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Speaker 1: You am now listening to soft core History. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Softcore History. I am your host for

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the week, Rob Fox, joined us always by Dan Regester

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and our one of our favorite, maybe our favorite recurring guests.

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Speaker 1: Hard to say.

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Speaker 2: It's between Jack Mandeville and two Latinos. Uh, Scott Lopez

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is here today.

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Speaker 3: Why do you guys have multiple Latinos?

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Speaker 2: Well, one is a Latina, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. Diversify, you know, multiply divide.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Texas, you know, man, it's ever You're here.

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Speaker 1: Fuck you, We're everywhere. You're here, You're here. Why every

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time we have a guest too, he just skips right

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over me talking, goes right to the guest. They're are guests.

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I know they're special. Yeah. Okay, So to get my intro,

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what's up Dan? What you feeling today? Nah? I'm good, bro,

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well said, Scott's here in a tactical wizard hat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I gotta mix it up. My normal

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outfit is in my buddy's truck. So next time I'm on,

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hopefully I see him again. Also, my salsa is in

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his truck. It's probably bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I spent forty dollars on salsa.

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Speaker 2: It's fucked If it's in his truck.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping he put it back in his fridge because

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he told me he did. It's been cooked cactus salsa,

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pickle salsa, and then tropical Hawaiian salsa.

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Speaker 2: I don't like any of those. It's all sound bad.

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And I'm a salsa boy.

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Speaker 3: You're in it's white people's salsa. Tropical salsa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck got I want heat. I want a burn

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their heat mouth through fucking butthole.

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Speaker 1: There is hot indies. Yeah. Now do you think Merlin

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had tactical cana?

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Speaker 3: Merlin definitely did because he survived a long time. And

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you don't do that wearing flashy colors.

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Speaker 2: I think, no, you don't want to glitter in the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a couple of times, Hey, you're fighting

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a dragon, glitter up. That dragon will see no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think Harry Potter's invisible cloak was actually

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just camo?

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Speaker 3: It sounds like it would be camo.

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Speaker 1: It's camouflage, a camouflage. It's not invisible. What No, it's

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just camo pattern?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it just blends the holy shit, wol

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Harry go.

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Speaker 2: It's not Yeah, well there was no actual invisibility to

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it at all. It was just jungle pattern.

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Speaker 1: He got it from a bass Pro shop.

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Speaker 2: It's a poncho.

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Speaker 1: Actually, they have the best realize this.

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Speaker 3: They have their own camo patterns at bass Pro.

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Speaker 1: I believe it. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, why would you take someone else's It's a

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fun place. Yeah, I love bass Pro shops, wonderful. We

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want to take the kids there so they can look

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at fish yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, items, and yeah, get them a baby gun or

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a bone arrow, probably a.

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Speaker 2: Live at like a real bone arrow, you know what

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I mean. Yeah, live rounds type of situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they may children's want children's ones sharp?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good, that's what I want.

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Speaker 3: I had to use a children's bow once to defend

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my my friend's property when I was like ten from

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what uh well, it turned out to be nothing, but

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his front door was open and we were like, oh no,

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the door's open, and hanging just inside the front door

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was like a bow from essentially Walmart, like a ten

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pound draw and I just picked it up and with

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like real era Yeah, and I walked through his house

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his cuse, thinking someone was like in there in this miracles.

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Speaker 1: It was probably the Russians. It was a red dnson.

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Speaker 3: They just like there was no one there. It was

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a mirror open.

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Speaker 2: A parent didn't get an arrow to the stomach.

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Speaker 3: Ye, parents weren't there luckily as well, because they would

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have definitely at that time gotten an arrow somewhere.

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Speaker 1: It was on site.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if I saw a movement, I'm shooting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm letting as you should though, you know, yeah,

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you're just defending the homeland.

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Speaker 3: But that was that was really fun.

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Speaker 1: Not his homeland, America his homeland.

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Speaker 2: He was an expeditionary force into someone else's home.

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Speaker 3: No, it was my homeland because I've found out recently

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that I'm some sort of Native American.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're what are you Mexican? Yeah? Yeah, all of

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you are.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that until like three months ago.

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Speaker 1: It is a mixture. That is literally what a Mexican is.

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Now would I know that because you are one? I'm

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half that's enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't talk to the Mexicans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: We had a Latina co worker, actually Gabby's sister b

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one time like, yeah, I'm of Spanish descent, and I

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was like, you have so much Native American bloody, Like you're.

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Speaker 1: Mexican you have so like I don't think I do.

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Like I know you do.

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Speaker 2: I know, based on nothing but what you look like

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and where you say you're from. You have Native American bloody.

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Speaker 3: I mean, once I found out, I do take a

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liking to turquoise mm hmm and rocks in the wind.

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I think my ancestors are finally talking.

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Speaker 1: To the wind speak dude, do you have a gecko tattoo?

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Speaker 3: A gecko? No, I have an arrow, So that's native.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of like white girl in Austin. Yeah,

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you need to.

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Speaker 2: Get like Mexican native, like one of those stone like

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club swords that Aztecs had, you know what I mean,

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right down the fucking Do you have one on this forum?

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Speaker 3: Nothing over here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you need to That's what you need

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to get.

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Speaker 3: Just go full native.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or actually extend out the BUCkies tattoo to

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where the beaver is holding it.

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Speaker 3: I like that idea. Yeah, that's genius.

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Speaker 2: Because it's it combines both your Texan and Mexican heritage.

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Speaker 1: Mexicans. Yeah, boy, Rob, this interests really been so much anarchy.

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Speaker 2: It has and we're talking anarchy today because I feel

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like Scott is one of our most anarchical Is that

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a word?

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Speaker 1: Guests? You know what I mean? Just lives a free life. Yeah. Also,

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you're welcome for that. Alley up the topic before. I

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thank you for once you.

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Speaker 2: Didn't know the topic beforehand because I mentioned it, Scott asked,

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Usually I don't like to tell the people, but it

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was like five minutes before, so that's good enough. Today

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we are talking one of the most influential anarchists of

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the Gilded Age. Anarchism was essentially like socialism or communism

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before socialism and communism got hot, which means like the

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thing every insufferable leftist was into in the like eighteen

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sixties to nineteen tens.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was like text book annoying leftist antifa went

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to college and learned too much, but none of it

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is useful type of political belief.

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Speaker 1: What happened in like your day to day life. Because

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you're kind of on this anarchist kick, we did an

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episode on the Patreon pateon dot com saus software history.

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You're just really into it right now. You've read in

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a book. Was there a TV series? Certainly any inspirations

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having the kids less.

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Speaker 2: Likely than me reading a book right now, is me

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watching a TV show somehow because I just don't have

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time for any of it. No, I've always been fascinated

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by anarchists because they are like such a good modern

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comp or such a good historical comp to modern like

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one sect of a not modern like annoying political factions.

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And uh, it just really ties into our shows. Mancha

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of shit don't change because almost everything you'll hear from

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this episode after we get through Emma's childhood, which very

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much shit has changed there. But like once you get

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into like her political beliefs and like the things she

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says and the way she cops out, you'll be like, oh,

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this sounds like anyone. For example, h the other day

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the Democratic Socialists And by the way, this is not

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a right wing podcast, but I do like to dunk

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on leftists and crazy right.

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Speaker 1: Don't anyone assumes a right? No, I understand that.

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Speaker 2: I understand that. But the other day, the Democratic Socials

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of America were like, free the guy who killed those

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two Jewish people outside the embassy because he did nothing

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wrong because Israel is bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard. He was like, They're like, do you

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need a water? Ye a sandwich or something. Yeah, and

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he was like, who do you think did it?

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Speaker 2: And they're like, I don't know, and then he pulled

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out a Kifa and goes.

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Speaker 1: I did it.

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Speaker 2: Like literally, We're like, sweet dude, sweet Christopher Nolan, reveal

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you were the bad guy the whole time.

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Speaker 1: I think there was like a two man chant going

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see absolute scenes.

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Speaker 3: Who do you like more of the anarchists from the

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eighteen hundreds or like the antifa leftist now.

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Speaker 2: Well, the anarchists killed a lot more people, a lot

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more people. We did all episode on the Patreon. If

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you liked this episode, check out the Patreon, Patreon, dot

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the bodies they got.

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Speaker 1: Oh shit and bombs.

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Speaker 2: They killed a ton of people. There were two like

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Oklahoma City level not I mean, there were two major

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terrorist attacks that they did just in the United States

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that you've never heard of. The Wall Street bombing was huge,

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and they also killed like six or seven major major

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national leaders over like a twenty year period, including US

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President William McKinley.

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Speaker 3: All Right, I didn't know any of that.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge mea couple on your part. You forgot

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to mention one of the bombers super hot. What there's

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a hot anarchist.

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Speaker 2: If you're a hot guy from history. I just saw

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a random photo the other day, like a random guy,

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and I was like, there's that's a time traveler. There's

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no way anyone could have been that hot back. Yeah,

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that doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely hot.

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Speaker 1: But also the president just eat it up nowadays, like.

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Speaker 2: I think they eat ate it up then too, I

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mean too in your Sniper episode on Patreon, how they

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were just constantly like, all right, miss Russian, go, you've

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killed a lot of Nazis, But why he's so ugly?

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Speaker 3: Your face has a hole in it from shrapnel.

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Speaker 2: You're not an attractive woman. Put on some makeup doll.

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I'd want to be. I'd want to be shot too.

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Looking at you, I understand why those Gummans walked in

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front of your site. So I think it's always that

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might always be the case. Yeah, But anyway, let's talk

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about Emma Goldman, who I'll give you my hypothesis on

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her from the top, which is her life growing up

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was orderless and full of anarchy in a way that

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I think she just turned around and felt everyone should

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live as shitty of a life as I did. I

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feel like that was like the deep subconscious motivation.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that everyone's motivation nowadays too? What I'm miserable, you

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should be too. Yes, shit don't change, Shit don't change.

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Speaker 2: But I'm happy and you should be happy now. I

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wasn't happy when I got here, was very tired. But

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I'm like a beer and a half in now and

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I'm fucking Jimmy Cricket, So I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I feel great.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't take much to get out of the house

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have a beer.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy. I don't want to say I know what

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emancipation feels like, but.

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Speaker 1: I have an inkling anyway. Uh. I mean I could

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have just went with like last day of school, but

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you went emancipatient.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm just I'm giddy now. I'm feeling as

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good as I've felt all day. I've been hung over

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from a melowtonin and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just do you think some of those slaves, though that

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weren't grinders, were like, fuck, this is on me now right. Look,

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I'm a sharecropper now.

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Speaker 3: A lot of.

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Speaker 2: Human beings were enslaved, and it would not surprise me

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if some small section of them felt like, no, I

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had it pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying I gotta find my own. There's

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so fucking.

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Speaker 2: Many of them, like the it's such a large sample

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size that you're going to get all outcomes. That's all

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I'm saying. That's not doesn't mean they were right. I'm

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just saying you're gonna get all outcomes from like ten

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million people or whatever. It was, so Emma Gold just happy.

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Speaker 1: The pastiest guy here said that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wide, I've never even seen a field with

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my eyes.

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Speaker 1: Me and Lopeze look like we just got off the fucking.

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Speaker 2: You can tell who has who has high class blood

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running through their veins and who does I have Native blood?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I said it. I said that right.

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Speaker 3: You can't listen to the trees like I can't.

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Speaker 2: Trees don't say anything.

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Speaker 3: Now that attitude, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, that must be bad too. If you were

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like some conquisa do or was like here, like the

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trees are talking to you, and he's like, cut that, dumb, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: The trees have PTSD, bro, you know you a PTSD.

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You're murdering trees.

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Speaker 2: Every tree to a Native American is the giving tree.

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They're all like, hey, can I give you today?

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Speaker 1: Can't hear them?

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Speaker 2: Is like cut them down and you're just crying.

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Speaker 1: Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Samma Goldman was born into an Ortho Orthodox Jewish family

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in Lithuania, which was then in the Russian Empire.

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Speaker 1: Her mom Tobe tob I don't know well.

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Speaker 2: She actually got married at fifteen to a different man

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than her father, Emma's father. She had two daughters with

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that guy, but her first husband died of tuberculosis, and

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Taub was devastated.

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Speaker 1: So different every time, Tobe tob No. I think you

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should just go with a different pronunciation every time.

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Speaker 2: Taby Yeah, Toby was devastated. Goldman later wrote, and I

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feel bad during this episode almost because it's really scratching

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the surface. She wrote a two part autobiography. She wrote

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several other books about her life, like In Different Places.

