Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Big Ten Paradigm Podcast
here on the College grid Iron Coast to Coast Podcast Network.
Please welcome in, Noah Drury. It's we cover the Big
Ten throughout this whole entire twenty twenty five college football season.
Speaker 2: Welcome into the Big Ten Paradigm Podcast here on the
College grid Iron Coast to Coast Network. Glad you could
join us here. My name is no Addreury. And what
a week we just had in the final week of
college football. A lot a lot of different angles to
take at this. You know, a lot of these teams
in the Big Ten obviously aren't going to play another
game where if they do, it's gonna be a bowl game,
where players are gonna opt out for the NFL draft
and transfer portal and a bunch of other things. And
this is where it starts to become really dramatic of Oh,
I mean, we've already seen it with the Holane Kiffen thing, right,
I think that's been the biggest story in college football.
I'm not gonna press too much on it here just
because that is not my section of the country to follow,
but we see all the uh, we see all of it.
We see it all. We see it all the time.
We see it every year. You know, a bunch of
dominoes in the coaching carousel, a bunch of end of
season results, and there's been one coaching hire in the
Big ten UCLA and Penn State still waiting to be filled.
It'll be interesting to see how those jobs become filled
and who will fill those jobs. I know Bob Chasney
is a very hot name at UCLA. For Penn State,
I've been seeing Brian Dable. I've also been seeing Kaitlin
de Boor. I don't know which direction they're gonna go,
and maybe, hey, maybe they wait till after the SEC
championship in Alabama gets the three losses and Kaylen de
Boor's like, maybe this isn't the spot for me. I
think the Boar is a great coach. I think he's
one of the best college football coaches you can have
him landing Kirby Smart. Yeah, I mean those I wouldn't
say those are my top three if I really was
to go through a whole list, but those three I
wouldn't let go anywhere. I would keep them around. And
I know how Alabama fans are going to be like, well,
you know, Kaitlyn, Kaitlin de Bor has done a pretty
good job with concerning how much talent left, how much
reworking he had to do with that recruiting class coming in.
And you know, obviously Bama is not going to be
this perennial power that just beats up on everybody, but
nobody is. Nobody is anymore with how the sport is.
Ohio State's the best team in the country and power
rating wise, they are only a field goal better than
everyone else. You know how it used to be before nil,
before this glorified player movement era that we are in
college football, which isn't a bad thing by any means, right,
I think it's a great thing for the sport to have.
You know. The only problem is is that this sport
doesn't have any legal nothing set legally documented, So when
that does happen, we run into a bunch of issues.
And now the talent's very spread out like no one
He's just significantly dominant in talent. And coming into the season,
Ohio State was not perceived as this team that was
going to be super dominant. And they have an amazing secondary,
an amazing defensive line, a pretty damn good quarterback, probably
the best receiving corps, a good offensive line, a freshman
running back that's performing very well. And guess what, they
would only be favored by three because all these other
teams are also very good and anyone is gettable on
any day. And that just didn't used to be the
case in this sport, right so, and that's what happens
when you know everyone can pay everybody. But let's not
get into rants right now. I'll save that more for
the end of the show. Let's start off with game results,
and then we'll preview the Big Ten Championship coming up
between Ohio State and Indiana, the one and two teams,
the only two undefeated teams left in the FBS and
college football. It should be a really good game and
I'm very excited to see that. But first, speaking of Indiana,
dam this isn't a rivalry game for you just yet.
You have a lot to work to do at Purdue. Unfortunately,
that's just how it is. You had everyone transfer out,
you had to bring a lot of transfers in this season,
obviously not the season Purdue wanted to have. I had
a lot of buy into this Purdue team at the
beginning of the season. I was like, yeah, Purdue could
be you know, like a five win team that has
a lot of juice to it. It's a two win
team that just lost Indiana fifty six to three. And
I mean Indiana just dominated. Like this is what Kurt
Signetti does. It's what we've seen him do over time
and time and time again against competition that they have
a significant point spread advantage over. They just continue to
beat them down. And that's exactly what they wanted to
do in this game. They had their way with them.
