Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: A M. Six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on
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Speaker 2: In a few minutes, right after the first break. In
Speaker 2: this hour, we're going to talk more about the death
Speaker 2: of actor Gene Hackman and his wife in a very
Speaker 2: strange situation. Although the sheriff dog and a dog. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the sheriff has said that there's no signs of any
Speaker 2: foul play, but they're not ruling anything out yet because
Speaker 2: there are some mysterious what would you say, mysterious circumstance circumstances, yes,
Speaker 2: of what had happened there at the house in Santa Fe,
Speaker 2: New Mexico.
Speaker 3: I'm Gary, and I'm a better baseball player than you.
Speaker 4: I go to baseball cap.
Speaker 2: I have never claimed to be a better baseball player
Speaker 2: than anyone ever.
Speaker 1: I think you did hit a couple doubles from what
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 4: I did, but that doesn't mean I'm better than anybody.
Speaker 1: We have a run saving double plays, weren't you on
Speaker 1: the end of that.
Speaker 2: I do remember if we prevented the run from scoring.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't remember. If there was a run.
Speaker 1: I do, and it was masterful.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Trump says Canada and Mexico tariffs will go into effect
Speaker 1: next week, after saying it would be April yesterday. We
Speaker 1: got clarification today. It's where we kick off swamp watch politician,
Speaker 1: which means I'm a cheat and a liar and when
Speaker 1: I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops. Here we got.
Speaker 5: The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 1: The other side never quits.
Speaker 5: So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 3: So that now you train the.
Speaker 4: Swamp, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened.
Speaker 1: By what has been.
Speaker 4: You know, Americans have always been gone at present.
Speaker 1: They're not stupid.
Speaker 3: A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2: Whether people voted for you were not swamp Watch, They're
Speaker 2: all Canada. So there were some questions about whether or
Speaker 2: not or I should say the timing of tariffs, when
Speaker 2: they would come in, whether the proposed tariffs on Mexico
Speaker 2: and Canada we'll go into effect, and when it turns
Speaker 2: out according to a truth social post this morning, which
Speaker 2: we've come to look at every day just to see
Speaker 2: what the day is going to hold. Trump clarified that
Speaker 2: in fact, those tariffs would go into effect on March fourth,
Speaker 2: next Tuesday, that China would also be charged in additional
Speaker 2: ten percent tariff starting also on March fourth.
Speaker 1: He's blaming the flow of drugs, specifically fentanyl that has
Speaker 1: not stopped now Mexico, no doubt about it, and there
Speaker 1: was about ninety six hundred kilos that were intercepted at
Speaker 1: the border with Mexico last year alone, ninety six hundred kilos.
Speaker 1: At the border with Canada, there was just nineteen intercepted.
Speaker 1: I'm still drugs, but clearly the issue is at the
Speaker 1: Mexico US border.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 1: Canada not known to be a major source of fentanyl,
Speaker 1: nor the precursor chemicals involving it.
Speaker 2: British Prime Minister car Starmer, the newb PM, is meeting
Speaker 2: with President Trump today. They're talking about boosting defense spending
Speaker 2: for both countries, talking about peace deal for Ukraine.
Speaker 5: We'll be discussing Russia, Ukraine, We'll be discussing Craine and
Speaker 5: lots of other items, and I think we can say
Speaker 5: that we're going to be getting along on every one
Speaker 5: of them. We've had a tremendous relationship.
Speaker 6: Thank you for changing the conversation to bring about the
Speaker 6: possibility that now we can have a peace deal, and
Speaker 6: we want to work with you to make sure that
Speaker 6: peace deal is enduring, that it lasts, that it's a
Speaker 6: deal that goes down as.
Speaker 4: A historic deal.
Speaker 2: Those two leaders are expected to hold a news conference
Speaker 2: the old fashioned two podiums and a lot of questions
Speaker 2: coming up in a few minutes.
