Speaker 1: Uh now, I'm excited. It's an honor. Today.
Speaker 2: What we're gonna do is we're gonna be talking about
Speaker 2: the gifts, the what the gifts of God. So there's
Speaker 2: many gifts from God, and so when we talk about gifts,
Speaker 2: probably a lot of things kind of pop up in
Speaker 2: our head.
Speaker 1: About what a gift is or what it is not.
Speaker 2: Uh So we're gonna we're gonna chat through a few
Speaker 2: things today. But in the Word, there are actually multiple
Speaker 2: types of gifts, and you may have seen it organized
Speaker 2: something like this. You have the office gifts or the
Speaker 2: fivefold minister gifts. How many have heard of those before?
Speaker 2: Raise your hand? Have you heard of those before?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So these are going to be Oh I gotta get
Speaker 2: this pen. Okay, so this this is the powerful anointed pen.
Speaker 1: This is the pastor Dwayne Penn.
Speaker 2: So, Pastor Dwayne, if you're listening, I'm totally keeping this, okay.
Speaker 2: Uh But so the office gifts, these are the fivefold gifts.
Speaker 2: These are gonna be out of Ephesians four. Everyone say
Speaker 2: Ephesians four. Okay, So if you want to do some
Speaker 2: homework on that, you can do that. I don't have
Speaker 2: time to read it today. The motivational gifts, these are
Speaker 2: like ways that people are motivated to serve. That's the
Speaker 2: traditional way that people look at it. And so motivational
Speaker 2: gifts are out of Romans twelve. Everyone say Romans twelve, perfect, okay.
Speaker 2: And then the manifestational gifts. These are the gifts that
Speaker 2: you can think about these as like the gifts of
Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit. Traditionally we talk about it like that,
Speaker 2: these are ways that God, the Holy Spirit manifests himself
Speaker 2: in the earth through these gifts. And so you have
Speaker 2: things like the prophetic right, discerning of spirits, speaking in tongues,
Speaker 2: gifts of healings, that kind of thing, And so that
Speaker 2: would be out of one Corinthians twelve.
Speaker 1: Everyone say one Corinthians twelve. Okay. So we have a
Speaker 1: few cool.
Speaker 2: Things happening today, and I want to chat through a
Speaker 2: few of these, and then we're going to go into
Speaker 2: a few billion points. One thing about gifts is is
Speaker 2: that they're super important. Why is a gift important? Helps
Speaker 2: the body grow, it blesses shows God's glory. Think about
Speaker 2: when you give a gift on Christmas. If you're giving
Speaker 2: a gift, what does it say about the person you're
Speaker 2: giving it to? They're valued, they're loved, they're respected, they're esteemed. Right,
Speaker 2: we give gifts to others because it's actually a form
Speaker 2: of honor because you're seeing them as they are, as
Speaker 2: a child of the King. So it's important for us
Speaker 2: when we think about gifts. It's the same way God
Speaker 2: loves to give gifts to people because it shows his
Speaker 2: honor and his value, his esteem for them.
Speaker 1: Amen.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna chat through a few of these differences.
Speaker 2: First off, these office gifts are five full ministry giftings. Okay,
Speaker 2: we look at these. There's something interesting about these. The
Speaker 2: person is actually the gift. Let me say that again,
Speaker 2: the person is actually the gift. Who are they given
Speaker 2: to the Body of Christ, the body of believers. So
Speaker 2: we're called as the collective Church, big c Church, not
Speaker 2: just UFUS here but everywhere around the world. We're collectively
Speaker 2: called the Church or the Ecclesea. But we're the Body
Speaker 2: of Christ.
Speaker 1: And so these five.
Speaker 2: Groupings of giftings have been given to the Church for
Speaker 2: us to equip the saints for the work of ministry.
Speaker 2: We think these five full ministers are there to do
Speaker 2: the ministry, and we just sit and watch them do it.
Speaker 2: How many grew up with that as a reality. Be honest, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're doing it right now, Just kidding, just kidding. But
Speaker 2: you're looking at this and they are meant to equip
Speaker 2: you for the works of ministry. They don't actually, can
Speaker 2: I tell you something. They don't have to be the
Speaker 2: most flashy gifting like, for example, prophet. They don't have
Speaker 2: to be the most prophetic one in the room to
Speaker 2: be called a prophet.
Speaker 1: What why?
Speaker 2: Because New Testament prophet is called to equip the saints
Speaker 2: for the work of ministry.
Speaker 1: So what is their goal? They're under aligned desire?
Speaker 2: It's to build us up so we can say the
Speaker 2: things that God is saying about people, to see a
Speaker 2: world transformed as the world was created by words. The
Speaker 2: prophet is teaching us how to prophesy so that the
Speaker 2: world is transformed around us.
Speaker 1: They're equipping us. Everyone say amen.
Speaker 2: But they don't have to be the flashiest prophetic voice
Speaker 2: in the world to be considered a prophet. An office
Speaker 2: of a prophet? Does that make sense? Do they have
Speaker 2: a gifting in the prophetic? Oh for sure, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: But there's a separation between an office gift and a
Speaker 2: manifestational gift. Okay, we could look at the other ones evangelists, apostle, pastor, teach.
Speaker 2: We look at these five and how many have heard
Speaker 2: of these five titles before?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: But what do we call everyone in the church? I
Speaker 2: mean leaders, leaders, pastors. Generally we use the term pastor.
