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<v Speaker 6>All right, what's up? Welcome everybody. It's been a while

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<v Speaker 6>since we have done literary analysis, so I'm much more subdued,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's going to be a lot softer as we

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<v Speaker 6>get into the literary analysis the Space trilogy. Have you

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<v Speaker 6>read the Space Trilogy? What do you think of it?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm enjoying it. I'm almost done, and so today's installment

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<v Speaker 6>will be the first book and halfway through Perilandra, and

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to get into the symbolism, the allegory, the

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<v Speaker 6>deep stuff. It's gonna be like a classic esoteric Hollywood

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<v Speaker 6>Jay's analysis style analysis. We haven't done one of those

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<v Speaker 6>in a long time, so I'm going back to my roots.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm not gonna do that stupid In pr voice,

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<v Speaker 6>I was trying to remember which.

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<v Speaker 11>C. S.

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis story it is. Where is it Prince Caspian that

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<v Speaker 6>his court esoteric teacher is Flood, and I think that

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis was probably intentionally borrowing from Robert Flood the esotericist right.

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<v Speaker 6>And you'll notice that throughout Lewis, as we will see today,

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<v Speaker 6>he intentionally chooses quite a few esoteric names to sprinkle

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<v Speaker 6>in his lit. And as we're gonna see, the Space

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<v Speaker 6>Trilogy will be a Christian dystopia, Christian themed dystopia, a

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<v Speaker 6>subtle Christian themed dystopia, not many of those. I can't

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<v Speaker 6>hardly think of any. So it's unique in what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think because it has these Christian redemptive themes,

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<v Speaker 6>that's probably why it hasn't been made into a movie.

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<v Speaker 6>You know Narnia. I mean Narnia has you know, Christian

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<v Speaker 6>themes as well. But Lewis I think, described his style

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<v Speaker 6>here as veiled theology, and so certainly Narnia is the

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<v Speaker 6>same thing. And to me they count as allegory. Remember

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<v Speaker 6>that allegory is a classic style of telling a story

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<v Speaker 6>through symbolism. Different types of elements within the story represent people, places, things,

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<v Speaker 6>events in other stories or in reality. We know from

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<v Speaker 6>Galatians four or that Paul uses the events of Abraham

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<v Speaker 6>and Sarah's life as an allegory for the church. So

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<v Speaker 6>allegory is a classic style of telling veiled meanings, messages,

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<v Speaker 6>et cetera through this literary device, and certainly Lewis is

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<v Speaker 6>engaging in this to a degree. People debate Tolkien. I

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<v Speaker 6>grew up reading Tolkien. I love Lord of the Rings,

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<v Speaker 6>some of the first stuff I ever started reading at length.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know that there's a lot of theories. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not really interested in getting into the theories on debating

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<v Speaker 6>who meant what and what exactly you know this meant

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<v Speaker 6>and who's right. And because a lot of people think, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>he was borrowing from Norse mythology at us, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 6>so those do not engage in a lot of allegory.

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<v Speaker 6>Norse mythology is intended to be kind of surface level.

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<v Speaker 6>It's intended to be what it is. I did have

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<v Speaker 6>grad classes on this, so I'm not speaking out of

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<v Speaker 6>my butt. I'm just going with what my grad lit

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<v Speaker 6>professor said. So I don't really care if you disagree.

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<v Speaker 6>You can have your own opinions. It doesn't bother me.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't really care what the true nerd dogma

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<v Speaker 6>on Lord of the Rings is. So if you don't

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<v Speaker 6>think that it's an allegory, that's fine, and I don't care.

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<v Speaker 6>I do think that it is a veiled Christian allegory,

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<v Speaker 6>and in fact, I'd still pretty much agree with my

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<v Speaker 6>analysis that I had on my TV show. We did

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<v Speaker 6>two episodes, if you guys remember, on Lord of the Rings.

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<v Speaker 6>My analysis was that Tolkien had seen, you know, World

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<v Speaker 6>War One, and he was looking to the potential dangers

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<v Speaker 6>of more wars in the future, and what world wars

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<v Speaker 6>would do if a technocratic my set was in place.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the Ring and the surveillance, the Pallanteer Stone,

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<v Speaker 6>all these things, right, They're emblematic of the magic of technology,

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<v Speaker 6>technology as a kind of magical power that gives all

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<v Speaker 6>of these promises and yet then ends up enslaving man.

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<v Speaker 6>And so they are allegories for the emerging dystopia, both

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<v Speaker 6>of them. I believe that both Lord of the Rings

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<v Speaker 6>and the Space Trilogy are essentially allegories for the same things. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>Lord of the Rings is a fantasy story. It's not

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<v Speaker 6>a sci fi dystopia, but it's a fantasy story with

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<v Speaker 6>clearly Christian imagery themes and borrowing from mythology as well.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that it's the perfect balance of that.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why people find Tolkiens so engaging and appealing, because

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<v Speaker 6>it was the right literary balance of Christian themes with

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<v Speaker 6>ancient mythology that also has meaning for our century and

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<v Speaker 6>well the last century and where we're going, because we're

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<v Speaker 6>going into the Mordor world, and the races busy fighting

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<v Speaker 6>each other don't understand that they have a common enemy

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<v Speaker 6>who is souron himself. And I know Sauron works for

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<v Speaker 6>a higher level fallen demon. I know all that. This

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<v Speaker 6>isn't about nerd dogma of who gets the orthodoxy of

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<v Speaker 6>the Lord of the Rings, right, I know it's in

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<v Speaker 6>the seemlar Alion, So yeah, I know about all that. Anyway. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>the reason I say all that is that you have

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<v Speaker 6>to understand that out of the Silent Planet, that the

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<v Speaker 6>main character in our first of the Space trilogy, Ransom,

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<v Speaker 6>is based on Tolkien. Tolkien the philologist, going into the

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<v Speaker 6>meanings of these words, the Middle English, the Old English,

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<v Speaker 6>how it derives from these various Germanic and Nordic and whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>all these all these different origins of the terms that

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<v Speaker 6>led him to the fascination with the mythology, and then

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<v Speaker 6>putting the mythology in a veiled theological treatise, and so

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<v Speaker 6>I view all of these really as again veiled theologies.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's when when that's the description Lewis himself gives

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<v Speaker 6>of this, someone wrote a letter to him and he said,

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<v Speaker 6>I call it veiled theology. And the academics will point

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<v Speaker 6>out that Out of the Silent Planet was written right

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<v Speaker 6>around the time when he was really adopting Christianity, but

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<v Speaker 6>it wasn't totally public. He wasn't like full on people.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't people weren't really sure. You know, he didn't

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<v Speaker 6>have his he didn't have his Instagram updated that day,

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<v Speaker 6>so people weren't exactly sure what his religious views were.

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<v Speaker 6>And he had had so many interactions with fellow academics

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<v Speaker 6>who were both esotericists and atheists, immterialists, and even transhumanists,

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<v Speaker 6>and so we're going to see the atheist, transum umanist,

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<v Speaker 6>dystopian themes in the Space Trilogy very clearly. To the

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<v Speaker 6>extent that I was watching some other professors lectures on

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<v Speaker 6>YouTube about this trilogy and I was surprised at how

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<v Speaker 6>many of these dumb dums don't know what the third

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<v Speaker 6>one is about. Oh, I don't know this Third One.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't get it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 6>It's weird, it's different. That's because it's about transhumanism and

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<v Speaker 6>the illuminating firm. Dummy, like, how do you not know this? Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>all of the people that are it's talking about the

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<v Speaker 6>great reset, It's talking about the people in the upper class,

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<v Speaker 6>the Malthusian elite that obviously C. S. Lewis was aware of,

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<v Speaker 6>that Tolkien was aware of because they were in these circles.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course they knew what bertrand Russell said. Of course

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<v Speaker 6>they knew what Malthusianism was. And so how is it

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<v Speaker 6>not obvious to you what the meaning of the Third

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<v Speaker 6>Book is? And how would you not recognize that it

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<v Speaker 6>predicted the Malthusian technocratic dystopia. I mean, this is the

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<v Speaker 6>meaning of the figure of Weston. Professor. Weston is the

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<v Speaker 6>atheistic materials professor who becomes possessed, becomes a demoniac, and

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<v Speaker 6>his cohort, Divine, ends up being the villain of the

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<v Speaker 6>Third One. And what happens what does he become? He

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<v Speaker 6>becomes lord, not Weston but Divine. Why would he become lord?

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<v Speaker 6>Because Lewis is telling you how the world really works.

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<v Speaker 6>You see, for those of us that you have spent

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<v Speaker 6>many years doing deep geopolitical analysis, deep history of all

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<v Speaker 6>this stuff, we can recognize the continuity of the agenda

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<v Speaker 6>from the time of HG. Wells, Versaron Russell, royal Society,

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<v Speaker 6>etcetera up till now with the great reset and full

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<v Speaker 6>one continuity in the writings of the present a elite

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<v Speaker 6>structure to fulfill this same agenda. And this is what

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis is telling you about. This is, as we pointed

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<v Speaker 6>out many times, something about fiction. Fiction has the ability

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<v Speaker 6>to be prophetic. Books can be prophetic. We pointed this

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<v Speaker 6>out with Darsievsky. Dolcievsky has prophetic novels and stories and events.

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<v Speaker 6>He predicts the communist socialist genocide of the Bolsheviks and

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<v Speaker 6>Sovietism to what fifteen twenty years beforehand, and possessed many, many,

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<v Speaker 6>many fiction writings have the ability to predict the future.

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<v Speaker 6>Now it's not all crystal ball stuff. I think that

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<v Speaker 6>being in the circles of you know, learned men, being

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<v Speaker 6>in the circles of royal society type people, being in

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<v Speaker 6>the circles of you know, the apex of the Darwinian Ethos, Oxford, Cambridge, right,

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<v Speaker 6>It's dominant amongst that class. It's still dominant amongst the

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<v Speaker 6>or in Tolkien's day. And if you don't know, they

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<v Speaker 6>to spur each other on to write different books. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of different movies about Tolkien's life, about C. S.

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<v Speaker 6>one of the adaptations, and they'll all include references to

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<v Speaker 6>the Inklings. Right now, there was another guy interesting that

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<v Speaker 6>the ideas of neoplatonic magic, which actually will come up

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<v Speaker 6>explicitly in Out of the Silent Planet. My suspicion is

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<v Speaker 6>affiliation in the Inklings with the guy who was in

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<v Speaker 6>me see, it's one of these dudes here. Let's see

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<v Speaker 6>And oh that's weird because he was part of the Inklings. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see if they mention it in here. But that's

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<v Speaker 6>not a surprising user. A lot of people in the

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<v Speaker 6>Church of England, right, I mean, they had already for

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<v Speaker 6>a long time being given over to these hermetic interests.

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<v Speaker 6>Christianity for them was probably a perennialist type of thing

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<v Speaker 6>where they didn't even see it as an actual religion

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<v Speaker 6>but rather to here we go. Yeah, So in nineteen

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<v Speaker 6>thirty one, an emphasis on platonic archetypes in his literature. Again,

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<v Speaker 6>his religion or excuse me, to his literature. But I

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like ninety nine percent sure that he's the one

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<v Speaker 6>that was in the Golden Dawn. Yep, exactly. See, there's

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<v Speaker 6>even academic literature on this very topic. See there you go.

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<v Speaker 6>Told you I know what I'm talking about. I remember

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<v Speaker 6>my rememberings so Akling member Charles Williams, and I don't

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<v Speaker 6>but if you remember, Crowley eventually leaves the gold in

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<v Speaker 6>Dawn to start his magical Order. Now, I do not

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<v Speaker 6>believe that C. S. Lewis or Tolkien are evil occultists.

