WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.240 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:08.759 Okay, just a couple of quick things. 5 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:13.160 Oh, just a hot hot note here, FEDS raised interest 6 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:15.599 rates are half a point taking the more aggressive stance. 7 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:18.359 We'll get to that here in a second. Hey guys, Shannon, 8 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:21.600 what the heck are you still doing there in the 9 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:25.399 Carolina Kiddo? I thought the game was over with on Sunday. 10 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:27.120 It is Wednesday. 11 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:33.439 Come home unless you're planning on moving there. Okay, love 12 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.159 your show, Love you guys. Bye. 13 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:36.880 On a side note, I just got a text from 14 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.200 your husband that asked, is there any way that you 15 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:42.759 might be able to stay in Pittsburgh. 16 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:44.280 For the next week. Yeah? 17 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:47.520 No, I will have you know. He misses me and 18 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:51.840 I want to be at home. The Chargers are staying 19 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:54.240 here this week because they play in Pittsburgh on Sunday, 20 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:56.280 So the coaches wanted to keep the team on the 21 00:00:56.320 --> 00:00:59.039 East Coast rather than fly back and forth to wear 22 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:01.679 and tear on the body and you know, getting off schedule. 23 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.799 And this way they'll be acclimated to the time change 24 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:05.159 and all of that, Right, good. 25 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:07.959 I like that reason. I mean I would have preferred 26 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:09.680 if you had gone to London. I mean that would 27 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:11.760 have made more sense, or Berlin or something like that. 28 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:14.079 Right the last time. 29 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:17.079 Yeah, remember though, Yeah, we stayed in Cleveland for a 30 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.439 week before going on to the game in London, which 31 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:20.000 made sense. 32 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:22.200 Is probably much better. 33 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:25.959 Than Yeah, in hindsight, aside from having dinner last night, 34 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.439 I would have gone back. I should have gone back 35 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:30.799 and forth, because there's not a lot to. 36 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.680 Do here, and I'm in this studio that's the size 37 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:34.879 of a closet. 38 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:37.599 And there's no window, and poor Jacob has to just 39 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:40.680 listen to me ramble and the brakes about nothing. 40 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.920 About time he gets to listen instead of me. But 41 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:44.560 last night, what was that? 42 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:44.799 Oh? 43 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:47.840 Last night was the dinner with your mom, your biolot? 44 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:48.879 Right, all right, here's the other. 45 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:54.959 Oh, dare you guys compare dogs autism to a child's autism? 46 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.799 Not what you guys are, not what we were doing, 47 00:01:58.400 --> 00:01:59.920 not at all what we were doing. 48 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:03.280 In fact, I was trying to make the very specific 49 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:10.680 delineation that that veterinarians say dogs don't get or have autism. 50 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:14.639 Oh, speaker, Johnson's spending plan hits the floor today. It's 51 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:15.439 where we kick off. 52 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:21.599 Watch swamp is horrible. The government doesn't work. Man, make 53 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.919 it like a reality TV show, A bad noose. Always 54 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:28.039 a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C. 55 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:32.280 Hey Joe, a town all too clearly built on a 56 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:34.479 swamp and in so many ways. 57 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:37.280 Still a swamp. Watch of malarkey. Nobody said, drained the swamp. 58 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:43.680 I said, Oh, that's so Heph. You know the thing, Okay, 59 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:49.000 So if this spending plan fails, it will publicly highlight 60 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:52.360 what some GOP members have been saying privately for days. 61 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:55.960 They cannot pass any funding bill on their own. As 62 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:59.199 of late last week, about ten GOP members were poised 63 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:02.000 to vote no on this. Some Republicans are hoping that 64 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.400 once the bill fails, it'll force Mike Johnson and the 65 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.000 rest of the conference to turn to a backup plan. 66 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:09.520 Yeah, and there's a lot that goes into this game. 67 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:12.479 This isn't just spending bills that this happens. There's a 68 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:14.879 lot that goes into the game of I'm going to 69 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.240 put it up for a vote so that you are 70 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:20.560 on the record voting for or against whatever it is, 71 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.360 so that you can hold it against the other party 72 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:25.599 or the other