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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Dan Caplas Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown

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<v Speaker 2>filling in for Dan today. Good to be with all

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<v Speaker 2>of you on this extremely hot day. I hear it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get up to ninety nine degrees tomorrow, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think that probably means a swimming pool weekend for

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<v Speaker 2>my kids. Hopefully you guys have plans to either be

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<v Speaker 2>at the pool or indoors in this kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Weather, or maybe in the mountains.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be a great place to be and call her

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<v Speaker 2>out of this weekend as well. But we have so

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<v Speaker 2>many national issues to talk about on the show today.

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<v Speaker 2>Federal cuts to Medicaid? How is that going to impact Colorado?

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<v Speaker 2>Are all the I guess claims that you're hearing about

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<v Speaker 2>that really true? Is it really a medicaid cut or

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<v Speaker 2>is it really a change to eligibility for Medicaid? Which

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<v Speaker 2>is something that we have deeply needed for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also, of course, going to talk about Iran and

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump's announcement the other day that everyone will know

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<v Speaker 2>within the next two weeks what he's going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about some of the options the

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<v Speaker 2>US would have go through some different elected officials on

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<v Speaker 2>the federal level, people like Charlie Kirk, and their different

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<v Speaker 2>opinions about what the US should do. If you have

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<v Speaker 2>opinions on what the US should do or not do,

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<v Speaker 2>you are very welcome to call into the show or

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<v Speaker 2>text today the numbers eight five five four zero five

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<v Speaker 2>eight two five five, or you can text five seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven three nine and start it with Dan. Another thing

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to cover on the show today is sanctuary

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<v Speaker 2>state laws here in Colorado, because New York has the

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<v Speaker 2>governor of New York has announced that they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>provide fifty million dollars in taxpayer money to provide legal

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<v Speaker 2>services for illegal immigrants. I'm sure this is in response

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<v Speaker 2>to the Trump administration in Ice actually doing what they

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<v Speaker 2>promised and cracking down on illegal immigrants, removing them from

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<v Speaker 2>the United States and focusing specifically on the criminal But

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<v Speaker 2>states like New York want to go ahead and fund

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<v Speaker 2>their legal services to keep them here in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>All the while, at least here in Colorado, citizens often

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<v Speaker 2>are losing services, but we're paying even more for people

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<v Speaker 2>who are not supposed to be here in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's definitely an issue that New York is taking on,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's already been handled here in Colorado by Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>and the legislature who at least every two years pass

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<v Speaker 2>another slew of sanctuary state laws, all the while Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Polis continues.

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<v Speaker 3>To claim we're not a sanctuary state.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the facts reveal and the laws reveal that we absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>very clearly are, and so we'll get into the details

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<v Speaker 2>of that a little bit later in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Christy Britton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapli Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Some specific news that was released today.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the Minnesota lawmakers who were shot, Senator John

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<v Speaker 2>Hoffman and his wife Yeavette, have been recovering in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe State Senator Hoffman is still in critical but

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<v Speaker 2>stable condition. So they actually talked to the news today

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<v Speaker 2>and revealed more about what happened when the gunman came

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<v Speaker 2>to their door. So I guess what they've said happened

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<v Speaker 2>is he came to their door at about two am

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning and made a lot of noise, banged

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<v Speaker 2>on the door, and yelled out that he was a

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<v Speaker 2>and that he'd be allowed to enter. And so, as

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<v Speaker 2>most people would do in that kind of a scenario,

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<v Speaker 2>they opened the door. They were there in their home

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<v Speaker 2>with their adult daughter, and as soon as they opened

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<v Speaker 2>the state senator like lunged at him to try and

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<v Speaker 2>were also there. He was shot eight or nine times,

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<v Speaker 2>and then his wife was also shot eight or nine times.

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<v Speaker 2>And by that point their adult daughter was able to

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<v Speaker 2>to another legislator's house and kill her and her husband.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think this brings up something that's really unexpected

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night and you don't expect it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>most people would answer the door. That's what you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>but now I think we could really think about and

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<v Speaker 2>but if you are and there's a single police officer

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<v Speaker 2>outside your door yelling for you to open the door,

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of police organizations actually recommend that you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahead and call your local police officers.

