Speaker 1: One into the open space seeking light, and every plays
we find the path with out of Trees.
Speaker 2: Our Hearts Guy by Gentle Graves No Wi spurs out
the dreams we find mine that set of ease, freaking
change the whole houst tie moving towards the endless light.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of interesting beliefs, and it was
suggested to me, because I've talked about different things over
the time, that if we've been doing Bilified podcast, that
I explore these and create a new podcast called bill
Light Men. And I've been thinking about this a lot,
but not taking much action in that way and out
of the oblivion. I learned about Shila Tillage through a
mutual friend, and I was intrigued because just before I
flip the camera over to Shila, Sheila is an educator
and trainer in energy practices and energy psychology teaching. And
I have said for years we are all energy. Therefore
you are eternal because energy cannot die or cannot go away.
And then changing conscious belief systems into empowered living, which
I think is really really important, and sometimes it's one
of those that I would say is easier said than done,
and that seems to be the real work. Shila can
help remove blocks in your energy field, balance and cleanse
your chakras, uncovered patterns, limiting your beliefs, help learn techniques
of building personal resilience against stress, and help guide you
to move forward on your personal spiritual empowerment path. And
I thought, oh, let's give this beenlightening thing a go
and have Sheila in. And I'm really really pleased that
you agreed to do this. Thank you absolutely. And I
see here that it's Reverend Shila b a Universal Master's Healer,
Master Healer. I guess I want to start with the question,
what are your kind of core beliefs you know about
energy and what we are and that sort of thing
where we come from.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well I also do shamanic work too, is
like a shild shamanism. Yeah right, And so I've always
been intrigued with nature, but I also was intrigued with
more of the divine. And I've always been able to
communicate with the angels since i was a kid. Okay,
so I always knew it was kind of I was
special type thing. But I believe that you know, your
life is what you make it, and that it's all
about your values and what you believe in, and how
you actually are programmed, in other words, how you relate
to different things in your life and how your life
turns out. But I always like to be positive. I
know we sometimes it's hard to be positive all of
our lives, but it is is that I believe you
have two choices. You can live in peace and harmony,
or you can live in fear and turmoil, right, And
that's what I believe in.
Speaker 3: There was what sort of always intrigued me and kind
of got me thinking more of this way, I believe
it or not, was a comic who I always thought
would be more of a lecturer. And his name was
Bill Hicks. And Bill has passed. He passed many years ago,
back in the early nineties, and he was more of
I hate using the term cult comic, but he was
kind of in that circuit here and very popular in England.
And he did one of these last things and he
said at the very end of it, it's one of
my favorite pieces. He goes, it's just a ride. It's
just a ride with frills and spills and up and
down and the you know, he goes, and then some
people come back to tell us and remind us it's
just ride. Don't take it so seriously. And he goes.
And then there's those people who go kill them, get
rid of them. What are they doing? And he goes
and it's just fear and love, That's all it is.
Fear says, buy more guns, put bigger locks on my door,
keep people out. Love says, let's give, let's give. And
he said in it, and I'm gonna misquote, and I
didn't even think of it till now when I was
thinking about talking to you. He said, if we took
all the defense money, we could feed the world three
times over, tow whatever it is, over and over, and
it is something with just fear and love, fear and love.
But sometimes we get caught up in the drama. We
like the drama. I think that we like the drama.
I think that sometimes even when life is so simple,
like it's gotten easier and easier as we've evolved. We
have smart TVs, we have this, we have everything at
our fingertips, we still want drama. So we'll go out
and create it in some way, whether it be on
a grand scale with wars or fights or whatever. We
create this kind of garbage, which then leads to Okay,
so are we the creators? Oh?
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely. We make our own lives, our own choices,
and a lot of people don't understand that that we
have so much wisdom inside of ourselves, but we don't
believe in ourselves. And that is from a lot of
the programming that we've had in our life and also
drama on our life. And how do I bring peace
in my life? So love and fear has to do
with having peace or fear. So what I try to
teach people is to go inside, be in the present moment.
And a lot of times people that, oh, you mean mindfulness, No,
I mean go inside and just be quiet and let
your wisdom come through. Let your wisdom meaning your divineness
who you really are as a soul. And then of
course you know, I'm metaphysical. So although people, your loved
ones that have crossed over, your communication with them.
Speaker 3: Tell me about metaphysics, right, because we don't metaphysics. Boy,
I think, I think the only time I learned about
it in an academic setting was in philosophy classes and
more intro philosophy classes where you learned about the like
metaphysical and what that was. And there were great thinkers
of their time that knew that there was something beyond
this and the very simple, simple philosophical idea that the
being that is in the tree is the being that
is in me, and the being is in all things? Right,
you know, whatever the being is? And I dare I say,
dare I say, Sheila, I think religion? And can I
be very very coarse and forgive my friends? I think
religion that's fucked the world up. I'm sorry. I hope
that doesn't offend you with it.
Speaker 4: Program.
Speaker 3: What is why did we do this? I mean, when
we look back at the first Drama, the First War,
it was crusades of wars over religion, over what was right.
And I often think now as an older guy. I
was brought up in the Catholic Church till I was seven,
and then we switched and we went to church every Sunday.
It was such a big deal Sheila in my family,
that was my mother, who the roots are from Southern Ireland,
that we were now Protestant, that my grandfather wouldn't talk
to her for a year. Do you see, like the
ridiculousness of this is over religion, same God, same right.
I mean, I believe the Catholic of Christianity as at
its base, and I went, this is insanity, right, it's insanity.
And when we start to think, like I think that
we've misinterpreted with Jesus or Yeshwa or however you would say,
whatever it is, yes, that but he was a messenger
trying to tell you how to live and that you
have everything. And then the idea of and I don't
I want to hear you. And I apologize for talking
so much. But the when he said I am the
way the truth in life, I think he said my way,
be my way. I think that was misinterpreted. I don't know,
but I've read many people who were more SKUs. Well.
Speaker 4: My view on metaphysics is that meta is above and
physics is the energy around. All right, So when you
think of the scholars and the magnetic field and stuff
like that, but metaphysics is changed completely, I think in
the last twenty thirty years. And there's a reason why
scientifically for that. And it's actually about the energy fields
have changed now, the magnetic field of the Earth. But
how it affects us is the actual consciousness grids. And
when I was talking about energy is consciousness? Okay, what
you think is what you project out, and so things
have changed over the last twenty to thirty years, and
that is scientifically proven, but of course mainstream all right,
and what we learn it's not in there yet. It's
not in there yet.
Speaker 3: Do you think that some of that comes from I
don't want to say, well, I'll ask you. Is it
ignorance or do we think that the general population couldn't
handle that? Because I'm starting to think that we've had
alien encounters for years. I even have read things where
the assassination of President Kennedy was supposed to happen in
nineteen sixty eight because he was going to reveal all
the things about the alien contact, and they killed him,
and then somehow there was a glitch and they went
back and they killed him in nineteen sixty three. But
that energy of whatever happened in nineteen sixty eight affected
both his brother and Martin Luther King Jenior. It sounds
completely insane. You say that. Somebody goes, well, there's a
looney been around the corner, you know what I mean?
