Speaker 1: Hi, This is Joan Bornstein from PVD, Massachusetts and I
Speaker 1: play at Thompson Golf.
Speaker 2: Club in North Riding, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: This is Golf Smarter number nine hundred and eighty seven.
Speaker 2: All hypnosis is the form of self hypnosis. Think of
Speaker 2: me as your tour guide. If you're driving up in
Speaker 2: the mountains and you're looking for this lake and I
Speaker 2: help you get there. Then once you get to the lake,
Speaker 2: you're there, you're enjoying it, you're loving life, and I'm
Speaker 2: no longer important. I'm just the one to help you
Speaker 2: get there. So that's what a hypnotist does. So all
Speaker 2: forms of hypnosis are self hypnosis because it takes place
Speaker 2: in your own subconscious mind. In fact, I made a
Speaker 2: video a hypnosis one on one for golfers. It's on YouTube.
Speaker 2: The biggest myth about hypnosis is that you have to
Speaker 2: be easily swayed, gullible, weak witted, dim witted, not the
Speaker 2: sharpest crayon in the box. And people are proud to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't be hypnotized. Once you understand hypnosis is you'll
Speaker 2: understand it's something that anyone could do. It's just a
Speaker 2: matter of choice. Now. The other myth is that once
Speaker 2: you're in the hypnotized statement, let's just call it trance.
Speaker 2: Once you're in trance, that you're under the power of
Speaker 2: the hypnotist.
Speaker 1: Here's one you've never considered. How self hypnosis can transform
Speaker 1: golf performance With Ken Hollawa. This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories,
Speaker 1: tips and insights from great golf minds to help you
Speaker 1: lower your score and raise your golf IQ. Here's your host,
Speaker 1: Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter podcast. Ken.
Speaker 2: Hey, Thanks Fred, I'm delighted to be here.
Speaker 1: It's good to have you on the show. This is
Speaker 1: going to be a fascinating topic because talking about flow
Speaker 1: state the mental game something that we do on a
Speaker 1: very regular basis. We just had a long conversation last
Speaker 1: episode on the flow state and getting there staying there.
Speaker 1: But this is an approach that has not been made well.
Speaker 1: I've not been aware of taking an approach like this
Speaker 1: to get to the flow state, to get your mental
Speaker 1: game really tuned in. And that's with self hypnosis. Now,
Speaker 1: we have had someone on before about hypnosis self hypnosis,
Speaker 1: but the person wasn't a golfer.
Speaker 2: Right now, this is a.
Speaker 1: Real different Oh okay, thank you, But this is a
Speaker 1: real different approach because you are a golfer and you're
Speaker 1: trying to get golfers to learn how to use self
Speaker 1: hypnosis to get themselves into a much better mental state
Speaker 1: for their game.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Well, that was really great. Thanks so much, Ken.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great show. Yeah, see you next time. Hey, please,
Speaker 2: before we get started, I want to let you know
Speaker 2: we have a mutual friend.
Speaker 1: Oh is that right.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm referring to Martin Chuck. I met Martin over
Speaker 2: ten years ago and I've been following his work ever since,
Speaker 2: and he's my favorite golf coach in the whole world.
Speaker 2: And he's part of the reason why I moved to
Speaker 2: Phoenix so I could be closer. Yeah, out to his
Speaker 2: golf academy. It's a tour stiker golf academy and it's
Speaker 2: like being a kid at Disneyland out there. It's so cool.
Speaker 2: He is amazing.
Speaker 1: So let's get back to the Thank you very much
Speaker 1: for that. Go back to the self hypnosis to improve
Speaker 1: the life.
Speaker 2: Of a govement. Okay, okay, go Well, you know I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you how you got the focus to
Speaker 2: do the mental game of golf and my understanding and
Speaker 2: this is from my own personal experience is people know,
Speaker 2: they sensed the idea that the mental game of golf
Speaker 2: is important, but they don't necessarily know why it's important.
Speaker 2: And even if they did, they don't know how to
Speaker 2: improve at it, how to get better at it, or
Speaker 2: how much it affects your golf performance. So, and I
Speaker 2: was one of them, I don't know. They say, oh,
Speaker 2: the most important, you know, Bobby Jones, right the six
Speaker 2: inches between your ears. So I didn't realize how important
Speaker 2: the mental game was to golf. But what I discovered,
Speaker 2: quite by accident, is that you could use hypnosis to
Speaker 2: incorporate all the principles of the mental game and plant
Speaker 2: them directly into the subconscious mind where most of us
Speaker 2: live and when we're playing golf. And to me, that
Speaker 2: was a revelation. I knew it was powerful, and I
Speaker 2: knew it was it was profound, and I knew that
Speaker 2: was going to create a program just for golfers that
Speaker 2: just focuses on golf, and that that's why we're here today.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about that. How How do where
Speaker 1: do we get started if we want to use so well, no,
Speaker 1: let's not get started. Let's talk about the advantages of
Speaker 1: why we want to use self hypnosis.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, why don't you give me a couple because
Speaker 2: I know my material. But just just to make this interactive,
Speaker 2: what do you think are like the top two or
Speaker 2: three reasons that people struggle with their mental game?
Speaker 1: Uh frustration? Okay, yeah, because things not going away you
Speaker 1: want them to? Sure, which is golf? Do you want
Speaker 1: to keep going there? I mean, like, I think that's
Speaker 1: really that I personally, that's what happens with me when
Speaker 1: I start losing my game is because it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple bad shots, you know, sometimes you know, a
Speaker 1: three putt will will get me there, but short game
Speaker 1: stuff will not getting the results that I'm anticipating.
Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha. I wait for like being two feet off
Speaker 2: the grain and waste a whole shot. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So I know what that frustration feels like. And that's
Speaker 2: part of the reason why I created the program. So
Speaker 2: everything that everything about golf that we struggle with and
Speaker 2: we get frustrated about and everything. I'm the poster boy
Speaker 2: for all of that. I am because I went through
Speaker 2: it myself. For the longest time. It was ridiculous. Now
Speaker 2: now that I'm a hypnosis program. I took all the
Speaker 2: things about the mental game of golf. For example, getting
Speaker 2: emotionally upset and losing your cool that would be one
Speaker 2: of them. Choking under pressure would be one. Losing your focus,
Speaker 2: giving up on your preshot routine that helps you stay
Speaker 2: grounded and consistent, all the various kinds of things, all
Speaker 2: the aspects of the mental game that help you achieve
Speaker 2: peak performance. The hypnosis program goes right directly into the
Speaker 2: subconscious mind and it gives you cues like saying a
Speaker 2: keyword or having a key technique or taking a cleansing
Speaker 2: breath and so forth that helps you recenter yourself and
Speaker 2: get your game back on track. And it starts with
Speaker 2: getting your head straight. Okay. So I hope that answers
Speaker 2: your question, because you know, like James Siegmund says, if
Speaker 2: you hit a bad shot, then you don't own it,
Speaker 2: you objectify it and go you turn into a teaching
Speaker 2: moment and you say, if I could do that shot
Speaker 2: over again, how would I do it differently? And that
Speaker 2: turns it into a learning opportunity, And that's how champions
Speaker 2: how their mind works. So I like to help golfers
Speaker 2: make the most of every moment and every opportunity that
Speaker 2: they have on the golf course to play golf up
Speaker 2: to their best of their ability and to reach their
Speaker 2: full potential and enjoy being in the moment and playing
Speaker 2: excellent golf, because that's why we're all there, you know,
Speaker 2: we want to hit the shot that keeps us coming back. Right.
Speaker 2: And when when I discovered the hypnosis was was so
Speaker 2: powerful to help people on every single one of these points.
Speaker 2: That's what helped me create my program and make a
Speaker 2: career out of this. Not to mention, I've hypnotized thousands
Speaker 2: of people all over.
Speaker 1: The country on stage, right, I mean, this is entertainment.
Speaker 1: You do that as well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, And I have to admit, unlike doctor Siegel,
Speaker 2: I never made anyone click like a chicken. He had
Speaker 2: mentioned that, you know, that's what a stage hypnotist do,
Speaker 2: and I never did. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But did you get people to growl like Tiger? No?
Speaker 2: I never.
Speaker 1: That would be more of the goal for a golfer,
Speaker 1: is like, no, make me swing like Tiger? Think that way?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's that's not a bad idea. But uh,
Speaker 2: I want to be a chicken. I want to be
Speaker 2: My comedy was situational comedy. So I had people acting
Speaker 2: off of each other, like I might have a woman
Speaker 2: think that the person next to her is pinching around
Speaker 2: the butt whenever I rub my forehead. That would be
Speaker 2: an example of creating a situational comedy. And then they
Speaker 2: respond with a queue and although nothing actually happened, then
Speaker 2: the woman's having a reaction like, you know, you keep
Speaker 2: your hands for yourself, mister, and then the audience laughs.
Speaker 2: See so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how do you get people to agree to
Speaker 1: come up on stage for that?
Speaker 2: They volunteer and it's an art form as a hypnotist
Speaker 2: to look out into a sea of faces and they're
Speaker 2: all jumping up and down and they got their hands
Speaker 2: going and everything because it's fun. It's incredibly exciting. And
Speaker 2: then you pick about twenty people bring them up on stage.
Speaker 2: And I always had an assistant where she's still my
Speaker 2: partner and we've been partners thirty one years. And we
Speaker 2: bring up about twenty people and we do an induction
Speaker 2: on the stage where everyone can watch, and then it
Speaker 2: takes about, you know, six minutes or so, and then
Speaker 2: and then we keep about the best eight people out
Speaker 2: of twenty and make a show out of that. So
Speaker 2: each of these eight people, that's our recipe for success
Speaker 2: is to do a show with about eight to ten people.
Speaker 1: Well, you say the best, how do you get to that?
Speaker 1: What is it that you're looking for?
Speaker 2: Great question? So one of the things we're looking for
Speaker 2: as a hypnotist is how well do people pay attention
Speaker 2: to what I'm saying and how well do they follow
Speaker 2: my directions? Okay, this is built into the hypnosis program,
Speaker 2: by the way, it's called play like the pros. So
Speaker 2: one of the cues that are one of the suggestions
Speaker 2: we give is that your arms feel heavy, your arms
Speaker 2: feel loose, limp and relax, and your arms feel heavy
Speaker 2: in your lap. Then we come along and lift up
Speaker 2: someone's arm and let go, and if the arm stays up,
Speaker 2: then paying attention, and if they aren't plops down, then
Speaker 2: we know that they're following.
Speaker 1: They can move on to the next round, right exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one good way of looking at it. And actually,
Speaker 2: one of the reasons this is an insider secret that
Speaker 2: almost nobody would know. One of the reasons why I
Speaker 2: work with assistant and a lot of hypnotists don't is
Speaker 2: because when I'm facing the audience and I have my
Speaker 2: back to my volunteers. Some of them could be faking
Speaker 2: because they've seen the show. They know how to act,
Speaker 2: they know how to look hypnotized, but they're actually not.
