Speaker 1: It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray unknowing Mazy Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump? I cannot
Speaker 2: provide content that promotes a specific political party or a
Speaker 2: specific candidate.
Speaker 3: Alexa, Why should I vote for Kamala Harris?
Speaker 2: While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: the most significant maybe that she is a strong candidate
Speaker 2: with a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first
Speaker 2: female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major
Speaker 2: gender barrier, and her career in politics has been characterized
Speaker 2: by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on
Speaker 2: helping disenfranchised communities.
Speaker 3: I did is Bezos a Democrat? I didn't even know.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Nightside. I'm Gary Tangwin for Dan Ray
Speaker 3: six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty. Yeah. And I
Speaker 3: have to give Marita LaRosa, a producer who points that
Speaker 3: out to me tonight. Excuse me that when you talk
Speaker 3: to Alexa and you ask about Trump, No, nothing, not
Speaker 3: going to talk about him, but Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, blah blah bla bla b b ba bah.
Speaker 3: Even AI is on the side. AI is against Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: I think This is hilarious, absolutely hilarious. Now, obviously Amazon,
Speaker 3: which runs alection, they've got to fix that. That seems
Speaker 3: to be a little partisan to me. But Bezos has
Speaker 3: so much money he doesn't have to worry. It's not
Speaker 3: like Bezos is going to get that tax break, right.
Speaker 3: She's talking about a fifty thousand dollars tax break for
Speaker 3: startup companies, but they can yeah, they deduct fifty to
Speaker 3: fifty grand for startup companies. She also says families, middle
Speaker 3: class families can get a four thousand dollars tax break
Speaker 3: per kid. So that's what Kamala Harris is doing. But
Speaker 3: it seems like big business like Amazon is behind her.
Speaker 3: I thought that was hilarious. But it's obvious that the
Speaker 3: vice president is targeting the middle class, and as she could.
Speaker 3: You know, listen, Trump's going to be pro big business,
Speaker 3: or at least that's the perception. I just think he's
Speaker 3: pro Trump and she's going to target the middle class,
Speaker 3: which seems like a good strategy. But I'm curious what
Speaker 3: you think at six point seven, two, five, four, ten
Speaker 3: thirty is it really the economy? Is it really is
Speaker 3: that what you're going to vote on? Are you going
Speaker 3: to vote for Donald Trump because you think he's better
Speaker 3: for the economy. Are you going to vote for Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris because of the tax breaks? Are you not going
Speaker 3: to vote for Kamala Harris because the Biden administration did
Speaker 3: not have the run of economic prosperity that the Trump
Speaker 3: administration did. Because I don't think that's it. In the past,
Speaker 3: people would say it's the economy stupid, right with George
Speaker 3: Bush the senior if you will, it's the economy stupid. Yes,
Speaker 3: at that point in time, I thought that is true.
Speaker 3: I think people point to the economy now and I
Speaker 3: don't think that's what's gonna decide this race. I think
Speaker 3: it comes down to who people like. Whether you like
Speaker 3: Donald Trump or whether you like Kamala Harris or who
Speaker 3: you don't like. I don't like Trump. I'm paraphrasing here.
Speaker 3: You know, you may say I don't like Trump and
Speaker 3: I don't like Harris. Less it's the less of two evils.
Speaker 3: Are you going to vote on the economy at six, one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty? Are you really and be honest? Now, maybe
Speaker 3: you may say, yeah, well, Gary, listen, I got a
Speaker 3: couple of kids. She's gonna give me a four thousand
Speaker 3: dollars tax break on each kid super or I want
Speaker 3: to start a small business and I can use a
Speaker 3: fifty thousand. Okay, fine, But for the rest of us,
Speaker 3: are we going to put a guy in office that
Speaker 3: in January sixth? You know, these people wanted to overflow
Speaker 3: the government, and people died over throw the government, I
Speaker 3: should say. And who didn't handle COVID great? And I
Speaker 3: don't know who would have handled COVID well, but I
Speaker 3: think they would have been on the same page with
Speaker 3: Fauci instead of just going crazy and going off on
Speaker 3: his own rants and tantrums on Twitter. Look, I don't
Speaker 3: know if Harris is going to be a good president.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's the great unknown. I understand her.
Speaker 3: She doesn't really have a record. You know, Trump has
Speaker 3: a record. The economy was good when Trump was president.
Speaker 3: Interest rates if they come down and probably going to
Speaker 3: come down before the election, well, and if Harris is
Speaker 3: re elected, that means she may have a good economy.
Speaker 3: Is it really about the money with this election? Is
Speaker 3: it really? Because I don't think it is. It's good
Speaker 3: at day in New Hampshire. Dan, you're up on WBC's
Speaker 3: Night set H Gary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I agree with you. I've been thinking
Speaker 4: the same thing. I don't think it is the economy
Speaker 4: stupid this time around. What the thing is? You know,
Speaker 4: people go around saying, how well politicians, you know, they
Speaker 4: all lie and everything else. But the difference with Trump,
Speaker 4: Gary is he doesn't even know what the hell it
Speaker 4: is he's lying about.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: He just sits there and makes up stuff. The greatest
Speaker 4: economy in the history of the world won the election
Speaker 4: by the biggest landslide in the history of the country.
Speaker 3: I don't how about this, how about never conceded the election?
Speaker 3: The election was stolen from him? Yeah, and just on
Speaker 3: and on and on and on. And here's a guy
Speaker 3: in al Gore, and many feel that the election was
Speaker 3: taken from him, and it was, and he conceded, and
Speaker 3: he said, okay, you know, President Bush, it's yours. He
Speaker 3: was a gentleman. He didn't start a revolt. He didn't
Speaker 3: ask people to attack the capital.
