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<v Speaker 1>Oh Bread of des A.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 2>of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan. I'm jogging today

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<v Speaker 2>we have your boy for the very first time. Tim

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<v Speaker 2>Constantine from the sixth Censory podcast What it Do, Homie?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, guys, happy to be here, Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, it's been a long time coming. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you've been around for a little while, right,

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<v Speaker 2>m hmm, Yeah, dude, I because I remember watching your

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<v Speaker 2>videos like for quite a while. Now. I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't like somebody who was just popping on the

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<v Speaker 2>scene or anything like that. But I've I've seen some

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<v Speaker 2>of your some of your clips on social media and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and you like to get in there. So that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do today.

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<v Speaker 4>Baby, did a little research into you. Bro. You just

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<v Speaker 4>recently had our homeboy Josh Monday on the show. Not

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<v Speaker 4>too long ago, you had our homeboy Justin from Prometheus

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<v Speaker 4>Lenz on your show. So I just just looking at

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<v Speaker 4>those two alone, it's like, well, any homeboy of theirs

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<v Speaker 4>is a homeboy of ours. So yeah, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be fun. I curry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been wanting to do something with

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<v Speaker 3>you guys. I'm aware of your show, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I knew about you guys before Josh Monday too, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm aware of his like Sunday service with you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've also caught other episodes of yours. So long

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<v Speaker 3>time I'm coming, I suppose, and I'm happy to be here,

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<v Speaker 3>happy to do it. Man. Those guys are great guys too,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, I shout out too and Prometheus, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, yeah, I are. We We bought his book, Justin's

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<v Speaker 2>Justin's Book on the Nephelum giants and the giant skulls

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. I mean, just amazing. It always

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<v Speaker 2>amazes me that anybody can sit down long enough over

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<v Speaker 2>such a you know, however amount of time to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to like put towards a book like that like

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<v Speaker 2>that takes serious like devotion and dedication, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>and he's done his research. I mean, he knows what

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<v Speaker 2>he's talking about. He has receipts, I mean the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>receipts that you can possibly find, which are probably the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, yeah, good people, good people.

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<v Speaker 4>But said Tim, what is your background now as we

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<v Speaker 4>get into this in the name of your show sixth

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<v Speaker 4>censory and all these things, and not to just jump

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<v Speaker 4>the gun here, but what is your religious background? Where

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<v Speaker 4>do you? Where were you? You know, how are you

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<v Speaker 4>brought up? Where are you at now with it all

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<v Speaker 4>just curious?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I was brought up Christian and got away

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<v Speaker 3>from it for a while, but I have since returned

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<v Speaker 3>and started reading the Bible all the way through, which

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't gotten there yet, but I started reading the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>My mark is to get all the way through it soon.

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<v Speaker 3>I started that about a year ago, and like time

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<v Speaker 3>after time, I've come across passages where I'll stop, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>find something that's interesting. I'll stop, I'll look into it

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<v Speaker 3>and like, for instance, like was it the Book of

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<v Speaker 3>Esther They were talking about the city in there in

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<v Speaker 3>like the first chapter and it's called Susa, I believe,

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<v Speaker 3>And I went and looked it up and it's still there.

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<v Speaker 3>The place is real. And like time after time, you

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<v Speaker 3>see that with scripture, and I'm like, wow, this book

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<v Speaker 3>is like the Bible is not what people think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to read it to figure out like it's

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<v Speaker 3>been it's been turned into this weird thing in America.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not this like guy in a suit, fat guy

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<v Speaker 3>in a suit, sweat and screaming behind a pulpit. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's none of that. It wasn't meant to be taken

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<v Speaker 3>to that, to that level. This is about people who

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<v Speaker 3>lived in the Middle East, essentially, and this the the

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<v Speaker 3>whole journey that this group of people had. It's meant

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<v Speaker 3>as a microcosm for everybody, sure, but this was not,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, meant to like, this was not meant for

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<v Speaker 3>white Republicans. I don't know how it turned into that.

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<v Speaker 3>But and if you if you get in there and

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<v Speaker 3>read it and like, look, I'm not shaming white Republicans.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not affiliate with any party here. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>saying it's turned into that in many regions in this country,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm saying it wasn't intended for that. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>even about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they've absolutely turned it into idolatry and also

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<v Speaker 2>using it for for to grab voters, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>because what you'll see is is that people will and

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<v Speaker 2>I and hey, we're gonna call it out here both ways,

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<v Speaker 2>really because I'm I'm not for either version of the extreme.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you whenever comes to political parties

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot, but whenever you're using an entire religion as

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<v Speaker 2>one of your base talking points. And it has gotten

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<v Speaker 2>It has gotten wild lately, dude. Like I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>they are using it to the absolute max. You got

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<v Speaker 2>Trump like posting on true Social or Twitter or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>talking about like he was gonna be the new Pope.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know it's an AI kind of thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, bro, and people look at that and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's literally our savior. He's literally going to come

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<v Speaker 2>save us, and like there's a big difference between being

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<v Speaker 2>politically saved and spiritually saved.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that being said, though, he posts this picture an

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<v Speaker 4>AI image of him as the pope, and fine, it

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<v Speaker 4>was a meme, it was meant in jest. Whatever. Then

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<v Speaker 4>we have the first American pope in history. Yo, say

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<v Speaker 4>what you want, but that's wild, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And the last pope died the day after he met

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<v Speaker 3>with JJ or jd Vance.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, look, I'm not saying there's an obvious connection, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying we can't ignore the fact there may be

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<v Speaker 4>a connection, that's all.

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<v Speaker 3>And jd Vance is going around I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you guys have noticed this, but he's been on this

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<v Speaker 3>weird tour that has to do with Greenland as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It got a little bit of coverage, but there was

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<v Speaker 3>a story that ran a couple of weeks ago now

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<v Speaker 3>where he was in Greenland, and you know the whole

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<v Speaker 3>thing with Greenland, like Trump wants to take Greenland. It

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<v Speaker 3>belongs to Denmark in some sort of capacity, but he

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<v Speaker 3>wants to take it. Well, in the pictures with where

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<v Speaker 3>they're like showing Jay was jd Vance, right, he's not

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<v Speaker 3>in the pictures behind him? Is what's it called? It's

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<v Speaker 3>an old base. It's an old camp, Hero is what

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<v Speaker 3>it's called. That's that's a secret underground city that we

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<v Speaker 3>put in back in like the fifties. I think they

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<v Speaker 3>say it's got my like hundreds of miles of tunnels

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<v Speaker 3>down there. Now they don't say that in the article.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not pointing out the fact that this is Camp Century.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just showing a picture of him. But what's he

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<v Speaker 3>doing at Camp at this old like enigma of a

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<v Speaker 3>military base?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And then when you look into like Greenland more, you

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<v Speaker 3>see that we have this place called Thule there, it

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<v Speaker 3>was called Thule Air Base. We took it the exact time,

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<v Speaker 3>the exact same time we went down for Operation was

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<v Speaker 3>it Bird's Operation down to Antarctica High Jump. What people

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<v Speaker 3>don't realize is when we sent Bird down for High Jump,

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<v Speaker 3>we also sent a fleet up to the top of

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<v Speaker 3>Greenland called uh and to a place called Thule that

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<v Speaker 3>the Nazis had. It's called Operation Nanook. We took an

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<v Speaker 3>old Nazi base, kept the name, called it Thule Air

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<v Speaker 3>Force Base, and then it's still there today. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>space force base, but it was named after a Nazi

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<v Speaker 3>a cult order called the Society.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is quite strange.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but he knows anything about this. And I'm telling

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<v Speaker 3>people keep your eyes on Greenland because they're cooking with

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<v Speaker 3>something up there, and it has to do with something

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<v Speaker 3>we took from the Nazis with a cult ties for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, dude, I'm I've I've started to think

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<v Speaker 2>this here a little bit lately, and trust me up

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<v Speaker 2>all the way, Team America, But this is starting to

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<v Speaker 2>turn into like empirical right, Like this is like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about taking over Canada, you're renaming a fucking

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<v Speaker 2>body of water to Gulf of America. You're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>take over Greenland. You're You're like like all these tariffs

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<v Speaker 2>all over the world were making them bend to like

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<v Speaker 2>bend their knee to us, like they just they just

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<v Speaker 2>made a deal with China like yesterday. And I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>this is some Roman emperor type shit right here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, we were founded on Rome for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, we I'd like to get into that

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<v Speaker 3>at some point today, like because I'm chipping way at

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<v Speaker 3>this massive conspiracy that involves you said giants earlier, and

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<v Speaker 3>just the history of our nation, the true history of

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<v Speaker 3>our nation. And one of the things that they did

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<v Speaker 3>was they were looking for a place with seven hills.

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<v Speaker 3>The founders were because they were obsessed with the seven

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<v Speaker 3>Hills of Rome. The Etruscans, you know, built Rome there.

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<v Speaker 3>They were in a cult order for sure. They were

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<v Speaker 3>in like a group of these old like witches that

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<v Speaker 3>established Rome. So our guys, our founding fathers, came over

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<v Speaker 3>here and we're looking to do the same thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they they named the capital after the Etruscans

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<v Speaker 3>capital and that was in Rome. So and I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just went down a wild couple of rabbit trails there.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you're not the first person to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>DC has called the City on seven Hills. Rome is

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<v Speaker 4>called the City in seven Hills. Jerusalem is also called

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<v Speaker 4>the City of seven Hills. Look, I get right, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no there's no shortage of comparisons that can be drawn,

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<v Speaker 4>for sure. And then you look at the architecture. Why,

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<v Speaker 4>with America of being the new, latest and greatest of

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<v Speaker 4>a democratic republic, why did all of our buildings need

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<v Speaker 4>to look like the Greek parthions and shit? Why did

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<v Speaker 4>it need to look Roman in nature? No, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>saying that I don't like the Roman pillar aesthetic. Fine,

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<v Speaker 4>that's fine, but what does it stand for? But why

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<v Speaker 4>what does it fucking stand for? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I think what that has to do with is largely

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's two secret societies I've been looking into. One

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<v Speaker 3>is the Society of Cincinnati and one is the Cosmos Club.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can I can break that down more later.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're going to need to have never heard of

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<v Speaker 4>either of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just tell you this one thing though, real

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<v Speaker 3>quick about Society of Cincinnati. George Washington himself founded that

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<v Speaker 3>it predates the country.

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<v Speaker 4>The Society of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes. And one of the things that they did was,

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<v Speaker 3>uh that they all those guys in in the Society

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<v Speaker 3>of Cincinnati were from older orders. George Washington himself is

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<v Speaker 3>a descendant of the Templars, okay, and all those other

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<v Speaker 3>guys were descendants of Masons and Rescrucians, et cetera. And

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<v Speaker 3>they were obsessed with these old pagan Greek type of

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<v Speaker 3>there's an occult strand there that you see through all

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<v Speaker 3>these old cultures that these guys were very obsessed with.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why it pops up in our architecture today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>They were so into the Greek stuff. Man. It goes

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<v Speaker 3>back to older orders, and it goes back to the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what is it at one of the Capitol buildings

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, where it's George Washington up there, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's basically turning himself into an idol at that

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<v Speaker 2>point and comparing them to a cathedral. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>If anybody thinks that these guys weren't like a cultist

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<v Speaker 3>or at least a cult minded, go google George Washington's

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<v Speaker 3>Freemasonic temple in Alexandria.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he meant that to be like a like

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<v Speaker 3>a Seventh Wonder of the World type thing because it's huge, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, no, it is. Allegedly it mimics the Lighthouse

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<v Speaker 4>of Alexandria. Okay, I actually have been there when I

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<v Speaker 4>about a year that I moved to Alexandria, Virginia. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>when you look this up, Jonathan, I know you're googling

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<v Speaker 4>it right now. Look at Old Town, Virginia, George Washington

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<v Speaker 4>Masonic Temple. Okay, the front lawn of this thing has

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<v Speaker 4>a giant Masonic compass in square, which okay, fine. The

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<v Speaker 4>entire bottom floor of this temple is a museum open

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<v Speaker 4>to the public. I've been there, as a matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 3>What's in those tower? What's in the tower? It looks

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<v Speaker 3>like it's got four stories of town.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it has more than four, dude. It's like I

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<v Speaker 4>want to say, it's like a twenty story building and

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<v Speaker 4>the only floor that the regular public is allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>go to is the first floor. Now you think that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>After you look up this image, look at the Masonic

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<v Speaker 4>Temple of Washington, d C. Like the lodge where you

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<v Speaker 4>are made a thirty third degree Mason. So here theere

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<v Speaker 4>I was, and I'll give you the backstore in this one.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a high school kid. Okay, my soon to

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<v Speaker 4>be mother in law of the ex wife and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>She lived two blocks away from this. So we are

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<v Speaker 4>in the middle of downtown d C. Big buildings, big

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<v Speaker 4>high rises, metros and taxis, the whole nine. And we're

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<v Speaker 4>just walking the block and I see this shit just

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<v Speaker 4>in the middle of Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro Pikes, Albert Pike.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, Albert Pike is the guy on as far

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<v Speaker 4>as all this is concern. But the George Washington Masonic

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<v Speaker 4>Lodge in old Town Alexandria, Virginia, plus this being I

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<v Speaker 4>mean we're talking optimistically a fifteen minute drive away, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's all that connected. Bro. I'm with you one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've never heard of the Order of Cincinnati. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll jump into it in a second. But like,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's pictures of this, So the pictures on here

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<v Speaker 3>of George Washington's Masonic temple in Alexandria, they're not doing

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<v Speaker 3>it justice. Oh, if you look in the middle, there's

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<v Speaker 3>one of that's from far away right, and you get

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<v Speaker 3>a glimpse of like a panorama of this place. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like right down there in the middle with like the

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<v Speaker 3>blue sky right next to that one boom, that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that gives you perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>That is freaking huge, that's how.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's pictures of it from if you're standing

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<v Speaker 3>on the stoop, Like if you just walk out of

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<v Speaker 3>the front door and you can see four miles, it's

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<v Speaker 3>uh oh yeah, it's it's almost like a godlike experience

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<v Speaker 3>that I think he was trying to capture.

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<v Speaker 4>By the view, there's the giant Masonic compass and square

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<v Speaker 4>on the front lawn. Dude, look, I'm telling you could

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<v Speaker 4>see this from anywhere in Old Town, Virginia, which is

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<v Speaker 4>where I was married the first time, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>So like, yeah, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>People, And don't you think it's strange that they won't

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<v Speaker 3>let people up in that thing up in the tower.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the same as like people being allowed into a

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<v Speaker 4>Masonic temple. Like that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>They're telling you. That's what they're telling you. But like

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<v Speaker 3>what's up there, man, That's that's big enough to be

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<v Speaker 3>a skyscraper in the house, Like companies, corporations, large amounts

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<v Speaker 3>of people like what's up there, you know, anytime they

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<v Speaker 3>have something blocked off like that, like they do with Petra.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll try not to get started on Petra because

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<v Speaker 3>that's another.

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<v Speaker 4>You tell us where you want to go. We're here

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<v Speaker 4>for a smoke.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll go with Society as Cincinnati. But I'll make my

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<v Speaker 3>point with Petra. Petra is not what they've told us.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not established by the Nabateans. It was established

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<v Speaker 3>by Esau the Edomites in the Bible where it says

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<v Speaker 3>Esau took his wives, which were Nephlum by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>they were Canaanite women and one was a Nephlum descendant

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Uh that he took them to Seer. Seer's

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<v Speaker 3>right next to Petra. So they built that using like

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<v Speaker 3>old world technology and stuff. So there's tunnels all through

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<v Speaker 3>that and it goes down into the mountain and they

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<v Speaker 3>were storing like old world just technology, manuscripts and occult

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<v Speaker 3>records there and it's all blocked off to the public.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my point. It's like you see this time and

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<v Speaker 3>time again, there's you. They'll let people in. They let

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<v Speaker 3>people in the Petra but they block off the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of it they want. They let them walk inside the

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<v Speaker 3>mountain for about I don't know, twenty feet or so,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's as far as you're allowed to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you gotta. I'm sure their reason for that

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<v Speaker 2>is wanting to keep the temple clean, like spiritually clean

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<v Speaker 2>in a sense, because if you think about it, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what all those old temples are really for, like that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean secret society type temples. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 2>the Jewish temples and all that other stuff, but the

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<v Speaker 2>secret society temples I know for sure. That's like you

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<v Speaker 2>know I I dive in a lot into the occult

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<v Speaker 2>and magic and witchcraft and stuff like that. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>this awesome book I highly tell everybody, like just try

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<v Speaker 2>and if you can find this book, it's I got

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<v Speaker 2>it off Amazon, but it's it's called The Magickiant written

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<v Speaker 2>by Philip Cooper. Dude, whenever you want to understand like

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<v Speaker 2>the mindset of these people that are going into into

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<v Speaker 2>the temple, I mean, say what you want about what

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<v Speaker 2>you believe is what you believe is real? And are

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<v Speaker 2>they giving us the full thing? What I'm not going there?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know why they think this, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to understand why it works in their mind, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. And you talk about the temple, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the temple that he was talking about in that

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<v Speaker 2>book is it's supposed to be a place that literally

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<v Speaker 2>nobody ever goes into, like only you, like your wife

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<v Speaker 2>can't go in there, your kids can't go in there,

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<v Speaker 2>your dogs can't go in there. It has to be

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<v Speaker 2>a place whereas it is completely off limits to any

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<v Speaker 2>even eyes, they can't even look at it because it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be known to you and your subconscious mind

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever that this is your place and nobody's ever

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<v Speaker 2>going to taint it in that way. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>asking why these people aren't allowed to go up into

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<v Speaker 2>the temple buildings and shit like that, I would probably

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<v Speaker 2>say that is probably why, because they don't want their

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<v Speaker 2>magic to get tainted. Like these people are absolutely a cult.

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<v Speaker 2>They're absolutely into Yeah, they're absolutely into magic. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as sacrifices and ship like that goes ah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably yeah. I would also say that.

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<v Speaker 3>They were certainly into magic. They were in the mounds.

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<v Speaker 3>They were into the magic of the mounds as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh and and there and don't get up there folks.

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<v Speaker 3>There temples in North that the Native Americans didn't build,

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't build. They predate, They go back to an

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<v Speaker 3>earlier era. They you know, there's that enigma that is mountains.

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<v Speaker 3>And we can get into this later, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>it comes up. But there was a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>coming over here and they were establishing temples. They were

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<v Speaker 3>using magic. They were they were integrating magic into the

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<v Speaker 3>actual building and all into the math of it, into

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<v Speaker 3>everything about every aspect used magic. And you see that

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<v Speaker 3>with the temples they built, which have been covered up,

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<v Speaker 3>and the mounds, which some of them are still left.

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<v Speaker 3>And Washington knew about this. He knew about these mounds.

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<v Speaker 3>He was obsessed with them. He was a mound guy

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<v Speaker 3>when he was in his when he was a teenager,

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<v Speaker 3>he was checking out mounds writing about him. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>a big part of this. And so you know, back

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<v Speaker 3>to the society of Cincinnati, I think they knew all

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<v Speaker 3>about this, and they were they were utilizing the mounds.

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<v Speaker 3>They built all their cities on mounds. They built, uh

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<v Speaker 3>what was it like governor's mansions on mounds. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>same concept as the what the Catholic Church has done

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the ages where they will go in to a

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<v Speaker 3>pagan site and put a Catholic cathedral right on top

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<v Speaker 3>of it. They're they're utilizing that earth energy, all that

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<v Speaker 3>woo woo stuff. Oh yeah, I don't care if it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter if I believe in it. That's what they did.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they believed in it. They were they were

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<v Speaker 3>taking the pagan energy and like re channeling it for

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<v Speaker 3>their Catholic Church Vatican wants and needs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not even a question that that's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean with the Society of Cincinnati. Did guys, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling you.

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<v Speaker 4>So, tell us more about that society. This is the

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<v Speaker 4>first time in my life I've ever heard of the

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<v Speaker 4>Society of Cincinnati. Give us a breakdown of this era.

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<v Speaker 3>I will. I will let me just throw it in

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<v Speaker 3>a little shout out in a disclaimer here, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been studying the Cosmos Club, which I'll get to

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<v Speaker 3>that later too, because it wine. But I was on

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<v Speaker 3>a live recently and I was this guy was this

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<v Speaker 3>guy's name is JJ Vance, not jd Vance, This guys

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<v Speaker 3>JJ Vance, And he was talking about the Society of Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't really heard about it. So I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that reminds me of the Cosmos Club. He's like, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the Cosmos Club? So he's telling me about Society of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling about Cosmos Club, and then I tell him

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<v Speaker 3>about the headquarters of the Cosmos COVID in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 3>He pulls it up and he goes, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>believe this. The headquarters for the Society of Cincinnati's right

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<v Speaker 3>across the street from the Cosmos Club. So we put

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<v Speaker 3>these puzzle pieces together a couple of weeks ago. So

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<v Speaker 3>all that to say, I'm still learning about Society the

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati and this guy has there's another guy out there

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<v Speaker 3>who's talking about it, and I just don't want it

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<v Speaker 3>to come across like I'm still on his research. He

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<v Speaker 3>told me about it, but I want to give him

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<v Speaker 3>that shout out because he's got more years behind him

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<v Speaker 3>on this stuff. But basically, what I found is that

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<v Speaker 3>they were founded May thirteenth, seventeen eighty three. That was

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<v Speaker 3>four years before the framing of the Constitution in seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty seven, so they predate that. Right. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>Washington himself built this or established this. He was the

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<v Speaker 3>president of the Society of the Cincinnati six years before

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<v Speaker 3>he becomes our American president. So this in a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of ways, this kind of predates the country in some

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<v Speaker 3>weird kind of faucets. Like you know that all that

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<v Speaker 3>talk about there being a secret society behind our government,

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's true, and this is certainly one of them,

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<v Speaker 3>because twenty three signers of Constitution were in this. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>they they integrated. It's like they integrated the beginnings of

420
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<v Speaker 3>America with the once in direction of the Society of Cincinnati.

