Speaker 1: Time for keeping up with the cougars. Brought to you
by Odion Men'swear, proudly outfitting young professionals, young adults, boys
and missionaries across the globe with quality suits and apparel.
Find a location near you or Odeonmenswear dot Com.
Speaker 2: Welcome back sports.
Speaker 3: One three nine ninety eight point three ESBN demand on
me for the roundest our manvalimand Well dot Com get
out to bring Q and A no obligation to invest
Q and A with our tax more wealth advisors Today
the Agent support you to your quest for financial stability
and sustainabability and help you save money on your taxes.
At the end of the year, it is time for
a little college football commentary. Welcoming a UH former by
you great to discuss it all a quarterback scientists as well.
It's going to be brought to you by Odion Menswear.
Odeon Menswear dot Com. Utilize the Crudal fifteen coupon code
online to get fifteen percent offoorre. You can check out
all their cyber Monday sales going on. Get an appointments
set up today with Odeon Men'swear. Missionary Attire, Business attire,
Church attire, Nobody does it better than odion Men's word.
Let him know I sent you for VIP products, VIP service,
VIP discounts.
Speaker 2: Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome and former BYU. Great.
We got John Beck on the line. John, how are
you oh?
Speaker 4: Hanging in there? Ben? A little tough weekend, lost in
the championship game down here in CIF finals, So a
little bit of a tough pill to swallow in the
Beck couse. It was hard, but we're gonna move forward.
Speaker 2: What does the pipe chart of accountability look like? Due
to that loss?
Speaker 3: I mean, what does that look like when you went
back and watch tape? You know, what would you have
changed about that game?
Speaker 4: I mean it's like any loss in a championship game, right,
you just you go back and you look at like
what plays impacted the momentum of the game, what plays
in critical situations impacted the game? And you know it's
never you know, it's never about one guy or one
position or something like that. It's always just like man
as a team, you watch yourself put in the work,
the effort, you execute and all the games leading up
and you take advantage of opportunity. And we were actually
at one point ahead seventeen to three in the second quarter,
and they took advantage of some opportunities on some drives.
We weren't able to connect on some critical situations, settled
for field goals at other times, and in the second
half kind of we're reeling a little bit, trying to
piece together drives and they had some momentum that they
capitalized on, and unfortunate at the end we lost by thirteen.
So it's tough, man. It's tough being a coach on
the team, helping out all throughout the year, having a
son that was playing quarterback for us, all those things
just make you way more invested, and so it hurts.
It hurts for the seniors. You know, you hurt for
all the other coaches and players that have put in
a lot of time and effort because you're right there.
The game was actually at a home field also, and
so it's like what could have been, you know, could
have been that historic, amazing moment right on our field
with our fans, and ended up being gut wrenching and
just walking off the field and then you know, you
didn't think you're going to lose it, and somehow the
end you do.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry that the Begs didn't get their championship,
but hey, you learn more through your losses than you
do your wins.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, that's what we're kind of holding on to
for the future years. You know, my son's young, just
a sophomore, and we got a lot of other young
players on the team, and you know, you got to
tip your hat to the other team. They made a
lot of plays and you know, we had some good
conversations about what you learn from those experiences, what you
gain and managing some of the situations differently, and also
the fire that burns within you when you get that
close and you have all of that motivation heading into
the offseason, and how great that can be. And in comparison,
sometimes when you win all of the time, you don't
necessarily feel the same way, you don't hurt the same way,
and you don't have that same fire when things are
always going good. And I think that's why sometimes the
losses can really propel you forward in a way wins can't.
Speaker 3: John Beck here on ESPN the Fan Little College Football segment,
there's a lot of chaos bruin on but let's uh,
let's talk.
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk about the chaos real quick.
Speaker 3: There have been now reports and I've been able to
confirm these from multiple sources, that that Penn State is
aggressively sought uh to to offer Kalini Satocki the next
head coaching job at Penn State.
Speaker 2: Kilani and his agents have have heard it. Now.
Speaker 3: He went in front of the media early today and said, like,
I'm not going to discuss any you know, rumors. I'm
focused on the big Toeal Championship, but he didn't deny
those conversations had been executed.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy to me. Kilani is b
Yu threw and through.
Speaker 3: Obviously it's important from a professional standpoint to hear these
offerings and then to go back to the negotiating table
with BA and say.
Speaker 2: Hey, this is what I'm being offered.
Speaker 3: You know, what is it that you're going to do,
and to invest in the future, invest in me, invest
in our coaching staff, invest in Nil. What do you
make of all the chaos that's occurring right now surrounding
BYU and.