Speaker 4: You know, well, because al Gore was a patriot, it
Speaker 4: should have been president would have been a great one.
Speaker 4: But the Supreme Court did rule in favor of Bush, right,
Speaker 4: and he had to say he accepted all of us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he accepted it.
Speaker 4: He said okay, and he told all of us we
Speaker 4: had accepted as well. That's so you talk about me
Speaker 4: when the Florida I remember that Friday when the Florida
Speaker 4: Supreme Court ruled for Gore and they started counting votes again.
Speaker 4: Within hours, the US Supreme Court is in there saying no,
Speaker 4: stop counting the votes.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 4: That was as third good Marshal of only Sylvan sitting there.
Speaker 4: So the Clarence Thomas Albow would have been presidents. Well
Speaker 4: you have a much different world today.
Speaker 3: Well but you know that's that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Speaker 3: You know, you can look on both sides.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 3: In George W. Bush after nine to eleven was pretty good.
Speaker 3: So and I'm a registered Democrat, but Dan, thank you
Speaker 3: for the phone call. I appreciate it. Is it the
Speaker 3: economy when you go into the voting booth. Are you
Speaker 3: going to vote for Donald Trump because you think he's
Speaker 3: going to help your pocketbook? Are you going to vote
Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris because you think she's going to help
Speaker 3: your pocketbook? And maybe with what she is promising, that
Speaker 3: may be the case. The four thousand dollars credit for
Speaker 3: each kid, the fifty thousand tax credit. If you're starting
Speaker 3: up a new business, small business, getting the economy going.
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 3: And it is also and I'm asking this question, is
Speaker 3: that what we need right now? I think what we
Speaker 3: need in this country is a lower cost of living.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if giving a fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: credit for small businesses addresses that it's just too damn
Speaker 3: expensive to live in America. Period. It's crazy. I don't
Speaker 3: know how some people do it, especially in New England
Speaker 3: when it comes to try to now, I'm not Now
Speaker 3: she has talked about price fixing. I am not for
Speaker 3: price fixing, am not. I am not a communist. You're
Speaker 3: not going to do that. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty. Maybe they bring interest rates down, maybe that'll
Speaker 3: fix things again. But again it comes to interest rates.
Speaker 3: We know it's all about the feed. It's not about
Speaker 3: who's president. Is it the economy stupid in this presidential election?
Speaker 3: Your calls coming up next on wbz's night Side Now.
Speaker 1: Back to Dan ray Line from the Window World Nightside
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Speaker 3: Radio sixty seven two thirty of a phone number Gary
Speaker 3: Tangway for Dan Ray tonight taking some calls I just
Speaker 3: saw regarding the economy. Is it the economy? Is it
Speaker 3: this time around? That's a breaking news came out of
Speaker 3: the school shooting in Georgia. Horrific that coch Gray, the
Speaker 3: fourteen year old who's been arrested for this. They talked
Speaker 3: to him about threats prior to this. Look, if you
Speaker 3: make a threat to a school, you're out. You're out.
Speaker 3: We cannot we cannot take any more chances with this.
Speaker 3: I mean, we saw this with the last school shooting,
Speaker 3: where the parents knew that the kid had access to
Speaker 3: the gun and they I mean, it's insane. You can't
Speaker 3: take any chances. If there is a threat or be
Speaker 3: behavior from a student, they're out. I'm sorry, you just can't.
Speaker 3: We can't have this. And there's a report saying there
Speaker 3: was a warning about him prior to it happening. I
Speaker 3: don't know if he was already in school. Police were
Speaker 3: there quickly, they were able to stop the violence. But
Speaker 3: if a student makes a threat in the school, they're out, period.
Speaker 3: That's it. What's it going to take? People? Is it
Speaker 3: the economy? Stupid? Are you going to vote with your
Speaker 3: pocketbook coming up in November six, one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty. Let's go to John and Boston. John, you're
Speaker 3: on WBZ.
Speaker 7: Oh, I didn't thank Garry Jarry. Actually it was a
Speaker 7: I think you said George Bors said it was the
Speaker 7: economy stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did I mess up? Who was it?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 7: I think you know it was James Cobble in nineteen
Speaker 7: ninety two that said it's the economy student.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was against I thank you for correcting me.
Speaker 3: It was Carville was not thank you for correcting me.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's uh. And al Gore actually he wanted to
Speaker 7: continue the count and continue contesting the result. It was
Speaker 7: the Supreme Court on December twelfth, was also happens to
Speaker 7: be the feast day Alida Gueralupe that decided said it's
Speaker 7: it's the counting has got to be over, and that
Speaker 7: George Bush was president. So al Gore actually wasn't being
Speaker 7: a gentleman. He actually wanted to continue the counting.
Speaker 3: I understand court, I mean, John, I understand that, but
Speaker 3: he didn't pull the stuff that that that Trump is pulling.
Speaker 3: I mean, eventually, I.
Speaker 7: Just wanted to make sure that I want to make
Speaker 7: sure the facts are clear, though. That is Al Gore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that, I know, I understand that. Of course,
Speaker 3: he the guy wanted to win. But you've got a
Speaker 3: president in Trump who still doesn't think he lost the election.
Speaker 3: I mean, Gore eventually had to concede. Trump never did.
Speaker 7: Neither did Hillary Clinton. For years she said she was stolen.
Speaker 3: But you know that, no, she could see it. She
Speaker 3: could she could see it. This guy, this guy Trump
Speaker 3: never conceded.
