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you know here. As I was getting ready for the show,

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I was just listening to deb Wolf and some really

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great information about, you know, how to approach strange dogs.

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You know, I often have the moniker. They call me

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the I heard your expert in aggressive dogs, as if

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to say I did a residency in aggressive dogs after

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Veterini School, And the truth matter is no, I didn't,

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but if we can understand where they're coming from. I'm

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known as the Kissy Doctor because I get more tongue

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than anybody I know, and I'm licked in the face

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all the time, and in my thirty years, thirty years,

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I was literally bitten once, well twice, in the face.

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Once when I was a little kid. I was five,

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and I stepped on my sleeping Doberman. He didn't think

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that was a very cool idea, and he kind of

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awakened from his sleep with his mouth around my face.

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But short of that, in all my years, I've only

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been bitten once in the face. And I wasn't even

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sticking my face into this dog's face. I was actually

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talking to the owner and the dog was in the car.

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I had walked out to talk to the owner. She

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was in the car with her pitbull cross, obviously known

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to be a little bit aggressive, and I didn't want

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to talk to them in a noisy, crazy waiting room,

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so I told me, got to the car, I'll come

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out in a minute.

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Speaker 3: So I walked outside and.

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Speaker 2: The dog comes and greets me, sticks his head out

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the window, gives me a lick like it always did,

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and all of a.

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Speaker 3: Sudden, I'm talking to the owner and he just jumped.

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Speaker 2: And grabbed me right on the lower lip. So called

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my good friend, the plastic surgeon. You'd never know to

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look at me now, but you know, typically you just

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got to read dogs. There was I'm sure many of

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you have seen this video, the tape that was all

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over the internet from this newscaster and they were doing

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some pet adoption piece or something. In this they brought

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not a pit bull. Now understand, this is a pit

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bull that's up for adoption. How much do we know

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about the history of this dog? And the answer is zero.

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And you are a newsperson, you are not an animal person.

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Speaker 3: So how much do you.

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Speaker 2: Know about the art of truly reading a dog's body

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posturing things like that? Well, anyway, she gets on and

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she sticks her face, grabs me by the head, sticks

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her face right in his dog's face, and he did

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what many dogs in that position might do, and that

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environment with lights and cameras and lots of people and

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strange people, and just literally bit right into our face.

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It was caught live on TV, and as they said,

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it was all over the internet for long. You can still,

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you know, easily google it. But that was really not

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the smart thing to do. And you have to realize

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that if you are going to work with dogs, you

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need to learn to how to approach them. Read their

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position of their ears, read their tail, read the hackles

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on their back. They start getting stiff as you're approaching them.

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That is not a good sign. So you know, just

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knowing this, it would just alleviate a lot of issues

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if you're going up there. You know, Deb gave us

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great advice. You don't want to go up to a

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dog that you don't know and start whacking them on,

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you know, let them sense you get low, you know,

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don't be a threat to them. Just you know, it's

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amazing how well these dogs can do, and you need

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to be in control. I had this dog come in

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actually just last week, and the reason it came to

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me is because the last two veterinarians wouldn't the dog

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in their office anymore. And I told the owner, I'm

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not worried. Just bring the dog in and we're gonna

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meet outside, not in the office. Eliminate some of the

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smells and some of the sounds. And as I walked

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up and I approached her, the dog, of course took

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the posturing and I told her in advance that I'm

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gonna come up to her and she's going to I'm

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just like passing the baton and to hand me the leash,

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so this dog doesn't realize that this pass had taken place.

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And I start walking away from her, and now I

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have the leash, and I called the dog by name,

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and I do a little heel.

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Speaker 3: And as I'm.

