Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where.
Speaker 1: The plays get broken down and science gets denied.
Speaker 2: I got to come off the bench.
Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
ben So Baton Rouge Studio starts now.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in to the unofficial pregame show
of LU and U c l A.
Speaker 2: You know what really pissed me off?
Speaker 4: Those stairs we just did in between the seconds?
Speaker 2: That really didn't like the amount of pain my achilles
gave me.
Speaker 3: But no, what pissed me off about the I thought
you're gonna say that the producers didn't also join us
in the stairs because this is supposed to be a
foxhole situation.
Speaker 5: Hey brother, Hey, I don't know by hitting them stairs,
maybe I could have dropped down, hit ten, pushed us
with you.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, look man, what are you eight?
Speaker 5: So? I can't believe y'all liked doing stairs because that
used to be the worst thing I hated doing. I mean,
nobody said here I'm about to say, bro stairs was
the worst one. You know, I play high schootball. I
didn't play the college ball like y'all you know, you know,
and Captain Meathead. I wish I was, but stairs was brutal,
like especially when you get that first rep in. I
was as hot and steaming in there. You can't even breathe.
People falling down the stairs. We run it up. Terrible
Indian runs too. I hated Indian runs.
Speaker 2: It's usually going down, that's the worst.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Downs, bat on the knees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, better like your quads are already shaky. Yeah, now
you gotta keep yourself. I mean we ran Tiger Stadium
a couple of times. It wasn't something we specialized in.
We did it more probably the year before you got there,
because because our main facility was at the stadium.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your first year we had the we were still
in entire stadium where we were. That was our sophomore year
that we moved over across the pond Rosa. Yeah, so
we remember we took the old prison buses, oh for sure.
Oh Bo Davis was the bus driver. Now sts defensive
line coach. I just can't remember if he hit every
single curve from the stadium to.
Speaker 4: The practice field. Well there's a lot of them. Yeah,
he didn't miss anything.
Speaker 2: Cleaned that up.
Speaker 4: But yeah, those are the white buses.
Speaker 5: Those are definitely prison They were prison buses for prison buses.
Speaker 3: God, I remember just sitting there and I'm young, I'm
a freshman, and just like when I would see the
the veterans in their face and how miserable they looked
about what was about to go down.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm pretty sure you know this is during
August heat too in the morning. I'm pretty sure Bo
Davis would go down and close all the windows and
the door to get it as steamy as possible as
they could, because the first thing we were doing got
in there like it was the old school school bus.
Like you had to pinch the sides of the top
and then.
Speaker 3: Like pull it down and then you and I we
used to walk back every practice to the stadium because
we didn't want to get back on those buses.
Speaker 2: It was all I mean, it was like the whole
thing of old school training camp was just just to
mind you.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, how much can I put on your plate?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 3: And how much can you handle? I'm gonna break you. Yeah,
I'm gonna try to break you. You're not always gonna
get it done, but I'm gonna try. And the ones
that can't handle it, are not gonna be here very.
Speaker 2: That's the point, right, that's the old you know. They
don't do it as much anymore. I try to weed
out the week, but that's what it. Guys will just
leave you leave. Yeah, but looking back at it.
Speaker 3: Hardest thing you ever you ever had to do at
l s U conditioning wise, like off season workout, because
sneaky one was the ramps of Tiger Stadium.
Speaker 4: It was a sneaky one, yeah, but the hardest. But
it was sneaky.
Speaker 2: It was sneaky hard, the hardest thing. So the first
fourth quarter we had that's got to be up there.
It's got to be like top two or three moments. No,
I'm pretty sure I only did it one year, like
the Full Blood Yeah, moffit running around and sabing, running around, yelling,
try to the fourth corner and that was Yeah. They
would put the field, Yeah, theyould put trash cans in
the middle of the field. They'd put them all over
the sidelines and those were there for your throw up
because when you got so tired. Yeah, we had to
do some just crazy crazy we I can't really explain
to you the workout. It's been a long time, But
we ran a lot of curves, We ran a lot
of one tens and gasses and things, but it was
there to make you break. And I would say there
was probably each day was probably you know, twenty to
thirty percent people puking. Probably on top of that, it was,
you know, the one tens always kind of got the
headlines for like the hard thing, that's the conditioning test,
and you know, sometimes you'd have to run you know,
the conditioning test was sixteen one tens, but sometimes during
the workout, depending on if somebody was coasting through the
line or all started or whatever, you have to run
an extra.
