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Speaker 1: We've got Daredevil episode for Gloves Off. When you see
Speaker 1: a title like this and you open with the Marvel
Speaker 1: TV logo in Blue Billy Joel's New York State of Mind,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, oh, I love
Speaker 1: some good Billy Joels.
Speaker 2: This is going to grade.
Speaker 1: And then you see Benjamin Poindexter living his best life.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, some serious stuff is going to
Speaker 1: go down. And Aaron's sitting in the background reading kind
Speaker 1: of half paying attention, and she's just like, what's getting
Speaker 1: ready to happen?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: It says some serious stuff is about to go down.
Speaker 1: That was the only thing I was doing. I was
Speaker 1: just like sitting there, just anticipating that moment. But you
Speaker 1: know when that opened like that, what did you think
Speaker 1: of just how this episode opened with, you know, we
Speaker 1: knew something was gonna be happening for Trali. This was
Speaker 1: not necessarily as soon as we saw that, I knew
Speaker 1: what was getting ready to happen. But man, I wanted
Speaker 1: him to do something with that cherry. I was hoping
Speaker 1: he was going to do something cool with that cherry.
Speaker 1: But man, he did a lot of other stuff.
Speaker 3: You know what, this was a very Bullseeyzed centric episode
Speaker 3: and I'm absolutely here for their use of this character
Speaker 3: in this episode was just amazing. Everything from you know,
Speaker 3: seeing him come back with his fractured mind, the filling
Speaker 3: of of you know, his quote unquote redemption arc and
Speaker 3: yeah it's man from the moment again. Yeah, you saw
Speaker 3: that blue marble logo and then you go to him
Speaker 3: just living life and you know, feeding the cat next
Speaker 3: door and everything else and being told how much of
Speaker 3: a good young man he is. Yeah, it was just
Speaker 3: it was awesome.
Speaker 2: I know he's feeding that, he's feeding that cat like
Speaker 2: a whole egg. That's a lot of cholesterol.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was an egg on a piece
Speaker 3: of toast. Like he's just like cat's getting whole meals out.
Speaker 2: Here, exactly. He's eating better than some people on the street.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so it.
Speaker 1: He briefly interacts the ly neighbor, you say, you know,
Speaker 1: she calls him Tony for whatever reason. So goes goes
Speaker 1: to the diner or does banana milkshake. He's got that
Speaker 1: sinister look, that creepy look, and you know, while observe
Speaker 1: the space, he decides to make a phone call to
Speaker 1: the Anti Vigilante Task Force and then he says, I
Speaker 1: just saw Frank Castle. Oh my god, Like he's got
Speaker 1: like this very monitor and saying, oh my god, he's
Speaker 1: got a gun. Oh no, don't do that, and just
Speaker 1: hangs up and continues eating his banana milkshake and just
Speaker 1: doing it. Police going on. He's just waiting for it,
Speaker 1: and I'm watching this from the hold their hand round
Speaker 1: that agent knows exactly who he is. Dak Decks acts
Speaker 1: first and uses a straw to launch a toothpick directly
Speaker 1: into agent's faith. I think his eye hit it in
Speaker 1: and from then on it is a outright massacre of
Speaker 1: the anti vigil anti task force.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he takes them out. I want to come back
Speaker 3: for a minute because it's so funny. Like once he
Speaker 3: goes into the dinner, he sits there, you can tell
Speaker 3: that this is a real crappy diner. Like, I don't
Speaker 3: know why they have lobster along with breakfast foods and
Speaker 3: everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even even like Aaron noticed, Hi, why is there
Speaker 1: lobster and a diner? I said, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I wouldn't. I'm not saying it would be the
Speaker 1: first thing I'd earned the menu. I might do it,
Speaker 1: but again, again, you are marriage to someone who did
Speaker 1: eat does he from an occasion airport sushi?
Speaker 2: I do it? Yeah, and I still survive guys.
Speaker 3: So like and then he asked, you know what, what
Speaker 3: is the thing that you're most known for? And again
Speaker 3: I'm thinking you just walking to a random New York
Speaker 3: diner with a lobster, that's gonna be it there?
Speaker 2: Like Nope, like a lobster bisk.
Speaker 3: I will take the banana milkshake. And he's just sitting
Speaker 3: there going about his lovely little day before making his
Speaker 3: phone call, and it's just, yeah, he's just so calm
Speaker 3: through all this. He knows exactly what he's about to
Speaker 3: do with this task force.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally you know, that was that threw me.
Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing up that lobster that that was crazy.
Speaker 1: And he ends up using the lobster claude to take
Speaker 1: down some some of the task forces.
Speaker 2: I mean, he just out. I mean, that's what you're
Speaker 2: watching for.
Speaker 1: Not because it's cool to see and you'll neither one
Speaker 1: of us like to see people getting massacred, but one
Speaker 1: it's the anti vigilanti task force. So there are a
Speaker 1: bunch there are a bunch of Cretans, and and just
Speaker 1: the interesting ways that he decides to go after them,
Speaker 1: and and you know, Goble, and.
Speaker 2: This is where we act. Is this the first time
Speaker 2: we have heard him referred to as Bullseye in the public.
Speaker 3: I believe. So I think this is the first time.
Speaker 2: We can officially call him Bullseye.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, you know, he briefly interacts with the man sitting
Speaker 1: with a small dog, making comments about animals and restaurants,
Speaker 1: saying it's disgusting. H When one of the injury just
Speaker 1: tried to warn the other of a Raio, Decks silences
Speaker 1: him in epics fashion before leaving. Dex uses the sauce
Speaker 1: to draw the pattern, leaving his calling card of circles
Speaker 1: within the circle a bullseye as it were, just walks
Speaker 1: out and just like New York, a massacre has occurred
Speaker 1: in there in the days, just people just going about
Speaker 1: their day. But he never killed any of the innocence there.
Speaker 3: Yes, the guy with the dog in the dinery tells
Speaker 3: him it's unsanitary. Yeah, and he definitely looks him up
Speaker 3: and down. But yeah, I killed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it is the first time it's
Speaker 1: called the bullsye, but definitely if it has. This seemed
Speaker 1: to be very very overt saying, you know, bulls eye
Speaker 1: in this one. Yeah, I think old Decks, old ex
Speaker 1: would would have killed the guy with the dog, you know,
Speaker 1: for just being an unsanitary person. But who knows. This
Speaker 1: is a different kind of bulls eye. We're get dealing
Speaker 1: with Randon, one of you think sees the hero of
Speaker 1: his own story. Yeah, so elsewhere Karen Film's testimony from
Speaker 1: the UH from souliet Eliyah, who confirmed she was arrested
Speaker 1: by the Task Force and identified her herself as one
Speaker 1: of the missing uh Jack. Jack is still there preparing
Speaker 1: to leave, saying, you know, I've done my time, I'm
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta.
Speaker 1: Go, and tells Matt he needs to disappear for months
Speaker 1: and after being months of captivity, but before he leaves, Dake,
Speaker 1: here's a number to a bank account. Basically, it's unlimited wealth.
