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<v Speaker 1>It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray unknowing Mazy Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump? I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>provide content that promotes a specific political party or a

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<v Speaker 2>specific candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>Alexa, Why should I vote for Kamala Harris?

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<v Speaker 2>While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>the most significant maybe that she is a strong candidate

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<v Speaker 2>with a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first

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<v Speaker 2>female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major

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<v Speaker 2>gender barrier, and her career in politics has been characterized

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<v Speaker 2>by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on

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<v Speaker 2>helping disenfranchised communities.

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<v Speaker 3>I did is Bezos a Democrat? I didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Nightside. I'm Gary Tangwin for Dan Ray

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<v Speaker 3>six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty. Yeah. And I

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<v Speaker 3>have to give Marita LaRosa, a producer who points that

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<v Speaker 3>out to me tonight. Excuse me that when you talk

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<v Speaker 3>to Alexa and you ask about Trump, No, nothing, not

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about him, but Vice President Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, blah blah bla bla b b ba bah.

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<v Speaker 3>Even AI is on the side. AI is against Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>I think This is hilarious, absolutely hilarious. Now, obviously Amazon,

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<v Speaker 3>which runs alection, they've got to fix that. That seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be a little partisan to me. But Bezos has

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<v Speaker 3>so much money he doesn't have to worry. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>like Bezos is going to get that tax break, right.

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<v Speaker 3>She's talking about a fifty thousand dollars tax break for

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<v Speaker 3>startup companies, but they can yeah, they deduct fifty to

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<v Speaker 3>fifty grand for startup companies. She also says families, middle

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<v Speaker 3>class families can get a four thousand dollars tax break

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<v Speaker 3>per kid. So that's what Kamala Harris is doing. But

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like big business like Amazon is behind her.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was hilarious. But it's obvious that the

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<v Speaker 3>vice president is targeting the middle class, and as she could.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, listen, Trump's going to be pro big business,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least that's the perception. I just think he's

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<v Speaker 3>pro Trump and she's going to target the middle class,

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<v Speaker 3>which seems like a good strategy. But I'm curious what

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<v Speaker 3>you think at six point seven, two, five, four, ten

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<v Speaker 3>thirty is it really the economy? Is it really is

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<v Speaker 3>that what you're going to vote on? Are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to vote for Donald Trump because you think he's better

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<v Speaker 3>for the economy. Are you going to vote for Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>Harris because of the tax breaks? Are you not going

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<v Speaker 3>to vote for Kamala Harris because the Biden administration did

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<v Speaker 3>not have the run of economic prosperity that the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>administration did. Because I don't think that's it. In the past,

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<v Speaker 3>people would say it's the economy stupid, right with George

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<v Speaker 3>Bush the senior if you will, it's the economy stupid. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>at that point in time, I thought that is true.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people point to the economy now and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that's what's gonna decide this race. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it comes down to who people like. Whether you like

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump or whether you like Kamala Harris or who

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<v Speaker 3>you don't like. I don't like Trump. I'm paraphrasing here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you may say I don't like Trump and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like Harris. Less it's the less of two evils.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going to vote on the economy at six, one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 3>ten thirty? Are you really and be honest? Now, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you may say, yeah, well, Gary, listen, I got a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of kids. She's gonna give me a four thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars tax break on each kid super or I want

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<v Speaker 3>to start a small business and I can use a

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<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand. Okay, fine, But for the rest of us,

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<v Speaker 3>are we going to put a guy in office that

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<v Speaker 3>in January sixth? You know, these people wanted to overflow

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<v Speaker 3>the government, and people died over throw the government, I

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<v Speaker 3>should say. And who didn't handle COVID great? And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know who would have handled COVID well, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think they would have been on the same page with

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<v Speaker 3>Fauci instead of just going crazy and going off on

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<v Speaker 3>his own rants and tantrums on Twitter. Look, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if Harris is going to be a good president.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's the great unknown. I understand her.

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<v Speaker 3>She doesn't really have a record. You know, Trump has

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<v Speaker 3>a record. The economy was good when Trump was president.

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<v Speaker 3>Interest rates if they come down and probably going to

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<v Speaker 3>come down before the election, well, and if Harris is

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<v Speaker 3>re elected, that means she may have a good economy.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it really about the money with this election? Is

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<v Speaker 3>it really? Because I don't think it is. It's good

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<v Speaker 3>at day in New Hampshire. Dan, you're up on WBC's

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<v Speaker 3>Night set H Gary.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I agree with you. I've been thinking

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<v Speaker 4>the same thing. I don't think it is the economy

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<v Speaker 4>stupid this time around. What the thing is? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>people go around saying, how well politicians, you know, they

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<v Speaker 4>all lie and everything else. But the difference with Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>Gary is he doesn't even know what the hell it

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<v Speaker 4>is he's lying about.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, I know, it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 4>He just sits there and makes up stuff. The greatest

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<v Speaker 4>economy in the history of the world won the election

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<v Speaker 4>by the biggest landslide in the history of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't how about this, how about never conceded the election?

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<v Speaker 3>The election was stolen from him? Yeah, and just on

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<v Speaker 3>and on and on and on. And here's a guy

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<v Speaker 3>in al Gore, and many feel that the election was

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<v Speaker 3>taken from him, and it was, and he conceded, and

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<v Speaker 3>he said, okay, you know, President Bush, it's yours. He

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<v Speaker 3>was a gentleman. He didn't start a revolt. He didn't

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<v Speaker 3>ask people to attack the capital.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, well, because al Gore was a patriot, it

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<v Speaker 4>should have been president would have been a great one.

