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Speaker 1: Res outa.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. I am here with my standard co host,

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mister Jason Colvin. A very special guest with us today,

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our Patreon Jeanie Alexander. Hold on, hold on, Okay, I'm sorry.

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I was just trying to enjoy the silence.

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Speaker 1: Come on, guys, do I have to buy the laugh here?

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Come on?

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Speaker 2: All right, Genie, thank you so much for joining us

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today to talk about depeche Mode.

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Speaker 1: Genie, tell us what depeche Mode means to you?

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Speaker 3: Well, first, let me say thank you for having me today.

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This is kind of old hat for you all. It's

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very much bucket list for me. If I enjoyed the show,

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enjoy being a Patreon member. When Jason called me, I

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was super excited to be here. What depeche Mode means

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to me is great music, lots of dancing.

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Speaker 2: Jason gave me a little history about you, and I

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feel confident that we're going to get some magical mind

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blowing tidbits.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I seen your notes over there already.

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Speaker 3: I've studied up. I'm ready and prepared.

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Speaker 1: So Jeanie is actually one of my wife's very best

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friends in college, roommate, yes, yeah, and we went to

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high school together.

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Speaker 3: We went to high school together. And then it was

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after college at Jason and Katherine Kathy for their wedding,

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their marriage that Chris and I met my husband in

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twenty six years later. Here we are twenty seven years later.

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Speaker 1: Right, so you.

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Speaker 2: Met your future husband at Jason and Catherine's wedding.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we were both in the wedding party. He caught

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the boutineer, I caught the bouquet. We went out the

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next night, and we've been together ever since.

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Speaker 1: Wow, how about that. That's some magic, right?

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Speaker 2: How about that that bouquet boot neeer thing. Nobody really

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buys that, but turns out it can be true.

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Speaker 3: And the funny thing is is, I don't know if

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Kathy will remember this, but I can remember phone conversations

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when we were kids talking about, Oh, we're going to

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marry best friends, We're going to live right next door

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to each other. And we did marry best friends. We

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live a few miles apart, but here.

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Speaker 2: We are fantastic, pretty amazing. I'm excited to be a

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part of this happy family. Well, guys, we are here

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today to talk about depeche Mode and their album Violator. Now,

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this is an album long in their career, just like

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the album that we're comparing it to, which is Disintegration

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by the Cure. Now, last week we were joined by

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our other Patreon member, miss Amanda Janic. She was a

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Cure not just fan, but super fan, super freak fan

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if you will. And Jeanie when we asked you about

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these two albums, and I don't want you to give

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away what your final judgment is yet, but you were like,

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do I have.

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Speaker 1: To pick depeche Mode.

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be a surprise at the end

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of this whether you're going to fall on the depeche

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Mode side of things or on the Cure side of things.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Guys.

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Speaker 2: We're going to do a quick history on the band

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because there's a lot of great music to jump into here.

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The members of the band are Dave Gahan, Martin Gore,

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Andy Flescher, Vince Clark, and Alan Wilder. All Right, so

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nineteen seventy seven, Vince Clark and Andy Fletcher start a

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band together called No Romance in China.

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Speaker 1: I got something for you on that. Yeah, the early

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formation of the band No Romance in China. Fletcher and

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Clark were members of the Methodist youth group, the local

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Methodist Youth group, and I heard him talk about how

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they would go to Wednesday club together. Uh huh. And

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it was birthed out of the church.

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Speaker 2: Well, my first band was a church band too. It's

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a great place to start a band, it is.

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Speaker 1: That you got lots of rooms to practice in. Turns

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out they were fans of the Cure.

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Speaker 2: They were also fans of the Human League and of

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craftwork bands, which we've talked about in depth before and

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other episodes and in our Patreon episodes. By the way,

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thank you for being a Patreon Memborghini. Thank you Chris,

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who's sitting back in the back there with us.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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might not otherwise cover. That's right, So back to depeche

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Mode nineteen seventy eight, Martin Gore starts playing acoustic guitar

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for a duo. The duo is called Norman and the Worms.

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The other guy's name was Phil, so I'm not really

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sure who Norman is or who the Worms are. Nineteen eighty,

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Clark and Fletcher reform the band and they call it

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Composition of Sound. Gore soon joins them, and then Vince

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Clark sees Dave Gahan singing and says, we need this

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guy for our band.

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Speaker 1: Jason, do you know what song news I do? And

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I'm glad you pointed out me because that is the

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type of chemistry we have. Jason's over here raising his hand,

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Miss Kata, Yeah, yes, he sings Heroes by David Vowie,

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which we covered last fall when we did Strangers Stranger Things.

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Speaker 2: We actually covered the Peter Gabriel version, but yes, we

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talked about David Bowie quite expensive, we talked about that song.

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Speaker 3: I believe Dave Gahan was a huge vote man.

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Speaker 2: So as this four piece band still called Composition of Sound.

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They do their first live performance June fourteenth, nineteen eighty

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at Nicholas School in Basildon.

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Speaker 3: I believe they were very into O and d As

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well maneuvers in the Dark, and then Susie and the

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ban Cheese as well. They were really into them, and

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she I don't know if you know this, but I

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guess was in Susie in the ban Cheese. And at

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one point Robert Smith was touring with Susie and the

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ban Cheese and ended up that By.

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Speaker 1: The way, we talked about that last week.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I know that Genie move on.

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Speaker 1: That's okay.

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Speaker 2: Robert Smith not only had to come in and cover

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for the guitarist who left, but ultimately finished the tour

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and then would come back and do shows with them frequently.

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His quote was Juan Sha Banshee.

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Speaker 1: Always Banshee.

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Speaker 2: So at some point they said, you know what, a

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composition of sound seems kind of pretentious, and they're a

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little embarrassed about that, and so they decided to change

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their name. One of the considerations was musical Movements. I

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don't really know how that's less pretentious or better in

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any way, shape or form, but they decided, no, we're

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going to go with this fashion magazine title called Depeche Mode.

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Depeche is an old term that means breaking news or dispatch,

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and mode is fashion so fesch Mode was a magazine

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about the latest fashion news. Now, the pasch sure is

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also a verb. He put an e in a verb

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when he said this that means to hurry. So, taking

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taken out of context, this could be translated as hurried fashion,

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which means nothing.

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Speaker 1: Now, who gave you this information?

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Speaker 2: This is Gautier, my French next door neighbor who's a

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good friend and always pitching ideas and fun stuff. Yeah, okay,

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So by nineteen eighty they do their first recording, but

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it is for an album called Some Bizarre Album, which

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is a bunch of unsigned bands that are affiliated with

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a record label called Some Bizarre Records. In the meantime,

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they make a demo tape, but instead of sending it

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out to people, they walk in the record studio's door

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and say we want you to listen to this tape

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and they're like FIDU, like what and they're like, okay,

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leave the tape and we'll listen. They're like no, it's

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our only one. We'll wait, and they usually got sent

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out the door. They said they're goodbyes, but ultimately they

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get signed with a record label. Now, Dave said that

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they had had a bunch of offers from major labels

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offering them loads of money and clothes, allowances and all

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this fantastic stuff. But since they ultimately sign with a

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virtually unknown, brand new label called Mute Records, guy named

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Dan Miller sees them perform and he has they have

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this following that's with them, And what I really noticed

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was that the following didn't just stand.

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Speaker 1: There and watch the band.

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Speaker 2: They were dancing, and he says, if they can pull

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that off, who knows what they can do. So this

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leads to their first single called Dreaming of Me. So

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that song reached number fifty seven, and it leads to

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their second single, which is called New Life. That one

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hit number eleven and got them on Top.

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Speaker 1: Of the Pops. Now this is in the UK, right, This.

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Speaker 2: Is in the UK, right, So real quick, we can

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listen to New Life here.

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Speaker 1: So, Genie, you know this one.

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Speaker 3: I know this one. Well, this is one of the

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first ones I remember of them, and I really love it.

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There's a lot of announcement the beach and it sounds

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very much like craft work and all the electronics and

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what was going on after most punk emmit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they got to play Top of the Pops,

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but they literally took the train from Basildon all the

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way to London, carrying their synthesizers with them.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Vince Clark went out of his way to point out

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that his was the heaviest.

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Speaker 1: Then came just Can't.

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Speaker 2: Get Enough, their first top ten hit, and there's a

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video that comes out for this one. It is the

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only video that Vince Clark actually appears with the band in.

