WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:07.759 He was a commander for podcast episode five O four 2 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:09.359 on brand O. Here Ryan, and we're gonna talk about 3 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:12.160 we live in the darkest timeline now, are. 4 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:29.199 Not fucking put the headphones on? 5 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.800 Gary. I swear to god, I'm gonna have to fucking 6 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:35.399 SUPLEXU through the roof through the roof level. 7 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:41.840 See you're perfect in vemix. I swear to god, they're 8 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:46.399 so perfect that I could say something totally insane like Hey, Ryan, 9 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:52.039 we're back for yet another whirlwind adventure. How you doing? 10 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:56.000 What's going down? 11 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:00.280 You would know why he's talking like that if you're 12 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:07.200 watching on YouTube. There it is. Today's a very exciting day. 13 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:09.840 We're actually gonna talk about something that's been going on 14 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:13.120 on like the social media realms, Oh my god, going 15 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:16.079 around big time, and like the Magic discourse. We're actually 16 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:18.400 going to address a current thing. 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You have to do some editing though, 37 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:38.639 using some some studio magic. 38 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:43.199 Would you would you say that TMS, that's Tyler Bertuleystone 39 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:48.000 got a good box or a bad box. 40 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:56.520 I'll have to watch and find out. 41 00:02:56.800 --> 00:03:00.639 Oh you could hear producer Gary there in the background. 42 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:03.280 Big thank you to the different Avenue Media, Studio Network, 43 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:06.840 Studio Network, met Network men work men. 44 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:09.400 Work studio, men at work. We do have some lads 45 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:12.759 that work here. Currently it's only men at work. 46 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.520 The Dufferent Avenue Media men's work. 47 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:21.919 That's ell yam that's working on right now. Is it's 48 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.120 the three of us Producer Gary. You all know producer Gary. Yeah. 49 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:27.919 Here we are, here we are and uh big thanks 50 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:33.280 to the Patreon supporters over at Patreon a dot com slash. 51 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:35.159 I gotta look at my phone to do this because 52 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:36.240 I gotta hit the button. 53 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:41.120 The CCO podcast we have a new one. Oh my god. 54 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:45.879 And I didn't even tell you their pseudonym before we started. 55 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:48.360 So this is gonna be one of the Uncle Brando's special. 56 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:49.719 Those live nicknames. 57 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.840 Oh sh yeah, this is brand new patron who needs 58 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:55.759 their totally Patreon benefit. 59 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:59.360 Of being having a super sweet nickname for the discord, 60 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.240 which is an actual benefits. You's gonna beat all the 61 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:02.960 dude you talk about here on the show all the time. 62 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:08.719 Lara actually just said she had a night Paladin vehicle 63 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:13.919 for me. That's vehicle that deals damage. I'll put it 64 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:15.439 in a fucking mind skinner. 65 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:17.839 And you guys are get a mill and I. 66 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:19.519 Was gonna buy one on Fusion Gaming online to come. 67 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:22.160 We need to in order for that to happen, wouldn't 68 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:23.319 you have to play magic with us? 69 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:25.639 I never heard of it. We're gonna we're gonna actually 70 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:29.800 talk about that today. Yes, I have a very significant 71 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:32.199 point I want to make about playing a little bit 72 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:37.120 less magic than normal. That very much ties into today's topic. 73 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:40.360 And before we get to it, though, I like when 74 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:45.720 real life impacts work life. Yeah, but it's fucking heavy though. Whatever, 75 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:47.839 it's cool, Like, let's let's weigh them down. 76 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:52.600 Today's Patreon supporter Obnoxious gear Hulk. 77 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:55.319 That's a good name. 78 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:58.319 Obnoxious gear Hulk became a patron. 79 00:04:58.480 --> 00:04:59.680 That's a great supporter. 80 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:03.480 We've very much appreciate it. Also, f you if you're 81 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:05.360 in the discorder or if you go in the discord, 82 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:07.600 you'll get a bunch of finger blasting and middle fingers. 83 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:11.800 That's a benefit. You need a real nickname. That was 84 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:13.319 a fake name. So we have to come up with 85 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:14.079 like different. 