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<v Speaker 4>But the Supreme Court did rule in favor of Bush, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and he had to say he accepted all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he accepted it.

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<v Speaker 4>He said okay, and he told all of us we

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<v Speaker 4>had accepted as well. That's so you talk about me

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<v Speaker 4>when the Florida I remember that Friday when the Florida

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court ruled for Gore and they started counting votes again.

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<v Speaker 4>Within hours, the US Supreme Court is in there saying no,

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<v Speaker 4>stop counting the votes.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah.

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<v Speaker 4>That was as third good Marshal of only Sylvan sitting there.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Clarence Thomas Albow would have been presidents. Well

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<v Speaker 4>you have a much different world today.

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<v Speaker 3>Well but you know that's that's the way the cookie crumbles.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you can look on both sides.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 3>In George W. Bush after nine to eleven was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>So and I'm a registered Democrat, but Dan, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for the phone call. I appreciate it. Is it the

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<v Speaker 3>economy when you go into the voting booth. Are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to vote for Donald Trump because you think he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to help your pocketbook? Are you going to vote

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<v Speaker 3>for Kamala Harris because you think she's going to help

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<v Speaker 3>your pocketbook? And maybe with what she is promising, that

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<v Speaker 3>may be the case. The four thousand dollars credit for

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<v Speaker 3>each kid, the fifty thousand tax credit. If you're starting

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<v Speaker 3>up a new business, small business, getting the economy going.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>And it is also and I'm asking this question, is

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<v Speaker 3>that what we need right now? I think what we

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<v Speaker 3>need in this country is a lower cost of living.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if giving a fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>credit for small businesses addresses that it's just too damn

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<v Speaker 3>expensive to live in America. Period. It's crazy. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how some people do it, especially in New England

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to try to now, I'm not Now

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<v Speaker 3>she has talked about price fixing. I am not for

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<v Speaker 3>price fixing, am not. I am not a communist. You're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to do that. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 3>ten thirty. Maybe they bring interest rates down, maybe that'll

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<v Speaker 3>fix things again. But again it comes to interest rates.

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<v Speaker 3>We know it's all about the feed. It's not about

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<v Speaker 3>who's president. Is it the economy stupid in this presidential election?

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<v Speaker 3>Your calls coming up next on wbz's night Side Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to Dan ray Line from the Window World Nightside

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<v Speaker 1>Studios on WBZ News.

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<v Speaker 3>Radio sixty seven two thirty of a phone number Gary

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<v Speaker 3>Tangway for Dan Ray tonight taking some calls I just

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<v Speaker 3>saw regarding the economy. Is it the economy? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>this time around? That's a breaking news came out of

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<v Speaker 3>the school shooting in Georgia. Horrific that coch Gray, the

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen year old who's been arrested for this. They talked

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<v Speaker 3>to him about threats prior to this. Look, if you

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<v Speaker 3>make a threat to a school, you're out. You're out.

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<v Speaker 3>We cannot we cannot take any more chances with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we saw this with the last school shooting,

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<v Speaker 3>where the parents knew that the kid had access to

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<v Speaker 3>the gun and they I mean, it's insane. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>take any chances. If there is a threat or be

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<v Speaker 3>behavior from a student, they're out. I'm sorry, you just can't.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't have this. And there's a report saying there

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<v Speaker 3>was a warning about him prior to it happening. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if he was already in school. Police were

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<v Speaker 3>there quickly, they were able to stop the violence. But

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<v Speaker 3>if a student makes a threat in the school, they're out, period.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. What's it going to take? People? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>the economy? Stupid? Are you going to vote with your

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<v Speaker 3>pocketbook coming up in November six, one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 3>ten thirty. Let's go to John and Boston. John, you're

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<v Speaker 3>on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I didn't thank Garry Jarry. Actually it was a

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<v Speaker 7>I think you said George Bors said it was the

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<v Speaker 7>economy stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did I mess up? Who was it?

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<v Speaker 7>I think you know it was James Cobble in nineteen

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<v Speaker 7>ninety two that said it's the economy student.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was against I thank you for correcting me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Carville was not thank you for correcting me.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's uh. And al Gore actually he wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>continue the count and continue contesting the result. It was

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<v Speaker 7>the Supreme Court on December twelfth, was also happens to

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<v Speaker 7>be the feast day Alida Gueralupe that decided said it's

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<v Speaker 7>it's the counting has got to be over, and that

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<v Speaker 7>George Bush was president. So al Gore actually wasn't being

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<v Speaker 7>a gentleman. He actually wanted to continue the counting.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand court, I mean, John, I understand that, but

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't pull the stuff that that that Trump is pulling.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, eventually, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Just wanted to make sure that I want to make

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<v Speaker 7>sure the facts are clear, though. That is Al Gore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I get that, I know, I understand that. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>he the guy wanted to win. But you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>president in Trump who still doesn't think he lost the election.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Gore eventually had to concede. Trump never did.

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<v Speaker 7>Neither did Hillary Clinton. For years she said she was stolen.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know that, no, she could see it. She

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<v Speaker 3>could she could see it. This guy, this guy Trump

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<v Speaker 3>never conceded.

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<v Speaker 7>Women Jillie Clinton said for years that the election was stolen.

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<v Speaker 7>That's that's that's still giving the perception that it was stolen.

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<v Speaker 3>Did she concede or did she not concede that she

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<v Speaker 3>had not won the election? Did she bow up?