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Speaker 2: Walking with this dog and he's really doing pretty well,

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I'm sort of inching my hand down the leash to

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where the leash attaches to the collar and ultimately is

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on a sit. I'm starting to pet him just gently

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behind the ears, on top of the head, you know,

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a little rubbed neck rub. Literally within not even ten minutes,

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I'm kneeling down. I examined this dog, including the mouth,

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gave him medication, gave him a shots, and not even

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one attempt. I must obviously the dog knows that I'm

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no longer a threat. And the dog obviously was afraid

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at elsewhere animal hospital and wasn't afraid with us because

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of the way I sort of set the tone from

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the beginning. And if you do it, it's really most

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dogs out there are not really aggressive. I mean, there

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are some dogs that you can tell. You can tell

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the difference between invading a dog's space and having them

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become somewhat of a fear bier all right, or even

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an aggressive bier, but only when you invade their space.

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Versus a dog that you walk into room and they

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are going to run across the room.

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Speaker 3: And lunge at you. That is a problem dog.

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Speaker 2: But most of them, the vast majority, ninety five ninety

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eight percent, are not like that. And also, by the way,

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what's also amazing about dogs is they read us way

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better than we read them, and they can read our fear,

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they can read our anxiety, and if you are timid

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around an aggressive dog, oh my gosh, this dog is

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definitely going to take advantage. So again you have to

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kind of know how to read them and how to

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work around them. And if you do, that relationship is

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just going to be a phenomenal, phenomenal relationship. Anyways, if

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you're out there and if I would like to hear

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from you, you can send me an email call us.

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I want to know if any of you eight seven

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of experience any of you have had. I'm sure there

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are very few dog lovers, very few dog trainers, and

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very few veterinarians out there that have never been bitten

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by a dog or a cat, I know you have,

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so don't lie. I want to hear the story. I

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want to hear what happened and when this happened. Have

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you sort of thought about the circumstance and said, oh,

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I know what I did. I mean, I had one

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classic one, and you know, deav mentioned something about a Rottweiler,

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and again I see a lot of Now I don't

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see that anymore because they aren't that popular anymore. But

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ten fifteen years ago, you know, sort of back in

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the eighties for sure, and the early nineties, Rottweilers they

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were at one point sort of like the fortieth most

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popular dog on a case's top fifty, and then they

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worked their way down to eleven, number eleven most popular

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dog in the US the AKC. So, I mean, every

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other dog that would come into my office was a

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ROADI and I remember a very very aggressive Rottwiler and.

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Speaker 3: Many of them are and were.

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Speaker 2: And I'm doing my magic, working my magic on this dog,

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and he was actually really good. And one trick is

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never take your eyes off of the dog's face behavior body.

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And I'm sitting and talking with the owner at this point,

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I'm sort of kneeling down. I got him under the chin,

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he softened, Everything was good, and I made the cardinal

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mistake and I took my eyes off of him. And

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sure enough, as I'm petting him and talking to the owner,

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my attention is that the owner. Now, he just turns

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around and gives me just a little nipple on the hand.

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Fortunately it wasn't that bad. But he got me pretty good,

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didn't need stitches or anything. And I felt like such

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an idiot. I broke my own rule. I broke my

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own rule, which was, don't ever ever take your eyes

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off this dog.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: We have a caller coming in at the eight seven seven, three,

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Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, Hi, Hello, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Oh good?

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Speaker 3: And you have a question for me a comment.

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Speaker 5: So I was just going to ask you. My cat,

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who's a fairly large cat, has been on the light

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style food, you know, for the last oh probably eight years,

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and he's about eleven years old now.

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Speaker 2: And when you say a fairly large cat, what is

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so we have an eleven year old male, I assume

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male neutered, male neutered. And when you say a fairly

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large let's put into perspective for our audience. Are we

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talking fifteen pounds or twenty.

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Speaker 5: Five pounds, no more like sixteen pounds.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, see for two of my cats that's

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actually small. But ye, our house cat here at the

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hospital is twenty four pounds, and one of my cats

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at home is twenty two pounds, and another one is

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twenty pounds.

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Speaker 3: So I'm used to big relatives. It is all relative.

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Speaker 2: Hey, so you have a big eleven year old cat.

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He's eating light food, and so.

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Speaker 5: He's now from last year to this year, and he's

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been eating light food for many years, and he's probably

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lost about a pounds, okay, fifteen pounds now, right, sixteen pounds.