Speaker 1: You know, do what you need with it. It's like
Speaker 1: it's there's no there's no end in sight. So Jack
Speaker 1: is a very wealthy man. He portrays it and.
Speaker 2: And has it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he even mentions during the trial in
Speaker 3: the previous episode that he felt like part of the
Speaker 3: reason why he was on trial is so that once
Speaker 3: this is over with, they can seize his assets of beforefeiture,
Speaker 3: you know, once he is incarcerated. So with this, he
Speaker 3: still has some some side accounts, as you would expect
Speaker 3: from someone of his wealth and his stature, and he
Speaker 3: was able to pass a little bit long to the
Speaker 3: underground forces that Matt hass yep.
Speaker 1: So, while they were grouping, a man named Christophe Sava arrives,
Speaker 1: identifying himself as the first mate of the Northern Star,
Speaker 1: which has been destroyed. He explains that ship was transporting
Speaker 1: illegal weapons and operating under the protection tie to someone
Speaker 1: referred to as the Kingpin. He confirms that the operation
Speaker 1: bypassed normal regulation is big surprise there. Recognizing the importance
Speaker 1: of his testimony, Matt and Karen decide to involve Kirsten
Speaker 1: McDuffie to formalize his statements legally, because once they're admitted
Speaker 1: as evidence, then they're going to try to take down
Speaker 1: the Kingpin and he can't have anywhere to hide. Not
Speaker 1: so fast, you know, I love the idea, but we've
Speaker 1: seen this happen before where they think they got him in.
Speaker 1: Things ain't gonna work out.
Speaker 3: I mean, good on you for trying to follow the
Speaker 3: law and work within the confine of legality and what
Speaker 3: you should be doing. But again, you're dealing with the
Speaker 3: king Pin. He's this isn't one of those let's go
Speaker 3: step by step with this.
Speaker 1: So at the same time, Angela del Toro steps up,
Speaker 1: insisting on helping them.
Speaker 2: You know, she trying. I'm new right, I'm new white Tiger.
Speaker 2: I got I gotta do this.
Speaker 1: I gotta earn my keep, I gotta avenge my my,
Speaker 1: my uncle's death. And so Karen and trust her with
Speaker 1: the crucial SD card containing the task force data.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a lot of trust there. I don't
Speaker 2: know if she backed it up or not. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Angela then passes the SDE car to a trusted contact
Speaker 1: at a food truck. I don't know who this cat is.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you trusts him. First time I've ever seen him.
Speaker 3: He seemed a little bit shifty when she first met him,
Speaker 3: and he's making fun of her, and she's like, no,
Speaker 3: I need you to take this seriously. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: is this the guy you really want to trust your
Speaker 3: entire plan to? Just random bro?
Speaker 1: And and you know, it's like this underground resistance is
Speaker 1: going on. So yeah, I mean that's how it is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it seems it's.
Speaker 2: Just I call because plot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we didn't move this as long as
Speaker 1: do this to show like this underground network of connections.
Speaker 1: So later that night, outside the boxing event at Foggle's gym,
Speaker 1: the contact approaches the journalist BB when she is where
Speaker 1: while she's in line, pretending.
Speaker 2: To ask for a photo.
Speaker 1: He discreetly slips the SD card into her pocket, ensuring
Speaker 1: the evidence reaches the press without drawing attention. Now, I
Speaker 1: kind of went back and forth on this scene and
Speaker 1: I was like, did she notice?
Speaker 2: Did she not notice? Was it too subtle? Did she
Speaker 2: see the SD card at any point? Does she know
Speaker 2: it's even there?
Speaker 3: I felt on my second watch, I'm like, Okay, she
Speaker 3: noticed something happened, But also, this is New York and
Speaker 3: you don't know this guy. What's to say you weren't
Speaker 3: getting pickpocketed at this moment? Like you felt something, but
Speaker 3: what's it like? She really played that off for not
Speaker 3: knowing this man or what the interaction was going to be.
Speaker 1: So at the same time, Fiscus dealing with an increasing
Speaker 1: pressure and then mister Charles shows up and confronts him
Speaker 1: about the compromise situation at Red Hook, questioning his ability
Speaker 1: to deliver weapons as promised. The conversation gets tenser and tenser,
Speaker 1: with both sides asserting control of the operation over the other.
Speaker 1: Fisk consists that the shipment will proceed under his well
Speaker 1: before that, you know, mister Charles's got two men. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I think you need to back down. I really think
Speaker 1: you need to back down. And then uh, he gets
Speaker 1: really tense, and then Buck takes his gun out and
Speaker 1: blows them both away.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, bad move on mister Charles part letting Buck
Speaker 3: lower his hands. He was quick on the draw exactly.
Speaker 1: And then at the point this says Shipment's going to
Speaker 1: proceed on his terms, and he refreezes to be threatened
Speaker 1: by mister Charles. So Missus Charles came off as a
Speaker 1: little in the beginning, came off as a little bit
Speaker 1: of you know, I got all the cards, and this
Speaker 1: time this showed him up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not want to be in this dark
Speaker 3: quarantine room with Fisk and his associates now and it's
Speaker 3: it's just you. So you may be the fast talking,
Speaker 3: you may have all the connections, but man, you are
Speaker 3: playing a dangerous game.
Speaker 1: So at the same around, at the same time, we
Speaker 1: got Vanessa meeting with Governor McCaffrey, and during this conversation,
Speaker 1: the government makes it very clear that she does not
Speaker 1: trust this use of power. She would rather shut him down,
Speaker 1: but she's open to supporting him if stability is maintained.
Speaker 1: That stability comes from I will support Mayor Fist and
Speaker 1: Missus Fisk, and Vanessa reassures hers that as someone who's
Speaker 1: capable of influencing Fish and keeping his actions in check.
Speaker 1: By the end of the meeting, the Governor indicates that
Speaker 1: she's willing to support both Fisk and Vanessa for now.
Speaker 1: Like I understand, and Vanessa's been a very interesting character
Speaker 1: to evolve into what she became, you know, basically running
Speaker 1: this empire while Fisk was in jail. But I don't
Speaker 1: know how much to control she's really altered. I controlled him,
Speaker 1: like she got him to go back to his old ways.
Speaker 1: I don't ever have ever seen her reining him in
Speaker 1: when he's gone back to his old ways. You know,
Speaker 1: she's influenced him to go back. I don't know if
Speaker 1: she hasn't really shown me in the show up to
Speaker 1: this point, since he's gone he broke bad again that
Speaker 1: she can't control him. I don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it is she has shown that she
Speaker 3: can be a calming presence, but I wouldn't necessarily call
Speaker 3: that control. Yes, you are calming presence. Yes, he he
Speaker 3: does things a little bit deep different when he has
Speaker 3: around you, But I wouldn't say that you full on
Speaker 3: control him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a line. I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I buy that.