Speaker 3: I mean remember though, when we first got here, we
started at twenty six and worked our way down.
Speaker 2: Every the first week was twenty six, and but also
the rest time also went down with that. It started
out like a minute rest and yeah, fifty five to fifty. Yeah,
it all built you to the conditioning test, which everybody
had to pass, which was sixteen one tens with forty
five seconds rest, and depending on what position group you're in,
you had to run each one in a certain amount
of time. It was fifteen seconds, sixteen seconds, then eighteen
for the.
Speaker 4: Line, eighteen for the lineman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when I tell you, and he might be listening,
he might be back in town when I tell you that.
Maffittt knew that US two had figured the system out
and he hated it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we.
Speaker 3: We And I mean this, if there was a Hall
of Fame of one tens US two, our captains.
Speaker 2: Your boys are on.
Speaker 3: We head it down to an exact science where we
finished the finish line at fifteen every single time, and
if you had.
Speaker 2: To stop fifteen point nine.
Speaker 3: If you had to stop watch, it would have been
the same time on every single week.
Speaker 2: So we had to be on under sixteen seconds because
we were mid scilla. And yeah, if you ever thought we
were we were coming in. We were coming in that
finish line between fifteen point seventy five and fifteen point
nine five like every rep.
Speaker 3: And we would switch, we'd switch out so like Flynn
would start the pace and so we'd be talking through
it like sprint Coast Glide wid And then we knew
there was a three step process.
Speaker 2: And you couldn't do that during the workout because it
was a big like finished through the line. You couldn't
like be slowing down at the line. But when you
were actually on the clock. Yeah, it was. You would
hand behind the line and you'd go and we would.
It wasn't like a full blown sprint, but it was
like ninety percent ninety to ninety five percent to our
own forty forty five yard line at about thirty yards
of slowing down, and then the last ten yards was
basically like walking and timing it up to where the
guy the string coach with the clock was about to
say sixteen, we would we would.
Speaker 3: Finish, yeah, and again like Mopet's our boy, like our boy.
Speaker 4: But he knew and he didn't like.
Speaker 2: It very much.
Speaker 3: It was a four pm workout class. He was already pissed,
but we weren't there at six am. H Yeah, four pm. Man,
look in the middle. If you can do it, then
you can do it anytime. Anybody can do it at
six am.
Speaker 2: Seven am or four Who gets up and does sup
at seven am?
Speaker 6: I would much rather the four pm, Yeah, even if
it's a little hotter. I'd rather the four pm.
Speaker 5: A little hotter.
Speaker 4: So We're gonna get to mailbag at some point.
Speaker 3: But I've told the story on air before, but we
always have new listeners. There was never a more miserable
day than when Jimbo Fisher and Bo Polini and got
in a pissing contest. And we were running perfect forties
after practice, in perfect forties for less, like they had
to be you know, a certain order, like the three
guys in line had to be any like hands like
football ready, stance like you know, hands like everything like
had to be in position. The guy that was running
had to be hand behind the line. Perfect position is
what whatever? Perfect That's why they're called perfect forties.
Speaker 2: And it's after this is after practice like a training camp.
Speaker 3: Ask true to a days the first the first practice, yeah,
like and everybody in line had to say what was it?
Speaker 2: Was it? Like? Ready? Ready?
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 2: I can't remember what. Everybody had to break down like
in line with their knees bent like, their hands to
the side.
Speaker 3: I had everything had to be perfect, but like, look,
we had figured it out. We've been doing it all
off season whatever, and so you know, we just had
a full padded training camp, get after your ass practice
and so we're running these forties and I don't remember,
maybe you do. I don't remember which coach called out
a star player on the other side first.
Speaker 2: So let's set this a little bit more of the
States here. Everybody has a line. This is our like
stretch lines from pre practice. So you got your quarter
in a group, you got your receivers, you're running backs,
offensive line on one side the field. Then it's all
the defensive people and it's the defensive line, defensive ends, linebackers, cornerback, safety,
all in their own individual lines, and that individual coach
is running each line. So Jimbo would run our line,
so he was the quarterback.
Speaker 4: Quorterer would run our lines exactly.
Speaker 2: Stacy Searles or stud would run the offensive lines. Yeah,
you'll get it. So they would be the judge of
each line of their group, their guys. I see what
was going on.
Speaker 4: Well again, I don't remember if it was.
Speaker 2: I believe it was bo.