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<v Speaker 2>You call your local sheriff's office and ask if they

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<v Speaker 2>send anyone to your home. That's a very acceptable thing

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota police are now recommending specifically the legislators, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think people in general do is go ahead and make

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<v Speaker 2>that call, ask if they're supposed to be there. So

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's just such strange things we have to consider

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<v Speaker 2>in today's society, with so much violence and terrible behavior

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<v Speaker 2>that goes on. Whether we're talking about said at protests

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<v Speaker 2>that should have been peaceful, whether we're talking about gunmen

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<v Speaker 2>coming to doors of people. They disagree with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of very unnecessary, in tragic violence in our society. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this actually leads me to Iran, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a big, big topic today. What would

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<v Speaker 2>be the purpose of the United States engaging in Iran?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, there are a lot of people both on

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<v Speaker 2>another endless war in the Middle East. The US should

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<v Speaker 2>stay out, leave it alone. Israel's got it under control.

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<v Speaker 2>They believe that President Trump is more of an isolationist,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak, make America great again, not the world

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<v Speaker 2>hesitancy or objections from people saying, well, let's hold back.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we doing jumping in the Middle East again?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really important for that reason that people

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<v Speaker 2>know the very specific involvement that President Trump is suggesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I also will say that I think sometimes President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>general terms without sharing some of the details with people.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, some of that's going to be for national

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<v Speaker 2>security reasons, and sometimes it is because that's just how

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<v Speaker 2>he is. But the biggest thing that the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>at least that has been reported in some outlets and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes by the White House and press conferences, is the

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<v Speaker 2>bunker buster bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to look up what that was, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>this extremely giant bomb that can actually could take out

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<v Speaker 2>Iran's one of their most dangerous, dangerous nuclear facilities that

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<v Speaker 2>is in.

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<v Speaker 3>The side of the mountain.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually kind of like the facility we have Cheyenne

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain and down in the close to the springs here

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<v Speaker 2>in America that we have in Colorado. Iran has a

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<v Speaker 2>facility like that, but they have a nuclear facility similarly

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<v Speaker 2>built into the side of a mountain. Very very hard

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<v Speaker 2>to take out. I mean, there's a reason countries do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's difficult to get taken out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Israel doesn't have these kind of bombs, the bunker buster

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<v Speaker 2>and take out whatever is beneath.

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<v Speaker 3>We do in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Furthermore, we have the B two bombers that actually carry

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<v Speaker 2>because they're much too big, much too heavy. So Israel

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<v Speaker 3>In the US does have it.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have it currently located within flying distance of

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<v Speaker 2>Iran's facility. So this is the specific request that Israel's making,

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<v Speaker 2>At least I think Israel's making it of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure it's exactly what they would want is

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<v Speaker 2>for this nuclear facility to be taken out. So that

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<v Speaker 2>is specifically what President Trump is considering doing. I for

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<v Speaker 2>one thing, there is a giant, giant difference in a

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<v Speaker 2>very targeted, specific strike and a whole long war.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think when we're talking about US involvement in Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really important to know exactly what we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>and not.

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<v Speaker 3>I think blow it out of proportion.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to get into some clips after the

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<v Speaker 2>break of what how different people are analyzing this, what

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<v Speaker 2>Eight five five four zero, five eight two five five,

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<v Speaker 2>don't think with President Trump's view of foreign a US

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<v Speaker 2>involvement in foreign wars, that he's actually thinking about putting

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<v Speaker 2>our troops on the ground. The US commonly sends special

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<v Speaker 2>over to Israel and actually learn from the Masade, while

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<v Speaker 2>we also teach them, you know, things that we know

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of coordinations.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to consider that troops on the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you can, but it's really not the conventional

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<v Speaker 2>definition of troops on the ground, and I have not

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<v Speaker 2>heard that that's something that President Trump is really considering.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we need to separate our idea of

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<v Speaker 2>When a country like I Ran continue used to say,

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<v Speaker 3>We're peaceful.

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<v Speaker 2>Our production of nuclear is just peaceful, just for our

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<v Speaker 2>own country. And then two months later they say oh again,

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<v Speaker 2>they repeat their wish that Israel be wiped off the

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<v Speaker 2>map and say we have the ability to create these

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<v Speaker 2>weapons and we can and will anytime we want. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a very volatile, dangerous situation. You're on the

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Kapla Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll listen to a variety of congressmen and commentators on

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get into more discussion on Iran and contrast

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<v Speaker 2>is nobody talking about them selling off millions of acres

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<v Speaker 2>of BLM land and US Forest Service land in this bill,

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<v Speaker 3>This is something I won't support if they saw off

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<v Speaker 2>I happen to be a hunter and a conservationist, but

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<v Speaker 2>nobody on the right wants to talk about that. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a great question, and it's one that's