candidate, or however you want to do that. 73 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:30.560 And this seems like there are sort of baked into 74 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:35.319 this legislative process. There are these votes that we know 75 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:40.159 are doomed that will then sort of change the tactics 76 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:44.599 for whatever negotiation has to come next. Mike Johnson's plan 77 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.719 calls for extending funding at current spending levels for six 78 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:51.680 months through March. Calling it or linking it, I should 79 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.680 say with the Save Act, which is legislation that Trump 80 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:58.039 likes that would require people show proof of citizenship in 81 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:04.000 order to register to vote. The way it is, I 82 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:07.000 guess you would say whipped. Now in terms of the 83 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:12.199 number of votes, it would be failing because there are 84 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:15.919 a number of Republican lawmakers, some of them fiscal conservatives, 85 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:19.279 some of them defense hawks, have vowed to tank this thing. 86 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.439 Mike Johnson does not look like the once rising star 87 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:26.000 that I thought he was. In the first eighteen months 88 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:30.639 of this Congress, only seventy laws were enacted. Calculations by 89 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.920 political scientists Tobin Grant, who tracks congressional output, put this 90 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:40.240 Congress on course to be the do nothingnesshingest wow do 91 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:44.399 nothingest since eighteen fifty nine to eighteen sixty one. That's 92 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:45.920 when the Union was dissolving. 93 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:50.600 That's just great, that's a nice poor tends well for 94 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:51.120 the future. 95 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:55.800 They say that his house, Johnson's house isn't merely unproductive, 96 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:59.519 it is lunatic. That Republicans have filled their committee hearings 97 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:03.600 and their bills with white nationalist attacks on racial diversity 98 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:04.319 and immigrants. 99 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:04.920 It's there. 100 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:09.079 They're just there's just too much fat and weird far 101 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:10.720 right fringe causes. 102 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.199 I guess that that are just gumming everything up. 103 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.199 Yeah, well, it's also it's not just the far right 104 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:23.000 caught far right because they won't they won't do this. 105 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:25.879 And they say that Mike Johnson is a weenie whatever 106 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:29.240 words they're using behind closed doors, because he's not standing 107 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:32.519 up to Democrats and I it seems like, if if 108 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:35.759 you follow what happened to Kevin McCarthy at the beginning 109 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.000 of this year when they ousted him as a Speaker 110 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:42.360 of the House, his argument in favor of staying was, 111 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:45.639 or his defense of his behavior as Speaker of the 112 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:50.040 House was, listen, we can't just stop being a government. 113 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:54.360 We can't just shut everything down, because that's not only 114 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:57.639 bad for the thousand, hundreds of thousands of people who 115 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.600 work for the federal government and rely on federal old dollars. 116 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:05.279 It's an awful it's an awful message to send internationally 117 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:09.759 about what condition this country is in. And Mike Johnson, 118 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:13.040 I feel like, got in there and realize once he 119 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:17.120 sits behind that speaker's desk and holds that gavel. Uh Yeah, 120 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:20.839 there is a lot of power that I wield and 121 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:22.959 I need to make sure that I do this carefully 122 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.240 so as to not grind this government to a hall, 123 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:29.279 even if I believe that it should because you want 124 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:32.759 to control spending or whatever, but also because we are 125 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:37.079 in a very precarious time internationally and we have to 126 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:43.720 be able to have some semblance of normalcy, togetherness, cooperation whatever. 127 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.600 We're talking crazy now, I know, But that's why everybody's 128 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:49.600 so angry at him. At least the people in the 129 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:52.279 fringes of his party are so angry with Mike Johnson 130 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:55.800 because they're saying he's not sticking up for what Republicans 131 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:58.480 want to stick up for. Angels blank the White Sox 132 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:01.600 yesterday five to nothing. They will play an early afternoon 133 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:04.839 game in Anaheim, a couple hours from now. Dodgers lost 134 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.519 to the Marlins eleven to nine. But but Shoho Tani 135 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.399 did hit his forty eight home run of the year 136 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:13.800 on his way to his first what could be fifty 137 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.079 to fifty season, anybody's fifty to fifty season, fifty home runs, 138 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:20.360 fifty stolen bases. He also has forty eight stolen bases 139 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:23.319 right now, but he cannot steal a base if he 140 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.399 strikes out three times and only hits home runs. 141 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.040 So they play again today. 