Speaker 1: So Matt investigates the diner attack like, he takes the
Speaker 1: task force officers uniform and goes in there and kind
Speaker 1: of pulls rank and kind of interesting seeing him, you know,
Speaker 1: be an anti vigil aantic task force. But there he
Speaker 1: finds a religious token which leads him to the church
Speaker 1: from his past. Speaking to the seminarian, Matt learns that
Speaker 1: a man matching Dex's description had been there recently. The
Speaker 1: seminarian reveals that the man said he wakes up every
Speaker 1: morning to the sound of the church bells and watches
Speaker 1: them open the doors in the morning, giving that enough
Speaker 1: there to figure out where Dex is living. And Matt
Speaker 1: tracks him to his apartment and they start, as you
Speaker 1: like to say, David, they start throwing hands.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, this is one thing that got me. I know,
Speaker 3: Matt's hearing is incredible, but I think this is the
Speaker 3: first time we've ever seen him listen down the block,
Speaker 3: through a building and up some steps. I mean, this
Speaker 3: was Superman levels of hearing right now. Good on you.
Speaker 3: But you've got the sounds of the city going on
Speaker 3: and everything else. That was that's more than just you
Speaker 3: hear somebody coming around the corner. That that was. That
Speaker 3: was some goodness to pinpoint. Yeah, No, he's two blocks away.
Speaker 3: He's in this apartment building. He's on the second floor,
Speaker 3: all this other stuff. Yeah, but yeah. He arrives at
Speaker 3: there and they have a cool moment. Dexa's is walking in,
Speaker 3: he's putting his headphones on, he's about to get his
Speaker 3: favorite CD ready when you see him chuck it like
Speaker 3: chuck it like Captain America. And then after that, you
Speaker 3: know they they block it and then just go straight
Speaker 3: hands back and forth and.
Speaker 1: Knocks that door down and he starts going at it
Speaker 1: at that point, just whooping tail left and right, destroying
Speaker 1: the apartment going out there, and during the confrontation, Bullseye
Speaker 1: claims he is trying to fix things and suggests that
Speaker 1: killing Fist would balance the scales. He references past events
Speaker 1: involving matches and Froggy and match like, don't know, you
Speaker 1: don't get to do that.
Speaker 3: You're looking I don't f you up right now? Don't
Speaker 3: you say that name to do that?
Speaker 2: Don't you do that?
Speaker 1: We go throw hands again, and this time I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put you down permanently. You know he was one step away.
Speaker 1: I didn't did they did?
Speaker 2: Matt drop a lot of f bombs this episode, I couldn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't. It was not as many as the last episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the situation.
Speaker 1: Gets even more dangerous when Dex takes the elderly gentleman
Speaker 1: hostage at gunpoint. Be tries to de escalate, insisting he
Speaker 1: will not let Dex carry out his plan. Deck's ultimate
Speaker 1: escapes by throwing objects to create an opening, stealing a motorcycle,
Speaker 1: and then fleeing before Macus top him. He kept them
Speaker 1: saying one good deed, one good deed, one good Deed's
Speaker 1: gonna erase everything you've done, the homicidal, sociopathic maniac that
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did find it funny. So when ms mothers
Speaker 3: first bust in, she's like, get away from my Tony.
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Leave my Tony alone? And then
Speaker 3: by the end of it, she's cussing out Pullsy as
Speaker 3: he drops her from having held her hostage and is
Speaker 3: running out the door. So wtf, bro, I had your back.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, why is he calling her Tony yet? Obviously,
Speaker 1: and Ali's like, oh Jesus Dale's I never even said
Speaker 1: my name's Tony. Maybe it was just her confusion at
Speaker 1: that point, and he just went along with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, soit hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a good fight.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I'd say ranked, you know, a little bit
Speaker 1: towards the bottom right now, but still cool. The episode
Speaker 1: builds towards the public match at Foggle's gym, organized as
Speaker 1: part of this Born Again campaign. Role credits the event
Speaker 1: doubles as a trap not just for Data Devil, but
Speaker 1: for specifically for Bullseye. Now, Kingpin had told Vanessa do
Speaker 1: not come to this because this was his plan to
Speaker 1: draw them both out and take them both down. He
Speaker 1: doesn't want Vanessa there because he knows Bullseye's going after her.
Speaker 1: So as the fight begins, to Task Force agents secure
Speaker 1: the entire area, officers positioned inside the venue. Meanwhile, that
Speaker 1: Christofi is placed under US Marshall protection for witness protection
Speaker 1: transport in safety, but the plant collapses when Buck intercepts
Speaker 1: the convoy and shoots him and the guards, eliminating the
Speaker 1: key witness before he can exposes fist operation. Now that
Speaker 1: says to me, there's a mole in the resistance. Yep,
Speaker 1: the question is who is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is more than a chess game that they're
Speaker 3: getting information from from somewhere to know. Okay, if we
Speaker 3: do this, this is gonna happen. This is more than
Speaker 3: just I'm in my opponent's mind. This is you. You
Speaker 3: have a heads up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that's gonna be another plot thread
Speaker 1: that we're gonna start unraveling soon.
Speaker 2: It's back at the gym.
Speaker 1: Fisk is in the fight and he just like there
Speaker 1: was a little bit of the back and forth there,
Speaker 1: but Fist then starts dominating it, brutally knocking out his opponent,
Speaker 1: turning the match into a public display a based brutality
Speaker 1: and power that he wields. The moment is violently interrupted
Speaker 1: when Bullseye shows up and launches an attack and continues
Speaker 1: to take down the Vigilante task.
Speaker 2: Force as people are fleeing.
Speaker 1: You three rowing sharp objects, hitting multiple Task Force members.
Speaker 1: I do like our geek Verse brethren when they kept
Speaker 1: on on their reviews saying.
Speaker 2: The ricochet ricochet rickashet, he can't miss.
Speaker 1: He does it with style, and they scrambled the public
Speaker 1: scrambling to escape. You know, BB's with.
Speaker 2: Blake. They're there now.
Speaker 1: This is the thing, and I only got to see
Speaker 1: it once. Did Bbe leave the coat behind?
Speaker 3: You know what? I do not know, and I've seen
Speaker 3: the episode twice and I wasn't that is a point
Speaker 3: that I was not focusing on. But now I gotta
Speaker 3: I gotta go back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, may have to see if you can pull it
Speaker 1: up just to that sequence and see at the end,
Speaker 1: did she did she leave with her coat? Because I
Speaker 1: think if she did, one of two things are gonna
Speaker 1: happen bad editing and it's never acknowledged and they don't
Speaker 1: expect us to go, or it is going to become
Speaker 1: a plot. I'd like to think a little bit better
Speaker 1: that if she did leave it behind it it's going
Speaker 1: to it's going to cause some problems. So but as
Speaker 1: you look, when you know, Venessa does show up before
Speaker 1: Bullseye comes in, she comes into the ring, kisses them
Speaker 1: and she's like, what are you doing here? He's like,
Speaker 1: just kiss me to go with this, And that's when
Speaker 1: bullsey comes in acts, you know, starts killing everyone.