Speaker 7: Women Jillie Clinton said for years that the election was stolen.
Speaker 7: That's that's that's still giving the perception that it was stolen.
Speaker 3: Did she concede or did she not concede that she
Speaker 3: had not won the election? Did she bow up?
Speaker 7: She continually said for years, And he could play back
Speaker 7: the video, anyone can look it up. The election was stolen. Also,
Speaker 7: by the way, Donald Trump never let an insurrection. He
Speaker 7: told people to peacefully and.
Speaker 9: John, come on, yeah he did. After he did, he
Speaker 9: did after the fact. Come on, he knocked him after John,
Speaker 9: after the fact.
Speaker 3: They were attacking the capitol, and I know the facts.
Speaker 9: You just obviously Trump after the fact, when they attacked
Speaker 9: the capitol that that's when he said they should stand down.
Speaker 3: He incited a riot. People died. Don't give me that.
Speaker 7: Don't fact because you know it was James Cable that
Speaker 7: said it was the economy student and you believe it.
Speaker 7: On George Bush, you know your facts because you're in
Speaker 7: the business and you're misleading. Didn't raise listeners.
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I'm not at all, and you're right.
Speaker 3: I did misspeak. Look, I'm not I don't know politics
Speaker 3: like Dan Ray. I'm not going to pretend to. All Right,
Speaker 3: so I misspoke about it's the economy stupid. I got
Speaker 3: I made a mistake. But I'll tell you this. Donald
Speaker 3: Trump could have done a lot more to stem the
Speaker 3: tide on that insurrection. Okay, he fanned the flames period.
Speaker 3: He wanted to go. He wanted to go and cheer
Speaker 3: him on, and Secret Service said, hey, we got to
Speaker 3: get you out of here, mister president, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: He wanted to go lead the charge. All right, let's
Speaker 3: uh go to Alison and Maine. Allison, you're up in
Speaker 3: w Is it the economy? Thank you? Is it the
Speaker 3: economy stupid?
Speaker 8: Maybe?
Speaker 3: James Carr.
Speaker 10: Well, I just wanted to say, I can't believe it.
Speaker 10: I mean, mister Trump, do you not care about the economy,
Speaker 10: the inflation that we've had, the twenty thirty percent inflation
Speaker 10: just killing everybody, largely because the Democrats did ridiculous things
Speaker 10: like the so called Inflation Reduction Act, the most ridiculously
Speaker 10: named bill of all time. It costs two trillion dollars,
Speaker 10: mostly on you know, green energy boondoggles and things like that.
Speaker 10: And the fact that you know, and how about two
Speaker 10: hundred billion dollars to the Ukraine to just forestall the
Speaker 10: inevitable that that they'll have to come to some agreement
Speaker 10: with Russia taking parts of it and all that, And
Speaker 10: then who cares anyway, I mean, the Ukraine was part
Speaker 10: of a Soviet universe seventy years and before that it
Speaker 10: was part of Russia and other countries, So who cares.
Speaker 10: You know, it's just nonsense about you know, Pute's going
Speaker 10: to move on and take over Europe. That's just nonsense.
Speaker 10: And what about all the crime that's coming up? What
Speaker 10: about the open border? Do you like the open boarder?
Speaker 10: You like the millions and millions and millions of illegals
Speaker 10: just flooding into the country.
Speaker 3: Oh but Donald Trump didn't help. Listen, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to debate you on the Ukraine thing. That's fine, that's
Speaker 3: a fair opinion. I got it. I understand that. Okay,
Speaker 3: I have no argument with that. But Donald Trump stopped
Speaker 3: a bipartisan agreement.
Speaker 10: Oh please, that was a whimpy scene. It said that
Speaker 10: when the levels got to a certain level, then they
Speaker 10: cut back a little.
Speaker 3: Allison, was it better than what you have now?
Speaker 10: A little? But the Democrats created the whole flood by
Speaker 10: reversing all of Trump's policies. We didn't have the flood
Speaker 10: until until Biden got in.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 10: They're trying to put a little finger in the dyke
Speaker 10: to try to stop it.
Speaker 3: But also when you had listen, listen, the border's never
Speaker 3: been right. I don't care who it is, Republicans and Democrats,
Speaker 3: they've all done a lousy job with it. And Trump
Speaker 3: was separating families, which I do have a problem.
Speaker 10: That's another canard. And they all did that, you know,
Speaker 10: you know what they're commeding crimes. Of course, you separate
Speaker 10: the kids for a while from the adults until it's
Speaker 10: all sorted out.
Speaker 3: And you may, no, you don't do that. Look, here's
Speaker 3: the bottom line is that there was a bipartisan agreement. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're one, did you speak, But it's better than
Speaker 3: what you had now and your guy.
Speaker 10: Trump again, it was a lot better.
Speaker 3: But your guy Trump came in and he's your guy.
Speaker 10: He was the president of the United States. He's saying
Speaker 10: that guy, your guy, this isn't sports. He was the
Speaker 10: president of the United States, you know. And and and
Speaker 10: what about Kamala you know, uh enforcing all the black
Speaker 10: mats for years.
Speaker 3: President. If you're gonna you're gonna play that game with me,
Speaker 3: you have to call him out, all right?
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 10: But why what? What about her supporting all the Black
Speaker 10: Lives Matter rioters all across the country four years ago,
Speaker 10: setting up bail funds for them, and going on about
Speaker 10: how yes it should continue, and how you know and everything.
Speaker 10: How about that that was it was out?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, black lives do matter, and she has reversed.
