WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:12.919 Something's going to happen. What's going to happen? I think. 2 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:18.359 That's how I hope to. 3 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.640 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, I got a 4 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:31.640 couple of us with us. Tonight we got Lisa the 5 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:34.560 mad Scientist, the occult rejected mad scientist of what is 6 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:34.920 going on? 7 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:37.039 Lisa? How are you right? 8 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:37.359 Oh? 9 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:40.399 Good? Thank you for the invite. I'm very much looking 10 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.479 forward to discussing Anthon's book along with you and Jin 11 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:46.920 and just the only thing to plug with some of 12 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.799 the stuff that Ethan has contributed as amazing work to 13 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:53.960 the Occult Research Institute dot org and please check us 14 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:56.200 out on that it's a cold research institute dot org. 15 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:59.159 And Ethan has contributed along with other people as well, 16 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.280 if you like to to your content via. 17 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:06.879 Literary Okay, thank you very much, Yes, very well said. 18 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.760 And next we got Freda, Jim the Ninja. What is 19 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:12.480 going on? Freda? 20 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:14.359 Hey boss? What's up? 21 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:14.680 Hey? 22 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:17.879 Card and all I should say thanks, thank you so 23 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:21.560 much for inviting me on. Obviously I was saying before, 24 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:24.480 like anything to support Ethan. He's one of the rejects. 25 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:29.519 I've worked with many, many, dozens and dozens. We've done 26 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.040 dozens of shows at least together, so there's no way 27 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.079 I couldn't come on. And so I'll let my plug 28 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:39.879 just be you know, just like like subscribe and obviously 29 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:43.159 retweet the show, like I'll call rejects. But if you 30 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:45.840 really want to check me out, you can Threshold Saints. 31 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.840 Obviously you can look that up. But yeah, just support 32 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.439 the show, support Ethan's book, and I'm here for that. 33 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:53.519 And thank you Lisa, thank you Nick, thank you Ethan. 34 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:56.840 I'm really excited, to be honest, thank. 35 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:57.319 You for coming on. 36 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:58.760 Man, if we were't gonna play you show, I was 37 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:01.400 gonna say it anyway, So thank you. I appreciate it. 38 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.239 And then finally the man in the hour of the Hour, 39 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:05.879 We've got doctor Ethan Indigo. 40 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:12.879 I'll take philosophers. 41 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:17.560 Okay, I don't want to I don't want to claim, 42 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:24.479 but I am very appreciative of the involvement with the 43 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:29.479 cult rejects, and I just really appreciate you guys including 44 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:30.960 me and tolerating me. 45 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:41.360 And I I really appreciate you guys, Jim, Lisa, Nick, 46 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:46.680 I thank you for being my friend. And hopefully I 47 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.840 don't have an emotional breakdown on how much I love 48 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:54.319 you guys. And on how much I love marijuana. But 49 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:03.960 I'll try to remain study. So I wrote, I've written 50 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.919 several books. I wrote some fiction that I call that 51 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.560 I call pop fiction, and I'm trying to be silly 52 00:03:11.919 --> 00:03:15.360 with the pulp fiction genre, my own genre of pop fiction. 53 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:20.759 And I also wrote Marijuana and the Prohibition of the 54 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:27.919 Divine Feminine, which is nonfiction and it sounds like a 55 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:38.400 whole lot of wu. But I based this all on factual, historical, evidential, cultural, 56 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:45.360 even one could say magical ideas that have been put forth. 57 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.439 I wrote this a number of years ago with my 58 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:53.719 friend from Mendocino, California. I have roots in Mendocino. It's 59 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.360 like one of the old hippie dope capitals of California. 60 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.840 Angle that. Yeah, I've you know, I grew up with 61 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:10.759 a lot of marijuana, lets to say. And so I 62 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:13.960 want to thank Mendocino and thank James for his contribution 63 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:18.399 to this book. And as I was formulating the idea 64 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:23.480 for this presentation, I wanted to get some icing on 65 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:28.920 the cake to make my idea and presentation as good 66 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:34.480 as the Occult Rejects input and the Occult Rejects guests 67 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:39.959 presentations and I found some new ideas. And I just 68 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:42.360 want to say, for all the people who've been listening 69 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:49.079 and providing all these great spiritual lessons, I just appreciate it. 70 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:53.720 And uh, I enjoy all the lessons that I've been getting. 