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<v Speaker 2>Right now, let's see what Chuck has on traffic from

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<v Speaker 2>the UCL Traffic Center.

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<v Speaker 3>Nearly sixty percent of Americans waiting on an organ transplanterer

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<v Speaker 3>today to be an organ donor. A couple of wrecks

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<v Speaker 3>to guests who is just finished all who ex floor exercises,

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<v Speaker 3>and it looks like yes, indeed, our next guest is

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<v Speaker 3>going to take the goal for political commentary. Here comes

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<v Speaker 3>the judge Chuck Ingram on fifty five k or see

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<v Speaker 3>the talk station, Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty three fiftybout karsee talk station. Of course, Chuck actually

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<v Speaker 1>got a right on that one. Welcome back your honor,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Ennapaul Tane. When the hels of Congressman Messy the best

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<v Speaker 1>one to two punching radio is always like to remind folks,

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<v Speaker 1>but everybody knows that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Thank you, Brian, and good morning, and thank you Chuck.

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<v Speaker 4>The gold for political commentary is for my predecessor as

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<v Speaker 4>a guest here, Boy, am I riveted when the two

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<v Speaker 4>of you speak to each other. And of course I've

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<v Speaker 4>voluntarily kept my mic on mute because it's Congressman Massy segment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not mine. One of these days we'll do the

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<v Speaker 2>joint one, Yes we will.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing he says is fascinating and quite frankly courageous

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<v Speaker 4>because there are very few members of Congress. There are

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<v Speaker 4>no members of Congress as devoted to preserve and protecting

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<v Speaker 4>and defending the Constitution as Congressman Thomas Massey.

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<v Speaker 1>Ay men to that, and of course you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful segue to your column which comes out tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>Colleague Schik Muhammad and the problem of torture. We have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this issue before, but your column does a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful job and just showing how fast and loose people

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to be when it comes to just eat.

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<v Speaker 1>They're bad people. I'm not gonna argue these guys in

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<v Speaker 1>Gitmo are are are angels and aren't worthy of some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of punishment. But you got to go through the

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<v Speaker 1>got to go through due process. But they have gone

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<v Speaker 1>through twists and contortions, you know, from the torture that

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<v Speaker 1>you we've we've talked about many times, to the venue situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's it's expedient.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just ignoring the law for the purpose of getting

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<v Speaker 1>a result you want without going through the appropriate channels.

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<v Speaker 4>And if they have gone through the appropriate channels, if

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<v Speaker 4>George W. Bush had not listened to Alberto Gonzalez, his

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<v Speaker 4>his then White House counsel and eventually as Attorney General

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<v Speaker 4>and same person that's trying to get to bomb Iran today,

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<v Speaker 4>Senator Lindsey Graham, If George W.

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<v Speaker 2>Bush had not listened to them.

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<v Speaker 4>And allowed these creeps to be tried in federal court

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<v Speaker 4>where the crimes were committed. That would be Alexandria, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 4>the Pentagon, New York City, Manhattan for the World Trade Towers,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't know where the venue is for Shanksburg, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 4>but they go have consolidated them all in one. The

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<v Speaker 4>trials would have been over by now, no torture admitted

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<v Speaker 4>in the federal courts, plenty of other evidence of their guilt.

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<v Speaker 4>They would have been tried, convicted, and either executed or

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<v Speaker 4>sentenced to Florence, Colorado, where al Chapo and people of

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<v Speaker 4>that ilk are. But instead they created this military tribunal

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<v Speaker 4>system because they wanted quick, rough justice quick.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been waiting for.

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<v Speaker 4>Their trials since two thousand and six, that's eighteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Now on the Verge trial, the government, the government says,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to talk settlement. We can't try this case.

