Speaker 1: All right, welcome here everyone. It is Feast week.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we've got like fifteen sixteen dollars of
basketball for like the next three or four days. It's
gonna be awesome, tons of games. Welcome in, Brian Power,
Rob Vino, hope you guys had a great weekend. No
time to mess around with this late though, so I'm
going to bring you right in, Brian Power.
Speaker 1: I know you are are just thrilled.
Speaker 2: About this format that they've got going on in Las
Vegas for the players era, So let's talk about it.
Let's start Alabama Gonzaga, and if you want to throw
some shade at whoever made this thing, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Also, you don't like the so you don't like the format.
Speaker 1: It's one of the worst. It's one of the worst
formats I've ever seen for a tournament. But I like
that we're getting these matchups.
Speaker 3: I'll say, before we get into it, do you want
to clarify for the people, for the people to home
who may not understand, because yeah, it was because the
teams already know who they're playing tomorrow. Yeah, it's a
different format than last year, so we should clarify that.
Speaker 2: I think what clarify it. For me, I don't even
know what the hell is going on.
Speaker 3: So there are there's there's multiple games already set and
then I guess it's just based on how you do
in the No, I'm not being helped helped captive by you, bets.
I am on the road at my brother in laws.
Please everyone bear with me with a setup. But uh, yeah,
it's a different word. There's already it's not a win
in Advanced necessarily because teams aren't. And for me, I
was it already affects my handicap for Rutgers Tennessee. But
the teams know who they're playing tomorrow already, Rob d
are you one hundred percent sure how this works? Either?
Like I was looking for some clarification either. I saw
tomorrow's games are scheduled, but after that I was a
little unclear how they they fit the consolation and the
winner's advanced bracket.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I dug this morning, Brian, honestly, because I
was like, well, do they play at opposite venues tomorrow?
I mean, the venues are close enough to it, and
sometimes in these Las Vegas tournaments you do get a
switch of venues. But I couldn't find anything other than
who they're gonna play today, who they're gonna play tomorrow,
whether or not there even is a legit quarter.
Speaker 5: Final, semi final, championship.
Speaker 4: All the team's schedules when I looked, don't indicate any
games after the second game, So I was wondering, does
that mean they just don't know the opponent or I
mean it would at least yes, Las Vegas, Nevada on Wednesday,
Las Vegas, Nevada on Thursday.
Speaker 5: Whatever.
Speaker 4: So if this is just a two win out to
give every single team a million dollars in nil money,
then you know, so be right.
Speaker 5: But with Adam, go ahead, Brian.
Speaker 3: Just to clarify, So every team's gonna play three games,
and the third game is based on your record in
the first two. Now I would assume that some team,
So I don't know that. If you want to, guys,
I'm just gonna come out and say if you want.
If you're looking for answers on how these tie breaks
are gonna work, I don't have them for you. Right now.
Speaker 5: When everybody's one and one, I'm.
Speaker 3: In a random basement on the other of the state
right now, I'm just trying to plug in and broadcast game.
Speaker 5: It's hard. It's hard to figure out what's going on there.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, same with me that they actually put odds
out for like who wins this thing? And I was like,
how and how could you even bet that? Like, I
feel like I feel like there's I don't know if
everyone has like I think there could be teams that
are potentially two and oh that can't like play for
the final.
Speaker 1: So again, I'm not gonna waste any more time on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just wanted to bring it up.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting concept. I think it's a poorly executed format.
But the only thing that matters here is we get
some really good games and that's where we're gonna start today.
Arguably the best game on the slate, in my opinion,
is at the Players Era tonight Alabama Gonzaga. So right
back to you, Brian Power the Zags a favorite here
in Vegas? Do you agree or disagree?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I agree that they should be favorite. Do I want
to lay it? I don't want to take it. I
know that. I mean, you're gonna expect points here. I mean, look,
right now, I've got Gonzaga power rated number two behind Duke,
I believe. Let me just double check that, make sure
nothing's changed. But yeah, I've got Gonzaga power rated number two.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: We know Alabama. We've talked about Alabama already this year.
UH and I we're gonna expect points I think in
this game.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: With with Gonzaga, I think the issue is have they
been tested? Alabama's been tested, That's what I was trying
to stammer out there. They've played Illinois and Purdue and
Saint John's their last. What a what a run that
is of four games you go, Saint John's, Purdue, Illinois, Gonzaga.
Those are four top ten according to my power rings.
I mean, my god. You talk about Alabama football playing
the having the number one strength of schedule in the country.
Alabama basketball right now has maybe the toughest strength of
schedule in the first two weeks I've ever seen. So
we know they're battle tested. Gonzaga not so much. They
did blow Creighton's doors off in the second half. I
believe one of you guys can correct me if I'm wrong.
The game was close at halftime and then the Zags
just blew their door off over the last twenty minutes.
So I absolutely believe and agree with the fact in
Zaga laying four and a half. I'm a little higher
than that, but not enough that makes me want to
slam the Zags in that situation. I apologize for that
for weaseling out of a pick here, but Gonzag is
a deserve favorite. I just I think the concern is,
you know, Alabama's been tested where they haven't whereas the
Zags haven't been tested as much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's the first thing you go to,
right bro.
Speaker 4: I look at the schedule Alabama's played it currently, depending
upon where you're looking, they sit around number three in
the country and strength of schedule play, and I'm sure
somebody out of the swack has played a tougher schedule. Yeah,
that's a good point, but for power teams, and Alabama's
been all over the map doing it Madison Square, Garden,
United Center, Home, Las Vegas, They're all over the place
for me, and I do agree laying three and a
half is a lot better than laying four and a half.
But still it's hard for me to get to Alabama
because guys, I think these rebounding issues are gonna come
up again. Remember last time we talked about Alabama Illinois
and how NATO's was so pissy after they got crushed
on the boards by Purdue fifty two to twenty eight,
and then they came back and played Illinois, and I
remember talking that day and saying, you know, Illinois didn't
exactly crush Texas Tech on the board, so maybe Bama
has a chance. And they did have a chance forty
to thirty eight on the boards in that game. They
only lost by two in rebound margin, and they win
ninety to eighty six in the United Center.
Speaker 5: But I don't know that that happens here.
Speaker 4: Gonzaga is one of the best rebounding teams in the
country actually by metrics, better than Purdue and far superior
to Purdue on the defensive rebounding, So a lot of
one and ounce maybe Forbama, who if their threes aren't falling,
you know, could be problematic. In a lot of ways,
these teams are similar. They both shoot the three at
the same exact percentage. They both want paced. They both
on the defensive end slow teams down a little bit
to get off a shot, while on the offensive end
they want to run, run, run, but.
Speaker 5: More edges for the Zags.