421
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<v Speaker 3>Because what they did was they had fourteen sub societies,

422
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<v Speaker 3>one for all thirteen colonies and one for the French

423
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<v Speaker 3>people who are still hanging around over here. That makes sense,

424
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<v Speaker 3>deeply ingrained in the beginnings of our country.

425
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<v Speaker 2>Seeing you wouldn't know about it, and you wouldn't think

426
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<v Speaker 2>that you would think, oh, these are our founding fathers.

427
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<v Speaker 2>This is what started this great country. And look, there's

428
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<v Speaker 2>nothing against secret society, especially back then. Everybody was in

429
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<v Speaker 2>a fucking secret society and everybody of importance anyway.

430
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<v Speaker 4>But the social like clubs, you know, that's what it was.

431
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<v Speaker 4>You were yes to the social network, right if you

432
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<v Speaker 4>had money and you like to get down and smoke

433
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<v Speaker 4>fine cigars and drink fine scotch. You were a part

434
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<v Speaker 4>of these aristocras, credick socialite clubs. That's what it was.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're saying that that's what it turned into. Now

436
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<v Speaker 2>you're saying that that's not what it was.

437
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<v Speaker 3>Then, No, yeah, exactly, I'm saying that's what history is

438
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<v Speaker 3>looking back on this and saying it was. They're passing

439
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<v Speaker 3>it off as just a socialite club. What I think

440
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<v Speaker 3>that these guys were up to taps into this bigger

441
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<v Speaker 3>plot of woo one world order because because these guys

442
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<v Speaker 3>were in all these older orders, you know, and they

443
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<v Speaker 3>were working with occult doctrines that go clear back to

444
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<v Speaker 3>Babylon and Greece, that's where you see that that influence

445
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<v Speaker 3>popping up. And uh, you know, if you wanted to

446
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<v Speaker 3>look into this more like Manly p All breaks all

447
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:44.400
<v Speaker 3>this down really well in his book Secret Destiny of America.

448
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<v Speaker 3>He goes into this order of secret men who have

449
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<v Speaker 3>been at work throughout the ages, and basically we just

450
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<v Speaker 3>live on their timeline and they hide the truth from us,

451
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<v Speaker 3>and and basically we believe whatever version of that truth

452
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<v Speaker 3>data tell us. That's the society of Cincinnati.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right. So I on my other podcast on

454
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<v Speaker 2>Meta Mysteries, I had on his understudy who's still alive,

455
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<v Speaker 2>and his name is Ronnie Pontiac. Fucking awesome guy. He

456
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<v Speaker 2>looks like he was in a like a seventies or

457
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<v Speaker 2>eighties hairband back in the day. I actually think that

458
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<v Speaker 2>he was, but really really knowledgeable about a lot of

459
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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff, so much so that Malely P

460
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.839
<v Speaker 2>Hall was he was like Manley P Hall's right hand man.

461
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<v Speaker 2>He Manly P Hall paid for him and his girlfriend

462
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<v Speaker 2>soon to be wife. Well they're married now, but he

463
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 2>paid for their wedding and was like like a really

464
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<v Speaker 2>really big deal in it. And so I'm good. We're

465
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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to get old Ronnie Pontiac on this show

466
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<v Speaker 2>because this is not a book that I've heard of

467
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<v Speaker 2>the only I mean, I know that he wrote more

468
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<v Speaker 2>than one book, many p but I was only aware

469
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<v Speaker 2>of the Secret Teachings for All Ages. So that's crazy.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's cool, and points right back to this.

471
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<v Speaker 3>There's clearly there was some sort of a pre existing

472
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<v Speaker 3>a Colt order around and kicking prior to the beginning

473
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<v Speaker 3>of this nation. And I'm saying there may have been

474
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<v Speaker 3>a couple of them, but I'm saying definitely society as

475
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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati was. And this bled through just everything about the

476
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:20.039
<v Speaker 3>beginnings of America and and are down to our cities themselves.

477
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<v Speaker 3>Like Cincinnati, the city was named after the Secret Society.

478
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<v Speaker 3>Washington had a big hand in building that city, and

479
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<v Speaker 3>I think they had bigger plans for Cincinnati than it

480
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:34.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of the way it turned out like although it

481
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:39.279
<v Speaker 3>was it was very powerful in its day. But going

482
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<v Speaker 3>back to the mounds and these tipples I've been talking

483
00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:45.160
<v Speaker 3>about that have been covered up here, there was Cincinnati

484
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:49.720
<v Speaker 3>was an ancient city before they built Cincinnati on top.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Of Oh dude, they got more mountains in Ohio than

486
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<v Speaker 2>any other state. Yeah, yeah, so checks out why they Yeah.

487
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<v Speaker 3>They built Cincinnati on top of whatever the builders had

488
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<v Speaker 3>already built there. And I mean this goes back thousands

489
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<v Speaker 3>of thousands of years. Washington just moved in and you know,

490
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<v Speaker 3>I would argue they kicked out the native people that

491
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.119
<v Speaker 3>were there at the time, but the natives got it

492
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<v Speaker 3>from the giants or whoever those people were. They they

493
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:18.400
<v Speaker 3>seemed some of them were giants because there were giants

494
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<v Speaker 3>in the mounds. But get this, Washington, like Cincinnati, the

495
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.160
<v Speaker 3>city as a location because it was already an ancient

496
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.240
<v Speaker 3>place and it was kind of mystical in that regard.

497
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<v Speaker 3>But it also had seven hills, like.

498
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Rome, here we go, all right, So.

499
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<v Speaker 3>That, like I said, they're obsessed with those etruscans man

500
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:43.519
<v Speaker 3>And eventually they found another place with seven hills, and

501
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:46.799
<v Speaker 3>that was Washington, d C. But they had big plans

502
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 3>for Cincinnati. And you know, if you look into it,

503
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.279
<v Speaker 3>like the four ancient people lived in Cincinnati since like

504
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.000
<v Speaker 3>nine hundred da d at least they were probably descendants

505
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<v Speaker 3>of the mound builders.

506
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<v Speaker 2>So well, it's, uh, it's interesting whenever you think about

507
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 2>it too, because I always thought so like for example,

508
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I you know, if you go to a certain state,

509
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 2>you're always like, why is this city the capital? It

510
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:14.599
<v Speaker 2>makes no sense, Like, you know, Pennsylvania's weird about that,

511
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Baton Rouge. I don't think should be the capital New Orleans.

512
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows New Orleans as like the capital. I mean

513
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you would think it's like the biggest city and so.

514
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>And I always thought that same way about Philadelphia. Well

515
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>why wasn't Philadelphia the United States capital and not Washington DC?

516
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, like because you hear so many stories out

517
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>of there, just historically and stuff like that. And I'm

518
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.200
<v Speaker 2>not a super huge history nerd or whatever, but it

519
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>would make sense that you would want to found your

520
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 2>nation's capital on the top of Seven Hills as opposed

521
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 2>to just over there in Philly.

522
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 4>So Philly was for a while. Then you hear stories

523
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.599
<v Speaker 4>that like Boston was where the founding fotherers met for

524
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 4>a while. New Amsterdam later called New York was another

525
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.759
<v Speaker 4>spot that was being questioned about it. Right, George Washington

526
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 4>chose the city of DC itself allegedly quote unquote italicized

527
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Speaker 4>underlined because it was between Maryland and Virginia. It was

528
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 4>like the perfect blend of the northern colonies to the

529
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 4>southern colonies and all these things. However, the whole Seven

530
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.400
<v Speaker 4>Hills conversation absolutely needs to be talked about, right and

531
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 4>to your point about Cincinnati and the Mound Builders, if

532
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.759
<v Speaker 4>you will. There's even other secret societies that date back, well,

533
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.359
<v Speaker 4>date back quote unquote at least their teachings date back.

534
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 4>The Society of Red Men, or it later became the

535
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:43.160
<v Speaker 4>Improved Order of the Red Man, an organization completely comprised

536
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 4>of white dudes, white aristocratic dudes that would wear buckskin pants,

537
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 4>full feather headdress, as if they were Native Americans and

538
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 4>would like teach the esoteric ways of the Native Americans,

539
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 4>not allowing any Native Americans to join, by the way,

540
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.640
<v Speaker 4>because like that would be fucking preposterous. But they were

541
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 4>all about the esoteric knowledge that the Red Men had.

542
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Now again, very small section of them, we're talking about

543
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 4>like the Iroquois nations. What we're talking about them.

544
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Was this roughly what time was this secret society around

545
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 3>this is?

546
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:14.200
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

547
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 4>Hell, I think they were founded. I could be wrong.

548
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.480
<v Speaker 4>It's been in mind since I go. We're just eighty eight, okay,

549
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 4>and I think they finally they like revised themselves around

550
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 4>like the eighteen eighties. Maybe well, I don't think they're

551
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.000
<v Speaker 4>around anymore today, but yeah, that was one.

552
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Of those I've suspected that to be the case because

553
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 3>somebody came in here and got a hold of the

554
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 3>knowledge that the Native Americans have and brought it into

555
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 3>their cloak. They you know, their secret order, and they

556
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 3>utilize And I think that's a nice example of proof

557
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 3>of that, because make no mistake, these guys were obsessed

558
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 3>with these mounds. The Society of Cincinnati when they found

559
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:57.079
<v Speaker 3>that location they came across an ancient city that was there.

560
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 3>Now we're not told about this, so I know this

561
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 3>is going to come as a surprise most people. What

562
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 3>these guys did was they flooded and they destroyed, and

563
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 3>they built over the mounds and the earthworks and pyramids

564
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 3>because there were pyramids here too, and they erected buildings

565
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.599
<v Speaker 3>on the foundations of all this. And like that guy

566
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.880
<v Speaker 3>JJ Vance who I was talking about, he found a

567
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 3>map of a mound complex slash city slash temple underneath

568
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 3>the East Fork Lake outside of Cincinnati. So they there

569
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 3>is a cover up here, Like not only did they

570
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.599
<v Speaker 3>build on top of the ancient city, but they flooded

571
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.319
<v Speaker 3>some of it and just left it underwater.

572
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:37.759
<v Speaker 4>Dude.

573
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<v Speaker 2>And how about Washington Their football team for the longest

574
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>time was the Redskins. You know, I wonder if that

575
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:44.759
<v Speaker 2>plays into any event.

576
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, yeah, the first, the first baseball team comes

577
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 3>out of Cincinnati and they that if you look into

578
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:54.759
<v Speaker 3>baseball that was built there was a bunch of Freemasons

579
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 3>who were throwing a ball from an Indian mound. Yeah.

580
00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

581
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 2>We actually covered this a while ago about how baseball

582
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 2>is extremely Masonic, like.

583
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 4>E extremely Masonic.

584
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>And then you got the Cincinnati and you got the

585
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Reds, right and yeah, and then there was the

586
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Indians. It's like, it's all over the fucking place, dude.

587
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 3>The star forts play a part in this story as well,

588
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 3>I've found and uh, you know, there are connections to

589
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 3>Pittsburgh here that I'd like to get into if if

590
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 3>we can at some point.

591
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 2>But like, oh, you're pulling up my heartstrings. Now that's

592
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>my home, that's my home right thereby.

593
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, it's the second home to me as well.

594
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Pittsburgh had a fort at the very tip of the

595
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 3>city that the peninsula that the downtown was built on.

596
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 2>With the three rivers.

597
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a star fort there. It was one

598
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 3>of those in Cincinnati as well. Washington and the boys

599
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.839
<v Speaker 3>knew about this. Washington knew about the one in Pittsburgh. Uh,

600
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 3>and he knew about the one at Cincinnati. And they

601
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 3>actually called the one in Cincinnati Fort Washington first. But

602
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 3>here's the thing, that Starboard was there all ready. It

603
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 3>probably predated the Native Americans. Some old culture built that there.

604
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 3>They just came in and named it and like inhabited it.

605
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 3>And what they did was Washington had people already at

606
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Fort pitt at the tip of Pittsburgh. He took some

607
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 3>of those people and just brought him over to Fort

608
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Washington and Cincinnati. Yep, that's the star Ford man.

609
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, dude, that is right where like the Steelers Stadium.

610
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to call it Akrochure, It's Hinsfield. It

611
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>will always be Hinesfield, the big ketchup bottle. But that's

612
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>where all of the stadiums are. And that is that's

613
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>right at the rate at the tip of the Alleghany,

614
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Monongahela and the Ohio River.

615
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've never understood the whole thing with the star

616
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.839
<v Speaker 4>Ford situation from somebody who's who is a military background

617
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 4>and understands the basis of how artillery works. Star forards

618
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 4>makes sense that they would build that because hard angles

619
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 4>make it difficult for cannonballs to break it. It's a

620
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 4>ricochet thing. But to your point about mounds in Ohio,

621
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 4>have y'all heard of the Hope Well Ceremonial site.

622
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Hey, Jonathan, can you leave this up. I'm gonna

623
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:11.160
<v Speaker 3>tell you something about it in a minute.

624
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the Hope Well Ceremonial site. If we're going to

625
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 4>talk about sacred geometry being used by the native peoples,

626
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 4>and a site where, at least that we know of,

627
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 4>twelve if not twenty, if not thirty, different tribes of

628
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 4>different linguistic backgrounds all came to this one location to

629
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 4>perform their yearly ceremonies and rituals. Damn near a pilgrimage

630
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 4>site for Native Americans. And that is in Ohio. So

631
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 4>when we're talking about these types of things in the

632
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 4>mountain builders, there's absolutely a lot to go on here.

633
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:43.200
<v Speaker 4>For sure.

634
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.400
<v Speaker 3>There's a connection for sure, so to deal with this.

635
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.359
<v Speaker 3>And there were mounds here too, they're just been leveled.

636
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 3>There was forts, mounds and ancient city like real cities.

637
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking about tepees and fires. These people built cities.

638
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Charity did to now to deal with this four is

639
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 3>I've looked into this. Okay, this for I'm telling everybody,

640
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 3>maybe for the first time ever right here, right now,

641
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:13.400
<v Speaker 3>this fort is way older. The fort at the tip

642
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 3>of Pittsburgh is way older than they're telling us. They

643
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.239
<v Speaker 3>say that this they date this back to seventeen fifty four.

644
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 3>They say the French got it going. They say it

645
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 3>was Fort pitt Now, I guess they called Fort Pitt. Now,

646
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 3>but before that, they say, in seventeen fifty four it

647
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 3>was established as Fort Ducaine. But if you do some digging,

648
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 3>they say, oh, well, you know there was an older

649
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:42.440
<v Speaker 3>fort there before Ducaine, called Fort Prince George. Oh. And

650
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.320
<v Speaker 3>if you do more digging, they're like, oh, yeah, well

651
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 3>there was an old one before that. It's it's older,

652
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 3>it's called Fort Trent. So that just keeps going back.

653
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 3>There's no origin story for this place. It's like it's

654
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 3>always been there. And they today what they tell you

655
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.320
<v Speaker 3>is that it was fifteen I'm sorry, seventeen fifty four,

656
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 3>and and they go with that date because that's where

657
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 3>they choose to start the story.

658
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 4>He said, Fort Prince George, Yes, it was just searched

659
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 4>it up. That's in South Carolina. Where is this Fort

660
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 4>Pitt located? There was thirteen fifty three of Fort Prince George,

661
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 4>South Carolina.

662
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there were there were two. They called this one

663
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Fort Prince George at one time as well.

664
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 4>God so okay, okay.

665
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 3>You see that with Fort uh low Down or Loudon.

666
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.800
<v Speaker 3>You see that as well. There was one in Virginia

667
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 3>and there was one in Tennessee, which yea. So it

668
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 3>and it gets kind of weird as to why they

669
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 3>were shifting names around like that too. Usually there's giants

670
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 3>or stuff they don't want you to know about involved.

671
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.199
<v Speaker 3>So they may have actually had a purpose for naming

672
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 3>a place with the same name twice that which is

673
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:51.320
<v Speaker 3>involved with the cover up. I'm not sure, but that

674
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 3>seems to be anyways.

675
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Let's say, can you can you delve into what you

676
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>believe these star forards actually were for I know a

677
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of people they like to think they like to

678
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>go into the portal. Uh kind of conversation, energy kind

679
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>of conversation. Could it be some kind of structure for

680
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 2>the aliens to see or for spirits to come down,

681
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>or some kind of jazz or what do you think

682
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.159
<v Speaker 2>is really going on with these I'm just gonna.

683
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 3>Push all my shifts in and say all the above.

684
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Noy, why maybe?

685
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:28.320
<v Speaker 3>But maybe, but maybe man something there's something sacred about them.

686
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:33.119
<v Speaker 3>There's you know, sacred geometries involved, placement is involved. We

687
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 3>know that the ancient people knew about what we call

688
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 3>ley lines today. It's not that big of a stretch

689
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 3>to think that there's an any energy grid here that

690
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 3>they knew about. And we're tapping into these sites were

691
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 3>connected for me, what they were used for possibly, I'm

692
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.079
<v Speaker 3>not I'm still working on that, but definitely forification, but

693
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 3>also maybe something sacred, maybe some sort of a temple

694
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 3>complex as well. But for me, what they what they

695
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 3>represented is that they are indicators that there's an ancient

696
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:12.800
<v Speaker 3>civilization there where there was an ancient civilization there. Like

697
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 3>if you see a peninsula with a starfar at the tip,

698
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 3>that indicates that you're dealing with an ancient city that

699
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 3>we haven't been told about there. They tend to be

700
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 3>at the confluence of waterways. I had a guy named

701
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 3>Rick osmon On. He talks about when he found an

702
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 3>Indiana at the ConfL You know, there's one at the

703
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 3>tip of Manhattan that nobody talks about. So there's no

704
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 3>wonder Manhattan became a city. It's there's a place as

705
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 3>a tip of Manhattan called Castle Clinton.

706
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it.

707
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Just it's got a weird history. They say it starts

708
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 3>in eighteen oh six, but it goes back San Francisco,

709
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.199
<v Speaker 3>very defensible place with a star forar called Fort Point,

710
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.079
<v Speaker 3>right at the tip of a piece of land there.

711
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 3>JT was telling me about one that he found on

712
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 3>a map from the fifteen hundreds that goes back to

713
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:12.559
<v Speaker 3>the first colony of North Carolina, Roanoke Island. It seems

714
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 3>that those people came over here and came straight to

715
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.880
<v Speaker 3>a star Forard that was already here, a pre existing

716
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:21.280
<v Speaker 3>star Ford that they knew about.

717
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Think about that, dude, all right? So I was just

718
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it, and I like to ask my Jarvis

719
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 2>about these things aka chatchi et.

720
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Of course, you do your fucking ai god that you worship.

721
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't worship anybody, Okay, I just want to make

722
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 2>that clear. Secondly, so I was because I was like,

723
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 2>all right, well, star Ford, I wonder if that has

724
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 2>anything to do with like a pentagram per se, Right,

725
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.000
<v Speaker 2>if you really think about it, like all of DC

726
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:50.639
<v Speaker 2>is laid out like a pentagram, and then you got

727
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the star Forards. Obviously, could this be the precursor to it?

728
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:58.159
<v Speaker 2>And I found something quite interesting So as far as

729
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 2>a cult protection in siritual defense. Now, I know this's

730
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna sound kind of wild, but this could have been

731
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.159
<v Speaker 2>how they were thinking. We don't know. It says in

732
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:11.599
<v Speaker 2>magical traditions, stars and pentagrams are used for protection, warding

733
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 2>off evil or negative Energies, says star forts may have

734
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>doubled as ritual wards, protecting not only from physical invaders

735
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:21.840
<v Speaker 2>but from spiritual threats. This is where it gets interesting

736
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.119
<v Speaker 2>right here, though, Think of them as sigils on earth.

737
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Each each fort is a giant talisman. Now you want

738
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:34.519
<v Speaker 2>to talk about using a fucking talisman of like most

739
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 2>people wear a talisman around their neck, just a little

740
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 2>necklist or maybe you got like a little sigil type

741
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>talisman or whatever you keep on your desk or whatever.

742
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 2>This is in the land on specific lay lines, in

743
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 2>very strategic places. If this is like an act, like,

744
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 2>I almost want to believe that this is the giant talisman.

745
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's what's going on here.

746
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.599
<v Speaker 3>Dude, I do too. And I should have said that

747
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 3>before when I said sacred gieometry, I should have gone

748
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 3>into detail about what I meant by that. I meant

749
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.519
<v Speaker 3>that I think that those are talismans, big, big talismans.

750
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.880
<v Speaker 3>I think you see it in Florida if you look

751
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 3>up a big Tony's mound. Now it's not a star,

752
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 3>but it's a talisman that these people placed carved into

753
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:21.159
<v Speaker 3>the landscape. This is a male complex. Nobody ever talks

754
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:26.960
<v Speaker 3>about it looks like something. It's that's it. Look at

755
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:28.960
<v Speaker 3>that thing, man, it looks like.

756
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 4>The sow east out west. What is this?

757
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:33.559
<v Speaker 3>It's in down near the Everglades.

758
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 4>I believe in Florida.

759
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes, yes, so that's my questionman, that's a talisman

760
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:39.719
<v Speaker 3>in my.

761
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 4>Opinion, I'm not even denying that, right. These earthen mounds

762
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:47.440
<v Speaker 4>that were made by Native peoples. Allegedly they didn't have shovels,

763
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 4>they didn't have backos. They were doing it with sticks

764
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 4>and mud, and they could had no way of seeing

765
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 4>what it would look like from the air. But somehow

766
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:57.480
<v Speaker 4>they were able to make these perfect sheaps. I'm with you.

767
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 4>My question is why do we only see them in

768
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.360
<v Speaker 4>super heavily populated white people areas, Like why don't we

769
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.719
<v Speaker 4>see mounds in Montana or Dakota that was like super

770
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 4>heavily populated by the Lakota people. Like these mounds and

771
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 4>these star forts only happen in places where white people

772
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 4>decided were a good defensive structure.

773
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well where do they Who do they take them from?