They go into West Lafayette, you know, just able to
destroy everything in that building, the fan base, the hearts
of Purdue fan. And it's just like having Indiana football
being so good in year two under Kurt Signetti and
really just being good any year, Like like the standard
for Indiana football being good would be like a seven
eight win season. If we were talking about this team
five years ago, ten years ago, fifteen years ago, like
if they got to seven eight wins, you'd be like, oh, yeah,
that's a pretty good Indiana f No, dude, they they
what one won eleven games last season, twelve so far
this season. They have a chance to be Big Ten
conference champions. And be undefeated. Like the amount of remarkable
stuff that Signetti is doing with this program is one
I did not think this would happen in two you know,
Like it's not like it's a bunch of blue chip
talent coming in. A lot of them are transfers from
the FCS Group of five, you know, a lot of
them former James Madison players. They're not these blue chip
guys that are all coming in. It's not like what
you would get at Ohio State or what you would
get out of Michigan or get at a USC or
get at an orient or any school with you know,
real program tradition. You know, Indiana is just simply saying
we're gonna go out there, We're going to beat you
all sixty minutes, and we're gonna do it with maybe
not the not the most high profile talent, but they're
really talented players. And the talent identification on the staff
has done a really good job. They've done a really
good job identifying talent and doing that in the Big
ten when you're a less resource program per se to
Ohio State, which is they have money. They have money too,
they're starting to pay kids. So yeah, Indiana, they might
have a coach of a lifetime as long as he
wants to stay there. With what he's done in these
two seasons now, he might have raised the floor in
expectations for the Indiana Boosters and Indiana Athletic administration. But also
I think he might be able to stay there for
a very long time as well. So congrat Indiana.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: This has been an incredible regular season. They're gonna most
likely have a buye in the playoff, and I think
their team that is capable of winning the national championship.
Believe it or not, iowill win a cap off the season.
Going into this year, I was like, oh, what do
we expect to this team? You know, eight and four?
With the schedule that they had. I mean, look, they
had to play Iowa State, they had to play Indiana,
they had to play well Penn State didn't end up
being good, had to play Oregon, had to play usc
and they Yeah, they lost to all the teams that
were better than them, but they beat everybody that they
were better then. And just a dominating win over Nebraska.
Obviously Nebraska and not the same team without Dylan Royola
and TJ Latif is not good. EMMITTT Johnson tried to
put the backpack on in this game. He had like
two hundred and thirty yards by himself. But yeah, Iowa
just did a really good job of game controlling here.
Just didn't make too many mistakes. They played pretty sound defensively. Offensively,
they were able to just keep it going on the
ground over two hundred yards rushing on the ground. Gronowski
made plays when he needed to. Like, they did a
really good job. I was with the friend because we've
watched this game, not for any like particular reason, but
we keep watching this game every year because we're hanging
out while this game is going on or hanging out,
I'll just keep looking at the TV. I'm like, what, Wow,
Iowa's dominating this game. Iowa continues to dominate, and Iowa
was a good football program. Kirk Farns is one of
the most legendary head coach. Figures. Maybe he's never gonna
win a national title. I don't even know if he's
won a Big ten title. He is going to put,
you know, a really like an imprint on this Iowa
football program and really a Big ten coach in a
national coach just you know, obviously he's got his different philosophy.
They're gonna game plan to you know, playfield position and
you know, try to win in the small margins. Even
though that teams have gotten a lot more analytical and
aggressive nowadays. But he does a good job with with
this Iowa program. And it's another eight win team, another
solid year for the Hawkeys. You know what, you gotta
be proud of them. Man, they're a good football team.