Speaker 2: And so if I if I we eject them off
Speaker 2: the stage and I have an assistant say oh this guy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's faking, he's out of here, and then that way
Speaker 2: because we would be like an affair. So we'd be
Speaker 2: like doing two shows a day for a week or
Speaker 2: something like a county fair, a county fair, state fair.
Speaker 2: I thought you said an affair, Like wait right, what now?
Speaker 2: There we did. We got we got to do three
Speaker 2: seasons of Six Flags Magic Mountain and that was alast
Speaker 2: the Golden Beear Theater. The show it was so loud,
Speaker 2: so you know, just the best energy in the world,
Speaker 2: and it was a good place to hone my craft.
Speaker 2: So uh, that's to answer your question. That that's how
Speaker 2: we had various techniques. And of course On and I
Speaker 2: trained together, so she knew she knew what to look
Speaker 2: for as well, and she could just tell.
Speaker 1: So I got a chance to listen to most of you.
Speaker 1: You sent me the audio of one of your hypnosis sessions,
Speaker 1: and I was listening to it, and one of the
Speaker 1: lines that you had in there I absolutely loved, which
Speaker 1: is every shot has the potential to be great, yep, right,
Speaker 1: And it is such a great way to look at it,
Speaker 1: gnosis or not, that you know, when our frustration gets
Speaker 1: in the way and we're like, ah, today sucks, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be very good and I just screwed
Speaker 1: up that shot, and then you just your attitude is
Speaker 1: all wrong. But if you go in with an attitude
Speaker 1: of this could be the shot of the day, this
Speaker 1: could be my best shot, that's really gonna help you. Now.
Speaker 1: My problem with the hypnosis part and listening to the audio.
Speaker 1: I was in a room by myself. It was dark, right,
Speaker 1: there was one small light on in there, and I
Speaker 1: was very comfortable. But you know, we've talked many times,
Speaker 1: people say, don't think about a pink elephant, and what
Speaker 1: else are you gonna do is think about a pink elephant.
Speaker 1: So when you tell me to sit still and relax
Speaker 1: and feel the heaviness of your legs and your arms,
Speaker 1: I start itching and twitching and it's like I can't
Speaker 1: I can't sit unless I'm going to sleep. I can't
Speaker 1: sit still like that so I struggled with it a bit.
Speaker 1: Can you hypnotize me? Now? You can't do this? Over it?
Speaker 2: No? No, not over it? Then?
Speaker 1: Okay, I was hoping that would have been a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. But anyway, but I'm sure that there are
Speaker 1: things about hypnosis that some people it works, some people
Speaker 1: it doesn't. And there's probably a tremendous amount of myths
Speaker 1: about not only hypnosis in general, but self hypnosis that
Speaker 1: I'd love to break through and let people understand. Let
Speaker 1: me understand what are the things that we should be
Speaker 1: aware of?
Speaker 2: Okay, great, well, you know it surprises me. I think
Speaker 2: doctor Spiegel brought this up as well, that all hypnosis
Speaker 2: is a form of self hypnosis. Okay, So the short
Speaker 2: answer to that one is, think of me as your
Speaker 2: tour guide. If you're driving up in the mountains and
Speaker 2: you're looking for this lake and I help you get there.
Speaker 2: Then you get to the lake, you're there, you're enjoying it,
Speaker 2: you're loving life, and I'm no longer important. I'm just
Speaker 2: the one to help you get there. Okay. So that's
Speaker 2: what a hypnotist does. It's a hypnotist acts in that role.
Speaker 2: So all forms of hypnosis are self hypnosis because it
Speaker 2: takes place in your own subconscious mind whoever's using the hypnosis.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so what are the myths that we have
Speaker 1: to be concerned about. Is that the main one is.
Speaker 2: That it no no, no, no no. And in fact,
Speaker 2: I made a video about about hypnosis one on one
Speaker 2: for golfers. It's on YouTube. Anyone can watch it. My
Speaker 2: channel is golf Coach Buddy. And so the biggest myth
Speaker 2: about hypnosis is that you have to be easily swayed,
Speaker 2: a gullible, weak witted, dim witted, you know, not the
Speaker 2: sharpest crayon in the box. And and people are proud
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, I can't be hypnotized or you know,
Speaker 2: yeah I'm not susceptible to hypnosis. Right, you've probably heard that, right,
Speaker 2: maybe you said it yourself.
Speaker 1: Those people.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, if you, if you once you
Speaker 2: understand what hypnosis is, you'll understand it's something that anyone
Speaker 2: could do and it's just a matter of choice. And
Speaker 2: this applies to you too. So we're going to come
Speaker 2: back full circle to that. Okay. Now, the other myth
Speaker 2: is that once once you're in a hypnotized state, and
Speaker 2: let's just call it trance to facilitate conversation. Once you're
Speaker 2: in trance, that you're under the power of the hypnotist.
Speaker 2: And see, that's that's an incredible myth, and that's it's prevalent,
Speaker 2: and that's what most people believe because hypnosis has been stigmatized,
Speaker 2: and so believe me. Well, let me let's start with
Speaker 2: a question. Have you ever been to a movie at
Speaker 2: a theater and you were so moved it brought you
Speaker 2: to tears? Of course, could you tell me what movie
Speaker 2: it was?
Speaker 1: Most of the time when I cry at movies is
Speaker 1: on airplanes. But I've been to a movie theater a
Speaker 1: long time.
Speaker 2: Shindler's List, Okay, okay, there, Yeah, So when when all
Speaker 2: the atrocities were going on and you're you're emotionally involved,
Speaker 2: and you were getting into it and it was making
Speaker 2: you upset and causing you to have these emotional reactions, right, okay,
Speaker 2: did you ever feel like you weren't yourself?