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<v Speaker 7>She continually said for years, And he could play back

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<v Speaker 7>the video, anyone can look it up. The election was stolen. Also,

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<v Speaker 9>John, come on, yeah he did. After he did, he

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<v Speaker 3>They were attacking the capitol, and I know the facts.

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<v Speaker 9>You just obviously Trump after the fact, when they attacked

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<v Speaker 3>He incited a riot. People died. Don't give me that.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't fact because you know it was James Cable that

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<v Speaker 7>said it was the economy student and you believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know. I'm not at all, and you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>I did misspeak. Look, I'm not I don't know politics

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<v Speaker 3>like Dan Ray. I'm not going to pretend to. All Right,

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<v Speaker 3>so I misspoke about it's the economy stupid. I got

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to go. He wanted to go and cheer

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<v Speaker 3>him on, and Secret Service said, hey, we got to

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to go lead the charge. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 3>uh go to Alison and Maine. Allison, you're up in

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<v Speaker 3>w Is it the economy? Thank you? Is it the

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<v Speaker 3>economy stupid?

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 3>James Carr.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I just wanted to say, I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, mister Trump, do you not care about the economy,

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<v Speaker 10>the inflation that we've had, the twenty thirty percent inflation

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<v Speaker 10>just killing everybody, largely because the Democrats did ridiculous things

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<v Speaker 10>like the so called Inflation Reduction Act, the most ridiculously

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<v Speaker 10>named bill of all time. It costs two trillion dollars,

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<v Speaker 10>And the fact that you know, and how about two

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<v Speaker 10>with Russia taking parts of it and all that, And

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<v Speaker 10>then who cares anyway, I mean, the Ukraine was part

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<v Speaker 10>You know, it's just nonsense about you know, Pute's going

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<v Speaker 10>to move on and take over Europe. That's just nonsense.

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<v Speaker 10>And what about all the crime that's coming up? What

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<v Speaker 10>about the open border? Do you like the open boarder?

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<v Speaker 10>You like the millions and millions and millions of illegals

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but Donald Trump didn't help. Listen, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 10>Oh please, that was a whimpy scene. It said that

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<v Speaker 10>when the levels got to a certain level, then they

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<v Speaker 3>Allison, was it better than what you have now?

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<v Speaker 10>A little? But the Democrats created the whole flood by

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 10>They're trying to put a little finger in the dyke

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<v Speaker 3>But also when you had listen, listen, the border's never

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<v Speaker 3>been right. I don't care who it is, Republicans and Democrats,

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<v Speaker 3>was separating families, which I do have a problem.

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<v Speaker 10>That's another canard. And they all did that, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>you know what they're commeding crimes. Of course, you separate

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<v Speaker 3>And you may, no, you don't do that. Look, here's

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom line is that there was a bipartisan agreement. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're one, did you speak, But it's better than

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<v Speaker 10>Trump again, it was a lot better.

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<v Speaker 3>But your guy Trump came in and he's your guy.

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<v Speaker 10>He was the president of the United States. He's saying

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<v Speaker 10>that guy, your guy, this isn't sports. He was the

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<v Speaker 10>what about Kamala you know, uh enforcing all the black

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<v Speaker 3>President. If you're gonna you're gonna play that game with me,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to call him out, all right?

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<v Speaker 8>All right?

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<v Speaker 10>But why what? What about her supporting all the Black

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<v Speaker 10>Lives Matter rioters all across the country four years ago,

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<v Speaker 10>setting up bail funds for them, and going on about

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<v Speaker 10>how yes it should continue, and how you know and everything.

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<v Speaker 10>How about that that was it was out?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, black lives do matter, and she has reversed.

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<v Speaker 10>So the lives of the people, the police who are

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<v Speaker 3>They do.

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<v Speaker 10>People were killed, you know, right, you know, he was absurd,

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<v Speaker 10>You know, one word was criminal, got you know, got

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<v Speaker 10>into trouble with the police for the umpty time and

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<v Speaker 10>died of heart failure and therefore the whole country burstened

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<v Speaker 3>You mean you're you're talking about in Minnesota where a

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<v Speaker 10>No, he wasn't choked to death, you know, he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 10>He died of heart failure in other complications because he

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<v Speaker 3>Because they let me put it this way, if the

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<v Speaker 3>police had placed them in handcuffs and put them in

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<v Speaker 3>the car and not applied that maneuver, would he still

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<v Speaker 10>It's a standard police maneuver when somebody's fighting with the police.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand it went on way too long, Allison.

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<v Speaker 10>No, it was on way too That's okay to just

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<v Speaker 3>Of course it isn't. Of course it isn't. But they

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<v Speaker 3>new It went on way too long. That was the

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<v Speaker 3>aggressive maneuver that cost the life of a citizen.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, criminal, a criminal, career criminal that had done.

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<v Speaker 3>Amongst the criminal What were they put what were they

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<v Speaker 10>Not that particular, but apparently assaulted gunpoint of pregnant women

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<v Speaker 10>and all kinds of things. You know that, Well, of

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<v Speaker 10>suppressed all of that. He was Saint George, apparently apparently right,

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<v Speaker 10>like the police just went along and just said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand it's nonsense, but the maneuver was not appropriate.

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<v Speaker 10>But I'm not asking about that now. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 10>what Kamal is nonsense about defending them and setting up

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<v Speaker 10>bail fund for all the rioters? Is that? Okay? What

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<v Speaker 10>was more of an interaction? What went on for weeks?