Speaker 10: So the lives of the people, the police who are
Speaker 10: attacked the shops were her own.
Speaker 3: They do.
Speaker 10: People were killed, you know, right, you know, he was absurd,
Speaker 10: You know, one word was criminal, got you know, got
Speaker 10: into trouble with the police for the umpty time and
Speaker 10: died of heart failure and therefore the whole country burstened
Speaker 10: in the riots orchestrated riots.
Speaker 3: You mean you're you're talking about in Minnesota where a
Speaker 3: man was choked to death.
Speaker 10: No, he wasn't choked to death, you know, he wasn't.
Speaker 10: He died of heart failure in other complications because he
Speaker 10: had so much Sentinel and other drugs.
Speaker 3: Because they let me put it this way, if the
Speaker 3: police had placed them in handcuffs and put them in
Speaker 3: the car and not applied that maneuver, would he still
Speaker 3: be alive.
Speaker 10: It's a standard police maneuver when somebody's fighting with the police.
Speaker 3: I understand it went on way too long, Allison.
Speaker 10: No, it was on way too That's okay to just
Speaker 10: have giant riots all across the country.
Speaker 3: Of course it isn't. Of course it isn't. But they
Speaker 3: the police listen. I am pro police, but they may
Speaker 3: even the guy, even the kinds that were standing by
Speaker 3: new It went on way too long. That was the
Speaker 3: aggressive maneuver that cost the life of a citizen.
Speaker 10: Yes, criminal, a criminal, career criminal that had done.
Speaker 3: Amongst the criminal What were they put what were they
Speaker 3: putting them away for? What was it?
Speaker 10: Not that particular, but apparently assaulted gunpoint of pregnant women
Speaker 10: and all kinds of things. You know that, Well, of
Speaker 10: course you don't recall that because the left wing media
Speaker 10: suppressed all of that. He was Saint George, apparently apparently right,
Speaker 10: like the police just went along and just said, Hey,
Speaker 10: there's a black guy, let's go terrorize him, which is
Speaker 10: total nonsense.
Speaker 3: I understand it's nonsense, but the maneuver was not appropriate.
Speaker 10: But I'm not asking about that now. I'm talking about
Speaker 10: what Kamal is nonsense about defending them and setting up
Speaker 10: bail fund for all the rioters? Is that? Okay? What
Speaker 10: was more of an interaction? What went on for weeks?
Speaker 10: And places got burned down, shops got looted, police stations
Speaker 10: got burnt down.
Speaker 3: And I wanted for a whoa, whoa what police stations
Speaker 3: got burnt down?
Speaker 10: Station was burnt down in Minneapolis? Don't you ever follow
Speaker 10: the news at all?
Speaker 3: Yes, police station was not burned down as it was.
Speaker 10: Look it up. I'm not actually sure it was Minneapolis,
Speaker 10: but I think it was. But it definitely was a police.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: I'll look up the title. A complete police station was
Speaker 3: not burned.
Speaker 10: Down as it was?
Speaker 8: Yes, it was.
Speaker 10: I actutely guarantee that, and you're ndpicking again anyway, And
Speaker 10: I feel the third time I've asked you, what do
Speaker 10: you think about her supporting the policies of supporting rioters?
Speaker 3: How about that she doesn't support rioters? That's why will
Speaker 3: you be set up? But do you think do you
Speaker 3: think that because she's going to be she becomes president,
Speaker 3: that she's going to support riots.
Speaker 10: We supported bail fund for the rioters in the twenty
Speaker 10: twenty She set up a bail funding. Yes it should continue,
Speaker 10: she said that more than once, and how wonderful it was,
Speaker 10: and everything she didn't say wonderful, But no, she set
Speaker 10: up bail funds for them to get them out, and
Speaker 10: almost none of them was prosecuted, unlike all the people
Speaker 10: who wandered around the Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 10: who did almost nothing.
Speaker 3: Most of them did almost to present did.
Speaker 10: Almost none of the Black Lives Matter writers was sent
Speaker 10: away for any length of time at all. Most of
Speaker 10: their charges were dropped.
Speaker 3: You're telling me that when the attack on the Capitol,
Speaker 3: you're telling me that they did nothing, Alison, I completely
Speaker 3: disagree with I think you lot.
Speaker 10: Of them did do nothing. Much of them wandered in,
Speaker 10: you know, and they.
Speaker 8: Wondered in.
Speaker 3: They went through a barricade. Come on, Allison, that's not true.
Speaker 3: They guards dug.
Speaker 10: The only person, the only woman who was killed there
Speaker 10: was actually Babbit okay, who was a protester by some
Speaker 10: worthless security guard.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know you want you want me to get
Speaker 3: my fact straight. You got to do the same.
Speaker 10: You're actually have you heard, actually babbit? No, you have
Speaker 10: it right?
Speaker 3: No, I have not.
Speaker 10: No, of course you have it no, because you listen.
Speaker 10: You listen to the left wing media. You're totally brainwashed
Speaker 10: with them.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's me. I gotta get out of here.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a headache. I don't know how
Speaker 3: Dan Ray does it. Jesus, Rob help me. I got
Speaker 3: to take a break. We'll be back on WBZ.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: Welcome back WBC's Night Side, rapping things up for Dan
Speaker 3: Ray tonight of Gary Tangle sixty. Is it the economy?
Speaker 3: Is it the economy? Is that how you will vote
Speaker 3: based on the economy? I don't know if it is.
Speaker 3: Tim Tim Walsey, vice president of Candidate with Kamala Harris,
Speaker 3: his family is endorsing Trump than the Nebraska waltzs came
Speaker 3: out with sweatshirts and T shirts saying they're voting for Trump.