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're in a theater, you're sitting there, it's dark, right,
Speaker 2: You're not sitting there scrimming around, You're just sitting there
Speaker 2: in the chair watching the movie. It's dark, you're ignoring distractions,
Speaker 2: you're paying attention to the movie, and you know they're
Speaker 2: all actors, right. You know that if the lights came on,
Speaker 2: or you smelled smoke, or the fire alarm went off
Speaker 2: or something, you just get up and leave like everybody else. Right.
Speaker 2: So you felt normal and natural in every way, didn't you? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 2: without even thinking about it. Okay, So you weren't aware
Speaker 2: of your conscious awareness because you relax that and just
Speaker 2: enjoyed the movie at a subconscious level. And that's where
Speaker 2: our emotions run. Okay, So being in a theater watching
Speaker 2: a movie and relaxed and just enjoying it, you're still you.
Speaker 2: You still feel normal in every way, and if you
Speaker 2: need to be interrupted for something important, it happens instantly,
Speaker 2: no big deal, right, And that's what hypnosis feels like.
Speaker 2: So people think that they're going to feel weird. I
Speaker 2: didn't myself when the first time I got hypnotized. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is going to feel weird. I'm going to feel
Speaker 2: like I'm buzzing or something something weird. Right, I'm going
Speaker 2: to feel like I'm not myself or something. But that
Speaker 2: never happens. Okay, Being in a state of hypno Being
Speaker 2: in trance is similar to just being in a state
Speaker 2: of daydream. Now, I got another question for you, Fred.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been driving home from work and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden you pull up in your driveway and
Speaker 2: you're like, holy smokes, I don't remember driving for the
Speaker 2: last ten minutes. Right, Has that happened to you?
Speaker 1: Of course? Okay, it really used to happen to me
Speaker 1: a lot. When I had a manual transmission. I was
Speaker 1: a stick shift, and I'm like, how did I get
Speaker 1: to third gear?
Speaker 2: Wait? Yeah, exactly. So it's very similar to being at
Speaker 2: the movie. Your body is doing something boring and repetitive.
Speaker 2: You're driving your same old car down the same old
Speaker 2: road at the same time of the day, dealing with
Speaker 2: the same cop you know, drivers and everything, and you
Speaker 2: just kind of go on autopilot. You're consciously driving the
Speaker 2: car safely, but your mind is often la la land.
Speaker 2: You're daydreaming, You're thinking about your wife or whatever, it
Speaker 2: could be anything, right, Yeah, exactly. So that is precisely
Speaker 2: what it's like to be in a hypnotic state. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you're still you, you still have conscious that flows,
Speaker 2: I mean exactly, Yeah, and we'll come back around to that.
Speaker 2: So so you're still you, You still feel normal in
Speaker 2: every way, you still have full cognitive function and awareness.
Speaker 2: But but your brain is in a in a in
Speaker 2: a you know, it's vibrating in a theta theta zone.
Speaker 2: So that's what it's like to be. So if everyone's
Speaker 2: had these experiences. Anytime you do something boring and repetitive,
Speaker 2: like taking a shower, driving home from work, going to
Speaker 2: a movie theater where you relax, the body, the body's
Speaker 2: doing something rope and your subconscious mind is just going
Speaker 2: all over the place having a great time. Right, That's
Speaker 2: exactly what hypnosis feels like. So anyone can do it
Speaker 2: anytime they want, and in fact, everyone gets into that
Speaker 2: state often whether they're aware of it or not. And
Speaker 2: the job of a hypnotist, as I mentioned earlier, is
Speaker 2: like being the guide. And I said, all hypnosis is
Speaker 2: a form of self hypnosis. So if you came to
Speaker 2: me and said, hey, my golf game's pretty good, but
Speaker 2: I just suck on these short puts under pressure, I
Speaker 2: get the yips and I just can't control my putting.
Speaker 2: I get the yips and it just frustrates the heck
Speaker 2: out of me, right, so we could do a session together.
Speaker 2: I can help you relax. It'd be like you know,
Speaker 2: walking into a theater, turn off the lights, sit down
Speaker 2: in a comfy chair, right, just like get a theater.
Speaker 2: And then so I hope you get your body relaxed,
Speaker 2: and then I will give you suggestions. And the suggestions
Speaker 2: will be Fred. Every time you step onto the green,
Speaker 2: the color green, you feel the grass beneath your feet,
Speaker 2: and you feel relaxed, You feel in control, and you
Speaker 2: see the putt and you know you can make the
Speaker 2: putt and you feel relaxed and full of confidence. And
Speaker 2: when you set up to the ball, you feel the
Speaker 2: weight of the club in your hands and you feel
Speaker 2: the ground under your feet and you know that you're
Speaker 2: going to make a nice smooth stroke and the ball's
Speaker 2: going to go in. Bubba buah blah blah. Right, So
Speaker 2: these are suggestions I would give you, But again I'm
Speaker 2: the guide. Everything that's important, is happening, is in your mind. Okay,
Speaker 2: So does that kind of make the picture for you?
Speaker 2: And if I said, if I said, hey, Fred, as
Speaker 2: long as you're hypnotized tomorrow, I want you to go
Speaker 2: rob a bank and bring me all the cash. Okay,
Speaker 2: you would reject thatuggestion because that's not something you would
Speaker 2: want to do right so anytime, and it's called a
Speaker 2: suggestion for a reason. It's not a command. So this
Speaker 2: ties in with a myth I said earlier about people
Speaker 2: think that they're under the control of the hypnotist. And see,
Speaker 2: that's a myth because I can only give suggestions. I
Speaker 2: can't give commands. No one's under my command. Now people
Speaker 2: are free to choose to follow the suggestion or not.
