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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of September sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we are discussing season four, episode five of Only Murders

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<v Speaker 2>in the Building.

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<v Speaker 3>It is called Adaptation, and basically it just was like

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<v Speaker 3>a giant circle because we started with someone holding a

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<v Speaker 3>gun and it turned out to be nothing, and then yes,

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<v Speaker 3>by the end of the episode, gunshots again, like another cliffhanger,

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<v Speaker 3>exactly like the one we did had before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, indeed, I am feeling like such a grinch this

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<v Speaker 1>season because I'm just not feeling this. Yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 1>seems so self indulgent. I mean, I'm very happy for

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<v Speaker 1>Eva Longoria that she wants to get out there and

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<v Speaker 1>lampoon herself, but I don't really care. Yeah, I'll follow

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<v Speaker 1>her that much. If I were a big fan of hers,

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably be going, Whooo, look at that. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just I don't know. I look at Twitter and

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<v Speaker 1>people are just, oh my gosh, this is the best

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<v Speaker 1>season ever. This is just like back in the good

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<v Speaker 1>old days. Last season was boring, but this seat is great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, I'm happy for you, right, I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>happy for you, and I'm very happy for everybody involved

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<v Speaker 1>in only murders in the building who seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>having a great time with this. You go, guys, not

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll keep watching it, but it's just, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>just it just feels like we're not getting anywhere, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I returned to the after party, which we enjoyed a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like, yeah, you always knew that whoever

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<v Speaker 2>you were focusing on in that episode didn't do it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, then they would move on to someone else,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, I don't know, this doesn't have the same

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<v Speaker 2>zing or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't. It just it feels so self referential and

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<v Speaker 1>self indulgent that it's not entertaining to me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, I'll watch it, and goodness, it's a half

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. I can it's you know, everybody involved is

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<v Speaker 1>very talented, they're very enjoyable to watch. But it just

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<v Speaker 1>felt myself all the way through going really yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not the way I want to feel when

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<v Speaker 1>I watch this show, right, I want to be happy,

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<v Speaker 1>not resigned.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it has its moments where you it

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<v Speaker 2>makes you laugh, and you know, I still enjoy the

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<v Speaker 2>the three of them together and the sort of parent

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<v Speaker 2>child flipping back and forth relationship, even.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems to have gotten a little self referential too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like, look at these old guys. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>Were they always quite that idiotic? I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>They just seem to have turned up the knob on

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<v Speaker 1>that well.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's also like very inconsistent right out last week.

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<v Speaker 2>How you know, Oliver can't figure out he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 2>that Siri's name is Siri, and he yells at his

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<v Speaker 2>iPad to turn off the brightness, but yet he knows

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<v Speaker 2>to create a fake Instagram, right, And then this time

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh he just we just sent him

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<v Speaker 2>off to print out stuff from his phone, from Charles' phone, Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they came back as like photographs on glossy paper.

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<v Speaker 1>How I don't know how to do that he has

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of a printer or I mean, I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>I could take my phone down to FedEx's office and say,

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<v Speaker 1>can you make them look like photographs so I can

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<v Speaker 1>put them on my murder board? But would Oliver write, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is inconsistent. And hey John McEnroe wandering through playing

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>That was It's just like thirty seconds of okay, fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to go on IMDBN say is that who

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is? Oh yeah, well of course it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they can get him for a walkthrough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, problem also lampooning himself, which is all he ever does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, easily done, Yeah, and done many many times.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's just like there were so many bits of business.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're just going to stop everything to do

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<v Speaker 1>this little funny thing. And Paul runs back again, right,

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, right, had a good time the first time through?

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<v Speaker 4>Did ya still missing that tooth?

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<v Speaker 1>I just I enjoyed last season. I didn't have this

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<v Speaker 1>problem with it, although looking back I can see that

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<v Speaker 1>theater wise it was probably similarly, you know, lampoo of

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, I think maybe is that Meryl Streep

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<v Speaker 1>and Paul Rudd weren't playing themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they were.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing characters, and the characters, especially Meryl Streep's character was

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<v Speaker 1>not turned up that high, and Paul Rudds was, but

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't in it that much. There was that one

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<v Speaker 1>thing with Matthew Broderick playing himself that I thought worked

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<v Speaker 1>really well and was really funny, but it was one

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<v Speaker 1>episode and one segment. It was not the entire This

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<v Speaker 1>is like taking that and making it the centerpiece of

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<v Speaker 1>your seasons. Yeah, do you have a mystery? Is the

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<v Speaker 1>centerpiece of the season, and then the rest of this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff just flavors.