774
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Though? No, no, no, I'm not saying to take them,

775
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:25.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying built them. Like why do we only find

776
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 4>not even built them find them. Why do we only

777
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 4>find them in places where white people thought would be

778
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 4>a decent logistical, if not defensive spot too.

779
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, these things, I mean back you're talking about back

780
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.039
<v Speaker 2>in a time when like slavery was a thing.

781
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:40.239
<v Speaker 4>Bro.

782
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 2>So it's gonna be majority white people that are in

783
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:43.280
<v Speaker 2>charge of this shit.

784
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 3>It goes back to the society of Cincinnati. In my opinion,

785
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 3>this is where they settled on places like this because

786
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 3>the magic was already there.

787
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.400
<v Speaker 4>It was like, okay, so pre dat in the society

788
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 4>of Cincinnati, right before before the Europeans ever made their

789
00:41:57.159 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 4>way to North America. Because you're saying these things pre

790
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 4>date colonialism, they predate the first white people ever get

791
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:06.639
<v Speaker 4>into this continent. And I'm with you, So why don't

792
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 4>we see them in the Midwest.

793
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, they had something out there called medicine giant medicine wheels.

794
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 3>But people who were in I think four corners of

795
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:22.079
<v Speaker 3>Arizona region had a place they called Star City and

796
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 3>they had a medicine wheel and a temple up there.

797
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 3>And what they would do is they would go up

798
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.079
<v Speaker 3>to the high places like you read about in the Bible,

799
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.079
<v Speaker 3>because there's some sort of connection on top of mountains

800
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 3>to the other side. They would go up there and

801
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 3>they would do their rituals, and the star people would

802
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 3>come down and visit them. You see that out west

803
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 3>more so than just mounds. They had a different It's

804
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 3>almost like they had a different way or a different

805
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.039
<v Speaker 3>culture about doing it. But even down to the star

806
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.960
<v Speaker 3>thing you're talking about. We were talking about the shape

807
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.119
<v Speaker 3>of the star right that that symbolizes the path of

808
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:57.679
<v Speaker 3>Venus in the night sky. The path of Venus is

809
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:02.039
<v Speaker 3>a pentagram, and Venus is ishtar.

810
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, you're drawing you're drawing comparisons here that I'm

811
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 4>not sure I've heard before. Break that down. Well, the

812
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 4>path of Venus is in the planet in the sky

813
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:14.440
<v Speaker 4>is the path of a pentagram?

814
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it makes an eight pointed star. I believe it

815
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 3>is the path of Venus over the course of I

816
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 3>don't remember how long, a couple, like maybe six months.

817
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 4>I think we talked about this the other day. It's

818
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.800
<v Speaker 4>like eighty eight days on Earth is a or that

819
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 4>was a Mercury year. Excuse me, I'm not sure what

820
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.360
<v Speaker 4>a Venus year is. But okay, so you're saying that

821
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:35.440
<v Speaker 4>it makes a pentagram, is a five pointed start, you're

822
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:36.639
<v Speaker 4>saying an eight pointed.

823
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:42.079
<v Speaker 3>Maybe, I think it's I think it's a points within

824
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.599
<v Speaker 3>the pentagram as well that helped make it. But anyways,

825
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:48.519
<v Speaker 3>it is whatever a pentagram is, it makes a pentagram.

826
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 3>I remember like studying that and researching that. And Venus

827
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 3>is associated with ishtar. And if you look at the

828
00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 3>people who the people who were here before our founding fathers,

829
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.000
<v Speaker 3>they were really into goddess worship, and so were the

830
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Founding fathers, and ishtar plays a big role in that

831
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 3>ish tar they had. The Native Americans had a version

832
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 3>of ishtar here called it uh chai i x c

833
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Speaker 3>h A I think is what it's called. It's or Ostara,

834
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 3>like the Germanic version is Ostara.

835
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.440
<v Speaker 4>And that was the magazine that Hitler got down with

836
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.480
<v Speaker 4>really heavily and then decided, Nah, I'm not about the

837
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.079
<v Speaker 4>star shit. I'm gonna do my own Nazi thing. But yeah,

838
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:31.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you.

839
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.079
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, that's a weird rabbit hole. I didn't mean

840
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 3>to take us down that, but I'm just I'm just

841
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:39.199
<v Speaker 3>trying to say that there's goddess worship and intergrained in

842
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.519
<v Speaker 3>all this, and it wasn't just the Europeans who had

843
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:47.079
<v Speaker 3>ishtar or the Middle Eastern people they had ishtar inanna Astara,

844
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Germanic people had Ostara, uh, and the Native Americans had

845
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 3>this Kscha character. And it's if you look into it,

846
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:56.519
<v Speaker 3>it's all the same goddess. And I think she had

847
00:44:56.559 --> 00:45:00.159
<v Speaker 3>something to do with these asient sites as well. But

848
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.559
<v Speaker 3>you know there were cities here, right, Charleston was a

849
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 3>star fort first that became a very important, you know,

850
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 3>coastal city.

851
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

852
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 3>They actually fortified a city around Charleston. And that those

853
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.760
<v Speaker 3>walls are now buried underneath Charles and like six to

854
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:20.320
<v Speaker 3>eight feet How it got buried, I don't know, but

855
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.079
<v Speaker 3>you just see this time and time again. A lot

856
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:26.320
<v Speaker 3>of our major cities were ancient civilizations and they had

857
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 3>star forts there. It's it's the darnest thing.

858
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Some to it, dude, like this is old school ritual

859
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 2>occult type shit. They knew that. It's like harnessing. There's

860
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:41.400
<v Speaker 2>they find so many different ways to harness so many

861
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 2>different powers and energies and everything that they can. And

862
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people will probably think that

863
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>that's woo woo, that's crazy whatever. But there's some dude,

864
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>look into the thirty third parallel, and see how many

865
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:56.239
<v Speaker 2>crazy things are on the fucking thirty third parallel, And

866
00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's just all over the place. Like there, there's

867
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.840
<v Speaker 2>it's it's different wherever you go. Like anybody who's ever

868
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 2>lived in more than one state, dude, I'm talking about

869
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 2>like I lived the majority, well, no longer the majority.

870
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:13.679
<v Speaker 2>I lived a large percentage of my life in Pennsylvania.

871
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 2>I moved down to Louisiana.

872
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 4>It was you.

873
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 2>It was basically a different world. Like I'm talking about.

874
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>The food's different, the the people are different, the air

875
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:28.119
<v Speaker 2>is different, the sun is different, literally every single I love.

876
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:30.920
<v Speaker 3>New Orleans is one of my favorite places to go.

877
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Ever, right, and now I live in Texas and it's

878
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.239
<v Speaker 2>way off from even both of those, you know. So

879
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like, I think that there has to be something

880
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.519
<v Speaker 2>about the the the energy as far as the grid

881
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of goes.

882
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Bro, I'll hit you with one right now that's coming

883
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:48.320
<v Speaker 3>to mind, And you're absolutely right, because there was a

884
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 3>grid here. They knew about it and they knew how

885
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:55.519
<v Speaker 3>to utilize it. There was if you look at Saint

886
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Louis and these people knew about like grids, they knew

887
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 3>about the Layalneses stuff like that. I think that they

888
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.559
<v Speaker 3>got it from the mountain builders, and I think the

889
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Native Americans were able to retain some of that knowledge.

890
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 3>And a good example of it is is Cokia Mound

891
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 3>outside of Saint Louis. Kahokia, Kahokia, c Ak, yeah, c

892
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 3>ak something else Kahokia.

893
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean we're talking Native American language. Our spelling of

894
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 4>it is gonna do it injustice. But I'm with you

895
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 4>Cook in Saint Louis, I.

896
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Think it's c ak i a or o a something

897
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 3>like that. But yeah, it's proof to me that there

898
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:40.559
<v Speaker 3>are our cities are older than what we're told. Yeah,

899
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:44.000
<v Speaker 3>there's Monks Bound. That's Monk's Mound right there. That's a

900
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 3>part of this mount complex. Look how big that is.

901
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 3>It's it's mass huge.

902
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.559
<v Speaker 4>Looks like this type of is tech pyramid if I've

903
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:51.280
<v Speaker 4>ever seen one.

904
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, And they won't let people get in there

905
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:55.599
<v Speaker 3>and excavate. There could be a temple in there, there

906
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 3>could be a whole who knows what in there, like

907
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.280
<v Speaker 3>a whole I don't know, civilization or remnants of one

908
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:01.599
<v Speaker 3>in there.

909
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Dude. I wonder if you know as far as what

910
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 2>could possibly be in the mounds and stuff. I know

911
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people speculate that it could be bones

912
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 2>of giants or and I'm not even saying that that's

913
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.320
<v Speaker 2>not what it is. I have no idea, but there

914
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 2>were I think there there was like this. I heard

915
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>about this not that long ago, but it was a

916
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I guess people like researchers or something like that went

917
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.280
<v Speaker 2>down to Brazil and we're talking to like this native

918
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 2>tribe in Brazil and they were showing them pictures of aliens,

919
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:34.239
<v Speaker 2>and those people down in Brazil, they go, oh, they

920
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.039
<v Speaker 2>don't come from there. They're the ant people, Like those

921
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>are the people that are underground, and they've known about this,

922
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.880
<v Speaker 2>like for generations and generations. So it almost makes me wonder,

923
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 2>is this mound something that was built not on not

924
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>just to have like a structure above ground, but could

925
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 2>this have been dirt that was dug up from beneath

926
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.719
<v Speaker 2>for that purpose, like an underground type of town or

927
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:57.159
<v Speaker 2>a temple or something like that.

928
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:02.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Agartha right, or the Cherokee had the legends of

929
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 3>the inner Earth little people, and yeah, a lot of

930
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.440
<v Speaker 3>these ancient cultures believed that there was an entrance to

931
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 3>the earth and that there were people living there. I mean,

932
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.119
<v Speaker 3>the moon eyed people of Tennessee is a good example.

933
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Like they were. The story's gotten twisted. People are saying

934
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.039
<v Speaker 3>they had blue eyes and all that. But I went

935
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.280
<v Speaker 3>back and looked, and honestly, the Cherokee said they had

936
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 3>black eyes, indicating that they were nocturnal, indicating that they

937
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:31.440
<v Speaker 3>probably came out of the ground. They lived underground, and

938
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.159
<v Speaker 3>it came up at night because they couldn't see during

939
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:38.199
<v Speaker 3>the daytime. Their eyes weren't didn't adapt to daylight or something.

940
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:41.920
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, you see this like sprinkled across antiquity, this

941
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.199
<v Speaker 3>inner Earth concept. But let me hit you with this

942
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:48.599
<v Speaker 3>man this mound Kahokia. This was an ancient city. It

943
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 3>goes back probably I think they say fourteen thousand years,

944
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe longer. This is what Saint Louis was built on. This.

945
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:03.800
<v Speaker 3>If you draw a straight line, this connects to a

946
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:09.239
<v Speaker 3>huge mound in Moundsville, West Virginia. And uh, then it

947
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 3>goes all the way to the coast and it connects

948
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 3>to this tower out there called Newport Tower. It's another

949
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 3>ancient place and and the Newport Tower was uh I

950
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 3>think it's I think it's associated with maybe even like

951
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Scandinavian people who came here way before Columbus, because there's

952
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 3>there were ruins on it.

953
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 4>Where is Newport Loke, I know of Newport, Virginia.

954
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:38.239
<v Speaker 3>Newport Tower. Is it Connecticut? It's in one of those

955
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:39.599
<v Speaker 3>little New England places.

956
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.199
<v Speaker 4>Let's check it out, Newport Tower.

957
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.719
<v Speaker 3>But it's connected tord.

958
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 4>Oh god Rhode Island, one of the only things there,

959
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:48.840
<v Speaker 4>I might add.

960
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:51.800
<v Speaker 3>But so, and that thing is bigger than it looks

961
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:53.199
<v Speaker 3>like in the pictures.

962
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:57.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, try and find a decent picture that.

963
00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Looks like an ancient grain silo that they just like

964
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.000
<v Speaker 4>quit building. But I could tell it's not like how cool.

965
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 3>That looks though it had Norse ruins, Oh it had.

966
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:11.840
<v Speaker 3>It's connected maybe to the Kensington Ruinstone, which.

967
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Would make stend makes sense if we're talking about Scandinavian

968
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:16.079
<v Speaker 2>m But.

969
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:21.280
<v Speaker 3>It's connected on a grid and invisible grid to Kahokia

970
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Mound and Mounainsville, West Virginia, which is the which is

971
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:29.320
<v Speaker 3>the site of the Grave Creek tablet that mysteriously went missing.

972
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.880
<v Speaker 3>They pulled a tablet out of Grave Creek Round Mound

973
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:38.239
<v Speaker 3>in West Virginia that had Iberian Phoenician on it. So

974
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.440
<v Speaker 3>what we're talking about here is many different cultures who

975
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:46.119
<v Speaker 3>were over here working together potentially, like like there was

976
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.440
<v Speaker 3>a cub of there was a hub of commerce here.

977
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 3>And I think it goes back to the copper mines actually,

978
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:56.159
<v Speaker 3>because you know, we know that all that tons of

979
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:59.840
<v Speaker 3>copper is missing from the Great Lakes. Uh, these people

980
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:02.559
<v Speaker 3>were coming over here in mine and copper people from

981
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:03.679
<v Speaker 3>the Middle East even.

982
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.599
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean the Natives didn't have much use for copper.

983
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:12.119
<v Speaker 4>There's very few examples of them needing it. However, if

984
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.639
<v Speaker 4>some other people from a whole nother place who knew

985
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Speaker 4>what copper was, especially if we're talking about the Bronze

986
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.639
<v Speaker 4>Age or even further, knew what this substance was and

987
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:24.719
<v Speaker 4>knew how to utilize it, it would make sense that

988
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:26.920
<v Speaker 4>they would have came here to mine it for their

989
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.440
<v Speaker 4>purposes one hundred percent, because I mean the Natives are

990
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:34.880
<v Speaker 4>using flint and like making chirt arrowheads up until the

991
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 4>Civil War, I mean even further than that actually, So yeah,

992
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.599
<v Speaker 4>they didn't really have the need to go mining because

993
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:45.639
<v Speaker 4>they were cool with surface level shit. I could take

994
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 4>a rock and break it into whatever I need, So

995
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 4>why would I dig in deeper? You know what I mean.

996
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the natives were using the copper because it was

997
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:55.800
<v Speaker 3>at one point it was so plentiful. They could just

998
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:58.559
<v Speaker 3>go and pick it up off the ground, and you know, copper,

999
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.599
<v Speaker 3>you can kind of hammer it into whatever shape you

1000
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 3>need it for, and it's a conductor. But I think

1001
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.400
<v Speaker 3>what's telling for me that has to do with copper

1002
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.920
<v Speaker 3>is a lot of these giants that were pulled out

1003
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:12.880
<v Speaker 3>of the burial mounds were adorned with copper beads and

1004
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:17.400
<v Speaker 3>copper bracelets. That tells me that these giants and this

1005
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 3>mountain builder group of people were associated with the copper mining.

1006
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:28.039
<v Speaker 3>They probably made their livelihood off of it. You know,

1007
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 3>we found all these old ships off the Mississis. They

1008
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:33.599
<v Speaker 3>were using the Mississippi like a great, a giant highway

1009
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.800
<v Speaker 3>to get our great great lakes. And we found ships,

1010
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Phoenician ships buried on the banks of the Mississippi River.

1011
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.119
<v Speaker 3>So the Phoenicians were definitely coming here.

1012
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:47.360
<v Speaker 4>I've never heard that before. Brother, You're blowing my mind

1013
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:47.960
<v Speaker 4>with that one.

1014
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I'll try to send you the arcle. I

1015
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.239
<v Speaker 3>don't have it with me. I have an article somewhere

1016
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 3>on my phone, but I don't have it like at

1017
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:59.440
<v Speaker 3>arms length right now. But there's another article that they

1018
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 3>just found a Canaanite ship that dates back to a

1019
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.400
<v Speaker 3>long time ago. I don't remember the exact dates. I

1020
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:09.920
<v Speaker 3>could probably find it here, and that indicates that the

1021
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:13.519
<v Speaker 3>Canaanites were coming over here too. They were seafaring. There

1022
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 3>were always seafaring people coming over here. And uh, I mean,

1023
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I think if I was to go back to this

1024
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 3>society of Cincinnati, I think these guys knew about this.

1025
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.920
<v Speaker 3>And it just so much stuff has happened between now

1026
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.559
<v Speaker 3>and then to get in the way of this history,

1027
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:36.599
<v Speaker 3>to kind of off escape this history. And one of

1028
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:39.880
<v Speaker 3>those I think is George Washington. And I think that

1029
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:44.000
<v Speaker 3>he because I think by him driving out the natives

1030
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 3>and putting cities on the mound sites, and then then

1031
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:53.480
<v Speaker 3>later the Smithsonian coming in and clearing up everything else,

1032
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:56.320
<v Speaker 3>hiding everything else, we just don't have a good picture

1033
00:54:56.480 --> 00:55:00.280
<v Speaker 3>of what actually went down here. And like like Washington,

1034
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:04.119
<v Speaker 3>like he so he you know, he he was responsible

1035
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 3>for clearing out the valley that Pittsburgh's in right now.

1036
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:09.119
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

1037
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:14.519
<v Speaker 3>I found this recently in research. He was down there.

1038
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:16.880
<v Speaker 3>He worked for the British at one point. He was

1039
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.000
<v Speaker 3>he was fighting for the British. He was kind of

1040
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 3>like a mercenary for hire or something. But the natives

1041
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.760
<v Speaker 3>called him devourer of villages because he would come through

1042
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 3>and he would clear out a village. And that's what

1043
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 3>they did with this side at Pittsburgh. They came through

1044
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:34.719
<v Speaker 3>and they cleared the Natus off of it and built

1045
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.119
<v Speaker 3>a city there. George Washington, it goes straight to the top.

1046
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:39.800
<v Speaker 3>George Washington himself was a part of that cleanup.

1047
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 4>That's pretty crazy because I've done a decent amount of

1048
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:48.559
<v Speaker 4>digging into George Washington's military background. Right, so, before he

1049
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:50.960
<v Speaker 4>decided to be a part of the revolutionaries and all

1050
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:54.000
<v Speaker 4>these things, he was a British officer. Of course, says

1051
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:57.519
<v Speaker 4>most of the aristocratic class was before the colonies decided

1052
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 4>to break off into their own thing. And I know

1053
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:02.360
<v Speaker 4>that I get a lot of shit for this, but

1054
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:07.360
<v Speaker 4>Washington was a dog shit commander. Like he had a

1055
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:10.079
<v Speaker 4>handful of victories, and most of that was because the

1056
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 4>British overestimated their abilities and said, oh, these peasant farmers

1057
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 4>will never be able to stack up against us. Then

1058
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 4>they decided to start using guerrilla warfare and things with

1059
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, ol marian and things. This is the point

1060
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:24.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm gotting a whole tang on that. If you look

1061
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:30.599
<v Speaker 4>back at George Washington's British military history, it wasn't impressive

1062
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 4>at all. He was low to middle level management guy

1063
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:39.679
<v Speaker 4>who more often than not kind of led his men

1064
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:44.639
<v Speaker 4>into their own slaughter, if not ran and cowardice he had.

1065
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.760
<v Speaker 3>There was some nepotism involved with this too, because of.

1066
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:50.679
<v Speaker 4>Course we're talking about the aristocratic class of Britain, dude

1067
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 4>for sure.

1068
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 3>And dude, I don't know if you know about this,

1069
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:56.400
<v Speaker 3>but his his great grandfather was involved with this these

1070
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of activities too. So it was it was Tanna Cherison,

1071
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:03.519
<v Speaker 3>Airquois leader who started the French and Indian War, who

1072
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 3>gave George Washington the nickname Devour of Villages. But they

1073
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:10.599
<v Speaker 3>nicknamed him that because that is what they called his

1074
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.679
<v Speaker 3>great grandfather. George Washington's great grandfather was called the town

1075
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Destroyer eighty years earlier for his wrath on the natives.

1076
00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:22.159
<v Speaker 3>So the Washington family were like these kind of like

1077
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:24.599
<v Speaker 3>militia men who could who were known to be able

1078
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 3>to drive out villages, and they would send a guy

1079
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.360
<v Speaker 3>like Washington in to run off the natives to take

1080
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:33.159
<v Speaker 3>the land and to destroy the towns and to rebuild

1081
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:35.119
<v Speaker 3>on them. Stuff that fit the model of what they

1082
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:40.639
<v Speaker 3>wanted America to become. They were the original manifest destiny,

1083
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:45.199
<v Speaker 3>roadhouse conqueror. Guys, it's crazy what they did.

1084
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:48.760
<v Speaker 2>It checks out, especially whenever you're comparing it to today

1085
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:49.599
<v Speaker 2>in a sentence.

1086
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:53.639
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, and think about it, like later, when he

1087
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:58.000
<v Speaker 3>became the George Washington, he's in a position where he

1088
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.840
<v Speaker 3>could have the history retold. It's just like his biographers

1089
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:05.960
<v Speaker 3>they lie about that cherry tree story. That's bogus, that's

1090
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.760
<v Speaker 3>not even real. They just kind of rewrote a new

1091
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:13.079
<v Speaker 3>George Washington story that fits the narrative. And he became

1092
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.280
<v Speaker 3>such a powerful player in American history he had the

1093
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:19.320
<v Speaker 3>resources to rewrite history of this region and and tell

1094
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever version of that he wanted it to

1095
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:25.559
<v Speaker 3>be devour of villages. I never heard that in school, fellas,

1096
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 3>But that's dude.