142 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:36.079 The Federal Reserve announced, as you word in Deborah's news, 143 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.560 that it is lowering interest rates by half a percentage point, 144 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:44.560 penciled in two more cuts before the end of the year. 145 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:49.199 This is a larger then standard rate cut. 146 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.720 A little more aggressive than a lot of people were 147 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:56.279 suggesting would be necessary, but that they were not involved 148 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.439 in the discussions by the Fed. So the reaction on 149 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:01.560 Wall Street is been positive. Right now, the dall is 150 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:03.519 up one hundred and eighty eight points NASDAK and S 151 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.120 and P five hundred also up in positive territory where 152 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:10.759 they had been below they'd been underwater most of the morning. 153 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:14.920 It kind of shows that they're nervous about the labor market, 154 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.759 which has been rather weak. Layoffs do remain low, but 155 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:23.920 job opportunities have dwindled. Employment has been pushed up gradually, 156 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:27.560 and a further rise in joblessness could be more painful 157 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:29.040 and more swift. 158 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:33.759 Yeah, they said that really there's one Gross domestic product 159 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:37.639 is really the strongest economic indicator as of right now, 160 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:40.360 should be at about a three percent annual pace for 161 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:44.840 the third quarter. And if that's the case, then they're 162 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:47.600 shying away from the calls that this is we are 163 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:51.000 expected to get into a recession. They're saying if the 164 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.240 GDP stays up at three percent as predicted, then we're 165 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.440 going to be in good shape and that this could 166 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:02.159 we could withstand whatever stress comes out on the economy 167 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:03.200 as a result of these. 168 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:07.960 But Senator Chuck Grassley has been investigating what happened in 169 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:14.120 Butler County, Pennsylvania during that assassination attempt, and he says 170 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:18.159 he has figured out that Secret Service agents assured the 171 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.120 local law enforcement that they would secure that building that 172 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:28.279 the would be assassin fired his weapon from Butler County. 173 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:32.039 Law enforcement officials stated that at separate times during the walkthrough, 174 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:36.399 when they reiterated their concerns to the agents and encounter 175 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:41.679 sniper about securing that building, the agents responded, we will take. 176 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:41.960 Care of it. 177 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:49.159 So the Iowa Senator Grassley is trying to figure out 178 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:52.159 whether the Butler Butler County law enforcement officials claim is 179 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:55.159 true and if so, what did the Secret Service do 180 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:57.519 to take care of it? To use their words, and 181 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:00.240 he said, in the weeks after that first assassination should 182 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:04.360 attempt that the interim had The acting head of the 183 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:07.840 Secret Service told senators what was communicated is that the 184 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.600 locals had a plan and that they had been there 185 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:13.840 before in regard to the roof of that building, and 186 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:17.159 this was directly disputed by the law enforcement officials. Interviews 187 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:19.759 with Grassley staff, how do you determine? How do you 188 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:21.320 how do you figure that out? You get all those 189 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:25.080 guys that were involved in that pre rally briefing together 190 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:28.000 in a room and say what exactly did you say? 191 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:29.679 And now say it in front of the guy that 192 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.399 you said it before to see if there's any conflict 193 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:34.120 or confusion about what it was. 194 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:40.480 So you know how we complain about sorry side note, 195 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:41.679 you know how. 196 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:43.639 We can you got you got very quiet, like someone's 197 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:44.519 here that can hear you? 198 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:49.480 Well, somebody came in. Oh, and you know how we 199 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:53.360 complain about the temperature in our studio. How it gets 200 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:56.679 really cold and there's no way to control it. Yes, well, 201 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:00.080 they actually have a way to control the temperature in 202 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:04.879 these studios, but apparently they're connected. So this guy comes 203 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:08.039 in and I guess I have the thermostat in here. 204 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.320 This guy comes in, he goes, I just oh sorry, 205 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:12.000 I just gotta I gotta lower this because it gets 206 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:14.440 really hot in my studio. So he lowers it like 207 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:17.960 freaking ten degrees. So now it's like freezing in here. 208 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.039 Why without regard to the fact that it's going to 209 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:26.919 change your right right. 