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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine fifty three Right now, let's hear about traffick Chuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Ingram on fifty five krc the talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>A thirty three fifty five KRCD talk station kick it

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<v Speaker 1>off a little bit late, easing up the valuable time.

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<v Speaker 1>Have one week with iheartmediaviation next for Jay rattle off time.

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<v Speaker 4>I very much. Look forward to and welcome back. Jay.

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<v Speaker 4>Always a pleasure to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm never a problem.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be happy to wait until the dust settles, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>No problem Thomas Massey. You know, if I'm gonna yield

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<v Speaker 1>any time to anybody, it's gonna be because Thomas Massey's

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<v Speaker 1>on the will.

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<v Speaker 5>No problem here.

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<v Speaker 4>I figured you felt the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get one under the belt and out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way before we take a break. Passengers being rude.

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<v Speaker 1>This happens more and more often every single day, not

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<v Speaker 1>just on airplanes.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, it's it's the passengers behaving badly theme.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's continuing here, Brian.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the latest viral photo of a woman traveling in

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<v Speaker 6>first class. She's got her feet firmly planted on the

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<v Speaker 6>wall in front of her, thank you, and she's got

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<v Speaker 6>her electronic device plugged into the u USB port behind

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<v Speaker 6>her in row two. She was apparently stealing power from

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<v Speaker 6>the passenger behind her. And look, I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 6>this entitled person had permission or not from the person

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<v Speaker 6>behind her, or if she just took it anyway, But

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the picture of the deed has gone viral

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<v Speaker 6>with more than a few unkind comments, and I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>I wake up from an app and I see the

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<v Speaker 6>person in front of me as reached behind and stuck

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<v Speaker 6>their power thing in my seat.

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<v Speaker 5>What would I do was plug it? Plug it? Would

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<v Speaker 5>I try to cut it? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I want there to be some serious consequences for infringing.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not suggesting what people do, but I would

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<v Speaker 6>not take kindly to it. And you know some people,

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<v Speaker 6>if you comment on them, they don't care. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>they'll just go about it and it doesn't really seem

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<v Speaker 6>to phase them, which is why I really think you

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<v Speaker 6>need consequences for this kind of behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think just simply unplugging it, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>also have and my own USB plug to plug into it,

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<v Speaker 1>just so I can say, hey, I needed it, it's mine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my seat, you know, in case they got out

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<v Speaker 1>of hand or root or something like that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's since it's in your space and it's allocated

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<v Speaker 1>for your personal use, just going ahead and unplugged it

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<v Speaker 1>and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Is aokay? As a response, well, when.

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<v Speaker 6>You plug it, could you accidentally give it like three

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<v Speaker 6>big Yanks or something, just to knock something out of

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He sounds to me like you want to take it

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<v Speaker 1>to the next level. Jay.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to be our next aviation story, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just tired of people that, you know, reach over

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<v Speaker 6>when they're in the aisle seat and slam down the

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<v Speaker 6>the window seat, or people that just infringe on other

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<v Speaker 6>people's space. And you know, it's one thing to kindly

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<v Speaker 6>ask and that's fine, but it's another thing just to

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<v Speaker 6>take it on your own to do it like you're

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<v Speaker 6>entitled to the whole row, or not only your row,

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<v Speaker 6>but the one in front of you behind you. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's me just just not acceptable. And you know, this

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<v Speaker 6>may have been a stage photo. I don't know, because

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of times we see things on airplanes that

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't believe had I not been there to see.

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<v Speaker 4>Valid point.

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<v Speaker 1>Always be jaded and cenecal when it comes to things

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet. That's what Abraham Lincoln's advice always.

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<v Speaker 4>Was, don't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard be the aviation expert, Jay rattlife, We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back after these brief words tax Prepper above KARCIT

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<v Speaker 1>talk station Jay Radlife, Has I heard me the aviation Expert?

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<v Speaker 1>Every Thursday are on the fifty five Carscina Morning should

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<v Speaker 1>beginning a thirty for a few segments. Moving over to

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco duking it out with Oakland? What's the story

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<v Speaker 1>on this one?