But I go, well, wait a second. I want to
be open minded to this because I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I like to call it learning about.
Speaker 2: The new news.
Speaker 3: Okay, new news.
Speaker 4: Meaning things are going to be changing. And yes, there
are going to be a lot of things that come
out about President Kennedy's death, and of course his nephew,
Bobby Kennedy is running with Trump now. But there's a
lot of things that was back there that was being controlled,
all right, And it's all about society how they look
at things, not to change anything. So now we live
in a new energy and I'm a new energy educator
explaining what actually changed. What changed was our mindset is
that humanity didn't want the wars anymore, you know, and
it really started with President Kennedy, you know, when we
had the nuclear wars and everything that was going to happen,
So if you go back there, but also it was
about humanity. Remember we just came off a big war,
World War two and then Korean War two about all
the missiles and stuff that was going to come. So
it was changing. But we as society, i think, really
wanted to have the peace and wanted to do different
in our souls, right, And so things have changed and
it's a different mentality now. And also now with COVID
and everything that happened there, well that was part of
the course of what was going to happen and this
new change of thinking, new consciousness thinking. So that's the metaphysics, right,
that's what energy is about. Metaphysics. And when you were
talking about aliens, well, Native American have always thought that
we came from the stars, and we did come from
the stars. So our DNA is higher evolvement from the stars, right,
and scientifically they have proven that with the chromosomes. However,
mainstream doesn't want to do that because it's you know,
it's big money. You know, we from apes, you know,
our books. In Christianity, this is the way it is.
But in reality, it's all about love to begin with,
all right, And as you said about Yoshua Jesus, you know,
it was a master healer and he came to show
about love, right, but we changed it. You know. It's
like change and control, and humanity has been about control,
yea all along. Right, things that have been hidden have
been hidden for a lot of different reasons, but mostly
so that the ones in control don't lose that control,
and so keep everybody dumb, don't tell them what really
is going on. But it is playing out the way
it's supposed to. All right, So it has to play
out because people have to have time in their physical bodies.
And I when I go back to energy field and
in the we are all electromagnetic fields of energy. That's
how our heart beats and how we breathe in and out,
and it's all connected with the energy around the earth
and how people are behaving and thinking. Now everything is
changing since COVID. It affected the whole world, but there's
a lot of reasons why it affected the whole world too.
Things are slowly coming out and they call it the
light in the dark or you know, the evil, you know.
But I'd like to think of as a different frequency,
all right. So the frequency is the way that you
think and how it comes out and plays out in
your life.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So since COVID has happened, a lot of people are realizing, hey,
something doesn't seem right, you know, And and it kind
of forced us to take our power back in our
own lives. Yeah, all right, So many good things came
from COVID, if a lot of bad things came out
of the control of what was happening. But if you
think back over all the years before, a lot of
control was going on all the way back to Kennedy
Way Back or work to everything right. Things have changed, Yeah,
and there's a new news now is that you can
take control of your life and it's all about you
going within take your power within. A lot of people say, well,
how do I do that? I don't understand it. Well,
you have choices. We've all had choices, but there's consequences
from those choices, of course, and that's what keep us stuck.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, okay, all right, So I have come to
this belief, and tell me where you stand on this.
That you can have or be or do anything you
want and the universe is going to unconditionally support that
whatever it is. So if your mindset is a lack
of you remain in the lack of exactly. You can't
find a way out exactly. And I often think, like
you met my fourteen year old son. I try to
when there's basic coaching stuff, right, I could I remember
my coach. We'd lose a game, he'd be a little softer.
We win a game, we were running harder and make it,
but we didn't care because we felt great and it
was a win. And I always try to equate that
to the thoughts and try to say to people when
you're in the zone, you can do more, you feel better,
You're pushing yourself further, and it's almost like more and
more good things happen and good things come to you.
Is that us create? That's our creation? Right? So I'll
always say too because I have three sons. He has
two older brothers, somewhat significantly older, eight and ten years
older than him, And I'll say to the boys, you
could have three things going well and one going bad.
You focus on the bad and everything's going to fall apart.
You could have three things going bad and one going well.
Focus on the one going well, and then the others
come along. Just that we're not trained in that, and
it's very very I find it hard myself. Easy to say.
I love saying it because it sounds great, makes me
feel good to say it, to be quite honest with you,
but to actually put it into practice is difficult.
Speaker 4: Okay. Now, so look at it this way, Bill, You
are putting in practice because you're teaching it to your children, right,
because you have a different way of thinking. Now, think
back to your own childhood, your own parents. They didn't
know this, They didn't know how to teach it. What
we have gone through in the last thirty years is
new wisdom, really new ways of doing things. So you know,
I'm quite a bit older than you, and I have
grandchildren your age, so I you know, can't undo what
I did before. And what I was taught is what
I was taught. But inside those angels that I talked
about was saying, no, this isn't right. You need to
do this, and I listened. That's the whole point about
being present, listening and then doing different and then therefore
now I'm a role model, and you're a role model
to your children, and they're learning new ways of doing things,
and that's the new programming. Okay, so many people don't
understand that. You know, you need just like the oxygen
mask as a father, you need to put that mask
on first. You need to think and say, well, things
that what I was taught doesn't make sense. So I'm
going to teach my kids this way. And that's what
you're doing. You're saying, you know, just make an effort
and look how you know you feel good saying there
feel good?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And the people that don't help them, and that's
about having compassion, and it's about compassion that love is
so when you keep it in compassion, then everything kind
of goes. And then sometimes it doesn't. You know, you
don't get what you want, which is okay, And that's
about life experience as well. Maybe that door needed to
be closed. Maybe that wasn't the right thing for me.
And that's what usually happens is that you think that
things are bad are going to happen, and they happen
because you, oh, this is going to happen. You put
that in the energy field. But then it's like, now,
wait a minute, now, I don't want to cheat. I
don't want to talk that way. So think about keeping
in the positive, right, or it's the way you think.
So if you think about the game, it's about the game,
having fun, about learning new skills, about building you know, uh,
comradeship and you know, how to relate with somebody you know,
and how to work as a team, and think of
that way and it's like, yeah, but it will give
you such beautiful gifts or wisdom for the future to
make in different directions in your life, right, you know,
making different choices in your life. So it's really it's
really good. And I love how a lot of the
young families. Now they're saying, no, wait a minute, just
like COVID was good because it forced them to be
with the kids, to do different and to slow down,
and it takes the time to do things that they
couldn't do before. Right, that's part of the good news.
Speaker 3: That's interesting that you say that because so many people
worked from home or home a better bonding experience. Often
have a horrible thought about people selling their house in
twenty years and they, you know, during COVID decided to
do some home innovations, but they really weren't that they
could add it. So you're gonna have a bunch of
really shitty home projects. Well it's from two thousand and twenty. Yeah,
I know that. That's always just my way of going
because everybody, hey, we're gonna do a project. I'm like,
have you ever do you even know? Do you know
what T y four a bat?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: You teach all that stuff is there, you can learn it.
That that is true. It's just everything.
Speaker 4: But whether you do it, well, that's.