1097
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:29.519
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing too, is that a lot of

1098
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.920
<v Speaker 2>people think that like conspiracies really only started within the

1099
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:35.639
<v Speaker 2>last one hundred years or so. I'm like, dude, this

1100
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.199
<v Speaker 2>shit goes back so far. They had to learn it

1101
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:41.119
<v Speaker 2>from somebody they knew how to be sisty. They knew

1102
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:43.880
<v Speaker 2>how to lie and cheat and steal and and and

1103
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:48.199
<v Speaker 2>blind people to what the actual truth was. Like, I

1104
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you just come over and take America

1105
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:56.280
<v Speaker 2>like like the way that they tell us, I mean, sure,

1106
00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, I don't really know history

1107
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.840
<v Speaker 2>as well as probably either one of you guys. But

1108
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:04.599
<v Speaker 2>whenever it comes to like stuff like that and you're

1109
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:08.960
<v Speaker 2>talking about the mounds and like all of the talismans

1110
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and the sigil work and the lay lines and stuff

1111
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:15.480
<v Speaker 2>like that, like this points to an occult class that

1112
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.519
<v Speaker 2>came over and knew what they were doing, and they

1113
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:24.039
<v Speaker 2>they were doing it. It was like spiritual warfare included,

1114
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, in just regular warfare, but you know, just

1115
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 2>out of curiosity. Whenever do you think that they were

1116
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Like whenever you're pulling on energy, let's just say from

1117
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:36.920
<v Speaker 2>a star Ford or from a lay line or something

1118
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:41.239
<v Speaker 2>like that. Now, I don't know what your spiritual or

1119
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:44.880
<v Speaker 2>religious affiliation or whatever is, but where do you think

1120
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.960
<v Speaker 2>that energy is coming from? Is that natural earth energy?

1121
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Is it pulling from the energy from down below? Is

1122
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 2>it like hellish energy? Like what do you think about

1123
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:56.639
<v Speaker 2>all that?

1124
00:59:57.800 --> 00:59:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1125
00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm a Christian, but I don't get all worked

1126
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:03.960
<v Speaker 3>up and been out of shape about crystals and earth

1127
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:06.360
<v Speaker 3>energies and stuff like that. I think they're just a

1128
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:09.719
<v Speaker 3>natural part of this plane or plane at or whatever

1129
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.280
<v Speaker 3>you want to consider. This is right, It's just a

1130
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 3>natural part of being here. It's just like the seasons,

1131
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.960
<v Speaker 3>the cycles of the seasons, and you know, like the

1132
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:21.559
<v Speaker 3>cicadas that come out of the ground once every x

1133
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:24.480
<v Speaker 3>amount of years, there's like a cycle, and there's like

1134
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:27.559
<v Speaker 3>a there's like a layout to things, and I think

1135
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:30.320
<v Speaker 3>part of that is just this energy grid. I don't

1136
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:32.159
<v Speaker 3>know that it's good or bad, but I'll tell you this,

1137
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:36.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it can be used for either or oh yeah,

1138
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 3>it can be harnessed.

1139
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like the old adage of millionaires don't use astrology,

1140
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:44.079
<v Speaker 2>but billionaires do. Yes, I mean they know about the

1141
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:47.440
<v Speaker 2>energies above. And whether you believe in the energies above

1142
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:51.920
<v Speaker 2>or not, I absolutely, like I almost know it to

1143
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.320
<v Speaker 2>be an absolute fact that the elites of the elites

1144
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 2>are absolutely using the stars alignment in the sky to

1145
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:02.880
<v Speaker 2>their advantage. Like there's no way they're not to me anyway.

1146
01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:06.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, for sure. And a good example of being

1147
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:12.199
<v Speaker 3>used for bad well possible example, because the Nazis, I know,

1148
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.880
<v Speaker 3>we're looking into this, they were looking at they had

1149
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:18.320
<v Speaker 3>that Agartha Inner Earth tradition that they believed in. You

1150
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:21.639
<v Speaker 3>know that going back to that Thule society that the

1151
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.000
<v Speaker 3>base that we took up in Greenland from the Nazis.

1152
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:27.519
<v Speaker 3>The Thuley Society was in a cult order much that

1153
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.159
<v Speaker 3>were you know, running a nation behind the scenes, much

1154
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.800
<v Speaker 3>like what we're talking about here today. And the Nazis

1155
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 3>believed in Agartha and they believed that there was like

1156
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:39.199
<v Speaker 3>a big massive cavern down there inside the Earth. It's

1157
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of like hollow Earth theory. And they believed that

1158
01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:43.519
<v Speaker 3>it had its own type of sun, and they called

1159
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:48.119
<v Speaker 3>it the Black Sun, and they believed that it emanated

1160
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 3>some sort of an energy field that you could harness

1161
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.800
<v Speaker 3>and tap into. And that's what they were trying to do.

1162
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:54.960
<v Speaker 3>They were trying to get down into the Earth to

1163
01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:59.400
<v Speaker 3>find not only ancient civilizations, but an ancient power source

1164
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:01.760
<v Speaker 3>known as the Black Sun, so they could harness it.

1165
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, did they find it, I don't know, I mean,

1166
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.400
<v Speaker 3>but it wouldn't have probably been worked out well if

1167
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:07.840
<v Speaker 3>they did.

1168
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean, you hear about, you know, and you

1169
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.320
<v Speaker 2>look into the story of Admiral Bird's journal or diary,

1170
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:16.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was, and I know that that is something

1171
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:20.239
<v Speaker 2>that is argued a little bit because where it came from.

1172
01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Supposedly his son found it or something like that and

1173
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:25.960
<v Speaker 2>released it. We don't know if that's actually a true

1174
01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.440
<v Speaker 2>story or not. But if you believe it, which I

1175
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 2>tend to, it talks about going into the inner Earth

1176
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and seeing like giant beings and crazy forestation and there's

1177
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:40.280
<v Speaker 2>a whole other like ecosystem going on in there. And

1178
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to say that within within today's day and age,

1179
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that we can only drill eight miles to the center

1180
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:52.960
<v Speaker 2>of the earth, Like, I don't buy that. And we've

1181
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:56.840
<v Speaker 2>only discovered, like we've only ever even discovered five percent

1182
01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:01.039
<v Speaker 2>of the ocean's floor. So I don't buy that either. Personally,

1183
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that they probably know what the fuck is up,

1184
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:06.079
<v Speaker 2>and either they're they're staying away or they're hoarding all

1185
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:09.480
<v Speaker 2>of the resources and information for themselves. Either way, it's

1186
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:11.000
<v Speaker 2>not a good it's not a good look.

1187
01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:11.519
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1188
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:14.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I I tend to believe in stuff

1189
01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:17.000
<v Speaker 2>like that because you know, let's just say you don't

1190
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.079
<v Speaker 2>believe in the whole inner Earth thing? Well, what the

1191
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:21.679
<v Speaker 2>fuck did admiral Birds see beyond? You know, the ice

1192
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:25.800
<v Speaker 2>wall and Antarctica? Like that's you're talking about an admiral dude,

1193
01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Like this was no scrub.

1194
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I think that it lines up with the legend of

1195
01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:34.880
<v Speaker 3>the Crystal City that the Irish had, and and and go.

1196
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:38.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think that that's what his diary possibly

1197
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:40.639
<v Speaker 3>is dealing with. And It's been a while since I've

1198
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.639
<v Speaker 3>looked into this, but I'll tell you this too, that

1199
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.360
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of birds records went to a university I

1200
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.760
<v Speaker 3>think it was in Ohio, and they were released in

1201
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:54.119
<v Speaker 3>recent day. I don't remember the date, but I remember

1202
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:56.320
<v Speaker 3>when I looked into it. At the time that those

1203
01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:58.960
<v Speaker 3>documents were released or people were allowed to go in

1204
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.239
<v Speaker 3>and look at them, was right around the time the

1205
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Bird Diary started showing up. It was published right after

1206
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:09.239
<v Speaker 3>these documents were open up to the public, right, And

1207
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 3>I looked into it, and I I what I gleaned

1208
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:17.199
<v Speaker 3>is that Bird was talking about not South, not the

1209
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:19.840
<v Speaker 3>South Pole, but the North Pole. In that diary. He

1210
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.280
<v Speaker 3>was he was talking about and describing a trip he

1211
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.239
<v Speaker 3>flew up over the North Pole where he saw this

1212
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:30.440
<v Speaker 3>futuristic city of lights and all that. And I'm telling you, man,

1213
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:35.159
<v Speaker 3>it lines up with the Irish legends of the Crystal City,

1214
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:40.280
<v Speaker 3>which was like around eleven hundred a d. These people

1215
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:43.679
<v Speaker 3>were hearing weird sounds. These Irish people were hearing weird

1216
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:47.360
<v Speaker 3>sounds and they were seeing like weird lights. So they

1217
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:50.679
<v Speaker 3>got in their ships and they chased after the weird

1218
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:53.480
<v Speaker 3>lights and they found that there was a crystal city

1219
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:55.920
<v Speaker 3>that had come up out of the ocean. They went,

1220
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:58.840
<v Speaker 3>they landed, and they said they talked to these entities

1221
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:00.800
<v Speaker 3>there they looked kind of like people, and that they

1222
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:02.599
<v Speaker 3>were Earth's record keepers.

1223
01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:05.960
<v Speaker 4>That's not doing them. Uh.

1224
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:07.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's I don't know if it's

1225
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:10.800
<v Speaker 3>It might be intertwined with that, but I'm not sure.

1226
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:14.880
<v Speaker 3>But basically what happened was they would go, they'd meet

1227
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:17.800
<v Speaker 3>with these people and they would leave in the city,

1228
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:20.760
<v Speaker 3>would like disappear or something and go back into the Earth.

1229
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but every year, and the Irish have

1230
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:27.320
<v Speaker 3>records of this. Every year they would see the weird lights,

1231
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.199
<v Speaker 3>hop in their ships, go visit the Earth record keepers,

1232
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:33.079
<v Speaker 3>learn some stuff, and then come back. And it sounds

1233
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.920
<v Speaker 3>just like that city that bird mentions in his diary,

1234
01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:40.760
<v Speaker 3>and and they they went north to find this city.

1235
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:42.679
<v Speaker 3>It's it's all. It all kind of lines up.

1236
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:48.320
<v Speaker 2>And that's what allegedly that's where Hitler said that the

1237
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:51.800
<v Speaker 2>the Nordics came from too, right, Yeah, what it would

1238
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.320
<v Speaker 2>be from up there, So I mean there might be

1239
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:57.920
<v Speaker 2>something here and and I always like to go back

1240
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:02.360
<v Speaker 2>to this one too, So so Justin Trudeau, ex Prime minister.

1241
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:03.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he still is. I thought he

1242
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 2>stepped down. But anyway, Justin Trudeau, his dad used to

1243
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 2>be big dickon right. That's basically how he got the job.

1244
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:15.800
<v Speaker 2>And Justin Trudeau said he understood he was whenever he

1245
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.000
<v Speaker 2>was a little kid he went, he went with his

1246
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:19.760
<v Speaker 2>dad up to the North Pole, and whenever he went

1247
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:22.440
<v Speaker 2>up to the North Pole, he goes. I understand the

1248
01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:25.280
<v Speaker 2>amount of power and respect that my dad had after

1249
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:27.119
<v Speaker 2>what I had seen at the North Pole. And it

1250
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:29.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of left it very open ended like that, and

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01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 2>so it led it. You know, it leads a lot

1252
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:34.039
<v Speaker 2>of people to speculate like, all right, well did he

1253
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.440
<v Speaker 2>see hollow Earth? Did he see other beings? Did he

1254
01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:39.159
<v Speaker 2>see you know what I'm saying, and so, what would

1255
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.679
<v Speaker 2>lead you to think that it might be the Nordics? Dude,

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01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:43.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.880
<v Speaker 3>It may have been because I think Trudeau was like

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01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.280
<v Speaker 3>three years old when they did that trip, and it

1259
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:51.559
<v Speaker 3>just makes sense that they would they allowed his dad

1260
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:53.679
<v Speaker 3>to maybe take him because he was so young. And

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01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:56.840
<v Speaker 3>can you hear me right now? Okay? And uh, and

1262
01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:59.760
<v Speaker 3>you know they went up I think there's some land

1263
01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:02.440
<v Speaker 3>up there. Personally, this is what I think. And Bird

1264
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.199
<v Speaker 3>was talking about this in some interviews back in the fifties.

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01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Bird was describing a big area of land up there

1266
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:13.599
<v Speaker 3>and he said it was getting crowded at the North Pole. Yeah,

1267
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:16.159
<v Speaker 3>It's like, it's like, what is he talking about. Well,

1268
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:21.280
<v Speaker 3>if you look across mythologies and old maps, they all

1269
01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:24.360
<v Speaker 3>show this hyper Borea area at the North Pole. It's

1270
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:29.840
<v Speaker 3>on all the old maps. And sometime in our time,

1271
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:34.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, in the twentieth century, they took it off

1272
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.119
<v Speaker 3>of the maps, and you know, Google obviously kind of

1273
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:39.519
<v Speaker 3>blocks it and stuff. But I'm saying, like, what if

1274
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:42.320
<v Speaker 3>there's a piece of land up there that Trudeau's dad,

1275
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:45.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, because he was an elite right had access

1276
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:48.000
<v Speaker 3>to it, and it's just blocked off from the rest

1277
01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:52.719
<v Speaker 3>of us. It's the hyper Borea, it's the Thuley, it's

1278
01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:56.320
<v Speaker 3>the maybe the area perhaps even where this at. We

1279
01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:59.079
<v Speaker 3>get these atlantis myths.

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01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, and that's something that's pretty interesting too. And

1281
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:03.679
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be like my third time saying this,

1282
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:07.239
<v Speaker 2>but I just find it to be so fascinating. There

1283
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:10.559
<v Speaker 2>was a guy that went to court here recently talking

1284
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:13.480
<v Speaker 2>about the all the UFO type stuff, and he said

1285
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:17.439
<v Speaker 2>that there were four types of alien breeds that he

1286
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:20.640
<v Speaker 2>absolutely knew about, and the Tall Whites are one of them.

1287
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Like he said that they were absolutely in communication with

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01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:26.880
<v Speaker 2>what they call the Nordics or the Tall Whites or

1289
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:30.760
<v Speaker 2>something like that, also named the gray aliens, also named

1290
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the Reptilians and the insectoids. So that's fucking weird, but

1291
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:38.640
<v Speaker 2>it leads you to like believe, now, like, let's just

1292
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:41.079
<v Speaker 2>say that that is true. Let's just say that it's

1293
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:43.279
<v Speaker 2>not just some kind of mk ultru to get everybody

1294
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:46.279
<v Speaker 2>worked up, and they're actually telling the truth, which I

1295
01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:50.079
<v Speaker 2>have a hard time, you know, I struggle with this

1296
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:52.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of shit because I want to believe it, but

1297
01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:55.640
<v Speaker 2>also at the same time, it's still our government, and

1298
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I know that they lie to us all the time,

1299
01:08:57.319 --> 01:08:59.600
<v Speaker 2>but then you ask other people, like that's the only

1300
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:02.359
<v Speaker 2>source they do believe is a government kind of source.

1301
01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:04.720
<v Speaker 2>So who fucking knows what really is true anymore.

1302
01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:07.199
<v Speaker 3>But I think there's something to a lot of these

1303
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 3>events bro even even some of the stuff like you're

1304
01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:13.159
<v Speaker 3>talking about the tall whites, right, or maybe even this

1305
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:16.920
<v Speaker 3>race from the north right, Like, uh, the reason why

1306
01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:20.039
<v Speaker 3>the Nazis had a base up there at the top

1307
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:22.640
<v Speaker 3>of Greenland that they called Thule, it was because of

1308
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:26.039
<v Speaker 3>this Tholey society, because they believed in Hyperborea. And one

1309
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:28.640
<v Speaker 3>of the main guys who was preaching that, who the

1310
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:32.199
<v Speaker 3>Nazis were listening to intently, was a guy named Carl Viligant.

1311
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Carl Villigant believed that the Germans came from this aryan

1312
01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:40.600
<v Speaker 3>superman race that lived up there, and he believed that

1313
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:43.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, it goes back thousands of years and that

1314
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:47.560
<v Speaker 3>there was this was the land of the Neffelheim ice giants.

1315
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:51.479
<v Speaker 3>And that's, of course that sounds just like Nephelum. So

1316
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:53.159
<v Speaker 3>you can you can look at that, and then you

1317
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:55.319
<v Speaker 3>can look at all the old maps of Hyperborea and stuff,

1318
01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:57.560
<v Speaker 3>and you start to see a picture and I'm not

1319
01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:00.960
<v Speaker 3>promoting this because it's what the Nazis believe. I'm promoting

1320
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:04.399
<v Speaker 3>it because it's This is the reason why the Nazis

1321
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:07.560
<v Speaker 3>believed this is because it predated them. This was in

1322
01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:12.119
<v Speaker 3>mythology already. They just took it and adopted it.

1323
01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:15.199
<v Speaker 2>I think about the the what were they called the

1324
01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Walkers North of the Wall and Game of the in

1325
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Game of Thrones too, right, white walkers. Yeah, they were

1326
01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:22.600
<v Speaker 2>fucking ice giants.

1327
01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:26.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, giants I think are just a big

1328
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:29.920
<v Speaker 3>part of the story in general that that we have

1329
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.800
<v Speaker 3>to untangle, like all this history that we've been lied

1330
01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 3>to about. I think the giants are are a big party.

1331
01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.239
<v Speaker 3>I think they're a big part of the American backstory

1332
01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:40.840
<v Speaker 3>in general. I mean back to some of the guys

1333
01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:45.359
<v Speaker 3>we talked about earlier, back to Washington. Washington recorded in

1334
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:50.119
<v Speaker 3>his diary that he dug up two giants.

1335
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:52.439
<v Speaker 4>Himself on his land.

1336
01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:56.720
<v Speaker 3>So Washington, uh no, I don't remember where it was.

1337
01:10:56.840 --> 01:10:59.479
<v Speaker 3>It may have been part of his land. But you know,

1338
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:02.359
<v Speaker 3>he was all out looking at mounds. Like Washington was

1339
01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:04.560
<v Speaker 3>a surveyor. He knew this land.

1340
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Man.

1341
01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:07.279
<v Speaker 3>He was always on the lookout for stuff, and like

1342
01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:12.119
<v Speaker 3>he was he was mentally wrapped up in these mounds,

1343
01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:14.399
<v Speaker 3>like in the magic of them. So I think he

1344
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:16.800
<v Speaker 3>probably just dug one up and he found some giants

1345
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:20.000
<v Speaker 3>and he documented that. And you know, the same thing

1346
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:24.239
<v Speaker 3>for Lincoln. Lincoln talked about going to Niagara Falls for

1347
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:27.680
<v Speaker 3>the first time, and he was referencing giants. He was

1348
01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:31.000
<v Speaker 3>like Roman, he's looking at the falls and he's romanticizing,

1349
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:33.239
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, Oh, I'm standing in the place where

1350
01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.760
<v Speaker 3>the ancient giants stood and looked at these falls. These

1351
01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:39.760
<v Speaker 3>guys knew about this stuff. They knew about this stuff,

1352
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:42.159
<v Speaker 3>and I think I just think the giants are a

1353
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:44.359
<v Speaker 3>huge part of this. I mean, I found an old

1354
01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:48.760
<v Speaker 3>article the other day and this was right outside of Pittsburgh.

1355
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:51.560
<v Speaker 3>If this is some of the land that Washington surveyed,

1356
01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:57.239
<v Speaker 3>it's called Washington County today, and I think Washington chose

1357
01:11:57.279 --> 01:11:59.560
<v Speaker 3>that land for a good reason. You know, some of

1358
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:03.520
<v Speaker 3>the oldest pet petroglyphs in the country are there. Uh.

1359
01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:07.479
<v Speaker 3>And I found this article on the Index shout out

1360
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:08.479
<v Speaker 3>to the Index.

1361
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Finds everything is so it says I always remember that.

1362
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:18.359
<v Speaker 3>It says, uh, prehistoric giant bones found. That's the title

1363
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:20.880
<v Speaker 3>of this article. And it goes on to talk about

1364
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:24.640
<v Speaker 3>forty nine skeletons of an ancient race that they would

1365
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:27.239
<v Speaker 3>tug them up, and they are giants and it's Washington

1366
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:32.119
<v Speaker 3>County that touches Pittsburgh. Wow, And the giants had copper

1367
01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:36.359
<v Speaker 3>beads and copper bracelets what they found. Yeah, yeah, whoa.

1368
01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:38.560
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I mean, it all works together. Once

1369
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:41.119
<v Speaker 3>you start studying this stuff, you really find out about

1370
01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:43.960
<v Speaker 3>the copper mines and everything else. It all just makes sense.

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01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:47.000
<v Speaker 2>So whenever we get into giants, though, I know a

1372
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:50.279
<v Speaker 2>lot of people like to reference it back to the Nephlom,

1373
01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:53.880
<v Speaker 2>do you have any alternative theories as to what it

1374
01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:56.199
<v Speaker 2>could be if it's not Nehalem.

1375
01:12:57.119 --> 01:13:01.840
<v Speaker 4>And a knacky Oh well, I feel Anaki slash Nephelin

1376
01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:03.800
<v Speaker 4>are kind of the same thing in different terms.

1377
01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Here, right, I agree, And that's part of why I

1378
01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:08.720
<v Speaker 3>said that, And I mean, because I think there's many

1379
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:12.520
<v Speaker 3>different ways you can look at the Niphilom story. My

1380
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:15.279
<v Speaker 3>thing is, if you, I guess, for Sophie for some reason,

1381
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 3>do not want to go with the version found in scripture,

1382
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:21.279
<v Speaker 3>you can find it in all the other mythologies, So

1383
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:23.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, just pick whatever you want. To call it,

1384
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:26.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, if that's an Anaki or whatever.

1385
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:30.039
<v Speaker 4>You're on a something there all the other cultures around

1386
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:31.760
<v Speaker 4>the world, there's a couple of I was just having

1387
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:34.319
<v Speaker 4>this conversation the other day with my uncle. There's a

1388
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:38.439
<v Speaker 4>few stories that no matter what area of the world

1389
01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:41.199
<v Speaker 4>you're talking, no matter what millennia you're talking, no matter

1390
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:44.720
<v Speaker 4>what culture or language we're speaking on, they all have

1391
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:49.880
<v Speaker 4>a few things that just seem to traverse. Right. For instance, vampires.