Where do we want to go? Oh, the game that
happened this Saturday, Ohio State and Michigan. I know I
probably should have led off with it. I like to
get to the Friday games first, or the games that
happened earlier in the week. Michigan they tried, they tried
early in this game. They go down and score a
field goal on the opening drive, and they force Ohio
State into an interception from Julian sand And soon as
I saw Zavada go out there, yeah, I mean as
soon as it was six to oh I knew that
Ohio State was winning this game. I know that it's
very easy to say in hindsight, but watching this game
with a couple of my friends on Saturdays, I spent
a lot of time with friends this weekend, which is
very weird because because I mean, mainly I'm working a
lot on weekends and I'm also at my girlfriend's apartment
in East Lansing as well. But this weekend, and I
still spent a lot of time with her, her family
and my family. I spent a lot of time with
a lot of different people.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It took a back seat to doing a lot of work,
Like I did some games Tuesday and Wednesday. But I
mean it was a pretty light week right, And I
was with some friends watching this game as soon as
I saw Savada go out there, and I mean, they
forced Ohio State to a field goal, but I'm just like,
they're not gonna be able to win by by getting
field goals against this Ohio State team. And obviously the
Jeremiah Smith touchdown could have been a touchback, right, I
think in hindsight, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Ohio
State took control of this game. They had a twelve
minute drive that really kind of put the put an
end too it. Bo Jackson had a good game, Carnell
State one of the best receivers. I mean, this Ohio
State team is just so damn good and they only
got one zech On Underwood, but they just did a
really good job of making sure Michigan just didn't do anything.
Like Jordan Marshall popped a couple of explosives. Michigan had
four plays for like one hundred and five yards, and
then like the other thirty five plays they had like
fifty eight like Michigan, And this is what their recipe
to success has been against Ohio State in prior years,
Like they've just been able to pop a few explosive runs.
And if you're Michigan, that's what you got to do,
especially with you know, the pass catchers not being anything
special on this team. And Andrew marsh is great, but
with how talented this secondary is, they took him out
of the game. It was pretty obvious it was a
good game plan to have. Honestly, I mean, not having
Justice Haynes either as another explosive weapon does hurt. It
does hurt. I don't think it makes it difference in
and this being an eighteen point victory for the Buckeyes.
But yeah, I mean Michigan Underwood eight for eighteen, Like,
I don't know if that's his fault. I think it's
just how this roster was created. I mean, we saw
them in two other big games against USC a game
they were outmatched in talent wise. They they struggled. They
struggled in that game hard like they beat Nebraska, but
like Nebraska hung in there, and I think a couple
of things go different for Nebraska could be their game. Uh,
Oklahoma severely outmatched. They played close with Perdue, they played
close with Northwestern, like this Michigan team was very capable
of getting beat. Even New Mexico gave this team problem.
So shout out to New Mexico.
Speaker 3: Up.
Speaker 2: They had a pretty solid season. But point being, I mean,
this Michigan team just wasn't that good this year. They
were good on the defensive side. They still had a
lot of dudes. They still have a lot of players
that are gonna be playing on Sundays. Offensively, this team sucked.
This team sucked all season and I know they beat
Michigan State. Michigan State sucked too. Like other than the
cream of the crop of the teams in the Big Ten,
like there's a few middle tier ones, but mostly a
lot of these teams were not good this season. And
Michigan I don't like. Yes, they finished ninety three, like
still a good season. They did not They could have
done so much better with this team. You know, Sharon
Moore is a year two, and I know there's still
a little bit of hey, you know, like we we
still need another year to maybe figure some things out.
And I don't think they had a complete They got
Pecolia in the transfer portal. Yes, McCauley's took the year
off last season. He wasn't on that Indiana team that
was good, and I mean he was okay, Like there
was definitely some identification problems on the offensive side. And truly,
you throw Bryce out there when he's not ready, Like,
I don't know what you expected in this game specifically,
And I know Justice hayneses great running back. He's still
won games without them down the stretch. And truth to truth,
to be told, a running back doesn't unless he's literally
like Ashton Gent does not change your game that much.
Jordan Marshall still performed pretty well throughout the season. So
and unfortunately, when you're one dimensional and Ohio State can
keep you that way, they just won. They took care
of business. And shout out to the Buckeyes, Oregon, Washington.