Speaker 2: Then he takes a moment.
Speaker 1: He grabs this kind of object, you know, crystal or
Speaker 1: something like that, commemorating Fisk. He throws it, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: replica of the city, throws it to Vanessa and Kingpin
Speaker 1: sees it, takes the belt that he won and and
Speaker 1: he gets ready to block it. Vanessa draws a gun
Speaker 1: shoots Bullseye. This to flex the object and with the
Speaker 1: championship belt to protect her. Two agents step in front
Speaker 1: of Fisk with their weapons, but Bullseye continues to perhap
Speaker 1: precise knocking them down to the thrown objects. This grabs
Speaker 1: a gun, aims at a Bullseye, but Daredevil then suddenly
Speaker 1: comes in, knocks the gun out, grabs Bullseye, and crashes
Speaker 1: through the window. Bullseye gets up, bleeds down the street,
Speaker 1: Daredevil's following after him, leaving the agents to serve the wreckage.
Speaker 2: Neither of them are in sight.
Speaker 1: It ends in chaos, but as Fisk is trying to
Speaker 1: get to Vanessa, who's lying on the floor, bloods trickling
Speaker 1: down her head. There is a shard of glass in
Speaker 1: her temple that is part of the broken shard that
Speaker 1: Fisk hit broken apart. And ladies and gentlemen, what did
Speaker 1: I say last week? Vanessa is going to die inadvertently
Speaker 1: caused by Wilson Fisk boom fact yep, I just thought.
Speaker 1: I did not think that it was gonna happen this quickly.
Speaker 1: But man, she she gone, she gone? Uh BB does
Speaker 1: have the coat. It is tucked under, so like you
Speaker 1: really have to look. But yes, BB does have the coat.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Yeah, to your point that that whole
Speaker 3: scene and then her showing up in the white dress.
Speaker 3: Now she's been wearing red for the last two seasons,
Speaker 3: and then for her to show up in this all white,
Speaker 3: just flowing with him, I was just like, Oh, that's
Speaker 3: not good. That's that's not.
Speaker 2: Good, especially if it's after Labor Day.
Speaker 3: Come on, And yeah, she takes it to the temple
Speaker 3: and yeah, you know what his actions have calls what
Speaker 3: we can only presume is her death. Because I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know how you're following that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, I did. Like I said, I thought
Speaker 1: it was more towards Fernandez season thing. But man with
Speaker 1: his one to control him is now gone. This is
Speaker 1: where Fisk is gonna lose it. And he was already
Speaker 1: starting to lose a little bit of the control he
Speaker 1: thinks he has, but now that he has no no
Speaker 1: one to control, he's gonna blame Daredevil even more. He's
Speaker 1: gonna blame Bullseye. He is gonna throw a caution, There
Speaker 1: is nothing for him. He is going to go nuts
Speaker 1: with power, and this is where we see probably the
Speaker 1: beginning of the end for fist control of New York
Speaker 1: because he's gonna go too far in the city, is
Speaker 1: going to not go for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, you know, not having that. Again,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that she controls him. She it's not this,
Speaker 3: you know, I jump you say how high? But it
Speaker 3: is a She is the guiding force that definitely keeps
Speaker 3: him more subdued and keeps him more If you thought
Speaker 3: that he was going power crazy and vigilant before, now
Speaker 3: he is going to tear the city up after this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we are now at the halfway point of the
Speaker 1: of the of the season. So again, very I think
Speaker 1: definitely the strongest episode.
Speaker 3: To date, highest rated episode.
Speaker 1: Yep, highest rated episode. So from what we've heard from
Speaker 1: those who have seen it, including friends of friends of mine,
Speaker 1: this is it's not gonna let go like this was.
Speaker 1: This was the turning point episode.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah so but yeah, so we will see what
Speaker 1: happens next week with episode five, and we're gonna take
Speaker 1: our first ad break before we head into the news
Speaker 1: and our trailer breakdown. So, ladies and gentlemen, if these
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Speaker 1: And we are back, all right, So we let us
Speaker 1: break down this amazingly awesome trailer. Teaser trailer. Excuse me
Speaker 1: because this is this is a true definition of a
Speaker 1: teaser trailer for a special presentation The Punisher One Last Kill.
Speaker 1: And as I watched this, I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: want to see this in theaters. Yeah, all right, So
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be full screen, but we're gonna be playing,
Speaker 1: playing the sound. We'll stop at different points. There's not
Speaker 1: too much going on, but man, now this we've got confirmation.
Speaker 1: This is after he escapes. Correct. Yeah, so you hear
Speaker 1: someone say, hey, Frank, he's he His hair is long,
Speaker 1: his beard is even longer, and someone's asking me, hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing, brother? So careful television.
Speaker 2: We get in New York.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we see him sitting alone at a moment
Speaker 1: in a chair in an empty apartment, and we see
Speaker 1: him nowhere, no one's there, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's got these soldiers suddenly appear. And this is a
Speaker 1: big theme. Where the man is talking is from Frank's
Speaker 1: former unit. He is losing touch with reality. He is
Speaker 1: this is what This has happened a Frank many times
Speaker 1: in the comics. This has happened a bunch of times
Speaker 1: in the series. But this looks like he has hit
Speaker 1: a breaking point right now. Yeah, so living in something,
Speaker 1: seeing a takedown.
Speaker 3: And we see uh images of Curtis.
Speaker 1: Yep, Curtis is there, but gone in reality. You know,
Speaker 1: he's talking to ghosts. He's with his wife at the
Speaker 1: at the graveside with his daughter.
Speaker 2: Gotta love that. Basically shirtless walking around with a military weapon.
Speaker 3: And his board of people that he's he's knocked off.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, remind you a little taxi driver esque.
Speaker 1: Yeah, casoline coming through the door. Oh my, so this
Speaker 1: may less than a month away. See him walking through
Speaker 1: some chaotic streets.
Speaker 2: Here we go. He will lose trying to find peace.
Speaker 2: He's gonna lose it.
Speaker 1: He's taking down a whole bunch of people coming after him,
Speaker 1: So we don't know we we don't know where he is.
Speaker 1: Some reason, I'm kind of thinking he's not in the US.
Speaker 1: I just have this thing, I don't think he's I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's in the US. A lot more
Speaker 1: chaos in the streets than I would I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're really showcasing the amount of action and violence that
Speaker 1: the show's gonna have.
Speaker 2: I mean, this presentation's gonna have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does a whole man off of building. They
Speaker 3: show him shooting people in the head. I'm like that,
Speaker 3: this is pretty graphic, even for a trailer.
Speaker 2: Gotta love it.
Speaker 1: That symbols there front and center looking strong. I'm sure
Speaker 1: one last kill bam. May twelve, the day the week
Speaker 1: after Daredevil episode Uh, the final episode of the season premieeres.
Speaker 2: So that's a great eight.
