WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:05.040 You see somethings going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 4 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:28.039 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. In this episode, I got 5 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:31.000 a returning guest, probably one of the more probably hasn't 6 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:33.679 like the top three guests that we've had on the show. 7 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:35.600 The numbers was have. 8 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:37.240 Been having him on for the last few years. We've 9 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:40.240 got William Ramsey on, but before we introduce him, we'll 10 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:43.119 introduce the other rejects on the show. And we got 11 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.320 with us today we got Brooke. What is going on? 12 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:45.560 Brooke? 13 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:47.479 How are you hi? 14 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:49.600 I'm doing well. Thank you so much for having me on. 15 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:51.600 Great to meet you, William. I've been a fan for 16 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:54.880 quite a while. I love your work with SFK, so 17 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:57.719 really excited for the topic tonight. You can find me 18 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.759 wherever you get your podcast at dark to podcast in, 19 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:02.719 on Instagram and Dark Floor a podcast. 20 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:03.719 Awesome. 21 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:06.079 Thank you so much for joining us as well. And 22 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.120 we got my man, the Headless Giant. What is going on? 23 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:08.280 Sir? 24 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.079 How you doing Nick? It's great to be here with 25 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:16.000 William Ramsey. Whenever we get him on there sparks just 26 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:18.879 start flying. So you can find me on Twitter and 27 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:24.719 on YouTube. Headless Giant also on Instagram, and if you 28 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:28.719 have any stories of the occult slash paranormal nature, you 29 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:32.400 can send them to my show, The Headless Giant Podcast 30 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:36.359 at gmail dot com and Nick, we'll send you a 31 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.680 free sticker pack if you do so, go ahead and 32 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.280 include your address there and we will get some sticker 33 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:45.400 packs out to you and I read those every Thursday 34 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.319 and every Sunday. I've got the trialogus with Ethan. I 35 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:52.719 just fell asleep this one next time, next time. 36 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.280 Last night too. Yeah, funny, it happens. It happens to 37 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:56.799 the best of us. 38 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.280 One my man, Ethan, what is going on? So, how 39 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.319 are you well? 40 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:06.159 Sleep is the best meditation? Meditation is the best sleep 41 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:07.079 or something like that. 42 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:08.360 Just counting clips. 43 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:14.599 Wonderful, Yeah, wonderful to be here with everyone, William, this 44 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.560 is gonna be great. I appreciate your research and insights 45 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:20.840 and yeah, honored to be here with everyone. I'm easy 46 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.560 to find on social media and even have a few 47 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:29.400 books on the whole global com so salute to everybody. 48 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:33.199 Yeah, thank you very much, Ethan, and we got Tyrone. 49 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:35.840 What is going on? All right? 50 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.840 Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Uh, I'm 51 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.479 excited to hear this. What's going to be shared today. 52 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:44.199 Everything you can find on me is on my website 53 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.599 Rebirth at theWord dot com. And our best selling book 54 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:51.199 is on Journey through the Origins of History is on Amazon. 55 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.199 Hell yeah, thank you very much, tom Ron. Always appreciate you, 56 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:55.759 jumping home. 57 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.479 And finally, William, for the people who don't know who 58 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.039 you are right now, let them know what's up. Where 59 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:03.439 can they find all your amazing work. 60 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.000 My podcast is in the top point five podcasts in 61 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:10.479 the world. You can find all my work William Ramsey Investigates. 62 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:13.800 They're also my website. You can buy five five books 63 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.400 and then five documentaries on Patreon. You can check that out. 64 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:20.280 I post a lot of stuff there that isn't sensitive. 65 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.479 Other things that might get me in trouble elsewhere is 66 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:24.759 on my Patreon these days. 67 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:28.639 So check out nice And you're the point five. We're 68 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.400 on the point one, so we're coming from you. No, no, no, 69 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:36.000 I mean you're on point five. So that's yeah, yeah, 70 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:40.599 we're coming for you with podcasts. That's cool, going no, 71 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:47.080 thank you, thank you, appreciateing. So the Manchurian candidate, Uh well, 72 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:48.800 I guess what got you interested? 