Speaker 4: Their three point defense is far superior so far, and
beyond that Alabama. Neither of these teams turns the ball over.
Real good ball protection, but surprisingly Alabama doesn't force any turnovers. Hey,
what are they doing over there? They should be forcing turnovers,
that's their style. They haven't Gonzaga has. I think when
I first looked at it, Brian, my initial reaction was,
you know, Bbama's far more tested. But when you go
back and look at the Creightons, the Oklahomas that Gonzaga's played,
you can find one comp game where we're talking about
the the rebounding and that's Arizona State. Arizona State now
Alabama almost identical rebounding numbers, and in that game, Gonzaga
out rebounded him by fourteen on the road, won the
game by twelve. Arizona State certainly is not in Alabama's
offensive league, but I still think it means something here.
And this is the thing with Alabama. We're kind of
sea sawing each and every game with them because I
think the matchup absolutely makes what's gonna happen on the court.
The reality worked in Saint John's, didn't work against Purdue.
Speaker 5: Worked it in Illinois. I don't know that it works
against Gonzaga, so I think I would lay.
Speaker 4: And as for the total, I mean one way tickety
that you play over you don't play at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it would be a very miserable two hour experience.
I think watching this game and betting under two things
are one thing that I wanted to bring up. Not
only has Bama had this really tough schedule, this will
be their four straight ten top ten opponent. Gonzaga has
been off for a week, so I mean that that
is a just massive, massive scheduling edge for this. I mean,
or I mean you could you could argue, I guess
you know, if you're wearing Crimson, you're gonna probably argue, well,
we're battle tested, we're ready for this. You know this
is you know, nobody cries about this in March, whereas
maybe Gonzag is a little bit rusty.
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I really think fan base wise it lean
towards Gonzaga here pretty heavily.
Speaker 1: Don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm Thanksgiving week.
Speaker 4: If folks from Tuscaloosa want to travel to Las Vegas,
I really don't think that's gonna happen. Where Gonzaga has
got kind of a built in fan base day. They're
in Las Vegas a lot. So what game I think
it was the Year Zona game, right when they were
playing in Las Vegas, way back to the beginning of
the year. We talked about it and it turned out
to come true against Florida.
Speaker 5: So maybe the fans help here too.
Speaker 3: And by you actually clarified, he's correct that scoring differential
is what matters. That this is something obviously you know
you hear about this in the NBA Cup rob as well. Uh,
you know, scoring differential matters, So at the end of games,
teams are just gonna still be trying because that's gonna
that's the tiebreak is point differential. So there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And of course they the WCC plays a conference
tournament in Vegas, so they're always there. In March, they
probably I mean I would say they play what three
four or five games a year in Vegas usually, like
even without this tournament, whether it's a standalone at te Mobile,
you know, they've had plenty of games in Vegas, And yeah,
I would agree that they have some fan base there.
I rarely come on here with like a like a
totals opinion.
Speaker 1: I'm just I've said this a million times.
Speaker 2: It's just not really like how handicap it's I don't
know when the last time a game out of total
for a client play was, but sometimes they catch my eye.
This one, like the I had a feeling the over
or the opener was too low. It looks like the
market has suggested that is the case. Now up to
one seventy six.
Speaker 1: I've got this.
Speaker 2: I've got this in like the one eighties, like the
low one eighties. So I guess the one thing I'll
point out which would point me toward the over. Here
where I think Zaga probably wins this game if they do,
is is the ability to score up front. I'm not
sure Alabama's post defense is going to be able to
hold up against Gonzaga. The other thing that makes me
think that this one probably soars over is Purdue was
really able to slow down Bama, which is which is
really the reason they lost that game. And you talk
about early in the season and being tested, well, we've
now seen Alabama play four games.
Speaker 1: One was obviously a cupcake against.
Speaker 2: North Dakota, but the Saint John's game, Neil Illinois game,
I felt like Alabama was able to sort of instill
the game that they wanted to play into the game,
and then you had a ninety to eighty six final
with Illinois, who was actively trying to slow them down,
the game that there was a team that was willing
to go with them a little bit. Saint John's over
two hundred points in the game, close to two hundred
points one oh three to ninety six final. I don't
think Gonzaga is going to really mind playing faster here, right, Like,
I don't think they like, I mean maybe that like
it's hard to know what, like what they're gonna do.
Certainly I think they want to get the ball inside.
But Gonzaga can play fast. I mean, we've almost seen
Gonzaga at times go back to previous years, and this
maybe was with some of the teams that weren't quite
as good in recent years. I almost felt like they
would play too fast, Like sometimes Gonzaga gets themselves out
of sorts by trying to play way too fast, which
is why I don't know if I have much of
an opinion on the side, but feel like one eighties
like a no brainer, Like this is going to get
to one eighty, no problem. So my leen would be
over all right, let's keep it. Let's go ahead and
be DP where you gonna.
Speaker 3: My last thing I was the last thing I was gonna.
As far as the side goes, I think this game
is largely determined by can the Zags turn Bama over?
The Zags obviously, you look at these margins of victories
they've produced against uh, what we'll call lesser team, certainly
lesser opponents compared to Alabama. Uh, the margins of victory
have really been predicated on turning the opponent over. Alabama
has not been turning the ball over that much so
far this season, So I think that ultimately determines who
emerges from this game victorious.
Speaker 1: All right, let's stay in the players era.
Speaker 2: We'll go we'll go a little double feature for today,
and then it'll all hell break loose as we try
to start figuring out like what what you know? What
you guys want to talk about on the rest of
this slate. But let's let's talk the other ranked versus ranked.
This one's a little bit earlier, so this will give
you sort of a midday feature, if you will. I'll
go back to Brian Power. We've got Iowa State. Saint
John's very intriguing matchup. How are you Do you have
an edge here either?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I don't either. So the first thing is that I'll
be talking about this a lot, mainly on Tuesdays. We'll
be talking about after we've got the new rankings. But
I always like to compare my rankings to what we've
got from the pollsters. Here and here you have two teams,
and I have it considered top ten teams. I don't
really want to bet against either of these teams. I
think they're better than where the AP has them ranked.
You know, that's just my initial you know. I was like,
I saw this match. You know, you see the Sometimes
you've see an event like this, guys, and you're like,
all right, God, I would love for this team to
be match up against this team, And then you get
a matchup like this Rake. Oh, I don't really want
to bet against either of these two sides right now.
I guess if you've forced me to make a pick, Trigg,
I would say Iowa State. They've been defending inside the
arc exceptionally well. I do think the game will be
played at a pretty fast pace. If you're looking at
the you know whether or not that leads to an over.