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<v Speaker 2>some federal land. So anyone else who has thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a few facts that are necessary. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Big Beautiful Bill is actually considering selling off zero point

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<v Speaker 2>five percent, so half a percent of all the federal

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<v Speaker 2>nation now. Still, I don't think most people are aware

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<v Speaker 2>of that small of an amount. But a recent poll

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<v Speaker 2>show that seventy one percent of Americans oppose the sale

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<v Speaker 3>They don't think this is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think when we're talking about it, there are

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<v Speaker 2>a few things to consider, like why in the world

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<v Speaker 2>would we do this in the first place. Why are

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<v Speaker 2>they even considering it? Well, there are a few reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them is that selling off some federal land

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<v Speaker 2>could allow for more energy production in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the federally owned land is very oil rich, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we could get more oil and either use

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<v Speaker 2>one possibility. Another one is, of course, the money from

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<v Speaker 2>the sale of the land could be significant, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>how much it is and who we sell it to.

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<v Speaker 2>Housing availability and affordability is the reason that most people

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<v Speaker 2>where we do have a lack of affordable housing, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they're saying, well, if we sold some of this land,

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<v Speaker 2>you can make more affordable housing. I'm personally curious who

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not even sure it's close to jobs or

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<v Speaker 2>buy that reason. But that's the reason that's being talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>And then another one that I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>private entities can manage the land better than the federal

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<v Speaker 2>government when the federal government has millions and millions of acres,

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<v Speaker 2>and for many years a number of the portions of

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<v Speaker 3>So it depends on which state.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, I mean, would Colorado acts they manage that better,

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<v Speaker 2>would California actually manage that better? We've certainly seen that

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<v Speaker 2>government has done. Now, if we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why not to sell the land, in addition to well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's considered US land, the land that belongs to everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's going to be the limit? When is the

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<v Speaker 2>There's been some talk of it being used as like

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<v Speaker 2>better make sure that doesn't happen, because if it does,

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<v Speaker 3>That would be a terrible, terrible idea.

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<v Speaker 2>But another reason, and I think this is the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>one that applies to Colorado of why a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are saying don't sell this land. There are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ranchers and cattle owners, specifically in Colorado who are.

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<v Speaker 3>Able to lease the federal land.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's actually the way that they're able to run

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<v Speaker 2>Is because they have a good deal to lease with

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government beneficial for the land. It's beneficial for

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, is the state going to allow ranchers to

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. The state is very anti agriculture

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<v Speaker 2>here in Colorado. And then of course there's some hunters

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<v Speaker 3>So it is a big issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't have a hugely strong opinion on whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not we should be selling off federal land. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>what matters more is who would get a hold of

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<v Speaker 2>it and who would own it, Because there's any risk

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<v Speaker 2>of China or an other country getting a hold of it,

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<v Speaker 2>that's absolutely awful. If it really does take away the

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<v Speaker 2>benefits that United States citizens enjoy from the federal land.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a big fan of that. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>should keep a lot of nature. I think we should

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<v Speaker 2>keep a lot of access, but half of a percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the land to allow for energy production, maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>more affordable housing and things like that, better management of

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<v Speaker 2>the lands. To states, I would actually do it, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure that is a terrible idea. Senator Mike Lee,

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<v Speaker 2>who tends to come down on a good side of

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<v Speaker 2>less government involvement, is supporting this provision, and he comes

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<v Speaker 2>by this. So I think as long as it's kept

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<v Speaker 2>very minimal, very specific who buys it, it might actually

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<v Speaker 2>be a decent idea. But we'll see what actually happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go ahead and move to it. Back to Iran. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do first by taking a caller, Robert

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<v Speaker 2>from Denver. Welcome to the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey are you I'm good?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 4>Good? I just wanted can I comment on the Iran situation? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Please?

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<v Speaker 4>Do? I think the United States is going to have

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with it? And because if you look it up,

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<v Speaker 4>Iran who's launched seven satellites? Okay, yeah, WELLUS are you

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<v Speaker 4>using hypersonic whiles against Israel right now, right five percent

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<v Speaker 4>by a dome and whatever you use. So I think,

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<v Speaker 4>and here the fact that brand took over our embassy

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<v Speaker 4>the Eyotel did, right, and we held our embassy staff

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<v Speaker 4>hostage for four hundred and forty four days, and they

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<v Speaker 4>call us the Great Satan, right, I think we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to have to deal with it. I don't think we

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<v Speaker 4>can just say we need to make peace and they're

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<v Speaker 4>able to stand down. I don't think that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>work when they're already launching, according to Wikipedia, seven satellites