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<v Speaker 10>And places got burned down, shops got looted, police stations

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<v Speaker 3>And I wanted for a whoa, whoa what police stations

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<v Speaker 3>got burnt down?

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<v Speaker 10>Station was burnt down in Minneapolis? Don't you ever follow

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, police station was not burned down as it was.

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<v Speaker 10>Look it up. I'm not actually sure it was Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 10>but I think it was. But it definitely was a police.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll look up the title. A complete police station was

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<v Speaker 10>Down as it was?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, it was.

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<v Speaker 10>I actutely guarantee that, and you're ndpicking again anyway, And

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<v Speaker 10>I feel the third time I've asked you, what do

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<v Speaker 3>How about that she doesn't support rioters? That's why will

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<v Speaker 3>think that because she's going to be she becomes president,

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<v Speaker 3>that she's going to support riots.

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<v Speaker 10>We supported bail fund for the rioters in the twenty

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<v Speaker 10>twenty She set up a bail funding. Yes it should continue,

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<v Speaker 10>she said that more than once, and how wonderful it was,

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<v Speaker 10>and everything she didn't say wonderful, But no, she set

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<v Speaker 10>up bail funds for them to get them out, and

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<v Speaker 10>almost none of them was prosecuted, unlike all the people

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<v Speaker 10>who wandered around the Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 10>who did almost nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of them did almost to present did.

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<v Speaker 10>Almost none of the Black Lives Matter writers was sent

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<v Speaker 3>You're telling me that when the attack on the Capitol,

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<v Speaker 3>you're telling me that they did nothing, Alison, I completely

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<v Speaker 10>Of them did do nothing. Much of them wandered in,

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<v Speaker 8>Wondered in.

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<v Speaker 3>They went through a barricade. Come on, Allison, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>They guards dug.

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<v Speaker 10>The only person, the only woman who was killed there

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<v Speaker 10>was actually Babbit okay, who was a protester by some

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know you want you want me to get

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<v Speaker 10>You're actually have you heard, actually babbit? No, you have

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<v Speaker 3>No, I have not.

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<v Speaker 10>No, of course you have it no, because you listen.

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<v Speaker 10>You listen to the left wing media. You're totally brainwashed

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's me. I gotta get out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, what a headache. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back WBC's Night Side, rapping things up for Dan

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<v Speaker 3>Ray tonight of Gary Tangle sixty. Is it the economy?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it the economy? Is that how you will vote

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<v Speaker 3>based on the economy? I don't know if it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim Tim Walsey, vice president of Candidate with Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 3>his family is endorsing Trump than the Nebraska waltzs came

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<v Speaker 3>out with sweatshirts and T shirts saying they're voting for Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess they're not that type of a family. I

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<v Speaker 3>found that humorous. All right, let's get back to the calls.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's suck to Franke in Northbridge. Hey, Frank, is it

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<v Speaker 3>the economy?

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<v Speaker 8>No, I don't think it's the economy.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 8>There are much more important issues that they're going to

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<v Speaker 8>drive this character right at the top of the list.

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<v Speaker 8>That last call of that you had. Man, it's scary

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<v Speaker 8>to think that it's scary to think that that attitude

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, I mean, and she was correct there was

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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, but almost describing January sixth, the crowd is tourists,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean serious.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's my boy. That's the thing that gets me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's that's the tiebreaker for me with Trump.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, talk about brainwashed, you know, And like I say,

428
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<v Speaker 8>you know, the thing of it is also to people

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<v Speaker 8>forget the stock market is up forty since Biden got in.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, it was such a horrible economy. How could

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<v Speaker 8>that be?

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know what I mean, No, and that's true,

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<v Speaker 3>and the stock market continues to do well. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, again, it's all about the interest rates. If

435
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<v Speaker 3>they come down, then people will be able to get money,

436
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<v Speaker 3>then there'll be flush. I do think that it probably

437
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<v Speaker 3>is because in New England it is extremely hard to

438
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<v Speaker 3>buy a house.

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<v Speaker 8>In New England, Yeah, it's very expensive to live here,

440
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<v Speaker 8>but in the middle of the country that's cost of

441
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<v Speaker 8>living is far less. And no doubt think is a

442
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<v Speaker 8>up crime. Violent crime is way down, wages are up,

443
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<v Speaker 8>unemployment is way down. No, I mean there are bigger

444
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<v Speaker 8>issues this time around.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the interest rates. I think that are killing people

446
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<v Speaker 3>because if you do want to go get a mortgage,

447
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<v Speaker 3>it's nine percent. That's a killer. You know, that's a killer.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I can remember when it was twelve years

449
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<v Speaker 8>ago when I bought a house that was twelve and

450
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<v Speaker 8>three quarters was a good rate. I mean, you know,

451
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<v Speaker 8>it's all relative.