I don't know if we'll get enough points, but I
guess just the slightest of leans towards Iowa State. But
I don't This is again unfortunately. You know sometimes these
marquee games isn't where aren't where the value is? I mean,
I was joking with you guys what I was looking
at for my parlay and needs to say. Neither of
those games are in the Players Era tournament. I don't
think any of the four teams involved were considered for
the Players IRA tournament. We're going to wait down the
board for those. But this game, I don't know. I
look at it very similar to the first game we
talked about, where I'm pretty much right on market, and
I don't know. I think the favorite pulls it out,
but I don't I don't necessarily want to bet it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, I'll go to the total on this one.
I thought this one was too low Adam one fifty
nine and a half. I think it'll be played at
pace both teams. You know, the backcourts are so good
in this game that Saint John's obviously. I mean, half
of my reason is that I just feel like Saint
John's forces their tempo on their teams partly because of
their defensive style, because they will pick you up and
make you go, you know, three, quarter court, full court,
half court, whatever they'll get after you, which kind of
leads the door open for really good ball handling teams
a lot of times to find the open guy and drillshie.
For Iowa State, they've got plenty of that. The other
thing here is that they both have penetrating guards and
I could see a lot of free throws in this
game guys for Iowa State with Lipsy and Torre, and
Lipsey's one of the best in my mind at getting
to the rim.
Speaker 5: But TJ.
Speaker 4: Yatsenberger quoted as maybe a difficult matchup for them in
this game was Zubi edge of four in the middle.
He thought that that could be problematic for Iowa State.
So certainly if he knows it and is recognizing it,
there'll be some kind of focus on it. But you know,
Saint John's is so good at scumber and you add
Bryce Hopkins to this team. To me, I just thought
this was probably the game. And not that I didn't
think Alabama Gonzaga would be lined at one seventy, but
I thought this game would be really close. I thought
maybe we'd be looking at sixty seven sixty eight in
this game, and we're not fifty nine and a half
up to one sixty. So for me, I think this
is a definitely a personal play on this game over
the number and probably make the client card as well
within the next few minutes here because of you know,
the early start, you want to make sure it gets
out there.
Speaker 5: But I do think this is a high scoring game.
Speaker 4: I just you know, there're rims that these two teams
don't play on a lot. As far as fan base
is concerned, I wouldn't think there's It's a great game.
It's a game that I think, Adam we'd love to
be at. But I don't know how much of an
audience it will attract out there as far as specific
fans from Saint John's, Jamaica Queens, and Iowas Stater concerned,
although Saint John's could be nationwide. I mean, they are
a big, big name, but give me over a necking.
Speaker 2: I feel like, if anything, Iowa State hoop fans travel
like they they always dominate that conference tournament in Kansas City.
I know this would be a little bit farther, but
it's like, I don't think it's that crazy to get
out to Vegas on a flight from from Iowa.
Speaker 1: So if you if you.
Speaker 2: Ask me, who's going to have more fans in the
building is probably Iowa State. Whether that matters or not,
I'm not quite sure. I will say this though, there
is there's no way that Saint John's can win a
low scoring game against Iowa State. Like if they they
just can't. They don't have the guards to handle the
ball against that Iowa State deepense. So in my opinion,
regardless of what happens in the game, like Saint John's
has to turn this into a track me or they're
not going to win, like just just that simple.
Speaker 5: I just like.
Speaker 2: Iowa State, like they're now granted, Like you could make
the argument that, well, we haven't really seen Iowa State
play anyone. Fairley, Dickinson, Grambling, stone Hill are all like
very like low majors. I guess the one team that
you know Iowa State has played that would be like
good is Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: But they looked terrible last week.
Speaker 2: I might have downgraded them as much as I downgraded
any any team. They were They were atrocious, absolutely atrocious.
Speaker 1: Brian go ahead.
Speaker 3: There's one team I've done. I would say Misissippi State
is very very high on the loyal the Chicago It's
by far the biggest downgrade in the country. I can't believe,
by the way, shout out to all you guys in
the chat who were talking that spack saying, hey, let's
take this a step further with the Northern Illinois played
them on the money line yet because they did it
to the Ramblers that was incredible.
Speaker 1: I can't believe they just got they got blown out. Yeah,
blow yeah.
Speaker 2: But back to this one, Like, if you if you forced,
if you pinned me down for a side, I think
I would take Iowa State. I thought money Line like
where it opened Iowa State minus one. I thought there
was like a tiny bit of value there. It looks
like it's now up to two and a half even
three some places. So like, even though I agree with
the move, I wouldn't. It's not something I would want
to get in late on. And really the only reason
I have that I'm like would put me on the
Iowa State side is I think their defense. It is
like the thing I trust the most about this matchup.
But if hey, if Saint John's can turn this into
a crazy track beat type game. They can win a
game like that, So again it's it's probably not something
I'll have a play on.
Speaker 4: You know, I think Adam real quick, that Iowa State trio.
We know they're tested. Even though they haven't played big
name teams this year, they're returning top three Mimsilovich and
Lipsey and Jefferson, those guys have been through these.
Speaker 5: Types of wars.
Speaker 4: So I don't even know if I would consider the
schedule of problem right now.
Speaker 2: That's a great point, really good point. All right, let's
get to so, let's get to questions. I've I'm gonna
get my parlay leg out right now. Again, it pays
to I guess to show up and watch live apology
in advance if you caught the replay to this, because well,
actually it could be good thing. If I lose, it'll
be a good thing. But hopefully we're not gonna lose.
I'm gonna use Troy in the parlay. They are playing Toledo.
So I saw some people ask me about early games
and this was one that keeps coming up, so you
can actually, yeah, two, wow, this is even So I
guess we'll talk Troy Toledo here. It's one of the
first games off the board today. Eleven am tip, I
am going to take the Troy. You know what I'll
do for the parlay?
Speaker 1: Brian Power?
Speaker 2: While I'm breaking this game down, can you figure out
what the money line is for Troy right now?
Speaker 3: Absolutely can do that because I actually have a two
screen set up here despite being on the road.
Speaker 2: All right, So while he's looking that off, I'm just
going to talk about the game a little bit. So
the reason I targeted this game, and this is the
only thing I've played so far today. I will add
plenty others, but like I've tweaked some things. After a
rough couple of days, I changed up my approach to
releasing plays a little bit. So the only thing I've
played so far Troy minus two and a half. It's
a three percent play for me, and I'm probably just
going to use the Troy money line in the parlay.
But the reason I focused on this game is I
feel like I have a very good read on this
Toledo team. I believe I'm four and oh playing either
four or against Toledo this year. Brian Power and I
got to go out to Savage Arena. First week into
the season, we saw them play Marshall.
Speaker 1: And the reason I.