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<v Speaker 4>in this space.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, they continue to develop their technology. Despite all

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<v Speaker 2>their claims for peace, their intentions are quite obviously to

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<v Speaker 2>you're right when we combine the technology they have, what

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<v Speaker 2>they've already shown they're willing to do, and what they

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<v Speaker 2>have done in the past with the specific situation, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's going on right now. Israel was able to

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<v Speaker 2>in Yemen, and with the Assad regime toppling in Syria.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a lot of Iranian allies that have

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<v Speaker 2>been taken out or significantly weakened. So in many ways,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a prime opportunity to you know, take away this

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<v Speaker 2>threat that absolutely exists, as you're saying, Robert, to the

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<v Speaker 2>United States as well as Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, well, I agree with everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, awesome, thanks for calling in. Good to have you.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. You also could call in.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have thoughts on the conflict in Iran and

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<v Speaker 2>what the US should do eight five five four zero

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I quite have time to play a

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<v Speaker 2>clip right now, but we have a Democrat congressman, a

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<v Speaker 2>Republican congressman, and then Charlie Kirk, all of whose opinions

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<v Speaker 2>we will get to you on the Iran conflicts, see

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<v Speaker 2>if they match up with any of yours, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a completely different idea. But I think to

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<v Speaker 2>Robert's point, to our last callers point, this really is

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<v Speaker 2>not just in Iran Israel conflict. That's been a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of American's objections to some of the former wars in.

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<v Speaker 3>The Middle East. They say, well, while.

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<v Speaker 2>It started out as the war on terror or weapons

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<v Speaker 2>not something the US should be directly involved with, according

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of these people who don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see involvement right now. But I don't think anyone is

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<v Speaker 2>suggesting that we need to go build a nation in Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a ton of people in Iran who would

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<v Speaker 2>love to see the current regime overthrown, but they can't

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and if the regime is fully taken out,

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<v Speaker 2>they can actually take care of their own country and

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<v Speaker 2>rebuild their own country. I don't think anyone suggesting the

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<v Speaker 2>US should go in and do that. I also think

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<v Speaker 2>it should be deeply considered, like what is your responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>in the world when you are the top superpower. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you can sit back as an isolationist and

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<v Speaker 2>and fight every conflict. But you also can't sit back

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<v Speaker 2>and just take care of yourself. The world falls to

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<v Speaker 2>superpower status. So we'll continue this discussion Iran when we

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<v Speaker 2>get back from this break. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the Dan Kapless Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get us some commentary with different congressman and Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk about the Iran conflict. Now, before I play these

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<v Speaker 2>the difference in these two congressmen. That Democrat Congressman Jim

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<v Speaker 3>And let's see how different it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is Representative Jim Heimes from Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 6>There's some chance you could have the best case scenario

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<v Speaker 6>setting aside right and wrong, in justice and injustice and

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<v Speaker 6>all that. There's some chance you could get the dream

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<v Speaker 6>they've had enough and they overthrow this regime, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you get a situation where you know, this incredibly educated,

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<v Speaker 6>very capable people decides that we're going to rejoin the

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<v Speaker 6>Company of decent Nations.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we're in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, there are fifty other scenarios that range from

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<v Speaker 6>you know, our naval base in Bahrain and their airbase

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<v Speaker 6>and Cutter being attacked, to the fall of the King

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<v Speaker 6>of Jordan. You know, the King of Jordan is hanging

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<v Speaker 6>on by his fingernails for a the larger reasons. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I could just go on for an hour about the

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<v Speaker 6>different scenarios that if you are knowledgeable on the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 6>you would say, hey, there's some chance of that too.

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<v Speaker 6>So long winded way of saying, if you know, we

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<v Speaker 6>can sort of joke about taco and you know, everything

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<v Speaker 6>is two weeks or four weeks or never. But I

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<v Speaker 6>think when you're talking about war in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 6>going slower than rather than faster is not a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair point that the ideal scenario would be for

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<v Speaker 2>the Iranian people themselves to overthrow the regime. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think they have tried that, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people there who would love to do that, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the kind of regime that is easily overthrown

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<v Speaker 2>for many reasons, one of the many being I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>think about North Korea.

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<v Speaker 3>How are those people supposed to overthrow that regime.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying those kind of things are impossible, but

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<v Speaker 2>these are two of the hardest nations in the entire

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<v Speaker 2>world for citizens who very deeply might want to overthrow

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<v Speaker 2>the regime to actually be able to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, yes, ideal.