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So all three of those singles come out before their

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first album, but it is they're all included on that

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and it is called Speaking Spell.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a speaking spell? I had a speaker.

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Speaker 3: I had a speaking spell.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the little thing that you could type

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in the words and they would talk back to you

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a B and it took you about five minutes to

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type in dirty words. Album number two comes out in

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nineteen eight two. It is called a Broken Frame. Nineteen

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eighty three, we get construction time again. They start changing

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their sound a little bit. At this point, Vince has

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left the band and they have Alan Wilder come in

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and join the band. Now, Allan was a classically trained

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pianist and he really kind of became the musical composer

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behind the band once he joined them in eighty two,

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and Construction Time is really cool because they really do

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something special with a sampler. Sampling had just started at

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that point, and so they were going out and they

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were trying to find anything they could to make weird

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sounds with so that they could translate that into music.

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Some of the sounds that you hear on that on

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those early albums are like banging a bar into a

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construction post at a job site. And I think one

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of them even ins with it's like a bang hey,

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because the foreman is like you kids, get out of here.

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along a piece of metal just to get these weird

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sounds that they would then stick in a sequencer, give

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I said something about guitars earlier. These guys were not

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using guitars, they were not using drums. They were the,

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like you said, post punk kind of antithesis of that sound.

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We are not going to be a standard rock and

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roll band. We are doing something different.

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Speaker 1: Before you leave, Vince Clark, I think it's important to

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mention where he ends up because that was mind blowing

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to me.

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Speaker 3: Right. He didn't just leave the band and go away

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off into the distance. He actually originally started with Yazoo.

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Know if you know this, do you know what their

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Speaker 1: It's from a movie.

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Speaker 3: It's from a movie. Can you tell me the movie? Okay,

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Dames shocked that you cannot tell me the movie. It

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is from Tango and Cash scene that I would think

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that every teenage boy in America at the time would remember.

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Terry Hatches is Sylvester Stallone's sister, I believe, and she

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comes out dancing. Yeah, this song it's a little risque.

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Yes she's yes, yes, yes she is. And that's where

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Speaker 1: More stripper music.

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Speaker 3: So welcome glad.

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Speaker 2: So Vince Clark is with yes, does that song? And

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then he goes on he leaves.

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and they form Eraser. An Erasure is huge in its

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own right. One of the things that Vince Clark talked

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of going to from new wave to a dark wave.

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the light hearted stuff, and that is definitely where Erasure was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Respect and Chains of Love is what I know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we're to nineteen eighty four. In July of

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nineteen eighty four, just after the release of the single

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of the same name, they come out with their what

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Speaker 1: So People Are People that actually put them on the

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global stage, right, this is their first hit in America.

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It goes to number fourteen on the Hot one hundred.

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a I mean, this is their stamp. They're coming out

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party in nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 2: So same year, they follow that album up with Some

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Great Reward, which comes out in September of eighty four.

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nineteen eighty six they come out with Black Celebration, and

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then in nineteen eighty seven they hit us with a

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big one called The Music for the Masses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the song that I know for Music from the

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Mass is a strange level. Here's what I know about

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this time as well. So they've achieved some level of

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success in the US. They've got this following they have

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a concert at the Rose Bowl and they packed the

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place out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the band had gone from being a club band

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in nineteen eighty being a stadium band by nineteen eighty seven,

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so they've become a stadium band, but they have never

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been all of these albums at a top ten on

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the Billboard two hundred. They decide it's time to change

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things up for this album. They get together with a

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guy they call Flood, So they change up who they're

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working with, they change up how they do things. They

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had kind of gotten a formula on how they created

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their album, and they decided, you know, we've gotten to

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a rut. And so their main song guy is Martin Gore.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: He comes up with the stuff right, and he'll give

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them a demo and they'll they'll go through it and

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then they'll spend so long in the studio and they decide,

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you know what, we're going to change that.

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Speaker 1: Martin.

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Speaker 2: You still come up with songs but we want you

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to give it to its as basic as you can.

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what I understand, at the end that final concert in Pasadena,

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Alan Wilder he said, for him it was like the

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band had reached a destination, that they had arrived and

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now it was time to change course.

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Speaker 1: I've got something on Flood. His real name is Mark Ellis.

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Do you know how he got the name Flood? No?

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I do, Go ahead, fans, So here's what I heard.

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When he was a young engineer. They would, you know,

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the low man on the totable, Hey, go get his tea,

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go get us something to drink or whatever, and he

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would always overfill the cups. So every time you bring

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it back to it, it's spilling everywhere. And that's how

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they got his name Flood. You know you talked about

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how it was Martin Gore's job to write the songs.

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Flood would kind of work together to choose the direction

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of the song. And we're going to talk about a

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song here in a minute where Martin Gore brings it

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in at its basic state, intends to go a certain direction.

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They take it somewhere totally different, and you get one

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of the greatest songs of the nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the other thing they decide to do

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is to do an in store autograph session in one

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of LA's most prominent record stores called Warehouse Music, just

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before the album's about to come out. Well, what ends

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up happening is about twenty thousand fans show up and

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its scenes from early Elvis days, in early Beatles days.

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They're losing their mind. People are getting smashed against the glass,

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people are jumping on cars, women are fainting and screaming.

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were describing as riotous conditions. They were on every single

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news channel in the country that night, and the album

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came out the next That's huge, right. I think that

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means it's time to play on the tape player and

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let us hear song number one as we go track

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by track through Violator.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the first song on Violator is called World in

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My Eyes. Okay, this is a fantastic kickoff to the album.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the music, I thought, well, this is they're starting

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kind of slow with this, Dave comes in with those vocals.

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It's fan freakingtastic. I realized. I realized that. I said

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they don't love songs, but they don't do stripper songs either.

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Speaker 1: But my goodness, this is love and sex all over

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the place.

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Speaker 3: I think they do a lot of Actually I.

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Speaker 2: Meant like silly little love songs, deep love songs.

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Speaker 3: Right to me, I think it's I know it was

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maybe the fourth single, reason okay, but I think it's perfect.

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It's the first song on the album because it's still

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kind of reminiscent of who they were in Music for

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the Masses at the beginning. But you're right when Dave

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starts singing, you're like, oh, but it's a little different.

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I really enjoyed this one.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's almost like an invitation, let me take you

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on a trip, right, this is the introduction. Come on board,

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let me take you on a trip. We're gonna work

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our way through this album and it's gonna be great.

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That's sort of a womanly sigh on the on the

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beat sounds a lot like All she Wants Is by

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Duran Durant.

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Speaker 2: I see it, Jason, thank you, Andy Fletcher said, that

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when they heard the demo on this one, he didn't

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really I think it stood out at all. But then,

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like you said, once they got it in the studio

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and started working with it, it said, it all came

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together brilliantly, and at this point it is my favorite

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track that we have.

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Speaker 1: So Andy Fletcher's favorite pesh Mode song all time. Okay,

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So the interesting story I heard on this was Dave

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was supposed to record his vocals, but when he left,

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he left for a few days, took a couple of

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days off. When he had come back, they had slowed

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it down and he's like, guys, you ruined this song.

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But then it sort of worked on him and he

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came around to him.

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Speaker 3: Are you aware of a cover of this song?

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Speaker 1: Yes, because you texted it to us the other day. Well,

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tell us about it.

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Speaker 3: The Cure actually covered this song in nineteen ninety eight

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on the tribute album for Music for the Masses We Take,

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And I think it's a great cover.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic, Martin Gore says about this song. Love, sex,

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pleasure are positive things.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, I believe Anton Corbin did the

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majority of the videos he did for Violator and This

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particular video has Dave and a convertible driving up to

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an old drive in. From what I saw, he is

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trying to convince a young woman that's in the car

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with him to be more physical and let's go ahead

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and do this. And for me, the first thing I

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thought of is the scene in Greece, Yes, when Danny

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Zuko is trying to convince Sandy that hey, it's all good,

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it's gonna feel so great, let's go for it, and

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she is having nothing to do with it, and she

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slams that door and gets out of that sin wagon.

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Speaker 1: You're baking a phony and I never want to see.

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Speaker 3: Yeh stranded at the drive in. He's branded a full.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know, when you talk about the videos for

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this album, listen, the songs are great. Let's put them

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in separate category for just second. The videos in this

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album they're dumb. They don't represent the grandeur of these songs.

