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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everyone, ready to dive deep into protective security. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking taking military grade defense strategies and applying them to

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<v Speaker 1>your digital life, your business, everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a hot topic for sure, especially now with everyone

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<v Speaker 2>so connected online big time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm curious, what do people get wrong about

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<v Speaker 1>protective security? Like, what are the biggest misconceptions you run.

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<v Speaker 2>Into a lot of folks think, oh, it's just cybersecurity, right,

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<v Speaker 2>firewalls and anti virus, that's it. But it's way bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to protect all your valuable stuff, digital, physical, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole nine yards.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense, not just reacting to stuff. Got to

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<v Speaker 1>be ahead of the game. So how does this book

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at today, how does it approach protective security?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll call it PS for short.

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<v Speaker 2>This book, it's all about a holistic approach, blend physical

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<v Speaker 2>and digital security. You gotta work together, can't separate.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, gotcha, I gotta be seamless.

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<v Speaker 2>The author uses this great analogy. Think of a military base. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a listening, layers of defense, right, fences, checkpoints, patrols,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole shebang. It makes you think, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>fortify our businesses the same way?

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<v Speaker 1>I like that layers of defense. But where do you

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<v Speaker 1>even begin?

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<v Speaker 2>Start with the crown jewels?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, What are your most critical assets? What can your

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<v Speaker 2>business absolutely not function without?

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<v Speaker 1>For sure? For some it's their brick and mortar store,

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<v Speaker 1>others it's their website, their platform.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly protect that core that's step one.

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<v Speaker 1>So we figure out what needs protecting.

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<v Speaker 2>Then what then you build outward layers of protection around

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<v Speaker 2>those core assets. That's where the author's military background really

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<v Speaker 2>shines through.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, interesting, Earlier you said PS isn't just reacting, got

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<v Speaker 1>to be proactive. How do we get into that mindset?

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<v Speaker 1>What does the book say?

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<v Speaker 2>He talks about having a military mindset draws from his

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<v Speaker 2>experience managing security for high risk military flights. And these

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<v Speaker 2>weren't your average trips. We're talking high ranking officials, nighttime flights,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of tension.

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<v Speaker 1>High stakes. I bet the planning was intense. How to

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<v Speaker 1>have everything covered? How does that apply to us regular

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<v Speaker 1>folk running businessinesses?

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<v Speaker 2>Think about it, whether it's a new product launch or

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<v Speaker 2>you're handling sensitive customer data. Curveballs happen, right, unexpected stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This PS approach, it's like having a plan for the

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<v Speaker 2>what ifs, minimizing the damage those surprises can do.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes a lot of sense being ready for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So planning mindset, that's huge. You got it now. This

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<v Speaker 1>book also mentions compliance. Lots of people think if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>meeting the standards, I'm golden right yeh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where they get tripped up. Compliance that's just the

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<v Speaker 2>bare minimum, the starting line, not to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a story in the book author had to turn

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<v Speaker 2>this RAF base into a civilian compliance facility for a

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<v Speaker 2>big event, even with his military background. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>whole other beast.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes you think God adapt to different rules, different situations.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do we go beyond just checking boxes? How

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<v Speaker 1>do we build real resilience?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you were saying, got to be constantly checking your systems,

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<v Speaker 2>your processes, looking for weak spots. Always got to be

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<v Speaker 2>adapting to new threats. Compliance tells you what to do,

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<v Speaker 2>but real ps it's about understanding why and making your

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<v Speaker 2>defenses stronger every.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, always going to be one step ahead. So any

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<v Speaker 1>practical tips stuff listeners can do right now to get

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<v Speaker 1>on that proactive path.

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<v Speaker 2>First off, ditch the basic checklist mentality. Ask yourself, am

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<v Speaker 2>I really building security into everything I do? Then think

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<v Speaker 2>like the bad guys, what's vulnerable in my organization? What

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<v Speaker 2>are they going to come after?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great exercise. And speaking of vulnerabilities, the book

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<v Speaker 1>talks a lot about the human firewall. Why is that

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<v Speaker 1>so important?