Speaker 3: Kind of my point. But that that's interesting. Let me
go back to where you said, is it almost I
think the word that kept coming to my mind was
our expectation how many times do we go knew what
was going to happen, but saw that coming a mile away. Okay,
that's you brought that on exactly, And I don't think
that way.
Speaker 4: And that's the role that you have have that those
are the choices that you have, and it's about your thoughts.
So you say, Okay, this is going to happen, It's
happened before, but haven't you had the part we're intuition
that where it did work? Say okay, I'm not going
to go down that road, you know, and that's your
inner source, your god source telling you. And then you
go down a different role. And if you would have
gone down the regular road, you would have been in
an accident, right, So think of it that way. Yes,
it is about your thoughts and how you think. But
also I knew I should have gone there. I knew
that was going to happen. So then you're gonna say, okay,
now maybe I should make a different choice, maybe I
should do different. So it's the wisdom, it's the learning,
and you can't undo that wisdom, right.
Speaker 3: No, you know you can't.
Speaker 4: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't, you can't. So is it a good idea
sometimes to check yourself, so to speak absolutely, like even
during the day, where am I because I've I think
meditation is very good. To just quiet I'm not saying
for any other reason, but just to quiet your mind,
almost go inside and just quiet things down. And sometimes
inspiration hits during that because you're a little more open
to the messages that are there.
Speaker 4: Now you're in my territory.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's where we're going.
Speaker 4: Now you're in my territory, right, So inspiration touches you.
Where does that inspiration come from?
Speaker 3: I usually think then it comes from your inner being
or your your source, right, And I would say that
your inner being is always with you, never stops you
from doing anything, but anytime you feel negative feelings, your
inter being doesn't. So you can go over there with
your inner being or you can stay on this path, right,
and that life never I think the problem is like
for me, I can only speak for myself. I think
that sometimes the thinking is makes sense to me, but
then the reality is whooah. But then I think, Okay,
life's never gonna stop coming at you. But how you
react to it and our knee jerk reaction, which I
feel is most of our program stuff from.
Speaker 4: When we're very very young, and it limits.
Speaker 3: You, limits me, Sheila Holy mackerel, I mean I can't
even and it's taken. I'm fifty three years old and
I'm figuring this stuff out now to kind of go, well,
hang on a second, you need to shed that because
that's not real. It's not real. I think that there
are people will say, what's the meaning of life? And
my answer back nowadays is there is none other than
the meaning you give it.
Speaker 4: Exactly?
Speaker 3: Would that be fair? Okay?
Speaker 4: Exactly? And we are spiritual beings, yes, living a life
in the earth classroom, yes, learning to live life as
a human right. And people don't realize that they can
make a big difference. And it is the programming. So
when I talked about energy psychology, it's about the limitations
in your life, what limits you, and the programs that
you were taught. That is what limits you. Your fears
and your resentments when things don't come through. And then
it's the way that you think and believe and your behaviors.
So a lot of people you know, in recovery or whatever,
they have behavior problems, all right, and they actually put
it on that problem instead of wait a minute, let's
go back inside, what are they feeling inside, what's really
going on?
Speaker 3: Right? What's the root of it?
Speaker 4: Exactly? What's the root cause? And so for my own story,
I had to go back into my childhood and heal
some of that stuff. And also I became an alcoholic
like my parents did. All right, That's something that I
never wanted to be. That was the worst thing. But
now it is the biggest gift because I'm a recovery
metaphysician and I can help people understand psychosocially, why did
they pick up whatever they picked up or what was
the tools that you used to survive? It's all about survival.
Speaker 3: May I ask a question about that?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm very open about that.
Speaker 3: Well, not so much. Maybe your story is. I always
think that we're told it's a disease, and I've had
I have it in my family, like we've done rehab
with people and all kinds of things, But I'm not
sure that it's a disease, and people get angry. I
think it's a way to mask something else. What's the
root cause of it? The root cause to reach for
the bottle wasn't the bottle. It's not sitting there calling
you Although I love guinness, and it's sometimes it calls me,
but you know what I'm saying, it doesn't. And yet
we go and then it becomes well, that person has
a disease. I always think there's something going on that
you need to figure out to heal that, because then
you won't need that. And I think that we were
meant to feel good. How many times in psychology did
they do acid back in the day, right, and people
would say, it's you for it. I think that's how
you're supposed to feel without the acid, but we don't.
So then that that's where I want to get back
to that feeling. I want to get back to that
feeling alcohol the same thing. I want to get back
to that feeling. Sometimes alcohol you feel good for a
little while and then the you go take a sharp
left turn and all of a sudden, you know things
are getting thrown and people there can be an ugly
side to me exactly.
Speaker 4: So there's I have a lot of different feelings about
that or thoughts about that, Yeah, but also life experiences.
So I have been in recovery for codependency for over
forty years from my childhood and also my marriage. Yeah,
but also from alcoholism for thirty one years, and I
did put myself in rehab. I went through alan On
and I went through AA, went through all that stuff.
But the thing is is that what I learned what
It's not the amount that you drink, it's the reasons
why you drink. Now, let's take it away from alcohol.
Let's talk about debt. Let's talk about yes, yes, emotionally,
let's talk about control and you know, trying to be
perfect and all the other things that you have. So
on my website, I have a program called Sobriety through
Spirituality and it takes you back to your childhood. Understand
why did you do the things that you do? All right,
how did it come out? What was the root cause
of trying to be accepted? And a lot of times
when people start the drinking, all right, it's to cover
up the feelings inside of not being loved or not
being listened to or whatever. Now, when I got into recovery,
all right, Yes, they said it was a threefold disease,
all right, a physical, emotional, mental Okay, I oh that
makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I don't believe that anymore, Okay,
because I truly believe I'm not an alcoholic anymore. They
always say once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic, or once
a cucumber, always a cucumber. You can't go back to
being what's a pickle, always a pickle?
Speaker 3: Back? That's the wrong way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But it's like it is about the way your
body metabolizes it. And there's different degrees of alcoholism, all right,
from social drinkers to alcoholism. However, I came from medical
and I always wanted to learn more and more about
medical and how it affected my body. And then when
I started getting involved with holistic stuff from my own healing,
all right, and I was already in recovery for things,
looking at the things that was resentful for and angry
for and stuff like that, I was able to step
and now, wait a minute, so I can change my
life if I do these things, you could. And it's
emotional stuff. Today I feel that I my cellular structure
is different. Is because I healed a lot of emotional
stuff that was within my tissues in my body on
the physical, the emotional, mental, and also the spiritual.
Speaker 3: So then disease is disase, dis.
Speaker 4: Ease anything the body exactly. It's not only just alcohol,
you know, gambling, control anger. Anger is a big one,
all right.
Speaker 3: Why would you say it? Like because help me? No, no,
how teasing I am. I have dealt with anger issues
for years.
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know I was so angry until I
got into recovery a right, and when I was the
only woman out of twelve men, and I just didn't
want you know, they were all different walks of life,
and here I was a housewife, you know. Yeah, And
what she said was what are you feeling? What are
you feeling? And I wouldn't give in. I wouldn't give in.