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This is a full, like softcore history, scratch the surface episode.

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I mean, you can go deep into this woman's life.

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That's quite fascinating, even though I think she kind of sucks.

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Goldman wrote, whatever love, my mother had died with the

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young man to whom she had been married at the

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age of fifteen. Now, ell, yeah, remember I said that,

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Goldman was not the daughter of the first Man. So

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Goldman was born into a loveless family because her mom

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remarried to a guy she wasn't really that into her

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family set it up. His name was Abraham Goldman and

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he was not good at anything.

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Speaker 1: Dude, love was invented in the fifties by Hallmark to

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sell cards.

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Speaker 2: That's not true, and I will I will counter your

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argument with one of your own episodes. Do you remember

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that Roman emperor who had sex with babies? Yes, now

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this is going somewhere. Doesn't have anything to do with the

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babies really, except that he did Tiberius. Tiberius was driven

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insane by the fact that Augustus made him leave the

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woman he loved.

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Speaker 1: I think that might have been an excuse for having

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little fishes.

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Speaker 2: This emperor would have. He would go into nursing mom's

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huts or whatever and be like, give me your baby,

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and they'd be like why, I mean, take his wiener

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out and have.

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Speaker 1: Them nurse that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this episode is brought to you by he was

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sad and that's what made him happy. You're hungry for

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a little fish?

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Speaker 1: Uh, just perceive what the topic did. I'm cutting this

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all out.

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Speaker 2: No, no, Abraham. The main theme in his life is

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abject failure.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So again, I kind of get where Goldman hates society

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and uh doesn't really like anything because her home life

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sucks and her dad can't get a single business off

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the ground. And god, he tried. He took all of

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Toby's inheritance from her first marriage when her husband died,

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invested it in a business. That business immediately failed and

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all the money was lost. So Abraham, being you know,

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a failure in that and then multiple other businesses, is like, oh,

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oh my god, Okay, I'm going to get my wife pregnant,

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and I really hope I have a son, because if

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I have a daughter, it's more proof than I'm a failure.

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Oh fuck, So Emma was born, although he did eventually

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have three sons. His father, or her father, was you know,

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a kind of maybe a typical man of the time,

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who knows he used violence to punish his children when

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they disobeyed him, and Emma was the most rebellious and

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her mom at this point checked out on the world

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because the man she loved died of tuberculosis when she

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was seventeen or something.

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Speaker 3: Was like, hey, stop, I mean get a grip, you're seventeen,

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you'll be okay, God, living in the past.

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Speaker 2: Like that, gross, it's disgusting. But so the mom barely intervened.

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She just was I think she was pretty checked out

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on life at that point.

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Speaker 1: Based on what.

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Speaker 2: Emma said about her. Goldman also later speculated, I think

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in one of her biographies or something, that her father's

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furious temper was probably because he was sexually frustrated.

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Speaker 1: You don't say, he.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't getting one he needed from Toby, and yeah, took

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it out on.

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Speaker 1: The kids physically or also sexually. Just physically.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get into sex crimes later, great, but yes,

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just physically. When Emma was a young girl, the family

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moved to I don't know, somewhere else, but I think

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just somewhere else in the Russian Empire where her father

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ran in. Her sisters worked there, and that was when

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she first became sexually aroused. I guess by one of

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the servant boys that worked there. Nothing really comes to.

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Speaker 3: That was she aroused.

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Speaker 2: She was later while living there, she witnessed a peasant

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being whipped in the street with a knife.

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Speaker 1: That's a new one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know how that works, really that's.

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Speaker 3: A that's a slashing lashing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's getting hit with the like handle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called a knout. It's a Russian whip of course,

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the Russians vandas that consists of a rawhide thong or

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rope attached to a long wooden handle knife.

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Uh so, Yeah, cool whipped with that and this event

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traumatized her for the rest of her life. And that

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was when just seeing this, just seeing this made her

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hate authority.

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Speaker 3: Dude, she's just like her mom seventeen, husband dies. Now

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she's a child. She's a whipping.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's it's not a knife, it's as just

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a long wooden handle on the end. So essentially it's

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a long piece of like wood attached to a whip.

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That's just like essentially someone's getting more RPMs, more mph

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on the piece of wood.

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Speaker 1: That makes way more sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I said that.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, she saw this and was like, fuck the man,

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fuck this.

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Speaker 1: She saw a dirty hobo get beat.

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Speaker 2: Didn't even ask what the guy did it if it

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was like, no, he was molesting an entire school. She

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didn't ask she didn't ask. At the age of seven.

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Speaker 1: She painted her own narrative exactly are they stealing food

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for his family?

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Speaker 2: That is actually kind of a story of her life.

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She really likes to paint her own narrative onto things.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: At the age of seven, they moved to the German

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Empire in the Prussian city of Knesberg, and she was

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enrolled in school. One of the teachers punished disobedient students,

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including Goldman in particular because she was always disobedient, by

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beating their hands with a ruler typical.

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Speaker 1: Catholic school sh you know what, the big fucking due.

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We'll be honest.

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Speaker 2: Now this one, I could understand her hatred for another

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teacher was fired for trying to molest his female students,

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and he, I guess, was successful a lot until Goldman

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fought back and they found out and he was finally fired.

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Speaker 3: I mean, good for that school for firing someone for

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that whatever. It feels like that sounds like a normal

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thing and back then, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the risk you kind of run just being

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in that era, kind of.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm an f oh no, that's that is a

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funny thing about what people say today, it's like there's somebody,

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god dude, pedophiles, Like it's got to be the lowest

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per capita in the history of Earth, like by far.

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Speaker 1: And then you hear of all like the serial killers

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in like the eighteen early nineteen hundreds, and you hear

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about their childhoods and you're like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah,

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I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, she lived kind of a serial killer childhood herself,

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to be honest all she get.

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Speaker 3: A hit in the head at a young age too.

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Speaker 2: Almost certainly, Yeah, although it's not recorded in here. I mean,

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if her dad's beating her, you one would imagine hard. Yes,

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So she was a passionate student. You're blaming it on

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CTE Lopez as I should. Yeah, okay, all right, I

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mean everyone should. Yeah, she didn't go into concussion protocol.

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It does rearrange brain and bad ways as we As

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we've discussed.

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Speaker 1: Before, she had to take a couple of plays off.

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She didn't take any plays off.

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Speaker 2: She was grinder real jim rat, which is actually true

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because she passed an exam for an admission to a gymnasium.

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She was gonna get into a gymnasium.

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Speaker 1: Oh, gymnastics too. They have a lot of ct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they've flipping the air and bam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they don't the neck, No, nothing even hits them

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so much as they just scramble their brains in the air.

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Speaker 3: It's just gravity.

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Speaker 1: Oh and that. Yeah, well they hit the ground hard.

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They fell quite often, fall quite a bit as well.

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They're not just nailing perfect routine, but I.

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Speaker 2: Mean it does suck them up, even just doing the flip.

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Remember some own Biles had to tap out because she

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like had like vertigo. Basically she had a minty b Dude,

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that wasn't vertigo, No it was she said. Yet well

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she said she had the twisties.

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Speaker 1: I'll take her word for it. They call it the twisties.

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I used to hit mctwist all the time. That was

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my favorite flip. What is how does it? Was that entail?

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Just like a one eight flip?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's a ya backflip one eighty and then

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the twist is you in the air just looking backwards?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fucking sick. Bro. Did you throw up the

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jaw every time? Yeah? Bro, just I'll fucking nail one

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on you right now, do it.

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Speaker 2: I I did push ups on the show the other day.

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Speaker 1: Fucking do it what? I don't know if that made

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the episode. It was a read for the ad. That's right,

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it's fit bod. Yeah, but it wasn't on video, so

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there's no proof. There is no proof. God damn it.

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He didn't think I could do twenty push ups. I

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think you could. He impressed, appreciate it. Yeah, I might

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not be able to right now. Yeah, you bitch, you

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do twenty push My shoulders and just such dire straits.

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Speaker 2: Fuck that you're taking PDS.

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Speaker 1: I know I am injecting right to the shoulder. I

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actually feel great. So I had a chest today.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm wear this tank topped to show off

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my new physique.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm aroused. Say utah, body, I've lost a pound.

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Speaker 2: Someone's gonna see you three hundred years from now and

470
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,640
be like, whoa people were that hot in the past.

471
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 3: Yep, wizards could pull off that pod.

472
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,839
Speaker 2: God damn dude. So the family. Oh, so she got

473
00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:38,119
into the gymnasium, but because she was so unruly in school,

474
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,519
not just when teachers were trying to molest her that

475
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,880
her religion teacher was like, no, fuck you, I'm not

476
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,920
writing I'm not saying she didn't give the certificate of

477
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,880
good behavior she needed to get in, or the religion

478
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,720
teacher didn't, so she was unable to attend Gymnasium. The

479
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,480
family moved back to Russia to Saint Petersburg, where her

480
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,920
father opened one unsuccessful store after another.

481
00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: Damn, he's just going from like pyramid schradame, I fucking

482
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,359
go to door selling shoes.

483
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,079
Speaker 2: Like he just comes into the house one day and

484
00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:15,960
he's like, I tell you, buttons, buttons are the thing.

485
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:19,400
Everyone has button on colt. If I make button store,

486
00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:20,839
who will not buy buttons?

487
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: You know?

488
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: And then just like he can't run a business, and

489
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,880
everyone's like, what the fuck is this button shop?

490
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: He tried to invent the zipper.

491
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes off button horrible.

492
00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:32,279
Speaker 1: I realized at the button store, I make thing. I

493
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,720
wasn't wrong. I was just early, yeah exactly.

494
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: And then the wife's like just checked out on Laudenham.

495
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: She's like, no, you were wrong.

496
00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:46,759
Speaker 2: And then he's like God just hits the kids. And

497
00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:49,759
then Emma's like, I like anarchy. I don't know, I

498
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:51,440
don't know the name for it yet, but that's what

499
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:51,880
I want.

500
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,319
Speaker 1: And this is how fucking Vladimir Lenin comes to power.

501
00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:57,319
Speaker 2: Kind of, it's just that whole country.

502
00:24:57,319 --> 00:25:02,039
Speaker 1: She actually she isn't a special case spoiler alert.

503
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: Later in the episode, has a meeting with Lennon, has

504
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:06,319
a face to.

505
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: Face I'm not bragging about that.

506
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: She wouldn't either, and we'll get to it. So as

507
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,039
a teenager in Russia, Goldman was like, Dad, please let

508
00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:19,200
me go back to school, Papa please, And she was just.

509
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,079
Speaker 1: Bagging him, bagging him.

510
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: And eventually he with his button store and you know,

511
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:26,480
underwater and everything. He was just like, fuck this, and

512
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:29,160
he took her French book, threw it in the fire

513
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:32,359
and shouted. Girls do not have to learn much. All

514
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,640
a Jewish daughter needs to know is how to prepare

515
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:38,440
geffelta fish, cut noodles fine, and give the man plenty

516
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:44,279
of children. All right, Yeah, so school was a no.

517
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,559
Speaker 1: They've come a long way. They have women in the

518
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,319
army now.

519
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,079
Speaker 2: Israel idea fatties in the army room.

520
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, gal Gado's.

521
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you want want to look at

522
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,200
good propaganda, dive into idf TikTok.

523
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 3: I love watching there, Like there's like pictures or videos

524
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,599
of their reservists that are shopping out of Macy's with

525
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,839
like a rifle on their back. Yeah, it's the hottest

526
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:12,079
chick you've ever seen. Jews has a rifle loaded, ready

527
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,960
to go somewhere.

528
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: What does that do to you?

529
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:17,599
Speaker 2: As a man who works in a gun and gun manufacturing.

530
00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:21,839
Speaker 3: Everything does everything for me. That's all I want is

531
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,519
a woman who either like wants to learn how to

532
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,359
shoot or can shoot.

533
00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: You need to get yourself in ISRAELI Yeah, I.

534
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,039
Speaker 3: Mean, are they coming yet? Are they here? There's just

535
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,079
raley girls here, like they should flee more.

536
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of the problem with the you know,

537
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,279
Palestinians in Gaza covered in blood and dirt and stuff.

538
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:45,079
It's like clean up. Yeah, but think we need better propaganda.

539
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the problem is that they don't. Because Israel

540
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,119
is a Western country, they can show all the goodies.

541
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta show more than ankle.

542
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and that would turn the tide of

543
00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:56,480
the war, I think.

544
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: I think. So you're really turning people off with all

545
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,960
the dead babies.