Speaker 4: Okay, so Bo called out. Was it early?
Speaker 2: I think it was so Bo.
Speaker 4: Polini called out early due set the receiver and.
Speaker 2: Say calling out they were like, didn't like earlier set,
didn't finish through the line.
Speaker 3: Early set, hand wasn't behind the line or whatever it was.
He called it out right and that never happened. Like
defensive guys never called out offense. Offense never called out defense.
And so when Bo Polini called out early across the
old Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 4: Oh, Jimbo was ready.
Speaker 3: Oh really you're gonna okay, So the next one, the
next one, Jimbo Fisher, Glenn Dorsey didn't finish. You're like,
put what so they don't count? And you gotta get
you got to get perfect forties, full speed ten everybody, every.
Speaker 4: Swing and soul in there, and.
Speaker 2: We're exhausted, right but our wheels are starting to turn
like we we know what just happened right there. Yeah,
and we've been around these coaches long enough to realize
this ain't going anywhere fast.
Speaker 4: No, nobody's gonna back down.
Speaker 2: Nobody's backing down.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And then it turned into Hess didn't finish, Craig Stells
fall start.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: Calling out everybody. I'm talking about every week, every big
name player that you can think of, Richard Dixon, false start.
This went on and on, I mean on, and then
Jimbo and Bo are just japping at each other, I
mean just getting after each other and every star player
starter that you can think of on a national championship team.
Speaker 2: Craig Steltz would never loafed in his life.
Speaker 3: Craig Steltz could run from here to Brewleian back and
be full speed and never even breathe hard. But he
got called out for not finishing right way, so like
it became a thing and Less should have stopped it.
He should have stepped in, be like, and he did eventually.
Speaker 4: He did.
Speaker 3: He did it eventually because like you know, he's like,
all right, I know what's going on here.
Speaker 4: I let it go for a little bit.
Speaker 3: He did stop it, But man, I mean did we
run I mean thirty something of these perfect forty full
speed after practice the state middle so I mean we're
like it might have been like high twenties, but it
felt like thirty.
Speaker 4: He got so bad, so many people like.
Speaker 3: Ivs passing out cold tub immediately, like just jumping in
with everything on. It got so bad that Jimbo and
Bow had to get in front of the team and
apologize to the team at team meeting that night.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, it was it was hard. Like Less saw it. Eventually,
he knew what was happened, but it's like they just.
Speaker 3: Let it ride for a little bit because he was like,
I'm getting extra work out of these guys.
Speaker 2: Look jim and Bow like when they get mad.
Speaker 3: We're talking about West Virginia and Youngstown, Ohio, two places
like with a lot of grit that aren't going to back.
Speaker 2: Some people get mad and you're like, all right, all right,
well you look like a clown or whatever. Those people
get mad, they're scary. Yeah, they are terrifying.
Speaker 4: Between Lane as very skinny guy, you know, not when
he get said, look, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like for a second there, Miles, it would be
like miles like getting in between like two pibulls fighting
at that point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so is this around the same time you guys
are at l s U with that will Mushtank video
and like Nick say, it was like killing some guy.
Speaker 3: That was that was after that was two years after that. Okay,
now we had our time with those coaches, So about
how how was that dynamic? Because you know, outside looking
at it, look I love looks crazy.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 3: That's how That's what I respond to, Taylor. You can
pull that up if you want to what Jordan's talking about.
So for me, okay, that's what I respond to. Everybody
takes coaching differently. There's some people in EJ and I
talk about this all the time on off.
Speaker 4: Campus, Like for EJ. He needed an add of boy.
He'll tell you. I needed an add of boy. I
needed to.
Speaker 3: Be reassured, reassured that hey, you're doing a great I
wanted the coach to tell me how bad I was,
like I wanted him to be And then look and
Jimbo was really good about this, coming back behind.
Speaker 4: And be like, you know what I had to do that.
You know, I had to get on you. You know
I love you, right. I need I need I needed
like I needed it where I felt like I was
never safe. I always had to go out there. I
always had to prove something.
Speaker 2: That's that's the that's the beauty of a good coach
versus a great coach. Hey, you have to push a
player to their limits. You have to push him fat,
like farther than they ever thought they could go mentally
or physically. But you also need to know that everybody's
an individual as well. Like you couldn't coach like Rigia,
You couldn't coach like Rohand like you could Marcus.
Speaker 3: No no, no no, and you just like you couldn't
you couldn't coach JaMarcus like you coached you.