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Speaker 3: I would completely agree. I think Anton Corbyn is Dutch

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and has a very unique take on things, and they

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stick with him. They really like his style. But I

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don't believe you were the only person to point that out.

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In fact, I think some of their management or engineers

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someone somewhere said that same thing to them. It was like,

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they are not doing you any justice these videos.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about one here in a minute where

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Dave walks around in a preschool looking king outfit and

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he looks ridiculous. And we're talking first video pour some

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sugary type of stuff. I'm gonna go ahead and disagree

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with both of you guys.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I okay, Yeah, I think that we

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are talking about a group that has a different sound

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than every other artist that's coming out in nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just don't sound the same and I

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don't think their videos should look the same. Yeah, they

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don't have some great grand production value, but they have

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a very unique style to them. And just speaking about

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Anton Corbyn, he did the Nirvana video for Heart Shaped

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Box and he's done a couple of movies. One of

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them is called The American George Clooney. Have you guys

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seen that one?

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Speaker 1: And that movie suck.

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Speaker 2: But he also did this movie a couple of years

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before that in two thousand and seven called Control, and

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that is a movie about Ian Curtis, the lead singer

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for Joy Division Wow and the guy that they got

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to play Ian Curtis looks exactly like Ian Curtis.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Hey, before we move on to song number two,

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I just want to drop some stuff I learned on

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Dave Gahan. Okay, so he's born in May of nineteen

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sixty two. Found this interesting. At age nine, his father,

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Jack Gahan dies, and then at age ten, he comes

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home from school and there's a stranger in his living

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room with his mom, and his mom says, David, I'd

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like to introduce you to your father, and he says,

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what are you talking about? My father died. This impossible.

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He's like, well, this is your biological father. WHOA And

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he's like, world shook. Where have you been for nine years?

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What's going on here? This is ridiculous. This is not

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my dad, and it really rocks his world. And so

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that guy, his name is Lynn Colcott. He hangs around

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for a little while and then vanishes again for the

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rest of his life. And of course Dave gets into

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some trouble. He starts stealing cars and robbing, stealing stuff.

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He gets sent to like this juvenile detention area for

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six weeks. He joins depeche Mode at age eighteen. He'd

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already tried Heroin. So kind of a rough childhood for Dave,

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and as we'll see as we progress, it gets worse.

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Speaker 3: Did you know that Martin Gore did not know his

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real father either?

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Speaker 1: Oh? My gosh.

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Speaker 3: But so these two individuals, who I think are the

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00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:47,960
stronger personalities of the band, the two frontmen, basically have

475
00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:50,880
both this similar shared background with the men that they

476
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,200
believed where their biological fathers were in fact not, and

477
00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:57,640
I think that probably influences the writing and the singing

478
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and writing.

479
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Speaker 1: Okay, So the next song on the out song number two,

480
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:08,759
This song is called Sweetest Perfection, the Sweetest Perfection. It's

481
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:13,960
a calm mile, the slightest correction.

482
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 5: I couldn't find me.

483
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: Oh what do you think?

484
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:22,559
Speaker 3: Jing, It's not my favorite. I don't dislike it though.

485
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,759
I think it's very ominous. It speaks to addiction and obsession.

486
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:30,599
Martin Gore is singing it, not Dave. I typically really

487
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,640
like Martin Gore's vocals. This one I could do without.

488
00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:39,079
Speaker 2: Sweetest Perfection, Sweetest Infection, sweetest Injection.

489
00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:41,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a drug song, is right? Is that what

490
00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:44,279
it is? Yes? This is a drug? So are you sure? Yes? Okay?

491
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,839
I talked to Amanda janek Uh huh. She says she

492
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,519
hates this song. This is like the one that she

493
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,079
was like, I can't stand it. I like total skipper.

494
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: It's very like, yeah, it is a skipper. It's very

495
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,720
dirty and dark.

496
00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, I was legitimately surprised when this was number

497
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,920
two on the outlays. It doesn't seem like it doesn't

498
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,960
seem like in the first three songs, right, totally.

499
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you want the listener to go back and start.

500
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: Over, right, right, So maybe this was filler that they said, Hey,

501
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,400
this isn't our best song, so maybe we stick it

502
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,240
between the World in My eyes and our best song.

503
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,279
Speaker 1: Surely they'll hang around for a song number three, right, Yeah,

504
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:24,240
So let's go ahead and move on a song, don't

505
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,000
we just go ahead? Because that's what everybody's here for anyway, Okay,

506
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,160
And literally one of the best songs of the nineteen nineties.

507
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:55,880
This song is called personal in Jesus, I better stop

508
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,440
it or we'll just stay here and jam out to

509
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:57,960
the whole song.

510
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I had Depeesche was not a

511
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:04,440
huge band for me growing up, right. I like their songs,

512
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,599
but it wasn't I didn't go buy their albums. As

513
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,599
an adult, we have songs downloaded. I have one depeche

514
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,960
Mode song on my phone.

515
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: Is this song is. It's a frickin' banger. It is amazing.

516
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:19,359
I absolutely love it.

517
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,559
Speaker 2: So when Elvis Presley is in Germany in the military,

518
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,119
he meets a fourteen year old girl who he thinks

519
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,079
is beautiful. But she's fourteen, right, So he decides to

520
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,160
wait a couple of years to ask her to come

521
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,759
over and visit a nice In that time, he becomes

522
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,079
one of the biggest, most famous people in the world.

523
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,480
Already had was pretty famous, but I'm mind blowingly big

524
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:46,000
at that point. So sixteen year old Riscilla comes over

525
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:49,000
to his house and every other woman who's there has

526
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:51,599
just given her the evil eye. And as soon as

527
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,319
Elvis Caesar two years later, by the way, as soon

528
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,920
as he Caesar, he comes runs up, pulls her up

529
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,319
in his arms, says he's been waiting so long to

530
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:02,400
see her, kiss her, and within a very short amount

531
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,920
of time they are married.

532
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. And why is that story important?

533
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,279
Speaker 2: Well, because in nineteen eighty five, Priscilla writes a book.

534
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,960
It's called Elvis and Me, and she talks about which

535
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,000
you would expect for a girl of sixteen getting married.

536
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,119
How he was her everything. He was like her own

537
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:40,079
little god. He was her personal Jesus. So Martin Gore

538
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,720
reads these words and he's like, this does not seem

539
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:45,559
like a healthy relationship, but it sounds like a great

540
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:46,640
basis for a song.

541
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: So my grandmother was a huge fan of Elvis and

542
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:55,319
had this book, and somehow, at fourteen or fifteen years old,

543
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,799
it ended up in my possession and I read the book. Yeah,

544
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:02,440
and I totally agree with Martin Gore, that is one

545
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:06,640
dysfunctional relationship. And I am, as a mom myself now

546
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,200
shocked that her parents ever thought, sure, go to the US,

547
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,759
we'll stay back here in the UK and go ahead

548
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:17,599
and live with him, and he became her father figure,

549
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:20,839
her husband, and like you said, the personal Jesus.

550
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't figure out, for the life of me

551
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,759
why this is not a number one smash.

552
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: What position did this reach in the charts?

553
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: Number twenty eight on the hot one hundred. We don't

554
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680
have time for twenty seven. No, no, okay, let me

555
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:37,279
just drop okay. So Escapade by Janet Jackson hits number

556
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,759
one March third of nineteen ninety good song back than this,

557
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,839
not better than this, not even close. Okay, this song

558
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,599
only reaches number twenty eight. Okay, stop me when I

559
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,119
hit one that you know or like? Okay, these are

560
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,839
songs ranked higher than Personal Jesus on the Countdown. Here

561
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,279
we Are by Gloria Estefan, we Can't Go Wrong by

562
00:29:56,279 --> 00:30:00,680
the Cover Girls, No More Lies by Michelle No, Too

563
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:04,039
Late to Say Goodbye by Richard Mars, I've Heard of It,

564
00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:09,240
No Myth by Michael Penn. I'll Be Your Everything by

565
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,960
Tommy Page. What the heck? These songs all ranked higher

566
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,759
on the Hot one. Are you freaking kidding me? Bizarro world?

567
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,279
It is? It's insane, got the chart upside down.

568
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:22,799
Speaker 3: It is considering that this was released as a single

569
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,880
six months prior to the album release, and really the

570
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,000
main reason why there was a riot in LA because

571
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,319
that's the music they had heard, and that's why people

572
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:35,519
were excited. So it's mind boggling to me that that's

573
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:36,920
as high as it went.

