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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, this is left Drive. Yes, yes, I know

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<v Speaker 2>aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome back to Sasquatch Hootsy. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for being with us for the show. It

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<v Speaker 1>is Sunday. I hope you're having a fantastic weekend. We

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<v Speaker 1>have an amazing show lined up for you. But as always,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start by inviting you. If you've had

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<v Speaker 1>an encounter and you'd like to be on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>shoot me an email. You can get me at Brian

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<v Speaker 1>at Paranormal Worldproductions dot com. Can head over to the website,

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<v Speaker 1>check out the blog, become a member there and help

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<v Speaker 1>support the show. I got to sit down several months

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<v Speaker 1>ago as a guest over with Josh on the Mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>Unknown podcast. Josh is a former law enforcement officer as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had quite the conversation about Bigfoot in all

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<v Speaker 1>things cryptids. It was a fantastic conversation. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>guys will probably hear some things that you've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>from me before. I hope you enjoy this as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I enjoyed being a guest over there with Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>He does a phenomenal job. So you guys can check

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<v Speaker 1>out Mysteries Unknown on YouTube and show them some love

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<v Speaker 1>over there, give them a like a subscribe. They would

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that very much. But enough of that. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are ready to get into it, so all

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<v Speaker 1>that's left for you to do is sit back, relax,

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Bron Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, I'm glad to be here. I appreciate the invite.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super excited to have you here. You really don't

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<v Speaker 2>need any kind of announcement because anybody that's heard a

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<v Speaker 2>big put no, so you are. So I'm We're really

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<v Speaker 2>excited to have you on, and I'm super excited that

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<v Speaker 2>my co host Daniel got you to come on. I

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<v Speaker 2>know we're gonna get it into a lot of stuff tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought it might be cool to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some of the scariest encounters that you have heard

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<v Speaker 2>on your show. Let's just jump right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many and I'm almost five hundred episodes. I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking today putting together some stuff we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be over in the UK doing a speaking gig here

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<v Speaker 1>in July. So I'm working ahead and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty two episodes away from five hundred episodes on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I want to do something special for the

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred episode. Obviously, that said, there's been so many

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<v Speaker 1>Scary is such a subjective thing for people. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>scary is maybe different than you're scary. I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the closer encounters I think are to me

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<v Speaker 1>some of the scary. Because I've always said I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen one of these things. I've had some experiences, certainly

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<v Speaker 1>as recently as just a couple of days ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>we could certainly get into that if you want to,

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<v Speaker 1>but having a close up encounter with one of these

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<v Speaker 1>things that comes to mind as the scariest to me.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them was Jeff from Pine Island Research. He

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<v Speaker 1>has his own show on YouTube. We've co hosted together

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times and done some things over on

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<v Speaker 1>the un Told Radio Network with Doug Hycheck and those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff had a really scary encounter that I would consider

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<v Speaker 1>to be scary when he was a kid. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a teenager. He's out on a boat with

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was his cousin, a couple of friends

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. They stop at this island and they get

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<v Speaker 1>off to go to the bathroom. He goes up this

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<v Speaker 1>trail and he gets to this area where there's really

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere for him to go. It's either left or right

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<v Speaker 1>and embankment, and straight ahead of him is the sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 1>Steps out of nowhere. This thing is holding I think

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff described it as maybe a six or eight inch round,

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<v Speaker 1>not huge. It was like a log. This thing is

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<v Speaker 1>holding in its and it chunks it at Jeff and

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<v Speaker 1>knocks him off of his feet. It's the only time

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever documented, frankly, that I've ever heard of, really

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<v Speaker 1>of a physical encounter with a sasquatch, other than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some of the older stories where people have been picked

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<v Speaker 1>up and taken away and those kind of things. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was scary to me because I'm thinking, this thing

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<v Speaker 1>chunked a log and knocks you off of your feet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty scary. Jeff was like, I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>thing did it on purpose. I think it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise thing, because I think in his mind he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably surprised this thing as much as it surprised me.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't expecting me to be there, so it chunked

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<v Speaker 1>this log at him and knocked him off of his feet.

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<v Speaker 1>That was pretty scary to me. There's been others in

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<v Speaker 1>the past where these things are looking in the windows

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<v Speaker 1>of houses. That's a pretty scary thing to me. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an eerie kind of thing. It could just be a curiosity,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's part of me that believes that. I certainly

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe every bigfoot is some nefarious monster that's out

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<v Speaker 1>for blood and guts, but I do think these are animals, right.

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<v Speaker 1>There's animalistic behavior there, just looking in kids windows and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. I've documented a couple of encounters where

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<v Speaker 1>it's happened earlier on in life. I think there was

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<v Speaker 1>one woman I interviewed that she was probably six or

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<v Speaker 1>seven years old, and this thing was constantly looking in

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<v Speaker 1>her window. That was a really scary thing to me

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<v Speaker 1>because I automatically got this feeling, And of course it's subjective.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea if this is real or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But my feeling about her story and she felt the

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<v Speaker 1>same way, was it was a female. She thought this

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<v Speaker 1>thing was a female that was possibly looking to take

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<v Speaker 1>her into the woods as its own or whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>needs may be. So that's a pretty scary thing. There's

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<v Speaker 1>been other situations. I had a hunter. This was either

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this year or late last year. I interviewed a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was out moose or elk hunting with his

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<v Speaker 1>dad out in the Pacific Northwest area. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>really long drawn out story. The gest of it is

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<v Speaker 1>he feels like he was being lured in by wood knocks.

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<v Speaker 1>He's out with his dad. His dad's in a different area.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes to his area and he's hunting, and here's

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<v Speaker 1>the strange wood knocks and he never heard anything like

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<v Speaker 1>that before in the woods. So he's heading towards the

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<v Speaker 1>area where he's here in this knock, and every time

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<v Speaker 1>he would stop to listen, he would get more knocks

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<v Speaker 1>and it would make him go forward. He would go

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<v Speaker 1>towards the knox, and when he stopped, it would knock again.

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<v Speaker 1>This went on. I mean, his entire episode is probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the longest episodes of Sasquatch Out to See.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little over an hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because he was very detailed with everything that

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<v Speaker 1>went on during his experience. It just culminated into Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>he got to a point where he was twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five feet away from this row of trees, and this

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<v Speaker 1>huge sasquatch steps out in front of him. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>a high powered rifle. He's moose elk hunting right. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember which it was, but he had a really

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<v Speaker 1>high powered rifle. He said, Brian, this thing was not

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<v Speaker 1>big enough for me to take this thing down. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I might as well have been carrying a

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<v Speaker 1>sling shot. Basically, he couldn't shoot. He backed out and

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<v Speaker 1>got away from this thing. The couple of things that

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<v Speaker 1>really stuck out to me that were really profound. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not as scary as they were profound for me. He

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<v Speaker 1>really broke down because this was like day one of

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<v Speaker 1>a seven or eight day hunting trip, and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell his dad what happened. They'd get up to go hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>Every morning after that he would go sit in the

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<v Speaker 1>truck and his dad would go hunting. Because he was

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<v Speaker 1>scared to go back into the woods. That really tore

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<v Speaker 1>him up for a lot of years. He ended up drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me. He said, I tried to buried it

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom of a bottle. For years because it

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<v Speaker 1>really tore me up because I was putting my dad

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation that I was afraid to tell him

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<v Speaker 1>what I had seen for whatever reason ridicule. He wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe me. But it really aided him that he was

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<v Speaker 1>sending his dad out potentially to meet the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>that he had come face to face with that he

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<v Speaker 1>felt was luring him in. And that's the thing he

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<v Speaker 1>kept going back to. He said, I really got the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that this thing was luring me in to do

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<v Speaker 1>something nefarious to me, and ultimately it didn't. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it stepped out. So all that I had a

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<v Speaker 1>rifle felt like it's just not worth it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a human He wasn't sure. Obviously, again it's all subjective.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way of really knowing. But that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the scarier experiences for me because I thought, how

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<v Speaker 1>many times did that happen? How many hunters go missing

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<v Speaker 1>while they're hunting, they're never seen again, or they end

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<v Speaker 1>up dead under mysterious circumstances. So my mind started going

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<v Speaker 1>in all these different directions. It was a very popular episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of emails who said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's full of shit, there's no way of knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that Bigfoot don't do that. Of course, you get those

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<v Speaker 1>people that come out that know everything about bigfoot. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do that. They would never lure a hunter

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<v Speaker 1>in with wood knocks because they don't do that. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a lot that went into that. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really scary experience for me because a

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<v Speaker 1>he felt like he was being lured in be just

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<v Speaker 1>the way it affected his life after that. He had

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<v Speaker 1>told the story one other time to another podcaster, but

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<v Speaker 1>he had only told parts of the story. He had

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<v Speaker 1>never told everything from beginning to end. So he reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to me and he said, look, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you my story. I want to tell it one time.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the person I'm going to tell it to, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm done. I don't want anything to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the big Foot. I don't go out in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>looking for these things. I don't even want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it anymore. That really stuck out to me because

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<v Speaker 1>you and I were talking about this before we started recording.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times do people have experiences that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>share they think they're going to be ridiculed. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>tell their own friends and family their own wives or

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who was looking for any kind of notoriety.

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak. Doug was looking for people that he

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot every week, and that's what Doug was leaning towards.

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<v Speaker 1>I reached out to him, and he was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>of credibility to somebody's story, because there's plenty of people

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<v Speaker 1>the imagination. I'm certainly not casting stones here, but when

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<v Speaker 1>at least of wanting to share the story for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes down to people who just don't

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<v Speaker 1>scariest and probably most credible experiences that I've documented, And

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<v Speaker 1>of course there's others that come to mind. Abe Canyon

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty scary event that happened to those miners

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<v Speaker 1>back in nineteen twenty four. But that's way back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, obviously, And Albert Osman, what is more scary

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<v Speaker 1>than being scooped up and taken into the woods for

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<v Speaker 1>three or four days by a sasquatch that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to escape from. That's pretty scary. And there are the

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<v Speaker 1>people who have claimed to have had similar experiences. Scary

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<v Speaker 1>is the subjective thing. But those are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that automatically sticks out to me over the course

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<v Speaker 2>First off, congratulations on getting through that many, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think people understand the amount of work that it

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<v Speaker 2>takes to sit and do this kind of stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of work, it's fun, and I don't take

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in this chair talking to people by lightly because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big deal. But man, that's a really big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So congratulations on that. I'm like you when I get

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<v Speaker 2>those emails that they're like, hey, I had this happen

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<v Speaker 2>to me, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking for answers.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I want to share this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little worried to share this. Those are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that really piqued my interest because I'm like, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you telling me? You know, if you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>share it, what are you gaining from this? Those are

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<v Speaker 2>all very scary encounters. I think we could sit and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that all night, because these are such a

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<v Speaker 2>strange world. I had a gentleman come on from North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>He had this encounter. He just couldn't figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>to do with it. He was a very prominent banker

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<v Speaker 2>in his town. He's listening. I have a lot to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to share my story, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>would like to talk to somebody. If he ended up

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<v Speaker 2>coming on the show and talking about it and got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of answers in it helped him. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of credibility to that, and not that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not there when people see these things, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>here to prove or disprove anything. But man, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>so many weird things out there. How has on your

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<v Speaker 2>end of this stuff? Sit and listen to these encounters?

