Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentleman, and welcome back to Tress. Told
you my name is Treus, now your host. I'm here
to talk about a few little things. Green Lantern, some
Box Office if we have time, but primarily Green Lantern.
Another DCU rumor. As far as who a director is,
Challengers director Luca. Can I ever say his name right?
I think I always screw up the last name and
someone el says like, oh, I think I got it now,
but what is it? Luca Guada Gino? You know, big
time director, Challengers, Queer coming out? Was it bones and
all lots of good stuff? But yes, Tres told you,
I told you to be back with an episode in
the near future. I think this has enough DC just
Travis relaying things to talk about. I'll probably get the
boys' opinions on a newscast, but yeah, and if you're
watching live, it is a late one. But just don't
have time the next few weeks here because yeah, I'm
in the middle of all soon be moving so next
little while. Don't think they'll be trusting for the rest
of September. Those will probably be it right now and
you can go back to last TRAUSTI they talk about
the stats of the show what I'll be doing. But yeah,
so lots of stuff this week Beatle Juice, Rings of Power.
We're filming lots you can check out. We announced on
Twitter Facebook patrons, I will be making a post soon
because I want to include some behind the scenes stuff
of our third film we're doing right now. But yeah,
we won an award for Adrenochrome. Adrenochrome has one of
the best horror film in the New York Independent Cinema Awards.
Not made up, not just some random festival or anything
like that, an actual, like official on film Freeway. It
literally has that, which you know I'll be looking for
more now because it helps. It's IMDb qualified, so if
you've ever clicked on a film and you see like
the awards nominated for awards won, we can do that.
So in the next little bit here, I need to
make an IMDb page for myself and the film and
the boys. I am waiting a little bit because I
got this long hair that I'm hopefully in extra life,
you guys get rid of h I would like my
picture not to be that. Maybe some short hair, But
then I also think about keeping my head shaven for
a little while while I get the twins just make
it easy. So I really don't know. That's both my
natural looks. Maybe I'll just have to find something, you know.
I don't want something too young though, because I've got
some crows feet now, you know, a little growthier nowadays,
so something a bit more realistic. But yeah, that's been
tons of fun. Thank you to everybody on discord Twitter.
I hope I responded to you. If not, just appreciate
the love. It's very cool. We'll talk about it again.
We talk about a little bit brren and better, but
we'll talk about again in the future because yeah, we
I don't know, second festival we'll even submit it to
and we won, and I'm pretty happy. But like I
both times thought Kate, We're gonna submit to some, but
it's probably gonna take a little longer to get into one.
And it's not me trying to be argan or cocky,
because just because we got in a festival want something
doesn't mean oh yeah, we're off to the big time
stuff like that, because some people they don't think I understanding,
especially more like the family Facebook route of like oh
this means great success. Yeah, maybe, but we're in the
stage of we're just building a resume right now. Like Adrenochrome.
We have no thoughts of oh, this is gonna be
picked up by someone and distribute. No, it's the idea. Hey,
it's getting out there. We're building buzz for and building
just even accolades under us. Right But even then I
thought it might be a little longer. And the first
one we submit to we got in. Didn't win on
that one. You know, great film was there, so something
else won there. But still we got nominated or got selected,
and you get like we've tked about little laurels when
it's like, you know, so and so festival selections. So
it's like, that's always nice to have a poster. And
then the second one we got it, The second we
got into, we won, So I'm pretty happy. And you know,
New York's nice, little bigger market there, so yeah, it's
I'm It's it's odd now because now there'll be ones
where you know, you'll get denied or you'll get into
not win again. But kind of thought for a while
it would be oh, thank you will and Williams here
in the chat. Yeah it's a late aircard. Didn't even
didn't even announce it ahead of time to anybody that
we're doing this, I said, oh, I got time to record.
But uh yeah, I didn't expect us to get into
a festival, and I didn't expect us to win anything
in the near future. Thought it might be a little longer.
So it's nice to kind of have that like weight
off the shoulder. I didn't think we might not win
anything at all, so it's nice to have that weight
off the shoulder. But uh yeah, we're gonna talk about
Little DC News as traps totally. They said this will
be the only one for his Timber and then lots
of stuff. Beetlejuice is coming out tomorrow. We will review that.
There will be Rings of Power agg at the start
and Penguin. It's gonna be a busy, busy month. So
oh there you go. Well now I'll have to check
it out after everyone go check out at william and
the Sci Fi Center. Bump into him here at Vodka Stream.
Try to get on the Vodka stream. This week, I
was in the backstage green room and my wife I
went out because I haven't finished the episode. But they're
having a good debate and I don't think I'm gonna
do this here because I think I want to talk
to about the boys. But they're having a good debate
between four Superman and Drastic World Rebirth. Which one moves
and there's reasons for it not moving, the reason for it,
why should move? Lots of good stuff. But yeah, it's interesting.