Speaker 4: The like, Well, I mean it's one of those without
saying too much things just because of the connections I have.
Kilanie's agent was my agent that I had when I
was a player that I still stay in contact with,
and so like, look the reality. I mean, it's kind
of crazy. I literally just got off the phone with
that agent about other things regarding NFL draft prep stuff
right before this calls. Here. Here's the thing. It's amazing
for Kilani because of the person that he is, the
success that BAU has been able to have. Of course,
teams are going to be coming after a guy like
him who has led the program the way he has.
It's because of everything that Byu has done. Of course,
major programs are going to be coming after him. And truthfully,
there is always way more that most people know in
terms of the teams that are coming after Kilanie. Talking
to Kilanie right like this is just one of those
ones that you know, enough smoke or like enough was
the round there of other people hearing that. Now, how
you know the world's finding out or Kugar Nation is
finding out. But when when you have the type of
success that they've had, every school wants consistency, and if
you look at Kilane and what he has been at BYU,
it has been very consistent. And I know that there's
been a few years that were rough years, but overall,
the consistency has been there. You look at his staff, consistency,
people staying, you look at the what it happened the
last two years. By U is arguably one of the
most consistent winnable programs in the country over the last
two years. So yes, the Penn States of the world
are going to be coming after him. I think Kilani
loves BYU. This is not a thing of does he
love BYU or not. Everybody knows how much it means
to him. Everybody knows how much of the season means
to him. I know that probably BUYU and Kugarnation is
freaking out because of we're all watching the Lane Kiffin
situation happened, and a guy gets, you know, the opportunity
to go to LSU, and all miss fans who a
few days ago absolutely loved him are now showing up
at the airport screaming and yelling at him, you know,
and hating him. You know. Good buddy of mine called
me today and was like, I hope he never ever
steps foot in Mississippi again, you know. I mean, look,
it's tough. It's tough when you feel like there's a
chance of somebody getting pulled away. I think that I'm
sure all of the football people are focusing on what
matters most, and that's the Big Chop Championship. I'm sure
that everyone in the building cares more about that right
now than anything else. I'm sure Colanie is the same way,
everything that you put into it. I just think it's
probably harder for everybody else on the outside because they
don't know what's going on. You know, these type of
things don't just happen overnight those schools like a Penn State,
even though everybody's finding out about it in the last
few days. Those type of things don't happen over the
last few days. Those things happen over weeks. And so look,
it's just going to continue Kilanie. You know, you have
to give him space to do what he fills his
best and whatever he does, I'm happy for him, you know,
either way, I want to see him stay at bau Do.
I love what you has become with him at the Helm.
I love the person that Kilanie is. But that's ultimately
his decision and no one else's. So we'll just have
to all sit back and see what happens.
Speaker 2: BYU was his dream job, BYU is his dream job?
Speaker 3: What would entice someone to leave their dream job, right,
what is it, you know, just generational money that would
do that?
Speaker 2: Is it the feeling of.
Speaker 3: You know, I remember when Bronco was at BYU, it
kind of always felt like he didn't get respect, maybe
from fans and maybe he didn't give it to them donors,
maybe the administration. He always felt like he was fighting
an internal battle. I don't think that that's Kilanie, But
at the same time, you wonder it's like, okay, generational
money versus you know, a feeling of respect and mutual
mutual respect for a job well done, et cetera. But
you know, wanted to get your thoughts. Why would you
leave a a job that was your dream job.
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't speak for what Kloni is going through,
but I can just tell you from the men that
I've been around and seen them in similar situations. I've
seen some people it's about a new challenge. It's about
they love the new challenge of something. For other people,
it's it's stuff has been weighing on them. You might
not know what goes on behind closed doors. You might
not know the relationships that are happening. And even though
the program is winning, what's the conversations happening behind closed
doors with the upper level people there, you know, like
how much support does the person always feel at all
times to do what he wants to do. Sometimes when
these other schools come calling, it's with you know, people
think it's with oh, because they have the open checkbook,
it's about money, But a lot of it comes down
to the conversations about about support, about like aligning themselves
with the vision that that coach has. You know, you
want to feel alignment in the NFL. You call it
to ups in the downstairs, right, Like the upstairs it's
all the management people. It's your scouting department, it's your
general manager, it's the president, it's all of those people
in the downstairs as the football people. You want there
to be alignment within the upstairs and the downstairs. And
I can't speak for what level of alignment is going on,
you know, but like it can be some of those
things too. Of you know, you're hearing somebody offer a
situation that might be enticing because of that, Like I
know for people that like, oh my gosh, you could
never pass up one hundred million dollars, like well, one
hundred million dollars doesn't bring happiness, it just brings a
little bit more comfort. I guarantee there are things that
he's having to think about about his family, about his children,
about the location. I mean, there are so many things
that go into this. It's not just the hell. You know,
how thick can we fill up my pockets? And Klane
is such a good guy that cares so deeply about BYU.
