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Speaker 1: One into the open space seeking light, and every plays

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we find the path with out of Trees.

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Speaker 2: Our Hearts Guy by Gentle Graves No Wi spurs out

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the dreams we find mine that set of ease, freaking

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change the whole houst tie moving towards the endless light.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of interesting beliefs, and it was

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suggested to me, because I've talked about different things over

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the time, that if we've been doing Bilified podcast, that

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I explore these and create a new podcast called bill

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Light Men. And I've been thinking about this a lot,

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but not taking much action in that way and out

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of the oblivion. I learned about Shila Tillage through a

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mutual friend, and I was intrigued because just before I

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flip the camera over to Shila, Sheila is an educator

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and trainer in energy practices and energy psychology teaching. And

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I have said for years we are all energy. Therefore

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you are eternal because energy cannot die or cannot go away.

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And then changing conscious belief systems into empowered living, which

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I think is really really important, and sometimes it's one

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of those that I would say is easier said than done,

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and that seems to be the real work. Shila can

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help remove blocks in your energy field, balance and cleanse

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your chakras, uncovered patterns, limiting your beliefs, help learn techniques

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of building personal resilience against stress, and help guide you

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to move forward on your personal spiritual empowerment path. And

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I thought, oh, let's give this beenlightening thing a go

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and have Sheila in. And I'm really really pleased that

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you agreed to do this. Thank you absolutely. And I

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see here that it's Reverend Shila b a Universal Master's Healer,

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Master Healer. I guess I want to start with the question,

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what are your kind of core beliefs you know about

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energy and what we are and that sort of thing

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where we come from.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well I also do shamanic work too, is

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like a shild shamanism. Yeah right, And so I've always

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been intrigued with nature, but I also was intrigued with

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more of the divine. And I've always been able to

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communicate with the angels since i was a kid. Okay,

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so I always knew it was kind of I was

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special type thing. But I believe that you know, your

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life is what you make it, and that it's all

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about your values and what you believe in, and how

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you actually are programmed, in other words, how you relate

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to different things in your life and how your life

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turns out. But I always like to be positive. I

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know we sometimes it's hard to be positive all of

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our lives, but it is is that I believe you

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have two choices. You can live in peace and harmony,

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or you can live in fear and turmoil, right, And

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that's what I believe in.

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Speaker 3: There was what sort of always intrigued me and kind

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of got me thinking more of this way, I believe

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it or not, was a comic who I always thought

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would be more of a lecturer. And his name was

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Bill Hicks. And Bill has passed. He passed many years ago,

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back in the early nineties, and he was more of

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I hate using the term cult comic, but he was

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kind of in that circuit here and very popular in England.

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said at the very end of it, it's one of

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my favorite pieces. He goes, it's just a ride. It's

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just a ride with frills and spills and up and

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down and the you know, he goes, and then some

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people come back to tell us and remind us it's

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just ride. Don't take it so seriously. And he goes.

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And then there's those people who go kill them, get

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rid of them. What are they doing? And he goes

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and it's just fear and love, That's all it is.

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Fear says, buy more guns, put bigger locks on my door,

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keep people out. Love says, let's give, let's give. And

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he said in it, and I'm gonna misquote, and I

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didn't even think of it till now when I was

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thinking about talking to you. He said, if we took

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all the defense money, we could feed the world three

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times over, tow whatever it is, over and over, and

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it is something with just fear and love, fear and love.

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like the drama. I think that we like the drama.

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like it's gotten easier and easier as we've evolved. We

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have smart TVs, we have this, we have everything at

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our fingertips, we still want drama. So we'll go out

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and create it in some way, whether it be on

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a grand scale with wars or fights or whatever. We

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create this kind of garbage, which then leads to Okay,

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so are we the creators? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely. We make our own lives, our own choices,

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and a lot of people don't understand that that we

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believe in ourselves. And that is from a lot of

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the programming that we've had in our life and also

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drama on our life. And how do I bring peace

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in my life? So love and fear has to do

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with having peace or fear. So what I try to

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teach people is to go inside, be in the present moment.

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I mean go inside and just be quiet and let

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your wisdom come through. Let your wisdom meaning your divineness

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who you really are as a soul. And then of

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course you know, I'm metaphysical. So although people, your loved

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Speaker 3: Tell me about metaphysics, right, because we don't metaphysics. Boy,

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I think, I think the only time I learned about

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it in an academic setting was in philosophy classes and

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more intro philosophy classes where you learned about the like

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metaphysical and what that was. And there were great thinkers

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of their time that knew that there was something beyond

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this and the very simple, simple philosophical idea that the

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being that is in the tree is the being that

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is in me, and the being is in all things? Right,

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you know, whatever the being is? And I dare I say,

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dare I say, Sheila, I think religion? And can I

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be very very coarse and forgive my friends? I think

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religion that's fucked the world up. I'm sorry. I hope

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that doesn't offend you with it.

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Speaker 4: Program.

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Speaker 3: What is why did we do this? I mean, when

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we look back at the first Drama, the First War,

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it was crusades of wars over religion, over what was right.

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was brought up in the Catholic Church till I was seven,

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and then we switched and we went to church every Sunday.

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that was my mother, who the roots are from Southern Ireland,

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that we were now Protestant, that my grandfather wouldn't talk

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to her for a year. Do you see, like the

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ridiculousness of this is over religion, same God, same right.

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its base, and I went, this is insanity, right, it's insanity.

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we've misinterpreted with Jesus or Yeshwa or however you would say,

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whatever it is, yes, that but he was a messenger

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trying to tell you how to live and that you

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have everything. And then the idea of and I don't

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so much. But the when he said I am the

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way the truth in life, I think he said my way,

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be my way. I think that was misinterpreted. I don't know,

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but I've read many people who were more SKUs. Well.

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Speaker 4: My view on metaphysics is that meta is above and

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physics is the energy around. All right, So when you

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think of the scholars and the magnetic field and stuff

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like that, but metaphysics is changed completely, I think in

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the last twenty thirty years. And there's a reason why

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scientifically for that. And it's actually about the energy fields

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have changed now, the magnetic field of the Earth. But

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how it affects us is the actual consciousness grids. And

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when I was talking about energy is consciousness? Okay, what

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you think is what you project out, and so things

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have changed over the last twenty to thirty years, and

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that is scientifically proven, but of course mainstream all right,

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and what we learn it's not in there yet. It's

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don't want to say, well, I'll ask you. Is it

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ignorance or do we think that the general population couldn't

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handle that? Because I'm starting to think that we've had

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alien encounters for years. I even have read things where

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the assassination of President Kennedy was supposed to happen in

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nineteen sixty eight because he was going to reveal all

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the things about the alien contact, and they killed him,

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and then somehow there was a glitch and they went

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back and they killed him in nineteen sixty three. But

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that energy of whatever happened in nineteen sixty eight affected

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both his brother and Martin Luther King Jenior. It sounds

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completely insane. You say that. Somebody goes, well, there's a

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looney been around the corner, you know what I mean?

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be open minded to this because I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I like to call it learning about.

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Speaker 2: The new news.

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Speaker 3: Okay, new news.

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Speaker 4: Meaning things are going to be changing. And yes, there

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are going to be a lot of things that come

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out about President Kennedy's death, and of course his nephew,

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Bobby Kennedy is running with Trump now. But there's a

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lot of things that was back there that was being controlled,

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all right, And it's all about society how they look

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at things, not to change anything. So now we live

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in a new energy and I'm a new energy educator

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explaining what actually changed. What changed was our mindset is

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that humanity didn't want the wars anymore, you know, and

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had the nuclear wars and everything that was going to happen,

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about humanity. Remember we just came off a big war,

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World War two and then Korean War two about all

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the missiles and stuff that was going to come. So

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it was changing. But we as society, i think, really

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wanted to have the peace and wanted to do different

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in our souls, right, And so things have changed and

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it's a different mentality now. And also now with COVID

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and everything that happened there, well that was part of

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the course of what was going to happen and this

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new change of thinking, new consciousness thinking. So that's the metaphysics, right,

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that's what energy is about. Metaphysics. And when you were

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we came from the stars, and we did come from

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the stars. So our DNA is higher evolvement from the stars, right,

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and scientifically they have proven that with the chromosomes. However,

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mainstream doesn't want to do that because it's you know,

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our books. In Christianity, this is the way it is.

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all right, And as you said about Yoshua Jesus, you know,

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it was a master healer and he came to show

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about love, right, but we changed it. You know. It's

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like change and control, and humanity has been about control,

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yea all along. Right, things that have been hidden have

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and so keep everybody dumb, don't tell them what really

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is going on. But it is playing out the way

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it's supposed to. All right, So it has to play

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in the we are all electromagnetic fields of energy. That's

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and it's all connected with the energy around the earth

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and how people are behaving and thinking. Now everything is

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changing since COVID. It affected the whole world, but there's

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light in the dark or you know, the evil, you know.

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all right. So the frequency is the way that you

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think and how it comes out and plays out in

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: So since COVID has happened, a lot of people are realizing, hey,

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of forced us to take our power back in our

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own lives. Yeah, all right, So many good things came

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and there's a new news now is that you can

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take control of your life and it's all about you

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going within take your power within. A lot of people say, well,

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how do I do that? I don't understand it. Well,

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you have choices. We've all had choices, but there's consequences

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from those choices, of course, and that's what keep us stuck.