Speaker 2: You know, on the New Testament, this word is hardly
Speaker 2: ever used. Yeah, just once, and if you include shepherd,
Speaker 2: you could include a few more times because the pastor
Speaker 2: is a shepherd. But yeah, one time, which means, why
Speaker 2: do we call everyone a pastor? Are you saying eighty
Speaker 2: five percent of the church or pastors? I'm asking you
Speaker 2: yes or no?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Because look at the new look at the New Testament.
Speaker 2: What is the most one of the most common terms
Speaker 2: is apostle. That's interesting. We don't call anyone apostle hardly
Speaker 2: in ever on your business card? Do you have apostle? Okay,
Speaker 2: probably not, And there's a reason for it, right. It's
Speaker 2: the key people from being self declared apostles or prophets.
Speaker 2: You can't be self declared something. God has to call
Speaker 2: you out. Okay, I'll preach it to myself if I
Speaker 2: need to. Okay, I'll turn this way. I'll just keep going,
Speaker 2: just you and me.
Speaker 1: Okay. So, but so these are very interesting, they're needed,
Speaker 1: we need them, so they deserve honor.
Speaker 2: Why because Jesus thought it was a good idea for
Speaker 2: us to have them. So probably we need to lean
Speaker 2: into it because we need to be equipped for the
Speaker 2: works of ministry.
Speaker 1: Who are the ministers us? Ever?
Speaker 2: Say, I'm a minister? Wait, but I'm not a pastor?
Speaker 2: Can I minister?
Speaker 1: Yes? Where are you called? Are you called the lows?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, then it's time for you to start discipling
Speaker 2: the nations at lows? And how are you going to
Speaker 2: do it? How are you going to transform culture? How
Speaker 2: is this whole thing going to get transformed? It's when
Speaker 2: all of us start doing the stuff. What did Jesus do?
Speaker 2: Healed the sick, cast it out demons, made disciples, he taught,
Speaker 2: he preached, he loved on people.
Speaker 1: He served. That's what he did.
Speaker 2: That was his whole ministry, and he turned the world
Speaker 2: upside down in three years of ministry. Imagine if you
Speaker 2: were Jesus at your workplace, I mean, if you actually
Speaker 2: viewed yourself and I actually viewed myself as Jesus on
Speaker 2: this world. The Bible says, In this world, we are like, oh, bro,
Speaker 2: where are our Bible readers at? Okay, okay, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: getting fired up now I'm coming out here. Sorry, cameraman,
Speaker 2: team Okay. So in this world we are like who
Speaker 2: oh that was quiet. I heard a few right here,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jen. In this world we are like Jesus.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: In this world, we are like Jesus. Wait say that again.
Speaker 2: In this world we are like, wait, what does that mean?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? You are exactly like Jesus manifested
Speaker 2: on the earth. When he comes and lives in you
Speaker 2: and you abide in him, become exactly what you behold.
Speaker 2: And the reason maybe why we're not becoming what we
Speaker 2: behold is because we're actually not beholding him. We're beholding
Speaker 2: a version of Western Christianity that we've inherited, but maybe
Speaker 2: it's not a full image in picture of Christ. And
Speaker 2: I'm preaching on myself because there are so many areas
Speaker 2: of my life where I am lay z Everyone say lazy,
Speaker 2: Zach stopping lazy.
Speaker 1: Say that I received that word. That's good, that's a rebuke,
Speaker 1: that's healthy. Out that helps. But it's important for us to.
Speaker 2: Know we need to be equipped because these are not
Speaker 2: the ministers the.
Speaker 1: New Testament reality. We don't believe it. Oh, I can't
Speaker 1: believe it. This room doesn't believe it.
Speaker 2: Right now, literally, these people are not the ministers, but
Speaker 2: we have raised them up like they are.
Speaker 1: You are the ministers. The world is.
Speaker 2: Transformed through Their job is to get you to believe it.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to do right now. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get you to believe that you're a big deal
Speaker 2: in this spirit, that when you speak, things change, your
Speaker 2: atmosphere shift around you because you believe in God.
Speaker 1: You're not a victim. You're a victor. Just difficult things
Speaker 1: happen to you.
Speaker 2: Yes, but you overcome by the blood of the Lamb
Speaker 2: and the word of his testimony. Okay, so those are okay,
Speaker 2: ever and state that's the office gifts. Okay, that's you
Speaker 2: have to calm down, Zach, all.
Speaker 1: Right, all right.
Speaker 2: Next up, we have the motivational gifts we talked about.
Speaker 2: These are the ones like serving. So these are typically
Speaker 2: seeing as ones how you serve or you're motivated to
Speaker 2: serve other people in so you have a few different ones. Prophecies, serving, teaching, encouragement, giving, leading, mercy.
Speaker 2: You've also maybe heard like administration or gift of helps,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So those are all ways that
Speaker 2: people could be motivated or they look at motivation.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna talk about that today. Everyone say boo.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay, come back tomorrow, maybe I'll be here
Speaker 2: we can talk about it. Manifestational these are, like we said,
Speaker 2: these are things where Holy Spirit comes in a room
Speaker 2: and he changes everything. So, for example, a word I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start in the second one word of knowledge. A
Speaker 2: word of knowledge is a supernatural drop of knowledge. It's
Speaker 2: not like learned knowledge. It's not book knowledge. It's not
Speaker 2: something that you learned from your parents, it's not something
Speaker 2: you learn from your college professor. It's something that the
Speaker 2: Holy Spirit dropped in your spirit that you would have
Speaker 2: never known.
Speaker 1: And who's it? Typically for somebody else?
Speaker 2: Okay, So a word of knowledge could be like, for example,
Speaker 2: like today, so somebody passor Geary had a word of
Speaker 2: knowledge that somebody needed healing in a certain area.