Speaker 1: Trump was asked what he will do if Putin ultimately
Speaker 1: doesn't stick to the terms of that peace deal they
Speaker 1: we're talking about. He said, I've known him for a
Speaker 1: long time now, and I don't believe he's going to
Speaker 1: violate his word. He said about Trump, I do not
Speaker 1: understand that, he also said, or he was asked, Trump
Speaker 1: was if he's still thinks Zelensky is a dictator, and
Speaker 1: Trump said, did I say that? I can't believe I
Speaker 1: said that, he said. But the thing is is like
Speaker 1: the words they do matter, you know. It's like, take
Speaker 1: the tariffs alone, right like yesterday when he said it
Speaker 1: was going to be in April. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: just things like that matter on the when it comes
Speaker 1: to the markets. You know, investors interpreted those remarks yesterday
Speaker 1: as a sign that Trump was going to continue delaying
Speaker 1: the tariffs. The value of the peso the Canadian dollar increased,
Speaker 1: and then everything went the other way when he clarified
Speaker 1: the comments today. So I mean dictator, not dictator. Tariff's
Speaker 1: in effect in March, in April, you've got a free,
Speaker 1: willing president. The way he speaks, they do matter. The
Speaker 1: words aren't just for our entertainment. They do matter, you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's wi.
Speaker 3: A female and male. Probably, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know if there's somebody quick.
Speaker 2: That was a nine to one one call that led
Speaker 2: sheriff's deputies in Santa Fe, New Mexico, to find the
Speaker 2: bodies of actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa,
Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon. And that call was made apparently by a
Speaker 2: handyman caretaker who saw Betsy's body on the floor inside
Speaker 2: the house and went down to call nine one one
Speaker 2: had to escort deputies back up because apparently there's no
Speaker 2: street address, or it's a gated community or something like that.
Speaker 2: When the deputies got there and they found the bodies,
Speaker 2: they saw enough suspicious circumstances that they backed out of
Speaker 2: the house could basically just retraced their steps and got
Speaker 2: a search warrant on the off chance that this was
Speaker 2: more than just natural causes.
Speaker 1: So she is found in the back room and there's
Speaker 1: a pill bottle a bunch of pills scattered around her.
Speaker 1: Her body shows signs of decomposition, much more so than
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman's do. It appears from people in the know
Speaker 1: that she's been dead much longer than Gene Hackman, at
Speaker 1: least upon first glance. Her hands and feet are even
Speaker 1: mummified to a degree. He's in another room. It appears,
Speaker 1: according to the deputies that responded, that he kind of
Speaker 1: fell down suddenly. The dog is in the closet that's
Speaker 1: adjacent to the bathroom where the wife, Betsy was found.
Speaker 1: The dog, German Shepherd, found dead in that closet as well.
Speaker 1: The kids came out right away, three grown children Gene
Speaker 1: Hackman has, all from a previous marriage. These two got
Speaker 1: together in about nineteen ninety one. They were married. She's
Speaker 1: much younger. She's in her early sixties, so about thirty
Speaker 1: year age difference there. She's actually younger than his oldest son.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the kids came out right away and said
Speaker 1: it was carbon monoxide poisoning. Now firefighters and police agencies
Speaker 1: and even the gas company have come out and said
Speaker 1: there's no signs of that being the case. So what
Speaker 1: was the case? Is this something where she died first,
Speaker 1: and then the dog died, and then she died because
Speaker 1: she was so distraught about the dog dying, and then
Speaker 1: he dies he's ninety five from natural causes because he's
Speaker 1: in another part of the house. I mean, there's just
Speaker 1: so many questions about this. You've got three dead bodies,
Speaker 1: including a dog. Remember there's two other dogs found in
Speaker 1: the house that are perfectly healthy. Yeah, at least one
Speaker 1: found in the house, one on the grounds.