1392
01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Every culture and race has their version of a bloodsucking

1393
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:56.920
<v Speaker 4>entity that lives all the blood of humans. Right, no

1394
01:13:56.960 --> 01:13:59.680
<v Speaker 4>matter where you go, every culture has a version of

1395
01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:03.159
<v Speaker 4>a dreas. Some of them are scaly winged beasts that

1396
01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:06.199
<v Speaker 4>breathe fire. Some of them are hairy, long snakes that

1397
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:09.359
<v Speaker 4>run on rain't They all have their version of a dragon.

1398
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:12.159
<v Speaker 4>They all have a version of a phoenix. They all

1399
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:15.119
<v Speaker 4>have a version of a giant. They all have a

1400
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:18.000
<v Speaker 4>version of the world flood. There's a few of these

1401
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:20.640
<v Speaker 4>stories that they might put their own spin on it,

1402
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:23.279
<v Speaker 4>but it's like everybody can agree that at least these

1403
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:26.960
<v Speaker 4>things happened or were real at one point, because if

1404
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.560
<v Speaker 4>they weren't, then how are all of these people talking

1405
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.000
<v Speaker 4>about the exact same thing with maybe a few little

1406
01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.640
<v Speaker 4>details changed, but it's the same thing we're talking about here.

1407
01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I actually found a list of what other you know,

1408
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:42.319
<v Speaker 2>religions and mythologies would have called them or have called

1409
01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:44.640
<v Speaker 2>them in the past. So first off, you got the Norse,

1410
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:50.159
<v Speaker 2>which they just called them. They called them joatnar or jotnar,

1411
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:52.399
<v Speaker 2>which basically means frost giants.

1412
01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:56.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, ice giants, And that's the thing. Odin made a deal.

1413
01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:58.800
<v Speaker 4>He said that there would be no more ice giants.

1414
01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:00.760
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know about you looking around the world

1415
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:01.920
<v Speaker 4>now see ice giants.

1416
01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean he held up is under the bargain.

1417
01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:06.359
<v Speaker 4>Then I don't say, if you want to get technical,

1418
01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:09.319
<v Speaker 4>that's because he had Loki have sex with a horse

1419
01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:13.239
<v Speaker 4>to you know, make the wall get built slower. That

1420
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:17.079
<v Speaker 4>horse's baby was slept near the eight legged horse that

1421
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 4>he rode into battle later, which is why Santa Claus

1422
01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:22.279
<v Speaker 4>gets pulled by eight reindeer on his sleg. There's a

1423
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:24.439
<v Speaker 4>lot of shit there, but continue, so sorry.

1424
01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Then you got the Greeks, which they called them Titans

1425
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and gigantis. So the Titans were the primordial deities larger

1426
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:38.079
<v Speaker 2>and more powerful than Olympians. Then in the in Hindu

1427
01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:40.840
<v Speaker 2>and Vedic culture, you have what is called the Da

1428
01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Das and the d Navas and rock rock sha Sasas.

1429
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to say that one, but basically

1430
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:52.199
<v Speaker 2>they were giant like beings descended from ancient primordial beings.

1431
01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:56.000
<v Speaker 2>They often represented darkness or imbalance, but were not always evil.

1432
01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:02.600
<v Speaker 2>The rock Shasas are demon giants like Ravanna, the ten

1433
01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:06.720
<v Speaker 2>headed king of Lanka. Then you got the Native Americans,

1434
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:13.760
<v Speaker 2>which you have the Cherokee, the Choctaw, the pi Utlier,

1435
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:18.039
<v Speaker 2>and Uh. The Anglican also talk about it. So you

1436
01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:21.640
<v Speaker 2>have the the the Cherokee talking about a race of

1437
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:24.680
<v Speaker 2>giant hairy men who lived in the woods and predated people.

1438
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:29.840
<v Speaker 2>The Choctaw talked about the Nahulo, which is a race

1439
01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:33.479
<v Speaker 2>of white giants who once inhabited the land. The whatever

1440
01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:37.199
<v Speaker 2>the Paiute is what you said they talked. They talked

1441
01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:42.199
<v Speaker 2>about the Uh, the Siteca, which is red haired, cannibalistic

1442
01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:45.840
<v Speaker 2>giants who lived in caves. Then you got the Algonquin

1443
01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that had stories of windigo spirits, often depicted as giant,

1444
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:54.560
<v Speaker 2>ravenous beings. Then you get into the Celtic Uh lore.

1445
01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:57.520
<v Speaker 2>They talk about the Fomorians, which were a race of

1446
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:02.880
<v Speaker 2>monstrous giants who battled the uh tauthiddaya non. I always

1447
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:03.600
<v Speaker 2>fucked that one up.

1448
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:06.680
<v Speaker 4>You're you're close on that one. Fuck yeah.

1449
01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1450
01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Then you have of course Gog Magog, which is a

1451
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:15.279
<v Speaker 2>giant defeated by Brutus of Troy. Then you have Brand

1452
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:20.640
<v Speaker 2>the Blessed that's in Welsh myth. Then you have Sumerian

1453
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:26.600
<v Speaker 2>and Mesopotamian. Obviously with the uh Abkulo and Ananaki, Zoroastrian

1454
01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:28.119
<v Speaker 2>talks talked about them.

1455
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1456
01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:31.000
<v Speaker 2>They were often described as huge, They were called divs

1457
01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:35.680
<v Speaker 2>or devas. They were often described as huge, malevolent beings

1458
01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 2>who opposed her Amaz disorder, and some some texts say

1459
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:43.239
<v Speaker 2>that these giants roamed the world before coming uh, before

1460
01:17:43.279 --> 01:17:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the coming of righteous humans. Then you have Polynesian, uh, Chinese, African,

1461
01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:54.640
<v Speaker 2>the Aztecs. Literally, dude, so many different cultures talked about giants.

1462
01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:57.159
<v Speaker 4>I said, all of them talk about a few things.

1463
01:17:57.199 --> 01:17:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Giants are one of those things. No matter where you love,

1464
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.960
<v Speaker 4>they got a story about them. Dragons are another one, Vampires,

1465
01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:07.000
<v Speaker 4>phoenix is a global flood. There's a few of these

1466
01:18:07.039 --> 01:18:09.560
<v Speaker 4>stories that honestly, it don't matter where you look, they

1467
01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:10.800
<v Speaker 4>got a story about them.

1468
01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:15.720
<v Speaker 3>And over here, specifically in the Americas, we're in such

1469
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:20.760
<v Speaker 3>a racially charged environment today that there's an aspect of

1470
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:23.720
<v Speaker 3>this that I think people do not want to bring up,

1471
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:25.960
<v Speaker 3>even people who are down with the giants, and that

1472
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:31.680
<v Speaker 3>is you said it earlier, the white giants, right, because

1473
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:36.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, but the problem is, well, here's the thing.

1474
01:18:36.439 --> 01:18:38.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't have a problem with the white giants because

1475
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:42.119
<v Speaker 3>the Native Americans themselves had are the ones telling us

1476
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:44.119
<v Speaker 3>that they were here. If you look at what Chief

1477
01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Rolling Thunder said in the late eighteen fifties, he said

1478
01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:49.600
<v Speaker 3>there was a race of ten foot tall white men

1479
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:55.600
<v Speaker 3>who ruled and built many fortifications in early America. Aka

1480
01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:59.680
<v Speaker 3>are star forars fellows that we're talking about, Oh, earthworks

1481
01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:05.000
<v Speaker 3>and forts that would become our Cincinnati, our Pittsburgh, are Manhattan,

1482
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis, et cetera. There is a myth that a

1483
01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:10.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of these guys were not only giants, but they

1484
01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:14.039
<v Speaker 3>were light skinned. I don't think they were all white skin.

1485
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the red hair Giant two, you know, that's.

1486
01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:19.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what the PIU. So this this is a story

1487
01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.000
<v Speaker 3>that lines up with all the tribes from New England

1488
01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:25.439
<v Speaker 3>to Oklahoma to California. It's the same story. It's like

1489
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:27.720
<v Speaker 3>you said, the Piu Indians, they said they were ten

1490
01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:31.720
<v Speaker 3>foot tall, redheaded giants called the Citica.

1491
01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:35.039
<v Speaker 4>Now, let me ask you this because we've done a

1492
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:39.039
<v Speaker 4>couple of episodes talking about and let's talk about, like

1493
01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:43.399
<v Speaker 4>you said, the racially charged motives on this one. Right, Okay,

1494
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:49.399
<v Speaker 4>Once upon a gap, they said that the Aztecs could

1495
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:52.399
<v Speaker 4>not have built these pyramids because they're not white. There's

1496
01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:55.479
<v Speaker 4>no way they could have built these pyramids, and it

1497
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:57.840
<v Speaker 4>had to have been done by white people. This must

1498
01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:01.720
<v Speaker 4>be Atlantis that Plato's talking about, bo bo bop, all

1499
01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:05.399
<v Speaker 4>the things. Okay, cool. Then cut to today where it's like, bro,

1500
01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:08.439
<v Speaker 4>you're telling me they couldn't perfect what we would now

1501
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:11.840
<v Speaker 4>call the pile, like a pile of bricks. They couldn't

1502
01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:14.439
<v Speaker 4>make that into a disseminating shape, each level a little

1503
01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:16.239
<v Speaker 4>bit less than the other one to make a pyramid.

1504
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:20.520
<v Speaker 4>And so they took it as racists writing down the

1505
01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:25.239
<v Speaker 4>books to say that these these indige, these savages, clearly

1506
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:27.680
<v Speaker 4>couldn't figure out how to make a pyramid. This must

1507
01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:31.039
<v Speaker 4>have been done by white people. Right now, we're talking

1508
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:35.800
<v Speaker 4>about these giants. We're talking about quote unquote mythical beings

1509
01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:39.319
<v Speaker 4>quote unquote. We don't know if they were real or not. Now,

1510
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:41.680
<v Speaker 4>we all believed that the giants were real. I'm with

1511
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:44.079
<v Speaker 4>you one hundred percent. But now to say that they

1512
01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:47.720
<v Speaker 4>were white giants. Are you saying that the local native

1513
01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:51.720
<v Speaker 4>the Indidge tribes were uncapable of building these things because

1514
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:54.479
<v Speaker 4>they didn't know how to or are you saying that

1515
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:56.760
<v Speaker 4>they had to have been built by giants because they're

1516
01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:59.600
<v Speaker 4>the only ones that would have granted them the knowledge

1517
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:01.439
<v Speaker 4>in order to do so. They could have That's a

1518
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:02.920
<v Speaker 4>slippery slope in in of itself.

1519
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:06.439
<v Speaker 2>They could have just not been as physically gifted to

1520
01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:09.199
<v Speaker 2>be able to move these and make these type of monuments.

1521
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that the original mound builders because we

1522
01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:17.359
<v Speaker 3>know they were working with some advanced technology. You know,

1523
01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:21.479
<v Speaker 3>they were using trigonometry, They had great knowledge of the stars,

1524
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:25.520
<v Speaker 3>they knew their arts and sciences. Whatever race they were

1525
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:29.079
<v Speaker 3>is irrelevant to me. But what But by studying this,

1526
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:32.720
<v Speaker 3>what I've gleaned is that they were giants or there

1527
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:35.439
<v Speaker 3>were giants in their ranks because they buried them inside

1528
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:39.560
<v Speaker 3>the mounds. And then I just look at the native

1529
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:42.720
<v Speaker 3>American legends of this, and the Native Americans are the

1530
01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:45.920
<v Speaker 3>ones saying predominantly, they're the ones saying that they were white,

1531
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:48.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, or light skin. And then and I also

1532
01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:50.960
<v Speaker 3>look at the Middle East, and I know that there's

1533
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:55.199
<v Speaker 3>light skin people in the Middle East, and specifically, one

1534
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:57.960
<v Speaker 3>of the branches of ancient people who had light skin

1535
01:21:58.039 --> 01:22:00.239
<v Speaker 3>that came out of the Middle East were the Canaanite Heights.

1536
01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:04.000
<v Speaker 3>The Canaanites ended up in the Canary Islands there as

1537
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:07.239
<v Speaker 3>soon it's became the Guanches, and the Guanches were a

1538
01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:10.720
<v Speaker 3>light skinned people. And we know that where the Canary

1539
01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Islands are today, there is a natural stream in an

1540
01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.600
<v Speaker 3>ocean stream, an ocean current that goes all the way

1541
01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:22.159
<v Speaker 3>down and comes straight here, like it comes straight here

1542
01:22:22.159 --> 01:22:24.479
<v Speaker 3>to the America. So the Canaanites could have just hopped

1543
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:28.640
<v Speaker 3>on a boat and been guided by the ocean itself here.

1544
01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:29.960
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

1545
01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:31.239
<v Speaker 5>You know.

1546
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.520
<v Speaker 3>So, guys, there's the Susquehannock Indians who were said to

1547
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:37.399
<v Speaker 3>be light skinned as well. They had light skin and

1548
01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:39.720
<v Speaker 3>light eyes. But I don't think they were white. I

1549
01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:43.560
<v Speaker 3>think that they were they were a mix of giants

1550
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:44.640
<v Speaker 3>and Native Americans.

1551
01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:48.600
<v Speaker 4>Now I've heard this as far as the trade winds go, like, uh,

1552
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:53.159
<v Speaker 4>you could look at ancient Mayan ancient Incan statues, and

1553
01:22:53.239 --> 01:22:58.720
<v Speaker 4>these statues have discernibly African looking features. Right now, if

1554
01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:01.359
<v Speaker 4>you look at the trade winds off of the westernmost

1555
01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:05.279
<v Speaker 4>coast of Africa, if you put in a boat on

1556
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:07.720
<v Speaker 4>the west coast of Africa and it's kind of give

1557
01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:11.239
<v Speaker 4>it a good little nudge without any real navigation, you

1558
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:15.640
<v Speaker 4>will accidentally end up in South America. Right That's that's

1559
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.079
<v Speaker 4>how the Coriolis effect goes, that's how the currents go,

1560
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:21.159
<v Speaker 4>that's how the trade winds go. You'll just end up there.

1561
01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:23.680
<v Speaker 4>So you're saying that there is a similar path to

1562
01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:26.199
<v Speaker 4>be taken from Europe to North America.

1563
01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And if you just it's it's right there with

1564
01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:33.479
<v Speaker 3>that Iberia, you know, because Spain is Iberia.

1565
01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.720
<v Speaker 4>Right, yeah, yeah, the Iberian Peninsula, Spain and Portugal.

1566
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Yep, it's so it's right there. It's that it's that

1567
01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:41.920
<v Speaker 3>northernmost tip of of Africa where right there you have

1568
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:46.760
<v Speaker 3>the Canary Islands or the bottom of Spain, the westernmost

1569
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:51.199
<v Speaker 3>tip of Spain. And that's why with I believe, like

1570
01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:54.000
<v Speaker 3>with with that big mound in West Virginia, I was

1571
01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:56.159
<v Speaker 3>talking about where they pulled out the Grave Creek tablet

1572
01:23:56.199 --> 01:24:00.439
<v Speaker 3>that had Iberian on it, Iberian Phoenician. I think that's

1573
01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:03.079
<v Speaker 3>because those people jumped off the tip of Iberia and

1574
01:24:03.159 --> 01:24:06.319
<v Speaker 3>came here, and you think the Canaanites were doing the

1575
01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>same thing.

1576
01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:10.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, just out of my own curiosity, I was like,

1577
01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:11.039
<v Speaker 2>all right.

1578
01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:13.840
<v Speaker 3>They were somewhat light skinned, you know some of these

1579
01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:14.359
<v Speaker 3>people were.

1580
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:17.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean, so is Egypt. For the record, everybody thinks

1581
01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:20.800
<v Speaker 4>egypt being in Africa means they were black. No, Egyptians

1582
01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:23.880
<v Speaker 4>are not black. I'm sorry. Find me in Ethiopian that

1583
01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:26.760
<v Speaker 4>looks like somebody from the Congo. Like, Africa is a

1584
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.840
<v Speaker 4>whole ass continent with all of the shades inside. Egyptians

1585
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:34.399
<v Speaker 4>look more light skinned Arab than they do Subsaharin. So

1586
01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:35.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you hundred yeah.

1587
01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:38.079
<v Speaker 3>And I had a roommate who is he's still a

1588
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:42.039
<v Speaker 3>friend of mine. He is Egyptian, and he's light skinned,

1589
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:43.600
<v Speaker 3>and he's got light eyes.

1590
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:46.479
<v Speaker 4>Bro. He probably looks olive, complexy with a little bit

1591
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:49.159
<v Speaker 4>of some Afro hair with hazel eyes. If I had

1592
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:50.880
<v Speaker 4>to guess, I've never met this guy. But in my

1593
01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:52.000
<v Speaker 4>about one point.

1594
01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:54.399
<v Speaker 3>You're almost on point with it, Oh my god. But

1595
01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:57.760
<v Speaker 3>the maybe his eyes are like a very light hazel,

1596
01:24:57.880 --> 01:24:59.319
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you're a point all the way.

1597
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:03.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's crazy. Also, Italians, I know, is gonna blow

1598
01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:06.760
<v Speaker 4>people's fucking minds here. Italians are blonde hair and blue

1599
01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:10.600
<v Speaker 4>eyed Sicilians because of the Moors have the dark hair

1600
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:14.159
<v Speaker 4>and dark eyes and the olive complexion. Romans and those

1601
01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:17.439
<v Speaker 4>of Tuscany and all that blonde headed, blue eyed German

1602
01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:20.600
<v Speaker 4>looking motherfucker is historically speaking, I know that's gonna piss

1603
01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:21.079
<v Speaker 4>people off.

1604
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Like you, we are like yours truly a little bit,

1605
01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I would say.

1606
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:28.239
<v Speaker 4>A little bit, dude, honestly, Julius Caesar blonde headed, blue eyed,

1607
01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:35.319
<v Speaker 4>I know it's wild. Cleopatra redheaded, I know it's crazy.

1608
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:38.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean Cleopatra the ninth, not Cleopatra the first. That's

1609
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:40.119
<v Speaker 4>a talk for another day. That toolemac Empire.

1610
01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, moving on, I always say that I would have been,

1611
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:45.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, one of Hitler's favorite kinds. I just want

1612
01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:49.439
<v Speaker 2>to throw that one out there, but just out of curiosity,

1613
01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>since we're getting super weird here, we're talking about giants

1614
01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:54.399
<v Speaker 2>and shit, and I know that this is a heavily

1615
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:58.800
<v Speaker 2>debated topic. But we would be remissed if we didn't

1616
01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:03.560
<v Speaker 2>talk about the Atlanta here. Okay, okay, no, I whatever

1617
01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:05.479
<v Speaker 2>you just got excited about. I want to hear that.

1618
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:07.439
<v Speaker 3>I thought you were going to save the Smithsonian.

1619
01:26:07.479 --> 01:26:09.000
<v Speaker 4>I could have swore do that too.

1620
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:10.560
<v Speaker 3>No, but what did you? Let's do both? What did

1621
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:11.840
<v Speaker 3>you say? Do you say the Atlanteans?

1622
01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:15.520
<v Speaker 2>The Atlanteans? Yeah, so just out of curiosity, I never

1623
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:18.199
<v Speaker 2>really looked into how tall they were, like, you know,

1624
01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:22.199
<v Speaker 2>as far as what people say about them. But you

1625
01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>have within theosophy, you have Rudolph Steiner and Helena Blovotsky.

1626
01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Within theosophy, they say, and this is where you got

1627
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:31.399
<v Speaker 2>to pull it from, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1628
01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:34.479
<v Speaker 2>there's not a whole lot left about this kind of stuff.

1629
01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:37.600
<v Speaker 2>But within theosophy they claimed that they were As far

1630
01:26:37.640 --> 01:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>as the Atlanteans go, they claimed that they were twelve

1631
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:42.680
<v Speaker 2>to thirty plus feet not some big motherfuckers right there.

1632
01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Then you got Edgar Casey, another kind of spiritualist in

1633
01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:48.439
<v Speaker 2>a sense, right, like I know a lot of people

1634
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:50.840
<v Speaker 2>don't like that, but he believes that they were eight

1635
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>to twelve feet tall. Then you have the ancient aliens.

1636
01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:57.199
<v Speaker 2>They what they believe in you know, as far as

1637
01:26:57.239 --> 01:26:59.600
<v Speaker 2>fringe topics like that they believe that they were ten

1638
01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>to twenty feet tall. Then you have Plato, my homeboy,

1639
01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>who he didn't necessarily describe a height given but described

1640
01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:12.199
<v Speaker 2>them as godlike and powerful. So I mean, that's a

1641
01:27:12.239 --> 01:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of people saying that these beings or entities or

1642
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:18.560
<v Speaker 2>aliens or whatever, the original people of Earth or whatever

1643
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:22.880
<v Speaker 2>they were, like were huge. And I know that I

1644
01:27:22.920 --> 01:27:25.680
<v Speaker 2>find a good source on Atlantis, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1645
01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:28.600
<v Speaker 2>find a good one that is very well documented. You're

1646
01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:30.640
<v Speaker 2>not gonna find it, Like that's why you have to

1647
01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:31.039
<v Speaker 2>go here.

1648
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Can I say something about Bolvavski and I don't promote

1649
01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:39.119
<v Speaker 3>Bolvaski and you do I and I'm but I also.

1650
01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:43.199
<v Speaker 4>Most of her ship came from a fucking astra projection

1651
01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:45.199
<v Speaker 4>or a story that never actually well.

1652
01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Hold on Helena Bovotsky, like, she was a pioneer of

1653
01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>her time. She was one of the first people. She

1654
01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:54.279
<v Speaker 2>was one of the very first people.

1655
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:56.760
<v Speaker 3>She's I don't think that she needs to be And

1656
01:27:56.760 --> 01:27:58.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying this is what you're doing, Jacob. I'm

1657
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:01.159
<v Speaker 3>saying that a lot of people out there demonize her

1658
01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:04.319
<v Speaker 3>to the furthest extent that somebody can be demonized.