This was a good game. This is a this is
impressive from Oregon because while Michigan can make excuses about
the injuries that they have, or any team in the
country be like, oh, we're injured, Oregon's injured. They're without
their top three receivers right now, and they just don't
give a shit, right Like I hate to get vulgar,
and I really don't on this show, but they just
simply damn Landing just gets them fired up and they
go in and they win football game. So they only
lost one in Indiana, and Indiana might be the second
best team in the country and Oregon could probably get
them on one of those days, right. Dante Moore one
of the best quarterbacks in the country. I know, he's
had a few games where it's like, uh, there's this
guy really gonna He's a first round quarterback. He's talented.
He's very talented. He's a good player. He is the
difference in why you know a team might be more
like Washington or a team might be like more like Oregon.
Like he does so many winning things, and he, like
Damon Williams, tried to do way too much in this game.
He couldn't make accurate throws down the field. He kept
happening to shuttle it, settle it short. He's not someone
that wants to keep taking the short plays Oregon. Dante
More is like, I'll just keep throwing it down and
shout out Millik Benson. He has another big game, step
it up. And it's funny because Malik Benson sucked at
Florida State and Bama. And that's not to like completely
discredit in League Benson. He could still go on to
be a phenomenal player. He's definitely got the athletic tools
to keep himself alive for Sundays. But yeah, I mean
a huge game from him, and I mean, well, Oregon
couldn't completely run the ball against this team, but they
continue to distribute it out. Kenyan Sadiq, Yeah, Washington focused
in on him. Guess what. Jamari Johnson, Jeremiah McClellan, other
guys were being able to be utilized and defensively, just
Oregon had a great game plan for this Washington team.
Mohammed's a great running back, Jonah Coleman obviously playing hurt
in Denzel Boston like they did a really good job
of containing him. They just, like I've said it all season,
it's just three star players for this Washington team and
kind of just everybody else, Demon Williams, Jonah Coleman, and
Denzel Boston and Mohammed's a good running back too, so
I'm not going to completely discredit him, but like, yeah,
it's just not like there's no depth on this Washington team.
And when you're playing a team that's better than you,
probably with the tap talent, they're definitely gonna be better
with you than the depth. And I mean Jed Fish
in year two, eight and four season, they had a
winning year last year, Like do you see the winner
your progression? And I think, you know, with another year
with this kid at the helm and you can get
some talent around, I'm like, yeah, you're gonna lose, probably
lose Coleman, You're probably gonna lose Boston. But there's a
transfer portal. There's guys you can bring in develop in
your receiver room. I think you could work it out.
And defensively, this team's been pretty decent all season, so
and if they can retain a lot of those pieces
and you know, make additions where they need to, I
really like Washington for next year for being a contender
in the Big Ten. So there's that I like a
good game, a good game, and playing in Husky Stadium
is hard to Oregon still did a really good job
coming out as victors in this scheme. Where do we
go to next? Yes, Minnesota, wis kehonsin this game, battle
for Paul Bunyan's acts, wes kyonsin. Couldn't Wisconsin themselves into this.
Hunter Simmons gets the majority of quarterback snaps. And this
was just the ugliest football game that you could watch.
I mean, Darius Taylor had a great day. That's it's
pretty good, pretty normal stuff like this just was a
not so great football game. Let's look at the drive
chart for both teams. First quarter punt fumble, missed field goal, punt,
punt punt field gold, Minnesota punt, touchdown, Minnesota, touchdown Wisconsin.
And half second half interception punt, interception, touchdown, Minnesota punt
punt punt turnover on downs, end of game.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: Classic Big Ten football in the Big Ten West. Yeah, sure,
sure if you enjoy that stuff. I mean, shout out
to Minnesota getting seven wins on the season, a team
that going into the season I wouldn't expected to make
a bowl game, right, and you know what they're able
to beat uh They're able to beat the opponents that
they need to. They were able to win their games
that they needed to. And man, I mean, look, you're
going to a bowl game at Minnesota. You got a
young freshman quarterback, red shirt freshman. Yes, But like I
think Drake Lindsay is a piece that you could build around.