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<v Speaker 2>How's that changed your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you go into the woods?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I think twice before going out. I will not go

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<v Speaker 2>into the deep woods anymore. But man, how's that changed?

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<v Speaker 2>You here in these encounters.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it has changed me in so many great ways.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a full time job for me. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing I have ever done in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've loved some of my past jobs, but this has

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<v Speaker 1>been certainly the best decision I've ever made to do

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<v Speaker 1>this full time. I've been doing it full time since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, around February March of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>so that has certainly changed my life in great ways.

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<v Speaker 1>But specifically talking to people, my own experiences that I've

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<v Speaker 1>had have changed the way that I interact with the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in the deep woods. I have no choice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally sitting in the woods now inside my house.

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<v Speaker 1>But it has changed the way that I used to

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<v Speaker 1>take night walks on occasion here on our property. We've

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<v Speaker 1>heard vocalizations and I've experienced things here that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that anymore. We've camped out and had some weird

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<v Speaker 1>experiences a couple of months ago here on the property

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<v Speaker 1>talking to people, and realize that there is the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>that something is out there that is much larger and

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<v Speaker 1>very dangerous. Honestly, I just be honest. I think these

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<v Speaker 1>things can be very dangerous. It does change you, and

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you think twice about just running off into

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<v Speaker 1>the woods again. Like I said, my own experiences here

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<v Speaker 1>in the vocalizations we've heard on the property. I found

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<v Speaker 1>a trackway three days ago on the property here, and

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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages. I haven't even talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it on my show. This is the second show that

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<v Speaker 1>I've guessed on in the last three days that I've

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<v Speaker 1>on my own show. But I found a trackway that's

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<v Speaker 1>got like fourteen tracks. As I said here, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>sixty yards from my house. It's weird when you find that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a very skeptical person. Anybody who listens to my

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<v Speaker 1>am very skeptical of my own experiences and everybody else is.

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<v Speaker 1>To be quite honest, I find find something that looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a trackway, go oh, that's cool. It kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, oh shit, that is a footprint. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>more I get into it and the more I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, I'm saying, there has got to be something

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<v Speaker 1>to this. I actually went out today and did some

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<v Speaker 1>three D scans. We have a Facebook group big Foot

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<v Speaker 1>Encounters and Field Research. On Facebook. When I post something,

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<v Speaker 1>people always have suggestions, and somebody suggested, Hey, use this app.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a LDAR three D scan thing. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>footprints that I found were in leaf litter, I cast

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of them. I only had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>the fourteen I cast those and it turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be crap, which most of the cast do quite honestly

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<v Speaker 1>from my experience. I went out and did some scanning

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<v Speaker 1>of that today. I posted a little bit of that online.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just changes you. Because I'm a very Okham's

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<v Speaker 1>Razor kind of guy. I go to whatever the most

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<v Speaker 1>likely explanation is the explanation for what I experience. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you see something like that that I know I

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<v Speaker 1>did do, I know my better half didn't do. I

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<v Speaker 1>know the dogs didn't do it. It's not a bear.

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<v Speaker 1>There's five feet in most cases between these steps of

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<v Speaker 1>these prints that looked like sixteen inch foot prints. What

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<v Speaker 1>else could that be? You get to this point where

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I was remastering one of

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<v Speaker 1>my earlier episodes today that I'm going to put out

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday as we record this. It was episode sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>or seventeen on the show. I'm trying to go back

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<v Speaker 1>about audio, and I make things sound a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>better now that I did back in the first twenty

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<v Speaker 1>or thirty episodes. That's one of the things that Guy

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<v Speaker 1>talked about was how skeptical he was before he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going on a BFRO investigation and having a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of experience. He didn't see Bigfoot. He saw some eyeshine

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<v Speaker 1>that he thinks might be attributable to Bigfoot, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was very skeptical. He's a scientific guy. I couldn't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what his profession was, but he did a lot with

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<v Speaker 1>snakes and amphibians. He would go out and look for

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<v Speaker 1>endangered snake species.

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<v Speaker 4>He was.

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<v Speaker 1>And everything that happened to him. He's constantly trying to science.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy it right, He's in the woods, going what could

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<v Speaker 1>that be? Eventually he got to the point where I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm hear in a bigfoot, these vocalizations, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bigfoot. I do that to myself often.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people do that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a healthy way to look at this. But

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<v Speaker 1>you get to a point where at least I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>least to that point now, and people who listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the show they get tired. I get emails about me saying,

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<v Speaker 1>five days out of seven, I think Bigfoot's real, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other two I'm not so sure. But that's really

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. I'm starting to move closer to there's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be something out there. I haven't seen one again.

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<v Speaker 1>Until I do, I can't be one hundred percent all in.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I find what looks like a trackway with

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<v Speaker 1>five foot strides between what looks like a left foot

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<v Speaker 1>and a right foot, I'm casting something that looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's got toes, And I do a three D scan

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like it has toes. What else could it be?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a person.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you supposed to do with that? That's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing I don't know about you. A lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>walk away with more questions than answers. And we're both

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<v Speaker 2>former law enforcement, and I think that maybe has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to do with it. I know that when we

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<v Speaker 2>got to a scene, we're always there after the crime happened.

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<v Speaker 2>We're looking for trace evidence, we're looking for what it

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<v Speaker 2>could be, and it's always the most probable thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably what happened. This has got to be what it

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<v Speaker 2>is because you have to check that box. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to write the report, you got to put it in

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<v Speaker 2>the reports. Now the report, it didn't happen. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we think that way a lot of law enforcement do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're prior law enforcement. I don't know that you ever

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of that, but I can understand why you

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way. It's a wild world, and man, some

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<v Speaker 2>of these encounters you hear and you walk away from

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<v Speaker 2>a man that is so crazy. Where do I put that?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I supposed to do with that? And there's

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<v Speaker 2>just there's no answers. But it sounds like you definitely

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<v Speaker 2>have some activity on your property. And when you start

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<v Speaker 2>seeing prints and vocalizations, it starts to make you think, Okay,

420
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<v Speaker 2>this has got to be more than just an ordinary animal.

421
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<v Speaker 2>If you don't mind, I know you've not really shared it,

422
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<v Speaker 2>or maybe you have, but men I'd love to hear

423
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<v Speaker 2>about some of the vocalizations and different things that that

424
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<v Speaker 2>have had happened to you, either under property or just

425
00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:02.680
<v Speaker 2>around the area. I'd love to hear.

426
00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:05.640
<v Speaker 1>That we bought this property. I guess it was towards

427
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<v Speaker 1>the end of twenty seventeen. We were living in Georgia

428
00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:10.640
<v Speaker 1>at the time. We had just left the law enforcement

429
00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:13.799
<v Speaker 1>field behind in twenty sixteen, and we were looking for

430
00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:16.400
<v Speaker 1>rural property. I wanted to live on at least twenty

431
00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.920
<v Speaker 1>plus acres, as much as we could get, but at

432
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<v Speaker 1>least twenty acres. We wanted to be somewhere in the woods,

433
00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and frankly, I wanted to possibly have a situation where

434
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<v Speaker 1>there might be bigfoot there. I'm not gonna lie. I

435
00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:30.319
<v Speaker 1>was looking for that. So I looked in the areas

436
00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:34.599
<v Speaker 1>where there's nothing but property around us or other land.

437
00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be as isolated as possible, just have

438
00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the possibility of having some sort of activity. We looked

439
00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:44.799
<v Speaker 1>into that. When we bought the property. We weren't here

440
00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:46.599
<v Speaker 1>full time. We were going back and forth. We did

441
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of traveling, We did a lot of volunteering

442
00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:51.759
<v Speaker 1>or organic farms, and that's a whole another story in

443
00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and of itself. We ended up coming up here on

444
00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the weekends camping out. We lived actually off grid here

445
00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:00.480
<v Speaker 1>on the property in a shed we were going to

446
00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.400
<v Speaker 1>try to convert into a tiny house for about a

447
00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:04.480
<v Speaker 1>year and a half. I should probably write a book

448
00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:06.599
<v Speaker 1>that's a book in and of itself if you've ever

449
00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:08.920
<v Speaker 1>tried to live off grid without running water and nothing

450
00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.039
<v Speaker 1>but solar power, I highly suggest it because it was

451
00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:13.519
<v Speaker 1>one of the best years of my life, but it

452
00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:15.759
<v Speaker 1>was also one of the toughest years we've ever lived.

453
00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Year and a half or so. Surprisingly, during that time

454
00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't hearing anything. It wasn't until we actually got

455
00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.319
<v Speaker 1>the house we had a tiny house built. We'd live

456
00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:25.920
<v Speaker 1>in a four hundred square foot tiny house. It's almost

457
00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:28.400
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of our forty acres. It's surrounded by

458
00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:30.839
<v Speaker 1>nothing but woods. We're way off the road. It was

459
00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.039
<v Speaker 1>one of the first winters we were here, going into

460
00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.440
<v Speaker 1>fall winter kind of situation. We had a hot tub

461
00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:38.880
<v Speaker 1>on the end of the deck out front of the house,

462
00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:42.319
<v Speaker 1>and we would be out sipping wine unwinding at ten eleven,

463
00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:44.480
<v Speaker 1>twelve o'clock at night. I was still working full time

464
00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:47.880
<v Speaker 1>off property doing my job. I was running a super

465
00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:52.000
<v Speaker 1>hub for a huge audio parts store. Hated my job.

466
00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I was really stressed out. I was having the unwined

467
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<v Speaker 1>time in the hot tub. The first thing we heard

468
00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:02.559
<v Speaker 1>was what sounded like the Ohio Howell vocalization, but it

469
00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:05.599
<v Speaker 1>was probably a mile and a half. There's a huge

470
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<v Speaker 1>ridge behind us that goes up to the top of

471
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<v Speaker 1>our property, and on the other side of that, there's

472
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<v Speaker 1>probably another one hundred and fifty two hundred acres behind

473
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<v Speaker 1>us of nothing. It was coming from that direction. I

474
00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:16.519
<v Speaker 1>knew what was back there. Would hiked back there. I

475
00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.039
<v Speaker 1>knew it was nothing but woods. You chalk it up.