Speaker 2: I mean true, So I kind of use a couple
more out of boys for sure.
Speaker 3: And that's that's your that's you're coaching, which is fine,
It's completely fine. Like we I had some like every
day of practice. Every time, I'm like, will I just
moved to safety. I've never played this position in my life.
I'm a freshman.
Speaker 5: Just did not get that.
Speaker 2: Coach, I love protect her on punt.
Speaker 6: You were probably protector on punt because you're gonna You're
gonna be there in an actual game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think they want to be back there
because well they knew I was like physically just more
dominant than most people.
Speaker 3: Who Which which player do you think got more of those?
Speaker 2: Was it was he got some linel Yeah, he got
a lot.
Speaker 4: Some man line is such a good dude. Why you
yelling him?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rian Gordon got a lot.
Speaker 2: Of those, But it was usually younger guys that were
getting it. I mean, yeah, they always are out there
to prove a point that.
Speaker 3: The fresh Yeah, I'll think of a better answer because
I know there's somebody better that we're missing.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, like Saban's guys.
Speaker 3: Were Corey Webster, Marcus Spears, and Jesse Daniels. When I
was here with him, like those three guys saying they
were safe.
Speaker 4: He loved them.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of a linebacker corps at that
time besides line.
Speaker 3: To your point, like a lot of people that got
those weren't names that everybody would know. DJ qually, do
you remember the time he met Maxwell. We're playing against
Missippi State Jefferson Pilot game. We're up by a thousand
against Mississippi State and Maxwell blocks somebody in the back
on punk return or something, and Saban meets him at
the hash who grabs the face mask, whispers sweet nothings
to him and just ripped.
Speaker 4: I actually have somebody sent that to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say special teams caught a lot of that, Yeah,
just because.
Speaker 4: Cam Vaughan caught a lot. I'm like, Cam's like the
nicest human as well.
Speaker 2: And what are we doing like special teams? You're just
so susceptible to silly penalties like you see. I mean
even in the NFL, how many blocks in the backs
you see every week? A couple nauseating Now.
Speaker 5: It reminds me of a just this year when Brian
Kelly was getting on the snapper. The long snapper just
kind of messing. He's like you gotta get the sleeping
snap again.
Speaker 4: No doubt. Oh my gosh, what is going on, Chris Hyeah? Yeah,
go do that? What are we doing?
Speaker 3: Yes, he's the coach. You messed up. He's gonna get
into you a little bit.
Speaker 2: Walk walk coaches job push people further than they thought
they could go.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Amen, amen to that.
Speaker 4: Actually all right, don't know what that was.
Speaker 2: It was baseball talk. I know when we get back.
Speaker 3: I had another point. I'll eventually, at some point I'll
find my way. I'll circle back to the point I
was going to make there at the end.
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that actually pissed me off about the Raindoway. We'll get
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Speaker 4: What they play it, assay?
Speaker 5: What they playing?
Speaker 1: I say from the locker room to the airwaves. It's
off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: Beat O TV mail Bag.
Speaker 2: Let's guess ride.
Speaker 5: I help this special delivery for the bench and look
it is marked most urgent.
Speaker 2: We'll be writing to you the internet.
Speaker 5: What the is the internet?
Speaker 2: What the record show? I just got the hand from
Jacob when I try to talk about.
Speaker 4: Baseball, so you can uh oh, TB.
Speaker 3: Mail Bag, are all working out between breaks? Yes, yes,
there are twenty five push ups, some flutter here and there,
some stairs here and there.
Speaker 4: It's that's like, it's not completely new.
Speaker 2: It's all about the games. Guys.
Speaker 4: Bob and I did this.
Speaker 3: There was like a summer that we did it for
like a month straight and didn't miss a set and
feeling pretty good about ourselves during that month. Usually a
media days because they're so long, like we're back in
a different room for Sirius XM and so it's like,
you know, you got to get the blood flowing.
Speaker 2: Get the triangle table makes it hard. We get it.
Speaker 3: Here, TB mail Bag, What should I do with my
nineteen ninety to ninety one unopened wax boxes?
Speaker 4: Open, sabers Sell.
Speaker 2: I don't think those are worth a lot. Don't take
it from me though, we don't know a lot. Matt
Flynn says, open.
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's like the card game is so weird.