Speaker 2: Sources have told deadline dot Com that they had not
Speaker 2: been seen for a few weeks. Neither Betsy nor Jeene
Speaker 2: Hackman had been seen for a couple of weeks. Now,
Speaker 2: that might be too long for the dogs to kind
Speaker 2: of well, that would be too long for the dogs
Speaker 2: to go without having food. But the question that I have,
Speaker 2: or the sort of the scenario that could play into
Speaker 2: this is when it's ninety five years old, fully within
Speaker 2: the arena of potential dementia, and if something happens with
Speaker 2: his wife, who, like you said, is much younger, she's
Speaker 2: thirty year young, thirty years younger something like that than
Speaker 2: he is. If something happens to her, then who's there
Speaker 2: to help take care of him.
Speaker 1: That's really the big question too, I mean, if was
Speaker 1: she his caretaker, and if that was the case, did
Speaker 1: she try to, for whatever reason, try to kill herself
Speaker 1: with the pill? You just don't know how many pills
Speaker 1: she ingested, what the pills were, if she ingested any
Speaker 1: of them, or if she was just taking a morning
Speaker 1: one a day vitamin and fell down and died for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. You just don't know anything. You don't it's
Speaker 1: hard to speculate because you don't know what the pills were.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't know the state of the dog.
Speaker 1: And if she was the caretaker, then why would the
Speaker 1: family come by? If she's gotten things altogether and she
Speaker 1: takes care of things for a couple of weeks. A
Speaker 1: couple weeks is a long time when her dad's ninety five,
Speaker 1: not to make contact pretty long time. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the relationship is with him and his kids either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's odd too, and that they wouldn't have help
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, even though she's a lot younger,
Speaker 1: she's sixty three sixty four something like that. If he's
Speaker 1: ninety five and he's a big guy, I don't know
Speaker 1: how she'd be able to take care of him on
Speaker 1: her own if that was the case, if he was
Speaker 1: well into dementia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's sound.
Speaker 2: I mean, the last pictures that I've seen of them
Speaker 2: were from a year ago, basically, when they were out
Speaker 2: for dinner somewhere in Santa Fe. The last time anybody
Speaker 2: that I've seen so far that says that they've spoken
Speaker 2: to either one of them in person would have been
Speaker 2: a neighbor who said that she saw Betsy Arakawa at
Speaker 2: the home decor business back in January, and she said
Speaker 2: at the time a gene Hackman seemed to be growing frailer,
Speaker 2: but that he was still painting and drawing. They were
Speaker 2: always so what reclusive, even though everyone loved to be
Speaker 2: around them. In my scenario, and again it's complete speculation
Speaker 2: because we don't know the details of it. Something happens
Speaker 2: to her and she dies. He either can't comprehend that
Speaker 2: or doesn't comprehend that. And if he died after a fall,
Speaker 2: which is what they said, it looks like because his
Speaker 2: sunglasses were next to him, like he had put him
Speaker 2: on to go out, or maybe was just coming back.
Speaker 1: I don't understand any of that, Like why you would
Speaker 1: base the fact that his sunglasses are next to him
Speaker 1: that he fell. I don't understand how you could come
Speaker 1: to that conclusion that quickly.
Speaker 4: Well, where do you keep your sunglasses?
Speaker 1: You don't keep them on the floor, but you could
Speaker 1: be holding them.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how they terminal if he's
Speaker 2: wearing them or holding them, but he had them. It
Speaker 2: looks like and does that mean that he was going
Speaker 2: out to get help or whatever.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's one of those things.
Speaker 1: Better when you're ninety five, you don't get out to
Speaker 1: go help. To get help, you call, you pick up
Speaker 1: the phone and you call nine one one right again.
Speaker 4: If he but if he's in the.
Speaker 1: Throes mobile at very few people.
Speaker 2: They said also that the door, like the front door
Speaker 2: was open, but no signs of any forced entry or anything.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's well a number one of the dogs is
Speaker 1: running around the property too, So uh yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: out of the drama possibility that she dies for whatever
Speaker 1: reason and he is ninety five and maybe not all
Speaker 1: there together, and he's he's got the dogs in the house,
Speaker 1: and he's letting the dogs out and what have you,
Speaker 1: and and then he succumbs to just being ninety five.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't think anybody why did.