452
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<v Speaker 3>Well it is, and again, the interest rates have very

453
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<v Speaker 3>little to do with the President. It's all about the

454
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<v Speaker 3>Fed and they're probably going to get dropped yeah, but so,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I agree with you, I don't. I don't

456
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<v Speaker 3>think it's the economy. I think that people are going

457
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<v Speaker 3>to look at character. I think people are going to

458
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<v Speaker 3>look at well, I know who Donald Trump is. I'm

459
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<v Speaker 3>not sure who Kamala Harris could be because I don't

460
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<v Speaker 3>know if she's presidential material. I really don't. At times

461
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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't appear, she doesn't look at She was also

462
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<v Speaker 3>thrown into it. She was a vice president. She was

463
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<v Speaker 3>tossed into this thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Also too, don't forget. Uh you know, in the past

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<v Speaker 8>four years, well the past eight years, a lot of

466
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<v Speaker 8>those Trump that Trump corps, a lot of them have

467
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<v Speaker 8>died off, you know. So I mean I mean that

468
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<v Speaker 8>Trump call, you know, the the the real loons.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know what I mean. Yeah, Well, I think listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I have voted Republican, I have voted Democrat. I think

471
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<v Speaker 3>Harris is going to win because I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>new group of voters that we never considered before. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's the young people and it's the brats, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's gonna I think it's going to be close,

475
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<v Speaker 3>and I think that's going to be the difference. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know it's it's my opinion.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know, yeah, but you can sense it. And

478
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<v Speaker 8>there's no question that young people are going to make

479
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<v Speaker 8>a huge difference system around.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if she's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>good president or not. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, she certainly couldn't do worse than him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't see her. I can't see her leading an insurrection,

485
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<v Speaker 8>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm with you on that, Frank. I appreciate the

487
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<v Speaker 3>phone call. All right, let's go to Rick and Bell

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<v Speaker 3>Rickett six seven thirty. Hey, Rick, you're on WBZ. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, I I'd like Trump to get in. I

490
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<v Speaker 5>think it will be a really close race. And uh,

491
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<v Speaker 5>I think if Trump gets in, quite frankly, he'll only

492
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<v Speaker 5>probably be able to get things back to the middle.

493
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<v Speaker 5>So I don't think he I don't think he's a

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<v Speaker 5>radical writer or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, oh he's not. Oh he's not. No, no, no, no,

496
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<v Speaker 3>And especially when it comes to like the abortion thing,

497
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<v Speaker 3>leave it to the States, you know. Look, look, look Trump,

498
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<v Speaker 3>Trump really is in any date all. Somebody told me

499
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<v Speaker 3>once that politicians are people that were too ugly to

500
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<v Speaker 3>be actors, you know, I mean, and there's some there's

501
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<v Speaker 3>some truth to that. They like the attention, they want

502
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<v Speaker 3>to be up front, they want you know, and they're

503
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<v Speaker 3>performers and Trump's a performer. And I think that if

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<v Speaker 3>he had listened to his advisors when he was in

505
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<v Speaker 3>and just kind of been normal, he probably would have

506
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<v Speaker 3>been re elected.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are just some things sometimes he just can't

509
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<v Speaker 3>help himself with the things he said or the things

510
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<v Speaker 3>he does that turned people off. Because that and I

511
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<v Speaker 3>think that's what hurts him. If he had just kind

512
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<v Speaker 3>of played it safe, listen to it advisors, you know,

513
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<v Speaker 3>have a conservative type of platform, he would he would

514
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<v Speaker 3>have done two terms. You know, he would have he

515
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<v Speaker 3>would have done two terms. So but I mean, so

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to vote for Trump? Why, I'm not gonna

517
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna tell you to vote why. Why why

518
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<v Speaker 3>would you vote for Trump? I'm just curious, like what.

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<v Speaker 5>You do with the economy. I think he I think

520
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<v Speaker 5>he did a good job on the border. The border

521
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<v Speaker 5>has not been perfect, that's true, but he he tightened

522
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<v Speaker 5>it up a lot more. I think he only had

523
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<v Speaker 5>about one hundred more miles of border while to finish,

524
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<v Speaker 5>and he did the best he could turn his administration

525
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<v Speaker 5>and uh, because he was in court a lot, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, well that's the problem, you know, he gets in

527
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<v Speaker 3>his own way.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think it was. I think when I say

529
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<v Speaker 5>he was in court, I think the whole Steele dossier

530
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<v Speaker 5>thing was, Oh that was stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, because they all do it. I mean, that's that.

532
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<v Speaker 3>That's stupid. I mean Biden too. They nobody, but nobody

533
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:25.200
<v Speaker 3>keeps track of their records, you know.

534
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<v Speaker 5>I know, I know, but they they they wanted to

535
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<v Speaker 5>get him when when he was in office, but he

536
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<v Speaker 5>managed to do some some some pretty good stuff for

537
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<v Speaker 5>the country and uh, certainly the economy, and I would

538
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<v Speaker 5>love to see the border closed up as much as

539
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<v Speaker 5>possible and people come legally in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it has to be. It has to be taken

541
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<v Speaker 3>care of. Now. Yeah, no, how do you respond to

542
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.599
<v Speaker 3>there was a bipartisan deal on the table and Trump

543
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<v Speaker 3>didn't want it to happen. He wanted to use it

544
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<v Speaker 3>as a political p like, what is your opinion on that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, why didn't they do that from the very beginning?

546
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<v Speaker 5>They waited three years into the fairpoint not quite a fairpoint,

547
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.119
<v Speaker 5>not quite yeah, not quite three years. But all of

548
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<v Speaker 5>a sudden they want to do it when millions have

549
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<v Speaker 5>have gotten into the country at fairpoint.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I wondered that too. I wondered that too.

551
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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's that's that's that that is a legitimate description,

552
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<v Speaker 3>just to see. I agree with you. I I don't

553
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<v Speaker 3>know why it can't be fixed. I really don't. Other

554
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<v Speaker 3>countries do it. I know we were a melting pot.