Speaker 2: Feel like I have a good read on this team
is they're very They're a very different team depending on
what kind of opponents, what their opponent is going to
do against them. So those first two games where Toledo
looked awful, South Alabama and Marshall both have the ability
to play a very tricky style, zone type defense, and
with Toledo trying to dribble drive, dribble kick, it just
didn't work. The offense didn't look good at all, and
they lost both of those games. Now, Toledo comes into
this game on a three winning streak.
Speaker 1: Big reason I think Toledo was able to win three
straight games.
Speaker 2: Wright State plays a lot of man, Youngstown State plays
a lot of man, and Detroit Actually I actually played
Detroit plus ten and a half in cash that game.
Toledo wasn't necessarily great in this that game, they just did.
They sort of willed their way to a win against
a lesser team. So like Toledo's got these three straight wins,
but two of them were at home. Almost all three
of them were very a very favorable setup. Now I
get why people are taking the points with Tuled, Like
I understand the thought process of the market saying Toledo
plus five is too many. Troy just came off of
these like two crazy games. It's now in a neutral court.
That's too many points for a neutral court, and I
just straight up disagree with that.
Speaker 1: I think this is a great matchup for Troy.
Speaker 2: I think Troy's defense right now is underrated based on
the fact that they played Cal Northridge, who is like
just going to play offense and not defend at all.
They played USC, went to multiple overtimes, crazy game, San
Diego State couple lots, and also USC and San Diego
State are not I mean, are not Toledo like those are,
you know, borderline power conference to where one is a
power conference team from the Big Ten. San Diego State
might as well be a power conference team at this point.
And Northridge plays a game that there's just there, They're
not playing any defense, but they want they can score.
So I think you have a very deceiving sort of
profile here for Troy suggesting that Cross got Cross his
team isn't going to play any defense. I disagree with that.
I didn't agree with the move, and so at two
and a half. I just decided to jump in. You
can actually get two out there right now. But for
the parlay, I'm just gonna put the money line in.
So Brian Power, what is the Troy money line at
this one?
Speaker 3: We can call it minus one forty minus one forty five.
DraftKings got it at minus one forty. If we want
to give an actual number of book has DraftKings at
minus one forty two.
Speaker 1: So let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll call it minus one four. I mean, we're
gonna have plus money on the parlay anyway. We need
to hit one of these.
Speaker 1: We hit.
Speaker 2: We hit three parlays in the first week, and then
we went two weeks without hitting one, which is why
I decided let's just give ourselves a better chance to
win and go moneyline.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, bright.
Speaker 3: Well, and if anyone remembers from Friday, I know, obviously
we're coming off a busy weekend, and it was a
few days ago, and we've watched a lot of football
since then. We're all trying to, you know, breathe deep
and prepare for Feast week, Rivalry week. It's obvious this
is one of the busiest you know. I don't need
to speak for Robert Trigg to say, it's one of
the busiest weeks of the year obviously in this business.
But if you forgot on Friday we had that thing, man,
we have that, we have that parlay and.
Speaker 2: The second one that a team has totally died and
we cost.
Speaker 1: Us over that one total.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So again, there's been three days in fifteen
shows where if you if you if you've bet them
all all three legs straight, you wouldn't have gone it
too and one. So we've hit a lot more than
we've got wrong. So I forgot you asked me something. Initially,
I can't rememberve it.
Speaker 1: What it was, No, it rude it.
Speaker 5: I was just fifty three first half points.
Speaker 4: I was like, and in the in the text thread,
I know, we're like, go Georgia, We're gonna win this thing,
and I'll be I don't know what happened to twenty
five second half points just and Tanita shot to win
the game on top of that is just great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they had two points in a ten
minute stretch or something like that was insane.
Speaker 5: Just nuts.
Speaker 2: So and with that being said, again, I'll I'll just
remind everyone that this is an eleven am tip. This
is I believe in Fort Myers, Florida. Yeah, I like
the Troy Trojans. I also, I just think they're a
better team. And then that the matchup sets up for them,
Like you mean to tell me they're going to be
tired from a triple ot game they played like three
days ago.
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't agree with that.
Speaker 2: It would be one thing if it was like back
to back days, but that was a few days ago
at this point. Uh So, yeah, Troy eleven am tip
client played for me. I laid the two and a
half for clients three percent, So go ahead, Brian.
Speaker 3: And I just I don't know if you guys wanted
to hit this game, and far be it for me
just to start taking over the formatting. But I just
wanted to shout it out because I just I saw
the chat. In the chat, somebody said this, and there
I actually completely agree with it. All right, Look Tony
Brook and Pacific. I think the wrong team is favored
there as well. I don't. I don't agree with Pacific, right,
I think, And then and the numbers moving, which is
very interesting to me. So I don't know. I'm just
from a pure rate. I saw someone said I think
the wrong team's favored, and I said, oh, that's an
interesting let me look at this, and I compared to
my power ratings and I said, yeah, I don't know
why the line has gone. I think this game should
be a pick. To be honest with you, Tony Brook
is a slight favorite. So this is an eleven thirty
am Eastern tip in Daytona Beach.
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, so what was because I had
I was like a little bit off on the number here,
but I didn't really trust my read on both of
these teams right now, So Brian, tell.
Speaker 3: Like, what specifics up to four and a half, pacifics
up to four and a half. I at that, I
have to take Stonybrook getting now getting four and a half.
I again, I I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't understand. I mean, unless if someone's out and
I don't know, you know, maybe someone you know, I
had too had a little too much fun on Daytona
Beach last night. I don't that that. I olthough, I
just don't understand why we're seeing that kind of money
and it and the thing that scares you is when
I look at it, looks like kind of sharp money
because circa with the four and a half first and
everyone else has followed now, So I don't know. I
will just agree with the comment the person in the chat.
It was in our chat before we even went live,
someone said I think they disagreed with this line move,
and I just wanted to let I apologize that I don't.
I can't remember who said it, but I agree with
that comment. Whoever said it earlier. I'll look up the name.
Speaker 1: So and then I'll go to rob if to wrap
this up.
Speaker 3: If he's got Ala miller O two is the was
the person there?
Speaker 2: So I'll say about Pacific is Dave Smart is in
his second year there, and he was kind of like
so I believe he came from like Canadian college basketball
or something, and I know like there was a there
was a lot of sharp people that were very high
on him going to Pacific. So like last year, every
Pacific game moved three or four points. But the thing
is that like it rare, I don't know that there
was a correlation between those line moves and like cashing tickets.
I think, like, yeah, sometimes it worked out, sometimes it didn't.
I would guess that it was it wasn't better than
fifty to fifty. I think, I think right angle, that's Pacific.
Like every time they play and they moved the market,
maybe they bet him again today. I don't know if
there's carryover from that from this year to last year.