Next year's gonna be very interesting. I can't wait. Hopefully
you'll be back for that time. But yeah, so this news,
Oh when the Brolin I think the Perlin thing came
out yesterday. Yeah, I think he met yesterday. And then
Moore is added on to it. So the Brolin thing
comes from three people, and then the other ones come
from another person that also report that, and someone backed
it up, so there are still more of the c
B Tiers stuff. But at the same time, hey, I know,
like Tomavagus Streem, I know Dave lots of people and
you can feel whatever you want. Right. The man has
me blocked on Twitter because I made a joke about
Patriots cheating and that was it, because I followed the
schmowdown lots and talked with those people, but made some
joke about patrons tweeted or cheating, and then I got blocked,
which is fine because you know it's it's just Snyer,
but he is. I put him more on the B
tier because he's had a string of getting things right
and he's not with any publication, so he feels he
has to do some bigger stories. Maybe not to check
with people, because even one rumor or one Scooper said, Hey,
I was told about this Rowl news, but I was
told like a no certainty, like don't fucking say this
at all, So then other people start to say it.
So that's where we've heard this for a while, right
that they're doing lanterns. It's an HBO type Excuse me,
it's HBO type True Detective inspired buddy cop. But I
don't think of True Detective as a buddy cop. You know,
it's a cop. I don't want to say procedural either,
but I would never say Buddy copp or. I feel
like Green Lantern will at least have a buddy cop element,
be a bit more comedic, but that's the idea, right
a lethal weapon, an old Guard person as Hal Jordan,
and then a new Guard with John Stewart. Right now,
it seems like with all the actors, we've gone and
they're going for a above fifty sort of route, which
is fine with me. I think there's some people that
have been disappointed you're not getting young Hell. And I
do understand that How's my favorite Green Lantern, but I
just kind of, I don't know. I can't say grew
up on him, because I did in a sense that
I read those comics were my favorite when I was
reading the least of How, But then I grew up
with John Stewart in the animated show, so they're pretty
neck and neck. But I just leaned Hal a bit
because I've read more of those comic books and I'm
not like a savant when it comes to DC and
Green Lantern stuff. So I'm just saying my personal preference.
But I still like John Stewart and I understand why
he will probably be more the main character, the person
that gets on the Justice League team. Right, So Aron
thinks they're all a good choice, and we'll talk about that.
So the first rumor was it's been offered to Brolin.
Now everyone always waits for James Gunn to shoot it
down whatnot. That hasn't happened yet. Who knows could just
go out toward and say, hey, no, this is true.
But that's been the first report that Josh Brolin and
I'm gonna talk about them individually of my thoughts and
pros and cons and whatnot. And then it was like, well,
if he turns it down, which who knows what that means.
Someone could be, you know, kind of negotiating the press.
This could already have been turned down. It could be
another name that we have not heard at all. Right,
but if he turns it down, well, Io McGregor and
Matthew McConaughey are waiting in the wings here. Like I said,
the director rumor, we'll talk about a bit because I
got really excited, still excited, but not as excited once
I heard the product, and funny enough with William in
the chat, me and him share that sentiment of he's
read way more commons to me. But as far as
some of the characters that James Gunns want to focus on,
I go, eh, not so much. Like when I got
a big breakdown of the Justice Society that they're kind
of doing in this and I talked to Chris and
Clay and brand It's like, oh, that's not really what
I want like the Justice League to potentially be for me,
especially because same thing with the how thing I would
I would have loved to have a more proper hol
Like as a main character and then hand it off
to John because even though these are bigger actors, all
the pitches we've heard is, hey, they are the gravitas
to get you to the project. But it's really to
raise up John Stewart, right. I wish maybe he was
a bit more younger as well, so maybe you could
have them both. But it's fine, you got to do
a certain choice. Right, So oh sorry that that crack
was bugging me. So Josh Brolin, let's start there. If
he has the first offer, right, what I will say
about him? And all three of these these are all
great actors. The good thing is for me, that's always
a good Okay. I like their work and I like them,
so we're off to the races, right. It's not like
for me, I can't even say that about like a
like a Jared Letto because he was an actor I
actually was maybe excited about for Joker, and I'd end
up liking that, right. So and yes, William says, yeah,
I'm feeling jla j L. I so Wayne seeing and
I'm with you where I've not read all those have
read them tangentially, but I've not. It's kind of like
the same way of like this rumor of what Luke
is going to be directing, like Saragan Rock, It's like,
that's such an interesting director, but that's who we're going with.
And I had someone in our discord the g one
say oh, well, why such a niche character. It's like,
well it was Mike. It's like, well, that's that's James
Gunn's thing, right, So we'll get to that point a second.
But all of them are good actors, and I would
like to see their takes. They are, you know, older
than they are, maybe especially rolling on the gruffy side.
Especially think of like Dune as a late right, and
even Louelle moss Is, I'd say his character at least
got him his comeback. That's a rough character. He can
do comedy. I and not that has to be comedy,
but I mean, like how Still is to me at
times or majority of the times. There's times where he's dark,
very dark, right, but majority of times he's the quarterback, cocky,
lighthearted kind of everyone has said this before. I'm not
for it anymore that they made the Tom Cruise as
Maverick comparison, right, and before many people be like, oh,
the perfect cast right there. If they didn't do Top
Gun two, then maybe I would have been down to
see Tom Cruise. But now it's too close. They're doing
Top Gun three. The roles are similar, even with the
Glenn Palace, like all that crew. That's too same that
you kind of water your own market there, right. So
for me, Brolin good actor. I think he could do
certain hellisms, but I don't jump to him in this role.
