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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Swamp Watch comes at the top of the hour. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a development coming out of the White House. They

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<v Speaker 2>have said that they are not going to do a

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<v Speaker 2>news conference today with Prime Minister net Yahoo and President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump net Yah, who's at the White House today for

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<v Speaker 3>But the traditional.

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<v Speaker 2>Dual news conference apparently will not be happening, and they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't explained why, but the President Trump is expected to

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<v Speaker 2>take some questions regarding tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>We were asking for your earliest memory. We got one

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<v Speaker 1>from our buddy Dave Over at ABC seven. He is

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<v Speaker 1>their automotive expert, and so his first memory is funny.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was three, we lived in New Jersey, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>for a short time, I remember the man across the

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<v Speaker 1>street had a Pontiac and he backed it into the driveway.

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought that was so cool and remember it

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<v Speaker 4>to this day.

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<v Speaker 5>Fun Hey, Gary Channon, this is Christine in Dallas, Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>My earliest memory is when I was three years old.

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<v Speaker 5>I was in a bad car accident with my mom

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<v Speaker 5>and I vividly remember it, and I was told like

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<v Speaker 5>my whole life that there's no way I could remember

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<v Speaker 5>something so young until I actually met the man that

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<v Speaker 5>pulled me out of the car at fifteen. He was

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<v Speaker 5>a tanner at the Tanning salon I worked at.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a what at the Tanning salon?

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<v Speaker 3>Hanner at the Tanning salon?

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting. I don't think I remember a dude that went

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<v Speaker 4>to the tanning.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember a car accident as well that was like

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<v Speaker 2>as a child, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember the car.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the intersection, and it apparently was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>worse than We didn't get hurt, but the car itself

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty well destroyed. Because I remember asking whatever happened

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<v Speaker 2>to that blue Chrysler that we used to have, and

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<v Speaker 2>they said, well, it was in the accident.

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<v Speaker 3>It was totaled. After that, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, and then it was was did it

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<v Speaker 2>was the accident like just at Water Street, right below

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<v Speaker 2>the bridge, Yeah, right there were the Yes, that's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>where it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And they t boned us from the right side.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mom was like, how do you even how could

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<v Speaker 2>you possibly remember that old two or three something?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I remember being here, you remember the car, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would not have been in a car seat. Just

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<v Speaker 2>to be clear, this would have been no. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also had two football field size acres of

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<v Speaker 2>land back there, right if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Were in the back on the sofa drinking lead, not

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<v Speaker 1>in a car seat, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So cow vintage motels are back getting life breathed back

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<v Speaker 2>into them.

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<v Speaker 1>Love this idea because it's so cool to see those

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<v Speaker 1>old neon signs, the shape of them, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of an old motel. I love the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of staying in one. And then I think of in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds school. It's kind of like Greg getting one

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<v Speaker 1>of those sprinter vans and taking it across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds great in theory, but when you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>smells and what would go on, it's less romantic, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of staying in one of these is so

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<v Speaker 1>cool and at the same time oh so dirty and

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<v Speaker 1>old and no but apparently there get It's like a renaissance,

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<v Speaker 1>a rebirth, as it is they talk about in the

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<v Speaker 1>La Times, the farmhouse motel. This was a fifties property,

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<v Speaker 1>riverside property, and they have rebirthed it. It has been

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<v Speaker 1>given new life as a mini mall, food hall, and music.

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<v Speaker 4>Venue, and it's doing very well.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a renovation project that we're seeing at other

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<v Speaker 1>mid century motels. Some have been moving upscale, becoming boutique hotels.

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<v Speaker 1>Some have been leveled acquired by the governments as trendsditional housing.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are a rare few in southern California that

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<v Speaker 1>have taken on new commercial afterlives. The Farmhouse, Roy's Motel

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<v Speaker 3>That one I've driven by a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really cool because if nothing else, listen, even

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not using it as a motel hotel, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it's kept up the exteriors of it

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<v Speaker 2>so that you can use I mean, the Pink Motel

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<v Speaker 2>movie shots because it looks so great on the outside

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't you don't need anything on the inside

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<v Speaker 2>at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>They write, the most dramatic nonprofit example of motel rebirth

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Lorraine Motel in Memphis, the site of MLK

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<v Speaker 1>Junior's assassination, reopened in ninety one as the National Civil

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<v Speaker 1>Rights Museum. Recent commercial examples Ferguson's downtown in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the old is that the old?