Now where I'll disagree a little bit, Like my numbers
suggested that, like I was like off the market the
other direction, So I had Pacific a much bigger favorite
than the three.
Speaker 1: But again I don't.
Speaker 2: That's these are two teams where I don't fully trust
my rating on Like Stonybrook, you know CJ lusters now
at Wilmington, I don't know that they really reloaded, so
like I don't, again I don't. They are always scrappy though,
that's one thing. Like Stonybrook always gets left for dead
in that conference. They're always like better than they should be.
I don't really have much else other than the fact that,
like I will tell you going back to last year,
that if you faded these Pacific line moves in a
lot of cases at the better number, you're probably ahead
because like they would move three four points, then Pacific
would lose the game outright. So again I wish I
had more to add there rob anything else on Pacific
Stonybrook for you.
Speaker 4: No, but I'll move real quick, Adam, because we've got
so many early games. Let's just throw people out there
that could be of intrigue.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 4: NC State, Seaton Hall. We've talked about Will Wade all
season long. Now he's gonna go try and win the
Maui Invitational against Shaquen Holloway. Shaheen Holloway, who you know,
since the preseason and maybe even earlier, has been preaching,
you know, the improvement in his team. It's very hard
to get a gauge on how good Seaton Hall is.
And again, this is a one way team, top heavy defensively,
less than zero capability offensively. To be honest, they played
five teams that really are nowhere near the class of
NC State. They smashed all five, they defended all five.
It just comes into question now and obviously the market
thinks that they can't defend this NC State team. The
problem you would have is that sometimes these pit bull
like defensive teams get under the skin of teams that
want to go and score and you know, be real
quick here. And to the other point, if NC State
gets out quick, Seaton Hall can't chase. So it's a
crazy type of handcap here. It looks like the money's
moving towards NC State. The money's moving toward over thinking
that maybe NC State will.
Speaker 5: Dictate this thing.
Speaker 4: I think the biggest question is Seaton Hall kids in Maui.
I don't know how often Seaton Hall gets to Maui,
and NC State will weigh to me. As I've said before,
is just a guy on a mission with this team,
probably has his team better focused. This is all obviously
guessing and reading between the lines from what we've seen
so far this year out of NC State, but nine
and a half, which is universally available now, I think
maybe you take a shot here with NC State.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I would expect that Seaton Hall winds up chasing and
can't find their way back into that.
Speaker 5: One real quick.
Speaker 4: And I'll let you guys hit on this one. But
the Rutgers Tennessee game intrigues me a little bit. Plus
fifteen and a half with Rutgers the way they're playing
defense for Steve Piico this year, and Tennessee really has
had ball protection issues. They're not necessarily a dominant offense team.
Maybe fifteen and a half.
Speaker 5: Is too much. There maybe a good take with Rutgers.
Speaker 3: So I agree with Rob on both of those games.
I thought this NC State line was a touch at
the market agrees. I thought that number was a touch low.
I thought NC State should have been a double digit
favorite in that spot. So I agree. And then Rutgers Tennessee.
I'm glad Rob brought that up because I wanted to
talk about that game too. We talk about this player's
ear format. How you know your opponent tomorrow? Okay, Tennessee
has Houston looming on the docket. Is there maybe a
look ahead factor for the volunteers? Look? I played against
Tennessee last week for a leg of the parlay. I
said it was going to be a sweaty, you know,
sweaty butt cheeks game at the end, and we were
kind of lucky to even cover thirty two and a
half drig because Tennessee did not shoot well and they
almost still covered. That's the concern right now when you're
if you want to bet against Tennessee today, that they're
coming off the game where THEYDN shoot were I know,
the third leading scorers out. I think this is an undergame.
Rutgers in Tennessee. I think two defensive minded teams. You know,
it's an early start in Vegas, sleepy first half, Maybe
Tennessee coaching staff with a mind on you, maybe a
little bit of the brain on Houston under is how
I would look at that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like inadvert inadvertently you have you can just timestamp this,
like the Garden State segment, We've got a little seat
and haul Rutgers.
Speaker 1: We'll do them together.
Speaker 2: I kind of I don't really have much to disagree
with either of those. Like as far as Anti State,
what I'll say is like I felt like VCU played
very good in that game. Like I don't think like
the NT State didn't cover against Virginia Commonwealth, But I
don't think it was because I had anything to do
with Anti State. I just thought VCU, you know, played
a good game. And if if VCU hit a couple
more threes, that's a different story. I mean, they you know,
they jacked up forty two to three pointers against NC
State in that game. They still hit thirteen of them,
which which isn't half bad. But like you look at
that game, NC State out rebounded them by quite a bit.
You know, it was like it was one of those
games where I you know, NC State turned the ball
over seventeen times credit to credit to VCU. I know
it's Phil Martelli now, but he does play a style
a little bit similar to what VCU used to play,
where trying to turn the ball over and create some
some I guess you'd call it havoc if you will.
So again, I'm not going to knock NC State for
not getting the cover in that game. And I'm kind
of with Rob. I think will Wade is going to
destroy a lot of spreads. I think when he can,
he's going to want to win by ten to fifteen.
And the one thing about Seaton Hall is you know
they catch an offensive drought at some point, which we
know Holloway's teams will and Ken do, and suddenly you're
down ten. So don't disagree with you there, Brian, as
far as like my rating on Tennessee a little bit
lower than the market, so I can't I wouldn't be
able to lay. I would There was no scenario where
I'd ever been able to lay fifteen and a half though,
And what I've said about Rutgers a couple of times,
which I'll bring back up to wrap up this segment
and we'll move on. Even though this is a far
less talented Rutgers team, for Steve Pykeal, it's probably more
of his type of team, Like he really made some
big time concessions last year for Ace Bailey and Dylan
Harper that was not like he basically had these two
stud players, but playing a style of basketball that wasn't
really like his strengths, coaching at his strengths. So now
you have a Rutgers team. Yes, they're far worse than
they were from a talent standpoint last year, but they're
going to get back to playing that style of basketball
that got Rutgers from a bottom team in the Big
Ten to a tournament team back in twenty twenty one,
and I think twenty twenty two. So I'm a little
higher than the market on Rutgers. And so yeah, fifteen
and a half kind of makes sense.
Speaker 3: Just one last point. We could put a ball on
it with Tennessee Tennessee five and oh straight out, but
just one and four against the number. I would love
a non and cover here, and I would actually then
maybe just you know, again, maybe I'm overthinking the room
here in a different room than normal. Obviously, but maybe
we get a decent number on Tennessee against Houston then
as at first time as an underdog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good point, Go ahead, Rob, Sorry, we're you gonna
say something.
Speaker 4: No, no, as much as I had to say on
those two games I have I was looking ahead here
at some stuff that's moving, So go right ahead.
