1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,839 Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Big Ten Paradigm Podcast 2 00:00:03,879 --> 00:00:08,480 here on the College grid Iron Coast to Coast Podcast Network. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,359 Please welcome in, Noah Drury. It's we cover the Big 4 00:00:12,439 --> 00:00:16,800 Ten throughout this whole entire twenty twenty five college football season. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: Welcome into the Big Ten Paradigm Podcast here on the 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,199 College grid Iron Coast to Coast Network. Glad you could 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,839 join us here. My name is no Addreury. And what 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,600 a week we just had in the final week of 9 00:00:30,719 --> 00:00:34,079 college football. A lot a lot of different angles to 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,799 take at this. You know, a lot of these teams 11 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:39,119 in the Big Ten obviously aren't going to play another 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,920 game where if they do, it's gonna be a bowl game, 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,479 where players are gonna opt out for the NFL draft 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,759 and transfer portal and a bunch of other things. And 15 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:48,960 this is where it starts to become really dramatic of Oh, 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,479 I mean, we've already seen it with the Holane Kiffen thing, right, 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,079 I think that's been the biggest story in college football. 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,920 I'm not gonna press too much on it here just 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,759 because that is not my section of the country to follow, 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,320 but we see all the uh, we see all of it. 21 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:05,239 We see it all. We see it all the time. 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,560 We see it every year. You know, a bunch of 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,079 dominoes in the coaching carousel, a bunch of end of 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,719 season results, and there's been one coaching hire in the 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:21,640 Big ten UCLA and Penn State still waiting to be filled. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,359 It'll be interesting to see how those jobs become filled 27 00:01:26,359 --> 00:01:28,760 and who will fill those jobs. I know Bob Chasney 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,000 is a very hot name at UCLA. For Penn State, 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,079 I've been seeing Brian Dable. I've also been seeing Kaitlin 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,719 de Boor. I don't know which direction they're gonna go, 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,079 and maybe, hey, maybe they wait till after the SEC 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,920 championship in Alabama gets the three losses and Kaylen de 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,840 Boor's like, maybe this isn't the spot for me. I 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,359 think the Boar is a great coach. I think he's 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,359 one of the best college football coaches you can have 36 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:56,040 him landing Kirby Smart. Yeah, I mean those I wouldn't 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,040 say those are my top three if I really was 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,920 to go through a whole list, but those three I 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,359 wouldn't let go anywhere. I would keep them around. And 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,480 I know how Alabama fans are going to be like, well, 41 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:08,840 you know, Kaitlyn, Kaitlin de Bor has done a pretty 42 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,919 good job with concerning how much talent left, how much 43 00:02:12,039 --> 00:02:15,000 reworking he had to do with that recruiting class coming in. 44 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,159 And you know, obviously Bama is not going to be 45 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,840 this perennial power that just beats up on everybody, but 46 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:24,400 nobody is. Nobody is anymore with how the sport is. 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,960 Ohio State's the best team in the country and power 48 00:02:28,039 --> 00:02:30,800 rating wise, they are only a field goal better than 49 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,719 everyone else. You know how it used to be before nil, 50 00:02:33,879 --> 00:02:37,919 before this glorified player movement era that we are in 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,360 college football, which isn't a bad thing by any means, right, 52 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,400 I think it's a great thing for the sport to have. 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,159 You know. The only problem is is that this sport 54 00:02:47,199 --> 00:02:52,680 doesn't have any legal nothing set legally documented, So when 55 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,120 that does happen, we run into a bunch of issues. 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,879 And now the talent's very spread out like no one 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,680 He's just significantly dominant in talent. And coming into the season, 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,039 Ohio State was not perceived as this team that was 59 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,479 going to be super dominant. And they have an amazing secondary, 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,319 an amazing defensive line, a pretty damn good quarterback, probably 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,879 the best receiving corps, a good offensive line, a freshman 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,039 running back that's performing very well. And guess what, they 63 00:03:20,039 --> 00:03:22,639 would only be favored by three because all these other 64 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,560 teams are also very good and anyone is gettable on 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,479 any day. And that just didn't used to be the 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,919 case in this sport, right so, and that's what happens 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,479 when you know everyone can pay everybody. But let's not 68 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:38,199 get into rants right now. I'll save that more for 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,400 the end of the show. Let's start off with game results, 70 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:45,680 and then we'll preview the Big Ten Championship coming up 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,560 between Ohio State and Indiana, the one and two teams, 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,919 the only two undefeated teams left in the FBS and 73 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,360 college football. It should be a really good game and 74 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:58,680 I'm very excited to see that. But first, speaking of Indiana, 75 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,280 dam this isn't a rivalry game for you just yet. 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,400 You have a lot to work to do at Purdue. Unfortunately, 77 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:09,599 that's just how it is. You had everyone transfer out, 78 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:11,560 you had to bring a lot of transfers in this season, 79 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,360 obviously not the season Purdue wanted to have. I had 80 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,360 a lot of buy into this Purdue team at the 81 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:20,439 beginning of the season. I was like, yeah, Purdue could 82 00:04:20,439 --> 00:04:23,720 be you know, like a five win team that has 83 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:25,319 a lot of juice to it. It's a two win 84 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:29,319 team that just lost Indiana fifty six to three. And 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,079 I mean Indiana just dominated. Like this is what Kurt 86 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,920 Signetti does. It's what we've seen him do over time 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,199 and time and time again against competition that they have 88 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,879 a significant point spread advantage over. They just continue to 89 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,399 beat them down. And that's exactly what they wanted to 90 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:51,800 do in this game. They had their way with them. 91 00:04:51,879 --> 00:04:55,560 They go into West Lafayette, you know, just able to 92 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:59,319 destroy everything in that building, the fan base, the hearts 93 