I like, I know all of those things have to
be going through his mind. And I mean, you know,
you talk about Bronco. I remember how shocked we all
were when like when Bronco left and Bronco had his
reasons right, and I think Holly even I read a
statement one time the Holly said, the shoes shocked, you know,
and that's his partner, you know, that's his spouse. Like
sometimes internally inside of all of us, you know, like
there are just things that feel compelling, that feel motivational.
Why do families just sometimes pack up and move and say,
Jackson Hole, Wyoming was calling us and we felt like
that's where we needed to be. Like we can't argue
with that. If a person has that feeling inside of
them that it feels right, And I'm not saying that
he's experiencing any of that, but I just think if
I was in that position, a place that I loved,
that I had dreamed of coaching at, and yet these
some other place that I had never imagined was coming calling,
I would probably go through that internal struggle of what
should I do? And you know, what's right for my
family first and foremost what's right for me. I would
consult with my heavenly father of you know, is like,
is this the right thing for us? And crap, if
if I had all of the feelings that I was
supposed to pack up the family and go, you know,
you got to honor a man's compelling reasons and his
and his like design for his life of what he
feels like he's being called to do. And if that's
the case, then you just thank the person for everything
that they did and you wish them all the best. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I've been told two stories here and I want
to get your thoughts on it. Number One, Klan he
met with with Brian Shane, Shane Reece Keith working and
they came to an accord that would be deemed a
fair market value and investment in the program that is
based off of the the last six years of productivity
under Klane.
Speaker 2: And his vision.
Speaker 3: And now that that those requests, whatever the pay raise is,
whatever the institutional investment will be for coaches and ni
L for the players, will be evaluated by Elder Clark
Gilbert over CS, he oversees b YU, and then that
will be run up the food chain, the chain of command,
if you will, to the board of Trustees and the
Church of Jesus Christ Letter Saints leadership.
Speaker 2: Right, that's got to be approved.
Speaker 3: The other story, and there's optimism brewing that that we
can figure this out, especially because of what's been invested
in basketball over the years the last two years, specifically
with an NBA coaching staff essentially and NIL offering that
is as competitive as anybody's within hoop. So that's the
first story I've been told. The second story is one
that he's already gone. He's already in principle agreed to
to coach at Penn State, and Penn State's creating a
very aggressive push to get him and any coaches and
any players and executing helping him find more inroads with
Northeast recruiting. But they want him to be that figurehead
that visionary and that b Yu would you know, then
resort to finding that next head coach because they can't
compete resource wise with a eight figure sum and essentially
unlimited resource is that Kilani would receive at Pench State.
So you hear those two stories, they're kind of conflicting
from credible sources. Mind you like, they're they're from credible sources,
and uh, you know, I felt, you know, when I
heard each one of these stories, I felt pretty confident
that they were accurate. And I know you have your
you're abreast of a lot of different things that we are. Uh.
I guess can you ease the uh the tension and
maybe the anxiety of cougarnation with anything right now?
Speaker 2: John?
Speaker 4: I mean I I honestly can't. I just you know,
I'm sure if like my life depended on it and
I got to go find out what's going on, but
I kind of just you know, I mean, look like
the reality is something that as you were talking, I
was thinking about something else that all head coaches care
deeply about is their assistance. Yeah, because you know that
you are only as good as the people around you.
It goes for players. The game is about players. You
got to have good football players. If you want to
be a good football team, it doesn't matter how good
of a staff you have, how smart of a staff
you have, Like you have to have good football players.
And then if you have good football players but you
don't have good teachers, you don't have people that can
help the kids understand, that can help them feel confident
in what they're being asked to do. They can they
can make adjustments in games. If you don't have that,
I don't care how talented the kids are, they can't
go do it on their own. You have to have both.
And so, like I know in these things that he's
going through, he's thinking about his assistants. He's thinking about
all of those guys and saying, like what, you know,
how might their lives change? How might their trajectory change?
Like is BYU the dream job of all of those assistants?
Do all of those guys plan on staying there forever?
Like we all hope? You know, Like what if a
lot of those guys have big dreams of trajectory of
going other places? You know, you look at some of
the guys on the staff that aren't of the LEDs faith,
Like I guarantee for most of them, they probably weren't
even thinking BYU is going to be on their road map,
you know, as a landing spot. But there they are,
and they probably have had a great experience, but they
got high hopes and big dreams and maybe landing somewhere else.