210 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.519 Well, maybe I don't matter because I'm a visitor. But yeah, 211 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:36.120 that was a bold move. Yikes, it's gonna be okay, 212 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.799 we'll survive this. I brought a jacket for this very inevitability. 213 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:45.000 The update on campaign stuff. 214 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.320 Vice President Harris during an address today to the Congressionalist 215 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:53.279 Panic Caucus Institute's Leadership Conference in DC, said if Donald 216 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:56.840 Trump returns to office, there will be mass deportations and 217 00:11:57.159 --> 00:12:01.480 massive detention camps he gets back in office. Trump, like 218 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.279 I said, is planning to hold a rally later tonight 219 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:09.159 in Uniondale, New York the Nassau County Coliseum on Long Island. 220 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:11.600 New York is not a swing state, but it is 221 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.600 interesting he did hold a rally. 222 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:17.080 There was it a couple of weeks. 223 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:19.840 I want to say it was just before the assassination 224 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:22.720 attempt in New York and had a pretty great turnout 225 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:26.919 for a state that is as blue as it is. Obviously, 226 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:31.279 Kamala Harris is favored to carry New York handily when 227 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.679 it comes to November, but there are several house districts 228 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:36.559 in the state of New York that are still in 229 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:39.320 play and could determine which party takes control of the 230 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:42.399 house coming up in November, So that maybe at least 231 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:46.960 one of the reasons why former President Trump is concentrating 232 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:47.960 on New York. 233 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:53.159 Donald Trump Junior's apparent new squeeze that socialite Bettina Anderson 234 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:57.279 can be seen in new video schmoozing with Donald Trump 235 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:01.320 Junior and his ex wife and their daughter with no 236 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:09.039 sign of fiance, Kimberly Gilfoyle. She was spotted locking lips 237 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:12.799 with Donald Trump Junior last month. She's now been pictured 238 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:15.960 rubbing elbows with other members of the Trump clan at 239 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.639 an intimate party in Jupiter, Florida last month. 240 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:22.240 Uh oh, what are we going to do now what 241 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:25.440 if that? What if that love story doesn't finish correctly? 242 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:29.200 What if there's no happy, happily ever after between Don 243 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:29.799 and Kimberly? 244 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:31.440 Careful? 245 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:31.679 There? 246 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:36.039 What a little close to the edge? Me? Yeah? What 247 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:39.399 are you talking about? Did you hear yourself? No? Okay? Good? 248 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:46.200 Never mind? Then did I say bad word? No? I'll 249 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:47.360 tell you later, Okay. 250 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.480 It said to be an open secret, this dalliance, an 251 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:56.600 open secret in Palm Beach that they've frequently been spotted 252 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:57.960 enjoying each other's company. 253 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:00.159 I know what I said. I got it, Okay, I 254 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:02.919 got Justin Warsham has joined us. 255 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:09.799 We talked to Justin about things parenting because he is 256 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:11.720 so neck deep in this right now. 257 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:14.759 Oh it's my whole life. It's my Yeah, I love it. 258 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:15.399 Me smile. 259 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.840 Oh good, you're happy that I have teenagers. I'll be honest. 260 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:21.679 I'll be honest. I've spent probably what last probably two 261 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:24.559 or three months. I feel like I've been in a slump, 262 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.279 especially with my younger son, who just turned thirteen in June, 263 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.000 and a lot of that is like everything is so 264 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.120 magical right now. Not to ruin this moment for you, Gary, 265 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:33.080 because I know it's coming. 266 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:34.159 Back around to come me wrong. 