Speaker 3: Because like you'll get this like badass, you know Burrow
or Mahomes gonna be an okake card, and then you'll
get like Aroma Dunes and they's like, oh my god,
you got a Roma d kid. It's all about rookies, certainly,
like this rookie quarterback class that not this last one
with Cam Worton then, but the one before with JD five.
Speaker 4: Like it gets butanos.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, what I'm learning is for sure it's
gonna depend a lot on this year too. How all
these quarterbacks progress or don't progress, because like an unopened
case of this past year football cards is crazy expensive,
but an unopened case from like the Matt Jones here
is really cheap. But it was probably a pretty expensive
after his first year.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It's just like any investment and you get some of
these players, you try to decide when you sell, when
you hold on to them. What I want to keep
from my personal collection, and a lot of it is
how does the player progress on the field, Like we're
talking him before, Like him and I both got some
Michael Pennix that right now, you can get something for
him for sure, But if he goes out there has
a big year.
Speaker 2: I'm going long term investment on him and I got
some Spencer Rattlers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same cool cards. So just like anything. Hashtag go
to b mailbag. Thoughts on T Bob wearing a jersey
of some random LA MLS player from the nineties two
thousands instead of wrapping Louisiana for his first jerseday Hasha excelout.
I saw him with a Galaxy jersey on. I'm proud
of him for wearing a soccer kit. Proud him for that,
but k where he got it from. And I know
I got him an authentic Nolan Kane oh baseball jersey
that he wears pretty often. I'm surprised he didn't wear
that because I went over to the facilit down like, hey,
I need a two X. They're like, all right, let
me dig dig dig dig dig.
Speaker 4: They found one. It was Nolan Kn's on jersey.
Speaker 2: We went to the New Family yesterday just kind of
walk around the New Dicks and the mall huge too,
just crazy right, But I was down there, I was like, man,
I need too, I need to get me one of
these LSU baseball jerseys now because I'm a huge baseball head.
Is that what they call fans baseball head stitchat.
Speaker 5: We'll start it.
Speaker 4: Well, you'll get yours stitch head stitchhead. Yeah, that sounds aggressive.
What it is?
Speaker 2: Hair? I got one to be mailbag kind a box
of my high single serves in my pantry. Expired in
March of twenty twenty three. Does it go bad? Or
can I use it? I legally cannot tell you to
use it.
Speaker 5: Just bring it to me. I'll take them drink my head.
Speaker 2: I'd probably give it a shot, though, give the.
Speaker 3: Old college try hashtag go to be mail bag? Who
has the most expensive card not in your collection? Your
actual card probably about the same. You and I have
looked at our our car like our actual cards, We've
looked at them. I recently bought up a bunch of
numbered cards to give to my children.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get them graded, put them in a.
Speaker 3: Case, the whole deal, just in case they want to
have them to pass down to their children.
Speaker 4: Had a family friend growing up.
Speaker 3: His granddad played for the Lions, and they had his
card in the office, and I just thought that was
the coolest thing that his granddad's card was in the office.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think well, so for your your fortieth birthday
I got you as a graded nine rookie card out
of twenty twenty five. It's out of a number, yeah, number,
Like maybe credit that part to getting you into this
card game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I know.
Speaker 2: So my son got me into it. And it's like
he thought it was the coolest thing looking at cards
of mine, and then I thought it was cool because
I'd seen thousands, like people you know, signed a ton
of them, right and you see you see all these
and what I've learned that I've been signing, like the
base cards. I didn't know there were other cool looking cards.
But I still haven't found like a Jersey number match
card or like I'd love to find like a one
on one. You can't find it. I mean, who knows.
Someone probably mailed it to me like to sign, and
I probably threw it away or something.
Speaker 4: I know, what did you do?
Speaker 2: You still get like random mail?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: My question is how do they get my home address?
Speaker 4: It's very easy. It's like I'm Google like that.
Speaker 2: I don't sign it. If it comes to my home address,
I'm not doing it, you know why, because like I'm
just confirming that that's my home address. At that point.
Speaker 3: I don't want these I'm fifty, Like when it comes in, like,
I'm like, man, I do read the letters and if
it's like a kid wrote this on my all.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, but a lot so what I learned playing
was a lot of times people get their kids to
write things or you know, respect to the game. But
from the home address standpoint, I also felt like there's
a message board out there they're like, yeah, it's his,
it's confirmed, got it back, it's definitely his home address.
I don't want that should I don't want that evil
on me. Fu eil out there people.