73 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:50.680 In covering this or in the way that you're doing 74 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:51.280 it now. 75 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.039 Really current events, Like I was looking into a lot 76 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:57.599 of these more recent killers. People would know people who 77 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:01.719 tried to kill Trump, supposedly crooks, ruth. Then there's these 78 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:05.159 strange events that happened on January first, which is Jabbar 79 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:08.879 who rolled over a lot of people, and levels Berger 80 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:14.599 who went to the Great Golden Monolith in or Trump 81 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.560 Tower I should say the Golden Monolith of the Trump 82 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.879 Tower in Las Vegas and supposedly blew up his E 83 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.199 truck or his Tesla truck. And those were both very strange, 84 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:26.920 and the timing was on. Both of those guys are 85 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.600 traced back before Bragg and then Louis Gimi and Gioni. 86 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:32.680 So these are kind of strange characters, but they're often 87 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:36.720 strange in a way that rhymes with other people. And 88 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:38.279 I had done the study and the Catcher and the 89 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:43.240 Rye and that is so weird. Oh god, yeah, that's 90 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.160 another show. But I mean that book is weird, and 91 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:51.480 it's it's it's connected to Chapman and Hinckley. Two guys, 92 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.920 one guy who supposedly killed Lennon and the other guy 93 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.120 tried to go Reagan four months apart from each other. 94 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:57.920 I think when you were on when you were on 95 00:04:57.959 --> 00:04:59.319 the show, when you were covering that, I think I 96 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.079 ran the Jamai and it actually matched somebody's name that 97 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:04.079 you were even talking about, Like Catcher and the Riot 98 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:07.040 matches someone's name in Jamatra that's associated with even having 99 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:07.399 the book. 100 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:09.319 It's like, what the fuck? How does that happen? 101 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:13.120 It's a strange book. I think it's kind of like 102 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.920 a dark book, Like there's nothing redeeming about the main character. 103 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.040 People said he's an anti hero or all this. I 104 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:24.079 see him as a very fractured, dissociative, kind of psychopathic sociopath, 105 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.800 like so many bad things about Old and Colfield, and 106 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:29.680 weird kind of sinks between him and Chapman being and 107 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:32.800 the end of Caturing the Rye happens at a carousel, 108 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.920 which I found out later. Carousels and addicts are like 109 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:40.079 big mind control things for some strange reason. You'll see 110 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:43.319 them repeated in these characters. But it ends up in 111 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.279 Central Park. That's kind of like where Chapman was. He 112 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:51.519 used to hang out in Central Park. And then Luigi 113 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.160 Mangioni killed supposedly killed that head of the CEO, corrupt 114 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:59.439 CEO of the healthcare industry and went into Central Park. 115 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:03.199 And then and there's strange sinks with this movie, Mancheering Candidate, 116 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:08.879 where the main character he realizes he doesn't realize, but 117 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.319 the Sinatra character realizes that this guy's under mind control 118 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:14.720 after he walks away from a barn, jumps in the 119 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:18.279 pond in the Central Park. So it's all very strange. 120 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:20.560 And I think it's because New York was kind of 121 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:23.800 like the navel of the Earth after World War Two 122 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:26.160 in the sense it was kind of a bustling city 123 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:31.959 and the financial capital of the US. But so that's 124 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:34.519 kind of what led me back to Mancheering Candidate, is 125 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:37.120 this kind of interest in these killers. So that's kind 126 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:40.000 of And then I watched the movie again I'd seen 127 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.519 it before, and then I looked into the history and 128 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:44.680 I went, wow, this is really really important. I can 129 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.519 see why he was taken out of distribution for twenty 130 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.240 five years. Nobody saw the movie after the jfk assassination, 131 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.160 and it wasn't until it's re released in ninety seven 132 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:57.279 to ninety eight. So the film itself has a very 133 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:02.920 interesting background. Just actually the history of the film. 134 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.800 That is interesting though, how like you know, I think, 135 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:07.120 like you know, you, me and other people have even 136 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:12.360 been noticing, especially with Jamatra repeating themes that are matching 137 