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<v Speaker 4>It, right, Right, that's the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like such a grouch people, We're so happy. Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I the enemy of fun? Catherine? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're having fun playing with zach alliphan Akis's name,

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<v Speaker 1>who could not be there for mister anaphylax, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I see what they're doing there and hmmm, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the shoot not being sure that the gun,

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<v Speaker 1>not thinking that the gun was loaded when she shot

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<v Speaker 1>it was an Alec bald One reference. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>felt like it was oh gosh, maybe a little drive by.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's pretty pretty harsh.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm reading too much in, but it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be inviting us to read stuff in. Please read things

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<v Speaker 1>in everywhere, right, we're putting it out.

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<v Speaker 2>There, well, especially just that character. Yeah, the producer, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh she's being very hard Molly. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a little less caffeine in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, the whole thing of like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>what are your ideas? Oh well you don't really need

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<v Speaker 2>an idea, you just need you know, of.

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<v Speaker 4>Wok.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, podcast what a racket, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And my ball being like surprised to be like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my job podcast produced.

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<v Speaker 1>See, like you can have all parenting podcasts, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be about parenting. You can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows three episodes a week.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at that?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is our check?

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<v Speaker 4>Where is our movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Again?

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<v Speaker 4>We say yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Over here, we're asking once it would be much more entertaining.

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<v Speaker 4>M Yeah, I don't know how many.

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<v Speaker 1>More episodes to it is Tannel don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see, let's just check that out really quick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ten, so we're halfway through, yep, or not quite.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the fifth.

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<v Speaker 4>This was the fifth, so it was the halfway point.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking if Paul Rudd could come back as his

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<v Speaker 1>stunt double, his character's stunt double, could sas like have

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<v Speaker 1>a twin sister who just turns up and everybody's oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's it's bizzazz sister.

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<v Speaker 4>Bizzazz I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you'd think that they wouldn't return to

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<v Speaker 2>that well after they just did it with Paul Rudd,

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<v Speaker 2>But I certainly wouldn't put it past them at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think that this that only murders in the

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<v Speaker 1>building is at this point. At the I wouldn't put

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<v Speaker 1>them past them point. They will do whatever the bleep

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<v Speaker 1>they want, right and you will like it, or otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>you will be that grouch on the internet, so then

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<v Speaker 1>they will make fun of you. Somebody wrote a bad

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<v Speaker 1>tweet about us?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so is it good? They're not listening to.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's listening to us, but bots, so we're pretty safe.

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<v Speaker 4>I okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And what are we to make of the writer who

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<v Speaker 2>needs to wear a fake beard in order to.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering why he wasn't just growing himself his

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<v Speaker 1>own beard he has. I guess that's a thing. He

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<v Speaker 1>can't grow one, but he desperately needs to look like

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Kaufman to fit in with the title of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>bing adaptations, right, alrighty, then, I don't know. I got

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<v Speaker 1>tired of him about two thirds of the way through

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<v Speaker 1>and wished he would just shut up. So maybe somebody

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<v Speaker 1>will wish you just shut up and pulled a bullet

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<v Speaker 1>in him. Who knows? Just you know writers, I'm all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, and just like the eagerness and the earnestness,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know what writers are lying, right. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>people like this episode. Just I just edited my substack

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<v Speaker 1>fifty times.

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<v Speaker 2>I read the FuG Girls, the go FuG yourself Girls

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<v Speaker 2>in their newsletter, in their subtact they are recapping only murders,

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<v Speaker 2>but after we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Dang, so we can't steal from them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well but they mean no not I forget which one

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<v Speaker 2>it was, but they said one of the same things you.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I love them.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not helpful. Let me see if I can

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<v Speaker 4>quickly remember what that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Our podcast producer will cut that all out. Yeah, let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I am. Me and Mabel it.

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<v Speaker 4>Must have been. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was something about maybe dude off or something.

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<v Speaker 4>The uh, the Westies.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, point being that they're enjoyable the their recaps

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't hesitate.

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<v Speaker 4>To Oh good, they don't pull their punches if.

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<v Speaker 1>Something screenshot them and sent them to me because I

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<v Speaker 1>stopped paying. It's like I have mixed I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be somebody in the building or the

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Westies or something. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>something in the New York world that winds up being

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<v Speaker 1>the killer and not something to having to do without

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<v Speaker 1>all all this movie stuff. But then if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be mad that we wasted so much time

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<v Speaker 1>on all this movie stuff because it really was just, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's make fun of Hollywood. Yeah, so you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out to all the related to the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's not really the same show. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, It's fine. I'm fine, everything is fine. You

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<v Speaker 1>can do whatever they want. They are talented and popular

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<v Speaker 1>and if they're having a good time, who am I

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<v Speaker 1>to say? Cut it out? But when's Loretta coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>Get her away from her honky co star, right? I

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<v Speaker 1>want me some Meryl Streep to bring a little balance.

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<v Speaker 1>Meryl Street playing a character, yes, not herself, not herself.