555
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<v Speaker 3>I think I believe people should be allowed to come

556
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<v Speaker 3>into this country legally. I'm with you on that. I

557
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 3>think we can be a compassionate country. There has to

558
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<v Speaker 3>be some order to it. I think that we fall

559
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<v Speaker 3>in love with history where we go back to the

560
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<v Speaker 3>nineteen hundred, so the eighteen nineties, and you know, people

561
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.359
<v Speaker 3>came here from other countries to develop a better way

562
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<v Speaker 3>of life, and it was different then. There was a

563
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<v Speaker 3>lot more opportunity, there was more room in the country.

564
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<v Speaker 3>You had a different situation. And people try to say, well,

565
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<v Speaker 3>this is what we did before. It doesn't translate. Now,

566
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<v Speaker 3>you're right, there needs to be more. Yeah, it doesn't.

567
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't translate. It's like you could say, well,

568
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<v Speaker 3>my ancestors came from Italy and they worked and they

569
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 3>got into or they came from various Russia and they

570
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:29.640
<v Speaker 3>worked in industry and they raised families and they send

571
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<v Speaker 3>kids to college and they you know, that's what happened.

572
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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's what happened, and it was great. You know,

573
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<v Speaker 3>my parents came from Canada, you know, so as you

574
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<v Speaker 3>know in various relatives from Ireland and all that, that's

575
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<v Speaker 3>not happening. That's not what we're talking about. It's not

576
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<v Speaker 3>the same thing. So there has to be some order.

577
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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt about it. There has to be some order.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, we need order. We need the education system

579
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<v Speaker 5>not to be teaching some of the crazy stuff they

580
00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:01.359
<v Speaker 5>teach us math, science, reading, writing. Teach the kids to

581
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<v Speaker 5>be loving and kind to the other kids, even when

582
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<v Speaker 5>they're different. You don't have to go with these seven genders.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wow. I mean, but you know, yeah, I

584
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<v Speaker 3>hear you. But you know what, that's a it's a

585
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<v Speaker 3>different generation. So I will I will just say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>if that's what we need to do, that's what we

587
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<v Speaker 3>need to do.

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<v Speaker 8>But don't you.

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<v Speaker 5>Think maybe late, maybe when the kids get a little older,

590
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<v Speaker 5>like I think they're starting. I'm really young, and it's

591
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<v Speaker 5>not it's just like you don't talk sex with young

592
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<v Speaker 5>kiddy kids because you want them to hate boys and

593
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.880
<v Speaker 5>be think they're roucky. You want kids to be kids. Hopefully,

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully they're not starting too young.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean to be a young I

596
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<v Speaker 3>will just leave it at this. To be a young

597
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<v Speaker 3>person today, there's a lot on their minds, a lot

598
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<v Speaker 3>on their play. I appreciate the phone call. Good stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to say I'm a kitchen sink drummer too.

600
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<v Speaker 5>I don't know a lot of people who are, but

601
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<v Speaker 5>and I'm a real drum set drummer from a long

602
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<v Speaker 5>time ago. I'm sure you are too. But the kids

603
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 5>think it's really awesome to play drums on. Gary, have

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<v Speaker 5>a great night, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate the phone Tame, I appreciate it. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a great phone call. He's going to vote

607
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<v Speaker 3>for Trump. I'm curious why. And we can have a discussion.

608
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<v Speaker 3>We don't have to yell at each other. And oh

609
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<v Speaker 3>my god, uh we are going to get to John

610
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<v Speaker 3>and Franklin. I have to take a break through six

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<v Speaker 3>one seven, two thirty the phone number, Gary Tank. We're

612
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<v Speaker 3>wrapping things up for Dan Wright tonight on night Side,

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<v Speaker 3>and is it the economy. Is it is that what

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to vote on? Because I keep hearing that

615
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<v Speaker 3>it is, But I don't know if that's gonna decide it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll wrap things up on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News.

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<v Speaker 3>Radio, wrapping things up for Danny tonight. Gary Tank we

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<v Speaker 3>here on WBZ six one, seven thirty. Is it the economy? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Presidents of candidate Vice President Kamala Harris coming out with

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<v Speaker 3>her tax plan today, fifty thousand dollars credit for new

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<v Speaker 3>companies that start up, new startup companies. Also, she's offering

624
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<v Speaker 3>tax breaks to the middle class. I mean, is it enough?

625
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that she's going to get middle

626
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<v Speaker 3>class voters anyway, four thousand dollars at tax break per child,

627
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 3>which will certainly help. I think when interest rates come down,

628
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<v Speaker 3>and that's going to happen between now and the election,

629
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<v Speaker 3>that is going to obviously help things. And that's always

630
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<v Speaker 3>that's not partisan to me. So I don't know if

631
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<v Speaker 3>people are going to vote for the economy if Donald

632
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<v Speaker 3>Trump becomes president, does that automatically mean that things will

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<v Speaker 3>be better just because it worked for him? Last time.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that mean it's going to work this time? I

635
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<v Speaker 3>don't know, But I think there are so many other

636
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<v Speaker 3>questions regarding both candidates that I don't know. If it's

637
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<v Speaker 3>the economy, I think it's just a simple answer. John

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<v Speaker 3>and Franklin, you're up on WBC's Night Side. What are

639
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<v Speaker 3>you saying, sir? What's going on? What do you think?

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<v Speaker 8>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's a it's a multifaceted issue. You know, no

642
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<v Speaker 6>one's going to say no. And I and personally, I

643
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<v Speaker 6>think that you know, that might be a tiebreaker on

644
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<v Speaker 6>any any given person's you know opinion, you know, left.

