it was kicking
Speaker 2: out these orbs into that Al Moon Wilderness area. It
Speaker 2: was dropping these balls of light, and I have a
Speaker 2: video of that I can show you. Tob slowed it
Speaker 2: down so you can see the orbs coming out of
Speaker 2: this UFO perfectly, and it's dropping them into that area
Speaker 2: where all this weirdness happens up there, the Al Moon
Speaker 2: Wilderness area.
Speaker 1: The whole I mean, I was just up in Oakridge
Speaker 1: this summer for a week and just the Lane County
Speaker 1: area is just so weird.
Speaker 2: Man. Oh yeah, there's if you go up in the Cascades,
Speaker 2: there's like Sharp Creek and all those areas and the
Speaker 2: Bohemia area. There's all kinds of weirdness up there.
Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot of weirdness about Sharp's Creek.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have been contacting me about that
Speaker 1: whole campground area.
Speaker 2: Did you see did you see the portal picture that
Speaker 2: I seen that I saw coming out of the tree.
Speaker 2: We were up there one night. It was me and
Speaker 2: Tob and a bunch of people from that area that
Speaker 2: Tob knows that are you know, Bigfoot community, right we're
Speaker 2: up there about I don't know, must have got to
Speaker 2: be about midnight. They were doing their drums and you know,
Speaker 2: we had a little fire. So this lady who is
Speaker 2: from Washington State, she's kind of a seer or whatever
Speaker 2: you call these ladies that kind of you know, know,
Speaker 2: a medium or whatever. Know what's going on that that's it? Yeah. Now,
Speaker 2: right to the left of that as a giant, big
Speaker 2: pine tree if you look down low. But anyway, she
Speaker 2: told me, hey, there's a couple of bigfoot over the
Speaker 2: hill behind us, right here in the creek, which was
Speaker 2: only a few hundred yards. So I'm leaving the group
Speaker 2: there just to walk up this little rise and I'm
Speaker 2: looking to my right and I see this bright light
Speaker 2: start flashing. Now it's twelve thirty at night and the
Speaker 2: Cascades up there at Sharp's Creek, and I'm like, what
Speaker 2: the heck is that we're the only people out here,
Speaker 2: you know, in the middle of the Cascades on a
Speaker 2: Wednesday night, at twelve thirty at night. And I see
Speaker 2: it flash a few times, so I walk closer and
Speaker 2: I get my phone ready, and I'm thinking about it's
Speaker 2: doing it about every two minutes, so about one minute
Speaker 2: forty five seconds. I start snapping picks and I end
Speaker 2: up getting a picture of that. Wow, And that's a
Speaker 2: big pine tree. You can see it to the bottom left.
Speaker 2: And what it looked like was a years ago when
Speaker 2: I was young, they had flash cubes on on cameras, flashbulbs,
Speaker 2: and they would flag make the flash for the camera
Speaker 2: and then they would kind of stay on for a
Speaker 2: second and then fade out slowly from the heat or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's what it looked like. It looked like a flash
Speaker 2: cube thing blowing out of that tree, out of the
Speaker 2: sight of that big pine tree, up into the sky,
Speaker 2: and it is It's really weird. So I showed it
Speaker 2: to everyone. They said, no, that's a portal. And it
Speaker 2: was funny because I saw it a couple more times,
Speaker 2: and I didn't go real close because I was scared
Speaker 2: of it. I went and got Tobin, came back and
Speaker 2: it had stopped doing it by then. But we heard
Speaker 2: two bigfoots whooping down in the creek after that, and
Speaker 2: some tree knocks, and I got some crazy tree knocks too.
Speaker 2: I heard it at the Al Moonhouse. But yeah, that
Speaker 2: that thing right there is coming out of a I
Speaker 2: could take you right to the tree up their Sharp's
Speaker 2: Creek and show you it.
Speaker 1: And it looked like incredible.
Speaker 2: It was about eight feet tall and it would it
Speaker 2: would just flash out of that tree up into the
Speaker 2: air like that, like it was going up into the air.
Speaker 2: It was a clear night, no clouds, no rain, perfectly
Speaker 2: clear night. And it's just some kind of energy released
Speaker 2: from that tree or something. I didn't nobody knows what
Speaker 2: it is, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Darryl, this this conversation has been incredible. Our time
Speaker 1: is rapidly getting to a close as we wrap up.
Speaker 1: So as you, let's say, if you continue to go
Speaker 1: through that massive backlog of audio and you find things
Speaker 1: like your version of something that sounds like the Samurai chatter,
Speaker 1: is there anywhere that you are putting these things up
Speaker 1: or is it just kind of like maybe someday there'll
Speaker 1: be an album lab two or or we just kind
Speaker 1: of have to wait and see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it all save so you know, Flash
Speaker 2: of Beauties use some of it, and maybe we'll use
Speaker 2: some more there. Maybe there'll be more Flash of Beauties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always a good thing. I love those guys, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're awesome. Hm, well, I have so much I
Speaker 2: have everything but a body. You know, I have fingerprints, hair,
Speaker 2: I still got tons of hair. We had so many
Speaker 2: footprints I just gave up. You know, hydro cows fifty
Speaker 2: bucks a bag or whatever. So oh yeah, sure five
Speaker 2: worth of.
Speaker 1: I feel that.
Speaker 2: Man that prints Prince matures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wilderness area, if you could, if there could
Speaker 1: be people that start hitting that place hard again, I
Speaker 1: mean the stuff that could be pulled out of there
Speaker 1: could be intense.