I think you could keep Darius Taylor for one more
year like.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 2: This isn't a bad season by Minnesota at all. And
they were able to beat Nebraska too. Obviously you would
have liked the cow win non conference playing. Hey, that
puts you at nine wins, right, So while they still
have a lot of work to do, and I don't
even know if they're cut out for being a premier
program in the Big Ten. Like keep doing this, man,
you're gonna you're gonna find a sneaky year. You're gonna
find a sneaky year Wisconsin front. I don't know what
they do with Luke Fickle. I mean, they didn't fire
him today and I don't know if he will be
he will be fired. I'm pretty sure he's planned to
come back next season. But something tells me Wisconsin has
a really hard schedule or I mean they might just
really believe in the guy. He was good at Cincinnati,
So I don't know. I mean, it is what it is.
Wisconsin football is not what it used to be. Ah
Penn State and Rutgers a shootout. Kay trot Allen has
a really fantastic game, so does Nick Singleton. The running
backs combined for over three hundred yards and three touchdowns,
averaging I think together that's like what like ten yards
per carry? Yeah, man, I mean Athian calaik Manisling did
around Antoine Raymond look good. These teams just didn't give
a crap about they It wasn't the Big ten. It
was Big twelve today for these two teams. And you
know what, Penn State, even with the terrible season and
terrible thing that happened to this team during the year,
I mean, losing to Northwestern UCLA and Oregon in a row,
dropping to three and six, and then still being able
to come back and make a bowl game, Like that's
quite the accomplishment. I don't know what that Penn State
job looks like. And that's something that I want to
touch on later in the video or video podcast, Like
what do you do with this program? What direction do you.
I know, Terry Smith is a guy, but truth is,
the Knight Den of Sutton is gonna be gone. You're
gonna have a couple of other guys drafted on the defense.
There's still gonna be guys that want to hop in
the portal and you know, they might want to go
to Virginia Tech. A lot of recruits, you know where
James Franklin's going to coach next season. A lot of
those guys are probably going to flip to Virginia Tech.
So who are you going to bring in? And look,
it could be a coordinator, it could be a head coach.
I to be honest, I don't know what you would do.
I don't know what direction they want to go. And
Brian Dable is also a great option too, because I
think that he was, honestly Delta a really bad hand
with the Giants and before Cam Skataboo got hurt, and uh,
I think if he would have started Jackson Dart earlier,
I think he might still be coaching for the g Men,
but unfortunately, just not how it works. And I think
Dave Ball is still capable of being a really good coach.
We'll see, though, We'll see does he want to even
come back to college. I don't know, he might, he
might not. Like there's there's nothing to really say he
would go either way. Right, So, uh, on the Rutgers side,
he missed out on a bowl game, I mean, who
cares honestly, Like I'm not saying Rutgers fans like, oh,
you guys shouldn't care. You guys should, but I mean
you lost the teams that were better than you, and yeah, man,
it's just you had a fun season offensively with your
running back quarterback Ian Strong. You had kJ Duff, Like
I think dus is probably gonna be a guy that
enters the portal and joins a contender. But hey, if
you haven't for next season, that's great. All right on
to the next one. I think we only have two
three more games to cover. Let's go. Let's go to
Illinois Northwestern, the the Snowfest. Preston Stone three picks in
this game. Didn't have Kumalafe, you know, I mean you No,
Illinois didn't even do anything special in this game. I
think they just didn't turn the ball over compared to
like they they had two fumbles or they had a
fumble from Luke Altmeyer that was it, and Northwestern had
four turnovers and obviously in a snow game, things get
super wicked, right, like hard to have like a controlled
outcome in that because any team could you know, persevere
through bad weather with a couple of lucky plays going
their way, right. I mean, Illinois had a lot of
preseason expectations coming into the year. They obviously had Gabe Jackets,
you know, all American type player coming back on the
defensive side. They had a ton of returning talent on
the offensive line. Luke Altmeyer, you know, was like, Oh,
it's gonna happen with the receiver room. Hank Beaty, you know,
performed really well, and honestly, I think the problem with
this team is they just couldn't establish a ground game.
I don't know if it was the running backs or
offensive line, but you know, I'm saying all this. They
still went eight and four this season. They beat Duke,
who is in the ACC Conference championship. Oh my goodness.