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<v Speaker 6>You and I talked about this briefly back in May,

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<v Speaker 6>when the Oakland Airport officials were trying to find a

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<v Speaker 6>way to get more people to fly into their airport,

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<v Speaker 6>and they thought, you know, maybe people don't realize how

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<v Speaker 6>close we are to San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 6>So what they decided to do was change the name

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<v Speaker 6>of the airport to San Francisco Bay Oakland International Airport.

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<v Speaker 6>So they just took their same name of Oakland International Airport,

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<v Speaker 6>slapped San Francisco Bay on the front and thought this

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<v Speaker 6>would cause more people to recognize they're part of the

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<v Speaker 6>San Francisco Bay area and more people would fly there.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's an accurate description too, it is.

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<v Speaker 6>However, is the San Francisco Airport trademarked?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Apparently there is some issue there because the San Francisco

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<v Speaker 6>Airport started pushing back, but not before a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>confusion by passengers who were heading to San Francisco saw

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<v Speaker 6>the name San Francisco Bay kind of skipped the Oakland

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<v Speaker 6>International Airport and they're landing at the wrong airport. They

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<v Speaker 6>get off the plane and fight, We're twenty three miles

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<v Speaker 6>from where we're supposed to be going, or twenty three

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<v Speaker 6>miles from my connecting flight. Not a good thing. A

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<v Speaker 6>lot of confusion was being created, and finally a judge

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<v Speaker 6>has stepped in and said, look, for now, we're going

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<v Speaker 6>to Oakland is not to be using the name San

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<v Speaker 6>Francisco Airport in their name.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Whether or not this temporary thing is going to hold

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<v Speaker 6>or not, I don't know, because I mean, it's the

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<v Speaker 6>San Francisco Bay Oakland International Airport. So we'll see where

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<v Speaker 6>it goes. Because I don't see that as an infringement issue.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, Well, we're.

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<v Speaker 6>Just talking about the area that we're located in. But Brian,

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<v Speaker 6>the good news is Oakland is getting more passengers. News

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<v Speaker 6>is some of them weren't going there in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really funny.

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<v Speaker 5>But we'll see where it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco the city, there's San Francisco the Bay right yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's Oakland, which sits on San Francisco Bay right,

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<v Speaker 1>So a nice.

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<v Speaker 6>Alternative airport if you don't want to mess with the

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<v Speaker 6>larger San Francisco airport.

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<v Speaker 5>And a lot of suggestion there.

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<v Speaker 1>All I can say is, you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with Oakland doing it simply because it's an

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<v Speaker 1>accurate name.

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<v Speaker 5>It is. It's they're They're totally accurate.

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<v Speaker 6>The problem is a lot of people that are flying

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<v Speaker 6>to San Francisco see San Francisco Bay and they're thinking,

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<v Speaker 6>okayur absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen man, that takes some responsibility for your own conduct.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm gonna I'm going with Oakland on that one.

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<v Speaker 6>One vote on the side of Oakland.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, call it whatever the hell they want.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, let's see here, spirit Air.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this article and I kind of figured you

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<v Speaker 1>bring it up, wow, aka fire or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>A routine flight, I mean, you know, Frontier or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 6>Fort Lauderdale flying into Port of Prince Haiti like they

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<v Speaker 6>do every day, and the plane drops its landing gears

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<v Speaker 6>on final approach, when all of a sudden, gunfire rops

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<v Speaker 6>and they have to take evasive action. They fly out

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<v Speaker 6>of the Haitian airspace over the Dominican Republican land and

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<v Speaker 6>the pictures of the overhead storage compartment with bullet holes

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<v Speaker 6>going through them, significant size, quite telling, quite horrific. But

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<v Speaker 6>the issue here is, you know, we have probably four

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<v Speaker 6>or five flights today that were going into Haiti on

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<v Speaker 6>a daily basis with Jeff Blue and Spear and others.

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<v Speaker 6>But Brian, back in early September, the State Department on

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<v Speaker 6>their very useful website, and I'm being totally sincere here,

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<v Speaker 6>they have travel advisories to places around the world, and

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<v Speaker 6>when it came to Haiti, they were recommending not to

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<v Speaker 6>travel there because Americans were seeing an increased number of assaults, robberies,

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<v Speaker 6>kidnapping for ransom, and they added this little bit at

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<v Speaker 6>the end uh the airport could be a focal point.