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this belief, and tell me where you stand on this.

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That you can have or be or do anything you

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want and the universe is going to unconditionally support that

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whatever it is. So if your mindset is a lack

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of you remain in the lack of exactly. You can't

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find a way out exactly. And I often think, like

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you met my fourteen year old son. I try to

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when there's basic coaching stuff, right, I could I remember

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my coach. We'd lose a game, he'd be a little softer.

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but we didn't care because we felt great and it

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was a win. And I always try to equate that

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to the thoughts and try to say to people when

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you're in the zone, you can do more, you feel better,

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more good things happen and good things come to you.

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Is that us create? That's our creation? Right? So I'll

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always say too because I have three sons. He has

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older than him, And I'll say to the boys, you

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could have three things going well and one going bad.

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come along. Just that we're not trained in that, and

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it's very very I find it hard myself. Easy to say.

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I love saying it because it sounds great, makes me

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feel good to say it, to be quite honest with you,

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but to actually put it into practice is difficult.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Now, so look at it this way, Bill, You

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are putting in practice because you're teaching it to your children, right,

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because you have a different way of thinking. Now, think

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back to your own childhood, your own parents. They didn't

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know this, They didn't know how to teach it. What

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we have gone through in the last thirty years is

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new wisdom, really new ways of doing things. So you know,

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I'm quite a bit older than you, and I have

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grandchildren your age, so I you know, can't undo what

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I did before. And what I was taught is what

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I was taught. But inside those angels that I talked

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about was saying, no, this isn't right. You need to

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do this, and I listened. That's the whole point about

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being present, listening and then doing different and then therefore

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now I'm a role model, and you're a role model

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to your children, and they're learning new ways of doing things,

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and that's the new programming. Okay, so many people don't

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understand that. You know, you need just like the oxygen

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mask as a father, you need to put that mask

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on first. You need to think and say, well, things

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that what I was taught doesn't make sense. So I'm

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going to teach my kids this way. And that's what

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you're doing. You're saying, you know, just make an effort

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and look how you know you feel good saying there

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feel good?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And the people that don't help them, and that's

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about having compassion, and it's about compassion that love is

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so when you keep it in compassion, then everything kind

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of goes. And then sometimes it doesn't. You know, you

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don't get what you want, which is okay, And that's

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about life experience as well. Maybe that door needed to

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be closed. Maybe that wasn't the right thing for me.

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things are bad are going to happen, and they happen

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because you, oh, this is going to happen. You put

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that in the energy field. But then it's like, now,

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wait a minute, now, I don't want to cheat. I

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don't want to talk that way. So think about keeping

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in the positive, right, or it's the way you think.

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having fun, about learning new skills, about building you know, uh,

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comradeship and you know, how to relate with somebody you know,

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and how to work as a team, and think of

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that way and it's like, yeah, but it will give

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you such beautiful gifts or wisdom for the future to

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make in different directions in your life, right, you know,

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making different choices in your life. So it's really it's

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really good. And I love how a lot of the

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young families. Now they're saying, no, wait a minute, just

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like COVID was good because it forced them to be

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with the kids, to do different and to slow down,

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and it takes the time to do things that they

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couldn't do before. Right, that's part of the good news.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting that you say that because so many people

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worked from home or home a better bonding experience. Often

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have a horrible thought about people selling their house in

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twenty years and they, you know, during COVID decided to

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do some home innovations, but they really weren't that they

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could add it. So you're gonna have a bunch of

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really shitty home projects. Well it's from two thousand and twenty. Yeah,

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I know that. That's always just my way of going

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because everybody, hey, we're gonna do a project. I'm like,

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have you ever do you even know? Do you know

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what T y four a bat?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: You teach all that stuff is there, you can learn it.

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That that is true. It's just everything.

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Speaker 4: But whether you do it, well, that's.

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Speaker 3: Kind of my point. But that that's interesting. Let me

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go back to where you said, is it almost I

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think the word that kept coming to my mind was

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our expectation how many times do we go knew what

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was going to happen, but saw that coming a mile away. Okay,

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that's you brought that on exactly, And I don't think

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that way.

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Speaker 4: And that's the role that you have have that those

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are the choices that you have, and it's about your thoughts.

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happened before, but haven't you had the part we're intuition

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that where it did work? Say okay, I'm not going

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to go down that road, you know, and that's your

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inner source, your god source telling you. And then you

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go down a different role. And if you would have

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gone down the regular road, you would have been in

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an accident, right, So think of it that way. Yes,

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it is about your thoughts and how you think. But

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also I knew I should have gone there. I knew

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that was going to happen. So then you're gonna say, okay,

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now maybe I should make a different choice, maybe I

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should do different. So it's the wisdom, it's the learning,

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and you can't undo that wisdom, right.

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Speaker 3: No, you know you can't.

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Speaker 4: You can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't, you can't. So is it a good idea

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sometimes to check yourself, so to speak absolutely, like even

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during the day, where am I because I've I think

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meditation is very good. To just quiet I'm not saying

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for any other reason, but just to quiet your mind,

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almost go inside and just quiet things down. And sometimes

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inspiration hits during that because you're a little more open

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to the messages that are there.

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Speaker 4: Now you're in my territory.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's where we're going.

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Speaker 4: Now you're in my territory, right, So inspiration touches you.

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Where does that inspiration come from?

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or your your source, right, And I would say that

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your inner being is always with you, never stops you

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from doing anything, but anytime you feel negative feelings, your

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inter being doesn't. So you can go over there with

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your inner being or you can stay on this path, right,

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and that life never I think the problem is like

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for me, I can only speak for myself. I think

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that sometimes the thinking is makes sense to me, but

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then the reality is whooah. But then I think, Okay,

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life's never gonna stop coming at you. But how you

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react to it and our knee jerk reaction, which I

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feel is most of our program stuff from.

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Speaker 4: When we're very very young, and it limits.

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Speaker 3: You, limits me, Sheila Holy mackerel, I mean I can't

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even and it's taken. I'm fifty three years old and

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I'm figuring this stuff out now to kind of go, well,

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hang on a second, you need to shed that because

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that's not real. It's not real. I think that there

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are people will say, what's the meaning of life? And

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my answer back nowadays is there is none other than

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the meaning you give it.

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Speaker 4: Exactly?

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Speaker 3: Would that be fair? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Exactly? And we are spiritual beings, yes, living a life

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in the earth classroom, yes, learning to live life as

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a human right. And people don't realize that they can

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make a big difference. And it is the programming. So

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when I talked about energy psychology, it's about the limitations

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in your life, what limits you, and the programs that

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you were taught. That is what limits you. Your fears

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and your resentments when things don't come through. And then

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it's the way that you think and believe and your behaviors.

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they have behavior problems, all right, and they actually put

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it on that problem instead of wait a minute, let's

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go back inside, what are they feeling inside, what's really

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Speaker 3: Right? What's the root of it?

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Speaker 4: Exactly? What's the root cause? And so for my own story,

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I had to go back into my childhood and heal

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some of that stuff. And also I became an alcoholic

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like my parents did. All right, That's something that I

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never wanted to be. That was the worst thing. But

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now it is the biggest gift because I'm a recovery

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metaphysician and I can help people understand psychosocially, why did

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they pick up whatever they picked up or what was

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the tools that you used to survive? It's all about survival.

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Speaker 3: May I ask a question about that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm very open about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, not so much. Maybe your story is. I always

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think that we're told it's a disease, and I've had

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I have it in my family, like we've done rehab

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with people and all kinds of things, But I'm not

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sure that it's a disease, and people get angry. I

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think it's a way to mask something else. What's the

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root cause of it? The root cause to reach for

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the bottle wasn't the bottle. It's not sitting there calling

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you Although I love guinness, and it's sometimes it calls me,

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but you know what I'm saying, it doesn't. And yet

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we go and then it becomes well, that person has

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a disease. I always think there's something going on that

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you need to figure out to heal that, because then

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you won't need that. And I think that we were

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meant to feel good. How many times in psychology did

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they do acid back in the day, right, and people

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would say, it's you for it. I think that's how

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you're supposed to feel without the acid, but we don't.

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So then that that's where I want to get back

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to that feeling. I want to get back to that

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feeling alcohol the same thing. I want to get back

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to that feeling. Sometimes alcohol you feel good for a

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little while and then the you go take a sharp

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left turn and all of a sudden, you know things

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are getting thrown and people there can be an ugly

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side to me exactly.

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Speaker 4: So there's I have a lot of different feelings about

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that or thoughts about that, Yeah, but also life experiences.

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forty years from my childhood and also my marriage. Yeah,

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but also from alcoholism for thirty one years, and I

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did put myself in rehab. I went through alan On

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and I went through AA, went through all that stuff.

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But the thing is is that what I learned what

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It's not the amount that you drink, it's the reasons

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why you drink. Now, let's take it away from alcohol.