And it's there's already the two other names that we got,
I do prefer. And it's funnycause we're talking about this
in discord a couple of weeks ago, where or Patroun
Clay he loves he loves Brolin, And I think it's
when the camera the director's name is something Gregor. But
the guy that did Barbarian, he's doing a movie called Weapons, right,
and Pedro was the main star. He had to drop
out for all these obvious movies, right, and then he
replaced with Brolin, and I was disappointed and play so oh,
I like brol for this, this and this, and I
just felt like, oh his counter to me was because
I was saying I feel just Pedro as a more
versatile actor. Right, Brolin can be versatile. I think he's
more personal in his real life. But those aren't just
the type of roles he does, like look at something.
It's not like comedic because he's an asshole, but something
like milk is one of my favorite roles that he's done,
even when he did George W. Bush. There's some comedy there,
so I think he can do it. It's just the
natural inclination is to go, well, we know the type
of guy he's gonna play. And I suggested, like, could
this be in the canon after a Blackest Night, a
Sinestra War where we see how Jordan has gone through
some shit and maybe he's not the kind of lovable,
cocky guy I love to hate sort of way, right,
So I could see that being and all these along
with being good actors, are big names, so I feel
like they bring in for different reasons. All of them
bring in a set of eyes to the product. So again,
if Brolin gets it for me, it's like, okay, fine,
I'm on a wait and see. But that's not inspiring one.
I think the other reason why it's not like an
inspiring choice is well, it's funny you just brought this
up here about the job. Like the reason Josh Brolin
is Jonah, He's obviously he's not Jonah Hex anymore because
that was a long time ago. But he's done Cable,
he's done Thanos, he's done Jonah. He's some people count
and his rolling men in black. Ause that is a
technically a comic book movie for me, That's the thing.
I was like, oh, okay, even like you and to
an extent, and Matthew is like, oh like even with
just black masks not too long ago, and Matthew's never
done it. I guess you played Cowboy Cowboy Pool and
Dead Poem Wolverine, but that doesn't count, right. But even
when Matthew, it feels weird to be like, well, we're
making something like True Detective. Oh and we got the
guy in True Detective. You go okay, like that's kind
of too similar, like you might get too many of
those ros. I'm not saying he's gonna play a character
like he didn't True Detective where he's showing up coke
and running through the streets. No, no, no, not that, but
it's just kind of odd to get that right. And
Ewan again we just got Black Mass so I was
waiting for a maybe not like saying, but more fresher
name to come out where it's like, okay, let's see
this new actor, fresh Marvel, fresh DC. And I don't
mind James Gunn reusing actors, but I think it's more
like Frank Grillo or like, okay, he was Crossbones here
and now he's roof Flake Senior. Yeah, I'm fine, even
though they're kind of similar characters, even Nathan Garter or
yeah as Nathan right, yeah, Guy Gardner. I'm putting their
names together, Nathan Philli's Guy Garden and say okay that
I feel it's gonna be a different type of character,
even though it could be similar to what's his name
character you played in Guarian Street because he is kind
of a dick, right, But for me, all these names
were all good, so that's like a good you know,
thumbs up. They're all names. They're giving How at least
a serious actor as well, so even if How's not
the main character, it's like, Okay, you're getting a bigger
actor for this role, which I appreciated. We've heard some
sort of rumors that maybe there was a Justice League
that was together and broke up, and that's we're seeing
the remnants of it being put back together. That makes
sense why you're getting older ones. So if I have
to rank them, because I've seen lots of support, I
think I've seen most support for you in which same thing.
If I'm just going off of it depends what how
right and now I go back and go okay. If
it is some of a bit more rough, that changes thing.
If it's just a pure comic book, how then I
lead towards Matthew because I feel like Matthew's the best
at playing that type of role, you know, the cockey
quarterback lovele but gout. You know, all the guys hate them,
all the girls want to be with that sort of team, right,
who eventually has hope and will and fight's a good fight, right.
I will say that Ewan probably would look the best
with the Domino mask. I can just see that on
his head. So that's something uh Job says. Isn't Brolin
a very short guy too? Maybe that doesn't matter. It's
like look Away to Learn with Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.
Like the height that like height, hair color. For the
most part, that doesn't really matter too much for me.
It's like, okay, as long as he's going the role,
he's good. Aaron says, I don't mind the JLA lineup.
If Batman Superman are in the team, I think they
will be. It's just do you like a lot of
kind of more potential goofy characters, right, because I do
think James Gounna will direct that, and I do think
you need you They're essential, and if they're in there,
I think you'll at least have I would say you
got Batman, Superman, hawk Girl, and Stuart's Green Lantern. I'd
say it would be those four. I think those ones
would make it. I'm not sure who else from the
Super movie. I don't know if Supergirl would be. I
don't think you need two super people on there, but
I think those four are safe to be in there.
And that's fine. It's just more of the general DCU
layout or like a Sergeant Rock. It's like maybe wait
a little bit till we get there, same thing like authority.
We'll see how that goes. But that's fine. That's what
James wants to do, and I'm down to sit back
and see how it goes. Right, as long as he
does the fuck with the Batman. I'll let him see
how it goes, you know, give me my Batman two,
give me badmin Part three and call Day and then
I'm happy. Then I'll never judge you. Really, I'll be like, Okay,
I do whatever. So I don't get the trilogy, but yeah,
So for me, it's like a Matthew McConaughey, Ewan McGregor,
Josh Brollen liked them all. I think, Yeah, Josh Brolin
is very much at the bottom of that list. But again,
I don't know what type of hell they're going for.