574
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:40,079
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone ranked this number three sixty eight of their

575
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,279
five hundred Greatest Songs of All Time.

576
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,079
Speaker 3: I disagree, too low higher, too low? Yes, too low,

577
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:47,640
too low.

578
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,519
Speaker 1: So this was reached August twenty ninth, nineteen eighty nine.

579
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:54,279
I still can't quite figure out why it's six months

580
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:55,160
ahead of the album.

581
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Speaker 3: So I had read that Warner Brothers that after Music

582
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:01,960
for the Masses, those sales were really high for Depeche

583
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,839
Mode and they started to go stagnant, they were starting

584
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:08,079
to drop off, and so they wanted like this infusion

585
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:12,000
of music and this was it personal Jesus, So they

586
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:14,319
brought that out six months in advance. They did, like

587
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:18,000
what you were talking about earlier, with the personal ads,

588
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:21,319
just to drum up excitement for the album, and it

589
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,359
obviously worked. I am shocked, shocked, shocked that it didn't

590
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:28,440
go higher on the charts because this for me as

591
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,359
a teenager, Jason, you and I grew up in the

592
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,680
same town, Oklahoma. We did not a lot to do.

593
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:38,119
It was basically either you were trying to find a

594
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:40,319
little dance club to go to or you were driving

595
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:42,599
around with half the high school on a caravan trying

596
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,000
to find an open field to do something. Nothing nefarious,

597
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:53,000
of course, yes, yes, just to chat. But I have

598
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:57,200
a very distinct memory before Violator came out, listening to

599
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:02,240
this song and we are driving around in Who's Wee Sweet?

600
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,000
Your wife, your wonderful, lovely, beautiful wife, and our friend

601
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:07,559
Mary Beth.

602
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

603
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: And we're in mary best car and we're in a caravan.

604
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,759
We're driving through a park with like thirty other cars

605
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:18,599
with kids from my high school, and your wife and

606
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,960
I are hanging up the sun roof dancing to Personal Jesus.

607
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,079
I'm seventeen years old. I'm thinking life is good and

608
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:27,039
I'm thinking I.

609
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Am super cool. Yes, it's all downhill. That is fantastic.

610
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,759
I Kathy would love that story. Okay, let's talk about

611
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:41,279
the personal ads real quick. We talked about it briefly,

612
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:45,400
but in the personal ads in the newspaper for this

613
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,920
song prior to this album being released, there's an ad

614
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000
I sent it to you, sent this to you, guys.

615
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,519
It says your own personal Jesus, and it just a

616
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,920
phone number and when you would call that number, it

617
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,279
would play the song. How cool is that? Yeah?

618
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: Very cool. But I believe people got upset by that

619
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:03,039
so they had to stop doing it. Insane.

620
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to rescue myself. I have life problems, and

621
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,640
you're playing rock.

622
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,039
Speaker 3: Music to me to go back to your show about

623
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:13,839
the cure. Do you know where this ranks with Robert

624
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:16,920
Smith of The Cure. It is one of his favorite

625
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,319
top thirty songs of the eighties. So Robert Smith has

626
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:22,720
a healthy appreciation for Depeche Mode.

627
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,519
Speaker 1: So here's the thing I found interesting. I said this

628
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:26,880
to you guys this week. People realized, Okay, this is

629
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,519
a great song. It was covered by Marilyn Manson.

630
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 5: Jesus, some Pass someone.

631
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: Jazz, Johnny Cash.

632
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 6: Your own personal Jesus.

633
00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: Sammy Hagar, Jesus, someone def Leopard to Jesus. By the way,

634
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,559
if you listen to the Kate Bush song The Dreaming,

635
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,039
I said this to you guys. Did you listen to it?

636
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: Yes? I did, and I think you're spot on.

637
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: The breathing at that point, totally stolen from that song

638
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:38,320
and dropped into personal Jesus. Let's talk video.

639
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,119
Speaker 3: So this video again by Anton Corbin, is kind of strange.

640
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,519
When the video they end up at a Spanish brothel. Yes,

641
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:59,519
they do, totally wholesome and it's a little weird, true

642
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:03,760
anti Corbyn and we've got the mechanical horse and some

643
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,000
different things going on. And this is one of those

644
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:11,960
videos that MTV actually edited because some of the parts

645
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,760
of the video were a little too suggestive.

646
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little weird. So I saw

647
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,119
the original video the breathing part and then the horses,

648
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,960
but it was like, yeah, they kind of yeah, yeah,

649
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:33,000
horses butt horses, but was too suggestive for MTV. Yeah what, Yeah,

650
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,880
it's it's just weird. It just looks it's very odd.

651
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,440
So if you're keeping track at home, Genie has talked

652
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,440
about strippers and brothels and horses, bucks and horses.

653
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: And after hours clubs.

654
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,079
Speaker 1: That's right. I do think it's interesting. So the big

655
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,320
banging part of this chorus when you're in concert, this

656
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,559
is what everybody screams. Is the reach out touch faith

657
00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:00,239
part that was stolen from the old telephone ads or

658
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:07,960
reach out and touch someone.

659
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:09,039
Speaker 3: Oh I did not know that.

660
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:12,199
Speaker 2: There you go early lines in the song feeling Unknown,

661
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,840
and you're all alone, flesh and bone by the telephone,

662
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,960
lift up the receiver.

663
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,679
Speaker 1: I'll make you a belief. It's genius.

664
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,559
Speaker 2: I mean it's like you're calling out to somebody who's

665
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:23,559
reading the personal ads.

666
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think that his vocals get a little

667
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:28,760
buried in the verses. I wish they were a little

668
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,760
more prominent because the lyrics are so cool.

669
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,599
Speaker 2: There's a little breakdown on the song where it does

670
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:37,639
this cool wishing sound or listen to it here.

671
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:46,159
Speaker 3: That absolutely makes the song for me.

672
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: That is exactly how I felt. You're listening, you're like,

673
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,920
this is pretty groovy, and then it hits that part

674
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,920
and you're like, oh, yeah, they took it up a level.

675
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,920
This is so good. By the way, Johnny Cash's comment

676
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:58,800
on this song, this is quote, probably the most evangelical

677
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:06,760
gospel song I have ever recorded. Wow. I don't know

678
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,320
if the writer meant that, but it is what it is. Wow. Okay,

679
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,920
are we done? With Personal Jesus? Truly one of the

680
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,079
great songs of the nineteen nineties. The next song on

681
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:28,000
the album is called Halo Okay, this one works for

682
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:29,000
me too well.

683
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: Speaking of songs that are confusing about the meaning and

684
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,480
whether he was Sunday Club in it or not. With

685
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:38,199
Personal Jesus, Martin Gore says, I'm almost obsessed with the

686
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,159
idea of good and evil. I suppose my songs do

687
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:44,960
seem to advocate immorality, but if you listen, there's always

688
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,360
a sense of guilt. On Halo, I'm saying, let's give

689
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,920
into this, but there's also a feeling of wrongfulness.

690
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: I feel discom I don't understand why this song wasn't

691
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,559
a single. I really like this song. I think it's

692
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:11,599
one of the stronger ones.

693
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: It's really good.

694
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: It is. And the line you wear guilt like shackles

695
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,760
on your feet like a verse halo, I mean to

696
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,079
me that is poetic in the way that he understands

697
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:25,480
what guilt is. And I agree. There's the back and

698
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:28,360
forth between this is bad, this is gonna cause so

699
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,800
many problems for us that I'm going to push through

700
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,760
the guilt because it's completely worth it.

701
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: So here's the interesting thing. We've come across this sometimes

702
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,880
where they don't release it as a single, but they

703
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,239
did make a video for this one.

704
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: I watched the video. I'm it's all you.

705
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:46,039
Speaker 1: It stinks.

706
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:49,599
Speaker 3: It's odd. Did you pick up on the cameo in

707
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:51,960
the video? No? Who oh my gosh?

708
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: Really yes? Is it the pretty girl in clown makeup?

709
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: No? Okay, it's one of the dancers, one of the

710
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:05,159
female dancers. It is a young Jenna Elfman Woa. She

711
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:10,320
trained as a classical dancer before she went into film.

712
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,880
She is in the video.

713
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: Okay, now that is really cool. There's even that is awesome.