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<v Speaker 6>Some people get their panties in a bundle and get

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<v Speaker 6>all upset about this. I'm not a puritan. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think there's anything wrong with using fantasy or science fiction

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<v Speaker 6>as a literary device to convey a meaning or a message. Again,

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<v Speaker 6>this is just what allegory is. Allegory is utilizing and

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<v Speaker 6>playing with images and symbols to construct a new version

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<v Speaker 6>of a story. Playing with the archetypes, right, So I

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<v Speaker 6>don't see magic inherently as a problem in literature, as

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<v Speaker 6>a literary device, as a kind of a maguffin or

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<v Speaker 6>something like that, right, And and Lewis's the way he

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<v Speaker 6>a way to talk about the spiritual realm, or to

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<v Speaker 6>talk about what if we had a planet where the

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<v Speaker 6>fall hadn't occurred yet, or it's in a different time.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, Venus has to undergo its Eden tempting situation, right,

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<v Speaker 6>which is of course what part two is about, right,

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<v Speaker 6>Parilandra is the Eden temptation on the planet of Venus,

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<v Speaker 6>because Venus hasn't been tempted yet that planet. And we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna see again a lot of these esoteric neoplatonic themes.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the most surprising thing to me out of

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<v Speaker 6>at the end. Again, I don't think it shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 6>that surprising, given the fact that the names that are

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<v Speaker 6>constantly drop in the literature is kind of weaving together

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<v Speaker 6>celestial spheres, if you didn't know about the neoplatonic hierarchical

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<v Speaker 6>view of the universe, if you didn't know about the

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<v Speaker 6>influence of Neoplatonism and Renaissance hermetic text, if you hadn't

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<v Speaker 6>studied Elizabethan usage of alchemy in Elizabethan literature, which I

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<v Speaker 6>did quite a bit in grad school. I know I've

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<v Speaker 6>written mini papers on that. You can all find them.

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<v Speaker 6>They're all public on my website. You'll know that they

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<v Speaker 6>love to play with this image of alchemy. Now, Lewis

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<v Speaker 6>and Tolkien would have been adamantly totally familiar with their

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<v Speaker 6>own English tradition. And for those that don't know, Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't the only person writing mystical esoteric plays and treatises. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>you've got Spencer's Fairy Queen, which is a wild hermetic, alchemist,

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<v Speaker 6>neoplatonic myth of England. I mean it's very is crazy, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and it was supposed to be the aneid of the

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<v Speaker 6>British Empire, right, and so it is packed with just

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<v Speaker 6>all of this just outland, just wild neoplatonic magic, theurgy,

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<v Speaker 6>hermetic alchemy, imagery. And if you don't know Ben Johnson,

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<v Speaker 6>John Dunn. All of those guys from that period wrote

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<v Speaker 6>esoteric hermetic alchemical plays, poems, treatises all the time. This

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<v Speaker 6>period is dominated by this stuff. So I think what

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis and Tolkien are doing with and more so Lewis

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<v Speaker 6>in this regard than Tolkien, because Tolkien reaches back beyond

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<v Speaker 6>any of that stuff. He doesn't seem to have much

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<v Speaker 6>of an interest in that, more so reaching into ancient

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<v Speaker 6>myth going back to just straight up Greek mythology something

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<v Speaker 6>like that, right, Lewis seems to have more of an

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<v Speaker 6>interest in pulling from medieval neoplatonism. And that was the

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<v Speaker 6>weirdest part of Out of the Signment Planet is the

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<v Speaker 6>PostScript where Lewis himself, breaking a kind of fourth wall,

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<v Speaker 6>steps in to write a letter to Ransom.

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<v Speaker 5>So C. S.

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis, the actual author of the book, writes a fictional

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<v Speaker 6>letter to Ransom based on Tolkien, which is pretty Again,

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<v Speaker 6>it's all fascinating, right, And there's these explanations that, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, what you thought was a wild tale is

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<v Speaker 6>real because on other planets they have that they're teeming

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<v Speaker 6>with life. The universe is something more akin to a

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<v Speaker 6>medieval neoplatonic view. Of the universe as it is explained,

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<v Speaker 6>and they even mentioned some guy I don't remember if

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<v Speaker 6>I had the name of the person. I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>it's a real person, but I could be wrong, because

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<v Speaker 6>actually gave a name. They call him Nicholas somebody. Maybe it'supposed,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe it's a stand different Nicolas of Cusa. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 6>just made up. I don't recall. But the emphasis is

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<v Speaker 6>on the fact that as a philologist, Ransom had discovered

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<v Speaker 6>in ancient texts that other medieval neoplatonists had seen or

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<v Speaker 6>had interacted with, these beings, these planetary rulers. So the

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<v Speaker 6>idea of planetary rulers or planetary sigils and symbols, right,

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<v Speaker 6>this is a classic Hermetic, ancient medieval alchemical notion that

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<v Speaker 6>for each of the planets they also have an angelic ruler.

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<v Speaker 6>And this, I mean, this isn't even foreign to the

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<v Speaker 6>Biblical cosmology either, right, if we've all read divine names,

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<v Speaker 6>if we're familiar with St. Dionysius and his cosmology the

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<v Speaker 6>celestial hierarchy, this is very amenable to the Orthodox view

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<v Speaker 6>in some respects as well, So we should all be

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<v Speaker 6>very familiar with this, especially given the angelic references and

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<v Speaker 6>structure in the Orthodox liturgy, in the Byzantine Liturgy, to

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<v Speaker 6>the powers thrown, principalities, dominions, et cetera, et cetera. So

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis wants to pull from that and talk about how

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<v Speaker 6>the ancient and medieval cosmology and its notions of an

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<v Speaker 6>angelic hierarchy, the nine choirs of the angels, that's the

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<v Speaker 6>real ordering of the universe, according to him. And it's

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<v Speaker 6>becomes really evident in the first novel because the main

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<v Speaker 6>villain there is Professor Weston, who is basically a mad scientist,

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<v Speaker 6>and Weston his whole goal is to spread dialectical materialism,

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<v Speaker 6>radical materialism to the universe, and so it becomes this

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<v Speaker 6>dominating attempt to a man, it's a materialist manifest destiny

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<v Speaker 6>to spread empiricist materialism imperialism to the whole universe. And

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis makes a point to you know, to stress that

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<v Speaker 6>this is actually destructive. It will destroy the worlds that

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<v Speaker 6>they take it to. So if you don't know, basically,

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<v Speaker 6>just summarize. I'm not going to repeat the whole story

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<v Speaker 6>to you. But in the first one you have this

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<v Speaker 6>Professor Ransom who is kidnapped drugged and taken to a

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<v Speaker 6>planet he doesn't know where. He's taken off in the

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<v Speaker 6>spaceship to a planet called Malacandra. And Malachandra is Mars,

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<v Speaker 6>and Mars has its own language, its own creatures, its

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<v Speaker 6>own beings. It's like hedgehog people, and you know, all

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<v Speaker 6>kinds of crazy stuff going on on Malachandra or Marsh.

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<v Speaker 6>And we find out that his kidnappers Weston and Divine.

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<v Speaker 6>Professor Weston is the radical atheistic materialist psycho. So basically

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<v Speaker 6>Birch and Russell. Okay, So Professor Weston, I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 6>surprised if I mean Lewis knew about this, he knew

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<v Speaker 6>about the Malthusian mindset. He probably based it on Bert

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<v Speaker 6>and Russell. I mean, I don't know that. I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>saying that's who as I'm reading a story, that's who

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<v Speaker 6>comes to mind. Okay. So basically he's up there in

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<v Speaker 6>space with bertrand Russell, who has kidnapped him with this

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<v Speaker 6>other compatriot of his, this character named Divine, and Divine's

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<v Speaker 6>only motivations are great. He's heard that Mars has gold,

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<v Speaker 6>and his thinking is, you know, something like what we're

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<v Speaker 6>hearing from Bezos and Elon musk Oh, you know, we

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<v Speaker 6>will solve our resource problems when we get to Mars,

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<v Speaker 6>because Mars and the Moon they're going to have minerals,

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<v Speaker 6>and we won't have mineral problems anymore because we can

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<v Speaker 6>farm the planets from which I think is a bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of nonsense, right, but regardless, that's what they're saying. So again,

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<v Speaker 6>in ways you can even see today's purported private space programs,

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<v Speaker 6>right musk Bezos, Branson. They're also kind of prefigured in

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<v Speaker 6>either the Weston or the divine character who have kidnapped

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<v Speaker 6>Ransom and taken him to this planet, which he finds

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<v Speaker 6>out later is Mars. I won't go into all the

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<v Speaker 6>details of the Mars. The one thing that I don't

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<v Speaker 6>like about this book from the outset is the language.

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<v Speaker 6>So Mars has its own language, and Lewis really wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to play with the language like Tolkien did. You can

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<v Speaker 6>tell he's definitely doing this because he saw that Tolkien

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<v Speaker 6>Hobbit you know, begins with playing with this Elvish terminology

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<v Speaker 6>and the language of Mordor versus the language of the Hobbits,

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<v Speaker 6>and the elves and blah blah blah blah blah, which

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<v Speaker 6>I understand. I don't have a I don't mind that

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<v Speaker 6>having a place. There is just way too much of

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<v Speaker 6>that in the first book, and it becomes a hassle

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<v Speaker 6>and it becomes annoying. And I understand it's the literary

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<v Speaker 6>device they liked. They're philologists, they want to play with language.

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<v Speaker 6>But the words are stupid. First of all, trifle figgy.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it sounds like the dumbest possible thing that

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<v Speaker 6>British people could come up with. What's the most dumb,

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<v Speaker 6>stupid British sounding made up name. Magnify it by ten,

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<v Speaker 6>put it on acid, then put it on a dose

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<v Speaker 6>of Mollie. And then what do I get? Oh the

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<v Speaker 6>triple Figies quote a triple Figi's and all the British

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<v Speaker 6>literature wants to do this. Oh got we dumbledolele we

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<v Speaker 6>feeble wobbles get me wobblesh you mean dumb doubles. It's

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<v Speaker 6>like this is dumb. Okay, I'm not five years old. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>I know this is written for kids, but what is

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<v Speaker 6>the British love for these stupid words?

411
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<v Speaker 2>Let mean wobblesh?

412
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 6>You mean figu wobblesh mean figgy, eagles mean rolling aham,

413
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 6>just the goofy words. Anyway, it's overdone. That's the main

414
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.000
<v Speaker 6>problem with this book. Otherwise it's a great work of literature.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, let's look through the glossary and I think

416
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<v Speaker 6>he wants you to have fun in the sense of

417
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 6>like maybe a kid would have fun decoding this and

418
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 6>keeping up with the glossary. And you can tell a

419
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.119
<v Speaker 6>lot of this sounds just like Tolkien stuff. It's all

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<v Speaker 6>Eldish el Deal, the eld deal Bid. Bog El Dil

421
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<v Speaker 6>is of course spirit or an angel, and you've got

422
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:32.239
<v Speaker 6>malel Dil. That will be important because malel Deal is

423
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 6>basically the Christ figure in the storyline. Right, everybody knows

424
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<v Speaker 6>Aslan is a Christ type of figure in Narnia, Malel

425
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 6>Dial is Jesus of this Space Trilogy universe. Essentially, there's

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<v Speaker 6>a bunch of other stupid names that are just kind

427
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 6>of just annoying and ridiculous. I mean, only a British

428
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 6>boy in the nineteen forties could enjoy this stuff. It's

429
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:06.000
<v Speaker 6>just stupid and it clogs up the story for me, right,

430
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:07.559
<v Speaker 6>I don't mind it. In the Lord of the Rings,

431
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 6>because I feel like in the Lord of the Rings,

432
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 6>I'm really getting some kind of Elvish language, and that's

433
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:16.880
<v Speaker 6>just kind of cool, I guess. And everybody going into

434
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:18.519
<v Speaker 6>The Lord of the Rings knows what they're getting into

435
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 6>when they've got this gigantic, you know, thousand page thing,

436
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.280
<v Speaker 6>and you know you're gonna have to deal with token

437
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 6>Tolkien's like pages of description of the geography in the land,

438
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 6>and you're gonna have to it's basically an entire language. Okay,

439
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:33.719
<v Speaker 6>I know what I'm getting into with that. This is

440
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 6>like a tiny kid book with I don't know how

441
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:41.960
<v Speaker 6>many pages, one hundred and forty pages or something, and

442
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:46.760
<v Speaker 6>I've got to have this chart to decode all these

443
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 6>stupid words. Other than that, it's great. It's really good.