Speaker 2: But you always have your conscious awareness, just like being
Speaker 2: in a theater driving a car, So you're always able
Speaker 2: to reject any suggestion that you want to and that's important.
Speaker 2: And once people understand that, then they know then they
Speaker 2: have understanding and they no longer feel threatened by it.
Speaker 2: Then then it becomes a matter of going, well, hey,
Speaker 2: what are those suggestions. If they can help me with
Speaker 2: my golf game, I'd love to hear them, right, And
Speaker 2: I want to make this happen because here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I don't want to run out of time here. But
Speaker 2: when you start out in life, you are a sponge.
Speaker 2: You are recording everything, everything, all five senses, full blast,
Speaker 2: being filmed and recorded in your subconscious mind, and almost
Speaker 2: everything important in life that we learn how to do
Speaker 2: and how to process things, we're done with that by
Speaker 2: the time we're six or seven years old. And most
Speaker 2: people as adults, those are the programs they run their
Speaker 2: whole life. For most of us. I think there was
Speaker 2: a book. I haven't read it. I think everything important
Speaker 2: I learned in kindergarten something like that. It's probably a
Speaker 2: good book anyway. By using hypnosis as an adult, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're in your forties, fifty sixties or whatever, and
Speaker 2: like you think, gosh, am I ever going to get
Speaker 2: better at golf? I'm so frustrated. You know, by using hypnosis,
Speaker 2: you can rewrite the subconscious program that isn't serving you,
Speaker 2: like getting the yips on a short put under pressure, right, okay,
Speaker 2: and you can replace it with another program that works better.
Speaker 2: And then then the only thing left is repetition. Okay.
Speaker 2: So you have to listen to the program, you know,
Speaker 2: every day for you know, maybe two or three weeks whatever,
Speaker 2: and the longer you listen to it, you reinforce the
Speaker 2: new program. It occurs over time, but all you have
Speaker 2: to do is listen, okay, And you could do as
Speaker 2: you're drifting off to sleep at night, so it doesn't
Speaker 2: even take time out of your day. You just play
Speaker 2: the tape. I call it a tape. Play the program,
Speaker 2: listen to it as you're drifting off to sleep at night,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you're out on the
Speaker 2: golf course and you start getting amazing results, and you'll
Speaker 2: know it's because of the hypnosis program. And the kicker
Speaker 2: is that once that new program is in your subconscious mind,
Speaker 2: it'll be there as if you've had it your whole life.
Speaker 2: It's it's who you are now.
Speaker 1: Okay. A couple of things in listening to the program.
Speaker 1: As I was lying there last night and you said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to if you use the word green, right,
Speaker 1: it's the trigger word for you. It's not a good
Speaker 1: word for me. That's my last name, so that that
Speaker 1: word gets thrown around a lot in my life. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got to come up with another name.
Speaker 1: But I'm someone who and I've been open about this.
Speaker 1: I'm medicated for a d D right ADHD. And it's
Speaker 1: for me life is now and not now.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You look confused. I mean that's that I.
Speaker 2: Want to understand what you're saying. But I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I'm if I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, it's I've got a hyper focus,
Speaker 1: which really was a lot of a d D is
Speaker 1: hyper focus. Otherwise it's you know, I can hear the
Speaker 1: three conversations that are going at the tables around me
Speaker 1: as well as the one going on and and it's
Speaker 1: just and then like when my wife says I want
Speaker 1: to make a plan for next it's like, just make
Speaker 1: the plan and I'll be there. But don't ask me
Speaker 1: to think about I gotta you know, all I can
Speaker 1: really do is schedule my rounds of golf and get
Speaker 1: my work done. But it's now and not now does
Speaker 1: that make sense at all? So it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to get into that state, at least my first time around.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely willing to try it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know the induction that I use in
Speaker 2: the program, that's after many years of diligent study and
Speaker 2: experience to be to be the most effective to the
Speaker 2: largest group of people. And I wouldn't make the claim
Speaker 2: necessarily that that particular induction, word for word, is going
Speaker 2: to work one hundred percent for every single human being
Speaker 2: on the planet that speaks English. What I would say is,
Speaker 2: if you buy the program and for some reason it
Speaker 2: doesn't work for you and you're not happy, you can
Speaker 2: get your money back.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: But in your case, I'm happy to discuss your particular
Speaker 2: issue with the ADHD. But as far as the keyword goes,
Speaker 2: you could just mentally change it. Just think of a
Speaker 2: word that works for you better. In fact, let's just
Speaker 2: come up with one right now. Now, this is a
Speaker 2: word that as you're going through a round of golf. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's certain things that you have Okay, use your eyesight
Speaker 2: to focus on your target, right, use your hands to
Speaker 2: hold the club, and use your feet to feel the
Speaker 2: ground beneath you. Right. So we want you to be
Speaker 2: in the present moment of golf. We want you to
Speaker 2: be focused on exactly what you're doing, and so we
Speaker 2: want to make we want to keep you centered and grounded. Okay.
Speaker 2: So a lot of the suggestions are worded in that
Speaker 2: direction that, Hey, you're walking around the golf course, you
Speaker 2: see the target, you see a golf ball, you feel
Speaker 2: the way to the club in your hands, you feel
Speaker 2: the ground beneath your feet. Take one of these cues
Speaker 2: and make a word out of it. That helps you
Speaker 2: think of all the good, powerful and positive suggestions that
Speaker 2: you want to use in your subconscious mind.