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Let's talk about debt. Let's talk about yes, yes, emotionally,

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let's talk about control and you know, trying to be

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perfect and all the other things that you have. So

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on my website, I have a program called Sobriety through

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Spirituality and it takes you back to your childhood. Understand

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why did you do the things that you do? All right,

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how did it come out? What was the root cause

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of trying to be accepted? And a lot of times

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when people start the drinking, all right, it's to cover

476
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,559
up the feelings inside of not being loved or not

477
00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:20,920
being listened to or whatever. Now, when I got into recovery,

478
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,519
all right, Yes, they said it was a threefold disease,

479
00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:28,279
all right, a physical, emotional, mental Okay, I oh that

480
00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:34,160
makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I don't believe that anymore, Okay,

481
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:37,640
because I truly believe I'm not an alcoholic anymore. They

482
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,920
always say once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic, or once

483
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,000
a cucumber, always a cucumber. You can't go back to

484
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:45,680
being what's a pickle, always a pickle?

485
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: Back? That's the wrong way.

486
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, But it's like it is about the way your

487
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,400
body metabolizes it. And there's different degrees of alcoholism, all right,

488
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,400
from social drinkers to alcoholism. However, I came from medical

489
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,400
and I always wanted to learn more and more about

490
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,960
medical and how it affected my body. And then when

491
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,000
I started getting involved with holistic stuff from my own healing,

492
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,839
all right, and I was already in recovery for things,

493
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,039
looking at the things that was resentful for and angry

494
00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:20,559
for and stuff like that, I was able to step

495
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:23,240
and now, wait a minute, so I can change my

496
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,599
life if I do these things, you could. And it's

497
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:31,039
emotional stuff. Today I feel that I my cellular structure

498
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,319
is different. Is because I healed a lot of emotional

499
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,359
stuff that was within my tissues in my body on

500
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,599
the physical, the emotional, mental, and also the spiritual.

501
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,559
Speaker 3: So then disease is disase, dis.

502
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: Ease anything the body exactly. It's not only just alcohol,

503
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,400
you know, gambling, control anger. Anger is a big one,

504
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:56,160
all right.

505
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,599
Speaker 3: Why would you say it? Like because help me? No, no,

506
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,799
how teasing I am. I have dealt with anger issues

507
00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:05,200
for years.

508
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know I was so angry until I

509
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,119
got into recovery a right, and when I was the

510
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,319
only woman out of twelve men, and I just didn't

511
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,799
want you know, they were all different walks of life,

512
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,200
and here I was a housewife, you know. Yeah, And

513
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,240
what she said was what are you feeling? What are

514
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,039
you feeling? And I wouldn't give in. I wouldn't give in.

515
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:26,200
I said, I don't know what I'm feeling. I don't

516
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,920
know what I'm feeling, And she kept saying, what are

517
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,640
you feeling? What are you feeling? And finally I screamed out,

518
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,599
I don't know what the I'm feeling because I didn't right,

519
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,359
because I was afraid to feel, because I knew that

520
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,160
I was going to cry. And once I started crying,

521
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,960
I would never stop because there was so much pain

522
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,519
and anger inside. And so that's why a lot of

523
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:49,119
times people stay in those stuck relationships or anything in

524
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,559
the life, is because they can't face the pain of

525
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,799
the anger.

526
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: And the fear of what comes next.

527
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: Exactly it, you can live without it.

528
00:27:58,519 --> 00:28:05,559
Speaker 3: I always think probably the biggest fear for humans is uncertainty.

529
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:10,400
Why what right? Well, why do we exactly exactly sure?

530
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,000
It comes back to control. That perfectly said, I think

531
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:16,359
that our fear of death is we don't know what

532
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,240
comes next, so therefore we go so afraid afraid, And

533
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,079
I'm starting to believe like all the resistance just goes

534
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,880
away exactly and it's blissful.

535
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:29,799
Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about the fear of death.

536
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:31,599
You know, when I was in nursing school. I went

537
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:35,319
to nursing school after I got sober, and part of

538
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:38,720
my classes was hospice care. Yeah, and I started doing

539
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,319
private hospice and I loved it. And that's when spirit

540
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:45,680
really came out, that I could communicate with spirit and

541
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:50,599
beyond the normal stuff. And so many people I have

542
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,480
had a lot of tragedy in my own life, right,

543
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:55,160
so I've dealt with death in that way. And so

544
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,599
many people are so fearful of dying because of what

545
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,680
they've been told that they're not good enough or they're

546
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,640
worthy enough. Right, so much guilt. Yes, and once you

547
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:08,119
can get past that threshold and let the palliative part

548
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,359
of the family is that we're all souls and what

549
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,799
we learned was just to survive on human earth. But

550
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,960
really there's more to us than our physical misuits as

551
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,880
they call it. Yeah, okay, we are a soul, all right.

552
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:25,319
We have a lot inside of us and that it lives,

553
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:29,559
all right. But the pain of feeling guilty that you're

554
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:33,640
not worthy enough is where a lot of people actually

555
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,519
fight dying, all right, But they also fight about crossing

556
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:40,480
until they're ready, And a lot of times it has

557
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,319
to do with family situations. A lot of family situations,

558
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:45,319
they'll want to keep them there all right, and the

559
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:47,759
person's just spun out. They really want to cross over,

560
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:50,920
but they want to have peace when they leave, know

561
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,200
that everybody will have peace over it. So that's where

562
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,440
a lot of the palliative care comes in, right. They wait,

563
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:58,480
like a lot of people will wait until the whole

564
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,039
family's there before they pass over. And of course it's

565
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:04,920
the black sheep in the family that never had anything

566
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,680
to do with the parents, and the parents waiting for

567
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,039
that black sheep to come in there before they die,

568
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,920
and then the parent people, the other siblings that helped

569
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,640
with them all their life. You know, why what am

570
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,759
I chop liver type thing. But it's all part of

571
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,119
letting go and putting you know, closure on things that

572
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,359
needs to be put closure on. Okay, there's a lot

573
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,359
of a lot of things.

574
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen it up close, and I have seen

575
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,039
it from a bit from Afar through friends and things,

576
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:40,519
and even I've had my grandparents pass. But my parents

577
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:44,960
are here. And uh. It's interesting though, because when you

578
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:50,119
were talking about crying and not stopping, I had. My

579
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:56,720
mother became a level three reiki later in life.

580
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: I love that. Yeah, I like, oh, why couldn't she

581
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,599
learn this when I was a kid.

582
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,839
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know, Yeah, I don't, yes, and I

583
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440
try not to. I always think this when you look back,

584
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:17,079
because what if Freud is big and everybody blames their

585
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,160
mother and this my father has referred to Mother's Day

586
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,640
as National blame Day because everybody blames their mother. Right.

587
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:25,759
Speaker 4: I have a lot of stories about that with my mother.

588
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,079
Speaker 3: But so I And there are things that had happened

589
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:32,440
to me as a child that later on I told

590
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,920
my parents about. My mother was very upset and tried

591
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,640
to do things to rectify that. But when she did

592
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,000
a reiki healing on me and tried to move energy out.

593
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,279
There was a point where she said to me, Wow,

594
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,880
your head is very calm. I thought it was be busy.

595
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,960
It's not as busy as I thought. And I said,

596
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:54,079
I think my energy is pretty good. But there was

597
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:57,799
and in my head I started thinking, Mom's taking away

598
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:02,599
the bad stuff. I started crying and I couldn't stop.

599
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,119
I was gonna She lives in Rhinebeck, New York. I

600
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:07,160
don't know where. Yeah, I know, I figured he did

601
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,359
the Omega Institute and things.

602
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, by white Planes.

603
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:13,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's where I grew up. And it's a

604
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,160
four and a half hour ride back. I had to

605
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,200
sit for fifteen minutes. I wasn't boohooing. It just wouldn't stop.

606
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,759
It just would It just did not stop. And I went,

607
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:28,319
there's something that we don't know. We're ignorant to we

608
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:31,359
we think we I think you do, I think everybody.

609
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,720
I don't know that anybody. And I'll see how you

610
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,079
feel about this. I don't know that anybody. When people

611
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:39,960
go to psychics and I want to know what's coming

612
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:42,799
right again, a control thing. I don't know that anybody

613
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,119
can tell you the future, but I believe they can

614
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,359
read your vibration and tell you if you stay on

615
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,720
this path, most likely this is what will occur. And

616
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,720
if you don't like that, well then you've got to

617
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:56,680
change the path and raise the vibration or do something.

618
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,400
And I think that it. Maybe I'm wrong, but that wrong,

619
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,599
that's absolutely right. That's kind of how I see it,

620
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:04,759
because I don't know that anybody can tell you the future.

621
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:06,920
And then there are people who will tell you, well,

622
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,240
it's already happened. All we have is the now, and

623
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:13,759
everything that you're seeing is from a different perspective in

624
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,039
the now, it's all happened at once. Which you try

625
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:20,240
to think that way, your head will explode, right, so

626
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,000
you know, or there is no time, and there is

627
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:27,000
this it's an illusion, and very very brilliant people who

628
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,880
we hold up on pedestools have said these things. And

629
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,359
I'm not talking religious. I'm a physicists Edison and Albert

630
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:38,480
Einstein and so, and yet we kind of eh, whatever,

631
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,359
because I because why, I don't know why.