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:14.439 like now from in the past, like you know, like 138 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:17.040 all of a sudden, like back to the Future seems 139 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:20.079 popular because people in Jamachi are covering it and it's 140 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.079 matching stuff that's kind of relative. Now there's a lot 141 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:24.959 of things I've even covered in the past with certain 142 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:27.560 certain topics that are heavy with Jamatra, and it was 143 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.839 always matching stuff that was like literally popular right at 144 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.480 the moment. And you almost like, you know, like is 145 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.079 this like some repeating like cipher that pops up. It's 146 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.879 just very weird, you know, and it seems to be 147 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:39.920 happening more and more often. 148 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.839 The people people, Well, it's interesting you're bringing up numerology, Nick, 149 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.800 because I have a section of this film. I read 150 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.839 the book and seen the film many many times. But 151 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:55.800 there's like what people call a cold numerology or illuminati 152 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.839 numeral whatever they use to turn it. But Condon knew it. 153 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:00.680 So if you can bring up the film, we can 154 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:03.839 go through some of the selections of it and then 155 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:09.120 may be disappointed. This is a total spoiler alert I'm 156 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.800 going to ruin the film for everybody, But the whole 157 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.040 arc of the film is that the man cheering candidate 158 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:18.959 is the fact that Raymond Shaw, the main character, is 159 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:22.199 in the Korean War from nineteen fifty to nineteen fifty three, 160 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:27.839 and he gets abducted by people from the Communist front 161 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:30.879 hypnotized sent back, and then he's handled all the way 162 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.360 to the United States where he becomes an assassin, and 163 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:36.519 then he tries to kill the presidential contender at the 164 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:41.919 selection of the presidential nomination at the nomination kind of 165 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:46.600 like where RFK was when he was at the Ambassador 166 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:51.399 Hotel in Los Angeles. But the Condon knows that it's 167 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.159 very dark. The film has like I mean, the book 168 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.799 has stone cold incest. The lead character, woman who's a villain, 169 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:02.240 is willingly seemed to be having sex with her dad. 170 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:04.000 So it gets pretty dark. 171 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:05.840 But it's actually Egyptian. 172 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.120 Condon is very well read. He understood a lot of 173 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:16.279 classical illusions and a lot of classical stuff, and he 174 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.200 also knew this occult stuff. So this troop that gets abducted, 175 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.279 there's eleven of them, So there's eleven men in this 176 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:27.200 whole thing. Twenty two men carried eleven people and then 177 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:33.159 they're getting hypnotized or induced, and there's minds of eleven Americans. 178 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:36.759 So this is the number of magic. And I think 179 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:41.559 that Condon is implying that this hypnotization or creation of 180 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:46.240 an assassin is a magical act. Reports at eleven o'clock, 181 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:48.440 so he gets up at eleven, he goes to bed 182 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.960 at eleven. There's literally a nine to eleven in this, 183 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:54.480 so like nine to one hundred and eleven names are 184 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:57.440 stricken from the list. There's seventy seven's in here, so 185 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:00.639 you probably know the number seventy seven, but you can 186 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.000 just see this is actual text from the book itself. 187 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.000 At a critical moment in this film, Sinatra, who plays 188 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.480 this guy Marco, he realizes that he's been hypnotized, and 189 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:14.360 at the critical moment of when he's having his dream, 190 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:16.480 it happens at three to eleven at night, Like, these 191 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:20.279 aren't accidents, so William. 192 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:25.000 One of the ways that they make themselves clear as 193 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:29.320 to who's been hypnotized and who's not is the same 194 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:32.360 repeating phrases that they use over and over and over again, 195 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:37.279 like this guy was the most what did they call him? 196 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.799 They called him like he was the best man out there. 197 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.200 He was, and they would say it over and over 198 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:45.279 again to where that's how you knew that these other 199 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:48.399 people were under mind control. And we see that happening 200 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.080 so often, Like we've got these repeating phrases, the psychic 201 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:55.440 driving that they try and use over and over again 202 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:57.639 in our society, safe and effective, all the rest of 203 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.519 this stuff. It's like these don't mean any thing, but 204 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:02.919 they're going to push you forward in that direction. That's 205 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.120 one of the main tells I think that you could 206 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:08.320 see the mind control and effect is the driving phrases. 