Speaker 1: So he had a supernatural.
Speaker 2: Basically dropping his spirit of knowledge that somebody in the
Speaker 2: body needed healing in a particular area.
Speaker 1: Okay, does that make sense? Are we doing good? So
Speaker 1: far Okay, A word of wisdom is a step further.
Speaker 2: Word of wisdom would be like if you have a
Speaker 2: word of knowledge, and maybe it's I use a business
Speaker 2: example in first service, I'll use it here and be
Speaker 2: like if you had a business and it was failing
Speaker 2: and you're like, God, I don't know why what is happening?
Speaker 1: And you start praying about it, and then somebody.
Speaker 2: Gives you a word that says, hey, I just see
Speaker 2: that there was some dark, demonic stuff that happened in
Speaker 2: this business before you got here, and actually I feel
Speaker 2: like some stuff needs to be cast out, and you
Speaker 2: actually need to get rid of some of these things
Speaker 2: that are still in your warehouse.
Speaker 1: That's a word of knowledge.
Speaker 2: Something is wrong in your business, right, And and then
Speaker 2: the word of knowledge goes a step further and gives
Speaker 2: you direction of what to do taking this step further.
Speaker 2: So that's a word of knowledge, word of wisdom. You
Speaker 2: have a gift of faith. Gift of faith is someone
Speaker 2: who believes something that is unrational for a normal Christian
Speaker 2: to believe, even those who are faith filled. Pastor Dennis, Okay,
Speaker 2: everyone look at Dennis, say that is you, bro I've
Speaker 2: worked with him enough in youth group and enough on
Speaker 2: mission trips to see you're crazy, man, you're crazy.
Speaker 1: But you know what the gift of faith does.
Speaker 2: It excites other people to faith, that's their gift, okay,
Speaker 2: and in locks and makes way for other things that
Speaker 2: start happening.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Gifts of healings in the Greek it's a double plural,
Speaker 2: everyone say double plural gifts of healings, which means you
Speaker 2: have multiple types of gifts and multiple ways that people
Speaker 2: are healed. So you may look at somebody who operates
Speaker 2: in gifts of healing and they pray for somebody, maybe
Speaker 2: like a Benny Hinn or something, and he's like waving
Speaker 2: staff and Holy Spirit's fall and you're like, bro, that
Speaker 2: doesn't happen when I pray. Well, maybe because your gift
Speaker 2: of healing actually operates in a different way. And we've
Speaker 2: talked about how in the Body of Christ, each of
Speaker 2: it's been set. Actually, let's go to that verse. Let's
Speaker 2: go to one Corinthians twelfth. We'll read through this now
Speaker 2: to each one, the manifestation of the Spirit is given
Speaker 2: for the common what good? Remember this is the manifestational
Speaker 2: gifts to one there is given through the spirit a
Speaker 2: message or that word is logos in the Greek, which
Speaker 2: literally means word, a word of wisdom to another, a
Speaker 2: message of knowledge by means of the same What spirit? Oh,
Speaker 2: so we need the Holy Spirit to another faith by
Speaker 2: the same spirit to another. Gifts it should be gifts
Speaker 2: of healings. That's a translation to simplify it. Everyone would
Speaker 2: read that and be like, why is it double plural?
Speaker 2: We don't use that in English. Gifts of healings by
Speaker 2: that one spirit to another. Miraculous powers that is actually
Speaker 2: double plural. Workings of miracles, interesting, multiple ways people, multiple
Speaker 2: gifts within that multiple workings and multiple powers that are.
Speaker 1: Released to another. Is prophecy to another.
Speaker 2: Distinguishing between spirits or discerning discernings of spirits. That's say,
Speaker 2: double plural, multiple way to discern what's happening.
Speaker 1: And there's multiple types of spirits. Does that make sense? Okay?
Speaker 2: And another speaking in different kinds of tongues and to
Speaker 2: still another the interpretation of tongues. Okay, So we have those,
Speaker 2: but they're given for the common good, which means they're
Speaker 2: not just for you. You are not your own, your
Speaker 2: body at a price. So each member belongs to all
Speaker 2: the others. So I wonder why the world hasn't been
Speaker 2: transformed yet. You ever have a thought. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you some crazy Can you forgive me in advance? Okay,
Speaker 2: pre forgiveness? Everyone say I pre forgiven. Some of you
Speaker 2: aren't doing it, and I can tell on your face.
Speaker 1: Forgive them. God, they'd know not what they do. What if.
Speaker 2: Every generation who's thought Jesus is coming back in their generation?
Speaker 1: How many thought that?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm saying it could happen, but every generation thought
Speaker 2: that more or less?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Do they hear wrong? Did they think wrong? Maybe it's
Speaker 2: because Jesus coming back has something to do with us.
Speaker 2: Oh you don't believe it. I'll say it again. Maybe
Speaker 2: Jesus coming back actually has something to do with us.
Speaker 2: We look at the doom and gloom and times.
Speaker 1: But if you read the.
Speaker 2: End of the story, where does Heaven go? Heaven comes here,
Speaker 2: Heaven comes to earth. Jesus tells us to pray your
Speaker 2: kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it
Speaker 2: is in heaven. It would be really stupid for Jesus
Speaker 2: to teach that if he was just gonna blow this
Speaker 2: whole thing up anyway, really dumb, Some mean si don't
Speaker 2: believe it.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Because if we have the belief system that everything's just
Speaker 2: gonna end now or end whenever God decides, right, because
Speaker 2: he decides when. But if we take no ownership over
Speaker 2: our part, then Jesus literally died for nothing.