546
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't parade those out. Israel's got dead babies too,

547
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,599
But they're showing.

548
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: Batties, show more ass.

549
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:13,519
Speaker 2: It's ass wins wars is what Napoleon said.

550
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:15,519
Speaker 3: They would sell war bonds left and right.

551
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that is kind of how they

552
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,200
sold war bonds in World War Two. Every show had

553
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,079
like a good example of that is in the First

554
00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:25,960
Captain of America movie, right, he gets introduced out with

555
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:27,720
a bunch of hot chicks. That was like every war

556
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:28,720
bond fucking thing ever.

557
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: That was John Basilone. Yeah, he was just like some

558
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:34,519
actress or something. I don't know who the fuck she was,

559
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,160
some famous chick. They would just walk around together.

560
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

561
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,759
Speaker 3: They got dudes with a babe. Yeah yeah, all boys

562
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:44,359
fuck yeah, Japanese don't fuck yeah.

563
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,279
Speaker 1: By Wall bonds wasn't good enough for John though. John

564
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:47,920
had to go back.

565
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,039
Speaker 3: No, yeah, John need to get some John met that

566
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,359
wife and got married immediately, then got blown up.

567
00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: He didn't go back till after he got married. So

568
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,880
he got married and then he was like like, oh boy.

569
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: I'd rather charging machine gunnessing this ship and got his

570
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,920
wish yep. Uh.

571
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,319
Speaker 2: Anyway, so Goldman just kind of educated herself after that.

572
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

573
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: She studied the political turmoil around her because the a

574
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:19,920
lot of Russian ship was going on at the time,

575
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,359
including this was what first awakened her, although she didn't

576
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,599
quite understand.

577
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: It sexually, spiritually, all probably all the above.

578
00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: Uh the assassination of our boy, Alexander the second of Russia.

579
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,880
That she was like, oh, that's interesting, that's fun.

580
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: Alex two or Alex three? Do sure?

581
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: Alex three was the uh his son who was the hass.

582
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: Well they both got assassinated.

583
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: No, no, Alex three did not getssassinate. Alex two got assassinated.

584
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,440
That'd be a fun lineage.

585
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well Alex two and his grandson both got assassinated.

586
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:58,519
Speaker 1: There you go, Nicholas, that's fun.

587
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: So she read the novel What is to Be Done,

588
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,519
the Russian novel, and she found a role model and

589
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,799
the protagonist, Vera, who adopted a nihilist philosophy, which is

590
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:11,039
sort of like pre I mean, you know what nihilism is,

591
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:12,920
but in that time period, it was sort of like

592
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,960
the gateway to anarchy. Anarchism, and this character, you know,

593
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:20,319
escaped her repressive family and went to live in a

594
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:26,039
sewing co op. So she was like, that sounds sweet.

595
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,240
I want to do that. Her dad, meanwhile, consistent, consistently,

596
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:33,119
was like, you're gonna get married and have babies.

597
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: You're sixteen, come on, let's go.

598
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: They fought about the issue constantly. He complained that she

599
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:42,640
was becoming a loose woman. She insisted she would only.

600
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:45,319
Speaker 1: Marry four money love.

601
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,039
Speaker 2: He was the money one. She was like love or nothing.

602
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they love money. Women love money, bitches be

603
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,400
so it is love. Yeah, I guess that's true. What

604
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,559
kind of love is? It doesn't matter?

605
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:08,119
Speaker 3: And they love of time with their partner and time

606
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,960
is money again money?

607
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:13,079
Speaker 1: Oh, grind culture, yep, grind culture. Is it all goes

608
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:17,359
back to them dollars. So she was working at a corset.

609
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:20,799
Speaker 2: Shop at the time, and she really further became just

610
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,599
turned off to her current life when Russian military officers

611
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,960
and other men were constantly aggressively and I mean aggressively,

612
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:33,039
not like come on, buy drink, buy a drink, I

613
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:37,359
mean like bad Russian aggressive hitting on her. One man

614
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,160
took her into a hotel room and sexually assaulted her.

615
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:47,799
She felt that encounter forever soured her interactions with men.

616
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:52,000
Not wrongly so, I would imagine, although she did go

617
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:55,839
on to get married a couple times and have people

618
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720
she fell in love with. In eighteen eighty five, her

619
00:30:58,759 --> 00:30:59,400
sister Helena.

620
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: These are fun toxic relationships, though she's like breaking bottles

621
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,799
over their head.

622
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,119
Speaker 2: The relations none of the relationships are great, but she

623
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:08,359
does fall in love.

624
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: Dude, A Russian toxic relationship sounds terrifying. Yeah, that sounds

625
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,720
like the worst toxic relationship.

626
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: Something any Western man is built for us. Every day

627
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,880
could be your last. Yeah, because they could take you

628
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,559
out easily.

629
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: If the tiniest Russian man yelled at me right now,

630
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,839
I'd be scared.

631
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,599
Speaker 2: Or like, I would just not put it past any

632
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Russian woman to like, even if you could take her,

633
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:31,400
she'd poison your ass.

634
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,519
Speaker 1: She wants to see it slowly happen. Yeah, stands over

635
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:36,839
you smoking a cigarette.

636
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,039
Speaker 4: You are never really man. You think you're so tough,

637
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:44,599
I mean, you're so clever, but here you are on

638
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,200
the floor dying like an asshole, you pussy.

639
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: Isn't that how we all want to die?

640
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: Though?

641
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,799
Speaker 1: Honestly, with a Russian woman smoking over our.

642
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,799
Speaker 3: Any babe poisoning us kind of sick.

643
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've always kind of seen myself, especially at my

644
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:06,079
new apartment, kind of bleeding out in the pool. Yeah,

645
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:09,279
after I got shot by a femme fatale. Sunset boulevard style.

646
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:10,559
It's a good pool.

647
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: That's the dream, just one more like you're just you

648
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,119
know it's over, and you're just it hurts like hell,

649
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,160
but you're like you got you got it right in

650
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:18,519
the lung.

651
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:19,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't care.

652
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: You can't make a noise if you die, and you're like,

653
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,240
oh fuck, if you're making noises while you die, you're

654
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:29,240
a bitch. Also, you have to just take it. Remember

655
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:29,640
when you're a.

656
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,799
Speaker 1: Kid and you're just kind of like holding your breath

657
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,319
underwater in the pool like that.

658
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: I still do.

659
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: I would, I would kind of enjoy it as I die.

660
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:38,279
I think a little pardon me.

661
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then your blood looks really cool in the water,

662
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:44,440
like just spreads way quicker.

663
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: That's awesome. It's pretty sweet. You guys want me to

664
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:49,920
kill you that way. There's worse ways to go. I

665
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,200
don't want you to kill me. Oh you want a lady, Yeah,

666
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:54,319
ladies got to do it. The gun.

667
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: I'll find this is Israeli chick, and she'll do it.

668
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,759
Speaker 2: I mean, court, you'll probably do it, I said, feen fatale, Okay,

669
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:02,440
not mom of three.

670
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:06,559
Speaker 3: No, I'll teach her how to shoot and then she'll

671
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:08,640
be cool. Yeah, then it'll work out.

672
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:16,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got no edge. It's not bad enough. I'm

673
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:20,880
gonna text you that right out. Dan said, you don't

674
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,640
have enough edge to kill him.

675
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:25,359
Speaker 2: I said, Dan says, you have no edge live on

676
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,559
the show. So we'll see what she says back.

677
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:31,359
Speaker 1: So she's like a wheel of cheese.

678
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,359
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm not sending her that, uh not like physically, well,

679
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:38,240
I want to actually send her that out. Dan says,

680
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,359
you're like a wheel of cheese dot dot dot physically.

681
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right.

682
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:48,759
Speaker 2: So her sister's gonna move to New York and she

683
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:51,039
wants to go with her sister, and her dad's like,

684
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,480
fuck that, you're getting married, you're staying here. So Goldman

685
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:54,799
is like, if you don't let me go, I'm gonna

686
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:58,720
throw myself in a fucking river that right by our house.

687
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,960
Finally the fought that agrees, and in eighteen ninety five

688
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,759
they go to New York.

689
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: Yes.

690
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: I didn't think this was going to go to America.

691
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's in America. In America.

692
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,559
Speaker 3: Fuck yes, dude.

693
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,679
Speaker 2: So she gets there and, by the way, her parents

694
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,679
leave like a few years later, because believe it or not,

695
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,360
there's rising anti Semitism in Russia.

696
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: It happens every decade or so.

697
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: It's like the Olympics. Honestly, summer and winter.

698
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: It's every two years somewhere in the world they're going

699
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,599
to be hosting some anti.

700
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,639
Speaker 2: Juice at her She got a new job and Goldman

701
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,920
met a fellow worker named Jacob Kirshner. They liked books

702
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,800
and traveling and blah blah blah. After four months of

703
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,840
knowing each other, they married in eighteen eighty seven. On

704
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:48,960
their wedding night, Miss Lucky everything coming up Goldman so

705
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:51,960
far in life. On their wedding night, she finds out

706
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,960
that the love of her life, his dick don't work.

707
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,519
Oh and not just for the night, whiskey dick Like

708
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,719
he's just impotent.

709
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: There's actually nothing down there, a smooth board. Fuck he can't.

710
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: So he's like so like they get married and they

711
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,000
get into the hotel room, and he's like, Okay, now

712
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:15,800
is probably the.

713
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,559
Speaker 1: Time to tell you. He could still be in your corner.

714
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:23,159
But now you get to be freaky. Now you have

715
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:23,960
your pick a litter.

716
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: It's nothing a splint and some foreplay won't fix.

717
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,679
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned. He's still got a tongue, right, Yeah,

718
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:30,840
you could do stuff.

719
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:38,079
Speaker 2: So before long the relationship became emotionally and of course

720
00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:43,039
physically distant, and he started getting jealous and suspicious that

721
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:47,480
she was running around with guys who had operational dicks,

722
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,119
and he was like, if you leave me, I'll kill myself.

723
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,079
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, the fact that he hasn't with a non

724
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:01,079
working dick's kind of credit to him, right, Like, I'm

725
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,159
if my dick doesn't work, I'm just I'm out of

726
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:04,599
this world. You're done? What's the point?

727
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: We all know someone to who, like whether it's a

728
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,360
guy friend or a girlfriend, who has had that relationship

729
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,440
of like they want to break up with someone and

730
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,800
they go, if you break up with me, I'm gonna

731
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,800
kill myself, And they never fucking do. But you know

732
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,000
they always believe, like, oh, I can't leave her because

733
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:22,960
she'll kill herself.

734
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: Brother, she did, But what about the one time where

735
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,719
they do. Then you get the blood on your hands,

736
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,760
you get a little bit that fucking reality.

737
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:31,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's wrong with that, dude?

738
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:32,679
Speaker 1: That's in the back of your head.

739
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 3: That's the state side in my eyes, Dude.

740
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: He's supposed to do just sit around forever. Yeah, Yeah,

741
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:41,880
you can't give a man emotional CPR for the rest

742
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,320
of his life.

743
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,639
Speaker 1: Like a good Irish Catholic, you sit in that misery. Yeah,

744
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,639
like an Irish Catholic.

745
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,639
Speaker 2: Sex you don't eat sex anyway after you have your kids.

746
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,840
But you didn't have any kids, so that's the problem.

747
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,119
This whole time, Goldman was still, since the assassination of

748
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:05,559
Alexander the Second, very much into the politics around her

749
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:09,760
and stuff like that. And if the assassination of Alexander

750
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:16,599
the Second awakened her, this event engaged her. This is

751
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:22,760
the event that brought her into not just politics but anarchism.

752
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: The Paralympics.

753
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: She got really into the Haymarket affair, the bombing in

754
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,199
the Chicago Haymarket in which I think like workers and

755
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,239
anarchists were clashing with police over maybe like strikes or

756
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,760
something like that. One of the anarchists threw a bomb,

757
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:50,360
killed seven cops. Whoa, And Emma Goldman was like, that's

758
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,079
pretty sweet.

759
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,519
Speaker 1: That's an impressive bomb.

760
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, like most bombs these days throwing at someone doesn't

761
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,480
kill seven.

762
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: Yep. It was the Haymarket affair. Hot dude. This is

763
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,519
what got her into it was lewis Ling. Look up

764
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:09,960
lewis Ling. I'll put a photo of him in the

765
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,519
WHOA video right now, look at this man. WHOA. The

766
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:17,599
Haymarket affair was done by a fucking stud. So he

767
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,079
totally convinced this woman to get insane and probably a

768
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,679
lot of other women. How does how's the guy look

769
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,760
that good? This is insane? Well, yeah, it's a handsome felt.

