Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of September sixteenth,
Speaker 2: we are discussing season four, episode five of Only Murders
Speaker 2: in the Building.
Speaker 3: It is called Adaptation, and basically it just was like
Speaker 3: a giant circle because we started with someone holding a
Speaker 3: gun and it turned out to be nothing, and then yes,
Speaker 3: by the end of the episode, gunshots again, like another cliffhanger,
Speaker 3: exactly like the one we did had before.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, I am feeling like such a grinch this
Speaker 1: season because I'm just not feeling this. Yeah, it just
Speaker 1: seems so self indulgent. I mean, I'm very happy for
Speaker 1: Eva Longoria that she wants to get out there and
Speaker 1: lampoon herself, but I don't really care. Yeah, I'll follow
Speaker 1: her that much. If I were a big fan of hers,
Speaker 1: I would probably be going, Whooo, look at that. But okay,
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. I look at Twitter and
Speaker 1: people are just, oh my gosh, this is the best
Speaker 1: season ever. This is just like back in the good
Speaker 1: old days. Last season was boring, but this seat is great.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm happy for you, right, I'm very
Speaker 1: happy for you, and I'm very happy for everybody involved
Speaker 1: in only murders in the building who seems to be
Speaker 1: having a great time with this. You go, guys, not
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep watching it, but it's just, yeah, it
Speaker 2: just it just feels like we're not getting anywhere, you know.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 2: I returned to the after party, which we enjoyed a lot,
Speaker 2: and it was like, yeah, you always knew that whoever
Speaker 2: you were focusing on in that episode didn't do it, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you know, then they would move on to someone else,
Speaker 2: but like, I don't know, this doesn't have the same
Speaker 2: zing or something.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It just it feels so self referential and
Speaker 1: self indulgent that it's not entertaining to me. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's fine, I'll watch it, and goodness, it's a half
Speaker 1: an hour. I can it's you know, everybody involved is
Speaker 1: very talented, they're very enjoyable to watch. But it just
Speaker 1: felt myself all the way through going really yeah, so,
Speaker 1: and that's not the way I want to feel when
Speaker 1: I watch this show, right, I want to be happy,
Speaker 1: not resigned.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it has its moments where you it
Speaker 2: makes you laugh, and you know, I still enjoy the
Speaker 2: the three of them together and the sort of parent
Speaker 2: child flipping back and forth relationship, even.
Speaker 1: That seems to have gotten a little self referential too.
Speaker 1: It's just like, look at these old guys. Look at
Speaker 1: Were they always quite that idiotic? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: They just seem to have turned up the knob on
Speaker 1: that well.
Speaker 2: And it's also like very inconsistent right out last week.
Speaker 2: How you know, Oliver can't figure out he doesn't know
Speaker 2: that Siri's name is Siri, and he yells at his
Speaker 2: iPad to turn off the brightness, but yet he knows
Speaker 2: to create a fake Instagram, right, And then this time
Speaker 2: it was like, oh he just we just sent him
Speaker 2: off to print out stuff from his phone, from Charles' phone, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: And then they came back as like photographs on glossy paper.
Speaker 1: How I don't know how to do that he has
Speaker 1: that kind of a printer or I mean, I suppose
Speaker 1: I could take my phone down to FedEx's office and say,
Speaker 1: can you make them look like photographs so I can
Speaker 1: put them on my murder board? But would Oliver write, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is inconsistent. And hey John McEnroe wandering through playing
Speaker 1: a grouch?
Speaker 4: Yeah, whoa.
Speaker 2: That was It's just like thirty seconds of okay, fine.
Speaker 1: I had to go on IMDBN say is that who
Speaker 1: I think that is? Oh yeah, well of course it is.
Speaker 1: Of course they can get him for a walkthrough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, problem also lampooning himself, which is all he ever does.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, easily done, Yeah, and done many many times.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just like there were so many bits of business.
Speaker 1: You know, we're just going to stop everything to do
Speaker 1: this little funny thing. And Paul runs back again, right,
Speaker 1: hey man, right, had a good time the first time through?