1659
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:06.039
<v Speaker 4>Called her grifter, not demon.

1660
01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>She brought over all of the Eastern spiritual and philosophical

1661
01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:12.039
<v Speaker 2>teachings to the West.

1662
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:15.359
<v Speaker 4>Look at the story of where she got that Eastern philosophy,

1663
01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:17.479
<v Speaker 4>the guy that she met that gave her this journey,

1664
01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:20.159
<v Speaker 4>even though she never fucking went there herself. Like you

1665
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:22.880
<v Speaker 4>do your own research on she said.

1666
01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:25.479
<v Speaker 3>She had ascended masters, and nobody knows if they were

1667
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:30.279
<v Speaker 3>real or or figments or real they were spirits.

1668
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:32.399
<v Speaker 4>But it's like the guy that said he saw the

1669
01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:36.199
<v Speaker 4>tablets under the pyramids, even though he never went to Egypt, Like, well,

1670
01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:40.439
<v Speaker 4>I see see.

1671
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I think some of these people actually were channeling personally.

1672
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes, some I don't think Blovotsky was. Some might have been.

1673
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I think Casey Casey, some of his stuff was proven.

1674
01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Casey was on some ship, dude, and so and and

1675
01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I know this is gonna be heavy, heavily debated topic

1676
01:28:56.199 --> 01:28:58.960
<v Speaker 2>as well. I think Maury's Doriel was on some fucking ship.

1677
01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>But that's just my own Oh of God.

1678
01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:04.119
<v Speaker 4>Jonathan, the cult leader whose ex wife and everybody who

1679
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:06.000
<v Speaker 4>left his colt said this guy is full of shit.

1680
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:06.720
<v Speaker 4>Don't listen to him.

1681
01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever read the book?

1682
01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:12.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the story of tot the Atlantean, even though Toad

1683
01:29:12.359 --> 01:29:14.439
<v Speaker 4>himself hold on and his parentage, the whole thing with

1684
01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:17.960
<v Speaker 4>the Egyptian, like his birthright, who his father was, where

1685
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.560
<v Speaker 4>he came from, goes completely against everything Driel said.

1686
01:29:21.640 --> 01:29:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but did you ever read the book? Is my question?

1687
01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:28.680
<v Speaker 4>Not the entirety of it. Why would I because shit,

1688
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:30.840
<v Speaker 4>as soon as you find out where she got it from, it's.

1689
01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, well, Jacob hates any spiritual philosophy that isn't

1690
01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Christian and it's all faking. Okay, but not.

1691
01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:40.840
<v Speaker 4>All, not all. There are some that like. Okay, if

1692
01:29:40.840 --> 01:29:43.479
<v Speaker 4>you went to the site and you learned from some

1693
01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:46.600
<v Speaker 4>sort of person who claimed to be for instance, if

1694
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:49.159
<v Speaker 4>you go to India and you learn from a yogi

1695
01:29:49.239 --> 01:29:51.960
<v Speaker 4>who was taught from an ancient source of a yogi, Okay,

1696
01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:53.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm listening to you. I may disagree with some of

1697
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.800
<v Speaker 4>the things you say, but I'm listening. If you say, oh, yeah,

1698
01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I went here and they gave me this title and

1699
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:00.680
<v Speaker 4>it's this one guy, but you will know about it

1700
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:02.760
<v Speaker 4>because you've never heard of it before. And then you

1701
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:04.479
<v Speaker 4>do a little bit of research into it and you

1702
01:30:04.520 --> 01:30:08.000
<v Speaker 4>find that none of that actually exists. It's completely faking gay. Yeah.

1703
01:30:08.039 --> 01:30:11.399
<v Speaker 2>Well hold on though, because even within the CIA back

1704
01:30:11.439 --> 01:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>in the eighties, they were doing fucking remote viewing. That's

1705
01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.560
<v Speaker 2>very well documented in conversation. They're still doing it to

1706
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>this day, by the way.

1707
01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Sure sure yeah, the remote viewing that was audited by

1708
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:23.439
<v Speaker 4>themselves to find that they were ninety eight percent accurate.

1709
01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:26.479
<v Speaker 4>That's like the IRS saying the IRS has never done

1710
01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:29.159
<v Speaker 4>anything wrong. They audit themselves. Bro, good shit.

1711
01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>You just don't even try to believe. You just automatically

1712
01:30:33.199 --> 01:30:37.079
<v Speaker 2>fed here, Jonathan, Dude. Fed you're saying that you don't

1713
01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:42.039
<v Speaker 2>believe in anything like crazy spiritually miracle or anything outside

1714
01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>of that. If it's not just from your religion, and

1715
01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing wrong with.

1716
01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:48.600
<v Speaker 4>That, take religion out of it. Test the source. Fuck

1717
01:30:48.680 --> 01:30:53.520
<v Speaker 4>religion for a second. Fuck all religious books. Test the

1718
01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:56.159
<v Speaker 4>validity of the source, and if it's based in any

1719
01:30:56.279 --> 01:30:59.159
<v Speaker 4>kind of bullshit, and if it doesn't pass level one

1720
01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:02.079
<v Speaker 4>through three of the bullshit cipher, than like, dude, do

1721
01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:03.000
<v Speaker 4>your own reset.

1722
01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:05.119
<v Speaker 2>This is this is how you get me in Jacob

1723
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:08.520
<v Speaker 2>worked up. Is my going into these topics. This is

1724
01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:12.039
<v Speaker 2>like historically, anybody, like on some real ship. Anybody wants

1725
01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:15.039
<v Speaker 2>to go back and look at ourth the Atlantean episode

1726
01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:17.279
<v Speaker 2>from like two years ago. We were about to throw

1727
01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:19.600
<v Speaker 2>the fuck down in that episode, dude, because.

1728
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:22.039
<v Speaker 4>You were quoting Billy Carson. Look at where he is today.

1729
01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:23.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean, holy fuck, bro.

1730
01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh why I was mainly quoting Burray's story. Ell, But

1731
01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>that's that's besides the point.

1732
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.640
<v Speaker 4>Billy Carson quotes a lot. That's my point.

1733
01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:33.479
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, continue, I would love to hear what you have

1734
01:31:33.560 --> 01:31:36.239
<v Speaker 2>to say before Jacob gets his fucking panties and even

1735
01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:37.199
<v Speaker 2>more and a bunch over there.

1736
01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I want to I want to say, I want to.

1737
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:43.319
<v Speaker 3>I want to approach this diplomatically here as diplomatically as

1738
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:46.159
<v Speaker 3>I can because I'm on the fence about Levaski. So

1739
01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>what I'm about to say is not like a promotion

1740
01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>of hers. I do think that. So before she put out,

1741
01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:55.640
<v Speaker 3>before she poshed her first book, she had went around

1742
01:31:55.640 --> 01:31:58.319
<v Speaker 3>the world three times. She she did spend time in

1743
01:31:58.439 --> 01:32:01.880
<v Speaker 3>India in a lot of these places, so she did

1744
01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:05.119
<v Speaker 3>have when you look into her, she traveled and everywhere

1745
01:32:05.159 --> 01:32:09.039
<v Speaker 3>she went she went to the esoteric hub of the region.

1746
01:32:09.279 --> 01:32:11.359
<v Speaker 3>She went in an otherwise. In other words, she went

1747
01:32:11.479 --> 01:32:15.840
<v Speaker 3>wherever she went just to learn the spiritual and mystic

1748
01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:18.760
<v Speaker 3>traditions of the place. So I'd be remiss to say

1749
01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:21.840
<v Speaker 3>that she didn't know you know, a couple a thing

1750
01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:22.159
<v Speaker 3>or two.

1751
01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Right now.

1752
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:27.119
<v Speaker 3>I know that there's okay, for instance, with with with

1753
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:31.399
<v Speaker 3>isis unveil, because I looked into that that book a

1754
01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:35.239
<v Speaker 3>little bit and she had a three hundred page citation

1755
01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:40.439
<v Speaker 3>like section for that where she did cite her sources.

1756
01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:44.800
<v Speaker 3>And she's been labeled as a fraud and as a plagiarist.

1757
01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:48.920
<v Speaker 3>But you know, frauds don't usually put three hundred pages

1758
01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:52.319
<v Speaker 3>of citations and you know all that with their work.

1759
01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:56.960
<v Speaker 3>So there's she's not a complete no frouds in my opinion.

1760
01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:59.000
<v Speaker 3>And I know we weren't really staying that. I'm just

1761
01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:00.880
<v Speaker 3>saying that to other people there will say that.

1762
01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:04.399
<v Speaker 4>I say that she believes what she was saying, for sure,

1763
01:33:04.840 --> 01:33:06.920
<v Speaker 4>But if you look at the title of the guy

1764
01:33:07.439 --> 01:33:10.720
<v Speaker 4>who she spoke to, that's not a title of anybody

1765
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:13.840
<v Speaker 4>that actually exists. So I think that she was taken

1766
01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:16.760
<v Speaker 4>for a ride by a charlatan, came back and wrote

1767
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:19.720
<v Speaker 4>down what that charlatan told her, Like I'm not saying

1768
01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:24.680
<v Speaker 4>that she herself is like in you know, purposely leading

1769
01:33:24.720 --> 01:33:28.840
<v Speaker 4>people astray. I think she was duped and then wrote

1770
01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:30.399
<v Speaker 4>down what the duperrie was.

1771
01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:33.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, now you're backtracking a little bit, because you just

1772
01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:35.840
<v Speaker 2>whenever he said that she traveled around the world, you

1773
01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:38.520
<v Speaker 2>went in quotes, so like, I didn't even believe that.

1774
01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:41.039
<v Speaker 4>You travel around the world. She traveled to us spot

1775
01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:41.640
<v Speaker 4>one time.

1776
01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:45.359
<v Speaker 3>So could it be a situation like, for instance, like this,

1777
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:50.239
<v Speaker 3>this is a Dweller on two Planets by Frederick Oliver.

1778
01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:53.119
<v Speaker 3>But Frederick Oller said that he was dictated this book

1779
01:33:53.159 --> 01:33:57.119
<v Speaker 3>by a nantity named Philos and this is all about Atlantis,

1780
01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:01.600
<v Speaker 3>the actual Atlantean or purportedly about Atlantis. This was like

1781
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:07.239
<v Speaker 3>a fifteen or sixteen year old kid in early Frontier

1782
01:34:07.319 --> 01:34:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Oregon or California who wrote a whole book that was

1783
01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:14.520
<v Speaker 3>channeled to him. Now could it be something like that

1784
01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:19.279
<v Speaker 3>with Bolvaski where she was given some truth in her channels?

1785
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:22.880
<v Speaker 4>I hear you, But then I would also question the

1786
01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:24.720
<v Speaker 4>validity of a sixteen year old kid that had a

1787
01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:26.800
<v Speaker 4>crazy dreamy and wrote it down on the same way

1788
01:34:26.840 --> 01:34:30.279
<v Speaker 4>that Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith found these gold tablets and

1789
01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:31.920
<v Speaker 4>looked through a moon rock, and now we have the

1790
01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Church of Latter day Saints that fully believe everything he said.

1791
01:34:35.479 --> 01:34:38.720
<v Speaker 4>I would question the validity of that very heavily. Yeah.

1792
01:34:38.760 --> 01:34:40.159
<v Speaker 4>And if we're gonna call one thing a cult and

1793
01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:42.880
<v Speaker 4>not the other, then like where are we drawing that line? Oh?

1794
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I agree wholeheartedly with religion in general.

1795
01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I think we agree with on this maybe. Uh,

1796
01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:55.920
<v Speaker 3>the Smithsonian came out in what was it, nineteen thirty four,

1797
01:34:55.960 --> 01:34:58.920
<v Speaker 3>and so the giants weren't real. I have a major

1798
01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:02.079
<v Speaker 3>problem with that, big Yeah, I have a major problem

1799
01:35:02.119 --> 01:35:04.840
<v Speaker 3>with that. I think it's clear to me after a

1800
01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:08.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of research that they really were giants. The government

1801
01:35:08.279 --> 01:35:10.600
<v Speaker 3>does what the government does, like they did in twenty twenty.

1802
01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:12.960
<v Speaker 3>They lie to us about everything. And that's why I'm

1803
01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:16.720
<v Speaker 3>so fascinated with these organizations like the Cosmos Club and

1804
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:20.239
<v Speaker 3>the Society of the Cincinnati, because it was the Society

1805
01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:25.399
<v Speaker 3>of the Cincinnati who helped start the Smithsonian. Jefferson Davis

1806
01:35:25.479 --> 01:35:27.640
<v Speaker 3>was a part of that, and you know it, just

1807
01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:30.600
<v Speaker 3>like I said, this goes straight to the top. Washington

1808
01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:33.760
<v Speaker 3>himself was a part of the Society of the Cincinnati

1809
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:36.159
<v Speaker 3>of course, so thus he was a part of the

1810
01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:39.640
<v Speaker 3>creation of the Smithsonian. And then what you see is

1811
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:44.920
<v Speaker 3>later about thirty years later, this guy named John Wesley

1812
01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Powell comes on the scene and he starts carrying this

1813
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:54.600
<v Speaker 3>torch of rewriting history. He works for the Smithsonian. That's

1814
01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:56.880
<v Speaker 3>the reason why I was talking about the Cosmos Club.

1815
01:35:57.159 --> 01:36:01.720
<v Speaker 3>John Wesley Pals started the Cosmos Club. So he had

1816
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.640
<v Speaker 3>this this full backing of all these very rich and

1817
01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:08.479
<v Speaker 3>powerful people in his club who helped him facilitate a

1818
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:11.680
<v Speaker 3>cover up. And I think I can damn near prove

1819
01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:12.600
<v Speaker 3>it at this point.

1820
01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:16.279
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, break down the Cosmos Club for us. We've

1821
01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:18.560
<v Speaker 4>heard you mentioned the Cincinnati Club a few times this

1822
01:36:18.640 --> 01:36:22.760
<v Speaker 4>evening and all the things, not negating at whatsoever the

1823
01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Cosmos Club. Is this the same thing, different title, or

1824
01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:27.720
<v Speaker 4>is this a completely different club that they kind of

1825
01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:30.479
<v Speaker 4>unified later? What is the Cosmos Club?

1826
01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's it's You can look up the Cosmos Club

1827
01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:36.960
<v Speaker 3>on Google actually, and you'll see that their headquarters is

1828
01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:40.720
<v Speaker 3>still there today. It looks like a crazy like X

1829
01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:43.720
<v Speaker 3>Men headquarter. It looks like the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

1830
01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:45.359
<v Speaker 3>It's just crazy old mansion.

1831
01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:46.680
<v Speaker 4>I love that movie.

1832
01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:50.159
<v Speaker 3>And so it's still there, and we know, I think

1833
01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned this earlier. It's right across the street from

1834
01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:55.720
<v Speaker 3>the headquarters of the Society of Cincinnati. Bingo, there it is,

1835
01:36:56.560 --> 01:37:01.760
<v Speaker 3>and so there was. These guys were Kolo. The third

1836
01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:06.319
<v Speaker 3>neighbors across the street is Washington and Co. Those these

1837
01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:11.159
<v Speaker 3>boys knew each other right now, What this is is

1838
01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:17.520
<v Speaker 3>a club of very powerful men in every facet of

1839
01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:24.239
<v Speaker 3>government and even more, and and academia as well. Actually,

1840
01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I got a list here somewhere. I'll just I'll show

1841
01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.560
<v Speaker 3>you some of so, Okay, here we go. I got

1842
01:37:29.680 --> 01:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>on my phone here COSMOS members. This will give you

1843
01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>a good view into this. They're all also pretty much

1844
01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:41.119
<v Speaker 3>in fields of studying that pertain to archaeological finds as well.

1845
01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:46.319
<v Speaker 3>So in addition to Powell, right, you have Henry Gannett.

1846
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:49.920
<v Speaker 3>He's from Harvard. He's called the father of matt Making

1847
01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:54.239
<v Speaker 3>in America. He founded the National Geographic Society and the

1848
01:37:54.279 --> 01:38:00.359
<v Speaker 3>American Association of Geographers. You have Claire's Dunton. He's from Yale.

1849
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Is a Yell dude. He worked for Pale as well

1850
01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:06.399
<v Speaker 3>and the US Geological Survey. You have a guy named

1851
01:38:06.399 --> 01:38:10.199
<v Speaker 3>Gerrick Mallory, also a Yale guy. He was an expert

1852
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:14.760
<v Speaker 3>on rock art, pictographs, and picture writing. He's a very

1853
01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:19.079
<v Speaker 3>interesting one, but I'll keep going here. He was in

1854
01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:23.039
<v Speaker 3>the Philadelphia Shakespeare Society and the Bureau of Ethnology, and

1855
01:38:23.079 --> 01:38:29.319
<v Speaker 3>the American Philosophical Society. You have Theodore Gill. This guy's

1856
01:38:29.319 --> 01:38:31.199
<v Speaker 3>a part of the Cosmos Club as well. He's the

1857
01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:36.239
<v Speaker 3>librarian of the Smithsonian. He's also, you know, associated with

1858
01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:41.039
<v Speaker 3>the Library of Congress in the American Philosophical Society. You

1859
01:38:41.199 --> 01:38:44.039
<v Speaker 3>have Henry Smith Pickett, who was the president of.

1860
01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:44.520
<v Speaker 4>Mi I T.

1861
01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:47.560
<v Speaker 3>He was involved with the Navy and a bunch of

1862
01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:50.720
<v Speaker 3>these other Carnegie stuff. You have William Harkness, he was

1863
01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:54.199
<v Speaker 3>an astronomer. He was the president for the American Association

1864
01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:55.680
<v Speaker 3>for the Advancement of Science.

1865
01:38:56.439 --> 01:38:56.800
<v Speaker 4>You have.

1866
01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:02.560
<v Speaker 3>The librarian at West Point who was an astronomer, Edward Holden.

1867
01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:05.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, real quick, I do you want to bring this out?

1868
01:39:05.239 --> 01:39:08.920
<v Speaker 4>The logo of the Cosmos Club founded eighteen seventy eight,

1869
01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:13.279
<v Speaker 4>Just so everyone's clear. It's a fucking globe. They've known

1870
01:39:13.279 --> 01:39:15.359
<v Speaker 4>about it for quite some time since ancient Greece. I

1871
01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:17.520
<v Speaker 4>know some people will say, well, the history books in

1872
01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:19.920
<v Speaker 4>the nineteen twenties didn't have it as a look yeah,

1873
01:39:20.119 --> 01:39:23.079
<v Speaker 4>eighteen seventy eight, America new it was a globe. But anyway,

1874
01:39:23.119 --> 01:39:24.960
<v Speaker 4>moving on, I'll.

1875
01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:26.439
<v Speaker 3>Just I'll keep it brief here and I'll give you

1876
01:39:26.479 --> 01:39:28.159
<v Speaker 3>just a couple more names here. I'm just trying to

1877
01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:30.439
<v Speaker 3>paint this picture of who these guys were. You also

1878
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:34.520
<v Speaker 3>had Frederick Endlich. He was kind of like a serious

1879
01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:37.079
<v Speaker 3>German dude who worked for the Smithsonian. We do know

1880
01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:40.319
<v Speaker 3>that about him. You had the president of Columbia University

1881
01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:43.239
<v Speaker 3>who was a co founder of the National Geographic Society

1882
01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:45.560
<v Speaker 3>named James Clark Welling was a part of it. These

1883
01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:47.760
<v Speaker 3>are all these guys are the founding members of this

1884
01:39:47.920 --> 01:39:50.479
<v Speaker 3>alongside Powell. By the way, these are the guys that

1885
01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:53.800
<v Speaker 3>he handpicked to start this with him. You had the

1886
01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:57.520
<v Speaker 3>first curator of the Smithsonian and assistant Secretary of the

1887
01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Smithsonian named Spencer Fullerton Bard. He's a part of this.

1888
01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:07.119
<v Speaker 3>You had a very interesting character named Emil Bessel's another

1889
01:40:07.159 --> 01:40:09.920
<v Speaker 3>strange German guy. He's a German royal who became a

1890
01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Smithsonian scientist, and he actually killed a guy on an

1891
01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:16.159
<v Speaker 3>expedition to the North Pole. So he's kind of shady.

1892
01:40:16.319 --> 01:40:19.039
<v Speaker 3>But so you see, these guys are all associated with

1893
01:40:19.119 --> 01:40:24.760
<v Speaker 3>government they're associated with these government type organizations, and they're

1894
01:40:24.760 --> 01:40:28.159
<v Speaker 3>associated with the Smithsonian. So this is a powerful group

1895
01:40:28.199 --> 01:40:31.720
<v Speaker 3>of people. That's these are your founding members of the

1896
01:40:31.720 --> 01:40:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Cosmos Club. So it was easy for them to sort

1897
01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:38.319
<v Speaker 3>of influence and steer the narrative in my opinion because

1898
01:40:38.319 --> 01:40:39.079
<v Speaker 3>of who they were.

1899
01:40:39.960 --> 01:40:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they're right in the history.

1900
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah. And I mean Powe himself who spearheads this though.

1901
01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:54.119
<v Speaker 3>He becomes the first director of the Bureau of Ethnology

1902
01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:57.960
<v Speaker 3>at the Smithsonian. So this is a little branch, this

1903
01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:01.039
<v Speaker 3>is a little section of the Smithsonian. They it's almost

1904
01:41:01.119 --> 01:41:04.920
<v Speaker 3>like they built just for him, almost the Bureau of

1905
01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:07.720
<v Speaker 3>Ethnology's purpose. Now, these guys are the ones who I'm

1906
01:41:07.720 --> 01:41:12.920
<v Speaker 3>telling you who facilitated this cover up right there. Sort

1907
01:41:12.960 --> 01:41:17.720
<v Speaker 3>of deal was that they were to transfer records and

1908
01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:22.159
<v Speaker 3>artifacts and materials relating to the Native Americans to the Department,

1909
01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>from the Department of the Interior to the Smithsonian. So

1910
01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:29.279
<v Speaker 3>they create the Bureau of Ethnology to sort of get

1911
01:41:29.319 --> 01:41:33.079
<v Speaker 3>this stuff, all these artifacts, all this proof in in

1912
01:41:33.159 --> 01:41:36.520
<v Speaker 3>the in the housing of the Smithsonian Institution where we

1913
01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:39.680
<v Speaker 3>know it's like the Vatican down there. They and once

1914
01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:41.760
<v Speaker 3>it goes in there, it's locked up, it's you'll never

1915
01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:45.800
<v Speaker 3>see it again. So Pale is the guy who spearheaded this.