645
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<v Speaker 3>Or right, it might be. You know, it's interesting. I

646
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<v Speaker 3>think that's a good point to jump on. What you're

647
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<v Speaker 3>saying is if someone has some money, right, if someone

648
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<v Speaker 3>is upper middle class or maybe upper class and close

649
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<v Speaker 3>to the one percent, but they have liberal you know,

650
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<v Speaker 3>they they're they're they're economically conservative but socially liberal. They're

651
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<v Speaker 3>not sure how Kamala Harris is gonna do. She doesn't

652
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<v Speaker 3>really have a track record. They go with Trump and

653
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 3>the finances will be the tiebreaker, could be, but I

654
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<v Speaker 3>don't think it's the one and only thing. You know,

655
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<v Speaker 3>and I talked to friends of mine. Friends of mine

656
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 3>have said, of course, it's the economy. I said, I

657
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<v Speaker 3>don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 6>It depends on who you ask, and you know where

659
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<v Speaker 6>they're where they're brokerage account sitting at the time. But

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, frankly, it's about more than just

661
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<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean everyone talked with the market. Market

662
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<v Speaker 6>is a huge you know, you can just put that

663
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<v Speaker 6>into twenty thirty different markets into itself. I mean, you know,

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00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:18.239
<v Speaker 6>stock market shirt ripped during Trump. Sure, and you a

665
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<v Speaker 6>full disclosure. I'm probably gonna vote for Trump, I think.

666
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<v Speaker 6>But okay, he walked into a relatively easy situation. I mean,

667
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<v Speaker 6>from two thousand and ten to twenty and twenty, you know,

668
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<v Speaker 6>a couple blitz on the radar, but everything was great, fine, right,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. In in Biden's defense, sure, everyone you know,

670
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<v Speaker 6>hems and hawes, I'll say on the radio about inflation,

671
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<v Speaker 6>a lot of that. I do think it is his fault.

672
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<v Speaker 6>But I mean, you can't you can't, you know, just

673
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<v Speaker 6>bypass the idea of all the stimulus through you know,

674
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<v Speaker 6>Trump for COVID. I mean, all that is stimulated in

675
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<v Speaker 6>the economy, all that you know, cash flooding the system. Sure,

676
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 6>you're going to cause inflation, which you know is the

677
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 6>negative side of the economy. But but to pull it back,

678
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<v Speaker 6>you know, hearing about you know, I mean they've been

679
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<v Speaker 6>talking about it forever. Will they do it?

680
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<v Speaker 7>I don't think so.

681
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<v Speaker 6>But talking about just look at unrealized capital gains tax

682
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think that's ridiculous. I mean, we wanted.

683
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<v Speaker 6>I heard a couple of callers ago talking about the

684
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<v Speaker 6>idea of getting the house in Massachusetts, New England is

685
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<v Speaker 6>very hard. Yes, it's very hard. And talk about unrealized

686
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:26.000
<v Speaker 6>capital gains. That's on any asset. So talk about uh,

687
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 6>unrealized capital gains on your house making it that much harder.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you can you break that down?

689
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

690
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<v Speaker 3>So the idea go ahead, go ahead, you go ahead

691
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<v Speaker 3>and break it down.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

693
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<v Speaker 6>So so the idea of unrealized capital gains do and

694
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<v Speaker 6>everyone talks about the ridge the don't use elon Musk

695
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<v Speaker 6>for example. You know all these big wigs, they're not

696
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<v Speaker 6>taking a paycheck. You're taking a very little paycheck, and

697
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:49.719
<v Speaker 6>everyone talks about taxes. So we could go down that

698
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<v Speaker 6>rabbit hole. I'll avoid it. I'm I'm leaning right on

699
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<v Speaker 6>that on that subject just on the idea of paying

700
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<v Speaker 6>out taxes. Now that's a bunch of malarkey. But they

701
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.320
<v Speaker 6>you know, maybe income TAXI that's a different stort. But

702
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<v Speaker 6>talk about realized versus unrealized capital gains on you know,

703
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<v Speaker 6>these millionaires and billionaires that they all like to say,

704
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<v Speaker 6>you know about you know, you gained one hundred million

705
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<v Speaker 6>dollar networth, paid tax on zero of it. And that's

706
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 6>a okay because it's it's all tied up in stock

707
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<v Speaker 6>and inequity in these companies that they haven't you know,

708
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<v Speaker 6>made a transaction it. So you know, for example, you

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<v Speaker 6>know Elon Musf makes a hundred million dollars today because

710
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<v Speaker 6>evaluations of his equities. Fine, that doesn't matter because he

711
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<v Speaker 6>hasn't cashed out on it. Right, So I mean dumb

712
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 6>that down to you and I haven't read anything this.

713
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<v Speaker 6>This could be pure speculation, full disclosure, you know, based

714
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<v Speaker 6>on you know, where do we draw the line on

715
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 6>the low side? Right, So mom and pop you know,

716
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:48.039
<v Speaker 6>scrape and buy make you know, a million dollars in

717
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 6>their house in the last thirty years. At what point

718
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 6>do we tax them on unrealized capital games?

719
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<v Speaker 7>Right?