Speaker 1: You understand, it would have been more powerful for.
Speaker 2: Jesus just to stay on the earth than for us to.
Speaker 1: Be an unbelief and do nothing.
Speaker 2: But we've been so deceived by end Time's theology that
Speaker 2: disempowers our productivity on the earth. But let's just think
Speaker 2: about it in simplicity. Why why would Jesus leave and
Speaker 2: then replicate himself in every believer and then tell us
Speaker 2: to make the earth like heaven. It's because he's restoring
Speaker 2: Eden through us. Oh man, some of us are still
Speaker 2: not getting it. He is restorting Eden through us through
Speaker 2: our partnership.
Speaker 1: We are the sons and daughters. We are the redeemed.
Speaker 1: Jesus is called the last Adam.
Speaker 2: Why because we don't need another one? What was Adam
Speaker 2: the king of the garden the world? He inherited the world,
Speaker 2: and so do we through Jesus. So there's a reason
Speaker 2: why we're giving this stuff. It's not just to save
Speaker 2: everyone that we can, which is true, but I'll tell
Speaker 2: you me, growing up, everything was about just saving people
Speaker 2: and almost zero about discipling nations.
Speaker 1: That was my inheritance.
Speaker 2: And I sat there, like, I don't really care about
Speaker 2: saving people? Can I be honest in my natural bent?
Speaker 2: I'm not bent like an evangelist. You talk to an evangelist,
Speaker 2: it's like all they think about, dude. Everyone said, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of annoying. Okay, Okay, I literally talked to
Speaker 2: an evangelist and I'm like, you kind of get tired.
Speaker 2: You're like, bro, you're so visionary and you're like moving
Speaker 2: around so much. You just can you just slow down
Speaker 2: for like a second, Like, let's just who are discipling?
Speaker 2: He's like, just save everybody? Right, I'm talking about so
Speaker 2: and maybe right now, and they probably know who I'm
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: But that's okay.
Speaker 2: But but that's what we think. We're all made different,
Speaker 2: and we're all made in the image of Christ, and
Speaker 2: we all matter, and we're all put in the body
Speaker 2: for a reason because we're restoring the earth.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, we need to move on. Are you guys ready?
Speaker 1: Praise God? Some of you?
Speaker 2: You can't say praise God like that. Some of you
Speaker 2: said it like praise God. We're almost done with this service.
Speaker 2: I get this guy, Pastor Dwayne, come back, Please don't
Speaker 2: go on vacation again, your youth pastors preaching?
Speaker 1: Where did I put my pen? There? Is? Okay? So
Speaker 1: there's actually a.
Speaker 2: Better way to look at the gifts. I feel like,
Speaker 2: maybe not better. Another advantageous way to look at the
Speaker 2: gifts is actually the word for gift. Because remember the
Speaker 2: new testimony we have was written in Greek, not English,
Speaker 2: so it's translated to English, and so we even talked
Speaker 2: about we read one Corinthians twelve. There are some words
Speaker 2: in there that weren't fully accurate, but they were translated
Speaker 2: because of simplicity of messaging. Right, if you're gonna give
Speaker 2: a full translation to mean something, sometimes you have to
Speaker 2: write something three four, five times longer than what was
Speaker 2: actually given. And then it starts to water down the
Speaker 2: clarity of the message, right, because you're getting the specificity
Speaker 2: and you're losing the watering down. So we got to
Speaker 2: look sometimes into the Greek to find out what's the true?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else.
Speaker 2: In the Greek that maybe we can glean from what
Speaker 2: was happening back then, and there actually are some things.
Speaker 2: So there are actually words for gift in the New
Speaker 2: Testament in the Grief Greek that I want to go through.
Speaker 2: First one is there's five I'm going to go through.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And actually before I do that, I want to give
Speaker 2: an example. So in English we're very generalized. So who's
Speaker 2: going to be a victim? Raise your hand? Who's a victim? Sofia?
Speaker 1: You just okay, Sophia just got lane.
Speaker 2: So that's great. She's not a victim, she's a victor.
Speaker 2: She's she picked on Lane Lane. Would you prefer that
Speaker 2: your sister do it?
Speaker 1: Okay? So seven say yy?
Speaker 2: Sophia self volunteered. Okay, So, Sofia, what like tell me
Speaker 2: something like you love food?
Speaker 1: You love food? Okay, so like what's your favorite food? Pasta? Pasta?
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect? Okay, I have another question. Do you do
Speaker 2: you love your brother?
Speaker 1: Yeah? God, we just pray for Sophia right now.
Speaker 2: There's a little bigger it's a little begrudging, but it's okay,
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: It happens. They're siblings. How many of a sibling they love? Okay?
Speaker 2: That's good, Okay, all right, So you love lane, but
Speaker 2: you also love pizza.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to eat lane? Pasa? You're right?
Speaker 1: Not pastor not?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: What did I say? Pizza? Where are we at? What's
Speaker 1: going on? Pastor?
Speaker 2: Dwayne?
Speaker 1: Come back? Okay?
Speaker 2: So you love Pasa and you love your brother, but
Speaker 2: you don't want to eat your brother? How did we
Speaker 2: understand what kind of love? She was talking about? Context,
Speaker 2: because in the English we just use the same word
Speaker 2: for everything, and it may be very confusing if you're
Speaker 2: from anyone confused sometimes with the English language, if it's
Speaker 2: your second language, and you're like, what in the world
Speaker 2: he's the same word for that?
Speaker 1: Well, guess what? The same thing happens for gift.