Speaker 3: And buff leading out the Syracuse team or something today
if I missed, what was that?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 3: Did I not receive that medal?
Speaker 1: Listen?
Speaker 2: I got again, Like there's a lot of comments coming in,
like we're gonna do the best to get to as
many of them as possible. You know, thank you, Drake
Dimes for the donation, very much appreciate it. That's a
good way to get your comments, Seene, because it puts
it in green. I can't possibly miss it. If that's
the case. He likes Northern Kentucky over Eastern Kentucky. He
says he's got it minus two and a half. Last night,
I see it's already three and a half. Let me
get to this game, and you know, I'll give you
guys a second to just, you know, find there's such
a big slate today. But but I want to make
sure we touch on this game. So this would be
uh extra board because of Eastern Kentucky. If you're if
you're trying to navigate, and he's so I think he's
saying that he laid the three with Northern Kentucky last night.
Speaker 1: I so here's the thing. I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to disagree with you because I don't
feel like I have a great beat on either of
these teams. I have bet against, successfully bet against Eastern
Kentucky at times this year, but my personal number here
was closer to pick so I think I was I
was actually the Eastern Kentucky minus one, and so now
that it's three and a half, I don't I don't
know if that that.
Speaker 1: I would lay that again.
Speaker 2: I wish, I just wish I And I'll let the
other two chime in if they have anything to add,
Like the these are just two teams now. Northern Kentucky
it is a home game for them, so you do
have the edge of like this isn't on an island somewhere.
Speaker 1: This is a true home game for Northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2: But again, I think right now with where just straight
up off of my numbers, I would grab that three
and a half with Eastern Kentucky. And it's again, it's
not gonna make my card. But that's just the way
I'm looking at it. Hope that you know, but I'm
rooting for you. I'll root for you because I have
no action in this game. Does anyone else want to
throw something out for Drake Dines?
Speaker 3: Eastern Kentucky's not covered to spread this year unless if
my numbers are wrong, I believe they're oh for four
against the number I could go to this game. I guess, Drake.
I know if if you were me, you would go
to scam. I'm in Northern Kentucky right now, a Cincinnati, Ohio.
What if I after we're done here, what if I
just go up to the kids, my daughter, my niece,
and neph would say, forget about the zoo gang. We're
watching Northern We're going to Northern Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky tonight.
So uh, I don't know that sounds yeah, well yes
it does. I don't know if I might be outvoted
on that, but who knows. I'm right on market here.
Actually I would on a neutral I would make this
a pick them. But obviously with the look Northern Kentucky
doesn't have like the strongest home court in the world,
but I would make them slight favorites. So if you
got a good number, I say hats off to you,
Drake Dimes, and thank you for your contribution. By the way,
to the program. Remember to smash that light. But everybody,
it doesn't cost a thing.
Speaker 4: Adam, I'll hop in real quick with leg so we
can get this over with and then we can answer
more questions. I'm gonna look towards Arkansas State here tonight, guys.
There's been some movement in this price tag. They went
up from two and a half, which is obviously better
than having to lay four and a half. But I
like the line move and I think it's the right
side here. Ray Harper's been at Jacksonville State forever. We
know what he likes to do.
Speaker 5: He'll try to control tempo. It's interesting.
Speaker 4: This is the first road game for Jacksonville State this
year in Arkansas State.
Speaker 5: What know what you would call it here, But it
was a tough, tough road.
Speaker 4: Trip, a two game swing to go to Saint Mary's
and play as tough as they did at Saint Mary's,
and it'd be asked to go to Dallas. I think
we talked about this Friday because I think I gave
the SMU team total to somebody on air to have
to go to Dallas and play Indy NFL's SMU team.
They get whacked one hundred to sixty nine. But now
they're back home against Jacksonville State in their first true
road game, the first real opponent Jacksonville State got to
play at home with South Alabama. They promptly lost by six.
Now they're going to go on the road to play
a team that likes up tempo what they don't like
in their in the other side gym. And I think
Arkansas State, just off of that watching that Saint Mary's game,
is a flat out better team than Jacksonville State right now.
So you're gonna give me home floor a team that
can score better. I don't know that Jacksonville State, other
than South Alabama, has been faced with a team with
offensive capability like Arkansas State. Certainly not with like Arkansas State.
I think it works against them here, So give me
the line move.
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 4: We're two points to the bad here, could have got
in at two and a half. We're gonna hop in
at four and a half. But I think Arkansas State
wins this game by three buckets or more. So give
me Arkansas State is a parlay leg minus four and
a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I agree with that that that was something
that was on my radar. You can always throw the
money line and if you were worried about the number
since it is a three teamer, but if you want
to go four and a half, that's cool.
Speaker 1: It's up to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could alternate alternate line at two? What are
they at two and a half if we go back
to the beginning?
Speaker 1: I feel like, no, See, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna do that, you might as well just
throw the money lining because they're never gonna give you
the right nods on an alternate line with the money
I would make far more sense than two and a half.
Speaker 1: But what do you want? What do you want to
go with four and a half for.
Speaker 4: The parlam I'm looking right now, So they're about a
two dollars favorite. We have to get our mathematician Brian
to if it goes money line, what's the difference.
Speaker 2: In our I'll do then I can run the figure
it out, Adam, and if it's not that big of
a deal, we'll play money line two to one actually
doesn't sound like that bad of a price.
Speaker 5: For a four.
Speaker 1: It'll be.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, it's it regardless of what Brian
throws in the parlor, like, we're still gonna be plus money,
so we might as well. That's kind of where my
head was at with Troy. It's like, well, let's just
see if we can give us ourselves a better.
Speaker 5: Win one, right, Okay, Yeah, let's play money line. Let's
just go win one.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the parlay, Brian, if you want to close
this out for.
Speaker 3: Us, yeah, and then I'll I'll close the parlor. How
about this, I'll close the parlay legout and then I'll
answer the ou because people are asking me about oh you
George Mason. So all right, hold on here, we can
all do this together.
Speaker 2: And then we'll get we'll get cues for buff before
the end of the show. I warn't, we'll get that.
Speaker 3: All right. So I I hate giving the opposite of
something that somebody's already said in the chat because that
means they won't be happy. But uh, I'm gonna go
with v M. I getting the seven and a half
at Buffalo here. So this is the time of year, guys,
You're gonna see some teams with either you know that
have either covered all their games haven't covered all their games,
And you have to ask yourself, you have to dig in,
all right, is this real or is this a mirage?