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:05,279 of Purdue fan. And it's just like having Indiana football 94 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:08,160 being so good in year two under Kurt Signetti and 95 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,519 really just being good any year, Like like the standard 96 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,040 for Indiana football being good would be like a seven 97 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:17,160 eight win season. If we were talking about this team 98 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:20,120 five years ago, ten years ago, fifteen years ago, like 99 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,360 if they got to seven eight wins, you'd be like, oh, yeah, 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,560 that's a pretty good Indiana f No, dude, they they 101 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,959 what one won eleven games last season, twelve so far 102 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,639 this season. They have a chance to be Big Ten 103 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:36,279 conference champions. And be undefeated. Like the amount of remarkable 104 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:39,199 stuff that Signetti is doing with this program is one 105 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,639 I did not think this would happen in two you know, 106 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,040 Like it's not like it's a bunch of blue chip 107 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:47,279 talent coming in. A lot of them are transfers from 108 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,160 the FCS Group of five, you know, a lot of 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,480 them former James Madison players. They're not these blue chip 110 00:05:55,519 --> 00:05:57,879 guys that are all coming in. It's not like what 111 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,759 you would get at Ohio State or what you would 112 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,600 get out of Michigan or get at a USC or 113 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,360 get at an orient or any school with you know, 114 00:06:05,519 --> 00:06:10,959 real program tradition. You know, Indiana is just simply saying 115 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,920 we're gonna go out there, We're going to beat you 116 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,519 all sixty minutes, and we're gonna do it with maybe 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,800 not the not the most high profile talent, but they're 118 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,560 really talented players. And the talent identification on the staff 119 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,000 has done a really good job. They've done a really 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,480 good job identifying talent and doing that in the Big 121 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:33,160 ten when you're a less resource program per se to 122 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,879 Ohio State, which is they have money. They have money too, 123 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:42,079 they're starting to pay kids. So yeah, Indiana, they might 124 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,160 have a coach of a lifetime as long as he 125 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:46,279 wants to stay there. With what he's done in these 126 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:49,360 two seasons now, he might have raised the floor in 127 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:55,079 expectations for the Indiana Boosters and Indiana Athletic administration. But also 128 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,000 I think he might be able to stay there for 129 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,560 a very long time as well. So congrat Indiana. 130 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: Man. 131 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: This has been an incredible regular season. They're gonna most 132 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,439 likely have a buye in the playoff, and I think 133 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,360 their team that is capable of winning the national championship. 134 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,839 Believe it or not, iowill win a cap off the season. 135 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:16,519 Going into this year, I was like, oh, what do 136 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,360 we expect to this team? You know, eight and four? 137 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:22,639 With the schedule that they had. I mean, look, they 138 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:24,920 had to play Iowa State, they had to play Indiana, 139 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:28,240 they had to play well Penn State didn't end up 140 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,000 being good, had to play Oregon, had to play usc 141 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,920 and they Yeah, they lost to all the teams that 142 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:37,079 were better than them, but they beat everybody that they 143 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,160 were better then. And just a dominating win over Nebraska. 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,560 Obviously Nebraska and not the same team without Dylan Royola 145 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,480 and TJ Latif is not good. EMMITTT Johnson tried to 146 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,480 put the backpack on in this game. He had like 147 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,560 two hundred and thirty yards by himself. But yeah, Iowa 148 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:58,279 just did a really good job of game controlling here. 149 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:04,120 Just didn't make too many mistakes. They played pretty sound defensively. Offensively, 150 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,720 they were able to just keep it going on the 151 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,279 ground over two hundred yards rushing on the ground. Gronowski 152 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:11,240 made plays when he needed to. Like, they did a 153 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:13,639 really good job. I was with the friend because we've 154 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,519 watched this game, not for any like particular reason, but 155 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:19,199 we keep watching this game every year because we're hanging 156 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,560 out while this game is going on or hanging out, 157 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,240 I'll just keep looking at the TV. I'm like, what, Wow, 158 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,399 Iowa's dominating this game. Iowa continues to dominate, and Iowa 159 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:33,000 was a good football program. Kirk Farns is one of 160 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,559 the most legendary head coach. Figures. Maybe he's never gonna 161 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,720 win a national title. I don't even know if he's 162 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,919 won a Big ten title. He is going to put, 163 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,559 you know, a really like an imprint on this Iowa 164 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,559 football program and really a Big ten coach in a 165 00:08:49,639 --> 00:08:53,480 national coach just you know, obviously he's got his different philosophy. 166 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,519 They're gonna game plan to you know, playfield position and 167 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,399 you know, try to win in the small margins. Even 168 00:08:59,399 --> 00:09:02,000 though that teams have gotten a lot more analytical and 169 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:06,519 aggressive nowadays. But he does a good job with with 170 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,320 this Iowa program. And it's another eight win team, another 171 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,360 solid year for the Hawkeys. You know what, you gotta 172 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:15,559 be proud of them. Man, they're a good football team. 173 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:18,360 Where do we want to go? Oh, the game that 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,799 happened this Saturday, Ohio State and Michigan. I know I 175 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:25,519 probably should have led off with it. I like to 176 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:28,200 get to the Friday games first, or the games that 177 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:34,399 happened earlier in the week. Michigan they tried, they tried 178 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,000 early in this game. They go down and score a 179 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:41,039 field goal on the opening drive, and they force Ohio 180 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:45,440 State into an interception from Julian sand And soon as 181 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,080 I saw Zavada go out there, yeah, I mean as 182 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,919 soon as it was six to oh I knew that 183 00:09:53,039 --> 00:09:55,679 Ohio State was winning this game. I know that it's 184 00:09:55,919 --> 00:09:59,080 very easy to say in hindsight, but watching this game 185 00:09:59,159 --> 00:10:01,919 with a couple of my friends on Saturdays, I spent 186 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,840 a lot of time with friends this weekend, which is 187 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,399 very weird because because I mean, mainly I'm working a 188 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,000 lot on weekends and I'm also at my girlfriend's apartment 189 00:10:11,039 --> 00:10:14,000 in East Lansing as well. But this weekend, and I 190 00:10:14,159 --> 00:10:16,080 still spent a lot of time with her, her family 191 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,600 and my family. I spent a lot of time with 192 00:10:17,639 --> 00:10:18,519 a lot of different people. 