Speaker 5: I said, these are real world problems that I just
cannot relate to random people mailing me stuff. Is my
My real world problem at the moment is all these
spam numbers I keep calling.
Speaker 2: Me and that's a big problem. I don't know what
is going on with.
Speaker 3: I pay like this service like thirty dollars a month
to like try to get rid of it, and it's
it's been better, yeah, but still some because.
Speaker 2: Alasa did that that she signed us up for some service,
Like what everybody, There's not one person I've talked to
that isn't getting.
Speaker 4: The craziest pace. Mine's always for the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's like different numbers across the country for like a
seventy five thousand dollars loan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh you got you gotta prepaid, you get this
pre you got.
Speaker 4: To prove for this a bezel, Mine's always the same number.
Speaker 2: Oh how about the like the random uh spam text
messages that are completely just there to get you, like
in trouble in your life? Yeah, I got one the
other day from an unknow number and then the underneath
it says report junk. It's like I got the stakes
on the grill. Make sure you pick up the line whoa,
And I'm like, what.
Speaker 5: Well, I never got those. That's a little.
Speaker 2: Text though, because they tell you where they are shoved.
Get some steaks, man some wine. That's a good point,
I said.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're welcome.
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had some pappy from Mark Stoops in Destin, Florida. It
was medoring our producer Hugh and Alyssa Lane, and he
appreciated us always giving Kentucky some love on our sec
radio Chan was going on, and he bought us some
nice alcohol and we sat there and we talked fall
with Mark Stoops for about an hour.
Speaker 2: It was a great nice Is that called propaganda bribery?
Speaker 3: No, He's just like, hey, a lot of people don't
talk about just years ago Kentucky football. You'll always, you know,
at least point out the things that we do really well,
and we appreciate that.
Speaker 4: And he's like cheers.
Speaker 3: And by far the most expensive alcohol I've ever had,
because I'm not a big drinker.
Speaker 2: So I've I've definitely tried some very expensive alcohol, but
I'll say this, I did like a pappy deal one time.
Some you know, been around some I guess some fun groups.
I'll say the most expensive alcohol I've ever purchased my
own self was probably think about a two hundred dollars
bout of the field one time.
Speaker 4: Yeh, yeah, I'm having it was a splur It was
a big spla. I've never done anything crazy like some names.
Is about as crazy as I get. With Moan Walter.
Speaker 2: I mean he goes some people. I mean there's oh,
they could spend four or five grand on a bottle
of wine.
Speaker 5: A twenty dollars bottle, Jack Daniels, I'm good. I am
not expensive.
Speaker 2: Look, I am not picky when it comes. That's up
my bourbon or whiskey of choice. Everybody, all my close
friends know this. I it's Kirkland brand Canadian whiskey.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He loves nineteen ninety nine for a handle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and some people will put their nose up to that.
Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 2: To six crushed me for it. I mean just because
there wasn't enough tannins or something in it.
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Speaker 3: What OC had the craziest most over the top play
calls for ones I played for. I mean I had
some great ones, starting with my father in law, Chris
Tilly shout out in high.
Speaker 2: School over the off like probably wordy, lengthy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Peyton Manning. Was he the quarterback? Yes?
Was he the offensive coordinator by like actual title? No,
but yes he was. There was a lot was the
facto OC.
Speaker 2: Kind of kind of like when there's an o C
when the head coaches a play caller, it's.
Speaker 4: Like Mike McCoy was our o C, but.
Speaker 5: Peyton Manning was your Yeah.
Speaker 2: So for me, it's Josh McDaniels in New England, and
I get it. I was there for a cup of coffee.
But so when you when you install an offense, there's
everything makes sense. Like the terminology makes sense everything you know.
The formations are West, Trip, trouble, deuce, divide double like
it starts with the D, starts with a T, and
like everything just makes sense when you're with But you
you bastardize that throughout the season. You throw in wrinkles,
Like you pay the Jaguars, so you're gonna throw in
a Jaguar play. The Panthers you got, you put in
a you know, panther whatever. You you create plays and
then they work so they stick and they become part
of the solvent and over time that offense doesn't make
sense anymore, but everybody that's in it understands it will
hardly under so I get there in twenty fifteen. Oh well,
Tom Brady and Josh Nails, they've been there for quite
a while and had a lot of success, so nothing
that they did made any sense. So learning it from scratch,
especially when I had like four other offenses already in
my brain at that point from different places, it was
the most confusing, had made no sense, and it was
the hardest time I had of all the places I
was learning an offense just because and I'm sure like
when I was in when I was in Green Bay,
it was hard for people to learn that too, because
that playbook was bastardized to the point where that's.