632
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:46,079
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of us don't know any different. Inside

633
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:48,880
our soul knows why. And we all came here at

634
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,720
this time on purpose. Yes I do know.

635
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so you choose to come Oh, you absolutely do.

636
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:58,559
Speaker 4: And you choose the families that you pick. You choose

637
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:03,119
a family. I know a lot of people. Yeah, now

638
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,519
that is because it is the wisdom that you need

639
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,519
to learn. Now. I only I say that is because

640
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,480
when you talked about your mother being a reiki master, Well,

641
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:16,079
my older sister was a reiki master. She's my oldest sibling.

642
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:19,559
And I have There was ten of my family and

643
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,920
eight kids and my parents and I'm number six each

644
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,840
other and yeah, we got to Vegas to it was

645
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,679
all one marriage, one marriage, a kids that we have

646
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,840
a good chuckle on that one. But the thing was,

647
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,440
I'm number six and everybody is past. I'm the only

648
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,079
one that's left. And I have been able to communicate

649
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:42,280
with every single one of them when they passed, and

650
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,159
I've actually asked helped three of my siblings pass over,

651
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:46,880
by the way, And I was just thinking about that

652
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,280
today and they still come to me. It's really heavy.

653
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:53,079
Last year I had three in my family died within

654
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,119
three months. My sister in law who is my brother's wife,

655
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,360
my sister, and then my daughter in law she was

656
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,280
like my daughter that had the baby with my son,

657
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,679
all right within three months time, and it's about grief,

658
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,440
and it's really about love, all right, not think about that.

659
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,360
So when I share about everything happens for a reason,

660
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,639
and you pick the family that you want, I kind

661
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:17,760
of share this a little bit about when my brother

662
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,639
Bob died in twenty nineteen. Now, my brother Bob was

663
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:24,920
my closest sibling. He was six years younger than me,

664
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,000
and he was a staff sergeant in the Marines. And

665
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:31,519
at that time, there was only one other sibling alive,

666
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:33,920
and that was my sister Jackie, who died last year.

667
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:40,679
So all those those family members that died over the years,

668
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,840
I was able to have communication. And my father died

669
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,639
when I was fifteen, so this goes way back, all right.

670
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:48,000
And I had a lot of resentment towards my parents

671
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,159
and I wasn't able to change any of that until

672
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:52,960
I got into recovery and I became a medium and

673
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,199
I do all that too, and I was able to

674
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,119
heal all those issues in my tissues, my own resentment,

675
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,800
my anger and stuff like that. But back to my

676
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,599
brother Bob, is that when he he actually was brain

677
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:08,760
dead for five days. He's brain dead, and my brother

678
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,159
and I was on a we were taking a break

679
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,679
from each other. Right, we were estranged for eight months,

680
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,519
all right, and we had done that three times in

681
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:22,840
our life. And so when when he actually had conscious

682
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,079
like you just well, what happened was we had a

683
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,000
big fight about who he didn't want at his funeral,

684
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,599
and it was about my will and we're talking about

685
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:33,519
my will, and then he changed it to his anger,

686
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,800
but his friends that he didn't want to be at

687
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,880
the funeral. Okay, so there was a lot of something.

688
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,719
But what happened was he was yelling, the screaming at

689
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,079
me in a restaurant and I said, no, this is

690
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:43,800
we're going to boundaries. We're not going to do this thing.

691
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,800
I can't do that. So when I talk about fear

692
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,119
and anger, the anger is deep. And my brother was

693
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,000
very much a very spiritual man and he also was

694
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:57,400
in recovery like I was. And I'm not going to

695
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,239
say his last name, but he was very spiritual. But

696
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,400
he lost a lot of friendships because of his anger.

697
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,360
Came out of they, you know, trying to help him

698
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,000
see his anger, and he didn't want anything to do

699
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:10,800
with it. So what happened was when we were estranged,

700
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:14,199
he had a heart attack and he actually was almost

701
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,800
brain dead when they got to him. When we got

702
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,280
to the hospital, a lot of our friends from the

703
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,920
program was with me, and the doctor came in and

704
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:24,920
told us that he had about twenty percent of his

705
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,000
brain left. And so I said, what do I tell

706
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,119
my nephew who lives down in New Orleans and my

707
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:33,360
sister who was in Albany. And he said, he get

708
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,760
them here now. And right after the doctor left, my

709
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,800
friends are in the room, and all of a sudden,

710
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:43,400
everybody came to me, my parents, all my siblings, all

711
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,039
my guides, all my angels, everybody came to me. And

712
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:48,880
I said, I can how can I do this again?

713
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,360
And I started crying, and they said, this is what

714
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,079
you're here to do, and you're going to live it,

715
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:58,760
and this is what you do. And immediately my brother

716
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,280
Bob came right before my face, not like the anger

717
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,920
he was at the restaurant, but he said, I'm not

718
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,760
coming back. You know what to do. I'll be calling

719
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:19,719
the shots and I'm standing right beside you. Now, that's

720
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,159
exactly my brother Bob. He had always said that we've

721
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:24,320
gone through a lot of stuff in our life, and

722
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,039
the reason why he didn't want to come back was

723
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,159
that his health care proxy. He did not want to

724
00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:31,239
be a vegetable in anything, right, And then I knew

725
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,719
what to do. I was my health his healthcare proxy

726
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,880
when he went to the Marines in the late seventies,

727
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,199
all right. And then also he'll be calling the shots

728
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480
because he's he's a master marine. You know, it's his

729
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:44,840
way or the highway, and that he would be standing

730
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,719
right beside me because he always was. And that's what happened.

731
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: Well, did you feel like the resistance for him was gone?

732
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,360
The anger was gone?

733
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,599
Speaker 4: Well, the thing was that's the whole point. I was

734
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:57,199
going to tell you this. We live for this wisdom

735
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,000
and we picked the families that we are growing in

736
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:04,639
to learn the wisdom to be able to relate to people. Okay,

737
00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:08,519
and Bob chose to have all that anger and all

738
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,000
of my sister too. My sister was as a raking.

739
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,159
Speaker 3: Ass's suffering though, right, I mean that's suffering.

740
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:16,079
Speaker 4: Well, the thing, well, suffering is how we learn to

741
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,400
have compassion for somebody. Okay, Okay, So if you haven't

742
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,000
gone through it, and let's see why, I just don't understand.

743
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:24,039
You know, why don't you just stop drinking whatever? Didn't

744
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:26,920
realize there's a lot more to just picking up the drink.

745
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: There is.

746
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: There's the core reason, the root cause. Okay, so that's

747
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,920
where when you go to counseling, you know, you know

748
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,719
how you're feeling. And that used to really team me off.

749
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,400
I go to counseling and they would say, Okay, how

750
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,760
are you feeling? You know it says, and they say, okay,

751
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:44,320
that's good, we'll pick this up next time. You know,

752
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,519
it's time to time, then says, and then you walk

753
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:48,360
out the door and you're a basket case. It's like,

754
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:49,760
give me some tools for.

755
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,119
Speaker 3: God's sake, because you're all stirred up. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

756
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,679
Speaker 4: So when when you know this all came about about

757
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,159
me become a recovery metaphysician and when I started working

758
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,719
on myself hold this in the nineties, is that I

759
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,159
learned it's like, you need to connect with the person

760
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,119
from the heart compassion, all right, you need to be

761
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:11,280
able to connect. It's called into me c intimacy, into

762
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,320
me c intimacy exactly. Well, that's that's what recovery is

763
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,880
all about, when you're in the rooms and all that stuff.

764
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:22,920
So with my brother Bob, is that we were always

765
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,880
close like that, but once you cross over, you are

766
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:27,880
just pure soul. You don't have any of the hate

767
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,159
or the anger anymore. However, you might have the same

768
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:34,000
persona if a medium is bringing it through. Which I

769
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,239
do is that you will say the same things and

770
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,400
say it and act the same things as their persona

771
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:42,840
was in that lifetime, so that you would recognize them.

772
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:47,039
But their soul is all pure love and you purposely

773
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:49,400
lived that life so that when you come back another time,

774
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,320
you can do it all over again. But the difference

775
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,679
now is that we are changing in this energy and

776
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,760
then we can live in this higher frequency and as

777
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,519
when we cross over, we can come back. We don't

778
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,800
have to start over again. That's the difference, and that's

779
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,360
the scientific stuff. So that would be another conversation.

780
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:11,639
Speaker 3: I find it all like, yeah, fascinating, But I'll ask

781
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,519
you when you talk about the issue and the tissues

782
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:20,800
right and and healing so many people and more, it

783
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,159
seems like as a collective society we're much more open

784
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,039
to talking and seeking therapy and getting help, But are

785
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:35,599
we really healing ourselves? Because how do you do that? Right?

786
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,559
We we spend lots of money, we'll sit, we'll spend

787
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,320
an hour, like you said, once a week or whatever,

788
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,920
talking to somebody and going through things. And I was

789
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,880
against talk therapy for a while in the thinking that

790
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:54,199
cognitive therapy, yes, well that's that's yes, No, that's exactly.