193 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: You know. 194 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,039 Speaker 2: It took a back seat to doing a lot of work, 195 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,759 Like I did some games Tuesday and Wednesday. But I 196 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:27,960 mean it was a pretty light week right, And I 197 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,960 was with some friends watching this game as soon as 198 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,840 I saw Savada go out there, and I mean, they 199 00:10:33,879 --> 00:10:35,919 forced Ohio State to a field goal, but I'm just like, 200 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,799 they're not gonna be able to win by by getting 201 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:41,519 field goals against this Ohio State team. And obviously the 202 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,919 Jeremiah Smith touchdown could have been a touchback, right, I 203 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,120 think in hindsight, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Ohio 204 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,000 State took control of this game. They had a twelve 205 00:10:53,039 --> 00:10:58,360 minute drive that really kind of put the put an 206 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,480 end too it. Bo Jackson had a good game, Carnell 207 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:04,120 State one of the best receivers. I mean, this Ohio 208 00:11:04,159 --> 00:11:06,320 State team is just so damn good and they only 209 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,559 got one zech On Underwood, but they just did a 210 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:15,039 really good job of making sure Michigan just didn't do anything. 211 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:18,320 Like Jordan Marshall popped a couple of explosives. Michigan had 212 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:21,240 four plays for like one hundred and five yards, and 213 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,639 then like the other thirty five plays they had like 214 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,759 fifty eight like Michigan, And this is what their recipe 215 00:11:27,759 --> 00:11:30,679 to success has been against Ohio State in prior years, 216 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:34,240 Like they've just been able to pop a few explosive runs. 217 00:11:34,279 --> 00:11:35,639 And if you're Michigan, that's what you got to do, 218 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,960 especially with you know, the pass catchers not being anything 219 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,960 special on this team. And Andrew marsh is great, but 220 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,639 with how talented this secondary is, they took him out 221 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:47,799 of the game. It was pretty obvious it was a 222 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,279 good game plan to have. Honestly, I mean, not having 223 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,279 Justice Haynes either as another explosive weapon does hurt. It 224 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:59,879 does hurt. I don't think it makes it difference in 225 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,159 and this being an eighteen point victory for the Buckeyes. 226 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:09,360 But yeah, I mean Michigan Underwood eight for eighteen, Like, 227 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,919 I don't know if that's his fault. I think it's 228 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,360 just how this roster was created. I mean, we saw 229 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:17,679 them in two other big games against USC a game 230 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,080 they were outmatched in talent wise. They they struggled. They 231 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,799 struggled in that game hard like they beat Nebraska, but 232 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,559 like Nebraska hung in there, and I think a couple 233 00:12:29,639 --> 00:12:32,960 of things go different for Nebraska could be their game. Uh, 234 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,279 Oklahoma severely outmatched. They played close with Perdue, they played 235 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,519 close with Northwestern, like this Michigan team was very capable 236 00:12:40,519 --> 00:12:43,080 of getting beat. Even New Mexico gave this team problem. 237 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,440 So shout out to New Mexico. 238 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: Up. 239 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,279 Speaker 2: They had a pretty solid season. But point being, I mean, 240 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:53,000 this Michigan team just wasn't that good this year. They 241 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:55,200 were good on the defensive side. They still had a 242 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,840 lot of dudes. They still have a lot of players 243 00:12:56,879 --> 00:13:00,720 that are gonna be playing on Sundays. Offensively, this team sucked. 244 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:04,960 This team sucked all season and I know they beat 245 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,240 Michigan State. Michigan State sucked too. Like other than the 246 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,200 cream of the crop of the teams in the Big Ten, 247 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,000 like there's a few middle tier ones, but mostly a 248 00:13:14,039 --> 00:13:16,759 lot of these teams were not good this season. And 249 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:19,559 Michigan I don't like. Yes, they finished ninety three, like 250 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,159 still a good season. They did not They could have 251 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,120 done so much better with this team. You know, Sharon 252 00:13:25,159 --> 00:13:26,960 Moore is a year two, and I know there's still 253 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,120 a little bit of hey, you know, like we we 254 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,759 still need another year to maybe figure some things out. 255 00:13:32,879 --> 00:13:35,600 And I don't think they had a complete They got 256 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,879 Pecolia in the transfer portal. Yes, McCauley's took the year 257 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,240 off last season. He wasn't on that Indiana team that 258 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,120 was good, and I mean he was okay, Like there 259 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,799 was definitely some identification problems on the offensive side. And truly, 260 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,799 you throw Bryce out there when he's not ready, Like, 261 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,960 I don't know what you expected in this game specifically, 262 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,240 And I know Justice hayneses great running back. He's still 263 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:02,679 won games without them down the stretch. And truth to truth, 264 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,960 to be told, a running back doesn't unless he's literally 265 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,720 like Ashton Gent does not change your game that much. 266 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,960 Jordan Marshall still performed pretty well throughout the season. So 267 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,360 and unfortunately, when you're one dimensional and Ohio State can 268 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,039 keep you that way, they just won. They took care 269 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,840 of business. And shout out to the Buckeyes, Oregon, Washington. 