1916
01:41:46.199 --> 01:41:49.600
<v Speaker 3>And and like when it comes to giants, there's a

1917
01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:54.119
<v Speaker 3>there's a really interesting case. It's one of many. It's

1918
01:41:54.159 --> 01:42:00.000
<v Speaker 3>called the the West Point Giant Case. It's it's uh

1919
01:42:00.359 --> 01:42:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Arkansas is what it's from. And it was it was

1920
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:06.560
<v Speaker 3>the Bureau of Ethnology who showed up in the late

1921
01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:09.800
<v Speaker 3>eighteen hundreds and took these giant bones that these people

1922
01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:14.199
<v Speaker 3>found in Arkansas. The river flooded one day and washed

1923
01:42:14.279 --> 01:42:16.840
<v Speaker 3>up part of the bank, and these people found giant

1924
01:42:16.840 --> 01:42:19.720
<v Speaker 3>bones there and they you know, I were talking about

1925
01:42:19.760 --> 01:42:23.520
<v Speaker 3>skulls three times in size of humans, of us, of

1926
01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:26.079
<v Speaker 3>normal humans, and like jawbones that you could pick up

1927
01:42:26.119 --> 01:42:29.960
<v Speaker 3>and put over your entire head. So and it was

1928
01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:33.640
<v Speaker 3>the Bureau of Ethnology who shows up and took that.

1929
01:42:34.359 --> 01:42:37.680
<v Speaker 3>So and that's just you know, we've all heard the stories.

1930
01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:40.439
<v Speaker 3>That's just one of many stories of how these guys

1931
01:42:41.479 --> 01:42:46.439
<v Speaker 3>the Smithsonian kind of operated. There's another cool case I

1932
01:42:46.479 --> 01:42:50.000
<v Speaker 3>was looking at. It's called the Salk Rapids, Minnesota Giant Case,

1933
01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:55.560
<v Speaker 3>also late eighteen hundreds. Basically, these guys were building the

1934
01:42:55.680 --> 01:43:01.720
<v Speaker 3>dam and they found an eleven foot giant in granite,

1935
01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:05.479
<v Speaker 3>like a like a granite coffin or something. Now, what

1936
01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:08.520
<v Speaker 3>they did was they the government sent in a guy

1937
01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:12.800
<v Speaker 3>named General Thomas at night by train and he took

1938
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:15.479
<v Speaker 3>those bones in the middle of the night. Now, while

1939
01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that that was the Smithsonian, I suspect

1940
01:43:19.640 --> 01:43:23.520
<v Speaker 3>it was the Union Civil War General Henry Thomas, who

1941
01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:26.600
<v Speaker 3>was like a part of the Department of Cumberland in

1942
01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky and Tennessee. And I think that's telling for several

1943
01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:33.239
<v Speaker 3>reasons for his for what he did, because he's someone

1944
01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:36.800
<v Speaker 3>who could follow orders. He's someone who he's like a

1945
01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:39.399
<v Speaker 3>hot shot government guy like the rest of these Cosmos

1946
01:43:39.439 --> 01:43:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Club guys. And he worked in an area right on

1947
01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:44.560
<v Speaker 3>the banks of the Cumberland where we know a ton

1948
01:43:44.600 --> 01:43:48.159
<v Speaker 3>of giants were found and stuff like that. So they

1949
01:43:48.279 --> 01:43:52.279
<v Speaker 3>the government was using guys like this, right, you know,

1950
01:43:52.439 --> 01:43:55.800
<v Speaker 3>you send in, you send in a respected general in

1951
01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:58.520
<v Speaker 3>this case, and nobody's going to tell him though. He

1952
01:43:58.600 --> 01:44:00.159
<v Speaker 3>comes in the middle of the knights, he gets the

1953
01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>bones and boom poof. You never see this.

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01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Stuff again, Oh dude, Like, look at this nine hundred

1955
01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:10.159
<v Speaker 2>pound ten foot giant Neanderthal once row, Minnesota, so it

1956
01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:14.319
<v Speaker 2>says the gigantic skeleton. A Michigan paper reports the discovery

1957
01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:18.439
<v Speaker 2>of a gigantic human in a rock near this sock rapids.

1958
01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:22.039
<v Speaker 2>It says, in quotes, the head is massive, thirty one

1959
01:44:22.039 --> 01:44:25.359
<v Speaker 2>and a half inches in circumference. It is low in

1960
01:44:25.439 --> 01:44:28.039
<v Speaker 2>the front and very flat on the top. The femur

1961
01:44:28.079 --> 01:44:31.319
<v Speaker 2>measures measures twenty six and a quarter inches, and the

1962
01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>fibula twenty six and a half inches, while the body

1963
01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:37.159
<v Speaker 2>is equally long in proportion. From the crown of the

1964
01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:39.399
<v Speaker 2>head to the sole of the foot, the length is

1965
01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>ten feet nine and a half inches. The measure around

1966
01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the chest is fifty nine and a half inches. This

1967
01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:49.199
<v Speaker 2>giant must have weighed at least nine hundred pounds. When

1968
01:44:49.239 --> 01:44:52.520
<v Speaker 2>covered with a reasonable amount of flesh. The petrified remains,

1969
01:44:52.680 --> 01:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and there is nothing left but the naked bones. Now dude.

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01:44:55.840 --> 01:44:59.760
<v Speaker 2>The bones weigh three hundred and four pounds. Holy shit,

1971
01:45:00.399 --> 01:45:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it says. The thumb and fingers of the left hand

1972
01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:06.399
<v Speaker 2>and the left foot from the angle to the toes

1973
01:45:06.439 --> 01:45:09.800
<v Speaker 2>are gone, but all of the other parts are perfect. Verily,

1974
01:45:10.079 --> 01:45:13.159
<v Speaker 2>there were giants in those days. This was in eighteen

1975
01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:13.640
<v Speaker 2>eighty four.

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01:45:14.399 --> 01:45:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think I think that Powell or somebody

1977
01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:21.960
<v Speaker 3>at the Smithsonian sent this general out there to confiscate

1978
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:25.000
<v Speaker 3>this one. That's that's what I've gathered from that, because

1979
01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:29.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, the thing is is like we've talked about

1980
01:45:29.039 --> 01:45:31.600
<v Speaker 3>two stories here, right, but there's so many more of

1981
01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:34.159
<v Speaker 3>these type of stories. And so I mean I looked

1982
01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:36.680
<v Speaker 3>in the pal some more because I wanted to get

1983
01:45:36.680 --> 01:45:39.680
<v Speaker 3>a feel for him, and like, I do not have

1984
01:45:39.800 --> 01:45:42.479
<v Speaker 3>much respect for this guy, but I'll just I'll just

1985
01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:45.640
<v Speaker 3>tell you what it is. Like, you know, he was

1986
01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:49.239
<v Speaker 3>influenced by a guy named Lewis Henry Morgan, who was

1987
01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:53.239
<v Speaker 3>the president of the American Association of Advanced Science in

1988
01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:56.199
<v Speaker 3>eighteen eighty. He Powell looked up to this guy, and

1989
01:45:56.239 --> 01:46:01.239
<v Speaker 3>this guy was a straight up contemporary Karl Marx and

1990
01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Darwin and Freud.

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01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh so that's.

1992
01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:08.920
<v Speaker 3>An indication to me where Powell's head was. I think

1993
01:46:08.960 --> 01:46:12.000
<v Speaker 3>he was he was very into Darwinism, I know that,

1994
01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:15.159
<v Speaker 3>and I think he was also into Marxism, and I

1995
01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:19.199
<v Speaker 3>think that those two things are excessively flawed personally.

1996
01:46:19.800 --> 01:46:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean allegedly Charles Darwin like pulled it

1997
01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:26.439
<v Speaker 2>all that all that back. He said that, you know,

1998
01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:29.520
<v Speaker 2>he didn't believe that humans came from monkeys, like on

1999
01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:31.119
<v Speaker 2>his deathbed. I don't know if that's a true story

2000
01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:32.279
<v Speaker 2>or not, but that's what they say.

2001
01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's a story I heard as well. So

2002
01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:38.119
<v Speaker 3>this is and this is an interesting case too. This

2003
01:46:38.119 --> 01:46:41.680
<v Speaker 3>this is in eighteen eighty, right, and you're seeing the

2004
01:46:41.840 --> 01:46:47.079
<v Speaker 3>advancement of the idea and the concept of Darwinism seeping into,

2005
01:46:48.520 --> 01:46:51.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, seeping in and getting an even tighter stranglehold

2006
01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:54.359
<v Speaker 3>on our nation. People in the government are starting to

2007
01:46:54.439 --> 01:46:58.079
<v Speaker 3>allow Darwinism to come in and be the main narrative.

2008
01:46:58.399 --> 01:47:02.079
<v Speaker 3>And I think that that's interesting, an interesting element to

2009
01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:04.479
<v Speaker 3>this case. Like, you know, it's like, how did we

2010
01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:09.159
<v Speaker 3>get here with like national geographic documentaries where you're just

2011
01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:12.720
<v Speaker 3>pounded with like millions of years and coming from apes

2012
01:47:12.760 --> 01:47:15.800
<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff. Well, it was just the theory

2013
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:18.840
<v Speaker 3>at one point. And I you know, if people want

2014
01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:21.479
<v Speaker 3>to believe in evolution and all that, that's fine, but

2015
01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:25.239
<v Speaker 3>I need you to know that it was pumped into

2016
01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:29.079
<v Speaker 3>your education system by elites. This is what they want

2017
01:47:29.119 --> 01:47:29.880
<v Speaker 3>you to believe.

2018
01:47:30.359 --> 01:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt, So, I mean, why isn't.

2019
01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Mean to go down that rabbit hole? But that's just how.

2020
01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:39.079
<v Speaker 4>Dude, If that's true when we all came from monkeys,

2021
01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:41.399
<v Speaker 4>then how do we still have monkeys? Were they the

2022
01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:43.880
<v Speaker 4>down syndrome and retarded monkeys back in the day that

2023
01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:47.600
<v Speaker 4>just didn't make the evolutionary jump or is there something extra?

2024
01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I can agree with evolution to the sense of adaptation, right,

2025
01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:56.000
<v Speaker 4>change if you will, some skin tone, some eye color,

2026
01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:59.359
<v Speaker 4>some hair color, all these things, but the same genome

2027
01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:03.159
<v Speaker 4>of speed. To say that the chihuahua is a descendant

2028
01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:05.880
<v Speaker 4>from the wolf, Okay, they're both canines. I could at

2029
01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:09.560
<v Speaker 4>least understand the thought process here to say that human

2030
01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:13.039
<v Speaker 4>beings came from monkeys as always before I even before

2031
01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:15.800
<v Speaker 4>you even put the religious aspect on it. That sounds

2032
01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:17.800
<v Speaker 4>so preposterous it's almost insulting.

2033
01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, then there's the stoned ape, the

2034
01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:25.199
<v Speaker 2>stoned ape theory, which I find at least interesting. You

2035
01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:27.399
<v Speaker 2>know that maybe some apes or some monkeys or whatever

2036
01:48:27.560 --> 01:48:31.640
<v Speaker 2>just stumbled across some mushrooms and bang, you know, sentience

2037
01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:32.279
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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01:48:32.399 --> 01:48:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Right, But we've given mushrooms to monkeys since then, and

2039
01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:39.399
<v Speaker 4>they don't like develop learning, they die and they move on,

2040
01:48:39.479 --> 01:48:42.319
<v Speaker 4>and their descendants are just as much monkeys as they were.

2041
01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:44.640
<v Speaker 4>We have. Yeah.

2042
01:48:44.680 --> 01:48:48.319
<v Speaker 3>The type of Darwinism that these guys were pushing was

2043
01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:55.800
<v Speaker 3>almost like a neo religion, void of saints and divine

2044
01:48:56.319 --> 01:48:58.920
<v Speaker 3>yes entities. This was a new This was like a

2045
01:48:59.039 --> 01:49:01.680
<v Speaker 3>secular religion. That's what they liked about this.

2046
01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:06.880
<v Speaker 4>It was the religion of science quote unquote yeah yeah yeah.

2047
01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:09.439
<v Speaker 3>And you know, like what I found here that I

2048
01:49:09.439 --> 01:49:13.439
<v Speaker 3>think is just a major smoking gun is this eighteen

2049
01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:18.279
<v Speaker 3>eighty report that Powell wrote in eighteen eighty. He sends

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01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:21.279
<v Speaker 3>this report to the secretary of the Smithsonian. This is

2051
01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:26.000
<v Speaker 3>basically like his boss or his contemporary. And so Powell

2052
01:49:26.920 --> 01:49:29.039
<v Speaker 3>lays out a lot of stuff here that I disagree with.

2053
01:49:29.079 --> 01:49:32.960
<v Speaker 3>And he starts by calling the Native Americans uncultured savages

2054
01:49:33.119 --> 01:49:37.520
<v Speaker 3>that lack higher intelligence. And he also said he wouldn't

2055
01:49:37.560 --> 01:49:40.600
<v Speaker 3>stand for any proof of lost tribes being over here.

2056
01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:44.560
<v Speaker 3>He says that he was not going to allow the

2057
01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:48.880
<v Speaker 3>dating of things earlier than the landing of Columbus in

2058
01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:49.479
<v Speaker 3>the New World.

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01:49:50.039 --> 01:49:52.560
<v Speaker 4>But see, that's the thing, dude, And I'm not disagreeing

2060
01:49:52.560 --> 01:49:55.800
<v Speaker 4>with anything you're saying. By the way, the racism goes

2061
01:49:55.880 --> 01:50:00.399
<v Speaker 4>back even farther than that Platinus and Plutarch, even in

2062
01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:04.239
<v Speaker 4>ancient Rome. We're speaking about how sub Saharan Africans were

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01:50:04.680 --> 01:50:07.960
<v Speaker 4>savages that were incapable of taking care of themselves and

2064
01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:13.239
<v Speaker 4>this that, and third like overt racist ideologies to say

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01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:15.199
<v Speaker 4>that if they're black, there's no way they could build

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01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:20.000
<v Speaker 4>anything of worth. Plutinis Neoplatonism wrote about that. Plutarch and

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01:50:20.079 --> 01:50:22.439
<v Speaker 4>the first thing of what we might call an encyclopedia

2068
01:50:22.479 --> 01:50:26.239
<v Speaker 4>today wrote about that. That doesn't make it accurate or true.

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01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:29.319
<v Speaker 4>That shows the cultural racism of the day and age

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01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:31.880
<v Speaker 4>to where they were writing from. So I'm with you

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent.

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01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:50:33.079 --> 01:50:35.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you got to think too, like part of

2074
01:50:35.199 --> 01:50:38.000
<v Speaker 3>the things that they're covering up here are these very

2075
01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:40.520
<v Speaker 3>intricate mounds that use trigonometry like.

2076
01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:42.680
<v Speaker 4>And advanced massacre geometry.

2077
01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:46.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, these people weren't savages, like they were anything but

2078
01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:50.000
<v Speaker 3>that even the Cherokee were not savages. They had they

2079
01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:54.159
<v Speaker 3>built buildings and cities and had written language and et cetera.

2080
01:50:54.279 --> 01:50:58.239
<v Speaker 3>But so Pale says, you know, if it if it

2081
01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:03.800
<v Speaker 3>is dated before Columbus, Uh, they they would not connect

2082
01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:08.119
<v Speaker 3>the artifacts to the New World. Okay, how do I

2083
01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:09.960
<v Speaker 3>say this? This is this is tough, This is tough

2084
01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:14.279
<v Speaker 3>to put in the words. Basically, he's saying that if

2085
01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:16.840
<v Speaker 3>it's older than Columbus, they're just gonna throw it out.

2086
01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:20.840
<v Speaker 3>And he's saying that if if we found found article

2087
01:51:21.079 --> 01:51:24.800
<v Speaker 3>artifacts here that date before Columbus and they link up

2088
01:51:24.840 --> 01:51:27.960
<v Speaker 3>to other cultures around the world, they were gonna throw

2089
01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:30.079
<v Speaker 3>it out. They didn't want that linkage there.

2090
01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:32.680
<v Speaker 4>They can't be. They weren't white. How could they have

2091
01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:35.199
<v Speaker 4>that right? That was That's my point, dude, This is

2092
01:51:35.239 --> 01:51:36.079
<v Speaker 4>fucking absurd.

2093
01:51:36.439 --> 01:51:39.840
<v Speaker 3>This is what he said. He says the dispersements dispersement

2094
01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:43.600
<v Speaker 3>of Man was so long ago that it wasn't worth

2095
01:51:43.640 --> 01:51:47.880
<v Speaker 3>looking into for connections between cultures. So he says, there's

2096
01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:50.720
<v Speaker 3>no reason to look for the origins of lost tribes

2097
01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:53.279
<v Speaker 3>or any of the artifacts found in relation to mans

2098
01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:55.359
<v Speaker 3>or artifacts because it was so long ago. It doesn't

2099
01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:57.920
<v Speaker 3>even matter. It just doesn't even make sense. He's just

2100
01:51:58.600 --> 01:52:02.720
<v Speaker 3>finding a reason to cover this stuff. I mean, it's

2101
01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:04.840
<v Speaker 3>a rag I read this thing. It's it's a total

2102
01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:07.399
<v Speaker 3>rag man. I mean, he didn't write a report. He

2103
01:52:07.439 --> 01:52:09.159
<v Speaker 3>wrote a shifty book.

2104
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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01:52:10.479 --> 01:52:12.920
<v Speaker 3>It was like, you know, like listening to the guy

2106
01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:17.039
<v Speaker 3>on the matrix in the white suit, right, the's overly verbos.

2107
01:52:17.159 --> 01:52:19.880
<v Speaker 3>He's just trying to sound intelligent, and it's just like,

2108
01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:21.640
<v Speaker 3>just just say what you want to say, man, just

2109
01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:25.359
<v Speaker 3>make it make sense. He's trying to Everything is overdone

2110
01:52:25.359 --> 01:52:29.760
<v Speaker 3>in this report and it's meant to sound intelligent and

2111
01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:33.479
<v Speaker 3>not to be questioned. So this guy's everything that's wrong

2112
01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:35.760
<v Speaker 3>with DC. And if you look in this report, like

2113
01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:39.760
<v Speaker 3>it's very dense, the language is very dense, it's very verbose,

2114
01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:43.000
<v Speaker 3>like I said, But what he's saying here is that

2115
01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:45.359
<v Speaker 3>things are going to be thrown out, things are going

2116
01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:47.079
<v Speaker 3>to be covered up, or things are just not going

2117
01:52:47.119 --> 01:52:49.079
<v Speaker 3>to be looked at if they don't fit a certain

2118
01:52:49.119 --> 01:52:54.399
<v Speaker 3>criteria because it lines right up with manifest destiny. They

2119
01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:57.840
<v Speaker 3>wanted the natives to be and the people who came

2120
01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:02.319
<v Speaker 3>before us to be savages. That way they could and

2121
01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:05.479
<v Speaker 3>an unintelligent and that way they could like justify taking

2122
01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:10.600
<v Speaker 3>their lands. Yeah, they didn't want us people looking at

2123
01:53:10.800 --> 01:53:13.399
<v Speaker 3>They didn't want we the people looking at these artifacts

2124
01:53:13.600 --> 01:53:16.319
<v Speaker 3>that some of them are power Hebrew, right, Like I

2125
01:53:16.359 --> 01:53:19.079
<v Speaker 3>think I mentioned that, like the grave, the Grave Creed,

2126
01:53:19.199 --> 01:53:24.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, the Back creekstone is Paleo Hebrew. And the

2127
01:53:24.159 --> 01:53:28.119
<v Speaker 3>Smithsonian itself found that and they had to call it

2128
01:53:28.159 --> 01:53:31.439
<v Speaker 3>a hoax later on because it doesn't fit their narrative, right.

2129
01:53:31.520 --> 01:53:34.720
<v Speaker 2>I almost wonder if it's you know, I'm I'm sure

2130
01:53:35.119 --> 01:53:38.199
<v Speaker 2>with with the racist kind of ideology for sure, Like

2131
01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:42.199
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, obviously not good. But I think that

2132
01:53:42.239 --> 01:53:44.159
<v Speaker 2>it's it goes even beyond that, dude, I think that

2133
01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:47.039
<v Speaker 2>it's classism more than anything else. Like you got to

2134
01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:49.399
<v Speaker 2>think these people, they think that they're so intelligent, they

2135
01:53:49.439 --> 01:53:51.359
<v Speaker 2>have so much power, they have so much wealth, they

2136
01:53:51.399 --> 01:53:54.640
<v Speaker 2>have so much pool in everything, and everybody beneath them

2137
01:53:55.279 --> 01:53:59.359
<v Speaker 2>is is kind of the savage or or the class

2138
01:53:59.399 --> 01:54:01.760
<v Speaker 2>that is building up your economy or carrying out whatever

2139
01:54:01.800 --> 01:54:04.640
<v Speaker 2>it is that you're trying to, you know, build your

2140
01:54:04.680 --> 01:54:07.039
<v Speaker 2>city for I think that they look at the elite

2141
01:54:07.079 --> 01:54:09.520
<v Speaker 2>of the elite doesn't give a shit about what race

2142
01:54:09.560 --> 01:54:11.479
<v Speaker 2>you are. In my opinion, I think that they look

2143
01:54:11.520 --> 01:54:14.800
<v Speaker 2>at you. Are you poor? Can you contribute? You know

2144
01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:16.880
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like, I think that that's really what

2145
01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:20.560
<v Speaker 2>it is. I mean, especially nowadays. Back then, I would

2146
01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:22.560
<v Speaker 2>actually make the argument that was probably what was going

2147
01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:25.439
<v Speaker 2>on back then. I mean, maybe you can call it racism.