791
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,000
I like that better. But yeah, because I think I've

792
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,639
always refer to as talking because it felt like you

793
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,199
were just talking about the problem and there where you

794
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,639
stay stuck in the problem. There was almost no solution.

795
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,039
It was everything's terrible today and you wouldn't believe this.

796
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:07,800
Now here we go.

797
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,519
Speaker 4: Again, just letting it write and down.

798
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 3: And I go. But you feel like you stay stuck there,

799
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:17,800
and then, so what is the healing process to go

800
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,039
back and do it? Because I often think that all

801
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,760
you have is now, and you've got choices, So go

802
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,000
with the one that feels best. Do it to its fullest,

803
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,960
to the fullest ability, without any real consequence or I

804
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:35,239
shouldn't say consequence, but any real worry about the outcome.

805
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,840
Just do it to the best of your ability, with

806
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,559
no desire for an outcome, and the outcome will be wonderful. Yeah,

807
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,679
but those are great things to say.

808
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 4: Okay, So when you talk about issues and the tissues

809
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,440
kind of make it really simple for you, okay, Okay,

810
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:55,039
So everything you've experienced in your lifetimes, all your lifetimes

811
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:58,400
is within your energy field, and your energy field is

812
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,440
within your DNA, your siritual energy field, your DNA, So

813
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:05,880
everything you've experienced is within you. And then in this

814
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,320
lifetime you have energy things that happen to you that

815
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,599
get stuck in the energy field. So when I talk

816
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:16,519
about issues and the tissues, I'm talking about block emotions

817
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,599
that get and there's different types. Most of the people

818
00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:25,920
here feel is the shame and the anger and the guilt, okay.

819
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,199
And so when I work on people or the modality

820
00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:32,480
that I do, I'm going to conduit and I bring

821
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,559
all those energy blockages away and then I imprint it

822
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:39,800
with positive block positive in an energy field, so you

823
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,519
feel nice, harmonious, right. And that's why reiki is about

824
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:47,760
bringing the energy into the chakras and the body slowly

825
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,840
heals itself, integrate energy therapy and uni field healing, which

826
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,880
is higher quantum energy. That's the new energy that's here.

827
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:58,480
That's what I specialize in with energy psychology, is that

828
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:02,360
you are bringing into a your body knows, your DNA knows,

829
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:06,440
the harmony they knows the peace and so the more

830
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,760
you do it, the more harmony you have. But also

831
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,239
your soul will actually tap into that wisdom. Okay, I

832
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,079
need to make different choices, and that comes through the

833
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:19,840
talk therapy or talknitive therapy that's in the field, but

834
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,199
also the practitioner that's working with you can help you

835
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,960
understand where these blockages come from, how they got there,

836
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,000
and then the choices, you know, to come and think

837
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,239
differently or release them that you can't undo, but you

838
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,719
can move forward from it and use the wisdom from

839
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,639
that to make different choices.

840
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: Right. And I think sometimes and it's not the wrong

841
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,960
word I was going to say, but the word trauma

842
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:49,679
is used.

843
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: Often well, post traumatic stress.

844
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 3: Which I believe is very very real for you. But

845
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:01,360
I sometimes go, boy, these words words mean things. You know,

846
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,519
the old saying that sticks and stones may back by moms,

847
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,719
but words will never hurt me. Words powerful you choose.

848
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 4: The side.

849
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that that stuff is very very important.

850
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,039
And I know it sounds weird when I say these things.

851
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:15,039
People I was looking at me like.

852
00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 4: This guy talking about it.

853
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I really believe that there's real power there, right,

854
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:24,960
real power because a lot of times the words come

855
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,960
from the way we think, right, They they're a thought first, yes,

856
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:32,639
and so you want to have that. But sometimes I

857
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:38,639
often think with trauma is yes, bad things have happened,

858
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,800
or what we deem to be bad, and you can

859
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,320
either dwell on that or use the contra I always

860
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,400
like to think it's contrast. I know what I want

861
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,280
and I know what I don't want. Right, and sometimes

862
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,639
something worked for a while. And a very very simple analogy,

863
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,880
one that has to upset people is I love the

864
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,280
but I outgrew the car now right, I had a

865
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,880
two seater and now I have a family. It doesn't

866
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,840
work anymore. It's time to get into a new car.

867
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,760
And that sometimes those are the changes that you need

868
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,440
to make. And I think that fear holds us back

869
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:15,159
and then we get angry, and then we blame other people.

870
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,079
Is it fair to say? And I'll, i'll I believe this,

871
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:25,280
and yet sometimes I don't know that I true my core,

872
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,360
really believe it. Everything that happens to you is your fault.

873
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 4: It's called the victim role. Huh, blame blame blame.

874
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,039
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I mean and I mean that good

875
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:39,159
or bad, no matter what, whatever, has happened in some way.

876
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,840
You brought that on, and this is a giant magnet

877
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,719
up here that you're attracting, attracting, attracting, and that's all

878
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,000
there is. There's no real assertion. There's only attraction.

879
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can change that with the neurotransmitters, the

880
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:54,679
way do you think, right, and the things that you do,

881
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,599
so you can regrow some more cells and change that.

882
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,320
It doesn't always have to.

883
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,079
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't that. I think that that does change

884
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:06,440
scientific I think there's also when you talked about DNA,

885
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,920
I believe that there's DNA that is not coded in

886
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,079
the human body. Would that be am I wrong? Yeah?

887
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:17,800
And I think that they're starting to study at places

888
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,800
like Harvard, the and Yale the uncoded DNA and how

889
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,480
to awaken that and the power of water. I think

890
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:29,400
I talked to you briefly about knotty water and the

891
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:37,559
healing of that, and I I think it's called aravetic medicine. Aravatic. Yeah,

892
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,320
I wasn't sure if I was saying it the right way,

893
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:44,039
but more of a I guess we say Indian culture. Yeah, okay,

894
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,800
so I had I don't know what this gentleman did

895
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:50,480
doctor deep. He sat there and he held my wrist

896
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:53,599
and pulsed and did this and that, and then said,

897
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,320
will give you years that are blocking you, years of

898
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,760
where something happened. And basically he said, put it down.

899
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,559
Now we have all said, everybody has said at one

900
00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:07,400
point let go and let God, let go, and like God, right,

901
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,079
but that's pretty much the same thing, just let go.

902
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,280
But man, we can't. We can't because if we let go,

903
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,559
what happens next? And I think that's the problem. So

904
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:19,360
when I'm very curious, I guess for me, in a

905
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,280
selfish way, how do you do this healing so where

906
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,159
you really can let go and every day can be

907
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,199
I'm not saying that. I had an incident the other

908
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,599
day where I'm trying to get a replacement Social Security card.

909
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:39,440
It was such a clusterfuck, but so entertaining, like I

910
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,599
found it delightful. I went in there and I had

911
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:45,199
my bag, it's over on the chair over there, and

912
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,480
I had I'm trying to get the kid to eat

913
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,280
something in the morning. It doesn't want to eat. I

914
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,159
had bought these croissants that have a sausage, egg and

915
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,840
cheese and you just throw it in the microwave. You

916
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,239
don't mean something simple. I can just let's move along here.

917
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,159
And I always have normally what I would refer to

918
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,800
as my this is terrible, my prison breakfast. I usually

919
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,760
eat three boiled eggs in an apple. I called it

920
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,519
very good, I know, but I call it the prison

921
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,679
breakfast because it's easy and it's easy to care. But

922
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,960
this day I had that I get to this to

923
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,599
get my Social Security card. They go any food or

924
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:15,199
drinking there and I said, yeah, I got it. You

925
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,960
can't have it, so I got to go all the

926
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,480
way down to the car put it back in. Now

927
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,400
I come in, I cut all all through through the bag.

928
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,400
I have to go through the security. I'm getting wanded,

929
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,000
belts off the whole thing. I get over to the machine.

930
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:28,480
I type in all this information. It's supposed to give

931
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,639
you a ticket, like at the DMV. I hear it

932
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,599
were nothing comes out. I goes, what happened? I said,

933
00:49:33,639 --> 00:49:36,039
I don't know. He goes, do you remember the number

934
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:37,559
it showed? I said, I think I do, but I'm

935
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:39,159
not sure. I was going to depend on the ticket.

936
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:40,800
He goes, well, you better get over to that machine

937
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,039
and re enter the stuff. And he goes, this one's

938
00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:46,000
probably out of paper. I said, Okay, he walks over,

939
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:49,079
goes Yep, it's out of paper. Does he go get paper? No, Sheila.

940
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:51,199
He reaches down and picks up an out of order

941
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,719
sign and just puts it right on there. Yeah, and

942
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,000
I went, this could drive you nuts, or you could

943
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,760
be very entertained by it. It's not like anything bad's happening,

944
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,599
you know what I mean, there's nothing bad. But that's

945
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:04,719
the kind of stuff that I think when we talk

946
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:10,119
about trying to live, that's it's in those moments where

947
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:12,760
you could really go off, like I got to re

948
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,920
enter this, Now, what the fuck is with these people? Yes, yes,

949
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:20,159
and I have would normally be that way, but for

950
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:23,079
whatever reason, I was going, this is somewhat entertaining. I

951
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:25,360
was entertained by it. And I get to talk on

952
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,360
my podcast about you know, all this stuff, and so

953
00:50:29,039 --> 00:50:31,280
to me, everything's a story, right, it's a fun story.

