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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get the six am hours started, shall we?

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning? It is a Wednesday edition of Kentucky and

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<v Speaker 1>This Morning News here on news Radio eight forty Whas

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Coffee. That's me and you can take us with

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<v Speaker 1>you wherever you go. Listen live on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>Also listen live at whas dot com. So there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of celebration going on yesterday, not only in

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<v Speaker 1>Barchtown when it comes to those that were just happy

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<v Speaker 1>to see the Christal Rogers family get justice, which they've

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<v Speaker 1>been wanting for the last ten years. And obviously as

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<v Speaker 1>far as finding out specifically what actually happened to her,

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<v Speaker 1>will they get those answers? Ever, that remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine an appeal could be could be in

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<v Speaker 1>play here for Brooks Howck, but only time will tell.

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<v Speaker 1>But certainly a big day as far as just seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the jury decide to bring in a verdict of guilty

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<v Speaker 1>for both Brooks Howck and Joseph Lawson and life sentences

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<v Speaker 1>the recommendation when it comes to Brooks how Can. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not surprised, however, it was hard for me to not

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<v Speaker 1>make it and I never wanted it to sound as

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<v Speaker 1>if I was of the belief that these two weren't guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there in the courtroom. I wasn't on the jury,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Maybe I'll never know what my

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<v Speaker 1>decision would have been had I been there. I likely

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<v Speaker 1>believe that it would have been me, agreeing with those

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<v Speaker 1>that were on the jury that decided to convict these

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<v Speaker 1>two of this crime. But there are countless cases, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure where if you compare the actual evidence that was there,

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<v Speaker 1>it was hard for a jury to convict. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I went and looking at it last night and I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up spending way too much time doing it. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you go look at similar and there's ways you

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<v Speaker 1>can do it again, AI is a powerful tool. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at previous trials where the evidence going

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<v Speaker 1>against the person that's on trial is very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>what was at play here, I mean, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a success rate as far as the prosecution in those

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<v Speaker 1>previous trials, but there are many whether it was just

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<v Speaker 1>not only do you have some that were found not guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>some you couldn't even get the charges to stick. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I don't say that in defense of them. It

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<v Speaker 1>just there was more worry than I think I realized

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<v Speaker 1>from the just the public that these two may get

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<v Speaker 1>away with it, and it's nice to know that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get away with it. And there's others

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<v Speaker 1>that were involved that will probably be worried moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>if their days coming. As far as an indictment, because

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the trial it was made pretty clear that both

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Hawk, the brother of Brooks Howk, and his mother Rosemary,

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<v Speaker 1>their mother, Rosemary, I should say, they're listed as unindicted

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<v Speaker 1>co conspirators. So I could tell just by the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>from and again not just people in that community, but

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<v Speaker 1>just people who followed this for a while. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what seemingly everybody wanted, because despite not being

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<v Speaker 1>in the courtroom during this trial and being on the jury,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm one of many that assumed these two

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<v Speaker 1>were were guilty and needed to be needed to be

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<v Speaker 1>held accountable. But when you look at the actual evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that that was circumstantial, but still it's just impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>think of, you know, if I'm in the shoes of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody on this Jerry, and I'm hearing the defense, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me to even take them serious. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as just some of the some of the explanations as

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<v Speaker 1>to as to why you know the cell phone records right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutors made it clear that the self the calls and

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<v Speaker 1>tower pings showed that how was at his farm, not

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<v Speaker 1>on business as he claimed during the evening of her disappearance.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just claiming that. I don't know the specifics,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the defense was, well, you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Wi Fi paying and not a cell tower paying. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, you got to be consistent if you're gonna lie,

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<v Speaker 1>and clearly his his lies didn't didn't hold up because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he said some things as far as just

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<v Speaker 1>what took place the day of the disappearance the day after,

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<v Speaker 1>and that ended up just not being true. And again

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't prove anything, but it certainly makes you look very,

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<v Speaker 1>very suspicious. And then there was a lot of testimony

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the trial as far as just what people heard

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<v Speaker 1>being discussed among rather it be the Lossons or the

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<v Speaker 1>Hawk family, but not as much. Maybe I'm wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember there being a whole lot of testimony

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<v Speaker 1>that included things overheard by the Hawk brothers. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the mother and of course the Lawsons who ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being conspirators in this whole thing, and certainly they're going

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<v Speaker 1>down with Halck as well. So again a pretty quick decision. Nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>no murder, weapon, no DNA, but the jury after nine