770
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: Hell no, that's not handsome. That's starting shortstop.

771
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: For the New York Yankees. Handsome.

772
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,679
Speaker 3: That's a piece, right, there's.

773
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,519
Speaker 1: Fucking incredible, THEO James type.

774
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: So this is probably why she got super into the

775
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,159
Haymarket affair. If I had to guess she was, I

776
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:49,119
will say I she she was into the bombing full stop.

777
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: She thought the bombing was sweet.

778
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: However, in her defense, I will say she was also

779
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:02,639
outraged by the trials and executions afterwards, which were questionable.

780
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,280
They kind of just they might have got someone who

781
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,840
was responsible. But there was also a lot of patsies

782
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,199
and and people just on the fringes who had nothing

783
00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:12,679
to do with the bombing, who were also tried and

784
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,519
imprisoned and in some cases executed. I believe a couple

785
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:17,440
of them were pardoned later. The ones who were just

786
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,239
given prison sentences because eventually they appealed and they were

787
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:21,599
like you.

788
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: Have you know, they were just on the ride. Yeah,

789
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,800
what did this broad look like? Ama?

790
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,199
Speaker 2: Uh not bann in her youth? You know, could she

791
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:37,519
catch it in the eighteen eighties? Certainly tall glass water

792
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:39,519
with what kind of feature? This is like young Emma

793
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:44,840
Goldman all right, cutie, Yeah, she ages like a Russian

794
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,400
woman though really short, really and also just like a

795
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,239
woman of that era, like this is what she looked

796
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,199
like most of her life.

797
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,119
Speaker 1: That's not what she looked like sixty year old life.

798
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: That's a brute.

799
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: No, she's actually thirty two in that picure.

800
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:04,039
Speaker 3: You're probably she can, dude, she's cutting the firewood.

801
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: Your only skincare routine in the eighteen eighties in any

802
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,599
city is cold smoke.

803
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: Which, again, like I'm not saying this in like a

804
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,440
gay way. The fact that lewis Ling looks like this

805
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,400
first off in eighteen eighty seven, I.

806
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: Will say it in a gay way, like that's so

807
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:20,159
good looking for that time.

808
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,519
Speaker 1: Period, it makes no sense.

809
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,159
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

810
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: He's got like the perfect goatee manicure.

811
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:30,079
Speaker 2: I mean, just the facial structure, and who does that

812
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:30,440
back then?

813
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: Who takes time to work on their facial?

814
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,679
Speaker 1: Good old barber, you got nothing but time? Really true?

815
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,079
Speaker 3: Fuck?

816
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,679
Speaker 1: I guess.

817
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: I mean I go with like, what what I would do?

818
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,400
I would just be a filthy hobo, you know, I

819
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,000
would look just like a drifter. I'd be the guy

820
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,280
that gets killed somewhere from someone lives on the street.

821
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 2: You're like John Rainbow walking through that town, except it

822
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,400
ends at.

823
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: The first act.

824
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:56,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you.

825
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: Just get beaten to death by the sheriffs.

826
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,119
Speaker 3: And figuring do something cool like, oh, I'm not built

827
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:01,280
for this.

828
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. This dude honestly looks like my best friend from

829
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:08,159
back home, Matt. It's just an eighteen hundred version of him.

830
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:08,599
Love that.

831
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:10,079
Speaker 3: When's the last time we talked to Matt?

832
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:13,159
Speaker 1: I talked to him like every day? Oh listens to

833
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,760
the show? So what'st You're hot?

834
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: You're eighteen eighties hot.

835
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,599
Speaker 2: So less than a year after the wedding, Kirshner and

836
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:24,960
Goldman divorced. He doesn't kill himself, believe it or not.

837
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:31,079
Speaker 3: Uh, like I said, yeah, they never do.

838
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

839
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: Her parents at this point kick her out. She moves

840
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,039
to New York City on her very first day in

841
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:38,679
New York City, she goes to a cafe full of anarchists.

842
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,639
Speaker 1: Basically, but I'm sorry, we can't skip over this dude.

843
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,280
He blasted the bomb in his mouth?

844
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: Did he the bomb that killed the cops?

845
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: Said suicide by blasting caps in mouth? Yeah, but I

846
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,039
don't think I think that was different.

847
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: Then there's no way he killed seven cops with the

848
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,679
bomb inside your head.

849
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not.

850
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,079
Speaker 3: That's why I mentioned like bombs these days is hard.

851
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: Okay, So it was like caps, Yeah, that would have

852
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,119
been sick if it was just a bomb that went

853
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:08,599
off in his.

854
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,679
Speaker 3: That that might injure a single person or like kill

855
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,119
someone an inch from your face.

856
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. I would be disgusted by that, Like,

857
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,800
what a waste of that face? Yeah. So the guy

858
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,119
just kind of crushed a bunch of pills in his

859
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:26,159
mouth and then foamed out.

860
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he detonated something. We've all seen drone footage

861
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,039
of Ukraine, Russia. Oh yeah, a single drone grenade doesn't

862
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:36,079
always kill the person that drops right on.

863
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,119
Speaker 1: Top of him. Yeah, he'll see him writhing around.

864
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:41,039
Speaker 3: So whatever explosive this guy had to kill seven is insane.

865
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, I read that, and I got excited,

866
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:47,159
and then I thought about it as it was coming

867
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:48,960
out of my mouth. I'm like, this is very dumb.

868
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: I wish that was the case, and I guess I

869
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,960
wish that was the case. Like he just was deep

870
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,920
throating a stick of dynamite.

871
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,639
Speaker 3: Like he he was the garbage truck and okay, see,

872
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,360
like he was just filled with manures height it was

873
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,079
a rider truck.

874
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: Because it says blasting, I don't when you're crushing like

875
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,119
a cyanide pill, Look at what that means.

876
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,679
Speaker 2: Blasting caps. Blasting that's just that's just yeah, a dog.

877
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,400
If they can't, then if them cops cast me, I'm

878
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,880
on blast caps. I'll blasted caps.

879
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: Crushing a cap of cyanide, Okay, yeah, you kill yourself,

880
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,760
but blasting caps, it just sounds so extravagant, sounds awesome. Dude.

881
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,079
Speaker 3: Maybe his maybe each one of his teeth went to

882
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,119
the brain, Yeah, because it just blew his teeth out,

883
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,920
and that was the shrapnel that killed seven. Maybe his

884
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:38,320
jawbone hit someone else. You know, it's technically possible, but

885
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,039
and I'm gonna believe that that's what happened.

886
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, choose your own adventures. But I was very dumb.

887
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:50,960
I'm sorry for that aside. I see the floor, It's okay. Uh.

888
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: So, on a first day in New York City, she

889
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,239
goes to a cafe full of anarchists and other activists,

890
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,840
and she meets anarchist Alexander Berkman, who's like, you should

891
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,079
come to my speech. I definitely. It's definitely not because

892
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,800
I want to bang you. They go to a speech.

893
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,159
So they go to another speech, not his speech, of

894
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:10,119
another anarchist, Jonathan Most uh and he talks about the

895
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:12,880
propaganda of the deed. The anarchists were essentially into this

896
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,599
thing where we can't just talk about it, can't just

897
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:18,440
be vibes and essays. We got to fucking kill people.

898
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:20,280
That's why they killed so many people. They were like,

899
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,519
we have to kill people. If we don't kill people,

900
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:26,199
no one will take us seriously. A lot of fucking people.

901
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm too scared to fight anyone these days. Well,

902
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,360
I don't want to get punched. As as as your gun, yeah,

903
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,760
well I can't pull a gun into fist fight. I

904
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,039
have to accept the fact I'll get punched.

905
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

906
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: So Most took her under his wing and taught her

907
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,079
how to public speak and all this stuff.

908
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

909
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:52,159
Speaker 2: She does her first public speaking gig and is enthralled

910
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:55,039
by it, keeps doing public speaking and but Most is

911
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:56,840
like trying to control her, be like, this is how

912
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,119
you're supposed to be an anarchist, this is how anarchists work.

913
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:01,760
You got to rep what I say because I'm like

914
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:05,320
the fucking king shit anarchist. Like, trust me, I know

915
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,920
what I'm doing. She quickly, who doesn't like any authority

916
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,760
and by the way, there's a hierarchy in the anarchist society, like,

917
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,360
you gotta listen to me, I'm the king anarchist. Oh,

918
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,079
doesn't make a lot of sense. So she and Most

919
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:23,599
start arguing over her independence. After she goes on stage

920
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:27,320
one time and says basically whatever she wants, which is

921
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,280
what an anarchist should do. I suppose she gets back

922
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,320
to New York and Most is furious with her and says,

923
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,800
who is not with me is against me? And she's

924
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,239
kicked out of most anarchist crew.

925
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: It's a confusing sentence.

926
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,519
Speaker 2: They're more eloquent back then.

927
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: No, but most anarchist groups.

928
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:52,079
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, mosts anarchist group. Now, most anarchist

929
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:58,360
groups love her, but mosts anarchist group, not so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

930
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,719
what's on second?

931
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,679
Speaker 1: Who's on fast? Most synarchist groups.

932
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: Most anarchist groups don't like most anarchist group, A pole says,

933
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:15,519
so she gets kicked out. However, she had begun a

934
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:19,960
friendship with that guy Berkman, and before long they became

935
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:22,039
lovers and moved into a communal apartment.

936
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:23,639
Speaker 1: She's living like communal.

937
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: Places her whole life. Like, she's living like eight people

938
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,800
to a fucking apartment constantly.

939
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 3: Because it makes sense.

940
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: Property is bullshit and everyone needs to.

941
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: Share a room. And if a bang sash.

942
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,679
Speaker 3: Breaks out, a bang sash, I mean she's living by

943
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,679
her own standards.

944
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so it is just nothing but orgies. I think

945
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,280
these people were pretty sexual. She swinging both ways.

946
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:50,119
Speaker 2: No, I didn't read that. Actually I didn't find that,

947
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:52,920
but it wouldn't surprise me if she tossed a finger.

948
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:56,119
Speaker 1: Or A body's a body at that point. Yeah, you're

949
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:56,679
in a pile.

950
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 2: If you are an anarchist, you have to be a

951
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,599
pay and sexual.

952
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means.

953
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: A bisexual, that's that's bodies, yeah, pan sexual as bodies

954
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,800
of body holds a hole. Yeah, which is the same

955
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,360
as pie.

956
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:14,199
Speaker 1: But whatever, it holds a whole dog.

957
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a thang's a dang finger, dick tongue doesn't matter,

958
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:20,760
just get it?

959
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

960
00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:23,599
Speaker 2: Just you just live a liberated life, you know what I.

961
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,679
Speaker 1: Mean at that time? Why not?

962
00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: I mean other than in fact everyone's kind of gross

963
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,559
and dirty.

964
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I'm sure they had running water.

965
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:36,039
Speaker 1: By then, right, some people now pant sexuals also have

966
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:40,360
sex with like inanimate objects. No, they're anybody. But why

967
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,519
aren't they just bisexual?

968
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 2: Because idiot?

969
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, we told you they fuck animals too.

970
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: No, it's just people, men and women holes a hole.

971
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: Okay, get it now.

972
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 2: Not really Okay, let me explain it to you again.

973
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:04,800
It's a pand sexual and not a bisexual because.

974
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,159
Speaker 1: Attention.

975
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: No, I ended my sentence at because okay, so you

976
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,320
get a grip, dude, idiot, grow up, Okay, Grandpa.

977
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: Boomer be more accepting stuff being such a bigot.

978
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,559
Speaker 2: So in eighteen ninety two, Goldman joins Berkman and another guy.

979
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:27,400
They opened an ice cream shop. I guess just to

980
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,800
fund they're bullshit. After a few months of operating the shop.

981
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:33,639
Speaker 1: Maybe she has learned from her dad just keep on

982
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,280
opening things.

983
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 2: Well that's like all yeah, Like, I like, I guess

984
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,519
I didn't follow my parent footsteps, but I guess if

985
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:40,519
I did, like I would be an attorney. And she's

986
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,719
just like, oh, my dad was a failed businessman, so

987
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,079
I must be a failed businessman.

988
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:46,599
Speaker 1: I could have been a third generation water man, could

989
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:46,840
have been.

990
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: A water treat, a work in the water fields.

991
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:57,159
Speaker 1: Just throwing chemicals in, throwing all the fluoride into chemicals,

992
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:03,199
making the population dumb. Got the flora, holde.