I mean, like they did things. And obviously I think
after that Indiana loss, like things did go down hope,
but they still got a good win versus USC. The
lost to Wesconsin is obviously one that you didn't want
to have, but you know you still finished the year
eight and four. Any season that was weird, and I
mean you get you got really low at some points
and you know, bounce back and get a win versus Northwestern.
Like Brett Beelove was a good football coach man and honestly,
like Luke Altmeyer had a pretty decent season this year.
Like it wasn't great. He was like what I would
call Jack plus, but I mean, hey, you know you
got you got a good You got a good amount
of time out of him. I mean he was accurate.
He did what you wanted to do. He wasn't gonna
lead you to anything super successful, but he also you know,
he did his job man, And I mean that's what
you want if you're Illinois. So with that being said,
the fighting a line, I will go to play on
a bowl game and yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh you usc Us.
Speaker 2: You see l A.
Speaker 3: You see LA tried. They did.
Speaker 2: They didn't really succeed, they tried on the usc front.
I mean a good season for usc man. I'm very
happy for him. Mkaya Levon is going to be a
top pick in this draft. Kobe Wayne I think still
has another year before he oh no, he.
Speaker 3: Is a junior.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he might be gone to He might come
back for one more though, and try to be like
that number one receiver. It'll be interesting to see Jane Mayeva.
I think you probably get him back for another year.
I don't think he would go to the draft. I
mean he would probably be I don't know what his
draft evaluation, great would be. He might test. I mean
he is six four, two thirty with a pretty decent
stat line. He's definitely got some highlights to show. I mean, look,
you lost Wayman Jordan, you lost a ton of running
backs this season. You had to go to King Miller,
which King Miller, you know, honestly stepped up pretty pretty phenomenally.
I mean defensively, this is the best it's ever been
under Lincoln Riley, right, And that was a lot of
the whole you know, team identity was we're gonna be
a more physical football team this season, and they they
they played physical. Man, obviously, you know, did deteriorate. You know,
some of the skill talent they might have had, sure,
but or like big plays they would have. Yeah, maybe,
but like I mean still, you had a lot of
good performers throughout the season, and I think USC is
a team that could get better. I mean, they got
a kid in Hussan Longstreet that I think could be
very good. And they're doing a really good job recruiting
right now as well. So early national signing days gonna
come up. We're gonna see how all the class classes
you know, fill out and whatnot. Obviously we'll have the
transfer Bortal window two. But I'm very excited to see
what USC does in twenty twenty six under Lincoln Riley
and the staff. I think that's a huge make or
break season two. So on the UCLA front man, we'll
see who decides to be the head coach there. I
don't know what they would do with Nico, if they
want to keep them or have them go away. I
think it would be a plus if you kept him
compared to what you have as backups. But I think
he might want to also go somewhere else if he's
welcome anywhere else. I mean, we'll see, We'll see, all right.
Final game, and I saved this one for last. Michigan
State ends its eight game losing streak by beating Maryland,
and they and on an eight game losing streak. Yeah,
I I don't know about Maryland. I mean Milake Washington
threw the ball for four hundred and fifty nine yards
on sixty one attempts. I mean this this was just
two seasons that after non conference play ended, both of
these teams went seasons went south. But shout out to
Michigan State. They won, They won a game in Big
Ten play, and Jonathan Smith gets fired at the end
with yeah, obviously with the news announced today and Pat Fitzgerald,
you know, being announced as the head coach, I'll get
to my thoughts and feelings on this first game wise,
I mean Mila Voyevic played pretty well, honestly in the game.
I four touchdowns, almost three hundred yards, decently efficient. They
were able to run the ball pretty okay as well.
I think defense of Leywhow wasn't fantastic. You know, they did.
Speaker 3: Their job, man, they did their job.
Speaker 2: I know Makai Frazier's entering the transfer portal or excuse
me that you can't enter yet, but plans to enter
the transfer portal. Anyone else saw off this Michigan State
team I can find quickly. I don't think so, but yeah,
but I mean you're gonna have guys enter uh.
Speaker 3: And looking.