With Buffalo? I think it's more of a mirage. Buffalo's
coming off a game against Vermont that was much closer
than the final score. What the key to this game is, Guys,
VMI shoots a lot of threes. They're coming off a
not so good game from distance. Buffalo does not defend
the three well. So I think even if VMI is
not necessarily shooting a huge percentage, I think volume alone
gets the key. Debts inside the number here and I
will take seven and a half. Don't have to worry
I guess about you know mine, Just straight, We're not
gonna have to worry about whether or not the bet
money line or lay it here, because of course I'm
taking the points and I want to go v MI
plus seven and a half to round things out.
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, but Buffalo, you have to just just.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm trying to say here, just
like just the mindset you should have as a handicapper,
like Buffalo, starting five and zero. His team has so
just to provide some context, the Buffalo Bulls were picked
by many to finish near the bottom of the MAC.
They've been absolutely horrific since George Halkovich took over three
years ago. It was kind of a thing. I think
it was a so I was obviously Natoates. Then it
was like white Cell his assistant. That was still pretty
that it took over. That was still pretty good there,
and they kind of like, I know, like being close
to proximity to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I'll get out to Buffalo games every once in a while.
Speaker 2: And like there was some I don't really know why
the school decided to go in a different direction, but
they did. They bring in Halcovich, who was like a
J Wright assistant, and he's been just dreadful since showing up.
That being said, like they went on the road and
won at DePaul as an eighteen point underdog. Pretty impressive,
I would argue, even just as so knocking off Vermont
that was like two four and oh teams Vermont coming
into to their building. They win that game ninety four
to ninety. But like this team just learned how to win.
They certainly haven't won at any other point in time
for Halkovich. So are you really going to come out
and start laying seven and a half on a neutral
with them? I'm with you, Brian, I think I would
lean DM either as well.
Speaker 3: I'm throwing the fingers up, Trig, not to show off
that I'm happily married, but to actually point out that
three is the number of wins by seven points or
by less than seven points that Buffalo has. So while
they are undefeated, okay, we're talking about a five and
oh team, they've covered this spread in every game. Here.
They have won three games by seven points or less,
one of them against Green Bay. We know that they
stink Southern Miss in the opener, So yeah, the DePaul,
I mean, that's an impressive result, Okay, But I just
I just think that now you know you're at a
tipping we call it a tipping point. Right, here's a
team that's been a surprise. They've covered the spread in
every game, and I don't know, I just think it's
kid of to I'm not saying they're gonna lose outright
by any stretch of the imagination, but I just think
that you know, this number's got a little rich at
seven and a half. Vm I is gonna come in here,
you know, after three straight losses, and they're gonna compete.
And I just again I did. Look, they got buried
by Richmond last time out. It was a situation where
they just could not make a three twenty six percent.
We don't need that. That was two games ago. Actually
I apologize the Stetson game was the last game. But still,
I just think volume alone gets VMI in the number.
I think, Buffalo, where are they at three point? Defense wise?
It's it's very bad. It's like despite the start of
me and I think it's like bottom twenty Okay, yeah,
I was gonnay. I knew it was like bottom twenty
twenty five in the country. So there you go. I mean,
and if vm I is hitting those threes, then I
do think they can win this game, outright.
Speaker 1: Rob, Rob, let's go back to you.
Speaker 2: Let's get a little more players air in in the
final ten minutes. And well, I know Jay buff wants
to talk about this game. I showed up in the hoodie,
not because I like Syracuse to that.
Speaker 1: I was just cold in what I was.
Speaker 2: Wearing prior, so I threw this one on. I'll root
for sarahcuse here. I don't think I'm going to have
a play, and of course I'd love to see the
local team win. But Rob like I kind of I
mean that that opening number was awfully low for Houston.
Speaker 1: I kind of am where it's at right now.
Speaker 2: Certainly not going to punch back here, but I think
the current number of this game is probably right. So
your thoughts Houston, Syracuse out in Vegas.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'll take something that Brian said a
little while ago when he said maybe a little look
ahead for Tennessee because they're playing Houston tomorrow. I'll guarantee
you Kelvin Sampson doesn't look ahead to anybody. I mean,
it's just pound, pound and pound again. You know, Houston
first half has been a thing for a while. I
went back and looked at the results so far first
half forty seven to twenty five against Ryder, thirty nine
thirty five over Auburn, only a four point differential. They're
thirty nine to seventeen, smash Oakland by twenty two and
thirty three twenty six.
Speaker 5: The fifth game I don't have in front of me.
But you know, when you try to shorten Houston.
Speaker 4: Up, you try to go to first half, and like
I say, it's been successful, but here there's still eight
and a half. This is a team whose defense, if
you're not ready, they'll swallow you immediately, right, And I'm
just not sure that Syracuse will be ready.
Speaker 5: It takes a little while for teams to try and
even adjust.
Speaker 4: And Houston's so good on the boards too. I mean,
they just crash boards and get second chances. They shoot
a lot of threes this year, which is somewhat uncharacteristic,
but I feel like that number has been building up,
up up. I can't disagree with anybody playing Houston first half,
full game. And like I said earlier, some of that
reasoning is they won't look ahead to Tennessee, right, they
don't care who's on deck for them. They just care
about Kelvin Sampson. Just cares about whoever we're playing today.
We're going to defend, We're gonna make them miserable, We're
gonna hold him to less than sixty points, et cetera,
et cetera. So I can understand the way people have
gotten to this number, although I do see a little bit.
Speaker 5: I guess there's a few thirteen and a.
Speaker 4: Half I thought I saw a universal fourteen fourteen and
a half before, So maybe there's been some punchback at
that number. Maybe some folks think it's gotten a bit
too high. Oh he's muted, Yeah, I muted.
Speaker 1: Sorry. I'll just wrap this one up and then i'll
go to Brian.
Speaker 2: We'll get a couple of mac thoughts at the horn here,
because I see another one in the chat as well.
I'll say about Syracuse is that the positive I'll say
about them is I think they have a little bit
more talent than they're getting credit for. I think that,
you know, they've been they were so dismal last year
and they really just haven't been good in the Adrian
Autry are era horrific coach by the way, But like
the thing is with Autrey, it's like when you're talking
about a fourteen point spread, Like that's where I'll start
to like not care if I have like a coach
I don't like as much, because it's really I think
talent will cover those numbers in a lot of cases.
Speaker 1: And the one thing about Q's is like I look.
Speaker 2: At the roster Kayane Anthony kind of looks good, like
there's some upside there. They just got JJ Starling back
in the Monmouth game. He's obviously very good. Freeman's really good.
Like there are players here like this team very well
could be better than they're getting credit for. I wouldn't
take hus Let's let's circle back to the line move.
I wouldn't take Houston now after it's moved five points. Yeah,
I just don't have enough faith in Syracuse for this
to be where I want to take the stand with them.
So I will look for a spot to back Syracuse
because I do think they're a little bit undervalued against
better competition. So you talk about C's like I bet
against them last time they had a game with Monmouth.