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<v Speaker 2>Scenario, sure, practical scenario, I don't think so. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that Representative Heim's, Democrat congressman from Connecticut is wrong

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<v Speaker 2>that slow walking this a little bit. It's giving some

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<v Speaker 2>time to think about impulsively reacting to a scenario in

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East is the one is the right thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do? I mean, yes, a little bit of time

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<v Speaker 2>is good to make sure we're doing the right thing,

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<v Speaker 2>coordinating with allies I'm doing well. It's necessary and not

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<v Speaker 2>crossing lines that involves the US permanently in the Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East again, but too much time also, you can lose opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's listen to his one other comment before we

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<v Speaker 2>move on to Congress and Mark Alfred from Texas.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess I'm not surprised, right and you know, the

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<v Speaker 6>fact that we're not reading about a US attack on

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<v Speaker 6>Iran right now actually gives me a little bit of comfort.

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<v Speaker 6>I was asked this morning, you know, if you're advising

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<v Speaker 6>the president, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do?

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<v Speaker 6>And the advice I would give the president is, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you are in a point of maximum leverage right now,

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<v Speaker 6>right and off of you know, the regime has been

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<v Speaker 6>badly hurt, badly embarrassed. They're probably worried about what's going

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<v Speaker 6>to happen inside Iran with the Iranian people, So now

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<v Speaker 6>is the time to call them up and say you

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<v Speaker 6>give up any enrichment, which by the way, is the

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<v Speaker 6>deal from the old JCPOA and yes that had a

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<v Speaker 6>fuse on it, but you give up any enrichment. And

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<v Speaker 6>this stops today point a maximum leverage. So you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that we're not talking about a US attack

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<v Speaker 6>leaves me to believe that maybe that's what's happening, which

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<v Speaker 6>I think is good because Jim, I mean, listen, I'll

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<v Speaker 6>try to make this quick, but yeah, war in the

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<v Speaker 6>Middle East is a hell of a roll of the dice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'll just point out one thing from his comments.

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<v Speaker 2>He's saying he thinks perhaps by buying this two week window,

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<v Speaker 2>what President Trump may be doing is trying to negotiate some.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of deal with Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>It may very well be true, but to his point,

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<v Speaker 2>the exact thing that we would want in a negotiated

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<v Speaker 2>deal like that has been agreed to before. Iran has

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<v Speaker 2>said previously that they wouldn't make nuclear weapons. They've agreed

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<v Speaker 2>before to let inspectors in. We've seen where that's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>It is always only a temporary band aid when you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Iran. So is that really the right answer?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's move to a Congressman Mark Alford. He's talking to

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<v Speaker 2>John Berman on CNN, and let's get his thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think they have a nuclear ward?

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<v Speaker 7>Now I don't have any way of knowing that for sure,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm not going to wait around and find out.

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<v Speaker 8>The intelligence suggests that they certainly don't have a warhead,

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<v Speaker 8>and there's discrepancy over that.

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<v Speaker 5>Way they've made that threat.

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<v Speaker 7>They want instead we're the great Satan in their eyes.

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<v Speaker 8>Do they have an intercontinentibalistic missile?

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<v Speaker 7>Not to my knowledge, I don't have any intelligence.

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<v Speaker 8>Sim Burchett again, and these are his words here. He

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<v Speaker 8>was noting that the Iranians right now can't shoot a missile.

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<v Speaker 8>He said, past Greece. You know, obviously they're hitting Israel

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<v Speaker 8>right now. But his point was that the United States,

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<v Speaker 8>he does not believe, is that a direct threat to

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<v Speaker 8>the Iranian weaponry.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was really more John Berman from CNN than

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<v Speaker 2>Congressman Alford. Will get to more of his comments in

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<v Speaker 2>a second. But part of the problem with that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thinking is okay, so even if Iran doesn't right

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<v Speaker 2>now have an intercontinent o ballistic missile, do we wait

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<v Speaker 2>until they do to take out their nuclear facility, the

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<v Speaker 2>most dangerous one in their nation? When we currently have

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to do it? And if you weren't here

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<v Speaker 2>on the last segment, one thing we talked about with

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity that is being handed right now to Israel

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<v Speaker 2>and the United States is that typically Iran has much

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<v Speaker 2>more I guess, much stronger allies. I mean Syria, with

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<v Speaker 2>Asad used to be an ally, the Hooties and Hezbollah

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<v Speaker 2>and Hamas used to all be there in the alliance

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<v Speaker 2>in a way in different ways with Iran, and right

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<v Speaker 2>now all of them have either been weakened or eliminated.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is a very unique opportunity that currently exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's more about what Congress ban Alfred said.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, look, it is best to chop the head off

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<v Speaker 7>the snake now before it turns into a Medusa. And

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<v Speaker 7>once that starts, there is no turning back. I would

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<v Speaker 7>rather deal with the situation now, a problem that we've

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<v Speaker 7>been dealing with now for four to five decades, and

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<v Speaker 7>get a leader in Iran who can truly lead the

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<v Speaker 7>people and the will of the people who want normalcy.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was just over there in.