993
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:07,639
Speaker 2: Got the flora going to melt, that brain, going to

994
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,840
melt that brain.

995
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: You're doing spirituals now, I don't know.

996
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: It's a sea shanty, all right.

997
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's that old Philadelphia waterman spiritual.

998
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,639
Speaker 1: Ask your dad, I'll sing it to you verbati. So

999
00:49:28,639 --> 00:49:29,159
uh there.

1000
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,119
Speaker 2: The Homestead strike breaks out in Pittsburgh. It's a big

1001
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,599
strike against a steel mill or yeah, steel plant owned

1002
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:39,280
by Andrew Carnegie. H When talks between the Carnegie Steel

1003
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:44,360
Company and the union breakdown, management closes, the plant locks

1004
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,239
out the workers, blah blah blah. They immediately go on strike.

1005
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:51,039
Strike breakers are brought in hired by and the company

1006
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:54,920
hires Pinkerton guards to protect them. On July sixth, fights break.

1007
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,039
A fight breaks out between three hundred pinkreding guards and

1008
00:49:57,039 --> 00:49:59,639
a crowd of armed union workers. During the twelve hour

1009
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:03,440
gun fight, seven guards and nine strikers are killed. M

1010
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:08,119
typical union shits. In the eighteen hundreds late eighteen hundreds.

1011
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: Pinkertons were no joke. They fuck.

1012
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 3: If they only killed nine in a twelve hour gunfight,

1013
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,039
you sucked, dude.

1014
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: It was nine and seven. It wasn't like it a grip.

1015
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,360
It wasn't the gunfights you're thinking of. This isn't Yeah,

1016
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,280
it's just you were in the fucking military, like this

1017
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,920
is this is all Actually it's not all amateurs. The

1018
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,599
pinkertons are trained, but the union workers are amateurs, and

1019
00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:32,840
I think they're kind of just like peop.

1020
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:37,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, little potshots they call it. Those are called pot shots. Yeah,

1021
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:38,559
like a random just one off.

1022
00:50:38,679 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a full on.

1023
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:41,199
Speaker 3: And they go and they run away.

1024
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: That's cool.

1025
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:46,559
Speaker 2: L shaped ambush like flanking this fucking you know what

1026
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:46,800
I mean.

1027
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,199
Speaker 3: Pinkertons didn't L shape that so well.

1028
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: The pinkertons might have, but the union workers won't. And

1029
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,559
the pigadans were playing defense. Yeah, almost certainly, I would imagine.

1030
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 3: So you also gotta think, like, which I forget about

1031
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,000
A lot is a lot of people people don't want

1032
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:04,480
to kill someone mm hmm, like I'm gonna shoot at

1033
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,960
them or around them, like I don't want it.

1034
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: I would imagine the hint that guy.

1035
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:11,639
Speaker 2: I don't know about the War on Terror because I

1036
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,599
feel like US soldiers are so well trained nowadays. But

1037
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:17,320
I know in World War Two, a lot of people

1038
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,960
because it was literally citizen soldiers like me and Dan

1039
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:25,599
would have been in the army. Uh, we're just aiming

1040
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,280
to keep people pinned down, Yeah, you know what I mean,

1041
00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:31,119
and letting other people kill them, whether it's artillery.

1042
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: That was certainly the case with that was a huge

1043
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,280
thing in the Civil War, even like oh yeah, because

1044
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,440
they didn't want to like shoot their fellow citizen.

1045
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: They found a lot they find a lot of bullet

1046
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,199
holes in the Civil War, uh, in trees at a

1047
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,559
point where it would be almost have to be purposefully aimed,

1048
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,920
right when you're like fire the volley or whatever, and

1049
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,719
you're just like, I don't want to kill anyone.

1050
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, that's a fucking dude from Virginia.

1051
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,519
Speaker 2: Here's my thought is that I'm standing in that line,

1052
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,119
and I'm like, Okay, I don't want to kill anyone,

1053
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:06,159
but I'm not certain that they don't want to kill anyone.

1054
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, So I'd be the first guy to drop

1055
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,920
my muscle a little bit lower.

1056
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:16,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is what it is, man Like, I'm sorry,

1057
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,760
but I don't know what you want.

1058
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it, but I don't know

1059
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,280
what you want to do. Blame circumstance.

1060
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: You might really fucking hate me for no reason. Yeah,

1061
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,880
so I'm gonna have to shoot you, bro.

1062
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,599
Speaker 2: It is what I don't want to do it.

1063
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to do it, but I don't want.

1064
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,159
Speaker 1: To get shot in the face by a miniball.

1065
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:33,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1066
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: Just bouncing around in there like a pinball machine real quick.

1067
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:39,480
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1119
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1123
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1125
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1152
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1153
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:27,719
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Speaker 2: The majority of the nation's newspapers actually express support for

1162
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,519
the Strikers, and Goldman and Burke. Goldman and Berkman were like, Okay,

1163
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,920
we're anarchists propaganda of the deed. We're going you assassinate

1164
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,880
this guy, Frick, who is kind of one of the

1165
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,239
guys in charge of the plant or whatever. Not Carnegie,

1166
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,480
but another guy who's in charge of the plant. So

1167
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,920
they thought, hear me out, if you've heard this logic before,

1168
00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:20,519
if we killed this guy, all the workers in the

1169
00:57:20,519 --> 00:57:25,440
country will rise up and revolt against capitalism. If we

1170
00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:29,079
kill this one random guy whose name you would only

1171
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:33,480
know if you read the newspaper articles closely. Yes, the

1172
00:57:33,639 --> 00:57:35,960
entire country will rise up against their economics.

1173
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: Well, it's also like the Nike king, right, you take

1174
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,920
off head Honcho, all of his henchmen and underlings, they

1175
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:43,440
just die.

1176
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: Well, not even had Honcho, not killing Carnegie.

1177
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: This is a white walker, so you just gotta take

1178
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,639
the head of Carnegie and everyone else falls.

1179
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,079
Speaker 2: But they didn't do that, but they did go after Frick.

1180
00:57:55,519 --> 00:57:58,639
So Berkman said he would carry out the assassination. However,

1181
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:00,599
the ice cream shop wasn't doing well, so you need

1182
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:02,119
to find a way to get money to get him

1183
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:02,880
to Pittsburgh.

1184
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,199
Speaker 1: They should have opened the coffee shop. Yeah, nobody makes

1185
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:10,239
better coffee than an anarchist. I agree. That's what they're

1186
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:10,760
meant to do.

1187
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: Oh you're an anarchist.

1188
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: I bet you're a hell of barista. Oh yeah, my.

1189
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 3: Brother is literally that. But with tea, he acts. He

1190
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:25,519
was in Portland. I'll limit what I say, but he

1191
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:27,840
was in Portland during a lot of things, and he

1192
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,079
just made tea.

1193
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1194
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: Now now he's now he's in La making coffee.

1195
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: Same yeah. Yeah, but you go to like a local

1196
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:39,280
mom and pop coffee shop, it's always a day then.

1197
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1198
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: He was just someone who's like, fuck the system, man,

1199
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,800
and you're like, you're pretty good at that fucking cappuccino system.

1200
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:51,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, don't fuck that's love what you do.

1201
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:53,159
I'm that guy.

1202
00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:56,159
Speaker 3: That's like if I walk into a place and they

1203
00:58:56,159 --> 00:59:00,119
have a Biden Harris or Hillary Clinton flag, I'm I'm

1204
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:02,559
gonna get my coffee. Still, I'm not that dude. It's like,

1205
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:06,079
I'm not going to support and give money to them.

1206
00:59:06,239 --> 00:59:08,000
That's probably a really good fucking coffee.

1207
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: And if it is, it's like saying you only want

1208
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,960
your like you don't like immigrants, but you so you

1209
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,440
only want your tacos to be made by like real

1210
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:18,360
white tea exactly nothing.

1211
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:18,719
Speaker 1: But for the hour.

1212
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fucking kidding me. Yeah, I don't want to

1213
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,000
speak a word of it. I don't have to use

1214
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,679
Google Translate to onder my fucking food.

1215
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,159
Speaker 1: Now listen, do I want the flower tortillas? Of course? Yes.

1216
00:59:29,199 --> 00:59:31,599
Speaker 2: I have been at the gas station at the Frow neighborhood.

1217
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:32,559
Speaker 1: There's a taco shop in there.

1218
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: No one speaks English and they have to ask me

1219
00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:39,079
what the meat I want and all that stuff. They

1220
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:44,360
never ever ever ask me what tortilla I want?

1221
00:59:44,679 --> 00:59:46,039
Speaker 3: Is it laredo tacos?

1222
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,199
Speaker 2: Is that something else for the name of it, But

1223
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:50,760
they know they know.

1224
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,559
Speaker 3: When I when I go to a like a Mexican

1225
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,039
like meat market to get food, I will purposefully be

1226
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:00,920
like hello, good afternoon when I introduce myself or like

1227
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,000
say hi to them, so they know I don't speak Spanish. Yeah,

1228
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:07,320
and then yeah, they'll assume I speak Spanish and head

1229
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,280
it over. Remember, and You're like, I don't like dude,

1230
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:12,000
half pound carnitas.

1231
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,239
Speaker 1: He sounds like you're just from so Cow. You're like, oh, yeah,

1232
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,159
you San Diego, Brita here.

1233
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,679
Speaker 3: Well, purposefully whiten everything to make them like, oh, this

1234
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,320
guy does.

1235
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: Not know you're not going in just being like, I'm

1236
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,280
so tired, so sleepy.

1237
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:31,039
Speaker 2: So Berkman is like, I'm going to carry out the attack.

1238
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,440
Goldman's like, okay, we gotta get you some money. I'll

1239
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,639
fund it. And she decided to do this through because

1240
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:39,440
the ice cream shop wasn't work, and decided to do

1241
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,599
it through prostitution. She's gonna sell herself on the street.

1242
01:00:43,679 --> 01:00:47,079
You get a taco and a cone with plenty of cream,

1243
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:53,880
you're semen. So she's working the street one day trying

1244
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,000
to fund the assassination, and Goldman caught the eye of

1245
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,360
a man and so he's like, come on, let's.

1246
01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:04,559
Speaker 1: Have a drink before we get down to business or whatever.

1247
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:05,719
So they go in a saloon.

1248
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,519
Speaker 2: He buys her a beer, gives her ten dollars, and goes, honey,

1249
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,880
you don't have the knack for this business.

1250
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: Get off the street. I think he was going after

1251
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,079
our looks. Wasn't the knack.

1252
01:01:21,159 --> 01:01:23,559
Speaker 2: No, he straight up said, you are not cut out

1253
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:26,519
to He's like, I've had plenty of prostitutes. You're not

1254
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:31,639
cut out to be a prostitute. Stop now. Goldman said

1255
01:01:31,679 --> 01:01:36,599
she was too astounded for speech. Quit prostituting immediately. When

1256
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:39,480
her first customer was like, you ain't it?

1257
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,159
Speaker 1: Yeah? I looked at her. She is not, you know

1258
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:45,199
something I want to pay for?

1259
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,519
Speaker 2: What do you think street prostitutes look like in the

1260
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:50,880
fucking eighteen eighties?

1261
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:51,679
Speaker 3: They don't look good.

1262
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: Now, that's a fair point.

1263
01:01:58,639 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: So she wrote her sister and was like, I'm sick.

1264
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,719
Can you send me fifteen dollars?

1265
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: Her sister does so.

1266
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,159
Speaker 2: Berkman gains access to Frick's office, carrying a concealed handgun, just.

1267
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:09,599
Speaker 1: Having a handout, Yeah, fifteen bones.

1268
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: He gets into Frick's office, shoots Frick three times and

1269
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,519
stabs him in the leg. Frick, why the leg, I

1270
01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:19,559
don't know, Maybe from oral artery, Maybe he's just nervous.

1271
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:22,960
I don't think he's killed anyone before. So Frick is

1272
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:28,760
sitting there wounded, and uh, these workers come in, like workers,

1273
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,199
not Pinkerton people, whatever, workers, And Berkman's like, I did it?

1274
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,679
Speaker 1: Aren't you happy?

1275
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,199
Speaker 2: And the workers beat the christ out of them?

1276
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's my dog. Dude, pays me fair wages.

1277
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,199
Speaker 1: Dude, they catered lunch on Tuesday.

1278
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the workers who were striking beat the fuck out

1279
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,320
of Berkman for shooting Frick. He's carried away by police unconscious.

1280
01:02:57,679 --> 01:03:00,800
Police then arrests Goldman as well, the voice.