I don't know. I'm not saying Josh Brollen has an addition,
but just the same thing of like, hey, we want
this vibe for the character. Do you think you do that?
And he can go x Y and see why yes
and no, it's good right. So for me that's something
where I'm I'm down to see it all. I'm all
these there's no one bad on this list, and that's
a good step. And it's bringing a bigger name because
we don't really have that right now, like corn Sweat
is you know, a newer name. Millie Olcock had House
to Dragon, but she's still like an unproven name. If
you don't watch House Dragon, you don't know who she is,
and then we don't have really anybody else cast, right,
like even like like Nathan Philly's guy Gardener, are sure
he's a name, but he's not like, oh shit, like
McConaughey is the name. Academy War winner Ian McGregor is
a name. Obi Wan Josh Broland than as many other
things is a name. So that's the first really like
bigger tier actor and that makes sense if John Stuit's
going to be a newer actor, right, so we'll see.
I like them all. I think they're good choices. I
can see why people might be leaning towards you, and
I love you and you and I don't know if
I could say it's one of my favorite actors, but
I feel like I want to say that because he
is a guy that will make me just like watch
something he's in, even if it's dog shit. I love
you know, I love his own. We won the show.
You know, good parts, bad parts, but you know what
you're gonna do, you can you know we got what
we got. At least he was great in it. Unfortunately
the show was a little lackluster, but yeah, I'm they're
definitely not names I thought were going to be happening,
because I also didn't think they'd be going this old.
They're clearly going past fifty. I thought it would be
more the forties range, and then the John Stuart Row
will be like a mid twenties to early thirties. That's
what I thought they'd be doing. But clearly that's why
I think they have a story beat storyline going forward
in the show. In the universe, why'd be better for
the screen lantern to be older and more experienced, Not
just because he's a trainer. I just feel like for
multiple reasons. So yeah, I'm not sure. Let me know
what you think is your favorite. None of them are
ones i'd be disappointed in. There's some that I think
We're all for me is just the most like, Eh,
that's fine, McConaughey pop in the combo chay kind of
technically right, so that makes sense. And Ewan Sure, Ewen
for me is just like the almost oddest fit I
just was not really expecting coming at all, you know,
But uh yeah, let's take an ad break and we'll
be right back. Speaking of odd breaks, All right, let's
pull this article up because Snyer put this out and
then someone backed it up. But uh, Luca good gooda gino,
I think hopefully no one probably butchering it. But guy
that did call me by your name, Bones and all
Queers coming out, Uh, he did Challengers lots of great
stuff even though he called me by my called me
by your name and in Love I think one of
our most popular YouTube videos of me talking about how
overrated that movie is. Uh, not great in my opinion,
but a well made movie. This is a guy who
makes very different things, very sexual things, very very very
emphasized on very character heavy stories right especially Bones all chance.
I actually think they are all the most recent ones.
Is there anything I'm missing that he's done that I
thought was like great here? But anyway, so there's that
he's in talks for a DC project, and the next point,
who's not as high as Jeff, but they've been breaking
some stuff recently came out and said that it is
uh uh it's Sergeant Rock, which I'll pull up a
whole IMDb on him, because I'm not a connoisseur on
Sergeant Rock a Suspiria. I've never watched that remake. A
bigger splash. I want to watch. I have that on
my watch. Was writing on the letter box. So no,
I think I've seen the major ones here. But Sergeant Rock,
let's go for DC here. Let's see job says, who
is replacing Galagada as Wonder Woman. I don't think anyone currently.
I don't think there's no rush you could get her
on the Justice League. But I think there's maybe some
way because I think, you know, people can debate whatever
feel about Galagadad as an actor or actress, whatever you
want to say. But I also just feel like people
love her as Wonder Woman, So it's a harder replacement
to do, and I think you can wait expect even
if you want, like for some reason, I don't think
you should do it this way. But if it's like, hey,
we need three female characters on the Justice League, well
there's tons of that. You can put fucking black and
airy on there. You can throw back Girl on there,
you can throw oh god, who's some other members now?
Trying to rack my brain of female Justice League members? Geez,
someone hit me in the chat with one. But there's
many decent characters. Zatana. You can throw Satana there. You
want to not that she probably would, but I'm just
saying you can kind of put whoever you want, excuse me.
So I was really excited this one from a you know,
two to one, never heard the character, but Luca's Challengers,
so I'm intrigued. That's where I pause, right cause, so
I've loved to liked all his movies that I've seen,
other than Call Me by Your Name, which I still
appreciates a good movie, Love Bones all very very deep story,
very traumatizing story at times. Challengers was great. I don't
know if I loved as much everyone else, but still
would consider great like a four to five out of five,
nine to nine, zero point five out of ten somewhere
or there. And then what was the other one. I know,
I've just listened them off like a bunch of times,
and somehow I still forget them. But either way, I
was very excited by this news at first when Jeff
just report it like okay, because to me, this continued
that trend of Mangold the Supergirl guy is a good director,
but still wasn't like super exciting, right but Mangold gun,
I think there's another director in there. I guess Machetty.