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<v Speaker 7>October in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, meeting with leaders, the

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<v Speaker 7>President of Egypt, King of Dellah. They want normal in

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<v Speaker 7>this region. They want someone to deal with Iran. They

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<v Speaker 7>won't come out publicly and say remove the Ayatola, but

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<v Speaker 7>they want some normalcy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and this is I think that's right. That's part

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<v Speaker 2>of the exact problem that goes on. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of countries that aren't going to take it on themselves

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, and in some cases can't, but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't really like the situation there either. And this is,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, as we all know, what happens when you

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<v Speaker 2>have a dictator cemented in a country for decades upon

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<v Speaker 2>decades upon decades. It becomes even more difficult for the

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<v Speaker 2>people of that nation to overthrow that kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>regime because the control is more intense than most Americans

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<v Speaker 2>could even imagine. And the ability to just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>throw off the bans of that particular government isn't something simple.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's something we love to think about as Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we started our own country. Throw off the

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<v Speaker 2>bands of a nation who thinks they can govern us,

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<v Speaker 2>who thinks they can send soldiers into our homes, who

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<v Speaker 2>thinks they can imprison us whenever they want, And we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to take into our own hands, create a constitution

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<v Speaker 2>and create this nation. And here we are the most

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<v Speaker 2>successful nation in the world who is able.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is not that easy when you are under

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of control that Iran, that North Korea are under.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of people who are more

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<v Speaker 2>isolationists in their opinion. Don't like this kind of thought,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really do think it is part of the

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<v Speaker 2>job of being the world's greatest superpower is to say, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>our own nation should be our priority. Yes it should

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<v Speaker 2>be America first, but America first doesn't mean America only.

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<v Speaker 2>And so saying we do have summer responsibility to make

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<v Speaker 2>the world a secure place.

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<v Speaker 3>And Iran is a threat to us as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether again, whether or not they have that intercontinental ballistic

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<v Speaker 2>missile now, which I really don't think anyone thinks that

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<v Speaker 2>they do have that capability at the moment, they would

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<v Speaker 2>love to develop it. How do we know where their

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<v Speaker 2>alliance with Russia is going to take them one day.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of volatility in this situation. Iran has

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<v Speaker 2>proven that they're not the kind of nation to stick

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<v Speaker 2>to the agreements they make. They're not the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>nation that listens to the other nations around them, like

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<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia and Jordan and says, you know, maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>should take less of a hardline approach and actually take

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<v Speaker 2>it upon ourselves to create peace.

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<v Speaker 3>They're nowhere near.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to do that with the current leadership they have,

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<v Speaker 2>and that effects not only Israel but also Europe and

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<v Speaker 2>also us here at home in America. So we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts in the next segment. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call in a five five four zero five eight two

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<v Speaker 2>five five, or you can text them to Dan at

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<v Speaker 2>five seven seven three nine.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep it here.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the Dan Capla Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kristy Burton Brown talking about Iran and what exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the United States should do. In the last segment, we

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<v Speaker 2>contrasted some thoughts from Representative Jim Hines, a Democrat from Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 2>and Representative Mark Alford, a Congressman from Texas. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to I have some texts actually to get to both

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<v Speaker 2>on Iran and on the sale of federal land. Lots

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<v Speaker 2>of thoughts on that today, which is a very important

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<v Speaker 2>issue and something that's definitely in the big Beautiful Bill

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<v Speaker 2>as they call it right now, which would specifically affect

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<v Speaker 2>Western states like Colorado. So loo get to that in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, but I do want to play some of

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk's thoughts on ran here we are.

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<v Speaker 9>If we were to do forceful regime change sounds good,

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<v Speaker 9>Lindsay Graham is cheering for that. What would happen to

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<v Speaker 9>the refugees? Where would they go? Millions of people going

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<v Speaker 9>to the West. The country could fall into civil war.

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<v Speaker 9>And understand, there they're warriors there, These.

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<v Speaker 3>Are the Persians.