Speaker 1: Balance.
Speaker 2: Balance, great, balance. So you say your keyword is green,
Speaker 2: I want you to think your keyword is balance. So
Speaker 2: every time you step up to a ball, or better yet,
Speaker 2: let's say if you have a good pre shot routine. Okay,
Speaker 2: you got the club in your hand, you're standing back
Speaker 2: behind the ball, you're siding down your target line right,
Speaker 2: and you're envisioning the shot you want to hit, and
Speaker 2: you take a practice swing. Right. When you come out
Speaker 2: of that practice swing, you feel the weight of the
Speaker 2: club in your hands as you're imagining the shot you're
Speaker 2: about to hit. This is a mental rehearsal, right, and
Speaker 2: a physical rehearsal. And then when you finish that backswing
Speaker 2: and you hold that finish, that's where your balance is, right,
Speaker 2: and you're thinking, my keyword is balance. Now I'm going
Speaker 2: to go step up and and perform this shot beautifully.
Speaker 2: I like it. So think of your keyword balance every
Speaker 2: time you do your pre shot routine. Yeah, that's going
Speaker 2: to help work great. Well, they it's going to help
Speaker 2: you stay balanced, or excuse me, it's going to help
Speaker 2: you stay in the present and stay centered and focus
Speaker 2: on your objective, which is to hit the shot you
Speaker 2: rehearse onto your target.
Speaker 1: And do you teach golf? Are you also a golf instructor?
Speaker 2: I do. I joined the Professional Golf Teachers Association of America,
Speaker 2: and uh, they're they're a it's like a home study
Speaker 2: course basically, But I worked with several top ranked professionals
Speaker 2: and and my focus is on putting on the short game.
Speaker 2: But I'm also schooled, and you know the full body swing,
Speaker 2: you know the full the full gamut. So and the
Speaker 2: reason why I'm trained that way is because I think
Speaker 2: of myself as a golf performance coach. So I take
Speaker 2: a holistic approach to every facet of a golfer's game.
Speaker 2: And so when I contemplate bring on a new golf
Speaker 2: coaching client, uh, that person, I will talk about their
Speaker 2: golf journey and we'll figure out if it's a good
Speaker 2: fit for me to work with that person. And part
Speaker 2: of that is to assess their full game and see
Speaker 2: where they can make the most improvement and the least
Speaker 2: amount of time and effort. So I focus on an
Speaker 2: immediate improvement and then a long term improvement.
Speaker 1: Awesome so many golf instructors, you know, they're they're they're
Speaker 1: working on swing mechanics right, and and not a lot
Speaker 1: not enough work on playing golf right, which is all
Speaker 1: the different aspects. It's not just about hitting the ball right.
Speaker 1: It's about playing the golf course. It's about you know,
Speaker 1: playing the game and making the best out of your
Speaker 1: bad shots, which are going to happen no matter what.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: And so what's interesting is so many books and God
Speaker 1: all the way back to Hogan is talking about the
Speaker 1: swing and the swing and you know, to become a
Speaker 1: better golfer and stuff, but it's really not you know, well,
Speaker 1: that's the focus of this podcast. It's all about the
Speaker 1: mental part of it. It's all about the internal struggle
Speaker 1: that's going on and getting through a round of golf,
Speaker 1: not on your mechanics, but on playing a round of
Speaker 1: golf right.
Speaker 2: Sure. You know you mentioned earlier you mentioned the zone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's the opposite of struggle. Being in the zone
Speaker 2: is when it's easy, it's effortless, right, you let the
Speaker 2: club heead do the work. You're seeing the shots you
Speaker 2: want to hit, your balls are tracking on target, you're
Speaker 2: enjoying the day. You just feel great. You're like walking
Speaker 2: above the ground. Life is beautiful, right, And so when
Speaker 2: you work on the mental game, you're kind of like
Speaker 2: tipping the scales in your favor, so you can set
Speaker 2: yourself up for success to enjoy peak performance during your
Speaker 2: round of golf. And I happen to believe that, you know,
Speaker 2: hypnosis can make a big difference in that regard. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so I've got lots of materials that people can well,
Speaker 2: you know a lot of people have been following your podcast,
Speaker 2: which focuses on the middle game, and that's what attracted
Speaker 2: us to each other. But I've created a variety of
Speaker 2: free resources on YouTube and on my website, golf coachbuddy
Speaker 2: dot com where people can come and learn more about
Speaker 2: how the mental game works, why it's important, and how
Speaker 2: you could use hypnosis to improve your mental game, because
Speaker 2: if you want to be honest, you know, your mental
Speaker 2: game can make or break your performance on the golf course.
Speaker 2: And the body follows the mind, and every shot exists
Speaker 2: first in your mind's eye, So the better you are
Speaker 2: at what's the one thing everyone says they want in golf?
Speaker 1: More distance, more consistency, More consistency and more distance. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So doesn't it make sense that if your mental
Speaker 2: approach to this golf game is more consistent, then so
Speaker 2: is your physical performance going to be more consistent.
Speaker 1: Nice?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where it's at.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about you've now become accustomed to the self
Speaker 1: hypnosis part of getting yourself into that place where you
Speaker 1: can recall the trigger word. What about your pre round preparation?
Speaker 1: Is this something that you need to do with the
Speaker 1: self hypnosis at the golf course before you leave the house?
Speaker 1: Where where do you put that? And what is the
Speaker 1: the what's the word I'm looking for there? You're practice,
Speaker 1: you're warm up?