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<v Speaker 1>D I don't remember anyway, nineteen forties motel reborn as

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<v Speaker 1>a food in retail center in twenty nineteen. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>the La Hacienda motel in Albuquerque, dude open this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But that would be a fun project to, isn't it

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<v Speaker 1>like grat buying one of these old hotels for you

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<v Speaker 1>would assume dirt cheap and turning it into something well.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, the place I stayed in over the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend was a house that was built in nineteen oh eight.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so cool, middle of Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>And then just within the last year they reopened it

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<v Speaker 2>as an airbnb, but they had redone. They redid the

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<v Speaker 2>floors obviously because they were just destroyed, but most of

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<v Speaker 2>the interior siding stayed the same. They just painted it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the roof or not the roof. The ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>in each room was slightly different from reclaimed wood that

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<v Speaker 2>was either taken from that same property or from other

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<v Speaker 2>pieces around Waco that were then put in there. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was really cool. And then all of

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<v Speaker 2>the modern, you know, a great brand new everything in

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen was brand new, so you had whatever comfort

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<v Speaker 2>you had of just having you know, good.

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<v Speaker 4>What did it looked like from the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>You have pictures, I can show you a picture. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like an old house. I mean, and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just very well taken care of the family

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<v Speaker 2>that owns it. Apparently they don't live there. We had

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<v Speaker 2>to ask them a couple of questions. They don't live there,

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<v Speaker 2>but they this was their investment property. And in the

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<v Speaker 2>entryway to the house, they have some picked eight or

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<v Speaker 2>ten pictures of the process of reh.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, which is kind of neat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm sure there's a lot of stories that

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<v Speaker 2>go into it, but it was there's something about we

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<v Speaker 2>don't see it here in California as much. A house

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<v Speaker 2>it's one hundred years old here is very rare. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Neil talks about he has a house that's that old.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, the house I live in was built

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<v Speaker 2>in two nineteen ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's no there's no history to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not but there are other places around this country

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<v Speaker 2>where one hundred year old house is not uncommon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I like where I lived, we've got one hundred old houses.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they look like it, Yeah, I do. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they look like they've been you know, repainted, and but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they've seen a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>All Right, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand

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<v Speaker 6>from KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Monday, April seventh. We'll get into the tariff

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<v Speaker 2>talk here in just a moment. We get into swamp

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<v Speaker 2>watch some other stuff that's going on though. Rivers, rows,

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<v Speaker 2>flooding is getting worse in the South and the Midwest.

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<v Speaker 2>Several communities that are already water logged got even more

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<v Speaker 2>heavy rain and storms yesterday. At least eighteen people have

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<v Speaker 2>died from Texas to Ohio. Utilities who have been scrambling

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<v Speaker 2>to shut off power and gas cities have been deploying

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<v Speaker 2>sandbags to try to protect homes and businesses. Forecasters have

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<v Speaker 2>worn that flooding could persist for days, especially in the

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<v Speaker 2>areas around Kentucky Tennessee, Alabama. Some rivers that inundated towns

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<v Speaker 2>but that the rain is not necessarily over for the week,

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<v Speaker 2>so it could get even worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncontroversial celebration in Washington, d C. Today Dodgers went to

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<v Speaker 1>be honored for winning the championship before we kick off

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<v Speaker 1>swamp Watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops.

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<v Speaker 6>Here we got the real problem is that our leaders

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<v Speaker 6>are done.

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<v Speaker 3>The other side never quits.

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<v Speaker 7>So what I'm not going anywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>So now you train the squad, I can imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>can be and be unburdened by.

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<v Speaker 8>What has been.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, amervants have always been going at present. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>A political plunder is what a politician actually tells the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Have the people voted for you were not swamp Watch.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all counternoed.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, President Trump is somebody who's around it himself with

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<v Speaker 1>beauty his whole life. So you would imagine that DC

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<v Speaker 1>is a tough road to hoe for him, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why he said when he took a look at the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a very good looking group of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>You see some people, oftentimes like politicians, behind me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not so pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a very good looking group of people.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's honest.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one hundred and twenty percent honest for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He took time specifically honoring members of last year's team,

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy Edmond, of course, the NLCS MVP of the World Series,

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<v Speaker 2>MVP Freddie Freeman, Mooki Betts, of course, he pointed out

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<v Speaker 2>and acknowledged, Muki did not go. You may have heard