954
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: Whole life is a story.

955
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: Yes, But I but in those little moments, those are

956
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,480
the things that make up life. Those are the things

957
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:43,159
that can really bring on the disease. You reactivate something

958
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,760
in you that isn't healthy. When we're finding the look

959
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,920
as you're talking. And this is why I think it's

960
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,440
so important to talk about these things. How many people

961
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:57,679
have high blood pressure and stress because they can't it's

962
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,960
through your thoughts. It all starts in your head.

963
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's what heart math is all about. What

964
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,280
is it heart math?

965
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:05,519
Speaker 3: I couldn't even do algebra.

966
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,079
Speaker 4: So no, no, no, no, it's not what you think

967
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:15,320
heart math is about. It's through Heart Math Institute in

968
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:21,559
California and also Heart Math Institute and Harvard University in Nassau.

969
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,079
Speaker 3: See all these This is why I think it's so

970
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:27,039
important to connect that stuff. So people go, this is legit.

971
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 4: Well, this is what I do. This is what I

972
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,559
do with the heart Math. Now in the Energy Center

973
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,599
energy sessions that I do, I do the modality called

974
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:38,880
integrated Energy Therapy, which is about the issues and the

975
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,519
tissues and it's all about heart linking the energy. Okay.

976
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:49,440
Heart Math Institute is about self resilience against stress and trauma.

977
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,519
How do you build that without any chemicals? And they

978
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:56,039
have it's called the heart coherence technique. Is where you

979
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:59,280
think about the things that you're very that your heart desire,

980
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,159
things that you love that you're compassionate about that you

981
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,480
love and you think about it in your head. So

982
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:07,320
you make the connection between your heart and your head

983
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:10,880
and you just do regular breathing. Okay. But the thing

984
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,400
is is when you're in that regular breathing for a

985
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,719
good five minutes okay, your body self regulates, it goes.

986
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,000
It has to do with your heart rate. It's called

987
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:26,639
the heart rate variability. Heart rate variability, and it's where

988
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:29,880
your body goes balance, just like a newborn baby. Now,

989
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,159
when you go into that, you go in you work

990
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,159
with a pair of sympathetic in the sympathetic nervous system,

991
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,440
which means your blood pressure, you know your adrenal glands,

992
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,920
how you process your digestion, everything. So once you learn

993
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:50,079
heart rate variability, how you when you learn heart coherence.

994
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,519
All right, breathing and you do that, there's actually five

995
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:57,519
different levels. What you're actually doing is building your consciousness,

996
00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:02,880
level of perception and feeling and reacting. And as you

997
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,000
change the chemistry in your body, we're relaxed so that

998
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:10,000
when you're that's what you were doing. You were actually

999
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,960
you know, you didn't get all upset about that ticket whatever,

1000
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,440
but also you knew that you're going to mean me.

1001
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:21,360
But but serendipity in coincidences, no coincidence at all. So

1002
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,840
that's the new energy that's here. That's the new news

1003
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:26,079
that I like to say, is that there's a way

1004
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:29,559
of doing things differently, and you do that by experiencing it.

1005
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,480
And usually it's by sachrenoicity and serendipity. You meet somebody

1006
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:37,119
that does that, Hey I'm attracted to that. How did

1007
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,320
you do that? How did you whatever? And so it's

1008
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,920
by reaching out with that compassion from your heart, bringing

1009
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,480
the heart center energy out into me c. So that

1010
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:50,880
works with everything in your life. Yes, okay, So I

1011
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:58,199
like working with heart with law enforcement Okay, also from

1012
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,239
healthcare workers because I was one. So we wear the

1013
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,519
biggest mask, okay, because we have to do the work

1014
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,119
that we do, especially all the trauma and all the

1015
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:09,679
gory stuff that we deal with. Once we take off

1016
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:12,679
that mask and we go home, then our lives fall apart.

1017
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,800
Is because we don't know how to live in coherence

1018
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,920
of who we really are as a soul. We have

1019
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,880
a role to play and that's how you're programmed. So

1020
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,000
when you go back and look at your life, is

1021
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,400
that this is what I always did, and this is

1022
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,360
what I was taught. I don't know how to relate

1023
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,719
to things. All I know is how to get angry, right,

1024
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:32,519
And so you need to change, and so how do

1025
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:35,760
you do that? You go within without any chemicals and

1026
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,320
you actually train your body to do that, right, And

1027
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,679
so what happens that you start to change. And that's

1028
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:45,000
where I said putting the astra mask on first as

1029
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,840
a father, and then you're role modeling to your son

1030
00:54:48,199 --> 00:54:50,840
how to different things that you never had before.

1031
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,079
Speaker 2: No.

1032
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:56,119
Speaker 3: I often think that sometimes you would almost say it's selfishness, right,

1033
00:54:56,159 --> 00:54:58,280
But that's a great analogy of putting that on it.

1034
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,960
But if you're not okay here and you can't handle stuff,

1035
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,239
how are you gonna be good for anybody else?

1036
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 4: Exactly? And in integrated er GI therapy, when I teach

1037
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:11,719
that when we heart connect, it's about compassion, it is

1038
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:17,639
about selfishness, it's about spiritual selfishness. Yeah, all right, take

1039
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:20,400
care of yourself first, right, and that's the heart connection

1040
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:22,960
that you have. And that's okay. But we've been told

1041
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,199
it's selfish of us to take so much time to

1042
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,039
go into medic state. Yes, so that's the programming.

1043
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because I have been meditating for years.

1044
00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:34,519
I think I'm terrible at it. My mind goesmingming, and

1045
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,440
it takes me a while, and sometimes I have to

1046
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,239
really concentrate on my breathing. But I just to your

1047
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,360
point that all of this is connected. I had an

1048
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,760
EKG and I was a little worked up, so I

1049
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,679
just went into that state and I set off alarmed

1050
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:52,599
because my heart rate got so low. It got below

1051
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:55,599
forty five or forty four beats a minute, and mine's

1052
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:58,920
normally around fifty. But I just I was like, you

1053
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,440
can do it. You can can control. All of this

1054
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:04,760
is in within your control. And the knee jerk reactions

1055
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,159
of the problem they're usually not the right one. So

1056
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,119
I always say, you like, give it a bead and

1057
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,639
try to find But you know, most of this is

1058
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,760
it's just silly. It's just silly drama that we like.

1059
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,199
I always think of the Shakespearean line of we're just

1060
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,679
players who Strutt and Fred are hour upon the stage

1061
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,360
and then are heard no more? Right? Is that sort

1062
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,719
of what it is? But you can live, you can

1063
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,280
actually live. Why wait to die to have the freedom

1064
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,280
exactly right? When you can do it here? The problem

1065
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,159
is it's easier said than done. And I think that's

1066
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,000
where you know, going to someone like you and learning

1067
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:41,800
or listening to this. I think it's fantastic. How do

1068
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,639
people find you?

1069
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 4: Go to my website? Yeah, Sheila Chillick dot com. That's

1070
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,480
s H E I L A T I L L

1071
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:51,760
I c H dot com.

1072
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,079
Speaker 3: Okay, it's it's sometimes it'll auto fill.

1073
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 4: That's good, but it's it is pronounced.

1074
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, no, no, no.

1075
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 4: But it's actually said Tillic. It's German, my ex husband's name. Okay,

1076
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:08,000
So you can go there. And also I teach classes

1077
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:08,280
on it.

1078
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:08,679
Speaker 3: Okay.

1079
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 4: So integrated energy therapy is about the issues and your tissues.

1080
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:16,119
But a lot of practitioners like reiki masters or massage

1081
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:19,599
therapists and doctors and lawyers, and I teach everybody they

1082
00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:21,760
want it for another certificate on the wall or to

1083
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:27,159
piece whoever I et. I teach is about you healing. First,

1084
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:31,679
you understand your own stuck blackages, the actual trauma with

1085
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,320
inside you, how did it get there? So that once

1086
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,960
you understand that, then you can have more compassion and

1087
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:38,760
to be able to help other people.

1088
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: Right.

1089
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: So I have four different levels, but the first three

1090
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,440
levels I do it in a weekend, and that is

1091
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,760
so that you can start using it on yourself right away.

1092
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,159
And the three levels. I teach all three at the

1093
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:53,199
same time, meaning I incorporate some of the stuff that

1094
00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:55,679
you learn techniques in the first one so that it

1095
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,840
kind of flows. And it's called an intensive workshop. It's

1096
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:03,079
actually the first three levels. When it was first taught,

1097
00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:06,480
it was taught the clinical for people didn't know anything

1098
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,639
about energy at that time. Of course we've expanded since then.

1099
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,519
All right, but I try to bring it into your life. Now,

1100
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,480
how can you have peace within your life and heal yourself?

1101
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:17,039
A lot of people say, well, I don't need to

1102
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:20,280
heal myself. I'm perfect, Well you are, But how do

1103
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,000
you live in life? You know, in the drama of

1104
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:26,239
life and live in life on life's terms, right, right?