267 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:38.840 But the older kid doesn't have a girlfriend. They split 268 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:40.799 up over the over the summer break. 269 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:42.759 I'm half said to hear. 270 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:45.639 That, Yeah, it's I mean, I think, honestly, I think 271 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.519 that my son went through I don't know if you 272 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.679 experienced this, Gary or Shannon. You experienced it with maybe 273 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:54.159 another guy or yourself in a relationship when you were younger. 274 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:57.039 But it's like he was the very giving person and 275 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:59.360 she needed more. This is not a slam on this 276 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.519 young lady. I I think she's a fantastic young woman. 277 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:04.360 I just I experienced this as a boyfriend in high school, 278 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:05.960 where you would have these girls that they just they 279 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.399 needed and needed. And I was also a good junk 280 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:09.559 at the time, the needy one in. 281 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:11.840 Relationship than for the. 282 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:17.440 But that's really what it was, and it just wasn't working. 283 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:20.039 And he did it very maturely, like took he met 284 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:21.840 her at a coffee shop and like they had a 285 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:24.720 conversation and he like at some point she even said like, 286 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:26.559 do you think we could get back together later on? 287 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:30.320 And shell no, he said, he goes, well, honestly, I 288 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:32.279 think it's too early to make any kind of promise. 289 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:34.360 One way or the other. He goes, but I would 290 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:36.399 like for us to stay friends, and she. 291 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:39.279 Just needed more of his attention and time. 292 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:42.600 I think it was that he before this, months before this, 293 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:44.879 he had had this conversation when we had a family 294 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:46.960 dinner and he said he was just annoyed with something 295 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:48.440 that he had gotten text and he said, you know, 296 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:50.279 you know how he goes, You know how you have 297 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:53.440 like a conversation and you feel like you've resolved the issue, right, 298 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:54.799 And I go yeah, and he goes, well, then it 299 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:56.679 like three weeks and it's like it's the same issue, 300 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:59.879 and I'm like, we already resolved that. And my wife goes, oh, 301 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:01.679 that goes away with age, and I kind of looked 302 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:03.519 at does not. 303 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:08.919 That's a woman. That's what women do. We do this routine. 304 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:12.720 I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but. 305 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:24.039 I know my limitations. We oh boy, uh. 306 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.720 Well, this is this is a very interesting story, this 307 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:26.799 idea of co sleeping with your kids. 308 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:28.840 Every once in a while I come across stories and 309 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:31.799 this is a doubleheader today that I think just urry 310 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.919 sweat a little of either anger or disappointment or all 311 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:35.480 of them. 312 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:36.559 Like at the same time. 313 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:38.759 This makes me as happy as you are to be 314 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:41.039 happy that I have teenagers when I bring these kinds 315 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:43.440 of stories. Yes, sleeping with your kids, every kid is 316 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:46.200 different and every kid needs different things as they're growing up. 317 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:50.799 And I completely understand that I can count on one hand. 318 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:55.120 I have two children, adult children. Now I can count on. 319 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:59.279 One hand the number of times that they slept with 320 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:06.079 us m hm h after the age of six months. 321 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:08.519 Yep, one one hand. 322 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:10.039 It just was not a thing. 323 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:13.000 And by with would you even describe the bascinette that 324 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:14.960 sits in the bedroom with you for like the first 325 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.119 six months, because the American Academy of Pediatrics says that 326 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:20.440 it should be the first six months you should keep 327 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:23.559 an infant because it drastically reduces the chances of SIDS, 328 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:25.880 which is interesting because they also say that there is 329 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.200 no data to support that statement. They have no way 330 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.079 of proving and equivocally that somehow you being in the 331 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:35.119 same room limits the CIDs. That's the whole idea of it. 332 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.039 It happened suddenly, Well, I was awful. 