Speaker 1: The family come out right away and claim carbon monoxide
Speaker 1: like they had not been there, They don't know anything,
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, they say, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't hear the interview, but to be
Speaker 1: that definitive about your dad dying that quickly is just
Speaker 1: odd to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, make a whole lot of sense. No, it's time
Speaker 2: for tech talk.
Speaker 3: The machines are getting smarter. This is tech talk, brought
Speaker 3: to you my sky net.
Speaker 1: So Alexa's begin going to become even more powerful in
Speaker 1: my household. I don't know if I can handle that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say this, She does handle things
Speaker 1: that I don't want to handle, Questions I don't want
Speaker 1: to have to answer. So it is kind of nice.
Speaker 1: We've kind of come to an understanding. It's just it's
Speaker 1: funny the way I hear my husband speak to her.
Speaker 1: It's almost like he wants to yell at me like
Speaker 1: that and can't, so he kind of takes it out
Speaker 1: on Alexa. Or you know your name, that's better.
Speaker 2: Mark Saltzman, our tech guru, joins us to talk about
Speaker 2: Alexa plus.
Speaker 4: What's going on, Mark.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, So I'm just returning from a coming out
Speaker 3: party for Alexa plus. This is how they're celebrating how
Speaker 3: Amazon is celebrating the tenth anniversary of Alexa, the personal
Speaker 3: assistant used by more than on the world. Alexa Plus
Speaker 3: is a much smarter Alexa. That's the bottom line. It's
Speaker 3: leveraging generative AI, large language models that have been all
Speaker 3: the buzz. It's all the age, of course since Chatchipt,
Speaker 3: but Amazon's been working on their own for a long
Speaker 3: while as well. So she's going to get a lot
Speaker 3: more intelligent, a lot more personal, meaning like not just conversational,
Speaker 3: but she's going to remember things about you and even proactive.
Speaker 3: So let me give you some examples of what we
Speaker 3: testro of yesterday in New York. And just so you know,
Speaker 3: when you launch her for the first time, you just
Speaker 3: say the wake word once and then after that you
Speaker 3: do not need to keep saying burning. It's more conversational
Speaker 3: like some of these other chatting platforms. So for example,
Speaker 3: you can tell like you Gary Shannon, you can tell
Speaker 3: Alexa that when you've got a food preference, like I
Speaker 3: love Thai food, but I'm also pescatarian, for example, and
Speaker 3: so when you asked to recommend some recipes to make
Speaker 3: it home, it'll remember all of that, even if it's
Speaker 3: a year down the road.
Speaker 4: It will.
Speaker 3: It may include a tie recipe with no beef for
Speaker 3: pork in it, for example. Or if you ask for
Speaker 3: a good restaurant to make a reservation, she'll recommend one
Speaker 3: based on proximity to you and number of positive reviews.
Speaker 3: It leverages data from Open Table, it'll make a reservation
Speaker 3: for you. Or if you want to take out you know,
Speaker 3: or whatever food delivery options, it'll remember what you tell it.
Speaker 3: It will access your calendar in contacts with your permission.
Speaker 3: So Alexa may notice that you have double booked your
Speaker 3: daughter's dance recital with picking up a friend from the
Speaker 3: airport same time, and so she will call that out
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: Maybe the day it's a real ding dong, isn't it?
Speaker 4: Mark?
Speaker 1: What's worse going to lax or going to the kid's recital?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that those are two hotherful
Speaker 1: selections for my day.
Speaker 3: Well, assuming you would rather be at your dance recital.
Speaker 3: She Alexa may recommend that you book an uber to
Speaker 3: pick up your friend instead, and she'll book it for
Speaker 3: you and even text your friend up. Put it so
Speaker 3: that that's kind of cool where it can analyze it proactively,
Speaker 3: Eliza calendar and make those changes and message people you know.
Speaker 3: It could advise and summarize documents that you update blowed
Speaker 3: rather to Alexa dot com of a PDF from the
Speaker 3: hoa from your local hoa and in the future you
Speaker 3: can say, can I install ANALS on my roof?