444
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:59.519
<v Speaker 6>It's an easy, fun read, it's not difficult. And the theology,

445
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 6>as we said, veiled, it doesn't lay on a bunch

446
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 6>of heavy stuff. It's like you're enjoying this dystopian kind

447
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:08.679
<v Speaker 6>of science fiction story and then you're getting a little

448
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 6>doses of theology here and there, and you're starting to

449
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 6>figure out, Okay, so what the problem in this story

450
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 6>is is that they want to sacrifice a human for

451
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 6>the potentiality of ruling this world. Right, Ransom thinks that

452
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 6>if he can convince these people on Mars, these beings

453
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 6>on Mars, to go along with his scheme, then he

454
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.320
<v Speaker 6>can gain control of that planet, and then they can

455
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 6>kind of expand their materialist imperialism to the other planets

456
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 6>throughout the universe. And this ends up not working. Ransom

457
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 6>basically foils I'm looking from a notes for the first one.

458
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:57.519
<v Speaker 6>Ransom foils the plans of Western He ends up meeting

459
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 6>with the planetary ruler of Mars, who is oyarsa I think, yeah,

460
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 6>And it's interesting because the planetary rulers are clearly a

461
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.840
<v Speaker 6>different kind of angel than the other angels, right, So

462
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 6>that so he's pulling from either Neoplatonism or medieval hermeticism

463
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 6>or Dionysius to bring in the notion of different types

464
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 6>of angelic beings. Mars is ruled by an angelic being

465
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:31.239
<v Speaker 6>who is not inherently an evil or fallen figure. It's

466
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 6>just sort of the planetary ruler of Mars, the spirit

467
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 6>ruler of Mars, and west excuse me, what's his name.

468
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 6>Ransom figures out what Weston is up to, and then

469
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.639
<v Speaker 6>he realizes that he has providentially been brought there to

470
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:54.519
<v Speaker 6>help foil these nefarious designs of merchant Russell in space

471
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 6>basically right, So he convinces the ruler of Mars that

472
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 6>Weston is a bad guy, that he's actually a murderer.

473
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 6>He's had people killed, kidnapped, and he's trying to foment

474
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:15.679
<v Speaker 6>a destruction on Mars. And then it says at the

475
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 6>end when Lewis introduced himself as the character, and they

476
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 6>end up foiling the plot, of course, but Weston doesn't

477
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 6>get killed. Weston gets away, and he will be the

478
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 6>villain in part two as well. It notes that Lewis

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00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 6>says that he had written to Ransom inquiring whether he

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00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 6>had ever come across the word O yarsa in any

481
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:42.159
<v Speaker 6>medieval Neoplatonic texts. This prompts Ransom to share the secret

482
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 6>that the two resolved to hinder Weston from doing further

483
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 6>evil due to the rapid march of the coming or

484
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 6>contemporary events. So we're supposed to realize that, even though

485
00:39:54.480 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 6>it's a fiction work, the themes of physicist Weston, the

486
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 6>plans are going to continue because he got away, he

487
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:09.280
<v Speaker 6>didn't get killed. Weston is described as a thick set, physicist,

488
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.800
<v Speaker 6>ruthless and arrogant in part one mocks all classics and

489
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 6>history as trash, and he's in favor of pure hard

490
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:22.599
<v Speaker 6>science and the expansion of the dialectical or reductionist, materialist

491
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 6>atheist worldview. So clearly then the theme is Lewis critiquing

492
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 6>the evil impetus of that worldview, the Bertran Russell type

493
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 6>of worldview, its predatory nature in terms of expanding and

494
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:46.519
<v Speaker 6>needing to conquer and destroy with the materialist ethos. And

495
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 6>then even though we've been introduced to this idea as

496
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:55.960
<v Speaker 6>a critique of the Enlightenment rationalist Darwinian Malthusiam materialist motivation

497
00:40:56.119 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 6>and mindset, in part two, it's going to become more spiritual.

498
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 6>We're going to move out of just this worldview critique

499
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.840
<v Speaker 6>and we're going to move into the spiritual explanation for

500
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 6>the worldview. And this is not again, not a theme

501
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.119
<v Speaker 6>that comes up in Lewis as well. Right in Narnia,

502
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:19.960
<v Speaker 6>we have similar notions of beings that are different types

503
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 6>of beings that are impelled by evil spiritual forces and

504
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:27.679
<v Speaker 6>not just by angelic good forces or not just by

505
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 6>being characters. Right, characters have the ability in these stories

506
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:37.719
<v Speaker 6>to partake of evil powers or good angelic powers. And

507
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:42.320
<v Speaker 6>I think that's partly why so many Orthodox people find

508
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.239
<v Speaker 6>Lewis so amenable, is that you do you kind of

509
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 6>have theosis in Lewis's stories and in his novels. I mean,

510
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 6>think of Screwtape Letters, right, hopefully everybody's read Screwtape Letters.

511
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:55.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean it's a fiction piece, but it's just a

512
00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.639
<v Speaker 6>brilliant insight into spiritual warfare, into the demonic. And we

513
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 6>get something very similar with Part two. So even though

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00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:09.360
<v Speaker 6>Part one will give has themes of evil, it's mainly

515
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:13.440
<v Speaker 6>focused on the either or of the worldview of Ransom

516
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 6>and his deference to malel dial in the angelic structure

517
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 6>that Christ, the Christ figure has created for the universe

518
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 6>and obeying his laws. It's this contrast of the two

519
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 6>world views. And then in Part two both of them progress.

520
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 6>Both Western and Ransom progress in their journeys Weston in

521
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:41.880
<v Speaker 6>the sense of becoming possessed. He will move from being

522
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:46.760
<v Speaker 6>a reductionist, atheist, materialist to a kind of New Age

523
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:53.800
<v Speaker 6>spiritualist who is literally demonically possessed, and his worldview will evolve,

524
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.960
<v Speaker 6>it will change. He's not a reductionist materialist anymore. And

525
00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:58.360
<v Speaker 6>it's going to be fast and we're going to see

526
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.199
<v Speaker 6>in a minute who his worldview is more or akin to.

527
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 6>And for Ransom. Also, his worldview has progressed. He has

528
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.519
<v Speaker 6>grown in his theological understanding, and that's why the focus

529
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.880
<v Speaker 6>of Perilandra will be heavily theological. It's going to be

530
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 6>a series of I mean, it's it's fascinating because it's

531
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 6>unique and it's almost like it's not really a sci

532
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:25.320
<v Speaker 6>fi dystopia. It's almost mythology. So it will be more

533
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 6>like Lewis will pull from Greek mythology in Peralandra than

534
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 6>anything like you know as a mob or Arthur C. Clark,

535
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:40.880
<v Speaker 6>even though it's a space fiction thing. It's kind of

536
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:43.559
<v Speaker 6>like contrasting Star Wars to Star Trek, right, I mean,

537
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 6>Star Trek is like the hardcore so called sooyance, and

538
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 6>Star Wars is more like I mean classic Star Wars,

539
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.880
<v Speaker 6>not Disney Star Wars. Classic Star Wars is more like

540
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 6>space opera. And that's what Perilandra will be. But it's

541
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:05.280
<v Speaker 6>not just space opera, fantasy, see and mythology. It's also

542
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:12.519
<v Speaker 6>going to engage in fairly sophisticated theological debate, so that

543
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.199
<v Speaker 6>that is not what I expected. I did not expect

544
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 6>the movement from part one to part two to be

545
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 6>fairly sophisticated theological debate because in the novel, Ransom will

546
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:32.320
<v Speaker 6>have the debates and discussions with Venus, the planetary spirit

547
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:38.159
<v Speaker 6>ruler of Venus, the girl the goddess Venus, and with Weston,

548
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:45.880
<v Speaker 6>who is now fully demonically possessed. So and it reminds

549
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:49.000
<v Speaker 6>me too that there's other cases in Lewis like this

550
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 6>as well. Remember Jadas, right, Jadas is similar. It just

551
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:56.360
<v Speaker 6>made me think of similar situations because she's like this

552
00:44:56.559 --> 00:45:00.519
<v Speaker 6>ice queen, right, and she's not Lilith, but she's reminds

553
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 6>me of Lilith. And she is summoned with like magic bells.

554
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 6>Remember that. And then in the first Magician's Nephew, there's

555
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.000
<v Speaker 6>these pools that are like portals that you step into

556
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.400
<v Speaker 6>the different worlds. I mean, all that's fascinating. I think

557
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:19.880
<v Speaker 6>Magician's Nephew is excellent. It's it's better than Lion Witch

558
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:26.320
<v Speaker 6>and the Wardrobe. Actually, I think Uh Boy and his

559
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:30.840
<v Speaker 6>Horse is better than Language and Wardrobe. I mean, I

560
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:32.840
<v Speaker 6>like the land Witch and the wardrobe, and I understand

561
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 6>why everybody likes it, But there's other ones in that

562
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.719
<v Speaker 6>series that are that are a lot better and more interesting,

563
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:45.119
<v Speaker 6>and they're they're they're all allegorical. But what you have

564
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.880
<v Speaker 6>in Perilandra is something way more serious and sophisticated than

565
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 6>anything you would find in Narnia. Right, this is I mean,

566
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 6>he's he's even gonna deal with themes of sexuality in

567
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 6>the Fall. He's gonna deal with prede and free will.

568
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 6>He's going to deal with the mode of being in

569
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.800
<v Speaker 6>which Eden in the world would have been if it

570
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 6>hadn't fallen. And he's doing it through this literary device

571
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 6>of saying, what if Venus on Venus, the fall has

572
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 6>or the temptation or the fall hasn't happened yet. And

573
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 6>so the idea is that the angelic beings, even though

574
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 6>they're outside of time and space, or they're outside of

575
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 6>time as we understand it, maybe they're undergoing a temptation

576
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:33.320
<v Speaker 6>as well, kind of outside of time, and so they're

577
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 6>being tempted in their own ways. And that's precisely what

578
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:44.480
<v Speaker 6>part two is about. So Paralandra is about Weston having

579
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 6>to go back. He doesn't exactly know why on another journey,

580
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:53.119
<v Speaker 6>another adventure, and he has taken to Venus, and he's

581
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:59.679
<v Speaker 6>taken there to meet with the angelic spiritual being ruler

582
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 6>of Venus, this goddess Venus and her king who we've

583
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.320
<v Speaker 6>not met yet, who is for whatever reason absent, and

584
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 6>I think we will. I will tell you why that

585
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:14.760
<v Speaker 6>is her in a moment. Why I think that is.

586
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:20.960
<v Speaker 6>At the beginning, Ransom mentions different esoteric schools, which I

587
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:26.639
<v Speaker 6>didn't expect that had spoken of seeing these spiritual entities

588
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:31.599
<v Speaker 6>and beings. He mentions Rudolph Steiner's anthroposophy. Now that was

589
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 6>odd to me. That was bizarre because, as everybody knows,

590
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:40.079
<v Speaker 6>Steiner was a disciple of Blovatski Blevatski's theosophy of crazy

591
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 6>cult and Steiner went in a different direction created his

592
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:48.679
<v Speaker 6>own cult anthroposophy. But it also has this idea of,

593
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.280
<v Speaker 6>you know, seeing into the spiritual realm and seeing all

594
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 6>these different sort of beings and whatnot. And so I

595
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.679
<v Speaker 6>don't again, I don't think C. S. Lewis was an anthroposophist,

596
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.199
<v Speaker 6>but I think he's saying that what these esoterists are

597
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.239
<v Speaker 6>talking about is the same thing that I'm describing to you.

598
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.840
<v Speaker 6>Which is the same thing that Christianity describes as the

599
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.480
<v Speaker 6>spiritual realm, which is not just populated by quote angels

600
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 6>and demons, but populated by various types of angelic beings

601
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.119
<v Speaker 6>and various types of demonic beings. Because remember in the Orthodox,

602
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:25.719
<v Speaker 6>in the Christian view, it's not just quote one generic

603
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 6>type of angel that fell. There's nine choirs of angels

604
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 6>in the Biblical revelation, and angels from each of those

605
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 6>angelic choirs fell, So there are various types of demonic

606
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:47.480
<v Speaker 6>and angelic beings. So I think that's the theology, the philosophy,

607
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:52.719
<v Speaker 6>the esoteric idea that undergirds this. It's not an anthroposophical text,

608
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 6>but it's pulling from the notion of anthroposophists that you can,

609
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, experienced the spiritual world and there's all these beings.