207 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:12.759 Yes, when when I ran a lot of the Jamatria, 208 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:14.559 just real quick, you know, when I was talking about 209 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:17.159 my experiences with seeing like stuff repeating, a lot of 210 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:20.080 the stuff that match too, was words or phrases. 211 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:21.639 I was constantly being said in. 212 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:24.960 The news maura lago or a certain maga phrase, and 213 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:27.720 it's just like, yo, is that like an energetic EGGARGOI 214 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:28.440 you're trying to grow. 215 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:29.480 It's really weird. 216 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:33.440 I think it's all it's all intentional, and it all 217 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.080 comes out of this post war research about behavioral science 218 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:42.000 and psychology and mk ultra all the stuff together brain warfare. 219 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.799 But yeah, those were kind of I think this is 220 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:49.279 like the start of where it comes into fiction and 221 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:53.159 then comes into fact. So the actually what's really interesting 222 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.519 of this book, about this book and movie is that 223 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:58.000 how much Congin new at the time and how much 224 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.159 he integrated into this how sophisticated that he was, because 225 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:03.360 a lot of the techniques they show in this film 226 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:08.080 are real life techniques NLP, repetitive phrasing, all kinds of 227 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:11.919 post hypnotics suggestion, which is real. It's a lot of 228 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.399 people don't know that these techniques as this, but they've 229 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:17.279 actually been studied at a very very high level by 230 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:21.840 very intelligent people, like super brains like you. And Cameron 231 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:23.879 is like a nightmare guy out of McGill who did 232 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.080 the sleep Room, but he was the head of the 233 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:29.639 world psychiatric form that kind was really smart, and he 234 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.639 had an external he was like doctor Jacklin, mister Hyde. 235 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:37.440 He had an external front that he was a healer 236 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:39.000 and a good guy, and he was doing the most 237 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:44.360 horrific experiments they can't even be called experiments. He was 238 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:47.879 using techniques on people over long periods of time, and 239 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.639 he never went to jail for it. And he's poisoning 240 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:52.320 and messing with their brains and they didn't know it. 241 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.639 Their families thought they were going in for treatment, and 242 00:12:55.679 --> 00:13:00.200 he made them worse. So these things are all all 243 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.759 tested and truth, and they're actually in this film that's 244 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.679 really someone else. It's really so awesome. So let's listen 245 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:10.159 to this. See if you guys can get the audio 246 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:10.559 from this. 247 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:13.960 Vision jealously guards. 248 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:15.279 Can you hear that to us? 249 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:15.759 Yep? 250 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:16.320 Can you hear that? 251 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.600 Bella the Congressional Medal of Honor in the Korean War, 252 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:24.200 with five million, seven hundred and twenty thousand personnel engaged 253 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:26.720 only seventy seven men. We're so hot. 254 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:29.120 So there's your seventy seven. This is right at the 255 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:32.240 beginning of the film when. 256 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:34.799 I get married to my old lady. I got no 257 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:36.960 idea that this guy comes in. 258 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.279 This is a sequence right where he realizes he or 259 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:44.320 he doesn't put but Sinatra realizes this guy's been tampered with. 260 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:47.639 And the key thing and the chemotif and the key 261 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:49.399 trigger that you'll see through this film is the Queen 262 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:52.200 of Donald's. So watch this, but listen for the eleven 263 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.279 in the background in the same package. 264 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.039 That is a package deal. And for eleven long years, 265 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:02.240 I got this grunk tighter around my neck and believe me, 266 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:03.519 it's no bigging. 267 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:06.600 You've got no other date. It was kind of guy, 268 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:07.279 what this guy? 269 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:10.240 Wait, kids just got held up in traffic again. 