Speaker 1: There's your there's your secret episode, there's your finale. You know.
Speaker 2: So all in all, what do you think about that teaser?
Speaker 3: That that teaser was so marvelous? Again, was not expecting
Speaker 3: this to drop, but man, when I first watched it,
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh my god, this this is
Speaker 3: pure Frank the yell, the violence, everything, I'm like, Yep,
Speaker 3: he's he's back on, and it's giving me more and
Speaker 3: more faith as they start to bring back, you know,
Speaker 3: other characters and things like that, Like, you guys are
Speaker 3: doing these characters justice. You're not bringing back Netflix characters
Speaker 3: just to do it like that. There's thought process and
Speaker 3: care behind this, and I know John Burnhal really cares
Speaker 3: about the character, So I'm excited to see this greediness.
Speaker 3: I know we're gonna get a toned down version in
Speaker 3: Spider Man, but we're getting some pure greediness right now.
Speaker 2: And you know this, I'm really hoping.
Speaker 1: That it's not gonna be another Oh Heroes, another secret
Speaker 1: person that was you know, tied to his family's death.
Speaker 1: We've done that, let's move on from that. But it's
Speaker 1: also another thing that it looks to be another trope
Speaker 1: where he gets attached to someone that reminds him of
Speaker 1: his family, in this.
Speaker 2: Case his daughter. It seems to be this girl that's
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: He seems to kind of equate her as a surrogate
Speaker 1: replacement for his own daughter that was killed. I know
Speaker 1: this defines Frank, but it's it's very cliche for the character,
Speaker 1: you know, So I'm very curious about who's gonna be fighting.
Speaker 1: Why he's fighting isn't basically another one of those Frank
Speaker 1: got involved in something he should have just walked away from.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was totally like it.
Speaker 1: I Like I said, it's hitting all the buttons that
Speaker 1: I want to see in a Punisher movie or a
Speaker 1: special presentation in this case. But I'm hoping they're not
Speaker 1: going back to the well and hopefully expand upon the character.
Speaker 1: But I mean, this was not only executive produced by
Speaker 1: John burnehal but he's also co written by him.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Again, he has a very strong attachment to this character,
Speaker 1: very protective of the character, and he has not disappointed me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this character reminds me of the same thing that
Speaker 3: people say about the character of Jack richro Man. This
Speaker 3: is just a guy who keeps saying he wants to
Speaker 3: be left alone, who keeps finding himself wrapped up in something.
Speaker 1: Just when he think he's out, they pull him back in.
Speaker 1: He's Michael Coleone, all right. So moving on from that,
Speaker 1: the news item that hit this week was entitled new
Speaker 1: X Men movie officially hires creators of two of TV's
Speaker 1: greatest series to rewrite the script. So Jack Schreyers work
Speaker 1: on the X Men as far from done, though he's
Speaker 1: confirmed from to direct New Marvel's New x Mens. This
Speaker 1: is coming from I believe Collider as an exclusive. He
Speaker 1: you know, details about the projects, such as casting the
Speaker 1: plot are kept under reps. But there is a certain
Speaker 1: scooper that is dropping some some possible ideas of people
Speaker 1: who are being eyed to or possibly cast as the
Speaker 1: X Men. So be careful out there as you do this.
Speaker 1: But Collider, Steve the Collider is Steve Wan.
Speaker 2: Trump caught up with Schreier to chat about.
Speaker 1: The second season of Beef, the hit Netflix series which
Speaker 1: Schreier directs, and it was asked where they're standing on
Speaker 1: the X Men development reboot.
Speaker 2: He said, We're still developing. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the exciting things that's that's tying into the
Speaker 1: Beef is that Sonny Lee Sung Jean and Joanna Calo
Speaker 1: both worked on this season obviously, I mean Beef is
Speaker 1: Sonny show, and Johanna worked on the season as well,
Speaker 1: and we work together on season one of Beef and
Speaker 1: on Thunderbolts. They have come in and are working on
Speaker 1: a draft right now, which is really exciting to be
Speaker 1: able to put that group together again. So Shreier referenced
Speaker 1: Carlo as a writer on Beef season two. However, that's
Speaker 1: not accurate. She wrote on season one, and s Lee
Speaker 1: and Kylo worked together on Thunderbolts. So it's official, Lee
Speaker 1: song Jen and the Bear Scribe our coach show runner
Speaker 1: Johanna Calo are rewriting The X Men and Shift. So
Speaker 1: screenwriter Michael Leslie, also known for The Hunger Games, was
Speaker 1: the original first one, and we both said when that
Speaker 1: story came out, that's nice they got him, not really known.
Speaker 1: There will be a rewrite, and it will be very
Speaker 1: interesting to see if we ever see, like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: was what was Leslie's script before the rewrite? Did anything survive?
Speaker 1: Because a rewrite doesn't necessarily mean they could legitimately rewrite
Speaker 1: the entire thing, And the only thing that is the
Speaker 1: same thing is that it had X Men in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you may have a mandate from the studio that
Speaker 3: you have to use these certain X men and that's
Speaker 3: the only thing that remains the same. Where it could
Speaker 3: be like, well, you had a great premise and you
Speaker 3: had this and that it just wasn't cohesive. So we
Speaker 3: went back and touched up some things to you know,
Speaker 3: make the plot run more together, so it could be
Speaker 3: anything I'd be interested to see. After everything is said
Speaker 3: and done, you know there's going to be your interviews
Speaker 3: where you're gonna hear, well, the original pitch was this,
Speaker 3: and that's what morphed into whatever we get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he continued in saying. Schreyer continued saying, when you
Speaker 1: go back and read X Men comics, there's ideology but
Speaker 1: also an interpersonal drama, almost a soap opera quality, having
Speaker 1: writers who understand both how to drive ideology from personal stakes.
Speaker 1: If we get that right, that's what will feel the
Speaker 1: most honest to what X Men can be. When it
Speaker 1: comes down to the traditional Marvel secrecy, Schreyer is keeping
Speaker 1: those as tight liped as you'd expect someone working on
Speaker 1: a high profile and cu project will film a little
Speaker 1: black box and never leave. But seriously, the studio has
Speaker 1: experience with this. We've talked about it. But what I
Speaker 1: can't say anymore. So again, X Men's script is coming along,
Speaker 1: It is moving along, and again new writers come on board.
Speaker 1: Doesn't say anything that Leslie did was bad, doesn't say
Speaker 1: has everything he did was good? It was enough for
Speaker 1: them to say, all right, I want to see what
Speaker 1: they do to this, you know, Yeah, and it's the life.
Speaker 2: That's what you have to live with. So any more
Speaker 2: thoughts on that, David.
Speaker 3: No, I'm excited for it. You know, most major productions
Speaker 3: like this get several rewrites or several go backs, you know,
Speaker 3: with the treatments of them. So you know, anything that's
Speaker 3: going to progress this, I'd rather have him do it
Speaker 3: right and have the X Men's first big foray back
Speaker 3: into Marvel and as a part of the MCU proper
Speaker 3: be you know everything that it can be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So if you don't want to know
Speaker 1: anything about the about what's going on in season three
Speaker 1: of Daredevil Born Again, tune out for.