610
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 6>That's why I think Ransom mentions that at the beginning,

611
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 6>and then we have the an even clearer description. We

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<v Speaker 6>kind of got this in part one, but it becomes

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit clearer in part two that the aliens

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<v Speaker 6>that or the beings the space beings that are being

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<v Speaker 6>encountered are angels and demons. So Lewis was way ahead

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<v Speaker 6>of his time in pointing out that the alien UFO

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<v Speaker 6>type thing that's going on, whatever that is, is, at

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<v Speaker 6>least on one level, a spiritual phenomenon aka angels and demons.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if anybody else prior to him had

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<v Speaker 6>even spoken this way. Maybe I'm just guessing, speculating. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't really know. I'm sure somebody out there has, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>a better assessment of who would have been the first

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<v Speaker 6>person to really question this ocean of alien beings and

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<v Speaker 6>tying it to the demonic again, who the first person

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<v Speaker 6>was to do that, I don't know. By the way,

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<v Speaker 6>this show does keep going by your superchats, so I

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<v Speaker 6>would implore you, if you do want to see me,

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<v Speaker 6>continue to scream, scream, scream on stream. I do both.

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<v Speaker 6>I do scream and I do stream, and I scream

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<v Speaker 6>on stream. You can support me via superchats that are

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<v Speaker 6>done through stream Labs. So thank you to the mods

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<v Speaker 6>for continuing to put those stream laves links. And I

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<v Speaker 6>want to thank everybody who did move over to rock Fin.

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<v Speaker 6>We had a huge jump in the subscribers over on

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<v Speaker 6>you that haven't moved over there to also follow me

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<v Speaker 6>and make it a subscription account over on Rockfin because

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<v Speaker 6>that is a free speech based platform. It's an excellent platform.

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<v Speaker 6>They're really good to their content creators and they're kind.

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<v Speaker 6>They're basically what YouTube was in twenty twelve. So if

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<v Speaker 6>you want to go back in time to like fund

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<v Speaker 6>more based YouTube, definitely go over to rock Fin. And

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<v Speaker 6>they're a great red bull free speech company, so they

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<v Speaker 6>stick to their principles. So again, I'll be reading the

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<v Speaker 6>super Chatz here in a moment, and we're only going

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<v Speaker 6>to do the first half, as you know, because I

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<v Speaker 6>put quite a bit of time and effort into this

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<v Speaker 6>type of a talk. It's a half and half talk.

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<v Speaker 6>So for those who are interested in hearing the second

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<v Speaker 6>half of Parilandra and the third book, The Hideous Strength

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<v Speaker 6>That He Is Strength, the third part of the trilogy,

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<v Speaker 6>you will need to subscribe to Jays Analysis. It will

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<v Speaker 6>also be available to the rock Fin subscribers as well.

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<v Speaker 6>But this is a this will be a member's based

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<v Speaker 6>talk and the third one is the most revelatory. Remember

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<v Speaker 6>the third one, we will have basically the Illuminate Confirm.

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<v Speaker 6>We will have the Illuminate Confirm wanting to depopulate explicitly

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<v Speaker 6>with their Malthusian agenda. So C. S. Lewis is exposing

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<v Speaker 6>us to the real illuminate, confirm. And now you see

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<v Speaker 6>why this has never been made into movies and it

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<v Speaker 6>never will be made into me this. You can't have

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<v Speaker 6>what is the subject of this in a veiled Christian

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<v Speaker 6>theology out there in blockbuster form. You see, they would

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<v Speaker 6>never allow that. Disney, you know, they kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>did what the first three of Narnia, and I mean

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<v Speaker 6>Narnia is what's the word I'm looking for. Narnia is

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<v Speaker 6>kid enough that it's not really that sophisticated, you know

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean. Yes, Oslyn dies, okay, so he dies

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<v Speaker 6>for the people. Jesus dies to be worried. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>that's it's basically what's going on in Narnia. It's not

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<v Speaker 6>it's not super sophisticated in language and wardrobe, but here

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<v Speaker 6>it does get more sophisticated. So let's get into this.

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<v Speaker 6>So Ransom is experiencing Venus, and he's noticed that time

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<v Speaker 6>and space and things don't work the same on Venus

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<v Speaker 6>like they do on Earth. And eventually he comes to

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<v Speaker 6>realize when he meets Venus herself and begins to dialogue

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<v Speaker 6>and debate and interact with her. That Venus has not fallen,

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<v Speaker 6>and so he still doesn't know why he's there, why

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<v Speaker 6>Christ has essentially sent him to Venus for some mission

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<v Speaker 6>he doesn't know exactly yet, and he realizes, Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 6>not fallen. And then he realizes, after kind of making

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<v Speaker 6>his way and getting used to the lay of the

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<v Speaker 6>land and the weirdness of Venus are on this sort

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<v Speaker 6>of floating island, that there's different laws for different planets.

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<v Speaker 6>So the ethics of Venus are such that the inhabitants

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<v Speaker 6>of Venus are forbidden to sleep on fixed land, so

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<v Speaker 6>they can go on land, but they can't sleep there,

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<v Speaker 6>and we don't exactly know why, but that's essentially what

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<v Speaker 6>the law of Venus is that Christ gave to it.

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<v Speaker 6>And so Western, you know, excuse me a Ransom, is

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<v Speaker 6>fine with all that. He's just sort of mystified and

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<v Speaker 6>blown away by all this weird metaphysics of Venus. And

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<v Speaker 6>then we find a spaceship crashes there and wouldn't you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Weston shows up, all right, So Weston has also been

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<v Speaker 6>sent to Venus before a different purpose. Western's trip to

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<v Speaker 6>Venus is because he is being impelled by the black ARCon. No,

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<v Speaker 6>it's not David Ike time does anytime I hear that, now,

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<v Speaker 6>I know it's a Gnostic thing, but every time I

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<v Speaker 6>hear it's like, okay, some of this is David Ike world. Now.

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<v Speaker 6>So the black akon the cheta Uri on Venus, you

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<v Speaker 6>see that, yeomen's on Venus. Satan, who we find out

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<v Speaker 6>is the fallen ruler of Earth. So Earth's angel fell

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<v Speaker 6>and rebelled. You see again, that's pretty much right Jesus.

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<v Speaker 6>When Jesus is tempted by Satan, what does Satan say?

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<v Speaker 6>All of this is mine. I can give this world

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<v Speaker 6>to you if you'll worship me. And of course, this

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<v Speaker 6>I think is the true sense of the term ARCon.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, that's a term used in not just Gnostics,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's just a term in the Greek for a power,

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<v Speaker 6>a deity, an angel, a being a planetary ruler. So

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<v Speaker 6>the planetary ruler of Earth we find out, is Satan,

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<v Speaker 6>and he's fallen, and he has a desire to lead

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<v Speaker 6>an attack on Venus because he wants to in this

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<v Speaker 6>cosmic spiritual warfare. He wants Venus to fall because Venus

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<v Speaker 6>is still under the dominion of Christ, and the planetary

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<v Speaker 6>rulers of Venus are still loyal to Christ. But Ransom

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<v Speaker 6>is sent there with Satanic power. Now excuse me, Weston,

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<v Speaker 6>I keep you any Weston is sent there at the

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<v Speaker 6>impetus of Satan. He doesn't actually know this yet, but

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<v Speaker 6>he's actually possessed, and his goal is to tempt Venus

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<v Speaker 6>to fall. And we know that it's not fallen because

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<v Speaker 6>when Ransom is there, Venus is naked and for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 6>Ransom had to be naked because he was delivered there

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<v Speaker 6>in a silver ice casket or some kind of weird

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<v Speaker 6>space casket, I should say, and he's naked. Venus is naked.

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<v Speaker 6>She's a babe, a buxom babe. But he says, I

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<v Speaker 6>was not tempted. There's absolutely no sexual temptation. He said.

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<v Speaker 6>That's when I realized, Okay, so Venus isn't fallen. And

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<v Speaker 6>my guess as to the fixed land versus sea allowance

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<v Speaker 6>would be that in the Neoplatonic idea, you would have

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<v Speaker 6>a gradation of stasis versus change, right, stasis being better

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<v Speaker 6>than change. Actually not just in Neoplatonism. That would be

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<v Speaker 6>pretty much true for Plato Aristotle or most Greek philosophers, right,

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<v Speaker 6>unless it was somebody like you know, Heraclitis or something, right,

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<v Speaker 6>unless it was a philosophy thought that all this flux,

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<v Speaker 6>the idea of stasis and change, that's the only thing

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<v Speaker 6>I could come up with, the floating land versus the sea,

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<v Speaker 6>and that you can't sleep on stable land, which was

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<v Speaker 6>Christ's rule law for Venus for whatever reason, the only

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<v Speaker 6>thing I could come up with is that in the

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<v Speaker 6>Neoplatonic or the Greek colinic systems, stasis is superior to change.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the temptation for the beings that were allowed

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<v Speaker 6>to sleep, or sea being sleeping in the ocean, their

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<v Speaker 6>temptation would be all I want to experience stasis, right,

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<v Speaker 6>And in the Hellenic dialectic, stasis is superior to flux

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<v Speaker 6>or change. So the ocean being in constant movement versus

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<v Speaker 6>land being fixed in stasis, and it's called fixed versus

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<v Speaker 6>ocean right in the novel, that would be the temptation

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<v Speaker 6>for them. And that's not the only temptation, right When Ransom,

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<v Speaker 6>excuse me, when Weston engages in all these dialogues and

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<v Speaker 6>debates and explanations and stories trying to get venus to sin.

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<v Speaker 6>He uses things like appeals to vanity, appeals to pride.

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<v Speaker 6>He says, you need mirrors, you need makeup, you need

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<v Speaker 6>all these things that make you beautiful to you. And

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<v Speaker 6>so I think there's a conscious pull from the narcissusthology.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis is clearly intentionally referring to Narcissus. I wrote a

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<v Speaker 6>whole essay by the way, years ago. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 6>I had not read this. I didn't know this was

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<v Speaker 6>in here. Just on my own research. I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 6>if you think about it, the story of Narcissus is

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like the Fall, right. It's a turn inward.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a turn to worshiping the self and vanity. And

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis does that exact thing in this story to pull

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<v Speaker 6>from the Narcissus mythology mythos to.

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<v Speaker 2>Make it.

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<v Speaker 6>Comparable to the fall, because the Fall is essentially not

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<v Speaker 6>our worship and obedience directed to God. It's a turn inward. Remember,

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<v Speaker 6>we just saw this in the last livestream that we did,

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<v Speaker 6>where we looked at Genesis two and three when it

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<v Speaker 6>talks about God's law and covenant for Eden and Adam

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<v Speaker 6>and Eves saying being tempted Satan saying, no, you will

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<v Speaker 6>determine good and evil. You will turn into yourself upon yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>You will look at yourself, you will worship yourself. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's what Weston says. Weston says Venus, Venus, baby, We're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna make you a sty I mean he's literally actually

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<v Speaker 6>he sounds like a kind of like a Hollywood groomer. Right, Oh,

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<v Speaker 6>we're gonna make you a big star. You're gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>to everybody's gonna be looking at you. They're gonna worship you.

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<v Speaker 6>You are gonna worship you. Right, and so Ransom realizes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>my job then is to dissuade Venus from falling. So

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<v Speaker 6>essentially what we have is the whole Eden story on Venus.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a mythological, theological telling of the events of Eden

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<v Speaker 6>on Venus and Weston represents the serpent figure and Ransom

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<v Speaker 6>represents Christ or the angel messenger. Right, So it's like

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<v Speaker 6>the angel and the demon on your shoulder, and they're

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<v Speaker 6>both whispering and arguing and having debates with each other

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<v Speaker 6>and with Venus. So fascinating concepts, right, fascinating idea at

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<v Speaker 6>once theological and also mythological, pulling from all kinds of

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<v Speaker 6>Greek and classic mythology. But I think what's really interesting

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<v Speaker 6>is that a big part of this is debate. I

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<v Speaker 6>did not expect that. You do not expect a novel

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<v Speaker 6>like this to be engaged in debates, but debate is

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<v Speaker 6>a big part of this novel, and not just intellectual

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<v Speaker 6>rational debate, but also physical battle or the BBC asked

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<v Speaker 6>him to come and give apologetics, lectures and defenses of Christianity,

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<v Speaker 6>which would become his famous book Mere Christianity, which I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think is that great. Actually, it's I mean, has

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<v Speaker 6>some prose, but it also has some pretty big deficiencies

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<v Speaker 6>in terms of theology. But it's well known. It's a

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<v Speaker 6>class again. C. S. Lewis does at times have apologetic

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<v Speaker 6>insights right God in the doc he at times he'll

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<v Speaker 6>use even a transcendental argument, believed or not.