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<v Speaker 9>They were a great power for a thousand years. Not

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<v Speaker 9>even the Romans could defeat Persia. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 9>they're comparable to our marines or to our air force,

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<v Speaker 9>but is that really the battle that we want.

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<v Speaker 3>In front of us?

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<v Speaker 9>And President Trump understands this astute lee. He is again

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<v Speaker 9>he understand that so many people are saying, you must

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<v Speaker 9>bomb right now, you must bomb right now, and other

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<v Speaker 9>people equally say, oh, don't worry about it. Who cares

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<v Speaker 9>if Iran gets a nuclear weapon? So President Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 9>has something that the history books will write about. This

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<v Speaker 9>is what legends are made of. This is the moment

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<v Speaker 9>that President Trump was elected for.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I can agree with him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is certainly going to be a historical moment, whether

641
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<v Speaker 2>or not the US jumps in and actually does the

642
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.240
<v Speaker 2>one thing we can do that Israel cannot do, which

643
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>has use those bunker buster bombs to take out Iran's

644
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 2>nuclear facility in the mountains. We're the only ones with

645
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that bomb. We are the only ones with the bomber,

646
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>the B two that can take it in and do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it grew very.

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<v Speaker 2>Historical moment that will set the stage for the future

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<v Speaker 2>because it will either completely eliminate Iran's ability to produce

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear weapons or will leave them with a limited ability

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<v Speaker 2>to do so, which I'm not at all condenced.

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<v Speaker 3>Is good for anyone in the world, including ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I fully agree with Tarlie Kirk on

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<v Speaker 2>the whole. Not even the Romans could defeat Persia. These

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<v Speaker 2>are warriors. I mean, any country is going to deeply

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and defend themselves fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Could there turn into a civil war?

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<v Speaker 2>And Iran sure there could, there's any Persians on both

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<v Speaker 2>sides of that. I'm not really sure that's a legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>reason to not do a strike, a targeted strike. Most

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<v Speaker 2>people in the US are actually not talking about US

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00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 2>going in and an acting regime change, us going in

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00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.759
<v Speaker 2>and doing nation building. That's really not the issue here.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll always hear a few people out there talking about it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Lindsey Graham is talking about it. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that the prevailing thought among people in the US government.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, we're talking about a very targeted strike and

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<v Speaker 2>very targeted involvement, not even a full scale war, something

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<v Speaker 2>the United States very specifically can do to go in

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<v Speaker 2>and eliminate the ability of Iran to develop the kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of weapons that could attack US. I also think it's

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<v Speaker 2>very important for people to remember what Iran has been

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<v Speaker 2>involved with over the year since at least the eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>if not before, with American soldiers and with American citizens

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<v Speaker 2>launching attacks and an embassy holding people hostage. They were

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who were launching a lot of the attacks

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00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.079
<v Speaker 2>on our soldiers in Iraq like that was done by

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<v Speaker 2>proxies of Iran, and I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>forget that that that was them doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same regime that's in charge right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Every opportunity that they have to attack Americans when we're

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere near close by, they take it. And it's been

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<v Speaker 2>extremely deadly for a lot of our military members. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is not just a threat to Israel. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a threat to the US and our military men and

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00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>women for quite some time. Let's listen to another clip

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<v Speaker 2>from Charlie Kirk, though, talking about how Trump needs to

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<v Speaker 2>balance two specific things as he's looking about potential involvement

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<v Speaker 2>in Iran.

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<v Speaker 9>The highest level statesman can only handle and can only manage,

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<v Speaker 9>and that is to be able to balance two things.

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<v Speaker 9>Number One, America does not want Iran to get a

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<v Speaker 9>nuclear bomb, but number two, America does not want, in

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<v Speaker 9>any way, shape or form to have a long quagmire

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<v Speaker 9>in the Middle East to try to get into another

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<v Speaker 9>Iraq or Libya or Syria or Afghanistan. And so it

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<v Speaker 9>is a very difficult thread to needle a high wire act.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, we can agree it's difficult, but actually I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure that it's quite that difficult. To be perfectly honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I think if you there is always a

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<v Speaker 2>middle ground. It's not always like, oh my goodness, we

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<v Speaker 2>do nothing, or oh my goodness, we do complete regime change.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Charlie Kirk is right.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't want Iran to have a nuclear bomb or

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<v Speaker 2>even the ability to build it, because, as we discussed

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<v Speaker 2>on an earlier segment, that's what Iran constantly goes back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth between, Oh, we have the capability to build it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's really only for self defense. It's really only

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<v Speaker 2>for ourselves. Oh wait, now we can absolutely build it,