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<v Speaker 2>deva mention he did not go when the Red Sox

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<v Speaker 2>won the World Series and Trump was in office the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. He also noted Shoheyo Tani's game against Miami

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<v Speaker 2>back in September, some consider the greatest offensive performance ever

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<v Speaker 2>six for six with the three home runs ten runs

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<v Speaker 2>batted in after the Sarah that they did. I think

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<v Speaker 2>in the East room maybe they gave him. He gave

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<v Speaker 2>them a tour of the West wing, including a stop

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<v Speaker 3>So very cool for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this stock market collapse has continued. It will continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody picked up the phone today, however, the stock market down.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dow, I should say, was down about fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>at one point, it rebounded to being down about one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because in that timeframe Trump, people close to

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<v Speaker 4>Now we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dow's only down about one seventy two, so I

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<v Speaker 1>What the twenty four hour news cycle brings us when

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<v Speaker 2>This will be the topic of discussion, these tariffs. So

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<v Speaker 2>if when that happens, we'll be paying attention to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Undeterred by what we've seen over the last few days.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to stock prices, President Trump threatened additional

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<v Speaker 2>that were announced last week. So the way he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>including obviously the stuff that we get from China, it

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<v Speaker 2>Because as as these tariffs have been put in place,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just it's not just reshuffling our relationships with

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<v Speaker 2>Because places like China that do have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not just to say that the same kind

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there is there is a possibility that the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>uncertainty that drives as we've said many times, it's that

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<v Speaker 4>Can you choke your own self? I don't think you

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<v Speaker 3>Would you choke yourself?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Like would you stay?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Could you passed?

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<v Speaker 9>Out?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course? Yeah? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see when the break and see what happens Garrie

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<v Speaker 2>and Shannon will return, maybe, Deborah Mark, did you finish

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<v Speaker 2>that show?

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<v Speaker 1>Devra?

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<v Speaker 8>I have a few more episodes, Shannon, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we were going to catch some hell for

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so to catch you up, I'll catch you up

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<v Speaker 10>Gary, Okay, great, I'm going to finish it because I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>In we have to, you have to.

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<v Speaker 3>I did rousing endorsement.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, well I'm not loving it.

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah and I went on the air and we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to watch this show. And then I sat

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<v Speaker 1>my god, we're going to catch so much heat off

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<v Speaker 1>of recommending the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that we recommended it, We just said we were.

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<v Speaker 8>Going to watch it exactly because it has sex in

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<v Speaker 8>the title.

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<v Speaker 3>I could go wrong.

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<v Speaker 10>Last God that I never want to hear that ever, ever, ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 10>ever off. And there's a couple other things in there.

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<v Speaker 10>I never want to hear things. See yeah again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>oh boy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny because I thought he looked like somebody, but

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't place him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll have to remember the name, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good. The White House does say that other countries

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<v Speaker 2>are lining up to discuss tariffs and maybe negotiate down

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<v Speaker 2>so that we don't have reciprocal tariffs anymore. At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>the news conference between President Trump and Prime Minister net

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<v Speaker 2>and Yahoo has been called off. The Israeli Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 3>But the only problems that I'm sorry, the only.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump will be speaking from the Oval Office relatively soon.

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<v Speaker 2>We've told you about Wall Street's reaction. In the first

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<v Speaker 2>We're also asked earlier today, what was your earliest memory.

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<v Speaker 7>Probably my earliest memory was when I was five or six.

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<v Speaker 7>that the cops looked at me. I saw two adults

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<v Speaker 7>and they were like, can you come here? And all

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<v Speaker 7>I could think was, you know, the stranger danger. I

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<v Speaker 4>Wait did he say cops?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stranger danger does not apply to cops.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe I only thought that because my grandfather was

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<v Speaker 9>Guys, my earliest memory is what all traumatic ones were.

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<v Speaker 9>It was my mom crying, and I was three when

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<v Speaker 9>Kennedy was shot and killed. Oh God, was crying?

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<v Speaker 3>That actually was pretty common.

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<v Speaker 2>Buch was really parents reaction happening in nineteen sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty sixty three, and then sixty eight was the next round.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, what is the show you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>watching that you guys are Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Told Deborah Deborah, okay, Deborah and I have been in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft of good shows to watch, and she said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she texted me I think Thursday or Friday

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<v Speaker 4>It's coming out today.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it is, and it's called Dying for Sex with

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Williams, who's a wonderful actress.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, okay, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>I started watching it in they're the twenty five minute episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're nice and easy to get. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a movie easily, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>movie length. It's probably about two hours once you finish it,

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<v Speaker 1>which I did. And it starts off the premise is

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<v Speaker 1>you already said it. Yeah, the O situation with another person?