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<v Speaker 4>Our lawyers can't defend torture. The CIA will go ballistic

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<v Speaker 4>if all this stuff comes out. We've got to settle

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<v Speaker 4>this case. They agree on a settlement, The defendants agree,

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<v Speaker 4>the prosecution agrees, the judge accepts the terms of the settlement,

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<v Speaker 4>defense Austin, not a lawyer and probably not familiar with

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<v Speaker 4>all the legal problems in the case that I've outlined

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<v Speaker 4>in my article, says we don't agree now under the

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<v Speaker 4>federal rules. As you know, once the court accepts the

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<v Speaker 4>guilty plea, that's it. Neither party can change their minds.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know what's going to happen next. Either

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<v Speaker 4>the guilty plea will be accepted over Secretary Austin's objection,

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<v Speaker 4>or we're going to have a trial that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>expose the worst behavior of the federal government in the

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<v Speaker 4>past twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's the first thing I thought of when the

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<v Speaker 1>plea agreement was reached, was you, because of the points

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<v Speaker 1>you've made before, torture is not allowed. You can't torture

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<v Speaker 1>some many exact confession out of him. That torture is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be thrown out. It would obviously have an

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<v Speaker 1>impact on a potential outcome from a jury who would

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<v Speaker 1>hear the evidence of torture. We would be made to

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<v Speaker 1>look bad, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other component of this, the retraction of the endeavor to

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<v Speaker 1>retract the plea agreement seemed to come on the heels

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<v Speaker 1>of people's demanding that this guy be put to death. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a fan of the death penalty because if

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<v Speaker 1>a state can take away life, I worry about that

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<v Speaker 1>because the state screws up all the time. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want the life and death decisions being in the hand

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<v Speaker 1>of a state, which regularly lies to us sometimes and

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<v Speaker 1>over the history of our country, is quite often put

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<v Speaker 1>up liars on the stand and corrupt prosecutors to present

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that isn't there, or withhold evidence from defendants that

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<v Speaker 1>might be exculpatory. We've heard that story before. It is

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<v Speaker 1>written in the law.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>But this demand for the death penalty when the guys

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what more could you hope to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the guy? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I agree with you. I understand the demand

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<v Speaker 4>for the death penalty. I'm against the death penalty. If

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<v Speaker 4>the government derives its powers from the consent of the government,

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<v Speaker 4>we don't have the authority to execute people that are

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<v Speaker 4>found guilty of crimes, and we can't therefore delegate that

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<v Speaker 4>power to the government. That's a philosophical argument. I understand

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<v Speaker 4>people who say, my God, you commit a murder in

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<v Speaker 4>cold blood in the streets, in a city, in a

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<v Speaker 4>state that has the death penalty, you can be executed.

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<v Speaker 4>These people killed three thousand people in them are not

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<v Speaker 4>going to execute them. Blame Lindsey Graham. Blame the people

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<v Speaker 4>that concocted this torture. Blame the people that prohibited the

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<v Speaker 4>removal of these defendants from Guantanoa Bay for any reason,

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<v Speaker 4>for trial, for sentence, or for execution.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that absurd that.

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<v Speaker 4>The Congress did that because Barack Obama threatened to remove

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<v Speaker 4>them under cover of darkness to the MCC the Metropolitan

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<v Speaker 4>Correstionalist Center in New York and dyte them, charge them

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<v Speaker 4>and try them there.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Republicans want reserves.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, they're too dangerous to be put in a jail

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<v Speaker 4>outside of Gitmo.

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<v Speaker 2>There's three of them. There are one hundred people that

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<v Speaker 2>run the jail. It costs five hundred and forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Million a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do they think they're kidding? I know?

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<v Speaker 1>And a president which has the worst of the worst

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst murderers, rapist, thieves, thugs. If they can

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<v Speaker 1>manage those guys, they can manage a couple of conspirators.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the other point you made in the article,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really worthy point. They created the military tribunal

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<v Speaker 1>because this, which is supposed to be for military combatants

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<v Speaker 1>and military related issues, this was non military. These were

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<v Speaker 1>not uniform combatants. They were conspirators. They directed the behavior

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<v Speaker 1>of those who flew the planes into the buildings. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a conspiracy. Now you can be held accountable for

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<v Speaker 1>the damage you do. You can be found guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>murder if you are a co conspirator, even though you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pull the trigger. But as you point out in

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<v Speaker 1>the article the Military Tribune, that's a legal issue that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't dealt with in these tribunals. It's a federal law.