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<v Speaker 11>So.

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis is insightful as an apologist, but he's not that

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<v Speaker 6>good of a theologian ultimately. But he is insightful, and

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<v Speaker 6>he's one of the more insightful Western theologians from the

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<v Speaker 6>Orthodox fantas point. So he's in this constant debate with

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<v Speaker 6>the demonically possessed Western, and that's not my interpretation. Like

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<v Speaker 6>Western's froths around and starts having seizures, and like his

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<v Speaker 6>face contorts, he turns into a different type of being

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<v Speaker 6>who has superhuman energy, human intelligence, which Weston describes as

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<v Speaker 6>exhausting to debate with. He says that he realized that

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<v Speaker 6>in debates with Weston, he was debating with a superhuman intelligence,

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<v Speaker 6>and eventually he would become more and more exhausted having

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<v Speaker 6>his debates. And then he starts wondering, and it starts

817
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 6>looking like Venus is going to give in, and he's

818
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:28.920
<v Speaker 6>gonna She's going to sin and listen to Weston and Western.

819
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:33.079
<v Speaker 6>It's amazing because Weston as a character anticipates so many

820
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 6>things and movements in religion and theology at that time.

821
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:44.760
<v Speaker 6>The most obvious character that he seems like to me

822
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.840
<v Speaker 6>is Tayhard to chard In. I mean, did anybody else

823
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:52.920
<v Speaker 6>think of Tayhard when you read this? Because it's like

824
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:55.559
<v Speaker 6>the bertrand Russell. How can we get a more demonically

825
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.400
<v Speaker 6>possessed version of Bertrand Russell? Well, who after who at

826
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:04.400
<v Speaker 6>that time exemplifies this attitude, like literally even saying the

827
01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:09.960
<v Speaker 6>things that Weston says. Tay Hard this shart in. I

828
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:14.280
<v Speaker 6>mean the idea that fundamental reality is all spirit, all

829
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:17.960
<v Speaker 6>of reality is monistically spirit coming to self realization. This

830
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:23.079
<v Speaker 6>is all the crap, the gibberish that Weston says, right,

831
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:32.880
<v Speaker 6>he says this to Venus and to Ransom. Let's see,

832
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.559
<v Speaker 6>I listed several key things, and one of the best

833
01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:40.519
<v Speaker 6>chapters is chapter seven. So seven is key because he

834
01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:46.440
<v Speaker 6>goes into this detailed explanation of his emergent atheistic materialist

835
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.480
<v Speaker 6>or his worldviews evolve from atheistic materialism to an emergent spiritualism.

836
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:59.599
<v Speaker 6>He says basically that evolutionary dynamism and increasing complexity has

837
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:04.440
<v Speaker 6>shown that reality is moving from physicality to pure spirit. This,

838
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:09.639
<v Speaker 6>he says, is basically a transhumanist movement, whereas where spirit

839
01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:15.320
<v Speaker 6>itself or a quote holy spirit he thinks Western thinks,

840
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 6>has moved him and changed him and enlightened him. He says,

841
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:23.079
<v Speaker 6>I realize now that this entity, this spirit, has guided

842
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:28.079
<v Speaker 6>and chosen me to reveal this and to reveal this force.

843
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:31.679
<v Speaker 6>Notice it's an impersonal it's not a personal deity, it's

844
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:34.840
<v Speaker 6>not a personal god. It's a force that is the

845
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:39.039
<v Speaker 6>vital life force moving all of reality, and an evolutionary

846
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:44.599
<v Speaker 6>scheme to a unity of pure spirit. So it's a

847
01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:49.599
<v Speaker 6>gnostic Tahart days Shardan worldview. Literally, I have to think

848
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:55.440
<v Speaker 6>he used Tahart as the model for the demonic theosis.

849
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.079
<v Speaker 6>It's like an inverted theosis. Right, So it's moving from

850
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:05.079
<v Speaker 6>atheist materialism to now Western exemplifying literal signs of demonic possession, gibberish,

851
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:11.079
<v Speaker 6>talking in other languages, doing weird gestures, superhuman energy and intelligence,

852
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:18.000
<v Speaker 6>facial contortion. I mean, it's it's not my analysis. He

853
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:20.960
<v Speaker 6>really he's possessed clearly. In the novel said that right,

854
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.679
<v Speaker 6>Weston explains that his new reality, new view of reality

855
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:29.360
<v Speaker 6>is a metaphysical one in which monism is the truth,

856
01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:34.159
<v Speaker 6>all reality is won. This sequence is all very reminiscent

857
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:39.719
<v Speaker 6>of screw table letters. By the way Western counters excuse me.

858
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:42.400
<v Speaker 6>Ransom counters Weston by saying, well, don't you think that

859
01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:45.440
<v Speaker 6>it's possible that just because something spirit that doesn't mean

860
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:47.559
<v Speaker 6>it's good? And how many New ages?

861
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Right?

862
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:50.920
<v Speaker 6>This also anticipates the New Age movement decades ahead of

863
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:54.920
<v Speaker 6>its time. How many people think the spiritual and spiritual

864
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:59.199
<v Speaker 6>but not religious okay? Well? Or or the people that

865
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.480
<v Speaker 6>do their trips right, acid trips, mushroom trips, d MT.

866
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:06.880
<v Speaker 6>I talk to the angelic. I took to dispute it beings. Well,

867
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:10.440
<v Speaker 6>just because something spirit doesn't mean that it's good. Maybe

868
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 6>it's an evil spirit and it's great. Because Ransom actually

869
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:17.519
<v Speaker 6>raises all these objections, he said, well, just because the

870
01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:20.039
<v Speaker 6>spirit isn't is good, but maybe maybe it's an evil spirit.

871
01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:26.719
<v Speaker 6>And then we have an explanent a literary expert or

872
01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:29.719
<v Speaker 6>excuse me. Ransom comes all the way full circle and

873
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 6>he says, I realized I am Weston. I can keep

874
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:40.559
<v Speaker 6>getting me so western evil demonic Bertrand Russell day Sharten says,

875
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:44.079
<v Speaker 6>I am I am, I am God and the Devil.

876
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:49.079
<v Speaker 6>So he literally goes full Charles Manson in his theology. Right.

877
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:52.559
<v Speaker 6>I mean Charles Manson isn't on the scene yet when

878
01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:55.239
<v Speaker 6>this book is written, but it's like literally predicting that

879
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:56.599
<v Speaker 6>Charles Manson's theology.

880
01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm the God and the Devil.

881
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:05.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm your greatest night man in your hope. Right. So

882
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:09.280
<v Speaker 6>Ransom goes full Manson. Excuse me, Weston goes full Manson,

883
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:15.079
<v Speaker 6>and then we get the literary device explanation eventually, where

884
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:18.319
<v Speaker 6>Lewis explains that what is myth in one world is

885
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:24.319
<v Speaker 6>fact in another world. So again saying the way I'm

886
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.680
<v Speaker 6>doing this is on venus, what we think is myth

887
01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:31.840
<v Speaker 6>is actually the way that the physics and the metaphysics

888
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:36.199
<v Speaker 6>of that world works. So it's not multiverse, it's just

889
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:43.399
<v Speaker 6>other worlds or other planets. So everything is represented as

890
01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:47.680
<v Speaker 6>an edenic temptation. We realize that Weston's real goal now

891
01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:52.039
<v Speaker 6>is to bring death. So he's motivated now to bring

892
01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:55.760
<v Speaker 6>death because death releases spirit from physicality, you see, So

893
01:08:55.840 --> 01:09:00.960
<v Speaker 6>the justification for the bringing of death is his end goal.

894
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:04.399
<v Speaker 6>His ntilos of this tr day shardin worldview of everything

895
01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:10.399
<v Speaker 6>evolving to monistic spirit all is one. They have a

896
01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:14.199
<v Speaker 6>creative evolution debate in chapter nine, which is bizarre when

897
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.239
<v Speaker 6>this gets into I think this is where it starts

898
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:18.000
<v Speaker 6>to get chapter nine and ten, it moves into a

899
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:22.560
<v Speaker 6>problem of evil debate and a predestination free will debate,

900
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:27.439
<v Speaker 6>and the debate does not end with this being resolved.

901
01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:30.680
<v Speaker 6>There is not an answer given. It is basically said

902
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:34.680
<v Speaker 6>to be a form of compatibilism. Again basically the Orthodox view.

903
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:38.039
<v Speaker 6>We don't follow on either side of that dialectic. But

904
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:41.760
<v Speaker 6>what we don't have is a justification for the doing

905
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:44.600
<v Speaker 6>of evil. You see, it does not make sense to

906
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:52.600
<v Speaker 6>do evil. And so in this story we get a mythological,

907
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:57.199
<v Speaker 6>theological version of the Fall or the experience of Eden,

908
01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:01.680
<v Speaker 6>and we even have interesting experiments with playing with time

909
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:05.840
<v Speaker 6>and space. Right, Lewis begins to act like time doesn't

910
01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:08.800
<v Speaker 6>work the same or time doesn't work the same with Venus,

911
01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:11.680
<v Speaker 6>and so Venus herself she doesn't really have a concept

912
01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:15.000
<v Speaker 6>of getting older, like she starts talking about it getting

913
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:16.920
<v Speaker 6>like getting older, but it's within the span of a

914
01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 6>few minutes, right, So for her time doesn't work the

915
01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:22.039
<v Speaker 6>same way. Because again, this is not a fallen world.

916
01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:26.600
<v Speaker 6>And although I'm not advocating that literally, it does help

917
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.399
<v Speaker 6>us to understand what the often asked question of people

918
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:36.239
<v Speaker 6>inquiring at orthodoxy, well, how did animals or predators exist

919
01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:37.000
<v Speaker 6>before the fall?

920
01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Right?

921
01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:40.920
<v Speaker 6>Do we have incisors before the fall? Why would we

922
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.479
<v Speaker 6>need that if we didn't eat meat? Well, the answer

923
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:46.720
<v Speaker 6>is that the way that our bodies and biology exists

924
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:50.199
<v Speaker 6>now is different than the way that it existed before

925
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:53.600
<v Speaker 6>the fall. The mode of all reality is different before

926
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:57.039
<v Speaker 6>the fall, and you can kind of see inklings of this.

927
01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:01.880
<v Speaker 6>This cosmic scope of the fall, a metaphysical alteration in

928
01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:03.479
<v Speaker 6>the universe as a whole.

929
01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:04.600
<v Speaker 5>In c. S.

930
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:10.319
<v Speaker 6>Lewis right because he's making the spiritual warfare that the

931
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:15.199
<v Speaker 6>Christian believes in. He's making it a cosmic story. And

932
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:17.239
<v Speaker 6>it would also makes sense with the notion of the

933
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:22.279
<v Speaker 6>divine council, right, the planetary rulers. That's that's compatible with

934
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:27.199
<v Speaker 6>our theology of the angels, the divine name, celestial hierarchy,

935
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:32.520
<v Speaker 6>Dinaysius and with you know what Heiser talks about from

936
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:40.640
<v Speaker 6>the Psalms in terms of the divine council. Basically, just

937
01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:44.000
<v Speaker 6>to sum up there, Weston gives excuse me, Ransom gives

938
01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:49.159
<v Speaker 6>the Christian classical Christian narrative on providence. He says that

939
01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:51.560
<v Speaker 6>God permits evil because the greater good can be brought

940
01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:54.640
<v Speaker 6>out of it. That's the romans A view. We get

941
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:58.880
<v Speaker 6>this really weird description of Weston. When he gets possessed,

942
01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:03.479
<v Speaker 6>he starts dissecting for and ripping them apart, and I

943
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:07.760
<v Speaker 6>think that's just emblematic of the rapacious, beast like nature

944
01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:13.319
<v Speaker 6>of what he's become now. And Lewis also describes the

945
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:17.520
<v Speaker 6>demonic possession, the demon in him as a kind of imp, right,

946
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:22.840
<v Speaker 6>So it's not it's a very intelligent imp, but the

947
01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:26.159
<v Speaker 6>imp is also ridiculous and stupid at the same time.