476
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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, it's probably a coyote. Maybe it's some

477
00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of dog howling or something. Sip your wine and

478
00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:27.799
<v Speaker 1>you go on about your day. That happened probably over

479
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:31.119
<v Speaker 1>the course of that season, that winter fall season of

480
00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:33.079
<v Speaker 1>that year, probably six times. It would just be a

481
00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.079
<v Speaker 1>fleeting thing, it's just in the distance. One time, then

482
00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.319
<v Speaker 1>you'd be done. That following I guess it was March

483
00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:43.079
<v Speaker 1>April lish of twenty twenty one. I had done a

484
00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>couple of interviews that day. I was doing some show

485
00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:49.400
<v Speaker 1>notes and finishing up. We have an upstairs loft. It's

486
00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:52.279
<v Speaker 1>almost the full size of the house itself that we

487
00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.160
<v Speaker 1>sleep in, huge space upstairs, surrounded by nothing but windows,

488
00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:57.720
<v Speaker 1>and we had the windows up it because it was

489
00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:03.400
<v Speaker 1>like fifty degrees outside. We hear the same Ohio Howell

490
00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:07.759
<v Speaker 1>type vocalization, but this time it's thirty to forty yards

491
00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:10.160
<v Speaker 1>away from the house in the woods behind us, from

492
00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the opposite direction where we normally hear it on this ridge.

493
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:14.759
<v Speaker 1>It's weird because it's one of those things when you

494
00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.400
<v Speaker 1>hear something like that, it's six eight seconds long, you

495
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.279
<v Speaker 1>feel it as much as you hear it. It's so

496
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:24.079
<v Speaker 1>difficult to explain because I've had so many people come

497
00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:26.440
<v Speaker 1>on the show and tell me about vocalizations, and they

498
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:28.279
<v Speaker 1>always say that, oh, I felt it in my bones,

499
00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:30.640
<v Speaker 1>or I felt it in my chest, or it felt

500
00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.839
<v Speaker 1>as loud as it sounded, those kind of things. But

501
00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what we experienced. Look over at my better

502
00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>half and I'm like, did you hear that?

503
00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:41.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

504
00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear that? What was that? That was weird?

505
00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:44.839
<v Speaker 1>What do you think it was? We're doing this back

506
00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:47.079
<v Speaker 1>and forth again, you get to the point where it

507
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:49.799
<v Speaker 1>was one of two things. It was either a person

508
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:54.200
<v Speaker 1>or it was probably a sasquatch. Those are the only

509
00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:56.279
<v Speaker 1>two things that could have made that sound. There's nothing

510
00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>else in nature that I've heard. There's nothing else in

511
00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:01.519
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina that sounds like that. It wasn't a coyote,

512
00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a wolf, it wasn't a cat, it wasn't

513
00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.079
<v Speaker 1>a raccoon, it wasn't a squirrel. You go down this

514
00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>litany of things that it could be, and you check

515
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>all those boxes and go I'll tell you, I think

516
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.039
<v Speaker 1>you're in maybe a rural area as well. People who

517
00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>don't live in rural areas may not understand this. You

518
00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>don't come on other people's property here unless you're enjouted exactly.

519
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.599
<v Speaker 1>We have a purple paint law here in North Carolina.

520
00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:27.319
<v Speaker 1>We have purple paint on all the trees that border

521
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the road where we live on. People just know we

522
00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>probably should keep driving if we're not invited there. That's

523
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:37.519
<v Speaker 1>just the reality of it. I'm not a proponent of violence.

524
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you should shoot anybody. However, if somebody

525
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.279
<v Speaker 1>were on our property at that time of night, particularly,

526
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.079
<v Speaker 1>it's probably going to end badly. People ask me, what

527
00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:49.359
<v Speaker 1>did you go out and check? No, I didn't. It

528
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:51.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't important enough for me to figure out at that point,

529
00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:54.519
<v Speaker 1>because had you heard the same thing I did. I

530
00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:56.680
<v Speaker 1>think very few people. I know a few people who

531
00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>probably ran right towards it. I'm not twenty years old anymore.

532
00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:02.559
<v Speaker 1>I used to run towards gunfire a lot in the

533
00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:05.319
<v Speaker 1>police department. I don't do that anymore. I'm a little

534
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>smarter than that.

535
00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:08.160
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it takes a while to grow up. I'm

536
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 2>like you, man, I used to run to the fire.

537
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm going to sit here and think about it

538
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.079
<v Speaker 2>and let somebody younger than me go find out what

539
00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>that is, because I'm good with just here to I

540
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>hear a lot of people that come on the show

541
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and they talk about that. The vocalizations almost every one

542
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.839
<v Speaker 2>of them are like it rattled my chest. I felt

543
00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:27.200
<v Speaker 2>it to my core, but shook my bones, that type

544
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>of thing. And I'm like you, man, I still a

545
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>lot time in the woods. I've never heard another animal

546
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>that can do that, not a person, not anything being

547
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.839
<v Speaker 2>up there in your house. I wouldn't have left either,

548
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I'd just sit right there, man, So I don't blame

549
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:40.480
<v Speaker 2>you for that at all.

550
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've heard other things that was pretty much the

551
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>pentacle of the vocalizations. But then I guess the next

552
00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>weird thing would be what I've called a gifting situation,

553
00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:51.759
<v Speaker 1>where it's a really long story, but I'll give you

554
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the very short version. I still walk the dogs on

555
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.039
<v Speaker 1>this path. It's a couple of acres that we walk

556
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>every morning. We've literally cut paths so we can walk

557
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the dogs around this beautiful part of our property. There's

558
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.599
<v Speaker 1>this old cedar stump that's probably twelve fourteen inches around.

559
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>It's on the right hand side of the path that

560
00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 1>we walk past every day. I'm walking past that one

561
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.079
<v Speaker 1>morning with the dogs, which I do at least twice

562
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a day. We walk past the stump and something catches

563
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 1>my eye. It's a white, bleached white turtle shell, a

564
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:26.039
<v Speaker 1>little box turtle maybe five inches around. It is stuck

565
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>into the side of the stump. I'm like, that is

566
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>so weird. So I walk over, I look at it.

567
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I take the dogs back, and I end up getting

568
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.119
<v Speaker 1>my phone and I come back and I'm looking at it,

569
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>thinking how did this get here? It's completely bleached twide

570
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:43.279
<v Speaker 1>It's clearly been out in the sun for months, maybe

571
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 1>even a year at this point. It wasn't there the

572
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>day before. It's stuck into the side. It's not just

573
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>laying on its back. It's not put on top, it's

574
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.279
<v Speaker 1>stuck into the side of the stump. It was the

575
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 1>weirdest thing. So I start doing some research. I start googling.

576
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking, and I start finding people are posting about

577
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>finding these turtle shells and they believe that it's got

578
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.680
<v Speaker 1>something to do with Bigfoot activity. They're finding them with

579
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 1>rocks in them or leaves in them, and they feel

580
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>like they're being left. Sometimes they are taking things that

581
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.759
<v Speaker 1>people are leaving and they're leaving these in the place

582
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>of apples and peanut butter or whatever. I did some videos,

583
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 1>and of course I am the Bigfoot podcast guy. I

584
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 1>had a very difficult time wrestling with putting this stuff

585
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 1>out there because I'm thinking people are going to think

586
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm either batshit crazy or they're going to think I'm

587
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>completely making this stuff up just to boost up the show,

588
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like somehow that's going to help my ratings. More people

589
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.279
<v Speaker 1>are going to listen to the show because I found

590
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>a turtleshell. Long story short, I couldn't figure that out.

591
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 1>I started putting stuff on the stump. I started trying

592
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 1>to gift. I've never been into the gifting thing. I

593
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Speaker 1>still don't necessarily believe that's a thing, but I had

594
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to try it because I thought maybe there is a possibility. Right,

595
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.079
<v Speaker 1>we don't eat a whole lot peanut butter, or didn't

596
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:03.759
<v Speaker 1>back then. We ate ground up sunflower seeds sun butter.

597
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I would take jars of that out. We've had some disappear.

598
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Something had to pick it up because this log was

599
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like hollowed out because it was really rotten. So I'd

600
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 1>stick it down in there really far, so something would

601
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>have to work to get it out. You just couldn't

602
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.519
<v Speaker 1>walk up and just pick it up. They would disappear.

603
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I put some trail cams up, never got pictures or

604
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>videos of anything but raccoons all around the stump. But

605
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I never got pictures or video of them actually messing

606
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 1>with anything that I left on the stump. That one on.

607
00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.759
<v Speaker 1>A couple of times, missing jars completely gone, never found them,

608
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>still haven't found them. Lids and all just gone. Full

609
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:42.319
<v Speaker 1>pound or so of sun butter just gone. So I

610
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>started thinking, Okay, I know people put apples out. We

611
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>had some apples in the house that were getting They

612
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 1>weren't completely jawn at this point, like mushy, but they

613
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>had some brown spots. I'm not a fan of eating

614
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:54.119
<v Speaker 1>an apple with a brown spot on it. I took

615
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 1>one of those apples out. I stuck it on a stick.

616
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I took it up to the stump. I stuck it

617
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the stump, and I left it there.

618
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Next day, still there, next day, still there, next day,

619
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>still there. Nothing touched it. I was pulling the SD

620
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 1>card out of the camera, a little cheap bro cam

621
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 1>that had gotten from Amazon. I pulled the card. Every night.

622
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I was seeing raccoons dancing around the stump this apple is.

623
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I saw as many as four or five

624
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 1>at one point, but they never touched it. They never

625
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>went near it. So I would pull this footage from

626
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 1>the night before. The apple is completely undisturbed. Right, I've

627
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>got footage of raccoons. It takes still photos and it

628
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>would take video, so take a still photo and then

629
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 1>it'd take ten seconds of video. And it just alternated.

630
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>So like the fourth night, I'd go out there. Of course, typical, right,

631
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I kept the SD card. I didn't put the SD

632
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 1>card back in the camera because it's been three days

633
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing's happened. The apple's not touched. Of course. The fourth day,

634
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I go out, I walk past and I see the

635
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>apple from a distance, but something look different. I walk over.

636
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.559
<v Speaker 1>I pick up the apple on the stick, same as

637
00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 1>it was. Maybe it was moved a little bit, but

638
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>it's still on the stick. I pick it up. It

639
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>looked like something had just taken a bite out of

640
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 1>the apple. And stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see.

641
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after these messages. I have pictures.

642
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I would gladly send you these pictures. I'm sure I

643
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 1>still have them on my phone. It looked like a

644
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>bite had been taken out of the side of this

645
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>moldy apple. It molded at this point. It was disgusting,

646
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.839
<v Speaker 1>but it looked like a human bite. It wasn't taken

647
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 1>off the stick, It wasn't laying on the ground. It

648
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:31.079
<v Speaker 1>was still in the same position, stuck on the stick

649
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the stump. It literally looked like

650
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody picked up It's almost like a candy apple on stick.