71 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:59.959 And to that point, writing is spelling is magic, right, 72 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:06.839 And there's there's maybe maybe two different dynamics one could 73 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:11.959 go about writing or spelling out uh this positive and 74 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:17.120 negative kind of magic, and one might be considered a 75 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:21.639 put on, and one might be considered as as I 76 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.879 want to present today, a positive less on, right, provide 77 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:29.720 less on. And I love that word because it's kind 78 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:34.879 of a little lesson into itself towards enlightenment, so. 79 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:40.199 That I always find that combination very interesting. 80 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:44.040 Right right, Yeah, that is that is interesting. And so 81 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:49.040 some magic puts on more stuff we have to carry around, 82 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:54.480 and other magic, in regards to spelling is a lesson. 83 00:05:56.519 --> 00:06:02.279 So one of the original intentions of this book was 84 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:06.360 not necessarily to explore certain things that I did explore. 85 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:11.480 The original intent was to break really what is a 86 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:17.040 cultural spell, and that being the idea of what is 87 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:21.519 the oldest profession And everyone kind of knows this. Over 88 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:26.040 the centuries, there has been different kind of cultural conceptual 89 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:32.079 conceptual ideas as to what was the oldest profession. Sometimes 90 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:37.680 it was tailor. I find that compelling. Sometimes it was hunter, farmer, this, 91 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:40.759 that and the other. But only in the last little 92 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:44.600 bit was it what it is today? And I, of 93 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:52.279 course it's really in regard to insulting one gender. And 94 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:56.519 the oldest profession is certainly not prostitution. If we look 95 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:01.800 at it from one example, if before there was money, 96 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:05.680 when we were dealing with shells, and people might say, 97 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:09.879 and it's pretty astute that a hunter is the oldest profession. 98 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:14.319 But no human being ever goes on an adventurous but 99 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:19.079 even hunting without knowing that it has a healer at home, 100 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:23.439 so learning to hunt or going on a hunt. The 101 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:27.079 difference between a big bear and a human is the 102 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:30.879 bear knows that if it gets a little slice, it 103 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.040 could die of infection, and it has no one to 104 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.480 help it. It can't even help itself. A human knows. 105 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:41.079 Even dogs. Actually they say they might have this level 106 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:45.040 of confidence when facing other beings on hunts because they 107 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:53.040 know they have healer, a healer or nurse, and so will. 108 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:54.560 Take me someway if I get hurt. 109 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.800 Yeah, Yeah, The dog knows too, even that it'll be 110 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:02.759 taken care of. That level of confidence, that understanding, maybe 111 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:07.879 that propelled humanity took places, you know, that are different 112 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:13.600 from any different animals originally even so, and and we 113 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.639 all grew up in the nurse in a nursery getting nursed, 114 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:22.360 you know, the nurse that dual meaning of caretaker, healer, 115 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:28.519 and and the our mother at the bosom, right, uh 116 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:32.279 And and then the secondary argument is after there is money, 117 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:36.120 well where do these other people get money? 118 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:36.879 Right? 119 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:44.080 And aspect of history is not that the blacksmiths and 120 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:51.200 the milk cow owners, they weren't after the prostitutes. It 121 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:56.279 was actually soldiering that enabled that type of thing to happen. 122 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:02.240 And you could say even that soldiering that is the 123 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:11.600 original prostitution. It's the oldest. I don't know if prostitution 124 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.440 is the oldest profession. I would never say something so base. 125 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:17.159 In fact, I argue that nursing is the oldest profession, 126 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:21.960 but soldiering is the old this prostitute. So with that 127 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:26.679 in mind, let's let's break some spells, because that is 128 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:31.120 a cultural spell that we've all been put on by. 129 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.120 You know, I just want to say real quick. 130 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:35.039 Do you think it's because I have thought about that, 131 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:38.399 and I'm like, that really kind of downplays. 132 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:39.919 Oh well, it's just the oldest profession. I mean, you 133 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.440 know who cares. Oh that's a big deal. 134 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:44.960 You know's've been doing it since the beginning of time. 135 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.799 It's not gonna stop, you know what I'm saying, Like 136 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:48.799 it almost downplays or even accepts the whole thing. 