714
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: There's an interview out there where she talks about it.

715
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:19,599
It was her first thing that she had done on film,

716
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,360
was that video.

717
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: Well, outside of the appearance of Jenna Elfman. You well,

718
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:26,039
I mean, it's like it's weird.

719
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:28,599
Speaker 3: There's a donkey, there's strong men.

720
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,199
Speaker 1: It's like a circus. It looks like a traveling says

721
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:38,960
say with Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney. Okay, Martin, no,

722
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,639
but Martin gar is juggling in clown makeup with a

723
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,679
with another girl, a pretty girl wearing clown makeup, and

724
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,000
they're juggling.

725
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 3: It's what Well, they're juggling because she's actually the strong

726
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,760
man's girlfriend, Dave Gahan, and so she ends up telling

727
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,039
him no, I'm gonna go with the clown and and

728
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,840
then they end up sleeping underneath it like the circus

729
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,480
car or something. I don't know. It's it's very very strange.

730
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:08,400
I do have another bit of information that's cool about

731
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:08,840
this song.

732
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: Okay, well you got and it goes back.

733
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 3: To the musical side of things they do. You know,

734
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,719
depeche Mode is known for sampling. They sampled a led

735
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,920
Zeppelin song. It's actually they sampled a rap song that

736
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:22,800
sampled a Led Zeppelin song when the levee breaks.

737
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, you might as well go

738
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,599
with the best, right, I dig it.

739
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: I like it, just not the video.

740
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:36,079
Speaker 1: The video sucks. Bad effort, that's right, sucks, I said. Okay,

741
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,320
next song on the album. This song is called Waiting

742
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,519
for the Night. I'm waiting for the Night.

743
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,079
Speaker 6: I know that it will say.

744
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:53,119
Speaker 5: With everything stuck.

745
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: Stuck.

746
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 2: Like you said, they usually it's either one singing or

747
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,840
the one, or maybe they're singing back and forth, but

748
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,719
they harmonize on this one, and it's really it's really

749
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,480
well done.

750
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: I like this song too.

751
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: This is much more similar to the soundscapes that we

752
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,119
get off of Disintegration.

753
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's romantic, it's lovely, it's soft, it's beautiful.

754
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,320
I'm gonna go this well again. It's like if you're

755
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,639
watching Miami Vice and Crockett is being seduced. I had

756
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,559
the same thought. Jason's going to say this for this song,

757
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Crockett is being seduced by the daughter of a Columbian

758
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,800
drug lord and he's scared to give in. But it's

759
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,480
very seductive and emotional and romantic.

760
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: She's about to be killed.

761
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: Of course she is.

762
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:43,679
Speaker 3: This reminds me of like something that you would have

763
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,880
on a sleep app. I mean it is, so that's right.

764
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool man.

765
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:50,559
Speaker 3: The video is the same way. It's just very like

766
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:51,440
black and white.

767
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: It's six minutes of sleep app.

768
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: It is. I agree, it works and this if this one.

769
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,079
They go back to mainly electronics as far as instruments go.

770
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:05,159
Speaker 2: Okay, Jason, before we keep going, there is a podcast

771
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:08,400
that you and I just discovered which is fan freakantastic

772
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,920
that I wanted to tell everybody about.

773
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's called Famous and Gravy. Yeah.

774
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:15,039
Speaker 2: A couple of guys very much like ourselves, same generation.

775
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,679
They have that kind of same talking back and forth chemistry.

776
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,039
Michael Osborne and am At Kapor. They have this really

777
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:25,800
awesome format and it just keeps you engaged in the

778
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,360
podcast the whole freaking time.

779
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they talk about a person who is dead

780
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,519
and whether or not you would want to have their life.

781
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,639
It's kind of a cool thing. They're inspirational, they're very positive,

782
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,119
thought provoking. I enjoy this.

783
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: They break it up into like ten or eleven different categories.

784
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,800
First one is the obituary of this person, right, and

785
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,880
then the last one is the James Vanderbeet category of.

786
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: I Don't Want Your Life and it's fantastic.

787
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: And they've got a Malkovich category in there, which is

788
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,119
my absolute favorite. But you guys should totally go check

789
00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:00,559
these guys out. They cover athletes, they cover rock stars,

790
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,440
just I mean anybody and everybody.

791
00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:05,039
Speaker 1: I mean, they've covered Eddie Money, Luke Perry, I even

792
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:08,280
forgot he died, Brad Willard, Gene Wilder, Bill Paxton, Hank

793
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,360
Aaron Alan Rickman.

794
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: You told me you found a Bill Paxton nugget in

795
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,480
one of their podcasts from.

796
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: Them, according to their podcast, I learned this stuff, Yeah,

797
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:18,800
Bill Paxton. Do you know the song fish Heads fish

798
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,039
Head fish headish Yeah. Bill Paxton was the director of

799
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:27,079
that music video. Shut up, yes, dude. I love these guys.

800
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:28,159
They are fantastic guys.

801
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: If you have not checked out the Famous and Gravy podcast,

802
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:32,880
definitely go check that out.

803
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: Definitely. All right, hit stop on your tape player, kick

804
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,559
it out, flip it over for side two, and we

805
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:43,159
are going to kick it off with another one of

806
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,559
the pillars of the nineteen nineties. This song is called

807
00:43:47,199 --> 00:44:13,119
Enjoy the Silence Okay, once again, I've got to stop it,

808
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,840
or we'll just sit here and listen to the whole thing.

809
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,199
Absolutely fantastic.

810
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,519
Speaker 2: Started off as a ballad, started off as a slow,

811
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:26,360
sweet ballad, and came back again. Martin gore just a

812
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,599
guitar and his voice on the demo and they put

813
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:51,400
it all together very and basically went out to the

814
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,639
club one night and a couple of them said, you

815
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:56,920
know this is you just feel like this isn't going

816
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,760
where we wanted to go. And Flood was the guy

817
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,519
who had been telling them. He'd been telling them the

818
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:04,559
whole time. You have these rules, break the rules. If

819
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:06,599
you have the rules that you don't do guitars, break

820
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:08,000
that rule. Let's put some guitars in here.

821
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:08,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

822
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: And with this one, when they said we can't get

823
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:12,760
to that spot that we want to be with this song,

824
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:16,440
he said, okay, we're gonna delete everything that we've put

825
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,199
in it so far and we're gonna start over again.

826
00:45:18,199 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: They started over.

827
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: They put this kind of techno dancy rhythm to it,

828
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:24,920
and all of a sudden, the song took off.

829
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're right. When he brought it, it was

830
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,760
Organs and Martin singing and it was supposed to be

831
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,400
a slow ballad, Alan Wilder and Flood said no, let's

832
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,440
put a beat to it. Martin Gore said that he

833
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,519
was initially very skeptical. He actually sulked for two days,

834
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,559
he said, but he could see the crossover potential and

835
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:48,800
how it was really coming together. This song is unbelievable.

836
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,559
I don't know, I'm gonna keep gushing.

837
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,599
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I have a vivid memory from this

838
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:58,519
time period, Okay, riding in my buddy's truck. Grew up

839
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:03,000
in uh Town in Arkansas, and We're listening to the

840
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:05,159
radio and this song comes up and I'm like, oh yeah,

841
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,400
And I turned the song up, and my buddy, who's

842
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,039
driving the truck truck, he's like, you like this gay song?

843
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,440
And I'm like what, And he's like, dude, all I

844
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:19,159
ever needed was him in my arms. I'm like, it's

845
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:21,719
here in my arms, you ignorant hick.

846
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: Once they had completed the album, it was mixed by

847
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,559
our man, Francois Covorkian Daniel Miller. You know, he's their manager.

848
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:32,719
He's like, you know, guys, the song, the only song

849
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,599
on the album that doesn't work for me is enjoy

850
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,800
the silence. He's like, that song really needs to be

851
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,599
more than it is. He's like, how would you feel

852
00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:44,119
if I took it and mixed it with my buddy

853
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:46,840
Phil Legg? Okay, Phil Legg was a guy who would

854
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,800
work with Daniel Miller, and he said they were so

855
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,800
burned out. They were like, whatever, dude, just whatever, just

856
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,440
take it. So Daniel Miller takes it. This is the

857
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,559
only song on the album that is mixed by Daniel

858
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:59,639
Miller and Phil Legg, not Francois Kavorkian. When they brought

859
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,440
it back, they were like, that's it, the one right there.