Speaker 4: Am I allowed?
Speaker 3: And so we'll look at that docum that you uploaded
Speaker 3: in the past and she'll say, yes, but it seen
Speaker 3: from the road, go for it, or let me order
Speaker 3: it for you. You are the popular solar panels, you
Speaker 3: can buy it that kind of stuff. It could find
Speaker 3: video clips. If you have not just a smart speaker
Speaker 3: but a smart display, you can say, hey, did anybody
Speaker 3: walk Buddy today? Buddy? And she'll remember that Buddy is
Speaker 3: the name of your dog, Okay, and so Alexa then
Speaker 3: will scrub forward through all of the ring video clips
Speaker 3: from your home and show you if fog was seen
Speaker 3: and if anybody was walking him or so yeah, I deah.
Speaker 3: So it's a lot more conversational. It can create stories
Speaker 3: for kids, including images on the if you have a
Speaker 3: smart display, not just a smart speaker.
Speaker 4: So it was actually really impressive.
Speaker 3: I got to say. It was a two hour demonstration
Speaker 3: and then some demos after that. And it's going to
Speaker 3: be free for Prime members. That's otherwise it'll be nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety nine a month. It's a plus and it's going
Speaker 3: to start rolling out in Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the price point I know that. I mean you
Speaker 2: mentioned the price is there, nineteen ninety nine a month.
Speaker 4: The issue you don't have Prime.
Speaker 7: If you don't have Prime, my husband would never pay
Speaker 7: for his side piece.
Speaker 2: Well that's that's kind of what I'm saying, is that
Speaker 2: the send all these you know, helpers. They can do
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. Does it really need to be
Speaker 2: that tailored for people?
Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's supposed to help you get more
Speaker 3: done in less time, right, it's supposed to be more intelligent.
Speaker 3: And you don't have to change how you speak to
Speaker 3: her either, like in the past you had to talk
Speaker 3: Alexa speak for her to understand you, or if you
Speaker 3: cut her off, she you had to ask it again,
Speaker 3: or if you said you stuttered now leveraging like hundreds
Speaker 3: and hundreds of other apps like Uber or you know,
Speaker 3: open table. I gave those examples.
Speaker 4: So it's just.
Speaker 3: Getting a lot more intelligent. It can analyze documents. Whether
Speaker 3: you deem twenty dollars a month is reasonable or not.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's steep. But if you are
Speaker 3: already a prime member, which to me, there's a huge
Speaker 3: value proposition there with free deliveries and same day delivery,
Speaker 3: next day delivery, and access to prime music and videos,
Speaker 3: you know, like movies and TV shows. To me, it's
Speaker 3: a no brainer. But I can tell you from a
Speaker 3: tech standpoint, price notwithstanding, it was really impressive.
Speaker 4: All right, Mark, you.
Speaker 3: Don't sound convinced.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't want her in my house.
Speaker 3: You could have the regular that's been the same for
Speaker 3: ten years.
Speaker 1: I support you not wanting her in your home.
Speaker 2: I just she needs, like Shannon says, she needs to
Speaker 2: know her lane, and I feel like paying her an
Speaker 2: extra twenty bucks a months.
Speaker 4: She's going to branch out and I don't need that.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? She's going to be intolerable.
Speaker 4: Hilarious.
Speaker 3: Well, welcome back, Shannon. We haven't chatted in a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks.
Speaker 4: So good to hear your boys.
Speaker 1: Okay, good to hear your voice as well.
Speaker 2: Mark, Thank you, Thanks as always. Cheers guys, Mark Saltsman there.
Speaker 2: Make sure you follow Mark on Twitter. By the way,
Speaker 2: Marc underscore Saltsman because he's got great all kinds of stuff,
Speaker 2: great tech tips of the day, He's got his tech
Speaker 2: it Out podcast, all that stuff that you can listen to.