I'm excited by still it was a crop of different
type of names and different type of feels, right, Luca
is the most different. That is, that's something where I
wouldn't think is possible of that guy doing the types
of movies he does, which are usually always oscar bait.
Whether you like that turn or out they are, which
is fine. He gets lost of love there and therefore
that specific audience, right, And there are a lot of
films that I don't think other than Challengers now were
for a lot of mainstream audience. I think Challengers had
a lot to do with Zendaya. I think the world
is it's funny that there's all these studies about all
young audiences don't want lots of sex in their books
or sex in their movies. Maybe that's true, but I
think the idea of a lot of these, you know,
c litature novels taken off in the past couple of years,
like very female focused love stories or even sex stories.
The fact that it was Zendaia with two guys, I
think that sold like, oh, what's this right, But even
then it wasn't a huge movie. It was just a
big movie either way. All that stuff's like, this is
the risks I want to see. These are the type
of directors where it's like Marvel's not going to do this,
and I'm fine with that. They are. They got their
machine process, they know what they're doing. They will veer
out the outside lines. As I've said before, they are
a restaurant who brings in different chefs. They have the
same menu, but sometimes that these chefs do some different flavors,
some different style of cooking, some different sauces. But you
still gotta stay. You're still gotta make this meal. You know.
We're still like, you can't get hired at you know,
an Italian restaurant and start making Mexican food or East
Unian food. You need to make Italian food. But you
should still let the cooks, you know, maybe do a
little thing specific to them if they think can make
it better. Right, maybe the odd time you do a hey,
do whatever you want weekend, but sometimes that doesn't always
go well. So for me bringing in this guy Luca,
that's like, okay, perfect, do things at the MCU you
can't do or they wouldn't want to do. Right. Make
very experimental, very different, very bold type of movies to me,
like a joker, like the Batman that stand up whether
you like them or hate them, you know, And I
get if you go, oh, a joker's not a comic.
We know, Brent, you're one of those if you're listening,
But you can't say, and I think, Brent, when you've
meant this, you can't say it's not unique or different. Right.
It has its own time and that's why people can
like it or not like it. But I think that's
how combat movies. I know MC's trying to get back
to a certain way and do this and that, but
I still think that the way they're gonna have to
be different or survive is to be different, is to
be like a Joke or the Batman, have a very
different set of skills and tones that people will be
excited to come watch and not just another comic movie.
Because I think a lot of these movies that bombed
the Marvels, Jaziams, you know, acamand in a in a
sense they became a bit more okay, just another one,
and you don't want to be that. If it is that,
then you got to do what Marvel's talked about and
spreading them out. But h so I was very excited,
but then the second rumor to this, which sided to
put this out there, but a different Scooper said, well,
it's supposedly Sergeant Rock. For me, that follows that Niche
James category of all right, and uh he here's a
he's Sergeant Franklin John Rock into The character is a
World War Two soldier who served as an infantry non
commission are officer. So I've heard this before. Excuse me,
I've heard this before. I feel like other directors or
there's been rumblings of like a Sergeant Rock at DC,
and it's always died for me good reasons for what
DC could be using DC Studios, for the money, the
budget at the time, especially with this director, this doesn't
excite me. Now if it's for some reason like a
Blade situation where he came in and said, I got
a pitch for Sergeant Rock. I really want to do this.
I still trust him as a director to make it different.
So it's still exciting to have him on board. If
you were to say, hey, Sogert Rock, movie's happening as
this guy. Okay, maybe I'm doing other things, but if
this is what he's passionate about and they want him
on then sure, let's see it, Let's see you, Scott.
I thought it was gonna be something like, uh, like
a Green Arrow, Black Canary, or maybe even like a
twisted version of like a Gotham City Sirens where you
could get some actual like like a Harley Ivy relationship.
Like I was hoping, man, he's gonna do like a
two hander, and it's gonna be a rom not a
wrong com but a romantic aromedy, you know, a romantic
drama and then with some comedy dashed in there. I
was very excited, Like there's so many dcs filled with
characters that haven't been adapted or could use a new adaption,
because I think this you could take a popular character
like Joker, give to Luca and he's gonna do something
you've never seen before, you've never experienced before. Right, So
I was very excited all this Sergeant Rock World War
two movie because I'm just in general, I've said this before.
I think I said, like Hacksaw Ridge is gonna be
like the last New World War or just war movie
I've watched, because unless it's something more futuristic and sci fi,
I'm just kind of done with them. I think I've
just seen even Hacksaw Ridge, which was a very good movie.
I fel like people talked about it. Maybe nineteen seventeen
was the last one I really saw it because the
one take gimmick. But I feel like every time people like, oh,
this is the best, and I go, yeah, that's good,
But it doesn't like reinvent the Wheel White people say
it does, right, So yeah, it's I'm of two minds.
If he can do a comic movie, great, I love
to see the channel. And I think that his Jeam's
going to committing to a very different style and that's
putting your money where your mouth is, where we want
directors to have their visions. And I think it's a
good get. And maybe he's just gonna big paycheck so
you could make more of these, you know, more smaller budgets,
you know, sexy movies. But hey, that's what you gotta
do as a direct right, And that's completely fine. So yeah,
that's all I have to say there. Quickly. I wanted
to do this and talk about the winners and losers
of the box office of this year because it's been weird.