And sometimes it's going to those bigger schools that springboard
some of those guys. And sometimes it's the opportunity to
be paid more at one stop that elevates you in
terms of your pay. If there's other stops after that one,
you know, And you know, here's thing too, We all
know how difficult the coaching life is for college coaches.
It is a hard life. It's a hard life in
spring when you're on the road for all the recruiting.
It's a hard life in season. The coaching life is
a tough life, and people want to feel like they've
earned their pay, meaning like I'm getting paid what I deserve,
you know, And a head coach he wants every person
on that staff to be able to maximize their ability
to have that feeling I am getting paid what I
deserve and I'm maximizing my potential as a coach in
earning Because a lot of wives and a lot of
kids go without seeing their dads for a lot of
the time during the year during football season. And I
was in that position, I would on a want all
of those people helping me on that staff to be
paid as much as they possibly can for their major sacrifices.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. John.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about players too, Like we see these moves
that occurr in college football and coordinators go with them,
and you wonder, Okay, well, your position coach and your
coordinator matter a lot the scheme that you're running. The
continuity chemistry means a lot there, and that will also
impact BYU's roster and and so you wonder It's like, okay,
let's say Killani goes And I'm not saying he is.
I'm just saying, like, what if he does, does a
Rod go with him? And as an extension of that,
does bear Bachmeyer go with him?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That these are all domino effects that we could we
could see happening this offseason.
Speaker 4: They are, They absolutely are. Here's what I would do
if I was the all of YU fans right now
that are sitting at their workstations stressing out over what's
going to happen. Here's what I do. I would remind
myself that BYU has one of the biggest games in
the history of the program happening on Saturday, and that
is what's the biggest thing. And I know it's the
biggest thing for the coaches, it's the biggest thing for
the players, and this should be something for fans to enjoy. Like,
as frustrated as I am about my team's loss on
Saturday and all the ways that I feel like maybe
I could have done a better job to help out,
I would be completely lying if I didn't say a
part of me looked up an ESPN and saw that
BYU plays against Texas Tech this Saturday, and wasn't hyped
to hope that these guys can pull off this big
win because it would be monumental, historic, all of those things.
And I know the guys on that staff well enough
to know they are not sitting at their offices right
now writing down a piece of paper of pros and
cons of should I stay, what's going to happen if
Kilane leaves. They know it's out of their hands, Like
they don't have control over what the head coach does.
Think back to when bronkle end that Hall made his decision,
he had coaches that were out on the road doing
recruiting when they found out that he was leaving the school.
So like, ultimately Klanie's the one that holds the decision.
All of those assistants, I promise they know that what's
out of their hands is out of their hands, and
what's within their control is the game on Saturday. And
they're working their butts off, they're preparing their butts off
the players. They're not I doubt they're stressing about it.
They got bigger fish to Friday this Saturday. They have
a team that they know is one of the best
teams in the country. And like competitive people, this is
where the like the thing's different. Competitive people know how
to separate things and they know how to say where
do I put my time, effort, effort and energy, and
they say, I'm going to steer it this direction. If
this team wants an opportunity to win on Saturday, it's
how many people can be pointed the right direction, and
the right direction right now is focused on that game.
And so that's what I would say if I was
a bille You Cougar fan that was stressing out today.
I would just try to remember that, right now, what's
the most important thing to the football program, It's the
game on Saturday. What's the most important football thing to
the radio people? And nothing against the radio stuff and
the media, but they love the story, right, they love
the story of what's going on. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't like these like this is these are the
days I hate, actually, John, and like I would rather
talk about that UCF win and get schematic and nerdy
with you.
Speaker 2: I I hate these days. My wife also hates.
Speaker 3: Them when I'm having to interact with people on Sunday, right, Like,
it's not I hate these times.