270 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.799 So I says, don't please do me a favorite, will you? 271 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.519 Why don't you go and take yourself a kid and 272 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.159 go up the Central Park and go jump in the league. 273 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:24.879 Raymond, I don't know why. 274 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.639 You're so that is it? So they tie in this 275 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:31.720 kind of mind control suggestibility to the number eleven there 276 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:34.320 in the background. It's not a mistake. These are all 277 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:38.120 very like intentional. And then this is uh. Angela Lansbury 278 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.120 for one of her first films was Gaslight. That's why 279 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.080 we use the word gas Light now as a reference 280 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.480 to a movie she was in when somebody's just a 281 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.840 stone cold lying to your face. But according to certain things, 282 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.639 she's like one of the top twenty five villains in 283 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:56.080 American film history. And by the way, AFI ranked this 284 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.240 film as one of the top one hundred films back 285 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:02.120 in nineteen nineties, So top one hundred American films ever made. 286 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:05.279 That's like nobody's really seen it. They've seen the remake 287 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:07.039 with Denzel Washington that watch this. 288 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.440 The only apartment in New York City without an air conditioner. 289 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:12.360 You know, sometimes I think you came to us for 290 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:13.240 another century. 291 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:16.120 Chiu Chin Chow or whatever your name is. 292 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:19.159 The steaks are to be broiled for exactly eleven minutes, 293 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:21.399 no more, no less, on each side in a preheated 294 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:25.559 grill at four hundred degrees. Nobody grills their stakes for 295 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:28.360 eleven minutes. I don't know if that's really true, but anyway, 296 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:31.279 when you're talking about numerology neck, that kind of this 297 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:36.080 whole thing kind of came sure, but pervades the book 298 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:39.000 in the film, right. 299 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.120 It's the idea of the eleven is being the symbol 300 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:44.879 of mastery. It's like past the ten. And so what 301 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.120 they're doing is they're saying, we're operating on a level 302 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:50.120 higher than you by ten. You're down here at one, 303 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.519 we're up here at eleven. It's that kind of thing. 304 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:54.879 It's well, at least it seems that way from like 305 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:59.399 the context. Right, So a lot of other people could 306 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.559 use been as a form of mastery that's not connected 307 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:04.840 to mind control, but obviously in a mind control film, 308 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:06.600 they're sort of throwing it in your face, you know. 309 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:11.840 Right, it's Crowley's master number, the number of magic, the 310 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:16.039 number of the microcosm and macrocosm five and a six 311 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.759 coming together, the number of the Magician, number of the 312 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.840 New World Order. It's all there. So anyway, that's just 313 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:26.120 an interesting thing. So that's one element of this whole thing. 314 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:28.919 One of the other interesting things about this film. It 315 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:32.279 really was okay by JFK himself. That's what a lot 316 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:35.080 of people don't know is that this film was made 317 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:38.639 because JFK wanted to get it done and Sinatra was 318 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.240 his close friend. They were close personal friends. It wasn't 319 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:47.159 like like Sammy Davis Junior said that Sinatra had like 320 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.519 a direct dial to the White House. You could just 321 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:51.639 pick up the phone and call JFK whenever he wanted. 322 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.120 And they were together at Tyanna's Port. And JFK, we know, 323 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:58.039 was like he liked to read spy novels. He liked 324 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:01.240 to read James Bond novels. All that woman you read 325 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.600 this and said, get it made. And he actually knew 326 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:07.279 a guy from the Democratic Party in Los Angeles and 327 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:09.240 that he got a green lt finance for two point 328 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.079 two million dollars and got all these great actors. Angela 329 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:16.400 Lansbury Vivian Lee is like a Hollywood royalty. That's Jamie Lee, 330 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:21.039 Curtis's mom. She's in this And of course Sinatra is like, 331 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:24.160 you know, world famous singer, not really a great actor 332 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:27.039 in my opinion, but I think the movie is great. 333 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.519 Was there anything anybody wanted to ask? 334 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:40.759 Yeah, So there's so much about this movie that really 335 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:45.680 has parallels in our everyday lives, Like what exactly do 336 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:50.279 you see, you know, exposing the kind of man Cherian 337 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:53.720 candidate society that we have today from the you know 338 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:54.920 examples in this movie. 