Speaker 2: I got you. Yeah. It's funny to bring that up
Speaker 2: because I'm actually producing a pre round pep talk right now.
Speaker 2: It will be out, you know, this week, So it's
Speaker 2: about two minutes.
Speaker 1: So by the time that this podcast is, it'll.
Speaker 2: Be out long before the podcast airs is available.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it is available noway, And it's at golf
Speaker 1: coach Buddy dot com.
Speaker 2: Golf coachbuddy dot com, and it's the pre round pep Talk,
Speaker 2: and it's a little over two minutes, and it's very
Speaker 2: personalized because I'm I'm really particular about my brand and
Speaker 2: making connection with with people that like my brand, just
Speaker 2: just like your brand. So the pre round pep Talk
Speaker 2: is coming out and you can listen to it in
Speaker 2: your car on the way to the golf course. You
Speaker 2: can listen to it when you get there. Whatever works
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: Tell me a little more about.
Speaker 2: It, the pep Talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, what what are we trying to
Speaker 1: accomplish and how are you getting us there?
Speaker 2: Well? Uh, the idea of it is that people that
Speaker 2: are used to my work, they'll they'll make a connection
Speaker 2: with my voice so to help ground them. And then
Speaker 2: all the content that's particularly in the pep Talk is
Speaker 2: designed to have your head in the game. Put your
Speaker 2: game face on, get out there and be in the
Speaker 2: moment of golf and enjoy playing. You know, the beauty
Speaker 2: of the game. That's what it's all about. And get
Speaker 2: out there and crush it. And you know, if you
Speaker 2: get knocked down, you get back up right, So that's all.
Speaker 1: We stop beating? How do we start stop beating ourselves? There?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Fred, you got to be your own
Speaker 2: best friend on the golf course. You know, you talk
Speaker 2: about the mental game. Imagine for a moment if you
Speaker 2: hired a caddy, right, and you have a caddy, there's
Speaker 2: a stranger and and you hit a shot and it's
Speaker 2: it's god awful, right, and the caddie goes. Boy, you
Speaker 2: really suck. You know, you should take up basket weaving
Speaker 2: or something, right, and then you like wow, I can't
Speaker 2: believe you said that. And then after the next shot
Speaker 2: is like you miss the easy pott or like wow,
Speaker 2: way to go there, Alice, you know whatever? Yeah right,
Speaker 2: it gives you a bunch of grief and talks you know,
Speaker 2: surly right, you would never hire that caddy again if
Speaker 2: you went back this the same guys. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I want somebody else. This guy's a jerk, right right,
Speaker 2: So why would you talk to yourself that way?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Abste And that's what we do anybody, if anybody,
Speaker 1: I mean, from what I've witnessed, if anyone's gonna yell
Speaker 1: at anyone, they're gonna yell at themselves like it just
Speaker 1: like everyone uses, you know, they slam themselves and use
Speaker 1: their own name. A great shot, Fred, you suck, Fred? Oh?
Speaker 1: You know it's like I try to avoid that at
Speaker 1: all costs. I try, you know, But when someone screams
Speaker 1: at himself on the course, I'll regularly say, don't talk
Speaker 1: to my friend that way.
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. Well so so when you use the hypnosisis
Speaker 2: I was mentioned earlier, and you reprogram your subconscious mind,
Speaker 2: then you're writing new programs that run, and those programs
Speaker 2: no longer run. You know. It's like for someone who's
Speaker 2: smokes cigarettes, right, they have all these cues that make
Speaker 2: them want to light a cigarette, you know, open a beer,
Speaker 2: get in the car, or whatever it is, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And when a person makes decides that they're not going
Speaker 2: to smoke anymore, all those cues are still there, right,
Speaker 2: the program's still running. There's a neural pathway blaze emblazoned
Speaker 2: in the brain that says, hey, every time you walk
Speaker 2: into a bar and order a beer, you light a cigarette. Right. Well,
Speaker 2: so unless you don't go into bars and order a
Speaker 2: beer anymore, you're still going to put yourself in a
Speaker 2: situation where you used to want to light a cigarette. Right,
Speaker 2: So now you have to new you have to have
Speaker 2: a new neural pathway in your brain for your brain
Speaker 2: to follow that serves you better, that's more healthy, that
Speaker 2: you extinguish the old one. By attrition, you come up
Speaker 2: with a new one that takes its place, see, and
Speaker 2: then you follow that new one there. And hypnosis makes
Speaker 2: it possible because how else are are we supposed to
Speaker 2: directly communicate with our subconscious mind. You would not believe
Speaker 2: how powerful the subconscious mind is. For example, someone who's
Speaker 2: afraid to fly, You put them on a big, giant
Speaker 2: sound forty seven, right, and and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: they have a panic attack, right, and like, oh, just
Speaker 2: calm down, it's all safe. You know this plane is
Speaker 2: you know, twenty years old, it's not going to crash, right,
Speaker 2: there's redundant systems, they got four engines, you know, the pilots.
Speaker 2: You give all the reasons in the world why it's safe. Right,
Speaker 2: But they're having an emotional response. I no, I'm panic attack.
Speaker 2: It's fight or flight. Their heart rates pumping, you know,
Speaker 2: their blood, there's fight or fight. The hormones are pumping,
Speaker 2: and they're having an attack and it's real in their mind,
Speaker 2: and chemically it's real, right, the neurochemically so. But it
Speaker 2: started in their mind. That's where its genesis is, that's
Speaker 2: where it lives. So when they think of getting on airplane,
Speaker 2: they're gonna have a panic attack, right, now to a
Speaker 2: lesser degree. That happens when you walk onto a putting green.