86 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:15.160 I want like. 87 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:18.759 Herbert Gerbrand, Herbert gear Hulk. 88 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:22.000 No, I want I want some gear hulk because everybody 89 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:23.199 kind of has an idea. 90 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.519 In their head about what about what about a gear hulk? Right? 91 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.639 What a gearhol looks like is a gearhulk, just a 92 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:33.160 great big gear, a hulking gear, A gear hulk or 93 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.480 gear gears, a bunch of small haulks. 94 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:38.480 A gear hulk. And Internet speak is like that dude 95 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:40.319 who's leaning over the edge of the bed with his 96 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.639 you know, his whole three popcns stacked on top of 97 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:47.279 each other hanging down like that's that's a gear hulk 98 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:49.680 to me, Like when it's. 99 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.920 So big that it it looks like a link of 100 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:53.560 kuba saw. 101 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.560 Do people that aren't from our part of the world 102 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:02.839 know what kuba saw is do? But also not like 103 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:10.759 from Poland or the Ukraine. Oh yeah, yeah, the Western Canada, Poland, Ukraine, 104 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:12.199 maybe some parts of Germany. 105 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:16.759 U kuba saw cubisaw is a what is a garlic sausage? 106 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:18.600 It is a type of sausage. 107 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.319 Yeah, I don't know what makes it kupa saw, but 108 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:26.480 I want to say welcome and f you too obnoxious 109 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:30.600 to chubby cupisaw. I was gonna say obnoxious cupissas hulk. 110 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.759 No, I like I like chubby ubby cubasa. I don't 111 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.720 know why the chubby chubby is a fun word to say, 112 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:41.240 and it's I think I find chubby a very rude 113 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:45.399 word what really, I don't like It's one of my 114 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:50.439 favorite words is chubby. Think of it. I'm thinking of 115 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:52.720 chubby cubasas. I think we're talking. I think we're thinking 116 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.360 imagine anything that's chubby. It's always better. 117 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:57.560 I think we're thinking about different things. 118 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:58.720 I don't think we are. 119 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:01.879 Which which did direction like up or down? Does a 120 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:03.399 chubby Kubasaw. 121 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:09.279 Point, Yes, I'm not. 122 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:13.600 I'm not sure. I'm not sure what I like more 123 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.759 or less than yes, I like juby. In regards to 124 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:19.399 Chubby Kubisaw's. 125 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:21.680 Well, welcome to you. I like that they're aboard and 126 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:25.240 we appreciate you being here, and we're sorry, but welcome 127 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:27.279 to the Discord and welcome to the family. We really 128 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.879 do appreciate it very much. Save a little bit help. So, Yeah, 129 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.160 this week we're going to talk about something that we 130 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.160 said in the intro or I said the intro, but 131 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.759 we talked about before the show, the Darkest timeline because, 132 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:43.839 as we will recall, Walking Dead happened and it was 133 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:48.600 the end of magic. Yes, sir, it's gonna be solid 134 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:54.160 snake versus a Molson beer can. Oh. 135 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:56.920 Speaking of beer big thanks to Pilot Bone's Brewery. 136 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:02.639 And the official sponsor c CEO s What Slam Season 137 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:09.360 three are returning very soon to YouTube versus YEP, Optimus 138 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:14.680 Prime versus Rainbow Bright all Hasbro properties, and we're all. 139 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:18.439 Like, oh, and and Ball's Hasbro properties. We've got Lord 140 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.120 of the Rings and Final Fantasy and we're getting there, right. 141 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:24.040 I just used Hasbro properties because those were the most 142 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.600 easily accessible ones because they could just use them, right. 