I said, I don't know what I'm feeling. I don't
know what I'm feeling, And she kept saying, what are
you feeling? What are you feeling? And finally I screamed out,
I don't know what the I'm feeling because I didn't right,
because I was afraid to feel, because I knew that
I was going to cry. And once I started crying,
I would never stop because there was so much pain
and anger inside. And so that's why a lot of
times people stay in those stuck relationships or anything in
the life, is because they can't face the pain of
the anger.
Speaker 3: And the fear of what comes next.
Speaker 4: Exactly it, you can live without it.
Speaker 3: I always think probably the biggest fear for humans is uncertainty.
Why what right? Well, why do we exactly exactly sure?
It comes back to control. That perfectly said, I think
that our fear of death is we don't know what
comes next, so therefore we go so afraid afraid, And
I'm starting to believe like all the resistance just goes
away exactly and it's blissful.
Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about the fear of death.
You know, when I was in nursing school. I went
to nursing school after I got sober, and part of
my classes was hospice care. Yeah, and I started doing
private hospice and I loved it. And that's when spirit
really came out, that I could communicate with spirit and
beyond the normal stuff. And so many people I have
had a lot of tragedy in my own life, right,
so I've dealt with death in that way. And so
many people are so fearful of dying because of what
they've been told that they're not good enough or they're
worthy enough. Right, so much guilt. Yes, and once you
can get past that threshold and let the palliative part
of the family is that we're all souls and what
we learned was just to survive on human earth. But
really there's more to us than our physical misuits as
they call it. Yeah, okay, we are a soul, all right.
We have a lot inside of us and that it lives,
all right. But the pain of feeling guilty that you're
not worthy enough is where a lot of people actually
fight dying, all right, But they also fight about crossing
until they're ready, And a lot of times it has
to do with family situations. A lot of family situations,
they'll want to keep them there all right, and the
person's just spun out. They really want to cross over,
but they want to have peace when they leave, know
that everybody will have peace over it. So that's where
a lot of the palliative care comes in, right. They wait,
like a lot of people will wait until the whole
family's there before they pass over. And of course it's
the black sheep in the family that never had anything
to do with the parents, and the parents waiting for
that black sheep to come in there before they die,
and then the parent people, the other siblings that helped
with them all their life. You know, why what am
I chop liver type thing. But it's all part of
letting go and putting you know, closure on things that
needs to be put closure on. Okay, there's a lot
of a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen it up close, and I have seen
it from a bit from Afar through friends and things,
and even I've had my grandparents pass. But my parents
are here. And uh. It's interesting though, because when you
were talking about crying and not stopping, I had. My
mother became a level three reiki later in life.
Speaker 4: I love that. Yeah, I like, oh, why couldn't she
learn this when I was a kid.
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know, Yeah, I don't, yes, and I
try not to. I always think this when you look back,
because what if Freud is big and everybody blames their
mother and this my father has referred to Mother's Day
as National blame Day because everybody blames their mother. Right.
Speaker 4: I have a lot of stories about that with my mother.
Speaker 3: But so I And there are things that had happened
to me as a child that later on I told
my parents about. My mother was very upset and tried
to do things to rectify that. But when she did
a reiki healing on me and tried to move energy out.
There was a point where she said to me, Wow,
your head is very calm. I thought it was be busy.
It's not as busy as I thought. And I said,
I think my energy is pretty good. But there was
and in my head I started thinking, Mom's taking away
the bad stuff. I started crying and I couldn't stop.
I was gonna She lives in Rhinebeck, New York. I
don't know where. Yeah, I know, I figured he did
the Omega Institute and things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, by white Planes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's where I grew up. And it's a
four and a half hour ride back. I had to
sit for fifteen minutes. I wasn't boohooing. It just wouldn't stop.
It just would It just did not stop. And I went,
there's something that we don't know. We're ignorant to we
we think we I think you do, I think everybody.
I don't know that anybody. And I'll see how you
feel about this. I don't know that anybody. When people
go to psychics and I want to know what's coming
right again, a control thing. I don't know that anybody
can tell you the future, but I believe they can
read your vibration and tell you if you stay on
this path, most likely this is what will occur. And
if you don't like that, well then you've got to
change the path and raise the vibration or do something.
And I think that it. Maybe I'm wrong, but that wrong,
that's absolutely right. That's kind of how I see it,
because I don't know that anybody can tell you the future.
And then there are people who will tell you, well,
it's already happened. All we have is the now, and
everything that you're seeing is from a different perspective in
the now, it's all happened at once. Which you try
to think that way, your head will explode, right, so
you know, or there is no time, and there is
this it's an illusion, and very very brilliant people who
we hold up on pedestools have said these things. And
I'm not talking religious. I'm a physicists Edison and Albert
Einstein and so, and yet we kind of eh, whatever,
because I because why, I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of us don't know any different. Inside
our soul knows why. And we all came here at
this time on purpose. Yes I do know.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you choose to come Oh, you absolutely do.
Speaker 4: And you choose the families that you pick. You choose
a family. I know a lot of people. Yeah, now
that is because it is the wisdom that you need
to learn. Now. I only I say that is because
when you talked about your mother being a reiki master, Well,
my older sister was a reiki master. She's my oldest sibling.
And I have There was ten of my family and
eight kids and my parents and I'm number six each
other and yeah, we got to Vegas to it was
all one marriage, one marriage, a kids that we have
a good chuckle on that one. But the thing was,
I'm number six and everybody is past. I'm the only
one that's left. And I have been able to communicate
with every single one of them when they passed, and
I've actually asked helped three of my siblings pass over,
by the way, And I was just thinking about that
today and they still come to me. It's really heavy.
Last year I had three in my family died within
three months. My sister in law who is my brother's wife,
my sister, and then my daughter in law she was
like my daughter that had the baby with my son,
all right within three months time, and it's about grief,
and it's really about love, all right, not think about that.
So when I share about everything happens for a reason,
and you pick the family that you want, I kind
of share this a little bit about when my brother
Bob died in twenty nineteen. Now, my brother Bob was
my closest sibling. He was six years younger than me,
and he was a staff sergeant in the Marines. And
at that time, there was only one other sibling alive,
and that was my sister Jackie, who died last year.
So all those those family members that died over the years,
I was able to have communication. And my father died
when I was fifteen, so this goes way back, all right.
And I had a lot of resentment towards my parents
and I wasn't able to change any of that until
I got into recovery and I became a medium and
I do all that too, and I was able to
heal all those issues in my tissues, my own resentment,
my anger and stuff like that. But back to my
brother Bob, is that when he he actually was brain
dead for five days. He's brain dead, and my brother
and I was on a we were taking a break
from each other. Right, we were estranged for eight months,
all right, and we had done that three times in
our life. And so when when he actually had conscious
like you just well, what happened was we had a
big fight about who he didn't want at his funeral,
and it was about my will and we're talking about
my will, and then he changed it to his anger,
but his friends that he didn't want to be at
the funeral. Okay, so there was a lot of something.
But what happened was he was yelling, the screaming at
me in a restaurant and I said, no, this is
we're going to boundaries. We're not going to do this thing.