Speaker 2: Next three minutes. David, Yeah, something like that. So, and
Speaker 2: the only reason we're talking about we don't like to
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 1: Set photos on here, but this was put out by
Speaker 1: Entertainment Weekly, and once it hits kind of a legit
Speaker 1: source like that, it's kind of hard to ignore. At
Speaker 1: first when it started leaking, we're all saying, is this real?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 2: AI mean, that's the life we live.
Speaker 1: But Entertainment Weekly put it out there, and again, if
Speaker 1: you're watching live, I tune out for.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 1: But this they uh big reunion happening for Born Again
Speaker 1: season three, So this is your last chance to bow
Speaker 1: out come back in about a couple of minutes. Well,
Speaker 1: this photo right here is real. This is what's happening
Speaker 1: with season three. We already knew we're getting Jet back.
Speaker 2: Jessica Jones.
Speaker 1: We still haven't seen her yet, but I have a
Speaker 1: feeling should come back next week, just have a feeling.
Speaker 1: We also get Michael Colter hiding, trying to do his
Speaker 1: best to hide under there under his uh looks like
Speaker 1: nice winky you know suit he's got going on, and
Speaker 1: they're right in the middle, not trying to hide anything.
Speaker 1: Fynn Jones is back. We have Luke Cage, iron Fist back.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: That's all I got to say is wow. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: wasn't necessary, too surprising. Finn Jones, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: I stand, I stand very much surprised.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not only are we getting them, we're getting all
Speaker 3: the band at the same time. This isn't You're gonna
Speaker 3: have one episode with Jessica Jones, another one with Luke
Speaker 3: Cage and we will shoehorn iron fists in there. You know,
Speaker 3: all three are standing together. It is glorious. Luke Cage
Speaker 3: is in what looks to be the suit that he
Speaker 3: ended the ending of his show with when he took
Speaker 3: over as the new ruler of Harlem, so it looks
Speaker 3: like he's still rocking that persona. Of course, Jessica Jones
Speaker 3: is in the black leather jacket we expect no less,
Speaker 3: and Ben Jones's Danny Rand is kind of in just
Speaker 3: you know, his his casual I've got on some some
Speaker 3: loose fitting khakis and you know, loose fitting thermal T
Speaker 3: shirt type deal what we're used to seeing him in
Speaker 3: as well. So these look like they are possibly continuing
Speaker 3: wherever they left off in the Netflix series going forward,
Speaker 3: at least stylized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, I don't like Iron Fist is
Speaker 1: one of the lowest tier shows in my opinion, I'm
Speaker 1: not the only one who says that.
Speaker 2: In Netflix era es.
Speaker 1: Finn Jones said some really dumb things in the pressed
Speaker 1: to her for the first season, including basically saying he
Speaker 1: didn't train his hard, this, that, and the other. It
Speaker 1: was kind of like a slap in the face of
Speaker 1: those people who really adored the character. I will say
Speaker 1: second season is better, but the way the cliffhanger ended
Speaker 1: at the second season and what a banger episode is
Speaker 1: that that was a way to end it. Colleen Wing.
Speaker 1: It became the new Iron Fist. So what is Danny's
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Is that does that still exist?
Speaker 1: Is he because we saw him basically doing like iron
Speaker 1: Fist gun you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'll be very interesting to see the power set.
Speaker 1: I'm happy that, you know, he's getting a chance to
Speaker 1: maybe have a redemption, you know that we can say, oh,
Speaker 1: thank God, maybe it was just a whole writer thing
Speaker 1: and he's matured. I want to like this, I really
Speaker 1: really do want to like Vin Jones.
Speaker 2: It was just like man.
Speaker 1: And then we got word that the actress who played
Speaker 1: Colleen Wing was offered what the what was she offered?
Speaker 3: Originally she was offered the role of the sister in
Speaker 3: Hunk Cheese.
Speaker 1: So she was offered that part but turned it down
Speaker 1: because she was holding on and she had told Marvel
Speaker 1: that she didn't want to be cast in a new
Speaker 1: part because she wants to return as Colleen Wing. So Marvel,
Speaker 1: make it happen.
Speaker 2: Even if we.
Speaker 1: Don't get a Daughters of the Dragon, Colleen Wing, the actress,
Speaker 1: she deserves to have another shot at this. She was
Speaker 1: one of the best things in the Ironfish Show. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring back Vin Jones for crying out loud,
Speaker 1: just you got the money, bring her back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just again. I'm excited for them, them bringing them
Speaker 3: all back. Vinn has been in interviews within the last
Speaker 3: couple of years. You know, he seems a lot more
Speaker 3: regretful about some of the actions that he took or
Speaker 3: in actions he took when he had that character and
Speaker 3: wanting to do it justice going forward. And I hope
Speaker 3: that he comes still with that same zes to make
Speaker 3: it better this go around, and he can have his
Speaker 3: own redemption moment. And I will be all for that, because, yes,
Speaker 3: season one you could tell that there was just something missing.
Speaker 3: Season two was a step up, but if it was
Speaker 3: still the weakest of the originals, Yeah, Luke, excise me.
Speaker 1: My culture even hinted on Michael rosen Bomb's podcasting study
Speaker 1: in one of his most recent episodes. When he had
Speaker 1: a mom he said, and now it's Tom he said.
Speaker 1: I've had discussion with Marvel, he said, and I do
Speaker 1: think that it's very very likely that I will come
Speaker 1: back at some point, but I don't know when, but
Speaker 1: I think I will. He knew at that moment. You know,
Speaker 1: Rosebud films, these you know, a month month plus in advance.
Speaker 1: By that point, he knew he was back. He was
Speaker 1: just trying to be not so subtle. Yeah, as for joints,
Speaker 1: you voice to desire to return, he said, I'm very
Speaker 1: aware of the critiques of the character in my role
Speaker 1: with it at March twenty twenty five Anime Convention, referring
Speaker 1: to whitewashing and white Savior criticism for Netflix. Sign First,
Speaker 1: my response to that is, they give me a blanking chance. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm here and I'm ready, and I want to prove
Speaker 1: people wrong. So I would love to see that happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Again, I want if this is going to be him
Speaker 1: atoning for what happened in the past in doing a
Speaker 1: better job with it. Yes, great, Iron is not one
Speaker 1: of my top favorite characters, but again I am willing
Speaker 1: to see it and not right off completely, but if
Speaker 1: certain things continue to act like they are, and so
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, yet, Colleen Wing right there.
Speaker 2: Right there, Yeah you had it and then you flouted it.
Speaker 2: So I hope they don't. I really do.
Speaker 1: But it's cool to finally get that kind of confirmation
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll have to see what happened, so
Speaker 1: but so we'll have to see We'll see if we
Speaker 1: see him at the end of the season, but we
Speaker 1: know they were definitely going to see him in season three.