Speaker 2: Oh it could wow. You know. I also have on
Speaker 2: my game camp, I have cloaking right where at eight
Speaker 2: peanut butter off the tree. Have you seen that on
Speaker 2: toe thing? He can send real good ones to you.
Speaker 2: It's like the thing Barbshoot got. You can see the
Speaker 2: peanut butter vanishing off the tree and there's like a
Speaker 2: distorted figure eating it.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Really you can see where it presses up against the
Speaker 2: latex gloves that I have tied onto the tree, because
Speaker 2: when I would do the peanut butter, I would use
Speaker 2: latex gloves on the pine tree and then I just
Speaker 2: take them off inside out and tie them on the limb.
Speaker 2: Down below. You can see where this thing comes up
Speaker 2: with its leg and gets against the lake. Text gloves
Speaker 2: and actually lifts them up. I mean you can totally
Speaker 2: see through it, and you can just start seeing the
Speaker 2: peanut butter vanishing off the tree with a distorted figure
Speaker 2: like the Predator movie taking the peanut butter. So if
Speaker 2: I had better cameras and all that, I think I
Speaker 2: could get a fully mark Harp Parker also has some
Speaker 2: really good Predator tie stuff he got there from cookies
Speaker 2: that he put on a tree nut or butter cookies.
Speaker 2: Then his he had a little better game cam. But
Speaker 2: I think if I could get one of these new
Speaker 2: game cams, put one taking pictures in one doing a video,
Speaker 2: I think I could totally get a really good video
Speaker 2: of a cloaked out whatever this thing is. I mean,
Speaker 2: if it's a sasquat or an alien.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, because you have to do like a cellular
Speaker 1: game cam set up, so you could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's no there's no phone service in that area.
Speaker 2: Just that area has absolutely.
Speaker 1: No Isn't that so weird? Just that one area just
Speaker 1: right there, that's so weird. Yeah, I'm not really surprised. Actually,
Speaker 1: And it'll.
Speaker 2: Knock your batteries out, it'll erase your phones, it'll it'll
Speaker 2: record a video on your phone like it did mine,
Speaker 2: its own video of two weird people talking. I'll send
Speaker 2: you that one too.
Speaker 1: Whoa dude, that's.
Speaker 2: Not I talked to a police, a forensic guy. He
Speaker 2: can't figure it out. He's like, no, that's impossible that
Speaker 2: your phone midnight can can do its own video in
Speaker 2: your lock pickup truck. Because I didn't have my phone
Speaker 2: out there because I didn't have any service, and it's
Speaker 2: at night, so it can't take pictures. So I just
Speaker 2: lock it in the truck when we were out and
Speaker 2: we've seen orbs that night, me and Tobe and another guy.
Speaker 2: We saw a lot of orbs there. You can probably
Speaker 2: go there anytime and see an ORB if you want
Speaker 2: to see it. They're red and white is the only
Speaker 2: two colors. I saw maybe a yellow orange like a
Speaker 2: burnt orange. One or two.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. That whole area, Cottage Grove, Roseberg get. I
Speaker 1: get tons of random people contacting me and being like, hey,
Speaker 1: I've experienced this around Roseberg, or yeah, I know it's
Speaker 1: a lot down there.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff around Roseberg. Yeah. Two. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: I could talk this stuff for three weeks because I
Speaker 2: got so much.
Speaker 1: I could listen for three weeks. But you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think the story is done, and I think eventually
Speaker 1: they'll they'll maybe be another conversation to be had. But
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on Darryl for a little bit, and thank you
Speaker 1: sharing some photos and we'll see where this leads. And
Speaker 1: you just before before you go though, are there are
Speaker 1: you actively putting out anything that or people can contact
Speaker 1: you or something where like you kind of if there's
Speaker 1: going to flash of beauty type thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of starting to try to make me
Speaker 2: a YouTube channel, you know, just put some of my
Speaker 2: stuff on there. I've been calling it Bigfoot Justified, you know,
Speaker 2: so I just kind of started it. I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: tech zero, so I don't know how to put much
Speaker 2: on there or whatever. But as I go out there,
Speaker 2: I'm going to kind of hook up with Tobe and stuff.
Speaker 2: He's having his thing, you know, on the twenty sixth
Speaker 2: out in Washington, so I'm going to be out there
Speaker 2: for that and we're going to hang out and maybe
Speaker 2: he can help me put some things on there for
Speaker 2: people to see or you know, contact me on Facebook
Speaker 2: and I can send you stuff on Messenger or whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, so is it okay to link your your Facebook
Speaker 1: profile to this?
Speaker 2: Sure, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, your bigfoot justified the channel with four subscribers right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just started it, and you know that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I really need someone to help me with it. I'm
Speaker 2: not a I'm zero tech like. That's good to you
Speaker 2: like me because I'm not. I'm not a threat to them,
Speaker 2: right peanut butter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have any other any questions, feel free
Speaker 1: to reach out. I've done a little bit of YouTube stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll get that linked and hopefully some more
Speaker 1: people will be checking out your new channel. And I'm
Speaker 1: so glad you're doing that though. But Darryl, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for hanging out.
Speaker 2: Man is meeting you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully our pats will cross one day outside
Speaker 1: of the internet, and thank you. Have a good day, man, all.
Speaker 2: Right, thank you very much.
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