I can't do that. So when I talk about fear
and anger, the anger is deep. And my brother was
very much a very spiritual man and he also was
in recovery like I was. And I'm not going to
say his last name, but he was very spiritual. But
he lost a lot of friendships because of his anger.
Came out of they, you know, trying to help him
see his anger, and he didn't want anything to do
with it. So what happened was when we were estranged,
he had a heart attack and he actually was almost
brain dead when they got to him. When we got
to the hospital, a lot of our friends from the
program was with me, and the doctor came in and
told us that he had about twenty percent of his
brain left. And so I said, what do I tell
my nephew who lives down in New Orleans and my
sister who was in Albany. And he said, he get
them here now. And right after the doctor left, my
friends are in the room, and all of a sudden,
everybody came to me, my parents, all my siblings, all
my guides, all my angels, everybody came to me. And
I said, I can how can I do this again?
And I started crying, and they said, this is what
you're here to do, and you're going to live it,
and this is what you do. And immediately my brother
Bob came right before my face, not like the anger
he was at the restaurant, but he said, I'm not
coming back. You know what to do. I'll be calling
the shots and I'm standing right beside you. Now, that's
exactly my brother Bob. He had always said that we've
gone through a lot of stuff in our life, and
the reason why he didn't want to come back was
that his health care proxy. He did not want to
be a vegetable in anything, right, And then I knew
what to do. I was my health his healthcare proxy
when he went to the Marines in the late seventies,
all right. And then also he'll be calling the shots
because he's he's a master marine. You know, it's his
way or the highway, and that he would be standing
right beside me because he always was. And that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Well, did you feel like the resistance for him was gone?
The anger was gone?
Speaker 4: Well, the thing was that's the whole point. I was
going to tell you this. We live for this wisdom
and we picked the families that we are growing in
to learn the wisdom to be able to relate to people. Okay,
and Bob chose to have all that anger and all
of my sister too. My sister was as a raking.
Speaker 3: Ass's suffering though, right, I mean that's suffering.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing, well, suffering is how we learn to
have compassion for somebody. Okay, Okay, So if you haven't
gone through it, and let's see why, I just don't understand.
You know, why don't you just stop drinking whatever? Didn't
realize there's a lot more to just picking up the drink.
Speaker 3: There is.
Speaker 4: There's the core reason, the root cause. Okay, so that's
where when you go to counseling, you know, you know
how you're feeling. And that used to really team me off.
I go to counseling and they would say, Okay, how
are you feeling? You know it says, and they say, okay,
that's good, we'll pick this up next time. You know,
it's time to time, then says, and then you walk
out the door and you're a basket case. It's like,
give me some tools for.
Speaker 3: God's sake, because you're all stirred up. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So when when you know this all came about about
me become a recovery metaphysician and when I started working
on myself hold this in the nineties, is that I
learned it's like, you need to connect with the person
from the heart compassion, all right, you need to be
able to connect. It's called into me c intimacy, into
me c intimacy exactly. Well, that's that's what recovery is
all about, when you're in the rooms and all that stuff.
So with my brother Bob, is that we were always
close like that, but once you cross over, you are
just pure soul. You don't have any of the hate
or the anger anymore. However, you might have the same
persona if a medium is bringing it through. Which I
do is that you will say the same things and
say it and act the same things as their persona
was in that lifetime, so that you would recognize them.
But their soul is all pure love and you purposely
lived that life so that when you come back another time,
you can do it all over again. But the difference
now is that we are changing in this energy and
then we can live in this higher frequency and as
when we cross over, we can come back. We don't
have to start over again. That's the difference, and that's
the scientific stuff. So that would be another conversation.
Speaker 3: I find it all like, yeah, fascinating, But I'll ask
you when you talk about the issue and the tissues
right and and healing so many people and more, it
seems like as a collective society we're much more open
to talking and seeking therapy and getting help, But are
we really healing ourselves? Because how do you do that? Right?
We we spend lots of money, we'll sit, we'll spend
an hour, like you said, once a week or whatever,
talking to somebody and going through things. And I was
against talk therapy for a while in the thinking that
cognitive therapy, yes, well that's that's yes, No, that's exactly.
I like that better. But yeah, because I think I've
always refer to as talking because it felt like you
were just talking about the problem and there where you
stay stuck in the problem. There was almost no solution.
It was everything's terrible today and you wouldn't believe this.
Now here we go.
Speaker 4: Again, just letting it write and down.
Speaker 3: And I go. But you feel like you stay stuck there,
and then, so what is the healing process to go
back and do it? Because I often think that all
you have is now, and you've got choices, So go
with the one that feels best. Do it to its fullest,
to the fullest ability, without any real consequence or I
shouldn't say consequence, but any real worry about the outcome.
Just do it to the best of your ability, with
no desire for an outcome, and the outcome will be wonderful. Yeah,
but those are great things to say.
Speaker 4: Okay, So when you talk about issues and the tissues
kind of make it really simple for you, okay, Okay,
So everything you've experienced in your lifetimes, all your lifetimes
is within your energy field, and your energy field is
within your DNA, your siritual energy field, your DNA, So
everything you've experienced is within you. And then in this
lifetime you have energy things that happen to you that
get stuck in the energy field. So when I talk
about issues and the tissues, I'm talking about block emotions
that get and there's different types. Most of the people
here feel is the shame and the anger and the guilt, okay.
And so when I work on people or the modality
that I do, I'm going to conduit and I bring
all those energy blockages away and then I imprint it
with positive block positive in an energy field, so you
feel nice, harmonious, right. And that's why reiki is about
bringing the energy into the chakras and the body slowly
heals itself, integrate energy therapy and uni field healing, which
is higher quantum energy. That's the new energy that's here.
That's what I specialize in with energy psychology, is that
you are bringing into a your body knows, your DNA knows,
the harmony they knows the peace and so the more
you do it, the more harmony you have. But also
your soul will actually tap into that wisdom. Okay, I
need to make different choices, and that comes through the
talk therapy or talknitive therapy that's in the field, but
also the practitioner that's working with you can help you
understand where these blockages come from, how they got there,
and then the choices, you know, to come and think
differently or release them that you can't undo, but you
can move forward from it and use the wisdom from
that to make different choices.
Speaker 3: Right. And I think sometimes and it's not the wrong
word I was going to say, but the word trauma
is used.
Speaker 4: Often well, post traumatic stress.
Speaker 3: Which I believe is very very real for you. But
I sometimes go, boy, these words words mean things. You know,
the old saying that sticks and stones may back by moms,
but words will never hurt me. Words powerful you choose.
Speaker 4: The side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that that stuff is very very important.
And I know it sounds weird when I say these things.
People I was looking at me like.
Speaker 4: This guy talking about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I really believe that there's real power there, right,
real power because a lot of times the words come
from the way we think, right, They they're a thought first, yes,
and so you want to have that. But sometimes I
often think with trauma is yes, bad things have happened,
or what we deem to be bad, and you can
either dwell on that or use the contra I always
like to think it's contrast. I know what I want
and I know what I don't want. Right, and sometimes
something worked for a while. And a very very simple analogy,
one that has to upset people is I love the
but I outgrew the car now right, I had a
two seater and now I have a family. It doesn't
work anymore. It's time to get into a new car.