860
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: So are you going to tell us where it ended

861
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,199
up on the charts?

862
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Of course? So this song hit number eight July fourteenth

863
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,199
of nineteen ninety. Okay, so how the crap did this

864
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,280
not hit number one in the US? There are seven

865
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:39,559
quote unquote better songs than this, No, no.

866
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 3: Chance, right, I do not agree at all?

867
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: Okay, So here you go, number seven on the Hot

868
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,880
one hundred. This is from July fourteenth, nineteen ninety. Rub

869
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,119
You the Right Way by Johnny Gilly. You have number six.

870
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,760
It must have been loved by Rockshead.

871
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,559
Speaker 3: Pretty woman. That's all that is.

872
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: That's a big song in that summer.

873
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 3: But that's what that is.

874
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Then you've got Cradle of Love by Billy Idol.

875
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,840
That's that's a great So that's a great that's a

876
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,159
great song. Number four is I'll Be Your Shelter by

877
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,800
Taylor Dane. Taylor Dane was still making music in the nineties. Yeah,

878
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,360
no chance, enjoy this as I don't think that's right, okay.

879
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,639
Number three is hold On by in Vogue.

880
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: Which your wife, Jason. I'm sure you know. This is

881
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,840
a huge fan of in Vogue, and I remember listening

882
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,000
to this one quite a bit too.

883
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: She carried the kasingle around in her person. Yes, I know,

884
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,519
I know it was she carried the KA single. Remember

885
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:32,599
the single, Yeah, the k single Buckle up. This is

886
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,320
where it gets rough right here. Number two She Ain't

887
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,960
Worth It by Glenn Madernos and Bobby Brown.

888
00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:40,679
Speaker 3: I don't even know what the song is. I actually

889
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:43,079
remember who he is because he had some weird video

890
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,679
where he was walking around on a beach. I obviously

891
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:48,199
know who Bobby Brown is, but I could not tell

892
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,119
you what that song is.

893
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 2: She Ain't worth It, she ain't worth I can legitimately

894
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,719
say I have no idea what that song is. And

895
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,639
it was number two.

896
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 1: Number two, Oh my gosh. By the way, Glenn Madernos

897
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,519
is now a principle in Hawaii. Oh seriously, Oh my gosh,

898
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:05,239
it's that guy.

899
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, you remember him, yes, because he had he did.

900
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:14,119
Speaker 1: Nothing's gonna change my love for you? Yeah. Wow. Okay.

901
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,760
And then number one, step by Step by the New

902
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,599
Kids on the Block.

903
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:21,199
Speaker 3: I actually have in my notes.

904
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,199
Speaker 1: Gag. There's no way those those songs. I mean, there's

905
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:28,280
some good songs in that list, but for the most part,

906
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,119
none of them are better than this one. No, okay.

907
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,559
Speaker 3: And that right there is why we ended up with

908
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,440
songs like alternative rock and grunge because of songs by Step.

909
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: Good point, good point. Okay. So we're ready to talk

910
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,960
about the video in the song. There it is. Let's

911
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,800
talk about it.

912
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:49,639
Speaker 2: I I number one, Yes, the King costume does look

913
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:51,920
a bit ridiculous, but it is supposed to look a

914
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,880
bit ridiculous. I think that's the point. But number two

915
00:49:56,159 --> 00:50:00,760
I just gotta laugh because I think it was. Fletcher says,

916
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:03,280
this is actually a pretty good video for the band.

917
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,199
We had to spend like an hour in the studio

918
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,800
and it was really no problem.

919
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,519
Speaker 3: Is he in it? Are they in it?

920
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like I don't.

921
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:11,559
Speaker 2: I think they just did the music, that's all they

922
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:15,480
had to do. And then Dave is walking around for

923
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:21,119
five days in random, isolated, freezing stupid.

924
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:25,159
Speaker 3: It's dumb with his chair looking for a place of

925
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,679
peace and quiet. It is based on the little prints

926
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,199
and that chair. He's king of the world, but he's

927
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:32,920
king of nothing.

928
00:50:33,159 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: He comes to him and he's like, okay, I'm thinking

929
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:42,880
crown and a deck chair, and they're like okay, and

930
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,800
he's like, that's it. Crown, deck chair, King deep and

931
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,440
a deck chair.

932
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:52,639
Speaker 1: So wrong. This is a grand song that needs to

933
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:57,079
be like live concert type of stuff. We need to

934
00:50:57,079 --> 00:51:00,320
pour some sugar on me treatment on this one, Like,

935
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,360
I hate it. It's so dumb. Tell me who covered

936
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,599
this song, Geene.

937
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. So I had to dig deep for

938
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:11,480
this one, but it does. It's a good song. I

939
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:14,519
was a little surprised at first that I would like it.

940
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:21,000
It is covered by Carla Brune, the model and wife

941
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:24,199
of former French president. It's cozy and.

942
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 6: Wont hold.

943
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: It in my own.

944
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 6: Who's a very unnecessary They can only do harm yes,

945
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,199
and it's it's actually like it.

946
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,559
Speaker 1: It's minimalized, right, it's minimalized.

947
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 3: It's breathy.

948
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:55,599
Speaker 1: She kind of I know Carla Burdy like I've got Oh.

949
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 3: She was huge.

950
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: I dig it.

951
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,639
Speaker 3: I think it's really good and I do. She sounds

952
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:02,920
a pot like that's very popular today.

953
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,519
Speaker 1: Wow, it's really good. Okay, onto the next song. This

954
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:09,960
song is called Policy of Truth.

955
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:41,159
Speaker 2: Okay, So if you had if you said, pick one

956
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,760
song that defines the sound of depeche Mode, and you

957
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,760
took Personal Jesus off of the list, this would.

958
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: Be the song that I picked. Okay.

959
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:52,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the beginning sounds of this. This goes

960
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:56,519
back to their synth sampling days, and I totally dig it.

961
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:59,159
Speaker 1: They've done great things. Yeah. This is the third single.

962
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,920
This reach number fifteen on the Hot one hundred. This

963
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,280
should have been a number one hit as well. This

964
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:07,760
is the third of three titans on this album. I

965
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:22,840
absolutely love it. I think it's a killer song, fantastic.

966
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,760
There's a really cool guitar riff hook in this song.

967
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,199
I heard somebody describe it as a six note switchblade.

968
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: I read that it is a single note from a

969
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:36,880
guitar that has been sampled and then looped on a keyboard.

970
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,679
Speaker 2: We've talked about how you know, Wednesday clubs personal Jesus.

971
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: Imagine the lyrics of this song.

972
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:46,519
Speaker 2: Imagine them in the context of Ponscious Pilot talking to

973
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:50,239
Jesus just before he's crucified. He's talking to him about

974
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,639
paying the price for not listening to advice and deciding

975
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:54,559
in your.

976
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,079
Speaker 1: Youth on the policy of truth.

977
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: Whenever Jesus spoke to Ponscious Pilot from the truth the

978
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,480
way he's about to be punished.

979
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean you talk about Martin Gore. I

980
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,559
mean he has intertwined religion and sex and politics and

981
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:11,840
all these things, so I wouldn't sit it passed him

982
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,760
on this type of thing. I sent you a clip

983
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,920
from the movie Diamonds Are Forever, Yes, And I think

984
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,079
that little stinger in for the Bad Guys and Diamonds

985
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,000
Are Forever sounds similar to this song.

986
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:24,639
Speaker 3: Mister Kidd and mister is this the one with the

987
00:54:24,639 --> 00:54:25,800
scorpion in the sand?

988
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Easter Wint and mister Kiddy, Yes, Okay, it's similar.

989
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: Its that was the first James Bond movie I ever saw.

990
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,760
I think you're a blues guy. Does the name Eric

991
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:46,519
Tesmer sound familiar to you. Apparently he's a blues guitarist

992
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:50,119
out of like the Austin area. He got together and

993
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:55,280
did a collaboration with Nancy Wilson of Art and it

994
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,239
is all guitar. The cover.

995
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: Oh we got to hear that. It's just I'm joy.

996
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,119
Speaker 7: They're not.

997
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: Deciding you. I like it. It's a great song. Okay.

998
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:38,440
Moving on to the song called Blue Dress. Okay, skipper,

999
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:40,360
it's not my favorite.