1105
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:26,559
Speaker 2: Right?

1106
00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 4: And also the programming the things that you always did

1107
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,840
and you know that it's not working anymore. You're you're

1108
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:35,400
feeling a disease, yes, right, So how do you change?

1109
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:37,920
And it always starts about you first, and then it's

1110
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,400
a ripple effect, right, the ripple effect of the energy

1111
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,039
that goes out. It's all about energy and your choices

1112
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:46,519
that you make love or fear.

1113
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: It is, and it's so simple and yet not it's

1114
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:55,000
exactly it's my thing because there are times where I

1115
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:56,920
go I know I need to connect, I know what

1116
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,800
the right thing is. I know I need to let go,

1117
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,400
but I'm so stuck in my habits, bad habits.

1118
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,239
Speaker 4: So that area is the shoulds that's on your shoulders.

1119
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,000
It's called the stuck shoulds, the should of what isn't

1120
00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:10,840
good as if only if? And I know that's where

1121
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,800
you're beating yourself up, right, And so once you release that,

1122
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:16,800
what the angels put back in is freedom no more

1123
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:17,519
way down in the world.

1124
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:20,039
Speaker 3: I often think all the time, like, you know what

1125
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:24,400
is money? It's freedom. It's the ability, right, and you

1126
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,199
can really get yourself thinking wonderfully, and if you can

1127
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:31,079
stay there, that's when everything works well.

1128
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 4: The problem is is that you can be in meditation

1129
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:35,440
and be great, feeling great, and you go out into

1130
00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:38,519
the world and then you get triggered by the energy

1131
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:42,000
of somebody else. So that's where the energy field comes

1132
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,119
into play, right, and understanding that you're always going to

1133
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:48,920
get triggered by somebody or something. And haven't you ever

1134
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,199
gone into a room or whatever and you like somebody

1135
00:59:51,199 --> 00:59:53,400
you don't know why is because I've got so much

1136
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,679
stuck inside them. The energy you feel, the anger like

1137
00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:59,519
my brother, you know, it's like it comes out oozes.

1138
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:00,199
Speaker 2: You know.

1139
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how spiritual you are. If you've got

1140
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,360
locked stuff inside, there comes out and you get triggered

1141
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,000
really easy, and it'll take your way back to stuff

1142
01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:10,840
that never got dealt with, right you know. Yeah, so

1143
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,519
those are the triggers in the energy field.

1144
01:00:12,519 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 3: How do we so what is the method for dealing

1145
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,639
with something and letting it go?

1146
01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:20,039
Speaker 4: Go within? Just go stay in the present moment? Do

1147
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:21,079
you how important is it?

1148
01:00:21,239 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you go in and just kind of realize

1149
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,519
that it's not significant today? That's not anything that you

1150
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:30,119
know what I mean? I mean there's many different things, right.

1151
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:33,760
People suffered sexual abuse or something along the way, and

1152
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,840
there's anger out of that. There's things lives have been

1153
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,280
altered because of that. You know you're thinking in a

1154
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,840
way has been altered, right, which is really life has

1155
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:42,760
lived in your head?

1156
01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:43,239
Speaker 1: Right?

1157
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: And I always wonder like, how do you I don't.

1158
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 4: Know, maneuver it?

1159
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I always thought, well, you gotta be like water,

1160
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:53,199
Water gets around the rocks. Water can be calming, water

1161
01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:55,360
can be wonderful or water can be destructive.

1162
01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 4: And water is where you can energize the water and

1163
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,199
get more healing. Yes, because your body is made up so.

1164
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:01,039
Speaker 3: Much of water.

1165
01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:04,159
Speaker 4: Water, right exactly, So that is what you put in

1166
01:01:04,519 --> 01:01:05,559
is what you get out.

1167
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: Right.

1168
01:01:06,159 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 4: When you talked about meditation, I had a hard type

1169
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,400
to oh, you know, why do you have to do this?

1170
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,039
And you know, to go up to consciousness field. The

1171
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:15,800
difference in the energy, noality, You can get there in

1172
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,800
a heartbeat, right, And the thing is being present, like

1173
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,159
I said, close the doors, you know, start light a

1174
01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:24,519
candle if you want to, but just be present. And

1175
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:28,639
I always talk about this, this technique called SIP, sit

1176
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,960
in present and it only takes about three minutes a day.

1177
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,639
And what you do is that you take some nice

1178
01:01:34,639 --> 01:01:37,280
deep breathing all right, just to get yourself relaxed, you know,

1179
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,719
make sure you're a loan, close the door and just

1180
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,400
sit in the present moment, set your alarm for three minutes,

1181
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:46,719
and then ask go with inside and say what do

1182
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,960
I need to know today? And then a lot of

1183
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:52,119
times all this stuff comes in your head, just let

1184
01:01:52,159 --> 01:01:55,639
it go, buy like clouds, what do I need to

1185
01:01:55,679 --> 01:01:59,719
know today? And the whole key is that your helpers,

1186
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,559
your soul knows it, and they will come. They will

1187
01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:06,320
give you direction. They'll say do this, do that, and

1188
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,360
then you say, well, how do I do that? The

1189
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,199
thing is training yourself to sit in the present moment

1190
01:02:12,239 --> 01:02:15,679
so that you can listen and hear your inner source

1191
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,800
talking to you, the power that you have inside. Yeah, okay,

1192
01:02:20,119 --> 01:02:22,480
And so it's only three minutes. You know, say, well

1193
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,960
that was quick. You know that's not doing anything. Well,

1194
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,599
it's repetition. Go back into it. You have to train

1195
01:02:28,719 --> 01:02:32,440
yourself to being in a different energy. Think about that

1196
01:02:33,079 --> 01:02:36,559
and relate to people. So I actually learned that from

1197
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:39,400
one of my mentors, Susanne Geeseman, a right who is

1198
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,039
called Sip, and she put sit in prayer. So you

1199
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:45,159
go inside and you pray, you know what do I

1200
01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:47,639
need to whatever? If you're going to do rosary or whatever.

1201
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,400
But I kind of turn it around and go back

1202
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,400
to the power that you have inside. Each and every

1203
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,159
one of us have our own power, but a lot

1204
01:02:56,159 --> 01:02:59,039
of times we give it away to everybody else instead

1205
01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:02,599
of going within side. So that's what this new news

1206
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:06,000
is about. You have the power you can tap inside

1207
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:09,280
and it is scientific, tiftically proven. We can do a

1208
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,119
whole show on that.

1209
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can see those are the things that

1210
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,000
I love and I think we should at some point.

1211
01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:15,400
This is fascinating to me.

1212
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 4: Well, I just had one of my mentors and one

1213
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,079
of the team that I'm part of is Lee Carroll,

1214
01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:23,440
who channels Cryon and he's part of the high scientific field.

1215
01:03:23,679 --> 01:03:25,079
Speaker 3: He channels I don't know, he.

1216
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:26,239
Speaker 4: Channels cry On.

1217
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 3: What is that?

1218
01:03:27,159 --> 01:03:30,159
Speaker 4: Cryon is an entity and an angelic entity that was

1219
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,639
came here to Earth in nineteen eighty nine, right, and

1220
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,599
it it talks about how do you change your life,

1221
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:39,800
how do you deal with life situations? And it's all

1222
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,719
about the new energy what has changed in the magnetic field.

1223
01:03:44,199 --> 01:03:48,239
He's called the Magnetic Master. And Lee Carroll, gentleman. Lee Carroll,

1224
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,440
he actually wrote the book Indigo Children. Oh, I've heard

1225
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,039
of that book, So everybody's heard about that.

1226
01:03:53,239 --> 01:03:54,679
Speaker 3: I've never read it, but I heard about it.

1227
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 4: Well, what the book is really all about is.

1228
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 3: That how on the bookstore and Rynebeck I'm not kidding it.

1229
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,599
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, And it's called It's about children that are

1230
01:04:04,639 --> 01:04:08,719
different now like the adhd add Allsberger, you know all

1231
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,800
the other ones. But the really children that are born

1232
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,119
after a certain time when this energy has changed in

1233
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:19,079
the earth, that's the new energy. That's what I teach, okay,

1234
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,800
And so everybody kind of well, my child is different.

1235
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,280
They can think differently, and they have a mind of

1236
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,360
their own or whatever. That's right, because they're at a

1237
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:32,119
different vibration. It's all about frequency, higher and lower frequency.

1238
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:35,280
And so when you think of negative or positive, just

1239
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,159
think a negative as a lower frequency or the dark

1240
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:44,719
and and the other is light is higher frequency. And

1241
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,199
so what is happening now is that a lot of

1242
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:51,360
the dark stuff is coming to the light. It's coming out.

1243
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,079
Humanity is changing and realizing we can't do this anymore.

1244
01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 3: We have to change.