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<v Speaker 5>For armed activity.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, now this is early September, so now the airline'swhere

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<v Speaker 6>well it is, And you know, Sherry flew down there

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<v Speaker 6>after the earthquake and helped with you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 6>a week, and I was worried when she went. But

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<v Speaker 6>you know, since then it's only gotten worse. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>now you have a situation where a flight attendant was

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<v Speaker 6>slightly injured.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it was by the gunfire or

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<v Speaker 5>the evasive action.

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<v Speaker 6>And but you're also thinking, okay, how many people are

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<v Speaker 6>going to sue Spirit Airlines because it's obvious that the

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<v Speaker 6>State Department said not a good idea.

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<v Speaker 5>To go there, you decided to go there.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyways, the you know, the the advisory in early September

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<v Speaker 6>from the US government said armed focal point, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>armed activity. Is that gonna be something you know, people

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<v Speaker 6>can sue over the day of the week. So I

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<v Speaker 6>suspect that this is going to be interesting for Pirit,

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<v Speaker 6>who's having a rough week anyways, because they're about to

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<v Speaker 6>file for bankruptcy and their stock has dropped like sixty

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<v Speaker 6>percent this week. Yeah, please don't buy it, by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>And it's going to be interesting to see how things go.

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<v Speaker 6>Now the FAA has stepped in and said no US

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<v Speaker 6>carriers flying two Haiti for the next thirty days, as

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<v Speaker 6>we kind of see if any of this is going

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<v Speaker 6>to calm down, and I suspect it won't.

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<v Speaker 5>And another good discussion.

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<v Speaker 6>On this front is how many times have you and

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<v Speaker 6>I talked about the people that say they want a

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<v Speaker 6>totally automated flight deck. Tell me what that computer would

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<v Speaker 6>do if it's getting shot at. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>that would be part of the programmed response or not.

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<v Speaker 6>And knowing a lot of these men and women in

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<v Speaker 6>the cockpit are former military, some of which you have

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<v Speaker 6>been shot at before. Yeah, that's the experience I went

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<v Speaker 6>on the flight deck. If we encountered this kind of

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<v Speaker 6>situation flying anywhere in.

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<v Speaker 4>The world, well, I have to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, the State Department did not outright ban

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<v Speaker 1>They just recommended that people not go to Haiti. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>cave im for you got on a plane Haiti when

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<v Speaker 1>the State Department warned you ahead of time there could

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<v Speaker 1>be armed activity, it's your issue. As for Spirit, they

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<v Speaker 1>have no obligation to anticipate criminal activity. How in the

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<v Speaker 1>hell would they know that their plane's going to get

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<v Speaker 5>The US carrier.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I would say they're free liability for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So once the State Department bans you outright from flying,

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<v Speaker 1>if they fly down there, then liability might crop up

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<v Speaker 1>because they're well, they're violating the rules in the FA

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<v Speaker 1>regulations at the outset, So yeah, I don't think. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're going to have any issues with lawsuits,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they do, they will be promptly dismissed. That's

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<v Speaker 5>I was.

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<v Speaker 6>I always lean on you for that, and I look

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<v Speaker 6>forward to your interpretation of a lot of these things

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<v Speaker 6>because I'm curious. You know exactly how exposed an airline

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<v Speaker 6>would be on this, and you know, we've got people

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<v Speaker 6>in other parts of the state that listen to us,

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<v Speaker 6>and some have reservations on Spirit Airlines moving forward, and

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<v Speaker 6>I mentioned that they're preparing to file for Chapter eleven bankruptcy. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>if you have reservations on Spirit, don't worry. The airline

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<v Speaker 6>under Chapter eleven is just going to go through a

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<v Speaker 6>process that many US carriers have gone through, including United

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<v Speaker 6>American and others. So from our side of the counter,

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<v Speaker 6>you won't notice much different. You will see them change

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<v Speaker 6>some of their routes and they'll they'll do some different things,

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<v Speaker 6>but they're going to continue to operate under the court

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<v Speaker 6>approved and I guess supervised Chapter eleven process. So don't

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<v Speaker 6>let that prevent you from making future reservations or being

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<v Speaker 6>overly worried about upcoming reservations because they will continue businesses

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<v Speaker 6>as normal as they can. What really sent them off

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<v Speaker 6>the edge this week, Brian, was they were having problem

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<v Speaker 6>raising money and they went back to Frontier to see