137 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:54.519 I think it's it's no thinking, Nick, It's it's degrading. 138 00:09:55.159 --> 00:10:00.440 It prevents degrading aspiration maybe, and it presents the grading 139 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:07.000 expectation right and and women, the feminine has long suffered 140 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:10.240 this as as we're going to explore. And this idea, 141 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:14.440 this notion was never mentioned in any ancient Greek or 142 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:18.720 ancient Roman society. This is a new idea. This, this 143 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:23.759 cultural spell about this being the oldest profession is a 144 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:25.600 new idea, and it was created. 145 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:25.840 Nick. 146 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:29.799 Let's let's go with the Let's start all these images 147 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:33.600 that I had. First. I want to just say that 148 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:38.960 I present a little timeline in my book Marijuana and 149 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:49.480 the Prohibition of the Divine Feminine. But I begin with this. Essentially, marijuana, cannabis, hemp, 150 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:56.440 all the same have provided humanity with clothing, with food, 151 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:03.519 with even material for shelter and nutrition, and even a 152 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:09.440 medicine and even a sacramental object. There's really nothing in 153 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.840 the world that is this, this level of provider of 154 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:19.799 resources that HEMP can be illustrated and even has the 155 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:24.559 sacrament and even has this narcotic or essence if you will, 156 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:29.440 that makes us feel good. So, I mean, there's nothing 157 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:35.879 like the divine feminine in its resource presentation and the 158 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:40.440 care in all the things that it provides, just in 159 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:46.200 that simple respect, and it is arguably the tree. One 160 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.960 could say, what's the sacred tree, Well, it might be 161 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.720 a willow, it might be an oak, and it might 162 00:11:52.759 --> 00:12:02.360 be cannabis. So in recent decades we've gotten better at 163 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:06.240 analyzing chemicals and we found out I believe in nineteen 164 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:09.480 sixty something or so, is the only one we were 165 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:16.159 able to isolate cannabinoids and THHC, and it is it 166 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:21.360 was found soon after that whether or not the mother 167 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:27.559 was around cannabis, there is cannabinoids in human breast milk. 168 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.559 And this is in of course very small amounts and 169 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:35.360 are non intoxicating, but it's theorized and I think it 170 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:39.720 makes sense that this is meant to soothe any anxiety 171 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:44.879 and enhance the appetite. Lisa, you probably know more about 172 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:48.840 this than I do, right, just just. 173 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.559 A little bit from the stuff that I've read, So 174 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:55.519 from what I've read, and please jump in because I'm 175 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:57.759 pretty sure you know a lot about the science with 176 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:04.159 it too. Is that there is I guess the psychoactive component, 177 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:07.759 which you know is more embodied by the THHC, and 178 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:13.120 then you have the soothing analgesic type of calmbing effect 179 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.879 with what we now know as CBD, and the plant 180 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.480 itself has over one hundred and fifty different components and 181 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.399 they all work in synergy together, and usually I think 182 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:28.480 with the different strains, different strains do different things. And 183 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:33.360 so the higher the THHC, the higher the psychoactive, the 184 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:38.320 lower the soothing, calmbing, anti anxiety. But the higher the CBD, 185 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:41.360 the higher the anxiety. I mean, the lower the anxiety, 186 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:44.559 but the less the psychoactive. So when you talk about 187 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:48.879 the cannabinoids, cannabinoids is naturally produced by the body itself, 188 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:51.399 and yes, the mother does produce that as a calming 189 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:56.559 effect for the baby and then to increase milk uptake 190 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:00.120 by the by the new needs. So yes, this is 191 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:03.759 very very true. And we have cannabinoid receptors all of 192 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.240 our body, from our brains, different parts of our brains, 193 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.919 to our immune sales, so it's everywhere. 194 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.240 I'll just add this one thing really quick. I love 195 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:19.480 that you brought up, Lisa, the galactogogic effect of hemp, 196 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:23.600 because most people totally forget that like that it does 197 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:26.399 have this fem even though astrologically, and I don't know 198 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:28.600 if you got into this ethan and obviously I won't 199 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:33.080 talk about it at all until you do. But for me, 200 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:38.600 even the astrology is very masculine, but there's a quality 201 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:42.080 of hemp as a whole plant, like maybe just taking 202 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:45.639 out as a whole, that is very feminine. So it 203 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:49.320 is interesting because when we do talk about the astrology 204 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:52.799 of it, there is a quality that's very dualistic. So 205 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:55.960 that would kind of make sense that there is like 206 00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:01.320 the material form is then feminine, but maybe the spiritual 207 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:05.559 essence is more masculine slash tra iconic. 