Speaker 3: I'm Gary. Have the best super Bowl pories with flacks,
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Speaker 1: He does have great sacks. I'm not gonna lie about that.
Speaker 1: I'm Gary. I'm a Jeopardy champ. I'm Gary. I don't
Speaker 1: like warm milk. I'm Gary. I pronounced everything right, and you.
Speaker 4: Don't, Cay Gary.
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh my god, you guys are giving me life.
Speaker 8: Uh Gary, I could write Christmas Place way better than Ai.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, this is so good. Who ever got
Speaker 7: that ball rolling man? Who knew we were gonna wake
Speaker 7: up and get this joy today?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 8: Jary, I could write Christmas Place way better than Ai.
Speaker 1: Coming up later in the show, we are going to
Speaker 1: get into Love Gone Wrong, a woman who locked her
Speaker 1: boyfriend in a storage unit bombing suspects who tried to
Speaker 1: well blow up his girlfriend years decades ago that has
Speaker 1: finally been caught. Sometimes it's not a rom com that
Speaker 1: ends in love. Sometimes it's not a Hallmark movie where
Speaker 1: someone moves to the country and wins over the mom
Speaker 1: and leaves their city clothes for a flannel and ill
Speaker 1: fitting pair of jeans.
Speaker 2: Their sheepskin line denim jacket doesn't Sometimes it doesn't fit.
Speaker 4: Here's a new study.
Speaker 2: A new study from the Benioff Homeless and Housing Initiative
Speaker 2: at uc San Francisco, published in the medical journal Jama Gemma.
Speaker 4: Ready for this. Buckle down, people, Buckle down.
Speaker 2: Illegal drug use is deeply intertwined with homelessness.
Speaker 1: No, did I fall into a vat of idiots this
Speaker 1: week where all the news is just for idiots that
Speaker 1: have not been living for longer than five seconds in
Speaker 1: this world? Like, what are we doing here? This is
Speaker 1: all obvious stuff, right.
Speaker 2: This report does say, though contrary to common perception, only
Speaker 2: about thirty seven percent of homeless people are using illicit
Speaker 2: drugs regularly, and about a quarter of them said they
Speaker 2: have never used drugs, Which is crazy because you're counting
Speaker 2: on homeless people to tell you the truth about their
Speaker 2: drug use.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm Gary. I don't do drugs.
Speaker 4: I'm Gary. I have two Shannons. I'm everybody making fun
Speaker 4: of Gary. I like that twist, the change the narrative. There,
Speaker 4: I'm Gary.
Speaker 2: It's adults doing theater.
Speaker 1: It's not adult theaters.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're going to get the format right, let's
Speaker 2: do it at the beginning.
Speaker 4: And I'm Gary.
Speaker 1: I'm dictating the rules of the ucles.
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm Gary.
Speaker 7: Off the deacon read you.
Speaker 4: You know, a big fan.
Speaker 8: I think we need to equal some things out here
Speaker 8: and balance the scales here. Oh I'm Shannon. I get
Speaker 8: to travel around with a whole football team and have
Speaker 8: a dream job in the NFL and still have the
Speaker 8: job and can't find I still get to take multiple
Speaker 8: vacations all the time.
Speaker 4: WHOA or suspensions?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Oh I'm Shannon. I know I'm not a doctor, but
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give doctor advice, just trying to.
Speaker 3: Equal things out.
Speaker 4: Did you give doctor advice?
Speaker 1: I may have said something to the effect of, I
Speaker 1: have no idea.
Speaker 4: This is a fun story.
Speaker 2: Be careful, kids, when you're gonna about your illegal activities.
Speaker 2: On an airplane, a couple was relating their adventures in
Speaker 2: hunting to a pair of flyers in the row ahead
Speaker 2: of them. They got cozy. They confided they once hunted
Speaker 2: a mountain lion. They had a close relative was a
Speaker 2: big fan of wild animals that had been stuffed and mounted.
Speaker 2: So they had mountain lions and a wolverine and some
Speaker 2: wolves in their trophy room.