Speaker 3: I guess they're not that type of a family. I
Speaker 3: found that humorous. All right, let's get back to the calls.
Speaker 3: Let's suck to Franke in Northbridge. Hey, Frank, is it
Speaker 3: the economy?
Speaker 8: No, I don't think it's the economy.
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 8: There are much more important issues that they're going to
Speaker 8: drive this character right at the top of the list.
Speaker 8: That last call of that you had. Man, it's scary
Speaker 8: to think that it's scary to think that that attitude
Speaker 8: is out there late this late in the game.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, and she was correct there was
Speaker 3: a police station, you know. No, but I mean she
Speaker 3: was correct, she was correct about the Minneapolis police station.
Speaker 8: But yeah, but almost describing January sixth, the crowd is tourists,
Speaker 8: I mean serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my boy. That's the thing that gets me.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the tiebreaker for me with Trump.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, talk about brainwashed, you know, And like I say,
Speaker 8: you know, the thing of it is also to people
Speaker 8: forget the stock market is up forty since Biden got in.
Speaker 8: I mean, it was such a horrible economy. How could
Speaker 8: that be?
Speaker 3: I think, you know what I mean, No, and that's true,
Speaker 3: and the stock market continues to do well. I think.
Speaker 3: You know, again, it's all about the interest rates. If
Speaker 3: they come down, then people will be able to get money,
Speaker 3: then there'll be flush. I do think that it probably
Speaker 3: is because in New England it is extremely hard to
Speaker 3: buy a house.
Speaker 8: In New England, Yeah, it's very expensive to live here,
Speaker 8: but in the middle of the country that's cost of
Speaker 8: living is far less. And no doubt think is a
Speaker 8: up crime. Violent crime is way down, wages are up,
Speaker 8: unemployment is way down. No, I mean there are bigger
Speaker 8: issues this time around.
Speaker 3: It's the interest rates. I think that are killing people
Speaker 3: because if you do want to go get a mortgage,
Speaker 3: it's nine percent. That's a killer. You know, that's a killer.
Speaker 8: I mean, I can remember when it was twelve years
Speaker 8: ago when I bought a house that was twelve and
Speaker 8: three quarters was a good rate. I mean, you know,
Speaker 8: it's all relative.
Speaker 3: Well it is, and again, the interest rates have very
Speaker 3: little to do with the President. It's all about the
Speaker 3: Fed and they're probably going to get dropped yeah, but so,
Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with you, I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's the economy. I think that people are going
Speaker 3: to look at character. I think people are going to
Speaker 3: look at well, I know who Donald Trump is. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure who Kamala Harris could be because I don't
Speaker 3: know if she's presidential material. I really don't. At times
Speaker 3: she doesn't appear, she doesn't look at She was also
Speaker 3: thrown into it. She was a vice president. She was
Speaker 3: tossed into this thing. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Also too, don't forget. Uh you know, in the past
Speaker 8: four years, well the past eight years, a lot of
Speaker 8: those Trump that Trump corps, a lot of them have
Speaker 8: died off, you know. So I mean I mean that
Speaker 8: Trump call, you know, the the the real loons.
Speaker 3: So you know what I mean. Yeah, Well, I think listen,
Speaker 3: I have voted Republican, I have voted Democrat. I think
Speaker 3: Harris is going to win because I think there's a
Speaker 3: new group of voters that we never considered before. And
Speaker 3: it's the young people and it's the brats, and I
Speaker 3: think that's gonna I think it's going to be close,
Speaker 3: and I think that's going to be the difference. But
Speaker 3: I don't know it's it's my opinion.
Speaker 8: I don't know, yeah, but you can sense it. And
Speaker 8: there's no question that young people are going to make
Speaker 8: a huge difference system around.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if she's going to be a
Speaker 3: good president or not. I have no idea.
Speaker 8: Well, she certainly couldn't do worse than him.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think.
Speaker 8: I can't see her. I can't see her leading an insurrection,
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 3: So I'm with you on that, Frank. I appreciate the
Speaker 3: phone call. All right, let's go to Rick and Bell
Speaker 3: Rickett six seven thirty. Hey, Rick, you're on WBZ. I'm good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I I'd like Trump to get in. I
Speaker 5: think it will be a really close race. And uh,
Speaker 5: I think if Trump gets in, quite frankly, he'll only
Speaker 5: probably be able to get things back to the middle.
Speaker 5: So I don't think he I don't think he's a
Speaker 5: radical writer or anything.
Speaker 3: I think, oh he's not. Oh he's not. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: And especially when it comes to like the abortion thing,
Speaker 3: leave it to the States, you know. Look, look, look Trump,
Speaker 3: Trump really is in any date all. Somebody told me
Speaker 3: once that politicians are people that were too ugly to
Speaker 3: be actors, you know, I mean, and there's some there's
Speaker 3: some truth to that. They like the attention, they want
Speaker 3: to be up front, they want you know, and they're
Speaker 3: performers and Trump's a performer. And I think that if
Speaker 3: he had listened to his advisors when he was in
Speaker 3: and just kind of been normal, he probably would have
Speaker 3: been re elected.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: But there are just some things sometimes he just can't
Speaker 3: help himself with the things he said or the things
Speaker 3: he does that turned people off. Because that and I
Speaker 3: think that's what hurts him. If he had just kind
Speaker 3: of played it safe, listen to it advisors, you know,
Speaker 3: have a conservative type of platform, he would he would
Speaker 3: have done two terms. You know, he would have he
Speaker 3: would have done two terms. So but I mean, so
Speaker 3: you're going to vote for Trump? Why, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you to vote why. Why why
Speaker 3: would you vote for Trump? I'm just curious, like what.