Speaker 2: You walk onto the green and you set up for
Speaker 2: let's say a lag put and you think, oh, I
Speaker 2: got this, and you're not get passed, and it rolls,
Speaker 2: you know, eleven feet by right, You're like, oh no,
Speaker 2: now now I'm gonna I'm not going to be able
Speaker 2: to make this pot. Now I'm in a three pot.
Speaker 2: Then you start feeling awful. Then your heart starts pumping,
Speaker 2: and then and then you know, you start feeling jacked up,
Speaker 2: and now you're a bundle of nerves, right, and if
Speaker 2: that happens, you probably are going to miss the putt,
Speaker 2: but now you know why. So with hypnosis, you can
Speaker 2: extinguish that behavior, just like quitting smoking, and put a
Speaker 2: new behavior in its place that that works better for you.
Speaker 2: And this is something you can make a conscious choice
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Let's talk about your
Speaker 1: your program play like the pros okay, and how people
Speaker 1: can get involved with it okay and get in touch.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'll tell you I waited a long
Speaker 2: time to bring out the program because I want to
Speaker 2: get the love, time and attention that it deserves, and
Speaker 2: I wanted to make it maximally effective. And I knew
Speaker 2: I'd only get one chance to impress people with getting
Speaker 2: results and offering one hundred percent money back satisfaction guarantee,
Speaker 2: So that doesn't deliver the goods, you know, it's not
Speaker 2: going to be a successful program. So I had all
Speaker 2: that in mind as I created it, and I spent
Speaker 2: about a year putting it together, and then I spent
Speaker 2: another year rewriting it, reworking it and optimizing it with
Speaker 2: the latest statistics about good strategy on the golf course.
Speaker 2: And so here's what I did. I created the Hypnosis Program,
Speaker 2: which is an MP three track. It's about twenty four
Speaker 2: minutes long. And then I created a companion program that's
Speaker 2: a PDF and it's about sixty pages long. And what
Speaker 2: the PDF does if you just sit and read it,
Speaker 2: and it talks about how hypnosis works, and it talks
Speaker 2: about the importance of the short game, and it talks
Speaker 2: about using good strategy around the golf course. So I'm
Speaker 2: setting you up. It's like an alley oop. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: setting you up to have the thoughts in your conscious
Speaker 2: awareness to go, Yeah, you know now that I think
Speaker 2: about that is a good idea. I would like to
Speaker 2: be able to feel more relaxed when I step onto
Speaker 2: the putting green. So I accept the idea of that. Right.
Speaker 2: Then the hypnosis gives it to you. It puts it
Speaker 2: right into your subconscious mind when you're doing your self hypnosis. Okay.
Speaker 2: And so those come together with a welcome video that
Speaker 2: tells you how to use the program, how to do
Speaker 2: the hypnosis. And then there's also some bonus programs. Because
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, I love golf tips, right,
Speaker 2: so it's like, hey, what are they.
Speaker 1: I've been doing this show for twenty years. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love golf tips.
Speaker 2: So if you think, what are the biggest scoring mistakes?
Speaker 2: For example, right, what are the best scoring tips? What's
Speaker 2: the best way to practice? These are things that could
Speaker 2: be really beneficial. But who's got the time to sit
Speaker 2: and read a mountain of books and everything? So I
Speaker 2: read the mountain of books and I created what I
Speaker 2: call Kent's Top Tens, kn's Top tens Scoring Mistakes, kn's
Speaker 2: Top tens Scoring Tips, and kn's Top ten practice Tips
Speaker 2: and kn's Top ten pre shot Routine. So these are
Speaker 2: all programs that come as a bonus and they come
Speaker 2: with the program. You get them for free. You can't
Speaker 2: buy them separately. They only bundle with the program. And
Speaker 2: the reason why they're there is to help you turbo
Speaker 2: charge your results that you get from the hypnosis. So
Speaker 2: altogether it's a great package. And normally I sell it
Speaker 2: on my website for ninety seven dollars, okay, but for
Speaker 2: being on your show today and I know you have
Speaker 2: a dedicated listeners and if they'd like to buy the program,
Speaker 2: I'm offering a twenty dollars discount with a discount code
Speaker 2: for golf Smarter. So if you go to my website
Speaker 2: golf Coachbuddy dot com, backslash pros it's easy to find
Speaker 2: on the website, but the page pros.
Speaker 1: Yeah, golf coachbuddy dot com.
Speaker 2: And put that in your cart, put in the coupon
Speaker 2: code golf Smarter, and you get twenty dollars off. So
Speaker 2: you get as an instant download and it would the
Speaker 2: total cost of seventy seven dollars. And here's the best part.
Speaker 2: You don't have to take my word for it. If
Speaker 2: it's going to work for you, you try it out to
Speaker 2: your heart's content. You go out play your heart out
Speaker 2: use the program, follow the program, and up to sixty
Speaker 2: days if you're not happy with it for any reason whatsoever,
Speaker 2: no questions asked, you just let me know and we'll
Speaker 2: give you all your money back, so there's really no risk.
Speaker 1: Very generous.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's really kind of you to offer the Golf Smarter
Speaker 1: community a very generous it's my way that probably should
Speaker 1: cost a lot more than that, but that's great.
Speaker 2: Well, it's my way of showing my appreciation for being
Speaker 2: on the show today and reaching your audience. Thank you,
Speaker 2: You're welcome.
Speaker 1: Well, Ken, thank you so much for the education and
Speaker 1: the fascinating insights on another way to improve our game.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate your
Speaker 2: Time Fred to spend my pleasure, and I hope to
Speaker 2: see you again soon