Speaker 2: We use gift for present, right, we say like, give
Speaker 2: it a present, But we also say like that person's
Speaker 2: gifted encoding, like they're good at computer science.
Speaker 1: So we use both. But it depends on the context.
Speaker 2: Well, in the Greek there's, like I said, there's five
Speaker 2: different words for gift, so it's important for us to
Speaker 2: know which one do we have and what are we
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 1: We do?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so the first one is called anathema. Everyone
Speaker 2: say anathema. Okay, This is used one time and it's
Speaker 2: in Luke twenty one and it's used to describe it
Speaker 2: consecrated gifts in the temple. Are we talking about that here? No,
Speaker 2: we're not talking about that. Okay, So that's forget it?
Speaker 2: Everyone say, I forgot it? Did you forget it already?
Speaker 2: Praise God? You're tuned into holy spirit? He already pre
Speaker 2: deleted that one, all right? Ready, next one is corbin
Speaker 2: another specific use for word for another specific word for gift.
Speaker 2: It's used in a temple treasury context. So did you
Speaker 2: forget that one already? What was that word? Okay?
Speaker 1: You didn't?
Speaker 2: I tested you forget it now though. Okay, here's the
Speaker 2: next one. Numtikos. Everyone say numatikos. If you know anything
Speaker 2: about the Greek, what does numa stand for? Spirit win breath?
Speaker 2: And so it actually in the Greek it's translated spiritual gift.
Speaker 2: But that's not what it means. It means spirituals, like
Speaker 2: spiritual things. But why do they translate it spiritual gift
Speaker 2: in the New Testament?
Speaker 1: Why? Because of clarity?
Speaker 2: They want something easily understood based within context. But we're
Speaker 2: not talking about new matikos in these We're actually gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about these other two. One is and I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna write them right here, so you're just gonna
Speaker 2: have to suffer. Everyone say praise God. First one is
Speaker 2: ditto me. Everyone say diddom. It's a pokemon.
Speaker 1: Uh. So this is diddo me. I'm sorry if I
Speaker 1: offended some people? Uh did a me?
Speaker 2: And then this next one is a charisma and even
Speaker 2: more narrow down, keis, does anyone know what charras means?
Speaker 1: Grace?
Speaker 2: So we have diddom, which all these other words in
Speaker 2: the Greek boil down to this base word. It's actually
Speaker 2: a verb, it's not actually the noun. So you're like,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean gift. It means to gift. Okay, just
Speaker 2: slow down, Okay, all the words come from this. So
Speaker 2: diddo me means gift or present. Okay, So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put this as a present in a more traditional context. Okay,
Speaker 2: like if I was going to give a gift to you,
Speaker 2: like in the traditional context, like a present.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what it means. So everyone heard.
Speaker 2: Of the gift of righteousness that we got through Jesus.
Speaker 2: That's a Dinimi gift, gift of the Holy Spirit. Didimi gift? Interesting?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: Okay, so charisma is different. It's a grace gift. Grace gift. Now,
Speaker 2: grace gifts are important because a grace gift you can't earn,
Speaker 2: you don't deserve it. Does that make sense? Because it's grace,
Speaker 2: God's grace towards you. And we're gonna find something. There's
Speaker 2: something amazing and something very frustrating about these type of gifts.
Speaker 2: But first I want to take a poll. How many
Speaker 2: think the office gifts are the didome or the charisma?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So if you think the office gifts profit a vangels, apostile,
Speaker 2: pastor teacher, If you think those are ditome, can I
Speaker 2: have you raised your hand?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: If you think they're the charisma gifts, raise your hand.
Speaker 2: If you didn't raise your hand, raise your hand. Okay,
Speaker 2: So it's actually drummer please, okay, let's try it again.
Speaker 2: Proved all right, drumroll please? That was still not good. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine. This is the Didoman gifts, which is a present.
Speaker 1: It's a present to.
Speaker 2: The body of Christ, literally, like a gift He's giving
Speaker 2: directly to us. What about the motivational How many things charisma?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: How many things didomia or didoman nobody. Some of you
Speaker 2: aren't even sure. Now you're like, well, the first one
Speaker 2: was dinner me, so for sure, that's not it. How
Speaker 2: many didn't raise your hand? How many still didn't raise
Speaker 2: their hand the first time? Okay, thank you all right?
Speaker 2: So the motivational gifts are actually charisma. They're charisma gifts,
Speaker 2: which means grace gifts. Very interesting. So these these gifts,
Speaker 2: you could do nothing to earn them. They were given freely.
Speaker 2: They say everything about God's character and nothing about yours.
Speaker 2: I'll say that again. They have everything to do with
Speaker 2: God's character, nothing to do with yours. But we like
Speaker 2: to think we earn them because we're cool. We get
Speaker 2: into Christianity and we're saved by grace through faith, and
Speaker 2: then as soon as we're saved, we start works to
Speaker 2: try to prove ourself worthy. And that's why we still
Speaker 2: suffer internally because we don't understand there's literally nothing you
Speaker 2: could do to earn it.
Speaker 1: We literally deserve death.
Speaker 2: We got mercy and then he pours out all these
Speaker 2: free gifts on us. But we think now we got
Speaker 2: to earn it now, No, it's opposite. We actually work
Speaker 2: from grace. We don't work for grace.
Speaker 1: Were doing?
Speaker 2: Okay, give me a thumbs up. If you're doing okay,
Speaker 2: tell your partner whispering there and please help me. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: This guy's crazy.
Speaker 2: This guy's crazy. You just tell your neighbor. I saw
Speaker 2: you guys whispering.