651
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Something bit it and stuck it back into the sum.

652
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:40.559
<v Speaker 1>So I bring the apple and the stick back and

653
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I took a couple of photos of it. I texted

654
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>them to Wanne, my co host on that Bigfoot podcast.

655
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell the many contexts. He didn't know anything

656
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that was going on. I just said, take a look

657
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>at these photos and tell me what you think about this.

658
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:55.359
<v Speaker 1>He immediately texted back and said, it looks like you

659
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>took a nasty bite out of a horrible apple. That's disgusting.

660
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Why would you do? Then I told him the story. He's,

661
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, dude, that's you're joking, right. I was like, no,

662
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm dead serious. Like, I put the apple out there,

663
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>this is what I found. I sent it to Doug

664
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Hichik and he was like, dude, that looks like a

665
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch bit your apple.

666
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

667
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>It was either a person went hundreds and hundreds of

668
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 1>yards into my property, probably at this point the three

669
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>or four acres back into my property from the nearest road,

670
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>found the apple on the stick and decided to take

671
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a bite out of it and stick it back down there.

672
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? I don't know what makes sense

673
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>at this point.

674
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes no sense, man.

675
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>That happened. One of the things people asked me before,

676
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I have you ever heard woodknocks? Never had heard wood

677
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:43.799
<v Speaker 1>knocks until I think it was right before or right

678
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:47.799
<v Speaker 1>after I came back from Radium on the expedition with Todd.

679
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I went out to we pee off the porch. Here

680
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 1>there's nobody around. I went out till three o'clock in

681
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>the morning to take a whiz off the porch. I

682
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>hear four or five power knocks. That's the only way

683
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I can describe the quintessential stereotypical power knock. It's like,

684
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>oh wow, we live in a rural area, right, we

685
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.519
<v Speaker 1>live in a rural small town. We're ten minutes outside

686
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 1>of town, but you feel like you're one hundred and

687
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 1>fifty miles away when you're out here in the woods.

688
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 1>It's a small town. Like they roll up the sidewalks

689
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>at policed in the City of Atlanta, like three o'clock

690
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 1>in the morning and Buckhead it's banging, dude, there's everybody

691
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 1>on the street. It's not the same thing here. People

692
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 1>aren't out at three o'clock in the morning, and they're

693
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>certainly not banging on something that sounds like wood on wood.

694
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 1>It was back again up over this ridge area where

695
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>those vocalizations we had heard the years prior. In the

696
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>distance I did hear that it was weird. We've had

697
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.359
<v Speaker 1>other weird things with lights going here. We were talking

698
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to friends about this recently. I'm not saying that this

699
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.559
<v Speaker 1>is any way connected to Bigfoot. I'm just putting all

700
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the weirdness on the property out there. We've woken up

701
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 1>at least three or four times since we've been here

702
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>full time to the woods around the house. We're talking

703
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>three four o'clock in the morning, we'll wake up. This

704
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.839
<v Speaker 1>super bright spotlight is being shown on top of the house.

705
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 1>The entire house inside is lit up. The light is

706
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 1>what wakes us up. We've experienced this, like I said,

707
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 1>two or three times, I don't know what to make

708
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of it, man, and it just fades away. It's gone.

709
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Some weird stuff going on, some weird stuff. Then. I've

710
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>cast a number of footprints on the property. The first

711
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>one that I found that wasn't doing anything Bigfoot related.

712
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>We were taking a break down and I wanted to

713
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>just hike an area that we've never been because forty acres,

714
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 1>it's not a ton of property. It sounds probably like

715
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>more than it is, but there are places that we

716
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.039
<v Speaker 1>still haven't hiked. So we try to hike a different

717
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>area each time to see a different part of the property.

718
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>We went to the farthest end that butts up to

719
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>another neighbor's I think they have sixteen acres on the

720
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>other side of us. We went on that side. I

721
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even going to bring my phone because I was

722
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 1>just unplugging it, but I decided to take my phone

723
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 1>at the last minute. We're probably ten fifteen minutes into

724
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 1>the hike. It takes about forty five minutes to hike

725
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to the back of our property. I'm going along and

726
00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I cross over this little area. It's like a creek

727
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.759
<v Speaker 1>and they're standing water. There's probably three days before that.

728
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>We had this little break this day of rain, and

729
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 1>then we had another couple of days of rain coming in.

730
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>So we had this little window to hike and I

731
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>look down and I see what looks like a footprint.

732
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, oh, that's cool, man, Like, that's paradoia. Man,

733
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 1>it's paradoia footprint in the mud in this water. It's cool.

734
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take a picture of that. So I

735
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>get my phone out and I'm thinking, Okay, I'm just

736
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>taking a picture of some paradoil. I'm gonna post this later.

737
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>And as they get closer to take a better picture.

738
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, damn, it looks like toes. Oh there's one, two, three, four, five,

739
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that looks like a foot. And then

740
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I see a heel and it looks like it's slid

741
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, oh my god, this can't be happening.

742
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And I still convinced myself that it was just paradilia.

743
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, this is still cool. I'm going to take

744
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:44.639
<v Speaker 1>a few pictures, so I took three or four pictures

745
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 1>of it. I can gladly send you those as well.

746
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>We go on up on our hike and then I

747
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>start finding these weird I don't know what to call

748
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:56.519
<v Speaker 1>them other than stick structures like these weird bent woven

749
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>things that almost looked like possible nests that were the

750
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>huge things. I'm thinking, that's weird. We find some what

751
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>looked like weird tree breaks and stuff. I took a

752
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>bunch of pictures of this stuff, and full crumb things

753
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.400
<v Speaker 1>like these things are bent over and then there's other

754
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 1>sticks balanced on top of them, like a full crumb thing,

755
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.039
<v Speaker 1>almost like a seesaw kind of thing. Weird. Then we

756
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 1>get to the back of the property and this is

757
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 1>actually in the book. I put most of these pictures

758
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about are in the book. This picture of

759
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:30.199
<v Speaker 1>there's probably a four foot rock stack at the very

760
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>back of our property. There's just rocks stacked on top

761
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>of other rocks. I'm thinking, okay, paraduley footprint. What looks

762
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.679
<v Speaker 1>like nests full crumbs. Then I got a rock stack.

763
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>We're hearing vocalization. There's just all the stuff adding up

764
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 1>that particular footprint. And now I've cast other footprints. I

765
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 1>didn't cast that one. I didn't have material. It was

766
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>in water. It was raining before it rained a couple

767
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>of days after. But fast forward. I did a speaking

768
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>gig out in Idaho last summer. I was out there

769
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>with Cliff Barrickman from Finding Bigfoot. Doctor Jeff Meldrim was there.

770
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 1>It was me, Michael Freeman. We went to dinner that night,

771
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Cliff and I and Michael and another guy named Brandon.

772
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>We all went out to have dreams after dinner, and

773
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 1>we're sitting around and if you're familiar with Cliff, he

774
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 1>knows a thing or two about footprints, right, He's probably

775
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>looked at as many as Jeff has at this point.

776
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 1>So I pulled out my phone. We were talking about

777
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 1>other stuff and I'm looking through pictures and cliffs, like

778
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>what is that? So I handed my phone. I'm like,

779
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>just look at these pictures. There's three pictures, and tell

780
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 1>me what you think of that. And he's like, oh, dude,

781
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a sasquatch footprint. Where'd you get that? Did you

782
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 1>cast that? So I tell him the story and I'm like, no,

783
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was paradolia, dude. He's no, clearly, like

784
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>he's zooming in and he's showing me toes and he

785
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 1>showing me what And I'm like, oh my god, but

786
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 1>I have cast a couple of footprints I cast this

787
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.760
<v Speaker 1>past summer that were in the same area that I

788
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 1>just told you about the trackway that I found recently.

789
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>There are probably sixty sixty five yards from the house.

790
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 1>They're probably some of the best tracks I've ever seen,

791
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>perfectly in this area. We'd cleared out this area where

792
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>we're going to put in a little like a little

793
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 1>six by three or six by four pind for our ducks.

794
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>We no longer have them. Coyotes and foxes took care

795
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 1>of them, unfortunately over the last year, but we were

796
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 1>going to make them this area I had dug it out.

797
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't take the time to go out and finish

798
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the project. We're going to put this big trough in there,

799
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 1>but the rain washed a bunch of silt dirt down

800
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>into this hole that we had just dug out. It

801
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>was like the perfect spot. I go out there and

802
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 1>we'd had this weird thing where we had a small chicken.

803
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>We still have a small chicken coop up there, and

804
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the bigger one is down a different area. But we'd

805
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 1>keep the babies up there until they were pullets and

806
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>then we'd put them in with the other chickens. Outside.

807
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 1>We had some food up there in a decent sized

808
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>metal pail. We'd had issues with something getting into it,

809
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>so we put up bunch of cord over it to

810
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>keep the lid on. But something was picking this up

811
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.679
<v Speaker 1>and moving it like twenty twenty five feet down beside

812
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.559
<v Speaker 1>the chicken coop, almost nightly for three or four nights.

813
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>It was just weird. Top was never taken off of it,

814
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>but it was just picked up and moved. I'm thinking

815
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it's weird. It could a raccoon do that? It was

816
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty heavy and probably had for ten pounds of food

817
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 1>in this thing. I looked out of the deck I

818
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>was going to let the dogs out, and I'm like, oh,

819
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 1>something's moved this again. It was probably another thirty feet away,

820
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 1>but this time the lid was off and the contents

821
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>were just poured onto the ground. So I'm like, damn,

822
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm don't have to go clean that up. So I

823
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 1>go up to that area and I find two prints

824
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of where we had dug this pond.

825
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like something stood there with about a four

826
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:31.079
<v Speaker 1>foot stride, because it was probably six feet long, walking

827
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 1>directly towards the coop where this thing was picked up

828
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 1>and moved. So I cast those and I didn't talk

829
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.159
<v Speaker 1>about them. I didn't put the pictures out. I ended

830
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>up putting them in the book. I talked about them

831
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>in one of the chapters of the book, and I

832
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 1>put the photos in the book because they turned out.

833
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I say it all the time, they're literally too good.

834
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 1>There's some of the best looking tracks that I have

835
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 1>ever seen, certainly that I've ever cast. I've cast some

836
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>others that were very questionable on the property cliffs. One

837
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of those people, I'll tell you he wrote the forward

838
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to my book, so he's become a pretty good friend,

839
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and he told me, dude, I don't give a shit

840
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 1>what it is. Just cast it. It's probably going to

841
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 1>turn out to look like crap ninety five percent of

842
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the time. But you got to cast everything because if

843
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>you are casting real prince, chances are they're going to

844
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.519
<v Speaker 1>look like crap because they're not made. Because anybody who

845
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>fakes something, they turn out too good. And that's why, honestly,

846
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't put out the last two that I cast

847
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:23.800
<v Speaker 1>well outside of the ones that I cast a couple

848
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 1>of days ago and they turned out to be crap.