143 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.360 But now we've gone past that. It's been a couple 144 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.519 of years since this has happened, and now we've were 145 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:37.480 actually into a release cycle right now to day as 146 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:40.480 you the listener are listening to this, where we have 147 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:46.559 had the single biggest magic set of all time. That's 148 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.240 Final Fantasy, shocking both of us because I didn't think 149 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:51.840 it was going to go past Lord of the Rings 150 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.879 and neither did Ryan, and it did. So it's the 151 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:57.960 biggest magic set of all time. And we haven't hit 152 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:01.360 the Christmas release yet. Oh my god, so holy shit. 153 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.759 Then we had a space themed Magic to the Gathering set, 154 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.960 fucking whatever. But before that was even released, we're already 155 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:14.440 onto Spider Man. Spider Man hasn't even been fully spoiled yet, 156 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:18.240 and we're already on to Avatar before we move into 157 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:21.039 the remastered set to begin next year, So the rest 158 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:27.559 of twenty twenty five will be entirely Universes Beyond. So 159 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:36.720 we're coming four sets three months Universes Beyond. That is all. Now. 160 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:40.080 It's literally the thing that people were complaining about on 161 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.320 the internet. Yes, so what we're going to do today 162 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:45.960 or we're going to address that. Is it as bad 163 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:51.360 as people say or is it just kind of well, 164 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:54.000 maybe you don't like the art, but things are fine. 165 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:55.759 So we're just gonna talk about that and give our 166 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:57.600 thoughts on those things, and we would love to hear 167 00:09:57.639 --> 00:09:59.759 what you think as well down in the comments. 168 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:02.960 Because yeah, for sure, especially some of the regular CEO 169 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:08.799 listeners that always comment. A lot of the YouTube comments 170 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.799 actually helped me inform the type of things that people 171 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:15.200 are passionate about, as does the discord full of the patrons, 172 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:22.159 as does comments on social media at large, Facebook and 173 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.039 Blue Sky and x and everywhere that I go and 174 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:31.360 post stuff or just randomly frequent and see the public, 175 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:34.759 not even CECO Nation at large. All of it informs stuff. 176 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.720 And I don't want to get into it quite yet, 177 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.759 but I've been playing a little bit less magic recently, 178 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:48.000 and I have some very not poignant or acute thoughts 179 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:55.799 about that. But my experience with what was Final Fantasy 180 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:59.679 right before Edge of Eternity, it was the Final Fantasy 181 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:05.559 Edge of Eternity, Spider Man Airbender lore when revisited or 182 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:08.559 whatever it's called. And then we're going back to to 183 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.159 strict saving. Yeah, and I have the release states to 184 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.840 all those on my phone, and I've got some thoughts 185 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.080 about that. But before we get to it, we got 186 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:19.559 to address the U. I guess the worst case scenario 187 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:21.600 in a lot of people's minds. 188 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:24.879 Is because it does it does stand, or it's good 189 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:29.559 for us to actually acknowledge like the apocalyptic Holy shit, 190 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:31.120 like because. 191 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:34.039 And or is it actually the apocalypse? Like is it 192 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:34.720 that bad? 193 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.120 The last half of twenty twenty five is magic? Is 194 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.879 not magic anymore? Two things and that things. That's when 195 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:44.320 you look at the IPS. 196 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:46.120 Producer Gary Laston, I say two things. 197 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.559 Yeah, that's a thing that that's a thing that's happening. 198 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:51.200 Is it as bad as all of that? Because that 199 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:53.320 sounds when I say it like holy fuck. 200 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:55.559 That well when you use when you use language like 201 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:55.879 oh my. 202 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:59.000 God, there's the apocalypse. Yeah, Well, you got to use apocalypse. 203 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:02.480 That's good, that's worked sides from and he's a fucking asshole. 204 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:07.679 The first thing is, we knew that in twenty five 205 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:10.080 and twenty six and probably twenty seven, they're probably going 206 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:13.399 to tell us that half of the products, half of 207 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:17.639 the major product releases are going to be universes beyond products. 