948
01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:29.800
<v Speaker 6>I thought that was a fascinating way to describe Satan

949
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:33.039
<v Speaker 6>right as both on the one hand, extremely intelligent but

950
01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:37.520
<v Speaker 6>also at the same time extremely barbaric and brutish and

951
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:42.800
<v Speaker 6>stupid in a weird way. Somehow that works together anyway,

952
01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:45.760
<v Speaker 6>So I think I hit all the main themes that

953
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:51.880
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to get to. There is we're halfway. We're

954
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:54.439
<v Speaker 6>halfway through part two, so we're gonna have to stop

955
01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:59.279
<v Speaker 6>here compatitialism and free will they end up having a

956
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:02.600
<v Speaker 6>oh the next part that it moves to a physical battle, right,

957
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:06.079
<v Speaker 6>So Ransom realizes that he wasn't just brought there to

958
01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:09.840
<v Speaker 6>have a debate with the demon that possesses Western, but

959
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:11.760
<v Speaker 6>he's also now he's gonna have to engage in an

960
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:15.359
<v Speaker 6>actual battle, and he's gonna have to be downloaded with

961
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:19.760
<v Speaker 6>like Matrix style moves like Neo does. I'm not joking,

962
01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:24.439
<v Speaker 6>Like literally, he gets like the Angelic forces basically download

963
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:30.880
<v Speaker 6>into him all of these different like powers like Neo has,

964
01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:33.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, Karate and whatever downloaded to his consciousness. So

965
01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:36.920
<v Speaker 6>the angels give you know, Western the operating program of

966
01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:41.600
<v Speaker 6>karate dot ex jujitsu dot ex. It's fascinating right the

967
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:44.640
<v Speaker 6>way he plays with this and they engage in a

968
01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:52.119
<v Speaker 6>fierce combat on the backs of fish, skipping around on venus.

969
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:56.039
<v Speaker 6>So we'll stop there because that's the middle of part two.

970
01:13:57.039 --> 01:14:01.000
<v Speaker 6>I think I hit everything I wanted to hit. And

971
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:04.319
<v Speaker 6>remember in part three it's going to get really neat

972
01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:08.680
<v Speaker 6>because Part three will deal with the illuminate confirm. Now

973
01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:11.840
<v Speaker 6>we're going to move to Earth and it will become

974
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:19.640
<v Speaker 6>this sort of conspiratorial dystopian story on Earth, and that apparently,

975
01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:21.920
<v Speaker 6>for whatever reason, throws a lot of people for a loop.

976
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:23.359
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to touch on a couple of things here.

977
01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:28.640
<v Speaker 6>Part of what we helps to explain this is the

978
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:31.439
<v Speaker 6>notion of the celestial spheres. If you're not familiar, this

979
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:35.079
<v Speaker 6>is the ancient and medieval cosmological idea. A lot of

980
01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:38.119
<v Speaker 6>the Pythagoreans had this view. A lot of the Platonists

981
01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:45.119
<v Speaker 6>had this view that the planetary rulers that are out there,

982
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:49.960
<v Speaker 6>they go in these circles, and the universe, they would think,

983
01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:53.640
<v Speaker 6>is a kind of musical instrument. View it like a

984
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:58.039
<v Speaker 6>giant musical instrument or symphony that's going in a circular dance.

985
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:02.800
<v Speaker 6>The circular dance is going to be very important for

986
01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:07.840
<v Speaker 6>not just the neoplatonic circular dance, imagery of the cosmos

987
01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:10.199
<v Speaker 6>and of all the life, all the creatures on earth.

988
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:16.279
<v Speaker 6>But it's also sung. It's musical. Keep this in mind.

989
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:21.399
<v Speaker 6>The universe is being sung into existence. Notes are being

990
01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:26.159
<v Speaker 6>played that give reality or the forms their existence out

991
01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:29.880
<v Speaker 6>of potentiality into reality. So it's like, yeah, the word

992
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:33.880
<v Speaker 6>is spoken. The logo speaks reality into being. But it's

993
01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:39.000
<v Speaker 6>not just a monotone Benstein's money speaking of reality into being.

994
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:43.640
<v Speaker 6>It's speaking it in a singing way into reality. Where

995
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:49.159
<v Speaker 6>do we see this Magician's nephew? In Magician's Nephew, how

996
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:53.680
<v Speaker 6>does Aslin create a Narnia? He sings it into existence?

997
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:01.920
<v Speaker 6>And so the orbits of the planets we're thought to

998
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:05.439
<v Speaker 6>have let me find the old ancient view of this

999
01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:12.000
<v Speaker 6>in their spheres and their courses. The idea was that

1000
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:16.520
<v Speaker 6>there were notes associated with them. See I think so

1001
01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:19.319
<v Speaker 6>it comes up in the Timaeus the sphere. Yeah, it

1002
01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:24.600
<v Speaker 6>is the most the best form. I particularly want to

1003
01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:31.119
<v Speaker 6>get to the idea of being notes. If you have

1004
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:41.800
<v Speaker 6>order is it. If you have this book, it comes

1005
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:45.119
<v Speaker 6>up in the quad driven. It comes up in quadrivene

1006
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:46.800
<v Speaker 6>as well. Right, you get towards the end of the

1007
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:51.000
<v Speaker 6>book and it will talk about the notes in the

1008
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:55.880
<v Speaker 6>celestial spheres and the idea here being the universe is

1009
01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:59.119
<v Speaker 6>not just a giant clock, right, And you can see

1010
01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:01.680
<v Speaker 6>like the movement of the planets and their orbit and

1011
01:17:01.720 --> 01:17:03.560
<v Speaker 6>all that. It's kind of like the ticking of a

1012
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:08.359
<v Speaker 6>big clock. Right, But it's not just that. It's also

1013
01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:11.680
<v Speaker 6>a big instrument. So maybe it's both. Maybe it's a

1014
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:15.920
<v Speaker 6>clock instrument. And there were there were some Renaissance people

1015
01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:19.119
<v Speaker 6>who had what is the name of that big somebody

1016
01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:22.920
<v Speaker 6>invented a big goofy machine. And I referenced in the

1017
01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:27.239
<v Speaker 6>David Lynch analysis that we did what was that thing called?

1018
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:29.439
<v Speaker 6>Does an I remember the musical instrument as supposed to

1019
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:38.319
<v Speaker 6>be like a representation of the universe. Let's see Renaissance

1020
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:58.840
<v Speaker 6>neoplatonic musical instrument pipes. Yes, now here is one of

1021
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<v Speaker 6>the papers that I read. I can't believe this came up.

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<v Speaker 6>If you want more into this topic, I read this

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01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:11.880
<v Speaker 6>paper ten years ago when I was researching this neoplatonic

1024
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:15.000
<v Speaker 6>and Phagoryan notions of world harmony and unity and their

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01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:17.680
<v Speaker 6>influence on Renaissance dance theory. He said, why would that

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01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:21.279
<v Speaker 6>be relevant? Because the universe is a big dance. It's

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01:18:21.359 --> 01:18:27.359
<v Speaker 6>the dance of the created order around the sun being

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01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:30.159
<v Speaker 6>representing God or the Logos in the center, and then

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01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:35.720
<v Speaker 6>everything else right having its dance around that or around Earth.

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01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:38.680
<v Speaker 6>It doesn't matter which cosmological model you accept, that's not

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01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.640
<v Speaker 6>the point. But what is the name of that instrument?

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01:18:42.399 --> 01:18:43.920
<v Speaker 6>Do you guys know what I'm talking about? It's like

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01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:56.239
<v Speaker 6>a weird It's in my book, yes, so let me

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01:18:57.119 --> 01:19:03.560
<v Speaker 6>find that. Bear with me. It's worth it because it's

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01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:08.600
<v Speaker 6>in my chapter on season three of Twin Peaks. Yes,

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01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:15.560
<v Speaker 6>here we go, Robert Flood. What do you know? Who

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01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:20.520
<v Speaker 6>did I pull up? Robert Flood? See, I know what

1038
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:22.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about, Like, I'm onto something with this right.

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01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:26.359
<v Speaker 6>So again, if you can get a hold of this paper,

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01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:29.920
<v Speaker 6>not this paper, where did it go? Renaissance dance theory

1041
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:33.880
<v Speaker 6>and neoplatonic world models, that will help you understand what

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01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:46.079
<v Speaker 6>I'm getting at. I don't want Google images Robert Flood's

1043
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:52.079
<v Speaker 6>temple of music. That's what I'm looking for. And remember

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01:19:55.840 --> 01:20:01.000
<v Speaker 6>in Lewis's in it Prince Caspian. Caspian's two is Flood?

1045
01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:17.760
<v Speaker 6>Isn't that right? Am I right? Is it Caspians tutor?

1046
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:26.279
<v Speaker 6>Or is it am I think? Am I mixing it

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01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:27.960
<v Speaker 6>up with the boy and his Horse? I get the

1048
01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:30.760
<v Speaker 6>two stories mixed up sometimes because it's been several years

1049
01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:33.159
<v Speaker 6>since I read the Narnia. Do you guys remember can

1050
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:40.199
<v Speaker 6>somebody in the chat remind me if is it tutor?

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01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:45.119
<v Speaker 6>That's not for sure? It had to be doctor Cornelius

1052
01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:48.119
<v Speaker 6>that's it. Maybe it's not Flood Or is it Flood

1053
01:20:48.520 --> 01:21:03.159
<v Speaker 6>doctor Cornelius? Who is doctor Cornelius? That's it? What's his

1054
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:07.720
<v Speaker 6>last name? Maybe I'm wrong and it's not Flood, it's Agrippa.

1055
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:18.159
<v Speaker 6>Does it say Cornelius is last name at any point?

1056
01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:30.239
<v Speaker 6>Because if it's not, maybe he may have been referencing

1057
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:38.640
<v Speaker 6>Cornelius Agrippa. I'm not gonna read all that, okay. Whether

1058
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:41.920
<v Speaker 6>it's Robert Flood or Cornelius Agrippa doesn't really matter because

1059
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:46.800
<v Speaker 6>it still makes the same point about Renaissance majish type stuff.

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01:21:48.039 --> 01:21:51.000
<v Speaker 6>Temple of Music by Robert Flood as a mnemonic device.

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01:21:52.880 --> 01:22:03.479
<v Speaker 6>So it's this thing here, and you'll notice up there. Thus,

1062
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:06.680
<v Speaker 6>what's supposed to be like the celestial spheres. I don't

1063
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:09.880
<v Speaker 6>know what's all going down what kind of party is

1064
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:11.600
<v Speaker 6>going on down there at the bottom of this thing.

1065
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:22.800
<v Speaker 6>But I just want a basic rundown. I don't need

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01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:33.199
<v Speaker 6>fifty academic papers. So I guess he had had a

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01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:50.279
<v Speaker 6>dream about this or something. Yeah, we know, music is

1068
01:22:50.800 --> 01:23:09.640
<v Speaker 6>number of mysticism, I know, I know. Let's see what

1069
01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:18.119
<v Speaker 6>this guy says. Okay, so Flood had an interest in Yeah, macrocosm, macrocosm,

1070
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:20.439
<v Speaker 6>all the stuff that you know. So here's this big thing.

1071
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:23.439
<v Speaker 6>Look at this wild thing. And apparently he had a

1072
01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:27.840
<v Speaker 6>dream about this. Right, So this I'm assuming it's like

1073
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:32.239
<v Speaker 6>celestial spheres and whatnot. The rest of this have no

1074
01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:34.520
<v Speaker 6>idea what this is. I mean, it's obviously musical notes

1075
01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:40.199
<v Speaker 6>and instruments, but I mean, he got like super crazy

1076
01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:46.760
<v Speaker 6>with this thing. The Temple attempts to synthesize his musical theory,

1077
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:49.760
<v Speaker 6>focusing on the use of consonants and dissonance in rhythmic proportions.

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01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:52.399
<v Speaker 6>Flood explained that if you examine keenly the parts of

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01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:54.279
<v Speaker 6>the temple, you will have a share in its mysteries.

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01:23:55.119 --> 01:23:58.720
<v Speaker 6>An extremely experienced master in this knowledge, so it's a

1081
01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:03.359
<v Speaker 6>mnemonic device for music music theory. The symbols are all

1082
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:10.720
<v Speaker 6>allegories from the temple, referencing Apollo or Pythagoras, and the

1083
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:13.000
<v Speaker 6>images are also supposed to have a relationship to the

1084
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:15.399
<v Speaker 6>memory palace. I'm sure you know what a memory palace is.