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So I was just was just at some point, you know,

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his whole life, or his most of his adult life,

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he's been on the light food because the vet was

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worried that, you know, he was just going to keep

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getting bigger and bigger and bigger and be too fat.

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But at about fifteen pounds or so, he seemed okay

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for the size of cat. He was right, And he's

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been stable at that weight for a long time. But

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as he's getting a little older, I was wondering, at

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some point, how would you decide that he should not

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be on the light food anymore or not.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: First of all, at eleven years of age, you probably,

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if you haven't already, you should be having a really

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a full physical sooner than later. And that's where they

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take the blood in urine. Obviously, we're always worried about

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kidneys with these older cats, always worried about diabetes, especially

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larger cats. Cats are known to have what's called type

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two diabetes, which is the kind of diabetes that people

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get so oh, you know, overweight people, So that's always

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a concern. Of course, heart disease, cardamiopathy. Some of these

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big cats might have some main coon in them, some

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of the Persians, and they might be prone to certain

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things like that. So I think a good physical would

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maybe even by settling with fifty to fifty by the way,

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to a senior diet, because only we do want to

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cut down the protein in the diet. It makes it

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easier on the aging kidneys. By the way, one of

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the number one diseases afflicting our older cats is going

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to be kidney failure. Another thing we see often an

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older cats, but it doesn't seem to be the case

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in a big cat like yours. Is hyperthyroidism, But then again,

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if we had that, we probably would have a cat

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that's losing weight much faster than you want based on

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the hyperthyroid status. So I think that's probably a safe

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bet that we don't have that issue to deal with now.

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So I would start with the good physical If everything

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is really just perfect and he's eleven but he tests

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like six, then stay where you're at. If you wanted

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to put him on a little senior diet, I would

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slowly increase or gradually add in a good senior food.

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this age he's you know, eleven for a cat is

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not super super old. We're not really geriatric yet. We're

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moving into the adult senior adult status. So I wouldn't

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be a bad idea to start on a food that's

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a little better, easier for them to digest, easier on

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their kidneys, but still having a lower fat. And interestingly,

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because of the fact that most senior pets are slowing down,

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they're not exercising as much, most of those foods are

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lower calories already, so I think that would be a

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wise thing.

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Speaker 3: Do you get a chance? Is he intoor outdoor? Just indoor?

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Speaker 5: He does both?

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Speaker 3: He does both?

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Speaker 2: All right, Look, you're probably as an indoor outdoor cat,

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you're probably going to get as much exercises as you

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probably can out of him already. I mean, the problem

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is with many of us a pilose with live in

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big cities. I have six cats, they're all indoors, and

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you know, obviously the biggest challenge is getting them to

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exercise because you know, they want to graze, they want

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to eat. Most of us, do you free feed or

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do you have a meal time?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: He has dry food available all the time, right right.

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what we do.

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Speaker 2: We do a meal in the morning and a meal

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in the evening, and then they have the dry food

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to nibble on all day. And I think that's pretty standard.

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So if you've gotten down to sixteen and now fifteen

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and the veterinarian says that you know that's a good

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weight for your cat, obviously a fairly good sized framed cat,

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then yeah, I would just the only reason I would

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switch is not necessarily for the weight issue, but because

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at eleven, we're starting to get into those early senior years,

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and it might be just good to add in not

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necessarily switch completely. And I think down the road, four

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or five years down the road, it'll be easier to

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continue that transition to the all senior food if he's

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already kind of used to it.

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Speaker 3: So that would be a bad idea. Okay, all right, and.

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Speaker 2: I know you have to absolutely. Then they ask you

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a question. I don't know if you've been listening in

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have you ever had dogs or just cats?

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Speaker 5: I haven't had dogs for many years now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So as a cat owner, cat lover, how many

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cats do you have?

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Speaker 3: Just the one? Just one, just one? Ever been bitten

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by a cat?

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Speaker 5: No? Not really? I mean, oh good baby, you know

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kitten that was sill?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit, but not right.