208 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:19.240 We knew that we did. 209 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:22.279 This isn't a surprise when we see Spider Man and 210 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:24.879 Airbender and Final Fantasy and whatever the fuck else we 211 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:27.840 got this year, Secret Layers or otherwise, SpongeBob, what have you. 212 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:29.440 We knew that. 213 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.159 We knew that, and we knew even what they were 214 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:40.480 going to be. SpongeBob, Final Fantasy, Airbender was the other one, whatever, whatever, 215 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:42.600 spider Man, Spider Man. I think I said that, well, 216 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:43.960 X Men and Avengers and all. 217 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:46.960 Sure, there's going to be at least three more marvel 218 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:47.960 SATs coming home. 219 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:51.279 We knew that, Yes, so we can't be surprised. 220 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:54.600 That's the first thing. Yes. The second thing nobody is shocked. 221 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.600 Is if we saw two in a row Spider Man, Airbender, 222 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:02.039 bang bang, yep. If we knew that half of the 223 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:07.279 products were going to be universes beyond products, and we 224 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:12.480 didn't get a full fifty percent as of the final 225 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:16.200 two set releases. We have to expect that the last 226 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.799 two are going to be universes beyond to make the 227 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:21.279 fifty percent of the sets. 228 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:25.600 Quota sure, sure, so quotas, yeah, quotas. 229 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:27.639 Yeah, it is what it is. This is corporate freaking 230 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:30.080 politics and economics and all. 231 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.039 The shit and money. Yeah it's the bullshit. 232 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.840 Yeah, of course we knew that, so we can't be 233 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:38.919 surprised that we get Bang Bang Tunero, sure whatever. To 234 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:44.080 have them in such close proximity to each other from 235 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:49.759 a consumer standpoint is tough. And now I'll get into 236 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.320 me not playing as much Magic recently. 237 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:59.840 I think that with the proximity is the reason why 238 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:03.519 wanted to talk about Okay, because we had a Magic 239 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:08.399 set that I wasn't particularly into, like the space when 240 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:10.200 I like some of the art and the theme, but 241 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.240 like I was kind of overall kind of soft on 242 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:16.559 the set, and then they hit us with like a 243 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:21.000 set that's outside of Magic, which I don't particularly think 244 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:23.240 is a terrible thing. I think it's fine, which is 245 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:27.559 Spider Man. But then before Spider Man is even fully spoiled, 246 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:32.320 they're already hitting us with Airbender. It's like, holy holy shit, 247 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.519 Like I haven't even decided if I want to buy 248 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:37.720 any of this yet. I haven't even decided if I'm 249 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:40.960 going to commit some of my financial resources to this man, 250 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:44.120 and you're already hitting me with something else. 251 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:46.960 We're getting into it. This is it, and this is the. 252 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:50.600 Thing for me that's like, holy holy shit, like this 253 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.759 is if you I look back at it, the things 254 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:59.360 that I like the most hasbro owns all of it, 255 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:02.600 has bro owns my whole childhood, and I accept that. 256 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.000 The one thing they don't own wrestling. And I know this, 257 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:10.519 excuse me, and maybe maybe producer Gary's gonna get this 258 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:13.879 as well. But when you watch wrestling, now, go watch 259 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.799 a WWE show, and what are you going to see 260 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:20.360 that's different than all those other shows? The mats covered 261 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:26.960 in ads, yeah, the turnbuckles ads ads, the apron ads, 262 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:30.759 the tables do they have ads on them? Yes? Okay, 263 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.559 the announcer's table also have ads on them. And it's 264 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:39.480 kind of just that being there is kind of like, oh, 265 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.679 and it's finally broken the immersion for me, where now 266 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:47.720 it's hard to watch wrestling sometimes and Magic has hit 267 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:51.879 that point for me where when I look at the cards, 268 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:57.559 I'm trying to separate the IP from the mechanics because 269 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.000 I'm pumped that new cards are coming out because that's 270 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:01.879 I'm gonna get to do cool new ship with all 271 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:05.799 my decks. But I try, and I'm starting to try 272 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:08.519 and ignore the IPS. And we talked about it a 273 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:10.639 couple of months ago, where I want an IP where 274 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:14.360 I know nothing about it, and an Avatar. We got it, 275 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:16.679 and so we're gonna have like a special guest in 276 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.320 here to explain Avatar to us over the next month, 277 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:24.159 just to so we know what. Who's this fucking bald 278 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:25.960 kung fu guy with the arrow. 