1245
01:04:56,599 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 4: That is what is the new energy. And so the

1246
01:04:59,519 --> 01:05:06,079
children what medical picked up on it. They started medicating them. Yeah,

1247
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,960
it's all about chemicals, yes, all right, because they don't

1248
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,239
know how to do it any different. It's all medicine

1249
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,280
is about chemicals and stuff like that. When energy medicine

1250
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,679
is about turning inward. Without the medicine, you can use

1251
01:05:19,719 --> 01:05:22,239
it if you need to, but in it you really

1252
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,199
go inside and do the healing with inside. And so

1253
01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:30,159
children that are higher frequency like that they learn differently,

1254
01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:33,719
but they also have more of imagination and things come

1255
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:36,559
into their field. That's the new inventions that are here now.

1256
01:05:36,639 --> 01:05:39,079
The young ones see that.

1257
01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:42,039
Speaker 3: That's the part that is fascinating. I think imagination is

1258
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:44,800
the greatest thing you can have. Oh, Albert Einstein talked

1259
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:45,840
about imagination.

1260
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,119
Speaker 4: Elon Musk you know is you know, uh, and he

1261
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,639
is a great he is a great inventor. And that's

1262
01:05:51,679 --> 01:05:52,320
what it's all about.

1263
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:58,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting much, Sheila, I could go forever and ever.

1264
01:05:58,599 --> 01:05:59,159
Speaker 4: I could too.

1265
01:05:59,239 --> 01:05:59,679
Speaker 3: I love it.

1266
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 4: I love I love seeing your you know, because I

1267
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,480
can see you know, it's like, yeah, I can finally

1268
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:06,800
talk to somebody. She understands.

1269
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,679
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, exactly, and I well, I'll leave it on this.

1270
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,119
And sometimes I think this is because we did talk

1271
01:06:14,159 --> 01:06:19,960
about things that trigger people, right, so I try to do.

1272
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,280
I believe that everything in your life is a different segment. Yes, right,

1273
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,000
you'll leave here it's a new segment. It's a new segment.

1274
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,559
And I think you can segment intent and then even

1275
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:33,719
if there's somebody that you have had a problem with

1276
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,320
but you have to be around them, think of the

1277
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,800
positive attributes of that person. If you can or something

1278
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,119
and that's usually you'll get more of that and less

1279
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,440
of the other. Would that be fair? Is that a

1280
01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:51,199
right way thinking? Okay, I'm yeah, absolutely, because I say

1281
01:06:51,199 --> 01:06:53,119
this stuff and sometimes I think people think i'm and

1282
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:54,480
I just think.

1283
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:55,239
Speaker 4: About the bullies.

1284
01:06:55,679 --> 01:06:56,559
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.

1285
01:06:56,639 --> 01:07:03,079
Speaker 4: So hurting people hurt people. Yeah, yeah, healing pro people,

1286
01:07:03,679 --> 01:07:04,320
heal people.

1287
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:09,719
Speaker 3: So I will say, right, shouldn't admit this. But I've

1288
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:14,159
been become very very aware of this now that when

1289
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,880
I'm hurt, like hurt, something really kind of wounds me

1290
01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:23,239
or doesn't add up. I want to hurt, hurling so

1291
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,559
you feel how I feel exactly.

1292
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:29,079
Speaker 4: And that is the terrible Well, but you know that's

1293
01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:30,880
kind of like the victim role. I'm going to show

1294
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:31,480
you type thing.

1295
01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it, and.

1296
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,159
Speaker 4: But that's the that's the tissues. Yes, that is where

1297
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:38,679
you've been, you know, beat up so much, you know,

1298
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,719
and that the shame and the guilt and all this

1299
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,519
pain that's inside. But when somebody does something to you

1300
01:07:44,599 --> 01:07:46,840
and you get triggered by it's like you know, all

1301
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,840
that old stuff comes into your field, right, and so

1302
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:54,960
you learn it by understanding what those triggers are. How

1303
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,639
did he get there? How did he get there? How

1304
01:07:57,639 --> 01:07:59,360
did the guilt and the shame and the anger and

1305
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,559
resentment get there? It was not being heard or loved

1306
01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:06,440
or listened to or feel like you should be loved. Right,

1307
01:08:06,519 --> 01:08:09,360
So it's a misconception, you know, childhood, you know, you know,

1308
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,039
my parents was brought up in the thirties, you know,

1309
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,760
in the fifties, and I was born in the fifties.

1310
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,119
But they they taught us what they knew. They didn't

1311
01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:18,760
know any difference.

1312
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,239
Speaker 3: So that's what I always think. I started to say earlier,

1313
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,119
they did the best they could with what they knew,

1314
01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:28,039
with what they knew. And I sometimes now see myself

1315
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:33,239
going back to things I saw at that those programming

1316
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:36,760
years when you were sort of programmed, and I go,

1317
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,039
that's not how I want to be. That's not who

1318
01:08:39,079 --> 01:08:41,680
I am, That's not who I really am. I don't

1319
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,680
like that, and I don't want them to see that,

1320
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,800
and I don't want to be that way, you know.

1321
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,720
But it's taken this long to kind of get there

1322
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,960
and realize and I can control it exactly through my thoughts.

1323
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,640
And you don't need chemicals necessarily. And I would say

1324
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,600
that to anybody who's listening, who if you if you

1325
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,159
take medicine. I always think that some of those are

1326
01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:06,000
a tool, right to help you be better. Yea, and

1327
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,640
you said that, you said you both and I do.

1328
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 4: Both right, And a lot of it is my brain

1329
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:17,439
chemistry for depression from all the trauma, right changed it.

1330
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,479
It's like I have had hard time focusing, and I'm

1331
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,880
the last one to want to take meds. However, I

1332
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,079
knew I needed help, and so I got help. And

1333
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:29,520
there's no shame in that you use just like a diabetic,

1334
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:33,159
you need the insulin, you don't, you know, just because

1335
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:35,600
you don't want to take it. It's like, okay, now,

1336
01:09:36,159 --> 01:09:41,560
thank Gosh that now we have the actual medical inventions

1337
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,960
that help us be able to regulate our insulin. And

1338
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,720
we have it before we didn't. So that's the good

1339
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:52,640
science that we have. And it's always about evolution, yes, okay, evolving. Yes,

1340
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,840
this new energy is about evolving into a higher frequency

1341
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,960
or a higher ascension. All right. So you know, I'm

1342
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,840
a galactic grandmother, which means I help people understand the

1343
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:11,399
higher wisdom withinside themselves right through my own experience and

1344
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,640
stuff like that. But I was to help somebody to

1345
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,680
understand that they do have the power.

1346
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do, you have, you do, but how you

1347
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,319
use it? Yes, that light has been put out in

1348
01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:24,439
a lot of people, exactly, it really has. It's kind

1349
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,319
of like you pilot light has been put out on

1350
01:10:26,359 --> 01:10:26,960
your water heater.

1351
01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:29,239
Speaker 4: It's just like the people that ready to get ready

1352
01:10:29,279 --> 01:10:32,359
to die, you know, they don't feel worthy, they don't

1353
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,000
feel worthy, and they feel guilty. Yes, and they're afraid

1354
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:39,720
right right, instead of you are worthy. Yes, everybody learns

1355
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,800
all this stuff. That's what my parents said. I came

1356
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,920
here to learn what I needed to learn.

1357
01:10:44,119 --> 01:10:46,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm here to do. And I always

1358
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:49,079
think like one of the hardest things for humans to

1359
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:53,439
do is be unconditional and unconditional loving. I almost think

1360
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,479
it's an impossibility for humans. But your inner being is

1361
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,159
that and you are loved so much that what ever

1362
01:11:00,319 --> 01:11:03,079
you want to be, do or have, you can. Whether

1363
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:06,239
it's negative or positive, it can be and it's sort

1364
01:11:06,279 --> 01:11:08,800
of your we label it negative or positive. I always

1365
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,640
think this, you never get it wrong, you never get

1366
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,880
it done. Oh, that's one right, you never get it done.

1367
01:11:15,079 --> 01:11:15,479
That's right.

1368
01:11:16,039 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 4: That's what I say.

1369
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,199
Speaker 3: Never stop, never stop. You just never get it done.

1370
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:23,159
Because we're always evolving, and there's always contrasts, and there's

1371
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:26,279
always the things, and you know, on a sort of

1372
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:29,239
a simplistic philosophical way, you never get it done and

1373
01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:32,039
that and that's a good thing. You don't ever want

1374
01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:35,600
to get it done because the eternal beings can't exactly. Yeah,

1375
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,439
I think we'll end it there that this has been fascinating.

1376
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,800
I loved every minute of this yet and I hope

1377
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,920
you'll come back sometime. All right, fantastic. Uh, We'll do

1378
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,760
more of these, and I am going to call them

1379
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,000
Bill Lightenman. I think this will be a little teaser

1380
01:11:51,079 --> 01:11:53,520
for people to get used to what that podcast will be.

1381
01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:56,760
And we'll put it out and you can become a

1382
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,439
sponsor of the program. It's it'll be three dollars a month.

1383
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,239
Bill I five will remain free, but podcasts like this

1384
01:12:03,399 --> 01:12:06,800
will go behind that paywall and you can you can

1385
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,239
find that out and we'll do more, Bill lightenman. But Sheila, man,

1386
01:12:10,399 --> 01:12:12,920
I feel like I found somebody I know now.

1387
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

1388
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 3: For Sheila, I'm Bill Moran. Thank you for listening.

1389
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 4: Thank you