Speaker 2: I actually found their schedule next season for Michigan State, Toledo,
Eastern Michigan. Oh, they play at Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: Oh, Okay, this is not gonna be a fun season.
Speaker 2: Michigan, Illinois, Nebraska, Northwestern Oregon, Washington, Rutgers, U c l A,
wes Kehonsin. Okay, I mean, you know it's it's gonna
be a decently tough year. First year.
Speaker 3: I want to know. I want to know what.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm completely blanking out. I want to know what
the plan is with Pat Fitzgerald. And obviously I respect
Pat Fitzgerald and what he did at Northwestern. Obviously, the
whole scandal that happened, you know when he got fired
in the middle of July and David Brown had to
step in, and you know, Pat Fitzgerald was able to
get past it. And now he's going to be a
head coach. What dirty laundry does he bring? Right? Obviously,
you know you obviously had this plan and in the
comings of you know, Jonathan Smith, you know, you knew
his time was going to end. And respect to the
athletic administration, Jay Batt didn't make this higher. Let's keep
that in mind, they let him finish the season out
because the players liked playing for him. And I think
Jonathan Smith is capable of being a good head coach
somewhere that's not completely in the spotlight, and Michigan State's
school that wants to be in the spotlight. Obviously, we're
known for being a basketball school. But you know, there's
been points where this Michigan State team has been really
good and been able to do successful things. Three National
championships in the past, college Football Playoff appearance in twenty fifteen,
multiple Big Ten Championship appearances, Rose Bowl winners, you know,
been in the Group of Six or New Year's Six
conference bowls you know, or not conference bowl games. Sorry,
Like they're capable of having special seasons. Now, what what
are they going to do because they haven't been good
since twenty twenty one and they've been nowhere close to
good since twenty twenty one. Obviously, melt Tucker ruined a
lot of things for this Michigan State program. I think
I'm on the record saying that melt Sucker was fiery
and cool and at first, but then he started to
lose control of this program and did something that was
an excuseable to say the least. And now I think, honestly,
John the Smith was dealt a terrible hand. He had
to rebuild through the portal a lot. And you know,
he brought a lot of his guys, yes, from Oregon State,
but it's a different culture.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: He couldn't get a focus on recruiting at all, Like
he cannot recruit this area. A lot of the out
of state talent, which I mean a lot of schools
recruit out of state, but it was like nobody from
Michigan working in the high school football space in Michigan.
There's plenty of kids that are pretty talented at a
lot of these schools, and I think truly that Michigan
is probably one of the more under recruited areas in
the country. Like I mean, there's still, you know, guys
with star ratings and stuff, but I truly think that
there is a lot of good football players that don't
get recognized in this state. And what do I know,
because I don't work in the recruiting service or space,
but you know, I mean, look at all these Gleiac
schools that are killing it in Division two football, like
Grand Valley State State, Saganaw Valley Like a lot of
those players are Michigan. Players like that are probably under recruited,
and you know it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what do you do.
Speaker 2: Recruiting wise at Michigan State? And what is the plan
with Pat Fitzgerald? What is the vision? Because I mean
he had Northwestern had great points throughout his coaching tenure
and ugly and they weren't good. But there's a good
chance that yeah, like they could do good things. They
could do good things. I I personally like the Higher.
I would give it like a bee. I have no
idea if it's gonna work out. I think I was
a little bit more optimistic on the Jonathan Smith Higher
at the time. I thought like, oh man, this is
gonna be the greatest thing since light spread. It wasn't,
but you know that's that's how it works out in
the big ten. Yeah, we still have the UCLA and
Penn State job waiting to be open. Let's take a
look at the good old eight people came out today. Right,
I'm gonna be honest, I haven't lucked. I've been so
used to college. Okay, yeah, there's new eight people. So
ohigho State in Indiana.
Speaker 3: One and two.
Speaker 2: Oregon is at four man they dropped, texting them down
to seven. Dang dang Okay, Texas to fourteen, which I
guess I don't know. USC seventeen, Michigan eighteen.
Speaker 3: That is it?
Speaker 2: In terms of Big Ten teams ranked, where do they ring?