Speaker 2: So but anymore thoughts before we wrap up the news
Speaker 2: for the.
Speaker 3: Week, David No, I, like I said that this is
Speaker 3: all a bunch of good stuff that I was not
Speaker 3: expecting all this news to be flooded in this This
Speaker 3: Daredevil news makes me very excited. I mean, the show's
Speaker 3: already great, just to see a continuous trajectory and continue
Speaker 3: it to honor the legacy of the shows before it
Speaker 3: while steal building upon its own. I mean, even in
Speaker 3: this past episode, we got some clips and flashbacks to
Speaker 3: the Netflix air and that's the first time we've ever
Speaker 3: gotten like that full on Netflix is cannon.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, I have not seen and will
Speaker 1: not see that mid season trailer that they put out.
Speaker 1: I'd make it a habit not to do that, and
Speaker 1: from what I saw in our group chat, it definitely
Speaker 1: reveals some pretty big things.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad I don't want it. I don't.
Speaker 3: Yes, I have not seen it as well. Also, Marvee
Speaker 3: and I don't know why they did this. The morning
Speaker 3: of they dropped the Bullseye diner scene ahead of the show,
Speaker 3: like please don't don't, Yeah, just wait the ten hours
Speaker 3: until the show drops. Let people enjoy it and then
Speaker 3: if you want to do it on Sunday or something
Speaker 3: like that, get those numbers up those second viewings. Fine,
Speaker 3: but at least but don't give us that without the.
Speaker 1: Whole I mean, I didn't know that, because again, I
Speaker 1: try to if I see something even hinting about it
Speaker 1: and move on. They could have easily just done like
Speaker 1: maybe the open opening of just when the task work
Speaker 1: comes in and then stops it right there. Don't ruin
Speaker 1: don't ruin the dessert by putting it too early. Come on, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: just it was not a good look in my opinion.
Speaker 1: But all right, so we're gonna take our final ad
Speaker 1: break for the evening and get into listener feedback and
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Speaker 2: so lis our questions whether they got what they got
Speaker 2: for us? What put Spider single up?
Speaker 3: All right? Uh? Signal went out for questions, So I
Speaker 3: will start with front of the channel Phil, who says,
Speaker 3: does anyone want ketch up with that? I am assuming
Speaker 3: he is referring to the the opening fight scene in
Speaker 3: and ending with him using the ketchup to draw the bullseye. Again.
Speaker 3: I am not walking into a city diner at breakfast
Speaker 3: time and having the lobster. So if that's what I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to put ketchup on. Sorry, not happening. It
Speaker 3: reminds me of the SNL Lobster store skit with Pete
Speaker 3: Davidson and John mc MacLean, and I am just yet
Speaker 3: no no, no, no, no no no lobster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I no, it's gonna touch that ketchup. It's like
Speaker 1: that's evidence.
Speaker 2: Now all right? The next all.
Speaker 3: Right, next one, and I am going to good luck.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna at least try with uh lord cooof. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it is a weird name again, sorry, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's a lot of syllables in that name that
Speaker 3: just don't make sense. But this question is, what do
Speaker 3: you all think of the lighting and color grading in
Speaker 3: these episodes.
Speaker 1: Okay, batches the show. I don't have any problem with it.
Speaker 1: Don't watch the show in the bright light because you're
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to see especially the dark parts.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I am a fan of the tones that they
Speaker 3: use for the separate characters. I am a fan of
Speaker 3: how they light some of the scenes for each ones
Speaker 3: to show, you know, the depth and everything. I like
Speaker 3: the blue hue when we have Bullseye. I like how
Speaker 3: the aspect ratio changes when Matt's really honing in on
Speaker 3: his listening. I like how they will blur everything and
Speaker 3: give it that kind of a gritty look if you're
Speaker 3: going from his perspective as he's getting knocked or something
Speaker 3: else like it. Really, I think it adds extra to
Speaker 3: these people to to have those moments. Uh Kingpin for example,
Speaker 3: when when he took that hit, like the camera kind
Speaker 3: of took a shake before he then just started to
Speaker 3: wail on his opponent. So with I'm cool with the
Speaker 3: color grading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So all right, that all the questions.
Speaker 3: We got one more from Brent, with Buck referring to
Speaker 3: Daniel as a possible air apparent.
Speaker 2: To Brent, it's a first long time.
Speaker 3: Friend of the show. You know that that that we
Speaker 3: hope to hear from and see one day. But yes,
Speaker 3: with Buck referring to Daniel as a possible heir parent
Speaker 3: to Wilson Fisk and BB having taken up Ben Ulrich's
Speaker 3: legacy of journalism, do you think we could get a
Speaker 3: repeat of the Netflix run when Kingpinn killed Ben? Is
Speaker 3: Daniel going to do something to intentionally kill BB or
Speaker 3: lead to her death? I sent this before episode four dropped,
Speaker 3: so as possible, we already know the answer.
Speaker 1: So do we think it could get a repeat of
Speaker 1: the Netflix run when Kingpinn killed Ben? So Kingpin killing
Speaker 1: BB in this case?
Speaker 3: I yes?
Speaker 2: Or is.
Speaker 3: Daniel going to be the one to kill Bebe?
Speaker 1: I mean I could see the whole Daniel thing. I
Speaker 1: somehow see him making an attempt. But I think that
Speaker 1: Bbe's gonna survive me too.
Speaker 3: I think that BB is going to be too to it,
Speaker 3: especially since we don't have Been. You need that reporter
Speaker 3: vibe and they matched with this BB on the street thing,
Speaker 3: so I think she will stick around.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So love to see but good questions this week, folks,
Speaker 1: Thanks for sending them in and factor fiction.
Speaker 2: So number one, I already proved it.
Speaker 1: Vanessa will be killed and her death will be intiverdently
Speaker 1: caused by Kingpin seventy five percent in fact, twenty five
Speaker 1: percent in fiction. Time stamps are out there to prove
Speaker 1: I got this out there before you have. By the
Speaker 1: end of season two, darreedbil born again Daredevil will be
Speaker 1: presented with another moment where he has to decide to
Speaker 1: kill Bullseye, but this time he won't do it, and
Speaker 1: that was sixty percent in fact, forty percent in fiction,
Speaker 1: and number three. By the end of season two, Matt
Speaker 1: Murdoch will be publicly out of Daredevil and will be
Speaker 1: arrested fifty to fifty split. All right, what do you
Speaker 1: got this week?
Speaker 2: David?
Speaker 3: All right, so I have first ones. First is I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go with a non Dared douvil one. I'm going
Speaker 3: to go with the Punisher, And I'm going to say
Speaker 3: that because we had we we I understood the flashes
Speaker 3: of the military men, but then we had the flashes
Speaker 3: of Curtis. So I'm going to say Curtis's death is
Speaker 3: what will bring Frank back into the game.