Speaker 4: Did ya still missing that tooth?
Speaker 1: I just I enjoyed last season. I didn't have this
Speaker 1: problem with it, although looking back I can see that
Speaker 1: theater wise it was probably similarly, you know, lampoo of
Speaker 1: part of it, I think maybe is that Meryl Streep
Speaker 1: and Paul Rudd weren't playing themselves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 1: Playing characters, and the characters, especially Meryl Streep's character was
Speaker 1: not turned up that high, and Paul Rudds was, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't in it that much. There was that one
Speaker 1: thing with Matthew Broderick playing himself that I thought worked
Speaker 1: really well and was really funny, but it was one
Speaker 1: episode and one segment. It was not the entire This
Speaker 1: is like taking that and making it the centerpiece of
Speaker 1: your seasons. Yeah, do you have a mystery? Is the
Speaker 1: centerpiece of the season, and then the rest of this
Speaker 1: stuff just flavors.
Speaker 4: It, right, Right, that's the idea.
Speaker 1: They're like such a grouch people, We're so happy. Why
Speaker 1: am I the enemy of fun? Catherine? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean they're having fun playing with zach alliphan Akis's name,
Speaker 1: who could not be there for mister anaphylax, so you know,
Speaker 1: it's I see what they're doing there and hmmm, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the shoot not being sure that the gun,
Speaker 1: not thinking that the gun was loaded when she shot
Speaker 1: it was an Alec bald One reference. I thought it
Speaker 1: felt like it was oh gosh, maybe a little drive by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's pretty pretty harsh.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm reading too much in, but it seems to
Speaker 1: be inviting us to read stuff in. Please read things
Speaker 1: in everywhere, right, we're putting it out.
Speaker 2: There, well, especially just that character. Yeah, the producer, you know.
Speaker 1: Like, oh she's being very hard Molly. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little less caffeine in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, the whole thing of like, oh
Speaker 2: what are your ideas? Oh well you don't really need
Speaker 2: an idea, you just need you know, of.
Speaker 4: Wok.
Speaker 1: Yeah, podcast what a racket, right.
Speaker 2: And my ball being like surprised to be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my job podcast produced.
Speaker 1: See, like you can have all parenting podcasts, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be about parenting. You can talk about
Speaker 1: TV shows three episodes a week.
Speaker 4: Look at that?
Speaker 1: Where is our check?
Speaker 4: Where is our movie?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 4: We say yes?
Speaker 1: Over here, we're asking once it would be much more entertaining.
Speaker 4: M Yeah, I don't know how many.
Speaker 1: More episodes to it is Tannel don't know.
Speaker 4: Let's see, let's just check that out really quick.
Speaker 1: It's ten, so we're halfway through, yep, or not quite.
Speaker 1: This was the fifth.
Speaker 4: This was the fifth, so it was the halfway point.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking if Paul Rudd could come back as his
Speaker 1: stunt double, his character's stunt double, could sas like have
Speaker 1: a twin sister who just turns up and everybody's oh no,
Speaker 1: it's not it's it's bizzazz sister.
Speaker 4: Bizzazz I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you'd think that they wouldn't return to
Speaker 2: that well after they just did it with Paul Rudd,
Speaker 2: But I certainly wouldn't put it past them at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that this that only murders in the
Speaker 1: building is at this point. At the I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: them past them point. They will do whatever the bleep
Speaker 1: they want, right and you will like it, or otherwise
Speaker 1: you will be that grouch on the internet, so then
Speaker 1: they will make fun of you. Somebody wrote a bad
Speaker 1: tweet about us?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so is it good? They're not listening to.
Speaker 1: Nobody's listening to us, but bots, so we're pretty safe.
Speaker 4: I okay.
Speaker 2: And what are we to make of the writer who
Speaker 2: needs to wear a fake beard in order to.