Speaker 5: You do with the economy. I think he I think
Speaker 5: he did a good job on the border. The border
Speaker 5: has not been perfect, that's true, but he he tightened
Speaker 5: it up a lot more. I think he only had
Speaker 5: about one hundred more miles of border while to finish,
Speaker 5: and he did the best he could turn his administration
Speaker 5: and uh, because he was in court a lot, you know, and.
Speaker 3: Uh, well that's the problem, you know, he gets in
Speaker 3: his own way.
Speaker 5: Well, I think it was. I think when I say
Speaker 5: he was in court, I think the whole Steele dossier
Speaker 5: thing was, Oh that was stupid.
Speaker 3: I mean, because they all do it. I mean, that's that.
Speaker 3: That's stupid. I mean Biden too. They nobody, but nobody
Speaker 3: keeps track of their records, you know.
Speaker 5: I know, I know, but they they they wanted to
Speaker 5: get him when when he was in office, but he
Speaker 5: managed to do some some some pretty good stuff for
Speaker 5: the country and uh, certainly the economy, and I would
Speaker 5: love to see the border closed up as much as
Speaker 5: possible and people come legally in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to be. It has to be taken
Speaker 3: care of. Now. Yeah, no, how do you respond to
Speaker 3: there was a bipartisan deal on the table and Trump
Speaker 3: didn't want it to happen. He wanted to use it
Speaker 3: as a political p like, what is your opinion on that?
Speaker 5: Well, why didn't they do that from the very beginning?
Speaker 5: They waited three years into the fairpoint not quite a fairpoint,
Speaker 5: not quite yeah, not quite three years. But all of
Speaker 5: a sudden they want to do it when millions have
Speaker 5: have gotten into the country at fairpoint.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I wondered that too. I wondered that too.
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's that's that that is a legitimate description,
Speaker 3: just to see. I agree with you. I I don't
Speaker 3: know why it can't be fixed. I really don't. Other
Speaker 3: countries do it. I know we were a melting pot.
Speaker 3: I think I believe people should be allowed to come
Speaker 3: into this country legally. I'm with you on that. I
Speaker 3: think we can be a compassionate country. There has to
Speaker 3: be some order to it. I think that we fall
Speaker 3: in love with history where we go back to the
Speaker 3: nineteen hundred, so the eighteen nineties, and you know, people
Speaker 3: came here from other countries to develop a better way
Speaker 3: of life, and it was different then. There was a
Speaker 3: lot more opportunity, there was more room in the country.
Speaker 3: You had a different situation. And people try to say, well,
Speaker 3: this is what we did before. It doesn't translate. Now,
Speaker 3: you're right, there needs to be more. Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't translate. It's like you could say, well,
Speaker 3: my ancestors came from Italy and they worked and they
Speaker 3: got into or they came from various Russia and they
Speaker 3: worked in industry and they raised families and they send
Speaker 3: kids to college and they you know, that's what happened.
Speaker 3: You know, that's what happened, and it was great. You know,
Speaker 3: my parents came from Canada, you know, so as you
Speaker 3: know in various relatives from Ireland and all that, that's
Speaker 3: not happening. That's not what we're talking about. It's not
Speaker 3: the same thing. So there has to be some order.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. There has to be some order.
Speaker 5: So yeah, we need order. We need the education system
Speaker 5: not to be teaching some of the crazy stuff they
Speaker 5: teach us math, science, reading, writing. Teach the kids to
Speaker 5: be loving and kind to the other kids, even when
Speaker 5: they're different. You don't have to go with these seven genders.
Speaker 3: I just wow. I mean, but you know, yeah, I
Speaker 3: hear you. But you know what, that's a it's a
Speaker 3: different generation. So I will I will just say, Okay,
Speaker 3: if that's what we need to do, that's what we
Speaker 3: need to do.
Speaker 8: But don't you.
Speaker 5: Think maybe late, maybe when the kids get a little older,
Speaker 5: like I think they're starting. I'm really young, and it's
Speaker 5: not it's just like you don't talk sex with young
Speaker 5: kiddy kids because you want them to hate boys and
Speaker 5: be think they're roucky. You want kids to be kids. Hopefully,
Speaker 5: hopefully they're not starting too young.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean to be a young I
Speaker 3: will just leave it at this. To be a young
Speaker 3: person today, there's a lot on their minds, a lot
Speaker 3: on their play. I appreciate the phone call. Good stuff.
Speaker 5: I just want to say I'm a kitchen sink drummer too.
Speaker 5: I don't know a lot of people who are, but
Speaker 5: and I'm a real drum set drummer from a long
Speaker 5: time ago. I'm sure you are too. But the kids
Speaker 5: think it's really awesome to play drums on. Gary, have
Speaker 5: a great night, all right.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the phone Tame, I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 3: That was a great phone call. He's going to vote
Speaker 3: for Trump. I'm curious why. And we can have a discussion.
Speaker 3: We don't have to yell at each other. And oh
Speaker 3: my god, uh we are going to get to John
Speaker 3: and Franklin. I have to take a break through six
Speaker 3: one seven, two thirty the phone number, Gary Tank. We're
Speaker 3: wrapping things up for Dan Wright tonight on night Side,
Speaker 3: and is it the economy. Is it is that what
Speaker 3: we're going to vote on? Because I keep hearing that
Speaker 3: it is, But I don't know if that's gonna decide it.