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<v Speaker 2>Technology is great, but human error that's often the weakest link.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this crazy story in the book, a counterintelligence operation

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<v Speaker 2>almost blew up all because of one wrong word.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa Okay, I'm hooked. Tell me more about this operation,

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<v Speaker 1>what went wrong? What can we learn from it?

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<v Speaker 2>Undercover agents, fake identities, high stakes mission, the whole bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's going perfect, and so boom, one agent slips up,

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<v Speaker 2>uses a word that blows their cover, almost cause an

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<v Speaker 2>international incident.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, even spies, one word can make or break them exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why training, communication, understanding how people think, it's all crucial,

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<v Speaker 2>a human firewall. It's about creating a culture where everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>trained to spot those red flags, no matter how small

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<v Speaker 2>they seem.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's got to be on their toes part of the

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<v Speaker 1>security team.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. That takes clear communication, training and knowing

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<v Speaker 2>how people tick the whole package.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking about that operation, maybe having codewords, specific protocols could

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<v Speaker 1>have prevented that whole mess.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right on the money. Having set responses for those

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<v Speaker 2>tense situations. It takes the pressure off thinking on.

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<v Speaker 1>Your feet exactly. Systems and procedures, not just individual judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta have both.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of systems, the author talks about resilience like a

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<v Speaker 2>shipbuild for storms. Your business it needs to wather those

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<v Speaker 2>cyber attacks and disruptions come out stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just preventing bad stuff, it's about bouncing

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<v Speaker 1>back when it does happen. What are the building blocks

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<v Speaker 1>of resilience? What does the book say?

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<v Speaker 2>Three key things? Active planning what if scenarios. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to have those plans ready. Then solid incident response, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what to do when the alarm bells ring. And lastly,

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<v Speaker 2>strong communication. Everyone knows who to contact, what to do

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<v Speaker 2>when things hit the fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a fire drill, but for the digital world, you

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<v Speaker 1>got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't wait for a fire to figure out your

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<v Speaker 1>Now I got to hear about this story with the

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<v Speaker 1>author's military dog. Sounds like a lesson in adaptability thinking

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<v Speaker 1>fast under pressure security exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, author and his dog. They're supposed to catch a

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<v Speaker 2>bad guy, but then the dog gets distracted by a

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<v Speaker 2>totally unrelated scent through the whole plan off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, what did he do?

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<v Speaker 2>Had to improvise and fast he readjusted, came up with

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<v Speaker 2>a new strategy on the fly, finished the exercise. Despite

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<v Speaker 2>the curve ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Shows you resilience isn't just about tech. Got to have

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<v Speaker 1>the right mindset, be prepared for anything, and a well

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<v Speaker 1>trained dog probably doesn't hurt either.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, It's about adaptability, being resourceful, and thinking on your feet.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a great one look at the core

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<v Speaker 1>principles of protective security. But let's get practical. What are

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<v Speaker 1>some concrete steps people can take to actually implement these principles.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll dig into those strategies in the next part of

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<v Speaker 1>our deep dive.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's get into the nitty gritty, some real

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<v Speaker 2>tactics you can use to amp up your protective security game.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it. Let's get practical. We've talked a mindset, the

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<v Speaker 1>human firewall, thinking like an attacker.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what the book talks about safeguarding your sensitive info.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to use different security classifications like the military does

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<v Speaker 2>confidential secret, you know that kind of thing. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>to categorize your data based on how sensitive it is

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<v Speaker 2>and protect it accordingly makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Not all data is created equal. Some stuff needs way

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<v Speaker 1>more protection than others.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, like customer financial data. That's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be Fort Knox level security, multiple layers of protection, encryption,

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<v Speaker 2>access controls, the works.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do we decide which level is right for what?