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<v Speaker 1>The O situation, Well, what do you want me to say?

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<v Speaker 1>You want me to be more graphic? Probably right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's about that. It's about I want this to

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<v Speaker 1>happen before I die kind of a thing. And why

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't she been able to do that? You kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get into the reasons behind that. It's really well acted,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny. It's especially in the first couple episodes, very funny,

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<v Speaker 1>and and they're very likable. The characters are very likable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's really the cheesecake Factory menu. As you

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<v Speaker 1>get into the show, it's like, whoa, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the world. Okay, I mean, very little

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<v Speaker 1>surprises me anymore, but it still happens. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit I won't say surprised, but huh, like, okay, right, Deborah.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean, I'm actually surprised that Michelle Williams because

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just surprised that she would want to do this.

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<v Speaker 10>I get that it's it's it's unusual. It's definitely unlike

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know, it's it's a little too kinky for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I was thinking that I'm watching this and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Deborah is not going to make it through.

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<v Speaker 8>This, No, but I'm committed.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, once you're in it, you have to have to

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<v Speaker 10>I can't.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't give it way, but it really got me.

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<v Speaker 8>It got me thinking. And that's the other thing about

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<v Speaker 10>I don't want to give it away, but just about

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<v Speaker 10>when you're dying, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, right ends her marriage.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh well, I wasn't going to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's pretty much that's what they I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even know how to get into why,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it makes the marriage made no sense? Yeah, all right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody has you know, not everybody has that, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people get into things for the wrong reasons and

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's really a good show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it does make you think, I'll give it that

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<v Speaker 1>once you get past the you know.

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<v Speaker 8>The the creepiness of some of the characters.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like it's like a marriage appreciation show, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 10>I know, I know it's crazy and I guess this

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know how much of this because there is

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<v Speaker 10>a disclaimer saying that you know some of the characters

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<v Speaker 10>are you know, made up, but you kind of think, wow,

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<v Speaker 10>I really am.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, And there was this one at one moment when

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<v Speaker 1>friend who they're They're just they're so lovable.

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<v Speaker 5>Her and her.

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<v Speaker 10>Friend she was in that movie with like Lively, it

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<v Speaker 10>ends with us.

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<v Speaker 7>She was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the therapist once that time says, oh you

435
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<v Speaker 1>will you older millennials are so funny. You think sex

436
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<v Speaker 1>is all about you know that the in and out men?

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we say yes? And she's like she's basically like

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<v Speaker 1>sex is like a vit Like it's like it's everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like what.

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<v Speaker 8>Like I started thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like looking.

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<v Speaker 4>Outside looking at that a tree of.

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<v Speaker 8>Like is it there?

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<v Speaker 11>Like what is she talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>That was that was too deep for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a good jay Like I love shows

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<v Speaker 1>that open up my mind, like it makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 1>To know that there's like things that you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>like my mind to be opened. I like to learn

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<v Speaker 1>new things, learn ways that people live that I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>thought about before. Like, I do love that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that was definitely that show. Yeah the Neighbor,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh where was?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, never mind, I'll talk to you when you're.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, okay, Yeah, I think I'm I think I'm on

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<v Speaker 10>episode five. I think I just finished it, so I

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<v Speaker 10>think there's eight, right, so I have three. But I

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<v Speaker 10>do what I like. What I'm getting out of it

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<v Speaker 10>is it makes me think and and it does make

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<v Speaker 10>me think about and I and I think about this

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<v Speaker 10>actually all the time, and I do have conversations with

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<v Speaker 10>my husband about this all the time, that you know,

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<v Speaker 10>life is short and that we really do need to

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<v Speaker 10>live our best life because we have one shot. And

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<v Speaker 10>you know, when you when you're you see a woman

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<v Speaker 10>who's dying of cancer, and you know, she knows that

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<v Speaker 10>her days are limited, so she wants to live her

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<v Speaker 10>best life.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 10>Obviously, maybe what she wants out of her you know,

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<v Speaker 10>a few months left to live, would be different than

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<v Speaker 10>maybe what I would want her other people, but you know,

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<v Speaker 10>kudos to her for going for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you hear this conversation being had. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you think, like Tim McGraw Live Like You Were Dying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know a yeac love that song, right, we all

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<v Speaker 1>love that song. But it's like this, this show kind

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<v Speaker 1>of takes that song a step further in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like what you really think about, Like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a concept of Live Like you Were Dying, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the song, yes, right, but then there's the like it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually happening and how would that manifest?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and then it kind of put me in a funk.