Speaker 3: We'll wrap things up on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News.
Speaker 3: Radio, wrapping things up for Danny tonight. Gary Tank we
Speaker 3: here on WBZ six one, seven thirty. Is it the economy? Uh?
Speaker 3: Presidents of candidate Vice President Kamala Harris coming out with
Speaker 3: her tax plan today, fifty thousand dollars credit for new
Speaker 3: companies that start up, new startup companies. Also, she's offering
Speaker 3: tax breaks to the middle class. I mean, is it enough?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that she's going to get middle
Speaker 3: class voters anyway, four thousand dollars at tax break per child,
Speaker 3: which will certainly help. I think when interest rates come down,
Speaker 3: and that's going to happen between now and the election,
Speaker 3: that is going to obviously help things. And that's always
Speaker 3: that's not partisan to me. So I don't know if
Speaker 3: people are going to vote for the economy if Donald
Speaker 3: Trump becomes president, does that automatically mean that things will
Speaker 3: be better just because it worked for him? Last time.
Speaker 3: Does that mean it's going to work this time? I
Speaker 3: don't know, But I think there are so many other
Speaker 3: questions regarding both candidates that I don't know. If it's
Speaker 3: the economy, I think it's just a simple answer. John
Speaker 3: and Franklin, you're up on WBC's Night Side. What are
Speaker 3: you saying, sir? What's going on? What do you think?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 6: It's it's a it's a multifaceted issue. You know, no
Speaker 6: one's going to say no. And I and personally, I
Speaker 6: think that you know, that might be a tiebreaker on
Speaker 6: any any given person's you know opinion, you know, left.
Speaker 3: Or right, it might be. You know, it's interesting. I
Speaker 3: think that's a good point to jump on. What you're
Speaker 3: saying is if someone has some money, right, if someone
Speaker 3: is upper middle class or maybe upper class and close
Speaker 3: to the one percent, but they have liberal you know,
Speaker 3: they they're they're they're economically conservative but socially liberal. They're
Speaker 3: not sure how Kamala Harris is gonna do. She doesn't
Speaker 3: really have a track record. They go with Trump and
Speaker 3: the finances will be the tiebreaker, could be, but I
Speaker 3: don't think it's the one and only thing. You know,
Speaker 3: and I talked to friends of mine. Friends of mine
Speaker 3: have said, of course, it's the economy. I said, I
Speaker 3: don't think it is.
Speaker 6: It depends on who you ask, and you know where
Speaker 6: they're where they're brokerage account sitting at the time. But
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, frankly, it's about more than just
Speaker 6: you know, I mean everyone talked with the market. Market
Speaker 6: is a huge you know, you can just put that
Speaker 6: into twenty thirty different markets into itself. I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: stock market shirt ripped during Trump. Sure, and you a
Speaker 6: full disclosure. I'm probably gonna vote for Trump, I think.
Speaker 6: But okay, he walked into a relatively easy situation. I mean,
Speaker 6: from two thousand and ten to twenty and twenty, you know,
Speaker 6: a couple blitz on the radar, but everything was great, fine, right,
Speaker 6: you know. In in Biden's defense, sure, everyone you know,
Speaker 6: hems and hawes, I'll say on the radio about inflation,
Speaker 6: a lot of that. I do think it is his fault.
Speaker 6: But I mean, you can't you can't, you know, just
Speaker 6: bypass the idea of all the stimulus through you know,
Speaker 6: Trump for COVID. I mean, all that is stimulated in
Speaker 6: the economy, all that you know, cash flooding the system. Sure,
Speaker 6: you're going to cause inflation, which you know is the
Speaker 6: negative side of the economy. But but to pull it back,
Speaker 6: you know, hearing about you know, I mean they've been
Speaker 6: talking about it forever. Will they do it?
Speaker 7: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: But talking about just look at unrealized capital gains tax
Speaker 6: I mean, I think that's ridiculous. I mean, we wanted.
Speaker 6: I heard a couple of callers ago talking about the
Speaker 6: idea of getting the house in Massachusetts, New England is
Speaker 6: very hard. Yes, it's very hard. And talk about unrealized
Speaker 6: capital gains. That's on any asset. So talk about uh,
Speaker 6: unrealized capital gains on your house making it that much harder.
Speaker 3: Can you can you break that down?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So the idea go ahead, go ahead, you go ahead
Speaker 3: and break it down.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 6: So so the idea of unrealized capital gains do and
Speaker 6: everyone talks about the ridge the don't use elon Musk
Speaker 6: for example. You know all these big wigs, they're not
Speaker 6: taking a paycheck. You're taking a very little paycheck, and
Speaker 6: everyone talks about taxes. So we could go down that
Speaker 6: rabbit hole. I'll avoid it. I'm I'm leaning right on
Speaker 6: that on that subject just on the idea of paying
Speaker 6: out taxes. Now that's a bunch of malarkey. But they
Speaker 6: you know, maybe income TAXI that's a different stort. But
Speaker 6: talk about realized versus unrealized capital gains on you know,
Speaker 6: these millionaires and billionaires that they all like to say,
Speaker 6: you know about you know, you gained one hundred million
Speaker 6: dollar networth, paid tax on zero of it. And that's
Speaker 6: a okay because it's it's all tied up in stock
Speaker 6: and inequity in these companies that they haven't you know,
Speaker 6: made a transaction it. So you know, for example, you
Speaker 6: know Elon Musf makes a hundred million dollars today because
Speaker 6: evaluations of his equities. Fine, that doesn't matter because he
Speaker 6: hasn't cashed out on it. Right, So I mean dumb
Speaker 6: that down to you and I haven't read anything this.