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<v Speaker 1>days and then just four hours of deliberation, they found

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<v Speaker 1>as you heard in our recent newscast from John Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>this is and over. I guess there's no way to

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<v Speaker 1>know as far as what's coming next, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>with this conviction they probably feel pretty good about moving

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<v Speaker 1>forward or at least heading in the right direction to

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<v Speaker 1>bring charges to others. All right, we've got an update

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<v Speaker 1>of traffic and whether coming your way. Bobby Ellis, we'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>us what's the latest on traffic. And I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just popped off the screen here in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>but WKY looked as if they had a live look

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<v Speaker 1>at some real traffic. So Bobby Ellis will give us

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<v Speaker 1>the latest on that. We'll take a look at Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Melosovitch as forecast from WKY, and didn't take long for

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump to question why people seem to be worried

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<v Speaker 1>about this Epstein fella. So we'll get to that and

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<v Speaker 1>more right here on Kentucky and This Morning News News

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<v Speaker 1>Radio eight forty whas So, yesterday, President Trump defended the

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<v Speaker 1>recent decision by the DOJ to just say, well, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to see here, it's over. No more documents would be released,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Epstein investigation, we're washing our hands of it.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, he wasn't asked the question. It was Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General Pam Bondi that was asked, but Trump interjected and

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<v Speaker 1>the question was asked yesterday, and I just send your

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<v Speaker 1>are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been

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<v Speaker 1>talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas, we

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<v Speaker 1>have this, we have all of the things, and are

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<v Speaker 1>people still talking about this guy? That's great? That is unbelievable. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not totally shocked to see that he

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<v Speaker 1>have played out the way that it did. Right, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be real, and I think this is way more complex

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<v Speaker 1>and messy than anybody realizes as far as just what

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<v Speaker 1>the outcome would be if, in fact, they just released

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<v Speaker 1>documents that we don't even really know if they exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Which that's a whole other layer to this is who

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<v Speaker 1>would keep a ledger, Like, what kind of I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>pardon my French, what kind of dumb ass would would

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<v Speaker 1>document I mean, are people as much as you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's delusion to assume that there's nothing to see here

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<v Speaker 1>and this, you know, two people that were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're supposed to just believe that that they

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<v Speaker 1>traffic no one and there weren't victims because apparently there

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<v Speaker 1>was nobody that was involved in it on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of you know, taking advantage of these victims.

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<v Speaker 1>And again that's just it's insulting our intelligence to have

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<v Speaker 1>anybody believe that. It's also, though, I think, an insult

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<v Speaker 1>to intelligence to think that somebody involved in this would

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<v Speaker 1>literally just have a little notebook where where they're taking

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<v Speaker 1>notes and recording all this awful stuff that clearly they

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<v Speaker 1>used all their power, influence and influence to try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep a big secret. So what I have found to

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<v Speaker 1>be really fascinating, and probably more so than anything just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's very very rare for this to happen, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are united Americans seem to be on the same

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<v Speaker 1>page with this as far as regardless of your political affiliation,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't believe that this was handled the right way

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<v Speaker 1>and that we deserve to know more about what went on, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't care if you're a Republican Democrat whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It does seem as if there's a lot of noise

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<v Speaker 1>coming from all directions, all sides, both sides of the aisle,

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<v Speaker 1>and everywhere else. As far as just saying, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>like you think we're stupid here, So just because you

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<v Speaker 1>are somebody that was on that you had, there's document

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<v Speaker 1>did Look, we don't even need these lists that may

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<v Speaker 1>not exist or anything like that, or any files that

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<v Speaker 1>may not exist, because clearly there are people that were

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<v Speaker 1>tied to Jeffrey Epstein and some I think you might

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<v Speaker 1>believe would be involved in the awful things that Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in over the years. But then there's others

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<v Speaker 1>that you might believe it. But like, it may not

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<v Speaker 1>be fair to just put that out there. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think the decision to just turn over, like if in

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<v Speaker 1>fact there are things that exist, meaning a list and

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<v Speaker 1>just other file files, turning that over that could lead

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<v Speaker 1>to I mean, it could ruin lives of people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't deserve that, and that's something that you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>do without thinking of potential consequence. But again, that's my

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<v Speaker 1>big takeaway, is that we're so divided in really every

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of life, seemingly this day and age. But everyone

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<v Speaker 1>seems to say, and I'm sure others are more consumed