270 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:31,919 This was a good game. This is a this is 271 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,440 impressive from Oregon because while Michigan can make excuses about 272 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,639 the injuries that they have, or any team in the 273 00:14:38,679 --> 00:14:42,799 country be like, oh, we're injured, Oregon's injured. They're without 274 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:48,360 their top three receivers right now, and they just don't 275 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,559 give a shit, right Like I hate to get vulgar, 276 00:14:51,559 --> 00:14:53,559 and I really don't on this show, but they just 277 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,759 simply damn Landing just gets them fired up and they 278 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,559 go in and they win football game. So they only 279 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:03,679 lost one in Indiana, and Indiana might be the second 280 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:07,320 best team in the country and Oregon could probably get 281 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,240 them on one of those days, right. Dante Moore one 282 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,200 of the best quarterbacks in the country. I know, he's 283 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,320 had a few games where it's like, uh, there's this 284 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:19,639 guy really gonna He's a first round quarterback. He's talented. 285 00:15:19,799 --> 00:15:23,200 He's very talented. He's a good player. He is the 286 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,919 difference in why you know a team might be more 287 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,559 like Washington or a team might be like more like Oregon. 288 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Like he does so many winning things, and he, like 289 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:38,519 Damon Williams, tried to do way too much in this game. 290 00:15:38,879 --> 00:15:41,480 He couldn't make accurate throws down the field. He kept 291 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,679 happening to shuttle it, settle it short. He's not someone 292 00:15:44,679 --> 00:15:47,440 that wants to keep taking the short plays Oregon. Dante 293 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:49,799 More is like, I'll just keep throwing it down and 294 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,720 shout out Millik Benson. He has another big game, step 295 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:56,919 it up. And it's funny because Malik Benson sucked at 296 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Florida State and Bama. And that's not to like completely 297 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,519 discredit in League Benson. He could still go on to 298 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:07,200 be a phenomenal player. He's definitely got the athletic tools 299 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,600 to keep himself alive for Sundays. But yeah, I mean 300 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,200 a huge game from him, and I mean, well, Oregon 301 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,200 couldn't completely run the ball against this team, but they 302 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,720 continue to distribute it out. Kenyan Sadiq, Yeah, Washington focused 303 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,320 in on him. Guess what. Jamari Johnson, Jeremiah McClellan, other 304 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,759 guys were being able to be utilized and defensively, just 305 00:16:28,879 --> 00:16:32,279 Oregon had a great game plan for this Washington team. 306 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:37,039 Mohammed's a great running back, Jonah Coleman obviously playing hurt 307 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:40,279 in Denzel Boston like they did a really good job 308 00:16:40,279 --> 00:16:44,039 of containing him. They just, like I've said it all season, 309 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:46,919 it's just three star players for this Washington team and 310 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,519 kind of just everybody else, Demon Williams, Jonah Coleman, and 311 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,519 Denzel Boston and Mohammed's a good running back too, so 312 00:16:54,879 --> 00:16:58,840 I'm not going to completely discredit him, but like, yeah, 313 00:16:58,879 --> 00:17:02,840 it's just not like there's no depth on this Washington team. 314 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:05,599 And when you're playing a team that's better than you, 315 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,160 probably with the tap talent, they're definitely gonna be better 316 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,799 with you than the depth. And I mean Jed Fish 317 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:13,640 in year two, eight and four season, they had a 318 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,880 winning year last year, Like do you see the winner 319 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,319 your progression? And I think, you know, with another year 320 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,519 with this kid at the helm and you can get 321 00:17:20,519 --> 00:17:22,640 some talent around, I'm like, yeah, you're gonna lose, probably 322 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,880 lose Coleman, You're probably gonna lose Boston. But there's a 323 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,799 transfer portal. There's guys you can bring in develop in 324 00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:32,400 your receiver room. I think you could work it out. 325 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,680 And defensively, this team's been pretty decent all season, so 326 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,119 and if they can retain a lot of those pieces 327 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,240 and you know, make additions where they need to, I 328 00:17:42,279 --> 00:17:45,319 really like Washington for next year for being a contender 329 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,119 in the Big Ten. So there's that I like a 330 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,839 good game, a good game, and playing in Husky Stadium 331 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,839 is hard to Oregon still did a really good job 332 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,559 coming out as victors in this scheme. Where do we 333 00:17:58,599 --> 00:18:04,960 go to next? Yes, Minnesota, wis kehonsin this game, battle 334 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:10,960 for Paul Bunyan's acts, wes kyonsin. Couldn't Wisconsin themselves into this. 335 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,759 Hunter Simmons gets the majority of quarterback snaps. And this 336 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,839 was just the ugliest football game that you could watch. 337 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:22,839 I mean, Darius Taylor had a great day. That's it's 338 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,240 pretty good, pretty normal stuff like this just was a 339 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:29,799 not so great football game. Let's look at the drive 340 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,160 chart for both teams. First quarter punt fumble, missed field goal, punt, 341 00:18:34,759 --> 00:18:39,519 punt punt field gold, Minnesota punt, touchdown, Minnesota, touchdown Wisconsin. 342 00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:45,119 And half second half interception punt, interception, touchdown, Minnesota punt 343 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:48,240 punt punt turnover on downs, end of game. 344 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: Like. 345 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: Classic Big Ten football in the Big Ten West. Yeah, sure, 346 00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:57,960 sure if you enjoy that stuff. I mean, shout out 347 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,559 to Minnesota getting seven wins on the season, a team 348 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:03,799 that going into the season I wouldn't expected to make 349 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:06,880 a bowl game, right, and you know what they're able 350 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,680 to beat uh They're able to beat the opponents that 351 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,559 they need to. They were able to win their games 352 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:17,640 that they needed to. And man, I mean, look, you're 353 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,799 going to a bowl game at Minnesota. You got a 354 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:23,119 young freshman quarterback, red shirt freshman. Yes, But like I 355 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,680 think Drake Lindsay is a piece that you could build around. 