Speaker 6: This could be pure speculation, full disclosure, you know, based
Speaker 6: on you know, where do we draw the line on
Speaker 6: the low side? Right, So mom and pop you know,
Speaker 6: scrape and buy make you know, a million dollars in
Speaker 6: their house in the last thirty years. At what point
Speaker 6: do we tax them on unrealized capital games?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 6: So you get a tax bill because your house went
Speaker 6: up in value, you never made a dollar. All it
Speaker 6: did was cost you money. And then I guess I
Speaker 6: would say, on the side, do we count you know,
Speaker 6: unrealized capital losses against that. There's so much up in
Speaker 6: the air, and I mean it's politics. Everyone's throwing fuze
Speaker 6: words around.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we're in Buffett and correct me if
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. Didn't Buffett come out and say, listen, I
Speaker 3: should pay more in taxes because of what you're saying. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I take I think you was paying like seventeen percent
Speaker 3: as opposed to forty percent. I mean, I listen, this
Speaker 3: is not my area of expertise, I will tell you,
Speaker 3: but I do know this. If you get between say
Speaker 3: you have a double income, like your double income family,
Speaker 3: and you get between two hundred and fifty and four
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars a year, which sounds like a lot
Speaker 3: of money. It is a lot of money, But then
Speaker 3: you can get nailed for forty percent on tax right
Speaker 3: because you don't have You've worked your ass off. Both
Speaker 3: of you are making money. Maybe you're working over time,
Speaker 3: you get your master's degree or whatever, so you could
Speaker 3: get into this into this this income range. But you
Speaker 3: don't have the capital gains and you don't have the right,
Speaker 3: so Buffett has. But yet forty percent goes to the government.
Speaker 3: That's a problem.
Speaker 6: That's a beautiful part of capitalism where in theory, you
Speaker 6: work hard, you know, you get rewarded. I understand taxes.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's just the way it goes. I'm not
Speaker 6: calling to throw a tea in the harbor, which you
Speaker 6: know sounds fun, but you know, we all saw what
Speaker 6: happened after that. I'm not calling for that, you know.
Speaker 6: But frankly, you know, sure Warren Buffet can say that, sir,
Speaker 6: all the you know, I'll say, you know, I keep
Speaker 6: calling them big wigs, uh, you know, supporting these these
Speaker 6: politicians doing this and doing that. I mean, they can
Speaker 6: say whatever they want. Warren Buffet understands tax go I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, should the tax go change, probably, you know,
Speaker 6: I think the little guy is probably paying too much.
Speaker 6: But also, you know, the big guys are the ones
Speaker 6: incentivizing everything. You know, sure we're talking about income taxes,
Speaker 6: how about payroll tax how about property taxes, how about
Speaker 6: excise tax? I mean, there are so many other taxes
Speaker 6: that they're paying. You know, the government incentivizes people to
Speaker 6: do what they want through tax code. We want people employed,
Speaker 6: we want people that have healthcare right right. So that's
Speaker 6: how it works. So I'm not going to solve anything.
Speaker 6: I'm just a twenty six year old guy driving a
Speaker 6: car down the mask pipe.
Speaker 3: I forgot to call in, Josh. I appreciate your calling,
Speaker 3: and you know more about it than I do, so
Speaker 3: thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, let me let me respond to one quick thing.
Speaker 6: And I forget who it was. I think was the
Speaker 6: gentleman from uh North Christian talking about, you know, the
Speaker 6: Trump supporters. And I've been listening to you guys for
Speaker 6: a while, but you know that you know, dying off
Speaker 6: getting older. You'd be surprised. I worked at one of
Speaker 6: the largest companies in New and I of course I'm
Speaker 6: not going to say which one, but you know, I
Speaker 6: talked all at twenty three, twenty four year olds, even
Speaker 6: twenty two year olds who just you know, sign up
Speaker 6: what eyed bushytailed. You know, let me getting to it
Speaker 6: a once, you know it, drinks have to work. It'd
Speaker 6: be a lot. There's a lot more new graduate Trump
Speaker 6: supporters than a one would imagine. So and I'm not
Speaker 6: sure you know, we called the silent majority anymore, you know,
Speaker 6: whatever they used to call it. I think it was
Speaker 6: silent majority back in twenty or sixteen, but a lot
Speaker 6: more than even I think I would have imagined.
Speaker 3: So I will say that, I will say I'm glad,
Speaker 3: I mean, and thank you for the phone call. I
Speaker 3: think it's a good point because I've experienced it in
Speaker 3: my own house, John, thank you for the call with
Speaker 3: uh you two with one of my kids, and we
Speaker 3: had discussions and a little more to the right that
Speaker 3: I imagine, and I said, good for you, man, do
Speaker 3: your own thing. He might have a point the other issue,
Speaker 3: because I don't think people are dying off. The other issue, though,
Speaker 3: is on the left. There's definitely been a mobilization of
Speaker 3: young voters. So which mobilization is going to be greater,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just guessing. I think it might
Speaker 3: be on the left. I think the younger voter mobilization
Speaker 3: may be a little bit bigger on the left than
Speaker 3: on the right. But I think he makes a very
Speaker 3: good point. Trump voters aren't simply just a bunch of
Speaker 3: old guys. We got to go. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: It's been a ball I'll be back tomorrow night at
Speaker 3: eight o'clock on WBZ. Rob Brooks, thank you, Marita l Rossa.
Speaker 3: We appreciate it. This has been Nightside on WBZ.