I meant to multiple times to do and I'm glad
I didn't meant to multiple times. Du Trest told you
it was around Mayria June when all this stuff was
kind of not doing well. Right, there was things coming
up under expectations. Tracking would come out a certain number
and that would drop down. The second weekends be awful.
They'd be being rushed as streaming and VOD. But now
that's just in the main jew months. July and August
have been very big and blowing expectations. Now. I'm sure
many studios are maybe being a bit more delicate with
their tracking numbers nowadays because they've seen that and COVID
and strikes and everything. But still even things like Worldwide
it's not supposed to open the bake like thirty five million,
but beal Juice having a one hundred, and I think
it was like anywhere, what was it? I have in
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and ten to me, Beadle Juice opening it like six
Now I don't know the budget of it, right, but
just a barometer. Uh yeah, and who would have thought
inside out at one point six bill? And we'll get there.
I'm gonna go from May to August very quickly, not
a big breakdown because it is getting later here. So
but Beatlejuice to me, sixty million, that would have sound like, okay,
that's a really good opening for beal Juice. That sounds
about right. One hundred and ten. I know we've talked
about some newscasts, but it's like for me, I don't
really understand what it is. It's a combination, I guess.
So maybe people love beal Juice more than I thought.
Check out our Beal Juice retro where we reviewed it
last week. It was tons of fun. Maybe like beal
Juice More. Maybe it's just the type of different horror
movie too, It's like a more horror family movie. You
had Jenner Ortega, who maybe could be a star. We
talked about this a couple of weeks ago with Annie
tater Joy right, love her, she's one of the best
out there. But I think Kirk said, oh, get a
big star. I mean they're like, is she a big
star when she's had a few movies kind of you know,
not flaw but underperform, where Jenner Tacom might be an
actual big star. Right, They have all these things that
could just be a docent nostalagia. But still I would
never thought one hundred and ten, which if it hits that,
that's perfect, Like, that's very impressive. It could do more
than that, because lately in the July August months they've
been hitting above expectations. And that's where it was May
and June was box offices fucked, were so screwed, streaming ruin,
that the strikes ruined, that COVID hurt, that we're so
fuck we're not gonna get back to where we are,
And that made a lot of people we've been cocluding myself, Cokay,
what is gonna be a hit, because noting like Fall
Guy disappointing. I didn't think it was gonna be like
a billion dollar movie fire a fire Hunt or whatever,
but like I would expected it to triple a budget least,
you know, which I think it was like one it
was two hundred, because I guess triple would be six hundred,
so like, let me just find out here. But the
Fall Guy, you know, I didn't love it, but most
people think think it's a good movie. You have the
stars from the two biggest movies last year, Barb Hummer. Yeah,
one hundred and twenty five million dollar budget, so like
what let's do. I'm tired, so I'm not doing the
quick math here, So that would have been a three
hundred and seventy five I to me would have thought
that movie could clear four hundred million, make all the
money back plus marketing at DA DA But then box
office one pint eighty and that's where in May and
June there's some things like plant Apes did well. I
don't think it did as I think it's like the
second highest in the reboots, but still like pretty good.
But then there was uh if did fine? Furiosa that
crashed and burned. Uh, not crash and burn but like
did not do well. I guess it was really because
Bad Boys did well. Was there another one in June?
Inside Out? So maybe it was just the beginning. Was
there anything else in March too, like even that Springtime
era that was there was something Challengers Abigail, Yeah, that disappointed.
I think some award did good. Yeah, I think it
was just that early miss of those months where oh,
it's not doing well and plus we had some stuff
like Flash last year kind of sucking at the box
office at least right and then not do well. But
now I think it's just we're back to for me,
the wah blah wis. I used to pride myself with
my box office predictions, but stuff like Twisters that came
out when above expectations. It sucks for them that it
came out the week before Dead Put Wolverine, because I
think they really could roll that train a lot more out,
but they had the loose screens and people just want
to see that movie. But still it went above expectations.
And even then, it's not like U one of the
biggest films of the year, but better than I thought
I was gonna because I thought it was gonna eat shit.
And there's times where movies like The Crow come out
and Borderlands where I go, that's gonna eat shit and
they did and they did right. So that's the thing
where I feel so confident on some things. But it's
been a weird year and now for more more than ever,
I don't know what people are gonna go see. Some
many twisters opening mean that surprised me, beeal juice that
surprised me, where something like The Flash last year just
completely ate shit, who knows why, but just ate shit, right,
And I would have thought that could be big, that
could be possibly a billion dollar movie, right, and then
Junior come out luckily inside out like Aaron's saying here
made one point six billion, becoming the biggest anime movie
all time, surpassing which they technically count like the live
action CG. Lion King. But I wouldn't count that, but
I get why they have it there. But no, I
wouldn't have thought that. I would have thought, Okay, it's
gonna do well. I don't know if I would have
thought a billion, but I thought seven hundred plus, like
for sure, and that would have been a success for it,
but that just shows I guess a lot of people
grew with that story and they wanted to experience more
of I think it's a timely character for a lot
of people, and it's just something that everybody can get
on board with, right emotions. And for a while there
wasn't many kids movies and same thing. Despicable Me four
just hit nine hundred million. Might not hit the usual
billion it always does, but that's really impressive. Dead Pull Wolverine.