356 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,920 I think you could keep Darius Taylor for one more 357 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,599 year like. 358 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:30,599 Speaker 3: This. 359 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:35,599 Speaker 2: This isn't a bad season by Minnesota at all. And 360 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,160 they were able to beat Nebraska too. Obviously you would 361 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,079 have liked the cow win non conference playing. Hey, that 362 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,000 puts you at nine wins, right, So while they still 363 00:19:46,039 --> 00:19:48,480 have a lot of work to do, and I don't 364 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,319 even know if they're cut out for being a premier 365 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,039 program in the Big Ten. Like keep doing this, man, 366 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,960 you're gonna you're gonna find a sneaky year. You're gonna 367 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,759 find a sneaky year Wisconsin front. I don't know what 368 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:00,880 they do with Luke Fickle. I mean, they didn't fire 369 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,920 him today and I don't know if he will be 370 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,880 he will be fired. I'm pretty sure he's planned to 371 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,440 come back next season. But something tells me Wisconsin has 372 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,119 a really hard schedule or I mean they might just 373 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,160 really believe in the guy. He was good at Cincinnati, 374 00:20:15,319 --> 00:20:19,440 So I don't know. I mean, it is what it is. 375 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,079 Wisconsin football is not what it used to be. Ah 376 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:29,079 Penn State and Rutgers a shootout. Kay trot Allen has 377 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,240 a really fantastic game, so does Nick Singleton. The running 378 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,519 backs combined for over three hundred yards and three touchdowns, 379 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:41,319 averaging I think together that's like what like ten yards 380 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:47,480 per carry? Yeah, man, I mean Athian calaik Manisling did 381 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,279 around Antoine Raymond look good. These teams just didn't give 382 00:20:50,319 --> 00:20:52,839 a crap about they It wasn't the Big ten. It 383 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:55,960 was Big twelve today for these two teams. And you 384 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,799 know what, Penn State, even with the terrible season and 385 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,000 terrible thing that happened to this team during the year, 386 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,160 I mean, losing to Northwestern UCLA and Oregon in a row, 387 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,799 dropping to three and six, and then still being able 388 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:10,519 to come back and make a bowl game, Like that's 389 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:14,440 quite the accomplishment. I don't know what that Penn State 390 00:21:14,519 --> 00:21:16,279 job looks like. And that's something that I want to 391 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:21,319 touch on later in the video or video podcast, Like 392 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,960 what do you do with this program? What direction do you. 393 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:28,279 I know, Terry Smith is a guy, but truth is, 394 00:21:28,319 --> 00:21:30,200 the Knight Den of Sutton is gonna be gone. You're 395 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,720 gonna have a couple of other guys drafted on the defense. 396 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:35,440 There's still gonna be guys that want to hop in 397 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,920 the portal and you know, they might want to go 398 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,160 to Virginia Tech. A lot of recruits, you know where 399 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,839 James Franklin's going to coach next season. A lot of 400 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:44,119 those guys are probably going to flip to Virginia Tech. 401 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,319 So who are you going to bring in? And look, 402 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,559 it could be a coordinator, it could be a head coach. 403 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,200 I to be honest, I don't know what you would do. 404 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,440 I don't know what direction they want to go. And 405 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Brian Dable is also a great option too, because I 406 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,880 think that he was, honestly Delta a really bad hand 407 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,279 with the Giants and before Cam Skataboo got hurt, and uh, 408 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,559 I think if he would have started Jackson Dart earlier, 409 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,160 I think he might still be coaching for the g Men, 410 00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:15,079 but unfortunately, just not how it works. And I think 411 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,720 Dave Ball is still capable of being a really good coach. 412 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,960 We'll see, though, We'll see does he want to even 413 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,000 come back to college. I don't know, he might, he 414 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:29,200 might not. Like there's there's nothing to really say he 415 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,039 would go either way. Right, So, uh, on the Rutgers side, 416 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:37,559 he missed out on a bowl game, I mean, who 417 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,039 cares honestly, Like I'm not saying Rutgers fans like, oh, 418 00:22:42,079 --> 00:22:44,759 you guys shouldn't care. You guys should, but I mean 419 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,160 you lost the teams that were better than you, and yeah, man, 420 00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:52,160 it's just you had a fun season offensively with your 421 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,039 running back quarterback Ian Strong. You had kJ Duff, Like 422 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,720 I think dus is probably gonna be a guy that 423 00:22:58,839 --> 00:23:00,799 enters the portal and joins a contender. But hey, if 424 00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:04,880 you haven't for next season, that's great. All right on 425 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,880 to the next one. I think we only have two 426 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:11,680 three more games to cover. Let's go. Let's go to 427 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:19,400 Illinois Northwestern, the the Snowfest. Preston Stone three picks in 428 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,759 this game. Didn't have Kumalafe, you know, I mean you No, 429 00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:27,200 Illinois didn't even do anything special in this game. I 430 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,759 think they just didn't turn the ball over compared to 431 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:33,279 like they they had two fumbles or they had a 432 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:36,240 fumble from Luke Altmeyer that was it, and Northwestern had 433 00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:38,599 four turnovers and obviously in a snow game, things get 434 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,759 super wicked, right, like hard to have like a controlled 435 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:45,880 outcome in that because any team could you know, persevere 436 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,279 through bad weather with a couple of lucky plays going 437 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:52,759 their way, right. I mean, Illinois had a lot of 438 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:56,279 preseason expectations coming into the year. They obviously had Gabe Jackets, 439 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:00,279 you know, all American type player coming back on the 440 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,799 defensive side. They had a ton of returning talent on 441 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:07,039 the offensive line. Luke Altmeyer, you know, was like, Oh, 442 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,400 it's gonna happen with the receiver room. Hank Beaty, you know, 443 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:13,799 performed really well, and honestly, I think the problem with 444 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,440 this team is they just couldn't establish a ground game. 445 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,880 I don't know if it was the running backs or 446 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,119 offensive line, but you know, I'm saying all this. They 447 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,440 still went eight and four this season. They beat Duke, 448 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:28,079 who is in the ACC Conference championship. Oh my goodness. 