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Speaker 2: And just you know, while we're on the subject, but

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we were talking about, you know, people and approaching strange

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dogs or cats, and you know, one thing you notice

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is about funny and listen, I'm glad you called it

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with a cat question. Cats are really funny because you

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can have and this happens. Cats have a threshold. I

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wouldn't say all cats. Many cats have a threshold up

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to which they will actually tolerate being petted. In fact,

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they like it. But all of a sudden, in the

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middle of the petting, when they reach that threshold, they

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are going to turn around and they're either going to

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try to grab you with all four feet and pull

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their hand into you and start nibbling on your wrists

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or your fingers, right, or they're just going to turn

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around and give you a whack. So, oh yeah, and

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that is a cat thing, you know. You get the

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dog rolled over on the belly, right. You could sit

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there for two hours. The cat you could sit there

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maybe for twenty seconds, and all of a sudden, Oh

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my god, I've had enough. And boy, don't they let

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you know it. And as bad as bad as dog

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bites are for everybody out there, cat bites are way worse.

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Speaker 3: They seem to have much more bacteria in the mouth.

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Speaker 2: I mean personally, you know, when you get that little nibble,

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I don't worry too much about the dog bite. I'll

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wash my handles, open water, fish, a little scratch or

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whatever with the teeth and I'm done. Maybe little neosporn

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on it.

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Speaker 3: Done? Deal cat, Oh my god, get out that antibody.

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Speaker 2: Get out that augmented of the clavimox and start, you know,

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going to town because cat bites can be pretty bad. Anyway,

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Thanks for the call and anytime listen, if you can

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hang on, I'm gonna get some information or Mark in

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We were talking about dog bites. I was so intrigued

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by listening to the conversation from the show just before

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us from a deb wolf and you know a lot

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of great information and you know, don't be timid now,

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you know. Let's while we're on that subject, let's talk

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about what do you do if you're, say, at a park,

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or you're out in public somewhere and you see an

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aggressive dog or dogs? And how many stories have we

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heard about, you know, the two dogs. And by the way,

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when you see two loose dogs running and seemingly aggressive,

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that is worse than the one. And the reason for

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that is it sets off sort of like a pac mentality.

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You're much safer to have just the one that you

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can deal with too, not just because the strength and numbers,

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but they seem to feed off of each other, part

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in the pun when it comes to dogs. But that

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could make it worse. So some of the things that

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might work when you're dealing with one dog may not

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work as well sadly when you have this pack mentality.

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Speaker 3: But a couple of things that you can do.

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Speaker 2: First of all, and you've heard this before, don't run,

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because what happens is that now it becomes a predator

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prey instinct that sort of will click into that dog.

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And trust me, I don't care who you are, I

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don't care. If you're the world record holder in the mile,

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you will not outrun a dog. So you just have

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to know that they can catch up to you, and

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they will want to if you're running. Number Two, don't challenge,

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meaning don't look an aggressive dog in the eyes, because

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to them that's a threat. Number Three, if you really

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think you're gonna lose this battle in this dog is tough,

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bend down, crouch down, kind of put your hands covering

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your head, your face, take your face like down into

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here in between your legs, and hopefully some help will come.

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If you're not much of a threat, maybe the dog

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will stop. Here's the best thing. However, dogs don't necessarily

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have great depth perception. In fact, I'll take it one

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step further. They have lousy depth perception. So if you

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look around where you are, if you are close to

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a wall, even if it's the end of a brick wall,

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somewhere a tree or a park, car lean up against

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one of anything you can, because dog doesn't realize that

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you might be standing now even if you're up against

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the wall, there might be eight ten inches really you're

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in front of that wall. But to the dog, they

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don't get it.

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Speaker 3: To the dog. You are literally part of the wall.

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Speaker 2: And obviously a dog is not going to lunge for

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a wall or a lunge to a tree, so they

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will sit there. They might park themselves in front of you,

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and they might be barking and salivating and growling and

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showing their teeth, but it's less likely that they're going

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to take that lunge. Just be very still, and again,

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don't look them in the eye. So those are just

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some tricks to avoid being bitten by a dog, and

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you should teach your kids the same thing. The biggest

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mistake people make because they start running around, hands flailing around,

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and you know, that's like an invitation to the dog

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to say, okay, come and get me, come and get

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me and bite me. So be really careful out there.