Speaker 1: Don't be doing that. And last up is manifestational. Can
Speaker 1: we have fun?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry in advance. Okay, I'm just am manifestational
Speaker 2: one Corinthians twelve. What do you think did ami or charisma?
Speaker 2: Didimi or chrisma Chrisma? You guys think, yeah, you're right. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: you guys are too smart. Well, what does this mean?
Speaker 2: These are given by the grace of God. The power
Speaker 2: of His spirit flows through us. Here's the problem. It's
Speaker 2: by grace. So we can look at all these big
Speaker 2: time leaders in the church and we start to get disillusioned,
Speaker 2: Like God, why are all these leaders failing? They had
Speaker 2: massive gifts, massive they could move a room with their gift.
Speaker 1: The world would literally open up before them because of
Speaker 1: their gift. And we get frustrated and we're like God,
Speaker 1: what why did you give them that gift? You knew
Speaker 1: they were gonna mess it up.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, same reason he gives you the gifts because
Speaker 2: he knew you're gonna mess it up. How many after
Speaker 2: the way he saved ever messed it up? Wow, some
Speaker 2: of you are like super perfect? Okay, on anyone wanted
Speaker 2: to take it like, you should take it up because
Speaker 2: I'm not. I've messed up probably a thousand times after
Speaker 2: being a Christian.
Speaker 1: There's no grace in the room for me.
Speaker 2: There. I'm just saying, you gotta have more grace. But
Speaker 2: we look at this and I'm like, why have these
Speaker 2: people failed? It's because it has nothing to do with
Speaker 2: their character. God gave them a sword, and the fruit
Speaker 2: of the spirit may not be built up yet, but
Speaker 2: he gave him a sword.
Speaker 1: Why Because He's so.
Speaker 2: Waiting for the sons and daughters of God to be revealed.
Speaker 2: Who's gonna walk in power of God? He will literally
Speaker 2: use anyone. And we're too bored sitting at home watching
Speaker 2: another show, not realizing the high calling that we have
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with watching a show, But we're so distracted
Speaker 2: in the West away from our true purpose in calling
Speaker 2: that we don't understand that God is waiting.
Speaker 1: For these to be revealed through us.
Speaker 2: You understand the Corinthian church that Paul's writing to here
Speaker 2: was messed up. People were in incests, people were in
Speaker 2: lawsuits in the church against each other. This isn't like
Speaker 2: a megachurch, guys, and they were messed up. But what
Speaker 2: was so profound about them that they actually believed God
Speaker 2: wanted to use them? So are we willing to look
Speaker 2: at each other and look at ourselves in the mirror
Speaker 2: and be okay with God?
Speaker 1: I can't earn this, I don't deserve it. You've given
Speaker 1: me a giant sword.
Speaker 2: Teach me how to teach me how to wield this well?
Speaker 2: And obviously we don't want people to fall. We can
Speaker 2: be disappointed about that. But let's look at a Romans
Speaker 2: eleven twenty nine. For God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.
Speaker 2: God's gifts that word forgift there is charisma. God's grace,
Speaker 2: gift and his call are irrevocable. What does that mean?
Speaker 2: It's irrevocable. It's for keeps. You can't be taken back.
Speaker 2: God's gifts and his call are irrevocable, meaning He's not
Speaker 2: gonna take it back from you because he so believes
Speaker 2: in you.
Speaker 1: Why I've messed it up.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I mean who hasn't in this room? Next
Speaker 2: one eleven twenty nine. This is King James. For the
Speaker 2: gifts and calling of God are without repentance. God is
Speaker 2: not sad about giving the gifts.
Speaker 1: Did disappointed when people misuse gifts, but.
Speaker 2: He's not sad about giving it because he still believes
Speaker 2: in people. Paul was a murderer and then in the
Speaker 2: next moment he wasn't. Could that happen in the West now,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. He became pastor of churches.
Speaker 2: I think we'd have to put him through a thirty
Speaker 2: year process and then maybe he can serve on the
Speaker 2: parking lot team. I'm not saying people have to walk
Speaker 2: through a process. I'm just saying we have to understand
Speaker 2: the hyster historical reality of how mess up these people
Speaker 2: are and how mess up we are, and the grace
Speaker 2: of God that's immense for everybody.
Speaker 1: Okay, but here's the thing.
Speaker 2: This will get you into a room, This will wild
Speaker 2: the crowds, This is flashy and showy, but the thing
Speaker 2: that's gonna sustain you in the room is gonna be
Speaker 2: your integrity, your character, your fruit of the spirit. So
Speaker 2: the reason these leaders are falling is because they developed
Speaker 2: and cultivated the gift because it's easy, it doesn't depend
Speaker 2: on them. But the fruits do depend on them, meaning
Speaker 2: you have to spend time with the fruit bearer to
Speaker 2: become what you behold, and that takes time and a process, and.
Speaker 1: It's easy to skip one and do the other.
Speaker 2: So I want us to be a people who not
Speaker 2: only stewart and value the character in a church environment
Speaker 2: where we go to conferences where that we just know
Speaker 2: the pastor and the leader whoever's speaking is pure and righteous,
Speaker 2: and not just because they're flashy and showy. Because we're
Speaker 2: just as responsible for raising up these leaders.
Speaker 1: Oh that hurt.
Speaker 2: We're just as responsible for raising up these leaders because
Speaker 2: all we want is a show. Give us the glory.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to change. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be different. Ouch. Well that just took a turn. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: This is supposed to be lighthearted. Oh everyone say God,
Speaker 2: thank you. But God just wants someone to believe that
Speaker 2: he can use them, and he'll use literally anyone. Say
Speaker 2: he'll use me, Say he'll use me. Do you believe
Speaker 2: it's irrevocable? Some of us don't. We're gonna end here.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Let's go to We're not gonna read. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: summarize it. For Samuel twenty eight. If you remember this story,
Speaker 2: Saul is no longer the Lord had departed from Saul.