1281
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:04,239
Speaker 1: Of the working class very rarely uh you know, associate

1282
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:05,639
with the working class. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1283
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,639
Speaker 2: I saw a funny like TikTok or real or something

1284
01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:11,199
from some like like he's liberal, but he's like kind

1285
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:13,719
of redneck, kind of blue collar guy, and he's like, socialists,

1286
01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:17,400
every working class person you claim to fucking hates you,

1287
01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:21,559
fucking hates you. That's one of my favorite scenes in

1288
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:24,360
Oppenheimer when they're all trying to organize for socialism and

1289
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,440
Josh Hartnett buston and he's like, what the fuck do

1290
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,719
you think you have in common with a grape farmer?

1291
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,679
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And they're all like, but where woo?

1292
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,400
Theory only gets you so far? Rob it done exactly

1293
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:39,480
so U.

1294
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 2: Everyone, the workers, the obviously, the Carnegie, other anarchists, even

1295
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:51,000
everyone condemns the attacks, h and all this shit, and

1296
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:51,800
she's furious.

1297
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:52,519
Speaker 1: Uh.

1298
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: She confronts one of her most her former pro like

1299
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,239
her former mentalor on stage and whips him with a

1300
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,239
whip and all this shit.

1301
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: But she later sa whips him with a knife. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1302
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,039
so yeah she hates that.

1303
01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: What the fuck I know right, she whips them that

1304
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:12,239
she later wrote, at the age of twenty three, one

1305
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,159
does not reason. So she's twenty three when all this

1306
01:04:14,199 --> 01:04:17,039
is happening. If that sounds familiar to you. When the

1307
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:19,559
Panic eighteen ninety three hits the following year, the US

1308
01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:22,199
is in an economic crisis, she starts speaking to huge

1309
01:04:22,239 --> 01:04:24,960
crowds because everyone's like, oh, we're in an economic crisis.

1310
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,760
Maybe we want a different way. She says, we need

1311
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,480
to take everything by force. She's arrested in Philadelphia, returned

1312
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:32,639
to New York for trial.

1313
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,119
Speaker 1: For welcome a riot handled business there.

1314
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. During the train ride, Jacob's offered the police offered

1315
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:44,639
to drop the charges if she informs on her fellow anarchists.

1316
01:04:44,719 --> 01:04:47,039
She throws a glass of water in the CoP's face says,

1317
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:49,960
fuck you, I'm not ratting anyone out. As she awaited trial,

1318
01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:54,440
Goldman was visited by a reporter by the name of Nellie.

1319
01:04:54,199 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: Bly Nellie Good Old Nelly. Yeah.

1320
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,559
Speaker 2: She spent two hours talking to Goldman and wrote a

1321
01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:02,280
positive article about Goldman, who and called her the modern

1322
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,440
Joan of arc By the way, this woman just tried

1323
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,920
to help assassinate a completely innocent man.

1324
01:05:07,679 --> 01:05:12,159
Speaker 1: But sure, you know they're not all his for Nelly.

1325
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: Despite the positive publicity, she was found guilty because the

1326
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,119
jury was like, this bitch is crazy. She was sentenced

1327
01:05:22,159 --> 01:05:26,559
to a year in Blackwell is Island Penitentiary. Goldman was

1328
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:28,480
released ten months later to a rock his crowd of

1329
01:05:28,519 --> 01:05:32,000
three thousand people. And then in November eighteen ninety nine,

1330
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:35,519
she went to Europe to speak to a anarchist hovel

1331
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:40,360
in London. Then her and her buddy Berkman traveled to

1332
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:46,960
France to organize the most I guess, hypocritical sounding thing

1333
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,000
in the world, the International Anarchist Congress.

1334
01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:52,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1335
01:05:52,639 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: I just assume all this ends with.

1336
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: A lobotomy somehow. No, she lives a long fulfilling.

1337
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: Is it fulfilling? No? Actually she gets really sad at

1338
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,519
the end and it's like my life sucked.

1339
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 2: In nineteen oh one, McKinley's assassin, Leon the Pollock tries

1340
01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:20,119
to meet up with her and multiple times they're.

1341
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: Like, this guy's weird. I don't want to talk to him, right.

1342
01:06:22,159 --> 01:06:24,559
Speaker 2: And anyway, he goes on to shoot McKinley. She gets

1343
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:27,000
arrested again because they think she's part of it. Because

1344
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,480
at this point she's a very famous anarchist. However, she's

1345
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,880
eventually released when even the Pollock is like, yeah, she

1346
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:37,559
wouldn't talk to me. I wanted to hang out with her,

1347
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:41,639
but she didn't have anything to do with it. Still,

1348
01:06:41,679 --> 01:06:44,000
she was vilified in the press as the quote high

1349
01:06:44,039 --> 01:06:49,800
priestess of anarchy, and many newspapers not wrongfully declared the

1350
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,880
anarchist movement responsible.

1351
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: For the murder.

1352
01:06:52,199 --> 01:06:55,199
Speaker 2: In the wake of these events of McKinley's assassination, this

1353
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,719
is when socialism started to get more popular than anarchism

1354
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:05,719
in the United States. After McKinley's assassin was executed, Goldman

1355
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:10,000
kind of withdrew from society for a little bit. However,

1356
01:07:11,079 --> 01:07:13,960
when another anarchist was arrested, she joined the Free Speech

1357
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,320
League to champion his cause. She returned to anarchists activism,

1358
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,039
but it was taking her toll. Hunter, She wrote, I

1359
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:22,679
never felt so weighed down. I fear I am forever

1360
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,239
doomed to remain public property and have my life worn

1361
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,559
out through the care of the lives of others. Nineteen

1362
01:07:28,599 --> 01:07:31,639
oh six, she started an anarchist publication. That same year,

1363
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:35,679
Berkman was released from prison and carrying a bouquet of roses,

1364
01:07:35,679 --> 01:07:38,000
she met him at the prison because he went to

1365
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:40,239
jail longer obviously for literally trying to kill the guy,

1366
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,880
and she found herself seized by terror pity for how fucked.

1367
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:44,159
Speaker 1: Up he looked.

1368
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,039
Speaker 2: It took him weeks to adjust the outside a real

1369
01:07:48,519 --> 01:07:51,559
Brooks was here situation, and he actually bought a gun

1370
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,480
and was gonna kill himself because he couldn't handle being

1371
01:07:54,559 --> 01:08:00,440
on the outside. But Goldman was arrested again with a

1372
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,679
group of activists because they were They had a meeting

1373
01:08:02,719 --> 01:08:06,760
to talk about how McKinley's assassin was, you know, wrongly

1374
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,760
executed because he was mentally ill, and uh, Berkman was like,

1375
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:18,159
my resurrection has come and it reinvigorated him. However, the

1376
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:22,720
relationship didn't last long because Berkman started banging a fifteen

1377
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:23,159
year old.

1378
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 1: Hm.

1379
01:08:24,199 --> 01:08:26,399
Speaker 3: Fuck, that's worse than his dick not working.

1380
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. So Goldman was sad and you know whatever.

1381
01:08:31,079 --> 01:08:34,159
In the spring they broke up. In the spring of

1382
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,239
nineteen oh eight, Goldman met and fell in love with

1383
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:40,680
Ben Rightman, the so called hobo doctor okay, whose specialty

1384
01:08:41,239 --> 01:08:43,760
he was how he fixed up hobos or he was

1385
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,439
a hobo both. Actually, dude, that would have been me

1386
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,359
back then, yeah, it was both. He was a hobo

1387
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,039
who became a doctor and then specialized in hobos overdoses.

1388
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, some like stab wounds, yeah, apachia.

1389
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 2: Actually he specialized in s because hobos were just rotting

1390
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,000
from syphilis and shit like that.

1391
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,239
Speaker 1: They'd be fucking yeah.

1392
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be that dude anymore. Yeah, that's

1393
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,840
a weird thing to look at. So he and Goldman

1394
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:13,239
became lovers.

1395
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: However, since they shared a commitment to free love, and

1396
01:09:17,039 --> 01:09:19,039
she was like, well, I don't want to be a hypocrite.

1397
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:21,000
I'm an anarchist. You can fuck whoever you want. I

1398
01:09:21,039 --> 01:09:25,079
guess he did, but she was jealous and she never

1399
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:27,680
did because she really wanted to be monogamous but didn't

1400
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,600
want to be a hypocrite.

1401
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: Essentially women. Yeah. Uh.

1402
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,319
Speaker 2: So she gets really into birth control for a while,

1403
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:38,000
gets arrested a couple times for that.

1404
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,279
Speaker 1: Dude. It happens up.

1405
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: Big champion of birth control. Then this is where she

1406
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:47,680
really gets in trouble.

1407
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,399
Speaker 1: In the United States.

1408
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: World War one is closing in, It's already going on,

1409
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,119
but the US isn't in it yet. Woodrow Wilson passes

1410
01:09:54,119 --> 01:09:56,640
a Selective Service Act and she goes around organizing for

1411
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,760
people to not sign up, and the US government is like,

1412
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:06,520
fuck that she's arrested again, damn it, and she goes

1413
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,000
to prison.

1414
01:10:07,159 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Wilson era was essentially a police state kind

1415
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:12,640
of dude.

1416
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 3: I would you couldn't really right now, if like a

1417
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,840
draft happened in World War three, I would tell all

1418
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,439
my friends not to go. Oh yeah, so fuck that's illegal.

1419
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:23,520
That's a crazy thing.

1420
01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:24,520
Speaker 1: It was.

1421
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was essentially illegal because after the McKinley assassination,

1422
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,800
they passed I forget the bill, but it was like

1423
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,279
the Anti Anarchist Act more or less. This was under

1424
01:10:33,319 --> 01:10:36,560
Teddy Roosevelt, by the way, and essentially it was like

1425
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,600
Patriot Act level, like we'll arrest.

1426
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:39,039
Speaker 1: You for anything.

1427
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 2: You will arrest you for anything anti government.

1428
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,399
Speaker 1: But also that era World War One, the propaganda was

1429
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,319
do not fuck any man that doesn't sign up, like

1430
01:10:49,399 --> 01:10:50,359
he's a coward.

1431
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: It's a good propaganda. That's the other side of the

1432
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:57,399
coin of the IDF battie is the uh the impotent

1433
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:03,680
draft dodger, hot girls joined the military, cocked dudes with

1434
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,279
weak cock, don't you know.

1435
01:11:07,359 --> 01:11:11,319
Speaker 3: The IDF has like a special needs division and like

1436
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,199
they like help sew and like patch up uniforms and

1437
01:11:14,199 --> 01:11:14,880
shit like that.

1438
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: Do we not? I don't think we do. I don't

1439
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,520
think you can have down syndrome ANDBIA.

1440
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,119
Speaker 3: But like the idea has like it's like a volunteer thing.

1441
01:11:23,359 --> 01:11:27,000
Oh but you like volunteer to like serve and you

1442
01:11:27,119 --> 01:11:30,399
kind of just help sew up uniforms or just like

1443
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:35,960
distribute uniforms. The guys served, but they have that.

1444
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,039
Speaker 2: Look logistics win wars, yeah, all right, not tactics, no,

1445
01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:42,439
not at all. For everyone in you on the front line,

1446
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,560
there's eight people making sure, yeah you kill. I don't

1447
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:47,560
know what the number is.

1448
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 3: I think it's like thirteen people to like send an

1449
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,079
infantry guy to whatever. But that's not even a real number.

1450
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,319
Like the dental technician didn't right, it's got good jeez,

1451
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:01,640
I don't have good fucking teeth, bro.

1452
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:04,279
Speaker 2: I guess if you nail it down and you shave

1453
01:12:04,319 --> 01:12:06,239
off that, it's probably still like six to one.

1454
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:11,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, Like the other cooks didn't sustain me for war.

1455
01:12:11,319 --> 01:12:14,239
Like no, I went to Popeyes. You guys can't cook.

1456
01:12:14,079 --> 01:12:15,239
Speaker 1: And they're not cooking MRI.

1457
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,399
Speaker 3: But like technically there there's like a number of how

1458
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,000
many people, and that's where the infantry is like we're

1459
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,279
the best because it takes thirty people to do whatever.

1460
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,359
Like no, not really, it's like four. Yeah, it's still

1461
01:12:28,359 --> 01:12:30,359
a lot like the guy that gives us amo, the

1462
01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:32,039
guy that gives us the equipment.

1463
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: And got to get to drive you there.

1464
01:12:33,159 --> 01:12:35,119
Speaker 3: And then yeah, the dude that like calls in artillery,

1465
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:36,880
you know, like that's cool.