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<v Speaker 1>Any guidelines frameworks we can follow.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of organizations, they use a risk base to

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<v Speaker 2>approach what's the worst that could happen if this data

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<v Speaker 2>gets out? Financial damage, legal trouble, reputation hit. The bigger

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<v Speaker 2>the potential impact, the stronger the security.

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<v Speaker 1>So play out the worst case scenario that helps us prioritize.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And it's not just digital stuff, physical documents. Prototypes

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<v Speaker 2>got to secure those two. The book talks about using

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<v Speaker 2>persistent storage containers basically really good safes, lock cabinets, even

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated rooms with controlled access.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a real life vault for your top secret stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly right. Now, let's talk encryption. It's a must have

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<v Speaker 2>for protecting data, whether it's moving around or just sitting there.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of it like putting your confidential info in a

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<v Speaker 2>coded message. Only the right people of the key.

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<v Speaker 1>So scrambled up, so even if someone gets it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gibberish without the key, right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's different types of encryption, some more complex than others.

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<v Speaker 2>The key is got to choose the right level of

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<v Speaker 2>security depends on how sensitive the info is.

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<v Speaker 1>So my grocery list probably doesn't need the same encryption

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<v Speaker 1>as say, government secrets exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>For everyday stuff, AES encryption that's pretty solid used all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place. For super sensitive data, you might need

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<v Speaker 2>something even stronger like RSA. That's the big leagues used

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<v Speaker 2>for online transactions and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting to see how all these different methods they add

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<v Speaker 1>up to those layers of defense in the digital world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about making it as hard as possible for

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<v Speaker 2>the bad guys to get their hands on your data. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>another important piece of the puzzle is information processing. Got

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<v Speaker 2>to understand how information moves around in your organization. That's

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<v Speaker 2>where you find vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just about protecting the data itself. Got to know

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<v Speaker 1>its whole journey.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, where's the data stored, how's it transmitted?

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<v Speaker 2>Who can see it? Map out those processes and boom,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll find the weak spots that need extra protection.

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<v Speaker 1>Like making a blueprint of your information and then fortifying

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<v Speaker 1>it against attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly Think of it like a supply chain. Every step

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<v Speaker 2>from creating the data to storing it to sending it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a potential weak point.

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<v Speaker 1>That mapping exercise that's got to be super helpful. Really

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<v Speaker 1>helps visualize the flow and see where you need to

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<v Speaker 1>tighten things up.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Now let's talk about staying ahead of the curve.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to keep up with those emerging threats. The book

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<v Speaker 2>talks about vulnerability and impact management, things like vulnerability scanning

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<v Speaker 2>and penetration testing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, those sound intense, What do those even involve?

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<v Speaker 2>Vulnerability scanning, think of it like a health check for

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<v Speaker 1>Do.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of tools out there, some free, some of you

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<v Speaker 2>got to pay for, depends on your needs.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically scanning for non issues, patching them up before

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<v Speaker 1>they become a.

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<v Speaker 2>Problem, right, and then penetration testing that takes it a

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<v Speaker 2>step further. You're simulating real attacks seeing if your defense

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<v Speaker 2>is hold up.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're hiring good hackers to try and break in

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<v Speaker 1>expose those weak points.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the idea. You can do it in house or

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<v Speaker 2>hire a specialized firm. The goal is find the holes

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a controlled experiment. See where you're vulnerable and

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<v Speaker 1>shore things up exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The author also says, got to have a clear incident

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. Even with the best security, stuff happens.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not just panicking? You have a playbook minimize

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, a well rehearsed plan that can be the difference

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing this plan should cover everything from figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, and just like those fire drills, got

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<v Speaker 2>to test it regularly, keep it updated. The threats are

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<v Speaker 1>So we've talked data, physical security, encryption, how information moves around,

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<v Speaker 1>and having a plan for when things go wrong. What

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to that human firewall idea. The book's

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about training awareness, making it everyone's responsibility, but

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<v Speaker 2>Make security training fun, Get rid of those boring lectures.