849
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.159
<v Speaker 1>They're not great cast. But the ones that turned out

850
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.559
<v Speaker 1>to be so good, I was worried about putting them

851
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 1>out because I knew people were going to be like, oh,

852
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you clearly made those because they're too good. They look

853
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.519
<v Speaker 1>too good. I don't know. There's definitely something going on, man.

854
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:42.039
<v Speaker 1>I've never definitively said I've seen the Sasquatch because I haven't.

855
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I've had experiences in radium, which we can certainly get

856
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>into and talk about, but I've never definitively said any

857
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 1>of it sasquatch because I haven't seen what's done it.

858
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.079
<v Speaker 1>But I've experienced some things that really make me scratch

859
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>my head.

860
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>For sure, Man, you've got a little wild stuff going

861
00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:59.400
<v Speaker 2>on that property. I definitely think you've got to creature

862
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>on your property, for sure. I think there's too much trace,

863
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:04.199
<v Speaker 2>even itce for something to not be there. Man, you

864
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.599
<v Speaker 2>have all the telltale signs of your typical signs that

865
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.239
<v Speaker 2>people start encounter on properties and stuff.

866
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Man, I got so many.

867
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Questions about all that, and I don't even know where

868
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:12.559
<v Speaker 2>to go.

869
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:14.559
<v Speaker 1>That is some wild stuff.

870
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I would love to hear your opinion on this. And

871
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 2>having all these experiences and talking to all these people,

872
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I have this theory that you're almost marked if you

873
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 2>haven't encounter of one of these creatures, because the odds

874
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and chances of you seeing one again or having some

875
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of evidence, or having a run in with a

876
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 2>cryptid after you have one is pretty high. I don't

877
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:36.599
<v Speaker 2>know what your thoughts are with that, but I know

878
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>after talking to a lot of people, I think I'm

879
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>coming up on eighty something episode, so I've not near

880
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.599
<v Speaker 2>what you've done. But it seems like people that have

881
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.320
<v Speaker 2>seen these creatures or had run ins or had been

882
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 2>around all this evidence more than Michaly being going to

883
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 2>do it again. I don't know if you've talked to

884
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the gentleman from Almun Labs or not, if you had

885
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 2>him on your show. If not, you need to. I

886
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>can get you in contact with him. Wild encounter in

887
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Oregon that he had out there property, wrote a book

888
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>about it. Had a lot of little weird stuff start

889
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>popping up on a property. They casted some prints. They

890
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 2>brought these prints into the Garazi had built. Next thing,

891
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 2>there's gifting going on inside of a shop after a slot.

892
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 2>He can't figure out how this has happened, and gifting

893
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>all over the place. He starts seeing prints everywhere, sees

894
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Class A signings, as the government starts showing up one

895
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 2>of those property. You saw all this stuff in, Man,

896
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>it really makes you scratch your head and think, but

897
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>do you think that do you think what you've seen

898
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 2>one your odds have seen? When again, he pretty high.

899
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.039
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things I've struggled with this because

900
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>my skeptical brain kicks in. And I've said this so

901
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>many times. I've interviewed people that have went out in

902
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the woods for decades. I got to interview several people

903
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that have been in this. Ron Moorehead comes to mind

904
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>who's been out there for a ton of years and

905
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 1>he's never seen a Sasquatch. Peter Burn one of the

906
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>last four horsemen of Sasquatch, and I interviewed Peter a

907
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago before he passed away. I think

908
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I was the last person that interviewed him before he died.

909
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.320
<v Speaker 1>He never after fifty sixty years, he never even found

910
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 1>a print. I don't think and looking for these things.

911
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.039
<v Speaker 1>I struggle with that because I used to say this. Honestly,

912
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I've had to do some self evaluation over the years

913
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>because I used to be when I first got into this,

914
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.039
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, I'm very skeptical of this person because

915
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.599
<v Speaker 1>they've seen Bigfoot twice, and they've seen these orbs, and

916
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.320
<v Speaker 1>they've seen these weird lights, and then they've had UFO experiences,

917
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and I just don't know if that's possible. And then

918
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I had to think. I grew up in haunted houses.

919
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.079
<v Speaker 1>I had experiences what I believe to be ghost I've

920
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of UFO experience. It's probably a handful

921
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of the UFO experiences where I've actually seen these things.

922
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I had an experience I think was Bigfoot related where

923
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.199
<v Speaker 1>I was paced out of the woods by something when

924
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I was twelve. Now I've had these weird lights footprints

925
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.079
<v Speaker 1>on my properties. I am now that person, so I

926
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:48.679
<v Speaker 1>no longer really think that. I think what happens in

927
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of cases is I think you just have

928
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 1>to be open. I think what you put out into

929
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.079
<v Speaker 1>the universe, into the world, I think you receive back

930
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways, whether you're a kind person,

931
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're a horrible person. And I think it's the

932
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.320
<v Speaker 1>same thing with cryptids. I think it's the same thing

933
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.360
<v Speaker 1>with UFOs. I think if you're open to seeing things,

934
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and I say people all the time, I think I've

935
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>had the UFO experiences I've had because I look up

936
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 1>into the sky. How many people do that? How many

937
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 1>people go out at night? You don't see things if

938
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you're not looking right, You don't see things in the woods.

939
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>If you're not looking, you don't experience things in the woods,

940
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>if you're not in the woods. I don't necessarily think

941
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a marked thing. I don't think it's anything that.

942
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you're just open to those experiences. If you

943
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>have an experience that you can't explain and then you

944
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.519
<v Speaker 1>start looking into it, I think the more you look,

945
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the more you find. I do think there is some

946
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.320
<v Speaker 1>synchronicity to all this. I haven't been able to figure

947
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 1>out exactly what that is. I used to check those

948
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>boxes and say, Okay, you had weird lights and UFOs

949
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:44.760
<v Speaker 1>over here, but let's just talk about the bigfoot stuff,

950
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think they have anything to do with

951
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 1>each other. I don't necessarily believe that anymore. I think

952
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:54.199
<v Speaker 1>there is more connectivity than maybe I was giving credit

953
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 1>in the past. I think it just boils down to

954
00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're open to those kind of things, I think

955
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.079
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be more apt to experiences. It's almost

956
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>like if you go into a situation and you're more

957
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 1>open to receive love, you're probably going to receive more

958
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 1>love than people who aren't open to it. If you

959
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 1>go into a situation closed off, or you're pissed off,

960
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.079
<v Speaker 1>or you're just a horrible person, that's what you tend

961
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.320
<v Speaker 1>to attract in your life. I don't think cryptids or

962
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.039
<v Speaker 1>UFOs or these kind of experiences are any different really

963
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>than anything else in life.

964
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point, man, and that makes a lot

965
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>of sense. And I think that for me, especially talking

966
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 2>about this topic, almost every day and having the encounters

967
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.880
<v Speaker 2>like I look for this stuff everywhere. My wife's last

968
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Sunday because we'll be driving down the road and man,

969
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm always doing the cop thing, looking everywhere, scamming everything.

970
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>That's something I do constantly because I think that's some

971
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:41.800
<v Speaker 2>good points. And you've seen it once, then you're aware

972
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 2>of it, then you notice it, and you look, you're

973
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>more than likely to see it. I just wanted to

974
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.280
<v Speaker 2>hear your opinion on that because it's really interesting to me.

975
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I think me and you could sit and talk forever

976
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>with our backgrounds and everything. I want to talk about

977
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 2>something that's the lightning Rod topic. And I know we

978
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.199
<v Speaker 2>talked a little bit off air about it, but you

979
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.360
<v Speaker 2>mentioned the name. I remember I made a post one

980
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 2>time and they had a picture of his that had

981
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.960
<v Speaker 2>made And everybody probably knows not what I'm talking about,

982
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:11.360
<v Speaker 2>but Todd Standing, I've heard some stuff. You actually did

983
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>what a lot of people should do, called him out

984
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>on some stuff because I think that people like that

985
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:18.280
<v Speaker 2>really hurt this community. And I'm not one. You know,

986
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:20.639
<v Speaker 2>my podcast, I'm all about giving people a safe platform.

987
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm here to do. I'm not here to

988
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.599
<v Speaker 2>prove or disprove anything. But I think a lot of

989
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 2>times he's hurt the community. And I don't know if

990
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 2>community is the right word, but he's hurt it because

991
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times you got people we talked about

992
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>that have all these encounters, they're just afraid to come

993
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 2>forward because of the ridicule. I think that makes it

994
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 2>harder on people, because I don't know of anybody that

995
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 2>walks out in the woods and every time they go

996
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 2>out they have an encounter. If you want to talk

997
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:42.719
<v Speaker 2>about it, you don't have to, but I'd love to

998
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:43.920
<v Speaker 2>hear your thoughts with that.

999
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I just love to hear it and stay tuned for

1000
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.239
<v Speaker 1>more Sasquatch Out to see We'll be right back after

1001
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>these messages. Yeah, I'm one of those people that do

1002
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. I've always prided myself. I started sasquatch

1003
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Out It to give people a safe space to come

1004
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>on and share their experiences because I wanted it for me.

1005
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:09.639
<v Speaker 1>I wanted the show started for me to bring people on,

1006
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.199
<v Speaker 1>specifically in the Southeastern United States. I wanted to talk

1007
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>to people around me and in my area that it

1008
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:17.440
<v Speaker 1>had experiences with these things. Because you hear that all

1009
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the time in the Pacific, Northwest, Canada and Alaska. I

1010
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.159
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to people like me in my area.

1011
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I was born and raised in the South that had

1012
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 1>these experiences. I've always prided myself on giving people a

1013
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 1>safe space, and I still do. But the more I've

1014
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>gotten into this the show has become more popular, I've

1015
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 1>almost felt a responsibility in some cases to just share

1016
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>my opinion about things. I've only done it with a

1017
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>handful of people. I don't typically call people out that

1018
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I call them smaller time hoaxters or hucksters. But when

1019
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you make money off of your hoaxes and you're making

1020
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a big name for yourself and people are following you

1021
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and you have a ton of influence and your stuff

1022
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>is complete bs, I'm going to call you out. And

1023
00:46:58.039 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Todd was one of the first people that ever did

1024
00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:01.719
<v Speaker 1>that with because I tell you, the first time I

1025
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:03.599
<v Speaker 1>saw his videos, I'd be perfectly honest. I've said it

1026
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:05.679
<v Speaker 1>so many times on other shows and on my own show.