449 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,160 I mean, like they did things. And obviously I think 450 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,599 after that Indiana loss, like things did go down hope, 451 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:38,200 but they still got a good win versus USC. The 452 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,119 lost to Wesconsin is obviously one that you didn't want 453 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,240 to have, but you know you still finished the year 454 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:46,480 eight and four. Any season that was weird, and I 455 00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:48,759 mean you get you got really low at some points 456 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:51,400 and you know, bounce back and get a win versus Northwestern. 457 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:55,079 Like Brett Beelove was a good football coach man and honestly, 458 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,119 like Luke Altmeyer had a pretty decent season this year. 459 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:01,640 Like it wasn't great. He was like what I would 460 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,039 call Jack plus, but I mean, hey, you know you 461 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,000 got you got a good You got a good amount 462 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,440 of time out of him. I mean he was accurate. 463 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,880 He did what you wanted to do. He wasn't gonna 464 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,799 lead you to anything super successful, but he also you know, 465 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,559 he did his job man, And I mean that's what 466 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,640 you want if you're Illinois. So with that being said, 467 00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:26,960 the fighting a line, I will go to play on 468 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,359 a bowl game and yeah. 469 00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: Uh you usc Us. 470 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,279 Speaker 2: You see l A. 471 00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:36,599 Speaker 3: You see LA tried. They did. 472 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: They didn't really succeed, they tried on the usc front. 473 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:45,400 I mean a good season for usc man. I'm very 474 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,440 happy for him. Mkaya Levon is going to be a 475 00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,160 top pick in this draft. Kobe Wayne I think still 476 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,279 has another year before he oh no, he. 477 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: Is a junior. 478 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so he might be gone to He might come 479 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,720 back for one more though, and try to be like 480 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:06,079 that number one receiver. It'll be interesting to see Jane Mayeva. 481 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,319 I think you probably get him back for another year. 482 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,880 I don't think he would go to the draft. I 483 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,319 mean he would probably be I don't know what his 484 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,960 draft evaluation, great would be. He might test. I mean 485 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,279 he is six four, two thirty with a pretty decent 486 00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:24,599 stat line. He's definitely got some highlights to show. I mean, look, 487 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,960 you lost Wayman Jordan, you lost a ton of running 488 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,039 backs this season. You had to go to King Miller, 489 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:34,240 which King Miller, you know, honestly stepped up pretty pretty phenomenally. 490 00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:38,799 I mean defensively, this is the best it's ever been 491 00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:41,200 under Lincoln Riley, right, And that was a lot of 492 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,039 the whole you know, team identity was we're gonna be 493 00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:47,960 a more physical football team this season, and they they 494 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,839 they played physical. Man, obviously, you know, did deteriorate. You know, 495 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,880 some of the skill talent they might have had, sure, 496 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:58,160 but or like big plays they would have. Yeah, maybe, 497 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,759 but like I mean still, you had a lot of 498 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:03,599 good performers throughout the season, and I think USC is 499 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,440 a team that could get better. I mean, they got 500 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,000 a kid in Hussan Longstreet that I think could be 501 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,880 very good. And they're doing a really good job recruiting 502 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,160 right now as well. So early national signing days gonna 503 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,720 come up. We're gonna see how all the class classes 504 00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:20,720 you know, fill out and whatnot. Obviously we'll have the 505 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,559 transfer Bortal window two. But I'm very excited to see 506 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:28,079 what USC does in twenty twenty six under Lincoln Riley 507 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,200 and the staff. I think that's a huge make or 508 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,960 break season two. So on the UCLA front man, we'll 509 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,559 see who decides to be the head coach there. I 510 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,119 don't know what they would do with Nico, if they 511 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,279 want to keep them or have them go away. I 512 00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:43,920 think it would be a plus if you kept him 513 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,759 compared to what you have as backups. But I think 514 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:48,559 he might want to also go somewhere else if he's 515 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:52,559 welcome anywhere else. I mean, we'll see, We'll see, all right. 516 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,680 Final game, and I saved this one for last. Michigan 517 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,599 State ends its eight game losing streak by beating Maryland, 518 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,960 and they and on an eight game losing streak. Yeah, 519 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,359 I I don't know about Maryland. I mean Milake Washington 520 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,680 threw the ball for four hundred and fifty nine yards 521 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,359 on sixty one attempts. I mean this this was just 522 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,519 two seasons that after non conference play ended, both of 523 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:24,319 these teams went seasons went south. But shout out to 524 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,799 Michigan State. They won, They won a game in Big 525 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,720 Ten play, and Jonathan Smith gets fired at the end 526 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:35,160 with yeah, obviously with the news announced today and Pat Fitzgerald, 527 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,039 you know, being announced as the head coach, I'll get 528 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:42,880 to my thoughts and feelings on this first game wise, 529 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,680 I mean Mila Voyevic played pretty well, honestly in the game. 530 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:57,079 I four touchdowns, almost three hundred yards, decently efficient. They 531 00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,119 were able to run the ball pretty okay as well. 532 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,279 I think defense of Leywhow wasn't fantastic. You know, they did. 533 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,119 Speaker 3: Their job, man, they did their job. 534 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: I know Makai Frazier's entering the transfer portal or excuse 535 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,640 me that you can't enter yet, but plans to enter 536 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:21,160 the transfer portal. Anyone else saw off this Michigan State 537 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,440 team I can find quickly. I don't think so, but yeah, 538 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:28,960 but I mean you're gonna have guys enter uh. 539 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:30,599 Speaker 3: And looking. 540 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: I actually found their schedule next season for Michigan State, Toledo, 541 00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:37,400 Eastern Michigan. Oh, they play at Notre Dame. 542 00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:40,079 Speaker 3: Oh, Okay, this is not gonna be a fun season. 