208 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:10.440 And then also it has a high levels of phido estrogen. 209 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:16.600 It's several plants in the I forget what the family 210 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:19.919 is of cannabis, but I believe a lot of those 211 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:25.399 contain phido estrogens, which is in estrogen based plant based estrogen, 212 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:31.519 and so again the reaffirming feminine equality to it. I think. 213 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:36.679 I love it. And this is why I love the 214 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:40.399 occult Rejects is because it's like, oh I it's a 215 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:47.159 cult intelligence. I love all the great addition and contrasts 216 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:51.919 and lessons that the occult rejects provide. And I mean, 217 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.440 if if, if we're a different world, we might have 218 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:04.639 a certain daily requirement of cannabinoids. That's how integrative this 219 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:10.759 stuff is with our biology, or rather necessary by our biology. Right, 220 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:17.279 so let's let's take a look at the next image. 221 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:21.600 This is I'm sorry that it's small. 222 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:23.360 My bad. 223 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.639 Hopefully that won't happen again. But I can. I can 224 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:29.919 read it. I was going to read it anyway. This 225 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.080 is from where we get the idea that the oldest 226 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:39.159 profession is prostitution. And this guy was, of course a freemason. 227 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:42.480 He was made a freemason or joined the Freemasons when 228 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:46.120 he was twenty and he lived, you know, a lengthy life. 229 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:50.600 Rudyard Kipling. He is the creator of what is still 230 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:55.000 very influential material, the Jungle Book, and as an author 231 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:59.159 he is you got to look at him as being prolific. 232 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.000 But some of the things that he put forth are 233 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:05.880 so barbarous that it doesn't matter how much you put out, 234 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:09.839 because it's what you put out. And this is where 235 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:12.319 we get this from a short story that he wrote 236 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:17.759 on called on the City Wall, about to prostitute who 237 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:24.000 check out her name. Her name is Lalon, which of 238 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:28.279 course has the feminine the and loon for the moon. 239 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:33.599 So I'll read the quote. The short story is dry 240 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.480 and horrendous, you probably can't get through it, but this 241 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:43.119 quote talk about spellcasting. Lalun is a member of the 242 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:49.599 most ancient profession in the world. There it is Lilith who. 243 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:53.359 Lilith is an aspect of the divine feminine, kind of 244 00:17:53.359 --> 00:18:00.480 a polarity of an Anna or Ishtara. Lilith was her 245 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:06.359 very great grandmama, and that was before the days of eve. 246 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:13.079 There's another there's two feminine archetypes, as everyone knows. In 247 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:17.359 the West, people say rude things about Laaloon's profession and 248 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:21.680 write lectures about it and distribute the lectures to young 249 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:27.039 persons in order that morality may be preserved. In the East, 250 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:31.240 where the profession is hereditary, descending from mother to daughter, 251 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:34.720 which is just an insult, but probably was a predicament 252 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:39.799 to nobody writes lectures or takes any notice. And that 253 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:44.000 is distinct proof of the inability of the East to 254 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:52.559 manage its own affairs. Rudyard Kipling talk about spellcasting. Lawaloon 255 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:57.839 is just automatic, this feminine tonation, and then there's Lilith 256 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:02.480 and the great Grandmama and Eve and this whole idea 257 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.680 of the profession, and so it's it's I feel like 258 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:14.079 this is a total cultural spellcasting. And again, Rugyard Kipling 259 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:19.440 was a prolific writer. Another poem. Another thing he wrote 260 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:23.680 is the next image is called a poem, is a poem, 261 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:30.000 and the main theme from that is wait a second, 262 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:35.680 the white man's burden And how much has that phrase 263 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:41.319 influenced the propensity for people to take action as order 264 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:47.279 followers of the state in war. This was penned as 265 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:54.000 a inspiration for people to join armed forces and go 266 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:58.160 to the Philippines during the imperialistic time period of the 267 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:02.799 United States when we took over the Philippines. Spanish American 268 