1027
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.519
<v Speaker 1>I was blown away the first time I saw the

1028
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 1>Discovering Bigfoot documentary, and I was like, why is everybody

1029
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.800
<v Speaker 1>in the world not talking about this? Because I was

1030
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>fresh into the subject and I say that because I've

1031
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 1>always had an interest. I had to expience it at twelve,

1032
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 1>but to really get into the subject and really get

1033
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>into the forums on Facebook and start really going down

1034
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the rabbit hole, I was fresh and new to that.

1035
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 1>And then I got into some of the Bigfoot groups,

1036
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:34.760
<v Speaker 1>about five hundred or so that I joined. When I

1037
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 1>first got into this, I watched the Discovering Bigfoot documentary

1038
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, why is everybody not talking about this?

1039
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>They are, I just didn't know it, and that, of

1040
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 1>course it's the Muppets, And so I went back and

1041
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>watched it again, and then I put the kool Aid down.

1042
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I had the couple of kool aid and I just

1043
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 1>set it on the table and I said, Okay, I'm

1044
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.880
<v Speaker 1>going to watch this one more time, and I'm going

1045
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to wear a different lens here. I'm gonna put the

1046
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 1>cop brain on. I'm going to put the skeptic brain on,

1047
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just going to watch this dude. And I

1048
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you, I was sick by the end of it,

1049
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.320
<v Speaker 1>because if you watch it from the correct lens, you

1050
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:14.559
<v Speaker 1>see how manipulative this dude is. He's manipulating doctor Jeff Meldrim,

1051
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 1>who I consider now a friend, the late doctor John Bendernagel.

1052
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I think he was really railroading, and he's continued this

1053
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 1>throughout his career. You see it more and more, especially

1054
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>when you're with him personally. I've had this experience a

1055
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:33.400
<v Speaker 1>couple of times personally in the flesh with Todd since then,

1056
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:35.599
<v Speaker 1>and I've seen it so many times on some of

1057
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:38.880
<v Speaker 1>his videos that I've seen after my trip up to Radium.

1058
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.679
<v Speaker 1>He's the best used car salesman that there is on

1059
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:45.639
<v Speaker 1>the lot. He can sell ice cubes to eskimos, and

1060
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 1>that's what he's done with Bigfoot, because if you watch

1061
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that documentary, he's doing that throughout. He's doing it with

1062
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.599
<v Speaker 1>the audience with the camera, and he's also doing it

1063
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>with two PhDs that he's playing like he's sculpting them

1064
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 1>before our eyes, honestly. And once I went back and

1065
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>looked at it from that lens and I saw through

1066
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>some of the charade, and then I looked at the

1067
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.679
<v Speaker 1>videos a little closer, and I'm thinking, yes, especially that

1068
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Caboda video. Towards the end he calls it Caboda, it

1069
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:14.679
<v Speaker 1>looks like Todd or his dad like laying on the

1070
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 1>ground with some black shoe polish on his face. I

1071
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, are you kidding me? And I'm gonna tell

1072
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 1>you one of the things that really got me. Matter

1073
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of fact, I think Wayne my Coast on that Bigfoot podcast,

1074
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>he and I had a conversation about this months ago.

1075
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:30.199
<v Speaker 1>At this point, there was that one scene in the

1076
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:33.199
<v Speaker 1>documentary where Todd is out there by himself. These things

1077
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 1>are around him and he's yelling. He's setting off the

1078
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 1>flares in the background. I think you can see this glove.

1079
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, it's not a glove. It's clear to the sasquatch.

1080
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 1>This sasquatch reach over the stump and pull the apple,

1081
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and he goes back and shows you look, the apple's there,

1082
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and now it's gone. The apple's there, now it's gone.

1083
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I watched that, and I tell you the vocalizations I've

1084
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.320
<v Speaker 1>heard that before. I actually had a person send me

1085
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna call him out by name, but I've

1086
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 1>had somebody send me audio in the past that he

1087
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:01.639
<v Speaker 1>claimed it was a sasquatch. But it was in this

1088
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>weird slow mode video that was dubbed over with no

1089
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.599
<v Speaker 1>other audio. It was just these vocalizations in the background.

1090
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I ended up sending it over to Doug Hichik. He

1091
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.199
<v Speaker 1>sent it back in twenty seconds. He said, that's clearly

1092
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.000
<v Speaker 1>fake and it's dubbed over. That's what those vocalizations sound

1093
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:20.119
<v Speaker 1>like in the Discovering Bigfoot documentary with Tide and this

1094
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:25.639
<v Speaker 1>fake I'm scared. It's just complete bs, dude. And when

1095
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I watched that again, I just completely shifted and then

1096
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 1>I just went off the rails with it, and I

1097
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:31.719
<v Speaker 1>just said, I think he's hoaxing, and I called him

1098
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:33.440
<v Speaker 1>a hoaxer. For a couple of years on the show,

1099
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I kept trying to get him on. I wanted to

1100
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 1>have a conversation with him. He would not come on

1101
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the show. I finally reached out to Less Stroud. Survivor

1102
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Man got less Stroud on the show and I knew

1103
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.039
<v Speaker 1>he'd been out with Todd. Less is a big deal

1104
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:45.920
<v Speaker 1>for me. I grew up on Survivor Man. I loved

1105
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 1>the show. I had respect for Less as a person.

1106
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:51.320
<v Speaker 1>He's just a cool dude. I have a lot of

1107
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 1>respect for me. He didn't really have a dog in

1108
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bigfoot fight, at least I didn't think so at

1109
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the time. I had him on the show and we

1110
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.599
<v Speaker 1>talked about Todd once I that. He said, look, I

1111
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.119
<v Speaker 1>have some issues with Todd because everything was bigfoot when

1112
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:06.719
<v Speaker 1>we were out, he said, I held the SD cards

1113
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 1>of his stuff in my hand, and I can't tell

1114
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 1>you that they're faked. As far as the videos, the

1115
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 1>images that he purports to be sasquatch, he said, I

1116
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:16.719
<v Speaker 1>always had this problem with where was the lead up?

1117
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Where was the before and after footage?

1118
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1119
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Because you're a videographer man, you film stuff. There's always

1120
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a before and after, right, It's never just the shot.

1121
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 1>But with Todd it is and we've never seen that.

1122
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.679
<v Speaker 1>And that was always a sticking point for Less. So

1123
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>after Less came on the show, I guess it was

1124
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:34.639
<v Speaker 1>probably two weeks later, I get an email from Todd

1125
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and miraculously he's agreed to come on my show. It's amazing.

1126
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So he comes on and we had a good conversation.

1127
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:42.039
<v Speaker 1>I'd be honest, I've made no qualms about it. I

1128
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:44.800
<v Speaker 1>like the guy. He's a charismatic dude. He's a bit

1129
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of an ass, but once you get past that, we

1130
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>can all be that. I like the dude. I ended

1131
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>up he still got a couple of my videos. As

1132
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, the less strout interview is still

1133
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 1>posted on his Sylvanic Bigfoot channel on YouTube. He's probably

1134
00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:02.599
<v Speaker 1>still making money off You're Welcome, Todd. So I called

1135
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:04.320
<v Speaker 1>him out. He got a little heated on the show.

1136
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.039
<v Speaker 1>People actually watched that episode and thought he had admitted

1137
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to hoaxing because he got so close. I pushed him

1138
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to the point of saying, I've had conversations with people,

1139
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's clear that if I hoaxed, these are the

1140
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:20.559
<v Speaker 1>reasons he starts going down because I'm sure shit finding footprints,

1141
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure finding this. If I hoaxed it, it was

1142
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>for species recognition and protection of these creatures. I almost

1143
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 1>had him, but he's smarter than that. Long story short,

1144
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 1>he kept telling me. He challenged me to come up

1145
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to the research areas, come out and see for yourself.

1146
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, did, I'm not paying you four thousand

1147
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.559
<v Speaker 1>dollars to come up there and spend a week in

1148
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the woods. I'm not doing that. So ultimately it got

1149
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:43.280
<v Speaker 1>to the point where I didn't pay four thousand dollars

1150
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:45.519
<v Speaker 1>to go up there. He invited me up there, and

1151
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I went up last October. I spent seven days in

1152
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the woods with Todd and Kyle. I think you've had

1153
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Kyle on the show in the past. Kyle was there

1154
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:57.159
<v Speaker 1>and his dad, Richard Todd's research partner and girlfriend Ashley.

1155
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.639
<v Speaker 1>They're no longer together, but Ashley was there as well.

1156
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:03.239
<v Speaker 1>And I tell you I had some experiences I can't explain.

1157
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:03.480
<v Speaker 4>Man.

1158
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.119
<v Speaker 1>We were eighteen miles deep in the woods. That was

1159
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 1>check mark number one for me, because I didn't realize

1160
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:11.960
<v Speaker 1>how remote this place was until I actually went. We

1161
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.679
<v Speaker 1>lost cell signal like thirty five miles before we turned

1162
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>off with this logging road that took us almost another

1163
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:21.559
<v Speaker 1>twenty miles deep in the woods. It's remote, right, There's

1164
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>no way that people were out there hoaxing people. So

1165
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:26.159
<v Speaker 1>that was check mark number one. I thought, Okay, this

1166
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 1>guy clearly doesn't just have people out here throwing rocks

1167
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:31.360
<v Speaker 1>or doing whatever. He's making these vocalizations. But yeah, I

1168
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>experienced several vocalizations wood knocks. There was a couple of

1169
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.239
<v Speaker 1>times I think I interacted with a sasquatch doing wood knocks,

1170
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:40.719
<v Speaker 1>whoops and other things. I heard what Sam did like

1171
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.760
<v Speaker 1>samurai chatter. We had rocks thrown at us a couple

1172
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:48.079
<v Speaker 1>of times. I found thousands of tree breaks. I'm not

1173
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:51.239
<v Speaker 1>really sold on the tree break thing. But if tree

1174
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>breaks are a real thing, the sasquatch and his research

1175
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:57.320
<v Speaker 1>area are tree breakers and tons of footprints. I found

1176
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:01.840
<v Speaker 1>trackways that I took my too. Nobody led me there.

1177
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Todd didn't lead me there. I went off on my

1178
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:07.639
<v Speaker 1>own and found what looks like trackways with these huge

1179
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>footprints that looked very Sasquatch like. And I've made no

1180
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>qualms about it. I said it, especially after going up there.

1181
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 1>If I were a Sasquatch, I would want to live

1182
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:18.199
<v Speaker 1>in his research area. It is perfect. It is one

1183
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>of the prettiest places I've ever been. I don't doubt

1184
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:23.559
<v Speaker 1>that they're sasquatch activity there. If these things are real,

1185
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:26.119
<v Speaker 1>they would be there. I just don't believe what he's

1186
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:29.760
<v Speaker 1>putting out. As far as his videos. Again, Todd was

1187
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:32.079
<v Speaker 1>very gracious. He invited me into his home. He fed

1188
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 1>me again. The guys, he's a decent dude, he's a father.