720
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<v Speaker 6>So you get a tax bill because your house went

721
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<v Speaker 6>up in value, you never made a dollar. All it

722
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<v Speaker 6>did was cost you money. And then I guess I

723
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<v Speaker 6>would say, on the side, do we count you know,

724
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<v Speaker 6>unrealized capital losses against that. There's so much up in

725
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<v Speaker 6>the air, and I mean it's politics. Everyone's throwing fuze

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<v Speaker 6>words around.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean we're in Buffett and correct me if

728
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<v Speaker 3>I'm wrong. Didn't Buffett come out and say, listen, I

729
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:19.760
<v Speaker 3>should pay more in taxes because of what you're saying. Right, Yeah,

730
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<v Speaker 3>I take I think you was paying like seventeen percent

731
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 3>as opposed to forty percent. I mean, I listen, this

732
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.119
<v Speaker 3>is not my area of expertise, I will tell you,

733
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.840
<v Speaker 3>but I do know this. If you get between say

734
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 3>you have a double income, like your double income family,

735
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 3>and you get between two hundred and fifty and four

736
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand dollars a year, which sounds like a lot

737
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 3>of money. It is a lot of money, But then

738
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 3>you can get nailed for forty percent on tax right

739
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 3>because you don't have You've worked your ass off. Both

740
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 3>of you are making money. Maybe you're working over time,

741
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 3>you get your master's degree or whatever, so you could

742
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 3>get into this into this this income range. But you

743
00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 3>don't have the capital gains and you don't have the right,

744
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 3>so Buffett has. But yet forty percent goes to the government.

745
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<v Speaker 3>That's a problem.

746
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<v Speaker 6>That's a beautiful part of capitalism where in theory, you

747
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 6>work hard, you know, you get rewarded. I understand taxes.

748
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:12.519
<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's just the way it goes. I'm not

749
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<v Speaker 6>calling to throw a tea in the harbor, which you

750
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 6>know sounds fun, but you know, we all saw what

751
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.599
<v Speaker 6>happened after that. I'm not calling for that, you know.

752
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<v Speaker 6>But frankly, you know, sure Warren Buffet can say that, sir,

753
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 6>all the you know, I'll say, you know, I keep

754
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<v Speaker 6>calling them big wigs, uh, you know, supporting these these

755
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 6>politicians doing this and doing that. I mean, they can

756
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.519
<v Speaker 6>say whatever they want. Warren Buffet understands tax go I mean,

757
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<v Speaker 6>you know, should the tax go change, probably, you know,

758
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<v Speaker 6>I think the little guy is probably paying too much.

759
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<v Speaker 6>But also, you know, the big guys are the ones

760
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<v Speaker 6>incentivizing everything. You know, sure we're talking about income taxes,

761
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 6>how about payroll tax how about property taxes, how about

762
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.519
<v Speaker 6>excise tax? I mean, there are so many other taxes

763
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.840
<v Speaker 6>that they're paying. You know, the government incentivizes people to

764
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<v Speaker 6>do what they want through tax code. We want people employed,

765
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 6>we want people that have healthcare right right. So that's

766
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<v Speaker 6>how it works. So I'm not going to solve anything.

767
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<v Speaker 6>I'm just a twenty six year old guy driving a

768
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<v Speaker 6>car down the mask pipe.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot to call in, Josh. I appreciate your calling,

770
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<v Speaker 3>and you know more about it than I do, so

771
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<v Speaker 3>thank you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, let me let me respond to one quick thing.

773
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<v Speaker 6>And I forget who it was. I think was the

774
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<v Speaker 6>gentleman from uh North Christian talking about, you know, the

775
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<v Speaker 6>Trump supporters. And I've been listening to you guys for

776
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 6>a while, but you know that you know, dying off

777
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<v Speaker 6>getting older. You'd be surprised. I worked at one of

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<v Speaker 6>the largest companies in New and I of course I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not going to say which one, but you know, I

780
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<v Speaker 6>talked all at twenty three, twenty four year olds, even

781
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<v Speaker 6>twenty two year olds who just you know, sign up

782
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<v Speaker 6>what eyed bushytailed. You know, let me getting to it

783
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<v Speaker 6>a once, you know it, drinks have to work. It'd

784
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<v Speaker 6>be a lot. There's a lot more new graduate Trump

785
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<v Speaker 6>supporters than a one would imagine. So and I'm not

786
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<v Speaker 6>sure you know, we called the silent majority anymore, you know,

787
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:48.920
<v Speaker 6>whatever they used to call it. I think it was

788
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 6>silent majority back in twenty or sixteen, but a lot

789
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<v Speaker 6>more than even I think I would have imagined.

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<v Speaker 3>So I will say that, I will say I'm glad,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and thank you for the phone call. I

792
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<v Speaker 3>think it's a good point because I've experienced it in

793
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<v Speaker 3>my own house, John, thank you for the call with

794
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<v Speaker 3>uh you two with one of my kids, and we

795
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<v Speaker 3>had discussions and a little more to the right that

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine, and I said, good for you, man, do

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<v Speaker 3>your own thing. He might have a point the other issue,

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't think people are dying off. The other issue, though,

799
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<v Speaker 3>is on the left. There's definitely been a mobilization of

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<v Speaker 3>young voters. So which mobilization is going to be greater,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm just guessing. I think it might

802
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<v Speaker 3>be on the left. I think the younger voter mobilization

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<v Speaker 3>may be a little bit bigger on the left than

804
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<v Speaker 3>on the right. But I think he makes a very

805
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<v Speaker 3>good point. Trump voters aren't simply just a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>old guys. We got to go. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a ball I'll be back tomorrow night at

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<v Speaker 3>eight o'clock on WBZ. Rob Brooks, thank you, Marita l Rossa.

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<v Speaker 3>We appreciate it. This has been Nightside on WBZ.