1466
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: So she goes to jail for that gets out during

1467
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,800
the Red Scare of nineteen nineteen, nineteen twenty, and uh,

1468
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,680
I guess who's a big player in the US government

1469
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,319
at this point?

1470
01:12:50,079 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: Warng G.

1471
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,079
Speaker 2: No, No, this isn't a president. This isn't a president.

1472
01:12:54,119 --> 01:12:55,760
But this guy will be a big player for the

1473
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:56,560
next forty.

1474
01:12:56,319 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: To fifty years. I mean, warrang g was never a

1475
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,680
true Walt Disney major player.

1476
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 2: Now Walt Old Henry Ford, j Edgar Hoover, jed Goar

1477
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,319
Hoover is like, this bitch.

1478
01:13:08,079 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: Has got to go.

1479
01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: The vacuum guy FBI, the FBI, guy who.

1480
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 2: Started the FBI.

1481
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah it was a cross dresser. What Yeah, he was hoovering.

1482
01:13:17,279 --> 01:13:20,439
Fuck it's probably hoovering a little wit so because he

1483
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,680
suckd that dick so good.

1484
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: At this point, Hoover is deporting any non citizen who

1485
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,279
is remotely anti government, Like, if you're here on a

1486
01:13:28,319 --> 01:13:31,079
visa and shit like that or whatever, you're an immigrant

1487
01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:32,600
at all, He's like, get the fuck out if you're

1488
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,680
not a goddamn cheerleader for the United States.

1489
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:36,159
Speaker 1: Oh shit.

1490
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,119
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Goldman is not on a visa.

1491
01:13:39,159 --> 01:13:42,359
She's an American citizen at this point, but she still

1492
01:13:42,399 --> 01:13:44,840
has a deportation hearing because they want to get her

1493
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,520
the fuck out of the country. In nineteen nineteen, at

1494
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,439
her deportation hearing, Goldman refused to answer questions about her

1495
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,199
beliefs because she was like, I'm an American citizen. It

1496
01:13:54,279 --> 01:13:55,439
literally doesn't matter what I believe.

1497
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:56,359
Speaker 1: Fuck fuck you.

1498
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: Uh spoiler alert, she got deported.

1499
01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:05,399
Speaker 1: No, oh wait, we can deport citizens.

1500
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 3: That shit don't change.

1501
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,359
Speaker 2: That has happened before. She was deported, despite the fact

1502
01:14:10,359 --> 01:14:12,840
that she was a straight up on paper US citizen.

1503
01:14:13,039 --> 01:14:14,079
Speaker 1: It's funny how that works.

1504
01:14:14,079 --> 01:14:16,079
Speaker 2: Where she said, never, it's never happened before. It never

1505
01:14:16,079 --> 01:14:18,119
happened before. We wouldn't do that, We would never do that.

1506
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:19,119
We haven't done that before.

1507
01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:22,399
Speaker 1: Uh.

1508
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: Where she sent back to Venezuela, Russia, Russia during the

1509
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:30,600
Russian Revolution. Good Goldman initially was like, Okay, I'm not

1510
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,039
a socialist, but I think this Russian Revolution is pretty sweet.

1511
01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:35,439
You know, the people, it's the people, the people are

1512
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,359
rising up. But she still did have reservations because it

1513
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:42,560
involved a government and she's an anarchist. She was shocked,

1514
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:49,119
shocked to find out that the Russian Revolution was not

1515
01:14:49,399 --> 01:14:50,840
living up to its ideals.

1516
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: Oh, Lennin, wasn't you know, always cracked up to be.

1517
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was shocked to hear a party official refer

1518
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:07,760
to free speech as a quote bourgeois superstition. They traveled

1519
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,560
around the country Herne Berkman, who was also deported, and

1520
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:16,720
they found repression, mismanagement, corruption, fucking everywhere, no equality or

1521
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:21,439
worker empowerment at all, believe it or not. Then they

1522
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,359
had their aforementioned face to face with Vladimir Lenin, who

1523
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:30,840
assured them he was like, hey, hey, I promise government

1524
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,399
suppression of the press is totally justified. There can't be

1525
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,680
any free speech in a revolutionary period.

1526
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,079
Speaker 1: Why is she important enough to have a meeting with Lenin?

1527
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,680
She was a big deal, a fairly big deal.

1528
01:15:43,279 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 3: She's spoken enough in front of people in the States.

1529
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: I guess yeah.

1530
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was a big enough speaker and stuff like that,

1531
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:49,199
but she.

1532
01:15:49,159 --> 01:15:51,520
Speaker 3: Didn't do anything besides speak.

1533
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 2: She tried to kill tried to kill one guy, one

1534
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:59,680
random factory boss and it failed, and it failed, tried

1535
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,039
to kill innocent person. The thing she's most sayings for

1536
01:16:02,119 --> 01:16:04,279
is a trying to kill an innocent person and b

1537
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,239
being like, fuck society, tear it all down and actually

1538
01:16:08,279 --> 01:16:10,239
we don't need to rebuild anything and everything will be great.

1539
01:16:10,359 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1540
01:16:11,159 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 2: She got interviewed by Nelly Bly smart yeah, and then

1541
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:18,720
Nelly Bly was like this chick rocks job queen ron bitches.

1542
01:16:19,039 --> 01:16:25,039
Speaker 1: You know you don't hate the media enough hashtag girl boss. Yeah.

1543
01:16:25,119 --> 01:16:28,119
Speaker 2: So even though Nelly or not Nelly, even though Goldman

1544
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:31,199
was like, oh, that's fucked up, lad, Berkman was like, no, no, no,

1545
01:16:31,239 --> 01:16:32,880
I get it. I get it, I get it. I

1546
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,399
totally get it. It's a historical necessity. That's is exact

1547
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,279
what historical necessity. In nineteen twenty one, more strikes erupted

1548
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,880
and Goldman and Berkman in Russia, and Goldman and Berkman

1549
01:16:43,279 --> 01:16:48,319
felt a need to support them. They go and these

1550
01:16:48,319 --> 01:16:51,399
strikes are horrible and a thousand people are killed by

1551
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,199
the Soviet government during the strikes.

1552
01:16:54,359 --> 01:16:56,359
Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds about right. Yeah.

1553
01:16:56,399 --> 01:16:58,119
Speaker 2: So they leave for Jermy, we got this is a

1554
01:16:58,119 --> 01:16:59,439
lost cause. To get the fuck out of here.

1555
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: They go to Germany.

1556
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,520
Speaker 2: She doesn't really find a lot of love in the

1557
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,239
leftist community in Berlin because she's like, hey, communists suck,

1558
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,800
and all the leftists are like, what bitch, fuck you

1559
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,880
communism rules and she's like, no, I wasn't there.

1560
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: I have lived experienced terrible. It's not great. And they

1561
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,720
were like you you, you ain't down.

1562
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out. So then she goes to London

1563
01:17:21,239 --> 01:17:23,520
and has a dinner in London with a bunch of

1564
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:29,000
important people, including Bertrand Russell and HG. Wells, and again

1565
01:17:29,319 --> 01:17:32,800
she's like, hey, I don't know.

1566
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:33,119
Speaker 1: I know.

1567
01:17:33,159 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 2: You guys are like really into this new revolution that's

1568
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,960
going on that's supposed to empower people.

1569
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: And shit in Russia.

1570
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,319
Speaker 2: But I was there and it was a fucking nightmare.

1571
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,479
None of that is happening. Most of the people get

1572
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,119
up and leave the dinner. Some people brate her for

1573
01:17:49,319 --> 01:17:51,680
not giving communism enough of a runway.

1574
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: Hoover them back in. I know, I know.

1575
01:17:54,199 --> 01:17:56,319
Speaker 2: So they actually do kind of let her back in

1576
01:17:56,319 --> 01:17:58,640
because she writes a book called like My Experience in

1577
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,760
Russia or something like that, which is essentially like Russia

1578
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:01,399
as a shitt hoole.

1579
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,319
Speaker 1: It's like that Asian North Korean chick that went on Rogan. Yeah, yeah,

1580
01:18:05,359 --> 01:18:06,159
like literally, Yeah.

1581
01:18:06,199 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 3: Didn't she have cannons too? With something weird?

1582
01:18:09,159 --> 01:18:12,119
Speaker 1: Was she pretty hot? I think so, wasn't she? I

1583
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:14,199
think so? Yeah? Yeah, But she was just trying to

1584
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:16,199
like describe what it was like living in North Korea,

1585
01:18:16,199 --> 01:18:18,760
and I don't know if it was, you know, totally accurate.

1586
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,279
Speaker 2: It seems like it was all made up but real

1587
01:18:21,319 --> 01:18:25,520
good content, Like all made up, but real good. Not

1588
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,079
all made up, but real good content. I mean, North

1589
01:18:27,159 --> 01:18:29,319
Korea's a nightmare. But it seems like the shit seat

1590
01:18:29,359 --> 01:18:30,279
she was saying.

1591
01:18:30,079 --> 01:18:31,319
Speaker 1: Was just fictional.

1592
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you believe you would anyone would believe anything

1593
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:35,039
about North Korea.

1594
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1595
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,079
Speaker 3: I spent a full year in Korea, and I believe

1596
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:42,319
anything from North Korea. I was like five miles from

1597
01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:44,039
the border, like that's where the base was.

1598
01:18:44,199 --> 01:18:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1599
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 3: I don't fucking know what's going on up there. All

1600
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,800
we knew was like, hey, they have enough artillery to

1601
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,680
fucking kill every one of us.

1602
01:18:52,319 --> 01:18:54,399
Speaker 2: That's a weird thing with like Russia and North Korea,

1603
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,640
maybe not China, but they're really still like artillery based. Yeah,

1604
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,680
they don't have the air power. So it's funny. It's like, yeah,

1605
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,520
they got so much artillery, but like that seemed like

1606
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,920
a problem there air force can solve in a day.

1607
01:19:06,159 --> 01:19:08,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, well dude, So the rumor was because we were

1608
01:19:08,399 --> 01:19:11,720
so close that maybe let it writ before you could

1609
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,680
do it, that they had five minutes worth of iron rain,

1610
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,279
which means like artillery hits every single point, like you

1611
01:19:18,319 --> 01:19:19,399
can't evade it.

1612
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally rainfall, but.

1613
01:19:21,159 --> 01:19:25,319
Speaker 2: With you know, right worth before planes get up in

1614
01:19:25,319 --> 01:19:25,560
the air.

1615
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 3: Yes, they had that, and so it's like when we

1616
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:33,159
would do drills every month of hey we're the North's attacking,

1617
01:19:33,359 --> 01:19:34,680
and so it'd be three in the morning. We have

1618
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,960
to wake up and do our bullshit. Like dude, you

1619
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,279
said they have five minutes of killing all of us.

1620
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:41,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the.

1621
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 3: First minute we'd all die if it's iron rain, like

1622
01:19:44,399 --> 01:19:49,680
we say it iss. Yeah, they know everything, like it's

1623
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,199
like they have you zero. It's very simple to see

1624
01:19:52,199 --> 01:19:54,279
and that's just the artillery we can see from the surface,

1625
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:55,840
let alone what ton.

1626
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 1: They might have had.

1627
01:19:57,399 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 3: So all I knew at North Korea is that like

1628
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,399
if they attacked, I'd be dead and there was nothing

1629
01:20:02,399 --> 01:20:03,119
I can do about it.

1630
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:05,520
Speaker 1: We'd win, but you're the pond exactly.

1631
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we would win, and then like the you know,

1632
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,239
the US would go into the south and you know,

1633
01:20:10,279 --> 01:20:12,640
pushed north again, but we would all just be like

1634
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,920
we were a speed bump. We called ourselves the speed Do.

1635
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: You ever dip a toe at the DMZ?

1636
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 3: I went there once and the funniest thing is that

1637
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,199
it was like the winter time and they're just like

1638
01:20:25,359 --> 01:20:27,960
their guards. Is like a South Korean guy in a

1639
01:20:28,039 --> 01:20:31,640
karate ghee with a black belt. It's two degrees outside,

1640
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:35,600
it's holding a stance with sunglasses on.

1641
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: It's snowing, you don't need.

1642
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: Those, and then it's bright you get snow blindness.

1643
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,520
Speaker 3: And then a North Korean guy on the other side,

1644
01:20:43,119 --> 01:20:46,760
also in a karate dance staring back, and that was like,

1645
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,680
what the fuck. It's just two dudes freezing their asses

1646
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,359
off for like an hour and then they switch out.

1647
01:20:52,399 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: That's pretty sweet though, So like we showed.