So honestly, fall Guy a big loser. F Yosa a
big loser. But that stuff where it's like same thing,
Maybe it's just people didn't want to prequel that character.
Auni Tirdred Maybe isn't a you know, a star Furio
of Fury Road not even the biggest success movie, right,
It's like it did well, but it's it's a lower
like like I think it's like three something, right, let's
pull it up, like, I don't even think it's four
hundred or it could be, but it's just right under there.
Let's see Fury Road box office. Yeah, three eighty, three
hundred and eighty million, that's what I remember. It's just
on a four hundred million it's not like a spash hit,
and those are like expensive movies because a lot of
practical stuff. So there were some bigger ones. But I
think the audience is just gonna go to things that
they enjoy and have a passion to see. And it's
hard to guess what that may be. Like. Look at
that Blake Lively movie that came out, right, what is
it called? Once again? All that controversy it ends with us, Right,
there's a movie Sony bugs of shit. I mean, other
than Spiermen movies, they're like so smart with their decisions,
their budgets, everything like that. Like that movie costs I
can't remember what. Let's searched us up again, right, I
think it's like an eighty million or some thing with
us Let's see, it's some cheap let's see Wikipedia. As
I it's just gonna bring out the book okay, two
doesand film? Okay, so let's see. But oh my god,
even though budget twenty five million, box office two hundred
and eighty five million, that is a huge, huge hit.
It made eleven times worth his budget back. That's impressive.
Who knows if he gets a sequel because people say
there's scuttle Buck going on there about having to work
together with the actress director. You guys know at all. I
don't need to explain that to you, right, But still
eleven times a budget that is very impressive. So the
box office is not dead. Not everything's gonna hit, not
everything's gonna succeed, but I still think there's things like
it to pickled me, like a Deadpool and Movering four,
like an inside out probably like a joke coming up
that can't revive the box office. And if you have
enough good movies and there people will come to see it.
Of course, there's gonna be good movies that are gonna
drop and stop and you know, just be missed and bombed.
But it's always been that way, and I think it's
back to where, Okay, it might be harder, we were
not living that adriane and just cranking a billion dollar
movie guaranteed, but it still can happen. And yeah, anyone,
anyone but you was also Sonny, Yeah it was. They
make these movies cheap, they get likable stars because whatever
you want to say about Blake Lively, she has a
fan base that likes her and they pump them out.
So even then, I fucking it ends with us. When
we made fifty million, it's like, well, it's not big
loss because it makes back its production budget maybe in marketing,
and then it gets going to stream or right. So
they've been very smart with those ones. I hope I
wish they one day do that with the Spider Man movies.
That would be great if they could get on bandling
and make that something. But the live action one specifically,
of course, but in the box office lots of big
winners here, like when We Go Down, we talked about
the animated ones. We talked about Uh, it ends with us.
Long Legs fucking one of the biggest independent movies of
I think at all time. Definitely of the year. Like fantastic,
immaculate marketing campaign. I've said this before. The people that
market that movie trailers everything, teasers. They need a raise
or someone needs to hire them be like, hey, can
you market our movie? Obviously your movie still needs to
good and have some sort of intrigue, but they market
the shit out of that to the point where you
think many people are like, oh, I really like the
trailers and I didn't love you in the movie as much.
But then you get into a pool of ring also
big hit Harold and the Pearl Crayon, there's a big loser.
It's like, uh, I can't remember the budget. It's like
a forty million or some but still only relate twenty three,
So not good. Zach rely if my kids want to
see if, I as like it's already a theater, so sorry,
you're not gonna but Zachary LEVI not someone you can
put your name on there port lads the crow eight
shit right, sorry eight ship. So that's why it shows.
We just had a bunch of movies and I think
he trapped, Like all right, right, Cuckoo still didn't do
the Gray. Wasn't surprised about that, just because it looks
like a very very odd movie. But that's just the case.
Alien Ron, it's gonna be the second best Alien of
all time. I think it's closing out on four hundred.
Somewhere in there. I'm doing a lot of stats looking
right here at Rowmulst. Let's see Didego check Alien review,
which I think I can't remember. I don't know if
it's did very well or Alienvie guy. It's very surprised
how well it did. Okay, now I'm wrong, So it's
running out more than three hundred million, but still eighty
million dollar budget for a movie they thought was gonna
go to Hulu. And this was the case I didn't
talk about as well too. Twisters was like this. I
think long Ley was like a little bit, uh, what
was it? Alien Rawmans was like this there and the
Dead Put. There's multiple movies that was reverse of the
tracking coming out and it doing like twenty million more,
twenty to thirty million more. And that's good even if
you're being, you know, a little conservative, it's better to
be more than Hey, we're tracking at thirty and then
the fall that comes out of like twenty four, you're like, oh,
what happened? There continues to drop and drop and it
looks good that narrative starts right, not that the GA cares,
but also just leaves leaders. They're gonna have less chance
to see it. And I've always said I get it
that people say, well, you know, they put a movie
out of the bombs, you may just get a viod
you make that money. But to me, that just still
trains people like, oh, if it's gonna bomb, I'm just
gonna sit back a way for it to get home.