1085
01:24:17.279 --> 01:24:21.640
<v Speaker 6>But it's supposed to also relate to the neoplatonic idea

1086
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:25.119
<v Speaker 6>that the universe is basically sung into existence. But anyway,

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01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:27.079
<v Speaker 6>I can't find anything on that right now, but that

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01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:31.399
<v Speaker 6>Renaissance dance theory paper that I mentioned does talk about it.

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<v Speaker 6>So remember too, if you guys want to get deeper

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<v Speaker 6>into this kind of stuff, you need a good diet.

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<v Speaker 6>I know that sounds a little weird, but how are

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<v Speaker 6>you going to do that if your second brain? Did

1093
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<v Speaker 6>that you need. Let's head on over to the super chats. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>here's a Amanda says. For ten dollars, can you recommend

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<v Speaker 6>a church father that discusses why reality is fundamentally triadic

1134
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<v Speaker 6>rather than monistic or diaddic. Yeah. So this is covered

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<v Speaker 6>in Vladimir Lawski's book Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church.

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<v Speaker 6>In the chapter on the Trinity, he goes into restating

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<v Speaker 6>the arguments from Maximus and Gregory, Nazi a Zeus, Gregory,

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<v Speaker 6>Andissa as to why this is the case. It's covered

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01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:50.359
<v Speaker 6>in different places in Saint Maximus, but specifically in a

1140
01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:54.479
<v Speaker 6>couple of the Questions and Doubts. So if you read

1141
01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:58.119
<v Speaker 6>Questions of Doubts, you'll see a couple instances there. I

1142
01:27:58.159 --> 01:27:59.720
<v Speaker 6>don't remember which one they are because I don't have

1143
01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:02.079
<v Speaker 6>the book confront of me, but it comes up in

1144
01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:07.039
<v Speaker 6>the AMBIGUITA. The first Ambiguit deals with this. But the

1145
01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:14.079
<v Speaker 6>easiest readable explanation isn't in Maximus. It's just in Lasky's

1146
01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:17.359
<v Speaker 6>summary of this in the chapter on the Trinity and

1147
01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:21.520
<v Speaker 6>Mystical Theology the Eastern Church. But he's just pulling it

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01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:33.439
<v Speaker 6>from Maximus and Gregory nazianzas gone learn learn them? Can

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01:28:33.479 --> 01:28:36.000
<v Speaker 6>you do it? Jordan Peters's impression talking about Funko.

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01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:40.760
<v Speaker 12>Pops, Well, you know, my father was always into funco pops,

1151
01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:45.359
<v Speaker 12>and you know it's something that deep dome if you,

1152
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:48.920
<v Speaker 12>if you, if you think about it, deep don't in

1153
01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:52.720
<v Speaker 12>your soul. We're all one kind of funkl pup. Perhaps

1154
01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:54.880
<v Speaker 12>Charles Manson's another kind of funk pup.

1155
01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:56.039
<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:58.560
<v Speaker 12>I don't know, No, I don't know.

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01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:01.479
<v Speaker 6>But it could be that was really dumb. I know

1158
01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:06.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm tired, so my mind is not old here today

1159
01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:12.680
<v Speaker 6>it's mush. I got up early for an interview, which

1160
01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:15.920
<v Speaker 6>I was happy to do, but man, it was early,

1161
01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:18.640
<v Speaker 6>and then I had to drink coffee to do the

1162
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:21.399
<v Speaker 6>interview because it was too early. I'm not a morning person.

1163
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:24.840
<v Speaker 6>I will never be a morning person. And then I

1164
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:29.000
<v Speaker 6>couldn't go to sleep. So my mind is mush. So

1165
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:34.399
<v Speaker 6>nobody should do morning interviews. But you don't want to

1166
01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:40.039
<v Speaker 6>say no, no, Old or Apologist sixty dollars fat super

1167
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:43.000
<v Speaker 6>chat making it all worth it, so much, so much

1168
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<v Speaker 6>love for you. Look at sixty love points, guys, you

1169
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<v Speaker 6>want to show your love super chatty baby, and I felt, Look,

1170
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<v Speaker 6>I did try to sleep. So my hair is all

1171
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:57.359
<v Speaker 6>screwed up. It's got like a wispy twirl, which makes

1172
01:29:57.399 --> 01:30:02.800
<v Speaker 6>me look like a freaking weirdo dude, so bent once again,

1173
01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:05.239
<v Speaker 6>Ben Swann beat me on hair this week. But hey,

1174
01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:09.399
<v Speaker 6>maybe next week I'll come back with with hair that's

1175
01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:13.399
<v Speaker 6>to die for. An old or Apologist says, this is

1176
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:16.479
<v Speaker 6>going to be good. I've been waiting for this one. Yes,

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01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:19.319
<v Speaker 6>this was a long one in the mix, right, We've

1178
01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:23.439
<v Speaker 6>been waiting a long time to do this. Hopefully, if

1179
01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:26.399
<v Speaker 6>we get a good enough feedback. If I get enough

1180
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:30.479
<v Speaker 6>super chats love points, I'll do more. I mean, I

1181
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:33.359
<v Speaker 6>got stacks of lit, dude, I could. I can ramble

1182
01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:35.960
<v Speaker 6>on about lit just as much as long as we

1183
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:41.000
<v Speaker 6>can about movies, but nobody reads books anymore. But now

1184
01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:44.680
<v Speaker 6>that movies are turning to pure garbage, maybe people will

1185
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:48.359
<v Speaker 6>start reading books again. I don't know, we'll see, but

1186
01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:51.239
<v Speaker 6>I mean we could do. I was pulling out some

1187
01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:55.279
<v Speaker 6>other books that remind that I was reminded of reading

1188
01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:02.359
<v Speaker 6>the Space Trilogy, and there's obvious ones, right. I mean,

1189
01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:06.079
<v Speaker 6>it's a lot like nineteen eighty four in ways, except again,

1190
01:31:07.239 --> 01:31:10.000
<v Speaker 6>Orwell's book just leaves you feeling hopeless, right, I mean,

1191
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:13.680
<v Speaker 6>there's nothing Christian about Orwell's book, even though it's amazingly

1192
01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:19.159
<v Speaker 6>prophetic and accurate. Foundation. I mean, Foundation is interesting and

1193
01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:21.520
<v Speaker 6>predictive in certain ways. But I mean this is just

1194
01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:25.159
<v Speaker 6>like pure sullyance, Like this is like the soyboy sci fi. Right,

1195
01:31:26.960 --> 01:31:30.239
<v Speaker 6>I've not watched the TV show Foundation. I kind of

1196
01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:36.640
<v Speaker 6>enjoyed this book. I didn't enjoy Foundation enough to keep

1197
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:39.119
<v Speaker 6>reading the Foundation series, so it was kind of boring

1198
01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:43.039
<v Speaker 6>to me, believe it or not, I don't know. I

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01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:44.760
<v Speaker 6>know there's a lot of people who would hate this,

1200
01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:48.039
<v Speaker 6>but Ann Rand actually has a decent sci fi story.

1201
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:53.520
<v Speaker 6>Dystobea story. Anthem is a good sci fi story. If

1202
01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:56.439
<v Speaker 6>you've not read Anthem, I recommend it's pretty good. Now, yeah,

1203
01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:00.319
<v Speaker 6>it's going to be tainted with the goofy kind of

1204
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:06.359
<v Speaker 6>libertarian ethos stuff. I'm not saying I like everything about

1205
01:32:06.439 --> 01:32:08.720
<v Speaker 6>I don't like everything about and these stories they have

1206
01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:14.199
<v Speaker 6>different reasons why they're good. But Anthem is. I thought

1207
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:17.239
<v Speaker 6>it was a pretty good dystopia story. And I'm not

1208
01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:21.640
<v Speaker 6>the hugest, biggest an Ran fan, but but Anthem is

1209
01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:25.079
<v Speaker 6>pretty good. But you can make that decision if you

1210
01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:28.039
<v Speaker 6>want Brave New World. Everybody knows about Brave New World.

1211
01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:30.840
<v Speaker 6>I mean, just think about the contrast of these various dystopias.

1212
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:37.279
<v Speaker 6>I mean, again, another hopeless story, right, Huxley's dystopia is

1213
01:32:37.319 --> 01:32:42.560
<v Speaker 6>completely hopeless, nineteen eighty four a completely hopeless. Ann Rand's

1214
01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:46.560
<v Speaker 6>dystopia is not hopeless. But it's like, oh, the hope

1215
01:32:46.680 --> 01:32:50.319
<v Speaker 6>is the power of reason? Come on, dude, really, I

1216
01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:53.880
<v Speaker 6>mean that's the very thing that Weston represents right as

1217
01:32:53.960 --> 01:32:56.880
<v Speaker 6>a mov's. I mean, it's not really a dystopia. But

1218
01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:00.840
<v Speaker 6>other than the predictive elements. I don't really see much

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<v Speaker 6>value and foundation, right.

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<v Speaker 11>So.

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<v Speaker 6>It's unique, right, Christian dystopia literature not a genre that

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<v Speaker 6>really took off. But thank you so much, Noldor. I

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<v Speaker 6>appreciate the big fat super chet DP ten dollars. Thank

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<v Speaker 6>you for helping me in my journey to becoming orthodox.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey many years awesome. Glad to hear that shout out

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<v Speaker 6>to DP much appreciate that super chat dog. Frankie D

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<v Speaker 6>ten dollars. I'm gonna miss most of this show in

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<v Speaker 6>airplane mode. He's probably not even on a plane. He

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<v Speaker 6>just wanted to say, I am intentionally putting my phone

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<v Speaker 6>into airplane mode to miss your show. I'm just joking.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>The wibble wobble, the wibi flob, the wibble flebbies were

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<v Speaker 6>pretty funny. Thank you. I've made fun of stupid British

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01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:01.079
<v Speaker 6>slang in terminology for a long time. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>coast and milk that one as much as we can.

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<v Speaker 6>Frankie D. Five dollars. Is interesting that the esoteristis describe

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<v Speaker 6>the spiritual realm, but they are aligned with evil, right,

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<v Speaker 6>But a lot of them don't know that, right. They

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01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.960
<v Speaker 6>don't they they're deluded, so they many of them think

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<v Speaker 6>that they're doing good or they justified or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 6>that's the power of delusion, is that we can actually believe.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you know that, well, I'm doing good, I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>doing evil? And you know you might not even know

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<v Speaker 6>that you're that evil. Right, that's the power of delusions.

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<v Speaker 6>I've encountered various mythologies and noticed that there's a common theme.