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<v Speaker 2>Use real stories like that counterintelligence op. Show people what

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<v Speaker 1>People remember stories, they connect with them. It makes it real.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. In communication, it's got to be clear

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<v Speaker 2>simple security policies. They shouldn't be written in some secret code.

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<v Speaker 1>Securitious everyone's job, not just for the IT folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. The author also talks about strict access restrictions. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Different clearance levels, top secret stuff only certain people can get.

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<v Speaker 2>In exactly you want the least privileged principle. People only

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<v Speaker 2>this story the author had to stand up to a

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<v Speaker 2>you rules or rules, everyone follows them, no exceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>access rules, Going to monitor those logs, see who's doing what,

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<v Speaker 1>Looking for anything suspicious, anything out at the ordinary. What

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<v Speaker 2>Someone failing to log in, over and over, accessing data

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<v Speaker 1>Like being a detective spotting those little clues that something's fishy.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. The faster you catch those potential threats,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we covered building that human firewall. Now what

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<v Speaker 1>about resilience. We talked about planning, having a response planned,

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<v Speaker 2>Got to test those resilience plans, see if they actually work.

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<v Speaker 2>Simulate different scenarios cyber attacks, natural disasters, even internal stuff

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<v Speaker 2>It helps you find the weak points in your plans,

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<v Speaker 2>make them better and builds confidence that you can handle

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<v Speaker 2>whatever comes your way.

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<v Speaker 1>And learning from past incidents, your own and others. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Huge, huge, every incident, big or small, it's a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to learn and improve. The author, he's all about continuous improvement.

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<v Speaker 2>Mistakes aren't failures, they're lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn those O crap moments into learning experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Now, let's talk about your supply chain. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>those third party vendors you work with. The book talks

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<v Speaker 2>about attacks targeting them being a growing threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense. It's easier to go after the week link

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<v Speaker 1>sneak in the back door, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, you got to check those vendor security, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>they're up to your standards. Just because they're a big

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<v Speaker 1>That security mindset, I got to extend it beyond your

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<v Speaker 1>own walls out to everyone you work with. So how

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<v Speaker 1>do we do that? Check their security? What should we

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<v Speaker 1>be looking for?

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<v Speaker 2>The book recommends a risk based approach. Focus on the

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<v Speaker 2>vendors handling your most sensitive stuff, the ones critical to

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<v Speaker 2>your operations. Ask them about their policies, their incident response,

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<v Speaker 2>their training programs. Don't be shy about asking tough questions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about doing your homework, being as picky about their

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, don't just take their word for it. Ask for

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<v Speaker 1>And once you've picked your vendors, how do you make

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<v Speaker 2>That's where contracts come in. Spell out those security requirements,

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<v Speaker 2>data encryption, access controls, the whole nine yards. Make it

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<v Speaker 2>legally binding. They're accountable for protecting your.

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<v Speaker 1>Data, not just trusting them. Got to have it in writing,

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<v Speaker 1>hold them to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, and don't just forget about it. Monitor them,

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<v Speaker 2>check those security audits, see if they're getting any vulnerability notices,

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<v Speaker 2>do regular assessments, make sure they're doing what they promised

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<v Speaker 2>and keeping up the latest best practices.

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<v Speaker 1>Like having a security checkpoint for your supply chain. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>coming in got to meet the standards exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we've talked a lot about doing all this security stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but how do we convince the people holding the purse strings,

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<v Speaker 2>the ones you've got to sign off on the budget.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we show them it's worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the million dollar question. Security often gets seen as

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<v Speaker 1>a money pit, not something that makes money. How do

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<v Speaker 2>Got to show them the ROI, the return on investment,

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<v Speaker 2>make a business case for security, show them it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just a cost.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you measure that you're trying to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>something from happening. It's hard to quantify.