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00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and we could launch it on Israel anytime we want it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they talk out of both sides of their mouth,

712
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<v Speaker 2>because they absolutely would take any opportunity they could to

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<v Speaker 2>destroy Israel or destroy.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we don't want them to have a nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>bomb for a whole lot of reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think there's a very clear path.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really not an either or, it's go straight up

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<v Speaker 2>the middle to a very targeted strike that eliminates the

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00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 2>potential for them building a nuclear bomb, and Israel's going

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<v Speaker 2>to go ahead and continue to take their entire regime out.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been very successful so far. I know they're going

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<v Speaker 2>for the Ayatola himself, so hopefully it is real successful

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<v Speaker 2>in that. I think Israel can handle a lot of this.

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<v Speaker 2>They already are handling a lot of it. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are some specific things that only the US can do

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<v Speaker 2>that Israel cannot do, and one of those is taking

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<v Speaker 2>out this very specific and nuclear facility. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that is a very clear balance between doing absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 2>and letting them have the capability to build a nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>bomb and going so far as to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>let's nation build, let's resume change. We have seen that

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<v Speaker 2>be unsuccessful in the Middle East, and we've gone that

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<v Speaker 2>far even with good intentions. So just shoot straight up

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<v Speaker 2>the middle and do a very targeted strike, do what

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<v Speaker 2>only the US can uniquely do. I really don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a super hard call. Now, I am not the president.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump is, so we'll see what he decides to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just don't think it's that complicated or that

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to make a decision like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Text line in the limited time I had before I

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<v Speaker 2>have to take another break. Someone saying Iran is currently

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<v Speaker 2>occupied by an illegal Islamic regime. Obama had the chance

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<v Speaker 2>to help the Iranian people overthrow their oppressors, but he

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<v Speaker 2>turned his back on the Iranian students and left them

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<v Speaker 2>to be slaughtered. Completely agree with you that President Obama

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<v Speaker 2>greatly mishandled every opportunity that he had to help there

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<v Speaker 2>be any change in Iran, did a horrible deal with them,

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<v Speaker 2>gave them lots of money, bad decisions all up and

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<v Speaker 2>down there. You know, again, I'm not the president, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's much harder when you're on the inside

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<v Speaker 2>actually having to weigh all the information, all the security

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence and everything that you're getting.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Easy to be sort of an armchair quarterback and say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he never should have done any of that. I still

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he should have, but it probably was a

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<v Speaker 2>harder decision than it appears.

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<v Speaker 3>To be from my end.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've always thought that Obama made a huge, huge

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<v Speaker 2>mistake with Iran. Another text saying, I think Iran in

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<v Speaker 2>the world is calling Trump's bluff, believing he will do

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<v Speaker 2>nothing over the nukes, bankrupting our already lost country like

765
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<v Speaker 2>he did his company in the ninety funny comment there

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<v Speaker 2>at the end. But you know, I actually think I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you that Iran probably believes that, because of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's more isolationist America First policies, that he isn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything, that He's going to threaten, that he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to try and get them to negotiate and agree

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<v Speaker 2>to some sort of inspection, which would be very humiliating

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<v Speaker 2>for Iran even.

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<v Speaker 3>To go that far.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think they're not completely convinced that he

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<v Speaker 2>will actually order a strike like this. I'm not completely

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<v Speaker 2>convinced that he's going to order a strike like this

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<v Speaker 2>just based on, you know, probably some of the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to get from his own party to like

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<v Speaker 2>remain focused on America America only. But as I've said before,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think that America first means America only.

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<v Speaker 2>We can still do limited, targeted things around the world

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<v Speaker 2>that help our allies, that keep the world safe, that

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<v Speaker 2>accept the responsibility we have as a superpower. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you saying that they're probably calling his bluff.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's very.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes he's very unpredictable, and I think that you know,

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00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.280
<v Speaker 2>he calls their bluff too and says, okay, fine, here,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I'm actually going to do, and often takes

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<v Speaker 2>a very strong position that does advance American interests, not

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<v Speaker 2>only here.

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<v Speaker 3>At home but abroad.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll find out apparently the next less than two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks what's going to happen here the Dan Kaplis Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Christy Burton Brown. Keep your comments coming, text them

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<v Speaker 2>to five seven seven three nine, address them to Dan

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<v Speaker 2>or call over the break eight five five four zero

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<v Speaker 2>five eight two five five will dive back into the

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<v Speaker 2>sale of federal lands when we come back over the break,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of Texters have interest in that as well.