And that sometimes those are the changes that you need
to make. And I think that fear holds us back
and then we get angry, and then we blame other people.
Is it fair to say? And I'll, i'll I believe this,
and yet sometimes I don't know that I true my core,
really believe it. Everything that happens to you is your fault.
Speaker 4: It's called the victim role. Huh, blame blame blame.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I mean and I mean that good
or bad, no matter what, whatever, has happened in some way.
You brought that on, and this is a giant magnet
up here that you're attracting, attracting, attracting, and that's all
there is. There's no real assertion. There's only attraction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can change that with the neurotransmitters, the
way do you think, right, and the things that you do,
so you can regrow some more cells and change that.
It doesn't always have to.
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't that. I think that that does change
scientific I think there's also when you talked about DNA,
I believe that there's DNA that is not coded in
the human body. Would that be am I wrong? Yeah?
And I think that they're starting to study at places
like Harvard, the and Yale the uncoded DNA and how
to awaken that and the power of water. I think
I talked to you briefly about knotty water and the
healing of that, and I I think it's called aravetic medicine. Aravatic. Yeah,
I wasn't sure if I was saying it the right way,
but more of a I guess we say Indian culture. Yeah, okay,
so I had I don't know what this gentleman did
doctor deep. He sat there and he held my wrist
and pulsed and did this and that, and then said,
will give you years that are blocking you, years of
where something happened. And basically he said, put it down.
Now we have all said, everybody has said at one
point let go and let God, let go, and like God, right,
but that's pretty much the same thing, just let go.
But man, we can't. We can't because if we let go,
what happens next? And I think that's the problem. So
when I'm very curious, I guess for me, in a
selfish way, how do you do this healing so where
you really can let go and every day can be
I'm not saying that. I had an incident the other
day where I'm trying to get a replacement Social Security card.
It was such a clusterfuck, but so entertaining, like I
found it delightful. I went in there and I had
my bag, it's over on the chair over there, and
I had I'm trying to get the kid to eat
something in the morning. It doesn't want to eat. I
had bought these croissants that have a sausage, egg and
cheese and you just throw it in the microwave. You
don't mean something simple. I can just let's move along here.
And I always have normally what I would refer to
as my this is terrible, my prison breakfast. I usually
eat three boiled eggs in an apple. I called it
very good, I know, but I call it the prison
breakfast because it's easy and it's easy to care. But
this day I had that I get to this to
get my Social Security card. They go any food or
drinking there and I said, yeah, I got it. You
can't have it, so I got to go all the
way down to the car put it back in. Now
I come in, I cut all all through through the bag.
I have to go through the security. I'm getting wanded,
belts off the whole thing. I get over to the machine.
I type in all this information. It's supposed to give
you a ticket, like at the DMV. I hear it
were nothing comes out. I goes, what happened? I said,
I don't know. He goes, do you remember the number
it showed? I said, I think I do, but I'm
not sure. I was going to depend on the ticket.
He goes, well, you better get over to that machine
and re enter the stuff. And he goes, this one's
probably out of paper. I said, Okay, he walks over,
goes Yep, it's out of paper. Does he go get paper? No, Sheila.
He reaches down and picks up an out of order
sign and just puts it right on there. Yeah, and
I went, this could drive you nuts, or you could
be very entertained by it. It's not like anything bad's happening,
you know what I mean, there's nothing bad. But that's
the kind of stuff that I think when we talk
about trying to live, that's it's in those moments where
you could really go off, like I got to re
enter this, Now, what the fuck is with these people? Yes, yes,
and I have would normally be that way, but for
whatever reason, I was going, this is somewhat entertaining. I
was entertained by it. And I get to talk on
my podcast about you know, all this stuff, and so
to me, everything's a story, right, it's a fun story.
Speaker 4: Whole life is a story.
Speaker 3: Yes, But I but in those little moments, those are
the things that make up life. Those are the things
that can really bring on the disease. You reactivate something
in you that isn't healthy. When we're finding the look
as you're talking. And this is why I think it's
so important to talk about these things. How many people
have high blood pressure and stress because they can't it's
through your thoughts. It all starts in your head.
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's what heart math is all about. What
is it heart math?
Speaker 3: I couldn't even do algebra.
Speaker 4: So no, no, no, no, it's not what you think
heart math is about. It's through Heart Math Institute in
California and also Heart Math Institute and Harvard University in Nassau.
Speaker 3: See all these This is why I think it's so
important to connect that stuff. So people go, this is legit.
Speaker 4: Well, this is what I do. This is what I
do with the heart Math. Now in the Energy Center
energy sessions that I do, I do the modality called
integrated Energy Therapy, which is about the issues and the
tissues and it's all about heart linking the energy. Okay.
Heart Math Institute is about self resilience against stress and trauma.
How do you build that without any chemicals? And they
have it's called the heart coherence technique. Is where you
think about the things that you're very that your heart desire,
things that you love that you're compassionate about that you
love and you think about it in your head. So
you make the connection between your heart and your head
and you just do regular breathing. Okay. But the thing
is is when you're in that regular breathing for a
good five minutes okay, your body self regulates, it goes.
It has to do with your heart rate. It's called
the heart rate variability. Heart rate variability, and it's where
your body goes balance, just like a newborn baby. Now,
when you go into that, you go in you work
with a pair of sympathetic in the sympathetic nervous system,
which means your blood pressure, you know your adrenal glands,
how you process your digestion, everything. So once you learn
heart rate variability, how you when you learn heart coherence.
All right, breathing and you do that, there's actually five
different levels. What you're actually doing is building your consciousness,
level of perception and feeling and reacting. And as you
change the chemistry in your body, we're relaxed so that
when you're that's what you were doing. You were actually
you know, you didn't get all upset about that ticket whatever,
but also you knew that you're going to mean me.
But but serendipity in coincidences, no coincidence at all. So
that's the new energy that's here. That's the new news
that I like to say, is that there's a way
of doing things differently, and you do that by experiencing it.
And usually it's by sachrenoicity and serendipity. You meet somebody
that does that, Hey I'm attracted to that. How did
you do that? How did you whatever? And so it's
by reaching out with that compassion from your heart, bringing
the heart center energy out into me c. So that
works with everything in your life. Yes, okay, So I
like working with heart with law enforcement Okay, also from
healthcare workers because I was one. So we wear the
biggest mask, okay, because we have to do the work
that we do, especially all the trauma and all the
gory stuff that we deal with. Once we take off
that mask and we go home, then our lives fall apart.
Is because we don't know how to live in coherence
of who we really are as a soul. We have
a role to play and that's how you're programmed. So
when you go back and look at your life, is
that this is what I always did, and this is
what I was taught. I don't know how to relate
to things. All I know is how to get angry, right,
And so you need to change, and so how do
you do that? You go within without any chemicals and
you actually train your body to do that, right, And
so what happens that you start to change. And that's
where I said putting the astra mask on first as
a father, and then you're role modeling to your son
how to different things that you never had before.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I often think that sometimes you would almost say it's selfishness, right,
But that's a great analogy of putting that on it.