1189
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't hate the man by any stretch of the imagination.

1190
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I just think he's hoaxing bigfootshit. Most people probably don't

1191
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:46.880
<v Speaker 1>know this, but just recently Todd has installed video cameras

1192
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 1>in his research area. There's a couple of trailers there

1193
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that people stay in when you go on expedition. If

1194
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:54.880
<v Speaker 1>you've been to base camp, you know what it looks like.

1195
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>The guy who put him up there actually reached out

1196
00:54:57.239 --> 00:54:59.239
<v Speaker 1>to me about a month ago and told me that

1197
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 1>he was doing this because he's been up there on

1198
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.360
<v Speaker 1>expedition a couple of times that he wanted to do

1199
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:06.280
<v Speaker 1>this partner with Todd and put up these cameras for

1200
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:08.199
<v Speaker 1>a twenty four hour a day, seven day a week,

1201
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:10.360
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and sixty five day view of this base

1202
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 1>camp area. We're supposed to be sending me the app

1203
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that they've created for people to have access to. This

1204
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:18.480
<v Speaker 1>is not live, but he's going to send me a

1205
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:20.400
<v Speaker 1>version of it on my phone so I can get

1206
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 1>the sort of the first look at these cameras. I'm

1207
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:25.679
<v Speaker 1>anxious to see that because I told Logan, I said, dude,

1208
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great idea, because you think I

1209
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.599
<v Speaker 1>experienced things around base camp. One of the guys that

1210
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:33.760
<v Speaker 1>was with me, Richard Kyle's dad, said he had a

1211
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.760
<v Speaker 1>sighting one night, three o'clock in the morning outside the camper,

1212
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:39.800
<v Speaker 1>So I think things are happening there. But you got

1213
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 1>to understand dude, there could be a sasquatch. Nobody's going

1214
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.559
<v Speaker 1>to believe it because it's tied Standing's research area, so

1215
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 1>just know that when it happens, and he's fully aware

1216
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 1>of that. So interesting stuff. Man. I'm anxious to see

1217
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.800
<v Speaker 1>what the cameras look like. I think you can actually

1218
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.079
<v Speaker 1>move them. I know you can take the last sixty

1219
00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 1>seconds of footage and share it with people. So if

1220
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you do, you see something. He's got the capability of

1221
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:04.679
<v Speaker 1>doing that. So look, it's supposed to give me access

1222
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:06.519
<v Speaker 1>to that, hopefully in the next couple of days or so,

1223
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 1>before it goes live here in a few months for

1224
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody else. So I'm anxious to see what comes out

1225
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:12.159
<v Speaker 1>of that. I think it's interesting.

1226
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.199
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, wow, he brought us some good points and

1227
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.679
<v Speaker 2>I think I feel exact same way. Do I think

1228
00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 2>that there's there's gonna be satisfat chat there? Absolutely. Do

1229
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that he's had encounters with them, Yeah, more

1230
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.599
<v Speaker 2>than likely. But I think that he saw a way

1231
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:27.440
<v Speaker 2>to make a lot of money and he took something

1232
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:30.280
<v Speaker 2>that was real and he just tried to get I

1233
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.199
<v Speaker 2>don't want to use words famous, but tried to get

1234
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.559
<v Speaker 2>It's like you hear Tom standing and most people they

1235
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:36.559
<v Speaker 2>know who that is, regardless if they're end of the

1236
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.440
<v Speaker 2>big foot world or not. And I hate that, man,

1237
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:41.079
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, what if they're there, what if they're

1238
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:44.000
<v Speaker 2>really seeing stuff? But now, like you said, it's a

1239
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:46.679
<v Speaker 2>cool thing that they're doing. That is awesome. I'd love

1240
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 2>to see it. But if I saw something and my

1241
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:51.400
<v Speaker 2>first thought was like, yeah, but what is it right?

1242
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know, in law enforcement, once you lose your

1243
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:57.400
<v Speaker 2>credibility on the stand, you were done. You're done. And

1244
00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.440
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like the same thing. I'm sure he's a

1245
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 2>great dry and I'm sure that he's probably had encounters, man,

1246
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:04.599
<v Speaker 2>but I hate that he's too good that hard because

1247
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 2>it's just for me. It's ruined something and makes it

1248
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:09.880
<v Speaker 2>hard on everybody else. I would do an injustice to

1249
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:12.239
<v Speaker 2>this thing if I didn't ask you two more things

1250
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:14.880
<v Speaker 2>before we got off here, man number one, I got

1251
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:16.639
<v Speaker 2>to hear a cop story. We can sit probably in

1252
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.320
<v Speaker 2>swap cop stores back and forth if you're up to that.

1253
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:20.920
<v Speaker 2>But one thing I want to ask, and I get

1254
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:24.199
<v Speaker 2>flacked for asking this, but I'm not trying to copycat anybody.

1255
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:26.639
<v Speaker 2>I really want to know because I asked my guest this,

1256
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 2>what do you think these things are? What do you

1257
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:28.840
<v Speaker 2>think they are?

1258
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I've went back and forth on that question so many times.

1259
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I used to be in the camp of more along

1260
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.280
<v Speaker 1>the lines of what Cliff thinks. I think he's more

1261
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:43.039
<v Speaker 1>in the paranthropists possibly, But I tell you the more

1262
00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I've had conversations with Matt Pruitt, Matt, it's a friend

1263
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>of mine. If you've read The Phenomenal Sasquatch, it is

1264
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.679
<v Speaker 1>a no pun intended, It is a phenomenal book. So

1265
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:54.800
<v Speaker 1>if you guys are into a book, obviously I wrote

1266
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a book, you can read that as well, but I

1267
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 1>would recommend Matt's book. He's a super smart guy. He's

1268
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:01.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the smartest people I've ever met when it

1269
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:04.719
<v Speaker 1>comes to Bigfoot, just in general really, but he's more

1270
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:07.239
<v Speaker 1>along the lines of Gigantopithicus, and he makes some really

1271
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.639
<v Speaker 1>good points of why. There's a couple of breakdowns that

1272
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Matt does that are really intelligent in his book that

1273
00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:16.599
<v Speaker 1>make you scratch your head. It's moved me in that direction.

1274
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:21.760
<v Speaker 1>If Gigantopithecus could have made it to North America, I

1275
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:27.519
<v Speaker 1>think it is a good candidate for Bigfoot. Sasquatch than

1276
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I previously would have considered. For the very smart way

1277
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that Matt breaks it down in some of the things

1278
00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 1>he says that I can't recall at this particular moment,

1279
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 1>or i'd share it with you guys, but you just

1280
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:41.280
<v Speaker 1>have to read his book. But all jokes aside, he

1281
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:44.239
<v Speaker 1>breaks down a couple of things that really make sense

1282
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that don't fit some of the other suspects like paranthropists

1283
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and Australia pitheescenes even that Gigantopithecus checks a lot more

1284
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>boxes for Bigfoot. It's less of elite, is a good

1285
00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.559
<v Speaker 1>way to put it. It's less of elite than Paranthropus

1286
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.599
<v Speaker 1>or relapitho scenes. It's not just size, it's other things

1287
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that go along with this bipedalism, look, emotion, and some

1288
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:08.840
<v Speaker 1>of the ways that they move and diet. So short

1289
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.320
<v Speaker 1>answer to that, I would say, probably some sort of

1290
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:15.519
<v Speaker 1>relict tominoid. I'm not saying that Gigantopithecus somehow survived. I

1291
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 1>think it would be some sort of cross over, some

1292
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of hybrid, possibly of something else and Gigantopithecus. But

1293
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I certainly believe it's flesh and blood. I believe it

1294
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:28.880
<v Speaker 1>is some sort of relict tomanoid. I don't believe in

1295
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the portals and interdimensionality and all the other things that

1296
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.159
<v Speaker 1>go along with that. I'm not saying it's not possible.

1297
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I just choose to stick in the lane of more

1298
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:40.280
<v Speaker 1>flesh and blood when it comes to these things.

1299
00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:42.840
<v Speaker 2>The thing about this world is there's I think all

1300
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.760
<v Speaker 2>of us are taking really good, educated guesses because, like

1301
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:48.960
<v Speaker 2>you said, who knows, Like, there's no way to know.

1302
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I hate it when people come on here and they're like,

1303
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm an expert and you've met I'm like, I know

1304
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.840
<v Speaker 2>everything there is to know about Bigfoot, and I'm like,

1305
00:59:56.400 --> 00:59:58.559
<v Speaker 2>there's no way that you can know. We're just taking

1306
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:00.760
<v Speaker 2>the best guesses that we can. For me, I think

1307
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:03.679
<v Speaker 2>they're neffling fallen angels. I don't know what to do

1308
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:05.559
<v Speaker 2>with it, and that's what keeps me up at night.

1309
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll

1310
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 1>be right back.

1311
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:16.000
<v Speaker 2>After these messages, it was like, where do you put

1312
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:17.639
<v Speaker 2>that this has been a cop There's got to be

1313
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:20.440
<v Speaker 2>a resolution. The case needs to be closed, and this

1314
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.559
<v Speaker 2>is probably one that will never be closed for us

1315
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.239
<v Speaker 2>in this world. It's just not gonna happen. I don't

1316
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:28.000
<v Speaker 2>think in our lifetime. I could be wrong. I don't know,

1317
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:30.079
<v Speaker 2>but it's really interesting and I just I love to

1318
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.039
<v Speaker 2>hear people's opinions and thoughts on that. I get a

1319
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:34.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of flags sometimes in the comments your Copykat and

1320
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.519
<v Speaker 2>why are you asking that? I'm like, it's not trademark.

1321
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I really want to know. What are you think? But

1322
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:41.960
<v Speaker 2>what's the craziest cops story man, that you got that

1323
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you're open to talk about? Know me, there's things I

1324
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:47.440
<v Speaker 2>won't talk about, but what comes to mind wrapping this

1325
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:47.880
<v Speaker 2>thing up.