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<v Speaker 6>if maybe they could rekindle those merger talks. Remember it

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<v Speaker 6>was the two of them a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 6>that we're going to get together. I really liked Frontier

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<v Speaker 6>Spirit merging, and jet Blue kind of pushed in as

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<v Speaker 6>the new suitor offering more money, and Frontier was kind

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<v Speaker 6>of shoved to the side like a jilted lover to speak,

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<v Speaker 6>while jet Blue isn't approved for the merger, and Spirit

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<v Speaker 6>goes back to Frontier and Frontier says no, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's one of the reasons Spirit is seeing the

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<v Speaker 6>issues that they've been having this week announcing they're very

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<v Speaker 6>close to filing for Chapter eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I see Southwest Airlines also having a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They were addressing their overstaffing issues, which is I guess

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<v Speaker 1>this a sign of trouble.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess they've never laid a single person off ever

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<v Speaker 6>in the history of that airline. And when we came

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<v Speaker 6>into the pandemic, that thought was, oh, that streak is

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<v Speaker 6>over and Back then, they offered the opportunity for voluntary separations.

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<v Speaker 6>It was an early retirement package for some of their

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<v Speaker 6>senior employees and Brian, they had nineteen percent of their workforce,

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<v Speaker 6>that is an unbelievable number step forward and said, look,

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<v Speaker 6>we've had a great career here. I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 6>an early retirement so the people behind me can enjoy

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<v Speaker 6>what I had. So even through the pandemic, they had

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<v Speaker 6>never laid a single person off. Now they're a point

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<v Speaker 6>where the Boeing aircraft delays have really impacted them, and

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<v Speaker 6>they've seen the service at certain airports shrink just a bit.

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<v Speaker 6>I think Cleveland's being impacted by this as well, a

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<v Speaker 6>lot in Atlanta and a bunch of other airports. Nothing

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<v Speaker 6>at Cincinnati right now, and they're being forced to offer

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<v Speaker 6>these early retirement packages, the voluntary separations to people to

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<v Speaker 6>see if enough people will take advantage of it, ending

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<v Speaker 6>their work the end of next month, December thirty first,

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<v Speaker 6>so they won't have to lay anyone off. If they

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<v Speaker 6>don't get enough people stepping forward, well, then Southwest is

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<v Speaker 6>going to be forced to do what most other airlines

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<v Speaker 6>have and the first time in their history as far

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<v Speaker 6>as actually laying off some of their employees. And this

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<v Speaker 6>is just a sign of the Boeing situation.

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<v Speaker 5>A plus.

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<v Speaker 6>Southwest has been slow to adapt as far as offering

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<v Speaker 6>the premium seats and now the assigned seats and the

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<v Speaker 6>idea of baby charging for check bags. They're going to

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<v Speaker 6>have to do all of these things moving forward. So

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<v Speaker 6>they're a little slow, and we're bonding, but least they're

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<v Speaker 6>pointed in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, point in the right direction is better that we

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<v Speaker 4>can better than nothing.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, well slower, Hey, look, if there's anybody that

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<v Speaker 6>can pull this stuff off, I'm convinced at Southwest.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with you on that.

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<v Speaker 5>I've proven it too many times before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've sung the praises many times over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, as we always then hub delays. How's it

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<v Speaker 1>looking out there for air travel today?

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<v Speaker 5>Jay?

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<v Speaker 6>Rain? I mean, obviously a lot of rain. We've had

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<v Speaker 6>issues in Atlanta, Charlotte's, Detroit. Those going to be the

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<v Speaker 6>three airports hammered the most. Some of those delays already

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<v Speaker 6>an hour. It's kind of moving towards the northeast. Might

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<v Speaker 6>give us some headaches there late this evening, but right now,

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<v Speaker 6>those are the airports that are fighting delays, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>anything west of us looks great. The problem is that

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<v Speaker 6>weather that we have and it's moving towards the east

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<v Speaker 6>and causing a lot of travel disruptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Jay Riller's Advice ten and every Thursday at eight

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<v Speaker 1>thirty for more of the same. Jay Rale if it's

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<v Speaker 1>always a real pleasure to have you on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, I look forward to next Thursday and between

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<v Speaker 1>now and then as all always, best of health to

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<v Speaker 1>you and your better half.

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<v Speaker 5>Appreciate Brian, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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