But if you're not okay here and you can't handle stuff,
how are you gonna be good for anybody else?
Speaker 4: Exactly? And in integrated er GI therapy, when I teach
that when we heart connect, it's about compassion, it is
about selfishness, it's about spiritual selfishness. Yeah, all right, take
care of yourself first, right, and that's the heart connection
that you have. And that's okay. But we've been told
it's selfish of us to take so much time to
go into medic state. Yes, so that's the programming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because I have been meditating for years.
I think I'm terrible at it. My mind goesmingming, and
it takes me a while, and sometimes I have to
really concentrate on my breathing. But I just to your
point that all of this is connected. I had an
EKG and I was a little worked up, so I
just went into that state and I set off alarmed
because my heart rate got so low. It got below
forty five or forty four beats a minute, and mine's
normally around fifty. But I just I was like, you
can do it. You can can control. All of this
is in within your control. And the knee jerk reactions
of the problem they're usually not the right one. So
I always say, you like, give it a bead and
try to find But you know, most of this is
it's just silly. It's just silly drama that we like.
I always think of the Shakespearean line of we're just
players who Strutt and Fred are hour upon the stage
and then are heard no more? Right? Is that sort
of what it is? But you can live, you can
actually live. Why wait to die to have the freedom
exactly right? When you can do it here? The problem
is it's easier said than done. And I think that's
where you know, going to someone like you and learning
or listening to this. I think it's fantastic. How do
people find you?
Speaker 4: Go to my website? Yeah, Sheila Chillick dot com. That's
s H E I L A T I L L
I c H dot com.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's it's sometimes it'll auto fill.
Speaker 4: That's good, but it's it is pronounced.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: But it's actually said Tillic. It's German, my ex husband's name. Okay,
So you can go there. And also I teach classes
on it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So integrated energy therapy is about the issues and your tissues.
But a lot of practitioners like reiki masters or massage
therapists and doctors and lawyers, and I teach everybody they
want it for another certificate on the wall or to
piece whoever I et. I teach is about you healing. First,
you understand your own stuck blackages, the actual trauma with
inside you, how did it get there? So that once
you understand that, then you can have more compassion and
to be able to help other people.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So I have four different levels, but the first three
levels I do it in a weekend, and that is
so that you can start using it on yourself right away.
And the three levels. I teach all three at the
same time, meaning I incorporate some of the stuff that
you learn techniques in the first one so that it
kind of flows. And it's called an intensive workshop. It's
actually the first three levels. When it was first taught,
it was taught the clinical for people didn't know anything
about energy at that time. Of course we've expanded since then.
All right, but I try to bring it into your life. Now,
how can you have peace within your life and heal yourself?
A lot of people say, well, I don't need to
heal myself. I'm perfect, Well you are, But how do
you live in life? You know, in the drama of
life and live in life on life's terms, right, right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: And also the programming the things that you always did
and you know that it's not working anymore. You're you're
feeling a disease, yes, right, So how do you change?
And it always starts about you first, and then it's
a ripple effect, right, the ripple effect of the energy
that goes out. It's all about energy and your choices
that you make love or fear.
Speaker 3: It is, and it's so simple and yet not it's
exactly it's my thing because there are times where I
go I know I need to connect, I know what
the right thing is. I know I need to let go,
but I'm so stuck in my habits, bad habits.
Speaker 4: So that area is the shoulds that's on your shoulders.
It's called the stuck shoulds, the should of what isn't
good as if only if? And I know that's where
you're beating yourself up, right, And so once you release that,
what the angels put back in is freedom no more
way down in the world.
Speaker 3: I often think all the time, like, you know what
is money? It's freedom. It's the ability, right, and you
can really get yourself thinking wonderfully, and if you can
stay there, that's when everything works well.
Speaker 4: The problem is is that you can be in meditation
and be great, feeling great, and you go out into
the world and then you get triggered by the energy
of somebody else. So that's where the energy field comes
into play, right, and understanding that you're always going to
get triggered by somebody or something. And haven't you ever
gone into a room or whatever and you like somebody
you don't know why is because I've got so much
stuck inside them. The energy you feel, the anger like
my brother, you know, it's like it comes out oozes.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how spiritual you are. If you've got
locked stuff inside, there comes out and you get triggered
really easy, and it'll take your way back to stuff
that never got dealt with, right you know. Yeah, so
those are the triggers in the energy field.
Speaker 3: How do we so what is the method for dealing
with something and letting it go?
Speaker 4: Go within? Just go stay in the present moment? Do
you how important is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you go in and just kind of realize
that it's not significant today? That's not anything that you
know what I mean? I mean there's many different things, right.
People suffered sexual abuse or something along the way, and
there's anger out of that. There's things lives have been
altered because of that. You know you're thinking in a
way has been altered, right, which is really life has
lived in your head?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And I always wonder like, how do you I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, maneuver it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I always thought, well, you gotta be like water,
Water gets around the rocks. Water can be calming, water
can be wonderful or water can be destructive.
Speaker 4: And water is where you can energize the water and
get more healing. Yes, because your body is made up so.
Speaker 3: Much of water.
Speaker 4: Water, right exactly, So that is what you put in
is what you get out.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: When you talked about meditation, I had a hard type
to oh, you know, why do you have to do this?
And you know, to go up to consciousness field. The
difference in the energy, noality, You can get there in
a heartbeat, right, And the thing is being present, like
I said, close the doors, you know, start light a
candle if you want to, but just be present. And
I always talk about this, this technique called SIP, sit
in present and it only takes about three minutes a day.
And what you do is that you take some nice
deep breathing all right, just to get yourself relaxed, you know,
make sure you're a loan, close the door and just
sit in the present moment, set your alarm for three minutes,
and then ask go with inside and say what do
I need to know today? And then a lot of
times all this stuff comes in your head, just let
it go, buy like clouds, what do I need to
know today? And the whole key is that your helpers,
your soul knows it, and they will come. They will
give you direction. They'll say do this, do that, and
then you say, well, how do I do that? The
thing is training yourself to sit in the present moment
so that you can listen and hear your inner source
talking to you, the power that you have inside. Yeah, okay,
And so it's only three minutes. You know, say, well
that was quick. You know that's not doing anything. Well,
it's repetition. Go back into it. You have to train
yourself to being in a different energy. Think about that
and relate to people. So I actually learned that from
one of my mentors, Susanne Geeseman, a right who is
called Sip, and she put sit in prayer. So you
go inside and you pray, you know what do I
need to whatever? If you're going to do rosary or whatever.
But I kind of turn it around and go back
to the power that you have inside. Each and every
one of us have our own power, but a lot
of times we give it away to everybody else instead
of going within side. So that's what this new news
is about. You have the power you can tap inside
and it is scientific, tiftically proven. We can do a
whole show on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can see those are the things that
I love and I think we should at some point.
This is fascinating to me.
Speaker 4: Well, I just had one of my mentors and one
of the team that I'm part of is Lee Carroll,
who channels Cryon and he's part of the high scientific field.