1326
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I've got a ton of cop stories. But I tell

1327
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:52.920
<v Speaker 1>this quite often on other podcasts. I've talked about it

1328
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:55.159
<v Speaker 1>a little bit on my show, and it goes into Bigfoot,

1329
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and this is usually where I tell the story. But

1330
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a true story that happened to me. It goes

1331
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:03.280
<v Speaker 1>along with mind speak. It's a wu high strangeness part

1332
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:05.559
<v Speaker 1>of Bigfoot that people say these things spoke to me

1333
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:07.280
<v Speaker 1>in my mind. Survivor Man said he had a couple

1334
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.760
<v Speaker 1>of experiences with that, and he shared them on the

1335
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:11.679
<v Speaker 1>show with me, and he shared in other places and

1336
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Todd talks about that often. He went down that road

1337
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:18.880
<v Speaker 1>of telepathically communicating with Bigfoot. I'm just not picking up

1338
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 1>what they're putting down as far as that's concerned. And

1339
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I tell you this is I believe it's more of

1340
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:27.840
<v Speaker 1>explainable with your sixth sense. I think it's something that

1341
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.079
<v Speaker 1>we all have that is in eight to us as

1342
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:33.880
<v Speaker 1>human beings. I think it's part of our wiring. I

1343
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>relate this story that happened to me typical. I did

1344
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:39.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of DUI did DUI for two and a

1345
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:41.760
<v Speaker 1>half three years, so I was working on Morning Watch

1346
01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:43.760
<v Speaker 1>ten pm to six am. I did a ton of

1347
01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:46.280
<v Speaker 1>traffic stops. I was usually locking up three DUIs a

1348
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:50.039
<v Speaker 1>night on average, and Buckhead it was a ton. Yeah,

1349
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 1>three hundred plus DUI rest a year, exch a lot.

1350
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1351
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and eight to one. The Mother's Against Drunk

1352
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Driver's Award for the most DUI arrest in the state

1353
01:01:57.400 --> 01:01:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of Georgia.

1354
01:01:57.920 --> 01:01:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1355
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:00.440
<v Speaker 1>But I said all that to say I was pulling

1356
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 1>over this car. I was driving down I think it

1357
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:05.239
<v Speaker 1>was Piedmont Road in downtown Buckheat. If you guys have

1358
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.760
<v Speaker 1>been down to Buckhead, you know exactly where I'm talking about.

1359
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Where all the clubs are on Piedmont road. I went

1360
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to pull over this car. I could tell there's five

1361
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:14.400
<v Speaker 1>guys in the car. There's late, it's probably two in

1362
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:16.599
<v Speaker 1>the morning, not a lot of traffic out. So I

1363
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:19.960
<v Speaker 1>hit the blue lights and the guy keeps going. He's

1364
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:23.280
<v Speaker 1>not running, he's just going right. Makes a left turn,

1365
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:26.920
<v Speaker 1>then a right turn, then a left turn, and he

1366
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.039
<v Speaker 1>pulls me behind these buildings. He's trying to get me

1367
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 1>in the dark. We're off the beaten path. We're in

1368
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:36.119
<v Speaker 1>this dark area behind this building. Again. I could tell

1369
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:39.119
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight on him. I had to take down lights on.

1370
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I could see five heads in this car. I knew

1371
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:44.320
<v Speaker 1>it was packed, right, So I'm thinking, okay, but I'm

1372
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a go get her man. I'm just gonna handle my business, right.

1373
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:49.679
<v Speaker 1>I do it hundreds of times a week. I'm good.

1374
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:51.960
<v Speaker 1>But I tell you, I got to this point where

1375
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:54.239
<v Speaker 1>we finally stopped, and we're behind this building and it's

1376
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:57.119
<v Speaker 1>just us. I can't even see the street lights. It's

1377
01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 1>just we're in this dark area. I got out of

1378
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the car, I opened the door, pulled out on radio

1379
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and something said, do not walk up to the driver's

1380
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.079
<v Speaker 1>side of that car. The hair on my arms is

1381
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:12.320
<v Speaker 1>standing up now, just telling the story. I felt like

1382
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm back there. But the hair on the back of

1383
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:17.239
<v Speaker 1>my neck stood up, the hair on my arm stood up,

1384
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:21.519
<v Speaker 1>and something said, don't walk up to the driver's side

1385
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.559
<v Speaker 1>of that car. So I didn't. I backed up. I

1386
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:27.559
<v Speaker 1>had my spotlight on. How you position your lights, I

1387
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:29.800
<v Speaker 1>had my take down lights. He couldn't see shit. So

1388
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:34.039
<v Speaker 1>I backed behind my cruiser, watching the car. I unholsted

1389
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:36.719
<v Speaker 1>my weapon. I had my weapon down on the right

1390
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:40.039
<v Speaker 1>side of my body. I walked to the passenger side

1391
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of the car, and I see every head in the

1392
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:46.480
<v Speaker 1>car looking to the driver side of the car. I

1393
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:50.159
<v Speaker 1>look down into the driver's side and the guy has

1394
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:52.199
<v Speaker 1>a forty five pistol in his hand. I already had

1395
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:55.039
<v Speaker 1>my weapon out. I turned my flashlight on. I told

1396
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:58.000
<v Speaker 1>him all. I stuck my pistol to the temple of

1397
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:01.159
<v Speaker 1>the passenger. I said, if you so much as breathe,

1398
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to blow your brains out. Everybody's in the

1399
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.400
<v Speaker 1>car like, oh shit, So I go through the thing.

1400
01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I got them all out of the car. I had

1401
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 1>flexi cuffs. I had him sitting lined up on the

1402
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:13.199
<v Speaker 1>outside of the car. And finally, I think it was

1403
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:15.920
<v Speaker 1>probably thirty minutes into the stop. My sergeant rolls by

1404
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's, what the hell are you doing, dude? Like,

1405
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:19.920
<v Speaker 1>why didn't you call somebody? Why you got five guys?

1406
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I said, this guy had a pistol. I'm going through

1407
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the thing. And I had a conversation with the kid

1408
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:28.079
<v Speaker 1>that it was like nineteen, and I said, what were

1409
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you doing? Dude? He said, we've been smoking weed and

1410
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I knew you smelled it. And I didn't want to

1411
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:33.599
<v Speaker 1>go to jail. I was going to shoot you. And

1412
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:36.519
<v Speaker 1>I was like, are you a joking man? Are you

1413
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:38.400
<v Speaker 1>kidding me? And he was like, no, I'm serious. You

1414
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:40.360
<v Speaker 1>know I didn't want to go to jail. I said

1415
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:42.320
<v Speaker 1>all that to say, that's usually the story that I

1416
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:44.840
<v Speaker 1>tell to say. Bigfoot wasn't speaking to me by a

1417
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:48.400
<v Speaker 1>telepathic communication. I don't think anybody in the car was.

1418
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't think God was. I knew that shit wasn't

1419
01:04:52.199 --> 01:04:54.440
<v Speaker 1>right and I shouldn't go up and approach that car

1420
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the way I had done a thousand times. Because if

1421
01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd approached that car like i'd done a thousand times,

1422
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:00.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll be here right now. I think he

1423
01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:02.760
<v Speaker 1>would have probably gotten the drop on me, because I

1424
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:05.400
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been expecting it. I think there's ways to

1425
01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:07.599
<v Speaker 1>process things and look at things. And I'm not saying

1426
01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that people haven't had mine speak with bigfoot. I just

1427
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:13.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's more like that situation. I think our bodies

1428
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:16.039
<v Speaker 1>and I think we are smart enough, we have things

1429
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:18.880
<v Speaker 1>that we don't even understand about ourselves that tell us

1430
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:20.599
<v Speaker 1>things that we need to know to keep us safe.

1431
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what it is more often than not,

1432
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:25.559
<v Speaker 1>and you need to listen to it. It's that gut feeling.

1433
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:27.199
<v Speaker 1>We talk about the gut feeling, right, if you have

1434
01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:29.679
<v Speaker 1>a gut feeling, I've always went with my gut and

1435
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.599
<v Speaker 1>it saved me every single time.

1436
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Did that voice you listened to, man, I'm sure you

1437
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.519
<v Speaker 2>talked to any copp They've got stories and stories where

1438
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:40.280
<v Speaker 2>they have listened to that voice. And yeah, reminded me

1439
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:43.079
<v Speaker 2>really similar to that. You're very fortunate to be alive.

1440
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<v Speaker 4>Man.

1441
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:46.199
<v Speaker 2>But I pulled this car in one not the same thing.

1442
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I worked in really small town. Three hundred dbis in

1443
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:52.440
<v Speaker 2>a year that's unheard of. There probably wasn't three hundred

1444
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:55.599
<v Speaker 2>people driving through our town. But anyways, I pulled this

1445
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:58.280
<v Speaker 2>car over in back. Uplist, you're thirty minutes away, if

1446
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:01.880
<v Speaker 2>you're lucky, twenty minutes probably really Rule county. And there

1447
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:04.480
<v Speaker 2>was this truck and I was like dog on a bone.

1448
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:06.639
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't let go of something. I'm following all the

1449
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:08.360
<v Speaker 2>way out, tracing it to the end. You know we're

1450
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:10.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna do this and all this kinds of stuff. Man,

1451
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:13.159
<v Speaker 2>not two o'clock, three o'clock in morning, they come through town.

1452
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember what my PC was. I remember

1453
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.519
<v Speaker 2>what I pulled him over for. I lit him up,

1454
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:19.840
<v Speaker 2>open up the car door, do the thing, watch some

1455
01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:22.400
<v Speaker 2>spotlight the whole thing. As soon as my foot hit

1456
01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.119
<v Speaker 2>the ground, same boards. Let them go. And the closer

1457
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:27.559
<v Speaker 2>I got to the truck, the more that was in

1458
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:30.960
<v Speaker 2>my mind. Let them go, let them go, all.

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01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Sort of short. I let him go.

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01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:34.519
<v Speaker 2>I knew that I would not make it home that

1461
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:36.760
<v Speaker 2>night if I had not let him go. And that

1462
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:37.800
<v Speaker 2>was not typical for me.

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01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:38.039
<v Speaker 4>Man.

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01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I was the guy who like, hey, listen, I'm not

1465
01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 2>letting you go. I was that guy. But pretty crazy stuff.

1466
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Man.

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01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it's God. I think God told me that. Man,

1468
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:47.599
<v Speaker 2>that's my take on it. But it's there. You just

1469
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:48.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of listen.

1470
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:49.199
<v Speaker 1>It amazes me.

1471
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.239
<v Speaker 2>The amount of people who don't listen to that noise.

1472
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:53.440
<v Speaker 2>You listen to that gut voice, and you're gonna be

1473
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:55.920
<v Speaker 2>all right ninety nine point nine percent of the time.

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01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you hear. Thanks for your service, and thanks

1475
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:00.239
<v Speaker 2>for taking the time. I know you're busy, so thanks

1476
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:02.639
<v Speaker 2>for taking the time to a couple of my podcasts

1477
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:04.039
<v Speaker 2>and share those stories with me. Man.

1478
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you too, Man, thank you for your service. I

1479
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:07.920
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it anytime. I'd love to come back.

1480
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That was great, man, that was awesome.

1481
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<v Speaker 4>They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

1482
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:24.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be world up it.

1483
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Try this job, that chart everything Joy for me, Joy

1484
01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:57.719
<v Speaker 3>stay right.

1485
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Away side and still still start stands stands staside, Still

1486
01:08:36.520 --> 01:09:09.239
<v Speaker 4>still stay psst ustad pays a ussst us as things

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<v Speaker 4>fast USS instances