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<v Speaker 6>They seem to be the story of the cosmos from

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<v Speaker 6>the perspective of the fallen Yes, that is correct. I

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<v Speaker 6>think typically Gnostic stories, the Gnostic mythology and ethos, which

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01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:48.800
<v Speaker 6>people who follow my channel, my books, we've covered this

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<v Speaker 6>many many times for countless sign for years. Hollywood typically

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01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:59.520
<v Speaker 6>represents the Gnostic story, right, the bumbling goofy idiotic creator

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01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:04.399
<v Speaker 6>did who's removed and useless to the creation. There's the

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01:35:04.520 --> 01:35:09.399
<v Speaker 6>rebellious hero, anarchic figure, the Lucifer character who's the hero

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<v Speaker 6>of the Savior who fights against the bumbling creator, Roy

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01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:19.359
<v Speaker 6>Batty Tyrrell. Right, how often do we see that Gnostic

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<v Speaker 6>version of the story all the time? And so I

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<v Speaker 6>think you're totally right, Frankie d. And it's a point

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<v Speaker 6>that I've made for at least ten to fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 6>Son of Tia, my ten dollars? Can you recommend fantasy?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm not a big fantasy person. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>let's be honest, most of this fantasy crap is like

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<v Speaker 6>fake and gray, totally right. I mean, who's that one

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<v Speaker 6>woman that was remember the woman connected to the serial

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<v Speaker 6>killers the Mists of Avalon woman and her daughter. Her

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<v Speaker 6>daughter became a Christian and said, that's all a bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of pedos. So I mean there are some good fantasies

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<v Speaker 6>novels and writers, I guess, but good fantasy writers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I think Philip K. Dick is great in various ways,

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<v Speaker 6>but he's very gnostic in his cosmology for sure. I

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<v Speaker 6>do intend, by the way, to do this same type

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<v Speaker 6>of analysis that we're doing right here. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 6>do that with Philip K. Dick's stories too, So, but

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<v Speaker 6>that's not fantasy fantasy fantasy. I mean, I can remember

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<v Speaker 6>fantasy novels that I liked when I was a teenager,

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<v Speaker 6>and in ways they were interesting and fun. But most

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<v Speaker 6>fantasy stories typically tend to be seeded with pagan ideas

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<v Speaker 6>and really stupid stuff like remember I remember just immersing

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<v Speaker 6>myself in Terry Brooks and the sort of in that

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<v Speaker 6>whole series, And although I enjoyed it, I felt like

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<v Speaker 6>this is really just a copy of Tolkien. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>it's like all the fantasy writers just sort of copying

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<v Speaker 6>Tolkien in various ways. And then I remember trying to

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<v Speaker 6>read Maryan Zimmer Bradley and I was just like, this

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<v Speaker 6>is terrible. This is just a bunch of feminist witch crap,

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<v Speaker 6>which crap, not just witchcraft, but which crap. So, I mean, no,

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<v Speaker 6>most fantasy is just garbage. Dude, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 6>to tell you. I'm sorry. I'm sure there's plenty of

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<v Speaker 6>good Christian fantasy writers out there. I just don't know

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<v Speaker 6>who they are, so I can't. I mean, other than

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<v Speaker 6>like Tolkien and Lewis, I just, off the top of

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<v Speaker 6>my head, just don't know. Frankie D five dollars. The

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<v Speaker 6>story of Zeus borrows from the overthrowing of the Father

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<v Speaker 6>and becoming the new God. Yes, it's correct. The theme

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<v Speaker 6>of imparting knowledge to humans, yeah Prometheus. Yeah. You then

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<v Speaker 6>say Prometheus exactly is portrayed as the one who saves

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<v Speaker 6>and illuminates humans. Yes, exactly. These are these are all Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>clearly you know Lucifer Satan derivations, thoughts of a pilgrim.

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<v Speaker 6>Five dollars. Thank you for doing this. The story needs

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<v Speaker 6>more coverage. Yes, this is overlooked. I guess because it's Christian.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean the themes are more Christian than Narnia. That

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<v Speaker 6>would be my guess as to why many people have

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<v Speaker 6>not been told about the Space trilogy, or it's it's overlooked,

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<v Speaker 6>or Narnia is just so popular that people just forget

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<v Speaker 6>about it. But it is good, it's it is different.

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<v Speaker 6>I will say it's it's not what I expected. I

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<v Speaker 6>thought it would be like Narnia in Space, and it's not.

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<v Speaker 6>That it's more serious and more sophisticated. Which is not

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<v Speaker 6>to say that I dislike Narnia. I like the I

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<v Speaker 6>like it a lot, but it's it's adult is not

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<v Speaker 6>the right word. It's just more sophisticated. Gay lord folk

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<v Speaker 6>or one dollar yoh. Was the Orthodox position of foreign

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<v Speaker 6>knowledge and predestination that they are compatible. So how that

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<v Speaker 6>is we don't know, but is revealed to be so.

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<v Speaker 6>The Calvinist position is gnostic. Thus, I am curious what

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<v Speaker 6>the Eastern view of those passages is well, we affirm

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<v Speaker 6>both things right. Scripture says, on the one hand, God

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<v Speaker 6>is sovereign, his foreign knowledge and providence extends to everything,

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<v Speaker 6>and yet humans do have free will. And for Orthodox

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<v Speaker 6>we just simply accept that there is a compatible position there.

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<v Speaker 6>Somehow they work together. How we don't know. We don't

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<v Speaker 6>know the mechanics of that, because it just simply is

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<v Speaker 6>beyond human comprehension. And that actually comes up in I

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<v Speaker 6>think what chapter nine or ten of Peril Undra and

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<v Speaker 6>Seious Lewis basically gives the Orthodox view balance tis wonderful stream.

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<v Speaker 6>I went to a Funko pop free bookstore. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>why did you even go in there? Oh, a Funko

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<v Speaker 6>pop free bookstore. I thought you meant like you were

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<v Speaker 6>getting them free. Like, dude, if your bookstore is giving

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<v Speaker 6>out Funko pops free, it's over. But you're saying that

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<v Speaker 6>this book store had no Funko pops. Hey, thank god

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<v Speaker 6>for that. I found David Rockfeller's memoirs. Yes, do you

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<v Speaker 6>have videos dedicated to this book? Two of the one

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<v Speaker 6>of the Alex fourth Hours was dedicated to that book.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't have one on my YouTube channel that I

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<v Speaker 6>can recall. Dedicated to that book. No, but there is

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<v Speaker 6>one of the hours of the fourth Hour of AJ

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<v Speaker 6>that is the memoirs, or largely pulls from them. Frankie

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<v Speaker 6>d five dollars. This sounds a lot like the Lord

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<v Speaker 6>Valdemort Mythos when he was on Joe Rogan. It kind

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<v Speaker 6>of is. Yeah, I mean, I have no idea if

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<v Speaker 6>Alex has read Swiss Space Trilogy. He could have, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know, but now that you mention it, it does

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<v Speaker 6>kind of sound like that. Yeah. Interesting, the force of

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<v Speaker 6>good and evil God moving in a certain direction. I

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<v Speaker 6>can't remember all of it. Yeah, I don't remember all

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<v Speaker 6>of it either. I listened to all of that and

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<v Speaker 6>the second one, so I know we did a boiler

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<v Speaker 6>room I think around the time when that happened, because

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<v Speaker 6>it was, you know, just a huge podcast. It's like

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<v Speaker 6>the biggest podcast of the time most views. And well

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<v Speaker 6>I should do like a I should just do like

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<v Speaker 6>a five hour rock fin live stream of that whole podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I see the connection there. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 6>about that, but I think you're right there. Maybe Alex

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<v Speaker 6>has read parlonger Panel Coasts three dollars on the Angelic

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<v Speaker 6>Notes Byzantine Chant is inherited by the ancient Greek music

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<v Speaker 6>musical system for first formulator by Pythagoras. Yes, exactly, Thank

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<v Speaker 6>you so much, Cosmos Panos Cosmotos, Pano costros right, who directed?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you the director of Mandy and I'm joking? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>So Pano is backing up that Byzantine chant has the

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<v Speaker 6>same derivation of the Pythagorean model of the notes connected

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<v Speaker 6>to the celestial spheres. John Damascus recast this into our

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<v Speaker 6>eight tone system. Wow, I did not know that, and

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<v Speaker 6>it clostically closely mimics what's supposed to be the angelic chorus. Wow, awesome.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much, Pano, because I was actually floundering

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<v Speaker 6>there and I couldn't find what I was looking for

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<v Speaker 6>in terms of the the celestial spheres. That helps me

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<v Speaker 6>a lot there, Thank you so much. And then Pino

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<v Speaker 6>says again for two dollars, the eight tiered loopable system

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<v Speaker 6>is reflected mathematically in harmonic series. In the harmonic series,

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<v Speaker 6>this is really freaking cool. Didn't Plato describe the forms

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<v Speaker 6>like this too? Yeah, so the Tamayi speaks that way,

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<v Speaker 6>So yes, Rossi, Ross Roscoe, Pico train. By the way,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a good Roscoe, wasn't it. What is your take

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<v Speaker 6>on Gurjev. I think he's just a kind of a perennialist,

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<v Speaker 6>a new ag guy who sort of cobbled together a

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<v Speaker 6>bunch of different things in a kind of hodgepodge. So

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<v Speaker 6>I don't have I'm not too I'm not into Gurjeaf.

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<v Speaker 6>Is he not a legitimate spiritual source. I think that

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<v Speaker 6>any of the perennialists, any of those people have insights.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I've got on my bookshelf, I've got shoe

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<v Speaker 6>on Gerdieff, and I don't have Gurgeff, excuse me, shoe

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<v Speaker 6>on gn On Evil.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got more perennials up there, so Charles Upton, they're insightful,

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't think any of those perennials people really

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<v Speaker 6>gets the main point, which is Christ. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 6>the that's the key thing for us, right, So I

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<v Speaker 6>mean you can have all kinds of insights from people

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<v Speaker 6>like that, just like you can have all kinds of

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<v Speaker 6>insights in neo platonists, But if they're missing the key thing,

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<v Speaker 6>which is Christ, then it's kind of like you're you're

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<v Speaker 6>missing the point, right. But thank you for that question,

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<v Speaker 6>Ruscoe Pico train. All right, Part two. Remember, if you

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01:44:56.720 --> 01:44:58.560
<v Speaker 6>want to see part two, head on over to Jason

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<v Speaker 6>Allisis and you can subscribe there. It will not be

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<v Speaker 6>up tonight. It will be a couple of days. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>still working through finishing the Space trilogy, and then i'll

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<v Speaker 6>have the final talk where we'll cover the rest of Parlandra,

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<v Speaker 6>and then we'll get into what I think is really fascinating,

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<v Speaker 6>that hideous strength, the one that everybody says, what is

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01:45:19.880 --> 01:45:23.159
<v Speaker 6>this about? It's obvious what it's about. And if you

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01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:26.000
<v Speaker 6>know about you know, the conspiracy element of what's really

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01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:27.359
<v Speaker 6>going on in the world, If you know about my

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01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:31.119
<v Speaker 6>enthusianism and so forth, then it's obvious what the third

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<v Speaker 6>one is about.

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<v Speaker 10>And C. S.

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<v Speaker 6>Lewis, I think is clearly telling us that. So look

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<v Speaker 6>for that in the next week. It may take me

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<v Speaker 6>a full week to do the part two. Don't message me,

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<v Speaker 6>email me win's part two. Where's Part two? Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>telling you right now, it's gonna be a while. Every

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<v Speaker 6>time I do this winds it up. I'll get a

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<v Speaker 6>message tonight it's Part two up. Don't message me about

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01:45:54.319 --> 01:45:59.560
<v Speaker 6>part two. It will come, I promise you. Diet so

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<v Speaker 6>to five dollars. I'm just finishing the excellent on the

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<v Speaker 6>Human Condition by Saint Basil. Would you do a stream

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<v Speaker 6>on this? You know, I don't think i've read that.

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<v Speaker 6>We did a live stream two years ago on most

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<v Speaker 6>of Basil's stuff, where I did on the Holy Spirit,

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<v Speaker 6>I did against Unomius by Basil. We did all of

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<v Speaker 6>the key letters, or most of the key letters, but

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<v Speaker 6>that's just what's in the shaft set, except well, against

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<v Speaker 6>Unomius is not in the chaft set. That's the c

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<v Speaker 6>UA press. So but now, I don't think I've actually

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<v Speaker 6>read that, unless it's like homilies or it's actually selections

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<v Speaker 6>of the letters. So if it's its own work, I've

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<v Speaker 6>not read it, but it would be a good idea.

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't been back visited to Saint Basil since what

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<v Speaker 6>like two summers ago, so maybe it would be a

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<v Speaker 6>good idea to revisit Saint Basil. All right, thank you

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<v Speaker 6>guys so much. Everybody. I hope you enjoyed this. Please

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<v Speaker 6>hit like and share a comment below, tell me what

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<v Speaker 6>you think, tell me what I missed, And again I

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<v Speaker 6>did yes, because there will be fifty nerds coming on

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<v Speaker 6>here telling me that I got Flood wrong. It's Agrippa.

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<v Speaker 6>Excuse me, Doctor Cornelius is probably Cornelius Agrippa. It's not

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<v Speaker 6>Robert Flood. But Robert Flood is the guy who came

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<v Speaker 6>up with the universe being a musical instrument thing, musical

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<v Speaker 6>temple or whatever, and asline sings creation into existence. So

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not off on that. That's the Renaissance Platonic Pythagorean

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<v Speaker 6>theory that Pina was talking about. So I was basically right,

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<v Speaker 6>but sometimes sometimes I get details wrong. Guys, okay, and

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<v Speaker 6>guess what everybody does. You don't have to correct me.

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<v Speaker 6>In fifty comments.

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<v Speaker 2>We got an exposed.

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<v Speaker 6>He has no clue what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>He got something wrong, got him. We got