1000
00:55:40,639 --> 00:55:43,159
Speaker 2: It's not a skipper for me. This is one I

1001
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:45,639
I actually enjoy it, but it's not it doesn't fit.

1002
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:47,079
Speaker 1: In with the rest of the songs on the album.

1003
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: This is kind of the jazz club romantic slow song,

1004
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,920
but they leave their they leave their kind of squelchy

1005
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,840
techno beat behind it, which I don't think does it justice.

1006
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,760
I think if they had lift that out and made

1007
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,400
it a little more like kissing a fool, yeah.

1008
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:07,559
Speaker 1: Then a little shrill at the front of the.

1009
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:11,079
Speaker 2: Song, yeah, I think they could have done it differently

1010
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:12,199
and it would have been a better song.

1011
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,119
Speaker 1: But I still don't put it as a skipper.

1012
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 3: Martin Gore described this song in Pervy Pervyravy, and I

1013
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,960
would agree. I mean, if you look at the lyrics

1014
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,440
when you learn, you'll know what makes the world turn.

1015
00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:30,119
He's basically saying, when I teach you what I want

1016
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:33,920
you to do. Yeah, it's very pervy. It's basically based

1017
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,599
on watching a young girl undress and then Helen or

1018
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:38,639
what to do, put on a.

1019
00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:45,199
Speaker 1: Blue dress, take it off, take off. The lyrics I'm

1020
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,039
looking at keep saying put it on, put it on?

1021
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,880
Is that not the lyrics?

1022
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,599
Speaker 3: Probably is, But what I read was that it's about

1023
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,199
watching a girl undress.

1024
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,079
Speaker 1: And once again Genmy talking about stripper stuff.

1025
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,679
Speaker 3: He's kind of tied it into the comment theme here.

1026
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: You're fitting right in here, Shirley, can't be serious guests.

1027
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,039
Speaker 2: Okay, So, Genie, you were telling us earlier about Bono

1028
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,320
and Adam from you two sneaking into a Violator concert.

1029
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think they were at Madison Square Garden

1030
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:19,119
and it was towards the end of the Violator tour

1031
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:23,599
and Flood is sitting backstage in a room just kind

1032
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:28,800
of chilling out, and Anton Corbin, the videographer, comes in

1033
00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:32,000
with two of these scruffy looking guys and hoodies, and

1034
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:35,199
Flood's like, great, who are these people? Well, it turns

1035
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:38,039
out to be a no Bono, and I think Adam

1036
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:41,159
Clayton and Flood had previously worked with them some on

1037
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,320
You said the Joshua Tree, and they have heard Violator.

1038
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,239
They are impressed You two. Is always a colossal fan

1039
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,719
of you two. They are always changing their sound and

1040
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,639
moving forward. I'm a big fan of moving forward, not back.

1041
00:57:56,119 --> 00:57:58,039
They basically are like, we love what you've done here,

1042
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,079
we want you to come produce our next album. And

1043
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:04,360
that next album was Octune Baby Fantastic.

1044
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awesome. Wow, Okay. Last song on the album,

1045
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:24,440
This song is called clean Okay.

1046
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,239
Speaker 2: So listening to the beginning of this song, I'm wondering

1047
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,320
if they were working with the same guys who are

1048
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,840
working with Enigma the Gregorian chant thing that they did

1049
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,039
back in nineteen ninety as well. Yeah it was popular. Yeah,

1050
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:38,800
it's got that feel for it for sure. This is

1051
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:42,920
probably the skipper on the album for me. It's cool

1052
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:45,440
if you're chilling, I guess a little bit, but.

1053
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,599
Speaker 1: It doesn't really do it for me.

1054
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's one of my favorites, but I

1055
00:58:50,039 --> 00:58:53,079
do think it's a good ending. I think it's we've

1056
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:55,599
gone through all this, We've purged all these thoughts about

1057
00:58:55,599 --> 00:59:00,440
pleasure and guilt and here we are in nowur clean times,

1058
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,360
confession times. That's my favorite thing that he says in

1059
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,079
this song is when he goes really low.

1060
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:10,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes it just doesn't finish as strong as I want

1061
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,920
it to. I don't think it. And if they had

1062
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,760
have finished with Policy of Truth, that'd have been perfect.

1063
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: Cap Yeah, it was inspired by Pink Floyd's One of

1064
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,599
These Days, I believe in nineteen seventy one. It was

1065
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:27,039
completely electronic the song, which was unheard of common at all.

1066
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, cool, Okay, anything else on this one?

1067
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,119
Speaker 3: I think it's very foreshadowing.

1068
00:59:31,639 --> 00:59:32,559
Speaker 1: Okay, how so.

1069
00:59:33,159 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: Well, I think this was right about the time I

1070
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,960
think Dave himself was going through a divorce, like the

1071
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,840
beginnings the breakdown of the marriage. I think within the

1072
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,400
next year or so he was divorced, which kind of

1073
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:49,559
spiraled him into self destruction and heroin addiction. So I

1074
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,960
really do think it's like, this is what's coming next.

1075
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: You like it at the end of the album, I do, because.

1076
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 3: I think we've wrapped all this up and now we're

1077
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:00,519
entering into the next phase and it's not going to

1078
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:02,199
necessarily be pretty Okay.

1079
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,119
Speaker 1: So you mentioned that let's just talk about this real quick.

1080
01:00:05,199 --> 01:00:07,760
So Dave has a rough go after this album. They

1081
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,639
have the world on a string at this point, after Violator,

1082
01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:15,000
the success Violator, he said every velvet rope was open

1083
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,920
anything they wanted tons of money. So in October of

1084
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,280
nineteen ninety three, he collapses on stage from a drug

1085
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,840
induced heart attack in New Orleans. The band had to

1086
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,599
improvise a encore while he's being stretchered off. In August

1087
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:30,960
of nineteen ninety five, he attempts to kill himself by

1088
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,800
slitting his wrists. This is all after this success of

1089
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,519
this album. In May of nineteen ninety six, he overdoses

1090
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:39,199
on a speedball. His heart stops for two minutes. He

1091
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,719
has an out of body experience. He's revived, and the

1092
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,840
paramedics nickname him the Cat due to his nine lives.

1093
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,360
So he divorces the wife that was his heroin buddy.

1094
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: Second wife.

1095
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. He meets another lady at this treatment facility in

1096
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,719
Arizona and they have been married ever since. And he's

1097
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,079
been sober. Now. I think he got his tenure coin

1098
01:01:01,639 --> 01:01:04,239
not too long ago. So awesome. It's doing much better

1099
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,239
and the band is better than ever i've seen some

1100
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,199
live performances out there that just were amazing. Well, one

1101
01:01:11,239 --> 01:01:12,320
of the band members is not.

1102
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: Doing better than ever, that's true. Yes, Angie Fletch Fletcher

1103
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:20,679
passed away in twenty twenty two of an aortic dissection.

1104
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: We usually talk about album artwork and we haven't yet

1105
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:26,000
on this one. Do you guys know who the artist

1106
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:31,079
is who did this? No, it's mister Anton Corporate. Really yeah.

1107
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:33,920
It is a striking cover. It is a red rose

1108
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,320
on a black other otherwise black album cover, and it

1109
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,480
was just well, let's see how this goes, and they

1110
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:40,880
loved it.

1111
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: That sort of ties into how they got the name

1112
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,079
for the album. Have you seen anything on that? No,

1113
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,280
they were actually poking fun at heavy metal, and so

1114
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,199
they went for the most heavy metals sounding name they

1115
01:01:53,199 --> 01:01:54,760
could find, vio Later.

1116
01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:56,679
Speaker 1: Oh that's good, that's awesome.

1117
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,159
Speaker 3: That's kind of what we were coming down from, was

1118
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:00,800
all that metal hair band.

1119
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:04,079
Speaker 2: So the comparison of these two albums, it was the

1120
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:05,159
idea of Amanda Janet.

1121
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: She's the one who put this together for Yes.

1122
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: And then when we said do you want to do Violator,

1123
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,039
she was like, can I just do Disintegration please? Sure,

1124
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:19,239
no problem, and then we said, Genie, you like depeche Mode,

1125
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,679
how about you do it with this, and she graciously

1126
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:24,760
appeared for us. And so Amanda, since this was your idea,

1127
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,400
we're going to throw back and say, Amanda, which of

1128
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:29,280
these two albums?

1129
01:02:29,519 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: As if we didn't know, are you going to pick?