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<v Speaker 2>Flip the script. Instead of the cost of security, talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the cost of not having it. What if you

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<v Speaker 2>get hit with a major data breach. What's he going

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<v Speaker 2>to do to your revenue, your reputation, your customers.

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<v Speaker 1>Put a dollar amount on those potential losses. Show them

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<v Speaker 1>that's the price of doing nothing exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also highlight the positives good security. It can

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<v Speaker 2>lower your insurance costs, help you meet those regulations, even

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<v Speaker 2>attract customers who care about data privacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are all benefits that hit the bottom line. They

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<v Speaker 1>get that.

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<v Speaker 2>The author also says, use mech track how well your

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<v Speaker 2>security is working. How many vulnerabilities did you find and fix?

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<v Speaker 2>How fast did you respond to that incident? How much

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<v Speaker 2>did that breach cost you?

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<v Speaker 1>Show them the data, prove that the money's making a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, before we go on, got to talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>key principle from the book, The Holistic Approach to Protective Security.

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<v Speaker 1>We touched on it before, but what does it really mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about looking at security from all angles, not just

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<v Speaker 2>the tech stuff, physical security, creating that security culture, managing

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<v Speaker 2>risks across the whole organization, even thinking about employee well being,

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<v Speaker 2>mental health, It all ties.

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<v Speaker 1>In security is not just an IT problem. It's everyone's problem.

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<v Speaker 1>God have that big picture view.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and it's never finished. It's a journey. Got to

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<v Speaker 2>keep improving, keep evaluating, keep adapting to the new threats.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to stay ahead of the curve. The bad guys

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<v Speaker 1>aren't standing still.

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<v Speaker 2>The author actually suggests using this acordym bridges as a

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<v Speaker 2>framework for your security strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Bridges, Okay, that's interesting. Break it down for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It stands for business, Risk, Identify, detect, govern, evaluate, and survive.

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<v Speaker 2>Each one's a step in building that comprehensive security program.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a roadmap for security. Make sure you cover all

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<v Speaker 1>the bases exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Business means your security's got align with your business goals. Risk,

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<v Speaker 2>Understand those threats, identify, find those weaknesses, detect, know when

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<v Speaker 2>something's happening. Govern, have those policies and procedures in place. Evaluate,

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<v Speaker 2>Test everything, make sure it's working, and survive. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>about resilience, making sure your business keeps running.

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<v Speaker 1>Love how this breaks it down makes it less overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great guide for your strategy. Keeps you on

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked a lot about the practical stuff, the frameworks,

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<v Speaker 1>but what about leadership. What role do they play in

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<v Speaker 2>The book's really clear strong leadership, it's essential for a

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<v Speaker 2>security conscious culture. Leaders They set the tone, They provide

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<v Speaker 2>the resources they got to make it clear to everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>security matters. Story the author had to convince this high

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<v Speaker 2>ranking military officer to invest in a new security system.

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<v Speaker 2>The officer wasn't buying it.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a classic case of needing to prove

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<v Speaker 1>the value speak their language. How did he do it?

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<v Speaker 2>He stopped talking tech jargon, focused on the consequences. What

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<v Speaker 2>if we get hacked? What's it going to cost us?

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<v Speaker 2>He made a clear case the new system, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to reduce risks, protect our assets, help us succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Shows you communication is key insecurity, just like everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, and when the leaders prioritize security, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>else gets the message it matters. He creates this environment

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<v Speaker 2>where everyone feels like they're part of the solution.