It was a quid play and I gave it out
on the show here. Those are the type of games
I'd love to go against q s. When they're big favorites.
They're gonna have a game coming up here, whether it's today,
whether it's tomorrow, whether it's a week or two from
I think ten days from now, and they play Tennessee
up here at the Dome.
Speaker 1: Your boy will be at that game where they're gonna
be there.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be too big of a favorite, or they're
gonna be too big of an underdog, and that's where
I'll take my stand with QS.
Speaker 1: I just don't think I can do it against Houston.
Speaker 2: Brian Power, talk to me about the Mac Ohio and
then I'll hit.
Speaker 1: Bowling green quick before we before we get out of here.
Speaker 3: I like the I agree or I don't know if
somebody did say the under or not with the George
Mason Ohio you game, but that's how I like it.
Ohu's playing slower this year than they did last year.
George Mason's plays are George Mason's excellent team at the
def at the defensive end as well. Market likes the
under here, and I like the under as well. In
that game, I don't know if this was where you
wanted to go next the other obviously, I think the
Mac team most people are interested in today's Akron trig
in the final out in the the Old Paradise Jam
against Yale. I agree with the market move there towards Akron.
This Acron team has been Is you talking about teams
we downgraded earlier in the show, Okay, the Mississippi State's obviously,
the Oil of Chicago's teams I'm upgraded. Are that list
the Akron Zips are on it. Okay, this has been
a very impressive team. They're only straight up losses to Purdue,
uh and, and they want a performance against Iona. I
thought that number was a touch high. No it was not.
And this is a revenge spot for the Zips. They
lost last year at home to Yale. They haven't forgotten.
I agree with the market move there. I would I
would lean Akro. I would go Acron on the money
line to win the Paradise jam.
Speaker 1: I want to get Rob back in here.
Speaker 2: The one thing I guess like, I like that Yale
team a lot too, but I questioned their defense just
to touch, do you have any interest in over and
Akroneille feels like there could be some efficient offense in
that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the first way I would look at that one.
Not that I wouldn't look at Akron because I certainly
think they're you know, at one and a half, and
it's been a line flip in that game.
Speaker 5: Switch a favorite. So the money agrees with Achron.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean even on that total, we see
one fifty four and a half open up to one
fifty seven and a half. You could easily see one
sixty Akron's a team that'll hang ninety on anybody, and Yale,
for what it's worth, again, one of those teams that
we've talked about often where they may not race up
and down the floor, but they're so efficient that they're
going to score their share as well. I'm real fast
here where we pivot off of that. I'll just throw
in here my thoughts on Auburn Oregon in that wonderful
Player's era Championship that we couldn't figure out this morning.
You know, my initial reaction was Dana Autman against Stephen Perl. Wow,
I want Oregon, but I played against Oregon last week
with Oregon State, because again, they haven't come out of
the gates firing.
Speaker 5: They didn't come out of the gates firing last year.
Speaker 4: Dana Autman's a pretty honest coach, he tells you, and
he doesn't think his team is really good at his
particular time. And since that Betune Cookman game where I
remember texting, I'm like, this is Stephen per really going
to lose to between Cookman and they almost did, but
since then they've been dominant and they played Houston to
one point seventy three seventy two, so the talent on Auburn,
I think overall is better than Oregon. I somewhat disagree
with that line move where they're betting a lot of
Oregon here for down to in some spots three and
I'm looking at a couple here, major major players in
the market for smaller betters, you know, two and a half.
So I think Auburn might be a good side there.
We'll see, but I'm not going to downgrade Stephen Pearl
the way I would have to start the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone asked about early games. Well, I guess we
have a I should recap the parlay now. Let's get
the parlay and the promotion stuff done now, and then
we'll see if we can get one at the Horn.
But if you're looking for early games, two early ones
in the parlay, and so I'm going Troy on the
money line for my parlay. Leg I laid two and
a half for clients, and that game starts in literally
four minutes, So Troy Trojans minus two and a half
is a three percent plate for me. I used Troy
money line in the parlay for our three teamer for
the show, Brian Power went vm I plus seven and
a half that's a little bit of an earlier tip.
And then Vino closed the parlay out with Arkansas State
on the money line, I have a five percenter in
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Speaker 3: Yes I did. I did, just notice. We hadn't talked
about it. I do want to note, coming off the
strong Sunday guys, three zero and one overall for me,
hit my game of the week in the NFL with
the Dallas Cowboys. How about that Cowboys? What a comeback?
Speaker 1: That was about come back?
Speaker 3: It was kind of weird down twenty one.
Speaker 5: I thing.
Speaker 3: I actually didn't feel as you know, depressed as you
probably would have thought. I was like, you know, I
think we can get back. When it got to twenty
one to fourteen, I was like, I think we're taking
this one. And they did want it outright, despite a
lot of tom foolery from the Cowboys side. They were
really trying not to win that game, but they did,
and I liked that so three to zero to one
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Speaker 1: Rob anything to promote go ahead.
Speaker 4: I'll just close it out real quick as all three
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Speaker 1: I'll throw one more out for you guys.
Speaker 2: People are still asking me about some of the early games,
some of the ones sipping off right now. I saw
someone in the chat ask about Bowling Green. I was
tempted to lay the seven. I think there are much
better team than Buck Noll. So Buck Noll I've talked
about on the show a couple of times. They lose
Noah Williamson to Alabama. I don't think there's no way
they were ever going to replace a guy like that,
But I think they're down from the team that that
was the number one seed that won the Patriot League
last year. Of course, they got upset in their conference tournament.
Brian Power and I saw Bowling Green in person a
couple of weeks ago. This team's solid. I think they
could be like much better than people think. Not going
to ding them too much for the loss to William
and Mary. I felt like they maybe had a down
performance coming at some point, and I kind of feel
like they bounce back here. My number was close, so
I didn't get to the window with it, but but
a pretty good lean towards the Bowling Green Falcons in
that game. That's a noon tip on some island, probably
where somewhere in Florida.
Speaker 1: I'm sure somewhere in Florida. I think they they close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah, I don't think. Yeah,
I was say what you said was Iland? I forgot
where where I looked it up earlier? Say were this
Sun Coast Credit Union Arena?
Speaker 2: It's in Fort Myers's right, all right? We are at
the hour mark. Thank you guys for bearing with us,
huge slate. I know there's a bunch we didn't get to.
But when there's this, this isn't this isn't your usual
Monday show. A lot of times we can get on
a Monday and hit like the whole board, but this
is a feast week, so it's gonna get crazy and
we'll be back tomorrow ten am to do it all again.
Enjoy the college hoops all day today and we'll see
you guys ten am tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1: Have a great day, everyone,