Speaker 2: He's already raised up David as the next leader anointed one. Right,
Speaker 2: but Saul's still king. Okay, Saul is still king. And
Speaker 2: so at the end of Saul's life, King Saul is
Speaker 2: no longer being answered by the Lord by prophets, by dreams,
Speaker 2: or by the urim, which is the high priest way
Speaker 2: of determining a yes or no, basically from God.
Speaker 1: So he literally.
Speaker 2: God was not speaking to him at all in a
Speaker 2: way that.
Speaker 1: He could receive. So what did King Saul do? Didn't
Speaker 1: you remember that story?
Speaker 2: He visits a witch, the Witch of Endor. So he
Speaker 2: visits a witch, which is funny because he was the
Speaker 2: one responsible for getting rid of all the spiritists and
Speaker 2: mediums and which is from the realm. So he sent
Speaker 2: them away, and then he has to He's like, whoa,
Speaker 2: He's thinking in his head, well, I don't hear from
Speaker 2: God at all, so I'm gonna manipulum late my way to.
Speaker 1: Get a word.
Speaker 2: I'm going to access the gifts to another way.
Speaker 1: That's why will never get you there. So Saul.
Speaker 2: Goes to this witch and I don't know what kind
Speaker 2: of crazy evil was going on, but she was able
Speaker 2: to call someone up from the dead the Place of
Speaker 2: the Dead, which, by the way, I don't think is
Speaker 2: possible anymore because someone now holds the keys.
Speaker 1: His name's Jesus. She brings up someone from the dead,
Speaker 1: and who does he ask to be brought up? Samuel?
Speaker 2: Saul, what are you thinking, dude, The last time you
Speaker 2: talked to Samuel, he gave you a word that your
Speaker 2: kingdom was going to be given to someone else, probably
Speaker 2: not the first prophet. I'd go see anyone else, Okay.
Speaker 2: Kind of crazy. So she brings up sid crazy story.
Speaker 2: She brings up Samuel the Place of the dead. Why
Speaker 2: because at that time they still had access the dermonic
Speaker 2: realms selled access to that area through witchcraft. So brings
Speaker 2: him up and he's basically like, you know one of
Speaker 2: these like.
Speaker 1: Why are you disturbing me?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: You know I've been dead. He's been dead. Are we
Speaker 1: doing Okay?
Speaker 2: Let's stand I need to I need you to help
Speaker 2: me here. He's been dead, and he comes up and
Speaker 2: the lady who's performing this whole thing finds out it's Samuel, Samuel,
Speaker 2: the prophet Samuel. She starts freaking out because he's like, oh, dang,
Speaker 2: your soul, I'm dead.
Speaker 1: She thinks I'm dead. This is a trap. And Sol's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. Fine.
Speaker 2: So he talks to Samuel and Samuel just get just
Speaker 2: blasts him like, bro, tomorrow you're gonna die and your
Speaker 2: sons a terrible word. He didn't really think that through.
Speaker 2: But what's the crazy part about that story?
Speaker 1: Do you see it?
Speaker 2: Samuel still had the gift of prophecy he was dead,
Speaker 2: that gift was irrevocable. Let me tell you another story.
Speaker 2: Let me look at the heading. I think the second Kings. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Second King's thirteen. This next one we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about is about Elisha, the double portioned son of Elijah,
Speaker 2: not naturally but spiritually. So the crazy thing about Elijah
Speaker 2: was what happened in his life. Signs wondrous of miracles,
Speaker 2: gifts of healing, workings of miracles.
Speaker 1: This dude was just killing it.
Speaker 2: But he died from a sickness. That's wild. I mean
Speaker 2: there's a lot to it. But here's a perspective. Maybe
Speaker 2: you could look at the gifts of the spirit are
Speaker 2: mainly for others, also for you, but mainly for others.
Speaker 2: So maybe the reason we don't see these things a
Speaker 2: whole lot is because we think they're for us. We
Speaker 2: come to church because we think it's about us.
Speaker 1: I'll say that again.
Speaker 2: We come to church because we think it's about us.
Speaker 2: I just need another word, I just need someone to
Speaker 2: love me. And look, it's about that. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: it's not. But our focus cannot only be on us
Speaker 2: because we are the body of Christ, which means we
Speaker 2: need each other so bad.
Speaker 1: And this church has people who need to be healed.
Speaker 2: And maybe it's your gift that's gonna unlock it for
Speaker 2: that person.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's you.
Speaker 2: Maybe that prophetic word that you give that one person
Speaker 2: on that random day changes their entire life. And you're like,
Speaker 2: but I'm not a capital pee prophet. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: You're part of the body. We need you, you're needed.
Speaker 2: You're on the first team. You're called up to the
Speaker 2: eight squad. No more sitting on the bench, no more
Speaker 2: letting these people lead ministry. What if a people group
Speaker 2: a church decided no, I'm the ministry of God, and
Speaker 2: we stopped relying on the anointing of someone on the stage,
Speaker 2: and we started to carry what we've already been given.
Speaker 1: So in this story, Elisha died and was buried.
Speaker 2: Now, Moabite raiders used to enter the country every spring.
Speaker 2: Dif first, verse twenty one.
Speaker 1: Here's he going? If you forgive anyone's.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, next next one for a second, King's thirteen,
Speaker 2: verse twenty one.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, there we go. Once while some iss your lights.