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<v Speaker 1>We've covered so much the human firewall, supply chain, incident response.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a lot, but what are the big takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>that things people should keep in mind as they start

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've covered a ton, from those critical assets to

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<v Speaker 2>building that human firewall, even securing the supply chain. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to take in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a wild ride for sure, you know, going

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<v Speaker 1>through all this it makes me think back to the

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<v Speaker 1>early Internet days. Simpler times, right, totally back then, a

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<v Speaker 1>password that was all you needed to worry about.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy how much things have changed. Cybersecurity used to be

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<v Speaker 2>about protecting your own computer from those viruses. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>whole networks, data centers, even critical infrastructure, and the attackers

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<v Speaker 2>they've gotten a lot more sophisticated.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a whole different ballgame now, way higher stakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely one good cyber attack and businesses are crippled, services

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<v Speaker 2>shut down, could even be national security issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of scary when you think about it, makes all

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<v Speaker 1>this protective security stuff feel even more important, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt, we can't just bury our heads in the

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<v Speaker 2>sand and hope for the best. But the good news

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<v Speaker 2>is this book. It gives us some real tools to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely feeling more prepared after going through all this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about being paranoid. It's about taking control, protecting

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<v Speaker 2>That's the spirit, and for me, the biggest takeaway is

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<v Speaker 2>that proactive whole approach. You're not just waiting for something

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<v Speaker 2>bad to happen. You're out there anticipating threats, building up

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<v Speaker 2>your defenses, making security part of your.

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<v Speaker 1>Culture, switching from defense to offense, being the aggressor.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exactly got to be vigilant, know what the bad

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<v Speaker 2>guys are up to, and always be improving your security game.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you had to pick just one strategy from

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<v Speaker 1>all this, what would it be. What's the most impactful

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<v Speaker 1>thing people can do right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm, tough question, but I'd say invest in security awareness

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<v Speaker 2>training for every single employee. We've said it before, human

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<v Speaker 2>air that's the weak spot. If everyone knows how to

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<v Speaker 2>spot those red flags, report suspicious stuff, that's a powerful defense,

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<v Speaker 2>stronger than any tech you can buy.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense, build up that human firewall. Everyone's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the security team.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and it's not a one time thing. Got to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the training going, keep people up to date on

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<v Speaker 2>the latest threats, the new tricks the bad guys are.

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<v Speaker 1>Using, so regular refreshers, maybe some simulations even make it fun,

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<v Speaker 1>a little competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it. The more you can make security part of

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<v Speaker 2>everyday life at work, the better.

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<v Speaker 1>And like the book says, it's not just checking a

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<v Speaker 1>box and forgetting about it. It's a never ending journey.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. Security is not a finish line. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a constant process. Got to keep learning, adapting, evolving.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's next For our listeners who are ready to

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<v Speaker 1>take action? Where do they start?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that Bridge's framework that's a great roadmap, breaks the

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<v Speaker 2>whole process down into manageable steps.

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<v Speaker 1>Right business, risk, identify, detect, govern evaluate, survive.

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<v Speaker 2>Start by looking in the mirror. How's your security right now?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you good at? What needs work? Then focus

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<v Speaker 2>on the biggest risks you're facing.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't try to boil the ocean. Start small, make those

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<v Speaker 1>improvements over time.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember it's not just about tech, it's the people,

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<v Speaker 2>the processes, the whole culture. Create an environment where everyone

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<v Speaker 2>feels like they're part of the security team. They're empowered

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<v Speaker 2>to contribute awesome advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Any final thoughts for our listeners before we.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrap up, Stay curious, stay alert, and never stop learning.

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<v Speaker 2>The bad guys are always coming up with new stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got.

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<v Speaker 1>To stay ahead of them and don't be afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for help. There's tons of resources out there, consultants, organizations,

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<v Speaker 1>even the government. They can help you out.

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<v Speaker 2>This deep dive into protective security. It's been a blast

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<v Speaker 2>what we've talked about today. It's just the tip of

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<v Speaker 2>the iceberg. Take what you've learned, explore those areas that

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<v Speaker 2>really hit home, and start building that strong security strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for joining us

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<v Speaker 1>on this deep dive. We hope you got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>And to everyone listening, stay safe out there, stay secure,

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<v Speaker 1>and stay ahead of the game in this crazy digital world.