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:06.960 war type of thing. So this white Man's burden was 269 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:11.039 an idea to that basically says, oh, well, we gotta 270 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.359 we got to go to war in order to better 271 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:22.599 these people that are not white man. So Rudyard Kickling, Wow, 272 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:25.200 he put forth a couple of notions that have had 273 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:32.039 over a century of cultural put on and and that 274 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:37.200 contrast of prostitution and the war order follower, I think 275 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:41.079 it's is just worth noting. And he knew exactly what 276 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:43.680 he was doing, not because he was a freemason. I 277 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:45.599 don't say because of that, Nick, Let's check out the 278 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.279 next one. One of one of the things he one 279 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.400 of the things he wrote is is obvious obvious he 280 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:57.400 knew what he was doing. So there's just there's just 281 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:03.440 a little quote. And so there's that this is this 282 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:10.319 is a cultural put on. Uh, And I mean there's 283 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:14.680 there's a lot of I think sometimes I might call 284 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:19.319 it new age bs, but I think it's anyway, it's 285 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:25.200 cultural bs that we end up or maybe we hear 286 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:29.880 people repeating and it ends up being influential. You know, 287 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:35.240 when I when I first wrote this, one thing I conceptualized, 288 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:41.400 initially beyond the nursing idea, was if cannabis and marijuana 289 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:45.400 were legal. And you know, it's it's funny if you 290 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:49.839 say marijuana, people actually take offense to that that are 291 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:54.039 in the cannabis industry, because this is a word actually 292 00:21:54.279 --> 00:22:02.839 used to demonize the herb and in in the Mexican Spanish, 293 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:08.400 uh presentation of that word, and it demonized it by 294 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:12.400 demonizing people. Wait, they weren't white. There's that white man's 295 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:18.640 burden again, and and so uh, it's it's it's a 296 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:22.599 strange thing that that word has some criticism in the 297 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:25.599 cannabis realm, but for reasons that. 298 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:32.240 Are in the they did use the fact. 299 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:35.880 Well, they would say that if a black man used cocaine, 300 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:36.920 goes psychotic. 301 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:38.720 So that was original reason. 302 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:40.519 It was one of the many reasons whether we're trying 303 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:43.000 to legalize that as well. 304 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:44.440 Yep, that was that. 305 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:51.359 Yeah, and anyone that had melanin was likely to go 306 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:56.160 crazy off of this herb was essentially essentially what they 307 00:22:56.160 --> 00:23:00.200 were putting forth and essentially the hysteria that got people 308 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:05.240 to ban this herb that's been so integrated in humanity 309 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:09.400 that we literally have the endo cannabinoid system, our nervous 310 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:14.759 system needs it. One might say, So it's funny that 311 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:19.400 words might anger people. I liked the word marijuana because 312 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:24.119 it has Mary in it. Mary married Janus. If you 313 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:29.039 will but also when I said if marijuana was legal, 314 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:33.960 and I started to explore if this were, you know, 315 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:38.480 acceptable for the last many years, I got criticized for 316 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:42.519 that too, because if you say, if you're not in 317 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:46.920 the present, that's some new age bs that people put forth. 318 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.440 If you're always in the if you're not in the present, 319 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.359 therefore that's bad. No, if you say, if you might 320 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.799 invent something, you might do something different, how can you 321 00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:59.240 proceed a new way if you don't. 322 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:02.000 Say if, then. 323 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:05.640 What was I like that? 324 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:07.720 I mean that that is that does make a good point. 325 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.799 I mean you'll never think outside the box. I think differently. 326 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:12.599 Yeah. 327 00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:21.559 Yeah. Another another trope is the idea of your truth. Oh, ethan, 328 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:24.720 that's a cute book with marijuana and the divine feminine. 329 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:29.839 That's your truth. No, it's not. I'm exploring. I'm trying 330 00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:33.400 to explore the truth. There is no your truth, right. 331 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.880 That's a misnomer to kind of ease people's feelings when 332 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:40.920 they find out that things aren't the way they want 333 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:48.359 them to be. Well, reality doesn't really care about our feelings. 