543 00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: Michigan, Illinois, Nebraska, Northwestern Oregon, Washington, Rutgers, U c l A, 544 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,799 wes Kehonsin. Okay, I mean, you know it's it's gonna 545 00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:52,680 be a decently tough year. First year. 546 00:29:53,319 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: I want to know. I want to know what. 547 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,839 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm completely blanking out. I want to know what 548 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,359 the plan is with Pat Fitzgerald. And obviously I respect 549 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:16,799 Pat Fitzgerald and what he did at Northwestern. Obviously, the 550 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,400 whole scandal that happened, you know when he got fired 551 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,559 in the middle of July and David Brown had to 552 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,240 step in, and you know, Pat Fitzgerald was able to 553 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,759 get past it. And now he's going to be a 554 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:31,920 head coach. What dirty laundry does he bring? Right? Obviously, 555 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,720 you know you obviously had this plan and in the 556 00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:39,319 comings of you know, Jonathan Smith, you know, you knew 557 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:42,880 his time was going to end. And respect to the 558 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,680 athletic administration, Jay Batt didn't make this higher. Let's keep 559 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,400 that in mind, they let him finish the season out 560 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,519 because the players liked playing for him. And I think 561 00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:54,039 Jonathan Smith is capable of being a good head coach 562 00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:57,160 somewhere that's not completely in the spotlight, and Michigan State's 563 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,319 school that wants to be in the spotlight. Obviously, we're 564 00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:02,720 known for being a basketball school. But you know, there's 565 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:04,839 been points where this Michigan State team has been really 566 00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:07,920 good and been able to do successful things. Three National 567 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,359 championships in the past, college Football Playoff appearance in twenty fifteen, 568 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,920 multiple Big Ten Championship appearances, Rose Bowl winners, you know, 569 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,160 been in the Group of Six or New Year's Six 570 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,759 conference bowls you know, or not conference bowl games. Sorry, 571 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,200 Like they're capable of having special seasons. Now, what what 572 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,920 are they going to do because they haven't been good 573 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,839 since twenty twenty one and they've been nowhere close to 574 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,440 good since twenty twenty one. Obviously, melt Tucker ruined a 575 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,599 lot of things for this Michigan State program. I think 576 00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:45,240 I'm on the record saying that melt Sucker was fiery 577 00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:49,599 and cool and at first, but then he started to 578 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,240 lose control of this program and did something that was 579 00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:58,599 an excuseable to say the least. And now I think, honestly, 580 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,680 John the Smith was dealt a terrible hand. He had 581 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,759 to rebuild through the portal a lot. And you know, 582 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,079 he brought a lot of his guys, yes, from Oregon State, 583 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,039 but it's a different culture. 584 00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: Man. 585 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,279 Speaker 2: He couldn't get a focus on recruiting at all, Like 586 00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:19,720 he cannot recruit this area. A lot of the out 587 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,000 of state talent, which I mean a lot of schools 588 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,359 recruit out of state, but it was like nobody from 589 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,240 Michigan working in the high school football space in Michigan. 590 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,319 There's plenty of kids that are pretty talented at a 591 00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,440 lot of these schools, and I think truly that Michigan 592 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,480 is probably one of the more under recruited areas in 593 00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:41,519 the country. Like I mean, there's still, you know, guys 594 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:44,519 with star ratings and stuff, but I truly think that 595 00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:46,440 there is a lot of good football players that don't 596 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,920 get recognized in this state. And what do I know, 597 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,559 because I don't work in the recruiting service or space, 598 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,640 but you know, I mean, look at all these Gleiac 599 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,519 schools that are killing it in Division two football, like 600 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,400 Grand Valley State State, Saganaw Valley Like a lot of 601 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,119 those players are Michigan. Players like that are probably under recruited, 602 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,200 and you know it is what it is. 603 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:15,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what do you do. 604 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:19,759 Speaker 2: Recruiting wise at Michigan State? And what is the plan 605 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,480 with Pat Fitzgerald? What is the vision? Because I mean 606 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,920 he had Northwestern had great points throughout his coaching tenure 607 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,680 and ugly and they weren't good. But there's a good 608 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:35,680 chance that yeah, like they could do good things. They 609 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,000 could do good things. I I personally like the Higher. 610 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,039 I would give it like a bee. I have no 611 00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:42,720 idea if it's gonna work out. I think I was 612 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,440 a little bit more optimistic on the Jonathan Smith Higher 613 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,799 at the time. I thought like, oh man, this is 614 00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:50,079 gonna be the greatest thing since light spread. It wasn't, 615 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,440 but you know that's that's how it works out in 616 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,160 the big ten. Yeah, we still have the UCLA and 617 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,559 Penn State job waiting to be open. Let's take a 618 00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:06,720 look at the good old eight people came out today. Right, 619 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,519 I'm gonna be honest, I haven't lucked. I've been so 620 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,000 used to college. Okay, yeah, there's new eight people. So 621 00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:14,119 ohigho State in Indiana. 622 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: One and two. 623 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,599 Speaker 2: Oregon is at four man they dropped, texting them down 624 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:24,039 to seven. Dang dang Okay, Texas to fourteen, which I 625 00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,639 guess I don't know. USC seventeen, Michigan eighteen. 