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<v Speaker 1>That wouldn't that be fun if she also is playing herself?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh boy?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's what this episode was all about, right,

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<v Speaker 2>all the mirrors, mirrors and suplicates and adaptations and yahda YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>Two people committing a crime in two parts.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, what parenting can we say about this? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we have Detective Williams returning to cast a stern eye

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<v Speaker 2>upon her little charges and tell them to get it together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's gonna be my my, my character in this

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<v Speaker 1>just going You're just being ridiculous, right, stop what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like focus, focus, focus person.

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<v Speaker 4>She is definitely playing that.

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<v Speaker 1>She will be the mom. And you know, we can

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<v Speaker 1>relate somewhat to Mabel's young adult aimlessness and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to have a career but not really sure what

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<v Speaker 1>it is she's even doing. Right, And even though she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing it successfully enough to get a very large check

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<v Speaker 1>and to have a Hollywood person saying, hey, come run

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<v Speaker 1>your scam with us.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be great.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's not satisfied with that. She wants to actually

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<v Speaker 1>know who she is and what she is A difficult time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids, you know, at a much lower level, I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose have gone through that, and I recall, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in my day as well, so parents wise, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>for her, and I feel like saying, Mabel, you put

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<v Speaker 1>that check down on the couch, did you pick it

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<v Speaker 1>up before you look through? Don't put that in the

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<v Speaker 1>bank right away, young lady. But part of it in savings. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you can buy yourself a new phone, but no more.

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<v Speaker 1>Put the rest of it in savings. Buy yourself an apartment?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you look? Did you are you pricing condos? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you ask for enough that you could buy yourself a

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like she did.

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<v Speaker 1>She does not have a mature person guiding her.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she certainly doesn't, because Oliver and Charles are not

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<v Speaker 4>Detective Williams what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>She needs to ask Detective Williams for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>As she just knows a real estate that's right, or

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<v Speaker 2>a financial.

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<v Speaker 1>That made me. The check sitting on the couch made

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<v Speaker 1>me very nervous. I would have liked to have seen

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<v Speaker 1>her picking it up and putting it in her Does

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<v Speaker 1>she have a bag I don't know in her pocket

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<v Speaker 1>at least? And then on the way to whatever mischief

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<v Speaker 1>they were getting into, stop at the bank deposited immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably too big a check to deposit with your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably have to bring it there personally. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just leave it sitting in the couch in

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<v Speaker 4>Or in your checking account.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, yeah, definitely not in your check you're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything for you. Go open a nice CD, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a an IRA of some sort, maybe you know, an

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<v Speaker 4>Something I.

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<v Speaker 1>Suns me very nervous, and just the whole Is this

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<v Speaker 1>the way? I guess they have to I guess have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the people off for their rights before they

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<v Speaker 1>make the movie. But I would have liked to have

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<v Speaker 1>known how much each of them?

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<v Speaker 4>How much?

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<v Speaker 1>How much do you get for selling your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>They can just now use them as characters in anything,

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything at any time, right, propsimbly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, I mean remember what this sage advice of

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<v Speaker 2>Eva Angloria, which was, you know, like make it enough

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<v Speaker 2>so that you can do what you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, That is true, even if it's you know, making

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<v Speaker 1>commercials and guesting on TV shows where you make funny yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you have enough. I've had about enough for this week,

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<v Speaker 1>how about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we'll stop there, but next week we'll be back.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll discuss the next episode called blow up, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 2>I don't recall a movie of that title.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there was, Okay, there was a movie called Blowout

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<v Speaker 1>that was about a sound person and I think they

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<v Speaker 1>made no which came first. Look this up on IMDb

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<v Speaker 1>other one. One of them had John Travolta in It

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<v Speaker 1>was a very long time ago. Okay, blow up was

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<v Speaker 1>the first okay, And I think blowout is this incellency? Okay? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is okay. This was in nineteen nineteen sixty six

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<v Speaker 1>movie Okay, starring David Hemmings and Vanessa Redgrave, And the

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<v Speaker 1>short description of it here in IUDB, which sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you could well apply to the episode we're going to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a fashion photographer unknowingly captures a death on film

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<v Speaker 1>aah after following two lovers in a park. There we

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<v Speaker 1>go remade later on with John Travolta. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>as a sound engineer who captures these sounds of a murder,

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<v Speaker 1>but blow up is it's ANTONIONI film got it? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>That is the name of next week's episode, numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles was taking all those pictures. Yes, I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>it has anything to do.

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<v Speaker 2>With that, but also so worthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, they took like five minutes on that gag, so

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<v Speaker 1>it would be good if it worked out for something else. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was ponderous, even as he was doing it the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way and then he had to do it again

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<v Speaker 1>at the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we got a podcast to record.

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<v Speaker 2>Coright, and we will see you back here tomorrow for

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<v Speaker 2>our weekly Roundabout roundup.

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