334 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:56.640 Another you know, century long, many centuries long set of 335 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:01.039 manure is that women are bad love, women can't go 336 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:06.920 on the boat women this women that right, so uh, 337 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:12.519 I think it's important to understand what is it, what 338 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:17.960 is womanhood and the divine feminine right and and so 339 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:24.240 that's another another thing I explore. And Ma is uh 340 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:31.680 in Egyptian is short essentially for mat and Ma means 341 00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:39.000 divine subtle perception and mat is the feminine uh, goddess 342 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:44.920 of this energy. If you add to anything in ancient Egyptian, 343 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:51.880 it becomes feminine. So Ma is this divine feminine energy 344 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:59.680 that is about uh uh goodness and from where creation comes. 345 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:06.720 And judgment. She's divine judgment as well. She's one of 346 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:12.519 the original or far back Ma Ma gods that we 347 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:17.359 can find. Again. Marijuana has the MA tonation too, And 348 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:23.799 recently when Mario from Symbolic Studies was doing his most 349 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:30.079 excellent presentation on Venus, he got into the Ma tonation 350 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.759 as being archetypal of the feminine. And I wanted to say, yeah, yeah, 351 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:37.720 it's all about the weed, but I didn't want to 352 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.519 change the subject. But he's on it right, the the 353 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:47.960 matrix of creation, the divine feminine of Venus, and many 354 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.519 so many different iterations of her. We mention we mentioned 355 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:59.880 or rather Kipling are the Jungle Book creator put forth 356 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:07.359 the idea of Eve and Lilith, of course, and both 357 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:12.279 of them are really from out of or corresponding with 358 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:20.000 the tree. And so Lilith is almost in one some 359 00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:25.240 interpretation you might find she's this polarity of Ishtara is 360 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:32.359 an Anna, the Mesopotamian divine feminine, and they are a 361 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:37.319 tree is represented by a pole often and both of 362 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:45.240 them are synonymous with this idea ish Tar. We're not 363 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:51.720 sure on but ish Tar or and or Lilith might 364 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:57.440 have been presented with the claw talons, but we're definitely 365 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:04.960 associated with lions. That's one of the divine feminine animals 366 00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:10.279 or characteristics that come up, is a lion or lions, 367 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.480 not Judah, not not the masculine aspect that we might 368 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:21.799 associate it with, but actually the feminine originally. And so 369 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:27.400 there's the uh, let's see, let's go to let's go 370 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:33.519 to the next one. 371 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.799 And if I just jump, because this is in praise 372 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.160 of you. You said it. The thing about Lilith and 373 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.359 and Anna in like the least annoying that's not really praised, 374 00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:46.119 but the least annoying way I've ever heard it described. 375 00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:50.640 Because in the polarities, right, But it's true because most 376 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.400 people totally get it conflated. This is exactly how we 377 00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:58.319 understand it in Buddhism. She has different the concert, has 378 00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:02.880 different stages of her consciousness, so there are different polarities, 379 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.039 different faces that she can wear. So this is I 380 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:07.960 just want to praise you Ethan for saying I'd like 381 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.400 a real praise that. You know, you're the only one 382 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.039 who's really articulated like that, where I wasn't immediately like, 383 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.079 oh this is wrong or this isn't coblistically right. No, 384 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.359 this is actually the coblistically correct way to think of it. 385 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:25.480 It's in polarity, it's in a dialectical relationship with other 386 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:28.799 maybe elements of her. Because you can say that the 387 00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:32.720 ishtar figure depending on where you place her in the tree. 388 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.640 What I'll say green Tara because that's it's a similar 389 00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.119 endymological name, so I always say it. Just said because 390 00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.119 blue green Tara just said blue green. Okay, that totally 391 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.200 makes sense. And and she's mercy obviously, so you know, 392 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.279 the infinite expensa mercy. So she goes in perception that's 393 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.839 her really her thing, it's the third eye. So it's 394 00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:55.319 her looking at something and understanding what that thing is. 395 00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:58.400 So she can look at herself at that lower stage 396 00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.599 of conception, that kind of ground the Barbello figure, and 397 00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.599 she can understand that that is who she was, or 398 00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:09.359 that who can it is who she can be. But 399 00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:12.240 it's also a choice of consciousness. So I just want 400 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.759 to say I really love that, and I one hundred 401 00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.279