Speaker 1: I was wondering why he wasn't just growing himself his
Speaker 1: own beard he has. I guess that's a thing. He
Speaker 1: can't grow one, but he desperately needs to look like
Speaker 1: Charlie Kaufman to fit in with the title of this episode,
Speaker 1: bing adaptations, right, alrighty, then, I don't know. I got
Speaker 1: tired of him about two thirds of the way through
Speaker 1: and wished he would just shut up. So maybe somebody
Speaker 1: will wish you just shut up and pulled a bullet
Speaker 1: in him. Who knows? Just you know writers, I'm all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and just like the eagerness and the earnestness,
Speaker 2: like I don't know.
Speaker 1: We all know what writers are lying, right. I hope
Speaker 1: people like this episode. Just I just edited my substack
Speaker 1: fifty times.
Speaker 2: I read the FuG Girls, the go FuG yourself Girls
Speaker 2: in their newsletter, in their subtact they are recapping only murders,
Speaker 2: but after we do.
Speaker 1: Dang, so we can't steal from them.
Speaker 2: Well but they mean no not I forget which one
Speaker 2: it was, but they said one of the same things you.
Speaker 1: Then I love them.
Speaker 4: This is not helpful. Let me see if I can
Speaker 4: quickly remember what that was.
Speaker 1: Our podcast producer will cut that all out. Yeah, let's see,
Speaker 1: that's what I am. Me and Mabel it.
Speaker 4: Must have been. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was something about maybe dude off or something.
Speaker 4: The uh, the Westies.
Speaker 2: So anyway, point being that they're enjoyable the their recaps
Speaker 2: because they don't hesitate.
Speaker 4: To Oh good, they don't pull their punches if.
Speaker 1: Something screenshot them and sent them to me because I
Speaker 1: stopped paying. It's like I have mixed I feel like
Speaker 1: I wanted to be somebody in the building or the
Speaker 1: one of the Westies or something. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: something in the New York world that winds up being
Speaker 1: the killer and not something to having to do without
Speaker 1: all all this movie stuff. But then if that's the case,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be mad that we wasted so much time
Speaker 1: on all this movie stuff because it really was just, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's make fun of Hollywood. Yeah, so you know, if
Speaker 1: it turns out to all the related to the movie,
Speaker 1: then it's not really the same show. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, It's fine. I'm fine, everything is fine. You
Speaker 1: can do whatever they want. They are talented and popular
Speaker 1: and if they're having a good time, who am I
Speaker 1: to say? Cut it out? But when's Loretta coming back?
Speaker 1: Get her away from her honky co star, right? I
Speaker 1: want me some Meryl Streep to bring a little balance.
Speaker 1: Meryl Street playing a character, yes, not herself, not herself.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't that be fun if she also is playing herself?
Speaker 4: Oh boy?
Speaker 2: I mean that's what this episode was all about, right,
Speaker 2: all the mirrors, mirrors and suplicates and adaptations and yahda YadA.
Speaker 1: Two people committing a crime in two parts.
Speaker 2: So well, what parenting can we say about this? Well,
Speaker 2: we have Detective Williams returning to cast a stern eye
Speaker 2: upon her little charges and tell them to get it together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's gonna be my my, my character in this
Speaker 1: just going You're just being ridiculous, right, stop what you're doing.
Speaker 1: She's like focus, focus, focus person.
Speaker 4: She is definitely playing that.
Speaker 1: She will be the mom. And you know, we can
Speaker 1: relate somewhat to Mabel's young adult aimlessness and you know,
Speaker 1: wanting to have a career but not really sure what
Speaker 1: it is she's even doing. Right, And even though she's
Speaker 1: doing it successfully enough to get a very large check
Speaker 1: and to have a Hollywood person saying, hey, come run
Speaker 1: your scam with us.
Speaker 4: It'll be great.
Speaker 1: But she's not satisfied with that. She wants to actually
Speaker 1: know who she is and what she is A difficult time, right,
Speaker 1: my kids, you know, at a much lower level, I
Speaker 1: suppose have gone through that, and I recall, you know,
Speaker 1: in my day as well, so parents wise, I feel
Speaker 1: for her, and I feel like saying, Mabel, you put
Speaker 1: that check down on the couch, did you pick it
Speaker 1: up before you look through? Don't put that in the
Speaker 1: bank right away, young lady. But part of it in savings. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can buy yourself a new phone, but no more.