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<v Speaker 10>Then it made me sad, you know what I mean

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<v Speaker 10>just thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just well, the earthquakes right around the corner breast I start,

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<v Speaker 1>I open up with a guy that dresses up like

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<v Speaker 1>a dog.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, no, that I'm not going to do.

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<v Speaker 10>I think, uh, I'm going to continue traveling because that's

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<v Speaker 10>my passion. But you know, being with a guy that

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<v Speaker 10>dresses up like a dog and barks and no, no,

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<v Speaker 10>that is it looks nice, Shannon.

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<v Speaker 3>No, then what he like, you know, come to the bend.

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<v Speaker 8>And she tells him what to do.

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<v Speaker 10>That that's another thing, and tells everybody what to do

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know that that.

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<v Speaker 8>Stuff just.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, let's not just.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's h I think I've already passed.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, cars, last words, what was that show you

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<v Speaker 1>girls were watching?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I took a nap?

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<v Speaker 8>And he's going to go watch it tonight, Shannon, and

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<v Speaker 8>he's gonna come.

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<v Speaker 10>No, he's going tomorrow and he's gonna say what in

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<v Speaker 10>the world he last.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty seconds that shout dumb phones may save us from

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<v Speaker 2>brain rot.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about that when we come back.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Channon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, no word from the White House on the specific

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<v Speaker 2>timing of this, but President Trump is expected to make

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<v Speaker 2>some comments today in the context of tariffs and the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of this trade war, to see if he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to pull back from any of it, if he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to put a pause on it, or if he's just

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<v Speaker 2>going to push forward and put his foot on the

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<v Speaker 2>gas when it comes to tariffs, exorbitantly high terriffs on

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<v Speaker 2>some countries. Brian Chen is a writer for The New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times. He's the lude, the lead falling after you Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>the lead consumer technology writer, and it talks about the

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<v Speaker 2>social implications of the way technology impacts us.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever feel like when we talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>turning off the phone, moving away from brain rot, moving

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<v Speaker 1>away from scrolling, moving away from phone addiction, the same

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<v Speaker 1>way when we talk about moving away.

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<v Speaker 4>From process foods, that like people freaking hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>They hate the idea of taking any sort of addiction

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<v Speaker 1>or any sort of pleasure center being taken away from them,

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<v Speaker 1>And like we're shouting into an empty well, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like we don't fall prey to all of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I love process foods, I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrolling and playing my stupid games and whatever looking at Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just recognize it's awful for me. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we talk about this stuff so often. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like part of it's like we're not holier than now.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not like, yes, get rid of your phone, get

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<v Speaker 1>a brick for a phone, and go back to the

545
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<v Speaker 1>days of living off the land and eat only apples.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like that we do all this stuff. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to like mitigate that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny that you mentioned it because the similarity between

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<v Speaker 2>this type of activity figuring out how to slow your

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<v Speaker 2>brain down a little bit and food, because to do

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<v Speaker 2>the food thing takes a little bit of effort, takes

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of determination on your part to buy

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that you need to make a food right,

554
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<v Speaker 2>not just buy a food, but to put the ingredients

555
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<v Speaker 2>together to cook it, to do the research about what's

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<v Speaker 2>good for you and what's not, and how you can

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<v Speaker 2>find the best version of whichever product you've got. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the same thing. This takes a certain amount of determination.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be able to say to yourself, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to take my phone with me if I whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>if I go for a walk, I'm just gonna sit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to have to listen to music. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to get myself so.

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<v Speaker 2>Conditioned where it's for some people stress inducing if I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have my phone with me, or if I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have music playing while I'm running, or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes that certain amount of determination will nobody has that.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not good at it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just we haven't practiced it, we haven't tried it,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't do it very often.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just like every other thing. You've got to

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<v Speaker 3>build it up like.