2148
01:54:25.439 --> 01:54:28.840
<v Speaker 2>But if you're looking if you're a if you're a

2149
01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:32.159
<v Speaker 2>white British guy, and you come over here, you know,

2150
01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:36.359
<v Speaker 2>back whenever allegedly, you know, America was founded or whatever.

2151
01:54:37.399 --> 01:54:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you're if you're just looking at

2152
01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:42.439
<v Speaker 2>the Indians and saying, oh, they're just stupid Indians, like

2153
01:54:42.520 --> 01:54:44.359
<v Speaker 2>they don't know shit, they're just you know, living in

2154
01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:47.560
<v Speaker 2>TV's and stuff. It makes me wonder if like they

2155
01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:50.880
<v Speaker 2>just thought of themselves so highly that it caused them

2156
01:54:50.920 --> 01:54:53.800
<v Speaker 2>to look at everybody else as beneath them in a sense.

2157
01:54:55.600 --> 01:54:58.079
<v Speaker 4>Blue bloods, yeah, one hundred percent. But I mean even

2158
01:54:58.159 --> 01:55:01.319
<v Speaker 4>that's what That's the thing though. Here in Africa, native

2159
01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:04.960
<v Speaker 4>tribes of far East Orient, Oh my god, they're so

2160
01:55:05.079 --> 01:55:07.640
<v Speaker 4>far removed from the blue blood conversation that's not even

2161
01:55:07.680 --> 01:55:09.640
<v Speaker 4>worth having, you know what I mean. That was a

2162
01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:14.279
<v Speaker 4>mixture of elitism and racism all into a big nasty

2163
01:55:14.319 --> 01:55:20.000
<v Speaker 4>pile that we would now call a colonialism or imperialism. Right. Yeah.

2164
01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:22.760
<v Speaker 3>They wanted everything to be looked at as an empty

2165
01:55:22.840 --> 01:55:26.039
<v Speaker 3>valley before we came and built our magnificent cities. And

2166
01:55:26.560 --> 01:55:29.159
<v Speaker 3>as I'm kind of hopefully demonstrated today, that was not

2167
01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:34.600
<v Speaker 3>the case. Like the Pittsburgh was an ancient city, Manhattan, etc.

2168
01:55:34.960 --> 01:55:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis. These were ancient cities. They weren't empty valleys Nashville.

2169
01:55:39.720 --> 01:55:42.039
<v Speaker 3>I could tell you all this crazy stuff I found

2170
01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:45.479
<v Speaker 3>in Nashville. There was an ancient civilization here. And I

2171
01:55:45.520 --> 01:55:48.119
<v Speaker 3>think once you see pal come on the scene in

2172
01:55:48.159 --> 01:55:51.239
<v Speaker 3>eighteen eighty, this starts to kind of coincide with the

2173
01:55:51.279 --> 01:55:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Industrial Revolution. And what does that do? Back to Jonathan's point,

2174
01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:58.159
<v Speaker 3>the Industrial Revolution, And I think that this was part

2175
01:55:58.199 --> 01:56:02.039
<v Speaker 3>of the plan. It helps create a work class of workers,

2176
01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:07.479
<v Speaker 3>a class of just nine to five zombies exactly.

2177
01:56:07.680 --> 01:56:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well, I mean and look at the school system.

2178
01:56:11.119 --> 01:56:14.600
<v Speaker 2>That's what it's designed for, working class people. It wasn't

2179
01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:17.520
<v Speaker 2>designed for people who want to build businesses or you know,

2180
01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:21.680
<v Speaker 2>create inventions or be ever anything it lead to at all.

2181
01:56:21.760 --> 01:56:24.600
<v Speaker 2>It was never designed for that, you know. And I

2182
01:56:25.640 --> 01:56:28.000
<v Speaker 2>think it carries on to today. Like even with the

2183
01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:31.239
<v Speaker 2>schooling today, dude, it's so different from whenever we were

2184
01:56:31.279 --> 01:56:33.880
<v Speaker 2>back in school, but it's just as fucking dumb, you

2185
01:56:33.880 --> 01:56:36.560
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like I'm not gonna lie, I

2186
01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:38.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't really pay a whole lot of attention in high

2187
01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:40.600
<v Speaker 2>school or in school in general. I was more worried

2188
01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:43.279
<v Speaker 2>about football and chicks, you know what I mean. But

2189
01:56:43.760 --> 01:56:48.640
<v Speaker 2>it was. I don't know. I didn't find it very fascinating.

2190
01:56:48.680 --> 01:56:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't find it very intriguing. And I think that

2191
01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:51.439
<v Speaker 2>I think.

2192
01:56:52.119 --> 01:56:55.479
<v Speaker 3>The stuff that is fascinating and intriguing was not told.

2193
01:56:55.279 --> 01:56:56.720
<v Speaker 2>To They took it out, That's what I'm saying.

2194
01:56:56.760 --> 01:56:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I imagine if we were taught this stuff

2195
01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:03.960
<v Speaker 3>in school. Man, this is awesome. Giants freaking trigonometry mounds

2196
01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.159
<v Speaker 3>like what like people talking to star people what exactly?

2197
01:57:08.880 --> 01:57:13.119
<v Speaker 3>It's great, giants like bigfoot, little people. Man, this was

2198
01:57:13.159 --> 01:57:16.399
<v Speaker 3>like Narnia over here. It was awesome. I mean, it

2199
01:57:16.439 --> 01:57:18.439
<v Speaker 3>may not have been awesome to live here and have

2200
01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:22.960
<v Speaker 3>to worry about warring tribes, but like the I don't

2201
01:57:22.960 --> 01:57:26.439
<v Speaker 3>know the legendary status. Man, the ground beneath our feet

2202
01:57:26.520 --> 01:57:29.159
<v Speaker 3>was so much more interesting than they've led us to believe.

2203
01:57:29.399 --> 01:57:31.079
<v Speaker 3>And I think it's important that we have a name

2204
01:57:31.199 --> 01:57:33.479
<v Speaker 3>for some of this stuff that because you know, everybody

2205
01:57:33.479 --> 01:57:36.279
<v Speaker 3>says it's Smithsonian cover up, Smithsonian cover up. I agree

2206
01:57:36.319 --> 01:57:38.399
<v Speaker 3>with that, but like we need to know a little

2207
01:57:38.399 --> 01:57:40.239
<v Speaker 3>bit more about that. And I think it's important to

2208
01:57:40.239 --> 01:57:42.760
<v Speaker 3>know about this guy, John Wesley Powell, because he's a

2209
01:57:42.760 --> 01:57:45.439
<v Speaker 3>big reason why you won't hear about the Native Americans

2210
01:57:45.439 --> 01:57:48.439
<v Speaker 3>who spoke Welsh or Hebrew or any of the other

2211
01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:50.880
<v Speaker 3>out of place artifacts that were found over here, even

2212
01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:53.560
<v Speaker 3>in the Grand Canyon. They sent Powle down the Grand

2213
01:57:53.600 --> 01:57:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Canyon and I think he found those whatever they were,

2214
01:57:57.319 --> 01:57:59.680
<v Speaker 3>possibly Egyptian temples.

2215
01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, got a bunch of hieroglyphs and fucking giant

2216
01:58:03.159 --> 01:58:05.920
<v Speaker 2>doorways and stuff like that. And you're not even allowed

2217
01:58:05.960 --> 01:58:09.079
<v Speaker 2>to go and see a lot of the Grand Canyon. Dude.

2218
01:58:09.079 --> 01:58:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I went there. It was one of the most boring

2219
01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:12.840
<v Speaker 2>things I ever did, because you have to stay on

2220
01:58:12.840 --> 01:58:15.960
<v Speaker 2>one trail basically the entire time. And you know, it's

2221
01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:18.279
<v Speaker 2>cool to look at it, but you got to drive

2222
01:58:18.319 --> 01:58:21.000
<v Speaker 2>several hours to get there just to be like, oh,

2223
01:58:21.319 --> 01:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>oh okay, you know what else, I like, I want

2224
01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>to see something more like it's still a sight to see,

2225
01:58:25.920 --> 01:58:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I it's it would be a lot

2226
01:58:28.079 --> 01:58:29.640
<v Speaker 2>cooler if we can go down there.

2227
01:58:29.680 --> 01:58:32.039
<v Speaker 3>And I went there too, man, I'm with you, Like

2228
01:58:32.079 --> 01:58:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I just stood at the edge and just kind of

2229
01:58:33.920 --> 01:58:36.520
<v Speaker 3>looked over and that was it, you know. But even

2230
01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:39.039
<v Speaker 3>those sites where they let the tourists go, it's like

2231
01:58:40.079 --> 01:58:42.199
<v Speaker 3>there's you're not allowed to really go down in there.

2232
01:58:42.239 --> 01:58:43.920
<v Speaker 3>If you get lucky or I think if you pay

2233
01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:46.600
<v Speaker 3>for it, you could go down by donkey being led

2234
01:58:46.640 --> 01:58:48.319
<v Speaker 3>by a guide and you go down there and like

2235
01:58:48.359 --> 01:58:52.000
<v Speaker 3>circle back pretty quickly, they don't. You can't go into

2236
01:58:52.079 --> 01:58:58.239
<v Speaker 3>the This is like the Grandons, like almost like lataristically

2237
01:58:58.279 --> 01:59:00.800
<v Speaker 3>blocked off. You can't go in. You can't even fly

2238
01:59:00.960 --> 01:59:04.079
<v Speaker 3>in there. What are they hiding, right.

2239
01:59:04.319 --> 01:59:06.479
<v Speaker 2>They got to be hiding something due and.

2240
01:59:06.319 --> 01:59:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to do the same with Greenland. Honestly,

2241
01:59:08.560 --> 01:59:11.720
<v Speaker 3>to circle back to that, I think that's why Trump

2242
01:59:11.800 --> 01:59:13.880
<v Speaker 3>might have some good reasons for want in Greenland. He

2243
01:59:13.960 --> 01:59:17.319
<v Speaker 3>actually might, but I think what's going to happen, And

2244
01:59:17.359 --> 01:59:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I think the reason why, like for instance, at the inauguration,

2245
01:59:20.600 --> 01:59:22.960
<v Speaker 3>all the big tech guys that were there right like

2246
01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:29.279
<v Speaker 3>like Musk, Bezos and Zuck all those guys, they've invested

2247
01:59:29.520 --> 01:59:34.800
<v Speaker 3>millions of dollars recently into Greenland, into these projects that

2248
01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:38.560
<v Speaker 3>sort of bank on us getting Greenland. And I think

2249
01:59:38.800 --> 01:59:41.079
<v Speaker 3>what they're going to do is they're going to remilitarize

2250
01:59:41.119 --> 01:59:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Greenland like Bird was talking about back in the fifties,

2251
01:59:44.479 --> 01:59:46.640
<v Speaker 3>and it's going to become like Antarctica where you just

2252
01:59:47.039 --> 01:59:50.880
<v Speaker 3>people can't go they block it off and the secrets

2253
01:59:50.880 --> 01:59:51.840
<v Speaker 3>are secrets forever.

2254
01:59:53.560 --> 01:59:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there has canyon. It has to be

2255
01:59:56.560 --> 01:59:58.920
<v Speaker 2>something to it. And I think that the argument for

2256
01:59:59.119 --> 02:00:04.560
<v Speaker 2>extraterrestrials actually coming from this planet or plane or whatever

2257
02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:06.560
<v Speaker 2>you want to look at it as, I think it

2258
02:00:06.560 --> 02:00:10.000
<v Speaker 2>makes a lot of sense. Extra terrain, extraterrestrial. Could they

2259
02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:12.560
<v Speaker 2>be coming from the outskirts wherever that may be. Could

2260
02:00:12.600 --> 02:00:14.680
<v Speaker 2>the world be a lot bigger than what they're telling

2261
02:00:14.760 --> 02:00:17.520
<v Speaker 2>us only the elites have access to be able to

2262
02:00:17.560 --> 02:00:21.760
<v Speaker 2>go anywhere beyond that. Uh and and also to space,

2263
02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:24.880
<v Speaker 2>like there was that whole Katie Perry bullshit with them

2264
02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:27.000
<v Speaker 2>going up in space like that was a joke. Like

2265
02:00:27.039 --> 02:00:29.960
<v Speaker 2>they've actually debunked that they didn't even go already, Like

2266
02:00:30.119 --> 02:00:33.560
<v Speaker 2>so many like scientists and people are chiming in. They're like, dude,

2267
02:00:33.560 --> 02:00:35.560
<v Speaker 2>look at it, like this this shit is faker than

2268
02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:37.560
<v Speaker 2>the moon landing in the sixties, you know.

2269
02:00:37.840 --> 02:00:40.600
<v Speaker 3>And there's like a music video shoot just like that's

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<v Speaker 3>why they got her to do it, because you see,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody can come in and make a music video. That's

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<v Speaker 3>all that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, for sure, I like you.

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<v Speaker 3>I like what you're saying too about like I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's something to the crypto terrestrial hypothesis. And it's not

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<v Speaker 3>because Harvard says so, I know that they put that

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<v Speaker 3>paper out recently. I just think it's something that you

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<v Speaker 3>see in mythologies, like this idea that there are inner

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<v Speaker 3>Earth beings, and like even even in the Native War,

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<v Speaker 3>like I found that, you know, speaking of cities, ancient cities,

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<v Speaker 3>like where Asheville, North Carolina is today, I think they

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<v Speaker 3>built that on top of an ancient city. And and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that I found some evidence that the Cherokee

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<v Speaker 3>were living there way back when where Asheville is today.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Cherokee have a legend it's right there off

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<v Speaker 3>the French Broad River. They have a legend that they

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<v Speaker 3>were again a time of troubles like drought and warring

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<v Speaker 3>tribes and all that. And uh, the their main shaman

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<v Speaker 3>was meditated or fasting for seven days and he got

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<v Speaker 3>in touch with the inner earth little people from Pilot

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<v Speaker 3>Mountain what And the little people of Pilot Mountain told

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<v Speaker 3>the shaman, like, we'll take you in to inner Earth

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<v Speaker 3>with us so you can get out of this this

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<v Speaker 3>hard time, so you can have a you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>relief shelter. But the people who want to come with

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<v Speaker 3>us into inner Earth. They just need to do like

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<v Speaker 3>you did and fast for seven days, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>can come into the earth. So the legend is that

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<v Speaker 3>some of the people that wanted to escape the hardships

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<v Speaker 3>fasted for seven days and went with the little people

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<v Speaker 3>into like a pearl in Pilot Mountain.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm I'm gonna fast for seven days because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready to fucking go. You know what I'm saying, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's time. Yeah, that sounds so sick. I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>that's true. Like that would be so awesome if it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you hear a bunch.

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<v Speaker 4>Of seven days and find out I would love to

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<v Speaker 4>see you do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you got to go there, right, Like, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to be in the region in order for them

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<v Speaker 2>to come up to you after the seven day fast?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is it astral.

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<v Speaker 3>I got the impression that there was some astral I

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<v Speaker 3>got the impression that the shaman went into the astral

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<v Speaker 3>room to receive that knowledge in the first place. For sure,

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about some very very spiritual people.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't mean that in a demeaning way. Look, even

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<v Speaker 4>as a Christian, I've heard many many people that go

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<v Speaker 4>on a food fast they say, after the third day,

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<v Speaker 4>you achieve a spiritual enlightenment that you couldn't have achieved otherwise.

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<v Speaker 4>So like, look, bro, I'm not throwing shade at this, Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 4>Please go on a seven day fast and let's see

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<v Speaker 4>what you find on the other side. I'm here for

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<v Speaker 4>this fucking smoke, Bro, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that there probably is some kind of spiritual nosis

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<v Speaker 2>that comes with that. I've the longest I've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to fastest three days after that. I mean, I mean,

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02:03:38.600 --> 02:03:40.760
<v Speaker 2>you feel like you're fucking dying on that third day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie, but I would be interested.

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<v Speaker 4>In your physical self is dying, but your spiritual self

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02:03:48.239 --> 02:03:49.800
<v Speaker 4>is rebuilt, reborning.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Shed this old carcass. Baby, I'm ready to be done

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02:03:52.840 --> 02:03:57.159
<v Speaker 2>with it, you know, But yeah, I think I might

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02:03:57.199 --> 02:03:59.560
<v Speaker 2>have to give it a try. But yeah, dude, look,

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<v Speaker 2>this was a fun and very entertaining, very knowledgeable type

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02:04:03.439 --> 02:04:07.199
<v Speaker 2>of episode. Like I think you gave the people a

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02:04:07.239 --> 02:04:09.760
<v Speaker 2>lot to go and research and a lot to you know,

2339
02:04:09.920 --> 02:04:13.720
<v Speaker 2>meditate and stuff on. If you could, could you let

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02:04:13.760 --> 02:04:15.840
<v Speaker 2>all the good cult members out there know where to

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<v Speaker 2>find you, sir?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I will, and thanks guys. I had a blast today.

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<v Speaker 3>I apologize for the internet thing. That's this is the

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<v Speaker 3>first time I've ever really had an issue with this,

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02:04:26.039 --> 02:04:28.039
<v Speaker 3>so I'll try to fix it. But I'd love to

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02:04:28.079 --> 02:04:30.680
<v Speaker 3>do this again with you guys. Sometimes I actually really

2347
02:04:30.760 --> 02:04:34.560
<v Speaker 3>enjoy talking to you. Same cool, Let's do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>My podcast is sixth Censury podcast I'm on Spotify, Apple, Instagent.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, let me start that over again. I should

2350
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<v Speaker 3>know this, right, I should know Spotify, Apple, Patreon, and

2351
02:04:47.399 --> 02:04:52.159
<v Speaker 3>YouTube and I have an Instagram. There we go and yeah, yeah,

2352
02:04:52.359 --> 02:04:55.600
<v Speaker 3>sixth Censury Podcasts. Tim Constantine, come check out my stuff

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<v Speaker 3>if you liked anything you heard today. I dive into

2354
02:04:58.119 --> 02:04:59.960
<v Speaker 3>these topics and more on there all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, dude. I love the angle that you take,

2356
02:05:03.039 --> 02:05:06.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, just on a journey for truth, doesn't even

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02:05:06.359 --> 02:05:09.720
<v Speaker 2>matter like that's I vibe with that. I'm somebody that's, like,

2358
02:05:10.119 --> 02:05:14.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, personally, I like to look into certain you know,

2359
02:05:14.439 --> 02:05:18.479
<v Speaker 2>articles and concepts and videos and what are the mythologies

2360
02:05:18.520 --> 02:05:22.800
<v Speaker 2>around certain things, not necessarily taking it completely at face value,

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02:05:22.840 --> 02:05:25.680
<v Speaker 2>but see if it correlates with other information and see

2362
02:05:25.760 --> 02:05:27.720
<v Speaker 2>what kind of rabbit holes you can go down into.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that way of research, man, So we h

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<v Speaker 2>we appreciate you. We definitely got to do it again

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<v Speaker 2>pretty soon too, I think, because I really enjoyed this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry for me and Jacob getting into a little tiff earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>We're it's brotherly love at this point. Oh you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Call that a tiff. For any cult member that's listening,

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<v Speaker 4>think that that was us having a heated talk, then

2371
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<v Speaker 4>you ain't been here long enough. We don't fight. We

2372
02:05:51.039 --> 02:05:53.479
<v Speaker 4>disagree about things and we talk about it. But like

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02:05:53.520 --> 02:05:56.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, as people would say, like you know, when

2374
02:05:56.479 --> 02:05:59.279
<v Speaker 4>is the time and place to have these conversations. I

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02:05:59.319 --> 02:06:03.359
<v Speaker 4>am one that leaves that a podcast based around blowing

2376
02:06:03.399 --> 02:06:07.239
<v Speaker 4>the lid off of conspiracies and cult knowledge, this is

2377
02:06:07.319 --> 02:06:10.439
<v Speaker 4>the fucking time and place to have these conversations, if ever,

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02:06:10.720 --> 02:06:11.319
<v Speaker 4>so you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, it is, And that's part of what makes

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02:06:14.399 --> 02:06:17.399
<v Speaker 2>this show really run really well is that we have

2381
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<v Speaker 2>very differing opinions. It's never going to be an echo chamber.

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<v Speaker 2>And also it is a cult collective. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>have you know, uh, been been listening for a little while,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll know that we have Josh Monday coming on Wednesdays

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<v Speaker 2>and Sundays. I know, we kind of missed the mark

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<v Speaker 2>there on not putting him on Mondays, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's for you know, spiritual reasons why he's on Sundays

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<v Speaker 2>and Mondays. But then we have Deplorable Jane Wednesday Sundays

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<v Speaker 2>and Wednesday. Sorry, but then we have a Deplorable Janet

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesdays. We have a Strange Brew and Cosmic Peach.

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<v Speaker 2>On Saturdays, we have the Cajun Night which comes out

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursdays, and also Meta Mysteries comes out on Mondays

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<v Speaker 2>and Fridays. So we are really trying to turn this

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<v Speaker 2>into an all out cult color over here. So yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely check out all the other shows. They appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that there's been a lot of good cult

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<v Speaker 2>members out there that have been reaching out to us

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<v Speaker 2>saying how much they love all the extra shows. We're

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<v Speaker 2>literally putting out fourteen shows a week, dude, and we

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<v Speaker 2>plan on building on that here in the future. So

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, I mean, if you want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>do it is go to Patreon dot com slash cult

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<v Speaker 2>So come check us out over at Patreon, and uh

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<v Speaker 2>we appreciate all the good Cult members who have already

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, if you would like to support the show in

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<v Speaker 2>And with that being said, that was another beautiful episode

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<v Speaker 2>of the Culps of Conspiracy. And my name is Jonathan,

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