Speaker 1: Put the rest of it in savings. Buy yourself an apartment?
Speaker 1: Did you look? Did you are you pricing condos? Did
Speaker 1: you ask for enough that you could buy yourself a
Speaker 1: nice unit somewhere?
Speaker 4: Sounds like she did.
Speaker 1: She does not have a mature person guiding her.
Speaker 2: No, she certainly doesn't, because Oliver and Charles are not
Speaker 2: about to play no.
Speaker 4: Detective Williams what to do.
Speaker 1: She needs to ask Detective Williams for sure.
Speaker 2: As she just knows a real estate that's right, or
Speaker 2: a financial.
Speaker 1: That made me. The check sitting on the couch made
Speaker 1: me very nervous. I would have liked to have seen
Speaker 1: her picking it up and putting it in her Does
Speaker 1: she have a bag I don't know in her pocket
Speaker 1: at least? And then on the way to whatever mischief
Speaker 1: they were getting into, stop at the bank deposited immediately.
Speaker 1: Probably too big a check to deposit with your phone.
Speaker 1: You probably have to bring it there personally. I'm glad
Speaker 1: I don't just leave it sitting in the couch in
Speaker 1: somebody's apartment.
Speaker 4: Or in your checking account.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, yeah, definitely not in your check you're not
Speaker 1: doing anything for you. Go open a nice CD, maybe
Speaker 1: a an IRA of some sort, maybe you know, an
Speaker 1: investment account.
Speaker 4: Something I.
Speaker 1: Suns me very nervous, and just the whole Is this
Speaker 1: the way? I guess they have to I guess have
Speaker 1: to pay the people off for their rights before they
Speaker 1: make the movie. But I would have liked to have
Speaker 1: known how much each of them?
Speaker 4: How much?
Speaker 1: How much do you get for selling your life?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They can just now use them as characters in anything,
Speaker 1: doing anything at any time, right, propsimbly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean remember what this sage advice of
Speaker 2: Eva Angloria, which was, you know, like make it enough
Speaker 2: so that you can do what you want to do.
Speaker 1: Right, That is true, even if it's you know, making
Speaker 1: commercials and guesting on TV shows where you make funny yourself.
Speaker 1: Sure you have enough. I've had about enough for this week,
Speaker 1: how about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll stop there, but next week we'll be back.
Speaker 2: We'll discuss the next episode called blow up, yeah, which
Speaker 2: I don't recall a movie of that title.
Speaker 1: Yes, there was, Okay, there was a movie called Blowout
Speaker 1: that was about a sound person and I think they
Speaker 1: made no which came first. Look this up on IMDb
Speaker 1: because I don't remember which one was driven of the
Speaker 1: other one. One of them had John Travolta in It
Speaker 1: was a very long time ago. Okay, blow up was
Speaker 1: the first okay, And I think blowout is this incellency? Okay? Yes,
Speaker 1: this is okay. This was in nineteen nineteen sixty six
Speaker 1: movie Okay, starring David Hemmings and Vanessa Redgrave, And the
Speaker 1: short description of it here in IUDB, which sounds like
Speaker 1: you could well apply to the episode we're going to watch.
Speaker 1: Is a fashion photographer unknowingly captures a death on film
Speaker 1: aah after following two lovers in a park. There we
Speaker 1: go remade later on with John Travolta. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: as a sound engineer who captures these sounds of a murder,
Speaker 1: but blow up is it's ANTONIONI film got it? Well?
Speaker 2: That is the name of next week's episode, numbers.
Speaker 1: Charles was taking all those pictures. Yes, I wonder if
Speaker 1: it has anything to do.
Speaker 2: With that, but also so worthy.
Speaker 1: Boy, they took like five minutes on that gag, so
Speaker 1: it would be good if it worked out for something else. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was ponderous, even as he was doing it the
Speaker 1: wrong way and then he had to do it again
Speaker 1: at the right way.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we got a podcast to record.
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