Speaker 4: Why we were a number system in San Diego.
Speaker 3: I know you hate that, but it was so easy
because everybody understands the numbers right, because a number is
a number. Now, there were some things off of that,
but it's like every now it's on the quarterback, like
Philip had a lot of heavy lifting he had to
do because it's long, right, you got to give everybody
their route. But that is one thing the number system
can't help you out with is because you come in
and play pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: But the thing that not being a number system does,
like having the lengthy stuff, is because you can come
up with So in New England they had three ways
to call a play. They had the they had the
full length way, which is like you're a normal pace,
we're getting in the huddle. You had like a medium range,
like we're gonna do like a muddle huddle, like I'm
going to shorten the play that might be twenty three
words long, We're going to shorten it to eight eight words. Yeah,
So and then everybody could memorize that. But then there
was like a cheetah rapid like go go go. Then
it was like one word. I know, you can't really
do that with the numbers.
Speaker 4: I guess you could a lot of memorization.
Speaker 2: And that's what made it really tough as well, because
you had to like start with you got to learn
the long version, the medium version, and the one word version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look there's a lot of different ways. I know,
we got to take a break.
Speaker 3: But like for Peyton's system, like he had, we had
one through fifteen was our NASCAR package and any like
quarterback famous quarterback number that he's said like that. He
would just say that name and that was the play.
You had to memorize all that. So he'd say moon
moon Moon. That was one for warm moon.
Speaker 4: Shout out. Uh, you know, he would go eight for
young young, young, young young.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of another. No, because Elway was
our boss, playing Flynn, it was our boss. So Elway
was left. Springsteen was right because Bruce Springsteen is the boss.
Speaker 2: What are you laughing at you? Who was? Who was?
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of some other numbers. Uh, far
was four? Far was four.
Speaker 3: But like it does get simplified, like a power run right.
For Denver, Pendleton Military Base was power to the left, brag.
A military base had an R in it, power to
the right. So there is some simple things once you
learn it, once you get down to it, and you
can get to the nitty gritty and kind of come
up with those things. But getting there, our protections in
Denver are like you know, sub protections slide dell to
the left, rusting to the right.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I got that. I got that.
Speaker 2: That's what always bothered me about people giving Tony Romo
so much credit for like guess some plays because he
would hear the quarterback.
Speaker 4: Oh, I do it all the time on TV. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2: He was like, you hear l A l A l A,
all right, what's going left?
Speaker 5: Basic quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: You would go with stuff with RS or l's in it,
or you'd go left coast cities, I know, East coast cities,
West coast cities, or you go politicians, left politicians, right politicians.
You would go like all these different ways to create
left and right. And you hear them, and you know,
you hear Clinton. Oh wait, it's going left.
Speaker 4: But Clinton was the left, Reagan was.
Speaker 2: To the right. For us, that's a double because you
got the R and the L.
Speaker 4: My son, my son's like, we get it that. He's like, yeah, okay, yeah,
you get it. All right.
Speaker 3: We also got to take a break. We were long
for said break. That was sports more that o TV
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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Who gets off
the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: I can't bring them and looking didn't had that one's
not terrible locker into the airwaves.
Speaker 4: Oh I think you've been A song plays great song.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to TV.
Speaker 4: Here you go play.
Speaker 2: Now, Say, fella, you haven't heard LSH plays U C
l A about one hour and was that nineteen minutes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we'll get there. Don't worry.
Speaker 3: Uh shout out to Pat who is listening to us
and hits us up on social media.
Speaker 4: I actually just answered this, but I do want to
add something to this. He said.
Speaker 3: We've always heard many yell out the famous Omaha plenty
of times, but I'm pretty sure I've heard him call
out slide deal. Can you confirm if so? Why Slidell
actually just said that? So Slidell was our sub protection
to the left because it has an L in it.
All his past protect were Louisiana cities because he's from Louisiana,
so it certainly helped me out.
Speaker 4: Rustin was to the right.
Speaker 3: The Omaha stuff is funny because I was there for that,
and initially omahall was right. Now, next sound snapped the football,
it was our hurry hurry call. Right, it was Omaha
home Hall. Like next sound after that, omahall was snapped
the ball. I don't care what I say. Well, obviously,
famously the microphones picked it up and so then oh
my god, it.