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<v Speaker 1>by it than most, but move on. Nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an insult to our intelligence, even if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have much, it's an insult to what little we may have.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, let's get an update on the trappig and

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<v Speaker 1>weather out there in Kentucky in and also we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>another update on sports with Scott Fitzgerald right here on

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<v Speaker 1>news radio eight forty WHS. Thank you very much, John Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Kentucky in its morning news here at six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six Nick Coffee. That's me John, all on alongside.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are getting your day started, and you are,

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<v Speaker 1>let me make sure I get this correct because we've

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<v Speaker 1>got some big time traffic that is out there this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It started about an hour ago as an accident on

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<v Speaker 1>the Waterson eastbound just past Breckenridge Lane blocked the three

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<v Speaker 1>It looks as if it's a parking lot there, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how much progress has been made, but

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<v Speaker 1>looks as if those lanes are still are still blocked.

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<v Speaker 1>So in fact, is this the same area? This says

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<v Speaker 1>this was a crash on I sixty four eastbound the

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<v Speaker 1>ramp to Hurstbourne Parkway, which is blocking all lanes. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are, if you're on sixty four eastbound, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a sixty four east Waterson eastbound that area, be

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<v Speaker 1>prepared because it looks like there's some real delays going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So not sure what you can do about it if

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<v Speaker 1>extra time, but just be advised. Alright again, it is

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty seven here Kentucky in this morning news news

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<v Speaker 1>only one who has signed up for a trial of

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<v Speaker 1>it won't cost me anything. I've done that many times

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<v Speaker 1>and been wrong, meaning I procrastinate, forget about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I end up paying for something that I really don't need.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is clearly a thing because one there's companies

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<v Speaker 1>know how successful they are as far as gaining customers,

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel your subscriptions to things that you don't need.

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<v Speaker 1>So yesterday and Appeals Court blocked the FTC's click to

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<v Speaker 1>blocked because apparently the eighth the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals,

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<v Speaker 1>they ruled that the FTC skipped a requirement, skipped a

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what plays out. But again, i'm if you

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<v Speaker 1>not making it very difficult to unsubscribe, good for you

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not trying to take advantage of people. Now again,

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<v Speaker 1>But John Alden, I can see you being somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>you know every monthly payment you make for any subscription

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<v Speaker 1>with Scott Fitzgerald. So the WNBA has been a more

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<v Speaker 1>of years, and that is because of Caitlin Clark. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I pick up a level of delusion

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, the WNBA, in the WNBA Players Association,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, had a counterproposal to what the the WNBA

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<v Speaker 1>And another player said it's a polar opposite of what

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<v Speaker 1>want more than what you're getting, that's normal. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who wouldn't want more benefits, more of a

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<v Speaker 1>But the notion that they're being taken advantage of and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the WNBA, I mean, the demands here are bold,

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of years, because I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how anybody could look you in the eye and

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that the reason that the league has seen

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<v Speaker 1>growth as far as viewership and even popularity is because

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<v Speaker 1>of one player. That's nobody's fault. That's just the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Anybody claiming that it's not that is a

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<v Speaker 1>delusional human being. And again, the WNBA players voting her

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<v Speaker 1>the ninth best guard in the league. I mean if that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's lappable. So when you have really one

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<v Speaker 1>single phenomenon being so solely instrumental in the viewership and

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<v Speaker 1>financial growth of the league, if you're the WNBA, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you can't. I mean you can't go in and

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<v Speaker 1>act as if this is sustainable because it'd be one

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<v Speaker 1>thing if you had a bunch of different Caitlin Clark's

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix, but she moves the needle like nobody

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<v Speaker 1>I have ever seen in any specific sport. So, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's one thing to want more again, but the

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<v Speaker 1>push they want as far as you know, revenue sharing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's laughable. I mean in the NBA, the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>players get basically fifty percent of the revenue, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not I mean the WNBA. I mean, yeah, the wa

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<v Speaker 1>is estimated nine point three player revenue share. It just

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<v Speaker 1>reflects the reality that it's a league that has been

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<v Speaker 1>propped up for decades by the NBA subsidizing it and

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<v Speaker 1>other external investments. And I just this notion that there's

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<v Speaker 1>and the players are you are being left out and

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<v Speaker 1>not getting a fair share. Like that's not Planet Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not reality. And the only hope that the league,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, ever, is really profitable, unfortunately is And this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't about supporting or not supporting women's basketball. These are

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