Speaker 3: He channels I don't know, he.
Speaker 4: Channels cry On.
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 4: Cryon is an entity and an angelic entity that was
came here to Earth in nineteen eighty nine, right, and
it it talks about how do you change your life,
how do you deal with life situations? And it's all
about the new energy what has changed in the magnetic field.
He's called the Magnetic Master. And Lee Carroll, gentleman. Lee Carroll,
he actually wrote the book Indigo Children. Oh, I've heard
of that book, So everybody's heard about that.
Speaker 3: I've never read it, but I heard about it.
Speaker 4: Well, what the book is really all about is.
Speaker 3: That how on the bookstore and Rynebeck I'm not kidding it.
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, And it's called It's about children that are
different now like the adhd add Allsberger, you know all
the other ones. But the really children that are born
after a certain time when this energy has changed in
the earth, that's the new energy. That's what I teach, okay,
And so everybody kind of well, my child is different.
They can think differently, and they have a mind of
their own or whatever. That's right, because they're at a
different vibration. It's all about frequency, higher and lower frequency.
And so when you think of negative or positive, just
think a negative as a lower frequency or the dark
and and the other is light is higher frequency. And
so what is happening now is that a lot of
the dark stuff is coming to the light. It's coming out.
Humanity is changing and realizing we can't do this anymore.
Speaker 3: We have to change.
Speaker 4: That is what is the new energy. And so the
children what medical picked up on it. They started medicating them. Yeah,
it's all about chemicals, yes, all right, because they don't
know how to do it any different. It's all medicine
is about chemicals and stuff like that. When energy medicine
is about turning inward. Without the medicine, you can use
it if you need to, but in it you really
go inside and do the healing with inside. And so
children that are higher frequency like that they learn differently,
but they also have more of imagination and things come
into their field. That's the new inventions that are here now.
The young ones see that.
Speaker 3: That's the part that is fascinating. I think imagination is
the greatest thing you can have. Oh, Albert Einstein talked
about imagination.
Speaker 4: Elon Musk you know is you know, uh, and he
is a great he is a great inventor. And that's
what it's all about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting much, Sheila, I could go forever and ever.
Speaker 4: I could too.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: I love I love seeing your you know, because I
can see you know, it's like, yeah, I can finally
talk to somebody. She understands.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, exactly, and I well, I'll leave it on this.
And sometimes I think this is because we did talk
about things that trigger people, right, so I try to do.
I believe that everything in your life is a different segment. Yes, right,
you'll leave here it's a new segment. It's a new segment.
And I think you can segment intent and then even
if there's somebody that you have had a problem with
but you have to be around them, think of the
positive attributes of that person. If you can or something
and that's usually you'll get more of that and less
of the other. Would that be fair? Is that a
right way thinking? Okay, I'm yeah, absolutely, because I say
this stuff and sometimes I think people think i'm and
I just think.
Speaker 4: About the bullies.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: So hurting people hurt people. Yeah, yeah, healing pro people,
heal people.
Speaker 3: So I will say, right, shouldn't admit this. But I've
been become very very aware of this now that when
I'm hurt, like hurt, something really kind of wounds me
or doesn't add up. I want to hurt, hurling so
you feel how I feel exactly.
Speaker 4: And that is the terrible Well, but you know that's
kind of like the victim role. I'm going to show
you type thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it, and.
Speaker 4: But that's the that's the tissues. Yes, that is where
you've been, you know, beat up so much, you know,
and that the shame and the guilt and all this
pain that's inside. But when somebody does something to you
and you get triggered by it's like you know, all
that old stuff comes into your field, right, and so
you learn it by understanding what those triggers are. How
did he get there? How did he get there? How
did the guilt and the shame and the anger and
resentment get there? It was not being heard or loved
or listened to or feel like you should be loved. Right,
So it's a misconception, you know, childhood, you know, you know,
my parents was brought up in the thirties, you know,
in the fifties, and I was born in the fifties.
But they they taught us what they knew. They didn't
know any difference.
Speaker 3: So that's what I always think. I started to say earlier,
they did the best they could with what they knew,
with what they knew. And I sometimes now see myself
going back to things I saw at that those programming
years when you were sort of programmed, and I go,
that's not how I want to be. That's not who
I am, That's not who I really am. I don't
like that, and I don't want them to see that,
and I don't want to be that way, you know.
But it's taken this long to kind of get there
and realize and I can control it exactly through my thoughts.
And you don't need chemicals necessarily. And I would say
that to anybody who's listening, who if you if you
take medicine. I always think that some of those are
a tool, right to help you be better. Yea, and
you said that, you said you both and I do.
Speaker 4: Both right, And a lot of it is my brain
chemistry for depression from all the trauma, right changed it.
It's like I have had hard time focusing, and I'm
the last one to want to take meds. However, I
knew I needed help, and so I got help. And
there's no shame in that you use just like a diabetic,
you need the insulin, you don't, you know, just because
you don't want to take it. It's like, okay, now,
thank Gosh that now we have the actual medical inventions
that help us be able to regulate our insulin. And
we have it before we didn't. So that's the good
science that we have. And it's always about evolution, yes, okay, evolving. Yes,
this new energy is about evolving into a higher frequency
or a higher ascension. All right. So you know, I'm
a galactic grandmother, which means I help people understand the
higher wisdom withinside themselves right through my own experience and
stuff like that. But I was to help somebody to
understand that they do have the power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do, you have, you do, but how you
use it? Yes, that light has been put out in
a lot of people, exactly, it really has. It's kind
of like you pilot light has been put out on
your water heater.
Speaker 4: It's just like the people that ready to get ready
to die, you know, they don't feel worthy, they don't
feel worthy, and they feel guilty. Yes, and they're afraid
right right, instead of you are worthy. Yes, everybody learns
all this stuff. That's what my parents said. I came
here to learn what I needed to learn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm here to do. And I always
think like one of the hardest things for humans to
do is be unconditional and unconditional loving. I almost think
it's an impossibility for humans. But your inner being is
that and you are loved so much that what ever
you want to be, do or have, you can. Whether
it's negative or positive, it can be and it's sort
of your we label it negative or positive. I always
think this, you never get it wrong, you never get
it done. Oh, that's one right, you never get it done.
That's right.
Speaker 4: That's what I say.
Speaker 3: Never stop, never stop. You just never get it done.
Because we're always evolving, and there's always contrasts, and there's
always the things, and you know, on a sort of
a simplistic philosophical way, you never get it done and
that and that's a good thing. You don't ever want
to get it done because the eternal beings can't exactly. Yeah,
I think we'll end it there that this has been fascinating.
I loved every minute of this yet and I hope
you'll come back sometime. All right, fantastic. Uh, We'll do
more of these, and I am going to call them
Bill Lightenman. I think this will be a little teaser
for people to get used to what that podcast will be.
And we'll put it out and you can become a
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Bill I five will remain free, but podcasts like this
will go behind that paywall and you can you can
find that out and we'll do more, Bill lightenman. But Sheila, man,
I feel like I found somebody I know now.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: For Sheila, I'm Bill Moran. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 4: Thank you