Speaker 4: But you're right, maybe you're too maybe you're too invested.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, no, there there I am, and we all
know who I am, and you know obviously the ties
of BYU that I have, and maybe I'm more of
a fan than an actual media member. It's okay, but
it's it's tough, man, Yeah, I mean there is a
certain amount of like drama. This is our I guess,
our reality TV show those that love sports, right, the
men that love sport. This is our reality TV show
that we we monitor sure, and that we delve into
right that it becomes a part of our.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look, kids that I think if we're talking
about like the situations that could happen, I think the
NCAA has to fix one more broken thing, oh with
the way it has shaped the schedule of events that
can happen, because I think it's an absolute disaster. How
like a school can make an offer to a coach
and a coaching staff that is so enticing, and then
that they can make demands on when that coach has
to be in their building with his staff and with
all of the effort that the kids put in and
the coaches to get somewhere with the team, how that
can be broken and just cut right in a pivotal moment,
Like if I'm being honest. Also, I so bad for
the Ole Miss players as much as they are going
to try to say the right things and do the
right things, and they're going to stand up and talk
about how they can still accomplish everything that they wanted. Man,
come on college football, Like, you should not let schools,
as much as recruiting is important, change the windows. Change
the whole transferport a window, change the recruiting window, change
all of that stuff so that a coach can finish
out a season with his team before he has to
worry about what he's doing next. Like make a rule like, yeah,
you know what, you guys can go chase the guys
whose seasons are done, but when their season is not done,
like come on, like something's got to be different, or
just make it across the board for everybody, say you
can't talk to anybody until whatever the last game is
January twentieth or something like that, or you know, hey,
nobody can talk to anybody till then. And you know what, recruits,
just wait, like you guys can't cry. You're getting paid
one hundreds of thousands of dollars and some of you
guys are getting paid millions right now, you're going to
be just fine, Like like, I just think that's a
major broken thing because you know what it's doing is
it's fracturing the playoff system. As great as it is
that college football has a playoff system, right now, it's
breaking it because you're inviting teams to be in the
playoff that are top teams and then you're stripping them
of people that they need to help them, and you're
trying to tell us that that's the best thing for
college football. Full crap, You're going to watch some of
these teams who have their coaches pulled from them struggle
in this game. And you know you did, you went
and you and you hampered and you hurt the college
athletes experience, right, I mean you just that's the tough part, man,
That's the really tough part for the athletes. And it's
not I mean, yes, it's a business, but these are
also eighteen, nineteen, twenty, and twenty one year old kids
that have been dreaming about playing in those games since
they were little kids. You know, some of those kids
growing up watching SEC football, Big ten football, Big twelve football,
dreaming about playing in the Rose Bowl or the Sugar Bowl,
I mean the Cotton Bowl. Like yeah, they want to
have those dreams realize, and they've been putting in a
lifetime of effort and then all of a sudden you
find out you're in the playoffs and your coach is gone.
That is just tough, way tough, and I think that
needs to be fixed.
Speaker 2: John.
Speaker 3: For those that are tuning in, that have quarter within
the walls of their home, how can they align with
train three D QB and get the best out of
their biomechanics, their throw ability, their football IQ ability as
a quarterback.
Speaker 4: You know what, a lot of stuff's going on. We
have a lot of families that are already reaching out
talking about during that Christmas break, they want to come
out and get some time in already the start of
Reek to January. Martin Luther King weekend. I believe that
we already have camps going on and as guys transition
between sports. I think I said this on the last
show we did, but a lot of these guys that
are just finishing up right now, it's go out and
put some time on the field. Go out and have
your tape evaluated. You know, my son and I we
already started our Hey, let's sit down with a notebook
and let's go through every single play that's happened throughout
this season, whether you were the guy that took the snap,
whether there's another quarterback that took the snap. Like, let's
go through everything that we can learn from what we
just experienced, and then, you know what, we can spend
a little bit of time just improving in some areas,
going back out on the field and talking through some situations,
throwing some balls. You can still improve even when you're
going to transition to another sport because the growth, the learning,
all of that is always happening.
Speaker 3: John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, check it out at Training
three DQB dot com. John always appreciate our time. Always
learned something from you, man, Thanks for hopping on all right,
so great with you. Then they go, that's John Beck,
Ladies and gentlemen. That was brought to you by Odeon
Men's where Odeon Menswear dot com.
Speaker 2: Head on over to Odeon menswear dot com.
Speaker 3: Check out their Cyber Monday deals going on right now
for all your missionary ware, all of your church wear,
all your business attire. They got you covered. Look good,
feel good, do good. Check out the new elevatesuit. It's
a sports performance suit. I got a couple of them now.
I love all of the different colorways. It looks like
an additional suit, but it moves like a sports performance
at leisure suit. Contact them today, let them know why.
I SENTSI VP Products, VPP service, VIP discounts. Let's take
a brief time out, we'll be back. Coming up next
with a college football insider efforting to get Matt Brown
on the line to discuss what's happening, What is he hearing?
Speaker 4: What is he.
Speaker 2: What does he confirm regarding.
Speaker 3: Kolani and his negotiations with e Yu and Penn state
this is Googar's sports.
Speaker 2: On one of three nine ninety eight point three ESPN
the