You can still wait someone to maybe make that money.
I get marketing just happened, but I digress. That's up
for them to decide. But and lots of stuff coming
in the fall. So I think it just shows that
from the beginning of summer and the end of summer,
we had massive hits and we had some massive bombs,
and that's just the way it's gonna be. People are
gonna have to, you know, more pocket pinch, but we've
seen they do a pretty good job. That's still if
it's something they want to see. At the end day,
it says to be like they want to go see it,
They want to go pay their harder money. They want
to go get a ticket to see this, and even
if it's for a second time, they value their time
versus Okay, I'm gonna go see the crow or poor lands.
I think that people too. I think trailers are I've
always been important, but I feel like there's been a
lot of like, you know, crows and borderlands. To me,
those were not good trailers. And I think that has
a lot to do with the ga We'll see us
stuff like speak to No Evil does when there's like
ten million traits apparently, but it's been an interesting summer.
But I think it's taught me that it's pretty much
the way it used to be to a lower degree
as far as success, and you just never know what's
going to massively hit, and you never know it's gonna
massively bomb. Even though I would have said don't do
the Crow, I would definitely say don't do Borlands. But
even then, at Borlands I could see popular franchise. But
even then there's way other movies I would have done
before we get to a Borderland situation. You know, in
the gaming sphere, that's that's much lower on the list.
I get it that Take two is big, Oh give
it a chance, but as a viewer, I don't need to.
And there's still stuff like fucking make a looplist that's
projected like a forty four to five million opening weekend
supposed to flop, and that's where again I think that's
something where also he played his own money cope. Plus
that's fine, but people look at the movie like what
is this? And it might be too weird? Right, And
that's where for two years that movie to too big
of a budget. That might be tough. I'm personally I
don't thin even gonna see it. I think I'll see
in a way where I don't have to pay for
it when it's on streaming or something like that, or
if someone gets a coffy because I'm with the people,
where like Copla has been, Oh, didn't want this be
a anti will or didn't want this to be a
woke movie, so I hired a bunch of canceled people.
It's like, all right, but you've made that. I don't
want to give you any of my money because some
of the people, even though they're not canceled, it's just
the way he goes pelt that stuff. I'm just trying
to be super edgy. Said's like, okay, don't think I
need to support you there, And I think there's a
lot of people that will go okay. We spend a
lot of the summer, we're back to school, we're doing things,
and then we know there's a lot of movies coming
out in the summer or in September. I really hope
The Wild Robot does really well. Right, So we'll see
what happens in the next little bit here we'll talk
about more of the box office. But it's been nice
to see how well it has done. When the summer
was like doom and glooming, like we're fucked. Movies are
gonna only be the big ones and then we're going
back to just the streaming. They're gonna be opera houses yet.
But that's that's not the case right now, you know.
So I'm just trying to think there's anything else in
the thing. I don't know night Pitch is gonna do.
We'll talk about in the future on other news casts,
but uh, yeah, I know. I think that's about it
for the box office, for winners and loser. I guess.
I guess I had it on the list. It's not
a loser for a box office, but just for a
movie franchise in general. Rebel Moon Yike is that experiment
sure didn't work, And I think that's something that people
talked about. We talked about a many times of Costreme
because there people that thought it was a good idea,
the idea of well, you could put this out and
then it's double dipping because other people are coming in.
But I agreed with Ben from Real Anarchy. He's been
our tribute streamings before. A great guy. Me and him,
I think had similar concerns of well, what if you
watched that first one, and it doesn't make you interested
in more. And that's what happened to me. I think
he's seen it. I think he said there's better I've
heard of. It makes better to waste the time to
you know, X, Y and Z. But the idea that
the rumor is relevant moving three is not happening. And
then the Army University's dead. That's one thing with that
acolyte companies. I know, people go, oh, they're billion dollars
to make this money in minutes. I get it, but
they look at it a spreadsheet and they look at it.
How can I not have to worry about HI, finding
people I really really like, or my bottom line going away?
They take our bottom line, bottom line away first, right,
And it sucks. But that's what they kind of have
to do is watch after themselves and cut the chords
and cut the shows, cut the movies and production whatever
it may be, to help out with. And that's what
real moved. It's like, it's unfortunate. I love those Army movies.
I do like that he's talking about making a smaller one.
I think he's probably telling about that just because, like
I might not be able to get the budget from
somebody else. But I said that after BVS or after
Justice League, that he should go do just a small
character based thing. It's something john WICKI in a way,
even if you want to do something action with some budget,
but not obviously john Wick. But I'm looking forward to
see what he does next. But it is curious that it,
Like I said, I didn't love it, but it sucks
with people that did really really like the R movies
because there's a lot of them that seek highly of them,
especially at least the Zack Nyner one, and the fact
that those might be gone, that's like a big loser.
That show's two. Same thing. Just because you're on streaming
don't mean you're safe. Peell still need to come out.
Peiple still need to get you in the top ten.
But there you go. A little mini episode for Tres
told you I said, I don't think i'll be back
this month of the sole episode, but we'll probably do
a newscast lots of other things. So thank you very
much for listening to this. I promise hear from next
a lot be boring.