279 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:27.600 Shit from Dragon Balls? 280 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.000 It doesn't even make sense. How did he get so tough? 281 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.840 You got beat up by vegeta every day? How did 282 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:35.320 he get Android seventeen? 283 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:39.240 That is the question that's plagued mankind since the dawn 284 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:39.840 of eternity. 285 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:42.240 Right because he's a good guy? 286 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:44.120 Popcns stacked on top of each other. 287 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:46.360 It's because he's a good man, is what it is. 288 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:48.679 The guy's three foot nothing, so what. 289 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.720 Just because he says the guy just because he's unattractive, 290 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.000 says the unattractive guy, and bad at kung fu, says 291 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:57.120 the guy he's bad at kung fu. 292 00:16:57.799 --> 00:16:59.759 Doesn't mean you can't get a hottie. You can get 293 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:03.720 a bad right. All you got to do you just 294 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.160 gotta have something going for you. Man, and Krilling did 295 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:10.319 his name literally means chestnut. He had nothing going for him, 296 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:11.559 but he figured out a ways. 297 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:16.880 Just just not just the last not just not just not. 298 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:21.839 Call him old faceful because his name means not. Don't 299 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:26.759 google that his face means. His name means not. That's 300 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.359 what it means. Chestnut. That's what Krilling is. It's a chestnut. 301 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:31.519 That's what the name means. 302 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.039 Oh Man, so much to unpack from what you said. 303 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.799 I don't even know when you started. But this is 304 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:39.559 what I go back to. And I don't want to 305 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:42.279 be the broken record, the thing that I always say, 306 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:43.599 But I have to start with it. 307 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:47.400 You will. You start with the base and you build up. 308 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.359 That's how it works, say build an argument. 309 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:59.039 But this, but okay, you're right though my base is 310 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:01.880 heyuting the argument off at the at the. 311 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:07.519 Head he said, I'm right. He admitted it just now 312 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:09.960 he said it. I'm going to hold on to that forever, 313 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:12.960 Gary clip that so I can put it on a freaking. 314 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:15.920 Key his ringer, Yeah, continue, I want to do my 315 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:17.720 phone ring right. 316 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.920 Just about the first part, just about the first part. 317 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:27.880 My rebuttal is, don't buy it. And that's the end 318 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.680 of it. Like, that is the end of it. And 319 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:36.039 if you don't want to have Spider Man and Airbender 320 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:39.480 and jerk Off and Avatar and dragon ball Z and 321 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.759 Transformers in your magic, like, just don't play those cards. 322 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.799 Like it's that easy. Oh but those cards happened to me. 323 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.599 I just go play magic and I'm surrounded by other ips. 324 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:50.039 That's magic. 325 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:54.799 Like, if you don't like magic, don't fucking play it. 326 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:56.880 And I did the thing that we're not supposed to 327 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:59.519 do as creators of this game, like we're gonna get 328 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:02.440 in trouble. Yeah, don't fucking play it. 329 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.960 What are they gonna do? Not invite us to magic fast? Yeah, 330 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:07.240 not give us premieu cards like fucking fuck you. 331 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:11.920 Wat So I said, yeah, so here's the other thing, 332 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:15.960 and and yes, I'm I'm playing this same side of 333 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:19.640 the coin, sure, but I'm playing it from a side 334 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:24.960 where I'm I'm not choosing to not play it. I'm 335 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.759 just not playing it. Got a new job. My son's 336 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:30.160 hockey season started. It's the middle of the summer. Yeah, 337 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:32.200 we play hockey in the summer. It's Canada, get over it. 338 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:34.759 Yeah, there's lots of stuff. 