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<v Speaker 4>Tribunals cannot try conspiracy cases. So again, Lindsey Graham Special.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to be picking on him.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, a Republican Congressional special.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, even though it's a military tribunal, they can try

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<v Speaker 4>civilian crimes and they'll follow the federal rules of criminal procedure.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if they're going.

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<v Speaker 4>To try civilian crimes and follow the federal rules of

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<v Speaker 4>criminal procedure, why isn't it a regular federal jury trial

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<v Speaker 4>before one judge. They've had four judges in this case.

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<v Speaker 4>They've had four teams of prosecutors. They've had two teams

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<v Speaker 4>of defense lawyers. The judge sitting on the motion to

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<v Speaker 4>dismiss the indictment because of all the tortured do you

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<v Speaker 4>know how many pages of documents are in that motion

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<v Speaker 4>And he's a brand new judge in the case, forty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand ages he has to read.

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<v Speaker 2>This is mind boggling.

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<v Speaker 4>The mess that they have created in the name of vengeance,

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<v Speaker 4>George w not justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you put an exclamation point on that when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on and the column comes out tonight, Colleague Sheik Muhammad,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with torture. You are laughing though and smiling

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<v Speaker 1>at the conclusion, which is as good as we can

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<v Speaker 1>hope for today given the subject matter. I always enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation, especially on the height.

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<v Speaker 4>Too, but today was a special treat being able to

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<v Speaker 4>listen to Congressman Massey. I'm so sorry for his loss,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm ecstatic that he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is still his same old self.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, I wanted to tip my hat to him for

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<v Speaker 4>not showing up when Nettie, who spoke what a despicable,

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<v Speaker 4>disgraceful thing. That was Netting, who had an audience he

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<v Speaker 4>bought and paid for. Thomas Massey was not there because

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<v Speaker 4>he's not bought and paid for.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll get this three way conversation that we had

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<v Speaker 1>planned before his wife's passing back on board at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>I know my producer work with your people in Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Massy's people to make that happen, and I am really

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to that day as well. Judging and Napolitano

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<v Speaker 1>find him online and judging Freedom. Who you talking to today?

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<v Speaker 4>I am talking to Phil Giraldi XCIA and the investigative

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<v Speaker 4>journalist to Aaron Mate, who has some very interesting observations.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how he knows this about the private

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<v Speaker 4>conversation between Joe Biden and Benjamin nettinga who two days ago,

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<v Speaker 4>in which Joe accused Biebe of lying to him, and

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<v Speaker 4>he did so in very very colorful, blue collar Scranton language.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Anxious to hear that one find a judging Freedom, look

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<v Speaker 1>at Facebook and YouTube and just search online generally, that

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<v Speaker 1>and judging Paull the time you will find him judge

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<v Speaker 1>until next Wednesday. God bless you, sir pleasure having you

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<v Speaker 1>on the program as all.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay you Brian, thank you all the best coming up in.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight forty four. If you have KRCY talk station cover sence,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a number to call. Cover. Since the John Roman

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<v Speaker 1>and the team will take great care of you, why

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<v Speaker 1>would you do it? Well, you want to pay less

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<v Speaker 1>for medical insurance and you want better coverage, don't we all? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what John and the team are all about. They

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<v Speaker 1>work with hundreds of insurance companies, thousands of policies, but

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<v Speaker 1>they work for you. It's a fiduciary like relationship like

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<v Speaker 1>you have with your financial planner. They have your best

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<v Speaker 1>interest in mind. So what they do is do an

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<v Speaker 1>individual analysis of every single one of their clients. Like

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<v Speaker 1>bombacare pan ninety five hundred dollars out of pocket. They

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<v Speaker 1>and put themselves at peril. Could file for bankruptcy as

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<v Speaker 1>a consequence of that. No, he can get them all insured.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks at each of them individually, puts a package

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<v Speaker 1>together with dollar one coverage for less money. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds amazing and impossible. Trust me, he does this

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<v Speaker 1>every single day. That's why I say it's worth a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes a year time to see if he can

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<v Speaker 1>save you all kinds of money monthly, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>put dollar one coverage in the mix. Call him up.

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