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<v Speaker 2>A muscle, and that that is not easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>When you talk about the amount of stuff that you

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<v Speaker 2>do with your phone every day, we sit in here

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<v Speaker 2>for four hours. We don't need our phones, but we

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<v Speaker 2>still have them with us the entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll say this, and I have done this. All

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<v Speaker 1>I need is this phone. It's just not the way

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<v Speaker 1>this job.

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<v Speaker 4>Was usually done.

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<v Speaker 3>True.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have forgotten my laptop before and not needed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in the olden days, it's like you would

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<v Speaker 1>print all the stories out, or you'd have physical newspapers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the old and olden days, we used to get

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<v Speaker 1>every paper delivered to the radio stations I used to

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<v Speaker 1>work at in the morning, and then in the afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>you'd get another round of papers. And that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>talk show hosts would use, physical papers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we did.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it became the Internet, and then you'd print

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff out or whatever. And now we're at

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<v Speaker 1>the point of we don't really need all that, We

597
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<v Speaker 1>really don't need anything. We just need the So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of it's a it's it's a help, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a help for everything. And that's why we're so

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to these things, because they're not without it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just pure you know, playing, it's not just a video

602
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<v Speaker 1>game we're playing with all day. It actually makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things in life that we have to do easier.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's also the constant time suck.

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<v Speaker 2>But but again, and to go back to your your

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<v Speaker 2>allegory of the process, it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we can do the processed foods make collecting, buying,

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<v Speaker 3>eating the food that much easier.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, uh right, But it.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't mean it's better. I mean it can't be. And

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<v Speaker 3>yeah you can be, you know, a time saver.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think that we will the pendulum will

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<v Speaker 1>swing to whatever the next generation of kids is where

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<v Speaker 1>they just think that they have to have a smartphone

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the way all the old people do it.

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<v Speaker 1>They all have smartphones, and we're going to be different.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna totally turn our backs on technology. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I can see that happening.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just going to remember in our heads when our

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<v Speaker 2>appointment is. I can see it happen. I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to it. The thing is, because we're big, dumb animals,

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<v Speaker 2>we need someone to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very few people are willing to go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and be the weird ones on their own and say

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to eat a specific way, not to impress you,

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<v Speaker 2>but to make sure that my body works right. Very

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<v Speaker 2>few kids are going to be like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I realize that when my school took my phone away,

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<v Speaker 2>I did better in school.

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<v Speaker 3>I had better friendships.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that it's not that that's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>them there, it's that everyone else is doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when kids stopped having sex because all the

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<v Speaker 1>previous generations had sex. We're not going to do drugs

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<v Speaker 1>the straight lace generation. Everyone did drugs in eight I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do drugs in the nineties or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's going against the grain wherever the grain is.

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<v Speaker 1>If the grain is going in the way of everyone

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<v Speaker 1>as a smartphone and they're on it all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you better believe there's going to be a section of

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<v Speaker 1>kids who completely turn their back on that.

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<v Speaker 2>In this case, this writer again Brian Chen for The

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times. He bought a something called a light

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<v Speaker 2>Phone three from a company in Brooklyn. It's a stripped

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<v Speaker 2>down phone that really doesn't do much of anything. It

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<v Speaker 2>places calls, it can send text messages. It can take photos,

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<v Speaker 2>it can show map directions and then play music or podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no web browser, there's no app store, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can't use it for Uber or something like that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no slack, there's no social media. It doesn't even have email.

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<v Speaker 2>So he used this thing to determine if, in fact

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<v Speaker 2>it would make a difference in his life to take

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<v Speaker 2>away again, not even all of it, just some of

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<v Speaker 2>the functions of your smartphone. He said, I admire the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>This is his conclusion, by the way, but he says,

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<v Speaker 2>my experience demonstrates there's nothing we can realistically do or

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<v Speaker 2>buy to bring us back to simpler times because so

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<v Speaker 2>many aspects of our lives revolve around our highly capable smartphones.

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<v Speaker 2>He said it might be better suited as a secondary

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<v Speaker 2>leisure phone, similar to a weekend car, for people to

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<v Speaker 2>unplug when they're off, but he said, even then, the

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<v Speaker 2>camera quality.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be a deal breaker for some of these people.

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<v Speaker 3>So he tried, I had a given credit. He tried, how.

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<v Speaker 11>Did it get to be the twelve o'clock hour? You

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<v Speaker 11>and deb were, Oh, we were yapping for a while.

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<v Speaker 11>Well here we are, aren't you happy?

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<v Speaker 4>Gary? Channel will continue.

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