333 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:39.480 My parents had to put a lock on their door 334 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:42.839 because I was such a bad sleeper, and I you know, 335 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:46.319 I was like six seven eight running down the hall 336 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.480 with like a bad dream or something. And I would 337 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.200 just remember one night and the door was locked and 338 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.319 I was like pounded on the door like and they 339 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:58.440 just like it was just like cold turkey. It was like, nope, 340 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:00.759 we're not doing this anymore. Just bigre it out. If 341 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.200 you can go self soothe, figure it out. You had 342 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:06.440 a bad dream, what have you, Just deal with it 343 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.359 and then and then it went away. But it was 344 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:09.759 I remember that. 345 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:11.440 In my house, if the door was locked, you did 346 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:14.640 not want to go in there. That was something was happening, 347 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:16.920 something was going down. Tommy and Daddy were moving furniture. 348 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:22.160 Good for them, Good for them. I mean, there are 349 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.279 I have. I have just beautiful memories. 350 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:27.160 I I remember the times when I would I would 351 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:31.240 go to bed, for example, infant child sleeping on my chest. 352 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:31.920 That was grand. 353 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:33.559 And I'd wake up and I'd have the saying for 354 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:36.720 my ribs caving in on themselves. But I was I 355 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.440 just remember that it was such a guttural, you know, 356 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:43.319 basic so much oxytocin. 357 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:43.799 Something like that. 358 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:47.519 Yeah, but after that six months, that thing goes in 359 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:49.599 the in the bassinet or the crib or whatever. 360 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:50.559 That's where it stays. 361 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:52.680 The thing you said, you know what I mean. 362 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:57.839 I had on the podcast A Bunch doctor Craig Cannaperry. 363 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:00.839 He's the head of the Yale Sleep Center, and he's like, 364 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.559 his whole life is studying sleep and he actually said, 365 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:07.279 based on his research there, this is actual research that 366 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.599 infants and adults are better off sleeping in entirely separate rooms, 367 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:14.799 that both parties actually sleep better if they're not even 368 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:17.880 in the same room. He's also very adamant that you 369 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:20.319 do not sleep in the same bed. Obviously. The only 370 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:22.119 reason I think that it was such a big deal 371 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.480 for my wife and I is that my mom was 372 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:28.559 a respiratory therapist, and her only advice, her only parental advice, 373 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:30.599 she said, please, no matter how tired you get, no 374 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:32.480 matter how much you think it helps, do not let 375 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.799 the baby sleep with you in bed, because she had 376 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:37.519 so many babies come in that had some parents had 377 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:40.119 rolled over and suffocated them and then they were trying 378 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.079 to save the baby. She goes, it's not worth it. 379 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:44.319 And when you read through this article that I found, 380 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:45.480 it's a lot of like. 381 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.640 It's just easier, it's just better. 382 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.640 And it really speaks to this kind of new modern 383 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:53.680 movement of parenting of trying to take the path of 384 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:57.200 least resistance regardless of what's better for the kid. We 385 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:00.200 seem to be getting away from this idea that a 386 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:02.200 big part of parenting is to prepare them to be 387 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.559 on their own and to learn to deal with some 388 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:08.559 difficulty and some strife. I think some other interesting facts 389 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.200 that doctor Canna Perry brought up. He's a huge advocate 390 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:13.279 on shifting back the high school start time to like 391 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:15.720 nine or ten o'clock in the morning, because he says, 392 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.640 according to the biology of it, that a teenager should 393 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.240 not go to bed until probably between eleven PM and 394 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:24.160 midnight because of just the way that their body works, 395 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.160 and they should not be getting up at five AM. 396 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:28.559 I know you're making a face, Gary, Maybe this is 397 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:29.880 another example of what it should be a. 398 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:33.039 Culturally imposed thing. I mean, when the sun goes down, yep, 399 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:33.720 slow down. 400 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.079 I think where all the parents would agree with doctor 401 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.799