Speaker 1: Oh, they even said that they were smuggling the skull
Speaker 1: of an endangered sea turtle on their luggage on this flight.
Speaker 1: So now you're getting all yappy and braggy to people
Speaker 1: on a plane. It's gonna backfire, and it certainly did.
Speaker 4: Here's another clue.
Speaker 2: If they start taking notes while you're talking, you might
Speaker 2: want to shut up. Now, I'm not I don't know
Speaker 2: if they did or not, But the couple in the
Speaker 2: row ahead of them were under well plane closed California
Speaker 2: Department of Fish and Wildlife officers. They're fly odds flying
Speaker 2: northern California.
Speaker 1: If like two Sacramento from San Diego and this couple's
Speaker 1: from Chico, and yeah, they're talking about how they hunted
Speaker 1: a mountain lion and that they've got multiple taxidermied mountain lions,
Speaker 1: of wolves of wolverine, the whole bit. They even show
Speaker 1: photos of the room at home where the animals are
Speaker 1: displayed on the wall. So this couple leaves the plan
Speaker 1: and they deboard and they passed through TSA. They even
Speaker 1: go through the whole rigamarole of showing this couple the
Speaker 1: turtle skull in their luggage. Like these two people who
Speaker 1: work for the Department of Fishing well that they sold
Speaker 1: this whole thing. They were like, Oh, that's so cool.
Speaker 1: Can we see it? Can we see it? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Oh when we land, can we like absolutely
Speaker 1: can see it, Like meet us in baggage claim. So
Speaker 1: there it was. They saw the skull wrapped up in
Speaker 1: their hunting gear and the carry on and so then
Speaker 1: officers later got search warrants for their home in Chico
Speaker 1: and the relatives home, and that has the wall of
Speaker 1: all of the all of the animals that have been
Speaker 1: stuffed and mounted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which included things like mountain lion claws, a ringtail cat,
Speaker 2: mounted barn owl, mounted raptors of course require permits.
Speaker 4: Everybody knows that.
Speaker 1: Here's a fun tip. If you're going from northern California
Speaker 1: to southern California, know that you're going to a new land.
Speaker 1: It's very different. People who may slap you on the
Speaker 1: back up here for having taxidermy things mounted on the wall,
Speaker 1: they may not feel that way in San Diego. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you and I both know several people that have
Speaker 1: walls just like this in their home up here in
Speaker 1: northern California. Can't find a lot of them in San Diego.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised that they only got fines. All
Speaker 2: three of them did plead guilty to violating fish and
Speaker 2: game codes. They were assigned fines between six hundred dollars
Speaker 2: and eighteen hundred dollars depending on which ones were what
Speaker 2: stuff was found in whose home? And the younger couple,
Speaker 2: Byron and Shannon, they ended up they could be prohibited
Speaker 2: from hunting for a year as a result of their transgressions.
Speaker 1: So what kind of stuff do you have at home?
Speaker 1: You have anything stuffed on your wall? You got any skulls?
Speaker 2: No, that was never My dad had a lot of
Speaker 2: deer antlers when I was growing up, and I assume
Speaker 2: we still have them somewhere. I guess I haven't found them.
Speaker 2: But that was really the only that was. That was
Speaker 2: as close as we got to any real hunting trophy.
Speaker 2: I mean there were, they were hunting trophies, but they
Speaker 2: were his.
Speaker 1: I had a friend still do in high school. He
Speaker 1: had a truck, nice old Chevy truck and for the
Speaker 1: stick shift it was a deal a deer Antler.
Speaker 4: Very cool.
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, I'm Gary.
Speaker 7: I was late to work today and I can't really
Speaker 7: explain why I.
Speaker 4: Thought I did. I thought I did. It was stuck
Speaker 4: in traffic.
Speaker 1: I am Gary.
Speaker 3: My daughter is going to be a doctor, a PhD scoreboard.
Speaker 7: Gary wins.
Speaker 1: Now we're going after the kids. Let's spump the brakes.
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