Speaker 2: Were burying a man. Who is burying them? We're burying
Speaker 2: a man. Suddenly they saw a band of raiders, so
Speaker 2: they threw the man's body into a lycious tomb. What
Speaker 2: elycis dead? Like, he's dead dead, He's in a tomb.
Speaker 2: And these guys are freaking out. They're like all the
Speaker 2: raiders are coming, and I just can imagine them being like, ugh,
Speaker 2: but we gotta bury him, you know, we still gott
Speaker 2: to bury him, Like we can just leave him here.
Speaker 2: And so they're like, they still did their job. So
Speaker 2: praise God, they did their job. Everyone give it up
Speaker 2: for those two.
Speaker 1: We'll see you in.
Speaker 2: Heaven, hopefully.
Speaker 1: That would be awesome, well done. If we see you.
Speaker 2: They're walking around like everyone in Heaven's walk around with
Speaker 2: these accomplishments, you know, things he did. And this dude's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I threw that guy into Elisias too.
Speaker 1: And so when the body touched elycious bones, the man
Speaker 1: came to life and stood up on his feet.
Speaker 2: Literally they tossed him and he hit the bone. Could
Speaker 2: you imagine waking up and you're next door dead dude,
Speaker 2: You're like, what just happened? And then worse, a band
Speaker 2: of raiders comes to your tomb, you walk out, They're
Speaker 2: like last spring they ever came.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that. But here's the point.
Speaker 2: The gift followed him to death. Even death cannot stop
Speaker 2: your gift. Your mess ups, your mistakes cannot erase your gift.
Speaker 2: You may have to walk through a little bit of
Speaker 2: a process to maybe get to restore, to pass or
Speaker 2: something like that. But I'll tell you what God so
Speaker 2: believes in you. He gave it to you for keeps.
Speaker 2: He gave it to you for keeps because he believes
Speaker 2: that much in you. So here's the part, here's the
Speaker 2: caveat the big catch. Who is the giver? And operator
Speaker 2: of these gifts. Holy Spirit. We need Holy Spirit. If
Speaker 2: you've never been baptized in the Holy Spirit, this is
Speaker 2: not baptized in water. By the way, baptized in water
Speaker 2: is repentance. You were dead in your sins. We killed
Speaker 2: you in the tub. You were dead. Some of you
Speaker 2: stayed down a long time because you really needed to die,
Speaker 2: and then we brought you back up and you had
Speaker 2: new life in Christ's that's beginner. That's one oh one. Okay.
Speaker 2: Another thing you need is the baptist in the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 2: You need to be baptizo. You need to be immersed
Speaker 2: in the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1: Because I'll tell.
Speaker 2: You what, a world's not transformed just because we're awesome.
Speaker 1: Or we're naturally charismatic.
Speaker 2: We need the charisma of the Holy Ghosts to come
Speaker 2: and transform our world.
Speaker 1: And so here's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: I'm gonnavite Destiny team up and we're gonna go after it.
Speaker 2: If you have never been baptized in the Holy Spirit,
Speaker 2: I want to invite you forward. Because the baptism being
Speaker 2: immersed in the Holy Spirit, like you are immersed in
Speaker 2: the waters of baptism, something happens. If it was important
Speaker 2: enough for Jesus not to begin his earthly ministry until
Speaker 2: he was baptized in the Holy Spirit, and the Holy
Speaker 2: Spirit descended on him like a dove. If it was
Speaker 2: good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me.
Speaker 1: So we need it. I believe this is in my.
Speaker 2: Humble opinion, this is the reason why the church has
Speaker 2: been so powerless because we either think we've been baptized
Speaker 2: already because we have a misunderstanding.
Speaker 1: Of the two baptisms, or we just don't.
Speaker 2: We just don't believe in the miracles today, so we
Speaker 2: don't welcome Holy Spirit to come and move. And so
Speaker 2: I want to give Holy Spirit the chance to move.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna pray for the baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Okay, Joe, Joe Burnham, where are you? Joe?
Speaker 1: Can I have you? I'm gonna come to you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have him share really quick, thirty seconds or
Speaker 2: less about what it felt like, what it was like
Speaker 2: getting baptized in the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, pute me on the spot.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: So it was like it was amazing. So I was
Speaker 3: like it was like I was lost in time. I
Speaker 3: felt nothing but heat and just power just working through me.
Speaker 3: And when I came out of it, it was it
Speaker 3: was I don't know, it's hard to explain. It was
Speaker 3: like a different me and just like I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know how it worked.
Speaker 1: It was it was like God, Yeah, it was God.
Speaker 1: God came. He was immersing.
Speaker 2: God, give it up, for give it up for Joe.
Speaker 2: God immersed him, He immersed him. Do you want to
Speaker 2: be immersed I want to be immersed in you, God, Jesus.
Speaker 2: We want to be immersed in you. So come up
Speaker 2: and get prayer. I'm just gonna pray us out.
Speaker 1: God, I thank you.
Speaker 2: Would you transform us into an active body ones who
Speaker 2: work from grace, not for grace, And so Jesus, I
Speaker 2: just say in this room, we just command that the
Speaker 2: Holy Spirit, that you would work and you would flood
Speaker 2: and you would flow through every believer, that the joy
Speaker 2: of the Lord would be our strength, that the fire
Speaker 2: of God would come consume us. And so we release
Speaker 2: that over everyone in the room today, that we're empowered
Speaker 2: by your spirit, we're baptized by your fire, and we
Speaker 2: thank you for it right now in Jesus' name.
Speaker 1: Amen,