1648
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,079
Speaker 3: Up and then there's like the internal guards, like the changes.

1649
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: In Pakistan do that as well, where they'd like.

1650
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,079
Speaker 3: They do the stomping dances. Yeah, but these of you

1651
01:21:01,279 --> 01:21:05,359
just like stared at each other all day, and I

1652
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:06,840
was like, cool, there's the DMZ.

1653
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: I guess do you think they become friends?

1654
01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 3: I hope.

1655
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,159
Speaker 1: So they have something in common that no one else does. No,

1656
01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:17,079
they find common ground? Yeah yeah. So but like maybe

1657
01:21:17,119 --> 01:21:19,439
through they developed like sign language.

1658
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got twitch here and there. It's like, hey, bro,

1659
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,920
you good? Yeah, eight two days ago.

1660
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:31,039
Speaker 2: So she travels around speaking a lot as she gets

1661
01:21:31,039 --> 01:21:32,760
to come back to the United States and speak to

1662
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,720
talk about like Russia and her autobiography and stuff like that.

1663
01:21:36,079 --> 01:21:42,920
No anarchist politics allowed. In nineteen thirty six, Berkman, her

1664
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:47,880
friend Love or whatever, undergoes prostate gland operations. She receives

1665
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,319
a call in the middle of the night that Berkman's

1666
01:21:49,359 --> 01:21:52,239
in great distress. She leaves for Nice, France. She's in

1667
01:21:52,279 --> 01:21:55,680
France at this point. Leavest her Nice France, but when

1668
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,199
she arrived in the morning that she got of call

1669
01:21:58,239 --> 01:22:00,560
that Berkman was in great distress, she goes was fresh

1670
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,640
gang arrives in the morning, but she found that he

1671
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,119
had shot himself in the middle of the night. Oh fu,

1672
01:22:05,359 --> 01:22:06,760
but he didn't do it right.

1673
01:22:07,359 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: He was still alive, so he was in his mouth.

1674
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: He was completely comatose and paralyzed.

1675
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,359
Speaker 3: He went through the bottom of his jaw.

1676
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: Huh, I guess so he died later that night. Yeah,

1677
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,680
but he spent a one last bad day on earth.

1678
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: Yep at least finished his job for him.

1679
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, dude, up, go temple, Go temple, back of

1680
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,600
the brain. Don't go through the mouth, No temple. All

1681
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,920
the way bullets work in weird ways. Don't do it.

1682
01:22:30,199 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: As the events of the World War I, the dick

1683
01:22:33,199 --> 01:22:35,479
sweat to do it. You might bleed out.

1684
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:40,239
Speaker 3: The dick is the fastest way to the heart. They say, Yeah, you're.

1685
01:22:40,079 --> 01:22:42,119
Speaker 1: Gonna have no will to live anyway. Yeah, you take

1686
01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:42,720
that out.

1687
01:22:43,319 --> 01:22:45,399
Speaker 2: As the events of World War II began to unfold

1688
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,960
in Europe, Goldman reiterated her opposition to wars waged by governments.

1689
01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:53,119
She wrote, and this is really just illustrative of her

1690
01:22:53,279 --> 01:22:56,880
beliefs in general. Much as I loathed Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin

1691
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,880
and Franco, I would not support a war against that,

1692
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:06,319
for the democracies which would fight them, in the last analysis,

1693
01:23:06,399 --> 01:23:10,600
are fascist. But only are fascist in disguise. So she's like,

1694
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,439
America and England aren't better than Russia, which I have

1695
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,039
literally said in the past is the worst country on earth.

1696
01:23:16,319 --> 01:23:20,359
In Germany, which is even fucking worse than Russia, She's like,

1697
01:23:20,399 --> 01:23:22,039
they're all bad. Fuck them all.

1698
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 1: I hate that you gave this bitch a platform. I

1699
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:32,800
think I think I'm exposed in her sounds like he

1700
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:33,680
kind of like her.

1701
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 2: No, she sucks a lot. She suffered a stroke on

1702
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,880
May eighth, and she died six days later. In nineteen forty,

1703
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,760
at the age of seventy. The I ins allowed her

1704
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,439
body to be brought back to the United States and

1705
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:54,600
buried there, and in one last act of fucking annoyingness,

1706
01:23:55,159 --> 01:23:58,439
she was buried in Chicago near the graves of those

1707
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:03,680
executed after the haymark An affair. Because Goldman maintained about

1708
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,720
the Haymarket affair, in which seven cops were killed by

1709
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,800
a bomb thrown by a random person, a hot guy,

1710
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:17,079
a hot guy, that the real crime was not the bombing,

1711
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,840
but that the defendants were wrongly tried. According to her,

1712
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:29,399
it feels like they could both be crimes, they could

1713
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,359
both be bad. But she said that like the bombing

1714
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:33,119
wasn't actually the.

1715
01:24:33,079 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 1: Big deal in this situation. What do you think a

1716
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:37,600
revolution looks like?

1717
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:45,079
Speaker 2: Frod, I think it's vibes essays grow up. Anyway, that's

1718
01:24:45,159 --> 01:24:48,680
Emma Goldman, the high Priestess of anarchy.

1719
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: I want to flush this episode down the toilet.

1720
01:24:53,079 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 2: Let's not eric.

1721
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,399
Speaker 1: Yeah nah, yeah, we just did an hour and a change.

1722
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,720
What'd you guys learn today? Annoying bitches have always been around?

1723
01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:06,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that these people are like it really to the law.

1724
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,399
She had a lot of like self pity throughout her life,

1725
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,439
Like truly, she was just like, Oh, I just feel

1726
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,159
like I'm fighting for nothing, and I just feel like

1727
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:18,000
nothing's good to change, and oh I'm such a victim,

1728
01:25:18,319 --> 01:25:20,760
and and I really go back to the two things,

1729
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,520
which is a you think that a bunch of people

1730
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,000
being killed wasn't that big of a deal, but be

1731
01:25:26,119 --> 01:25:28,920
more importantly, you tried to murder someone.

1732
01:25:29,079 --> 01:25:35,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I learned what I already kind of knew that people,

1733
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:41,319
depending on their beliefs, will you know, become total monsters.

1734
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything's justified. Theers that disagree with them, Yeah, everything's

1735
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:52,520
justified if you think you're right. The anarchists where the

1736
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,520
ultimate and socialists took this up later, Communist in particular,

1737
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,000
but it's there, the ultimate ends justify the means. I

1738
01:25:58,039 --> 01:25:59,720
mean even Lenin was like, yeah, no, it would be

1739
01:26:00,159 --> 01:26:03,319
to we have to be monsters. Otherwise, how can we

1740
01:26:03,359 --> 01:26:05,439
not be monster? How can we how can we rid

1741
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:06,680
the world of monsters.

1742
01:26:06,279 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 1: Without being monsters? Doesn't make any sense?

1743
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 2: No, but I do think New King Japan was right,

1744
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,239
So don't listen to me.

1745
01:26:17,039 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 1: Honestly, I learned.

1746
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 3: Being a victim your whole life. Your life kind of sucks, dude.

1747
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 2: She had a shitty childhood, like, no doubt.

1748
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:31,239
Speaker 3: Just like hating everything and everyone doesn't turn out the best.

1749
01:26:31,399 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: No, raise your kids, right, yeah, good kids. Don't think

1750
01:26:35,039 --> 01:26:38,199
the terrorist bombings are sweet. No, or try to murder

1751
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:40,359
someone via prostitution.

1752
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,199
Speaker 1: I learned that this bitch wasn't even like worthy of

1753
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:47,560
being a prost.

1754
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 2: That was the funniest part of the whole thing is

1755
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,279
that the first John was like, let me buy you

1756
01:26:51,319 --> 01:26:53,359
a beer, babe, and then like sits her down, is

1757
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,760
like you ain't it. You can't do that. You are

1758
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:56,840
not about this life.

1759
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, yeah, to be fair, her life did suck.

1760
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:03,199
Her life must have been the worst, Like morale, like

1761
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,800
degrading things, horrible childhood.

1762
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,239
Speaker 1: It kind of just sounds like she cosplayed her entire life.

1763
01:27:08,319 --> 01:27:13,119
Speaker 2: She did absolutely, I mean she was down to speak

1764
01:27:13,279 --> 01:27:15,640
and then send other people to do her shit for.

1765
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,079
Speaker 1: But like when she got in the trenches and she

1766
01:27:19,239 --> 01:27:25,960
was really like in that life she never really did anything. No, no,

1767
01:27:26,359 --> 01:27:28,760
she kind of like flipped the script turned on it,

1768
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,600
I mean went to Russia. I was like, oh, no,

1769
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,359
this is this isn't it either?

1770
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what did you think anarchy was gonna be?

1771
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,079
Speaker 1: Like fucking literally, what did you think anarchy was?

1772
01:27:38,279 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 3: Sunshine?

1773
01:27:39,359 --> 01:27:41,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are.

1774
01:27:41,159 --> 01:27:44,119
Speaker 2: Actually I think maybe she was disturbed because she was

1775
01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:45,640
actually looking at what anarchy is.

1776
01:27:47,359 --> 01:27:53,119
Speaker 1: Who's today's hitler? Mm hmm. I want to blame her dad,

1777
01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:55,720
but I'm gonna just you know, the buck stops at her.

1778
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,079
You gotta eventually kind of take respondibility for the person

1779
01:28:01,119 --> 01:28:01,520
you become.

1780
01:28:02,079 --> 01:28:06,079
Speaker 2: Yep, I agree with that, because again, you tried to

1781
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:10,039
murder someone, a guy who you just politically didn't agree.

1782
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: With, and it's certainly not this handsome fellow.

1783
01:28:12,199 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 2: No, that guy's this guy rules. That guy's today's Churchill.

1784
01:28:19,319 --> 01:28:23,199
Speaker 3: I'd say it's her mom for her husband dying at

1785
01:28:23,239 --> 01:28:26,760
seventeen and never getting over it. Yeah, just checking out,

1786
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,079
fucking grow up, being like a shitty mob.

1787
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: You know who actually should take responsibility is her first

1788
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,079
husband whose dick didn't work, because if he was just

1789
01:28:36,199 --> 01:28:37,479
laying it down, Yep.

1790
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:38,199
Speaker 2: This doesn't happen.

1791
01:28:38,399 --> 01:28:40,399
Speaker 1: She doesn't get involved in this life. Nope, that's what

1792
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:41,079
I was gonna say.

1793
01:28:41,079 --> 01:28:43,119
Speaker 2: Today's hyler is her first husband's dick.

1794
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 1: She becomes probably like a trad wife if you lay

1795
01:28:49,119 --> 01:28:50,119
whips the whole script.

1796
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: Dude, there's one tried and true road to tradwife, and

1797
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,359
it's just laying pipe.

1798
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1799
01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: I think that that guy's dick works.

1800
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: Everything's different.

1801
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that random guy doesn't Frick. He doesn't get killed

1802
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:10,880
or no, he survived it. Yeah, he just unnecessarily got shot.

1803
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,399
Speaker 2: Instead of my heroes of today's episode or the workers

1804
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:14,960
who the guy turned back to and was like, I

1805
01:29:15,039 --> 01:29:15,319
did it.

1806
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,319
Speaker 1: They just beat the fuck out of him and he

1807
01:29:18,359 --> 01:29:24,079
didn't do it. He didn't do it. Frick survived. He's like, right, guys,

1808
01:29:24,119 --> 01:29:26,479
are you happy? I hope Frick got like a lick

1809
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,159
on this, did same? I hope?

1810
01:29:29,159 --> 01:29:33,039
Speaker 2: Like he's like, like the guys, so they beat Berkman unconscious.

1811
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: Like he pulls the knife out of his fucking leg

1812
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,199
and just sticks it dabs and.

1813
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,279
Speaker 2: Oh that's why that is actually that and her like

1814
01:29:40,319 --> 01:29:43,039
the first John being like, baby, you can't do this

1815
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,039
are my two heroes of the episode. The workers and

1816
01:29:46,079 --> 01:29:47,600
the guy who's like, you ain't.

1817
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,399
Speaker 1: You ain't cut for this, You ain't cut for this

1818
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:49,960
at all.

1819
01:29:50,399 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 2: All right, I saw you reading a book and that's

1820
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,439
not what you do on a street corner. But that's

1821
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,039
all I got for this week. I hope you enjoyed

1822
01:29:59,079 --> 01:30:03,640
our our episode. Scott, thanks thanks, thank you guys for

1823
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,119
Dan Rochester and Scott Lopez.

1824
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm Ron Fox. You discussawicer