Speaker 3: Notre Dame nine?
Speaker 2: Okay, still crazy that Miami's behind them? But whatever? Washington, Illinois? Wait?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: How can North Dakota State hold on?
Speaker 3: What the okay?
Speaker 2: Iowa got fifty one out of their receiving votes, I
could be ranked? Is there any other? Is there any
four loss team in here?
Speaker 3: Oh? Missouri? Dude?
Speaker 2: I was way better than Missouri. Missouri stinks. Okay, all right,
one last thing before we get out here, and I
want to thank you for tuning into the Big Ten
paradigm throughout this season, and you know, stick with us
because I think we'll be doing a couple more episodes.
Ohio State and Indiana play for the Big Ten Conference
championship down in Indianapolis. Right now, Ohio State is minus
five and a half point favorites plus one eighty on
the Indiana money line over under forty eight and a half.
All right, so obviously Ohio State's been this dominant team
throughout the whole season. Their closest game was Texas, so
it was fourteen to seven first week of the season,
and they've kind of just been able to control their
destiny throughout the rest of the season. Okay, the best
team that they probably played was either Washington or Michigan
throughout the entire Big Ten season, right, and the rest
of the season play and they nominated. They dominated everybody.
But this this is an Indiana team that's pretty darn good.
This Indiana team has also been twelve to zero and
you know, ten point game versus Oregon, they had that
close one versus Penn State. Excuse me, Yeah, this game
could go a lot of different directions. I personally would
take Ohio State to win this game, just judging off
of how they've been, but this is I could be
completely wrong about this prediction, right, because Indiana's been a
pretty good ball club all season, and I think this
offense could really challenge Ohio State because there's multiple receivers
that can be utilized in this one. Omar Cooper, E. J. Williams,
Elijah Surratt, you got two running backs and Roman Hemby
and oh forgetting the other running backs, and but there's
multiple running backs that could be used in this game
and they can have a pretty good performance.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Defensively, they're pretty good. D'Angelo Pond's is one of my
favorite corners. They have Aiden Fisher at linebacker. They have
a good filled out eleven men on the defensive side
of the football, and they've been able to be good
defensively this season, which maybe you didn't say the same
thing about last season when they played good opponents or
opponents they gave them trouble. Right, So this isn't the
Indiana team last year. They have a big win versus
Oregon on the road in Austin Stadium. It was a
ten point victory. This game's being taken in Indianapolis. Both
teams will have a lot of fans that show up.
And honestly, who do I like?
Speaker 3: Who? What do I think?
Speaker 2: I think that Ohio State. You know, if they can
keep Indiana other thirty points, they'll win, and I think
their offense is capable of putting up a lot of points.
Still on the Ohio State side, you have a great
quarterback in Julian Sand, You have a great wide receivers
and Jeremiah Smith think Carnell s eate. How do the
Indiana dbs and can they get pass rush on Julian
sand Is that something that Ohio State has UH has
done really good job this year, and they've they've done
a good job, you know, being good defensively, They've they've
done a good job covering downfield. But this is a
different monster. This is the Ohio State buck guys, the
team that has power rated the best in the country,
and Indiana's pretty power power rated pretty high as well.
But I don't know, it's tough to really see, you know, you.
Speaker 3: Know who who?
Speaker 2: Who is it going to be right between these these
two teams. It should be a great game. I'm excited
to watch it. I will be glued to this game.
I can't wait to have a full report, and I
will get Zach Browning or Tyler Danberg depending on who
wins the next day and talk on the show about
the game. And then obviously the College Football Playoff will
come out and we'll see who is on the playoff
field and probably talk about that as well. Both these
teams should get a bye. I think Oregon's gonna be
the only team that plays in the first round from
the Big ten. So with that being said, this is
going to be the end of the Big ten Paradigm show,
obviously a little bit more of a short episode and
we'll see how they're coaching Carousel continue to progress throughout
the season. But glad you could join us along here.
I will see you next week and enjoy the rest
of your Thanksgiving break in, have a good first week
in December, everybody, Thank you for tuning in.