Speaker 2: Can't protect your Curtis read Yeah, sure changes logical enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that is uh, that is something
Speaker 3: that can uh you know very well be like, all right,
Speaker 3: this is why this is why I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: Number two is Jessica Jones will reference a relationship with
Speaker 3: Luke Cage this season, a past relationship or just the
Speaker 3: current that their current that they're breaking beds again. Yep,
Speaker 3: that they're going and getting coffee.
Speaker 1: I could see that happening, sure, or at least yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I still can't kind of see. It's sweet Christmas.
Speaker 3: And what do you think I think that Yep, we are.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get a hey have you heard from Luke
Speaker 3: and Tanny and everyone? And that's when we're gonna get
Speaker 3: the Oh, Danny's off doing this. And I saw Luke
Speaker 3: when I left the house this morning, like it's it's
Speaker 3: gonna be something not nonchalant, just like yeah whatever. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I definitely do think that they will start the setup
Speaker 3: of them coming back in season three.
Speaker 2: Now, all right.
Speaker 3: Number three, Number three, Uh, borrowing from some events of
Speaker 3: comic books, it's not the way that she died, but
Speaker 3: I do think this is the way that she will
Speaker 3: come back. The Vanessa will be resurrected by the Hand. Nah.
Speaker 2: Sorry, keep gone.
Speaker 3: Yes, for those of you who don't know, in the
Speaker 3: comic books, she dies of cancer. I believe like she
Speaker 3: no one comes and kills her like she's legitimately sick
Speaker 3: and dies. Then yeah, but then then the Hands still
Speaker 3: her body and they resurrect her in an attempt to
Speaker 3: go after Kingpin. And I think this was in a
Speaker 3: Wolverine comic at that, so it wasn't even in a
Speaker 3: Daredevil comic.
Speaker 1: Odd decision, all that power on your side rhetoric, Vanessa
Speaker 1: fisk yep priorties were misaligned.
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm gonna go fact simply for the fact
Speaker 3: that in retrospect, Vanessa has been wearing a lot of
Speaker 3: red up until her death. And I don't know why,
Speaker 3: but I'm just getting some foreshadowing of the Hand here,
Speaker 3: and that maybe she has had some dealings with them
Speaker 3: as she was building her empire.
Speaker 2: And she could have, but I just I think that's
Speaker 2: kind of a waste.
Speaker 1: I think that's a death that needs to stay in
Speaker 1: order to make Fists continue to lose his dang mind,
Speaker 1: you know. But hey, we'll see, So I will post
Speaker 1: those on Sunday Afternoons, let your voices be heard with that.
Speaker 1: And so let's conclude tonight's episode with Compook Club looking
Speaker 1: at age of Ultron number five.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Pulling that open for us, So it looks like we
Speaker 1: got the kind of a path look back at Vision
Speaker 1: after he was ripped in half at the quote unquote
Speaker 1: Avengers darkest moment that would be Whener's disassembled occurred, and.
Speaker 2: You know when he kind of.
Speaker 1: Gets reactivated and they're in the Savage Land trying to
Speaker 1: find very secret bunker.
Speaker 2: In the present that.
Speaker 3: Is, Yeah, I did like kind of the flashback of
Speaker 3: them talking about Vision and you know how he was
Speaker 3: created and how you know, Ultron kind of crim kind
Speaker 3: of did. They were going through this weird who created
Speaker 3: what type deal? And then it fast forward to now
Speaker 3: with them in the Savage Land and Tony starks like
Speaker 3: it was brilliant. It was brilliant the entire time Ultron
Speaker 3: created Vision put him in our miss he's been hiding
Speaker 3: here for years just so he could take us down,
Speaker 3: Like it's absolutely brilliant, Like he's really thinking that Ultron
Speaker 3: has been playing chess this whole time, and with fifty moves.
Speaker 1: Ahead, Yeah, you gotta love it when theories, you know,
Speaker 1: I love it how they adventuated that's a life final
Speaker 1: decoy burn to him, he ain't so, but but they
Speaker 1: bring up the point of basically he has time travel
Speaker 1: there and so they're going to go into the future
Speaker 1: since Ultron is operating through vision through the future, they
Speaker 1: want to take out you know, Ultron from there.
Speaker 3: But as he goes, we get the tried and true,
Speaker 3: you know, crisis of conscience. Do you go back in
Speaker 3: time and kill Hitler if you can? Why is that
Speaker 3: always the go to conversation with time travel.
Speaker 1: Seems to be a common thread. But they're going to
Speaker 1: go in the future, take out try and hopefully fix everything.
Speaker 1: But Wolverine had said earlier and saying get set back up,
Speaker 1: we're going to the past to kill all trying to
Speaker 1: creator which is who.
Speaker 3: So that they're going to the past to take out
Speaker 3: Hank Pim.
Speaker 1: Just yep, and I love that last that last page
Speaker 1: with Wolverine saying, no, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take them down, and this whole thing before
Speaker 1: it even begins, and you see the reflection of the
Speaker 1: other heroes. That's definitely a cold splash page to and on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well we will see what happens.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in issue number six and Boom
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Speaker 3: All right, with the news of the Defenders reuniting, Pitch
Speaker 3: one show or special presentation that involves those characters.
Speaker 2: Goodness.
Speaker 3: Originally it was going to be Pitch one show and
Speaker 3: one special presentation, but I decided to go either or.
Speaker 1: Pitch one show. Low hanging fruit as Heroes for Hire.
Speaker 1: That's the low hanging fruit. What I want more of
Speaker 1: is what I still don't have as Daughters of the Dragon.
Speaker 2: I want that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I neither one of them are officially back, and
Speaker 1: at that point that's what I want above all. However,
Speaker 1: if Finn Jones can redeem himself in this part and
Speaker 1: he has a great back and forth with Luke Cage,
Speaker 1: which was one of the Heroes Fire episodes, is still
Speaker 1: one of the better episodes in the show. But if
Speaker 1: you can redeem himself, I see that chemistry again at
Speaker 1: that point. Yeah, give me Heroes for Hire, But what
Speaker 1: I really want is the Daughters of the Dragon.
Speaker 3: Yeah for a show, I would also like hero Try
Speaker 3: is the low hanging fruit. I mean it's great. As
Speaker 3: for a special presentation, I would thoroughly enjoy a Luke
Speaker 3: Cage Jessica Jones team up that involves their daughter. I
Speaker 3: don't need a full season show of it, but man
Speaker 3: to have them both being pulled back into the superhero game,
Speaker 3: like they've had the child, they're kind of chilling and
Speaker 3: now they're getting pulled back into the superhero game. I
Speaker 3: think that that would just be a fun show in
Speaker 3: involving both of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see. This is the taste for things
Speaker 1: to come. I don't know, but we will see you
Speaker 1: all next week for breaking down at the very least,
Speaker 1: episode five of Daredevil Born Again. So see you all
Speaker 1: next week. Have a great weekend, Stay safe out there.
Speaker 2: Bye bye, sit See you