626 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 3: That is it? 627 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: In terms of Big Ten teams ranked, where do they ring? 628 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,559 Speaker 3: Notre Dame nine? 629 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:45,679 Speaker 2: Okay, still crazy that Miami's behind them? But whatever? Washington, Illinois? Wait? 630 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 3: What? 631 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: How can North Dakota State hold on? 632 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,559 Speaker 3: What the okay? 633 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,599 Speaker 2: Iowa got fifty one out of their receiving votes, I 634 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,039 could be ranked? Is there any other? Is there any 635 00:34:58,079 --> 00:34:59,320 four loss team in here? 636 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: Oh? Missouri? Dude? 637 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 2: I was way better than Missouri. Missouri stinks. Okay, all right, 638 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,760 one last thing before we get out here, and I 639 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,760 want to thank you for tuning into the Big Ten 640 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,519 paradigm throughout this season, and you know, stick with us 641 00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:19,000 because I think we'll be doing a couple more episodes. 642 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,559 Ohio State and Indiana play for the Big Ten Conference 643 00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:29,800 championship down in Indianapolis. Right now, Ohio State is minus 644 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,400 five and a half point favorites plus one eighty on 645 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,239 the Indiana money line over under forty eight and a half. 646 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,079 All right, so obviously Ohio State's been this dominant team 647 00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:42,920 throughout the whole season. Their closest game was Texas, so 648 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,960 it was fourteen to seven first week of the season, 649 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:47,920 and they've kind of just been able to control their 650 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,960 destiny throughout the rest of the season. Okay, the best 651 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,280 team that they probably played was either Washington or Michigan 652 00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:59,440 throughout the entire Big Ten season, right, and the rest 653 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,000 of the season play and they nominated. They dominated everybody. 654 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,039 But this this is an Indiana team that's pretty darn good. 655 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,280 This Indiana team has also been twelve to zero and 656 00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:12,559 you know, ten point game versus Oregon, they had that 657 00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:20,000 close one versus Penn State. Excuse me, Yeah, this game 658 00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:22,880 could go a lot of different directions. I personally would 659 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,920 take Ohio State to win this game, just judging off 660 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,480 of how they've been, but this is I could be 661 00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:32,360 completely wrong about this prediction, right, because Indiana's been a 662 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,039 pretty good ball club all season, and I think this 663 00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:39,199 offense could really challenge Ohio State because there's multiple receivers 664 00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:42,960 that can be utilized in this one. Omar Cooper, E. J. Williams, 665 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480 Elijah Surratt, you got two running backs and Roman Hemby 666 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,400 and oh forgetting the other running backs, and but there's 667 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,079 multiple running backs that could be used in this game 668 00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:53,400 and they can have a pretty good performance. 669 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:53,639 Speaker 3: Right. 670 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: Defensively, they're pretty good. D'Angelo Pond's is one of my 671 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,039 favorite corners. They have Aiden Fisher at linebacker. They have 672 00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:02,760 a good filled out eleven men on the defensive side 673 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,639 of the football, and they've been able to be good 674 00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,559 defensively this season, which maybe you didn't say the same 675 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:10,599 thing about last season when they played good opponents or 676 00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:14,199 opponents they gave them trouble. Right, So this isn't the 677 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,599 Indiana team last year. They have a big win versus 678 00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:19,400 Oregon on the road in Austin Stadium. It was a 679 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:26,960 ten point victory. This game's being taken in Indianapolis. Both 680 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000 teams will have a lot of fans that show up. 681 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,199 And honestly, who do I like? 682 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:34,679 Speaker 3: Who? What do I think? 683 00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 2: I think that Ohio State. You know, if they can 684 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,360 keep Indiana other thirty points, they'll win, and I think 685 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,199 their offense is capable of putting up a lot of points. 686 00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:46,840 Still on the Ohio State side, you have a great 687 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,000 quarterback in Julian Sand, You have a great wide receivers 688 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,920 and Jeremiah Smith think Carnell s eate. How do the 689 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,239 Indiana dbs and can they get pass rush on Julian 690 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,800 sand Is that something that Ohio State has UH has 691 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,639 done really good job this year, and they've they've done 692 00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:09,400 a good job, you know, being good defensively, They've they've 693 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,360 done a good job covering downfield. But this is a 694 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,960 different monster. This is the Ohio State buck guys, the 695 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,920 team that has power rated the best in the country, 696 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,960 and Indiana's pretty power power rated pretty high as well. 697 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,679 But I don't know, it's tough to really see, you know, you. 698 00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 3: Know who who? 699 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 2: Who is it going to be right between these these 700 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,360 two teams. It should be a great game. I'm excited 701 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,000 to watch it. I will be glued to this game. 702 00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:36,239 I can't wait to have a full report, and I 703 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,000 will get Zach Browning or Tyler Danberg depending on who 704 00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:41,320 wins the next day and talk on the show about 705 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,280 the game. And then obviously the College Football Playoff will 706 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,239 come out and we'll see who is on the playoff 707 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,079 field and probably talk about that as well. Both these 708 00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,840 teams should get a bye. I think Oregon's gonna be 709 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,559 the only team that plays in the first round from 710 00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,920 the Big ten. So with that being said, this is 711 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,800 going to be the end of the Big ten Paradigm show, 712 00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,559 obviously a little bit more of a short episode and 713 00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:05,920 we'll see how they're coaching Carousel continue to progress throughout 714 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,880 the season. But glad you could join us along here. 715 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,480 I will see you next week and enjoy the rest 716 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,159 of your Thanksgiving break in, have a good first week 717 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,679 in December, everybody, Thank you for tuning in.