339 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.799 A lot the training, the background, the knowledge that goes 340 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.200 in the handling. A lot of these guys have handlers, 341 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.119 so they're not working independently. They may be seen as 342 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:09.880 kind of loan nuts or portrayed as loan nuts. And 343 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:14.160 Oswald was portrayed so it's always this lone nut motif, 344 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:17.559 but if you look behind the curtain, they all have 345 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:23.000 these friends with it. Oswald had like ten handlers and 346 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:26.920 in this movie. It's a really good question. By the way, 347 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:32.519 in this movie, the kind of assassin who's played by 348 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.720 Lawrence Harvey, his character's Raymond Tchuk. He's handled by the 349 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:39.119 communists and then he's handed over to his mother. His 350 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:42.799 mother's as handler, and she's hitting him with the hypnotic 351 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:46.559 suggestions and stuff like that. And if you follow, and 352 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:48.839 it's interesting, the timing of this is really something else 353 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:53.920 because Lee Harvey or Oswald's main handler at the very 354 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.000 end was a woman by the name of Ruth Ping 355 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:59.720 p Ai n E and she just passed away last 356 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:02.599 week at ninety two, and she took to her grave 357 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.160 some incredible secrets. But she was the one who got 358 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:10.440 him the job at the book Depository. But Oswald had 359 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:14.119 strange handlers almost all of his life from one and 360 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:18.720 he actually imitates Raymond Shaw's character who is controlled by 361 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:23.319 these communist block characters and then comes back for an 362 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:30.640 assassination here, whereas Oswald went to Soviet Union for eighteen 363 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:34.440 months and then came back here and directly committed assassination 364 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:38.640 within a year. It's incredible. And then he sheep dipped right. 365 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:40.440 He has a legend, he has an intel legend that 366 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:43.759 he's a communist sympathizer, but it's all fake. It's all public, 367 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:47.079 like he goes on TV. He's seen handing out flyers 368 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:50.519 for fair play for Cuba. But he also has like 369 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:54.599 weird handlers who are right wing. Pain is a fake leftist. 370 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:57.119 He also was under the aegis of the s guy 371 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.240 de Mornschild, who is a white Russian with the very 372 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:04.880 strange connections, a very strange guy. He also is covered 373 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:09.319 by David Ferry, a known I don't know what you 374 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:11.960 call it. He liked teen boys. Is he a pediast 375 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:14.759 or a pedophile or something, but his thing was he 376 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.680 liked teen boys. He was gay, and that's a no 377 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:19.559 no in that he was openly gay and the Catholic 378 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.559 Church at that time, so he got kicked out. But 379 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:27.119 he was also a known hypnotist. He was an expert 380 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.559 hypnotist and he knew how to do post hypnotic suggestion. 381 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:33.359 And when they found his room he was dead in 382 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.400 seven sixty seven. They had he had books on hypnotism everywhere. 383 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:40.759 He was a polymathic guy, was really smart. He knew 384 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:44.799 how to fly commercial airliners. He was a gun runner 385 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:45.680 CIA agent. 386 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:46.240 He was. 387 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:53.480 Jim Garrison, who did the prosecution of Clay Shaw, said 388 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:56.279 that David Ferry was one of the most important people 389 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:59.920 who ever lived like he really appreciated Faerry as this 390 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:04.440 handler of the Harvey Oswald. Somebody involved in the assassination 391 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:08.480 and somebody involved in trying to kill Castro a devout 392 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:13.440 anti communist. It's the strangest story. So so, I mean, 393 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.839 the whole show could be comparisons between this movie and 394 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:19.920 real life. But that's just one example. And what's shocking 395 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:22.799 about that example is it comes right after the this 396 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:27.160 movie's made. So Oswald emulates this Raymond Shock character all 397 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:29.200 the way to the end. 398 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:30.839 As soon as she says he's a pack. 399 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:32.799 Yeah, it was like, yo, I know. And you know, 400 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:35.039 another weird thing with Oswald is I don't know if 401 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:38.039