339 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:37.960 Going on, and I've played less magic than I normally do, 340 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:45.599 And even as somebody who who covers magic and learns 341 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.240 about magic as as part of what I do and 342 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.519 what I enjoy reading cards, learning new mechanics, seeing the 343 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.279 new sets and characters. I still like doing that. I'm 344 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:58.799 still a magic nerd and still do that. The frequency 345 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:03.000 that sets have come out at, and not having the 346 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:10.680 casual kind of cultural gameplay exposure and just spending time 347 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:12.920 living in the world with my friends. I like that, 348 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.680 and talking about Airbender and talking about universes beyond and 349 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:21.319 new cards coming up. I have found it difficult to 350 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:25.039 keep up because, like you say, I don't even have 351 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:29.640 any of my Edgebraternity's cards yet that I ordered, I 352 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:33.039 don't even have them yet. And Spider Man is half previewed, 353 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.680 and Airbender is out, and I already know that that 354 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:41.880 Loreman's coming up. And I don't have to spend money 355 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:46.119 on any of those things. But I want to be current. 356 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:48.640 I want to know the speak, I want to know 357 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:52.079 the new products. I feel like I have to be involved, 358 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:55.799 and that's where we run into me not putting my 359 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:58.119 money where my mouth is. I want to be involved. 360 00:20:58.119 --> 00:20:59.640 I feel like I have to because I play this 361 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:03.279 game and any falling into the trap, the fomo trap, 362 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:05.000 and we're we you. 363 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.039 And I also have a you I want. I don't 364 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:10.079 want to say unique, but we have a a smaller 365 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:12.599 percentile that we live in where it's our kind of 366 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:16.200 our job to know all this stuff right, and it's 367 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:17.119 hard to keep up. 368 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:19.960 It's it's can we can we say that if it's 369 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:23.079 our job, if if if we can even say it's 370 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.799 our obligation to CCO Nation and our audience to talk 371 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:27.799 and be informed about this. 372 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.200 We want people to listen to our show to know 373 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:32.279 that we are paying attention to all this ship and 374 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:33.720 it's hard for us to keep up. 375 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:40.039 I'll say this, we acknowledge that that is our reality. 376 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:45.039 It shouldn't have to be everybody's reality. And with how 377 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:49.400 modern marketing works, modern social media, social media in general, 378 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:55.319 and the pace of product, people feel like that and 379 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:00.559 that isn't a thing that I think a lot of 380 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:04.880 people like. And I'll back this up by by saying 381 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:07.480 things like you remember a couple of years ago, four 382 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.559 or five years ago, five years ago, because this happened 383 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:11.359 right before. 384 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:13.559 COVID happened vaguely, but you're gonna have to really be. 385 00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:17.400 Ronvel Drain came out and Brawl Decks came out, and 386 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:20.599 Watsy openly admitted that arcane signet was a mistake. 387 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:21.759 Brawling we call it. 388 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:25.920 Yeah, brawl ring and Corvald and Chulane came out and 389 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:28.599 they were the Brawl Commanders and they ripped their commander 390 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:30.920 for a while, and they were CEDH decks before c 391 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:33.759 H was really a thing. This is commander history one 392 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:35.119 on one. We got to get Mac on the show. 393 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:38.400 Huh. Now maybe that could be a thing. Who knows. 394 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:40.240 You can say, God damn. 395 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:43.000 It, and that that was a whole thing that the 396 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:45.519 community as a whole was struggling with and wats He 397 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:47.960 heard that, and it took about a year where we 398 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:51.200 saw a bunch of really broken commanders. 399 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:52.640 You know what I mean, the whole thing. They just 400 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:56.319 they power crept him out. That's my favorite part. Yeah, 401 00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:57.519