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So anyway, again, I want to hear more stories. I

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mean like to know if any of you out there

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that work with animals, especially or just even if you don't,

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even if you're just a pet parent, how many of

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you have been bitten by.

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Speaker 3: Your own dogs.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. I'd love to hear about that.

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Send me a response and send me your information and

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we'll go ahead and talk about that at a future show.

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How many listeners out there have been bitten by their

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own dog? I mean I have It's not the craziest

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thing in the world. When I was little, I'm act

476
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that's some really stupid things, they said. Stepping on a

477
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sleeping Doberman is really not that smartest thing in the world.

478
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But you know, sometimes it's just My aunt had a dog,

479
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for example. Of all the breeds, and those of you

480
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that have this breed, and I have two of them,

481
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can certainly appreciate.

482
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Speaker 3: His dog was a yellow Labrador.

483
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Speaker 2: And he was the sweetest, the most fun the greatest dog.

484
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I mean literally would lick you to death major tongue. Okay,

485
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but he had a bone, and I'm talking this one

486
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bone that he used to play with, and darn it,

487
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you could not get near this guy when he was

488
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chewing on his bone. And I'm talking even me and

489
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I got along great with him. Anyone, my aunt, her family,

490
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my cousins, nobody. That was the one time his name

491
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was by Centennial Barnabus. They got him back in nineteen

492
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seventy six. They called him Barney. And you could not

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touch this dog when he was chewing his bone. It

494
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was off limits. And it was really funny because a labrador,

495
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they'll usually get up and start licking you in this

496
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because they know they can probably get another bone. But

497
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it was very interesting. So I want to know who

498
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out there of our listeners, and hopefully there are quite

499
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a few of you listening today who are afraid to

500
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call us at eight seven seven three eight five eight

501
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eight eighty two or send me a question at doctor

502
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Jeff at petlife radio dot com who's been bitten by

503
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their own dog. So, first of all, it's been really

504
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busy at work. I've had some really really good cases. Sadly,

505
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one of our splenectomy cases. Actually, I think I told

506
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you we had two. One that I thought was going

507
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to be disaster came back benine. The other one which

508
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did come back malignant and started treating and this poor

509
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girl she started to metastasize and it's the hardest thing.

510
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And you know, the dog is twelve or thirteen. So

511
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I mean, overall it did fairly well, but you know,

512
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it's tough because it's a dog in a family with

513
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two small kids, and it's really really I mean, it's

514
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always tough to say goodbye. It's always tough to deliver

515
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that news about a dog who's coming out of our mission,

516
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or the tumor that we knew was going to metastasize

517
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finally is and starting to create some havoc in the

518
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liver and more bleeding, et cetera. But to have to

519
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break that news to kids is really really tough because

520
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they don't understand it the same.

521
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Speaker 3: So it's really sad.

522
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Speaker 2: But doing a lot of media work. In fact, we're

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going to try to post a segment. I just did

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a segment on our local ABC affiliate here in Los Angeles.

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I have one coming up next week on our one

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of our local stations. It's a CBS station, it's called

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k CAL, Channel nine, and I'll.

528
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Speaker 3: Work on a few.

529
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Speaker 2: I'm coming into New York actually in a couple of

530
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weeks to do another segment. But I'm getting a lot

531
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of interest in something that obviously many of us do

532
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and have done for a long time. And for some reason,

533
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I think it's because of all the Housewives TV shows

534
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:36,720
you know outside of Dallas and How's Wives Miami and

535
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Housewives of New Jersey and Los Angeles, Housewives of New York.

536
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Speaker 3: But plastic surgery for pets and TV.