Speaker 4: Became a deal.
Speaker 3: Like every week, Peyton would come in there and he's like,
all right, this week, omahall's gonna mean this, and we're
gonna use it as a dummy call and they're gonna
think it's this, And like for the first four weeks,
nobody figured that out and people were jumping off sides
every single time.
Speaker 4: And Peyton would get to.
Speaker 3: A point where we were playing the Ravens in the
regular season, and I swear to guys the true story.
He would get in front of the team and be like,
all right, guys, so we played you know, ray Lewis
and edding them. Back in the early two thousands, that
game was nationally televised. Those games have bigger microphones. They
pick up more. So there's a lot of calls when
I was in Indye that we still use today. And
they probably got the calls off that broadcast. And so
we're gonna have to change up these calls because I
went back and I watched that and these calls were
on that and I'm like, WHOA, But like, I appreciate
it so much because that like he went and took
the time, got the broadcast call, and they were like
they were still things that we used like to an extent.
He's like so for this week, this is what this
is going to mean.
Speaker 5: Hey, he's He's spot on though, because I've watched so
much about how Ed Reid and Ray Lewis were just
so long, just the same way how quarterback is they
were the same one.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not trying to be disrespectful to ray Lewis
when I say this, Like ray was a great player.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: He was very smart, Like that was the thing that
made it. Like he makes some big hits every once
in a while, but he was always in the right spot.
I ed Reid, Ed Reid was a problem. Yeah, Like
Ed Reid was just a unicorn. So like when I
played against the Ravens in those days, like you had
to know where ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs and hilodinada
ya to know where they were.
Speaker 2: But Ed you had to pray to Jesus before the play.
You had a lot more experience with the Ed. But
I mean I've heard the stories right, but just to
your point of like watch it. So it was our
third quarterbacks job every week to break down the TV
copy and like a list of all the all the
words that we used that were caught on on audio.
So we would we would go through those just like yea,
we would go through all the things. This is what
we said, that's what we're going to change, blah blah blah.
But we always had a we always had like a
code word, either said in the huddle or it started
out by saying we would say cobra, so cobra was
a snake, snake in the grass. Snake and grass means
this is a lie, like this is this is a
fake call. So so you know, cobra rocket left, rocket
or whatever, rocket, laser, cobra, cobra, coba. Then it got
to the point where you know, different ones, different like
different different words were used to signify dummy. Then it
got to just like hand because we did. We would
do Aaron would come up to the line and he'd
do this like this is like a snakehead. So this
is a cover call and so you're you're at reed.
So Brian Urlacker was our ed Reid like that. Dude
was an absolute problem. Everyone knows him as a big guy,
hard nose dude. Like towards career, he wasn't the same
like physical dude he had been early in his career
but arguably better because he was the guy that was
knew every call. He studied the calls new you know,
we played him twice a year and it was an
absolute problem, and we always Chicago was a classic. We're
gonna play Tampa two. It's gonna be sometimes. We're gonna
play three, three, buzz whatever it. We're gonna play Tampa two.
We're gonna do it really freaking good, and we're gonna
be this classic. Bend, don't break, You're gonna get in
the red zone because you're gonna be able to run
the ball a little bit. I got Lance Briggs, got
Peanut Tillman, and then you have Brian Urlacker that plays
the one probably.
Speaker 4: Had a safety from uill M that was very underrated.
Harris was his last name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember his name of it, but Erlocker
was probably arguably the best Tampa to Mike linebacker of
all time. And then, of course they weren't the originator.
I think it was defense.
Speaker 3: I'd put Irlacker and Derek Brooks into that category. The
only ones in the conversation there. It's kind of like
the originate. Yeah, it right, but they were so good.
Speaker 2: But then we'd have these we'd have these classic battles
Aaron out of one erlocker and they were just like
changing the play back and forth all within like the
nineteen seconds you're at the line of scrimmage, dummy calls,
blah blah blah blah blah, and they were just talking
trash to each other, you know. Sometimes Aaron would win
the mental battles. Sometimes Brian would. Now we beat him
every time, Like I'm just like at the end of
the game. But it was it was they were dudes, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Chris Harris. We did have the
name right. He is now the passing game coordinator for
the New York Jets. So another coach on the field
there for that Bears.
Speaker 2: They shouted out to someone in the I can't remember
who it was, uh said they pulled a thirteen of twenty,
Garrett n that'smyer card. Go ho all right, saying nuts,
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