1130
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 8: I don't think this was going to surprise anybody, but

1131
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:36,639
one thing I didn't want to tell, you guys. Anytime

1132
01:02:36,719 --> 01:02:39,639
I listen to either Disintegration or Violator on Spotify, they

1133
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:42,880
go directly to space Age bluff song by Black of Seagulls.

1134
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 7: So apparently I have a taste.

1135
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,199
Speaker 8: But the winner to me, you guys, is just Ineperation

1136
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:50,599
all day, every day. This was not a surprise to anybody.

1137
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,239
I think it's a perfect album from start to finish.

1138
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,280
Just that roller coaster for the heart and mind just

1139
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,599
gets me every single time. Trent Reznor stated it perfectly

1140
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:03,280
in the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. It wasn't just

1141
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,960
the sounds or the words or the presentation. All of

1142
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,559
it was anchored by the most exquisite instruments.

1143
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,199
Speaker 7: Robert Smith's voice.

1144
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:13,719
Speaker 8: That voice is capable of such a range of emotion, form,

1145
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:18,920
and expression. For Rage sorrow and despair to beauty, frailty,

1146
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:23,400
and joy. That in a nutshell is disintegration, a range

1147
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,639
of emotion from an expression of rage, sorrow, and despair

1148
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,320
to beauty, frailty, and joy. I can't think of a

1149
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,760
better way to describe that album. Violator is a good album.

1150
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:37,440
It's not great, guys. I find it boring. You know,

1151
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,599
there's some great songs on their World in My Eyes

1152
01:03:39,719 --> 01:03:42,719
is great, personal Jesus everything else. That song, you know,

1153
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,480
I used to teach cycling and it was one of

1154
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,000
the songs that we cycled to because it's a banger,

1155
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,480
you know, Policy of Truth.

1156
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 7: They're all killer songs.

1157
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 8: Sweetest Perfection makes me want to choke myself, Okay, And

1158
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,159
that's how I feel about a lot of other sums

1159
01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:57,039
on that album.

1160
01:03:57,519 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 7: I played it for my husband last.

1161
01:03:59,159 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 8: Night, just eating, and you only got a couple of

1162
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,519
songs into it because it's just it doesn't do it

1163
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:03,960
for us.

1164
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 7: So zero surprise, Smike the football.

1165
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 8: In the words of Jason, disintegration all day, every day.

1166
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:13,079
Speaker 2: Well, if you listen to our last episode, I don't

1167
01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:15,960
think you're surprised, and the least by that final judgment

1168
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,719
by Amanda. But Amanda, thank you very much for coming

1169
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back and doing that for us.

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Speaker 1: Genie, why don't you tell us where you are on

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your final judgment between the Cures Disintegration album and Depeche

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Mode Violator.

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Speaker 3: Okay, little back history. When you called me and said, hey,

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do you want to do this, and you said it's

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between Violator and The Cure Disintegration, I'm like, oh, Jason,

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I really like the Cure. I think I'm a little biased.

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I think this is going to be a problem. You're like, well,

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we'll see. And I got to tell you, I love Disintegration,

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I love the Cure. I think Lullaby is a fantastic song,

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love song, pictures of you. All those songs to me

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are the Cure. But I also think that the Cure

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has a real big habit of putting a lot of

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skippers or what I like to call stinkers on every

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one of their albums. And for me, those long drawn

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out music riffs. I don't want to go down the

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LSD trip with Robert Smith. I just don't, and so

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for me, I find myself skipping some songs. Violator, on

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the other hand, I really didn't know I knew all

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the songs until I started listening, and then I'm like,

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I know that one. I know that one. I like

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that one, and I think there are a couple of

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skippers on it as well. Here's the big difference between

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the two. Disintegration. Robert Smith was tired of the pop, happy,

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go lucky songs and he wanted to go back to

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the darker stuff, so he's moving backwards. And then at

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the same time, Depeche Mode is wanting to change and

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move forward. They've had great success, they're happy with it,

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but they want to like improve on it and move forward.

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So for me, it's Violator.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So you changed your mind changed my mind?

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Speaker 3: Wow? I love the Cure and I love Robert's bit.

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I gotta tell you, I think Violator is by far

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a better album.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so before we started this, if you had offered

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me a million dollars to name more than five songs

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off of either of these albums, I probably would have

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come up with a few. But I didn't. I'm not

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what wasn't familiar with either of these albums. So thank

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you to Amanda for pushing us this direction. She's exposed

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me to the Cure. Now I love Disintegration. I think

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it's a great album. When I look at Violator, it's

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a little uneven. And when I say that, I think

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the three worst songs from either of these two albums

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is on Violator. But there are three absolute pillars from

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the nineteen nineties that are on Violator. And because of

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the strength of enjoy, the silence, personal Jesus, and policy

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of truth. If I'm walking out the door, I'm grabbing Violator.

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Speaker 2: See Okay, So Violator has nostalgia points that you just mentioned,

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those pillars are a part of my teenage years.

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Speaker 1: I would have said.

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Speaker 2: When we very first started things that I was there's

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no question in my mind, I'm picking Violator. It's got

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to be Violator because I really liked a lot of

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this stuff on Violator. And as I said, even in

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the Cure episode, I didn't like the Cure. I can't

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believe I'm saying this right now. This is nuts. So

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so okay, So like Violator has all that nostalgia for me,

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but I mean the fact that listening to Disintegration within

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the first three minutes took me from I don't like

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the Cure too.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this is really good. It's not just so this

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is okay. This was.

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Speaker 2: I was like, holy crap, this is really good. And

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the whole album is really solid. I mean, there's a

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song or two in there that are not my favorites,

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but as a whole, it's really really strong. And as

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you said, on Violator, there are some there are some

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low spots. Valleys are deeper on Violator, and so I'm teetering.

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I'm teetering on the on the seesaw here. But I

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got to say, Amandaganic's love for the cure is so

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infectious that she has pushed me over the ass. All right,

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I am picking, Yes, I'm saying it. I am picking

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Disintegration as my pick.

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Speaker 1: Of the Wow. Are you spiking the football.

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Speaker 2: Just because she was so gracious and kind and sent

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us these awesome cups?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I will spike the football. That is awesome. D

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that is awesome. So thank you, Amanda. We appreciate you

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for holding up that sign in June and bringing us,

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01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:32,079
dragging us out of the finish line. Geenie, thank you

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for coming here today. You actually drove here in person,

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all those miles. You got a couple of hours. Friend,

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So anyway, thank you for being here and thank you

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for doing this for us. And thank you for bringing Chris.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this was bucket list for me. Like I said,

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I know you guys do this all the time, but

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that's one of the things I'm like talking a podcast

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and now I've done it.

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Speaker 1: I've achieved that goal and big time too.

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Speaker 4: Huh, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little wordy.

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Speaker 2: It was on to hear you say this, so you

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send us a text. You know, we start texting when

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the partnership is you know, decided, and the album is decided,

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we start texting each other like.

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Speaker 1: Oh did you hear this? And oh did you see

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this video?

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Speaker 2: And all this right, And then at some point Jeanie says,

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on a side note, I absolutely love your show, but wow,

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it is crazy to me that you two do this

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time and time again. There are so many rabbit holes

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to go down. And my response was, I hate it.

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Speaker 1: But I love it.

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Speaker 2: Guys, if you have matchups that you want to hear

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us do that, we may not consider hit us up.

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It works, def Dave did it, and he's in our

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01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,399
routine text threat at this point.

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Speaker 1: So that's right. And you know, we talk about the

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biggest compliment that we receive is when somebody admits to

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us that we've moved the needle for them. So if

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you didn't like The Cure or you didn't like depeche

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Mode and we moved the needle for you, let us

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01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,800
hear from you. We want to know that happy. Yeah,

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it does. Okay, So next week d we are diving in.

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We're gonna do kind of a special couple of top fives.

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We're gonna do our top five Halloween movies from the

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nineteen seventies October. It's the perfect time. It's the perfect time.

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And then the week after that, we're gonna do the

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top five Halloween movies from the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we're going to follow that up with

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nineteen eighty three's Stephen King Trilogy, Kujo, Dead Zone, and Christine.

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Speaker 1: See you guys next week.

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Speaker 3: In his lyrics, there's a lot of I can't say

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the word, ambiguity, ambiguity, thank you. There's a lot of

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amboo bit