537
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Speaker 2: Producers, news producers are so intrigued that the whole concept

538
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,640
of plastic surgery for pets like, oh my god, why

539
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,160
would it pet ap plastic surgery? So I often have

540
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to sort of put the brakes on. I said, time out,

541
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time out. We're not talking cosmetic surgery. We're talking pure,

542
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the purest of the plastic surgery, which is plastics and

543
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reconstructive surgery. When inventing medicine with pets, our biggest concern,

544
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our primary focus is going to be on function, so

545
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much so that we will often have to sacrifice form

546
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in order to achieve that function. As an example, let's

547
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take one of the common surgeres we often do, and

548
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it is skin fold reduction. That means we have such

549
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deep skin folds save the perfect dog would be a

550
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bulldog or a sharpai or a frenchy a pug that

551
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have so many folds around, say their face or their neck,

552
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that we continually get deep infections within these folds. And

553
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you can treat them, and you can drying powders and

554
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,920
antibiotics and anti itch and you know, collars, whatever the

555
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case may be. But the inherent problem, the fold is

556
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still there. So even though you solve the problem today

557
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a month from now, whatever longer, maybe even shorter, it's

558
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back again.

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Speaker 3: So we have to do.

560
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Speaker 2: And obviously, especially with a dog like a Sharpei, certain bulldogs,

561
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one of the things that they're being bred for are

562
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these big, big folds. I mean, what's a Sharpei without

563
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all the skin folds. So of course, in order to

564
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remedy this problem, we're going to have to remove some.

565
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Speaker 3: Of those folds.

566
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Speaker 2: We're going to have to take this beautiful prize Sharpei

567
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,599
and in my book, will always be beautiful, but make

568
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,359
them not as beautiful from the shar Pei perspective, from

569
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,640
the skin fold perspective, in order to correct the problem

570
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once and for all and to eliminate these persistent bacterial

571
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,559
skin fold infections. So that's a perfect example. Another thing

572
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:35,079
we're doing, and I'm doing one next week is called

573
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,880
entropion surgery, and entropion is an eyelid surgery, and it's

574
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an inward rolling of the lids, and the lids continually

575
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:47,279
rub up against the eyeball, causing persistent conjunctivitis, drain, it, discharge,

576
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:50,200
et cetera. And it is so uncomfortable for the dogs

577
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,680
and certain breeds. The chow again, the Sharpei, the Rodweiler.

578
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Even some labradors are notorious the bulldogs for their entropion.

579
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So we will be doing one next week. So you know,

580
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the key is that when it comes to people and

581
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,640
just you know, I was joking about all these housewives

582
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,880
shows because they are so willing to make themselves uncomfortable,

583
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,960
to have more difficulty breathing or moving right in order

584
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,839
to with they and their minds look better. Personally, I

585
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,400
don't think it usually looks better. So whereas our goal

586
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,480
is we don't really care about the looks, we care

587
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:26,640
about the function. And then it goes the same thing

588
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,759
for dental work, do you realize that we I shouldn't

589
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:31,480
say we because I don't do it. We would refer

590
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:34,240
to a veterani a dentist, But there is an entire

591
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,559
specialty in veteran dentistry that will work with dogs or

592
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:41,480
cat's mouths and they will put braces on and apparatuses

593
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,680
that will help straighten the teeth. And again it's not

594
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,640
for that prize winning smile. Dogs aren't going to smile

595
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,799
for the camera. But what it is for is to

596
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,240
allow them to eat properly, allow them to get with

597
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,400
the energy that they expend on trying to eat to

598
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,359
actually get that food in the mouth and chew it

599
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,119
more efficiently, and you know it's a or sometimes eliminate infections.

600
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So there's so many things that we can do now

601
00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:08,920
that we understand that cosmesis is not the whole problem.

602
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,079
It is that that we're trying to improve their function.

603
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,599
So again it's always that battle between form and function.

604
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,519
So anyway, it's that time. Boy, I'll say, it goes

605
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really fast. I want to thank our caller. I want

606
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you guys to you know, sort of get the guts

607
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to send me an email, and the offer holds if

608
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:29,839
you send me an email and I discuss the email online,

609
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:32,480
that pro sense product is still coming to you. So

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stay tuned. We'll see you next week. Have a great week,

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and I'm doctor Jeff signing out p ass bets on

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doctor Jeff here on pet Life Radio.

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